psyker-class

[random wolf]

Brutal Momentum allows cleaving hordes

[winter forge]

guess i don't know lol

[random wolf]

There's no "best weapon" lol

[runic hornet]

tbh antax push attack is cracked

[brisk panther]

mobility? single target dmg? horde clear? attack pattern?

[runic hornet]

I'm not sure it has a hitmass that is reasonable

[sick kindle]

If psyker had a peril-charged crouch-to-invis talent then no one would give a flying crap about an anti-shooter psyker.

[frigid zenith]

Surge = total CC, use to carry teams / Purg = a little CC, good bit more DPS, use if your team isn't derps / Void = send heretics into orbit, if your team has good positioning and there are others that can stagger armored baddies go for this.

[runic hornet]

even when I drag it around I've never seen it get stuck

Surge can't carry

not even close

[frigid zenith]

My own experience begs to differ sir.

[runic hornet]

if your pugs can't clear horde you will be a VERY unhappy camper with surge

[frigid zenith]

since I have done it your statement is false.

[clear heath]

Surge can babysit a mediocre team pretty well

[pure rapids]

Surge can carry okay teams but can't carry shit teams

then again what can carry shit teams

[runic hornet]

surge is good for players who have the basics down but struggle with high-stress moments like disablers and ragers

[clear heath]

can also solo clutch more safely if they all die somehow

[runic hornet]

It's time to reveal my secret weapno

Trauma

[winter forge]

do you guys run 1 or 2 + wound curios for damnation?

[runic hornet]

Trauma is the staff that actually does everything

[runic hornet]

just 1
2 wound curios is giving up too much toughness

[ionic island]

Someone tried to say incel is a slur in genchat how is this place real

[runic hornet]

At least on psyker

[frigid zenith]

I wold use trama if the range was a bit longer.

[runic hornet]

I use 2 wounds on zealot, sometimes, but that's because zealot has a "push F for instat toughness and get ouf of jail free"

[pure rapids]

maybe when they fix trauma i'll play around with it

[runic hornet]

trauma doesn't need to be fixed

[sick kindle]

It just feels like classes in this game are one-tricks built for one thing and unable to handle other scenarios. Well-rounded builds that can handle every scenario competently per class just simply do not exist. If you take surge, you lose horde, if you take purge/void, you lose anti armor.

[runic hornet]

it onehits helmet dregs

[pure rapids]

the bugged damage for that much peril leaves much to be desired

[runic hornet]

it's worth the peril

[pure rapids]

it's actually bugged rn

it's supposed to deal more dmg

[runic hornet]

Yeah, i know, it doesn't deal the listed table damage

if it dealt htelisted table damage it'd be utterly cracked

but it's fine

[brisk panther]

why i think dueling sword is bis is (1) fast attack speed both normal and heavy attack to pewpew down single trash mobs or elites (2) movement speed with dodge and heavy attack slide. this makes you being able to reposition to different cover extremely quickly and also able to catch up with your team when you have been casting. (3) decent horde clear

on my build with surge or voidstrike im looking for a melee weapon with the highest possible mobility. it fits my quite aggressive playstyle built around having high awareness and (certain) elite focus. i mostly play on damnation and sometimes heresy

[runic hornet]

you can onehit helmet dregs, aka the biggest trash mobs in the game with 450 hp

that's fine

[sly thunder]

looks at Vet

[runic hornet]

I'll concede that if your trauma isn't 80-80-80 damage/blast/charge rate, and preferably also 80 quellspeed

you are going to have a bad time

but the last 5-10% of each of those bars makes a marked difference

[sick kindle]

Make veterans out of all classses is where I'm going with that.

[clear heath]

I mean, you can still melee for poxwalker hordes.
Sure it's not great. You'll never be as strong as a vet with a power sword at it, but it works

[sick kindle]

Classes PAINFULLY need more flexibility

[runic hornet]

80 damage lets you onehit helmet dregs
80 blast gives you a radius that is now just about rumbler's, except you deal 450 damage instead of only 200-300
80 charge rate means it comes out in 1.3 seconds, which is SUPER fast

[brisk panther]

on high difficulty you ideally make your char be really good at one thing so your squad is 4 specialized players for their role

[sick kindle]

Yes, I'm aware that's how it's designed. However that makes for much, much less variety in building

[brisk panther]

yep

[runic hornet]

you trauma "two and a half times", then you either active quell while standing on top of a box or in cover, or you go in with your claw/antax to mop up the guys whoa are getting up off of the floor

[cyan notch]

gotta wait for more subclasses ig

[runic hornet]

hard disagree tbh

[brisk panther]

you can also go 4 solo build players and play around eachother but its way less efficient

[runic hornet]

that just builds the team for critical failure the moment one guy dies

though that being said, the alternative is "four vets with power swords"

[sly thunder]

Yeah I agree. Just pointing out that you stated all classes are onetricks when Vet is out here doing horde clear, elite killing, special killing, boss DPS, and some CC with its Grenade. X.x

[sick kindle]

Like what the hell is the point of these mythical 70+ weapons if the majority of them will never see use because their design ethos contradicts against trying out sidegrades?

[brisk panther]

thats a good point. but you never want to make that only 1 dude can do 1 role. ofc they need to overlap even tho its ok for the flamethrower to be best at horde clear by far

[fading shoal]

By default, is there a way for BB to fast charge? Saw a pick n mix video with a player quickly charging up BB after switching from their voidstrike staff.

https://youtu.be/u3-y7zN7phc

[tight saddle]

if we're talking about premade groups with good players you can bring less specialized loadouts and synergize with other loadouts that also have some overlap with your strengths, you can still do non-super specific specialized builds if the group is aware of it and making movements/decisions based on that

[clear heath]

I think psyker currently has more variety with the staves at least.
Look at zealot. If they take anything other than a flamer, they're just a worse vet but with a slightly better grenade

[runic hornet]

30-3 talent speeds up BBs after you ult

IMO that speed should be baseline for BB, lol

[cyan notch]

nah

thats a bit too good

[runic hornet]

autogun zealot is legit because you can do this

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/L7L3JtYtjGlCQ/d1337OaxtJs9?invite=cr-MSx5encsNDg2MDU3NTUs

and you still have an autogun for all your autogun needs

fast, flexible, doesn't take 3 seconds to draw and devour your ammo just to kill a few riflemen

[fading shoal]

Didn't know my ultimate ability affects BB charge rate. ty

[pure rapids]

still though is that intended?

[tight saddle]

"I believe making BB good/better is difficult to balance because of our access to infinite ammo spammable staffs that have good utility. Giving us too much power with BB on top of that utility will be ridiculous if not done properly, but I do want BB to get buffed I just don't have a solution. I don't envy the balance devs in charge of trying to figure that puzzle out."

[brisk panther]

if you dont use 2h hammer to bonk these guys in a fraction of the time as zealot, youre doing it wrong 😉

[runic hornet]

No, but it's how the game works right now
Same as FS lawnmower
Same as quell cancels
Same as trauma doing not as much damage

[ebon jolt]

Probably not. Zealot ability currently gives 100% armor pen to any weapon on use. Including guns. Making it dope. (At least I’m pretty sure that’s how it works…)

[runic hornet]

between the chargeup time of the hammer and actually swinging the heavy, much less making sure you're in melee with the crusher, it's honestly comparable

you can hit F and shoot the crusehr to death from any distance, easy as

[fading shoal]

My brain skipped the Psykinetic Wrath part and saw, " For 10 seconds... your BB charges 25% faster and consume 50% less peril." when I unlocked that feat

[brisk panther]

im assuming that the squad have a surge staff that knows what they are doing 🙂

[clear heath]

I actually have no idea. The description of the skill doesn't say anything about doing this. Iirc it only mentions rushing forward and making the next melee hit stronger

[brisk panther]

if you use autogun over flamer you're trolling

[pure rapids]

yea that's what I'm worried about

people using exploits

[runic hornet]

Doesn't affect the dps of what gets used. TH has a charge animation and you have to siwng it and you have to phsyically walk up to it, if it's buried in trash that might eat your TH swing then you have to be careful, and surge staff isn't going to stun every horde mob

[pure rapids]

then when FS fixes it

then they whine about it

[runic hornet]

counterpoint

Power sword existed for this long in its state

[clear heath]

Hopefully they just pretend this is a feature and update the description to match

[cyan notch]

abuse it while you can

[clear heath]

it's a neat interaction that isn't really broken anyways

[brisk panther]

if its buried in trash its not a problem or priority yet :p

[clear heath]

Like no one is out there saying zealot with an autogun is too strong

[tight saddle]

F + autogun on Zealot is silly making it much more usable than it normally is

[runic hornet]

it's a priority because if it gets to melee still buried in trash it gets a lot harder to dodge its overheads

and it literally physically blocks sightlines so you get netted or dogged or even burstered through them

keeping living crushers around is raising the risk

if you can delete it as easily as shooting an autogun at it, it's worth it

why do you think people bolter magdump them

but this is cool because now you can have an autogun INSTEAD of a bolter

[weary wasp]

Do you really need a flamer when there is three of those for every other weapon?

[runic hornet]

meaning you respond to the situation faster and don't rip through your ammo supply killing basic riflemen

[brisk panther]

imo not the zealots job with current meta weapons. mauler will just get zapped and instantkilled before he can do anything, when its time to take him down. its situational aswell

[clear heath]

It's a neat trick but
Still weaker than a vet with power sword and bolter doing the same job

[pine iris]

autogun giving more damage because the zealot is enraged is lore compliant. Faith matters in 40K world

[runic hornet]

even bolter vet struggles with ammo versus rifles

[pure rapids]

if only that faith worked for Cadia eh?

