psyker-class

[sinful bramble]

It has very distinctive whispering

[misty mica]

yea this ones spawn was

[sinful bramble]

And several tend to appear in darkness missions

[misty mica]

down a hallway you could go straight or turn right, he was like 2 feet down the right turn

[leaden pier]

and frost can show up on the screen border if you are close to one

[trail garnet]

Be like me, get really far in a heresey run, to conserve on ammo start head popping from a distance in the location that your allies have been volly firing into for the last 3 minutes, then suddenly you head pop a daemonhost and ruin the entire run

[misty mica]

unavoidable

im on difficulty 2 cuz 3 is too hard

dunno what word 2 is

[trail garnet]

Uprising

[leaden pier]

uprising

[sinful bramble]

Nowadays I only play on Malice or higher but pubs make Heresy and Damnation way too stressful

[misty mica]

i am level 7

[trail garnet]

If im running my melee kill contracts i do 2's just so i dont die from exclusively using a Dueling sword

[jaunty moth]

you dont havbe to complete a mission for contract kills load up a five endless hoad and go to town till done lol

[sinful bramble]

Or go on 4 because it's still bugged and ALWAYS has endless hordes

[trail garnet]

too many ogryns to deal with on damnation

i just need the basic melee scabs / dregs

[sinful bramble]

And hilariously enough 4 can have DOUBLE endless hordes due to the bug

[leaden pier]

just focus on melee or whatever while playing and youll get it

[jaunty moth]

all the hoarrd guys are dreg and scab

[sinful bramble]

Also team mate kills count for your weeklies

[cyan notch]

no lol

[sick kindle]

Worth using?

[drowsy fog]

Still gotta kill dregs at range and collect scrips

[severe folio]

in time

[jaunty moth]

4s and 5s really arnt that hard if people are equiped right even if the weapons are blues

[trail garnet]

Next week ill be sure to roll until all my contracts are range kills

[jaunty moth]

i wouldne theres blues better

[split oxide]

Can psykers survive Heresy if there isn't a team?(everyone is on their own farming speedruns)
If so - what is the loadout?

[drowsy fog]

Depends on you

[sick kindle]

Okay what would you say is worth going for with Voidstrike? I've never poked the playstyle yet, but have done all the other psyker staves

[jaunty moth]

in reality theres no reason to run higher difficulties unless u just want a challenge

[sinful bramble]

Depends largely on the map and loadout

[split oxide]

I can't - but it doesn't seem possible.

[trail garnet]

It only takes one net or one hound to end said run if you are running alone lol

[cyan notch]

more mats

[jaunty moth]

you can farm 1s for gear

[sinful bramble]

Also voidstrike is good

[gray island]

heresy

[sinful bramble]

Mostly for holding doorways

[jaunty moth]

i have 1000s dont need anymore

[sinful bramble]

But can be an OK sniper deleter

[drowsy fog]

It is. Watched a dude clutch damnation last night flipping all around the map with a knife

[sick kindle]

My ego demands I get, and have, Exterminatus Adept fancy frame. As is tradition since Vermintide.

[split oxide]

I see that - but taht's for bleeding-perk Zealots

[cyan notch]

sure but thats only for you what about other people who need mats

[jaunty moth]

i only need 2 more maps for that one

[severe folio]

gear drop rate and quality dont change no matter what difficulty you run right ?

[jaunty moth]

nope

[cyan notch]

who knows

[jaunty moth]

people think so but coming from someone with well over 200 hours of gameplay i promise you it doesnt matter

[still current]

why are psykers so weak

[jaunty moth]

they arnt

[still current]

when

[severe folio]

what is that pfp my man

[cyan notch]

u cant "promise" or say definitively one way or the other

[sick kindle]

Weak how?

[long wharf]

it is pure cringe

[severe folio]

pornography is a distraction we can ill partake in war

[still current]

i cant play this class man i be trying , managijng stacks and dealing dps plus peril

[long wharf]

clearly a heretic dressed up as a felinid

[severe folio]

dont manage your stack

[long wharf]

the secret to managing warp charges is to stop caring about warp charges

[severe folio]

your passive abilities will do that for you

dealing dps and dealing with peril is the only thing you need to care about

[jaunty moth]

yea quit thinking about it and just play the character and it goes smooth

[long wharf]

dealing dps isn't your concern, either

[severe folio]

honestly its not even dealing dps

its just peril

[long wharf]

helping manage hordes is

[drowsy fog]

Just pick your staff, you have 3 options, and go to town

[long wharf]

locking down specials/elites

keeping enemies off the rest of the team so they can do the dps

[jaunty moth]

why is everyone worried about dps in this game lol

[severe folio]

because everyone kill faster than a psyker

[dusky lantern]

I like my staff long and girthy

[trail garnet]

Imo running higher difficulties is just more fun because after a while you will just be plowing through every enemy in lower difficulties without a challenge, and while thats fun sometimes it gets old real fast

[still current]

i miss my zealot the whole time

[tight saddle]

because they don't know that Damnation is stupid easy and DPS doesn't matter lmao

[sick kindle]

My personal recommendation for talents depends on the stave. For purgatus 'burn the whole world' I do +4% kill in coherency + 6 warp charges + 30 soulblaze 10% stack on kill. For everything else? Kinetic flayer, since it procs every fifteen seconds and it becomes brain dead easy to get them without doing BB at ALL

[drowsy fog]

Then stick with zealot, you're allowed to have a favorite

[jaunty moth]

but thats cause the psykers job isnt to kill its to cc and debuff

[sick kindle]

And that's Warp Charges 101

[severe folio]

explain voidstrike

[long wharf]

if you think damnation is "stupid easy", then I think the rest of your damnation squad is sweating bullets

[tight saddle]

I solo quickplay

[jaunty moth]

moderate damage with stun locking capabilities

[long wharf]

that doesn't tell me anything

[tight saddle]

because premade groups makes it too easy

[long wharf]

other than possibly that you're a masochist

[sick kindle]

I dunno man. I just like joining high intensity lobbies with a purgatus since extra horde clear is usuuuually needed for them

[trail garnet]

explain my recon lasgun that melts any enemy it comes in contact with, hordes, specials, bosses, monstrosities only thing it doesnt do much agasint is crushers but i have bb for that

[drowsy fog]

I've started pugging (good lord it auto corrected to pegging) heresy just to farm mats

[severe folio]

guns

[sick kindle]

Plus the fantasy of setting everything heretical on fire is 🤌

[long wharf]

you play a psyker with a gun... enough said.

[jaunty moth]

damnation is not easy but it also isnt that hard if people are running the right stuff and playing thier roles right

[scarlet lily]

I just do heresy for mats cause they're quick and 200+ per run compared to like 60-100 for lower

[trail garnet]

kinetic flayer + high rate of fire = guaranteed proc every 15s

[severe folio]

either way reason why everyone is so fixate on dps is because

[jaunty moth]

yea i usually do too for mats

[severe folio]

dps means kill

[scarlet lily]

I have a gambling issue when I get high roll greys and blues, so mats come and go quick

[leaden pier]

nothing wrong with gun psyker

[severe folio]

and kills mean dopamine in brain

cc dont give dopamine

[gray island]

Finally got pick n mix

[trail garnet]

facts

[scarlet lily]

Completing missions gives dopamine

[gray island]

thanks pubs

[scarlet lily]

[candid mesa]

Yesterday I've come across 2 vets or either two zealots and we couldn't even push through smoothly until they're dead halfway

[jaunty moth]

dps means nothing in this game tho if u cant suvive

[severe folio]

you can only complete a mission once

but killing is forever

[jaunty moth]

and teamwork is key to this game

[trail garnet]

nothing means anything if you cant sruvive

[jaunty moth]

to making everything seem easier

[severe folio]

also that doesn’t change the fundamental fact

[drowsy fog]

Nothing means anything

[trail garnet]

Dps = more dead enemies = less enemies that can kill you

[severe folio]

everyone gets dopamine

you dont

because you cc for them

[scarlet lily]

It's not that simple tho tbh

[long wharf]

wrong

[scarlet lily]

Incorrect

[long wharf]

I get dopamine when I rescue teammates

[candid mesa]

My purgatus kills horde on damnation pretty well.

