psyker-class

[teal cargo]

👀

[potent echo]

Which is?

[uneven sparrow]

My friend is a zealot and said after a loss “I could feel myself carrying”

Me, silently: “no I carried trust me”

[trail tapir]

Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous

[teal cargo]

in character for Zealot

[potent echo]

Oh nice

[muted wyvern]

I kickstarted Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Worth it

Still gotta play Wrath of the Righteous though

[idle shuttle]

which boss is this

[trail tapir]

It's like kingmaker but better in every way tbh

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard/seen

[trail tapir]

And the soundtrack is incredibly hype

[muted wyvern]

Problem is I’ve got like 4-5 other crpgs to play rn in my backlog.

[deft fiber]

Especially freaking tactical map and battles for sure

[potent echo]

Plagueogryn but daemonhost probably easier

[inland glen]

Hello. Any tips for a so called "Gun-Psyker"? I mostly have a problem to find a good Toughness feat because i´feel they're all weak. And the middle one "Warp Absorbtion"
(Replenish 10% Toughness when you kill an enemy with a Warp attack.) is for Staffs if i'm thinking correctly.

[idle shuttle]

gun psyker ive found to be very effective at getting votekicked

[potent echo]

The warpcharge one is fine isn't it? You just pop one head when you have low toughness

[trail tapir]

https://youtu.be/5a1rPHaQ5fQ

Check if this doesn't help it move up your list

[muted wyvern]

Pillars of Eternity and PoE Deadfire, Divinity OS 1 and 2, Disco Elysium, pretty sure I’m missing one too. Maybe once I clear that up I’ll grab WotR…

[trail tapir]

Divinity OS2 is very worth it too

[muted wyvern]

Yeah

[trail tapir]

I didn't like the first game too much but 2 is great

[muted wyvern]

Played some of OS1

But stopped a while back and haven’t gotten back in

[trail tapir]

Oh and Disco Elysium holy shit

That's an experience everyone needs to have

[potent echo]

I haven't followed rogue trader at all but could you make your own character?

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, dude Disco Elysium and Original Sin 2 are definitely ones I’m hyped to play, but yeah… backlog be backloggin’

[deft fiber]

BG3 soon tho.

[muted wyvern]

Not to mention even just finding time to play anything at all rn is rough

[muted wyvern]

Yeah, I know 😭

Not buying it until Launch though, not paying full AAA price for an Early Access game, they’re insane. I blame WotC for that one. They’re greedy fucks.

[idle shuttle]

hmm checking the shop in the morning before work has become routine now.. with coffee

need that brutal antax

[near wyvern]

F2P life has entered the P2P market

[idle shuttle]

thx tencent

[safe sun]

Gun Psyker is just worse Veteran, Brain Burst drops off hard in higher difficulties where Veterans can kill most elites much faster.

[deft fiber]

Idk, Larian said 100 times that EA is only if you want and all the shit. Notes been like everywhere "DO NOT BUY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO IT'S EARLY ACCEESS".

[tidal scaffold]

Disco Elysium?!?!

Must play

[idle shuttle]

i wanna dedicate this award to my reformed orthodox rabbi Bill Clinton thankyou

[uneven sparrow]

Which is bizarre - every class has guns by design lol

[teal sluice]

Tyranny too

[muted wyvern]

Right, but charging full price during early access is scummy. The customary 10% off in early access to me is like saying “thanks for bug testing our shit.”

[uneven sparrow]

If gun Psyker wasn’t meant to exist fatshark would have said psykers can’t shoot

[idle shuttle]

you can always be silly

in FFXI a warrior could subclass whitemage

to "heal himself"

now hes casting with STR

[uneven sparrow]

Like in elden souls when a staff scales its magic damage off dexterity instead of the int stat

[heady sapphire]

My buddy the ogryn when things are getting hairy: “I can only do so much what the fuck is everyone else doing?”

Me, doing the literal most to keep everyone alive despite their best efforts to fucking die: “yeah I have no idea what they’re doing.”

What the zealots on the team are doing is dying from holy fervor after charging into the hordes headfirst, triggering all the elites, then running back to me and the ogryn like “please help us”

[muted wyvern]

I genuinely believe that Wizards of the Coast made Larian sell EA at full price, just because that is a very WotC move… played enough MTG and D&D and they fucking hate their customers, I swear.

[near wyvern]

Just completed my first Damnation pug, we had two shield ogryns, a zealot and me with purgatus. It was surprisingly smooth but ended up using BB quite a lot to deal with ranged

[heady sapphire]

Zealots be like “did you see how I cleared that whole horde single-handedly?”

[frigid zenith]

The zealot bugs are just stupid right now.

[muted wyvern]

Zealot be Zealotin’

[frigid zenith]

slide to win basically.

[teal sluice]

Zealot brings little utility

My guy is straight up a worse vet

[idle shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/zealot-starcraft-protoss-portrait-gif-15200134

[near wyvern]

I see vets doing exactly the same after they come back from completing their weekly malice run races

[heady sapphire]

MAN THE VETS ARE EVEN WORSE THAN THE ZEALOTS

[near wyvern]

BB does shit damage but holy F it's safe as what against ranged as long as you can hug a corner

[uneven sparrow]

Look, the god emperor of mankind is a Psyker

[runic gate]

What's the highest base stats yall have seen in this discord?

[uneven sparrow]

[heady sapphire]

At least zealots have horde stun capacity that can save the whole team in a pinch. Vets just squishy and typically aren’t doing much aside from shooting the ogryn in the back

[near wyvern]

380 total stats with 80 max for any single stat

[covert ermine]

Larian have goodwill on their side. So far they delivered on their promises even in ea bg3 is a solid 20h game. But its up to you.

[runic gate]

I know I have a 380 axe, but I can't say I've seen 380 staves, have you?

[heady sapphire]

Also why do the vets insist on blowing up barrels at the literal worst possible time, launching teammates off the map constantly? Are they griefing or just dumb?

[near wyvern]

I own a 379 I think

[muted wyvern]

I feel like Vets need to play psyker first. Learn how to not be a Brain Burst sniping chode, and also get into the habit of looking for elites and killing them. Then, they can grab an XII lasgun and be productive members of the team lol

[covert ermine]

They are just people with guns what do you expect from roughnecks? A circus show?

[runic gate]

Could you post that baby? I've been looking but the highest I've found personally so far is a green 368 base that I've been holding on upgrading 😦

[uneven sparrow]

I blow them up for fun but always do a “check there”

[runic gate]

Does anyone here have a 380 base stat staff? Or what's their current highest?

[heady sapphire]

I expect that the veteran will sharpshoot the sniper I pinged that I can’t currently manage because I’m busy bursting the gunners/ragers. Except they hardly ever do because they’re usually inside the horde with a fucking shovel.

[runic gate]

Been thinking about upgrading this for a few days now. Meh perk but base stats are the highest I have for staff.

[heady sapphire]

I’m holding onto anything that looks good stat wise and waiting to touch crafting until it’s completed and ready to actually be used. No sense spending all my resources just to upgrade a weapon with undesirable perks on it and no means to get better ones

[safe sun]

Well, you'll be able to swap the perk out in a couple days anyway, so I'd say it should be a decent crafting base

[random wolf]

I mean for a Voidstrike that's fine

Just go for it

Even if you get higher who cares. Its not Mastercrafted

[random wolf]

This is my baby though.

Since you asked.

[runic gate]

I'm honestly just trying to see if anyone has a 375-380 beast out there.

[random wolf]

Yes?

[safe sun]

yeah I found a 380 trauma staff

[wanton cove]

!!!!

[grave bobcat]

OKAY THIS GAME

[safe sun]

saddest day of my life

[grave bobcat]

I WILL NOT HAVE ANY GRIEFED TRAITS OR WEAPONS

ON GOD

[deft fiber]

I wonder why you wonder.

[runic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-kiss-yum-delicious-al-bacio-gif-5654062

[tight saddle]

I hated my Feats as well lmao

[wanton cove]

Gravity and myself were my worst enemy in VT. Now I don’t touch battle and these spicy boys keep yeeting me off maps!!

Why are you even hitting barrels randomly in 4+ 😭

[random wolf]

I mean I'm more than happy to show my baby.

Its an excuse to brag

[grave bobcat]

Like Toughness on Warp charge is fucking dog when I could be getting infinite amounts from my Surge

[runic gate]

At this point that's probably what I'll do too, thanks!

[grave bobcat]

DIdn't have the peril dmg trait...

15% BB rather than 6 stacks

Absolute travesty

[round shuttle]

Here’s my surge staff. I’ve upgraded it to max since but don’t have a screenshot of that handy.

[heady sapphire]

Only a couple more days best case scenario too

[wanton cove]

Bro last night I was about to clear another 4 and got yeeted down a level and swarmed after a vet shot a barrel and he proceeded to yell at me for “getting separated” 🤣🤣

Boy if I could BB you…if only you had a brain…

[heady sapphire]

Friendly fire for BB on 4+ wen?

