psyker-class

[half turtle]

is bb actually useful on high diff

[night marten]

it kills a few things, and staggers others.

[half turtle]

i remember people were complaining about bb being bad

hm ok so it's like a cc/utility/special snipe thing more than a go-to

[night marten]

are you interested in being "meta"?

[half turtle]

yes i just want a thoughtless build guide so i don't have to think about anything other than click to kill man

[celest oar]

Meta meta would be axe with surge staff i guess?

[night marten]

play vet honestly

[half turtle]

oh sweet i like axe a lot

[deft valley]

Any reqs for flame psyker build? Been lightning spoiled and can't get a good roll on the staffs highest staff is the purgatory staff

[night marten]

but if you're insisting on psyker, axe+surge is an easy meta

[celest oar]

And yea, pysker isnt meant for brainless play

[half turtle]

oh to be clear im fine with finicky play patterns

i just dont want to think about what i need to be optimizing rolling

[celest oar]

Run voidstrike machine gun with axe for brainless play

[night marten]

should use AB, probably 6 warp charges, kinetic block

ideally with FS+deflector, but ant axe mk 5 works just as well

[deft valley]

Ab?

[night marten]

ascendant blaze

[celest oar]

You need macros for voidstrike machine gun though

[night marten]

can choose between communion or aura feats, dealer's choice

quietitude is a safe choice, but when you get comfortable with the build essence harvest can be good too

[celest oar]

Pysker is the class with the most weapon exploits lol

[deft valley]

Thanks been rolling malice with my bro both descent power but seems like the enemy spawns are coming for a higher diff lately low levels are in lobby seem to has no prob in the same games its gotten me irritated anyone have the same issue?

[night marten]

just make sure you're avoiding high intensity mission modifiers

[celest oar]

We have

1. Sprint cancel (surge 2nd, purg 2nd)
2. Quell cancel (all staff 1st, void 2nd)
3. Switch cancel (Forcesword lawnmower)

Devs probably having a field day looking at our pysker chat now 🤣

[fading shoal]

aqshy and hedge lurking in here:

[deft valley]

Its all been regular 3, low lvls do fine though, but higher lvl players it seems just got shit on its strange I'm thinking possible bug?

[deft valley]

You get hit though your demolished with charge attacks like lightning and pyro

[celest oar]

Demolished?

[jaunty atlas]

man i lv all the classes i'm struggling on psyker, everything feels like shit. pretty sure antax is my main main weapon atm. every exploit should be a feature at this point

[potent echo]

Buff psykers

[jaunty atlas]

honestly ? i wish for you guys. they can take my shield and rumbler for it i'll gladly accept

[celest oar]

Use them while they last, maybe we get better weapons/ buffs before they fix

[runic hornet]

psyker staffs scale extremely hard with base numbers

because it's not just damage

like a 150 power grey sword still behaves like a sword against upsring trash

[deft valley]

Unless you have the staff perk "not interrupted when hit" you can't do anything if ganged up on

[runic hornet]

but the difference between a 80% charge time stick and a 20% charge time stick is like 1.0 full seconds

it's the difference between reaching full charge in 1.31 seconds versus 2.31

[celest oar]

Use your sword lol

[runic hornet]

and like the difference between 40% and 80% quelling speed is like a full second difference from 100 to 0

[topaz sable]

use your block push every few attacks and you wont get hit if you're also dodging

[runic hornet]

tbh random dodges get punished way worse in this game than they do in VT2

[hardy lily]

You can always use a non-force sword with Kinetic Deflection and never die while using parry attacks

[runic hornet]

my bigggest advice for players struggling in melee is to use less dodges tbh

[jaunty atlas]

or use antax.

[runic hornet]

if you use dodges that you don't have to, you provoke running attacks which will then need to either be interrupted or properly dodged, not just "dodged because I happened to dodge at the time"

[deft valley]

True but also depends on what your melee is dueling sword works pretty well for speed

[jaunty atlas]

at least for leveling, dunno later

[hardy lily]

Dueling Sword MK V has extra block stat

The heavies also 2 shot Ragers and Mutants lol

[celest oar]

Use axe push attack spam or FS lawnmower for attack speed

Dueling swords are more meant for high mobility

[runic hornet]

yeah, dueling sword is all about that light attack->small delay->slide tech

[spiral remnant]

STOOOOOP

[runic hornet]

you go iceskating all over the place, it's great

[spiral remnant]

I HAVE 7 GOLDEN GUNS NOW

???

i literally only have 2 golden staves and one of them is a trauma

[hardy lily]

They might allow shared inventory so maybe it will be a Veteran weapon some day lol

[deft valley]

So anyone else getting shit low lvl rolls in the armory? Been getting low lvls as of late that pop up in it

[hardy lily]

Yeah

I took like a week long break so I haven't been camping shop

[spiral remnant]

If they let us “sacrifice” other golds to upgrade a weapons base stat

You best believe I’m getting rid of ALL of my golden guns

[deft valley]

So updates post to supposedly be out today right?

[spiral remnant]

Only just turned 14th an hour ago for me

[hardy lily]

I need to get me Voidstrike, it's currently only 37% damage stat

[spiral remnant]

So it’ll probs be another 8-9 hours atleast

[spiral remnant]

Pain

[celest oar]

I am just guessing here, but its highly likely 0300 jst on 16th december

[deft valley]

I'm in FL so it's 12/15 for me

[celest oar]

Their community update ystd and the game release time was both at that time. Though as mentioned, its just a guess

[deft valley]

Fair enough, I'm more so excited for the apparel to change

[celest oar]

Patch shall be delayed again... INDEFINITELY

[deft valley]

?

[celest oar]

Its a joke lol

[deft valley]

Idk now a days it's been the normal on that

[celest oar]

Though imagine if theytried saying that for April's fool... Wonder if it ends up as a laugh or a disaster

[deft valley]

My guess a disaster lol

So force sword secondary attack is it just a single target attack or does it effect multiple targets? I really can't tell

[stable beacon]

which of the 2 would you guys recommend upgrading

[celest oar]

Top one because quell speed and warp resist higher

[rigid lodge]

Honestly would recommend you hold on to the mats and use one of them at blue for now, probably the first

[celest oar]

The rest dont really matter for a surge staff

[drowsy fog]

eyyy got warp battery, easier to hold the charges than I thought

suppose I could aim for going out with a bang now

[rigid lodge]

good luck

that was my least favourite to get of all 4 classes

[drowsy fog]

getting the dog mid pounce was the most annoying for me so far

after genuine effort trying to time it game after game I got it by complete accident immediately after getting the demon kill for malleus

I screamed

[deft valley]

I got mine by luck tbh dot remember how though

[drowsy fog]

only going out with a bang and pick n mix left to go

apart from "complete X missions" kinda stuff

[coral valve]

Anyone fancy helping a nerd out with http://puu.sh/Juac1/8fb42e5d01.jpg ?

[drowsy fog]

wait til tomorrow to try pick n mix theres apparently something wrong with it thats being fixed in the update

[deft valley]

I'm kinda struggling with the 3 for one self bomber challenge

[hardy lily]

Psykinetic aura only triggers if the Psyker kills elites right?

[coral valve]

It's worded like so, yes

[static epoch]

I'm never going to do going out with a bang. Literally griefing

[coral valve]

That's a shame, only these 2 penances I have left of the classes. Rest is just play X games

[rigid lodge]

Yup, I spent several hours griefing teams before giving up. I then got it by happen chance a couple of missions later.

[raw breach]

I can't do it. I've tried to make Void work but I still feel like Surge CC is better on Heresy/Damnation. I'm going back to my zappy bae

[static epoch]

I am just getting them as I play, they're just general achievements but worse.