[pine iris]

red ork vehicles go faster because they believe they do

[runic hornet]

it's a noticeable problem

[weary wasp]

Projectile weapons ignore armor during zealot's ult effect

[runic hornet]

power sword's busted though

[sick kindle]

That's precisely what has me unsatisfied with the game. The 'not my job' and 'i cant do that with my build' parts of classes. The only job a class should have is clearing the mission and the players should be given the tools as to how that should be accomplished. Versatility is the word of the day.

[runic hornet]

tbh I always play with a balanced loadout

and I do just fine in premades

No one is forcing you to hyperspecialize and I maintain that hyperspecialization is a literal crutch

[weary wasp]

I'm getting the vibe that 'class job' crowd never touched vermintide

[tight saddle]

you literally got mad at me for saying that before

[clear heath]

Honestly a nerf to power sword (which they're doing) and maybe a 50 toughness buff to everyone else would help stop vet from stealing everyone's jobs.
200 vs 100 toughness is such a huge difference

[runic hornet]

In VT2 even on cata, playing a "hyperspecialized" build was seen as a massive flaw and a crutch for players who couldn't hack it with a well-rounded one

[pine iris]

eh most builds are versatile with weak points VS being overly tuned to do one thing

[clear heath]

Who thought vet having double toughness was ok?

[runic hornet]

the only time you needed "1 player per role" was on super mega ultra modded difficulty

[sick kindle]

I was very much spoiled with how much raw utility every single spec and class had in that game. Almost every single specilization could be made in a way where every situation could be mitigated and handled accordingly.

[runic hornet]

because on that difficulty if you lost one player you got hopelessly drowned in spawns anyway

so you were better off hyperspecializing

darktide isn't even close to super mega ultra modded difficulty, with good reason

[weary wasp]

You better learn from it then

[shut thorn]

lmao is the patch even coming today

[runic hornet]

even on damnation hi intensity you can recover with 1-2 people dead

[shut thorn]

its only a few hours until offfice closes

[tight saddle]

Balista blocked me (supposedly) for saying things he's saying now when he was arguing with me, but he's now happily repeating it lmfao

[runic hornet]

solo clutching is a lot more unlikely though

[brisk panther]

this is a different game 🤷‍♂️ i played more balanced builds in vt

[runic hornet]

if only beacuse classes in this game don't have as much mobility/revive cheese

and you get shot to death

[weary wasp]

Also no temp hp immortality

[runic hornet]

Like, solo clutching with revives with the whole map pulled is possible in VT2 because you can do shit like CC ult while mid-revive

[severe folio]

i like how everyone just ignore the guy completely when he explain his trauma staff damage and how it doesnt need to be fixed

[clear heath]

well that and coherency
Team play is much more useful here

[cyan notch]

i want temp ho

[brisk panther]

i try to make sure that one of my weapons is* at least decent at horde clear and the other at elites. you can still specialize*. theres a spectra, not binary specialization

[runic hornet]

team play is a lot more necessary right now because of fucking dogs goddamn it

[clear heath]

In darktide your team regens and buffs you
In vermintide your team kills you
Easy to see why having your team alive in this game matters more

[grizzled iris]

Trauma staff is good as it is, just reduce the Warp build up a little and it goes up to A tier in an instant

[runic hornet]

But baiting overheads onto teammates is so much fun

I'm actually sad you can't seem to do that in this game

[copper plank]

Good afternoon witch family 🥰

[runic hornet]

I don't know how mauler/crusher overheads are coded but I can't hit my own teammates with them

[sick kindle]

That's a funny way of saying actively nerfs you if you aren't within an arbitrary distance of eachother. It's not just a buff, you will have zero toughness reduction and regeneration without coherency.

Team co-depence is not the same as teamwork

[clear heath]

You can look at it that way sure. Either way, soloing is a lot harder

[runic hornet]

psyker with quelling or veteran does just fine in a vacuum
Ogyrn sustains infinitely just by juggling a couple of mobs

Ironically i find it's zealot that is most limited

[grizzled iris]

Conclusions have been made until the patch comming up later today.
Until I've made research and gameplay tests on the updates to the Force Sword Special I've come to the conclusion that the only
viable melee weapons for Psyker in its current state are.
Antax MK V Combat Axe S Tier
Catachan MK IV "Devil's Claw" Sword A+ Tier
Maccabian MK V Dueling Sword A Tier

Force Staves will still be in their normal Damnation status as follows.
Nomanus MK VI Surge Force Staff S Tier
Equinox MK IV Voidstrike Force Staff A- Tier
Rifthaven MK II Purgatus Force Staff B+ Tier
Equinox MK III Trauma Force Staff B Tier

Stay safe Warp Abusers

[runic hornet]

zealot's regen talent needs 3 mobs nearby

[weary wasp]

Good old days of taking 300 friendly fire from quickbow wutelgi

[bold flint]

this is one of the guns ever

[runic hornet]

huh, you rate mk4 claw over mk1?

I hate the mk4

[tight saddle]

that's what frustrates me as well with Darktide, coherency doesn't promote teamwork, it just punishes someone when you get a little out of range

[runic hornet]

overhead pushattack is cringe

and you don't need the strikedown heavy as a psyker

[sick kindle]

In Darktide your team gets so much more crippled when someone gets downed simply because of the absolute lack of well-balanced fighters. 'Oh shit the CC guy went down from a Crusher. That's a wipe guys. GG. No one else has tools that can anti-armor. Better dance around and hope he doesn't die'

[runic hornet]

your staff and BB can cover that

[sick kindle]

It doesn't make it 'harder' it makes it more tedious

[runic hornet]

That's not a game problem, that's a community problem

[brisk panther]

and what are these conclusions based on?

[light carbon]

Most teams run 3 frontline 1 backline or 2/2
You can also clutch just fine in modded difficulties, although it is a lot harder by design

[grizzled iris]

So, you don't want to be able to Surge quick charge and Heavy to kill a dog in 1 quick combo?

Or Surge a mutant into 3 quick heavys for a kill?

You rather just have 2 horde clearing heavys?

[runic hornet]

Is the breakpoint that pronounced?

I didn't think heavy1 from the mk4 claw fucking instakilled a hound

[weary wasp]

I thought most teams are pug randos

[runic hornet]

that doesn't seem right at all

[grizzled iris]

It does

Atleast on Heresy, can check for damnation as well

[clear heath]

tbh i don't even care about hounds if i'm running surge. No one gets bitten for very long when you have it.
If you're running other staves ig it makes sense

[tight saddle]

ah usually these topics are Damnation only taken into consideration

[runic hornet]

on damnation I kind of felt like you weren't going to be able to solo-meet any "dps check" for killing a hound that fast or soloing a mutant

so I felt more comfortable with a sword that deals with hordes, aka the surge's weakness

[grizzled iris]

I will go into testing

[runic hornet]

sure the strikedown heavy does more single target damage, especially to dog/mutie

that's completely objective truth

I just didn't feel it was THAT valuable

[grizzled iris]

But having 2 Vanguard heavys is?

[weary wasp]

Doesn't hound take increased melee damage?

[sick kindle]

Find me a game where the dependence of someone else on your own personal stats is fun. Shit doesn't work. Teams aren't hiveminds, they're individuals. It's crippling and bapping down more skilled players. You literally cannot 'carry' people. If the weakest link in your chain is too weak, then that's GGs and it's time to leave the lobby and find someone who knows how to prog damnation.

[grizzled iris]

So you can heavy heavy instead of light heavy light heavy?

[runic hornet]

usually I found what was happening is that I shock a dog, it goes flying to narnia, so I BB it while it skitters off into the sunset

the opportunity of shock dog->melee it was a lot rarer

[glacial abyss]

True you can’t do damnation without everyone being top tier

[runic hornet]

and a much better pushattack

[grizzled iris]

So, you CC yourself by going for a brain burst leaving the dog to run around?

[cyan notch]

i never had a problem surging then just meleeing a dog

[runic hornet]

after you shock a dog it almost never goes straight for a pounce

CC myself... I mean, if you want to call "doing damage to the dog" "CCing yourself", okay

[grizzled iris]

The Push attack on MK I is nice indeed, but it isn't really needed. Unless you're in a choke and need to do push attacks

[runic hornet]

espeically if you, say, shocked the dog at a disatnce, or at a ledge

and running to melee the dog would put you completely out of position

or the dog was coming through scattered horde

so you shocked it all

[clear heath]

I mean, it's fair if you don't like it, but it's nice to have a difficulty tuned for having a group of friends coordinate and have different roles.
Sure it sucks for solo queue, but not everything needs to be designed for it. Some people want to tryhard with friends

[stark snow]

If you’re cc’ing yourself bbing a dog then you’re cc’ing yourself meleeing then too. Just a matter of which will get you a quicker/cleaner kill in the moment

[severe folio]

he mean to keep shocking the dog

and let someone else kill it

or just keep shocking it till it dead

[cyan notch]

sure there are situations where you might want to surge then bb for chip damage but most of the time its easier to just melee it

[runic hornet]

BB is chip damage?

