psyker-class

[covert cosmos]

kantrael XII still slays without gun feats

not that i'd choose it over a staff unless im playing with 3 ogryns

[tight saddle]

XII kills shit in Damnation even as a grey low rating lmao

The nerf is going to piss so many people off

[burnt python]

its honestly nearly as good on psyker as it is vet, cus it doesn't need any of the perks lol

they are just overkill on 90% of enemies

[blissful stone]

I could, but then i would have to back out of that lobby.
Something i now had to do- since i am not one to deal with bots on malice or higher difficulty; I am increasingly finding myself unable to solo with bots [on malice or above]- a problem i have only had with matchmaking today- while waiting for my usual group to get online.

[hot tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-loltyler1-screaming-dead-wtf-gif-17500255

[weak galleon]

I'm getting kinda torn between these all. Don't know which one to use.

[burnt python]

the middle one, ez

[weak galleon]

it doesn't show in Psykhanium thouhg, but i heard there's a bug with it.

[burnt python]

what, decimator?

[weak galleon]

ye

[burnt python]

it only works on chains

[weak galleon]

like, it does show on some targets, doesn't on others.

[burnt python]

brutal momentum is the best blessing there but doesn't matter enough to roll w/ lower base stats imo

[weak galleon]

yes, but on any chain, not just same target, right?

[burnt python]

same target i believe but not sure

pen & first target matter a decent amount on axe and the other 2 are lackign in one or both

[ornate hamlet]

Opinions?

[burnt python]

its very good lucifer

[ornate hamlet]

Is unarmored enemies buff good since this weapon struggles with them?

[weak galleon]

those stats are pretty high. Prenetration only really matters vs Carapace, most of the flak goes down either way super quick on Mk5, from my experience

[hot tulip]

big dicc staff

the extra damage to unarmored helps you clear hordes or at least soften them up even better

[burnt python]

nah thats the one you will want to replace on weds

[weak galleon]

this is why i'm so torn between all these.

[burnt python]

you should not be using surge vs unarmored, just reroll that one and you have a beauty

[ornate hamlet]

Thank you

I will once its out

[hot tulip]

this is actually a very solid staff

you are missing just a little bit of quell speed but doesnt matter since F is on such a low cooldown anyways, and quelling isnt hard

[burnt python]

quell is nice but im happy to dump stat it if other stats are great

its not super impactful

[echo parrot]

[hot tulip]

i mean he wont be surging most unarmored horde waves anyways since everyone elses wave clear is nice, but he can actually start wracking up some decent unarmored kills when the crit procs in addition to the damage

and this man WILL crit with that staff

and oh my lord will this man be super area denial on everything

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/itwillkill-forgedinfire-it-will-kill-gif-5240853

[hot tulip]

it will

[burnt python]

time to revisit the ds tonight I think

[scarlet geyser]

Terrifying barrage is working good on staff?

[burnt python]

honestly, no idea if it works

in theory its awesome

[night marten]

I've seen enemies cowering sometimes lol

[hot tulip]

its kinda.. well, kinda redundant on surge since ur stunlocking almost everything on ur screen anyways but its nice for those mobs that get too close

it kinda works

[burnt python]

would be wonderful to know what the fuck "close range" is

[scarlet geyser]

Me neither, supress only works on ranged enemies, right?

[night marten]

but don't use that blessing consistently enough to say it doesn't have problems

[hot tulip]

I see it used more often on purge

[ornate hamlet]

Guys, they need to nerf the trauma staff

[night marten]

practically best in slot on purge staff

[scarlet geyser]

What are good blessings for purge staff?

Warp Nexus seems pretty cool

[burnt python]

hmm would ya'll buy to sit on the blessing?

[scarlet geyser]

I wouldn't cause i want to run FS on Psyker because i have fun playing with it

[orchid nest]

could be good eventually on 2h force sword depending on what blessings it has available

[violet frost]

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[fading depot]

Just failed my 10 malice missions without going down because of a gunner shooting through the floor on the Relay Station Disruption mission :^)

[scarlet geyser]

Revolver enjoyer?

[night marten]

it's a great blessing, but can it be applied to other psyker melee options?

[violet frost]

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[full patio]

Revolver more useful than most staffs ngl

Specially surge

[hollow timber]

revolver for style points

[night marten]

blazing spirit for example can't roll on the one weapon I would want to use it on, purge staff. dont want to buy a weapon for a blessing if I can't apply it to the weapon I want

[hot tulip]

hes baiting HES BAITING

tell me you dont play heresy+ without telling me you dont play heresy+

[full patio]

I'm not you're just bad

[hot tulip]

[violet frost]

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[full patio]

I play damnation

[night marten]

but there's no telling whether the blessing portion of crafting will let you apply blessings to weapons that can't originally roll them.

[hot tulip]

okay have fun picking up ur team every swarm because you offer literally nothing to the team 😉

[violet frost]

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[scarlet geyser]

Imagine if Surge staff has unique Mouse1 attack, like purgatus one

[hot tulip]

There just needs to be more efficent build variety on psyker to take other staves other than surge like 89 percent of the time

a huge problem is that our talent tree sucks ass

[scarlet geyser]

Like single target zap

[full patio]

Lern to play a real staff and stop being a liability to your team with "muh lightning stuns" shit

[scarlet geyser]

Too fat

[hot tulip]

aiite clearly you have no idea what you are talking about, at all, and you haven't been here so

i'll let you slide for now

stick around and learn

[full patio]

I slide all the time with my knife, you should try it

[gilded viper]

surge is fine

[violet frost]

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[gilded viper]

Like the only "bad" staff is trauma

[violet frost]

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[gilded viper]

Trauma just doesn't do anything super well

[hot tulip]

debatable based on blessings

[violet frost]

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[hot tulip]

overall surge is just too verastile on heresy+ to pass

however STRONG arguments can be made for purge also

[gilded viper]

Voidstrike is fine but I prefer Purge

[violet frost]

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[gilded viper]

Implying it's hard to aim Voidstrike?

[full patio]

All about that first drame stun huh

[hot tulip]

purge does what void does, which is area denial though, and void strike is literally aimless af

in fact all staves are aimless

[gilded viper]

Even surge has a reticule what you on about?

[burnt python]

it only rolls on claw swords for psyk afaik but it looks fun

[hot tulip]

no no i mean like, its not HARD to aim it

[scarlet lily]

Do you not know how to aim your surge lightning?

[sick kindle]

pics of exterm adept frame or it didn't happen

[cursive trout]

what are the space wizards fighting about?

[hollow timber]

I am brom

[gilded viper]

It's just people who want to start issues by saying Voidstrike is somehow the best and you're bad if you use anything else

[night marten]

seems like it would compete with the ant axe V for a niche

[violet frost]

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[scarlet geyser]

But thet are cool and helping me to live with my wizard fantasies

[scarlet lily]

Surge is just the safest staff, unironically

[burnt python]

i grabbed it, will try it out one day when bored of usual melee options

[scarlet lily]

The others are cool though, purge is pure dopamine

[violet frost]

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[low fossil]

as someone who is just vibing here because im curious about the other class builds

[zinc phoenix]

The best use for mage hand obviously. I’m rooting for 👊 🍆

[low fossil]

which one is voidstrike

[burnt python]

just for some flavor

[scarlet geyser]

Haha lightnings go zap-zap

[cursive trout]

All the staves are pretty great...maybe not trauma tho

[sick kindle]

I use purge because it's fun.