Go ahead veteran. Say something rude after I rez you. I’ll fucking put you out of your misery.

[round shuttle]

Botched the link

[deft fiber]

Meanwhile i haven't seen a single one FS in 3 days.

[tight saddle]

anyone on right now know the 100% peril inf rmb trick on Void?

[wanton cove]

I’ve still never seen a dang knife lol

[deft fiber]

My condolences.

[fair axle]

The chances of getting a 370-379 weapon you want is 0,235%. The chance to roll it with a 25 perk is 0.02337% chance and the chance for that 25 perk also being the one you want is 0.00116% chance 🙂

[uneven sparrow]

It’s like the one ring after it spent 1000 years in a river

[wanton cove]

Got incredibly lucky with a defector FS early on but it’s stats are eh rn

Some people here post insane rolls. Hope we all get some of those soon

[fair axle]

Actually the perk chance part is much lower, I just don't want to account for green and blue quality weapons only

[frigid zenith]

So the max base weapon must be 400 with everything at 80.

[fair axle]

The max base rating is 380

Yes, it would be 400 if those existed, but they do not

[frigid zenith]

Is that some hardcap that's established?

They wont let a weapon roll all 80s?

[fair axle]

Nope

It's suspected that Veteran weapons (red) will cap out stat weights entirely

So adding a 120 base rating

[ebon jolt]

Any info on if tier 5 blessings will exist when creating is fully implemented?

[fair axle]

They do not exist. Blessings comes in 4 Tiers - take the Deflector as an example. It starts at 6% block efficiency and ends at 15% block efficiency. T1 is 6%, T2 is 9, T3 is 12 and T4 is 15 - they add slightly more fluff around the perk as an "identifier"

[ebon jolt]

I’d take that staff of your hand if you don’t want it…

[frigid zenith]

That sucks.

[river sand]

has anybody seen a void with good stats and double shot ?

[wanton cove]

Can’t reroll blessing her right?

Double shot?!?!

[deft glen]

Whats max power for a curio ?

[wanton cove]

I’ve only seen flurry and quell blessing

[fair axle]

No, can't exchange blessings yet

[river sand]

only got a shitty one

[wanton cove]

Wow that’s cool.

[celest phoenix]

not seen more than 80 on a curio

[grave bobcat]

As a total rating?

[deft glen]

both i guess

[fair axle]

Max I've seen is:
78 rating, but if datamining is to be believed 24% health curios should exist so it could potentially go to 90 rating for just a blessing..

[deft glen]

highest base and max all together

[vagrant cedar]

also Devs: THERE@S A BILLION WEAPON POSSIBILITIES AND IT TAKES 300 YEARS TO BEAT THE GAME

[ebon jolt]

My void staff with surge has base stats of 347 and +4% crit rate but the second perk is bad and the distribution of stats is only okay.

[fair axle]

Meh, I’m just tracking this stuff so I can show the Devs how their vision of less RNG and more player agency than Vermintide has completely backfired.. in an outrageously grotesque manner..

[ebon jolt]

I’m imagining they’ll increase base rating in some future major update to get players interested in the game again. The whole destiny 2 thing where an expansion comes out and all your old gear sucks and is worthless now. Maybe in tandem with a new difficulty.

[near wyvern]

Sry I am not at the computer at the moment

[tight saddle]

machine gun staff funny

[sonic aspen]

I just opened my shop and see this

Its taunting me

[pearl tide]

anybody willing to help with the monster penance?

[fair axle]

You're using a macro tho, that animation cancel 🙂

[near wyvern]

I find this axe type so unreliable for head shots

[tight saddle]

you can do it without macro, but even with a macro it's not wroth

it's just funny

[devout belfry]

How do you do that?

[sonic aspen]

I just want a good MK V combat axe

but i keep finding Mk II

[tight saddle]

quench lmb back to back

[tight saddle]

this is without a macro and without practicing it

[devout belfry]

Wish surge tossed a lightning bolt with left click.

[sonic aspen]

I wish Psykers yelled "Witness your doooooom"

[fair axle]

Oh yeah, but it was just obvious it was a macro animation cancelling, 'cos it looks the exact same as the Force Sword animation cancelling where you never switch off your sword, but always do wide sweep heavy attacks 😛

[tight saddle]

even the fs cancel can be done without a macro just fine

but ofc people are going to macro instead since it's annoying

[trail tapir]

wdym I yell it all the time while playing

Sometimes you can hear me ranting about metal bawkses too

Especially when a shield ogryn shows up

[sonic aspen]

Just tried this with the flame staff for giggles and it works but I can't do it that effectively

[fair axle]

The most hilarious one I have seen so far was sprint and slide macro, it was executing perfect sliding..

[tight saddle]

if you sprint while doing it you do this, no damage flame lmb spam lmfao

[idle shuttle]

chance to CC tho

and chance to not

[sonic aspen]

Yeah I had to not sprint to make it kind of work sprinting does that make it do nothing

[tight saddle]

no, the one I'm doing in that clip doesn't CC either

[glass osprey]

Did they explain why they took blazing spirit off the surge staff?

[sonic aspen]

It just fires flames that do nothing and you explode if you sprint and do it

[idle shuttle]

ive had a purg staf that CCs and one that doesnt CC..

[tight saddle]

if you time the quell on time you can stop stop the explosion when doing that

[celest oar]

because pyskers cant have good stuff

[glass osprey]

[tight saddle]

it depends on your staffs stats

[junior anvil]

Which axes are the good ones again? Mk 5 and what else?

[fair axle]

Purgatus staff has two CC components.
LMB CCs most everything but Ogryn's, Poxbursters and Mutants.
RMB adds the Maulers and Flak Ragers to the list of targets it does not CC

[sonic aspen]

Huh just tried that and wow you can basically stay at 100% with no explosion

[celest oar]

its lazy post count programming

they will probably fix it real soon, considering it should be a pretty easy fix

voidstrike machine gun on the other hand is gonna take alot longer to fix

[fair axle]

They will focus fixing the MTX store first before they fix the rest

[idle shuttle]

Id like a bug where you quell WHILE exploding

and remain alive

[fair axle]

How dare you suggest they would fix everything else that was easy fix

[idle shuttle]

please add this bug

[celest oar]

whelp, this week seems to be ogryn supremacy and i will be off to main my ogryn again once the two weapons are out

[trail oar]

How the heck did you guys do ''Going out with a bang'' Penance? I feel like i never see 3 specials or elites together, what's the massive big brain ogryn strat that my feeble mind can't comprehend?

[wanton cove]

Sadge we shall miss u

[celest oar]

inb4 powermaul is like the thunder hammer... imagine a 2 handed giant ass hammer that can only hit 1 enemy

[wanton cove]

Yeah heard mega dissapointment RE TH

[devout belfry]

Any easy way to do "pick and mix" -_-

[celest oar]

with a team its probably easy

without... LOL

[devout belfry]

Gonna have some friends pre bake in the damage lol

[idle shuttle]

i read your name as TheRedSoreness

[celest oar]

i cant be bothered to do the broken penances

[devout belfry]

[celest oar]

they already mentioned something about re-looking at the penances this week

[wanton cove]

Ewww xD

[celest oar]

hopefully some of them turn out more reasonable and doable without pre-mades

[tropic geyser]

Surge staff upgrade was going pretty well until I got Run and Gun for the legendary blessing -_-

[wanton cove]

I do NOT want any sort of red patchie soreness after walking thru tertium 💀

[celest oar]

malleus monstrostum should be tuned down to 60% damage. Thats a difficult but possible number to hit in a pub lolz

[tight saddle]

another fun trick for those of you that don't know

[uneven sparrow]

The level 30 bottom feat will help

[celest oar]

ah yes the glorious surge sprint cancel

[severe folio]

man i fuking hate wiping at near the end

[devout belfry]

Think he's quell canceling.

[severe folio]

who tf carry a med kit but doesnt know how to drop it

[celest oar]

you cant quell cancel on surge

[uneven sparrow]

I used to but now I’m just like:

[devout belfry]

Why aren't you exploding?

