psyker-class

[warm rune]

Ehhh I dunno both could work

[austere burrow]

Because of the perks

[warm rune]

Flak already takes a lot of damage from surge, damage isn't the point of it

[fair axle]

the perks on the left and its blessings are far better than what you would gain on the right

[static epoch]

warp nexus works with all attacks it's on my staff

it's same thing, 3 whites

[jagged sandal]

Yeah both are pretty cracked. it's hard to choose which one to choose

[austere burrow]

I do think warp resist isn't that big a deal on surge

[jagged sandal]

both are good in their own way

[austere burrow]

As long as it's not literally 0

[warm rune]

Is? you blast up if you're chaining stuns

[austere burrow]

You have ult

And you can also just vent

[grave bobcat]

omg he just vented

wtf

[runic hornet]

my gut says that right side will be at only ~90 perils when left staff overcaps to 100

one extra RMB, better perks, i'm not even sure terrfiying barrage WORKS on surge staff on account of it usually just electrocuting nearby enemies already

[austere burrow]

Ya I don't think I noticed terrifying barrage

[runic hornet]

reminder that most of the important elites wear flak armor

[austere burrow]

I agree

[runic hornet]

all gunners, shotguns

[lethal plover]

Suppression is only for ranged enemies.

[warm rune]

Only if you're fighting scabs and not dregs

[austere burrow]

Surge also already does damage to flak enemies

[runic hornet]

no, even dreg gunners are flak I was pretty sure

[austere burrow]

So having that boosted is actually noticeable

[runic hornet]

are they not?

[warm rune]

90% that they're unarmored

[lethal plover]

Dregs are hobos. I don't think they have armor

[runic hornet]

sec

[drowsy fog]

Never made armor out of discarded cans? Lol

[runic hornet]

dreg gunner sare flak

[austere burrow]

+carapace is like

[austere burrow]

0 boosted to 0 lmao

[runic hornet]

dreg basic riflemen are not

but the taggable gunners are flak

[warm rune]

ah ok

[runic hornet]

every part of them

wait, no their head is unarmored

[austere burrow]

I wonder which hitbox surge uses

[runic hornet]

but their arms, their body, their legs are all flak

unarmored heads explains a lot though

[warm rune]

shotguns too?

[runic hornet]

I swore their heads were flak too

[austere burrow]

I also value perks more than blessings

Because you can only reroll 1 perk

Whereas you'll be able to get whatever blessings you want eventually

[runic hornet]

okay, by using the heavysword's pushattack poke to narrow it down

[warm rune]

In either case, surge is still better with scabs because the basic gunners will fuck your life up anyway

[runic hornet]

dreg shotgunners have unarmored HANDS

[fair axle]

The peril between the two are: 13.56% for the right and 14,75% for the left.
7 Attacks for the left vs 7 attacks on the right.. It literally makes no difference..

[warm rune]

😮

[runic hornet]

which take full melee damage and you often hit their hands on account of their pose

[warm rune]

no gloves

[austere burrow]

That's what I'm saying

[runic hornet]

but body and legs are all flak

[austere burrow]

I treat warp resist and charge rate as dump stats

[plush juniper]

I’ve been playing ogryn and I just wanna say you mofos friggin ROCK!

[warm rune]

:3

[austere burrow]

Nice if they're up but who cares

[fair axle]

I'd rather hit 10% more to all elites, than exclusive flak enemies that already die in 2 hits.. no amount of 20% flak is going to change that

[austere burrow]

Rather jack up damage and crit

[runic hornet]

wait no

dreg gunners left their gloves at home too

but their shoulder is a weird flak hitbox

[fair axle]

And get 20% max crit extra for a total of 40% chance, but eh.. is what it is I suppose

[runic hornet]

I hit that instead when I did a slash

[austere burrow]

The crit blessing is def better

[runic hornet]

most elites are flak is what I'm saying

[austere burrow]

But you can upgrade that one eventually

[runic hornet]

gunners and shotgunners, flak. Maulers, flak. Ragers... are maniac or flak

[austere burrow]

I think +maniac might be nice

But haven't done the math

[runic hornet]

actually i'm not sure what armor type reaper uses

[austere burrow]

Unyielding

[runic hornet]

since it has flak body but bleeds are unyielding on it

[fair axle]

Unyielding

[austere burrow]

They have some flak too iirc

On the chain vest

[runic hornet]

yeah repears are weird because the majority of their body is flak or carapace

the only unyielding bits of them are one arm and head

[austere burrow]

Where do they have carapace?

[warm rune]

I wanted to say, I took bulwarks for granted as a psyker main, was trying to level my sharpshooter and WHAT THE FUCK is that shield hitbox?

[runic hornet]

their lower arms, aka their gun-toting hands and wrists

[austere burrow]

Oh I never noticed

Guess I don't aim there lol

[runic hornet]

actually it's their entire right arm

their entire right arm is carapace despite the exposed skin

[lethal plover]

Welcome to why people appreciate psykers among other things

[austere burrow]

Yeah bulwarks are actually pretty annoying without bb/surge

[runic hornet]

the left hand and wrist are carapace too

but the left bicep is not

the left bicep and the head are the only unyielding bits

wait no

[austere burrow]

They're pretty easy to dance around by themselves

[runic hornet]

reapers also have unyielding feet

despite the obviously metal boots

the fuck

[austere burrow]

But they take up so much space that they limit your options

[warm rune]

lil unyielding feeties

[runic hornet]

tl;dr mixed armor hitboxes are fucked up

[cyan notch]

you can knock em down with trauma

[austere burrow]

No ty

[runic hornet]

I am an unironictrauma staff enjoyer

[severe folio]

excellent

[austere burrow]

I would enjoy it more if it didn't slow you down so much

[severe folio]

i on the other hand havent found any grimmoire yet and even fail another bloody chasm

its like now i hit a wall and i can never complete any mission

been failing 3 in a row

who tf join malice as an orgyn level 3

[austere burrow]

Voidstrike charge slowdown feels fine because you kill everything in front of you when you let it rip

[runic hornet]

i did

I carried

[drowsy fog]

Who cares about a bulwark shield when you're a force of nature

[severe folio]

well this guy isnt a carry

[runic hornet]

yeah lol

i know what you mean

[severe folio]

it feels like the more i play this game the less i get dopamine from it

[drowsy fog]

Sounds normal for a horde game

[runic hornet]

burnout is real

and not every game jives with every person

[severe folio]

but its only been 24 hours

[austere burrow]

My enjoyment has been very sinusoidal

[runic hornet]

I love vT2, I enjoy DT, something about VT1 just cheeses me off and I fucking hate it

[lethal plover]

Try harder modes. You're just in tutorial

[severe folio]

just did

i hate it

[drowsy fog]

I'd love VT so much more if it had a likeable character

Like

Lemme play a seraphon

[runic hornet]

not liking saltzpyre

heretic detected

[austere burrow]

Every character in VT is great

[runic hornet]

even elf has her moments

[drowsy fog]

Sugmar

[solar remnant]

Love me the entire cast

Shout out to Catherine

[runic hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2xsWuAEvtI

[drowsy fog]

Like I enjoyed playing Kerilian but they're all such bastards lol

[austere burrow]

That's why they're great

[drowsy fog]

Different tastes 🤷‍♀️

[austere burrow]

Kruber is probably the nicest one overall

[drowsy fog]

Yeah probably

[austere burrow]

Just a country boy trying to kill some rats

[white hemlock]

is it me or does our ult frequently do absolutely nothing?

[runic hornet]

it's a narrow cone

at point blank range, sometimes you shoot it between mobs

it's hilarious

[drowsy fog]

Handmaiden for spear n shield plus insta revives or sister of the thorn for that sweet magic nonsense were my go tos

[white hemlock]

I mean, I was looking at a hound, pushed it, and then it immediately pounced before I finished shouting

[runic hornet]

stagger immunity while pushed

you can't chain stagger most enemies

[white hemlock]

No, I mean pushed with ult

[runic hornet]

oh, that's just typical dog netcode

"omae wa mou shinderu"

the server says they got you first

because fuck you, that's why

[austere burrow]

Lag moment

Though if it was before you finished shouting

[white hemlock]

the worst is when I clearly dodged, saw the dog hit the wall and when it was doing it's head shake animation, it teleported on top of me

[austere burrow]

Maybe the shout just didn't come out fast enough

[lethal plover]

Only Kerilian is written to be overly bitchy. They really overdid that.