[rigid lodge]

What ended up getting it for me was I saw 3 gunners coming towards me, I ducked behind some cover and realised I had an opportunity. Overheated myself as they come round the corner, was perfect luck in the end got me it.

[tawdry dove]

Got Pick 'n Mix randomly ngl

I just BB everything haha

[coral valve]

The problem is having randoms shoot the glowy head before you manage to BB

[tawdry dove]

Yep

[static epoch]

I got it while helping a veteran with like 6 gunners on high intensity lol

[rigid lodge]

I got Pick n Mix when I randomly got a shit team that wasn't killing elites

[drowsy fog]

hadron did me dirty and put run n gun on my perfect purge

[raw breach]

I finally got a really good Void, my Surge staff is kinda crazy so i thought maybe i just didn't have a good enough void staff. But I finally got a really good Void, good blessings, 469 compared to my 496 surge... and the damage is great on Artillery staff but the CC is just too valuable to me and my playstyle while damage isn't very far behind tbh

[static epoch]

The throneside map with the drop into the largest area on the map, sometimes on high intensity that area is so chock full of ranged and specials it's absurd 😄

[tawdry dove]

Now I want to find some people who is keen for doing Malleus Monstronum

[static epoch]

It's not that there's more than usual it's just completely open.

[coral valve]

I can assist with that, if you're willing to help me out :)))

[runic hornet]

yeah, honestly the best thing to do is to aggro the mobs and then pull them around a tight corner

even if this means having to walk backwards for 10+ seconds

it's better than trying to trade

[tawdry dove]

What do you need ?

[runic hornet]

once you know what places of the maps are "bad news" and you locate the good ground and can get a 4-stack to take these good positions, that eliminates like >70% of the difficulty of damnation

[coral valve]

Bang and Pick n Mix

[runic hornet]

and, of course, the problem with quickplay pugs is that they don't understand good ground versus bad groun dand literally just kill themselves

[drowsy fog]

trying to think like... should I just start going critical when I see raiders in the approaching horde or...

[undone badge]

purgatus can't hit weak points right?

[tawdry dove]

Wish I could help but I can only do 1 more game man

[drowsy fog]

probably not gonna get malleus in 1 more game, if you dont get lucky with a demonhost spawn good luck otherwise

[tawdry dove]

How about let me help you with that bang penance ?

[coral valve]

sure, in strike team 11, hopefully we can do both

[runic hornet]

fml
I just had a heresy hi intensity game with:

knife + recon las psyker
knife + shotgun zealot
knife + surge psyker

I have never been so glad to have trauma staff in my fucking life

trauma staff really is the "can't trust anyone" staff

[orchid ice]

Is playing Psyker with a gun instead of a staff strictly inferior?

[runic hornet]

Mg12 gunpsyker works because the mg12 is insanely good

and you can still one-headshot riflemen even on damnation

[compact cargo]

Why run gunpsyker when u can do unlimited lighting

[runic hornet]

so if you're good and don't need counterfire to find and headshot riflemen, it's not significantly worse than veteran at that role. Worse at killing reapers, but better at clutch saves (because you have ult, instead of F) and better at killing bulwarks and any position where you're suppressed to hell (large gunner spawns)

the real downside of gunpsyker is that you don't have powersword

lmao

fucking powersword

[compact cargo]

mg12 works on zealot, works on psyker, shame ogryn can't have a ratling with one in his pocket

[orchid ice]

mass effect biotic cosplay

[compact cargo]

Don't worry power sword will be nerfed

soontm

[orchid ice]

What about the Soulblaze capstone
is that worth

[compact cargo]

soulblaze- outside of lvl 30 not worth prob

[cyan notch]

because you have ult instead of F

LOL

[static epoch]

I get nothing out of it unless I put my entire build around it and purgatus.

[runic hornet]

okay that was a bad sentence

but the point is if you don't need vet's damage buff

you have a CC ult capable of saves for when people fuck up, mainly for dogs and sometimes trappers

and of course people will say "well my team never fucks up, so I don't need that" well if your team never fucks up then you don't need any fucking ult now, don't you

[cyan notch]

bad toughness gen

[runic hornet]

especially in the current state of dog

[static epoch]

6 stack soulblaze on ult is a good save

[compact cargo]

still meh damage

[runic hornet]

honestly I like warpcharge synergy for psyker a lot on gunpsyker, after having played it some more

[compact cargo]

compared to others*

[static epoch]

I think the loss of other utility is not worth because of that yeah, the damage mainly

[runic hornet]

it's less constant but you get big spikes of it as long as kills are being made

and in weird situations against rifles, you can grab your toughness yourself by just, y'know, BBing some rifles

a vet would have to suck his thumb regenning toughness anyway

before repeeking

and you can snag 2-3 BB kills while you do so

[fading galleon]

Hello sparkheads. decided to take a peek in here from the neighbouring Ogryn chat. of course you're busy crafting all that "thee-oh-rie" in here. nice roleplaying as massive nerds, lads. keep it up.

[raw breach]

I just don't feel safe with anything other than Surge above Heresy

The damage of Void doesn't make up for the CC of Surge

[mellow crescent]

Thank you, large one.
You should check out the chat when the peril levels get high though.
We've had daemon incursions here, I swear.

[celest oar]

Do you mean when we have discussions about what is best weapon?
Or when we discuss how to break said weapons?

[celest oar]

Well, theres always anti manifestation protocols

[warm meteor]

did someone summon me

[hoary hearth]

can someone post a screenshot of the pants that you get for pick n mix and warp battery penances?

[celest oar]

Loads gun

[warm meteor]

swaps to force sword

[celest oar]

picks up sniper rifle

[warm meteor]

thats a bug!

quick fat shark patch the game right now

[celest oar]

Too late headshot sound in background

[deft fiber]

Carpet pants.

[hushed crater]

Fancy pants

[drowsy fog]

ogryn friend came to visit? I like ogryns they're chill

[viscid matrix]

My fellow psykers, when we get the refining, what perks do y’all want try to go for on your weapons

[celest oar]

eh, you realize its just... increasing the current perk, not choosing a new one?

Actually nvm, did they change the wording on the blog post? Might actually be replacing now

nvm

this is from ystds update

this is last week

[hard breach]

So I think the ogryns want better bone'eads they want to "have more thinky thoughts"

[drowsy fog]

welp theres no getting going out with a bang with vets on the team

[hardy lily]

Let em die

[hard breach]

You know the vets are hungry for kills

[drowsy fog]

ran into a group of like 6 various elites and they just instantly went down

kinda busted

half of em were ogryn

[hard breach]

It relases goody good chemicals in vet brain

[lone canopy]

I'm not looking forward to the one where I need to do the majority damage to the monstrosity on heresy. Sigh. I need more friends.

[faint heron]

is out with a bang still bugged aand only possible on Heresy or can you do it on malice now?

[lone canopy]

You can do it on malice now. I got it on malice.

[hoary hearth]

why do i even grind pick n mix then?

[lone canopy]

For the goggles.

[hoary hearth]

I don't like the goggles

[lone canopy]

I wear my sunglasses at night

Same tbh

[hard breach]

My beloved says this is weird

[lone canopy]

And I wish the hood didn't delete my hair.

[faint heron]

we all bald now

[hoary hearth]

THey fixed preacher's hair so maybe the'll fix ours

[dapper void]

What the hell

[hard breach]

What hair? (I ask, hairless but not beardless)

[drowsy fog]

anyone wanna come along to watch me suicide bomb 3 elites

minimize the risk of vet meddling

[faint heron]

can i do it with you? 🤣

[drowsy fog]

dont see why not

[hard breach]

Look, beloved! The siblings are banding together!

