psyker-class

[cold oasis]

Voidstrike changed?

Tried a couple of games, it seemed as before tbh

[shut thorn]

seems to, it's doing literally nothing to elites now

[supple skiff]

I’ve not been hit too hard with void, been using warp battery with inner tranquility, but the quell bug is noticeable and hurts bad in some situations

[cold oasis]

oh i just pew pew hordes with it xd

[weak galleon]

Just don't touch Trauma.
Surge received a "stunning" visual overhaul that may or may not give you nausea or other funny perks.
Void is still decent.
Purge is still decent.

[burnt python]

ppl in here keep talkign about weapon strength in the context of using bugs that are obv gonna be fixed at some point, pretty counterproductive

[shut thorn]

Void does pass thru maniacs and such now though

And specials

[weak galleon]

it did before?

[burnt python]

it always did

[weak galleon]

yep

[shut thorn]

Didn't it get stopped

[burnt python]

it stops on unyeilding & carapace

[weak galleon]

no, only ogryn boys stopped it, and maulers afaik

[shut thorn]

Yeah it's going through scab mauler heads

from what I tested

but idfk

[burnt python]

o wtf

a buff???

probably a bug tho

all good things for psyker are bugs

[shut thorn]

i didnt enjoy doing 200dmg to a reaper head though

[supple skiff]

I run void and FS and I’m content as long as I don’t engage in any comparative analysis lmao

[shut thorn]

down from 500

like wtf

[burnt python]

oh yeah if its actually doing way less dmg that is trash

[teal needle]

Oh good, they officially confirmed the new peril thing is a bug

[shut thorn]

if youve got the game open, can you test in damnation meat grinder

I might've had a shit roll equipped

[burnt python]

i'll take a look in a sec

trauma aint fixed, checked that earlier

purge actually good now

(possibly due to a bug) lmao

[tight niche]

how's the rp options, feel like you can resolve situations a bunch of diff ways?

[shut thorn]

apparently it's shit damage is intended

[burnt python]

yikes

[weak galleon]

you got links to any dev statements/comments regarding trauma?

[pale pilot]

what's the bug for purge?

[weak galleon]

i can't believe it's current state is intended

[shut thorn]

the thread, hold on

[burnt python]

what a joke m an lmao

[shut thorn]

look at that dev's acc age

[burnt python]

crits applying 2x dot stacks and some sort of poorly understood soulfire dmg buff

[shut thorn]

they were a darktide fan in closed beta it seems

then hired or smth

[burnt python]

hahahahaha

[shut thorn]

i dont like how the new devs are the ones having to take flak

for the decisions of senior ones

[burnt python]

their higher ups definitely seem like they kinda blow at their jobs

[shut thorn]

this is off of finding their other socials

[shut thorn]

who knows

[wild pilot]

Yeah, just to give an example, the very first choice you make changes how multiple characters perceive you

[shut thorn]

it might be pressure from gw

might be pressure from tencent

[weak galleon]

doesn't say anything, new guys on the team probably won't be allowed to freely change player progression or in-game balance.

[burnt python]

idk how management pressure leads to clearly untested shit making it into the game repeatedly

thats on the lead devs

[shut thorn]

this is not how game dev companies work

new guys are always given the shit end of the stick

[burnt python]

end of the day, the devs in charge are responsible for everything their employees do

simply how business works

[shut thorn]

atleast

its not like new world

[tight niche]

hell yeah, was worried it might be a tactical turn based game with a CRPG skin

[teal needle]

If purg staff does damage in a timely matter now I guess I can give it another go...

[near wyvern]

This was already the case before the patch

[shut thorn]

i did a damnation run earlier

it works nice but god

the quell bug

[burnt python]

really? had not heard of it before, must just be a soulfire buff if thats the case - it is clearly doing better dmg

[wild pilot]

Without going into detail, lets say that I got my rogue trader fantasy fulfilled

[hushed glade]

Can't even touch my psyker until they fix it

[shut thorn]

I still feel like it wasn't a bug due to how specific the conditions for it to happen are

Maybe it was an early attempt to fix shift cancel

That someone forgot to remove

[stone narwhal]

So, I tried out my Veteran, and I got paired with a Psyker using the Surge Staff. Um...I was blind half the match. So apparently the Surge Staff issues are not limited to the Psyker using the staff. This BS has got to be fixed ASAP.

[near wyvern]

So what's the peril bug? There is a huge delay before quelling happens?

[burnt python]

@shut thorn my void is doing same dmg as usual

and is not passing thru carapce

[teal needle]

Bugs are whack like that 🤷

[shut thorn]

guess I had the wrong one equipped then

[shut thorn]

huh

[weak galleon]

Actually yes, saw one on low graphics, distortion still happens

[shut thorn]

Yes, I only ran surge staff on game

It's so annoying

You can't see shit

At-least give me a tiny window or something that isn't blurred

Why give it sprint charging if I can't even make out shapes

[full egret]

does anyone at fatshark actually play psyker?

[shut thorn]

I suspect they do and they're going overboard w/ nerfing it to prevent anyone accusing them of making it op cuz they play it

[hushed glade]

psyker is tacked on class

[wild pilot]

the million dollar question

[full egret]

I don't think so with these bugs getting through.

[wild pilot]

Feels like no playtesting went into it

[full egret]

it takes a crumb of a moment to notice the issues

[shut thorn]

Peril quell doesn't behave like a bug, it was probably some early attempt at cancel fix that slipped through

[full egret]

have you seen the surge stadff?

[shut thorn]

Yeah I played a run with it

[full egret]

I'm honestly wondering how many epileptic psyker mains are in the hospital rn

[shut thorn]

99% chance they have some brightly lit test map or something

[burnt python]

@shut thorn

was a crit on the mauler, usually does ~480 for me iirc

[full egret]

also yaay. My daily shop has rolled a purgatus with warp nexus

for fucks sake

ah yes, id love to crit for 0% more damage!

[burnt python]

thats ideal lol

[idle shuttle]

how about epileptics not play episode endusing stuff

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze on crit, the most useless blessing on void 🙁

[full egret]

eh?

[burnt python]

yeah 😦

[burnt python]

purge crits apply 2x dot stacks

[wild pilot]

you dont like it but thats what peak performance looks like

[sinful stream]

im designing an entire build around this

[full egret]

oh really?

no one told me that lol

[shut thorn]

Ya I prob equipped the wrong voidstrike

[burnt python]

i thought it was new to this patch but @near wyvern said it was always the case

[sinful stream]

and on force sword. idc if its bad im gonna use it till its good

[burnt python]

yeah reroll sprint for crit chance and you in business

[near wyvern]

Yes it has been like this already, you get 2 stacks on crit

[full egret]

kinda low burn though 😐

[stark snow]

that looks very good to me, reroll sprint eff and you're set

[full egret]

ill give it a try

[wild pilot]

I like it

[stark snow]

yah base rolls aren't great but blessings look good imo

and 25% on infested is a pretty good perk for purg imo

[weak galleon]

low burn, but still better than most staves i've seen, given that you can go for crit chance perk right away

[shut thorn]

I really don't understand why it's taking them so long to implement crafting

[weak galleon]

and already have another crit chance on you

[full egret]

max stacks is only 13 though.....

this is my other one

[stark snow]

they have to figure out how to milk as much game time but not piss people off to riot

[weak galleon]

Already have a couple of these, but +20% block seems pretty damn good.

[near wyvern]

Cause they started to work on it when they were about to release and players were like "ok so what's the crafting like" and the devs were like "oooooooh sheeeeitttt I knew we forgot to do something"

[full egret]

4 rolls, emperor be praised

[shut thorn]

That's what I suspect they're doing, intentionally delaying features of it so it would retain a semi consistent playerbase, which would promote the game in steam's storefront algorithm

[near wyvern]

Damn if that staff only had burn and damage swapped

[full egret]

ikr

[hushed glade]

reroll unyielding?