[long wharf]

or keep a horde at bay

[tight saddle]

meanwhile we're over here in damnation with grey and green lasguns at sub 300 rating taking out shooters and gunners easily. Let people use guns as Psyker, it's perfectly fine if they know what they're doing. A reason why people use guns on Psyker is because you're not guaranteed a veteran in quickplay and can sometimes run into a team that lacks the range.

[drowsy fog]

https://tenor.com/view/inconceivable-princessbride-impossible-gif-5806265

[long wharf]

or solo a mutant

[severe folio]

so is the flamer

[trail garnet]

support psyker is cool too, just dont pretend its the only viable way to play the class

[sick kindle]

People keep saying the recon MVIID is good to proc BB, but the ammo economy makes it quite terrible off of veteran. My personal recommendation for gun wizard is the KG MG XII infantry. Muuuch better economy and you'll still be getting those spicy kinetic flayer procs.

[scarlet lily]

It's not even really that supportish

[trail garnet]

I rarely run out of ammo with the mkvId, if i do i have brain burst to fall back on

[scarlet lily]

If you're unable to kill hordes or whatever with your weapons even at 4/5, you need better rolls probs

[jaunty moth]

if you use a gun on psyker your wasting the whole class

[sick kindle]

Okay, fun police

[long wharf]

if you want to use a gun, play a Vet

[tight saddle]

no you're not, but keep thinking that

[drowsy fog]

Purge and surge can both roll out flayers on cd anyway

[candid mesa]

Upside is you need no ammo for your staff. Its also piss easy to permanently keep the uptime for purgatus without exploding and its the strongest right now with the exploit.

[tight saddle]

not needed

[leaden pier]

nothing wrong with gun pysker

[trail garnet]

This is such a narrow minded way of playing the game, if you choose to do this thats great, but ill do whatever i please

[leaden pier]

people can play how they want

[tight saddle]

if you can't use guns on psyker, the issue isn't the gun, it's the person behind it

[jaunty moth]

100% are but if thats how u wana play thats fine u just wont be playing with anyone that cares to win lol

[severe folio]

so the dev

[tight saddle]

we beat damnation just fine with guns

[trail garnet]

I win just fine on damnation with gun psyker

[sick kindle]

The only thing that seperates gun wizard from veteran is camo expert, and if that ever gets nerfed I guarantee people will be saying it's a competitive alternative.

[sly rampart]

anybody for penances "Going out with a bang"?

[jaunty moth]

good job on 1 completion i do 20-30 a day

[cyan notch]

🤡

[tight saddle]

??

[severe folio]

you know with how many people saying “we beat damnation with this and that”

[trail garnet]

Congratulations?

[severe folio]

it’s starting to sound like damnation is pretty easy

[tight saddle]

what kind of statement is that lmao

[grave bobcat]

Damn massive gamer right here :p

[tight saddle]

Damnation is pretty easy even in solo quickplay

[grave bobcat]

It is once you get used to it and can cover the dangers

[idle shuttle]

my dad works at Fatshart and said tomorrow psyker can BB 2 enemys at once, 1 on each hand

[severe folio]

so why is it still a standard to measure anything

[candid mesa]

You do know a game averages 30 minutes or higher on damnation and that person flat out says they complete 20-30 missions per day.

[grave bobcat]

Once you kinda "solve" how the game presents problems its a lot easier

[tight saddle]

Damnation isn't about what loadout your team brings, it's about using the loadouts people did bring to the best of their abilities. Covering each others strengths and weaknesses while having good positioning and situational awareness. Your loadout doesn't mean anything in Damnation

[severe folio]

just fail all of it

[drowsy fog]

My aunts cousins dad's younger sisters nephew works at steam and he says I can have one chocolate if I behave

[zinc phoenix]

Vet gets the +15% ranged damage trait as one of their baked in things

[cyan notch]

NO!!! U CANT USE GUN!! I DO 30 MISSIONS A DAY AND I KNOW BETTER

[leaden pier]

lamo

[zinc phoenix]

Also they get +40% ammo as another innate trait

[tight saddle]

If you believe your loadout is what determines a win or loss in Damnation then this isn't the game for you, go back to FFXIV or WoW lmfao

[sick kindle]

Max warp charge stacks.

[zinc phoenix]

Not nearly as consistent as a flat 15% and lower to boot

[trail garnet]

If fatshark didnt think you could make viable builds with guns, they wouldnt have given guns to psykers in the first place

[zinc phoenix]

Unless you perk into it but then you lose peril blocking

[leaden pier]

i run gun psyker when i merely dont want to care about quelling peril

[severe folio]

it’s actually fairly consistent

and you dont need to loosen your peril block

[fresh reef]

True and based

[grave bobcat]

Btw I do 21-31 day so aww geez

[severe folio]

thats not healthy

[tight saddle]

well I do 22-32

[severe folio]

drink more milk

[tight saddle]

you just suck

[red basin]

are all penance cosmetics in the store as recolors? can i just level to 30 and buy similar ones with gold?

[trail garnet]

oh yeah well i drink milk, suck, and play 69 games ad ay

[sick kindle]

Only as consistent as your aim since it only counts for weak point damage, not flat ranged damage.

[grave bobcat]

20 of those were with me so its obvious i carried

[gray island]

well i do 23-33 a day and each one takes me 30 minutes to run

I just dont sleep

[grave bobcat]

I do it in 15 mins

[fresh reef]

Yes, but it should be noted that the tier 3 penance cosmetics cannot be bought as recolors

[idle shuttle]

sedition... less missions for the emperor??

[gray island]

boring

[fresh reef]

ie the Heresy difficulty ones

[tight saddle]

what's your loadout? I want to be able to do 23-33 as well!!

is it because I'm using a gun!?

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[severe folio]

its because youre using a psyker

should have run vet with staff

[gray island]

obv skill issue

[grave bobcat]

Fuck

[severe folio]

interesting

[fresh reef]

Technically, loadout does determine a win. If you're not comfortable with using X or Y but bring it because it's meta, you're more likely to sandbag

[trail garnet]

Ogryn with staff is the only way to play the class, tbh, youre wasting the class if you dont

[grave bobcat]

How tf can I speedrun if melk WONT GIVE ME 380 ITEMS

[idle shuttle]

rename the game "gonna check the shop"

[severe folio]

orgyn psykers

the hardest peril block youll ever have

[fresh reef]

Cassia my beloved

[idle shuttle]

theres a female ogryn psyker in the lore, Cassia

[grave bobcat]

its me

[severe folio]

amazing

[leaden pier]

is the deflector blessing for the force sword rare?

[tight saddle]

True, but people usually bring a loadout they personally prefer and are comfortable on. It's the crybabies that fail even when they bring meta shit.

[fresh reef]

💯

[tight saddle]

ofc there are situations that just cause a wipe

because RNG and whatnot

[idle shuttle]

a lot of females play this game, whats up with THAT?

[severe folio]

i got it yesterday

[sick kindle]

Good guns don't make good players. Good guns just enable good players. It only does so much.

[severe folio]

WHATS WRONG WITH THA

[leaden pier]

never seen it once

[fresh reef]

As one of them, idk. Game good

[grave bobcat]

I've been running melee only Psyker damnation for the best part of today, you'll all be fine

[severe folio]

keep praying

actually

[grave bobcat]

High Int Damn though

Wow

[drowsy fog]

I have fun playing it, is that a problem? Lol

[grave bobcat]

Thats fun

[severe folio]

melee psyker does feel pretty fun

[sick kindle]

Super sliding on a MK V dueling sword is my crack cocaine addiction. How did you know?