[celest oar]

because fatshark does lazy programming

[river sand]

The mission where you gotta secure that train station with the aa weapons. right before you jump down to the last jump there are usually around 10 elites in sight. hope its not too many ogryns and give it a go

[ocean tusk]

Okay previously my favourite class to play alongside was ogryn... that has now changed after the match I had with a zealot who had the flamethrower and I had the purgatus staff. My screen lit up like a Christmas tree

[celest oar]

basically for staffs, so long as you cancel any attack animation before it ends, you dont explode

[uneven sparrow]

Is the soft 100 cancel bad programming? I thought it was like a warning

“You’re gonna explode if you do another cast”

[celest oar]

the primary fire bolts are instant cast, so you still explode, but you can quell cancel to get rid of the weird 300ms animation delay after firing, same for voidstrike

[celest oar]

he is casting even at 100

[devout belfry]

That's some spaghetti

[uneven sparrow]

I do see that, so are we saying we want to explode when we use a light at 100

[celest oar]

so what happens is usually, 100 peril > cast > animation end > explode
but now what happens is 100 peril > cast > animation interrupt > no explode

[uneven sparrow]

Ah, thank you. That is a lil wild

[celest oar]

its lazy programming and they did a post count

[severe folio]

gaslighting the warp daemons before they could infiltrate your mind

[uneven sparrow]

As it stands psykers exploding more might not be anyone’s priority but still valid lol

[celest oar]

All they need to do to fix this is to make the explosion trigger send the moment you try casting at 100 peril. Although that would make you explode instantly at 100 and no time to press F, so they need to add an exception and allow the cast animation to end but maintaining explosion trigger

If that makes sense to the non-programmers

long story short, its easy to fix compared to void strike machine gun

that requires complete animation re-doing and hard locking the animation

[devout belfry]

Easy to fix really depends on how terrible their code base is.

[celest oar]

no way they are getting that done this week

[devout belfry]

If Vermintide taught me anything - it's that they're not following bEsT pRaCtIcEs.

[celest oar]

lets see how long they take to fix a "simple" exploit

in the mean time, its lightning for days guys

[echo parrot]

This scene is considered a black sheep amongst softdev.

[severe folio]

next patch remove surge staff until bug fix

[devout belfry]

The staff intentionally made it as wrong as possible to fuck with anyone vaguely in software.

[celest oar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/starwars-star-wars-episode-3-3o84sq21TxDH6PyYms

[severe folio]

does this imply even purg staff can do it

[celest oar]

purg has something even funnier

[severe folio]

i want to see

[celest oar]

ask and you shall be given

[severe folio]

thanks

[echo parrot]

I think I'm going to play vet for awhile. Having your entire rotation be spam surge and then spam more surge has gotten old for me

[proud mantle]

does this work with hipfire sprint on purg 👀

[celest oar]

yes

[proud mantle]

LMAO

[severe folio]

can you explain to me whats happening in these vid

[celest oar]

also for secondary fire, so long as you sprint cancel before the bar finishes, you dont explode

[velvet spear]

surge staff + combat axe is a good time

[celest oar]

the first video = quell cancel, pressing r the moment the bolt / flame leaves the staff
the 2nd video = sprint before bar finishes

[echo parrot]

Gets old pretty quickly

[proud mantle]

theres a much easier cancel for purg which is just quelling right before the secondary bar runs out

[celest oar]

in both cases, you dont explode

[echo parrot]

Easy != To fun at all times

[severe folio]

i see

[celest oar]

that is kind of what i mentioned

[severe folio]

so for purg

you dont explode when you charging it at 100

[celest oar]

yep, you only enter explode animation after attack animation ends

[vagrant cedar]

you don't explode when you go over 100 if you cool it down

[severe folio]

i see

[celest oar]

based on this logic

the game treats it as if you never casted the spell

because the explosion trigger only happens after animation ends

[severe folio]

i see

[vagrant cedar]

but ytou can only cancel it with a cooldown

[celest oar]

but if you interrupt the animation, it never triggers

[vagrant cedar]

if you get hit you still explode

no?

[celest oar]

you interrupt it with sprint or quell depending on lmb / rmb

some animations can be interrupted by quell, some by sprint

[vagrant cedar]

how can you interrupt it with a sprint

wut

if you're at 100 and you're having explode animation?

[runic juniper]

sprinting can interrupt yeah, was a good way to reload cancel

[celest oar]

I am assuming you have never tried reload cancel

[uneven sparrow]

Nerf this -

[vagrant cedar]

yeah you can reload cool it down

but you won't cancel it if you have explode animation going

only before that while you're at 100

[uneven sparrow]

It is a coop game

[celest oar]

you interrupt it before you get into the explode animation

[vagrant cedar]

yeah that's agame mechanic tho

[severe folio]

thats def not a game mechanic

seeing as it completely nullify the need of the 100% bar lol

[celest oar]

its an exploit you can fire at 100% peril and not explode

or you can do stupid shit with voidstrike

[uneven sparrow]

if you do this super specific thing repeatedly and constantly*

[uneven sparrow]

It’s like the sliders

[severe folio]

it has the potential to do repeatedly and constantly

[uneven sparrow]

Slide away bro I do not care

[celest oar]

voidstrike machinegun shreds through hordes

and you can use the primary fire to machine gun down specials

[severe folio]

but is it max charge voidstrike

[celest oar]

nope, min charge

[severe folio]

sad

[celest oar]

still does the job, and better because of quell peril

[unkempt juniper]

so how are you doing this?

[celest oar]

press r the moment the bolt leaves the staff

[uneven sparrow]

If we were pvping things might be different but as it stands it just feels like halo sword lunging

[celest oar]

same concept, its quell cancel

[unkempt juniper]

ah

[proud mantle]

yeah idk how ur getting the animations out that quick for primary purg fire

[celest oar]

also press r the moment flame leaves staff

[runic juniper]

nomanus staff too, sprint instead of quelling. you even get the big damage tick faster by canceling the animation

broken as shit

[unkempt juniper]

nomanus???

[proud mantle]

oh

[runic juniper]

lightning staff

[unkempt juniper]

oh

[severe folio]

why you call it nomanus

is that its in lore name

[unkempt juniper]

i thought there was a 5th staff i haven't seen yet

[celest oar]

we dont use surge for damage lolz and even with cancelling the dmg is shit

[runic juniper]

because that's what it's fucking called lol

[unkempt juniper]

dont get my hopes up like that dude

[severe folio]

i though its called surge staff

and nomanus is the manufacturer ?

[runic juniper]

literally the name

there are multiple surge staffs

the lightning one is nomanus

[severe folio]

only the lightning get the name nomanus ?

[bleak tulip]

(nobody actually calls it that)

[runic juniper]

lightning shooty shooty bolts there you go

[proud mantle]

man the purg cancel looks so fucking goofy

[bleak tulip]

if my name was Equinox enjoyer you wouldnt know what the fuck I was on about

[uneven sparrow]

Etymology 1

Borrowed from Latin manus (“hand”).

🗿

[proud mantle]

no manus?

[uneven sparrow]

Look ma

No manus

[severe folio]

apparently only surge staff have the name nomanus

never noticed

why do void and trauma staff gets equinox then

well they both have the same crest

[celest oar]

probably some lore related reason

[echo parrot]

Nom Anus

[uneven sparrow]

[celest oar]

thats perfection

[sterile lake]

so it is called "look mom, without hands" 🤣

[echo parrot]

bows

[celest oar]

from now on we should call the surge staff... the nom anus

[severe folio]

it seem like all the staffs name are originate in darktide

cant find external source like the guns

[zinc phoenix]

Because psyker power comes from psyker not stick

You don’t need a “shooty lightning” stick in the lore, so there’s no name

[echo parrot]

• Join lobby with other Psyker.
• Other Psyker: "You equinoxing or noming anus?"
• Leave lobby, questioning life decisions.

[zinc phoenix]

Nom nom nom

[celest oar]

anus anus anus

[jagged pilot]

@echo parrot Tell em you are noming their anus

[celest oar]

shoo, wrong chat

[bleak kraken]

RIP

[jagged pilot]

What reasons are there to take the Power Sword ?

[fair axle]

Shame it's 20 rating perks

[echo parrot]

Sibling.. why do you have a bolter. Why do you have a bolter sibling. SIBLING, WHY DO YOU HAVE-

[fair axle]

Deflector tankaroo

[paper trail]

Having picked the wrong class at char creation

[zinc phoenix]

Force sword? It can rev to do massive damage while ignoring armor and it can get some neato traits

[runic juniper]

yeah im calling bolters the locke now

[fair axle]

Being a better tank than Ogryns.

[celest oar]

he was a zealot in disguise, here to preach to us

[echo parrot]

loner personality intensifies

[jagged pilot]

@zinc phoenix But when you charge it and hit, it kinda locks into the animation, and it's just single target

I take staff + starter sword thingy

[vagrant cedar]

ofc it is, if it wasn't you'd have explode animation on 100%

[echo parrot]

Use a knife

[velvet spear]

psa: Storm Witch's Duty armor set is a christmas outfit

[vagrant cedar]

without any chance to R cool down

[echo parrot]

Unbiased opinion

[jagged pilot]

@echo parrot I smell nomanus bias kinda

[echo parrot]

So, you smell the psyker chat as a whole.

[celest oar]

go away anus lover, i prefer my equinox

[echo parrot]

[jagged pilot]

@echo parrot It is shmelly my sibling

[uneven sparrow]

From Palpatine to Paul Blart - My experiences as a Psyker, now available at goodreads.com

[echo parrot]

99c on kindle.