[burnt python]

dmg impacts dot ticks too, both are pretty necessary

cloud dmg & burn are priority on purge

[forest meadow]

Would you say this is worth investing in?

[full egret]

do they?

[burnt python]

"burn intensity" according to the breakdown, unless im misinterpreting

[stark snow]

what is burning intensity on the damage aspect of purg? it's not how fast the dot ticks is it?

[ebon jolt]

Looks good to me.

[shut thorn]

You're literally editing stuff inside an object, reroll perk already does that. The code is literally there already, they're delaying it probably because of some marketing dude's retarded idea

[near wyvern]

Yes. Unyileding is reaper head and bulwark head / body and it's faster to BB them down. Not to talk about the flames don't go through the bulwark shield.

[burnt python]

purg dmg effects

[forest meadow]

Eh just depends on the next perk for me if it will be a keeper or not

[stark snow]

yeah but what does burning intensity actually do?

[burnt python]

apparently smaller burn intensity is better? lol

[full egret]

oh shit, you really do get two stacks from a crit

neat

[stark snow]

it gets lower as it gets better, so the only thing that makes sense is time between dot ticks?

unless it's the rate at which they get applied

[weak galleon]

You have all important stats covered. You have crit chance. You have anti-horde perk, which will come in handy on heresy+
I wish I had smth like that in a shop

[burnt python]

possibly idk their shit is so poorly documented

DoT application rate is handled by burn stat, so prob not that

probably tick rate like you said

or just a goofed dmg multi

[forest meadow]

Well ill keep it favourited then if yall think its good. More of a surge fan if anything but using purge until VFX is fixed.

[stark snow]

yeah, the only thing that makes sense to me is tick rate

[near wyvern]

One would assume so

[full egret]

now i need a singular deflector force sword and ill have a decent build

[mint imp]

I feel like I suck at using the Purg staff, feels like I got no clue wth I'm doing and handing my ass over to get slapped

[burnt python]

79% dmg roll on purge ticks 11 times

can someone compare for a shit roll ?

[weak galleon]

Just buy it and keep it until you'll want to try out Purge.
Yours is really good damage output wise, you just want second perk as a crit chance. Don't recommend getting rid of +25% against unarmored, it's damn good on higher difficulties, where they dont burn down instantly from your flame.

[shut thorn]

It's very cool how they added subpar PS "equivalents" to zealot and ogryn

[full egret]

owwie that surge staff does really hurt my eyes

[west fjord]

Worth rerolling any of the perks or just leave it? Unarmoured is decent against horde but not sure if anything else is better

[burnt python]

I would probably reroll unarmoured for flak, but that thing is niiiice either way

very nice void

[violet fossil]

[forest meadow]

Thanks for the information mate, Appreciate it.

What is the max you can get on Warp Nexus rolls? is it 5%? and is there currently a way to increase blessings?

[stark snow]

ok just tested it, seems to be tick rate, but the diff between high damage and low is minimal

[forest meadow]

Bugs me the staff is 3% and not 5%

[burnt python]

does it ever reach a point where you see less ticks?

[stark snow]

55%-80% is a .35 tick rate to .32 tick rate, for 11 ticks.

about to test

[burnt python]

i dont haave anythign under 60 to test

[dim cradle]

The emperor just personally blessed me 🙏 which perk should I reroll?

[full egret]

god damn

[burnt python]

thats a beauty

[full egret]

literally a better version of the staff i just got

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/41e403b4e7ca6493433d4d55770f0334
worth using?

[spice remnant]

does charging staff for longer just do more damage, or does it do longer stun on surge also

[burnt python]

honestly for a staff that good, i'd prob hold off on locking in a perk til breakpoints are better understood and balancing is more stable

[stark snow]

both 55% damage and 80% damage (.35 tick rate and .32 tick rate) tick 11 times

[dim cradle]

That's fair! Good advice

[burnt python]

ok so maybe it is a dead stat lol

[weak galleon]

wait, what was Infested, again?

[white badger]

Do we know if changing perks now will block us from changing blessings eventually?

[stark snow]

yeah, I actually think since the diff is so minimal, slightly slower ticks allow you to get more stacks easier

[burnt python]

infested is pox dudes and dogs i believe

[stark snow]

might be so minimal diff it doesn't matter

[ebon jolt]

Really? I would have re-rolled crit for flak and kept unarmored.

[weak galleon]

so part of unarmored trash infantry and dogs?

[graceful steppe]

what curio blessings do you all prefer? 1x wound? 2x toughness? 2x health? 1 of each?

[burnt python]

i value crit a lot on void personally, and most unarmored shit dies to 1 hs anyways

[weak galleon]

like, "infested" is a very weird definition.
Entirety of our enemies are "infested". It's a damn nurglite uprising.

[burnt python]

void is lacking in killing scab gunners, thats where i want to beef it up most

[weak galleon]

pumping toughness/block atm. More riskier against stuff like poxbursters/grenades, less risky against ranged/melee.
Will, probably, switch back to at least +1 Wound later on.

like, amount of ranged enemies on high difficulties is ungodly.

a friggin trench warfare.

[burnt python]

i like hp because fire

boosting toughness didnt feel impactful enough vs damnation ranged regardless

[white badger]

Infested = Pox Walker trash mobs and Pox Hounds

[burnt python]

bombers spawn in fucking squads on damn

[idle eagle]

Game was a lot more engaging with staff animation cancel

[burnt python]

and toughness no longer matters if you get touched

[jaunty moth]

there we go

[ebon jolt]

With unarmored % damage and a good damage roll you can kill dreg gunners with a single with a left click and kill mobs with less charge on a right click. Seems good to me 🤷‍♂️

[burnt python]

that is good, didnt know of that bp

[shut thorn]

How to have fun as psyker

[burnt python]

i believe flak dmg reaches the same bp vs scab gunners

[steep bridge]

Psyker isn't a playstyle, Psyker is a way of life

[burnt python]

bahahah with 20% flak dmg boost my void leaves scab gunners at about 8 hp after hs

fuck me

78% dmg roll

[ebon jolt]

Are you using psy wrath?

[burnt python]

yes but testing at 0 peril because i dont always use

and w/ 0 charges

[shut thorn]

yknow whats amazing

fatshark has had

similar staves before

[shut thorn]

and theyve been fixed

[onyx sentinel]

Where is this confirmed? I don’t see it on the updated patch notes

[shut thorn]

why didnt they just take vt2 vers

idgi

[ebon jolt]

So if you have 25% and 80% damage you’d probably kill it?

[shut thorn]

pins

[burnt python]

doubtful, heres the dmg range

probably need 90%+ roll to hit that bp

aka to get 8 more dmg

guess you'd need slightly less when considering hs multi

[burnt python]

wait hol up 25%, yes maybe, i forgot they can roll up to that

[onyx sentinel]

Inb4 the fix “slips through the net” just like Thunder Hammer

[burnt python]

also why does the larger, charged up voidball, not suppress??

[spiral remnant]

8th golden gun from big E

please... i beg of you...

[spice remnant]

does surge staff stun scale with anything? a stat or holding charge longer?

[burnt python]

I don't believe so but do not know that for fact

[low tulip]

nope, holding charge just does more damage 🙂

[eager nexus]

Would be nice if the longer you held it the more enemies it would jump to.

[night marten]

4 minimum, 10 maximum or something

to incentivize charging more

[spiral remnant]

i wish melk wasnt as RNG based an more of a "more tokens you spend = guaranteed higher base rating"

[onyx sentinel]

So does fatshark do Hotfixes or do we have to wait until their weekly-ish update?

[spiral remnant]

rng melk is just a slightly better version of the regular shop

[low tulip]

a lot of things psykers do would be nice with some tweaks... but since we are filthy mutants, the god emperor just keeps throwing us the shadow nerf hammer till one day we get used as throne food

[night marten]

me too friend. me too.