[lone canopy]

Literally turned the game on to check the store and everything is a gun/melee/1 curio

Why the game want me no staff

[ionic island]

I may be a lower level psyker but i also want the suicide bomb three elites penance done

😭

[drowsy fog]

103569398

[ionic island]

My psyker is like level 10 compared to the 18-ish of vet and 23 of zealot

I have yet to make an ogryn but i will i swear

[hard breach]

Funny when they try to say medicae

[bleak sonnet]

ogryn most fun class

[drowsy fog]

or eliminated

[celest oar]

whats the lazgun for gunpysker again?

[bleak sonnet]

mk12

[faint heron]

i still lose it everytime i hear that line

[ionic island]

just sent a friend request! I'm 45 Copies of Fight Club on DVD

[drowsy fog]

that seems excessive

[ionic island]

LOL yeah...

[lone canopy]

In case you lose the other 44. I get it.

[ionic island]

Exactly. sometimes you have friends that don't return movie copies

[celest oar]

suprisingly, i dont have a single one even though it takes me so long to scroll through my inv lol

[hardy lily]

With a name like that you better have listened to director commentary...

[hard breach]

Pox Hound elemi.. elemina.. grut it, Hound's dead!

[ionic island]

I'm gonna be real, my dad is the one that's watched Fight Club. I somehow haven't managed to catch the entire movie in one go

[lone canopy]

To be fair, your name doesn't mention that you at any point watch the 45 copies of Fight Club

[ionic island]

OH shit it's raining like hell outside my house rn

[hardy lily]

That's like putting your name as Yaoi Fuckboi and not knowing who Felix is

[ionic island]

LOL????

So true intra

[drowsy fog]

waiting on you eva

[ionic island]

sorry, loading into the game as we speak

we gonna vc or anything btw?

[compact cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051830729513898044/Darktide_cqm3e5AxxS.mp4

[drowsy fog]

we can

https://discord.gg/fQCw3BYf

[ionic island]

mkay! just lemme know the chat to join and I shall

[lament zealot]

bruh, from the trauma damage is "bugged" thread

the explosion circle radius doesn't even scale with the stat and warp resistance at 80% still generates close to 50% so what's the design intent for this weapon

[static epoch]

to gain peril 🤡

[past brook]

is anyone annoyed that the Force Sword's push attack range is absolutely puny?
the initial push has good coverage, but the follow-up that costs peril literally has half the range of a sword swing
sure, it has good stagger, but it basically only affects things that are in my face and... not much else

[lament zealot]

it's meant for single target elite stagger

[past brook]

eh

[lament zealot]

I feel like it still should do some aoe because it's risky to get so close to the elites

[hoary hearth]

Should I upgrade this?

[shut thorn]

Guy seems like a really new dev so idk

If that is their official stance though, time to use X lmao

[lament zealot]

The staff would feel infinitely better if it just sucked enemies towards the middle and had a different left click

[shut thorn]

Check his post history, apparently he has a reddit acc with the same constant grammar mistakes, prob might be dyslexic so I'm not gonna give them shit

[shut thorn]

Ppl have been saying this since closed beta

[lament zealot]

Let's hope for some buffs in the future then, I'm glad I saved all my shitty weapons like the lucius, revolvers... because there's a LOT of buffs in the upcoming patch

[ebon wigeon]

does everyone see the same items in melk?

[jaunty atlas]

hi ! thanks for your advices, i faceplant a lot less. antax void works quite well, but i have 0 dps on bosses though. i though BB would do that 😭

[ebon wigeon]

should i buy this? https://i.imgur.com/bl7SlsO.png

just hit 30

[jaunty atlas]

well .. the stats are quite low and the perks are not really interesting but ...

force sword is getting a buff today though

[ebon wigeon]

ill wait

[broken fjord]

Psyker brethren

Who has had their performance appraisals for the year yet?

Wait this should be in general - I'll post there

[raw otter]

we dont know if its really a buff tho it might be even a nerf at the same time
like the long push distance but 6% originally
now force sword does a short push but gaining 4% peril
there might be some drawback

[broken fjord]

For the 'push 7 people off of a ledge' penance, how did you do it?

[small hornet]

Worth becoming a jedi?

[broken fjord]

I've only managed to push 5

[small hornet]

Seems like an awful sword tho

Not sure if it's worth

Bad damage, low swing speed

BUT I can become a jedi

[loud peak]

Do different weapons have different rates at quelling peril? If so what's the best

[mellow crescent]

Keep it for perk exchange later.

[broken fjord]

The staffs mention a quell peril stat

[small hornet]

True, thanks

How would that work anyway

does it make grinding for blessing obsolete?

[jagged vault]

normal weps quell automatically when you swap to them, so you have the bonus of attacking while your peril goes down

[jaunty atlas]

well... perk exchange could come in 6 month

so ...

[jagged vault]

otherwise force sword is manual same with staff

[mellow crescent]

Roll a weapon with the perk you want -> destroy weapon to get perk -> put perk on good weapon is how most people think it will work

the grind never ends

[potent echo]

You still to get the blessing

[brave vale]

wait

why the fuck

is shop reset 10 hours

[jaunty atlas]

you stole from the shop ?

you broke pots ?

[brave vale]

?

[jaunty atlas]

zelda ref, sorry

45mn here

[west fjord]

it was too easy to god roll weapons, they wanted to make it harder

[celest oar]

maybe they saw your name and decided "nah, heres a nerf"

[brave vale]

i jhust needed to restart my game

left my client running for like 10 hours

[jaunty atlas]

but ... energy crisis ..

[worn canopy]

This is all my shop has ever been.

[unkempt parcel]

Rate the staff bois

[jaunty atlas]

sorry, not competent enough

but seems nice

[drowsy fog]

got deflector lets go

[broken fjord]

8/10! Friking nice!

[worn canopy]

My staff doesn’t have good burn at all

Everything else is good

[pine topaz]

Run and gun on flame staff is good

you can literally rush gunners and stun them before they shooot

or chase them down

[static epoch]

sounds great i want to try that

[drowsy fog]

I wanted blazing spirit tho 😦

[potent echo]

You can't get blazing spirit on purgatus

Unless you referring to FS

[soft prawn]

quell and warp isn't that great, but sheesh

[drowsy fog]

that's fine purge manages peril on its own fine

[shut thorn]

By bosses do you mean assassination targets?

[jaunty atlas]

yes, and monstros too

[shut thorn]

Do you have a bad void staff roll or smth

[jaunty atlas]

well yes, i'm lv 15

that's our mono dps too ?

[shut thorn]

Yeah psyker isn't very powerful until you get decent gear and feats

[jaunty atlas]

void is awesome btw. the power fantasy, the sound, everything is here

oh ok 🙂

perfect !

thanks

[shut thorn]

Also while it lasts, use anim cancelling on void

It'll help out esp w a bad roll

[jaunty atlas]

cancelling ?

[tidal adder]

Hey steam is a bit criptic, is the update online or not yet?

