psyker-class

[deft glen]

So once you hit 30 its rng ?

[tribal granite]

yes

[acoustic isle]

Once you hit 30 it's all rng

[fluid vessel]

Yep

The store is fucking awful

[acoustic isle]

As far as im aware

[deft glen]

fuck

[tribal granite]

yes

[fluid vessel]

You have to literally check every hour if you want to rapidly build a character

[deft glen]

https://tenor.com/bOYc0.gif

[stray silo]

Ironically, the best way to get at least two is to go to where your teammate get's down on higher difficulties

I usually see at least a gunner/mauler combo, then you can just find a rager or sumn' running around

[acoustic isle]

I manged to get a void strike staff that reduces secondary charge time by 6% for each hit stacking 5 times

Feels so good to near instant charge

[fluid vessel]

Oh yeah, targetting a person that got downed seems like an easy way to clutch it

[tribal granite]

man if only we had the option to buy specific weapons for a x2 markup

[fluid vessel]

Elites and specials love to run up to downed people and melting them

[tribal granite]

hmmm

[fluid vessel]

Or pickups, though normally it's a group of 2

[tribal granite]

which one would you choose

• Blow up and kill 3 elites
• Blow up and kill 20 enemies

[acoustic isle]

Truthfully i had no qualms with the v2 crafting and loot system

[stray silo]

Rescue spots are also good for it, as the game loves to spawn elites on teammates

[acoustic isle]

Buut that's just me

20 enemies is probably easier

[fluid vessel]

It's scripted to

[acoustic isle]

Since it one shots regular mobs

[fluid vessel]

Enemies only spawn in when you enter an area

[acoustic isle]

And it's easy to get in the middle of a horde

[fluid vessel]

If you see elites and specials on your pickup that's a free spawn courtesy of the game

Normally it spawns gunners, ragers or maulers

[acoustic isle]

Nah my favorite is watching the teleporting door shenanigans

Especially on the repair mission

Or any of the desert ones

[fluid vessel]

My favorite is the Hourglass spawn bug

They didn't put the trigger when you descend the shantytown section in the right place

So if you go over the roofs you get enemies spawning -on top of you-

Which is especially comical because the ledge before that has full vision of the area

The spawn should be when you use the door -that is literally locked-

Overall the spawns are really gamey and fucked up in many areas

I don't like that you can have overview of an area but the enemies only spawn when you drop down

[fresh reef]

Realistically speaking, should I be able to effectively solo a T5 when I have 3 sandbagging randoms or emperor-forbid a bot?

[fluid vessel]

Depends if you can do it on T4

Don't even try if you still have wipes on T4

[ashen ore]

You also have to ask yourself the question are the 3 randoms sandbagging or are you the problem.

[fluid vessel]

To be fair Psyker can often get screwed by their team

I've had cases where I was playing my staff and my team is just... not covering me at all

Like I can do melee but I -shouldn't- be doing melee if everyone else is

Because me and Vet are the special pickers if something bad happens

[stray silo]

That's why I like to use Surge staff

It's a lot easier to charge up for a quick blast in CQC

[fluid vessel]

To be fair the left click already helps with CQC

A quick headshot will clean up a pinky your team is ignoring

The problem is when you are getting zero cover period and a big group of enemies suddenly rushes you

[stray silo]

True, but the lightning is great for wiping out large groups in one go, or at least softening it up

[ashen ore]

I think zealot and vet need to cover psyker and then let ogryn be big

[stray silo]

giving you time to pull out the FS and go to town

[fluid vessel]

Eeh

Vet's job is killing shooters

Psyker can do it but they're not efficient

Zealot and Ogryn should 100 % be zoning though

[ashen ore]

My problem is vets don't ever put their gun away and get overwhelmed or let a flank fall and then we get swarmed and killed

[stray silo]

Vet just focus on targeting Ranged enemies/elites
Psyker should be headpopping specials

And Zealot and Ogryn? Well, they get the simple job

[fluid vessel]

Like, on Haz 4 your Veteran needs to basically be clearing every room of shooters basically always

Or your team is gonna get shit on HARD

[cyan notch]

haz 4

[fluid vessel]

Heresy, what have you

I mean, those missions -are- a hazard

[ashen ore]

Just use grenande launcher on ogryn and no need for vets to kill shooty boys

[hoary warren]

we take those

[cyan notch]

must be nice

[slim mica]

nice one

[stray silo]

Honestly one thing I've noticed is it's generally best as psyker to, when tanky enemies show up, get the one headpop off and then let teammates finish it off, as chances are they'll kill it before you get that second pop off anyway

Maulers, Traitor Ogryn types, what have you

[weary wasp]

spawned into a match
instantly fell through the floor
died
watched a gun psyker with aim and reaction that rivals the darktide bots

[obtuse walrus]

Remember

Spam the 'Need Ammo' voiceline when you wield a staff

[hoary warren]

i run a very agressive psyker, its my favorite build i run all toughness curios and use quitetude. so hard to die on level 5s

and use lightning staff

[obtuse walrus]

Voidstaff my Beloved - with a force sword that can block ranged attacks when I get into a pickle

[frigid zenith]

I like pickles.

I wonder what a 2 surge 2 purg game would look like. That's a lot of damage and CC.

[ebon sedge]

Hwo do you even play Force Sword against the horde?

[tardy flower]

It would look like a lot of enemies shooting at you from a distance

[tacit jungle]

wat, I thought 380 was the highest on mods, cool stuff

[frigid zenith]

Start with block, then do a quick attack, then do a strong attack then do a block again.

[jovial quail]

What constitutes a salvo btw? Like my 2nd and 3rd charged shot? And when does it end, like do I have to wait 5 seconds to start up the salvo again?

[ebon sedge]

I've tried it but this is so clunky and the force push is like the weakest push in the game in terms of range

[frigid zenith]

There's a skill to it for sure and requires some practice. Its more than just swinging, it's more positioning than anything.

The utility you get from force sword is really hard to pass on for one of the other melee weapons that's "easier".

If you use the surge staff it's even easier. Or even the purg staff.

You can push, then CC them with staff if you have to, then go back to whacking.

[analog juniper]

I hate the lack of range with the purge. If only the the 1 was a fireball projectile

[rough dove]

is using brainblast actually worth the hassle ? i'm kinda underwhelmed by it so far ...

[analog juniper]

its a niche use

[frigid zenith]

BB is totally situational.

You can get your target then duck behind a wall and kill stuff.

[echo parrot]

384? 384?! 4 over the assumed max!?

[analog juniper]

bulwarks, maulers, trappers, dogs, snipers, some gunners

[echo parrot]

Holy shit

[frigid zenith]

That has a lot of value.

[tight sierra]

bb increases in value with each non-vet you have on your team, lol

[frigid zenith]

Do you even add bro? it's 380.

If I have a vet doing the long range elite killing that's fine with me. More time for me to focus on CC and smoothing out encounters.

[echo parrot]

What are you talking about

[frigid zenith]

Add the actual modifiers.

79+63+78+80+80 = 380

Display bug probably.

[echo parrot]

Pretty sure the rating is not decided by everything added up

[tight sierra]

anything to resume spam casting unlimited power

[echo parrot]

Actually I say that yet all the modifiers of my staff and knife add uyp to the rating so I could be wrong.

[analog juniper]

they need to buff the damage or crit chance for Surge

[frank lake]

worth gettinig?

[analog juniper]

it should be able to kill things

[delicate stratus]

Pretty decent

[analog juniper]

it's warp lightning for Omnissiah's sake

[delicate stratus]

Good for horde and little dudes, which is what you want your melee to excel at. ^^

That price though...

[random wolf]

I prefer the Mk IV in terms of move list.

[analog juniper]

nothing is worth using over force sword peril block with deflection, sorry

[steel storm]

why does everyone say that feat is so good?

[frigid zenith]

I don't know man, it's a lot... of CC.

[steel storm]

honestly wondering

[random wolf]

You're finally not squishy

[delicate stratus]

Surge is fine for the cc it has tbh

[echo parrot]

Knife exists

[analog juniper]

because you go from being glass into being a tank

[echo parrot]

[random wolf]

You can block shots

[steel storm]

ranged and melee?

[hoary warren]

surge is best staff imo

[analog juniper]

knife cant block bullets

[random wolf]

Yes

[delicate stratus]

Also tact axe is sleeper strong on psyker

[echo parrot]

Dont need to block them if they cant hit you.

[random wolf]

The only thing you can't block are Sniper shots

[echo parrot]

Dodge and smart movement is overpowered

[random wolf]

That goes through lmao

[steel storm]

thats super broken

[delicate stratus]

Deflector very good on damnation though. You can absorb a lot of attention and punishment though you're stuck doing so for a bit.