[leaden pier]

to my beloved or the carrion lord?

[tight saddle]

did you find a non mkv axe you like?

[grave bobcat]

DS

[severe folio]

also i didnt know cassia is not only an orgyn but also a Sister

[leaden pier]

super sliding?

[fresh reef]

That sentence be grounds for execution, sibling, be cautious

[grave bobcat]

My internet went out for an hour so I made food and napped for random amoun of time lo

[gray island]

heres my dueling sword

[sick kindle]

How do people NOT know what super sliding is? In the Psyker channel?

[tight saddle]

different weapons have different mobility stats, so you slide faster/further with some weapons

[grave bobcat]

because you're talking to probably your average gamer mostly in here

[leaden pier]

yea

[grave bobcat]

They're not always looking for tech etc

[severe folio]

im looking for tech

[tight saddle]

people come to this channel, don't know tech, then cry about something being "trash"

[sick kindle]

MK V specifically has defence as a stat instead of cleave damage and it increases your dodge distance. You lunge slightly with your light and heavy chains. So you sprint, light attack and during that boost in momentum you slide. During that slide, you regen that stamina you spent while sprinting while retaining your momentum.

[grave bobcat]

Good 🙂

[inner mortar]

Any gamepass players help me get the Monstrosity kill penance?

[severe folio]

is there a way to slide fast with melee other than dueling sword

[tight saddle]

if people come in here and ask questions we help them to the best of our abilities

[old citrus]

can someone explain the mk5 axe to me and what the appeal is. Ive yet to try it out.

[gray island]

try here https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1047907974271750185

[wispy pike]

0/.l0,

[sick kindle]

I'm flabbergasted more people don't know about the slide tech

[grave bobcat]

You can heavy slide with any weapon

anyway

[fresh reef]

You pretty much just spam push attack tbh

[severe folio]

i see

[grave bobcat]

Some faster than others

[inner mortar]

mkv is the only i use

[severe folio]

we dont have a force axe do we

[grave bobcat]

I wish

[idle shuttle]

i like it

[fresh reef]

Me want force mace

[severe folio]

good

[tight saddle]

Psyker passively has improved stamina regeneration, we have a perk that when we block it allows us to block with peril before using stamina, the mkv especially with a certain blessing has decent cleave and has a really good block attack, so while you're holding block and spamming push attack your stamina consumption doesn't matter since you can still block with peril.

[grave bobcat]

I think it s the fastest way to move regardless of weapon? But I don't have proof for all weps

[severe folio]

hehe force knife

[sick kindle]

🤷‍♂️ FS is dogwater for anti armor in higher difficulties and vents like trash compared to a staff. Not sure what people see in it beyond the fantasy.

[gray island]

with the kinetic deflection feat you can spam the block push attack without needing to worry about getting hit as often.

[leaden pier]

i recall seeing a 2 handed claymore like sword in the psyker trailer

[fresh reef]

Deflector, and that's about it

[severe folio]

slice good

[tight saddle]

So basically you just hold block and spam push attacks infinitely without being in danger because of it.

[severe folio]

feels fun to swing

[cyan notch]

do u mean stamina regen

[grave bobcat]

Since when does FS struggle vs armor lol

[tight saddle]

my bad yeah lmao

[ornate hamlet]

It’s the best weapon. It’s pretty clear

[gray island]

Deflector blessing with Deflector feat makes you invincible while reviving to all forms of damage except flame

[severe folio]

also

deflector

[leaden pier]

fs struggling against armor?

since when

[grave bobcat]

Ikr

News to me

[leaden pier]

i literally use it against crushers if they're next to me

[tight saddle]

light attack spammers struggle with armor on fs

[old citrus]

oh wow, that sounds awesome

[ornate hamlet]

Pox hound would like to have a word with you

[gray island]

push em

[sick kindle]

TTK is trash and removes your mobility. The amount of hits it takes to clear armored units is exponential with difficulty. Ironically it suffers the same problem that people bitch about with BB

[old citrus]

flashbacks to kruber spear gameplay

[severe folio]

you deserve to be pound by pox hound

[ornate hamlet]

Then you aren’t reviving when you push

[gray island]

u win this time

[fresh reef]

I'm starting to unironically enjoy wrack and ruin w/ ascendant blaze. Now if I just get a fucking 340+ purg staff

[severe folio]

i forgot whats wrack and ruin

[burnt python]

dueling sword go zoom

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-john-cena-champ-champion-gif-7685212

[coral valve]

3m 2 stack blaze on elite/special BB

[sick kindle]

My man. 👍

[severe folio]

oh

[tight saddle]

beware though, that playstyle is VERY popular but it does develop bad habits. It's popular because it's extremely easy to stay alive while killing stuff, but there are better options once you learn some techs and are good in melee. People who tend to only use the MKV axe with Kinetic Deflection end up with very bad habits and don't learn how to properly melee. If a good player uses it then it's even stronger, but some of us don't like it because the playstyle is fucking boring to us lmfao

[fresh reef]

When you BB a special/elite it gives everything in 3m two stacks of soulblaze

[gray island]

what blessing for the DS do you look for? its the last melee weapon im trying to get a decent roll on

[ornate hamlet]

Better habit then dying

[fresh reef]

Kinda shit by itself, but pulling off 8 stacks of SB is kinda cool

Combined with purg, horde go poof

[fresh reef]

At least that's what I'm guessing because the game won't fucking give me a purg staff

[severe folio]

well

[fresh reef]

It's been 3 days

[severe folio]

purg staff gives better sb

[coral valve]

It's very, meh. I want to like it but I wish it was more stacks to actually be of use

[fresh reef]

And the best I've seen in the shop was a 301 gray

[tight saddle]

As someone who commented on Psyker Axe said

"This is like a person with a broken leg discovering crutches and wondering how anyone exists without them."

[old citrus]

Yeah there are plenty of bad habit forming gameplay choices that are available. Bull cleaver for Ogryn for example.

[fresh reef]

You use SB for damage, I use SB to highlight enemies in Lights Out, we are not the same

[sick kindle]

That's not nearly as fast. Heavy sliding doesn't magically increase your momentum, merely carries what your output currently is.

[grave bobcat]

It's not to show speed?

lmao

[severe folio]

lucky headpop

[grave bobcat]

Man got offended by clip

[severe folio]

i

[tight saddle]

Just like VT2 regular Cata, anything is viable in Damnation and people use use whatever they want for fun. We try to combat people that cry about some things "sucking" and being "useless" or "trash"

[gray island]

lights our purge staff and SB is peak gameplay in the most fun modifiers

[grave bobcat]

my dagger also has like

[severe folio]

dont think hes offended

[grave bobcat]

30 mobility

Cause i haven't rolled a good one

Keep your knickers on champ

[fresh reef]

I still cannot fathom how people think trauma staff is bad

[tight saddle]

user error lol

[severe folio]

ikr

i love the feeing of it

and the sound

[gray island]

i think biggest complaint is the huge peril gains

[severe folio]

does trauma staff have any cancel tech lol

[fresh reef]

It knocks crushers over like they're fucking bowling pins

[sick kindle]

I'll entertain it. How do you usually find success with it? What would you say is ideal about making a playstyle with it?

[tight saddle]

The fact that Trauma's bugs have been acknowledged and are being worked on while it's already as viable as it is will only make it crazier

[sick kindle]

Genuinely asking, not criticizing. I love theorycrafting and effing around with weapons/builds

[fresh reef]

Not that I've found, but I also don't much like anim cancel tech

[severe folio]

oh

[fresh reef]

Just feels weird to me hands

[severe folio]

i like the purg anim cancel

[gray island]

my babies

[severe folio]

infinite flame thrower

[fresh reef]

Ayo bugs?