[shut thorn]

charge via right mouse button, press R as the bolt leaves the staff, it cancels out the anim so you can start charging far sooner

[shut thorn]

It's not

[tidal adder]

thanks

[jaunty atlas]

ROFL, nice ty

i would very much love to play psyblade

[jaunty atlas]

to complete the roleplay

yo what's with the rof oO

[shut thorn]

It's anim cancelling the release anim

via pressing r

[jaunty atlas]

nice

also you fit for toughness ? i don't even get hit a lot but a single gunner can chew toughness and allow chip dmg very fast

[potent echo]

I used to be toughness gang but now I'm health gang

[jaunty atlas]

hmm. with max curios and a +1 woud you can go comething like 200, it's quite low

[twin bay]

can anyone help me get my cliffhanger penance im so desparate

[jaunty atlas]

200 toughness with regen could help more i think

[potent echo]

Yea 200hp is easy to get

[jaunty atlas]

i'll try both, ty

[potent echo]

Toughness is a nice to have but health just saves run overall (imo)

You get more value out of medicae

[shut thorn]

its only 7, literally just use it at the end of a mission on a ledge or chasm logistratum

A lot of people managed it with 20 enemies

[potent echo]

Use your F

[twin bay]

ive been trying but bots keep on killing em

[potent echo]

Stand close to them

[shut thorn]

go to a higher difficulty

[twin bay]

i know all that

[shut thorn]

on chasm logistratum theres a spot for this penance

multiple vids abt it

[twin bay]

done it on three and people dont want to help or still just kill everything

[twin bay]

seen them lol

[potent echo]

You need a horde first

Not ambients

[twin bay]

bro i know lol

[potent echo]

You hear one spawn just run back to that spot

At least 20 will chase you

[shut thorn]

It's soloable

[twin bay]

i do that and people kill them cause they dont want to help or the bots do

[potent echo]

They can't kill them that fast on heresy and above

[twin bay]

never tried on that dont really want to deal with possibly going down

[potent echo]

You just finish and leave you don't need to complete the mission

[twin bay]

dont want to deal with the difficulty roflsauce

[shut thorn]

heresy is not difficult

hi intensity malice is worse than heresy

[potent echo]

I feel like there is some piece of the puzzle missong

[twin bay]

i mess up knocking them off lol

[twin bay]

imagine thinking i think heresy is hard when im goin for a penance and not tryin to complete the mission rofl moment

[pale pilot]

so what do you think is the minimum stuff you need to do heresy?

[shut thorn]

Why are you giving me sass? Going to a higher difficulty would fix your issue of bots killing stuff and people are more likely to help you out

[jagged vault]

imagine if the penance was 20 off the cliff instead

|| oh wait ||

[pale pilot]

i just 30'd all my classes and am wondering what i should have lined up before moving up to 4-heresy

[shut thorn]

Literally just knowing that psyker can push as long as they want

[shut thorn]

That's how I did it in closed beta when the difficulties were harder

[jagged vault]

same

[shut thorn]

Just bait them unto the little bridge, run around, get on the bench thingy, take FS out, F and then go forward to push off the rest

[jagged vault]

i just pushed them off a bridge then force sword

yep

[twin bay]

dont want to do the penance on that difficulty lmao

[shut thorn]

Ok? How is that my problem

We told you the easiest way to do it

[twin bay]

never said it was

[shut thorn]

????

Then don't ask for help

The horde spawns literally at the start of the mission, it takes you 4 minutes max to do it on chasm logistratum

[twin bay]

didnt ask for yours roflcopter

[solid lake]

Skill is more important than gear. Once you can regularly get through 3's without taking excessive damage, you're ready for 4

[robust geyser]

Anyone want to help me get malleus monstronum?

[shut thorn]

No one is going to help you if you're just going to act entitled and expect* people to do everything for you on a subpar difficulties where hordes barely spawn

[brave vale]

You asked for help in general and ur giving people shit for giving you answers, shut the fuck up holy hell

[potent echo]

It will be much easier tmr after private lobbies update tomorrow*

[brave vale]

Or a quick google search will show you the easiest way to do it

[wicked jewel]

Thoughts on how significant a buff this may be, siblings?

[shut thorn]

Don't know

Hope it's great

[robust geyser]

are u guys talking about cliffhanger? its 7 enemise now not 20

[shut thorn]

Yeah, most of us did it when it was 20

Idgi how he's struggling w 7

[celest oar]

i bet todays rations its just a VFX

[shut thorn]

Adding you to the list of people to blame

😎

[potent echo]

Yea lmao

[brave vale]

roflcopter xD

[celest oar]

i will gladly go hungry today if it isn't!

[solid lake]

If it's like the grenade gauntlet explosion it might make it a little safer to use in high intensity situations

[shut thorn]

I'd be fine with it even if it didnt do dmg but threw down everyone in a radius like trauma

At-least it'd look cool

[celest oar]

if the added it, i am assuming it did just add a force sword push to the special

i rather not get my hopes up lolz

[frank hawk]

So far nobody has been able to tell me when the patch is coming, is it coming today, if so when is it coming today, is it even coming today or not until tomorrow or on the 15th of next year, so what now?

[shut thorn]

I am getting my hopes up for the smart targeting fix

[solid lake]

Curious that they have said "larger" explosion though, I didn't realize it did one

[wicked jewel]

That would be enough for me tbh just some stagger protection so i can use it without the target being entirely isolated from trash mobs

[shut thorn]

means that FS special "locking" and bb might be fixed

[celest oar]

assume 0300 JST on 16th DEC

[stark snow]

tbh if its not a push that affects targets to the left and right, its almost irrelevant

[shut thorn]

However, a new(?) dev p much said that trauma numbers in v are bugged

Not the other way around

Bad ending

I just hope he's wrong

[celest oar]

maybe its just a vfx, like the blast we do when we finish off that animation

[potent echo]

Hey I was right

[celest oar]

now it gets a "shockwave"!!

[shut thorn]

Is that a good thing?

[stark snow]

tbh I'm happy about the heavy attack run fix even if the special attack thing turns out to be very minor

[potent echo]

Not really

[shut thorn]

this

[celest oar]

its okay, pyskers dont need to be good at killing, we just need to look good while killing

[shut thorn]

It was so clunky having to stop moving to heavy

[shut thorn]

Was gonna post this lol

[frank hawk]

what is JST ? Japanese time

[shut thorn]

As long as we look cool its fine

[stark snow]

yeah, and theres lots of times the vertical heavy is what I want to do while rushing in and charging up

[celest oar]

yes

[shut thorn]

anyw wheres my visor hood

[soft prawn]

is this any good?

[wicked jewel]

I thought this was a feature lol I never noticed

[shut thorn]

bug

:/

[brave vale]

no

[shut thorn]

eh its /okay/ but I wouldn't waste materials on it

And if thats melk store

[soft prawn]

[shut thorn]

No way

[soft prawn]

got it from mission

[frank hawk]

umphakathi unobuthi lapha

[shut thorn]

I had a perfect 380 modifier tac axe at 483 awhile ago

[true umbra]

Anyone noticed an increase in below level 10 vets in 3s and 4s recently? Having to be a mage tank for 3 slightly slow Rambos is really cramping my vibe

[shut thorn]

deleted it cuz I thought axes were shit

lmao

😭

[celest oar]

i am having fun being the lawnmower

watching the other 3 guys staring at me as i lawn mow is hilarious

[shut thorn]

in heresy, ya

[soft prawn]

wait, if im calculating this right, this axe would have 100% critical chance after 5 hits, no?

[shut thorn]

for sedition plasteel farming I only see lvl 30 zealots/psykers running dagger/rapier to clear it fast

[celest oar]

no

critical bonus is dmg

[versed karma]

Shits kinda messed up I guess. Mainly due to how grindy the challenge bounties are

[soft prawn]

[versed karma]

Means there's nobody willing to play 4/5's

Or even 3's in some cases cause of how stunted the systems are rn

[true umbra]

was spamming a level 4 to get my last two missions and get my nerdy goggle helmets but its been 3 vets below 30 in every single run : (

[celest oar]

i mean... i look at my massive diamantine stash while my plasteel is 0...