[tight saddle]

The biggest issue with tryharding with friends is that it makes Damnation too easy since there's no higher difficulty like modded VT2 had

[cyan notch]

you dont even kill the dog in one surge + bb on damnation so its just gonna run around anyway

[grizzled iris]

@runic hornet with my suboptimal MK IV with 69% dmg it does 93% of the pox dogs HP in dmg with just the heavy alone

[runic hornet]

Sure surge+BB won't kill dog all by itself on damnation

[runic hornet]

hot damn, I underestimated the mk4's damage then

[cyan notch]

surge + melee make sure it dies surge + bb it will live and run around

[runic hornet]

throw in a single light I guess

[clear heath]

Dogs seem to take much more damage from melee than anything else. If you're running surge, better to shock and melee it or wait for someone else to melee if you're too far

[grizzled iris]

1 hit did 1543 dmg on head hit

[stark snow]

They take 2x damage from melee

[runic hornet]

the situation I'm more concerned about is when it's not safe to chase the dog after it stumbles off

Sure if it's meleeable do it

but usually if you melee a dog it's going to die

[grizzled iris]

Fully charged Surge does only 101 dmg to a Pox Dog, same as if you just quick charge it

[cyan notch]

thats what i said

[glacial abyss]

Canis puellam mordat

[sick kindle]

I still hold that Darktide was made specifically to be this way because the developers saw 'CATA SOLO TWITCH MODE' as a fundamental problem with VT2 and fluffed up specialized builds and mandatory team comps and 'you can never build outside this box' mentality with classes as necessary.

[runic hornet]

And the question was, "is it worth taking mk4 strikedown purely to do more effective damage to the dog, over mk1"

[glacial abyss]

Very true

[quasi junco]

Think us Psykers will get a peril reduction speed increase on the new assault mode? I mean giving out extra ammo for others…..

[glacial abyss]

No

[runic hornet]

Like I find if it's safe to shock->melee a dog

[stark snow]

Hahahhahahahaha

[runic hornet]

I'm fine with just chasing the dog around with lights, even

[grizzled iris]

Damnation Mutant takes 5x Heavys to kill with MK IV Non Headshots

[runic hornet]

it'll keep flopping around and then it'll die

[glacial abyss]

Your benefit is not needing ammo you should be happy with the stability of being a warp user

[pine iris]

stand behind a barrel object when the dog is coming. works much better than trying to dodge. they try to go around it and you can melee them

[runic hornet]

yeah, see, that was my logic
I'm not killing a mutie by myself before it goes somewhere else

[clear heath]

If you're running surge, dogs are kinda whatever anyways.
If you shock them, they seem to run away and not bite for a while

[quasi junco]

Well my Purgatus staff doesn’t generate too much peril.

[runic hornet]

is more damage on am utie always better? well, yes

[quasi junco]

Purgatus staff light attack stops hounds instantly

[grizzled iris]

1x Heavy From MK IV kills Sniper, Flamer, Bomber in 1 hit, 2x for trapper

[runic hornet]

But I consciously rate that as less important than having ironclad tools for dealing with surge staff's weakness, hordes

light heavy is good but I abhor the push->any attack that is NOT a pushattack mechanism in this game

[grizzled iris]

And dealing with those is Spam push attack with MK I?

[pine iris]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zm41hk/in_preparation_for_tomorrows_update_introducing/ "dog tech"

[grizzled iris]

Instead of just doing Light>Heavy combos with MK IV?

[runic hornet]

mk4 claw gets stuck in hordes or fails to stagger because lights through flak armor

I don't like that

I like being able to use the consistent heavy loop of mk1

drag that like 270 degrees

spin around like a madman

and if all my spinning has disoriented me and I hear a backstab noise, I push it and then drag the pushattack without breaking my stride

You can say "skill issue" for finding the push->light attack->heavy attack to be too awkward

[cyan notch]

pretty useful ty

[runic hornet]

But I just really fucking hate how this game has a weirdass delay when you try to go from push into regular combos again

[tight saddle]

reminder that surge can create artificial funnels against hordes by CCing 2 of the 3 sections of a horde creating more breathing room for your team when dealing with a horde + elites/specials. This can be done between CCing elites/specials with the canceling tech when your teammates with horde clear are in a situation where they can't comfortably clear the horde.

[cyan notch]

i doubt any one is doing that in quickplay tbh

[tight saddle]

definitely rare for others to do, but if you're the one using surge it can be useful given the right circumstances

[cyan notch]

yea but u also have to do the spam

[runic hornet]

people need to embrace the power

of the almighty box

going over and on top of and behind boxes drives -tide enemies nuts

[tight saddle]

it's not something you're supposed to do all the time, but it is a tool at your disposal when needed

[runic hornet]

Every time I see puggies magnetically attracted to the biggest, widest, most open spaces in a finale I die inside

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/M4UrQudWy1fcp/d1337Vd93zaV?invite=cr-MSx4QWIsNDg2MDU3NTUs

[grizzled iris]

@runic hornet Due to the only difference between all Devil's Claws is only moveset and nothing stat based, my conclusion is that you run either one that suits your playstyle the best. I prefer the MK IV, you pref the MK I, and most people pref the MK VII (For unknown reasons) and that is all up to the player.
I myself on damnation and Heresy run in to more situations where the MK IV is better off than the MK I and that is mainly because I run a support and area denial play style. But I also aim to deal with specials in crowded populations and for that purpose I prefer the MK IV.
In the end it all comes down to prefered usage.

[runic hornet]

yeah, I definitely agree mk4 is better at killing specials

i just find that if you are in a position to surge specials first and foremost, actually killing them can be another story, and I run into issues with mk4 combos against horde

because of the light

and the pushattack is less useful

[static wyvern]

Any tips on doin pick and mix ? It's the last penance I have left

[grizzled iris]

@runic hornet Aww man, I love the Trauma staff, but due to its shortcomings dealing with ranged enemies I can't see myself running it on Damnation. Heresy and Malice I can bring it out tho

[runic hornet]

Voidstrike is the only staff that's even close to good against ranged enemies

[cyan notch]

trauma is great if you have another surger

[runic hornet]

Surge... kills scab rifles

this is very true

[frigid marten]

litterally crowd control

[runic hornet]

But it only does so at close range too

[sacred lodge]

alright, fine, I'll wait for the patch; did 5 pops in 12 seconds, still didn't get the achievement

[grizzled iris]

Surge allows you to ball rush in create a moment of nullfire for your team to push in and close the gap.

[sacred lodge]

all specials

[runic hornet]

were they all different

or were there like 2 trappers/2 bombers

[sacred lodge]

they don't have to be different, when they say "unique" they mean "different mobs"

[grizzled iris]

This is my best usage of the Surge staff, I call my team to rush in while I rush and lightning the ranged mobs

[runic hornet]

I'm not sure about that, I was fairly certain they had to be 1-1-1-1-1

no repeats

[pure rapids]

don't have to be different

[runic hornet]

can't kill 3 shotgunners

[pure rapids]

I got mine by popping 5 shotgunners

[cyan notch]

no lol u can

[runic hornet]

for example

can you? lmao fuck

[cyan notch]

its just 5 elites/specials

[runic hornet]

That can't be right

I've BB'd 5 elites all the goddamned time

3 gunner+2 specials

[cyan notch]

probably too slow

[runic hornet]

4 shotgunner+something

[pure rapids]

another person I helped got it by popping a dog and 4 shotgunners

[grizzled iris]

Yea, but they need to all die within 12 seconds

[runic hornet]

I literally only got it whenI killed 5 unique things

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/LGotmSP9wSxko/d1337hnGEiTT?invite=cr-MSxsY2wsNDg2MDU3NTUs

[sacred lodge]

which I'm sure I did!

[pine iris]

it's called pick n mix. you can repeat lol

[grizzled iris]

So basicly you need to use 3 on 30 feat, and kill them all during that short time

[pure rapids]

then it's probably bugged then

[cyan notch]

yea its well documented you dont need different elites

[runic hornet]

I dunno man, it's penances

[pure rapids]

another person I tried to help couldn't get it

we tried for 4 hours

[cyan notch]

how often are 5 different elites and specials gonna appear and you having to kill all of them in one bb each within 12s

[runic hornet]

I thought the disconnect and reconnect for veteran 100% accuracy was fixed

a guy literally did it today

[pure rapids]

nope

[runic hornet]

in a quickplay lobby

FFS really

[pure rapids]

only the no melee hit was fixed

[runic hornet]

LMAO

[pure rapids]

but for the accuracy

because when you rejoin, the game resets your accuracy

so you rejoin and just land your last shot

bam 100% accuracy

[cyan notch]

yea ive seen quickplay teammates asking to wait for alt f4 at the end of a mission

like yesterday or day before

[grizzled iris]

I got my going out with a bang in quickplay I just yelled "LET ME BOOM!" The guys just said "FFS... don't do penances in quickplay you Ahole.." 1 sec later "I got it!" Him: "Oh damn... GZ!"