[austere burrow]

I liked that kerillian was constantly mean to everyone

Need that 💯

It made for a funny dynamic where they were mean back to her

[severe folio]

angry = content

[white hemlock]

I mean, that's kind of her shtick. Elves are above everyone, and Wood Elves in particular are bordering fae spirits in attitude. Imagine having to deal with a bunch of, to your eyes, literally child goblins and a dwarf, who's race you have constant border skirmishes with while they try to cut down your home

[severe folio]

sound like british

[grave bobcat]

U WOT

[drowsy fog]

Never got around to trying saltzpyres final career but it looked fun

[austere burrow]

Yeah like she's literally hundreds of years older than everyone

[white hemlock]

At best, she'll see them like pets and find likeness to the dwarf in the fact that they, too, are dealing with children

[austere burrow]

How can you treat a race seriously that dies before they hit elven toddler age

[grave bobcat]

idk you seem fine to me

[austere burrow]

I'm different

[grave bobcat]

Built incorrectly

Assembled improperly

[old quiver]

I'VE SELDOM SEEN AN ELF DIE

[white hemlock]

Like, there's a good chance Kerilian is literally older then the entire human empire

[drowsy fog]

That's a vibe

[grave bobcat]

Wow i heard thatr voice line

when reading it

[drowsy fog]

I just wanted to be a lizard is that so much to ask

[old quiver]

Nah not really

Playable skaven would've been so sick too

[white hemlock]

That one is a bit of a stretch, but a skink wouldn't be out of the question

[drowsy fog]

Lil skink running around stabbing knees or a saurian bashing in skulls

[white hemlock]

Like some far off scout/emmissary

also tfw your staff is better than the one for sale

[drowsy fog]

LET ME BE A KNEE STABBING RASCAL FAT SHARK

[old quiver]

Is anything really a stretch in this universe?

[drowsy fog]

^^^

[white hemlock]

Yes lol

[austere burrow]

Anyone that wouldn't have been permitted in ubersreik wouldn't make sense for one

[drowsy fog]

I don't even wanna be a skink priest dropping meteors I just wanna be lizzer

[white hemlock]

That

[drowsy fog]

What sort of timeline are we looking at cuz seraphon are an army of order

[austere burrow]

Did they exist during early vermintide

Because that's when the game is set

[drowsy fog]

Idk the timeline

[white hemlock]

Lustria is literally "fuck off we're dinosaurs" the faction. They're not aggressive or really involved because they're dealing with their own problems

Lizardmen have been around for a long while, yes

[drowsy fog]

But also fuck Lore wanna be lizzer

[wise pecan]

Haven’t the skinks basically always been around?

[white hemlock]

Slaan

But yea, you have Skinks and Saurs as your two lizardmans

And then Fr0g

[spiral remnant]

gahhhhhhhh

still stuck trying to find a good rating weapon

kill me

[white hemlock]

Kinda just ass until they open up crafting more

[old quiver]

For real

Get lucky or get fucked

[wise pecan]

I can’t, all the weapons that I’d do so with aren’t being sold right now. Maybe in 18 minutes

[white hemlock]

I have a unique problem where I somehow have more diamantine...

[old quiver]

Yeah lmao

[drowsy fog]

My buddy dms out dnd/pathfinder etc. Nights and has offered that if we ever play rogue trader I can play a warp-displaced skink that the crew just kinda adopted lol

[spiral remnant]

i feel like 3 easy changes fatshark could realisticially implement rn is A. rng buff on weapon ratings B. decreased shop refresh times C. plasteel on scrapping green/blue weapons

[old quiver]

Heresy just drops more

[lethal folio]

Skinks sometimes show up in the empire

[cyan notch]

not that unique

[spiral remnant]

bro... same...

it actually discourages you from playing higher difficulty missions

[white hemlock]

jfc

[spiral remnant]

and encourages uprising/malice farming

[old quiver]

Instead of making BOTH more abundant you know... gotta grind some braindead malice

[white hemlock]

Malice it is I guess... snoozefest

[austere burrow]

I have like 3k diamantine 0 plasteel

[old quiver]

For real

[austere burrow]

I wonder if diamantine is gonna be needed for anything

[white hemlock]

The game should've been postponed again

[drowsy fog]

Was running damnation last night for diamantine farm and found more plasteel I was sad

[old quiver]

Still a shill for this franchise but the design decisions have always been a lil questionable

[white hemlock]

I haven't jumepd into damn yet

[austere burrow]

How the heck do you need diamantine but not plasteel

You need like double the plasteel whenever you craft stuff

[paper trail]

you don't get as much diamantine on middle and lower difficulties

[austere burrow]

Oh that makes sense

[drowsy fog]

I have plenty of plasteel

[austere burrow]

I've been doing heresy/low intensity damnation almost exclusively since 30

[paper trail]

I mean, I wouldn't do grim weeklies on it but each to their own

[drowsy fog]

I just breeze through malice while looking for a damnation group

[paper trail]

malice is easier to farm while watching TV

[austere burrow]

Grim weeklies are for the birds

[lucid mortar]

malice and chill

[paper trail]

and it makes no difference sure you end up without enough plasteel to use the diamintine anyway

[drowsy fog]

Exactly, got YouTube on the second monitor and just vibe

[paper trail]

so farming more diamantine in higher diff is pointless if you end up unable to spend it, they really need to fix the ratios

[austere burrow]

I play higher difficulties for fun

If I wanted to grind I would play an mmo lol

[lucid mortar]

I think the later crafting stages will likely use diamantine but… yeah

[drowsy fog]

I've been playing ff xiv for 9 years, gotta take a break to avoid burnout lol

[austere burrow]

Or poe

[paper trail]

ok

[ornate hamlet]

fuck poe, what a stinker of a game

[drowsy fog]

Poe is kinda middle ground for me. Don't love it don't hate it

[ornate hamlet]

dont get me wrong, used to love it, but they kept ramping up the amount of time you needed to invest to get to content

[austere burrow]

I probably wouldn't play it if I didn't have knowledgeable friends to pick the brains of

[ornate hamlet]

its to the point where it feels disrespectful to the playerbase to expect people to dedicate so many hours into each leauge

[drowsy fog]

Good guy ff xiv: devs encourage you to play other games, put a clock in the ui so you don't lose track of time and fuck up your sleep schedule

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/bqSgj.gif

[supple skiff]

Let’s you pay to skip that slow ass base story

[runic hornet]

bro

I'm addicted to dueling sword light->slide tech now

what the fuck are these speed boosts

this is way crazier than knife tech

[white hemlock]

I'ma ddicted to delfector force sword lol

[supple skiff]

^

[half iron]

i’m addicted to deflector fs as well

[austere burrow]

Isn't it the same as the knife one

[runic hornet]

dueling sword feels faster

I can't quantify it

[austere burrow]

Maybe the heavy lunge has more momentum

[fallen mortar]

Okay experts, picked this up. Keep and upgrade or move on?

[austere burrow]

Move on

[runic hornet]

bad quell speed, do not upgrade

[austere burrow]

Those rolls are so low

[fallen mortar]

Ok

[runic hornet]

wait it's fucking 280

[fallen mortar]

That's what I was wondering

[runic hornet]

yeah do not upgrade

like you don't need 350 but 280 will have missing stats from too many things

[supple skiff]

Charge only adds damage anyways, blessing ain’t it

[unkempt charm]

I see your pain brother

[austere burrow]

Low roll surge staff still functions

[fallen mortar]

Ok thanks for the info

[runic hornet]

oh yeah it functions

[austere burrow]

But no point going too hard on it

[runic hornet]

but like the moment you hit 30 you can find better staffs easily enough

[fallen mortar]

So I should be looking for high damage and quell speed?

[austere burrow]

When you could get one that THRIVES

[lucid mortar]

Using base items is just another way to increase difficulty

[supple skiff]

Should have a fork stat for more chains

[fallen mortar]

Warp Fluury could be good yeah?