[shut thorn]

run sedition, those runs take like 8min

[versed karma]

I cant fault ya

[frank hawk]

lkfejasdüpofkqew+ä#poüfkaqeßrfqk3#+fcövpeqakfßüqwkflc+qewif´ü+PWKFDA?´=)RI!^"ÜORFDIUQ?)R^JK"ÜD=FAIQ´R=^"! ?

[true umbra]

need the 4s for the penance

[versed karma]

The design is whack yo

[shut thorn]

a

thought it was the x missions played

[celest oar]

forcing high level players to go play low level matches...

[shut thorn]

sanest most literate psyker

[stark snow]

damn I'm not sure I should farm mats to reroll the crit damage mod on my sword, or just try to save mats to roll a new sword 😦

[celest oar]

we are still not sure if we can replace perks, or just upgrade

[frank hawk]

that's reverse Polish

[celest oar]

yesterday's wording was abit ambiguous

[versed karma]

Its kinda of a death slope. The entire population cannibalises itself due to the reverse-ass grind

[cyan notch]

how much do u even get from low level runs

[shut thorn]

plasteel?

[cyan notch]

ye

[celest oar]

the same amount as high level ones

[stark snow]

oh I thought it was for sure going to be rolling to diff perks and locking that item

[shut thorn]

170? iirc

i dont remember

[shut thorn]

thats for like 8-12min of gameplay

[wise pecan]

I find I get roughly mid-100s plasteel regardless of difficulty

[true umbra]

it is kinda the snake that eats its own tail though because you get more plasteel for looking around the level but if you look around your run is slower and you do less missions so less plasteel

[wise pecan]

Down to around 100 if we’re just sorta rushing through

[versed karma]

Exactly

[shut thorn]

You have dedicated ppl running sedition for it, theyll find it for you

[versed karma]

I had issues with this in Trials in D2

[celest oar]

dismantle for mats when

[versed karma]

Nobody wanna play it unless you stomp lol

[celest oar]

dismantle for blessings when

[stark snow]

I feel like they will never add dismantle for mats 😦

[shut thorn]

Umm ackshually.. Hadron wouldn't dismantle relics 🤓

[celest oar]

my inventory is starting to look like a clusterfk

[true umbra]

anyone know what the pick and mix bug mentioned in the patch was btw?

[celest oar]

it takes me a minute to scroll through and i cant find what i need to upgrade at hardon

[shut thorn]

being able to do it in lower difficulties

[midnight berry]

then they better give something worthwhile to spend dockets on. Accuumulated half a million and nothing to spend on

[wise pecan]

Projected to be December, but given Fatshark’s record on upholding promises, I wouldn’t hold my breath

[shut thorn]

the funny black mask and hood

[midnight berry]

already have it

[cyan notch]

i thought it was the 5 different elites thing

[shut thorn]

buy it again

[versed karma]

I played VT2 a while back and thought this game was gonna have the same amount of decent design VT had.

I was sorely mistaken

[half rivet]

tips on how to play psyker at difficulty 4-5? your brain burst falls off so badly

[shut thorn]

I truly hope they dont make pick n mix require you to bb 5 DIFFERENT elites

[shut thorn]

Don't press G key, use staff and melee

[versed karma]

Avoid any high-density zones

[midnight berry]

well, i would say DT is cmparable to VT2 release

[versed karma]

Because you're fucked

[midnight berry]

somehow fatshark forgot all the improvments they made to VT

[shut thorn]

??

[cyan notch]

how do u avoid high density zones

[half rivet]

brain bursting is my favorite thing to do, so it's just sad

[shut thorn]

why do u even have to

[versed karma]

Had cases where 4's were only high density zones because the only Heresy mission was one

[shut thorn]

learn

[solid lake]

Find an ogryn, stand behind them all mission, have enough space to do whatever you like... Profit

[versed karma]

Kinda rubbed me the wrong way

[true umbra]

it was already solid with how buggy your brain burst is snapping to all random plebs just when you're about to finish the last elite

[minor elk]

Guys, really important question but which one is better?

I can only afford to buy one, oof

[versed karma]

1st one might help more against tight situations

[shut thorn]

bottom solely because of charge rate

[cyan notch]

discard weapons for more money

[lethal plover]

How's the new patch

[minor elk]

Discarded them all

[shut thorn]

not out

[half rivet]

surge stuff is pretty great yea

[shut thorn]

look at the peril

[minor elk]

Warp Nexus is better than Focused Channeling/Ranged?

[lethal plover]

Delayed shark

[half rivet]

i find personally voidstrike more fun, but surge it's damn good

[shut thorn]

focused channeling is a waste of a blessing

[half rivet]

how

[shut thorn]

shift+w right before the anim ends

[sterile sable]

what in the world is going on here?

[shut thorn]

R right after bolt is shot

[cyan notch]

i like focused channeling

sometimes i get shot while charging and then i have to restart

[shut thorn]

you can sprint while charging surge so idk if its all that useful on surge

Not like you need to full charge most of the time anyw

[cyan notch]

what has sprint have to do with getting shot tho

[shut thorn]

You can charge it behind a corner and then sprint out

[versed karma]

Stagger

[lethal quest]

any gyus complete pick n mix penance ?

[shut thorn]

you can also just sprint cancel into melee to push then go back to staff to do a quick zap

[cyan notch]

i know but when im using it in combat i dont always have cover

[versed karma]

Nope

[soft prawn]

[shut thorn]

eaesiest way to get it is to run damnation/heresy and hope for a pack of 5 gunners

then get teammates to not shoot them

🙃

[true umbra]

care for tranq bug too

[lethal quest]

i kill 5 elites under 10 sec and dont deblock penance 😦

[shut thorn]

were you on heresy

and higher

[lethal quest]

yeah

[shut thorn]

are you sure it was under 10 sec w/ bb?

you have to use kinetic barrage

[lethal quest]

yeah

[shut thorn]

idfk then

[lethal quest]

with perk for CD reduction and 6 stacks

[pale pilot]

what the hell are you doing to the lightning staff?

[shut thorn]

shift+w

[pale pilot]

keyboard and mouse shenanigans, i see

[shut thorn]

You can prob do it on a controller

You just need to start sprinting forward to cancel it

[pale pilot]

mhm

[celest oar]

Psyker have

1. Sprint cancel (surge 2nd, purg 2nd)
2. Quell cancel (all staff 1st, void 2nd)
3. Switch cancel (Forcesword lawnmower)

[tight saddle]

is there a 100% peril tech for void or nah?

[shut thorn]

Yeah it's the quell peril blessing

🙃

[celest oar]

In general,

1. Sprint cancel is used to prevent exploding at 100% peril, you sprint right before attack animation ends
2. Quell cancel is used to remove / reduce recovery frames, you press R the moment bolt / flame leaves staff
3. Switch cancel involves switching to a weapon and switching back immediately after, this is abusable on forcesword as it is the ONLY weapon that can attack immediately on being drawn

[tight saddle]

you know what I meant

lol

[shut thorn]

no

check is done before bolt releases

[tight saddle]

I only recently got a void so I barely started messing with that staff

[celest oar]

which also tells you how easily sprint cancel can be fixed 🤣

[shut thorn]

its an easy fix

the moment you sprint w/ the staff out, run a check

[tight saddle]

I was able to figure out that rmb cancel but couldn't find a 100% cancel so I assumed it didn't have one unless someone magically found one

[shut thorn]

whereas quell fixing would be more difficult

cuz it relies on the ability for reload to be prioritized for stuff like autoguns

[celest oar]

i just use this macro for quell cancel

if i need the secondary fire, i hold down RMB while using this macro

[jagged vault]

voidstrike staff best staff

poppin headssss

[shut thorn]

honestly for the devs watching this chat

fix the peril check but dont get rid of the attack cancel

for surge/purg

[celest oar]

quell fixing will be difficult because we are interrupting the recovery frame

[shut thorn]

its moreso to fix it they'd have to add specific code ONLY for staves

[tight saddle]

Nah, it's an easy fix they just have to swap the check order.