[ebon jolt]

I did the math and the 5% difference in flak armor modifier should get you over 8 damage by itself. The weakspot modifier for flak armor on the void staff is ~1.75. 136.8 * 1.75 * .05 = ~12.

[low tulip]

I wish the higher base rating weapons in general just get more consistency with spending more..... the base rating RNG right now doesn't make any sense

[night marten]

all of melk's items should be like 340 base or *higher, or the equivalent scaling with lower levels

[ebon jolt]

Almost good :/

[eager nexus]

very decent

[night marten]

feel like void always needs quell weakspot blessing, like FS needs deflector, and purge needs warp nexus

[faint steeple]

Are the Challenges counting on Private Matches? Because i killed 3 elite when i explode but dont get the archivement

[forest meadow]

Probably not to counter cheating

[night marten]

don't see why they wouldn't be since you can get them in full premades, but I haven't tested

otherwise... man is the community going to be fucking pissed

[solar crag]

I got a 380 surge and could not be happier

[severe folio]

so private lobby

dont count achievements…?

[forest meadow]

Probably not

[acoustic socket]

Whether we wanted it or not, we've walked into a war with the Heretics on Atoma Prime, so let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Captain Nils Thackerill, from what I can gather he commands the scabs from the Magistrati Oubliette TM8-707 just inside Tertium. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Tertium.

[forest meadow]

Bruh man when are the new Cosmetic lineups gonna drop. Literally all we have for content at the moment. I want to Windowshop

[weak galleon]

I dream of the day when Melk's is not total garbage.

[night marten]

fuckin scam I tell you

[weak galleon]

totally

[forest meadow]

Shouldn't you buy it since you can change blessings later?

[night marten]

definitely not

[boreal sun]

EXCUSE ME

[weak galleon]

look at the base.

[fresh reef]

Anyone know if it's possible to get duplicate perks?

[night marten]

335 base stats for at least 2 weeks worth of tokens?

[boreal sun]

EXCUSE ME HELLO PSYKERS

SALUTATIONS

[forest meadow]

Ah fair enough

[night marten]

assuming you actually get good contracts? hell no. it's a trash melk's role, per usual

[boreal sun]

WHY ISNT MY FORCE SWORD DOING AOE DAMAGE NOW

[idle cove]

please don't yell, my head already hurts enough

[night marten]

VISUAL BUFF

[forest meadow]

Bugged probs

[boreal sun]

VISUAL

NICE

[weak galleon]

even then, 335 base can be good, with enough luck.
but this one got 49% burn, 67% dmg.

[bleak tulip]

even the visual thing isnt a thing

it looks the same

[night marten]

I've noticed literally no difference either

[fresh reef]

lululul

[nocturne palm]

thoughts?

[bleak tulip]

is sword

[night marten]

380 base stats with high damage

is good

[forest meadow]

This was literally "Psyker : Get Fucked" the Content Drop.

[cold oasis]

just buy it

[night marten]

purge staff feels good now fyi

[forest meadow]

True

[boreal sun]

holy fuk

[frigid sparrow]

Holding charge longer means longer stun. The enemy is stunned during the animation. Longer charge, longer animation

[low tulip]

only problem is they nerfed dueling speedy thing which was the sole reason to use dueling sword...

[boreal sun]

did they improve performance?

[weak galleon]

why exactly?

[night marten]

like, purge hits real hard now

[boreal sun]

i feel like im getting more fps now

[forest meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/clumsy-fall-down-stairs-gif-4783410

But Surge Staff

[weak galleon]

does it feel good if you don't have any crits on it?

[bleak tulip]

the have fucked with the base damage somehow

[weak galleon]

ohh

[bleak tulip]

so it does damage now

[weak galleon]

nice.

[gray island]

They didn’t nerf they full on killed it

[weak galleon]

ok

[night marten]

yes.

[boreal sun]

does same damage.

[weak galleon]

i enjoyed it to take a break from Void even before

[boreal sun]

damage has not changed.

unless burn does more.

[bleak tulip]

no its not burn

the thing jsut does more damage

disregard the numbers

[night marten]

I disagree, I'm able to do more damage now with full charged secondary. consistently

[bleak tulip]

they mean next to nothing anyway

[weak galleon]

This one is waiting until I get the goddamn plasteel.

[wintry nacelle]

Finaly...

[outer smelt]

ahahah. When you reroll SO many times that you get to the point it is now free.

[low tulip]

btw, did they mention that it's a bug or is it intentional? cause yeah... dueling swords were cool till that change and now there's absolutely no reason to use it

[burnt python]

wow the peril bug feels so much fucking worse in game than testing

[sinful stream]

working on this now. how did u do the perils of the warp explosion? malice has lower health enemies but its hard to find 3 elites i can kill with it

[weak galleon]

my story of (un)success.

[wintry nacelle]

With a ogryn friend

Shield + stack elite

[sinful stream]

ah makes sense. you do it on heresy?

[boreal sun]

damage does not feel that much difference.

[wintry nacelle]

And... A lot of luck

[boreal sun]

still takes 1 full charge + some burn ticks to kill rager

[sinful stream]

yeah cuz like you need to weaken up every single enemy and be able to gather like 5+

[burnt python]

gotta say it d oesnt feel as good in game as i hoped

on damn

[covert cosmos]

purge staff was always good

purge staff enjoyers rise up

[weak galleon]

decent, I'd say. could use slight buff.

[night marten]

KO still not great?

[covert cosmos]

now we're even stronger

[gray island]

they said nothing that I read. Just a silent patch. I’m guess it was a bug that got unintentionally fixed or they just ninja patched it

[spiral remnant]

solid staff methinks

[weak galleon]

no reason to keep it weaker than Zealot's flamethrower

[burnt python]

staff in general still not great imo

[spiral remnant]

only shame is the base rating

[burnt python]

i fucking hate being so exposed to gunners

[wintry nacelle]

Yes to avoid having ragers with too much life

[weak galleon]

we have other things we pay with for "infinite ammo"

[burnt python]

im sure it'll be good on a good team but rn in damn pugs it aint cuttin it vs void

[weak galleon]

damage though..

[ebon jolt]

Why couldn't this be a Mk 1 😢

[sinful stream]

thanks. Im off to the LFG channels to se e if someone will give me a hand

[covert cosmos]

zealot flamethrower has ammo and takes a while to get started

[weak galleon]

plus terrifying barrage is not super useful, from what Im getting

[sinful stream]

oh lol but what ogryn would want to use shield rn

[low tulip]

to be fair... nothing a psyker does can compare to any other class lol

[covert cosmos]

also means you aren't doing ranged dmg as a zealot

[ashen ore]

For any new psykers out there dont make the same mistake I did. NEVER use the axe on psyker......could barely fend off regular mobs

[burnt python]

you just used the wrong axe my guy

[wintry nacelle]

Have you done the monstrosity kill ?

[random wolf]

You need Brutal Momentum on axes for horde clear

[fallow loom]

in a purgatus staff, what blessings and perks should i go for?

[sinful stream]

yep got it this morning with a group (daemonhost)

[random wolf]

Otherwise it won't cleave enough

[weak galleon]

you, sir, have clearly NOT been introduced to the glorious master race of Mk5 Axe Siblings.

[wintry nacelle]

Oh fuck nice haha

[gray island]

Get a ogre. With a shield to Agro a deamonhost and just BB it

[ashen ore]

I used the terrible IV combat axe

[sinful stream]

all i have left is Pick n' Mix and Going out With a Bang

[calm tulip]

@ashen ore dude, don't give players tips if YOU are the new psyker

[random wolf]

Again; brutal Momentum blessing lol

[covert cosmos]

damn purge does sick dmg now

[weak galleon]

why?