Like what?

I'm woefully unaware

[severe folio]

half damage of what it show

[ornate hamlet]

That’s profound and deep. I’ll have to contemplate it later

[leaden pier]

i feel like the run n gun blessing is only good for the purg staff

[long wharf]

crit chance is largely wasted on those

[jaunty moth]

How about this one?

[tight saddle]

costing more peril than it's supposed to and its damage fall off being too severe around the center

[fresh reef]

With all due respect and courtesy, die ❤️

[jaunty moth]

lol

[leaden pier]

ah so that's why i keep blowing myself up with it

more than other staffs

[gray island]

idgaf about the blessings. the only ones worth anything are terrifying barrage and focus channeling and theyre both minor bonuses tbh

[tight saddle]

not on surge with an extra secret tech (not the inf 100 cancel)

[sick kindle]

I need to test the time to kill between a low damage and high damage purgatus. I feel like the difference is abysmal. The stat screen says there is a 1-2 point difference between low and high damage.

[fresh reef]

I've more or less been using the high peril gain to my advantage with quietude

[paper trail]

there is also secondary action burning intensity under its damage stat but I dunno how much that increases burning damage

[ornate hamlet]

I feel like BB does way too much damage and it’s ruining gameplay for my friends

[fresh reef]

wheeze

[leaden pier]

truly a troll

[jaunty moth]

This one slaps toom

[fresh reef]

truly a lol

[drowsy fog]

I just want transfer peril and blazing soul on my purge. Even without transfer tho I tend to finish melting a horde at like ~30% cuz it just quells itself

[paper trail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-sopranos-this-guy-silvio-dante-vito-vito-spatafore-gif-24638091

[ornate hamlet]

Seriously. My veteran friend keeps telling me it’s too hard to kill targets because I’m just Brain bursting them everywhere

He can’t even use his bolter

[fresh reef]

[ornate hamlet]

I think he might quit soon

[leaden pier]

you can get blazing soul on the purge?

[gray island]

no

[long wharf]

does purge even hit weak spots?

[fresh reef]

just tell him to get over his skill issue

assuming you're being genuine

[drowsy fog]

It's hard to not hit them

[nimble needle]

He aint

[leaden pier]

i like having blazing soul on my fs

if it crits

at all

[fresh reef]

my beloved

[tight saddle]

you don't need transfer peril on purg staff, there is tech to let you infinitely spam rmb or lmb while at 100% peril

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-wink-wink-winking-rowan-atkinson-gif-15388297

[old citrus]

explain

[gray island]

if you animation cancel your surge staff into your FS you can proc the Blazing soul on the final lightning damage occasionally

[severe folio]

damn

[fresh reef]

can hardly pick up sarcasm irl, god forbid on discord lol

[drowsy fog]

I'm aware, I still want it

[leaden pier]

damn animation cancelling? sounds like a pain in the butt

[sick kindle]

That doesn't sound intended. Sounds goated though, kinda wanna try it.

[trail garnet]

Anyone who has a 500+ power level weapon, where did you get it?

[severe folio]

from god

[gray island]

definitely isnt intended, and honestly not all that usefull. but fun either way

[sick kindle]

Photoshop

[tight saddle]

before your rmb bar runs out tap forward + sprint to cancel it and it stops you from exploding, you will stay at 100% peril and can charge another rmb as much as you want and release it, then again before the bar runs out while shooting the rmb you cancel it with forward + sprint.

[leaden pier]

i got a 509 revolver for my vet from melks shop

[fresh reef]

worth an investment?

[trail garnet]

470 is the highest in melks shop for some reason

[static epoch]

mine are from emperors gift and crafting

[jaunty moth]

crafting from picking up a 370-380 white and crafting it up and pray to rngsus

[static epoch]

i think i have 4 over 500

[gray island]

kinda tempted to send this baby to orange for the hell of it

[severe folio]

give me

[static epoch]

on your psyker? 🤣

[sick kindle]

PSA that the VIIa consumes two ammo per shot. It doesn't list this information anywhere and I feel compelled to tell people looking to mess around with the gun seriously enough to invest.

[violet fossil]

gun psykers are a different breed

[jaunty moth]

Ive been thinking about uping this one just to see how it turns out

[drowsy fog]

Different sure is a word

[gray island]

i have one similar to that too lol

[tight saddle]

the BB at the end was an accident lmfao, but you can see that you can leave the staff safely to melee or whatever

[violet fossil]

WHY DO YOU ALL HAVE GUNS ON YOUR PSYKERS

[severe folio]

because its good

[trail garnet]

because its fun

[static epoch]

It's heresy.

[cyan notch]

ranged options are good

[gray island]

53 round clip is still nuts

[severe folio]

its sanctioned

[violet fossil]

infinite range headbursts

[fresh reef]

I tried it once. it wasn't as cool as shooting lightning out of my hands tbh

[cyan notch]

yea but that takes years to kill shooters

[drowsy fog]

Some psykers wanna be able to deal with snipers quickly or something

[gray island]

i dont need to live by ur rules i have a cool hood

[violet fossil]

but do you have a cool hood and mask

[sick kindle]

Wdym? Clearly these are gun staves that are chanelling the warp?

[drowsy fog]

That's an excellent point

[gray island]

in 4 more missions it'll have goggles too

[violet fossil]

oh nice! grats

I'd have goggles on two chars by now if I didn't spread all my time across 4 classes lol

[drowsy fog]

I still need uh... going out with a bang, warp battery, pick n mix

[sick kindle]

If the developers didn't want psykers to use guns then they shouldn't have made them equippable.

Their loss.

[tight saddle]

because revolver makes me horny

[drowsy fog]

Not touching pick n mix until penances are adjusted

[gray island]

yeah i've only completes maybe 120 mission accross my character haven't had a lot of time

[violet fossil]

I've just played this non stop in between my job, god help me

~220 missions in

[gray island]

high intensity heresy and a tone of gunners is how i got pick n mix

[violet fossil]

all 30 characters maxed, all steam achievements unlocked

i only have 2 armor pieces left to unlock

what am i going to do after im done

[tight saddle]

you see I waste all 6 revolver shots trying to hit a sniper and miss so I then just BB it, Veteran can't do that, checkmate metaslaves

[foggy whale]

write a dissertation i guess

[gray island]

the real endgame of min maxing shop rolls

[cyan notch]

when a default name rages at you for not using bb

[gray island]

Use ur utilities sibling

[violet fossil]

if it were damnation or heresy.. I can understand some frustration
but uprising???

what???

[lucid mortar]

I’m only playing this game until I’m able to be let down by Diablo 4

[sick kindle]

It is crazy how some people can have so much ego about how the game should work without understanding how it scales into difficulties they will realistically never see, let alone clear.

[jaunty moth]

new part of crafting comes out tomorrow supposedly but to bad its not gona work how we want

[sick kindle]

I hope to god that the game isn't designed around uninformed opinions.

[drowsy fog]

Imagine demanding bb thinking it's what makes a psyker worthwhile

[gray island]

how do we want it to work? tell me how to think please

[supple skiff]

room temp iq 100 percent

[tight saddle]

let us reroll both perks, not just 1

[sick kindle]

Right? Kinda wanna see what kinda headspace that takes. 👀

[cyan notch]

idk if he was mad i was using a gun or what lmao

[jaunty moth]

i was meaning the refine perk doesnt work like in vermintide 2 you can only re roll 1 of the 2 perks on a weapon

[sick kindle]

Must be nice being so disconnected from reality

[gray island]

nah that defeats the purpose of the shop imo

[drowsy fog]

Perks shmerks lemme reroll blessings

[tight saddle]

ah yes, the amazing wonderful shop I'm excited to gamble in every day

I rub my nipples before every shop reset for good luck

[jaunty moth]

lol

[grave bobcat]

So thjats how you get all those good rolls

[nimble needle]

Does it work?