[gilded cave]

Sup freaks, is Pick n Mix still bugged? I keep seeing people saying they're finally completing their Psyker penances and I can't tell if they managed to get it before it bugged or if it works now

[tranquil badge]

I got mine two days ago for pick and mix

[night marten]

I don't know if it was ever bugged

[tranquil badge]

Heresy difficulty on excise vault with high intensity

It just doesn’t show you progress if that’s what you mean by bugged

You either get it or you don’t no progress

[celest oar]

yea talking about heresy diff... it defaults to high intensity without modifiers, but dosent give you progress for special conditions

[gilded cave]

cheers I keep hearing conflicting reports, I'll give it a whirl then

[night marten]

open with normal BB, ult (with k barrage), then hit the other 4. you got it

[echo parrot]

You can get Pick n Mix on Malice

Thats where I got it by accident

[celest oar]

and devs keep denying it, "its just a UI error!"
Sureeee, and thoese 3 plague ogryns that just spawned are a figment of my imagination right?

[tranquil badge]

I got lucky with four ragers rushing our ogryn and while they staggered the ragers they weren’t fast enough to kill them and i was able to pop them all and then an extra gunner

[gilded cave]

yeah cheers I've got the setup down but I took a break from doing Psyker penances after getting Monstronum done, Pick n Mix is the last one left to do, well that and the number of missions

[gilded cave]

😮

[tranquil badge]

Same i just have like eight missions left now to complete and they are all done

[celest oar]

i held off on doing penances since they mentioned they are looking to make them easier

why torture myself now when i could potentially torture myself lesser later

[gilded cave]

this is when they fix the bugged ones like dcing the veteran accuracy penance but don't actually make them easier to get 😛

[celest oar]

of course, we might end up with the ogryn situation where they made it worse instead

[celest oar]

they didnt fix it, just had ppl doing the DC exploit in my games today

[raven stirrup]

jesus christ... how in the world going out with a bang can be complited o_o

[celest oar]

they said they fixed it, dosent mean they fixed it 🤣

[gilded cave]

no I mean they might fix it with the next patch and just make everything harder 😛 I've given up trying to do the accuracy Vet penance it just feels like I am griefing my team

[shadow quail]

what base level item should i be aiming for

and for greens?

[gilded cave]

high 300s off the top of my head

[celest oar]

its easy with a premade, with an ogryn tanking and having 3 ragers hitting his shield

you can blow up on them then

[teal cargo]

Really?

[celest oar]

in a pub... well...

[celest oar]

https://sirusgaming.com/warhammer-40k-darktide-biggest-update-after-launch/

[teal cargo]

Psyker blowing yourself up for 3 elites is actually griefing 😆

[gilded cave]

not quite, the actual words they used were something like 'change the wording because they seem harder to complete than they are' they didn't actually promise to nerf penances

[shadow quail]

As for penances, it seems that they are going to be working on the wording of some of them to make them less confusing to players.

[gilded cave]

oh 100% but I specifically made a group for that with some other people

[celest oar]

well i am hoping its a nerf

[teal cargo]

Some of them are harder than its worded too

[shadow quail]

I don't think they are changing based on that statement

[celest oar]

one can hope

[teal cargo]

Like Zealot kill a mutie while charging

[raven stirrup]

the issue is that they are not dying while full hp and without hp bars it is hard to tell whether they can die if I hit them (with randoms - never know maybe someone already did damage)

[teal cargo]

sounds easy but man the detection is so jank

[gilded cave]

had 2 zealots earlier trying to cheese their just a scratch penance and that's 100% been fixed so you can't get fucked up and then just fail the mission, you have to complete it now, that fix and the ogryn charge change made those classes much harder to finish penances on now

[celest oar]

hit them with 1 heavy attack

or just blow up twice

if you are in a pre-made, you can afford to blow up twice

[teal cargo]

Wtf that Zealot penance seems incredibly hard now

[raven stirrup]

so its a group story only after all 🙂

okay, thanks

[teal cargo]

under 75% hp and under 20 mins completion on Heresy yikes

[celest oar]

i got mine while surrounded in a horde

was an accident

[gilded cave]

if people are still struggling with Going Out With A Bang the way I did it was to get a group of Psykers and 1 Ogryn and then go Rager farming, herd them all into a corner with your Ogryn with shield and then zap/shoot them a little and detonate

[raven stirrup]

congrats 🙂

[gilded cave]

it still took fucking ages but that was the easiest way to do it

[bleak sonnet]

got mine in one try on silo

[celest oar]

i still remember the exploit for that

[teal cargo]

Also do BB 90% damage is also impossible with randoms or solo

[gilded cave]

it is and you get so many zealots trying to do it in PUGs that they usually run off ahead and die

[celest oar]

my friend had a rather epic comment, i quote "we failed the misson, but everyone stands in fancy poses and the emperor decided to give you some clothes as a complimentary gift"

[teal cargo]

I guess thas why Zealots are just always rushing

[gilded cave]

yeah your best bet for Monstronum is to wait for Lights Out condition get yourself an Ogryn and solo a Daemonhost while 2 other people keep hordes/dogs/muties off you and the Ogryn

[teal cargo]

trying to dp in pugs sounds misery

[gilded cave]

50/50 in my heresy runs whether you get a zealot rushing off solo with a dagger or a vet with a pistol trying to cheese the accuracy run

legit had more luck just finding people on disc to do normal heresy runs with

[tardy flower]

You can have an Ogryn with shield pull a demonhost and tank it for you

Just let rest of grp know before its pulled

[celest oar]

to be fair, the only missons you can do that penance on are the investigation or the assassinate without the hacking

[split elm]

is the mk VIIa really this muchb better?

[gilded cave]

it's nearly guaranteed to get vets trying to cheese the assassination mission as that's the easiest to place to guarantee you can come back and land shots before the mission ends

[celest oar]

are you really a pysker? stare

[foggy whale]

which dueling sword Mk is best? 2 / 4 / 5?

[celest oar]

5

[gilded cave]

yup mk VIIa does decent damage mk VId does ~half

[bleak sonnet]

axe

[celest oar]

dueling sword has its uses, it has higher sprint speed and dodge than axe

[fair axle]

I'm a Gun Psyker.. I love to empty an entire clip into a Rager on Damnation.. We so GUD. Staff sucks!

[celest oar]

you can dodge faster than ppl can sprint

[bleak sonnet]

i kill rager in 3 shots O_O

what entire clip

[tardy flower]

Pretty sure my axe dodge is faster than sprinting too

[inland glen]

Reason why i would recommend the Accatran Mk VIIa is because is penetrates 3 small nurgle horde fellas, while the MK VId is like all the other Lasguns, with only 1 penetration.

[celest oar]

whats your mobility?

[tardy flower]

Not sure, I'm at work, but it's pretty high I'm guessing

[torpid frost]

What chat do i use for finding people helping with pennances? xd

[tardy flower]

I just know the dodge goes ridiculously far on my axe compared my staff

[split elm]

finally I own a force sword

[celest oar]

lfg and whichever is your region

[split elm]

not, like, a good one

[zinc narwhal]

Psyker is the worst class in the game.

• Worse at shooting than the Veteran
• Worse at melee than the Zealot
• I am not going to waste time comparing it to the Ogryn

But hey! At least I can blow a single head up from far away in ten times the time it would have taken the Veteran to shoot it and gently push over enemies in front of me. That's... yeah that doesn't make up for all it's many many many weaknesses.

Leman Russ was right. Psykers are trash and the Imperium is better off without them.

[torpid frost]

oki thanks!

[split elm]

first one I found after lvl 30

[vestal rose]

zip zap

[torpid frost]

but coolest armor tho!

[celest oar]

to be fair, we are only bad because fatshark decided to be stupid and nerf us to oblivion

If you played beta pysker... we were the best class

[bleak sonnet]

psyker isnt the worst class

[celest oar]

just force sword alone could CC everything with its push for 0 cost and a super wide area

[bleak sonnet]

stop cope

[teal cargo]

We have very good cc and tanking!

[fair axle]

3 shots my ass https://streamable.com/lf3wc5 there's your VIIa Lasgun on a Rager

[bleak sonnet]

i dont use a VIIa

lol

[zinc narwhal]

That doesn't make up for being bad in all other ways.

I'm sorry I came here just to be a whiny brat but I have a three mission losing streak as new Psyker and I was very much the reason we lost cuz I couldn't compare to the others.

[celest oar]

hello beautiful lolz

[bleak sonnet]

try a mk12

3 shots

lol

[zinc narwhal]

How do I play a Psyker "right"?