[weary wasp]

Rejoining is hard now in general

[cyan notch]

wdym hard

[runic hornet]

I mean, i figured that was asinine
In my experience I've never gotten pick and mix from dleeting whole shotgunner squads + specials

with 30-3 BBs

[weary wasp]

Game has a tendency for offer no rejoin option unless hard crash

[runic hornet]

and it took until the above video of actually killing 1-1-1-1-1 to get the penance

[cyan notch]

ive had reconnect every time i altf4'd but havent done it a lot

[runic hornet]

i've always successfully reconnected if I alt-f4'd, in my experience, but I have a friend who can have a graphics crash and literally never gets back into session

I'm just chalking it up to classic fatshark bugs

[pure rapids]

whelp we'll see what they're doing to "fix" it

[weary wasp]

It was consistent before. Maybe some anti cheese strat

[pure rapids]

since they specifically said the Pick n Mix penance

[grizzled iris]

If you Alt+F4 the game treats it as a "Disconnect" so it give you around 1min 30 sec to initiate the "Reconnect" during this 1 min 30 sec no one can fill that spot until the timer runs out

[cyan notch]

yea probably gonna clarify oh guys u dont need 5 different elites/specials

[runic hornet]

so is this just an SSD check? lol

[grizzled iris]

In a certain way yes? xD

[runic hornet]

that might be why my buddy never reconnects

because he's on a dinosaur-ass HDD

[cyan notch]

good thing you have to wait for the stupid crash uploader to finish

[runic hornet]

I can check 3 of my shops in the time it takes him to load back into the mourningstar after a mission

[grizzled iris]

Also, I did some testing with the MK I, and the push attack only penetrates 1 Flak armor target and proceeds to hit up to 2 more targets after that. The stagger only hits the first 2 targets not the third. So the only "Stagger" you get from push attack spam with MK I is from the Push it self and not that much from the Push Attack

The heavys go through mobs and flak armor tho, so that is nice

[runic hornet]

Fair, but melee scabs are usually not the majority of a horde, if I'm trying to pen 3+ melee scabs I'm in trouble to begin with
The dragging is more for the pesky poxwalkers

and again if you're going to knock the mk1 pushattack, knock the mk4's light attack in the light<->heavy combo

Because you're gonna using that a LOT more than the mk1 pushattack

[gray island]

What weapon should i get for my Veteran cosplay?

[runic hornet]

mg12, it's not even a question

mg12 is based

and the literal classic guard lasgun

[grizzled iris]

With the MK IV I like how I can Push Attack>Heavy>Light for a quick single target burst

[grizzled iris]

Gun 2 big for you

[sick kindle]

Just use the Antrax MK V. Seemple.

[gray island]

i got that too, but its just not Power Sword enough

[sick kindle]

God that's funny. Just roll up in pugs and when people go 'Psyker' just go '? wtf u talkin about willis I'm a guardsman'

[gray island]

got my zaelot build perfected

need deflector FS for ogren tho 😦

[sick kindle]

Nah. That needs an axe too

[tight saddle]

I still don't get why dueling sword is unique to psyker lol

[grizzled iris]

https://tenor.com/view/wow4-warcraft-orc-human-gif-20757172

[sick kindle]

To complete the look. No zealot has the tact to use a dueling sword

[gray island]

nah i slide dash out of coherency and die just like all the other zealots

[sick kindle]

I unironically would be play Veteran right now if they had it.

[gray island]

i do have the bleed knife for authenticity tho

[grizzled iris]

@runic hornet I went over on my Zealot and found that I have a MK IV with 80% dmg roll, without infected bonus it does 1342 DMG on Dog, with 20% it does 1610 with 25% it does 1677.
Pox Dogs have a total of 1700 HP on Damnation, if you have an MK IV with atleast 75% dmg roll and 20% infection dmg bonus it takes 1x Surge stun and 1x Heavy to eliminate a Pox Dog.
Mutant got 4000 HP on Damnation.
1x Heavy with MK IV does 743 dmg with 80% dmg roll.
That means you need 5x Heavys and 1x light to kill a Mutant with it
Or if you got an MK IV with 70-80% dmg roll and 20% Maniac dmg it requires only 5x Heavys or 4x Heavys and 1x Light to deal with a mutant.
or 3x Heavy weakspot hits with the MK IV to killa Mutant.
(You probably don't care about this anymore, but I wanted to test out the math either way. FOR SCIENCE!)

[gray island]

Chad math

just BB bulwark tho. or surge it out of sheild and let the vets take care of it

[runic hornet]

+infected mk4 being able to surge->heavy a dog instantly to death is pretty cool

i dunno, I just never figured the overhead did that much more damage to everything

[sick kindle]

Push light chain the dogs.

They stagger in all difficulties with a push

However, nothing is in a vacuum. Can't do that if you have other elite mixins putting pressure on you in which case keep surgin' or movin

[trim garnet]

hey so you know how force sword warp attack has a chance to proc flayer on each "tick" of damage? anyone have one with uncanny strike to test if it gives the rending stacks on each tick as well?

[grizzled iris]

If you push and chain light the dog, you will need 12x lights or 3x headshots and the dog will be thrown away out of melee range every light / push you do to it.
In other words, I heavily advocate not to do this unless in a corner
(Edit: 12x Lights not 8x)

[sick kindle]

In the words of a great dwarf. 'Dont bloody miss then, Grimgi'

[analog juniper]

you can get bleed on non-weakspot hit iirc

[grizzled iris]

Bleed dagger is only good imo if you are running with an Ogryn, or another Zealot running Crit Evi or Crit CS

[gray island]

yeah i'd actually roll for both if it wasn't on my psyker.

im so material starved right now i need to figure out the quick mat farm

[grizzled iris]

We've heard anything about when patch is coming today? standard 19:00? or another delay? xD

[nimble needle]

Mine's downloading right meow

[tight saddle]

a full bleed team is funny, because elites just randomly die between people blocking and dodging

[grizzled iris]

DM SALDIRBAY#0420 he is more knowledgeable about mats farming than I am

[gray island]

idk how i feel about unsolicited messaging, thanks for the callout tho

[runic hornet]

the problem is you'll end up running so far you'll end up getting shot by rifles you were trying to avoid or the rifles you aggroed earlier and are now pulling behind a corner

[sick kindle]

As I said, nothing is in a vacuum. However it is the better play to keep the dog from going anywhere and not missing when you try to hit it. Depends on the weapon, depends on the situation. I'm firmly on the hill that pushing is the best strategy to engage dealing with it if you are it's intended target. The hitbox at present is scuffed and will hit you anyway if you try to dodge.

Be that a push stab and two heavy chain or push lights

[grizzled iris]

No Surge to make it freeze in its current position and then hitting in the head once and be done with it isn't the best approach? But risking pushing it and then light spaming it 12 times is more safe? Good to know

[sick kindle]

Depends on the weapon, depends on the situation. Do you not read? You're assuming the staff at present is surge.

[grizzled iris]

I don't see why you'd run any other staff in damnation difficulty to begin with

[sick kindle]

Oh god, another meta slave. Ew.

[glacial abyss]

Unstoppable force vs immovable object

Dretch vs Durzur

[grizzled iris]

No, not a meta slave. To me as an individual it just seems ilogical to run anything other than Surge

[wicked jewel]

first one to post clip of new Force Sword Special gets entered in a Robux giveaway

[analog juniper]

Surge just isnt fun tbh. Useful for specials, but its boring

[glacial abyss]

Surge is fun

[summer prairie]

i'm not seeing any FS explosion after doing a special attack

[runic hornet]

stop surging hordes if you think it's boring, lol

I don't like void and purgatus staves much because you melee a lot less with those

I like surge and trauma because they incentivize killing horde with your melee weapon

and you only break them out when things are getting hairy

[summer prairie]

jesus the surge special effects are... distracting

it makes hard to see

[sick kindle]

Look, the only difference between surging a dog and pushing a dog is a distance of two meters and a fancy lightning effect. CCing it indefinitely is just delaying an inevitable pounce. It needs to die.

[summer prairie]

you can't cancel the animations anymore

at least not like you used to

[sick kindle]

Clearly you haven't played many other playstyles if you're baffled that there's other choices to use in Damnation

[primal aurora]

oh, patch is up?

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-18322698

[analog juniper]

If Surge was more like the Amprex from Warframe it would be nice. Low dmg, high crit with stun, it would be better. Have blessings for things like chains to more enemies, or enemies explode and stun in a radius, stuff like that

[supple skiff]

patch is out siblings

[true lake]

Surge I'm kind of meh on

[supple skiff]

and is 7 fucking gigs

[summer prairie]

sprint cancelling doesn't work at all and I don't think switching a weapon saves you from the peril explosion

[grizzled iris]

I don't find it boring at all, to me Voidstrike and Purgatust are boring

[true lake]

Like it does amazing stuns but it isn't really that good against huge hoards

And as a psyker I care a lot about horde management

[grizzled iris]

This guy is hilarious

[sick kindle]

I paid for 70 weapons in my video game and you can bet I'm going to use all of them.

[grizzled iris]

Please do, I'm doing the same thing

[primal aurora]

Primary attack with staves needs to be reworked somehow. It's very unreliable.

[analog juniper]

someone above said it "incentivises using melee" which is just a 9000 Kelvin take to me

[summer prairie]

no cancelling surge makes it even less fun to use

[grizzled iris]

no cancelling surge?

[true lake]

Maybe if the melee was better at dealing with hordes lmao

[grizzled iris]

You mean you can't cancel the animation or?

[summer prairie]

you can still qq the animation but no sprint cancel and I think even if you QQ, you explode at 100

[analog juniper]

speaking of melee, make the staff melee actually usable

[grizzled iris]

QQ?

[summer prairie]

QQ as in switching weapon

[analog juniper]

I dont want to poke a single groaner

[grizzled iris]

You can also tap R to cancel the animation?

[true lake]

I mean eh, all you are doing is kind of pushing them back with the staff, it's not really a replacement for anything

[analog juniper]

for 7 -50 dmg

[grizzled iris]

Like with all other staves

[weary wasp]

There are plenty good options as long as you know the kinks of the weapons

[true lake]

I use the force sword because of the OP push attack special it has

Not to mention deflector blessing

[supple skiff]

force sword attacks should be more cleave than they are

[weary wasp]

Push attack special?

[true lake]

It just needs more cleaves ye

[primal aurora]

could you explain to me how push attack is OP?