[supple skiff]

asking the big questions

[tight saddle]

1 Deflector in 210 hours, you tell me

[jaunty moth]

oof

[supple skiff]

some folks dont have one yet, so my gut says yes

[severe folio]

the real endgame is convincing pub to let you 90 a monstrosity

[nimble needle]

Yo lemme give em a rub I haven't gotten one yet

[gray island]

idk man i just dont feel like people need to have Perfectly rolled gear so early into release. bad for retention. like why would i play the game when i have nothing to grind for

[tight saddle]

you get one, left or right? I need to keep trying as well, but we can both do it together.

[jaunty moth]

if it makes you feel better ive only got 1 defector in 263 hours

[supple skiff]

tried many shop resets no luck, second green I upgraded had it though

[severe folio]

real psyker moment when you csn convince people to do anything

[tight saddle]

I don't want perfectly rolled gear, I want gear with perks and blessings I want to try out FOR FUN.

Because good gear in Damnation isn't needed.

[nimble needle]

"Yo lemme explode on 3 elites"

"That's not the first time I've said that sentence ;)"

[sick kindle]

Doing pennances in PUGs is actively griefing lobbies.

[trail garnet]

depends on the penance

[sick kindle]

'lol die on three enemies' is probably going to end a run. Just saying, my man.

[trail garnet]

Charging a plague ogryn on an ogryn isnt going to grief anyone

[severe folio]

doing penance in pub is in-lore psyker rp

[sick kindle]

So is demanding your team not damage the boss for optimal kill, which gives the director more time to send shit at your team to kill you all

[nimble needle]

I only need to get Malleus

Then I'm donzo

[gray island]

maybe im just smooth brained about this, but i cant see the perk changes making that large of a change in general gameplay for a weapon. do you have an example of a set combo you want rolled?

[trail garnet]

I mean, if your team consents to that, who really is to blame in that situation?

[severe folio]

the dev

[cyan notch]

yea u cant even experiment with stuff the way the gear system is

[severe folio]

for putting penance in the game

[cyan notch]

just hope the shop sells what you want (it wont)

[idle shuttle]

kill elites with 2 dmg psych explosion

[trail garnet]

"hey dont attack the boss i want to do my penance" teammate: no. problem = solved

[idle shuttle]

3 of them

[severe folio]

me coming back home from work to check on the shop for a nice purg staff (it only have guns)

[sick kindle]

It's just bizarre that zany, nonsensical achievement style rewards are behind doing things that force you to not be optimal in any capacity. For their efforts to reduce toxicity, incentivizing griefing is a weird move.

[gray island]

even easier: get ogren with sheild to make a daemonhost mad in a private lobby tomorrow

[lucid mortar]

They should go all in on the sabotage and add a penance for launching teammates off cliffs with barrels

[sick kindle]

Which they've heard and addressed and will fix tomorrow. So the update says.

[cyan notch]

i dont think theyll change penances too much

seems like theyre just clarifying the wording

[trail garnet]

Can you turn off bots? cuz if they do more than 10% dmg to the boss ur S.o.l. without a 4 stack

[idle shuttle]

maybe the 23 grimors penance

[lucid mortar]

“Destroy 25 grimoires”

[tight saddle]

There is a lot of hidden tech you can do in this game and Vermitide with certain bonuses on weapons that open up different ways to approach fights or play differently. It adds variety between the same weapon type and let's you play to your personal comforts/enjoyment. This game isn't an MMO, it's not about good DPS or meta gear, it's a Co-Op game where people bring their own preferred loadouts they enjoy and make use of them by covering each others strengths and weaknesses. It's what made Vermintide 2 so popular, people were able to use anything, even shitty equipment to do the hardest difficulties.

[gray island]

honestly idk. i just did an LFG for it and ran a lights out mission

[trail garnet]

Also do you select demonhost because they dont deal dmg to anyone not aggrod on?

[gray island]

okay. but what does that have to do with the crafting system they're trickle releasing? from my understanding the part theyre adding is just re-rolling the perk which just seem to be damage modifiers. Thats why i dont understand why its so important that you are able to roll both of them or not

[grave bobcat]

Damn

We some essays in here

[trail garnet]

Witches, Chargers, Spitters, Boomers

we got it all

[gray island]

yeah cause ogren can make it mad and it will target them so your team doesnt have to worry about evading it

they hold up sheild and stay alive

[grave bobcat]

Huh

The irony in that I just got a 79% mobility dagger is amazing

[trail garnet]

What does the finesse stat effect?

[cyan notch]

hover over it

[grave bobcat]

WHy does its finesse

have to be so low

[trail garnet]

attack speed ah i thought so just wasnt sure, also cool tip didnt know a hover option was available

[grave bobcat]

Im crying

[nimble needle]

Aim for the face

[grave bobcat]

I don;t need more blood ymobility on my dagger

[trail garnet]

The tutorial does a terrible job explaining these systems

[tight saddle]

In Vermintide 2 we were able to craft any weapon, whenever we wanted, however we wanted, with whatever we wanted on them. This let us have fun and do goofy shit. In this game we are forced to waste hundreds of hours hoping get the one thing we want to use for fun, and the crafting system they announced is butchered version of Vermintide 2's crafting system. The reason why they PURPOSELY hindered how much agency we have over our own gear in Darktide is because they're now owned by Tencent and needed to implement systems that boost player retention. Logging in every hour to check the RNG shop to buy items, and then later with the crafting system, to also buy items to extract blessings, they removed player agency in favor of artificial player retention statistics.

[grave bobcat]

omg ketrh

[sick kindle]

Zoomies

[grave bobcat]

Show me a clip if you moving with DS

And I can show you the dagger now

since I have one with mobility

[sick kindle]

Okay

[trail garnet]

Tried using a dagger once, flew past every enemy i tried to dodge+attack into

[grave bobcat]

But Keth

Even more ironic -.-

The cleave blessing for Axe 🥲

[lucid mortar]

I’ve run out of shop energy I have to wait to care again

[silent coral]

15% ability cool down or 4% chance for warp charge? which feat is better at 15?

[grave bobcat]

Actually insane

[nimble needle]

4%.

[tight saddle]

on combat knife!?

[trail garnet]

I think I would use the perill = stamina feat if my gameplay involved alot of blocking, but most of the time (aside from the stray targeting your back) i can get away with just dodging

[grave bobcat]

No the axe I was using

And complaining about

lol

Literally listening to me

[nimble needle]

Other than stripping blessings will there be a reason to keep garbage weapons and curios around?

[trail garnet]

To clutter your inventory

[grave bobcat]

Shame the Axe isn't the best but it'll do!

I can run it!

[trail garnet]

Is there a force** sword that has a wide arc light attack?

[nimble needle]

There's only one force sword

The mkII

[tight saddle]

send me a pic of it

[trail garnet]

Really? i never paid much attention to the different types, i had just assumed blaze was only one of the types

[grave bobcat]

Sent

[teal cargo]

only one Force Sword

and pretty awkward move set

so i don like it too much

cept Deflection

[trail garnet]

Damn, but theres like 3+ varieties of power sword, why does the vet get all the good shit

[teal cargo]

really mopre than 1 power sword?

yikes

[trail garnet]

What are the 2 new weps coming out?

[teal cargo]

Ogryn weapons i hear

[gray island]

totally can agree with this statement. but also looking at the potential blessing for majority of the weapons there really isn't that much of a variety of blessing that really change the gameplay for them imo. most of the blesssing are just stat buffs. like im oging to use an attack that boosts rending the same way and an idential axe that boosts power. I think as this game is right now the build varietyt is really heavily dependant on the weapons themselves and not the blessings/perks

[trail garnet]

2handed crusher maul? fingers crosed*

[nimble needle]

Crusher and power maul

[teal cargo]

Yea and it's not like VT2's crafting system was good either!