[hot tulip]

you'll always hear people preach about surge until the next patch comes which is soon

surge is just too versatile to just dismiss outright

[sick kindle]

And for absolutely no other reason

[hot tulip]

we'll see what they do to us

[gilded viper]

Trauma could be cool if it did more armor damage

[low fossil]

i gather surge is the lightning one? or is it the fire one

[sick kindle]

Sometimes, even, I use the Kaentrael. The rare and elusive gun staff.

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they just remove trauma it’s so sucky to use

[scarlet lily]

If trauma didn't knock everything apart it'd be great

[gilded viper]

Ap isn't any staves strong suit I'd argue, maybe surge

[zinc phoenix]

Surge does actually good damage to armor tho

It’s the only thing it DOES damage 😂

[hot tulip]

ironically surge claps on anyone wearing flak/carapace

[scarlet lily]

Which are arguably the only threats

[hot tulip]

of said armor is a huge problem for ur zealots/ogryns

[gilded viper]

Yah but hitting the 3 mauler's and 2 ogryns with a charges surge can be a pain in a horde

[burnt python]

trauma will be great vs armor too when they fix its dmg

[full patio]

Dude legit forgot about BB while probably asking for BB buff

[gilded viper]

I know how bb works? I just don't want Psyker to be the BB spam the class, especially when Vet puts in half as much effort for twice the value

[hot tulip]

its bad because the class was ironically designed around BB, and even IT doesnt do BB effectively enough

lmao

[cursive trout]

Surge is pretty great at helping from longer distances especially now that it has better vertical lock on
Purge is pretty great with crowds and narrow hallways alike
Void makes me feel like im playing dodgeball with basketballs

Your stick isnt special just because you use it

[gilded viper]

Also Even with Barrage Brain Burst isn't fast enough for high difficulty with hordes full of multiple carapace

[grave bobcat]

Lmao that last line

Rings so true

[sick kindle]

People look at anti armor values as if they're in some sort of vacuum, but in t4 and 5 you do not have the time when pockets of armored are putting pressure on your team to be using 3 bursts per enemy to kill them....

[night marten]

wait, you don't disagree that surge does good damage to armor, right? far more quickly and widspread than BB, albeit less targeted

[sick kindle]

BB absolutely does need a buff. Anyone who plays higher difficulties knows it's scaling potential is about as potent as an auto pistol.

[gilded viper]

My point exactly, having a good ap staff would be nice

or a change to bb

[remote tusk]

Surge is just so useful for the fireteam to have on damnation difficulty. Wish the other staves got some buffs so they could keep up

[gilded viper]

Purge and voidstrike are fine on damnation

[burnt python]

so is trauma lol, and bb is going to be very tricky to buff w/o making it op

[sick kindle]

Necessary, even, when high intensity comes to play. Too much horde.

[burnt python]

i think bb is a lot more useful than most ppl i see here tho

[hot tulip]

Purge and void are viable on damnnation yes

its just really hard to compete with the utility machine that is surge

[gilded viper]

Free BB is a useful talent, but I mostly focus on Horde Clear

[cursive trout]

How often does everyone BB?

[gilded viper]

When I cant move forward to deal with shooters

[burnt python]

i use it a ton

[gilded viper]

BB time, that or ogryns

[burnt python]

on damnation

[round shuttle]

I BB snipers when the vet is busy

[sick kindle]

Only on enemies I am positive it only takes one to kill on damnation and are mobile/difficult to get a clean use of other methods. Scab bombers and snipers come to mind.

[sour flame]

😫

[merry osprey]

should i even bother rolling another one of these staffs

[gilded viper]

When they gonna remove those BB proof fences and guard rails?

[round shuttle]

Oh yeah bombers too

[grave bobcat]

Stop it 😠

[burnt python]

gunners & shotgunners are bb fodder too

[cursive trout]

We comparing sticks?

[burnt python]

flamers if you run 6 warp charges

[acoustic spade]

theres some grates in the uhh

[grave bobcat]

Rdy yet purp?

[acoustic spade]

Torrent mission

[remote tusk]

Catching snipers or trappers that are relocating, when they are running behind corners. BB is allright, just very situational

[acoustic spade]

that can have enemies stand on top and shoot down on you

[burnt python]

gimme 5 then yes

[grave bobcat]

net

neat*

[solar remnant]

I havent rolled a good surge yet man

[acoustic spade]

without you having anyway of killing them

[gilded viper]

6 warp charges is overrated

[night marten]

it's utility goes way up or down depending on your team's positioning

[acoustic spade]

cause they can shoot through the grates but you cant

[burnt python]

i don't usually run it but it does have a few nice bps

[gilded viper]

I'm glad they fixed the issue of Surge immediately making you explode tho

[merry osprey]

tbh i was just wondering i kinda just wanted to know if there are perks that are better to go for

[sick kindle]

BB functions drastically differently. The problem is that people who play Malice look at it and go 'wtf u talkin about willis? It's killing the majority of specials. It's fine on damnation' despite never actually progging/clearing damnation specifically.

[night marten]

if your team is on the defensive and trying to limit incoming fire/enemies, BB's utility can go way up because of force projection from a safe position

[lucid flower]

spooky ones, may Krag ask question?

[sick kindle]

It drops like a rock HARD after t3 play

BB becomes dogwater

[night marten]

but if you're all out in the open anyway and vets are just blasting everything to death BB isn't that great

[grave bobcat]

I've been testing axes so our first game will be me maybe griefing hard as I try to see how much damage I take without resistances lmao

[solar remnant]

Yes krag

[long wharf]

if you're playing damnation and you're on the defensive, you don't have a safe position

[merry osprey]

yeah i kinda hate how bad it is in higher difficulties

[burnt python]

sounds good to me lol, i dont run any resistances

[cursive trout]

I find charge time per chain attack pretty neat on surge

[gilded viper]

BB only one shots 5 of the 14 elites/specials in the game on damnation, Gunner, shotgunner, Trapper, Bomber, and sniper

Very niche in damnation

[grave bobcat]

I run them cause like

What else? lol

Exp

pog

[burnt python]

my curios are poo

[lucid flower]

Krag tries best to make sure lil uns dont get hurt, but when lil uns get hurt, does that mean emperor doesnt protect?

[merry osprey]

i feel like doggos should be on that list but thats just me

[night marten]

at least it staggers everything else except mutants

[burnt python]

i have 2 of these and a wound with block cost reduction

[grave bobcat]

I bought one if it popped up with toughness + a 20% resistance to X

[tidal adder]

It doesnt even do that without stacks

[solar remnant]

Man I wasnt expecting that question

[grave bobcat]

ok

[hot tulip]

yeah you can run anything on malice or lower tbh, and no one will care; run any build you want

[grave bobcat]

Thats exceptionally poo

lmao

[hot tulip]

BB is good there

[cursive trout]

I feel the perks need a big overhaul for more accessible gameplay styles, would you guys like a talent that does an AOE BB or even a guaranteed double BB?

[burnt python]

i rolled 5 curios and hit xp 5 times, quit trying lmao

[lucid flower]

lol

[grave bobcat]

I've never rolled for them

Cause IK new that could happen lol

[gilded viper]

Aoe BB would be insane\

[merry osprey]

thats just the fire perk tbh

[tidal adder]

balanced as of right now*

[burnt python]

i have others that are prob situationally better but i like hp, just always good

[merry osprey]

six stack can clear whole hordes in hearsy not sure abouyt damnations havent played there yet

[night marten]

it can

[grave bobcat]

They all look soemthing liek this

With 1 being purple with an extra 4% tough

[gilded viper]

I mean any force staff works in damnation, but like, Surge is more elite focused than Void or Purge

Purge's stagger is nice

[tidal adder]

Trauma is the way

[hot tulip]

Okay what if

https://gyazo.com/080bea2d7b6120cb5c92d212e4c6934b

When you kill an enemy affected by the soulblaze from this skill specifically, it spread onto a nearby enemy, prioritizing specials?