[steel storm]

I gotta use that feat

[frigid zenith]

A mistake that I see a lot of psykers making with surge in higher difficulty is just spamming it needlessly. CC the front line, wait a couple seconds then do it again so you're not running up your peril.

[echo parrot]

Agreed, it simplifies things a lot

I just am good at going fast

[delicate stratus]

Then again I also feel that voidstrike is best staff cause of its versatility

[analog juniper]

yeah but like it doesnt feel nice to use, just stunning people. even with my near max damage, near max crit, it's not killing trash mobs sometimes.
Surge is only the best cause it stunlocks

[delicate stratus]

So I tend to not be a shield bot 😄

[analog juniper]

Void is overall what people should be using

[hoary warren]

yeah thats the point, you stun lock and switch to your mele and one hit them, thats really good lol

[analog juniper]

Purgatus on certain maps

[delicate stratus]

Cause the only thing void doesn't stun (without full charge) are crushers and sometimes ragers

[echo parrot]

If ony that was the case, because the game loves to throw 3 crushers, 2 shieldy bois, and 2 reapers at you at once way too often.

[hoary warren]

i mean if they buffed it i wouldnt complain LOL

[echo parrot]

Surge is kinda a lifeline on Damnation, and I wish it wasnt.

[analog juniper]

they should buff the crit chance

[frigid zenith]

Surge is going to be best overall, you can carry a bad team with it. Everything else is situational.

[delicate stratus]

I actually learned you can stun big boys with void, it just requires shenanigans

[frigid zenith]

If you have a good team that doesn't require that level of CC then yeah, go for void to up your clear times.

[delicate stratus]

Bulwark can be stunned if you splash them from behind for example

Or headshot a crusher full charge

[echo parrot]

Unicorns are real?

[frigid zenith]

They are.

[delicate stratus]

Reapers can be stunlocked too but you can't hit anything else meanwhile

[frigid zenith]

It's called a Rhino sir.

[steel storm]

lol good teams

[echo parrot]

Oh shit you right

[delicate stratus]

Truly the best feeling is landing such a fat voidstrike that your allies complain about lag

[steel storm]

lmfao

[frigid zenith]

Unicorns are probably some roman dumbass coming home and being really bad at describing a Rhino.

[analog juniper]

lag on voidstrike?

is that a thing?

[delicate stratus]

If you full charge delete an entire horde, sometimes lol.

[echo parrot]

There have been times where I would full charge voidstrike into a double horde (because the AI director is bipolar as hell) and locked up my game until CTD lol

[frigid zenith]

I don't think I've ever lagged in this game.

[delicate stratus]

The noise is deafening too. Feels good.

With this shot I ABJURE THEE

Then it goes boom and then silence for like a second

[echo parrot]

Void is def my fav staff, but I almost always run surge because so many times I have to try and act as a crutch for others.

Its gotten so stale that I leveled a vet to 24 just to have some fun

[delicate stratus]

I try to make void be a crutch for some teams

[steel storm]

sadge

[delicate stratus]

It works kinda if people figure out to focus elites

And just let me dunk on everything else

I wish trauma was better

[primal aurora]

I can't switch to Surge after running with Void. Surge feels useless - can't help when crowded, can't kill basic horde mobs fast enough.

[echo parrot]

I think imma just bench my surge and stop trying to pug damnation

So that I can actually have fun in psyker again

[delicate stratus]

I tried pugging damnation

And its just... ugh

My brother in mankind why are you bringing a revolver to damnation

[primal aurora]

To flex

[cyan notch]

not that bad in my experience

[delicate stratus]

I don't normally bash equipment choices but please

[echo parrot]

I only pug damnation because I can't join the vcs most of the time. Manage to finish most of them, but, surge staff crutch.

Boring

[cyan notch]

most people ive encountered know what theyre doing in damnation

[runic stone]

does ranged damage only mean initial? because when i get kills with this thing from burns i don't think my kill count on contracts go up..

[delicate stratus]

It's probably 60% for me

[cyan notch]

ive used trauma and purg in damnation quickplay and theyre fine enough

[delicate stratus]

Purge is weirdly good depending on setup lol

But everytime I run it there's a flamer zealot

And its just dandy until thirty crushers show up

[ebon jolt]

As far as I know damage modifiers do not affect DoT damage and only damage from the weapon. Making most perks and blessings kind of suck for the flame staff.

[runic stone]

ohhhh

okay

[delicate stratus]

Which is sad cause a burn build sounds fun

[runic stone]

this is my current highest

but i think i switch and upgrade the previous one bc base stats

[delicate stratus]

Warp nexus is dope

[runic stone]

yeah just gotta hope for a good roll

on the purple

[delicate stratus]

I want nexus on a godroll voidstrike

Cause maintaining high peril is easy with it

[runic stone]

oh, right i actually had a question about that

it says "max 5%" and then "stacks 5 times"

[ebon jolt]

You would take warp nexus over warp flurry? I’d assume flurry would be a better pair with transfer peril.

[runic stone]

how does it... stack?

[ornate hamlet]

flurry increases the attack speed with the melee attack or not?

[runic stone]

or is 5% and max stack redundant

[ebon jolt]

Flurry is the stacking faster charge speed.

[woven bridge]

5% at max peril

So up to 25% at 99% peril

[severe folio]

I GOT IT

I ACTUALLY GOT IT

[ebon jolt]

It would be easier if it read up to 25% at maximum peril.

[supple skiff]

2 shops with nothing but bad axes lol

[runic stone]

i don't understand

5% at max peril but 25 at 99

[woven bridge]

Lets say you stay at 10% peril and that gives you 1% crit, it will go up to 5% crit over time. If you stay at 90%+ peril, it will go up to 25% over time

[vocal iron]

what blessings do people usually look for on surge staff

[radiant frigate]

honestly weird for something that should be a baseline functionality

[runic stone]

oh so basically i want to live on the edge

[severe folio]

a lot of thing feels like it should been baseline

thats why this game feels extra torturing

[woven bridge]

High risk high reward

[severe folio]

true 40k experience

[radiant frigate]

depression

[severe folio]

despair

[radiant frigate]

damnation

[delicate stratus]

Dereliction

[gilded cave]

adding Pick n Mix to my list of worst penances in the game along with Going Out With A Bang, Heavyweight Champion and On Overwatch

[runic stone]

all i get are catachan swords in my shop lmao. i haven't seen another forc sword in 3 days...

[radiant frigate]

on overwatch is fucking stupid because 1 magnetic dog will ruin it

[bronze pulsar]

lol i pick n mix was so bad. i like hard achievements that are fun. pick and mix is hard and not fun.

[radiant frigate]

or mutant

most achievements are pretty dumb

[gilded cave]

been trying for 3 days and I can fairly consistently get 4 elites/specials but never the 5th it's either an ogryn that takes too long to die or there is no 5th or some fucking veteran who thinks that the blue glowy outline is just a helpful highlight for their headshots

[delicate stratus]

I randomly got pick and mix without trying.

[radiant frigate]

lovely when your challenges are designed to fuck up your team

[bronze pulsar]

are you doing it alone or with randos? i got mine after like 6 hours of doing damnation alone

[gilded cave]

I am beyond pleased for you

[sly thunder]

I really wanna know why Flamer does like 3x the damage of Purge ;-;

[delicate stratus]

It was a weird experience

[bronze pulsar]

it shoudl be easier after tomorrow when they have private lobbies

[delicate stratus]

Flamer limited by ammo. Purge is not.

Also longass reload speed

[runic stone]

if you're specifically going for that penance, you'd want the 6x warp stack talent, no?

[delicate stratus]

Ye

Which I run normally

[paper trail]

is it confirmed tomorrow patch?

[delicate stratus]

Cause it slaps with voidstrike

[bronze pulsar]

no it doesnt matter, you pop 1 guy, press F and try to pop another 4

[gilded cave]

I tried the 6x warp stack and the damage and peril resistance it provides seem pretty damn meh

[runic stone]

isn't the +6% difference enough to 2-shot things that are normally 3?

[gilded cave]

better off going with kinetic flayer for a free BB every now and then

I don't think so schnoodle

[bronze pulsar]

nah it makes no difference unfortauntely

[gilded cave]

if someone told me that fatshark borked that talent and you don't get the extra 6% from the bonus 2 stacks of Warp Siphon and it was capped at 4 I legitimately would not be surprised

I don't think that's the case but it doesn't feel like it makes any noticeable difference

[delicate stratus]

It feels like it does to me

I can bb 9 times with max stacks before I have to quell

As opposed to 2

[gilded cave]

that's the peril resistance

Inner Tranquility

[delicate stratus]

Yeah. Is that not what we talking about?