[austere burrow]

I honestly have not noticed it

You barely charge anyway

[fallen mortar]

oh true

good point

[supple skiff]

Yeah, you don’t run surge for damage and that’s all that charging it does really, adds more

[lucid mortar]

All I notice is movement, warp resist and quell speed, the rest is smoke and mirrors

[supple skiff]

But you never know, hold on to it. Stuffs going to get reworked at some point and you never know what’ll need good. You’ll be swimming in gold end game either way

[austere burrow]

Crit is pretty important imo

[white hemlock]

my biggest issue with deflector is when you run up on someone shooting and start to melee and then the other mooks just keep shooting you

[austere burrow]

It makes the damage actually okay whenever you crit

[fallen mortar]

Yeah that's not a bad thing heh

[drowsy fog]

I just love when a purge rolls high cloud radius

[stoic night]

Quick question: Does anyone know how many "Kinetic Killer" penances there are?

[trail garnet]

Does anyone know how weapon acquisition works? like when do i start getting 500+ leveled gear? In VT2 it was based on your last highest gear obtained, but i have no idea how it works here

[supple skiff]

Pretty sure it’s the same idea

But best item in shop regardless if you’ll use it and the values go up

Worked for me at least

[drowsy fog]

3

[trail garnet]

Does this apply to the limited acquisitions shop as well do you think?

[fallen mortar]

From there it's just random on acquisition from completing missions right?

[supple skiff]

Emperors gifts I’m pretty sure had a hidden weekly cap, but the gear score is affected in the same way, as is limit acquisitions

Have not had

[stoic night]

Thank you already, but allow me this follow-up question: Is this the last hood you get?

[lethal plover]

man

I am thankful I was in the mood for force sword

because the last damnation pub team was rather bad and I would not have been able to rez them otherwise

I was reviving mid horde of shooters

[long wharf]

shouldn't the edging be red?

[stoic night]

This is why I ask.

[long wharf]

and the hood looks like it's made of leather instead of the cloth we see in-game

[stoic night]

In contrast to what I heard, this hood seems unobtainable so far.

[long wharf]

yeah, I haven't seen it in-game yet

[harsh sentinel]

the voices in my head tell me to burn heretics and worship Hadron's bionic feet

emperor save my soul

[stoic night]

Tough luck, she only has a peg-leg

[harsh sentinel]

on a serious note, i've just made my first psyker, and one know a good leveling build?

[long wharf]

just play the game

there is no leveling build

[stoic night]

Well ... you kind of have to use the Psi-Sword. That's it.

[cyan notch]

i used force sword and surge till 30

and then i used force sword and surge

[fiery marsh]

any good?

[harsh sentinel]

dope thanking you

[white hemlock]

anyone else showing a new cosmetic? It's only on my pskyer and the notification won't go away

[stoic night]

Quick question: Do you still have your convict-robes ?

I assume you don't ... it is probably a bug that has something to do with that. It appears to be psyker exclusive.

[white hemlock]

I do have them

[stoic night]

Oh, ... what color?

[cyan notch]

yea bugged for me too

[stoic night]

HAHA ok. but now show me if you ACTUALLY have it in your inventory 🙂

[austere burrow]

I do

[stoic night]

As soon as you unequip it ... it is gone (at least the green one)

[austere burrow]

My robes are still there

[keen pawn]

I have blue, and it's in my inventory and I have the new notification thing.

[stoic night]

Huh, ok ... then it is appearently not related.
The Green one is bugged though. Am not the only one with that issue.

[keen pawn]

my friend is veteran and has the new notification thing.

[stoic night]

Does someone here have the green one by any chance?

[white hemlock]

I literally just equipped everything I have, too

[austere burrow]

I'm not green

So could be a green bug

[trail garnet]

Private lobbys when? i wanna do my penances and contracts without being sabotaged

[stoic night]

This week as far as we know.

[trail garnet]

Trying to run a 1 star, with just myself and bots just to get melee kill contracts complete and i got some ogryn who joins half way through and proceeds to trying to outpace me

[half iron]

i only have the pants

[frigid sparrow]

I'm late to the party. So I'm counting my gifts since the reset now.

7 out of whatever people think the cap is, right now I think its 10 right?

[white hemlock]

the more I play, the more worthless warpcharges and BB feels

[idle shuttle]

veteran has an instant bb

cost 1 ammo

[boreal sun]

I have no green

and have cosmetic thing showing I have something

[sacred lodge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/f6eeb260-8594-45dd-9e5a-1a9f34cafd28/bulletproof-elitespecialist-killer
dis build any good?

[dusky smelt]

damn look at this base

does block effciency work with kinetic deflection?

[placid sorrel]

to the psyker that i played with as a vet, extending apologies for accidentally triggering daemonhost while i have the grim u needed

[dusky smelt]

F

[placid sorrel]

feelsbadman

[velvet spear]

haven't seen a good force sword since level 10, finally found this gem, wish me luck siblings on upgrades

[white hemlock]

Don't forget we spend 5 horus charging sword for mediocre damage, when they press power sword button and ANHILATE EVERYTHING IN FRONT THEM because they're a ranged class

[candid mesa]

DUN DUN DUNNN

[frigid sparrow]

I want a purge staff so bad

[deft pumice]

saucy

heretic horde destroyer

[candid mesa]

my purgatus staff looks like my voidstrike

the same

bug

[deft pumice]

xD

iv got this aswell

[valid marsh]

I like Purgatus

[deft pumice]

i couldnt get with it xD

[valid marsh]

soulblaze needs a damage buff but its really fun spraying down a horde

when I have the fuckin space to do so anyway

[candid mesa]

I just abuse my Purgatus with perma flames

[deft pumice]

xD

[raw breach]

I finally got a decent level Purg and tried playing with it and it just didn't feel good for me. But I typically use Surge for a Control playstyle

[white hemlock]

failed a mission right at the end because a sniper spawned 4000 meters away on the train yard. At least I got 20 plasteel for my 40 minutes!

[valid marsh]

Surge staff is the meta pick right now but holy shit is it boring

the staves need a unique light attack function or something

[cyan notch]

i dont mind it i like it

[valid marsh]

Trauma should have a wave shotgun function, that'd be cool

Voidstrike can stay as it is

surge could do with, I don't know, something

An armor piercing lightning bolt, maybe?

[white hemlock]

The melee on the staff is stupid and bad.

[raw breach]

But I did think of two ways to make Staffs better. First would be to change Trauma staff to Coruscation model from VT2 where it leaves flame patches on the ground that would apply Soulblaze. Second, give Surge Staff a blessing that will make it arc to more enemies or Blazing Spirit or something. Void being the only staff with Quell Preil blessing is lame

[valid marsh]

I was more referring to the left click

[white hemlock]

surge should be a lightning bolt

[raw breach]

more bounces

[white hemlock]

they're all stupid and bad, too

[valid marsh]

Yeah

I mean

[white hemlock]

inaccurate and less damage than a lasgun

[valid marsh]

they're not bad for finishing things off

but they're kind of useless

[past brook]

for the Warp Battery penance, is it 300s at max charges consecutively, or 300s across the entire mission?

[valid marsh]

there is no reason to use the left click on any of the staves otherwise

[white hemlock]

I use voidstrike, it's more consistent for me to just instant right click than to shoot the left click to finish

[kindred edge]

Boy, if I were gonna be a gun psyker, this wouldn't be bad for it

[past brook]

eh, agripanna is probably the worst infantry autogun out there
graia or columnus work much better IMO

[kindred edge]

The Mk1 I like.

[valid marsh]

I wanna have gun talents

gimme my GUN TALENTS

[white hemlock]

Psyker talents need a serious overpass. Warpcharges are worthless and so is brainburst

[raw breach]

I like the Accatran Mk2 the best of the Autoguns for BB Gun Psyker build or Veteran if you want to run an auto fire

[white hemlock]

and despite them saying over and over they don't want psyker to be BB spam, that's literally what all the talents are

[raw breach]

My playstyle with Surge, I actually use BB very little

[hot tulip]

I'd legit kill for gun talents- like gaining peril for guaranteed crit shots or something

But then I'd think that's a whole nother subclass altogether

Or just play vet

[valid marsh]

PsyKINETIC

[white hemlock]

Vets are better psykers anyway

[valid marsh]

guns are KINETIC

[hot tulip]

By kinetic they mean the force of mind l m a o

And that's BB

[valid marsh]

let me use warpcharges to ricochet or crit

I'm sad

[white hemlock]

No, they mean kinetic force lol, you're literally crushing their skulls

[valid marsh]

yes

[raw breach]

let warp charges decay one at a time rather than the whole stack

[valid marsh]

Brain burst isn't attacking their mind

[static epoch]

I would like a fanning style attack on a staff similar to shotgun alt, longer you charge the wider it gets.