[random wolf]

Turns any Axe into a horde shredder

[wintry nacelle]

These two are kind a difficult tbh

[burnt python]

get yourself a mk v and push attack til your brain stops working

[weak galleon]

use Mk5 instead.

[covert cosmos]

before it was still good for the horde cc

[hushed glade]

is it possible to do pick n mix with quell bug now?

[weak galleon]

Don't forget to get Kinetic Deflection lvl 20 (afaik?) talent too.

[gray island]

Purge did awesome damage before everyone was just hardstuck on surge staff. Now that everyone’s having seizures using surge they gotta double back

[boreal sun]

yas

[random wolf]

Either way I prefer Force Sword anyway.

[ebon jolt]

Crit change % & Warp Nexus. Terrifying Barrage is also probably good.

[random wolf]

Light > Heavy is decent enough.

[burnt python]

force sword is certainly more engaging to use

[ashen ore]

That makes no sense. If I know something about something and I am new I shouldn't tell people?

[gray island]

Is block efficiency even useful if you’re using the deflector feat?

[fallow loom]

any crit chance% is good?

[stark snow]

nice gl on last bless

[low tulip]

blaze sword with deflector and good stat EXISTS???

[sinful stream]

i believe so, just need to time your F correctly

[boreal sun]

considering block cost is reduced on the blessing itself, yes.

[weak galleon]

Force Sword is completely valid pick.

Force Sword for safe gameplay with ranged block blessing on top of it.
Mk5 Axe for DPS powerhouse + insane melee tank/daemonhost tanker.

[gray island]

But don’t you want peril? It caps out at 80% and quietude doesn’t help if you have no peril

[calm tulip]

you shoulf probably not tell it like "dude this is a 100% hint"

[humble saddle]

force for safe gameplay lmao

[boreal sun]

you can block longer? lol.

[weak galleon]

yes, it still has awesome push (not push attack).

means, CC.

and then push attack if you want some more targeted CC

[stark snow]

I'd rather be able to block for longer

[boreal sun]

https://streamable.com/9mxkm1

i mean

[gray island]

I feel like the deflector fear gives a huge block time from low peril to begin with. Never reached past 30% on a res with it.

[boreal sun]

I had two reapers shooting me there

no extra 15% to help out

only died because bad block angle

[ebon jolt]

You want the perk for 5% crit chance.

Because crits apply extra soulblaze stacks.

[boreal sun]

i'd rather roll another 15% block chance as well

I think the blessing can roll up to like.. 10% at least

45% block reduction is crazy

[stark snow]

blessing can go up to 12%

[fallow loom]

i see, tyvm

[low tulip]

wait... that's from perks right? I've been generally confused with how and what soulblazes are so I just avoid them when choosing perks

[ebon jolt]

Which perk do I roll for block efficiency? 🤔

[boreal sun]

specialist

[weak galleon]

throw away specialists.

[prime horizon]

what a life i tell you hwat

[boreal sun]

unarmoured still covers specialist without armor

[weak galleon]

Top tier endgame activity. Breathtaking gameplay.

[boreal sun]

force sword is only good at killing specials with special attack

[ebon jolt]

Does unarmored cover anything without flak or carapace? Like infested?

[burnt python]

just realizing we lost race (?) specific perks

[boreal sun]

hey guys just a friendly reminder

[burnt python]

+scab dmg, +dreg dmg

[timid brook]

Only use it for blocking and stunning hordes lol

[boreal sun]

pysker drip

[gray island]

Specialist is too specific of a feat and a low % when you can get simething like carapace or flak that covers most specialists

[boreal sun]

then you're not using force sword properly.

[timid brook]

Ur not a zealot bro don't get too caught up on melee

[stark snow]

I got rid of crit damage and kept specialist on mine, but 8% crit damage is kinda shit tbh anyway

[boreal sun]

it doesn't matter what class you are

force sword destroys everything

[stark snow]

I'd probably keep unarmored and also reroll specialist on that one

[weak galleon]

well, you ofc. should use charged attack against specific targets, but FS main perk is not in it's overall damage dealing ability.

that's what you got Mk5 for.

[boreal sun]

force sword is all around the best pick when you have deflector.

[stark snow]

I mean, fs lawnmower is pretty insane clear

[timid brook]

FS's defining trait is that it's an insane CC that can freeze an entire horde and block doors better than shield ogryns

The buff to the special is ok but its still not a damage dealer lol

[boreal sun]

bruh

a fully charged force sword special attack on the boss while unshielded, does enough damage to put him back in the shield

[weak galleon]

Mk5 has much, much more melee dps/horde clear. and has incomparably better melee block due to passive quell difference between force/non-force weapons.
FS has much better CC, deflector, and can deploy burst damage nuke in specific situations.

[mental rock]

I thought the FS buff was merely visual

[ebon jolt]

Agreed. Feel like it should be higher. First you have to actually get a crit and then it increases the damage. So with a base 5% crit rate a 10% crit damage but is equivalent to .5% higher DPS on all targets. Meanwhile you could get 10% weakspot damage which is a flat 10% DPS boost on (almost) all targets.

[boreal sun]

regardless

doesn't matter what you use, because psyker best class

xd

[timid brook]

Nah it does a little more dmg now but still will kill you if you try to use it near too many enemies

[stark snow]

mine has t1 shred, and even with that, 8% crit damage is overall like 1.2% damage

felt like it was just better to reroll that nad keep specialist

[ebon jolt]

I want blessing reroll out so I can get deflector on my better FS 😢

[mild surge]

thoughts on upgrading to leggo?

[stark snow]

I don't know how much the quell will matter for mk5 once I roll up 3 block efficiency curios now that its easy to get

I guess you're giving up something for that too

[humble saddle]

no

[jaunty moth]

this thing slaps

[mild surge]

trying to find my way

[night marten]

313 base stats, absolutely not

[stark snow]

but idk, think with teh ability to roll block perk on sword and all your curios, Axe won't have as huge gap at blocking melee

[mild surge]

minimum base advised?

[night marten]

350+, with damage over 65% on most weapons, with some exceptions on specific weapon/blessing combos

[mystic dirge]

^

[mild surge]

oke thanks 🙂

[timid brook]

350 bases arent common just keep that in mind as u grind lol

Specially good 350s

[calm tulip]

when there is nothing valuable to buy or upgrade

[timid brook]

Show curios

No way you have bis curios

[mild surge]

well i do check the green ones for base stats tho

[night marten]

they're a trap

[timid brook]

??

[night marten]

??

[timid brook]

Toughness regen speed and corruption resistance?

[boreal sun]

i do think it's dumb

[night marten]

those are good sure. can you avoid +exp, +gold, and +curio chance?

[boreal sun]

that you have to aim this high for the second chain attack to hit head

[timid brook]

Refine

[night marten]

that is definitely a super nice addition

[timid brook]

If you can get 20%+ hp and toughness regen with resistance ur good

3rd perk doesnt even matter that much at that point bcuz only thing left is revive speed

And they matter big time

[night marten]

or more hp, but yea

[timid brook]

Yeah but hp cant roll that high and toughness is huge

Corruption resist by itself makes wounds useless

[weak galleon]

toughness regen is huge? does it affect lvl5 talents?

i thought it's only coherency toughness.

[timid brook]

No but any toughness regen % allows you to regen passive toughness

[burnt python]

toughness regen aint worth

[night marten]

I don't disagree, though lots of people just don't do toughness on curious since it doesn't feel like it makes much of a difference against gunners

[random wolf]

That'll do

[stark snow]

I think t1 perk is considered "replenish" not regen

[timid brook]

Toughness regen is as the name says regen

[burnt python]

or it is worth hbut its not priority

hp, more hp, then toughness regen etc

[timid brook]

if you play without toughness regen ur toughness is going to be low for most of the matches

[burnt python]

quietitude exists

[timid brook]

Anyone who plays with lynchpin ogryns know how good regen is

[burnt python]

100% and 15% are very different lol

[night marten]

let me just pull my backpocket lynchpin orgryn out

[timid brook]

Purple u don't even have a friend code on ur name

[burnt python]

hahahaha ok?