[runic stone]

it actually is for flamers on heresy

[gilded cave]

was more specifically talking about Warp Battery

[runic stone]

and ragers

[gilded cave]

which yeah when combined with Inner Tranq you can get more BBs off before having to quell

[delicate stratus]

Ah. Iike battery cause it stacks resistance

[frigid zenith]

Who uses BB?

[delicate stratus]

The damage is negligible and I never notice

Bb is good. Just make use of it when it's good.

[frigid zenith]

Can't be bothered to press G.

[gilded cave]

but if you BBx3 to peril cap then BB at 100 and Ulti then you can BB 2 more times then quell or just do a 3rd and pop

[delicate stratus]

Like sniping annoying gunners or little gunners. Or bombers abd snipers. Or fucking bulwarks because christ they are annoying

[runic stone]

there are definitely times BB is good

it's just a mis-advertised class imo

[vital bough]

The only time BB is good is when your kit has no other options do deal with whatever you're bb'ing

[runic stone]

it's not something you're supposed to use often tbh

[delicate stratus]

Tbh there are some matches I just bb. Because I can delete the critical stuff and then let my tea. Do the rest

'Everything that could kill you is dead or stunned. Be free my children.'

[runic stone]

it's what you want for picking off ranged specials that your veteran can't hit

[delicate stratus]

The zealots love it.

[gilded cave]

if I am not specifically trying to do a penance I use BB in like 3 instances, 1 - if there's a sniper nobody else can hit, 2 - if there's a bulwark and our team has no way of staggering (which shouldn't happen on a heresy run) and 3 - if there's a Beast of Nurgle/Daemonhost that I don't want to stick my force sword into

that's it I think

[runic stone]

it's much better for the veteran to shoot the big meat in front of you than try to line up a shot for the bomber in the back. they do way more damage than you

[frigid zenith]

Question about the dog pouncing penance, I'd killed about a billion of them while on top of people and before getting to people without getting the credit, do you have to BB them while on someone or while they are mid-air about the pounce or something?

[delicate stratus]

I use it to support my vet. Cause both of us killing ranged guys is better than just him doing it

[runic stone]

yeah exactly

it's not a standalone thing

[delicate stratus]

Bb them midair

[runic stone]

it's a support

[frigid zenith]

Gotcha.

[echo parrot]

Midair

[frigid zenith]

Makes sense.

[river sand]

mid air about to pounce you

[gilded cave]

you have to hit them as they are leaping, which is possibly fucked atm because they added the cringe when BB is almost cast to dogs since beta

[delicate stratus]

And yes. That's what psyker is. A ranged support clads.

[gilded cave]

they didn't used to cringe so they'd keep doing their jump

[delicate stratus]

Zealot is to veteran as ogryn is to psyker

[gilded cave]

now if the BB is almost finished just before they jump they cringe and don't jump and I don't think you get the penance

[vital bough]

It's not hard, just RMB charge and LMB when they leap, don't LMB only or you'll stun them before they leap.

[frigid zenith]

All I know for sure is that pickles and cupcakes are awesome.

[severe folio]

bruh

i enter 2 missions

[delicate stratus]

You can lmb a dog for the penance just get the timing down

[severe folio]

both let me fall off the edge while the bot stuck under the laddar

this game man

[delicate stratus]

Or hope they go to space and enjoy thr free penance

[paper trail]

whats error code 2006?

[vital bough]

Yeah but what I'm saying is, before you finish the LMB BB, it'll stun the dog. Stunning the dog is a no-go cause you want him leaping, mid air. Which is why it's easier to do if you RMB charge the BB before you even see the dog leap, and just LMB when you see it leap.

[gilded cave]

that's probably the best method atm, I don't think I ever RMB BB so it never would have occurred to me

[delicate stratus]

Or just git gud with timing 😎

...you are objectively correct though

[vital bough]

RMB is good to charge before you see a poxburster, and insta pop it when you see it.
Same thing for if you hear trapper and bomber voicelines before they pop into view.

[delicate stratus]

I just say this cause I got it randomly with an lmb

[gilded cave]

there's a special level of hell reserved for people who say git gud 😛 down there with traffic wardens and people who talk at the theatre

[delicate stratus]

Listen. I say git gud meaningfully and not as ab insult.

We all must git gud.

[gilded cave]

just wanted to quote firefly tbh

[frigid zenith]

Firefly > all

[kindred edge]

Firefly and The Expanse are my favorite shows of all time

[frigid zenith]

Everything that went on with that show was hilarious.

[minor elk]

What are the best blessings you can get on a Dueling Sword?

[gilded cave]

I dunno I'd be all in favour of a 40K firefly show about a motley band of Rogue Traders and their 'crazy' Psyker stowaway

[zinc phoenix]

Firefly’s implied incest stuff was really gross tbh

[frigid zenith]

The network ordered Joss to film in standard format for better syndication later on, he refused and filmed in wide format, but people had done that before and the network will just cut the edges off and do standard anyways. To combat that he had the actors stand at the very edges of the screen so if they cut it you would see a scene with noone lol.

It is to date, the ONLY canceled TV show to get a AAA film as a follow up.

[zinc phoenix]

Expanse was ok but man Naomi’s acting in the last few seasons sucked ass

[ancient crag]

I got mine when the dog wasn't even close to anyone, I suspect that it's possibly bugged lol

[frigid zenith]

Naomi was fucking ANNOYING

Other than that, A+++++ show.

[kindred edge]

wut

[zinc phoenix]

Shades of Frodo taking it from that Orc? Troll? in the first movie and massively over acting it

[zinc phoenix]

Watch the first episode again and try not to barf

The only thing that really makes firefly not awful is whedon never had time to really f it up with his inability to plan or close out stories

[frigid zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/j-alexander-antm-americas-next-top-model-clutches-pearls-clutch-neck-gif-21070072

[zinc phoenix]

Also the prostitute stuff did not age well lmao

[frigid zenith]

Fuck aging well. It was great.

[supple skiff]

most dont

[zinc phoenix]

Also Battlestar Galactica was way better and made at the same time

But it didn’t get canceled because the show was genuinely good

[frigid zenith]

BSG in the last season went off the deep end with their religion bullshittery.

[zinc phoenix]

I date it to that relationship between that tiny girl and Lee Adama. Everything after that episode is pants on head

[frigid zenith]

They could have just left all that shit out and it would have been better.

[zinc phoenix]

Everything before that episode is some of the best space tv ever made

[frigid zenith]

edward olmos brought that shit home.

Fucking spectacular actor.

He made that show. He brought a crazy level of emotion and meaning to that entire thing.

[zinc phoenix]

💯

That man must have shoulder strength of atlas because he carried that show hard

[quasi bloom]

And S1 finale is one of the best season finales of any show all-time

[frigid zenith]

James Callis did a really good job and being a fucking coo coo for co co puffs crazy person too.

Non of these shows have anything on Babylon 5 though.

B5 is the greatest science fiction show that has ever been.

It sits on its own level. Nothing to compare it to.

[zinc phoenix]

Unfortunately it looks like trash today

Someone should do a remaster of that garbage tier CGI 🤣

[frigid zenith]

Sure. season 1-3 are a little sketch on the production value.

Can't be done.

You would have to refilm it.

Something is going to happen with it though, the original creator is remaking B5 like they did BSG.

If it wasn't the original guy I would be against it.

[zinc phoenix]

Idk having watched the original BSG as a kid… I’m glad the original people weren’t really involved with the remake 😂

[prime herald]

Am I missing something about the Force Sword push? The number of enemies staggered/knocked away seems really tiny

[severe folio]

what the hell is this topic

[bronze pulsar]

question.....for warp flurry (-x% charge time on chained secondary attack, stacks up to 5) what do i have to do to actually trigger it? and how long is the stack

[frigid zenith]

It will push/stagger anything in a frontal cone in melee range.

How effective it is also might be tied to you stamina?

[random wolf]

RIP how it used to work

I almost miss it

[bronze pulsar]

i think i kinda answered it...testing in the psykarium shows a chained attack is when you hold down teh charge...after attackign it straight goes into antoher attack. however the stack duration seems like garbge because i have a -8% charge per stack staff and i certainly dont see a -40% charge time after multiple casts. also from a practical standpoint by then i blow up unless i have special ready

i think interruptible is probably better.

[tight saddle]

I'm pretty sure that blessing hasn't been working for a while now.

I don't think it worked in the beta either.

[oak canopy]

sup guys, I'm new to the psyker what are warp charges?

[grave bobcat]

Currency

[oak canopy]

huh?

[grave bobcat]

hm?