[white hemlock]

just change warpcharges entirely. it's not a fun mechanic

[valid marsh]

it is literally overloading their brains with electric energy

and exploding it

[white hemlock]

watch the hands on the brain burst as they finish, it's literally crushing

[raw breach]

It's the Outcast Engineer crank gun pressure mechanic, but worse because we don't have a talent to negate having to constantly micromanage the timer

[hot tulip]

Let me use a single warp stack to charge my next clip's damage overall, instead of having my entire stack fucking decay

So I have warp stack damage on demand

[white hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-squeeze-doll-gif-14758900

[hot tulip]

Let me take a perk (in addition to peril blocking) that removes a stack completely instead of taking toughness damage

E. Z

[white hemlock]

Yea, it's pretty much this, but terrible in every aspect lmao

Unlike the engineer, you have to kill something with a terrible attack to get a charge

Whereas the engineer just gasp charges their stacks

[fresh vessel]

What blessings should I look for on my purg staves?

[raw breach]

And I fuckin' loved Outcast Engineer. but cranking could be done out of combat, had a shorter cast time...

[white hemlock]

Yea, he was fun. The more I'm playing psyker, the more I'm feeling like I've wasted my time lmao

[silk magnet]

What's the staff equivalent of the MG-12 Las Rifle? Like, great all rounder good for general use?

[white hemlock]

Lmao

Good one

[raw breach]

Warp Nexus and Focused Channeling (or Warp Flurry)

[raw breach]

Voidstaff

[white hemlock]

or that, yea

[fresh vessel]

Got warp flurry and lolrun 'n' gun.

1/2 ain't bad

[silk magnet]

Cool, thanks

[raw breach]

hey, i actually had run n gun come clutch for me

[fresh vessel]

It does seem like it may be fun to use in some situations.

[raw breach]

unexpectedly strong to be able to pick off headshots as i sprint

but i rarely see other psykers use their left click

[runic hornet]

left clicks are underrated

they have MASSIVE stagger

and they're cheap to throw

just saying "I'm going to throw a LMB at this corner" can save you from sucking a huge burst of damage while you save your slide for the other rifle

[small hornet]

Who needs stagger when you have DPS

[white hemlock]

Rarely have I felt that using left click was better that swapping to sword and blocking and/or pushing

[raw breach]

and point and click headshots one shot a lot of things

[small hornet]

This message is sponsored by the Ogbros

[runic hornet]

it's for those really awkward midrange rifles

[white hemlock]

on malice maybe

[runic hornet]

yeah it takes two headshots on damnation

[white hemlock]

god forbid you hit the shoulder cause it still takes 2 headshots after that

[raw breach]

Well, yeah, 1S/2S either way it's underrated lol

[old quiver]

Man is the netcode just absolutely awful for anyone else? Like whole actions just get cancelled entirely?

[grave bobcat]

When im on high ping yeah

[old quiver]

How do you see your ping

[grave bobcat]

you donr

[old quiver]

lol

[grave bobcat]

dont*

[white hemlock]

I've exploded many times because my weapon swap JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN so I sit there charging instead of blocking and die

[raw breach]

but you sure start to notice when you're rubberbanding

[old quiver]

It's every game for me, it's really noticeable and it really takes awayt from the experience. Stops me form playing when I think about it sometimes

Constantly

Have a wifi antennae and everything too

RIP

[raw breach]

Solution I found in Vermintide was to bind weapon 1 to mouse wheel up and weapon 2 to mouse wheel down. Rolling your mouse wheel up to send multiple signals to swap to that weapon seems to work around high ping from when I'd be playing with EU players

[white hemlock]

Probably not a bad idea

[old quiver]

Seems solid

Gotta play the system lol

[raw breach]

Then I rebound my Grenade/Brain Burst to 1, Medikit to 2, and Auspex to 3

Just from old MMO keybind optimization habits

dodge to mouse 4, tag to mouse 5, weapon special to mouse 3

[sacred lodge]

interesting...

[drowsy fog]

Ye aside from in the shop

[ornate hamlet]

Where is the data that shows our crit rating?

[mild tartan]

Down the hall and to the left

[ornate hamlet]

Well that was impotent.

[fair oracle]

I don’t think there is an overall character sheet.

You would have to go through each item individually and calculate

If baseline is 0?

[raw breach]

Ehh baseline definitely isn't 0

[sacred lodge]

also, what would be the best feats to pick for a pure brain burst build?
...yes, for pick n mix...

[fair oracle]

Don’t bother..

[frigid sparrow]

The level 30 perk and soul stacks via flame might work

[white hemlock]

Soulblaze is pretty worthless

[fair oracle]

BB doesn’t scale and there aren’t any feats that really make it stronger other then your last choice… which I guess psykenetics turns it into a button worth pushing?

[snow laurel]

got pick n mix and montrous maellum in one run, feels good

[velvet spear]

congrats sibling

[severe folio]

everything on the psyker kit is worthless

kinetic deflection is great until i turn around i see everyone literally just abandon me and move on from the daemonhost they arose

[gilded cave]

just been queuing for high intensity heresy runs and had like 5 wipes in a row

[sage flower]

Surge staff is love, surge staff is life.

[gilded cave]

keep getting bosses on top of hordes

[velvet spear]

worth gambling on?

[white hemlock]

I love the void staff honestly lol. I love that it's a cannonball

Sometimes it just feels underwhelming in heresy

[gilded cave]

voidstrike staff probably feels the best out of any weapon but only up to malice for me

[white hemlock]

Nah, heresy hordes it still claps, but it doesn't do shit to specials

[gilded cave]

yeah but you get more specials in heresy so it drops off

[ashen ore]

what is soul blaze?

[white hemlock]

bad

[gilded cave]

crap fire dot

[silent coral]

guys can i get advice on what feats to take for 25 and 30?

[gilded cave]

if you build around it and get max stacks and then use your ulti it just about barely kills commons

[white hemlock]

just leave them blank. It's about the same effect

[gilded cave]

oh and it takes ~10 seconds to kill them too

[frigid sparrow]

25 - Kinetic Flayer is good when it procs, esp when you're focusing a lot on elites/specials with surge or melee

[white hemlock]

Wait, is that the auto bb?

If so, that's fine

it's actually really nice

[long wharf]

no reason to not take kinetic barrage

that way you aren't wiping out your stacks when you force push, and you have the option of BBing quickly if desired

[frigid sparrow]

I rock Ascendant Blaze, I don't need to use my ult for peril manage and I don't focus BB, which is the Kinetic Barrage one

[gilded cave]

ascendant blaze can work with the purgatus staff I think but yeah I usually take kinetic barrage to clutch some BB snipes

[white hemlock]

BB is bad, so there's a reason

[gilded cave]

in the rare occasion BB is useful

[severe folio]

i like flame

[long wharf]

if you never use BB, then you're making the conscious choice to not use a tool in the psyker toolbox

every tool has its use

[white hemlock]

I'm honestly thinking about just not running a talent at 30 and saving what charges I get

[tight saddle]

The BB lvl 30 feat isn't for focusing on BB, it's so you can whip out a BB faster the times you do need it for even less downtime. Blaze doesn't really do anything unless you're using Purg Staff, and even with Purg staff the BB one is better. Though Blaze with Purg is a fun playstyle.

[long wharf]

again, you don't lose charges with kinetic barrage

and it gives you another tactical option

[white hemlock]

I use it so sparingly that I never want to burn my push for more BB

[long wharf]

there's no reason to not take it

[grave bobcat]

Gl

[silent coral]

on difficulties past malice what is more useful surge CC or pergatus flamer?

[long wharf]

situational

[gilded cave]

it depends

[sonic aspen]

I run surge in heresy and damnation

[gilded cave]

if you've got zealot(s) in your party probably surge

[tight saddle]

lmao

[raw breach]

Void 's damage or Surge CC. I don't find Purg usable past Malice

[gilded cave]

if you've got vets probably purgatus

[grave bobcat]

🥲

[gilded cave]

you get mild cc with purg and really good horde clear but it lacks the range

[white hemlock]

The lack of range kills me

[gilded cave]

I can't justify void on heresy because the tiny amount of cc it provides doesn't justify it's pretty great horde clear

if I'm not close enough for surge or purgatus I can usually cover the distance with kinetic deflection/force sword

[raw breach]

The purpose of Void is damage, not CC. If you want CC, go for Surge

[white hemlock]

At least we can all agree that the first staff is bad and should feel bad

[grave bobcat]

Has its uses 🤷

[white hemlock]

Trauma. God I couldn't even remember the name

[nimble needle]

It just like me FR

[raw breach]

But Void with the Quell Peril blessing makes it an unlimited ammo cannon, so you don't need to CC it if it's dead?