[weary wasp]

It has a ton on light 1 heavy 2 combo

[true lake]

Yeah it's push attack is so powerful it can fully knock over almost every special on to its ass

[sick kindle]

I use an MK IV rapier because I have a need. A need for speed. https://streamable.com/hqaiio

[true lake]

Or stagger bigger guys

[supple skiff]

alt fire is good, might be getting buffed this patchj, they said somethng about adding an explosion but that might just be cosmetic

[weary wasp]

Controlling a single guy doesn't make it op

[true lake]

Besides why would I need a huge perfect cleaving weapon if my force staff already handles that for me

[analog juniper]

I think he means OP as in good, not OP as in actually overpowered

[true lake]

Not all of my weapons need to do every role perfectly

[runic hornet]

how is that even remotely a hot take

surge sucks against unarmored/infested

so you pull out a good hordeclearer and get to work

[grizzled iris]

Man... that was painful to watch

[analog juniper]

Fatshark with the intro skip mix-up. It's now hold space to skip

[sick kindle]

How so?

[true lake]

Just hope we eventually get more variety with force melee eventually

[trim garnet]

i want my force claymore

[analog juniper]

that's not being incentivised to do something. Its needing to melee to make up for a deficiency

semantics, but theres a difference

[true lake]

Kinda stupid we get this force sword while vets get a fucking power sword that they can literally spam with no repercussions

[grizzled iris]

https://tenor.com/view/nagatoro-ijiranaide-noodles-please-don-uzaki-gif-21220114

[analog juniper]

PowerSword should generate heat like the plasma, so they can blow up, lol

[runic hornet]

fair enough, "incentivizes" was a tongue in cheek way to put "surge stafff is completely worthless"

[true lake]

Yeah like it's so broken the power sword lmao

[dapper void]

The new surge staff effect is neat

[true lake]

Surge staff ain't worthless it just is not a good horde clear

[sick kindle]

This reaction GIF means nothing to me.

[humble shell]

as if you get to pick which staff you use, and it isnt handed from the heavens as your once-weekly upgrade from the rng shop 😔

[weary wasp]

PS got fucked, soo

[sick kindle]

Use your words like a big boy. Come on.

[runic hornet]

did it?

[grizzled iris]

The GIF explains it all

[primal aurora]

what are the changes to FS?

[runic hornet]

it still cleaves a massive amount of targets, doesn't it?

[true lake]

That's like saying the purgatus is bad because it didn't kill a crusher in one fire blast

[supple skiff]

ps was nerfed, probably still good tho

[true lake]

Like duh it doesn't do that

[sturdy nymph]

Yes, just less, and with less damages after 3 dudes. Should still be good though

[weary wasp]

The special suppose to do aoe now? I think

[analog juniper]

force block effect is different too

[primal aurora]

wat? a monkey paw update? (oh, corrected)

[weary wasp]

[patent steeple]

btw what is special about Maniac enemies? is it just the increased melee attack speed or is there like a stagger reduction as well?

[true lake]

Maniacs mainly do a lot of quick attacks

Flamer, rager, etc

[trim garnet]

its under the SFX/VFX/Animation part of the patch notes so who the fuck knows if its just a visual update or not

[onyx sentinel]

We don’t know what it means exactly yet - I assume it just means that the special “head pop” does an AoE damage/push

[trim garnet]

legit could just be a visuals thing or slimfish moment and its in the wrong segment of the notes

[runic hornet]

FS special is def not doing any AOE

[patent steeple]

ahh right ok. what about the difference between Infested and Unarmored?

[weary wasp]

The copium animation. Much like siena fire flail.

[runic hornet]

at least not in the range

[weary wasp]

Would not be surprised

[onyx sentinel]

If it does it’d literally be better than Thunder Hammer at sniping elites lmao

[sick kindle]

Didn't tell me anything other than you're asshurt there's people playing the game in ways you don't want them to. In which case I think I have some Neosporin for the asshurt. You want some?

[true lake]

Unarmored is just any part of an enemy with no armor, infested I think are mainly the basic dudes? Forgot what infested all includes

[analog juniper]

You can barely see when charging the Surge now, lol
I mean it does look cooler

[runic hornet]

so this is how they nerf surge

[devout moon]

I was about to say

[runic hornet]

by making it blind you as much as purgatus

[weary wasp]

Can have both on walkers, hound and plague ogryn, I think. Need testing.

[devout moon]

Do anyone elses eyes hurt with the new effect?

[onyx sentinel]

tf where’s this from?

[true lake]

You don't need to see with purgatus lol

[runic hornet]

game just updated

[true lake]

You just blast it

[onyx sentinel]

Wait it’s out what the fuck

[devout moon]

Yep

[patent steeple]

the melee trash enemies that look like zombies are all infested i think...

[true lake]

Probably but not sure if others count as infested

[tight saddle]

do you have motion blur and all those other stupid annoying settings turned off?

[floral fractal]

better since after the update?

[little compass]

What are good perks and blessings for purg staff?

[weary wasp]

If maggots are flying when you lend a hit, that's infested. Probably

[analog juniper]

doesnt affect with motion blur on/off

[bleak tulip]

yes, poxwalkers are infested

[runic hornet]

the ammo pool is still criminally low even with the damage buff

[grizzled iris]

I think you're the one being asshurt xD So defensive

[true lake]

The one where you can keep using the secondary without being interrupted and the one where enemies are suppressed if they are near you when you are using it

As for perks, just anything good against basic horde enemies and you should be good

[dapper void]

The new surge staff charge light is awful, I take what I said back, it glitches into the environment

[onyx sentinel]

Anyone tried FS changes yet?

[dapper void]

It's visual only 😐

[analog juniper]

yeah the explosion doesnt seem do do anything

it just melts their helmet/face

which is nice

[sick kindle]

Okay meta slave

[onyx sentinel]

Lmao

[little compass]

Thanks

[tight saddle]

do you macro it or just got the timing down? because that window on light is tiny

[grizzled iris]

I make my own Meta and I stick to it

[onyx sentinel]

Okay did all we get on the update were eye candies or did I miss anything?

[sick kindle]

No macros on my end. Ironically I find the timing of heavies to be more difficult to slide so I just use lights. 🤷‍♂️

[patent steeple]

1 new weapon for ogryn, 1 new weapon for zealot and 2 new modifiers idk about the rest...

[onyx sentinel]

For psykers

[runic juniper]

was hoping that force sword ability would be useable without having to waste wrath with it

[patent steeple]

ohh sorry yeah idk about that.

[true lake]

Probably just minor balance and visual changes to weapons I think

Nothing major tho

[tight saddle]

warp resist stat on it makes it cost very little, I think mine only costs 13% peril? I forgot what my roll on it was

[molten mauve]

Ayo, did they do something to reducing peil with R? I used to loop it at 100% with R, then charge again. Now it has like a 1-2 sec downtime and sometimes i need to hit "R" like multiple times?!

[lucid mortar]

The ratio of bug fixes to content does not lend itself to meaningful psyker balance changes right now. Maybe next patch lol

[true lake]

You can spam force sword special with just 99% peril last time I checked

[runic juniper]

that's not the issue, the issue is that you have to pop wrath in order to stagger everything around the target you are locked into

[true lake]

You aren't supposed to reduce with R...? Unless I'm missing something here

[tight saddle]

you can also do it between staggers with other tools, though you need to be aware of your surroundings before using it

[sick kindle]

I do actually like the fact there's tradeoffs between peril blocking between FS and non force weapons. FS can take much fewer hits because peril doesn't vent quickly enough passively and requires active mitigation but lets you tackle ranged. It has anti armor capability. It's one of the few choices in the game that's not outright 'Pick this or you're stupid and should uninstall'

[river sand]

shouldnt force sword be buffed, dont notice anything

[sick kindle]

Sidegrade choices for builds promote longevity of the game with more playtime. Games with stale builds and very little variety die far more quickly.

[true lake]

Naturally there aren't many builds due to how similar weapons are and the different subclasses don't exist yet

[bronze pulsar]

is 20% vs flak good on a force sword or somethign to reroll

[tight saddle]

Which there are lots of sidegrades atm fortunately, despite people saying there aren't. Of course lots of things need tweaks atm lol

[true lake]

20% flak is ok, a lot of enemies have flak armor

Just depends if you are using the FS against flak dudes or not

[stark snow]

patch downloaded but I'm not sure it's active yet? No news update, still can't sprint during heavy on FS

that might jsut be cope tho

[molten mauve]

When you hit the headpop like 4x you get on 100% if you have your "G" still active and hold "R" you lower it again. Used to be able to do it instantly after a cast. But now it sometimes doesn't register or I even have to wait like 1-2 sec or hit it multiple times until it gets it.

It's like a "soft nerf" to prevent from looping it.
Headpop - R for a sec - Headpop - R for a sec

[bronze pulsar]

im pretty sure its actrive since you can reroll perks

[true lake]

Hmm, not sure about that one because I never did that kind of brainpopping

[stark snow]

oh I did not check that

[tight saddle]

Wasn't it heavy during sprint that was fixed?

[stark snow]

it doesn't feel fixed to me

[tight saddle]

not sprint while heavy

[stark snow]

maybe the delay before the slowdown for the windup is fixed

idk couldn't tell much diff

the increased aoe during special attack is basically nothing though at least on first impression

[tight saddle]

other channels are saying that some of the things in their patch notes are missing when testing stuff as well while other things are added in

[stark snow]

for the push

[tight saddle]

unless the meat grinder doesn't follow the rest of the game being updated

[river sand]

theres no aoe for special ....