This is just like cheap mobile game levels of bad

and its for no reason cos you cant even microtransaction your way out of it

[trail garnet]

That was never my experience in vermintide, usually it involved rolling the stats until i get 2 perks im reasonably happy with, if i got one really good perk and the other was shit i was forced to roll the good perk away along with the shit in the hopes that both would be good

[teal cargo]

All it serves is to troll players

It was hard to get perf stats gear except on reds

[ionic island]

this may be a stupid question, but any advice for the warp charges penance? I don't plan on doing it for a bit but having the knowledge would be nice for when I do.

[nimble needle]

Just don't stress about optimization in a co op game

[teal cargo]

and reds did require a lotta grindiing

But in this game, you can't even get the weapons you want lol

[paper trail]

If they add private lobbies tomorrow it will be insanely easy

[nimble needle]

I have like one of each at this point

[grave widget]

laughs in warframe

[paper trail]

you just go in solo and bb everything

[teal cargo]

I still havent found a Deflection Force Sword

[nimble needle]

Never played Warframe

[tight saddle]

This is where the different tech I mentioned goes into play, some of the tech works better on a weapon with a certain blessing, and then the tech isn't needed on the weapon with different blessings. meaning that the same weapon now has 2 different playstyles, but then other blessings will allow you to hit certain breakpoints so then you start prioritizing different aspects of a weapon's moveset than if you can other blessings, all within the same weapon.

[sick kindle]

MKVs don't parse as videos, hecc

[trail garnet]

I already have more hours in this game than i ever did in warframe

[teal cargo]

Warframe is fun but not this frustratin to get gear

and I played a ton of Warframe

[grave bobcat]

just change the type

[trail garnet]

142 hours and i sitll dont have any 500+ weapons

[gray island]

can i have an example of these techs? just saying they're there isnt really helpful for me seeing what you want

[grave widget]

real lmao

[drowsy fog]

If you've never played warfare don't start. Feature creep has made it such a behemoth for newcomers

[grave widget]

ong

they're coming out with a new one soon

soulframe

[tight saddle]

Yeah for reals, we all thought Vermintide 2's crafting system was dogshit, but now that we see what Darktide's is going to be it makes VT2's seem like paradise in comparison lmfao

[jaunty moth]

263 hours and only have two 500+ weapons

[grave widget]

if you're curious i'd prolly jump into that

[nimble needle]

Maintaining them? Yeah get psychic communion and kinetic barrage and spam brain burst like the entire time. If the charges are about to drop off use F ability and cast fast BB

[teal cargo]

yea congrats Fatshark you make VT2 sitting there watching that shchunk animation while rerolling feel good

Darktide it's literally just be on 24/7 and hope you get a good weapon

[drowsy fog]

So who wants to load up some vt2 tonight lol

[grave bobcat]

lmao

[grave widget]

i wanna be able to slot perks like ff7 materia but that seems a lil too easy

[sick kindle]

Jesus christ

[drowsy fog]

Dibs on kerilian

[grave bobcat]

Weird

[teal cargo]

Sienna

[gray island]

there are 3 psyker feats that help keep your warp charges up.
level 15 Psychic Communion gives a 4% chance to get a warp on allys killing enemies, including hordes.
level 25

kinetic Flayer gives 10% chance to active brain busrt to build stacks

[teal cargo]

i got it by accident just with Kinetic Flayer and Communion

[nimble needle]

I did it with the 6 charges one but kinetic flayer would have been easier

[ionic island]

I see I see

[teal cargo]

just don't run a level 30 perk that uses your charges

[gray island]

and level 30 kinetic barrage so when you press F you dont expend your charges

[drowsy fog]

Love whenever flayer would go off when I'm meleeing a random mook

[teal cargo]

i got it prior to level 30

[leaden pier]

kinetic flayer is 10%?

[teal cargo]

yep

[ionic island]

Thank you my psyker siblings

[teal cargo]

10% every 15 s

[ionic island]

I will keep this in mind once I hit those levels

[tight saddle]

some simple ones for example would be force sword light cancel or heavy cancel, normally people use push light heavy on fs for hordes, but if you have a certain blessing or two then light cancel goes crazy, and with other blessings the heavy cancel becomes better than the special charge to kill certain elites or combination of elites in a pack with a different combination of perks. This is assuming on a non-deflector force sword with certain blessings.

[nimble needle]

Love you

[leaden pier]

oh thought it was 15

[gray island]

You can also complete the penance before hitting level 30 which is nice too. just sstick with brain bursts as often as possible. you can alway brain pburst below 96% peril

[teal cargo]

its 15s cooldown

[leaden pier]

yea

[teal cargo]

but you proc it a lot with Surge and Purg staff

[bright pike]

Gun Psyker > Staff Psyker

[teal cargo]

☠️

[fresh reef]

Burning everything is very, very fun

[teal cargo]

Almost as heretical as Loner

[grave widget]

every time i see that number it gets lower. is it 96, 97, or 98?

[fresh reef]

Anything negative I ever said about purg staff, I take it back

[nimble needle]

Having to fight for ammo 🤮

[gray island]

i perfer to say a lower number to be safer

[drowsy fog]

Purg staff my beloved

[teal cargo]

idk I BB after manual quell for like shortest time possible

and don blow up

[flint spindle]

cringe psykers

[grave widget]

yeah i usually go from 98

[gray island]

that range is pretty insigificant considering the fraction of a second to quell between 98-95

[tight saddle]

For those of you who are purg deniers or purg haters have this treat again so you can learn how to truly burn heretics. (I still personally don't care for it, though lol)

[teal cargo]

yea i havent notiiced either way

[fresh reef]

welp, time to wait until we can reroll blessings lol

[gray island]

Found u

[severe folio]

too bad they already got your money

[grave widget]

also idk if any of y'all don't already know this but as soon as i learned you could use your ability in the middle of the head hurty animation psyker got way easier

[teal cargo]

Havent gotten my money for cosmetics

[cyan notch]

yea get out of jail free card

[teal cargo]

😔

[drowsy fog]

Lol head hurty

[jaunty moth]

yea i have one of each and thats all im waiting for as well.

[tight saddle]

but not any future money, I got my worth from just the gameplay loop

[fresh reef]

imagine ever going into head hurty animation
couldnt be me

[teal cargo]

yep you can vent off

[drowsy fog]

Too much passive quell

[gray island]

switch to FS that'll fix it

[teal cargo]

By my incomprehensible mind!

[leaden pier]

wait was the psyker originally supposed to have access to the heavy swords that zealot has?

[sick kindle]

https://streamable.com/es3i77 DS light attack zoomies, finally. Don't have Nitro so file sizes for the video weren't playing nice.

[severe folio]

between these which one should i get

[sick kindle]

Streamable should still embed though

[teal cargo]

tf is that?

[drowsy fog]

Isn't corruption resist bugged?

[jaunty moth]

curio

[grave widget]

psyker with assault chainsword for when thinking gets too hard

[tight saddle]

neither

[grave bobcat]

Ohhh you use light, I always use heavy cause its easeir lol

Lemmy practice

[static epoch]

i practiced both light is easier 😄

[gray island]

I’d pick the curio but it’s only cause I’m greedy and only want weapons in the 350+ range without modifiers

[severe folio]

i see

[gray island]

And even then curio is iffy.

[jaunty moth]

yea but they asked between the two

i got lucky with my curios thankfully

[teal cargo]

Antax axe is real easy to use

with Kinetic Deflect

[sick kindle]

The main point of the tech I just posted is to keep your stamina while using a high mobility weapon.

[drowsy fog]

Cop just drove by with the lights on what did you do siblings

[severe folio]

is there a limit to how much +wound you can get from curio

[sick kindle]

It has actual value to learn how to do during runs.

