psyker-class

[patent hatch]

damnation surge is kinda needed. Underneath that you can run what ever tho

[plucky token]

Lightning + Metal Armor im guessing

[patent hatch]

[olive ember]

With purge you gotta commit to one direction to cc, with surge I can disco ball cc elites from all 4 directions

[vagrant cedar]

you can rotate your camera with purge

what

and you should never have 4 directions to cover

ever

[olive ember]

It doesn’t CC unless you commit

[patent hatch]

^^

[orchid nest]

shove and dodge method should be something everyone knows and is capable of but it should also be the last resort if a surge user is in your group especially since your push might fail if you are low stam

[kindred delta]

surge go brr

[olive ember]

And you say that but random pubs happen

[kindred delta]

surge is amazing for CC

[vagrant cedar]

then you need to be better at your positioning

not run in the open

[olive ember]

And I’ve had to cc 3 dogs a mutant and a burster coming from like 3 directions to keep ‘em off my teammates

[half iron]

“shove and dodge” mfs when the veteran shoots the poxburster

[river crest]

much more vulnerable to lag, too

[olive ember]

^^ not even just the vet

[vestal finch]

Sucks to suck, still not using surge

[orchid nest]

also risking a team mate not shooting it when you go to shove it

[olive ember]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[drowsy fog]

have you tried asking the mutants nicely to calm down

[olive ember]

Idrc if you use the surge or not

[scenic siren]

I literally only find trauma and void. I wish I could find the other staffs to test them out.

[olive ember]

I’m just saying the benefits of surge over a purge

[river crest]

use what you want! Both have their roles

[clear heath]

For me the selling point is just bulwarks

shields are annoying

[river crest]

(disclaimer: use what you want doesn't include trauma)

[olive ember]

Shields are annoying but even if I open em up jank AF hit boxes make em still annoying to hit

[half iron]

use trauma in spite of your siblings

[spiral remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/imperial-guard-cat-warhammer40k-gif-23254825

[olive ember]

Gun Psyker?

[vestal finch]

I WILL soloqueue for Damnation with a bad Trauma staff and you WILL cope.

[vagrant cedar]

with purge you can clean everything around the shield and then just melee it

[river crest]

gun psyker better than trauma

[vagrant cedar]

idk, i tried them all, purge looks like the best all rounder

[olive ember]

All rounder maybe but you don’t bring psyker to be an all rounder

That’s vets job

[vagrant cedar]

i haven't seen that many decent vets

[vestal finch]

Yeah bro but but... the slow ass attack the bulwark does might hit your teammates!! omg!

[vagrant cedar]

yeah but that's their issue, skill issue

aint my problem

[vestal finch]

Exactly

[vagrant cedar]

you aint supposed to be the saviour of the whole team

[patent hatch]

I mean for me
Void strike is pure damage
Purge is half and half
Surge is CC
Trauma is shit

[olive ember]

Anyone know why the guy is aggro af for no reason?

Lmao

[vagrant cedar]

no one is aggro

sorry snowflake

i'll stop

[olive ember]

Lmao

[clear heath]

Yeah but surge basically lets you be one, at the cost of slower kill times

[vestal finch]

Your fault for aggroing the daemonhost

[olive ember]

Wasn’t even talking about you but

Sure wte you say

[half iron]

my beloved says he would be just as aggro if he was stuck in a hive city for that long

[vagrant cedar]

that shit appears in most random corners

[vestal finch]

5 chained enemies really does not feel like a lot in a horde of 30

[half iron]

if you hear non-warp whispers, it’s probably a daemonhost

[patent hatch]

I mean I like the surge simply because I can stun then swing in with a axe hit without being suppressed

[soft prism]

If the zealot is holding the frontline the only 5 of those enemies you will need to hit is the big bois

[clear heath]

It's spammable, and it's not like all 30 enemies are attacking at the same time

[vestal finch]

One of the voices whispers something about decay

[olive ember]

Are hordes even that big of a deal

[vagrant cedar]

i remember when people said it's the scriptures whispering 😂

[patent hatch]

Hordes are fine, only a issue when combined with elites and specials

[half iron]

“i’m not wicked, i’m not!” moment

[tidal violet]

WELCOME BACK TO EVERYONE'S FAVORITE GAMESHOW
HOST
PSYKER
HERETIC
OR BOOK!

[plucky token]

My favorite whisper is "Oh! Hello, little one :)" Papa Nurgle is so friendly.

[vestal finch]

So what's the daemonhost whispering supposed to be, anyway? Host trying to fight back?