[white hemlock]

That

[raw breach]

Otherwise, if you're like me and enjoy the support/control playstyle, just stick with Surge to CC

[gilded cave]

doesn't kill any of the tougher specials

[cursive thistle]

Doesn't negate this issue, but just FYI, the "cloud radius" bar affects the range as well

[white hemlock]

That's what the vet is for

or BB supposedly

[hearty yarrow]

or the bb or sword

[grave bobcat]

[white hemlock]

Vet > Sword > Ogryn > normal melee swings with sword > staff left click > BB

Chain of command

[hearty yarrow]

Sorry ogryn punch>>

No Diff

[nimble needle]

Force sword special should give warp charges

[teal needle]

Staff left click does legit outdps bb against most unarmored enemies pretty sure lol

[white hemlock]

A second non-random source of warp charges? Someone get this person out of there

[raw breach]

This is my weapon combo. Was hoping for Decimator on the axe upgrade instead of Thunderous, but I've found it actually makes monsters and Ogryns melt.

[quiet citrus]

has anyone else noticed that when you're doing scriptures, if the map has a special condition, it wont count towards the weeklys?

[raw breach]

There's several bugs with weekly credit tracking. Sometimes it counts, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it'll show no progress for a few missions, then suddenly update all the progress...

[static epoch]

Can confirm it's not to be trusted for a couple hours today my Zealot progress didn't show. Everything was at 0 but I did stuff previous day.

[grave bobcat]

Anyone doing damn runs?

[white hemlock]

I've noticed that when it says I can reroll for 7400 credits I can't so I'm stuck with 12 grims

which means I don't gaf about trying to complete the rest lmao

[raw breach]

lol i always reroll the grims weekly, same with any of the "complete X secondary objectives on Y map"

[white hemlock]

scripts > x secondary > grim

is what I rolled

and can't change it n ow

[cyan notch]

its limited to 4 rerolls

[white hemlock]

And my care to complete them all is limited to actually being able to complete them lmao

Sorry, i really don't mean to be so negative. Just had a large bout of frustration

[severe folio]

i just got level 25

im using purg staff, between warp battery and kinetic overload which one should i use

thinking kinetic overload but it said apply to an enemy, which sound like just 1 enemy when i can spray fire to all of them

[severe dove]

I like how the characters gradually start to get along throughout the missions

[pale basalt]

flayer really aint bad in any form, i find KO not great

[severe dove]

Even the Zealot will sometimes compliment the Psyker

[severe folio]

warp battery is not worth it at all ?

[pale basalt]

Warp battery really doesn't come into its own until you have Kinetic barrage to make stacking up charges easy

[severe folio]

oh

and flayer

has a cooldown though ?

[pale basalt]

and then they will all dump on it because its a lot of micromanaging and lack of breakpoints but I like warp battery + flayer for burst damage and easy stacking

[severe folio]

i see

[pale basalt]

yeah, but it helps keep you topped up

[raw breach]

I'll pick up 25 scrips over the week when I come across them, but I refuse to pick up grims in this game even if I find one. In VT2 there was reason that justified the corrupted HP, you'd get better loot.

[runic hornet]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/LX9N1d8xWV-et/d13373OcXujl?invite=cr-MSxSRVksNDg2MDU3NTUs bruh moment

[severe folio]

thats true

also you cant pick both flayer and battery

[pale basalt]

once you get your capstone you can build a couple more ways but I'd use flayer, it procs often and can make things happen. I think getting to 6 charges cumbersome without barrage

[white hemlock]

get to 6 charges
there's a 30s break in combat
desperately try to BB random mob
lose all 6 stacks 1s before BB fires off

[pale basalt]

its a lot of managing, I don't run it all the time

[white hemlock]

I'll be honest, I literally don't even pay attention or care about my current charges because it's largely inconsequential and not worth the effort sadly

[raw breach]

running the 6 charge talent as if i bother maintaining 4 stacks

[cerulean rune]

does warp absorption proc off attacks like killing an enemy with flame thrower staff DoT?

[white hemlock]

exactly

[scarlet barn]

whats the best staff for killing hoards?

[raw breach]

If they fell off one stack at a time, then i would keep them up with 90+% uptime

[pale basalt]

works really well with any staff flerpin

[cerulean rune]

flamethrower staff, then probably vortex

[pale basalt]

I like Purg, but its kinda slow at bigger levels

it has really nice cc

[covert cosmos]

purg or void

[raw breach]

but if you are out of combat just a bit too long and lose them all, it's not even worth the time to restack

[pale basalt]

Impact is a little better, but I don't have a nice one of my own

[white hemlock]

I would care more, but seeing as BB is the only way to generate them, it's still meh. If I have stacks from flayer, then cool I get a sweet bonus

[scarlet barn]

ty

[covert cosmos]

purg dmg isn't the best, but it will cc entire hordes effortlessly which void cant do

[pale basalt]

thats why kinetic barrage can make it workable

but its still a chore

[cerulean rune]

purg slowly ramps up to some decent / big damage
but if you have a staff like this, then it's good

terrifying barrage makes purge staff nice

[pale basalt]

yeah with our always passive battle meditation the uptime is stupid when you are killing lots of trash

[covert cosmos]

ive never seen run n gun before that seems sick lol

[raw breach]

I run KB, but it's still not worth the time to stack them. KB is really only useful for burst damage on demand for a single target, and even then you only really get ~3 BBs out of it

[autumn marten]

Isnt warp absorption (10% toughness on warp kill) just flat out better than the other two options when using a staff?

[cerulean rune]

i literally hold hands with a zealot and sprint / primary fire with purge staff to stagger lol

[autumn marten]

I've been using quietitude, but like, how is it worth taking vs warp absorption at all if im using a voidstrike staff

[raw breach]

run n gun on purg seems the least useful of all the staves tbh

[pale basalt]

its pretty good, I do switch around a little sometimes. I also like the passive cooldown one since I use a deflect sword and Kdeflection. I can kind of sit in my bubble and be pretty safe.

[runic hornet]

i prefer 30% warp charge and the 4% warp charge from kills in coherency talent

because it tends to give you toughness when you need it more

[pale basalt]

yeah maxing passive bb helps and is viable

[runic hornet]

You can get raked by enemy rifles, go "oh fuck I need cover", and then your teammates will pop an extra 30% toughness for you as you scramble to safety

[pale basalt]

with essence harvest

[runic hornet]

generally if you are actively killing things, you don't need the toughness half as much

[cerulean rune]

because you use it in conjunction with the other perks
vortex staff would probably work best with warp absorption because you're cleaving many targets with the big AoE spike that you do since it's a warp attack
so one big vortex ball into a horde will instantly fill your toughness
Purge staff is really good with essence harvest in combination with Ascendant Blaze because you're primarily going to be burning everything and getting a lot burning kills

[raw breach]

Some staff attacks didn't count as warp attacks for a while, not sure if it's been changed since that part of beta. But ever since I switched to quietude I've found being able to generate toughness on demand is really useful

[pale basalt]

does ascendant blaze work w/staff? I didn't see it seem to work that way when I was testing it

[night marten]

just kills from the dot damage, not direct (either primary or secondary fire) *for the 10% chance at a warp charge

[cerulean rune]

purge staff stacks soulblaze and you'll get 10% chance to get warp charge

[pale basalt]

not working in psykarium last time i tried

[night marten]

kills from the dot work for me as of today

[raw breach]

Yes, the requirement for AB is that Soublaze (the DoT) actually kills the target

[pale basalt]

ty testing again, maybe they patched

[long wharf]

I'd like to think they'd have mentioned it in a patch notes

[soft prawn]

is this worth grabbing

[cerulean rune]

yea, it's working, testing it now
only 10% but if you're playing on damnation / heresy, no problem getting 4 stacks in no time

[long wharf]

not really

[ornate hamlet]

I'd say pass

[long wharf]

it was never not working - the soulblaze DoT has to kill the target

if the purge staff attack directly kills the target, no AB proc

[cerulean rune]

true

[raw breach]

blazing spirit would be good for Surge staff, but it's worthless for Void

[soft prawn]

how about this one? btw, are these exclusive to the contract dude? i have like 100 hours in-game and this is the first time i've seen this knife available

[long wharf]

blazing spirit would be great for purge

[ornate hamlet]

I would take it

[soft prawn]

i also haven't seen any shovels

[ornate hamlet]

But that's just me.