[grave bobcat]

It spreads from you as a source

Woops

[wary tendon]

is this 5 stacks of 3% or 5 stacks of 0.6%?

[hot tulip]

so in theory, it spreads?

[merry osprey]

this skill in general needs buff its useless

[hot tulip]

I mean yeah I guess that too-

[grave bobcat]

Its range is like 15m

[gilded viper]

I mean if it works like Exploding Bomb from VT2 it won't proc much at all

[hot tulip]

yes the skill is garbage

[grave bobcat]

Not wrong

[long wharf]

if you're the one doing the elite killing for your team, your team has a dps deficiency

[mild tartan]

5 stacks of 3

[grave bobcat]

Oh waiot

Nvm

[mild tartan]

max 15

[wary tendon]

ty

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but trapper, sniper, bomber, hound, rager and mutie are the dangerous ones and psyker can knock three of six without any real effort beyond holding down until their head go boop

[grave bobcat]

I thought it was Kinetic Overload

[remote tusk]

I dont feel like horde control has been the biggest issue in my damnation runs so far. Anecdotal evidence ofc.

Getting to burst down specialists that turn up in a disastrous position really quickly, and tying down normal gunmobs seem like the big threats to build for?

[grave bobcat]

I need to stop multitasking lmao

[tidal adder]

whats the max rating on weapons?

380?

[cursive trout]

Simply Purge

[gilded viper]

The dangerous ones are the group of 3 crushers and a bulwark rapidly approaching your position

[mild tartan]

380 base, I think with everything else it can get up to 540 feasibly

[tidal adder]

Should i get this?

[mild tartan]

yes

[grave bobcat]

Ye

[burnt python]

good whenever you are

[mild tartan]

great roll

[grave bobcat]

Neat

[tidal adder]

nice

thanks

[night marten]

KO is definitely trash due to the current backloaded damage of soulblze but wrack and ruin is also bad

[grave bobcat]

I'll restart game just incase cause pign

brb

[burnt python]

k gonna grab some water

anyone else want to come for damn?

[gilded viper]

The only good Soulblaze talent is the 30 one with Purge staff

[remote tusk]

Again, anecdotal, but between zealots, vets and psykers I havent had much issue with those

[night marten]

great staff, except you want to reroll the +carapace damage *perk when that gets implemented soon

[sick kindle]

Is that suppression blessing actually worth it? 8 meters of clearance doesn't really seem that significant. That's about when they start pulling out their melee anyway, right?

[night marten]

@cursive trout ^

[gilded viper]

Well if you have a good team, theorycrafting is redundant

[zinc phoenix]

They’re only dangerous if you don’t have space to dodge imo. Otherwise even blobs of crusher + bulwark aren’t that big an issue

[remote tusk]

True enough, just comparing notes

[gilded viper]

Why worry about anything when your 3 vets are running las builds?

[cursive trout]

When they get to it, i'd like to reroll both

[gilded viper]

You can only reroll 1 perk

the other gets locked

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness it’s really good 😂

[sick kindle]

I just want to know what blessings are good aside from the obvious 'Secondary can't get interrupted' for purge and 'repeated uses make it charge faster'. Probably...also BiS for purge

[full patio]

It does damage to armored yes. It's just more of a pain for your team, requires almost no aim, and it's slot is better filled with a voidstaff, flame staff or lasgun

[night marten]

at least the crit perk isn't useless

[cursive trout]

^

[night marten]

+carapace damage on purge is super bad

[gilded viper]

I'm aware, I prefer it over barrage when running Purge

[night marten]

but everything else about it is great

[cursive trout]

i'll take crit over making it a little warmer for carapaced

[gilded viper]

I like Terrifying Barrage on Purge as well

[merry osprey]

this i feel like there needs to be a way for vets to get past armor with lasguns

[night marten]

better filled is a strong statement, don't think you can say that objectively.

[zinc phoenix]

???

You mean besides power sword?

[patent plover]

is this something worth getting? or should i wait for something else

[cursive trout]

Stacking damage + All the warp charges you could ever need son

[full patio]

sure I can. Surge staff is objectively for people who are not very good at the game

[gilded viper]

Yes

[night marten]

well I disagree, but you do you

[burnt python]

buy

perfect blessing combo

[gilded viper]

deflector force sword with decent stats, yes go for it

[grave bobcat]

@burnt python Rdy wehnevee

[gilded viper]

So good

[night marten]

that first target HURTS

[violet frost]

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[cursive trout]

As long as the stats are good who cares right?

[patent plover]

aight, i'll get it

[gilded viper]

I don't get why we have this staff fight every day

Like we all get preferences

[merry osprey]

yeah because if they get that close with full health near full theyre still a problem espcially in pubs its why i almost always use a bolter in oubs

[zinc phoenix]

Not much else to talk about

[night marten]

maybe tons of people like it, and maybe too many people think it's the only option for high level play, but it's undeniably effective at its role.

[merry osprey]

alot of times uyou can get unlucky with team comp and get ran over by armor in pubs

[frigid marten]

this is why we can't have scoreboards.

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[gilded viper]

I don't play pubs damnation

[sick kindle]

I just want cool blessings that make weapons fun and interesting rather than straight staff buffs. Like imagine if weakspot kill just caused Soulblaze splash damage of 15m stacks on the things that survive and get staggered.

[gilded viper]

Yah please no green circles

People are already so annoying

[grave bobcat]

LO

[cursive trout]

Because people dont like learning other sticks

[zinc phoenix]

I tend to dodge behind them and power sword away on my vet. Even on heresy it doesn’t take that long. If there’s a mob I spam some grenades first tho

[sick kindle]

Maybe make the staff variety more than 'Use a railgun or a tazer or be sad'

[burnt python]

lol there were like 4 specials inside of us when we spawned

[full patio]

Effective? Debatable. However it feels like people often leave every other staff behind for it for no apparent reason other than "I read it on reddit that this staff is top, and I have no patience to learn any other staff"

[grave bobcat]

Yo 10+ plasteel

[sick kindle]

Psyker painfully needs more build diversity

[grave bobcat]

Stonks

[wary tendon]

the 'personal stats' scoreboard some people want seems sensible

[zinc phoenix]

Flamer too

[violet frost]

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[burnt python]

ez money

[violet frost]

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[gilded viper]

How can you be sad using a flamethrower?

[hollow timber]

cause flamer better

[night marten]

for sure, the groupthink is real. especially when a few people jump on discord/reddit and just say the way they like the most is also the best.

[lethal plover]

damn
I just saw the most legendary damnation clutch from a zealot

[gilded viper]

Good luck with the flamer when the vet steal all your ammo

[grave bobcat]

I need to wake up a bit now lol

[violet frost]

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[burnt python]

bout to fight for 30 mins per horde with my fs again

[cursive trout]

^

[violet frost]

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[gilded viper]

Implying there is good vet players

[remote tusk]

It's the old subjecticity/objecticity thing I guess. Always gonna rile people up

[sick kindle]

Purge has it's place. It has more uptime potential than Zealot flamer and is more responsive.