[patent hatch]

idfk

[olive ember]

How ya know it’s even nurgle talking to ya

[tidal violet]

Half the team gets deleted by a Daemonhost.
"Whoops! Better luck next time!"

[tidal violet]

Yes. Lots of prayers to the emperor and such.

[half iron]

if only someone knew how to crown the daemonhost

[patent hatch]

With a daemonhost unless it’s a shield ogryn or a axe Psyker tanking it they are going to die

[olive ember]

Doesn’t even need to be axe, you can do it just fine with FS tbh

[floral palm]

Any melee + blocking goes to peril instead of Stamina feat means Psyker can tank multiple Demonhosts ezpz

[plucky token]

The Daemonhost is a Psyker reject that failed their mission and got possessed

[vagrant cedar]

the most funny times is when you trynna tank the daemon, you notice your team does nothing to kill it while you flank it for a minute or so, so you say ahh fuck it, you die, and then you watch the team start attacking it and doing dmg and then you just pondering like what's the point

love the teammates

[ebon jolt]

I recently saw a dagger zealot run around in a circle for 20 seconds while kiting the deamonhost without dying.

[half iron]

they were not able to contain the silliness. my beloved doesn’t like that.

[river crest]

had a zealot tank it long enough and do enough damage with thunder hammer that we were able to delete it the other day with no deaths on a heresy. I was surprised

no downs either

[patent hatch]

zealot is hella tanky to tbh

[olive ember]

Their combos are in a straight line like a rager so yeah you can circle kite it semi effectively

Assuming they don’t hit box jank your ass

[old quiver]

Which axe best for Psyker?

[olive ember]

Antax V

[long wharf]

MkV combat axe

[vestal finch]

Chainsword

[plucky token]

The shiniest choppa

[vagrant cedar]

one with finese or cleave

[runic gate]

This one

[vagrant cedar]

how much for it

[plucky token]

humble brag

[olive ember]

This guy rly brings chainsword on psyker?

[old quiver]

Damn

[runic gate]

10 rupees

[olive ember]

Rip brutal momentum

[vestal finch]

No, lol

[vagrant cedar]

I'll take three

[long wharf]

I need to get All or Nothing off my axe

[plucky token]

Oh boy here we go. Everyone whip out your axes and lets compare them

[runic gate]

Nice axe sibling

[vagrant cedar]

+8% poxwalkers dmg

why even have that on a melee

[long wharf]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rigid widget]

What exactly is power in this case? Isn't power something for veteran?

[vagrant cedar]

power = dmg

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1049983341258080296/image.png

[patent hatch]

Decimator is bae

[plucky token]

Rating is just all of your stats added together. So a Higher rating doesnt mean a better weapon. Read the stats.

[olive ember]

I don’t really use axes but that’s the best one I’ve gotten

[vagrant cedar]

Limbsplitter the most shit perk an axe can have

[river crest]

nice

[patent hatch]

Decimator and Head taker is my current axe very spicy

[vagrant cedar]

such a dumb perk

[river crest]

yeah, I want to swap it

[low onyx]

any chads in here wanna play damnation^endless hordes with an ogryn quickplay rn

[orchid nest]

it's actually the other way around if you are using the push attack spam. limbsplitter is the best for that and decimator doesn't even stack with it

[low onyx]

steam version

[river crest]

oh good point

[olive ember]

That’s only if you spam push attack which is a psyker exclusive though

[patent hatch]

Only in that specific situation is it good

[vagrant cedar]

that's such a situational space to utilize it, where everywhere else it will be shit

[untold surge]

the revolver is just so much fun

[rigid widget]

I see, so is Power 1 to 1 in scale for damage? As in, +5% power means +5% damage.

[olive ember]

My zealot fucking despises limbsplitter

[vagrant cedar]

yes, more or less

test it in grinder

[orchid nest]

Yeah I mean it's worth mentioning though because a lot of people use it that way

[rigid widget]

Thanks

[vagrant cedar]

I wish when you craft you'd have an option to choose from 2-3 possible perks

that would be amazing

[long wharf]

yeah, that'd be nice

[plucky token]

That'll never happen. The more you have to grind the more you'll play. Tencent 101

[vagrant cedar]

ofc

prolongs the game longetivity

that's why they haven't released crafting or red items yet

and who knows what else

early access game

[patent hatch]

I don’t want them to add red items tbh

[vagrant cedar]

why not

stats capped at 80% just look dumb

[patent hatch]

keeps RNG in the game

[plucky token]

I like how people are defending the game being barebones by saying "BACK IN MY DAY PLAIYNG LEFT 4 DEAD WE DIDINT NEED ITEM PROGRESSION"

[restive slate]

Add corrupted items, like in Chaos Rising

[patent hatch]

feels better getting a perfect legendary item

Rather than a red which is always perfect

[ebon jolt]

Do you think they’re going to lock re-bless to a single slot like refine item?