[shut thorn]

whereas R right now is the "reload" and it's set up so it's prioritized over any other action

[tight saddle]

It's checking the peril after the animation ends instead of before it starts

[shut thorn]

quell cancel doesn't bypass check

[celest oar]

thats sprint cancel

[shut thorn]

yeah this is an easy fix for sprint cancel

[celest oar]

for surge and purg

[shut thorn]

what I'm saying is, fix the check but keep sprint cancel for cancelling the attack

[tight saddle]

Just woke up read it wrong then

[shut thorn]

sprint cancel is a very nice way of getting to high peril for FS heavies too w/ the feat

[celest oar]

fixing forcesword lawnmower might be easy as well

[shut thorn]

you used to be able to cancel the FS charge anim to do that

[celest oar]

they just need to add a delay to attack on drawing it like all other weapons. Then it wouldnt be as effective

[shut thorn]

shouldnt fix it

it looks cool

[celest oar]

of course, that did make combat more clunky, but lets be honest here, who attacks 0ms after drawing it

[shut thorn]

and isnt something fundamentally busted

[stark snow]

or they could just buff force sword 2nd and 3rd light attack

[shut thorn]

did u forget what company is developing darktide

[celest oar]

yyyou actually think they are going to buff us?! HERESY

[stark snow]

reeep

no buffs for psykers

[shut thorn]

we did get QOL buffs

[stark snow]

YOU WILL NEVER GET BUFFS AND YOU WILL NEVER CRAFT A GOOD WEAPON

[shut thorn]

i just want

[true umbra]

You think you know game design please you get confused by having too many items in the cash shop!

[shut thorn]

qq click to stay

its not "powerful", running a diff wep like antax is more effective but it looks cool

[celest oar]

remember bois, we psykers dont need to be good at killing, just gotta look good while killing!

[stark snow]

I want, fs power up to just increase left click cleave/damage and have the heavy attack do what it currently does now

[shut thorn]

don't we all

lmao

[minor elk]

Surge Force is the most meta staff, right?

[shut thorn]

yes and no

[stark snow]

also for them to fix stam curios and/or clarify that they're actually .5/1/1.5 stam

[cyan notch]

probably

[celest oar]

surge axe is

[shut thorn]

depends on team comp

[celest oar]

but theres no real meta for psykers

we play what we want

[shut thorn]

I don't like 24/7 using surge

its boring

[stark snow]

I use purg mostly tbh

surge is boring af

[celest oar]

i am a voidstrike machinegun subscriber

[minor elk]

I main Purge

[shut thorn]

Surge can be fun but non psykers don't know how to play around high mobility surge

[celest oar]

but been using trauma and fs lawnmower lately

[stark snow]

I like vs, I just haven't rolled up a good one yet

[true umbra]

honestly with peril block I find it quite fun to frontline on fours not done many fives though. I'm going for that perk on a force sword that lets you block range attacks

then the mage tank will be complete

[stark snow]

deflector is fun

funnest thing about the class imo

[celest oar]

i was an axe user until we all found the lawnmower b.s ystd lolz

its like chainsword... except for hordes

[stark snow]

It looks like I'm slapping them all down with my sword too

the funniest is laspistol anim canceling though, sad its still crap

but it shoots so fast

[true umbra]

had my ogryn friend raging yesterday when I tanked a demonhost on a level 5 and didn't lose any hp

they are for sure gonna nerf it

[shut thorn]

Nah

[shut thorn]

Lol

I'm sure power sword can do it too

To an extent

If they mix in dodging

[hollow halo]

the infinite block is a bit ridiculous, they'll nerf that for sure

use it while you can

[shut thorn]

Cease

[celest oar]

i mean... theres ogryns infinite block with no stamina drain and snipers dont shoot through it

[stark snow]

THERE IS NO INFINITE BLOCK STOP SPREADING LIES

[wicked jewel]

I think Active Quell on all melees with psyker more likely

[stark snow]

IT DOES NOT EXIST

[true umbra]

yeah for sure I got all of the block and dodge penances in that single fight

[hollow halo]

my apologies, there is no war in ba sing se

[solid lake]

Doesn't the infinite block only work on non force weapons though. On FS, it's good, but not ridiculous

[wicked jewel]

yes

[shut thorn]

it works on antax because of the extra stam

[jaunty atlas]

even like that, it does not block the corruption, which is a big penalty already, i'm quite sure they're fine with that

[shut thorn]

and the high passive quell

its been like this since closed beta

[hollow halo]

i do hope they keep it, until they make the other feats a bit more viable/fun

[shut thorn]

if some new dev decides to nerf it, leave fatshark

genuinely

[celest oar]

if it wasnt because of the lawnmower exploit, other melee weapons way outclass FS in the DPS / horde killer department

[jaunty atlas]

it requires a lot more setup than planting your shield and waiting

[shut thorn]

The shenanigans with trauma staff was irritating enough

[celest oar]

even with the lawnmower b.s, an axe push attack / power sword still does way more than it

but it does give you a horde clearing option on the FS, so you can use deflector and the special attack, thats about it

[stark snow]

post baby nerf power sword at that will still do way more

[celest oar]

imagine if power maul and crusher are like the power swors

then only pysker will be stuck without a class specific horde clearer weapon

[solid lake]

With regular pushes, I find light spam on the FS does pretty good horde clear. Gotta heavy the armoured dudes though

Weave in some staff attacks if it builds up too much and you're golden

[stark snow]

we macro users here, we just lawnmower with our FS

[celest oar]

i like cutting down heads like i cut grass

[brave vale]

is voldemorte real

[celest oar]

lol i am reading darktide reddit right now, its basically a dumpster fire 😂

[brave vale]

are we wizards

[minor elk]

holy shit, the game just gave me a free Purgatus Staff after I swapped to Surge

The rolls are pretty damn good, sheesh.

[versed karma]

Anybody familiar with the slide move tech on Psyker? Is it for weapons with heavy thrust (Knoife/Dueling Sword) and forward momentum?

[minor elk]

The dodge?

[pine topaz]

You want the stagger perk and either run'n'gun or faster heavy charge for fire staff

[versed karma]

Slide Tech

[minor elk]

My other Purgatus has Run n Gun

But people told me Run n Gun is shit on it

[pine topaz]

run n gun is good on fire staff

and fire staff only 🙂

you can literally run at gunners and stun them with fire

[minor elk]

This is my other staff

[pine topaz]

you lock them down entirely

[cyan notch]

its just any weapon that has momentum on its attacks heavy or light

you sprint, do the attack then slide

[grizzled iris]

Conclusions have been made until the patch comming up later today.
Until I've made research and gameplay tests on the updates to the Force Sword Special I've come to the conclusion that the only
viable melee weapons for Psyker in its current state are.
Antax MK V Combat Axe S Tier
Catachan MK IV "Devil's Claw" Sword A+ Tier
Maccabian MK V Dueling Sword A Tier

Force Staves will still be in their normal Damnation status as follows.
Nomanus MK VI Surge Force Staff S Tier
Equinox MK IV Voidstrike Force Staff A- Tier
Rifthaven MK II Purgatus Force Staff B+ Tier
Equinox MK III Trauma Force Staff B Tier

Stay safe Warp Abusers

[stark snow]

viable pretty strong word

[minor elk]

The Mark V will basically be meta now? Yaaay

[pine topaz]

wasn't Mark V always meta?