[grave widget]

btw is there ever a use case for force sword charged heavy vs charged light? the damage is almost the same from what i've tested but i'm wondering if it has a niche or something

[severe folio]

like if you get 3 curios with +wound do you just get 3 extra

[sick kindle]

It is a get out of jail free card when you're pinned in nasty spots.

[fresh reef]

Warp Charges would be a lot better if they were generated on all warp attack kills

see AB Purgatas for evidence

[jaunty moth]

ive never seen anything higher then +1 wound

[severe folio]

without the need for skills

[gray island]

Only can get 1 wound off curios

[severe folio]

i mean if you stack 3 of them

oh

[teal cargo]

yes you have 5 wounds on heresy

[drowsy fog]

Also if they did more than 3% damage buff

[severe folio]

i mean

i see

alright

[teal cargo]

honestly I'd prob do 2 hp and 1 wound

if rng shop will give me a good hp roll

😔

[grave bobcat]

I don't think Ive ever noticed my stamina going down

[fresh reef]

I really don't get why it isn't a 5% per. Like who tf came up with 3%

[tight saddle]

wounds aren't that good unless you're learning the game and need the safety net, but you should be building your character so you don't go down instead of expecting to go down.

[severe folio]

i honestly have no idea how to even consider curio

[grave widget]

also are warp charge buffs additive or multiplicative

[severe folio]

i think additive

i hope its additive

if its multi lol

fukin bullshit

[grave widget]

i mean to each other

[drowsy fog]

Buff bb buff warp charges, that's all psyker really needs

[severe folio]

yes

i know

[teal cargo]

fair but being able to go down and not be almost dead helps a lot and all

[grave widget]

then why hope additive

[teal cargo]

1 down and then dead is a bit harsh between Medicaes

[grave widget]

1.03^4 > 1.12

right?

[severe folio]

is this stat ok

[teal cargo]

i think its additive to each other

so 3 is 112%

[severe folio]

worth getting ?

[teal cargo]

4 is 12%*

[fresh reef]

as for BB buffs, I honestly think it's fine in the damage department. Just make it as fast as that one level 30 talent, with a way to hold a charge with right click cuz as is it's borderline useless, it'd be flawless

[teal cargo]

yea right clikc needs to be changed

[tight saddle]

most people that regularly do Damnation in quickplay don't bring wounds, though. Maybe 1 extra if they're scared, but anymore than that is losing a lot of good stats on your curious.

[naive dawn]

Kinda low stats overall. I wouldn't recommend upgrading a weapon below 355.

[teal cargo]

I'd take one, and not like I have good stats on curios anyways

[jaunty moth]

This will be fun to play with

[fresh reef]

it just needs to not infinitely build peril. would be totally fine if it could have peril charge capped at 20, upping to 45 whenever the first actually went off

[drowsy fog]

I mean everything but the quell speed is good but like... on a void lol

[teal cargo]

like I got nonsense liike extra Ordos and xp

[fresh reef]

instantaneous 1k damage without having to aim? yes please

[drowsy fog]

Doesn't void kinda need to quell

[teal cargo]

Void doesnt need to with a weak point quell perk

[severe folio]

gotcha

[naive dawn]

Purg and void don't need quell as badly as surge

[teal cargo]

i guess rn tbf

[drowsy fog]

Purg hardly ever needs to quell

[fresh reef]

and definitely not as badly as trauma

[grave widget]

which works with a charged ball through a hoard :)

[teal cargo]

you can fire Purg continuously at 100 peril too

[drowsy fog]

And the staff they showed is gray so hey there's hope

[naive dawn]

Trauma needs a rework or tuning I can't find it's use.

[tight saddle]

surge and purg doesn't need quell, you can infinitely rmb at 100% peril

[fresh reef]

there's two types of void users
one thinks it's a bowling ball, the other thinks it's a very angry bubble

[teal cargo]

its harder though than Purg

since gotta sprint cancel it

[grave widget]

it is in fact both

[fresh reef]

just needs to have its bugs fixed then its golden

[teal cargo]

and then you arent ccing as much

[drowsy fog]

Shout out to purgatus force staff gotta be one of my favorite genders

[teal cargo]

👀

[fresh reef]

ong

[grave widget]

purgatus my beloved

[naive dawn]

I wish purgatory lmb was the same as all the other staffs

[drowsy fog]

Got that sweeeeeet 80% cloud radius on mine

[drowsy fog]

That would be nice

[grave widget]

i actually like the little burst

decent cc while you charge rmb

[drowsy fog]

I bought it like this 🙂 the blessing it got after going purple was warp flurry

[naive dawn]

Yeh it's just that you lose all long range functionality besides bb

[grave widget]

yeah

[naive dawn]

That's huge, damage doesn't matter on purg that much it only effects thr initial first hit

[teal cargo]

better than Zealot with Flamer

[naive dawn]

Which goes up like only 1 or 2 points

[teal cargo]

where you just cower when theres a big shooter pack

[fresh reef]

all staves should have unique m1s, imo
keep trauma's as a basic fireball
have void's pierce
surge should be a bolt

absolutely no idea for purg

[grave widget]

it does also affect the rate that soulflame stacks

[naive dawn]

Is that from damage or burn?

[grave widget]

damage i think

[tight saddle]

who needs quell on surge?

[naive dawn]

I thought that was burn

[grave widget]

it's weird and unintuitive

[drowsy fog]

It'd be nice if they were all that high but hey I got lucky enough with those rolls

[naive dawn]

Yeh

[grave widget]

burn is max stacks and duration iirc

[drowsy fog]

Doubt I'm gonna find anything better in the next year

[grave bobcat]

I cba learning the light slide -.-

[naive dawn]

Yeh but that's a bug

[jaunty moth]

damage is burning intensity

[grave bobcat]

the window is small either way

[grave widget]

which is stack rate

[tight saddle]

and until it's fixed we don't need quell

[grave bobcat]

Dsitance covered is the same int he amount of time

[static epoch]

i think... sliding... it's an invaluable skill

less likely to be targeted, move faster, take less toughness damage

some weapons you can infinitely avoid a horde

[drowsy fog]

Now I only check staves in the shop in an ironic hope for a perfect purge lol

[teal cargo]

You also don cc as long

[tight saddle]

you cc just as long

[drowsy fog]

Otherwise I'm looking for a deflector fs

[teal cargo]

uhhh no you don

and I don think you chain to as many people

[tight saddle]

only if you do it instantly, if you wait half a second or so it CC's just as many

[teal cargo]

after all you only cc as long as until you cancel it

compared to the whole duration

[tight saddle]

what's more CC than infinite CC?

infinity +1?

[tight saddle]

no you don't

[drowsy fog]

So who's down for hopping in quickplays tonight with 3 psykers and screw with the vets lol

[teal cargo]

what you mean?

[split oxide]

the psyker force-sword blows... I might as well be slapping them with a straw.

[teal cargo]

like idk I don think you can stun off a mutant doing this

[drowsy fog]

Fs is good for one shotting elites, really all I use it for

Also melting bosses

[teal cargo]

and bosses yea

but pretty awkward at horde clears oof

but im not very good at the whole light + Heavy cancel

[drowsy fog]

Chain sword can do it too but like... matter of taste I guess

[teal cargo]

Chain Sword has nice heavies for cleaving hordes

so i kinda like the moveset better

[tight saddle]

you're spamming the CC while canceling faster than it can ever recover and it's CC'd again as soon as it recovers, they're permanently CC'd. While canceling fast you are doing more DPS on top of them being permanently CC'd.

[drowsy fog]

I like the concept of fs more

[teal cargo]

idk ive also blown up when I couldn't sprint forward trying to do this 😆

[drowsy fog]

I'm not here to do cancel tech this isn't smash lol

[tight saddle]

if you instantly cancel it will always CC 2 enemies, if you wait 0.25-0.5 of a second it will CC all the targets like normal.