[low tulip]

is it actually possible to get base level past 380? I've seen so many weapons at 380 but keep seeing claims about base level 400 existing but never seeing a screenshot of it

[night marten]

not that i've seen

[timid brook]

Any regen is good regen, curios can roll up to 30%

This may come as a surprise to yall but psyker sucks at replenishing toughness(shocker)

So yes you need regen

[low tulip]

so many youtubers and reddit post claims that it exists.... but yeah... never actually seen one

[dim pier]

Someone's confirmed a 381

[stark snow]

yah, but all the stats still added up to 380 right?

[tight saddle]

There's a bug that shows higher than 380 rating but if you add up all the stats it's less than 380

[timid brook]

Rating is your allocated stat currency

It means you can roll that much doesnt mean you will

But also means your PL rating can go very high

[low tulip]

ah..... ok.... that makes sense (380 being top to allow variation to some degree instead of everyone just bonehead going for 400 without reading)

[tight saddle]

So people confuse that bug with actual rating and continue to pass the rumor around.

[ebon jolt]

I'm pretty sure current max is 20%. So 60% with all 3 curios rolling max.

[timid brook]

You can roll 30%

[low tulip]

381.... am curious if that's the said bug...

[dim pier]

Lemme see if I can dig up the screenshot

[calm tulip]

here are the ones currently equiped

[tight saddle]

I have a hammer that shows 380 but adding up the stats is 379

[timid brook]

You need new curios like yesterday lol

[burnt python]

this peril bug feels fuckin awful in game

[low tulip]

please, thanks, my curiosity is killing me.... especially when my shop RNG has been shit even though I purchased every single 350+ weapon I see hoping a 360+ will appear someday which never did...

[calm tulip]

the fuck all the bases i get are shite.

[ebon jolt]

I don't have a tier 4 toughness regen perk but tier 3 is 15%. There is no way tier 4 is 30%.

[dim pier]

If someone can add that up for me I'd appreciate it, midround rn

[burnt python]

thats a 377

[low tulip]

ah, so past 380 truly is graphical glitch

[stark snow]

t4 toughness regen is 20% dude

[low tulip]

does that graphic glitch only happen to past 380 items? cause if not.... jesus christ that's a trap on the purchase game

[timid brook]

Bro yall don't have it but theres people with it, just like pople thought max hp% was 20

[runic gate]

Mines a T R U E 380.

[timid brook]

Ur thinking about toughness % not toughness regen speed

[night marten]

that's highest I've seen on a single roll

maybe 21?

[stark snow]

I have a curio with t4 regen dude

you're just confidently wrong

[burnt python]

toughness max is 17

[timid brook]

Ur gonna roll it eventually dw

[acoustic socket]

Kind warlocks, I am once again asking for your aid in fighting the Cabal on Mars

[dim pier]

Too busy eating the titan's supply of crayons

[low tulip]

that just makes me jealous.... though, again, does the number glitch happen to below 380 items?

[woven crow]

any tips for the three elite kamakazi?

[night marten]

again?

[timid brook]

https://gyazo.com/0d14feb2cd55d38e56029a8601dab83f https://gyazo.com/257de5f86867405eb0bc22c3b6987b32

[acoustic socket]

valus ta'aurc

[frigid sparrow]

So they added a delay on weapon swap before you can start the charge eh?

[ebon jolt]

Yeah the top is a blessing and the bottom is a perk :/

[stark snow]

Yes, one is the top symbol for the inherent blessing the other is for the perk

[timid brook]

That's not max

[tight saddle]

Practice in the meat grinder to see how much your weapons and the explosion do so you can soften them up enough to kill them with it.

[burnt python]

but we dont have friend codes

[stark snow]

Ur just trolling

[timid brook]

Smh gonna have to get on my pc for this

[stark snow]

Or you have no idea what you’re talking about

[tight saddle]

Perks come in tiers, 1-4, there is no higher tier.

But yeah they're just trolling at this point.

[woven crow]

so you're saying not to run into hordes and blow up hopefully?

[night marten]

gotta say this is pretty confusing

[timid brook]

Yes because there's ranges

you dont always roll max

[burnt python]

blessings always have that symbol regardless of roll

[timid brook]

I've seen upwards to 25% max health

[burnt python]

hahaha you are just making shit up

[night marten]

sure, but having the visual icon next to it is bizarre

[burnt python]

hp caps at 21 rn, toughness 17

weapon stats go up to 100% too on ur char huh

[calm tulip]

ye he's talking shit

[timid brook]

They hated jesus because he told the truth aswell

[burnt python]

hahahahaha

[timid brook]

Yee naysayers

[calm tulip]

go trolling elsewhere

[frigid marten]

curio are probally like weapon they cap at 80% of the max

[burnt python]

ez block

[calm tulip]

this

[timid brook]

[woven crow]

they hated him cos he was a troublemaker. Stop makin trouble

[ebon jolt]

If you use the games lantern build editor you can get up to 30%. But that does not fully reflect what's available in game.

[teal needle]

Jesus was a loser, Gork's da real prophet

[ebon jolt]

Don't have enough money to buy this right now 😦

[timid brook]

Gamelantern literally datamined the game

[stark snow]

Trash some of your garbage?

[timid brook]

It's not assumptions its in the files

[woven crow]

you mispelt Mork.

[teal needle]

Oh sh-

[sick kindle]

Time to sell the excess

[tight saddle]

Games having things in the files doesn't mean they're active in the game while the data is stored. Are you new to datamining?

[remote tusk]

Don't feed the troll

[meager plinth]

psyker's only buff this update, making the bash of the laspistol work

[woven crow]

whats the deal with me not being able to R sometimes?

[supple skiff]

known bug ^

[manic needle]

It is, thankfully, a bug

[teal needle]

New bug, enjoy until they decide to fix it

[tight saddle]

aka stealth nerf lmfao

[stark snow]

Las pistol is funny with animation cancel , you can basically turn it full auto

[remote tusk]

Got it when trying for pick n mix. Was real fun

[tight saddle]

How's the recoil?

[stark snow]

Bad

[meager plinth]

if you happen to record it id like to see how dumb it looks

[woven crow]

"Reloading? Sorry this isn't COD"

[tight saddle]

rip I was going to buy one of it was bearable lol

[analog juniper]

it has decent recoil

especially when ads

[stark snow]

Yah let me see if I can get some footage it’s hilarious

[random wolf]

Laspistol is for crits

Aka not for us lol

[lucid mortar]

my psyker will wear the bowl of shame henceforth until the shameful patch has passed

[tight saddle]

ADS while ani cancelling?

[analog juniper]

no

[woven crow]

SHAME BOWL! SHAME BOWL!

[analog juniper]

imperial urinal

[night marten]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-mods-bethesda-vX9WcCiWwUF7G

[tight saddle]

Oh, we were talking about ani cancelling to full auto

[frigid hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-smoking-gif-25020845

[dense cloud]

i jsutr had a voice laine ove you want tpo patch someting 😄 ahahah

[dense wasp]

Idk what to roll :S

[dense cloud]

i lvoe how you cant role t4 exp on low lvl curios liekwtf

[nocturne palm]

is duty raiment further penance then service rainment??

[supple skiff]

sweet terra

[sick kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/jesuschrist-jesus-christ-kid-giacomopisano-gif-19088356

[stark snow]

pistol wizard inc

thats with a prtty crappy pistol too

[ebon jolt]

Carapace because void blows against carapace.