[raw breach]

No reason to give it to Purg tho

[ornate hamlet]

I like kjnives and once more while that knife is low on score,

[long wharf]

uh, every reason to give it to purge

[ornate hamlet]

its blessings and perks work well together

[long wharf]

it's called "a build"

[raw breach]

I prefer the combat axe to the combat knife. Push spamming is much better with the Antax Mk 5

But that dagger with lacerate would be decent for a zealot

[soft prawn]

i've been using this

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/this-joker-batman-heath-ledger-gif-4603978

[lilac karma]

[raw breach]

Your Catachan is better imo

[soft prawn]

thts from the contract dude, i haven't purchased yet

need to finish up this weeks contracts

[raw breach]

Not bad at all. Would be nice if the crit bonus were higher, but not bad at all.

[pale basalt]

Sould blaze isn't working with purg staff 😛 and yes I'm letting them burn.

[long wharf]

it works

it's only a 10% chance at warp charge

and the meat grinder isn't the best place to test, as there isn't really horde density of enemies to test on

[ornate hamlet]

awwww yeeee

[long wharf]

now upgrade it one more time to get +xp

or +chance at curio

[ornate hamlet]

If you jinx me...

[long wharf]

Hadron hates me

[soft prawn]

I really hate the experience perk on these

Just a complete waste of a perk slot once you're lvl 30

[foggy whale]

is there any damage reduction stat on curios that works against pox burster?

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-i-will-kill-you-kill-kill-you-gif-16432800

[white hemlock]

BOY IT SURE WOULD BE NICE IF THINGS COULD BE SHARED ACROSS CHARACTES. WHAT A NUANCED AND UNFATHOMABLE CONCEPT BY A COMPANY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER GAMES THAT LET YOU DO SUCH A THING

[ornate hamlet]

Dont you know you simply can't copy paste?

[foggy whale]

too complex

[soft prawn]

It has no use atm, maybe if/when they allow shared inventory

[raw breach]

I think the Damage resistance (bomber) counts poxbursters. it doesn't make sense for it to be dmg reduction to the fire granades from the actual bomber mobs when you look at the other damage reduction types

[ornate hamlet]

Are you trying to tell me that their perks are predetermined/

[white hemlock]

You mean the antimatter grenades?

[raw breach]

Sure, whatever they are. They leave fire on the ground, same as if you blow up a barrel

[white hemlock]

Making a joke that they are overtuned

lmao They might as well be phosphex bombs

[raw breach]

But it makes more sense in the damage reduction types on curios for the (bombers) to actually be bursters

though i could be completely wrong

[foggy whale]

Seriously needs better explaination in-game, same with damage resist (gunners) - who does that actually count against? what specific elites? only "gunner" or "shotgunner"? what about Reapers?

[white hemlock]

I thought there was one for bursters

I remember getting excited while leveling when I got one because I'd previously just died do a burster without getting downed all level

and was mad about it lmao

[raw breach]

From what I see on https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
there's Bombers, Gunners, Mutants, Pox Hounds, Snipers, and Tox Flamers

[grave bobcat]

Dogs trappers

[frigid sparrow]

Is it just me or does the purge burn stat not do anything?

[raw breach]

high burn is mandatory for purg

[soft prawn]

Burn stat increases the tick dmg I believe

[raw breach]

It increase how many stacks you can have and also how fast stacks are applied

[warm latch]

do we think True solo damnation is possible in DT?

tbh I can only really see it realistically being done on psyker as of rn

[raw breach]

for true solo, i'm sure they would make some tuning for hound/mutant spawns.

[sage flower]

I could see it being done on ogryn. With the amount of stagger they have, they can swagger through hordes with much less fear of getting stuck in a mosh pit when the hound/mutie comes a knockin. Psyker could probably do it with surge staff. I'm not sold on purg yet ,but maybe that would work too.

[tardy flower]

purge staff makes me feel unbelievably helpless if my veteran is a potato

[white hemlock]

bingo

[junior anvil]

if Pox Hounds didn't decide their bones should be made of jello and rubber both simultaneously as well as phasing in and out of existence then it would be more viable for sharpshooters

[sacred lodge]

I feel like I would like surge staff a bit more if I could just get a half decent roll and didn’t lose my charge if a pox Walker looked at me funny

But I’ve gotten this far, im in the lower end of heresy! Getting better, inch by bloody inch

[cyan notch]

get focused channeling blessing

[junior anvil]

^

helps a ton

[sacred lodge]

I think Hadron doesn’t like me very much. Keep getting unrelenting barrage

[bitter abyss]

can the blessing rating on a curio ever be high enough to make that a +2? cause that would be baller.

i doubt it, but figure i'd ask.

[ornate hamlet]

nope

[vocal hound]

I love checking the shop every hour for that 3% chance at a deflector sword!

[sacred lodge]

Why don’t people recommend wounds curios anyway? Are we that starved for health?

[ornate hamlet]

if it’s any consolation, I got one recently after 70 hours and it’s kind of meh

you’re not missing out on much

[tardy flower]

just don't die, no need for wounds

[sacred lodge]

True, although it can be clutch if you have the psykinetic barrier and can just no sell gunfire while rescuing all three squad mates

[ornate hamlet]

yea that’s pretty satisfying at least

[undone badge]

the only deflectors I saw had bad base stats, sad

[ornate hamlet]

most people though are somewhat competent so moments like that aren’t all too common

[ornate hamlet]

did u buy at least?

[tardy flower]

3% is pretty optimistic

[raw breach]

i gave up Deflector swords for Combat Axes and haven't looked back

[ornate hamlet]

pretty sure crafting later on is gonna let u extract blessings/perks

[undone badge]

yea, but it was 310 ish

[vital bough]

Me walking into the gunners melee range with my Deflector Sword

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-40k-psychic-charge-up-gif-22247024

Staring them down

[ornate hamlet]

when’s this weeks patch come out again? Wednesday?

[tardy flower]

wednesday allegedly

[white hemlock]

Thankfully, I have a 6%

[ornate hamlet]

hope they don’t fix quicken :)

[vocal hound]

What does quicken do that i'm unaware of?

[ornate hamlet]

sometimes it gives back 100% charge

https://youtu.be/ppkujWxSU8U

[raw breach]

I just feel like aside from Deflector, Force Sword isn't the best melee weapon and gets outclassed by Combat Axe's ease of use. The damage of FS warp attack isn't high enough for the peril cost

[vital bough]

Me holding the gunners' agro with Deflector while I ping them for my Vet:

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-17566336

[ornate hamlet]

fs attack is great when your pug group isn’t very good though

[kindred edge]

Chaos Space Marine mission boss when

[ornate hamlet]

and also being able to push rangers/maulers to the ground

[white hemlock]

I mostly use the sword to stun ragerss

[vital bough]

FS can actually one-shot a lot of elites if you do the heavy attack after charging instead of the light attack.

[heady sapphire]

Accurate lol I lost my sword with deflection on it because damage wasn’t enough to justify using it anymore and I’ve yet to get another one. Genuinely cannot wait for respect in crafting.

[ornate hamlet]

also infinite dodge spam on it

staggers elites, one shot with the charged heavy, infinite dodge, deflector. all very nice

[vital bough]

Charge attacks with FS can also crit if you have the crit blessing on your staff

[kindred edge]

Guarantee that the coming crafting update for perk rerolls will have an exponential crafting material cost

[heady sapphire]

FS is definitely my favorite melee weapon with the dueling and claw in a close tie for second

[undone badge]

it's very well rounded, with FS you have a solution for everything

[boreal flint]

What curios are best?