[valid crow]

Stacks you get by killing enemies with brain burst

Or with feats

It increase dmg you do

[oak canopy]

ohhhhh

[valid crow]

And interact with other feats

Mostly lvl30s

[oak canopy]

so it increases dmg only for psychic powers, or all weapons?

[valid crow]

Should be all damage

[oak canopy]

ok, what is the most fun staff 4 u guys

[valid crow]

I like voidstrike but testing purgatus at the moment

[oak canopy]

ok, i like the surge but from videos it seems underpowered

[valid crow]

It's mostly used as support, you do CC and team kills everything

[valid crow]

Wow it exists

[deft glen]

just got that on reset

[valid crow]

Haven't found anything better in a couple days

[severe folio]

i cant believe they have a bullpup lasgun

the future truly is grimdark

[kindred edge]

Maybe it's my blatant fanboy status but I'm not seeing it. Just watched the first episode at 2x speed and didn't see anything weird.

[prime herald]

I'm seeing that, it just looks like it's barely staggering/pushing like 3 groaners out of a mob in that space, feels really puny even compared to regular weapon pushing

Didn't seem to scale with peril or warp charges or anything

[deft glen]

Is "Going out with a bang" glitched ?

[patent steeple]

btw which one is better overall on psyker: force sword or assault chainsword?

[cyan echo]

force sword

[zinc phoenix]

i just know that if i interacted with my sister the way those characters interact in the show i'd get punched real hard

[delicate stratus]

All weapons are good at something. Just pick a 'thing' you prefer to be good at. Psyker is really good at flexing his specialty

[bronze pulsar]

no i did it a couple days ago

[bronze pulsar]

depends on the staff you're using. if you're doing purgation you suck against single target and force sword helps. if you're doing lightning i like chainsword for horde clear because your team will be dealing with the big targets

[plucky hemlock]

anyone got an easy strat for Going Out With a Bang?

[kindred edge]

Yeah, but like, odds are you didn't rescue your sister from a secret government program that was torturing her in order to break her mind and then have to smuggle her away from said government.

[patent steeple]

i use trauma due to high area dmg and staggers.

[zinc phoenix]

why do you hate yourself?

[bronze pulsar]

for going out with a bang, its like 10x easier with a team. solo there's no strat other than running damnations with bots and hoping you find a good mob at the start that you can blow up on. cc them with lightning staff so you dont die and also it'll let your explosion actually kill them. took me like 6 hours solo it sucked

[zinc phoenix]

i know people be hating on psyker but i love how flexible the class is

[delicate stratus]

Trauma good. Just difficult to use sometimes. Also it's damage is way lower than its intended to be currently.

[zinc phoenix]

not the highest damage output but never helpless in any situation

[delicate stratus]

Psyker can have insane damage output sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

the damage output is low, the peril output is high and you have to manually aim it

[delicate stratus]

The stagger is unmatched and knocks down everything. Including bosses.

It has a use case.

[zinc phoenix]

well i didnt hate on the stagger but you get better results from shock staff on that too in 99% of cases

[patent steeple]

well i dont like lightning staff anymore after i accidentally triggered a demonhost through the upper floor.

[cyan notch]

really it knocks down beast of nurgle?

[zinc phoenix]

LMAO

[delicate stratus]

Oof

[zinc phoenix]

zapper psykers and daemonhosts NAMID

[cyan notch]

you can do one free zap

[zinc phoenix]

in fairness i accidentally brainburst one

it was mad

[cyan notch]

it takes some damage before aggroing

[kindred edge]

I would be too lmao

[patent steeple]

i zapped it with a full charge.

[cyan notch]

nice you probably crit too

[edgy hearth]

Finesse important on the force sword?

[primal aurora]

One thing that baffles me the most is that one class that can telepathically detect elites nearby and psionically highlight them for the team even through walls is Veteran.

[kindred edge]

Yeah, that is pretty weird. Would have been neat to give wallhacks to psyker and give the vet a huge suppression buff or something

Like, suppression buff, RoF increase, massive reload speed increase, etc..

[jovial frigate]

is perk reroll out yet

[kindred edge]

Even makes more sense with the name Volley Fire

No.

[jovial frigate]

ah yes thank you fartshart for giving me perk reroll this week last week

i now know last week is next week

[west galleon]

How many % peril is 100%peril really

[primal aurora]

roughly 100

[west galleon]

But you dont go boom on 100% all the time

[kindred edge]

You go boom if you finish a warp attack animation while at 100%

IIRC

[night crane]

And don't hit f

[west galleon]

Yea was about to say, worst case you hit F but i am wondering how much wiggle room you have in the "dangerzone"

With and without the wrath

[night crane]

Couple seconds on trying to cast while maxed

[west galleon]

I need to play around with that a little, i wonder... does anyone know if you are animation locked to explode or can you vent the peril last second?

Because i think i was already a second in the animation once when i hit f and it worked but im not too sure

[primal aurora]

Btw, I'm curious, anyone else gave up on Warp charges? I find 15% cooldown reduction on elite kill aura more useful, along with BB hastening 30 lvl feat. I think I only ever get charges from random 10% free BB feat and fast BB after ult on tanky targets.

[kindred edge]

You can use F while in the about-to-explode animation, yeah

[west galleon]

Hmm thats pretty neat

Thanks for the replies, will go back to... stuff...

[sick kindle]

🤨 Stuff, huh?

I bet it's heresy. I think he's a traitor.

[kindred edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fuzz-shame-gif-26273082

[west galleon]

"i am loyal to the throne"

[primal aurora]

stuff with mechandrites isn't hentai as long as you pray to Omnissiah

[stray silo]

If you can git gud with Psyker

it's easily the most adaptable class in the game

[magic burrow]

Psyker is fun because big boom

[stray silo]

Like, Psyker can peril tank
Psyker can one shot (most) specials and make killing elites much easier
Surge/Flame staffs make horde wiping stupid easy
And of course you got FS that can either do high single target damage or swing quickly to cleave through hordes

If you get good at quick swapping, Psyker is goated

[pure lion]

Maybe I’m crazy, but I swear yesterday I was at 100%, started to get the purple cracks “about to explode/oh god my hands” animation, and was able to break out of the animation with just ordinary quell (F was on cooldown)

[idle shuttle]

should I have a pocket ogryn or vet..

[primal aurora]

I like Psyker because the class doesn't require accuracy and you aren't in melee most of the time like Zealot.

[stray silo]

Ogryn

Psyker can do pretty much anything a vet can

[pure lion]

Why not both

[idle shuttle]

if you dont cast over 97%

[sick kindle]

Peril blocking with a rapier gives me life. With the right setup you can even peril block a demon host on Damnation.

[idle shuttle]

you can quell

[sick kindle]

Criminally underrated talent.

[idle shuttle]

97 is the number.

[magic burrow]

regarding staves, I think Voidstrike is probably the best staff, at least for me it is. People who like different playstyles may gravitate towards the flame staff or the palpetine staff, but with flame you completely sacrifice range and with the lightning staff you have UNLIMITED POWERRR, until a horde shows up. Voidstrike staff chews through hordes and still staggers enough to hold off elites. The Trauma staff is just plain bad. It's a more difficult to use voidstrike with less range and way more peril.

[kindred edge]

Peril blocking is pretty agreed to be the best in slot for that level, isn't it?

[stray silo]

I like to use Surge personally, but that's just my preference

[low fossil]

i like the antrax axes push attack so i never have stamina so peril block is a plus

[worthy wasp]

Depends on playstyle. Surge is better for a melee centric playstyle and Void is better for a staff centric playstyle

[grave bobcat]

Music

[worthy wasp]

Imho

[grave bobcat]

Ascendant Blaze or Kinetic Barrage

[idle shuttle]

use a lasgun

[worthy wasp]

I prefer KB because its the only level 30 talent that doesnt blow your warp charges

[grave bobcat]

deal

[magic burrow]

One idea I had regarding the Trauma staff was to make it an AoE damage over time field that lingers and just damages anyone that walks into the effect. That way you could cast the field and go melee ham while your staff still does damage.

[grave bobcat]

Just wanted you to pick what I'm about to do for my build lmfao

[kindred edge]

Coruscation staff from VT2

[pure lion]

When an item perk says it provides “+1 stamina,” does that mean your maximum stamina increases by 1%? 10%? Or what? It’s very unintuitive.

[primal aurora]

Nah, Trauma just need some numbers tweaking to be more useful than Void vs crowds at short range, but worse at longer range. Right now Void outshine Trauma in almost everything.

[sick kindle]

God I hope that makes it in the game. That would fit my current horde clear playstyle perfectly.

[magic burrow]

purgatus staff already fills the close range niche

[primal aurora]

I like boom-corpses -fly-everywhere rather than weird flame.