[gilded viper]

No 100 minute long swap animation like flamer either

[sick kindle]

Assuming you have warp resistance on warp stacks + 6 warp stacks

[violet frost]

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[steel vortex]

Alright zealot/vet here need to make sure the psykers havent accidentally summoned a daemon or anything here

[merry osprey]

or they use a bolter and just ran into 3 crusher patrols

[steel vortex]

How is evrryone

[gilded viper]

I prefer free brain burst on Purge over 6 charges, but to all their own

[spiral remnant]

EMPRAH... WHY...

PLEAAAAAASE

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[zinc phoenix]

It’s discord so 🧂 af

[steel vortex]

Bolters have low ish reserve ammo and need to reload

[zinc phoenix]

They also fuck shit up good

[merry osprey]

you will mow down everything in front of you tho

[gilded viper]

They break bulwark shield, bolter is good enough for me

[cursive trout]

Maybe its a sign

[steel vortex]

And if people use bolter as heehee firee and horde clear instead of "you see this big bulky target, fuck em" it can get messy

[hollow timber]

is fine boss, brom keeping an eye 'ere

[drowsy fog]

Big E doesn't like you

[steel vortex]

Theyre meant for anti armor

[remote tusk]

Context matters. Most zealots I know prefer to run flamer, making the flame staff a less attractive option for me. I can easily understand that it would be more tempting to others with different team comps

[full patio]

I'll chalk it up to this. Surge staff is easy to learn and has a very low ceiling. It however is certainly worse than others due to it fucking up other people's aim depending on how carelessly you play it, while also being worse at killing hordes. It has cc yes, and thats about it.
Flame staff is a wannabe zealot flamer that is useful sometimes depending on the party
Trauma is trauma, underwhelming
Void is seemingly king, good damage, clears hordes, reminds you you have your BB for crushers

[merry osprey]

yeah nah single fire to knock down crowds until they get close then powersword

[steel vortex]

Zelalots run flamers because its good funny and haha fire

Its good for pissing into crowds

[sick kindle]

I'm not in a static, I lonewolfed my Exterminatus Adept, so I tend to have more flexibility if my team needs it pre match

[lethal plover]

let me tell you what flamer can not do: quickswapping and spraying before the mobs hit you.
I would not have been able to finish the last damnation endless without me spraying everything in existence

[sick kindle]

No dedicated zealot to pester for runs here, sadly

[merry osprey]

and armor bypass with f skill

[cursive trout]

anyone feel like going for a wizards only run?

Official Wiz Biz

[remote tusk]

Wizards only is a ton of fun

[steel vortex]

Yeah. The thing is most other guns struggle with armor to some degree

[sick kindle]

t5 investigation with the AIDS tree.

[covert cosmos]

purg staff is waay better for ccing horde. flamer is way better for killing the pack of shotgunners the game spawned behind you while you're already fighting a horde.

[steel vortex]

Even if the gun does decent damage flak will make it do a bit less to the point where it seems like its less powerful

[sick kindle]

That last area gets so wild, TWO flamers is almost necessary.

[steel vortex]

Bolters as a note do not give a single fuck about armor

[lethal plover]

and the ammo is a big deal too. I was literally spraying all the time in a 40-minute game and my team mates were running out of ammo too. If I were a flamer we would be running dry quick

[steel vortex]

Which is why they, aside from hitting hard already, seem to hit rodiculpusly hard

[frigid marten]

it's about covering other party members weakness, surge is generally the best at that, because no other weapon can do what surge do.

[violet frost]

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[steel vortex]

Bolters being used on hordes is wasteful when its one of the best anti armor guns

[merry osprey]

yep just mag dump any big boys and your problems all go away

[zinc phoenix]

Void is just bananas

[cedar zenith]

Hard stun the nerds rushing at your party

[violet frost]

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[cedar zenith]

Around corners too

[covert cosmos]

way better at ccing mutants, dogs, and poxwalkers

[violet frost]

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[lethal plover]

void can't stop mutants. Anyway by this point you should know what different staves bring

[covert cosmos]

assuming you aren't fighting a hoarde...

[steel vortex]

Thing is all specials except the sniper and most scabs have some degree of atmor other than unarmored

[violet frost]

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[cedar zenith]

Lmao

We’re playing with different parties

[steel vortex]

And lasguns and autoguns fall off against armor a bit

[lethal plover]

purgatus is actually good for controlling dogs in a horde. They can't touch me if I'm spraying

[violet frost]

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[full patio]

It gives illusion of being useful and covering others I'll give it that. However it just falls flat on the fact that - why cc something that you can just kill

[steel vortex]

Hell lasguns are basically worthless against carapace

[sick kindle]

I feel like uptime is very much lost on people only obsessed with DPS numbers. Psyker staves will always win the war of attrition on high intensity hordes because of zero ammo reliance and reliable methods of continuing indefinitely.

[steel vortex]

Which of note is the armor which maulers or the chainaxe boys have on their heads

[covert cosmos]

killing takes time

[severe folio]

i dont think ammo reliance is an issue

[zinc phoenix]

The big difference between void and surge is that void can stun like three things void can’t, and void can kill literally everything that isn’t thicc af in carapace and surge can’t

[severe folio]

ammo seem pretty sparing

[lethal plover]

pretty much this, we were down to 2 at some point, and a horde spawned, and my team mate had no ammo, and it was up to me to purgatus the horde

[covert cosmos]

think a better argument would be why kill what you could dodge

[steel vortex]

Irs not dps its armor or hogging it all

Or lack of conservation

[cedar zenith]

Surge does more damage against armor

[zinc phoenix]

This is 100% true

[remote tusk]

Two casts kills a full squad of gunners in a heartbeat with the animation cancel, which is a very helpful trick to pull

[zinc phoenix]

Altho void is literally the best gun

[steel vortex]

Bolters are ammo hungry. And bypass armor. The things with other guns is they hit well but do jack shit to carapace

[lethal plover]

zealot flamer needing to conserve ammo means the flamer isn't used all the time
purgatus can be up all the time to herd groups of gunmen and specials

[remote tusk]

The ammo/uptime thing is a good point

[sick kindle]

Surge is just a buffer to give your team time to recoup and not get pushed around as much by elite/armor mixin. That is where surge excels and shines.

[cedar zenith]

It’s got faster ready time too

[wary tendon]

reloading takes ages on the flamer too

[cedar zenith]

People seem to underestimate control in this game

[mystic dirge]

I feel it also comes down to the person's playstyle.

[cedar zenith]

Especially some of the poxwalkers masquerading as people here

[frigid marten]

half of the game is staggering and stopping enemies

[cursive trout]

Just be good at your playstyle

[covert cosmos]

^

[wary tendon]

I do think surge is better in most groups but i enjoy voidstrike much more

[sick kindle]

My playstyle is playing Darktide in my dreams where the Coruscation staff exists and I can set down persistent AoE fire circles and shotgun blast specials again.

[remote tusk]

Player enjoyment is reason enough

[sick kindle]

Then I wake up and I'm sad. 😦

[zinc phoenix]

Surge users in their mind: “look at me staggering six crushers by myself saving the whole team!”

Surge players in reality: “look at me being spit roasted by two crushers while I stun one crusher and five pox walkers!”

[cedar zenith]

Surge does like 500-600 damage to crushers per blast

[cursive trout]

If only we could manipulate pockets of time, but I know it would be either underwhelming or overpowered to the point where they have to make it underwhelming because others complain about it

[zinc phoenix]

If you hit them and not their pox walker bros

[grave bobcat]

@burnt python That was

high int

[violet frost]

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[burnt python]

the lack of las gun users in damnation is shocking

[grave bobcat]

We're ded

[frigid marten]

psyker can kill horde easly in melee because they can block with peril and use all the stamina for stagger. so the staff can have a different role.