[vagrant cedar]

i mean, they could make it very hard to gain red items

like damn 5 + no light + extra waves

[plucky token]

I love the No Light condition. It just makes me feel this game NEED a Genestealer Cult DLC.

[bleak tulip]

lol

I didnt even know it rolled to 21

[long wharf]

nice, me neither

[vagrant cedar]

25 max i think

no?

[bleak tulip]

according to the builder yeah

I just havent seen anything higher than 20 in like 90 hours of playing psyker

[river crest]

I've seen a few 21s, but nothing higher

[vagrant cedar]

that builder thing pissed me off cause i saw how many shit you can get on them

so much RNG to have a decent/best one

😩

[burnt python]

21 is highest ive seen in game, have a few of em

17 h ighest toughness

[gilded viper]

I mean I certainly don’t have optimized gear but I can still clear damnation. So I hope nobody is super worried about min maxing.
Btw I finished all my class penances. Hype!

[long wharf]

congrats, best looking cosmetics in the game, IMO

[gilded viper]

Gotta love the space wizard who wears actual armor. Is nice.

[long wharf]

yep, love being a space wizard

[patent hatch]

Same

I don’t like the goggles tbh

[long wharf]

I'm slogging through leveling my Veteran to 30

[nocturne palm]

damn wtf how many hours do u have on psyker?

[long wharf]

have to say I'm really not having fun as a Vet, I don't care for the gunplay at all

[patent hatch]

I’ve got like 65 I’ve got all penances done to

Really isn’t to hard if u focus on them

[long wharf]

I have 193hrs in Darktide so far, according to Steam

2/3 of that is on Psyker, easily

[formal osprey]

100%

[orchid nest]

space hulk chaos wastes equivalent

[echo parrot]

around 140 for me

Prob more tbh

[olive ember]

which gun you using

also vet gets alot more fun (imo) once you unlock counterfire at lvl 30 but before then its kinda just point and click simulator

[long wharf]

I swap between the torrent recon lasgun and the MG 12 lasgun

[magic hull]

drip

[red basin]

what are the penances past the first set? are there ones that are just as annoying as the monstrum one?

[echo parrot]

Nice Zealot cosplay

[long wharf]

if you're suggesting that your psyker looks like a walking STD, then I agree

[red basin]

mine also has that prometheus type head ass

[magic hull]

bro EVERYONE in 40k is a walking STD lmao

[olive ember]

monstrum is now the easiest one to get of the ones left

[red basin]

mans is starting to hear nurgle out

[olive ember]

the penances past the first set are all the other penances

so blow yourself up, get 5 BB elite kills in 12 seconds, etc. etc.

[orchid nest]

look like mannfred von carstein

[echo parrot]

This is how Nurgle corruption starts

[river crest]

I'd honestly say Going Out with a Bang and Pick n Mix are worse than Malleus

especially after daemonhost got added

[magic hull]

🤫

[long wharf]

Pick n Mix is definitely the worst penance in the game

[red basin]

im confused i thought it like rolled a new set after you finished them all

[echo parrot]

Get out of here Nurglite, this is a house of Slaanesh.

[olive ember]

you get one hood for finishing all the basic and easy penances, then you get a t2 hood for finish the two malice penances, and then you get the t3 hood for finish the two heresy penances

[red basin]

(all i know is i cant see the higher tier cosmetics so what happens to the ones that arent just higher tiered versions of the same penance? are there not new ones?)

[echo parrot]

I seriously had to cap that

[frail spire]

Will my surge staff lightning bounce to a non-aggroed damenhost?

[olive ember]

nope no new ones

[red basin]

oh okay i thought it was full new sets not just new hoods

[olive ember]

nah

currently the penances you see are the ones you gotta complete

and doing all of them will give you 3 sets of armors basically

[echo parrot]

Yes

[red basin]

that makes sense though because there are already 3 sets of chests and legs

[river crest]

those are the requirements after the first

[echo parrot]

It happened to me on accident on Damnation, dont be a dumb rabbit, be a smart whatever you are

[red basin]

gotcha that makes sense thank u

ive heard of people getting pick n mix by accident by just having a good match but that wont happen with monstrum so i consider it worse

[orchid nest]

did they fix pick n mix being bugged and doable on malice with the last hotfix?