[grave bobcat]

Was playing with a dude called Maxine from here aearlier and he is the firstr persson I have ever seen actually make the purge work lol

[magic burrow]

I think the 10% chance to brain burst on attack feat works with purge, which is interesting

[kindred edge]

It does, but the cooldown makes it nothing special

[grave bobcat]

I mean it does but I'm not using it for dps

15s is aids

[magic burrow]

the cooldown is for each enemy separately, or so I was told

[grave bobcat]

Purge should be using 6 stacks since you got lvl 30t talent

I is not

[tight saddle]

What were they doing?

[magic burrow]

if it isnt, it should be

[grave bobcat]

No idea

[grave bobcat]

No thats busted

But their stun locking

Was really really good

To the poiint I could frontline

[magic burrow]

whats busted is pressing a button and getting free wallhacks

[kindred edge]

Nah.

[tight saddle]

Isn't that just the lmb cancel?

[grave bobcat]

No idea

don't think they knew about it tbh

It might be just good positioning tbh cause of the janky ass build I currenrtly have

[tight saddle]

And knowing the timing to stop it from blowing up is hard unless you play the staff a lot.

[grave bobcat]

MEans they could always be behidn em

[regal jasper]

I spent 3 hours trying to get the not so fast penance and got it on accident after giving up -_-

[primal aurora]

Purge staff require way more skill and effort than I' comfortable with while playing Psyker.

[grave bobcat]

👍

[kindred edge]

Game just wanted to break your spirit

[regal jasper]

Guess so

I got it tho

[primal aurora]

I got Pick'n'mix almost in same way.

[tight saddle]

I'm not good enough on purg to consistently do the lmb cancel and stop it from blowing up without F every single time.

[grave bobcat]

Seemed fine to me

[tight saddle]

I just never use it

[grave bobcat]

F is for saving your life ❤️ lmao

[tight saddle]

Yeah but you can use purg without ever needing F if you're good with it for both inf lmb/rmb

That's not me lmao

[magic burrow]

there was a pretty good purgatus staff in the contract shop yesterday, but I didnt have the tokens for it

[regal jasper]

How do i really use the staffs alt fire

Do i charge it then press normal?

[primal aurora]

Do you think we will get some sort of nerf to Block with peril feat?

[grave bobcat]

Eh you see me getting grabbed by mutie and dogs all the time. We allf uck up at some point lol

[frigid marten]

like passive quell for non force weapon reduced?

[magic burrow]

I havent played around with that much yet. I only got a deflector sword the other day. What makes that peril blocking feat so good?

[primal aurora]

Maybe. Right now I switched from Force sword to an axe. Ironically FS is worse at blocking and melee than regular weapon.

[tight saddle]

It uses your peril before your stamina, letting you use your stamina for other things.

[sick kindle]

I'm not sure why that'd be wholly necessary. The tradeoff between force sword and rapier for peril blocking is more melee blocks, but unable to handle ranged. As it stands right now it is a decision of a tradeoff you have to make with neither option being better than the other.

In other words, two viable options and playstyles with the talent. That's what talents are for, yes? Build diversity?

[grave bobcat]

Keth you playin?

Also I was checking the dmg in case you were curious

t5 gunners take gouhly 9 shots to nuke my toughness

SO even with 93% resis

They still nuke us lol

[tight saddle]

Idk yet, depends on if my friends are able to continue our campaign in another game

[grave bobcat]

np

Was supposed to get a call today for something so woke up early and they never rang lo

[tight saddle]

I'm over here using FS without deflector ON PURPOSE

[grave bobcat]

Slepey today

Prob explains the decision making behind me using dagger gun again

[primal aurora]

I really want to like FS, but not having an option to block and hit relatively safely hurts my survivability a lot.

[grave bobcat]

?

[bronze sierra]

@tight saddle campaign?

[sick kindle]

The times people care most about blocking are when trying to get out of a bad situation or get someone else out of one. Ranged enemies are a huge threat in later difficulties and deflector with that talent can help you save someone where otherwise shooters would knock you out of revive.

[bronze sierra]

Wait

[tight saddle]

Divinity Original Sin 2

[bronze sierra]

Oh

[sick kindle]

FS has significantly slower passive quell, so the generation will stop much, much sooner than a non-force weapon

[bronze sierra]

Gud game

[mild tartan]

Are randoms usually just trolling or something? I feel like a lot of these people are definitely killing themselves intentionally though why they would do that escapes me.

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

Penance lads

[mild tartan]

Like, during a horde rush, you're on heresy, you run directly across the map away from everyone for no particular reason and inevitably get downed. Like, have you ever beaten a heresy run ever? how if so?

[wary tendon]

ooh I didn't think about how deflector would work when reviving but of course it would

[primal aurora]

Fatshark is doing Chaos work, driving people crazy.

[sick kindle]

It's pretty goated and you should play around with it sometime if you have the perk.

[wary tendon]

haven't found one yet

but i will when I get one🙂

[sick kindle]

Probably people who think coherency is optional and not a silent buff to your toughness reduction and passive generation that stops at 0 if you have no one near you. So yeah.

I have no idea why they do not stress the importance of that specifically in the tutorial.

[magic burrow]

looking for grimoires to pick up and give that juicy corruption bar

[sick kindle]

I legitimately thought it was a bug for grimories to keep corrupting you past 33%, assuming they worked as they did in VT2. Nope. Even one book will eventually corrupt your health to 2.

I'm not a fan of grims at present, needless to say. It makes picking them up effectively setting a fire under your ass to finish a mission and griefing in higher difficulty pugs.

[worthy wasp]

Purg is weird

Its not a bad staff but

I feel like it shares too similar a role with Zealot+Flamer

And I feel as tho Zealot functions better without having a ranged option than Psyker does

[lucid mortar]

tuff

[lunar gulch]

Is it normal for staff kills to not count for range kills?

[tight saddle]

Are you talking about the weekly?

[lunar gulch]

Yes

[fierce spade]

can someone help me with "going out with a bang"? its the only one im missing for the helm with mask 😦

[tight saddle]

Weeklies are bugged and don't always count if you load into a mission that already started, even if it's still at the start of the mission.

[random wolf]

Apparently if the kill count for you is 0

It's doesn't count for the weeilies

[mild tartan]

Also for things like challenges theres no reason not to just speed through an easier level with them

[random wolf]

And I've had premade 4-mans where some had 0

While others had kill amounts

[lucid mortar]

Yeah they really need to fix that 0 kill BS

doesn't count scrips or grims either

[tight saddle]

Isn't the bug that it allocates 0 you you even if you did kill?

[lucid mortar]

yep, it like drops all of your stats for that match

[tight saddle]

Good to know

[sacred lodge]

I feel like I'm missing something for the pick n mix penance

[wet jacinth]

So force sword push attacking giving 4% peril

[grave bobcat]

if you hold itdown

[wet jacinth]

Though my friend says it shouldnt give peril anymore

[fierce spade]

the block has 2 stages

[tight saddle]

Push doesn't, push attack does.

[fierce spade]

first onejust pushes with no peril

[wet jacinth]

I know the difference. Push vs push attack

[mint burrow]

Are you using the level 30 talent that speeds up your BB?

[fierce spade]

if you hold the button, it does a second push thats stronger, albeit costing peril

[wet jacinth]

I see so it was the push specifically that doesnt have peril gain anymore

[wet jacinth]

@fierce spade

[fierce spade]

im not talking about push attack

[tight saddle]

Yep, and the order was nerfed to compensate compared to beta. It's still decent though.

[wet jacinth]

And I'm telling you I already know the difference

[wet jacinth]

I see. Time to tell my friend he got yet another thing wrong

[grave bobcat]

We're remindng you

in case you didn't know

[wet jacinth]

And I stated Push Attacking.

Not push

[grave bobcat]

Push attackign

Is wehn you hold down left lcick whiel blockiogn

And it will perform a unique attack

[sacred lodge]

I am, every time I try to go for it someone else bb's first. or the veteran (shakes fist) gets the shot off first

[wet jacinth]

Hence I said Push attack. Not Just Push on it's own. I've played Vermintide extensively as well. I know what it is.

[grave bobcat]

Vermintide is a different game

[sacred lodge]

I didn't think I would develop a rivalry with another class, much less the most played class by a wide margin

[wet jacinth]

I was specifcally asking about force swords Peril gain when doing it

[mint burrow]

Yeah it’s a pain

[wet jacinth]

Push/push attack is still the same system there too..

[grave bobcat]

Vermintide doesn't have Psykers or Force Sword

not the same

[wet jacinth]

Push/Push attack isnt exclusive to psyker/force sword. Hhh

Regardless you didnt answer my initial question

[mellow valley]

Hello can anyone help me out with going out with a bang?