[supple skiff]

that a macro or can you actually do that with normalish imputs

[lucid mortar]

I'd probably reroll carapace to maniac dmg

[stuck bridge]

my HEAD

[dense wasp]

if you go to training, you will quickly figure out that maniac damage blows just as much as carapae 😄 but at the same time, when will I ever use it against carapace, if I had unyielding + carapace, then I do more damage to the armoured ogryns with secondary attack than I do with brain burst

[ebon jolt]

Or 25% flak armor which would be pretty good. Or unarmored.

Also I want your staff.

[delicate stratus]

Flak is better. You already can oneshot unarmored.

...With a good headshot anyway.

[left basin]

when siker qol patch.

[sick kindle]

Patch notes include sacrificing all psykers to the emperor. The game only has three classes now.

[random wolf]

Now any quell past 100 will have a delay

[left basin]

sikers need to oneshot boss pls now.

counterbalance is getting the game deleted

[supple skiff]

lol the new mission map is delayed

fucking hell

[sick kindle]

No but seriously, this counts for the third time in a row with nerfs. When the community is very much aware the class is already underperforming.

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-stop-hes-already-dead-gif-15192144

[tight saddle]

Wow

Carapace

[lucid mortar]

I think we're giving them too much credit by calling them nerfs, they're just not testing shit

[left basin]

wut did they norf

[tight saddle]

Brain ain't working

[left basin]

did nasty migraine get a nerf????

[sick kindle]

Underperforming when you aren't abusing macros and tech** Which Fatshark sees as exploits anyway and will get fixed. No more lawnmower FS and yeehaw cowboy las pistols

[tight saddle]

You can't quell immediately after 100% peril BB and it has an awful feeling delay now

[dusky lantern]

are ragers considered unyielding?

or maniacs

[dense wasp]

maniacs

[left basin]

in a year or two they're gonna release psyker the psykiest and it will include an aoe bb with more damage

[dense wasp]

unyielding is only monstrosities and ogryns iirc

[rapid cliff]

Even the light swing on malice difficulty can turn horde enemies to paste and can kill a scab gunner with one heavy swing

So is it good

[left basin]

so is there anything broken about psyker to be abused right now?

[sick kindle]

Not just BB, literally any peril generation. Could be from peril blocking. Force sword charging. Staves. Push stabs. You name it.

[ashen ore]

What exactly does hit mass do?

[lucid horizon]

i have a question, the new map, solo mode, and emotes got delayed? 🤨

[left basin]

i'm trying to get to the welder helmet

[rapid cliff]

I'm assuming it means the pushback from being hit?

[left basin]

it's the post-launch beta, you gotta wait for the features

[lucid horizon]

mierda

[tight saddle]

I made a good decision to not play my Psyker yet this patch lmao

[ebon jolt]

Slows down/blocks your strike so you can’t cleave.

[ashen ore]

I think they call that fraud and it is a illegal

[left basin]

what are you gonna do file a class action lawsuit

[meager crag]

You bastard.. I made the horrible decision to play the psyker this patch!, it's been rough, ngl

[sick kindle]

Can't have fun in video games anymore. Just gotta consume them. Now go buy some Aquillas or get hosed with more nerfs.

[teal needle]

Gamer activism is my favorite joke

[fresh reef]

ok who in the fuck Okay'd the new surge vfx? this shit is actually unusable now lol

[lucid mortar]

Psyker balance changes over the next month will just be fixes to bugs they introduce while giving the other classes stuff lol

[tight saddle]

Idk the more I play this game the less I want to play it in its current state after 250 hours

[left basin]

i am doing my part randomly shitposting in fatshark-owned media accounts

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[cerulean beacon]

I haven't had such issues as I have just been avoiding BB 100% and just not hitting 100% peril honestly, but my real problem is, how the actual Emperor do I complete 'Going out with a Bang' Penance? ITS LIKE NOTHING DIES

[ashen ore]

I mean we all should have done that but you know who has time for that

[ornate hamlet]

*Fixed a bug where Psyker players were using their copium to keep them playing

[tight saddle]

It's because we use tech at 100% peril that significantly improves the performance of Psyker. So it's a big deal.

[sick kindle]

Fatshark be all like 'We have heard you and we are fixing pennances'. Proceeding to do absolutely nothing but change the wording of the penances, as if it's some sort of monkey paw wish

[left basin]

*Added a bug where Psyker players could equip psyker staves. Fixed and moved to ogryn

[sick kindle]

There are talents that literally buff you for playing in high ranges.

[meager crag]

That's hoenstly the dropoff point now. I see so many people say 'after 200h i'm spend'

[sick kindle]

Why are we being punished to play the game to the class description?

Fuck it, I'm just convinced they don't play their own game they make.

[cyan notch]

they also added sparky vfx for fs block so its harder to see while blocking

[lucid mortar]

It's just classic devs overpromising and underdelivering

[meager crag]

I think that's every developer ever, lol

[fresh reef]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cassia_(Ogryn)

[tight saddle]

The gameplay loop itself is fine, it's the inability to use specific weapons with specific combinations FOR FUN that killed the replayability for me. I don't even want to use OP stuff, I just want to try fun combinations. But this game won't let me.

[meager crag]

Why play anything outside of like.. THE BEST weapons. Everything else is clunky, does to low of dmg or requires more work to pull off, doesn't feel as fun as it should. I should mention that i'm agreeing with you too.

[stark snow]

ok, I think I got it even faster now

[rotund crystal]

What is this ?

[meager crag]

Uhm

whaa

[tight saddle]

Because there's no modded difficulties like VT2 had so Damnation is easy and you can do it with any loadout. You can even use grey weapons just fine. I'm here for the different loadout playstyles that were available to me in Vermintide to do silly things.

[sick kindle]

That is absolutely hillarious. And I will weep when it gets fixed.

[bleak sonnet]

game sucks, uninstall gang

[dusky lantern]

I think he's using mousewheel macros

[rotund crystal]

I like it :D

[teal needle]

Gunkata

[tight saddle]

lmfao amazing. I'm buying one now

[meager crag]

Agree'd. I wanna get my inner RP going but the game feels like it's preventing me from playing how I want, yet it also seems like the game itself WANTS me to play anything, given how simplistic and/or equally shit everything is coming, but at the same time, nothing feels good enough to just play whatever I want.

[rotund crystal]

what witchcraft is this ?

[bleak sonnet]

:D

[stark snow]

PISTOL WIZARDRY

[bleak sonnet]

happy you're enjoying yourself

[tight saddle]

warp stuff

[teal needle]

I did bring a grey ax and accatran into heresy for giggles on my vet and did fine

[meager crag]

You're taking pistol whipping to a whole new meaning.

[trail garnet]

read the patch notes but didnt see private lobbies mentioned, did i just misread it or is it still not added?

[rotund crystal]

shieeet should've not skipped the advanced pkyskarium training

[stark snow]

these are my timings for anyone who wants to mess around with it, might have to tweak them a bit

[rotund crystal]

Is it where it teaches you how to transform a laspistol to a fucking machin gun ?

[supple skiff]

wouldn't trust the patchnotes, they keep changing

[rotund crystal]

Oh ok lmao

[cyan notch]

its there

in the game i mean

[trail garnet]

right on, thanks im updating now

time to finally do some penances

[rotund crystal]

Wait it's finally here ?

[tight saddle]

The Zealot chat loved it, go look at their reaction. Scroll up to where I tagged you

[rotund crystal]

You don't have to pray for your teammate to not let you 3 goddamn special for that one cool vest ?

[stark snow]

haha ty, its cause of the draw speed I think

[solar remnant]

What is your keybind for v?

[night marten]

did anyone else get way more items in melk's shop than normal?

[solar remnant]

Ya I did

[night marten]

the rolls are still trash, but seems like there's a bunch more options

[lucid mortar]

my shop had 5 revolvers

[rotund crystal]

Oof

[burnt python]

melk went from 4 to 5 items lol

[stark snow]

v is my weapon quick swap

[long wharf]

yep, I have to run blurgp purge until they fix the bullshit they added to surge

[stark snow]

I use q for reload and r for tagging

[night marten]

I've got a legit scroll bar

[solar remnant]

Ah got it

[stark snow]

didn't use quickswap a lot but still wanted it handy so I moved it to v

[burnt python]

you right its up to 8 now on reset

nice

[long wharf]

75% more disappointment per day, nice!