[remote tusk]

That's why positioning is an important skill though

[kindred sphinx]

void is better

[covert cosmos]

this argument is pointless. we all know trauma staff will reign supreme when it's fixed

[lethal plover]

I will say this, axe surge is the most effective for me when I have a team I can trust so I can be in the back line and just spamming surge to prevent mutants from breaking our formation
but in damnation endless, especially when I need to clutch revive a lot and kill an endless stream of enemies, now my preferred choice is force sword / purgatus. I could not have finished my last damnation run with any other weapon combo, because I was rezzing a lot mid gunners, and there were so many hordes with dogs mixed in.

[cedar zenith]

I received a 502 Mk V axe from the emperor last night

Axe good

[kindred sphinx]

void is the only viable option honestly u get weakspot hits - warp on hit and u just spam void all game

[cedar zenith]

It has decapitator on it too

[round shuttle]

I’m currently a surge user but all this discourse is making me want to try out a good void strike. If only Melk would sell me one…

[zinc phoenix]

You’re in the sewer after a drop down from the balcony. Ahead is a beast of nurgle and some crushers. Behind a horde is literally falling from the place you just jumped. There are gunners around the beast of nurgle and cover is three tiny boxes with no side corridors. How do you position?

[cedar zenith]

Imagine checking melk shop

[covert cosmos]

i think i would lean towards purge for high intensity as well

[cedar zenith]

[idle shuttle]

maybe I should bring steam deck to work to check store every hr...

[covert cosmos]

need to protect the vets so they can carry me

[violet frost]

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[round shuttle]

Where do you get your weapons then

[cedar zenith]

From the emperor like the emperor intended

[kindred sphinx]

it's actually insane how weak ever staff is compared to void and it's even more insane ppl think surge is meta

[zinc phoenix]

I would say the shop but all I get are lasguns and auto pistols

[frigid marten]

Teamate are covers.

Psyker can shoot behind them

[zinc phoenix]

Your ablative armor is now mad 😂

[remote tusk]

Interesting! I find that I play a lot more aggressive with surge/axe. Fun that we use the setups differently. I'll do some more runs with sword/purgatus again with your thoughts in mind

[long wharf]

I love playing psyker. I have as much toughness as my meatshields have health

[zinc phoenix]

I usually am up front whacking things with my sword until a horde shows

[long wharf]

I'm often hacking away at the horde until I hear a special

[remote tusk]

I smack things until I see something with a gun I can stop from shooting my friends, or halt a special in their tracks, then anim cancel back into block attack as needed

[idle shuttle]

void is shit and surge is meta

[mystic dirge]

here we go again

[zinc phoenix]

Cats are shit dogs are the meta

[frail spire]

Do we know if the passive quelling being very different on force sword compared to other melee weapons is intended?

[idle shuttle]

its worse than a non force

on passove quell

it wants you to hold your fingers up

unable to blocm

[violet frost]

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[remote tusk]

We know, he asked if it's intentional or a bug

[leaden pier]

passive quell is affected by weapons?

[mystic dirge]

aye

[idle shuttle]

it must be intended

[silent bison]

whats yalls favorite melee on psyker? im curious

[leaden pier]

force sword

[idle shuttle]

antax

[leaden pier]

it just looks neat and thats why i use it

[foggy whale]

antax mk5 personally

[severe folio]

trauma staff fix tomorrow ?

[leaden pier]

fix?

[severe folio]

fix

[silent bison]

fix for w hat

[frail spire]

Do we know when the patch hits tomorrow?

[idle shuttle]

however if I were to play to have fun, force sword

[severe folio]

fix for trauma staff bug

[leaden pier]

what is bug

[silent bison]

what was the bug

the projectiles not coming out?

[severe folio]

guys a little help here

[silent bison]

ooooo

[severe folio]

thanks

[silent bison]

that would explain why it feels kindof weak at first

noted

[tepid sinew]

Even if they fix it I still probably wouldn't use it over any of the other three

[leaden pier]

ah never noticed, mostly because i barelly use it

[severe folio]

why not

[idle shuttle]

trauma new meta tomorrow

[severe folio]

it has the range of a purge and surge

[silent bison]

i like the trauma staff but im lookin forward to the flame one

[severe folio]

it rag doll

youll hate the feeling of not able to hit range with the flame staff

[silent bison]

true true

[leaden pier]

i like the stagger, but if i was looking for a reliable stagger on elites or anything else id use the surge

[mild tartan]

So mobs can spawn 2 feet directly behind you right? I have no explanation for how these guys sneak up on me otherwise

[hot tulip]

honestly sure, I love seeing body parts fly lmao

we'll seeee

in reality, all they will do is nerf peril blocking

[teal cargo]

I wonder if we get better shops tomorrow

[hot tulip]

sad

[severe folio]

i would love trauma get more look

its the first thing we have to use

[severe folio]

never

[teal cargo]

and buff Power Sword while we're at it

[severe folio]

but speaking of shop

[remote tusk]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

[idle shuttle]

can I bust by peril blocking?

[severe folio]

how do we make sure that our vendor gets 400 rating gears ? just keep buying from it ?

[scarlet lily]

I dunno why they would do that

[teal cargo]

Give Power Sword peril blocking

[severe folio]

fshark

[hot tulip]

they buff Power Sword and Vet F, and zealot returns to pre-nerf F where all her melees are empowered for the duration of the F

[hot tulip]

Peril blocking is lowkey kinda... disgusting rn

[scarlet lily]

Powersword buffs?

[teal cargo]

yea its pretty weak while blocking

[scarlet lily]

this is bait isn't it

[teal cargo]

so to compensate Vets, we will be giving them Kinetic Deflection

[scarlet lily]

Yes it is when used right, but it's hardly a reason to nerf something

[hot tulip]

okay i was shitposting with the buffs above but peril blocking is legit good

i shouldnt have more block efficency than ogyrn with max shield block. Psyker can block/dance deamonhost on damnnation with it

[scarlet lily]

We don't

[hot tulip]

we do

[teal cargo]

Shield Ogryns better

[scarlet lily]

Bunker down is better, but they can't move

[full patio]

Give vets the staffs, let them show psykers how it's done

[silent bison]

theyre changing the shop?

[scarlet lily]

It's better when used properly

[teal cargo]

Like you can still be overwhelmed while peril blocking host

[hot tulip]

we dont even have to take a shield to get roughly the same block efficency as him which is sad

[silent bison]

i didnt hear about this , what are they planning on changing ?