[nimble needle]

I believe it's just a visual effect

[tight saddle]

since the meat grinder already doesn't match some stuff in the actual game

[stark snow]

-Force Sword weapon special now creates a larger visual blast on damaging and killing heretics.

[river sand]

man that sucks, everybody gets buffed except psyker ... we just get nerfed again so we cant quell after brainburst .....

[jaunty atlas]

it's due to class buffs imho

[stark snow]

I don't think that said only visual before

but it doesn't seem to have any actual gameplay impact

[bold flint]

worth getting or naw

[nimble needle]

It's listed under animations. No gamplay impact

[stark snow]

was it listed under that yesterday when they posted? Thought it was lsited under weapons but I might be wrong

[clear heath]

It was listed under gameplay in the post from yesterday
My dissapointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

[stark snow]

yeah

ok I'm not crazy

[bronze pulsar]

if my surge staff has uninterruptible blessing already, is it scuffed if the other blessing is suppression on close kill? i feel like i hardly ever kill

idk what other blessing woudl be bettr though, i dont main pysker

[onyx sentinel]

ninja edited lmao

[tranquil fiber]

Mmmm this perks thing is interesting

I wonder if it locks all perks if you upgrade a Purple Curio to Legendary

[runic juniper]

that sounds pretty scuffed yeah, although it's probably the best you're going to get lol

[stark snow]

so does it reroll to a new perk, or just a different tier of the same perk?

[sick kindle]

Catch me using Trauma staff when they finally fix the values. Selectively ragdolling certain units while keeping others away with pinpoint control is going to be nice when it can actually have some lethality attached to it.

[tranquil fiber]

otherwise imma about to get max health and toughness on one curio

[bronze pulsar]

yeah like i don tthink its good...but i also dont know what other blessing is better on a surge staff. doesnt seem super blessing impacted other than uninterruptible and even thats kinda a nice to have

[bleak tulip]

cant find toughness damage reduction, pretty sure the build editor is just wrong

[tranquil fiber]

I think its been disabled

[bleak tulip]

also refining does become free

after a bit

[runic juniper]

Theres crit chance that stacks up the more peril, not sure if crit does anything for surge though???

[potent echo]

Wait the update is out?

[tranquil fiber]

yeah

arrived quietly

[bleak tulip]

and the noise is getting really annoying

[tight saddle]

do updates still reset graphic settings?

[potent echo]

Bruh I was looking at the news channels like 👀

[bronze pulsar]

yeah that one is not bad either, but surge is basically CC bot. i guess im okay with barrage lol f it

[tranquil fiber]

Suppress and Charge time / Crit chance

[tight saddle]

I can't skip the intro when launching the game anymore with escape wtf, I have to press and hold spacebar?

that's going to be annoying when caught in a crash loop

[stark snow]

yeah its dumb lol

[tranquil fiber]

yes they changed that

[cyan notch]

yea that one seems a bit busted

[potent echo]

Why

[cyan notch]

if you think about it its too good

[tranquil fiber]

You'd only have Max health and Toughness increase with it

[bronze pulsar]

its way too good yeah. its like the blessing that recharges your force sword on kill

they removed that shit never to be seen again probably

okay its not TAHT good but its good

[tranquil fiber]

what would be our best Perk Curios?

I guess blocking efficiency? would be next after max health and toughness

Toughness regeneration doesn't seem worth it

oo Combat ability

that would be the one

[bleak tulip]

combat ability caps out at 5%

seems pretty minor

sorry 4 even

[tight saddle]

ofc refining costs plasteels, why did I hope otherwise

[supple skiff]

alright time to see what this fs alt fire change is all about

[sick kindle]

Wow. The game feels so much more responsive already.

[bleak tulip]

it doesn cost anything after a bit dont worry about it

[sick kindle]

No more jittery frame dips. : D

[tranquil fiber]

hoping when I upgrade to legendary the other perk will be unlocked

[sick kindle]

LOL my bugged pennance finally unlocked.

[supple skiff]

difinitely not an aoe now

[sick kindle]

All my characters were thirty and retroactively got access to hadron before she even existed so I wasn't able to get it 😂

[bleak tulip]

it doesnt

[supple skiff]

ok so unless they buffed the damage for the fs alt fire idk whats different lol

[sick kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[tight saddle]

visual

[cyan notch]

grab it just for deflector

[sick kindle]

I feel so bad for people who can't get any deflectors to drop. If I could give them I would

[tranquil fiber]

sad toots

[supple skiff]

bruh

[tranquil fiber]

been blessed with two deflects but no real good staves

[ebon jolt]

Does refine roll the perk and tier just the perk or just the tier?

[patent steeple]

btw i have been thinking of trying out purge staff recently since after i came to the conclusion that i would do better in hordes if i used it rather than surge...

[potent echo]

Wait so should you wait till legendary to refine?

[stark snow]

did they just disable refine?

[tranquil fiber]

it seems so.

[lucid mortar]

So they added blurred vision to surge staff, sick

[tranquil fiber]

two out of three seems good.

[lucid mortar]

what a buff

[potent echo]

No one said psyker was getting buffed

[bleak tulip]

8 49
6 37
4 27
3 21
2 15
etc

reroll costs for refining in diamantine/plasteel
it gets to 0 and then you get to keep rerolling forever

[supple skiff]

oh okay I legit didnt see the FS change under the vfx tab

fuck me sideways

[potent echo]

What a weird system

[cyan notch]

this weird bb quelling delay is pretty lame

[lucid mortar]

this charge effect is nauseating

[potent echo]

They nerfed bb?

[tight saddle]

no tweaks to trauma right?

[severe folio]

greaat

[cyan notch]

yea theres some odd delay that happens when trying to quell after hitting 100

[supple skiff]

yo wtf is this

just tired it, my psyker hitting some tequila before the charge now?

[lucid mortar]

yeah it's real bad

[potent echo]

Psyker nerfs all around feels good

[lucid mortar]

there's a reason I turned off motion blur and camera sway

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/b5vhOVka0aCg vs https://prnt.sc/iGCf9hQfwlWW

[tranquil fiber]

does it turn that off?

stop the blurr even

I thought I had it off

[echo parrot]

Well known protip is to turn off motion blur in every game you play.

[tight saddle]

I believe surge ignores that setting

and blurs anyways

[supple skiff]

I had motion blur on just turned it off surge still blurry

[potent echo]

Feels more powerful

[supple skiff]

psyker killed one of the dev's parents confirmed

this is rediculous

[echo parrot]

Swapping to vet

[tranquil fiber]

mmmm its not just BB

[supple skiff]

surge quick swap doesnt finish the channel

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-cat-mad-watch-this-swag-crash-lol-gif-20326813

[tranquil fiber]

there is a delay on quell whenever you get to 100% Peril

so not just with BB

[echo parrot]

That is not how you use a bicycle lock

[tranquil fiber]

This blur is awful.

[primal aurora]

blur on the cat?

[rich hollow]

Question, does anyone have an issue with the aim on ranged staff shots. It never lines up for me.

[tranquil fiber]

blur on my life

[supple skiff]

that BB quel delay is fucking bad

[lucid mortar]

There's some randomness to it, you have to stand still for complete accuracy

[primal aurora]

yes, we all have this issue

[severe folio]

so no trauma fix ?

[echo parrot]

No issues on aiming for me.

Guess I am going back to voidstaff if surge comes with mandatory eye vasoline.

[bronze pulsar]

FYI you can reroll higher TIERS as well. since the cost eventually becomes 0 you shoudl jsut reroll until you get the highest tier of the perk you want.

[echo parrot]

Which I am not exactly complaining about, surge is boring as hell after awhile.

[bronze pulsar]

i got +10% vs elites (4pips) after several iterations of +8% vs elites (3pips)

[tranquil fiber]

Trauma staff is still buggered - I just instantly exploded

[echo parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1049737926390595654/image.png I am looking forward to refining my baby.

The 25% carapace is obviously getting locked

[runic juniper]

this feels so good to have now

[leaden pier]

anyone try out the fs explosion yet?

[jagged vault]

did the extra explosion on the force sword not ship? I didn't see it in the notes or a difference much in game

[hardy lily]

They stealth nerfed Psykers again? Are you fucking kidding me?

[supple skiff]

yeah its just visual

[severe folio]

what do you mean again

[leaden pier]

:( damn

[ornate hamlet]

no way

just visual??

[lucid mortar]

Looks like i'm a void main sorry to my future surge-less teammates

[primal aurora]

I don't get it either, not even visuals changed for me

[supple skiff]

it was under the visual tab in the patch notes, idk how I missed that but looks like Im not alone in that

blinded by our copium addictions perhaps

[ornate hamlet]

yeah not seeing any visual changes

[jagged vault]

[ebon jolt]

Does the rolled perk stay at the same tier or can it increase in tier level?

[raw breach]

Have they put out the patch yet? I haven't seen any update go out on Steam

[ornate hamlet]

yes

[ebon jolt]

Ah nevermind someone already stated you can roll higher.

[sick kindle]

Yeah there is a delay to quell after hitting 100 now. That's hillarious. Stealth nerfing psykers and not fixing their broken staves that don't work and their scaling issues.

[ornate hamlet]

ur kiddin

[sick kindle]

Oh well, all the more reason to passive quell now

[nimble needle]

trauma didn't get fixed?

[tranquil fiber]

nope

[raw breach]

patch notes came out yesterday, but patch hasn't dropped yet

[ornate hamlet]

so they stealth nerf'd and lied about the FS new effect? neat

[cyan notch]

i like how they didnt say any of this

[lucid mortar]

I'm thinking they're gonna hotfix this surge effect it's so bad lmao

[tranquil fiber]

whats changeD?