[olive ember]

The three achievement sets for psyker

[old quiver]

Pick n mix isn't too bad

[river crest]

what difficulties can pick n mix be done on?

[red basin]

damn legs 2 and 3 look identical

[echo parrot]

Malice and up

[olive ember]

Supposed to be heresy and above but I've heard its glitched and can be done on malice

[river crest]

it includes malice? Interesting

[long wharf]

I did it on malice

[olive ember]

I find it easier on heresy tbh because the gunner packs are more frequent

[red basin]

oh if malice is included thats not as bad since u can still one pop most specials

[old quiver]

Yes

[orchid nest]

I 100% did it on malice on the 6th after reading several reports in here of it being possible but I can't tell you if they fixed it in the hotfix on the next day

[red basin]

honestly wouldnt put it past them to change some penances within the next couple weeks so i may just ignore them for now

[olive ember]

I did it on heresy and basically just had to run into a gunner pack and kill them all to get it

[river crest]

mine doesn't have any progress so I don't know if it's bugged or if it only progresses if you actually complete it

[old quiver]

Beginning of most mission have a section with a tron of elites, two pops into ult with 30 trait into 3 more pops, done

[olive ember]

it only progresses after you complete it tbh

[red basin]

yeah ive seen 4 shotgunners in the same corner many a time

[river crest]

ok

[old quiver]

Yeha it used to progress, not anymore

[red basin]

the progression thing bugged me about the push penance where you push 7 enemies off a ledge

i went from 2/7 to 3/7 to 5/7 and didnt realize i had to push 7 at once, i thought it just meant 7 overall and i was getting so pissed pushing so many enemies off the side and never seeing it update

[river crest]

it used to be 20 😄

[old quiver]

I did it at 20, such a pain in the ass

[red basin]

i have a hard time getting 7 pushed off i feel like it doesnt push things back as much as it just knocks them down

[jovial frigate]

been like this since official launch because i've never gotten around to doing a penance group and my pub lobbies are filled with adhd riddled vets that only shoot specials

[red basin]

hey at least theyre doing their jobs

[olive ember]

7 enemies? bruh thats so easy now

I remember it was 20 when I did it

[long wharf]

yeah, I did it during the pre-order beta when it was 20

[jovial frigate]

wait its 7 now?

[red basin]

ive pushed so many and apparently never gotten 7 at once, i feel like they have to be against the fucking ledge already

[jovial frigate]

holy fuck yall got it easy

[red basin]

yes its 7

[olive ember]

the steam achieve still says 20 breh

[plucky token]

Smokes weed once.

[red basin]

weird

[red basin]

man i have such a hard time getting them to fucking go anywhere idk what im doing wrong

[long wharf]

Chasm Logistratum

[red basin]

i push and they all fall down in place

[olive ember]

honestly after wearing the penance armor for so long I forget how skinny psykers are

[long wharf]

thin walkway next to the bridge near the opening area

[river crest]

a good mission to do it 'properly' is the hacking one with the generators where you have to defend the center room with two thin bridges leading to it

[red basin]

i was trying on the one mission where you do the 3 servo skulls and then the last one in the middle of the vertical chamber with the walkways, if that makes sense, you run straight to extract after

[river crest]

as long as your party doesn't kill them too fast

[red basin]

i dont know the map names yet

[olive ember]

Someone mentioned that the push distance may be tied with peril but Idk if thats true or not

no one ever tested it iirc

[drowsy fog]

that the espionage and yeah thats exactly where I got it

step onto the bridge itself if F fails melee push will work

[red basin]

i had someone else in my lobby ask to get it, and we all helped him, and i asked to get it too, and then they all helped me, and i used my ult like 4 times and could not get it

[jovial frigate]

just seeing the monstro achieve is 90% now too

[long wharf]

you still have to get the killing blow

[jovial frigate]

yall will never know the pain of losing it to a single barrel/single vet shot tho

[river crest]

yeah it can take more than your alt, you'll want a force sword too, ult and then keep mashing the push attack to get any stragglers

[red basin]

i almost got monstrum in a random lobby a couple days ago it was painful

[drowsy fog]

it takes a while for sure

[long wharf]

nah, get an ogryn with a shield to block one end of the thin walkway next to the bridge in the starting area of Chasm Logistratum