[scarlet lily]

But they aren't the same

[teal cargo]

Hunker down Ogryn just ignores host entirely

[hot tulip]

look thats fine- if yall think its trash me too cause I dont want it touched lol

[zinc phoenix]

To be fair peril blocking eats a trait so it needs to be kinda good

[teal cargo]

besides the corruption and all

[scarlet lily]

It's not trash

[teal cargo]

Peril Blocks real good

[scarlet lily]

It's just not something that's causing issues to the point it needs to be nerfed

[zinc phoenix]

And you also have to burn a weapon blessing to really unlock the power

[teal cargo]

and could prob take some looking at but I doubt Fatshark is going to

[hot tulip]

we get away with so much shit with peril blocking tho

[scarlet lily]

Focus on empowering classes, rather than nerfing them

[hot tulip]

i mean

thats fine

[mystic dirge]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/community-update-5-week-2/67057

[hot tulip]

and yes I agreee, but knowing fatshark

they like to nerf than add

case and point battlemage sienna

[teal cargo]

Fatshark is mostly just lazy

releasing unfinished shit

and stubborn

[scarlet lily]

Consider being constructive with mentions of nerfing or such, they probably keep tabs on each channel for balance purposes

[silent bison]

lvl 30s should FEEL powerful imo, i havnt gotten to lvl 30 psyker yet so cant give a take on that
but lvl 30s do need to feel powerful

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[scarlet lily]

👀

[hot tulip]

oh im sure they've heard all our feedback by now, it isn't like we've been shitposting here 24/7

[teal cargo]

👀

[severe folio]

im surprise we are still here

is this the definition of a toxic relationship

[teal cargo]

I'm kinda fine with Psyker as is power level wise

[scarlet lily]

they cannot touch me behind my peril deflector block

[teal cargo]

What annoys me a lot more is this shitty shop

Can't do any progression except RNG

no crafting

[zinc phoenix]

No way they do, so much filth to sort through. Companies that do analysis use a time delayed feedback channel. Class channels are just a way to a) split up the cesspit of general and b) give newbies a place to go to ask about class stuff for their class

[lethal plover]

no. They read the forums.
People whining here don't really do much.

[hot tulip]

they read here too

[severe folio]

hi fshark

pls dont ban me

[scarlet lily]

They might check ever so often, but they're probably not actively monitoring

[severe folio]

i love my psyker

oh phew

[teal cargo]

Like I'd say except for Vet, the classes aren't way better than others

[remote tusk]

I imagine one look at our sodium levels was enough

[scarlet lily]

You'd be surprised, they might read over things in an unofficial way, but.. They'll still be reading it

[zinc phoenix]

I like psyker a lot tbh. It’s definitely the most flexible in a game

[scarlet lily]

yes

[zinc phoenix]

Besides vet

[hot tulip]

psyker is a nice anchor/support ya

[severe folio]

playing psyker makes me feel like j want more out of my psyker

[lethal plover]

issues need to be clearly delineated and itemized for future actions
count the list of bugs here for instance
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/c/darktide/bugs/94
that's why, go to the forums to get actual attention

[hot tulip]

if u think psyker is that raw DPS, ehhh thats not entirely correct

[remote tusk]

Psyker is fun. It is just frustrating that so much of our penances and skills are built around BB

[teal cargo]

If Psyker is intended to be an elite dps class... yea that doesnt work too good

[small hornet]

BB takes forever to activate

[hot tulip]

it was intended by devs, or so they say

[teal cargo]

and especially boss dmg is no bueno

[hot tulip]

look at where we are no

now

[ashen ore]

Psyker is the zappy boy

[severe folio]

if psyker is intend to be a dps then we have a tad too little compare to other

if psyker is intend to be a cc class then we also have, literally just 1-2 option to do so

like, what else are you gonna use to cc other than surge and maybe purg

[idle shuttle]

feel like im missing out on much of the game as psyker. guns go straigt to the trash

[lethal plover]

we do have many. Controlling dogs, mutants with surge
control dogs with purgatus / trauma
1 shot bursters with trauma
open up bulwarks with BB

[severe folio]

trauma’s ragdoll ?

thats like 3 options isnt it ?

[teal cargo]

BB opens up Bulwarks, thas kinda CC

Lasgun Vets are happy

[foggy whale]

peril blocking makes you the best rezzer available currently

[lethal plover]

stopping a bulwark can change the flow of the fight

[teal cargo]

I guess only weakness of Vets

if they got Lasgun cant deal with Bulwarks ver ywell

and if Bolter cant deal with shooter hordes ver ywell ☠️

[lethal plover]

that and dying to melee

[teal cargo]

i mean they prob shouldnt

since Power Sword cleaves 50 people at a time

but is glass cannon in melee

[lethal plover]

power sword is the perfect illustration that DPS doesn't mean much when you're dead

[teal cargo]

but often killing them before they killy ou works

[severe folio]

if dps doesnt mean much when youre dead then we wouldnt have an achievement to die

[teal cargo]

yea they don have any melee survivability perks and PS sucks defensively

but often doesnt matter when you can cleave everything to death

compared to like Zealot Evis which just gets stuck on an elite

[zinc phoenix]

Power sword is weirdly out of step with the rest of vet melee options which don’t have a ton of mobility and aren’t usually a top tier cleave weapon. And there’s power sword which gives you great damage and immense cleave and mobility

[ashen ore]

Who is even dying as a psyker? I just equip that saber and just dodge 100% of the time till I develop carpal tunnel.

[hot tulip]

Now heres the thing that fatshark usually does with 'Classes'- They release Subclasses to fill in 'roles' in the group, although im not too sure what the designs are for Psyker moving forward

We could verywell be getting a Psyker Tank subclass
A psyker healer subclass, etc

If THIS is our DPS subclass, we've got a bleak future ahead of us

like for example Bardin in VT2- He could go Slayer for Damage or Ironbreaker for Tank

same thing could happen to us

[teal cargo]

Sienna had Unchained tank

[hot tulip]

Sienna also had battlemage lol and that got nerfed

[teal cargo]

but also dealt a ton of melee dmg hmmm

idk they did nerf Battle mage cos it was kinda op

Famished + Lingering was too dumb

[hot tulip]

I mean

actually yeah

[teal cargo]

but they gave Corruscating

[hot tulip]

it was kinda

[teal cargo]

which is real good staff and all

maybe as money grab

[remote tusk]

Psykinetic feels like a bit of a miss on the theme too. A psyker with telekinesis evokes imagery of pushing, throwing people and objects around

[compact cargo]

We throw cc

[teal cargo]

but in VT2 they didn't have a clear favorite class smh

[hot tulip]

staves feel relatively nice ofc, I just wish BB wasnt so grating to use compared to the overall speed and flow of the game

[compact cargo]

That's our only task

[compact cargo]

Sister of the thorn

[spiral remnant]

if they made BB the same speed as that one level 30 feat, i think it'd be a lot more useable

[compact cargo]

before dlc careers clearly shade

[compact cargo]

borderline op

[spiral remnant]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact cargo]

bb at 2 seconds replaces ur weapon usage

[spiral remnant]

i dont even use it for armored opponents now

i mean

[severe folio]

in 40k they’re literally just dangerous wizards

[spiral remnant]

for armored opponents yeah it should

[long wharf]

not at all

[acoustic spade]

🙏 perk replacement comes soon

[hexed viper]

bb would be better if you at least got a warp charge even if you didn't kill the enemy.

[severe folio]

hurl lighting, conjure flame, raise hell wind and all bad stuff

[long wharf]

this really ought to be how it works

[spiral remnant]

i shouldnt be using purg or surge in place of BB for armored opponents

since that's sort of its entire niche

[compact cargo]

6 seconds is what it takes for a zealot to two shot a rager and in that time u can kill a crusher in heresy

[hot tulip]

I'd say Waystalker was a posterfavorite for awhile until like the last half of the game

[severe folio]

give me that

[long wharf]

you absolutely should be using surge against armored enemies

[acoustic spade]

got pretty lucky with the blessings

[compact cargo]

bb is for run away specials...and maintaining warp charges if they were worth managing

[acoustic spade]

Focused Channeling isnt exactly bad even if its not the best

[compact cargo]

not elites

[tepid sinew]

Every single ranged weapon in the requisition shop is an autogun.... but a really good one is at the top

[severe folio]

i like focused channeling

[hexed viper]

i mainly bb Bulwarks or Snipers and just rely on passive Warp Charge gains from the perks.