[sick kindle]

It is out right now my dude

[tranquil fiber]

^

[nimble needle]

Patch is live right now wtf you talking about

[ornate hamlet]

its out bro

[supple skiff]

im not seeing a delay when I staff quell

[jagged vault]

yea it's 8gb restart steam

[woven crow]

What's melee had the best push attack for the infinite block? I like the duelling blade but the push attack is bleh

[supple skiff]

there was one with BB out beforem, but it wasnt this bad

[nimble needle]

You can definitely tell that there's a new patch because a bunch of people who can't play are back on

[echo parrot]

If you want block cheese, get a mk V axe

Gets boring af after awhile though

[sacred lodge]

Oh so that’s why lobbies were empty

[onyx sentinel]

What the fuck

[sacred lodge]

Didn’t say I got a patch to patch, and my steam doesn’t do this on the automatic so… something happened

[supple skiff]

nerfs before fixes before buffs, seems legit

[sick kindle]

yeah I'll get video. It's funny.

[wet finch]

surge staff is kind of...epilepsy causing now

[onyx sentinel]

Inb4 it’s another bug

[vestal rose]

my EYES

[lucid mortar]

yeah it's straight up an accessibility issue

[sacred lodge]

At this point, I think psyker as a whole is a bug

[summer prairie]

you can still switch to your staff and start quelling immediately, so the delay is just stupid

[vestal rose]

sorry guys, i think I caused the surge staff thing
I got a really good drop yesterday and finally switched off purg

[ornate hamlet]

well ive seen the one thing the updated added. time to wait another 2 weeks :D

[wet finch]

i have never felt any motion sickness or anything, but this is not ok 😂

[cyan notch]

why not get 20% lol

[tranquil fiber]

I didn't know I needed glasses to play Surge

[gray island]

i have like no materials atm it was ordo dockets before so im happy with the 15% for now

[tidal adder]

Honestly the only reason im playing is FOMO that ill miss something until the game is fixed lol

[echo parrot]

Thats it, Black Ship for you.

[worn jewel]

wtf is with the surge staff effects

[ornate hamlet]

is there any reason why they made surge give your guy astigmatism for a few secs

[tidal adder]

How os the force sword special now?

[vestal rose]

but i don't wanna be the emperor's breakfast cereal ;-;

[sacred lodge]

I just wanted to play with friends, but then got hooked into an addictive game loop

[ornate hamlet]

unchanged

[jagged vault]

pain

[nimble needle]

Literally the exact same

[tired cosmos]

Lvl 16 psyker. What blessings Toughness wounds health, should I focus on for 2 curios for surviving and perks should I focus on beyond that

[sacred lodge]

It’ll be fine, you won’t even know you’re gone. It’s basically like cessation of existence

[primal aurora]

There seems to be a delay proportionate to peril overflow. If cast just barelly touched 100% there is no delay, if you casted on 99% peril you get few seconds of delay.

[tranquil fiber]

https://streamable.com/ufupn7

[sick kindle]

That exactly

[tidal adder]

Shit i guess i shouldve bought this game in a year on a sale when its completed

[static wyvern]

Psyker ? Completed it mate

[spice oar]

Ayo siblings is it true that the update launched, but it didn't actually add anything?

[gray island]

my personaly preference is 1 wound and 2 toughness curios.

[ornate hamlet]

ok so they made it so you can only edge 97% once, after that you can't immediately quell. so you can do 2 quick brain-bursts, then have to passively quell, then you can do another two

[storm stone]

is a shame the modifiers section is so low...but it's got it where it counts lol

[gray island]

you got 48 more missions to go sibling

[tired cosmos]

Lvl 16 psyker. What blessings Toughness wounds health, should I focus on for 2 curios for surviving and perks should I focus on beyond that

[static wyvern]

All the important ones are done tho. This one will come in time sibling

[stone narwhal]

How is everyone dealing with the new surge staff vfx? Is it hurting any one else's eyes? The blur and flashing blue light is just a bit much - by like a mile.

[echo parrot]

Doesnt look completed to me

[onyx sentinel]

On malice it doesn’t matter

[static wyvern]

Tried to do the Pick N Mix for 4hrs today

Sanity broken

[tired cosmos]

@gray island okay thank you. What would you perk for add to toughness

[jaunty moth]

i dont like that blurr crap with the surge staff wtf

[onyx sentinel]

Probably just toughness

[sick kindle]

OH JESUS WHAT THE FUCK

[vestal rose]

i just close my eyes when i zap people

[sick kindle]

Yeah the surge is awful now

[heady sapphire]

Which difficulty are you trying it on?

[gray island]

i like these 3 perks.

[static wyvern]

Did it on a Damnation assasination. 5 dreg gunners

[tired cosmos]

@gray island okay thank you What lvl do u need to be able to use that curio

[gray island]

hi intensity heresy seems to be best luck for me. found 6 gunners at the start of a missions

[heady sapphire]

Pretty sure it's easiest on malice because you can still one shot ragers and gunners, and the game spawns more shotgunners it seems on malice.

[elder rivet]

epic scam

[worn jewel]

Ok surge staff is unusable now

it literally hurts my eyes

[tired cosmos]

As a psyker my biggest problem is survicing

[sick kindle]

Damn that's what I really love to see. Why even give me a motion blur to turn off if the surge staff gives it back and kicks me in the nutsack in the process

[vestal rose]

guess ill finally go level my zealot

[jaunty moth]

agree 100%

[ebon sedge]

Yes I agree, it's in french

[sick kindle]

It literally makes me sick to use now

[static wyvern]

Has to be Heresy or higher. Up to damnation you can 1 shot gunners, snipers, shotgunners and bombers with brain burst

[gray island]

you can get it at any level. lower level curios will have smaller % but still good until you hit higher levels

[ebon jolt]

The visual change in surge staff is that bad? Is this supposed to be a lore thing?

[worn jewel]

Keep the blue light effects on the target but remove the fucking foggy distortion

[elder rivet]

make the effort, all the things is at literally the same place in every language

[worn jewel]

Goddamnit obesefish

[heady sapphire]

I'm confusing it with the allahu akbar penance my bad lmao

[wet finch]

yes.

[static wyvern]

Yeah that one took about a week xD

[ebon sedge]

I meant it's scam because it is in french

[stone narwhal]

I'm willing to sacrifice the tendons in my wrist and fingers to play this game, but not my eyes. The blur+flashing blue lights hurts my eyes.

[jaunty moth]

back to void staff

[heady sapphire]

Do you know if Daemonhost works for the monstrosity one?

[tired cosmos]

Is there a recent video that lists what optimized hot links for where key Biggs should go as psyker, most notably dodge. I am not using it greate.

[sick kindle]

This is going to turn out to be a community meme though and you know it. 'Psyker mains be all like 'OOOO OW OW. BLUE LIGHT AND BLUR EYE HURTY'

[jagged vault]

it's the easiest prolly with the demon

[sick kindle]

But seriously though

[proper grove]

anyone getting weird delays when trying to quell at 100%?

[static wyvern]

Yes. It's beast of Nurgle, plague Ogryn, Daemonhost or Assasination target. Plague ogryn easiest by far

[sick kindle]

Please, devs, if you're reading this. Please let us disable this effect as a settings option.

[heady sapphire]

Cause if so I'll be forcing my mates to all run ogryns with shields and just tank the daemonhost so I can get that shit.

[tired cosmos]

Is there a youtube video or web page that gives quick breakdown of optimizing Hollins for things like that

[severe folio]

damn this update was suppose to be hope

but now it just look like exactly what the teaching of the imperium is

Hope is the first step to disappointment

[static wyvern]

Found a Plague Ogryn, started running up the stairs, jump over a fence, back upstairs on a loop for 10min xD

[tidal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-ill-have-better-luck-next-time-preacher-dan-curse-of-the-undead-maybe-next-time-better-luck-next-time-gif-18798921

[heady sapphire]

Sounds like classic Nazi Zombies tactics

[static wyvern]

It works

Easier than beast of nurgle or a daemon. It just chases you, as soon as you jump turn around and start popping

[hidden breach]

they also fixed the 100% surge cast

[sick kindle]

NOOOO THEY NERFED SUPER SLIDE 😭

[hidden breach]

double loss

[mellow valley]

pick'n'mix they just changed the description

[sick kindle]

My boy. LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOY

[mellow valley]

they really did change the penance

[woven crow]

Surge spam is pretty fun. Any other builds worth exploring? Flamethrower felt ok but disliked the lack of range

[heady sapphire]

Anyone else hoping for some sleeveless options for psyker cosmetics that aren't pay to play? Not sure why I could put tattoos on this guy if he's always gonna be wearing sleeves

[remote tusk]

voidstrike is fun with the animation cancel

[tidal adder]

So theyre fixing issues that make the game playable and they will focus on the balancing later, i hope. Thats probably good tactic right? I cant wait when this game releases

[tired cosmos]

I have a lvl 29 vet and me a 16 psych purgatos who usnt very good but can do well aspiration wise.

What do u think is highest lvl we can try together

[sick kindle]

Literally zero reason to use the DS without it's mobility option.

[tidal adder]

Malice

[meager eagle]

anyone noticed the shock staff has a very disorienting screen effect now?

[vestal rose]

prisoner garments, you penniless reject
only microtransaction-paying customers are welcome here

[tired cosmos]

Malice is how many bars?