[teal cargo]

Take level 20 Kinetic Deflection

Be a tank and reviver

Use mk5 axe and spam push attacks yes yes

[night marten]

https://media.tenor.com/6RvyvMjx3XMAAAAd/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard.gif

[zinc narwhal]

Lets pretend I am only level three through failing upwards?

[teal cargo]

You can block hordes forever

[celest oar]

the irony that our best melee weapon is not our class one and has absolutely no synergy

[teal cargo]

Yea before level 20 life is pretty bad

Just use surge and stun things

[covert cosmos]

just do whatever makes you happy

[vestal rose]

don't have your hands out unless an elite your team can't easily deal with needs popping, that's probably a good rule to go by

[vagrant fractal]

low level just chill and learn how peril works

[night marten]

don't stop while you're ahead, just keep doing that

[teal cargo]

before lvl 20, play like malice or lower where BB actually can do pretty good as dmg

[split elm]

ok just tried the force sword

it sucks

[vagrant fractal]

that way once you get a staff you dont blow urself up a lot

[teal cargo]

FS has very awkward moveset

[split elm]

damage is mega garbage

bad mvoes

[teal cargo]

Mainly good for Deflection blessing

[split elm]

moveset

[zinc narwhal]

So based on my last three teams just don't take my hands out? 😅

[celest oar]

FS got slapped with so many nerfs it wasnt even funny

[bleak sonnet]

it still hits breakpoints with decent rolls for damnation, and the blessings/special makes it worth it

[covert cosmos]

i'd go to heresy once you're comfortable with malice.

[fair axle]

On damnation there are far too many specials and elites for a Vet or Zealot to deal with all of them in due time. You're seriously doing you team a disfavor by not using BB on the targets that can be one shot by it.

[echo parrot]

This is a callout post, you know who you all are.

[zinc narwhal]

I have only tried above level 2 three times and all times we wiped. Twice within 5 minutes.

[teal cargo]

Use BB when you need to clear out gunners or specials. You good at killing snipers and bombers

[zinc narwhal]

Maybe I could try it on my high level Vet but I don't wanna yet.

[teal cargo]

and malice under dogs

[vestal rose]

honestly, yeah
once you hit level 30 if you like headpopping, definitely take the feat that doubles the brain burst speed! Then you can make it super useful when it's needed. But the rest of the time, BB is just for elites while your teammates are distracted/can't reach. Or for locking on to an elite then dashing back into safety, if things are intense out there.

[heady sapphire]

-Shooting abilities are predominantly on the player not the class
-Melee capabilities are predominantly on the player not the class
-Ogryn doesn't compare to any of the other 3 classes

I think the issue is you are trash and your pc would be better off if you uninstalled the game as well as discord.

[vestal rose]

when you get some staves psyker becomes a lot more fun

[teal cargo]

Nah vets way better at shooting cos they get wallhacks and big damage steiroids

and extra ammo

Zealots are way better at melee damage because of ability and never getting stunned

[celest oar]

and the best melee weapon in the game
and the best range weapons synergy

[zinc narwhal]

Very mean and unwarranted but based on your username I guess in character.

I'll just respond gently by asking that you tell your mother she needs to take her underwear with her when she leaves in the morning

[fair axle]

Acknowledge that Deflector sword can be a wipe saver and mayby you wouldn't have to spew bullshit such as that.

[humble dawn]

if you use BB on diff 4+, you are a burden on your team.

[grave bobcat]

fINALLY

SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT

[teal cargo]

BB is useful on 4+

[echo parrot]

The many times I have stun locked 3-5 crushers + shieldy bois to let my team not get fucked over while also clutch resing in the middle of a horde would say otherwise. Maybe you just just play an easier class.

[vestal rose]

deflecting bullets is fun tho

[vagrant fractal]

what kind of changes do you think would make BB more fun and useful?

[grave bobcat]

back to testing but I just wanted to express joy

[teal cargo]

just situational

You hit bombers and snipers

[celest oar]

making rank 30 BB default BB

[teal cargo]

yea fr

[zinc narwhal]

Probably but I don't like not being able to play a character in a game.

[sleek fractal]

I have 6 hours to grind out my weeklies if i want to grab this from Sire Melk's. Worth?

[vagrant fractal]

agreed, its actually fun when it comes out fast

[teal cargo]

Also BB opens up Bulwakrs

[grave bobcat]

BB t4+ is only good for Sniper and Bombers. Otherwise there shouldn't be a time you really pull out your hands. (Include Bulwarks to the list if you're not using Surge)

[teal cargo]

and deals a sizable chunk to them

[humble dawn]

vet is supposed to kill snipers and it is faster to kill bombers with the staff attack while stun locking them

[fair axle]

Yes, you stun lock 3-5 crushers with a knife and magically deflect the bullets coming at you during a horde whilst ressing. I totally forgot how knife could do that..

[celest oar]

Also making BB damage consistent throughout all difficulties, by that i mean i shouldnt require 3 BBs to kill a mutie

[tropic halo]

charge rate's too low

[celest oar]

or 2 to even kill a burster

[echo parrot]

Not every person is going to enjoy the same things. expecting to be able to enjoy and be great at everything is unrealistic.

[vestal rose]

I wouldn't mind if BB was changed to a DoT that increases over time

[grave bobcat]

Use the 4 stack blaze trait

🥲

[teal cargo]

Sometimes sniper is too far when Vet is suppressed trying to kill gunner backs

[river sand]

Best way to make BB usefull is imo let it have charges. 2 charges deafult, instant cast without peril generation, and the 30 talent gives an extra charge, raise the damage by 50% and 1 charge is regained for every 50 peril generated

[uneven sparrow]

The emperor is a Psyker so you ultimately worship our kind

[vestal rose]

i want the blaze stacking to be good
i want it to be fun
fatshark pls

[teal cargo]

Plus sometimes your team just doesnt have a vet

[vagrant fractal]

I want there to be more ways to customize BB, (or grenades in general). Like make a feat that makes BB electrocute nearby enemies

[echo parrot]

The stun lock is from surge, and you dont need to turtle walk to deflect bullets if you know how to move/dodge/weave through cover.

[teal cargo]

so killing elites falls to you 💀

[echo parrot]

Closing distance is easy

[coral valve]

Blaze stacking is hella good, just not vs armor

[tropic halo]

if there's any bar that matters the most on a surge staff, it's the charge rate. it's more important to throw zaps out rather than much damage. that and good warp resistance. it's a decent staff nonetheless but i wouldn't get it unless your luck with the store has been that bad

[zinc narwhal]

Do you compare your puny self to the great emperor?! That's heresy!

[uneven sparrow]

I am now Draco Malfoy

[atomic walrus]

is there any way to know for sure if there is a boss on a map

[runic juniper]

canceling the animation gives you the bigger damage tick faster on the surge, as well as ignoring peril

[atomic walrus]

needed for psyker penance but never get any

[celest oar]

that corpse god?

[heady sapphire]

Secondary attack for bb shouldn't just be to charge it should be some variant that builds more peril but will either count as two charges on 4+ to a single target or disperse excess damage to surrounding enemies.

[vestal rose]

heresy spotted

[zinc narwhal]

Someone call the Inquisitor

[uneven sparrow]

It ain’t meeeee

[echo parrot]

How the fuck, bruh. I need to stop up my game

[celest oar]

we are the inquisition

[tropic halo]

i dunno, that still seems kinda slow and you kinda miss out on the whole CC part

[fair axle]

None of this is done while ressing during a horde. You ain't moving while ressing and you certainly aren't ressing during one with a knife - successfully unless the remainder of your team are carrying your behind.

So, meh less bullshit please.

[uneven sparrow]

Now get out there and bring me some chaos demons

[teal cargo]

Real issue with Psyker is that a lot of their feats are just useless

and its intended role just doesnt really work

[celest oar]

change that to blessings and i will agree with you

[coral valve]

I want Wrack and Ruin to be good

[tropic halo]

quicken's fucking useless

[celest oar]

i was so excited to see surge staffs with soulburn blessings, but nooooo pyskers cant get the good stuff

[sick cove]

just making BB do a %damage depending on target would make it useful on all difficulties

[vestal rose]

2 stacks
3 metres
like what

[celest oar]

it got removed post-beta

ffs

[heady sapphire]

But that guy in the youtube video said I should use quicken for damnation build

[coral valve]

2 stacks is nothing 😦

[teal cargo]

Idk for blessings cos I cant even evaluate them cos shitty mobile game shop mechanics

[echo parrot]

Somebody really loves their FS enough to get tilted lol. Look, I use a knife and have no issues. I could care less whether you think its bullshit or not.

[night marten]

and then kinetic overload

[vestal rose]

right
its so upsetting

[echo parrot]

Anyways

[uneven sparrow]

I’ll say this buddy

[echo parrot]

Gun staff best staff

[uneven sparrow]

Everyone has moms

Watch yourself

[tropic halo]

i just want new content already

[coral valve]

LAS STAFF

[celest oar]

this week is ogryn week

[vestal rose]

let me reload and fire my staff like a musket

[echo parrot]

Bolter staff when

[tropic halo]

ogryns deserve the love. ogryns are love, ogryns are life

[celest oar]

you mean like a machine gun?