[acoustic spade]

yeah it makes a bad situation (someone hitting you) a little less bad (your cast doesnt get interrupted and you get to torch their ass)

[compact cargo]

besides we can just do this instead
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051830729513898044/Darktide_cqm3e5AxxS.mp4

who needs bb

[severe folio]

hehehehe

also this is a bit hard to do

compare to purg cancel

i cant pull it as consistent

[acoustic spade]

wait is that you instant cancelling quell to charge?

[merry osprey]

not really just run and stop

[compact cargo]

We will be able to with time!

Just like thunder hammer cancels

not me sadly

some Chad in this very chat

[severe folio]

i manage to do it

but not consistently

also

it just look shit

[vocal hound]

I'm so sad! This appeared in my shop but i just barely can not afford it.

[severe folio]

hi so sad! This appeared in my shop but i just barely can not afford it.

[merry osprey]

isnt limb spiltter kinda bad

[vocal hound]

Yes, but brutal momentum is a must have blessing

[acoustic spade]

I cant do that at all

instant explosion everytime I try in meatgrinder

[long wharf]

well, I mean you want it, but I'm doing fine without it

[merry osprey]

i always thought it was only worth going for on weapons with sweeping attacks

[long wharf]

that axe's block+attack is a sweeping cleave attack

[vocal hound]

MkV axe is exclusively sweeping attacks, but they stop on the first target without brutal momentum

[tight saddle]

Press forward and then sprint to cancel it while you're shooting lightning

[merry osprey]

true enough i was thinking more claw sword heavy

i got this and hgavent turned back for melee on my psyker

[neat hearth]

Heyo how good is this random drop

[acoustic spade]

you want to see the worst weapon I have Brutal Momentum on? Not on my Psyker tho

[neat hearth]

Wow, rude

(jk)

[acoustic spade]

Power Sword with Brutal Momentum

.>

<.<

[merry osprey]

oof lol

i need one wit5h better stats wtill

[acoustic spade]

Otherwise its pretty good

Rampage on a Power Sword makes you accidentally kill specials in horde and not notice

[echo parrot]

Alrighty, true endgame outfit is ready

Kinda wishing I picked red but the colors being off makes it even better

[wanton cove]

Interesting thx for that! Never knew

[acoustic spade]

I just wish this blessing was better on staffs

I wouldnt mind it on my Purgatus Staff but

Surge is very meeeh

[solar remnant]

My conscript shirt disappeared after putting on a different shirt

[acoustic spade]

same

[paper trail]

brutal

[solar remnant]

Can never go full prisoner again

[solar remnant]

What crime did you pick?

[paper trail]

should have never taken it off

[acoustic spade]

I was green on my Psyker apparently

Misplaced Faith

[solar remnant]

I'm pretty sure I picked that too, at work so I can't check

[acoustic spade]

it just fits a Psyker

someone thought you were a heretic just cause you are a psyker

[leaden pier]

any of you guys lose your convict outfit for your torso?

[hexed viper]

i just hope this patch makes the game playable for me again

[solar remnant]

Ye was just talking about that

[nimble needle]

I lost mine, yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Just got done with a level 2 run. Is it just me or is brain burst wildly overpowered? It’s game breaking. I can’t believe they wouldn’t nerf it

[paper trail]

lol what bait

[hexed viper]

bad bait

[lavish spruce]

Lol no, it won't 1 shot on damnation

Some stuff anyway

[ornate hamlet]

No one plays damnation

[paper trail]

that is what the people playing Damnation actually say

[lavish spruce]

Not true

[echo parrot]

I play damnation

[ornate hamlet]

My friends are pretty good at the game and we can’t even beat malice

I don’t believe you

[paper trail]

lol

[nimble needle]

Baiter

[solar remnant]

Master

[lavish spruce]

Each of you needs a role and to equip to excel at it

[ornate hamlet]

Explain?

[hexed viper]

stop feeding his bait

[lavish spruce]

If 3 of you are focused on hordes for instance you aren't doing it right

[remote tusk]

Dont feed the troll

[glad void]

spam left click when that fails complain the game is fundamentally flawed

[lavish spruce]

I'm used to ogryn chat we don't get trolls there

[remote tusk]

Psyker chat is just salt and infighting

[paper trail]

Maybe you just don't notice them

[hexed viper]

yeah, no. he posted in general that he beat dif2 on a level 10 psyker and said that the bolt gun needs a nerf, bb needs a nerf and something else

[severe folio]

psykers mess with your mind man

[hexed viper]

he's just bringing the bait in here

[ornate hamlet]

My build is the trauma staff and the devil sword.M

[nimble needle]

Ogryns are obviously a smarter and more cultured people

[lavish spruce]

Ah well,back to work for me anyhow

[ornate hamlet]

Because it’s best for boss damage

[severe folio]

what does your main say about you

[nimble needle]

I'm a Wizard, 'arry

[remote tusk]

Kinda fluffy really. Ogryns are good lads while psykers are bad at socializing and frequently display delusions of grandeur

[nimble needle]

That's not true just look at Mephiston, Lord of De- oh yeah I see what you mean.

[grave bobcat]

My stick is better

[mild tartan]

here's +6 experience for your legendary curio bro

[leaden pier]

base health for psyker without any curio buffs is 150 right?

[grave bobcat]

Indeed

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/GY-iwjM-ajen bruh

[leaden pier]

truly a psyker name

[violet fossil]

preach

[peak grail]

Common psyker W

[leaden pier]

honestly if you could rename characters, id change mine to salami

[violet fossil]

anyone have any tips for the heresy armor penances before I start suffering on them?

[soft prawn]

just noticed I had these, are either of them good?

[mild tartan]

i LOVE RNG. I love waiting for the RNG mission I need to pop up so I can complete my penance, while I check the RNG shop and then check the RNG challenge shop, before checking in with the RNG weapon upgrades 😄

[soft prawn]

I've been using this

[leaden pier]

what's the other heresy penace that isnt the 90% damage on a monstrocity?

[mild tartan]

you could get much better base rating

[mild tartan]

pick n mix

[hasty ether]

game really wants me to go gun psyker...

[violet fossil]

kill 5 elites in 10s with brain burst

[mild tartan]

The challenge is killing elites with your elite killing ability before every other class who does it faster

[soft prawn]

almost 500 rating, sheesh

[violet fossil]

^

[leaden pier]

ah for both i suggest just getting a team that will let you do those

[violet fossil]

but

that's social interaction

[mild tartan]

yes, its very easy if you can tell people to leave them alone, also I think its bugged because it allows you to do the same elite even though I think they're supposed to each be different

[foggy whale]

welcome to discord

[uncut hamlet]

psykers hate talking to anyone whos not their beloved

[leaden pier]

and 90% one have an ogryn with a shield tank the daemonhost

tru

[soft prawn]

[hasty ether]

my secondary weapon colletion......

[soft prawn]

big brain play

[remote tusk]

Both heresy penances for psykers require friends who are willing to waste their time for you to get a new hat

[mild tartan]

yeah the daemonhost is pretty easily mitigated with shield and peril block

[rare steeple]

[leaden pier]

im probably never gonna do the perils of the warp penance

[mild tartan]

lmao same, every single drop the past 15 times has been a gun straight up

[soft prawn]

emprah blesses you

[mild tartan]

This one honestly isn't that bad either if you have an already cooperating team, just have to roll the right elites at the beginning of a level

helps you can do it on malice

[violet fossil]

load into damnation/hi intensity
purgatus staff twice into crowd of ragers
blow yourself up
profit

[leaden pier]

icy

probably might do that

[olive ember]

I have more guns than I do staffs

[remote tusk]

I did it on accident when spawning in a wild horde with the team already dead. Quickplay life

[soft prawn]

what kind of subclasses do you guys think Psyker might get? not familiar with warhammer lore so dont know what psykers are capable of

[severe folio]

they are capable of

[leaden pier]

its the only achievement i need for the 2nd headgear

[severe folio]

every wizardy thing

you can imagine

[soft prawn]

[leaden pier]

also what's the 3rd psyker headgear?