[remote tusk]

3

[tired cosmos]

Okay thanks

[sick kindle]

OH DAAAANNY BOOOOY. THE PIPES THE PIPES ARE CALLIIIING

RIP Psyker. Losing more options for play than before.

[ebon jolt]

Didn’t they state they made that change to make I’m the player feel more “powerful”?

[stone narwhal]

Yep. It is terrible. Blur+flashing blue lights. It really strains the eyes. Not fun.

[remote tusk]

what did they change it to?

[meager eagle]

yeah i had to leave mid-match it was giving me damn near motion sickness

[tidal adder]

Are there new cosmetics?

[mellow valley]

nothing they changed the description

[spice oar]

Hope is too much for this dark world.

[gray island]

not that i saw. dont even see the aquilla change they said would be there

[ebon jolt]

“The Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff has had its VFX buffed to feel more impactful.”

[cyan notch]

no they didnt

[spice oar]

They really made us FEEL like we in 40k

[remote tusk]

oof

[tight saddle]

guess I'm not touching surge until this is fixed

[bitter abyss]

Psyker RTX Enabled

[tranquil fiber]

[stone narwhal]

Odd thing is, the lightning effect stayed the same, all they did was add 'massive' screen blur and bright flashing lights. It's horrible.

[sick kindle]

Yes they did. The boost from the lunge no longer works. The stamina preservation still exists but there's zero momentum from light or heavies now.

[tranquil fiber]

needs more blue and blur

[echo parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-burning-eyes-gif-14210748

[sick kindle]

Literally no reason to use DS now. Shit armor and mobility.

[remote tusk]

I've been calling it the epilepsy staff. Guess they really leant into that

[meager eagle]

imo the blue light is kind of cool (needs toned down obv) but jesus christ the blur

[cyan notch]

are you doing it properly? im doing it rn

[heady sapphire]

I already fed them enough money for a broken game lmao I'm not going to feed the already fatshark more for cosmetics in a game that's very much still in early release stages.

[stone narwhal]

Same, I could deal with the blue light, but the blur is physically painful.

[bitter abyss]

i can't even launch the game now anyway cause of patch so RIP till fixed.

[stone narwhal]

Blur and blue light in combination? Definitely not.

[tranquil fiber]

Plasma vision

[vestal rose]

yeah I'm really seeing no reason to get my hopes up lol
what a mess

[ebon jolt]

So what. We post in the forums and everyone talks about how much they hate it and ask for a rollback for the change?

[tranquil fiber]

[spice oar]

Yeah, again

[tranquil fiber]

I think just reporting it as a bug is the best thing we can do or post it to reddit

or maybe talk to CM maybe who knows.

[spice oar]

How do you fuck up a update like this it ain't even that big

[heady sapphire]

It's almost like they didn't even look at what they were doing they just implemented it and said "yeah that's gonna be cool. They're gonna love this."

[gray island]

o no 1 overused weapon hurts my eyes, the entire game is ruined

[spice oar]

Its 1 map, 2 weapons and balance patches, which NONE WORK

[tranquil fiber]

There is no shame in having a test server to pre-approve what launches

[vestal rose]

Just went through the config file and manually turned off every setting in there, just in case
the game looks potato as heck but the blur is still wrecking my eyes, there's no way out of it ;-;

[spice oar]

And the conditions that we were gonna get went from 3,to 2,to just 1

[heady sapphire]

Would be much preferred to getting non-tested shit updates that fix some things and break others.

[stone narwhal]

I just don't understand how they thought blurring the screen so heavily on a weapon you are using constantly would be a good idea?

[spice oar]

Granted 1 of them was actually high intensity which we all ready had, but the other isn't an excuse

[ornate hamlet]

the goal is to make players so dizzy they stop playing. duh

[vestal rose]

It's completely absurd. There's zero good reason that this should ever have made it to players.
But, this is fatshark, and they clearly have some major issues somewhere in their studio

[bitter abyss]

Triple the damage, amount of hit enemies, etc to compensate for now having no eyes while using plz?

[tranquil fiber]

Like they don't even need to have it online all the time... Just stagger it on/off every 2 weeks when you have a big patch coming along.
People can test everything and bug report then they can address feedback for patches.
This is just embarrassing for them in this department.

[tranquil fiber]

we said buff psykers but this is too much

[sick kindle]

Fuck this I'm going back to VT2 until this early access game gets more updates.

[cyan notch]

?

[stone narwhal]

Yeah, I was really only playing for the Psyker, and the surge staff was the most fun weapon. I don't see myself sticking around either if this doesn't get changed fast.

[sick kindle]

That isn't super sliding. That's regular sliding preservation with a swing.

https://streamable.com/hhxt8k

[bitter abyss]

they didn't like our zoomies?

[sick kindle]

Same speed, broski

[spice oar]

They getting racist in chat siblings

[sick kindle]

It is GONE. TWO stealth nerfs

Community transparency my ass

[bitter abyss]

makin me just wanna play Vet/Zealot... one patch at a time. :/

[olive ember]

update out?

[gray island]

😦

[stone narwhal]

My apologies, sibling, but I'm still suffering temporary blindness following use of my Surge Staff, I haven't been able to read gen chat, as I've been preserving my strength for this area,.

[primal aurora]

Just had a game with other psyker using Surge staff. I asked how his eyes. He replied that he's ok, he's wearing welding googles.

[bitter abyss]

Fatshark must have paired with an Ophthalmologist/Eye Doctor Company, and they needed to drum up new business

[elder rivet]

what is the best perk for purge staff ?

[bitter abyss]

wearing sunshades with it

oh i thought you said surge. lol

[tranquil fiber]

I don't see color, infact I don't bloody see anything

[stone narwhal]

Having eye transplants lined up and ready to go.

[gray island]

sad my dueling sword is useless now

[orchid nest]

trauma seems to deal its full damage without any falloff except for the very far edge now but the table values are still much higher than the actual ones

[tranquil fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-no-problem-here-crazy-eyes-gif-12788383

[bitter abyss]

we're funding the cyberpunk revolution. imma need some Kiroshi Tech Mk VII eyeballs after 2 hours of this.

[cyan notch]

i wonder if 100% peril quelling is intended or stealth nerf

[bitter abyss]

(if i could launch the game that is. Update broke me)

[tranquil fiber]

Trauma is not doing full damage - have a look at the page two tab for secondary damage

[jade sundial]

Anyone can send a video of this Surge staff being too bright? ive seen the memes but i couldnt get in the game yet, is it that bad?

[vestal rose]

damnation pugs aren't ready for this melee-only psyker

[orchid nest]

I mentioned this in my reply already. I mean the aoe falloff isn't losing damage

[cyan notch]

its not bright it makes everything blurry and fuzzy

[tranquil fiber]

ahh my bad gotcha

[orchid nest]

setting the launcher exe to force launch as admin in its properties let me launch

[olive ember]

wait so are people memeing or did psyker actually get screwed by shadow nerfs?

[tight saddle]

not memeing

[sick kindle]

We got fucked by peril overflow nerfs and weapon sliding mobility.

[cyan notch]

nobody asked for the surge change

[sick kindle]

The second one technically affected all classes

A tech that hurt literally NO ONE and was just to fuck around and have fun.

[jovial frigate]

ok yeah sure i can tolerate this. critical zappy boi

[cyan notch]

could u get higher than 4% for crit chance?

[teal needle]

So anyone tried the force sword explosion yet

[jovial frigate]

likely if you rolled a non 20-point number yeah

[olive ember]

What is the peril overflow nerfs?

[inland glen]

The new Psyker Surge Staff VFX really makes you FEEL like a crazed Psyker

[sick kindle]

There is a delay in venting peril if you reach a value higher than one hundred than you could have if it didn't already hit 100

[orchid nest]

they seem to have fixed the infinite surge thing and sprint cancelling it in general too

[cyan notch]

nvm i was rolling for like 15mins straight just got it after u posted lol

[olive ember]

so

whats the point of that garbage?

the peril class can't vent on demand to use peril

[tight saddle]

i want that, it can probably comfortably do 1500 dps with that one secret tech instead of just 1k+

[jovial frigate]

yeah you rnged the 25 point perk and then rnged the crit % to get 5%. jelly of ur voidstrike wanna trade

[ivory marsh]

how you guys liking the palpatine staff looking more "impactful"

[cyan notch]

just keep rolling till u get it tbh might as well

[sick kindle]

I have zero idea why these things were stealth nerfed and not critically underperforming/broken things not functioning properly. I'm seriously annoyed that 'We didnt intend that but it's fun and hurts no one so we'll keep it in' doesn't fly.

Imagine having fun in video games in 2022, couldn't be me

[wet finch]

just played one game, eyes actually hurting a bit. never had issues like this in any game. been a gamer my whole life

[worn jewel]

I cant play the game now. They actually nerfed surge via a VFX update. The stealth nerf we never expected.

[plush aspen]

Yo they buffed surge staff lightning, I finally felt the power of the warp through my eyes

[vestal rose]

videogames are products to make money, not things to be enjoyed
at least, as far as the people calling the shots care
hope you enjoy it cause it's never leaving 🙃

[teal needle]

So did they change what force sword does?

[worn jewel]

All I want is to shoot lightning. It was perfectly fine before; now Tzeentch is literally digging into my eye balls with a spoon.

[uncut spire]

can't see shit and it actually makes me nauseous

[tight saddle]

nope it was just a visual change

[tranquil fiber]

Well it was nice Surging with ya'll into the bin it goes

[vestal rose]

I'm sure they'll change it in the next patch two weeks from now :)