[red basin]

they all just ignored the nurgle beast as if it wasnt there and i was so confused but i soloed the whole thing down to like 2 pops left and then everyone died elsewhere and so did i

[river crest]

oof

[red basin]

my roomate plays shield ogryn ill try that later

[long wharf]

lure the horde to that walkway, then the psyker runs out and pushes off the mass of the horde from the bridge

works every time

helped three people do that

[drowsy fog]

get a shield ogryn to aggro a demonhost, easiest way

[river crest]

or kinetic deflection psyker

[long wharf]

sure, just someone to hold back the horde while you wait for the critical mass of bodies to build up

[red basin]

since i just got on

just to confirm yes it is 7 and yes i still cannot do it lmao

[drowsy fog]

another garbage shop roll wooooo

[long wharf]

yeah, my shops are a total shitshow right now

nothing good for any character

that's two weeks in a row now that my psyker hasn't seen anything worth buying with those hex tokens

Sour Milk is really dropping the ball

on top of handing out totally random rolled gear

[jovial frigate]

found a 380 white surge this mornign just for it to roll this garbage

[long wharf]

oh good lord, rip your staff

[jovial frigate]

hex tokens are a meme imo

[long wharf]

that's when you hope we get the option to reroll the entire staff

[drowsy fog]

blessing rerolls in 3 days right?

[jovial frigate]

probably better off just buying randoms

[long wharf]

perk reroll

[jovial frigate]

yeah sure

[red basin]

aw man the requisitorium just reset and i only had 100 ranged kills left to get my completion bonus rip

[subtle oxide]

Do you need to be lvl 30 for pick n mix or just makes it easier?

[drowsy fog]

makes it possible lol

[glass osprey]

You need kinetic barrage

[long wharf]

I don't see how you could do it otherwise

[olive ember]

I think its technically do able without kinetic barrage

but even with kinetic barrage it takes ~8 seconds, which gives you 4 seconds of leeway

[hot tulip]

guys save ur fking tokens

[glass osprey]

Can you actually get Blazing Spirit on Surge staff? I’m not seeing anything to suggest you can at a glance

[hot tulip]

and crafting mats

until crafting fully releases

[red basin]

do gunners/shotgunners not die in 1 pop on heresy

[drowsy fog]

even with kinetic barrage good luck

[subtle oxide]

they do

[drowsy fog]

thats probably the roughest penance psyker has

[red basin]

oh okay its less about running out of peril and more about the time i see

[drowsy fog]

they're both a problem

[jovial frigate]

ye feels like if u have to quell at all u lose

[red basin]

you can pop like 7 times in a row if you have your ult charged up though cant you

or 6

[drowsy fog]

you can get 1 bb outside of barrage and 3 inside of it but you dont have to fully quell anyway, just get down to 43% and you can throw out another one

[olive ember]

^^ The best way is to be at 0% peil

BB one normally, which gets you to 45% and then press F to immediately quell and proc kinetic barrage

[drowsy fog]

when you start yeah but to squeeze out that last one its a race against time

[olive ember]

you can then fit the next 4 BB without needing to quell

[drowsy fog]

what sort of warp resistance do you have

1 pop outside barrage gets me 56%

[jovial frigate]

ya but my problem is because i havent been penance hunting it, im never at low enough peril to actually try it when i see it lol

[olive ember]

are you right clicking or left clicking?

[jovial frigate]

if ur not hunting specifically for that penance it feels impossibru

[olive ember]

left click should only get you to 45% no matter what

[jovial frigate]

but dont worry guys they just got the wording wrong :^)

[olive ember]

right click will push you to 56%

[red basin]

they meant to say 22 seconds not 12 seconds it was a phrasing issue

[uncut hamlet]

Have any of yall seen a single deflector force sword since release

I found one at level 10, and never again

[olive ember]

I got mine a week ago

[uncut hamlet]

back in beta

[olive ember]

and I think someone else got one today

though they crafted their FS

[uncut hamlet]

its either rare or im just unlucky ig

[red basin]

just checked i can do exactly 5 pops with ult and without KB

[vital bough]

hooooolly fuck man I'm sorry

[jovial frigate]

dont worry guys rerolls this week

[uncut hamlet]

ranged crit damage could be worse, youll be able to reroll the sprint and blessing. Maybe you keep blessing cuz of range crit hit? idk

[vital bough]

I've gone through about 4 or 5 really early on. Couldn't find any for about a week after I got to 30.

[ornate hamlet]

solo play comes out this week right?