[gray island]

adds goggles

[severe folio]

psyker is just wizard for dnd

[leaden pier]

googles?

[tardy flower]

Astropath maybe?

[mild tartan]

I think thats the one you get for completing all of them

[violet fossil]

ye, i can show a screenshot of the thumbnail

one sec

[mild tartan]

kinetic killer 3 gives you it

[tight saddle]

no Warlock Engineers 😦

[ebon sedge]

Getting an axe from the emperor is like getting a sweater or socks for christmas

[leaden pier]

damn now i feel like achievement hunting

[remote tusk]

The classic psyker disciplines are pyromancy, biomancy, divination, telepathy, telekinesis

[severe folio]

mechanic is for car

[uncut hamlet]

we got telekinesis rn technicall

[mild tartan]

I need a god damn heresy repair mission to pop up so I can do mind over matter

[uncut hamlet]

psykinetic

[soft prawn]

Biomancy and Divination sounds interesting

[mild tartan]

is there a way to check active missions without booting into the game actually?

[soft prawn]

I have no idea what Biomancy is but it sounds cool

[mild tartan]

seeing as they are persistent across everyone

[severe folio]

no

[supple skiff]

another malice quick play that was actually high intensity lol

so much for that

[mild tartan]

that would be greeeat

[violet fossil]

@leaden pier

[severe folio]

control body

buff yourself

[uncut hamlet]

control of life or organic matter id assume

[severe folio]

or debuff other

[leaden pier]

ok that's rad

[severe folio]

yeah basically

[supple skiff]

and lightning cause reasons

[mild tartan]

Poison staff!

[severe folio]

you turn somebody into a slime

[remote tusk]

Transforming bodies. Making blood boil, turn hands to claws, reknit wounds etc

[foggy whale]

up right now https://i.imgur.com/zgBOmVF.png

[uncut hamlet]

do they drop slime balls

I need sticky pistons for a gate

[mild tartan]

sweeet

[severe folio]

your mom do

[glacial socket]

hey does anyone have tips for the perils of the warp penence?

[mild tartan]

thanks bro I was not gonna boot the game up just to check lol

[mild tartan]

Run into damnation, purgatus a couple times, explode

[gray island]

lucky day. low intensity repair popped

[glacial socket]

Ive done nearly every other penance just that one eludes me

[mild tartan]

or get a team to push elites at the beginning of a malice run together

[glacial socket]

do ragers work best for it?

[sinful bramble]

Perils of the Warp - Look for a rager mob, explode on them

Otherwise don't bother

Spam your staff into the ground or something

[severe folio]

dont bother at all

[leaden pier]

can you get downed while your head is gonna explode and it cancels the boom?

[severe folio]

penance suck

[glacial socket]

but hat....

[sinful bramble]

I'm gonna try to Malleus Monstronum tonight anyway :)

[severe folio]

doing penance is like participating in bondage

[glacial socket]

that one isnt bad

[severe folio]

just buy a hat from the shop

[glacial socket]

just shield ogryn and daemon host and you got it

[leaden pier]

yea simplest strat

[glacial socket]

I prefer the reds of the penance hats

[severe folio]

prefern’t

[lethal plover]

would be nice if we had mind control

[leaden pier]

yea the red's pretty neat, but the blue clothes in the shop tho...

[severe folio]

or black

and different style

[lethal plover]

psychic suggestions are a thing, but the only mind controllers in the lore were the enslavers

[severe folio]

i saw someone with hood and goggle mask

[gray island]

i think corruption resist causes a chance for your SD not to cause corruption

[leaden pier]

surprised the vets 3rd penance headwear doesnt have googles

[glacial socket]

Im gonna go into a malice game and try to get the perils achievement, siblings wish me luck

[severe folio]

sd ?

[severe folio]

no

[gray island]

theres been so many time where i self destruct and my wound count stays the same

[severe folio]

oh

going down always cause corruption though

maybe it just cause less corruption ?

i dont even know how many thing cause corruption

[sinful bramble]

Perils explosion should still reduce your wounds

So that's a bug

[severe folio]

wounds ?

[leaden pier]

infested pox walkers cause corruption on health damage

[severe folio]

oh

[sinful bramble]

Wounds is how many downs you have

[severe folio]

i see

[leaden pier]

like 1 point of corruption per hit

[sinful bramble]

If corruption overtakes that little line in your HP that means you don't have that wound anymore

If all the lines in your HP are covered by corruption next time you go down you will instead die

It also reduces your max HP until you get medicae

[severe folio]

so that’s what it called

i thought its just called health segment

so aside from grimmoire, death and pox walker, what else cause corruption ?

[leaden pier]

beast

[severe folio]

hound ?

[leaden pier]

yea that and nurgle

[severe folio]

oh you mean the monstrosity

[leaden pier]

yea

standing in the vomit, getting vomited on for a bit, or it being too "friendly" gives corruption

also being close to an aggrod daemonhost

and staying it the trappers net

gives 1 point of corruption every once in awhile

[misty mica]

hi why here

[severe folio]

no cooldown

anyway

you just dont shoot at him when you see him

and dont run across him

[misty mica]

yea i saw him when he was in my face

cuz thats where he spawned

[severe folio]

you should hear whispering when you around him

that notify theres him around

[sinful bramble]

Beast of Nurgle and Plague Ogryn simply spawn in aggro'd to you

You mean Daemonhost

[misty mica]

bro theres always whispering

[severe folio]

theres

not always whispering

[sinful bramble]

Daemonhost is the "landmine" monstrosity

[severe folio]

unless you’re schizo

[sinful bramble]

Which only leaves if two team members die after it has been triggered

[misty mica]

maybe i should take my pilsl

[sinful bramble]

Beast of Nurgle is the vomit slug monster

[severe folio]

and tbh if theres always whispering

then, theres always a daemonhost lol

[misty mica]

yea ive figured that out by now and it is the only thing i dont like lol

[lucid mortar]

I run gun/knife and 0% peril at all times

[misty mica]

almost killed one after it aggroed from someone else and

welp i was the only damn one shooting at it

[sinful bramble]

It's not worth dealing with 99% of the time

[misty mica]

got it to less than 1/4 and the others were just like bro whyd u aggro it

i literally soloed it to 1/4

[sinful bramble]

The only time it's worth triggering one is for a psyker penanace

[leaden pier]

or getting the penace for 1st banish

[severe folio]

its def not worth attacking at all

[misty mica]

well if its already aggro id rather not just die

lmao

[sinful bramble]

It'd be nice if killing a monstrosity gave you extra rewards at the end of a mission or something

[trail garnet]

I still think daemonhosts should drop Extra crafting supplies

[sinful bramble]

Yeah if it's already aggro'd then you try to kill it

[misty mica]

yea except i was the only one trying

[sinful bramble]

But you should avoid aggroing it at all if possible

[leaden pier]

or if u cant get by it

[severe folio]

so when you hear whispering, I mean real whispering, you should look around to try and tag something