[prisma minnow]

do penances complete if you fail the mission?

[burnt python]

8 guns / tac axes to choose ffrom

thanks melk

[rotund crystal]

depends on the penance

[prisma minnow]

going out with a bang to be specific if that helps

thinking i might just try it with bots but then dont trust the bots to be able to pick me back up

[rotund crystal]

I do not no I haven't done it yet

[burnt python]

for most of the ones that dont say complete a mission... you have to either complete or die, can't leave

[lusty wave]

How TF

Do you complete heresy as a psyker

I feel like I'm manhandled

[long wharf]

not true

[lusty wave]

Someone please make me understand I'm losing my God damn mind

[long wharf]

if the penance doesn't say "complete a mission" then all you have to do is what it says

[rotund crystal]

well ya pray the emprah blesses you with zealots and ogryns lmao

[burnt python]

you can quit after?

[long wharf]

of course

[lusty wave]

@rotund crystal HELL nah lmfaoo

[burnt python]

huh, didnt work like that in pob

[lusty wave]

Are you telling me psyker just sucks in heresy???

[long wharf]

it sure did

[lusty wave]

That's bull

[tight saddle]

It's hard to give advice without knowing how you play or what you struggle against.

[lusty wave]

I dedicated 60 hours on this bish

[heady bramble]

good?

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle I struggle against the rage targets. Especially in hordes

[rotund crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-wheeze-meme-laugh-laughing-gif-21074028

[lusty wave]

Range*

[long wharf]

save yourself and use a different staff type until FatDevs fix the new VFX for surge staves

[cedar grove]

Glad I got all my Psyker penances done last week, cause these notes look like Psyker mains are on suicide watch

[rotund crystal]

we are

[long wharf]

soulblaze got a stealth slight buff

[lusty wave]

@long wharf wdym?

[heady bramble]

i mean i use purg but is this worth buying for later?

[lusty wave]

How do you use purge? You effectively have no ranged options. What about gunners??

[woven crow]

Stun gun tbh, don't even bother BBing. Just let your team kill them.

[rotund crystal]

it comes at a point were Psyker just lack the dmg potential or the tankiness in heresy

[heady bramble]

@lusty wave BB baby

[long wharf]

you hope and pray your teammates take care of them

[lusty wave]

Bruh

[night marten]

only 60?

[woven crow]

Vermintide baby. Just don't get hit. Let the team go in whilst you run and stun

[lusty wave]

That is so lame lmfao

[muted wyvern]

Well, it’s nice to know they’re not intentionally sabotaging us, it’s just accidental sabotage.

[tight saddle]

What's your weapon loadout? This game series is all about your loadout having strengths and weakness, you use your strengths to cover your allies weaknesses and they should use their strengths to cover your weakness. Not every weapon loadout can handle everything well, it can either specialize in something very well or be versatile and not excel at it all.

[teal needle]

You can back up purg with a deflector force sword.

Not that I'm a purg advocate

[night marten]

I am

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/577c137a07e20967703e196a1076f370
yooooo

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle my current load out is surge staff and douling sword. I can carry on malice, but on heresy I'm quite useless

[night marten]

it's good ( ) and fun

[long wharf]

you aren't playing right if you feel useless on heresy with surge

[rotund crystal]

aight let me dodge the muty, the dogs, the flames, the spicier flames, the shotguns, the lasguns, the faster lasguns, the long range lasguns, the big boi, the big armored boi, the big and armed boi and the fodder

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle although sometimes I struggle with hordes with my surge staff and that's when I get frustrated

[long wharf]

the surge staff isn't for fighting hordes

[woven crow]

This but unironically

[leaden pier]

pretty decent force sword ngl

[rotund crystal]

Fun yeah, good ?

[frigid zenith]

How in the f do you struggle with hordes with a surge staff?

[stoic raft]

How does that blessing work ?

[lusty wave]

@long wharf I know

[burnt python]

better than 99% of us have

[rotund crystal]

I have much to learn

[teal needle]

Yeah if there's a horde you might be about to take out a dozen at range with surge primary but you need horde clearing melee

[leaden pier]

ey my only fs with deflect

[lusty wave]

@frigid zenith surge staff only hits 5 enemies, you can't co troll a horde with that

[tight saddle]

You can use the mobility from dueling sword to move from cover to cover using the slide boost tech avoiding shots to get within range of shooters and make use of surge staff ignoring cover to zap shooters, especially using the instant cast tech on surge staff.

[fading shoal]

https://i.imgur.com/cBqjRJb.jpg

😛

[leaden pier]

swag

[burnt python]

slide boost gone lol

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle the slide tech was nerfed. You can't do that anymore in the new patch

[woven crow]

Duelling sword has been pretty good for hordes which I didn't expect.

[frigid zenith]

Just spamming surge isn't the way. Stagger the front line then murder them in melee, rinse repeat.

[tight saddle]

Completely or just nerfed?

[burnt python]

gone gone

[frigid zenith]

Positioning is key.

[burnt python]

same as just sliding

[woven crow]

Nope. Spam, then overheat, then melee to cool down the stunned horde, then slip back and repeat.

[graceful steppe]

keep in mind the surge staff does like 4.5x more damage to armored enemies than unarmored. spamming it into a poxwalker horde isn't great.
best you can do vs a horde with that loadout is swing the dueling sword to hold them off and stick with the team and hope someone else has better horde clear.

[rotund crystal]

oh yeah the piercing is just 🤌

[lusty wave]

@frigid zenith you can't animation cancel with the surge which was the whole point of me using the surge staff lmao

[leaden pier]

should i grab this from melks?

[lusty wave]

@graceful steppe does psyker have a good horde clearing melee?

[tight saddle]

What the fuck, I assumed it was just a nerf, not outright removing it. I wasn't using weapons with that tech after the patch so I didn't know.

[subtle linden]

I usually just block attack on my mk5 axe for horse

Horde

[frigid zenith]

I never used the animation cancle nonsense with surge.

[lusty wave]

@frigid zenith I see

[woven crow]

weakest of the classes, but has serviceable options

[lusty wave]

God damn

[ebon jolt]

Yes. Then roll carapace perk to +% flak damage.

[analog juniper]

@lusty wave if you are having trouble change up your play style or weapons. Force Sword with peril block and deflection is great. Void strike and Purgatus are good too.

[rotund crystal]

TFW you grinded the worst class because of a funny german accent

[frigid zenith]

Each situation can be a little different but in general. Stagger then murder. Sometime you have the space to spam first them F then melee, sometimes you don't.

[lusty wave]

@analog juniper I have a force sword with the deflector perk, but how do you play purgatory on heresy??

[graceful steppe]

I wish. I've mainly used the dueling sword and force sword since 30. I also mainly use the dueling sword which feels like it does just enough to keep me from dying, but the mobility keeps me from getting trapped in a bad corner

[woven crow]

Fatshark - "A glass cannon, but instead of a cannon, it's just an old man"

[leaden pier]

or woman

perhaps not old too

[analog juniper]

Look for choke points, if surrounded, spray 180 to stagger and move if you can

[frigid zenith]

Where you are in relation to the team is also important. You shouldn't really be soloing hordes anyways with surge.

[tight saddle]

A popular recommendation that's beginner friendly is the Antax MKV Combat Axe with the Blessing that ignores enemy mass on weak spot kill using the Kinetic Deflection feat. This let's you block forever while spamming Push Attack to clear Horde decently while being extremely safe.

[lusty wave]

I seee

[low tulip]

did they ever acknowledge the dueling sword "nerf" being a bug or is it just.... as it's supposed to be?