[ornate hamlet]

yeah maybe I’ll change my opinion when I’m lucky enough to get a high rolled axe

right now, stuck with FS and dueling swords 🤷‍♂️

[boreal flint]

I can’t get weapons that aren’t the headhunter tbh

[vital bough]

I thoroughly enjoy just walking forward and tanking shots with deflector though it's very satisfying.
Tho, depending on the crowd, more than like 6 gunners looking at you will fuck you up pretty quick

[boreal flint]

Stuck with my one surge staff and combat knife

[ornate hamlet]

rough

[boreal flint]

Also every curio I see has wound

[ornate hamlet]

wound-maxing

[vital bough]

[grave bobcat]

I get knocked down 🎵

[ornate hamlet]

I sure do love seeing exp % curios in my shop at level 30

[bitter abyss]

mk5 dueling sword. sprint>heavy attack>animation starts>crouch slide gang

[near wyvern]

I run with two + health and one + wound

[ornate hamlet]

I never tried this out, do you release the heavy or let the full animation play?

[bitter abyss]

2 w/ +toughness 1 w/ wound. bomber/gunner/hound, mutant, sniper reduction perk. imo.

[bitter abyss]

as soon as the animation of the attack fires, crouch slide, you zoom

[elfin crystal]

sniper going hehe boi

[near wyvern]

I kinda like the knife. So much mobility, the animations are awesome and the haymaker blessing is hilarious since even crushers and bulwarks are considered man-sized so there is a chance to instagib them

[elfin crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-22378372

[bitter abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/onehit-tryhard-gif-24675955

^ when the chaos sniper ate his wheaties.

[solid nexus]

friendly reminder that you all wouldve been fed to the golden throne not rotting in a prison

[stark snow]

This, and I imagine you'll only be able to craft the first blessing, so the second one will still be RNG gated. The entire crafting system is awful. They should just let you pick weapon blessings and level gate them. But the entire game needs a balance/bug pass anyway

[vital bough]

Me running to catch the sniper in melee range:

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-warhammer40k-astartes-astartes-running-gif-17108806

[elfin crystal]

that's implying we get there before the golden throne fails

[bitter abyss]

we're only alive because we proved our usefullness to the Inquisition outweighed the need for our immediate death. Same as the other classes more or less.

[outer smelt]

Hey guys, does the Storm Witch's Duty Raiment have any variants on the cosmetic store? Or is the last set of penance armor cosmetics for the Storm Witch's Penance set

[bitter abyss]

it doesn't sadly.

[vital bough]

The Veteran on the team, every time I lock onto an enemy with Brain Burst:

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-40k-pistol-energy-weapon-smoke-screen-gif-22246966

[elfin crystal]

yeah, but in all fairness. it's surprising we didn't get shot on the spot tbh

[outer smelt]

its probably because the situation is so desperate. There are no reinforcements coming. The planet and sector are cut off and whatever forces the Inquisitor brought with him/her are already engaged.

[elfin crystal]

yeah maybe

[near wyvern]

Blessing? You can re-roll a perk, not a blessing with the next update (one of the +x% something stat)

[stark snow]

you are going to be able to pull blessings off weapons and force slam them

[vital bough]

Sector wide quarantine, basically. Every hand on deck kinda situation, no outside help.

[stark snow]

I was saying in addition to what he's talking about

[azure radish]

Hi folks, I finally hit 30 and got a decent lightning stick, but I feel like I personally don't contribute much to the team other than popping specials and providing modest crowd control, is that just me? or.. well

[stark snow]

you'll likely only be able to force the first blessing

[azure radish]

am I playing it right :P

[elfin crystal]

i'm just worried master crafts will just be another level of rng

[near wyvern]

Eventually, but not after the next update.

[stark snow]

so the really difficult one to get, the 2nd one of the two you want

still has a greater cost

[white hemlock]

To be fair, even the borderline loyalist ones are strictly loyalist. They're just not blinded by the viel of bullshit

[azure radish]

[stark snow]

Yes, my point is both their proposed crafting systems are not going to significantly reduce the mats cost, because the blessing addition will also reduce the lower cost blessing to get. The much more costly blessing will still be RNG

[jaunty atlas]

i do it on purpose

it's not good ?

i mean .. it avoids peril right

[stark snow]

the entire point of the "This and" part of my statement

[near wyvern]

I just want to convert that almost 1k diamantine I have in the bank to plasteel. I have too much diamantine.

[tacit fractal]

How tf do you have more plasteel than diamantine

[jaunty atlas]

upgraded a lot of grey stuff ?

[near wyvern]

I have more diamantine than plasteel

[tacit fractal]

I got them mixed up sorry I just woke up lmao

[azure radish]

I am curious if you guys think that it is more useful to be doing less damage but provide modest CC with the lightning staff over other ones :)

[stark snow]

it depends on what the rest of your team is and their setups imo

[near wyvern]

Yes if your team can do DPS. Otherwise you are going to have a hard time.

[white hemlock]

If you want plasteel, you have to grind lower levels because that's fun!

[near wyvern]

FML

[azure radish]

I work graves and only get home and play on very weird hours in quickplay with weird people (Europeans ) so I am cursed to quickplay hell

ill be honest man, the only way I completed mine was pure chance when I wasn't trying, I suicide bombed a teammate rescue who was surrounded by specials

[tacit fractal]

You’re playing a support tank, you contribute a lot and if you don’t up your game, try a new gameplan, try a new weapon or two. You’ll hit a lot of situations as a lot of us damnation Psykers that we save a lot of games if you play your kit right

[severe folio]

hey guys, anyone got the vid for the surge staff cancel tech

[tacit fractal]

You shock and instantly switch your weapon is my way personally lol

Very easy

[severe folio]

oh

what about the pulse damage on the staff

you dont need the animation to make it pulse ?

[elfin crystal]

you technically also stun specials

[azure radish]

I guess I was more used to being able to do a lot more damage on malice difficulty with other staves, but in higher level crap I basically dodge around like a maniac zapping shit and popping specials so it feels weird

[tacit fractal]

You deal it instantly cause you skip the animation

[severe folio]

oh

[elfin crystal]

charger coming in? nope

[near wyvern]

Just learn to melee game and you don't need to rely on bugs

[elfin crystal]

dog coming in? nope

[tacit fractal]

Except you can’t stun mutants with shock skip

[elfin crystal]

you can

oh

yeah you can't with the skip

you need to shock them for a lil for the stun to trigger

[tacit fractal]

Like 1.5 seconds to get that stun in on mutants

[elfin crystal]

mhm

you can also abuse the bleed bug if it's still there

[drowsy fog]

I just saw a YouTube add for a new everquest expansion that things still going??

[elfin crystal]

i guess

[tacit fractal]

Just lettin you know Brain burst is not your main mechanic, it’s a tool and nothing more. You use it on weakening enemies for rest of the team to slaughter when the Vet isn’t taking care of it, you’ll most likely in the future make a build that’s based around BB but you won’t use bb manually

[azure radish]

ive been fooling around with the BB soulflame stuff and I get a kick out of using the trait that turbocharges the BB speed, I guess finding a good rhythm for higher levels of play is what has been illusive at the moment

[tacit fractal]

Surge staff’s is fucked but so is Void and if you’re something like Delerik you can make the nonexistent and eternal meme staff Trauma work

[elfin crystal]

i just use it sometimes on human size enemies. most of the time i just generate charges via the passives(kill + auto bb)

[vital bough]

The Feat that puts 2 stacks of Soulblaze on enemies around them when you BB will only tick for less than 10 damage a second, it's arguably the worst Feat that Psyker has.

[tacit fractal]

The 2nd row Soulblaze feat Wrack and Ruin iirc? Is very bad

[azure radish]

you know, it just dawned on me, I guess the reason I feel inefficient is I feel obligated to have the six stack

Oh yeah I fooled with the soulblaze and it sucks lol I learned that pretty fast

[elfin crystal]

oh yeah, you don't really need 6 stacks

it all gets better once you realize those are mostly just a bonus

[azure radish]

should you be that worried about having the stacks? Because I feel like I am failing the emperor if I don't keep as good an uptime on at least 4

[tacit fractal]

The damage comparisong between 6 and 4 stacks in higher difficulties is nonexistent if you’re not using Ascendant Blaze

[stark snow]

I never worry about stacks tbh

[elfin crystal]

i just take the auto bb instead since it makes stack generation/upkeep more stable and adds free damage

[vital bough]

The only good Soulblaze Feat's are the one's at lvl 25 and 30, the other Soulblaze Feat for BB kills on elites is garbage, low damage, low stacks, slow and inneficient to use BB.