[granite lance]

Hey I am having trouble with the pick n mix, mostly the wording. Killing 5 different type of enemies within 12 seconds

does the 12 seconds restart per elite/specialist kill?

[tropic halo]

👀

[coral valve]

from the moment of the first kill, the 12 seconds start

[uneven sparrow]

Love me brain love me giant potato guardians

[night marten]

within any 12 second window, five need to be killed with BB

[granite lance]

ahh ok

they have to be different types?

[night marten]

if you happen to kill like 8 or something, it could still work depending on the timing of the situation *as long as 5 were within 12 seconds of each other. no different types needed

[tropic halo]

'ate chaos, naw a heretic, jus dunt like 'em. simple as

[hushed swallow]

is this any good guys ? nice for killing big boys i suppose

[echo parrot]

Yes

[coral valve]

nah, they just mean different enemies, like you can kill 5 ragers and it still counts

[fair axle]

You can use whatever weapon you want, but to sit and spout outright lies about how you can keep 3-5 crushers stun locked, while ressing during a horde.. eh. Maybe not.

[granite lance]

Ahh thank you, I was worried I had to do it within a certain time when different spawns are in the horde

[vagrant fractal]

terrible, send it to me and ill recycle it

[echo parrot]

Unsure about blessings as I dont use the mk V axe, but the stats are pretty good and the axe cheese rotation makes things easymode.

[echo parrot]

Ok, anyways

[coral valve]

the issue is getting to kill them without someone sniping the glowing target lol

[granite lance]

so true

[hushed swallow]

thanks

[hushed swallow]

will do

[tranquil badge]

No the tracking is just bugged, it won’t update. I got it two days ago with four ragers and a gunner

[tropic halo]

but you can res during a horde pretty easily with peril block and crushers are pretty slow and the knife build is the fastest build

[night marten]

the funny part is, when private lobbies get introduced most of the penances are going to be way easier

[vestal rose]

the hardest part of the mk V axe + lightning staff combo is staying awake

[night marten]

excepting monstrum

[mild tartan]

ah, so we can expect FS to actually make it as annoying as it sounds when it updates

[coral valve]

what's the axe cheese?

[tranquil badge]

I am sorta expecting this, glad i got it done before the update

[celest oar]

block attack

[night marten]

spam block attack

[uneven sparrow]

The Inquisitor believes the Great Rift caused Cassia to become a Psyker and suspects that many more Ogryns will start to develop psychic abilities as well.

[tranquil badge]

Facts i came here to do dmg not hold stuff still for my team

[uneven sparrow]

Bruh

[celest oar]

ogryn pysker would be... interesting

[vestal rose]

replaced the axe with a chainsword
the game is better now

[mild tartan]

That's why i still prefer Void to lightning, the kills are so satisfying on it

[tropic halo]

rations from the warp everywhere

[coral valve]

I want awakened ogryn as a subclass

[tranquil badge]

Same I’m all about void staff, though my friend swears by the purg over surge

[heady sapphire]

Basically just a Weirdboy

[coral valve]

I love me flamey staff, warp charges for days

[celest oar]

equinox supremancy, nom anus can suck it

[mild tartan]

I still need to do the monstronum penance, just need someone who can tank daemonhost

[runic juniper]

surge all the way, cc too good and basically everything else can crowd clear

[fair axle]

But that's not exclusive to a knife, any weapon can do that, except gunfire will still break your toughness and then interrupt you from ressing.. That doesn't happen with a Deflector Force Blade.

[granite lance]

Purgertious staff good? I like it considering it had a bigger up time to a flamer on the zealot

[uneven sparrow]

finally a sanctioned warp use I can get behind

[heady sapphire]

My girl is becoming a bit of a void supremacist while I'm maintaining that the surge is the best because it allows me to role play Palpatine.

[coral valve]

I need that too, wanna do it?

[mild tartan]

sure bro

I have peril block running so I can do it for others pretty easily

[ornate hamlet]

Bringing people together 🥹

[heady sapphire]

How else am I supposed to justify screaming "UNLIMITED POWER" in the middle of a game if I'm not shooting lightning bolts everywhere?

[tranquil badge]

This is the only correct answer for surge staff users, if you turn your mics on and scream unlimited power it automatically increases its dmg by 200%

[coral valve]

I got all classes on 30, so I can slab tank it for ya

[fair axle]

Surge --> Great if your team is lacking CC.
Voidstrike --> Great if you are lacking sniping
Purgatus --> Great if you are lacking Horde control/Clear

[granite lance]

Thank you thats some good information right ther.

[ornate hamlet]

I love purgatus for horde control, is any staff as good at that for such a thing?

[night marten]

void is ok, if you're careful with positioning

[echo parrot]

Its not as good as a zealot flamer but gets the job done, but it also requires to to spec your perks around it to maximize its effectiveness

[granite lance]

like soul blaze talent?

[echo parrot]

Yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Void is the aoe one or?

[tropic halo]

i mean true, deflector and slab shield are the only projectile blockers out there. which sadly makes any force sword without deflector pretty much useless. to this day, have never seen one myself and i played for over 160 hours. very depressing.

[tranquil badge]

I swear by void on heresy and damnation once you figure out how to maximize your kill lanes

[night marten]

no that's trauma. void is bowling ball

[echo parrot]

Two staves I find the most effective personally are surge and void.

[ornate hamlet]

😮 I gotta try that out then

[echo parrot]

A good void user can clear a horde easy.

As well as snipe gunners and such

[mild tartan]

I'd like to see what a near max blast radius void looks like but probably not worth the dumps on other stats lol

[uneven sparrow]

That sucks, I can only advise mass buying green force swords

To chance the upgrade

[edgy kite]

What is considered to be the meta staff right now?

[mild tartan]

my current staff is 80% damage/80% radius and it feels pretty good

[tropic halo]

eh i love me dueling saber anyway, and ive gotten so tired of the rng shop and crafting system i actually stopped playing the game for now

[fair axle]

I was lucky I suppose and got 4 blades in a row on the store with it, currently just waiting for the blessing part so I can upgrade them to T2/T4 and attach that to my Force Blade with 20% block efficiency for maximum tankiness so I can waltz into gunfire rooms for my team on damnation and soak it all up.

[night marten]

it's probably better that way, odds are the first one you will see be trash anyway ( )

[tropic halo]

true

[coral valve]

I need a better Purgatus staff, been very unlucky with the shop

[echo parrot]

I have quite a few FSs with deflector, but I dont use them out of preference. They arent "useless" if they dont have deflector, as the charge attack on carapace can be a big hitter if other people are lacking.

[tranquil badge]

Anything but trauma works, i think you’re most likely to see surge right now but personally void fits my play style best

[edgy kite]

Thanks 🙂

[split elm]

I have an axe with the blessing that makes it ignore mass

[teal cargo]

Id rather use axe or rapier if no deflector on FS

[hallow needle]

daily store hates me

[coral valve]

The thing about Darktide is that you can make just about any weapon work, which is fun

[split elm]

it's by far the best weapon I have, even if it's only 330 or so

[echo parrot]

Admittedly my knife even with all of its carapace fuck you perks/blessings is not as effective as the most basic FS

[tropic halo]

i mean, yeah they're not useless but you definitely are missing out on a huuge benefit. especially since the higher difficulties can lay on the firepower a lot.

[kindred edge]

What play style works best with it? I'm getting bored of surge.

[hallow needle]

meanwhile if i ever were to use a gun...

[echo parrot]

It can def save your life during gunner spam, and my god does the director AI love its gunner spam at times..

[granite lance]

its a MG la, wouldn't bet on that one

[fair axle]

Voidstrike is probably the easiest to learn after Surge, all it requires is a wee bit of aiming it is also great fun seeing hordes fly all over the place..

[hallow needle]

i hate lasguns anyway

[mild tartan]

A well timed full charge void shot into a horde will stagger/knock down pretty much everything and wipe out a large portion of the mobs

[tropic halo]

yeah, i mean i can dodge out of the way a lot and slide often which i do, but i wanna feel like a T-1000 sometimes, but the game wont throw it my way, so im excluded from a certain playstyle. i guess that's one of my biggest gripes of the game

[granite lance]

skip out on that one anyhow

[uneven sparrow]

To give them credit lasguns are the only gun I didn’t get annoyed at iron sights on

[humble skiff]

which lvl 5 feat?