[rotund crystal]

Crazy old man at that

[graceful steppe]

Force sword is great defensively and nice vs strong elites, but doesn't kill dense a horde quickly

[dense cloud]

is thisx a troll ?

lighting dont weackspot does it ?

[graceful steppe]

lol, i got the same perk on my best Surge and was thinking the same thing

[leaden pier]

you can hit weakspot with primary

[glad glade]

Hey guys, how important is crit on surge staff? Is it worth to buy it from the requisitorium?

[long wharf]

don't waste your time optimizing a surge staff to make the primary useful

[woven crow]

I'd be curious what people usually die to though I'm sure hordes are more dangerous than elites. Even when mixed if you can kill the hordes your fine. The elites are pretty weak

[tight saddle]

It's very fun to do on top of being extremely effective.

[woven crow]

Sorry this is somewhere already I'm sure but how?

[analog juniper]

If you want to kill things, it's quite important especially with high dmg. Still doesn't feel powerful but it's the best it can do.

[dense cloud]

lol ?

[analog juniper]

I've got a Surge with 76 dmg 76 crit, and it seems to kill slightly better

[tight saddle]

Tap W+Sprint after releasing the rmb charge while you start to shoot lightning. You can keep doing this infinitely even at 100% peril.

[long wharf]

you used to be able to

can you post patch?

[glad glade]

Damn, but thanks for your insight

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle to bad they fixed it and you can't do that anymore

[tight saddle]

I thought they nerfed quell cancels not the animation cancel?

[errant stream]

They fix It with the update i believe

[orchid nest]

you can still weapon swap anim cancel with surge to get the damage tick immediately but yeah the infinite is gone as far as I could tell

[nocturne palm]

how tf do you complete pick n mix

[tight saddle]

Jfc

[violet fossil]

What's the census on dueling swords, should I go for Mk. II or V? Or is it an either or situation

[tight saddle]

Time to live in the meat grinder again

[lusty wave]

@tight saddle no psyker got it really bad this patch. You can't tech anymore, surge animation cancel is fixed, and when you go to 100 peril 2 times you get locked the second time for awhile at 100

[bleak sonnet]

neither theyre nerfed

[violet fossil]

how so?

[graceful steppe]

for reference on a weaker crit bonus. to compare how much of an effect that stat has

[wanton cove]

wtf?? i havnt been able to read patch notes yet

i was hoping for some improvements ;-;

I did hear sith staff is TRASH for the eyes. And I already have -1000 vision so guess thats out 🙄

[graceful steppe]

I like the Mk V. the overhead heavies are easier to land imo

[lusty wave]

@wanton cove nope, also supposedly they buffed the aoe explosion on the force sword, but it's just a VFX animation change

[errant stream]

They nuked him with nerfs lol

[wanton cove]

Wtf...talk about not "reading the room"...

we were already on the bottom 😦

whats after rock bottom? xD

[analog juniper]

The underworld?

[errant stream]

Well now things will just be more frustrating

[supple skiff]

tzeentch wouldn't nerf us this hard

[graceful steppe]

took me like a week of heresy games just waiting for the right moment. every time i walk into a room i'm doing a headcount of shotgunners/gunners

[wanton cove]

Tzeentch would give us all da power!

[supple skiff]

loner personality sounds like he's on the fence of joining the ruinous powers anyways

[lusty wave]

The devs are being lore accurate by hating osyker as well

[analog juniper]

Meh, Psyker is still about as playable as it was before the nerfs

[lusty wave]

Nobody loves us :((

[analog juniper]

The class should be better, but it just isn't yet.

[lusty wave]

@analog juniper it's not that the psyker isn't playable, it's just that we have to work twice as hard and that sucks

[graceful steppe]

the only thing really messing with me is the wild surge staff charge animation making the whole screen wavy

[wanton cove]

Sucks. I am such a sorcerer player at heart. In almost all of my games. They making it tough lately

[errant stream]

I disagree, i found the surge staff unusable now.

[manic halo]

hello psyler players

are we having a good day

[errant stream]

It makes me vomit

[analog juniper]

Perils of the warp

[wanton cove]

Our day is as bad as that sentence D:

[violet fossil]

I've been feeling the same thing, but the light attack pattern of mk. II is really nice for hordes, so I'm leaning towards that too.

[errant stream]

Literally

[manic halo]

sorry my pet warp deamon walked over my keyboard

[dense cloud]

when cna oyu roal t4 perkls ?

[wanton cove]

[analog juniper]

Functionally it's the same, just visually gives you warp glaucoma or epileptic seizures

[dense cloud]

at what rating ort is it llvl bound ?

[lime gorge]

Guys I'm on a roll D:

[errant stream]

Exactly

[supple skiff]

the hoops we have to jump throught just to compete, second we get anything approaching what the veteran has, itl be deemed overtuned when we overperform

[graceful steppe]

I've seen screenshots of people with t4 blessings. they usually came from Melk. No idea what level they were

[supple skiff]

I have a level 20 vet and it is so easy in comparison

[violet fossil]

t4 perks can also be rolled at Hadron, I got one on my purgatus staff

[tulip drum]

IMO mk V is the best defensive weapon in the game...kinda like rapier in VT2. The defend stat + mobility stat gives INSANE dodge stats

[supple skiff]

deleting specials left in right constantly as the lowest level player in the party

[tulip drum]

my dodge is like 15% lol

[trail garnet]

Bruh they changed the skip the intro animation to "Hold spacebar" are u actually joking, what was wrong with Esc?

[violet fossil]

hahaaaaa, i wish my roll had good defense

currently sitting at 26% LOL

[graceful steppe]

ah perks. mb I read it as blessings.
I also had a mix of t3 and t4 perks when I spam rolled some items

[tulip drum]

i have a decent roll gray force sword that Im considering consecrating, but I can't do it lol

[trail garnet]

Its a great cinematic i just dont wanna watch it every time i log in

[tulip drum]

the mobility is so much worse lol

[violet fossil]

I'm in the same boat lol

[dense cloud]

this any good ?:D

[tulip drum]

you can disable the intro video in settings now

[dense cloud]

blessiubngs ? 😄

[trail garnet]

ooooh ty this will be nice

[violet fossil]

damage is a bit low but otherwise not bad

[tulip drum]

what's the dodge distance on that force sword lol

[violet fossil]

sec, lemme run to the meat grinder

[tulip drum]

great rolls on everything else though!!!

[dense cloud]

oki tnx 😄

noof to lvl 30 😄

5 more lvls :FD

[violet fossil]

you got this!

ight, i dont have recording software so im just gonna take two screenshots, one after a standing back dodge

starting pos

end

maybe about 2-3 meters

[woven crow]

Imagine if palpatine had epilepsy. Would have been mad funny

[dense cloud]

lol this is retared oyu cant rol t4 exp on lvl rating bae curios or mbay its lvl based idk but thats fuckeding stupioed if you are max lvl asnd othe only can you get 10% exp lool

[cyan notch]

wtf am i reading

[violet fossil]

oh wait I DO have recording software, one sec.

ignore the jump at the end, jump is bound to alt lol

[sharp ibex]

Slow down

[violet fossil]

dlss moment

[wanton cove]

The final testing dev was probably blind at the point he approved it xD

[dense cloud]

mbad had a bit f rage there Xd lol

[wanton cove]

Burnt out mans retinas

[shell radish]

Sibling I cannot see

[severe folio]

so update rolled out

gimme a summary on psyker changes

[severe folio]

oh

[fresh reef]

force sword vfx is prettier now

[severe folio]

what about numbers

[fresh reef]

there's a bug that if you consecutively go over 100 peril it locks you out of manual venting for a few seconds

and surge staff is now unusable due to its new vfx

[severe folio]

venting ?

[violet fossil]

quelling

[fresh reef]