[dusky lion]

Yeah push is free, push attack costs 4%.

[mellow valley]

i didnt want to ruin people games

so left it

[dusky lion]

Kinda useful for the damage with force weapons trait, if you run it.

[sacred lodge]

yeah I think I'm just going to need to get a couple friends to do these last two penances with, there's no way around it

in the meanwhile... uh... I GUESS I can start leveling other classes? see how they feel

[fluid vessel]

PSYKER GANG

[wet jacinth]

[fluid vessel]

Bottom text

[edgy hearth]

opinion on sword?

[frigid zenith]

Shame on the finesse.

[minor elk]

Fellow wytches, I must ask:

[spiral remnant]

Solid sword

[minor elk]

Should I get the MkV instead?

[spiral remnant]

I like V more personally

Feels a bit lighter

But the stats are pretty negligible at that point

[edgy hearth]

Finesse important for the force sword?

[grave bobcat]

Not really

It rarely ever crits, but does make it faster at least

And now I'm asking msyelf the same quesiton

Because of the weakpoint

While using the special

[night marten]

if you plan on using it in higher difficulties I would guess you notice the attack speed difference, but I've never tested a big difference between the low and high end

it might be the case that it doesn't have much of an effect so you just don't care, that's been the case with a couple other weapon/stats

[grave bobcat]

Prio mobility/damage more

[spiral remnant]

What does finesse do again

[grave bobcat]

Cause it hits the movement hard wth its penalt y

[night marten]

damage for sure, mobility is nice but I just wouldn't want to be giving you a negative modifier

[grave bobcat]

Oh

First hit too

thats super important

[olive ember]

Damage and first hit

honestly mobility is also a dump stat

or atleast I haven't noticed any problem with my force sword

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051940189737590845/image.png

[frigid marten]

Fc have always infinite dodge

[grave bobcat]

Isn't warp res

[night marten]

providing it's not giving you negative modifiers

[grave bobcat]

its dump stat

atually

[night marten]

think it could be, depends on how much you lean on the special attack

[grave bobcat]

I refuse ot beiieve otherwise

lol

[velvet spear]

just nabbed this on the store, think it's worth trying to improve?

[grave bobcat]

it is

[night marten]

but you're right in that mobility would be more important

[grave bobcat]

Peronsally i prefer al ot of mobility anyway

but warp res is definitly uselss

[tight saddle]

My question is does warp resist on fs reduce peril from kinetic deflection? I've never tested it or paid attention to it.

[grave bobcat]

Why give me more questions

[tight saddle]

Hey now, I'm asking in case anyone figured it out. Testing it yourself is on you lol.

[grave bobcat]

You knewe i would

[tight saddle]

Lmfao

I guess a more broad question would be if all warp resist modifiers applied to all peril effects universally. Knowing Fatshart that'll be a big stinky no.

[grave bobcat]

That i know

I think

Which is yes

I remember reading taht elsewhere

[uneven sparrow]

Tark Dide

[frigid zenith]

If bleed perks and blessing apply to grenades they might actually.

There's some funky shit going on there.

[wet jacinth]

iirc Vet has a Feat that Gives his grenades 8 stacks of bleed

[worthy wasp]

Damn, I really want to like Dueling Swords but I cant

[grave bobcat]

Good

[worthy wasp]

They either have shit horde clear or shit elite killing potential

[grave bobcat]

Super enjoying dagger ahain

[wet jacinth]

Dueling sword just feels like a slower Dagger.

[grave bobcat]

And blled does barely any dmg

[tight saddle]

Here, in case you guys haven't read this masterpiece. https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zjv5tf/really_happy_to_see_that_fatshark_learned_from

[grave bobcat]

lmao i have it open in a tab

[tight saddle]

It had me laughing last night and then I got sad all over again.

[grave bobcat]

My throat actually really hurts

from yesterdya

[tight saddle]

I used to hate Toughness, but now I'm okay with the system and I hope they adjust different values soon.

[wet jacinth]

No more sippy healing draughts

[brisk panther]

look what i found today. decent?

[mint burrow]

Warp resistance is bad but it’s also cancelled out by transfer peril. Overall fantastic imo

[fluid vessel]

Oh, THAT is how people get that

[brisk panther]

so how do i do the animation cancel? just m2, m1, r -> repeat?

[fluid vessel]

Feels good

[night marten]

welcome to the cool club

[wet jacinth]

the hoodie

[fluid vessel]

Just need to do the nonsense suicide achievement and play more missions and I get a -cooler- hoodie

[primal aurora]

12 more missions, but I'm a bit burnt out

[wet jacinth]

Do it

[lethal plover]

anyone getting backend error when signing in?

[night marten]

do some chill missions, or take a break for a day and come back fresh

[grave bobcat]

I think the burnout is cause of the easy mission spam lol

[night marten]

not everything needs to be high intensity heresy/damnation (if that's causing the burnout)

[fluid vessel]

You can do the thing

[versed karma]

Stressing enough in pugs

[fluid vessel]

I'm at the same stage as my Veteran

[tiny parrot]

Good luck with that achievement, it's a pain for sure. (Shouldn't be too bad with a group atleast).

[fluid vessel]

Need to do a few more Heresy missions and then a mountain of grinding

[fluid vessel]

Yeah, planning to wait to have a proper pre-made, though I might have to wing it

[tiny parrot]

nothing quite like a sharpshooter capping the ragers about to maul you to death as you're exploding

[primal aurora]

Nope, not the stress or anything, just the game is bit too simple. Not easy, just simple.

[tight saddle]

solo quickplay Damnation makes it spicier and more fun

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[night marten]

you're not wrong, problem is if you spend 30 minutes banging your head against damnation with an unsuccessful pug, you haven't made any progress towards that mission completion count you're trying to chip at

can make burnout worse

[tight saddle]

that's why I just don't complete certain weeklies, makes life happier

[primal aurora]

I mean leveling was interesting. Trying different weapons, finding new stuff, learning new things. But now I just go with Void staff and it is still a bit fun, but novelty isn't there anymore.

[grave bobcat]

I was gonna suggest

Try chaign your buiild

Changing*

And try to make it work

[tight saddle]

there are a lot of intricacies in this game with different weapons and certain tech you can do to make things fun

[dusky lantern]

go fast with knife and you'll have fun

😄

[tight saddle]

For example if I played Psyker like the average player does I would kms

[stone narwhal]

Is the lighting staff just pointless? It's cool and fun, but omg it takes forever to kill anything unarmored.

[tight saddle]

with how boring it is

[primal aurora]

how average player plays psyker?

[dusky lantern]

knife slide into a pack of range mobs and switch to purg staff and LMB1 and watch them burn

[night marten]

purge+FS(deflector) is a very fun playstyle I would recommend, though the majority of people would say it's less optimal than axe+surge.

[grave bobcat]

I'd really like to ssee you do this on damnation without someone having to save

[tight saddle]

they don't slide cast/quench/bb, they don't infinite 100% peril staff cast animation cancel, they don't BB the right targets at the right time, they don't know how to melee (not just Psykers), they don't know the different breakpoints of different values to safely stagger/kill something between weaving in 100% peril cast, and MANY more things.

[grave bobcat]

I'm doing melee only rn

The gun is for emergencies

[tight saddle]

go mk1 claw for big bonks betweens agrip brrts

[grave bobcat]

But trying to melee only damnation is keeping me engaged

[acoustic isle]

To be fair a good half of that is just general game knowledge for every class that you need to knoe to play efficiently

[grave bobcat]

And its fun tbh

[grave bobcat]

No dagger go zom

Cant' wait until actually get a decent one

[acoustic isle]

Though that isnt me saying you're wrong by any means. I just think these things need to be encouraged across the board

[slate chasm]

hello, any tallent builds?

[primal aurora]

To be honest a lot of what you listed is goes against my view on having fun. I don't play to be 100% peril staff macro and so on.

[grave bobcat]

Ignore me then 😢

See if i care

[dusky lantern]

did a heresy run with it but not damnation. I just run into a pack of ranged to stop them shooting then slide back into cover and stagger them if I can with purge LMB1

[grave bobcat]

imma eat my salmon

[grave bobcat]

I've been doin Damn runs with this, but I relly want to do a high intesity know I'd prob get fucked lol

[dusky lantern]

the good thing about knife is you can dodge slide the range shots to get to the pack if they're shooting relatively safely

[acoustic isle]

So force sword with the blessing to block ranged shots. Yay or nay?

[grave bobcat]

Nay bullets are vital food for you to live

[wet jacinth]

I like being riddled with bullets by gunners

Gives me 500% of my daily bullet intake

[grave bobcat]

Please lords of the shop, give me a good dagger next reset 😦

[acoustic isle]

Is that you who likes it or your beloved?