[coral valve]

Depends on playstyle

[tranquil badge]

With the voidstrike you become the artillery damage of your team, but you shoot rail guns. You want to play behind your ogryn or zealot teammates or purg staff psyker users and use them as a buffer to launch bowling balls into hordes or to use the bowling balls to snipe gunners that your team can’t easily reach. Additionally you can use the bowling balls to stagger most enemies, though the stagger isn’t as strong as other staff ccs, it can easily knock a horde or dog back from you or prevent gunners from ever shooting

[echo parrot]

@kindred edge Make sure you aim for the head with void. The projectile continues onward past if the headshot kills letting you clear hordes easy. It may seem like its worth it more to aim at the ground to AOE but it is a trap, its mostly just stagger.

[granite lance]

if you ever had to use a Lasgun that can save your life, USE a Kantael Mk 12 lasgun

[fair axle]

I primarily go Voidstrike if I want to help the Vet and removing trash mobs around Elites and specials so they have clear shots.. I find it.. Less attractive than Purgatus tho

[mild tartan]

also this, and there's a blessing that removes peril for every weakspot/headshot hit you get

[teal cargo]

Voids prerty versatile

[teal needle]

For level 5 the 10% toughness on warp kill most of the time, but if you're literally rank 5 probably take another one because you ain't getting many warp kills without a staff

[kindred edge]

Thanks for the tips, @echo parrot @fair axle @tranquil badge !

[echo parrot]

Voids like a swiss army knife lets be honest

[teal cargo]

I use Quietude

[echo parrot]

Its great

[tranquil badge]

Have fun purging sibling

[teal cargo]

Surge generates a lotta peril

so lotsa toughness

[coral valve]

I use Essence Harvest because I mainly set everything on fire which gives me tons of warp charges. Quietude gives you toughness replenishment on demand, especially on bosses and the 10% toughness on warp kill is just, good

[teal needle]

Quietude is very good on surge

[grave bobcat]

I'd recommend swapping that trait to the middle one in tier 1 column if you're using Surge

[teal cargo]

The warp kills one?

[grave bobcat]

Mhm

[teal cargo]

seems pretty sketch since you arent killing a lot with it

But maybe

[humble skiff]

isnt the 30% over 5 seconds better

thats like 6% a second

[grave bobcat]

You're accidentally killing like 1-2 random mobs wehn it just arcs off

[humble skiff]

quite a lot

[grave bobcat]

into the distance lol

And the only damage you're prob taking is from gunners

So you can maintain your toughness while kikllingthem

killing them*

[echo parrot]

Thats RNG though if relying on the passive charges, otherwise you are forced to throw up hands and very slowly get a kill to recharge.

[humble skiff]

wdym

[grave bobcat]

But its upto you

[tropic halo]

or those weak zombies that are magnetically attracted to your ass

[teal needle]

The 30% over 5 seconds is when you kill an elite, in high difficulties it's literally the thing you are worst at lol

[humble skiff]

its not slow

im almost always getting a kill anyway

[ornate hamlet]

its not elites, its any enemy

[echo parrot]

BB is pretty slow

[teal needle]

That's a good talent for difficulty 1 thu 3 though

[coral valve]

No, it's on warp charge gain

[grave bobcat]

We're worst at killign elites? Damn

DIdn't know that

[teal cargo]

30% on warp charge gain

not elites or anything

Might be good for purg

[fair axle]

That would be the Vet version, 25% on Elite kill, 25% over 5s

[coral valve]

Which is why it's really good with a fire build

[grave bobcat]

/s cause I'm english and sarcasm is often missed

[coral valve]

It's very good for purg

I basically have it up all the time

[echo parrot]

Go back to your fish and french fries that you mistake for chips.

[vestal rose]

there are people out there not running psychic communion?

[teal needle]

Right, woops. Forgot because that talent is completely forgettable on heresy

[grave bobcat]

If I shall inform you young lady. I am currently sat on my high horse WHILE consuming said fish and chips!

[fair axle]

You don't need Psychic Communion with Purgatus staff, better to get the 15% from non-warp damage.

[echo parrot]

Chomps hamburger

[grave bobcat]

Also..

Nvm

[vestal rose]

I always ran kinetic barrage with purg staff
ascending blaze feels less consistent than psychic communion

[uneven sparrow]

Gone sexual

[tardy flower]

Quietude is pretty nuts with the peril generation on purge/surge

[teal cargo]

I like Quietuxe cos you get a lotta toufhness passive quellih

[uneven sparrow]

I’m watching h3h3

[teal cargo]

like build high peril pull out your axe

[vestal rose]

is the 15% from non-warp damage ever particularly useful?

[ornate hamlet]

meh

[vestal rose]

I've never run it, so I don't know

[night marten]

if you were primarily killing with direct damage of purg, you would be getting very few charges from AB. only kills from purg's dot will activate AB's 10% charge chance

[tardy flower]

Considering that bb is the trigger, no

Helps with monstrosities if anything

[teal cargo]

ive heard a buncha diff things for thos

[fair axle]

A Purge Staff doesn't need the 4% chance, because you're going to get so many Warp Stacks from your 10% chance on soulblaze effect kills. You may as well just help the team and yourself do 15% extra damage on a BB pop.

• This helps on Monstrocities, on Ogryn's and anything else that last for a while.

[vestal rose]

it should be longer than 5 seconds, I reckon

[uneven sparrow]

I finish my interaction with the green man, and realise I am bleeding from the gut

The green man: hehe sory

[night marten]

they're right in that purg+AB has some synergy with psykinetic's aura if you dont' want to take psychic communion

[vestal rose]

purg definitely kills from direct damage far more than soulblaze, yeah

[teal cargo]

the 15% extra at high peril dkwsnt even work for BB

[fair axle]

Purgatus Direct damage is like.. 45 something, what kills is the DoT that ramps up to 350+ fairly quick..

[teal needle]

The toughness on warp charge is usually just mathematically the worst, though. Once you're in even difficulty 3 you won't be spamming bb enough to justify it, and even if you bring passive warp charge generation it's too sporadic and unreliable

[tardy flower]

It's pretty much always up on a monster while you're spamming bb, the veteran will shred the target

[vestal rose]

the direct damage stacks up as you burn then more!
(unless I'm dumb and somehow misreading damage ticks in the meat grinder)

[tardy flower]

Dif passives

[night marten]

it melts most things except crushers and bulwarks *and mutants relatively quickly, reapers are a little slower

[teal needle]

If you're running void strike 100% bring toughness on void kill, surge is usually best with toughness on quell

[teal cargo]

Either way Purg with Blaze gives a lotta warp charges

in my runs anyways

[uneven sparrow]

I believe psychic communion is the feat that makes it work

[fair axle]

I mean, no? The two feats that increase damage specifically says it does not increase any Brain Burst damage, but 15% when you do a BB (and the 10% chance to do so counts for this too) does give your entire team and yourself 15% damage on a boss - which helps :).

[uneven sparrow]

For just coherent horde clearers

[deft glen]

Warp Absorbtion
Replenish 10% Toughness when you kill an enemy with a Warp attack.

does this work on staves ?

[fair axle]

No

Warp Attacks are: Brain Burst

[deft glen]

Sadge

[fair axle]

Maybe the Blessing for Soulblaze? Though the Purgatus staff is considered a Soulblaze effect, but gets the 15% damage from Force attacks so.. Eh could go both ways

[teal cargo]

Oh wjat perk is that one?

[uneven sparrow]

You’re right tho I prefer the one that lets me push more often

[teal cargo]

It should

Otherwise like why are Void users taking that perk?

Warp attacks are BB, staffs and force sword

actually idk bout Fs

[fair axle]

Gimme a sec, I need to update store chance spreadsheet 🙂

[gritty bloom]

What's the exact requirement to penance Not Even Close? I've killed countless of pouncing pox hounds using bb, does it need to be mid air just before landing? Starting to think it's bugged.

[fair axle]

Psykinetic Wrath adds a base 5% damage to all force attacks (force blade & staffs are all counted as force attacks).
Cerebral Laceration adds 15% to all attacks after a BB (excluding BBs) - including the one from Kinetic Flayer

[teal needle]

Yes. If you're running voidstrike this is 100% the correct choice.

Or trauma but don't run trauma

[velvet spear]

hrm just got run 'n gun on my otherwise fantastic surge staff, anyone else encounter thsi blessing?

[night marten]

right as they're pouncing on someone

[fair axle]

If you have both those feats on a Purgatus staff it will easily do some 400+ damage/s to a boss/monstrocity/Ogryn which is why when I run Purgatus staff I tend to just burn Reapers with it and/or get behind a Bulwark and burn it.. Much faster than BBing.

Normal Elites and Mobs don't even live long enough for it to reach max stacks..