[minor elk]

I spent so much time trying to get this

[sick kindle]

Ew. Meta.

[minor elk]

Mark V was usually not

[sick kindle]

Couldn't be me.

[minor elk]

Typically it's the axe

or force sword

with deflect

Mark V is more of an 'off-pick'

[cyan notch]

wdym viable

just use what u like

[celest oar]

i mean, some ppl swear by the knife

[stark snow]

yeah saying the FS isn't viable is pretty silly

[west fjord]

Thoughts between these two?

[pine topaz]

there's gonna have to be PUG friendly builds and NON PUG friendly builds for psykers 🙂

[versed karma]

In this case, it's only doable on which weaps? Not familiar with all the movesets that got forward momentum on their attack

[pine topaz]

NON PUG friendly = stop killing my shit i need 6 stacks for ultimate u fuk

[sick kindle]

The game by it's design ethos isn't pug friendly.

[minor elk]

This is why my main secondary is the MG 12

💪

[stark snow]

vld or bust

[celest oar]

oh look a deflector FS!!! with shitty stats

[minor elk]

Lasgun Psyker

[versed karma]

gaming

Kick everybody and report

[pine topaz]

NON PUG friendly with fire staff = i can clear horde stop wasting ur ammo goddamit stop wasting ur grenades and stop killing my shit i need 6 stacks for ultimate u fuk !!!!

[celest oar]

you sound like you are volunteering

[cyan notch]

knife heavy, duelling swords light (and heavy i think), force sword heavy, antax heavy idk the rest

[sick kindle]

I've done so much stupid shit that people have told me isn't 'viable' at this point. Like. Sorry? Devs give me something I can equip, I'm going to be using it if I feel I can have fun and success with it.

The appeal of the DS will be less if they nerf super sliding though, for sure.

[grizzled iris]

Conclusions have been made until the patch comming up later today.
Until I've made research and gameplay tests on the updates to the Force Sword Special I've come to the conclusion that the only
viable melee weapons for Psyker in its current state are.
Antax MK V Combat Axe S Tier
Catachan MK IV "Devil's Claw" Sword A+ Tier
Maccabian MK V Dueling Sword A Tier

Force Staves will still be in their normal Damnation status as follows.
Nomanus MK VI Surge Force Staff S Tier
Equinox MK IV Voidstrike Force Staff A- Tier
Rifthaven MK II Purgatus Force Staff B+ Tier
Equinox MK III Trauma Force Staff B Tier

Stay safe Warp Abusers

[versed karma]

[cyan notch]

idk what that is supposed to mean

[minor elk]

Can we just come to appreciate how the best melee from the "200 IQ wizard" class

is literally a fucking GRUG AXE

[sick kindle]

The MK IV DS has better charged attacks, has a cleave stat and you can still be just as mobile.

[stark snow]

there is what its supposed to mean and what it actually means

[cedar oak]

Hello psykers, whats the dump stat on purgatus? warp resistance?

[sick kindle]

So I'm not really sure what the point of your tier list is.

[minor elk]

If you're doing "the cheese"

MkV is more mobile

[grizzled iris]

I did not code the game, you can take that up with the devs xD

[minor elk]

Be cool wizard

Be 200 IQ psychicboi

use GRUG AXE FOR MURDER

[solid lake]

When the axe can roll deflector, I might start using it.

[minor elk]

I love it lmao

[versed karma]

Wouldn't this be easier to make a word doc excel spread sheet on this?

[cyan notch]

why

its just some guy giving his opinion

[grizzled iris]

This staff will stay S tier for a long time

[wooden silo]

Pretty cute

[drowsy fog]

and thats going out with a bang done, all thats left is pick n mix

[cyan notch]

i still need malleus

[drowsy fog]

im never gonna outroll this I just know it

[sick kindle]

Spicy.

[winter forge]

are there any +2 wound curios?

[drowsy fog]

havent seen any myself

doubt it tho

stack up to 8 wounds on damnation? yeah right lol

[winter forge]

i've heard people saying "i saw one in the shop before", but never a screen shot

[tight saddle]

I guess it's too early for Damnation runs, been hanging out with bots for 10+ minutes now

after requeueing multiple times

[cobalt bone]

Ive been chilling on malice to lv all my chars to max

[sick kindle]

It makes sense. Darktide has a fair chunk of the playerbase who has never touched a 'tide game before, or has a more relaxed focus on just the power fantasy aspects of the first few difficulties.

[split elm]

Worst part of playing with a Purgatus staff is holding a chokepoint, casually flaming mobs, then watching your Zealot run into the flames to smack the burning poxwalkers around

[cobalt bone]

Once i actually have The gear for it i go up there

[winter forge]

antax mk 5 is really that good? any blessing or perk i should look at for it ?

[split elm]

The one that ignores mass is insanity

[winter forge]

ya, ignores hit mass seems manditory if the weapon can get it

[split elm]

Kill one poxwalker and suddenly it’s a lightsaber

[fading shoal]

Me when not playing psyker half the time

The Eviscerator does the talking, and I do its walking

[split elm]

Yeah, the flamer staff will stop mobs far away, so sometimes the zealot will run off 20-30m to smack some 3/4 dead poxie

[fading shoal]

That's 1/4 heretic more into the zealot's collection of purging

[drowsy fog]

not filling your purging quota at that rate

going easy on the heretics are we? I wonder why that might be...

[fading shoal]

it's the spirit that count

[cobalt bone]

What Is the max % on where you can get the 3rd bb in?

[drowsy fog]

long as you're quelling before the animation ends, yes

[cobalt bone]

The Animation before i blow?

[drowsy fog]

before resetting stance from the bb

once you grab your head the only escape is F

[jagged vault]

97%

[rain jetty]

That's good to know!

[hot summit]

is this good

[drowsy fog]

no

[rain jetty]

Not for weekly currency

[sick kindle]

Not for melk currency, no. Not nearly enough finese.

[cobalt bone]

Stats aint good

[hot summit]

thank you

[rain jetty]

No prob bods

[drowsy fog]

we must bolster each other, sibling

[hot summit]

what does finesse do

[pure rapids]

sped

[drowsy fog]

crit and weak spot damage too

[cobalt bone]

Speed too? Wow

[pure rapids]

you can inspect the weapon to see what each stats do

but generally for melk currency

you'd want at least 360 stats to be good

imo

[drowsy fog]

save weekly til he offers a 399 lol

[pure rapids]

251 stat items easily pops up on the shop any time

[pure rapids]

true that actually

[mellow crescent]

@drowsy fog what map and difficulty did you manage to kamikaze three elites/specials on, sibling?

[drowsy fog]

uhhhh it was malice... which map

the one with the bridge you have to lower

[pure rapids]

enclave baross

[mellow crescent]

Dankeschön

[cobalt bone]

The Maps are so hard to memorize for me with those weird names and Same Assets

[ionic island]

I only know vaguely metalfab

[drowsy fog]

all thats left

[ionic island]

You got this bestie

I mean uh

Sibling

[cobalt bone]

Only Like halfway through im Like oh i know that map xD

[drowsy fog]

eva was there too, it was a pain corralling them to a close enough group

[cobalt bone]

That Sound bad With 5 Different elites oof

[pure rapids]

I got Pick n Mix first before I got Go Out With a Bang

[drowsy fog]

I had to take off kinetic flayer cuz I was accidentally killing them with my aoe brushing against them as I built peril

[ionic island]

God yeah it was such a pain to get em all

I think me getting the kamikaze penance was entirely a fluke

And I will gladly take said fluke

Because my god

😭

Pick and Mix along with "basically solo a boss on the second highest difficulty" will haunt me I'm sure

[brisk panther]

i got all 3 hats at the same time when i did go out with a bang xd

[severe folio]

theres a guy in zealot chat saying trauma staff is not bugged

[ionic island]

What's the final tier of psyker hat look like?