Please fatshark implement better crafting so we can just cycle roll until we get what we want lmao

[wet jacinth]

Armory coping be real

I just want a good force sword but the shop keeps giving me guns as options

[magic burrow]

here have another 295 stat machete with a 10% bonus damage to grandma modifier

[grave bobcat]

If I must 😦

[acoustic isle]

Sorry granma i need to send you to the warp

[grave bobcat]

Wonder if there is anyway I can increase how much dmg this bleed does cause like

6 stacks iso nly 9 dot 😦

But making them bleed sounds fun

[magic burrow]

it should not be possible to upgrade a curio at level 30 and get a bonus to experience mod. That's just a BS dead roll.

[fresh reef]

pov: you queued for Damnation quickplay

[acoustic isle]

Honestly bonus exp as a stat just shouldnt exist to begin with

Not on an item at least

[grave bobcat]

It reminding me of this clip ^

[wet jacinth]

It's still funny to me Ogryn can slide and evade ranged attacks

[teal needle]

The ogryn butt slide is 👌

[night marten]

make sure you do at least one 360 while sliding into or while on elevators, starting a level, or heading to extraction

for style points

[acoustic isle]

Remember that if you are an ogryn with a stubber to spam right click for the memes

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone wanna do the pick n mix penance?

[rotund marsh]

looking for some expert info here:
I'm currently running with a Force Sword and Purgatus Staff and are quite enjoying it (3,2,1,1,3,2) but I'm only playing Malice so far.
Is this a good build to keep playing onto the t4 and 5 difficulties or do you have any other nice suggestions?

[muted wyvern]

Wish I knew which 2 damn Mission types I still need for my Penance…

[lethal plover]

purgatus and force sword is quite a decent combination for clutching and horde clearing

[night marten]

if you're already running purge+AB, maybe try warp battery instead of kinetic flayer

having those two extra charges can make your ult feel more impactful, and somewhat help with peril building while spamming purge's secondary

[scarlet geyser]

what build should i use for Psyker on heresy+?

[muted wyvern]

Surge boyz 4 lyfe

[rotund marsh]

allright, will give that a try (although it's satisfying to see those random BB procs :P)

[lethal plover]

axe/force sword + any of the 4 staves/mk 12 lasgun can clear damnation easily

if you want the easiest, I probably recommend axe+surge

[night marten]

sure is, but how often are you proccing on poxwalkers instead of something useful?

[rotund marsh]

that is very, very true 😛

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatore is nice coz its the only staff that generates warp charges, with 6 of them +more dmg with more perril u can keep flaming on 100% at all times doing insane dmg. Problem is with the team who will try to fight u for horde clearing leaving ranged to gun u down, and noone will cover the back wich will interupt your channeling and make u explode.

[night marten]

problem with purge and kinetic flayer is that you're doing wide, imprecise damage. So you have little control over who gets randomly popped

[devout belfry]

Wouldn't be too bad for alts... If we could share gear.

[night marten]

if you're running with a premade regularly, consider giving psykinetic's aura a try instead of psychic communion

[lethal plover]

yeah you need lasguns on your team. and force sword to cover you when lasgunners are down or away. But once you get in range you can spray all over the gunners and they will be perma CC'ed

[muted wyvern]

I’m running FS and Surge for tier 4/5. You’re gonna rely on your team a bunch to actually kill shit, but the CC from Surge is indispensable imo. You can clutch some dope stuns.

[night marten]

communion is a safer choice if you're solo and can't rely on team coherency as much, but as a team I think you get much more benefit out of aura if you're consistently playing together

[acoustic isle]

Considering even muties get stunned. Yeah it's useful lmao

[scarlet geyser]

right now i'm running fs/surge too, but feel so weak in terms of damage and brain burst damage

[muted wyvern]

It brings me ridiculous joy to watch a mutie stop dead in its tracks

[scarlet geyser]

is my only role is controller?

[muted wyvern]

Or also drop my buddies and then get rekt

[weary idol]

well it's the only role that psyker does better than the other ones, you can do other roles

but being a controller is what psyker is better at than the others

[acoustic isle]

If you're running surge yeah you're probably not gonna see the kills roll in. But you'll be valuable to everyone

[night marten]

it's one of the best roles, definitely with a surge staff, but you can also run purge or void for different playstyles. whether it's "optimal" is an ongoing debate

[lethal plover]

get the axe to mow down horde without effort and so you can pay attention to other threats
it's mk5 antax axe + peril block feat at level 20

[acoustic isle]

Force sword mouse 5 is super helpful to get that stray elite you need dead

[muted wyvern]

Nah, you get random Brain bursts if you talent too. Also, with the FS you can do pretty nutty damage to kill big fuckers.

[weary idol]

i'm quite fond of gun psyker as a special/elite killer because while warp charges are worthless for most things, they actually provide significant breakpoints to most ranged weapons

[grave bobcat]

its "worthless" not worthlesss omg

[ornate hamlet]

When i play psyker i feel like im in the frontline covering the back, killing everyting and controlling everything. While my teammates doing nothing and let random zombies hit me in the back.

[weary idol]

and also fully automatic weapons trigger the free brain burst basically on demand

[vestal cosmos]

plz explain to the uninitiated

[weary idol]

10% chance on hit every 15 seconds for a brain burst

[hot tulip]

It's ONE of Psykers main strengths ya

He does have access to high damage potential but with a cast time, and requires positioning better than the other three to do so

[weary idol]

automatic weapon shoot very fast hit many time

[vestal cosmos]

Oh

[acoustic isle]

Yep high chance you proc it

[vestal cosmos]

oh my

[acoustic isle]

So let loose on the crusher

[ornate hamlet]

Doesn't it use the warp charges to pull that bb?

[acoustic isle]

Watch him pop

[weary idol]

nope, completely free

[echo parrot]

Even watching gameplay of the axe cheese annoys me

[acoustic isle]

Yep it just requires you be below critical peril

[echo parrot]

Ill never use that thing

[muted wyvern]

You get a warp charge from it. Not the opposite.

[ornate hamlet]

Is it a lvl 30 feat btw? Also thanks very cool

[acoustic isle]

Last i checked

[scarlet geyser]

you're knife user, right?

[weary idol]

it's the level uh....25 one?

[echo parrot]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

God dayum, thanks a lot brotha

Fucking ace

[muted wyvern]

Lvl 25

[hot tulip]

Psyker does good in that he can fill in and provide an adaptable anchor for the team via CC and stuns

But doesn't necessarily excel in raw DPS overall compared to other classes. BB is best used as a supportive tool or hard engage when the damage is shlacking in the team overall

[muted wyvern]

Man, I never BB anymore, just get free Warp Charges from passives and do Palpatine things

[acoustic isle]

Ive gotten some good mileage for my team running the 15% bonus damage to enemies after i hit em with brain burst

[hot tulip]

BB still needs help regardless, and im hoping the patches coming soon address this

[acoustic isle]

I do still think brain burst could be a bit better

[weary idol]

I usually run the cooldown one, psykers ability may be complete trash

[night marten]

since I suggested it, here's an example of what your ult can do with 6 charges on damnation trash mobs https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[scarlet geyser]

Running till 30 shit like this, got absolutely destroyed in my heresy missions

[weary idol]

but it's nice to help the people with useful abilities get theirs back quicker

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, cuz it’s not worth hitting the button and doing active BBs, imo

[lucid mortar]

Yeah, they really should have multiple ways to get AoE debuffs using brain burst

[acoustic isle]

I do run the faster brainburst after F

And the cdr on elite kill

Usually works pretty good for me

[weary idol]

i'm pretty fond of ascendant blaze as well

basically always on max warp charges just from the free one every 15 seconds

[lethal plover]

holy damnation
GET PERIL BLOCK

jesus in a pizza

[weary idol]

and 4 stacks still kills everything, even on damnation

[lucid mortar]

the blaze just does such little dmg, it feels pointless

[weary idol]

6 warp charges remaining useless to the end

[hot tulip]

this is great because it basically means that the horde takes one less melee or bullet from anything because we soften them up with AB

People trash on AB a lot when it's nice. I will say, I feel like our 30 talents could be better though, or at least lower on the talent tree to make the leveling process so much better

[scarlet geyser]

i'll do it when i get my FS with deflect range

[lethal plover]

Peril block is half the reason to play as psyker

[night marten]

you sure?