That's why you see a lot of Psykers swearing their life on Purgatus staffs.. It is frightningly effective if you correct your feats for maximum BUUUURN

[olive ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCgvDFx34fU

Saw this on launcher

this guy runs KO with a surge staff

[night marten]

kinetic overload

[olive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-not-like-this-gif-20778053

[olive ember]

yes, only used on voidstrike or trauma
surge runs quietude, purge runs essence drain

[paper trail]

https://tenor.com/view/maurice-moss-fire-extinguisher-it-crowd-richard-ayoade-fire-gif-9360487

[summer prairie]

toughness on kill can be a bit weak when clutching

[olive ember]

well yes but a clutch build involves surge staff anyways

[ornate hamlet]

lets go another one!

i love psyker weapons

[olive ember]

439 rip

[summer prairie]

1 staff variant each but we have like 9 autogun variants

[ornate hamlet]

and the game loves to give us guns

[olive ember]

Also never run the perk which increases damage for force

such a waste of a perk

[frigid marten]

The only thing i don’t like is the F that dump warp charge. If they change that i will enjoi it a lot more

[ornate hamlet]

man i also love how often this game just bricks at load screens

literally faster to alt-f4 restart

[vestal rose]

I have like 4 370+ base stat accatran lasguns
only one staff 360+
i want to cry

(and a bunch more really well-rolled lasguns but accatran pew pew)

[olive ember]

thats not psykinetics Wrath

well

both the lvl 10 feat and the F ability on Psyker is called "Psykinetic's Wrath"

[paper trail]

I have multiple 380's but they are all useless to me its frustrating

and cant get a decent roll on the stuff I do want lol

[olive ember]

similarly the lvl 20 trait is called kinetic deflection while the force sword trait is called deflector

10/10 naming

not confusing at all

[long wharf]

there are two penances for the psyker - one is Mind Over Matter, the other is Mind over Matter

[frigid marten]

Some penance have the same name with different capital letters

[long wharf]

FS definitely doesn't do any QA

[olive ember]

Mind over Matter moment

[velvet spear]

run 'n gun blessing on a surge staff? I...don't hate it?

[long wharf]

there are far better options

[ebon jolt]

I feel you. I have 1 380 and it’s an auto gun with 63% damage.

[olive ember]

its not useful

you can only sprint with left click and its lke

whats the point

[velvet spear]

def one i'll swap out in the future

[vestal rose]

it's fun
it's not very helpful, but it feels fun

[velvet spear]

^

it's on an otherwise great staff so im with it for a while i guess

[long wharf]

it's such a shame that the game feels half-baked, outside of the combat and visuals

[muted wyvern]

Doing Pick n’ Mix and getting 4/5 and the Vet/zealots bum rush the last dude you need mid-BB.

Such fun

3 times in a single mission, cuz fuck you.

[long wharf]

... I say as I load up the game to check on the shops

[velvet spear]

finally got the explosion penance last night, looking at those heresy penances now... >_>

[vestal rose]

don't penance without a team of 4, or at least three cooperative random players
its not worth it

[fair axle]

Ain't a problem generally for Purgatus as you kill so much so fast that you generally get the 4 Warp Charges back after using the F with Ascendant's Blaze.

11/10 I would get the Kinetic Barrage for any other staff.

[olive ember]

Purge build basically only build that uses AB

[lethal plover]

Penances aren't worth it. Fixed that for you

[long wharf]

FS really should remove clearing warp charges for the soulblaze lvl 30 feat

[olive ember]

but mah drip

[velvet spear]

^

[echo parrot]

Drip is endgame

[night marten]

I haven't tried it, but I bet psykinetic's ~~wrath ~~ aura could be useful too with a purge AB build

you do a fair amount of frontline elite killing with a good purge setup

[long wharf]

I'm buying everything in the shop that has blessings I'll want to transfer in the future

[olive ember]

the + damage is trash

[night marten]

helps the whole team, and spamming that ult more quickly is more damage

[muted wyvern]

Are penances considered “Endgame” because they make me want to End myself while playing this game? Is that what it means?

[olive ember]

+damage only affects the actual purge staff damage but not the dot

so bringing psykinetics wrath is literally a waste of time that gives maybe +2 damage a tick

[night marten]

oh whoops

meant psykinetic's aura

the damn names are too similar

*instead of communion

[olive ember]

XD 10/10 naming as I said

but yeah aura could be useful

CL is only good against bosses which makes it meh

[night marten]

even then lol

it's marginally useful, and only less so the more badass your team gets

[olive ember]

but yeah I haven't used purge enough but

if you can generate charges frequently enough you could prob swap communion for aura

[night marten]

yea, but then I think you kind of need to run quietitude

[long wharf]

I would think that you would want to fully lean into warp charges stacking soulblaze on enemies for you

[night marten]

not sure charge generation would be consistent enough for decent toughness gain

[olive ember]

Warp Battery VS KO is another thing on purge where its hard to tell tbh

[night marten]

I think warp battery wins literally every time

[olive ember]

cuz like stacking a bunch of soul blaze on elites sound nice, but you need 6 charges for decent room clear on your F

imo

[vestal rose]

i def battery with purg

[night marten]

KO only dropping stacks on a single enemy is not great, especially since you're constantly clearing stacks with AB

if you were running barrage I could see a case maybe for KO, even then though

[vestal finch]

Ascendant Blaze is for people who really enjoy getting gunned down at a distance

[night marten]

just gotta pair it with my deflector crutch, ez baby

[long wharf]

FS really needs to make the purge attacks count as soulblaze damage

[vestal finch]

And spend a minute passively quelling your peril

[olive ember]

the voidstrike lover is back

[night marten]

just F

[vestal finch]

By my incomparable mind!

[night marten]

yea I think it needs this bump for sure

if nothing else

[long wharf]

that would be a huge change and make purge much more viable in my eyes

[vestal finch]

mfw the only heresy mission is low intensity

[olive ember]

ngl I saw FS and my brain went "Force Sword"

[long wharf]

should we all just say Obese Fish to avoid future confusion?

[night marten]

same, but I got there eventually lol

[olive ember]

just run for free rewards, cuz low intensity counts as a "modifier" and gives better shit than base

[night marten]

also work towards that sweet green portrait

[vestal finch]

I'm wearing larper clothing

camo on my psyker

[long wharf]

but whose clothing?

[velvet spear]

feels where i wanna be except for that run n' gun -_-

[ornate hamlet]

Check it out, an actual 510 staff. And those numbers ain't bugged, I added them up.

[velvet spear]

whew

[analog juniper]

meme

[olive ember]

out of curiosity how you get 380

[ornate hamlet]

Points out the flaw because jealousy

[ornate hamlet]

I wear highest level gear

[analog juniper]

no, no, dope staff but that blessing is a real meme

[olive ember]

ngl for a second I thought that was on his surge staff and was wondering how useful it is on surge

[long wharf]

the purge staff needs to be able to get Blazing Spirit

[ornate hamlet]

I dont know why it doesn't.

That doesn't make sense.

[olive ember]

How often does purge crit anyways

[ornate hamlet]

idk

[night marten]

it's a damn shame it doesn't show up on purge staff

[ornate hamlet]

I have a purge crit stick

[night marten]

pretty often

[woven crow]

What melee weapon are you using. I'm liking the duelling sword. With the palpatine staff it's quick enough to get a hit in after a stun

[olive ember]

Dueling sword, antax axe, FS are the big three on psyker

Don’t be the guy who made the launcher psyker damnation guide who brought a claw sword

[woven crow]

Can't do clawsword, it feels like someone forgot to charge a powersword

[velvet spear]

this is what i pair with surge staff currently

[crisp yacht]

Have a 380 stats claw sword. Feels badman

[idle shuttle]

claw sword.. more like cLAWL sword

[ornate hamlet]

These are my current weapons. I really like the purgatus for its suppression and insane crit with the perk and blessing

[night marten]

[ornate hamlet]

jealous... so jealous.

[deft glen]

sadge

[night marten]

would trade for that purge staff, great stats and blessings

[tight saddle]

damn want

[deft glen]

yeah trauma makes it a sadge

[tight saddle]

trauma is dope

[ornate hamlet]

I'd take that trade, because the trauma force does MASSIVE CC

and big D damage

[night marten]

little too situation for my taste. found this the other day too

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine throwing a crusher onto his back with a staff. Cuz that's what trauma force does.

[night marten]

along with a couple perfect dueling swords, I have most things except a perfect purge staff

[opaque temple]

it'll even make beasts spit your teammates out instantly

[idle shuttle]

brutal antax?

[ornate hamlet]

It could've been great, but then... toughness. Dont want chip dmg.

[idle shuttle]

thats not good

[ornate hamlet]

Toughness ruined it

[red basin]

i feel like id rather just have max health and use peril block instead of stamina

[next compass]

how do you guys deal with multiple carapace armored enemies? I find the force sword is great against 1 but when theres multiple enemies it usually isn't practical but the surge staff seems to do great against them

[manic crane]

damn those penances, how the heck am i suppose to maintain my max charges for whole 5 mins

[idle shuttle]

you want health, wound , tough