[teal cargo]

idk if its like being shot or something

but if something prevents you from sprinting then no cancel and you blow up 😢

[tight saddle]

practice in the Meat Grinder! you just need to tap W+Sprint, you don't need to actually sprint.

[teal cargo]

Purg you can cancel with R so thas nice

i don really wanna practice since this also feels like a bug

[teal needle]

It's a Fatshark bug might be in for another 2 years

[teal cargo]

true true

Maybe we still have this shitty store in 2 years

andd CRafting will still be coming soon

[tight saddle]

and then when they fix it they'll probably break something else that'd be even stronger lmao

[paper trail]

what is this? weapon swapping to cancel surge?

[teal cargo]

you sprint to cancel surge

[paper trail]

ah ok

[teal cargo]

but Purg can be cancelled by tapping quell

so a lot more convenient to do imo

[paper trail]

I mean its still building peril faster though too reusing it

isnt it?

[teal cargo]

no you stay at 100

tap quell to stop firing the purg

[paper trail]

yeah thats definitely broken lol

[teal cargo]

and then you cna charge up and fire again

[tight saddle]

purg

[teal cargo]

and never blow up

[paper trail]

Ive seen that one but I don't really like purg myself

[tight saddle]

same I don't like purg lol

[teal cargo]

Purg doesnt really generate enough peril

that you need to be doing this

[tight saddle]

but I show it to purg enjoyers and deniers so they can burn more heretics

[drowsy fog]

Don't like purge? How dare

[nimble needle]

Voidstrike mafia

[teal cargo]

Surge would be useful but idk i blown myself up a lot when i was at high peril and trying to sprint cancel 😆

[drowsy fog]

But yeah purge takes a while to risk blowing up anyway

[paper trail]

I really enjoyed voidstrike for farming but at higher difficulties it feels a bit weak for me

[teal cargo]

so i don really try it anymore either

😔

[paper trail]

If I could get the void I want I would def try it again

[long wharf]

void is for reliably clearing groups

[paper trail]

but I can't lol

[teal cargo]

Void idk I don like aiming

but it is versatile

[nimble needle]

Yeah it's only really useful for hordes in hallways and there are probably better tools

[teal cargo]

I also havent gotten one with weakspot quell

so yea

or a high stat one

cos rng do be like that

[paper trail]

I dont even want that I just want one built for pure damage rather than quell or barrage

two damage perks and two damage blessings

[fresh reef]

Dear veteran players
You claim that you are the best class, yet a full team of half decent psykers trivializes the game

Curious

[tight saddle]

Void's strength is that it is more versatile, but it's not better at one thing than other staffs other than killing super far away targets.

[grave bobcat]

@toxic temple I don't wanna practice the light slide now so just gonna show you the heavy swing since I can do it more realiably. It covered the same distance at the same time anyway.

[teal cargo]

yea you can kill far away targets but you also have BB for that and need to aim ugh

[tight saddle]

Void doesn't clear hordes as fast as purg while purg can also hard CC elites inside a horde with the lmb cancel, unless void is sitting still in a hallway

void can CC, but it can't CC as well as surge and trauma

[grave bobcat]

It can prob be done better but meh

its reliable

[tight saddle]

Void's strength is versatility

[paper trail]

If trauma sucked people inwards towards the centre as its CC I would use it

[fresh reef]

Inb4 trauma bad

[teal cargo]

If Trauma left like a DoT behind

or cost less peril

[paper trail]

burning warp flames on the ground would be cool yeah

[teal cargo]

Nobody plays Damnation 😢

[tight saddle]

nah, that's suck tbh, right now you can choose when and where to displace threats and put them in a more convenient location

[grave bobcat]

Yes I do

[nimble needle]

It should make the baddies caught in it levitate

[grave bobcat]

scuse you

[teal cargo]

idk

always get droppepd into empty lobbies

[grave bobcat]

I'm gonna go play it rn even

Actually

I want food first

[paper trail]

true but I don't really want that so I don't use it I hate scatter most of the time

[teal cargo]

see?

😔

[nimble needle]

Grab me some would ya

[tight saddle]

cal and I carried 2 bots in Damnation lmfao

[grave bobcat]

Arya I have seen some quiestionable shit from you lol

[paper trail]

I like things all herded nicely into a pile lol

[teal cargo]

👀

questionable?

[drowsy fog]

Trauma should suppress to simulate actually traumatizing the enemy

[grave bobcat]

Where are you in NA?

[teal cargo]

CST

[nimble needle]

NY

[grave bobcat]

Central/East COast

[teal cargo]

central

[tight saddle]

remember that vet that was worse than the bot and the bot that replaced him mid mission? @grave bobcat

[grave bobcat]

Ugh

[drowsy fog]

Yikes

[teal cargo]

why?

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I have a clip of him blowing me up lmfao

[teal cargo]

Whats this questionable things you talk about?

[grave bobcat]

I'm not feeding into you lol

Im gonna go get food

[teal cargo]

🤔

[drowsy fog]

Ooo food, you reminded me I have more potato salad at home 🙂

[teal cargo]

hopefully good food!

[tight saddle]

You post some misinformation here frequently and others/myself sometimes have to correct it.

[drowsy fog]

Quick ketharius what weapon do you want added for psykers

[tight saddle]

FORCE DAGGER WITH SPECIAL ATTACK WARP DAGGER THROW THAT EXPLODES ON CONTACT

or

Bretonnian Longsword... with... uh... warp stuff

[drowsy fog]

Ayo? That actually sounds sick

[nimble needle]

Psycannon, but it'll probably be for another subclass

Daemon sword!?

[paper trail]

interesting

[static epoch]

a force shield, shield, so i can force shield shield with my force shield during peril force force shield block

with deflector obviously

[jaunty bane]

Hey everyone! what section of this server would I go to for help completing a certain penance that all teammates hate? the dreaded "Going out with a bang"

[grave bobcat]

Did I tell you about the guy that died cause of my voice?

[manic halo]

looking for group

[tight saddle]

lmfao no wtf

[drowsy fog]

Oh I wonder if there will be a subclass that gave into the warp? Probably not cuz we are imperium

[manic halo]

there are a couple channels u can go to depending on ur region

[grave bobcat]

American hearing british accent = stunlocked

[nimble needle]

Yeah they used Daemonhost already

[grave bobcat]

I used voiip cause I needed to tlel him fast

And he just suddenly afks?

then dies?

He was typing ..

[tight saddle]

amazing

[grave bobcat]

"OMG YOUR VOICE I S THE BEST"

[tight saddle]

you're too OP

[grave bobcat]

fuckin idiot

[drowsy fog]

Pffft what

[tight saddle]

nerf Cal

[grave bobcat]

And I'm like

[drowsy fog]

WHOA AN ACCENT WTF

[grave bobcat]

90% sure

I lcipped it

[manic halo]

any suggestion on what level 25 talent I should use?

im using kenetic barrier from the previous tree if that helps

[nimble needle]

I actually like the soul blaze one but kinetic flayer is more popular

[tight saddle]

The most common used ones in order are bottom > top > middle depending on what else you picked.

[manic halo]

ah

i think I understand what you mean

[drowsy fog]

Kinetic flayer is popular, overload is neat, battery gives you gasp potentially 6% more damage

[manic halo]

my none aussie friends endless imitate my accent and fail which is funny

[nimble needle]

Can stack other feats, like toughness and peril resistance

[trail garnet]

battery synergizes with the burn 30

more burn stacks

[grave bobcat]

Oh if refound my fav clip

[trail garnet]

i still dont use it though

[ashen ore]

does this only effect the one enemy?

[nimble needle]

Any enemy you brain burst

[trail garnet]

Yes its an anti-boss feat

[manic halo]

I was expecting this to be showcasing a talent but it was just you beating someone up

i respect it

[grave bobcat]

lmao