[weary idol]

last I checked

[lethal plover]

no, peril block works with axe or any weapon too. that's how you pick people up in a horde

[weary idol]

takes literally the entire DoT but it does kill them iirc

[hot tulip]

I mean if im being honest, I don't run AB with the mindset that im killing shit

Its still ran for me because it lowers the HP enough for my allies to confirm kills easier

also im hoping Soulblaze is buffed with the incoming patches, making AB even a better pick

[lethal plover]

I'm sorry but there are things to disagree on, but if you don't have peril block I don't care to play with you

you are the mini-ogryn who pick people up in the most clutch situations

[lucid mortar]

they could add like AoE slows or other CCs, maybe some kind aoe knockabout and just delete the staff nobody uses anyway

[lethal plover]

you shouldn't wonder why you keep losing without peril block

[acoustic isle]

I just think the push needs to hit harder and wider personally

It already comes back pretty good

[night marten]

it already hits pretty wide/far

you think it should be bigger than the gif I posted?

[rotund marsh]

the range is crazy 😄

[weary idol]

the push has kind of insane range, it just rapidly stops being a significant knockback

[hot tulip]

this is more of a surge/AB F win tbh

[weary idol]

it's just the push is pretty much all it does without the level 30 talents

[acoustic isle]

I guess the force doesnt hit very hard but i guess i might just not be paying enough attention

[weary idol]

50% peril takes so little time to just quell normally

[hot tulip]

though peril blocking is in sane rn

[weary idol]

and saving yourself from blowing up shouldn't happen anyways if you're actually managing it

[grave bobcat]

I keep trying to ress people and go "oh right" and have to run away lmfao

[lethal plover]

I don't know how many times I would have lost without peril block

[hot tulip]

immmm really scared that they will hit Peril Blocking hard

[grave bobcat]

Prob

[hot tulip]

it seems realistic that they will do that too

[acoustic isle]

I havent switched to it yet just because i disrusted myself early on

Was gonna switch to it soon

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, cuz Psykers are too good and need nerfs

[weary idol]

i doubt it, they might nerf it some but probably not too much

[muted wyvern]

lol

[weary idol]

psyker seems intended to be the actual "support" of the groupies we have

with how many feats they have dedicated to helping the team overall in some way or another

[lethal plover]

you're not wrong

[weary idol]

cooldown, damage increase, ridiculously good crowd control on everything, free revives

[lethal plover]

one free BB to open up a bulwark could change the flow of the fight

[acoustic isle]

Thank god brain burst still charges even after breaking LOS

[weary idol]

kills the most annoying enemies in the game very reliably

[acoustic isle]

It's like the best part of that ability

[muted wyvern]

They need to launch this game with more than 4 fucking classes total so we could at least still be Psykers but have 2 other options when one of our subclasses is dogshit… guess having Vermintide levels of content is too much to ask for.

[hot tulip]

Next psyker subclass I can imagine will probably have actual talents related to gun usage/enchanting, probably

[magic burrow]

Would be nice if they made one of those last tier feats make your ability a full 360 instead of a cone

[acoustic isle]

See but if what has been stated is to be believed

There wont be any subclasses

Just a new class

So what you got with these 4 is what you got

[night marten]

it does not kill most trash with 4 stacks on damnation https://gfycat.com/admiredindelibledalmatian

you really need the 6 https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[acoustic isle]

Number 5 is gonna be something different

[muted wyvern]

Not to mention that the subclasses in VT had different roles too. So you could play tank/damage/supp with most of them by just swapping

[mellow valley]

any advice on pick'n'mix

[weary idol]

oh the one use case of 6 warp charges

[hot tulip]

but thats how the classes worked in VT- yeah like you could just pick different roles in VT1/2

[weary idol]

situational 6% damage increase coming in clutch

[night marten]

yea, doing more damage on nearly the entire screen (including actually killing trash at any difficulty) and having more warp resist is definitely the only utility of that feat.

[magic burrow]

IMO warp charges are the least fun part of playing psyker

[bronze pulsar]

its a lot of work for not a lot of reward

[acoustic isle]

Vet presses mouse 5 with power sword

[hot tulip]

the ironic thing is that

I feel like devs wanted Psyker to be this high damage force ability user, but in reality he's mostly relegated to anchor/support duty on heresy+

and then they will release a support/tank Psyker and give him tank abilties that actually turn him into a DPS monster

It happened with Battlemage Sienna on VT2 lmao, might happen here

[night marten]

@weary idol there's no possible way that could be better than BB'ing random poxwalkers with your purge staff equipped with kinetic flayer, or dropping 4 stacks on a single enemy. right? ( )

[weary idol]

i mean the warp resist is the only utility that really matters in the grand scheme of things

[acoustic isle]

[royal granite]

you end up losing out on damage due to opportunity costs if you have to actively maintain your warp charges

[weary idol]

6 warp charges is easily psykers worst feat

[indigo valley]

I'd like to see some more damage or one other bonus from the warp charges

[night marten]

we just disagree

[hot tulip]

no, thats mind in motion

[weary idol]

well actually that's not fair because moving faster while quelling is worse

forgot that existed

second worst

[muted wyvern]

They’ve said some bullshit about how us seeing the Darktide Class system is going to make it clear how this is different, but idk bout you guys, this shit is just the same but with about 1/4 of the content… like Psyker is the class Psykinetic is the subclass, how is that different from say Kruger (class) Grail Knight (subclass)??? 🤷‍♂️

[indigo valley]

I think the 6 charges feat is really useful, and certainly better than the other two on that column

[magic burrow]

6 warp charges feat is like "congrats, you did you taxes, now you can do both your own taxes and your neighbor's"

[night marten]

at least with purge staff+AB, there's no contest

[timber fable]

Does anyone have a good build for the lightning staff?

I haven't found one that feels good

[night marten]

maybe flayer would be more situationally useful with a different setup

[weary idol]

situational 6% damage increase that isn't useful unless you run 2 other feats and also a purgatus staff

[bronze pulsar]

flayer is not bad on lightning staff, you dont use warp charges as much on that one so 6 is not that useful to you

[weary idol]

and also just lets you do something that the purgatus staff itself can also do

or a voidstrike

[night marten]

and KO does next to nothing with the current soulblaze damage numbers

[weary idol]

or a gun

[muted wyvern]

3/1/1/1/3/1 works for me

[magic burrow]

flayer would be marginally more useful if it actually could proc off of every attack instead of just a select few

[grave bobcat]

😮

[timber fable]

thx

[frozen flame]

To be honest I feel like lightning on the higher difficulties is just OP for CC. Let everyone else do the damage, it's just boring AF.

[bronze pulsar]

main problem with flayer is you have to be not red peril, and i am usually running hot while fighting

[weary idol]

I honeslty use this kind of as an upside of it

[frozen flame]

@bronze pulsar Can't figure out how to be effective and not be high peril

[bronze pulsar]

agreed, outide of cc i dont know why i'd use my psyker on damnation. i dont do shit

[weary idol]

stay at red peril, and when you have a priority target quell and then shoot them with a gun

[muted wyvern]

Can also do 1/1/1/1/3/1 up to you how you want the toughness regen on the lvl 5 talent. You’re gonna get a lot of passive BBs, so I’ve found going with the toughness on Quelling to be more reliable.

[magic burrow]

the real elephant in the room issue with the lightning staff is how in the Lights Out gamemode, the lightning doesnt actually produce any light

[grave bobcat]

Idk, I do just fine

[weary idol]

or y'know, with a staff

[frozen flame]

@magic burrow Found that out the hard way lol

[bronze pulsar]

what do you do better than any other class, outside of cc on damnation

[hot tulip]

ye this is probably psykers most optimal usage for damnation, is surge rn

however depending on the staff and blesses, you can make an argument on weapon usage

[night marten]

flayer's biggest problem is easy to see when you use purge staff or anything else that can't target specific enemies easily: you BB poxwalkers instead of meanginful targets too often

[frozen flame]

I use lightning for the most part, and purgatos when I want to switch it up cause I have a 509 Purgatos staff but it still doesn't feel as good

Helps with staying at low peril and procing the feat though

[night marten]

random BB's feel really good, but there's no way BB'ing a poxwalker every 15 seconds gives you the utility of 6 charges

[bronze pulsar]

i could see that too, but i would only value it for continous uptime on stacks myself

[frozen flame]

My lightning staff is only 484 and I can't find anything better rn cause RNG is ass

[weary idol]

how long does a mission last on average for you?

like ~20 minutes right?

[magic burrow]

I remember going into my first Lights Out game, getting excited and bringing the Palpetine staff, and then found out it doesnt even produce any light. What do you call lightning that doesnt produce light? Darkning?

[weary idol]

maybe a really awful one lasts 30

[frozen flame]

@weary idol good 20-25 bad 30-35

[weary idol]

it's not always gonna be a poxwalker

[frozen flame]

@magic burrow LOL darkning