[drowsy fog]

how would a zealot know, you can only play one class

[severe folio]

i guess that mean they play psyker too

[river sand]

it is, the text says it should do more damage that it should. the actual damage is as intended

[ionic island]

Oh I love it

[fading shoal]

Hope today's update changes the penance to be easier

[ionic island]

It's beautiful

[brisk panther]

ye the red goes nice with the belt 🙂

[ionic island]

I hope so too 😭

[drowsy fog]

maybe I'll even attempt it

[severe folio]

when is the update rolling out

[minor elk]

ladies and gentlemen, if you spam equip on two different pieces of clothing

headgear

leave inventory

and equip again

[brisk panther]

they will change it so it becomes harder. instead of just killing 5 elites you need to kill 5 different elites

[frosty cobalt]

I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall trying to get psyker penances

[versed karma]

its working then

[minor elk]

It's possible that you appear headless for a while to everyone in the Mourningstar

[drowsy fog]

yep

[versed karma]

Do it more and you become IRL Psycker

[minor elk]

Just use bath salts

and crack

You'll literally phase through walls, trust me.

[brisk panther]

a good tip for pick and mix: go on like baross enclave map on heresy high intensity. on open area when you have high grounds its not that hard to get. do 2 BB, ability, 3 more BB. last feat at 3 is pretty much mandatory

[drowsy fog]

you'll do something with brains on bath salts thats for sure

[hoary shadow]

What s tour favorite duel sword ? 2 4 or 5 ?

[minor elk]

Some will say 4, some will say 5

Imho, I like 5 because of the longer dodge distance

[grizzled iris]

MK II Dueling Sword

[wet jacinth]

Me: Chain Sword

[drowsy fog]

someone told me force greatsword is in the game files its just not avilable

I want it

[brisk panther]

im using mk2, like the heavy attack pattern best. im always way faster than the rest of the team doing the lunge-slide

[jagged vault]

if theres a greatsword i have a greater need

i just want more than 1 force wep lol

[drowsy fog]

battlemage fix babyyyyy

oh game crashed, neat

[wet jacinth]

More force melee weapons

[jagged vault]

different slot :v

[frigid zenith]

I think the middle level penance skins look better than the heresy stuff, fight me.

[drowsy fog]

nah thats valid

was weighing bang vs malleus chest pieces

[jagged vault]

im gonna upgrade this purple in hopes it turns out better

🙏

we pray

[river sand]

those penances are actually pretty easy. for malleus you need a team that helps you. the others are easily done alone. pick n mix you take the mission where you gotta secure that trainstation with the aa weapons. just before the jump to the last fight you usually see like 10 elites. if its not all ogryns you can easily do it. going out with a bang just play damnation with surge staff, tons of oppertunities

[winter forge]

vs

[cedar oak]

2 shots on critical hit?

[jagged vault]

👀

that plus flurry sounds fun

give it to me

[drowsy fog]

people were discussing the other day if that applies to rmb or just lmb

plz test

[shell ferry]

Bloody. Why does this suit has the drip of a power armour?

[brisk panther]

im just glad i dont have to wear a robe as a wizard as in most games 😄

[shell ferry]

My guy got more tubes on his face than some mechanicus!

[brisk panther]

i got like 15 hs in one heavy attack yday. loudest HS ive ever heard and my squad was like wtf was that 😄 peril got from 65% ish to 0% instant

[frigid zenith]

Eh, It's all situational. Playing with people in comms makes them all and order and magnitude easier for sure.

[jagged vault]

if youre talkin bout flurry, its just from spamming rmb

not charging it

[drowsy fog]

talking about surge

[jagged vault]

[winter forge]

this decent?

[shut thorn]

The insignia for it is in the game files, not the model

and we dont even know if its a greatsword

or some normal force sword alt

It's insignia name is "sanctioned" so who knows

[drowsy fog]

still want

[brisk panther]

decent yep. good with almost max dmg and crit dmg. but not the best perk and blessings

[winter forge]

what are the ideal blessings ?

[shut thorn]

There's an alternative (skin??) force sword in the psyker trailer at 1:09

[brisk panther]

i like warp nexus and warp flurry (in the higher tiers)

[winter forge]

have this one

[brisk panther]

you want high burn, warp res and quell speed on purgatus. but its a purgatus ;/

for a purgatus its pretty good

[winter forge]

ya, i wasn't sure if it was a good staff or what the best staff type is

[west fjord]

Any ideas which is the better staff? Thinking about upgrading the blue maybe

[winter forge]

have these

[jagged vault]

oh damn it kinda looks like a witchblade

i want

[brisk panther]

imo void strike is extremely strong. but playing without a competent surge on damnation+ is just chaotic. so i only go voidstrike when we have another surge

[winter forge]

ya, i was thinking surge would be best for damnation

[ionic island]

I made the mistake of looking at gen chat again

God it is just

A fucking dumpster fire

[winter forge]

have this one too, but thought my other was better cause hitehr max damage

[tight saddle]

my dumbass still sleepy went to the shrine to consecrate items and thought it was Melk

[brisk panther]

the orange you have is almost godlike. imo dont swap tier 3 transfer peril blessing to tier 1

[tight saddle]

and I was holy shit how does Melk have so many good items

[jagged vault]

yeah transfer peril good

[sick kindle]

Surge staff fulfills the role that opportunist shields had on tank classes in VT2 - Giving your team breathing room from all the pressure armored units would put on from their much higher damage and time to kill.

[brisk panther]

ye i would go the one with higher dmg

[brisk panther]

ye. funny how the advertised wizard damage dealer is the CC-support xd

[runic hornet]

yes and no

[sick kindle]

That said I'm kind of annoyed that other classes do not have equivalent CC options. It's a crutch for the game and has fostered a mentality of 'If you are playing psyker without surge then you are throwing' meta slaving.

[runic hornet]

surge staff doesn't also infinitely cleave

[sick kindle]

I just want classes to have more versatility, man

[winter forge]

get to play palpatine

[runic hornet]

I mean surge staff is unique but ogyrn rumbler exists

vet frags exist

zealot stuns exist

[random wolf]

Zealots have the best CC in the game.

Their grenades.

[brisk panther]

if they just gave the power sword to ogryn they would make 2 classes usable again :p

[runic hornet]

grenades are clunky though

[random wolf]

Most just don't use them before charging into ranged hordes lol

[runic hornet]

they take time tothrow, they have delayed results

If you throw them any distance, you can get cucked by mobs walking funny and bouncing the grenade far off at an angle

you can mitigate this with underhand but that takes even more time to throw

[cedar oak]

it applies to both

[winter forge]

what melee do you like? i just read for the first time combat axe is best

[clear heath]

I mean it's less that the other classes don't have cc and more than if we try to deal damage, people will call our build a "shittier vet"

[brisk panther]

best at what?

[clear heath]

although this problem is worse with zealot tbh

[winter forge]

damnation

[random wolf]

Combat and Tac Axes have their niches.

[brisk panther]

at doing what*