And even then Soulblaze is still underwhelming in terms of damage numbers

[tacit fractal]

Six warp charges isn’t bad but kinetic flayer also works great with melee and Surge because you can pop then BB’s with Surge even with the small chip dmg shock you do

[azure radish]

I suppose the stacks aren't a life or death thing, but on heresy and above there's just so much bullshit happening so often it is occasionally.. difficult to brain burst

[vital bough]

You should not be making it a priority, at all, to brain burst if you can help it.

[stark snow]

I mean maintaining stacks is fine if nothing else is going on, but imo its absolutely the least important thing going on

[vital bough]

Only use Brain Burst when it's your ONLY OPTION to deal with something

[tacit fractal]

It’s difficult if your teammates can’t do their own personal role of ad clearing lmao

[azure radish]

I guess ill stop looking at it as a necessity, because that's how I had been looking at it before

[elfin crystal]

imo good luck bb shit on here/damn when 5 chargers in a row rush your team

[tacit fractal]

Like I said, BB’s a tool, not your weapon

[elfin crystal]

it's just too slow

yeah

[azure radish]

I appreciate the input guys :) I know there isn't a 'foolproof' quickplay build, but I am trying to figure it out

[pure lion]

I find myself frequently having trouble keeping up with my party because of the need to quell peril, any tips?

[elfin crystal]

👍

do you use a staff?

[tacit fractal]

Use staff

[azure radish]

because when you can't coordinate with teammates you gotta do the legwork yourself

[pure lion]

yeah, running purg

[azure radish]

anyways, back to work, iluguise

[pure rapids]

use a none force melee

[pure lion]

it's always zealots just sprinting ahead

[vital bough]

2 feats that make it almost a non issue for keeping your stacks up:
Psychic Communion at lvl 15, and Kinetic Flayer at lvl 25.

Take one, take both, it doesn't matter, taking just one of them will significantly lighten the strain of keeping your Warp Charges stacked up from BB's

[gritty perch]

why do I never see heresy level repair, investigation, or espionage?!

[pure rapids]

passive quelling from non-force melee are very fast

[spiral remnant]

Emperor be praised!

not the best rating but I'll take it!

[junior anvil]

CHOP CHOP

[pure rapids]

then that's just Zealots being Zealots

[elfin crystal]

mmm maybe take the talent or try to get high quell speed on it, but usually staves help a fair bit in that regard. alternatively, if you change weapon to a non warp weapon, it'll quell faster i heard

[drowsy fog]

Zealots aiming for that 20 min penance

[tacit fractal]

And if they’re rushing then i’m sorry, if they aren’t and you’re still not keeping up, space out your peril quelling right for appropriate times or just let it quell passively cause it’s fast

[vital bough]

If you have a melee weapon that's a non-warp weapon, just run to your teammates while holding your melee and letting it passively vent.

[tacit fractal]

Zealots are also apes, good apes when they don’t just brainlessly rush but do it with strats then they’re amazing

[elfin crystal]

high quell speed + toughness regen on quell is also very good. allows you to basically almost always be in fight

[near wyvern]

But is it good with stats?

[vital bough]

I personally prefer the combo of the 30% Toughness regen over 5s when you get a warp charge.

Take it with Psychic Communion (and Ascendant Blaze if you run Soulblaze) and you'll have tons of warp charges without Brain Bursting, pretty consistently as long as you're around stuff that's dying.

[tacit fractal]

It’s either the warp charge 30% regen for 5s or Quetitude honestly for the first feat cause the middle one where you need to do warp damage sucks ass HARD

[spiral remnant]

anybody have any tips for getting higher gear rating stuffs in the shop? I've been stuck on 360-370 base for a while now

[spiral remnant]

ehhh not the best damage roll unfortunately

[finite gazelle]

dope

[vital bough]

Max base stats on weapons is 380 iirc.

That's just what I've been told though, don't take it as gospel.

[spiral remnant]

big E i assume?

[spiral remnant]

seems about right

but through like 16 shop changes

havent seen a single past 368 base

[elfin crystal]

yeah it's probably another good option. i just like the ability to get toughness when i need it. so let's say, if the team is struggling, i can tank while quelling and go right back to dishing cc/damage

[near wyvern]

The toughness for quelling is not really enough in Herecy/damnation unless you are running psychic communion, kinetic flayer and quickening

[elfin crystal]

i do heresy damn, it's 100% enough

[elfin crystal]

i think i am running those funnily enough

[static epoch]

yeeah that's what i use too

[finite gazelle]

feel like him when im swinging this aye

[spiral remnant]

naw i meant as in one of his gifts?

[finite gazelle]

nah mission reward

[spiral remnant]

ye

[junior anvil]

I run all of those things except Kinetic Barrage instead of Quickening

[spiral remnant]

big e's gifts

[finite gazelle]

just woke up ignore me

[spiral remnant]

lol

[elfin crystal]

for me, it's just better, because if things start to go badly, people will stop killing and that will reduce your charge gain or the toughness on kill. it just seems better to me, because you have control over the toughness you get

[spiral remnant]

btw, what gear rating items are you running?

my yellow gifts are usually 450-460

[river crest]

my issue with 30% toughness over 5 seconds is that it often feels like when I'm actually gaining warp charges, I'm usually gaining them faster than once every 5 seconds and wasting the previous application. Whereas peril is something I'm constantly generating and quelling.

[spiral remnant]

498 is unusually high

[vital bough]

Look guys, I'm sorry, but if you're not running MY BUILD that I play (obviously the only right way to play psyker) then you're just NOT GONNA MAKE IT on those higher levels.
Only MY BUIILD (the only right build obv.) can deal with the stressful, high octane situations that Damnation (the ultimate challenge) will throw at you.

[elfin crystal]

498 not bad

[near wyvern]

Seems about right.

You only get to 500 and above if you have a good roll on the base stats

[finite gazelle]

just got this pysker to 30 so pretty barebones stuff apart from the melee

[elfin crystal]

i mean, we all have different play styles

[spiral remnant]

i play purg and soulblaze build because funny arsen

[spiral remnant]

oh wow

[finite gazelle]

not really bothered upgrading anything yet

[spiral remnant]

390 is a really good voidstrike tho

i assume 370 base and a 20 perk

[elfin crystal]

probably a lil lower

[spiral remnant]

nvm blue i forgor

[elfin crystal]

since perk and blessing

ye

[finite gazelle]

oh yeah it clears hordes like nobodies business. Prefer surge for the instant special/elite cuck though

[vital bough]

It's blue so it's likely 20 perk, 40 blessing

[static epoch]

purg is fun but being blind is not fun 😄

[near wyvern]

Kek.

Yeah it's funny people argue about staves when they all have their uses. I don't run a fixed build in damnation, I take whatever I think the team needs.

[boreal flint]

What feats for level 30?

[spiral remnant]

yeah but i get to have a seizure and my teammates still compliment me :)

i just whip it back and forth like nobody's business

[river crest]

it'd be easier to do that if the lobby showed the ranged weapons rather than melee 😦

[spiral remnant]

been playing with trauma a bit. it's definitely not bad, but it is a bit worse than the other options

[static epoch]

my purgatus is in storage right now since i sent an ogryn flying off a bridge cause i didn't see a barrel

[drowsy fog]

dang got a nearly perfect purgatus out of the shop

[near wyvern]

That is true but you gan guestimate if you got a triple veteran stack or two shield ogryns as an example

[spiral remnant]

fr?

i want a good purg

but bad shop rolls have forced me to play with surg

[drowsy fog]

damage is low and warp resist is 2% off max but everything else is max

[elfin crystal]

i wish trauma would get a slight buff. it was pretty fun in the beta

[forest scaffold]

I'm just wishing I could get a dang force sword from the shop. Been 2 days since I've seen any of em lol

[drowsy fog]

but its purgatus how much does damage really matter lol

another one that was more well-rounded too

[near wyvern]

You don't need damage on purge. High Burn is good enough.

[drowsy fog]

yeye max burn bb

[spiral remnant]

the peril is a bid bad imo

it uses so much compared to void strike

[elfin crystal]

i wish i could have a good purg staff, never seen one above 360

[spiral remnant]

fuuuck

[ashen ore]

Its been a few shop resets since I have seen a staff, is this normal?

[elfin crystal]

nice warp resist and quell