[uncut hamlet]

you could make it work and surge mostly needs c, which isnt stat based anyway

[uncut hamlet]

private lobbies, not solo play yet

[magic hull]

sadge momentum

[uncut hamlet]

yea ig im just super unlucky then

[olive ember]

yeah it should be 45 % peril for one BB

base

[jovial frigate]

i would want to keep the blessing if it wasnt 2% crit at MAX peril. so like 0.4% per whatever peril threshold

[ornate hamlet]

have they said if penances will be unlockable in private lobbies?

[uncut hamlet]

stacks 5 times, so 10%

and if you find more of those you can upgrade it

[jovial frigate]

no no re-read, it says MAX of 2%

[uncut hamlet]

they likel will be

[ornate hamlet]

it's max 2% per stack

[uncut hamlet]

2% per stack

yea

[jovial frigate]

im reading it as, stacks 5 times, up to a max of 2%

[red basin]

wait does warp resist on a weapon carry when your g is out?

[uncut hamlet]

then they would put the stack behind the crit chance imo

[olive ember]

dark tide description interpretation game

[uncut hamlet]

but fs is bad at descriptions

so who knows

[jovial frigate]

based fartshart

[uncut hamlet]

regardless once its fully upgraded

itll be eough crit chance to matter hopefully

[vital bough]

By the way, this Warp Nexus blessing actually applies to all your weapons, even if your staff isn't equipped.

Higher peril while BB'ing will give you higher crit chance.

Warp Nexus at its' level 4 version will give you 5% crit every stack, to a max of 25% at 100% peril.
This can make you BB's crit.

[olive ember]

?? shouldn't its always been 45% base, are you using right click or left click for BB charging

[uncut hamlet]

oh theres your answer then

wait thats not bad at all

[jovial frigate]

thats not horrid then if true, so I can live with it

[uncut hamlet]

going a high peril crit build doesnt sound terrible considering you can melee between surge cc

and surg staff isnt used for its damage anyway, but that 380 is delicious

[red basin]

im asking because im 99% sure i just BBd for only 36% in the meat grinder but now i cant get it to do it again

[jovial frigate]

then i can just either rng a supress or something or re-bless a good blessing onto my weapon when that realeases in 2024

[uncut hamlet]

6 stacks warp charge with peril resistance maybe

[boreal crystal]

which duelling sword do people like and why?

[red basin]

i dont have that and i also hadnt popped 6 times it was like right when i entered on the first or second pop

[uncut hamlet]

the one that stabs people because it hurts them

[vital bough]

You can also try and min max, find the exact max% that your staff can RMB with before exploding, but warp resistance differentiation with each staff makes this hard to be consistent with unless you use the same staff every game.

[olive ember]

dunno but 4 stacks of peril resist will make it ~36%

[uncut hamlet]

do you take communion, flayer, or ascendant? could've gotten charges without BB'ing without noticing

[uncut hamlet]

yea that sounds about right

[lethal plover]

man.....

[red basin]

yes but im in meat grinder and had JUST entered

[olive ember]

no clue then

[uncut hamlet]

bug? maybe it thought you had stacks for some reason?

[lethal plover]

you know one good advantage of pub teams compared to premade
is that even if you get one shit team, the next team could be good, unlike in premade where you are kinda stuck

[red basin]

i jumped right in, popped, and saw a 36% and didnt realize til yall were talking about 45% lmao

[olive ember]

btw you def want to pop KB earlier rather than later if you are spam BB'ing

[uncut hamlet]

bb should always be 45 base

[olive ember]

like pop it at <50% peril rather than at max

[uncut hamlet]

cuz 36 is the number for 4 stack peril resist

so it mightve thought you had stacks for some reason

[vital bough]

Best damnation run I've had was in a PUB where nobody left each others' sides.

Oddly enough that's usually all it takes for a team to make it through, just stay in coherency lol

[red basin]

ok i clipped it lemme cut this and show you, its weird it hit 45% then dropped down for some reason?

[uncut hamlet]

In my experience most runs go to shit because team splits

teamwork is real important in this game

[olive ember]

thats the 10% quell chance on kill

[lethal plover]

yeah stay together
and preferably have an ogryn or psyker who can clutch revive

[olive ember]

10% chance to quell 10% on kill, not high enough to ever really rely on but still nice when it procs

[uncut hamlet]

Its great for purge builds

[red basin]

aaaah i didnt realize that was iconic i thought it was in a diff feat

[uncut hamlet]

you never need to quell during hordes

good for void too

[vital bough]

It's almost like the game tries to incentivize this in every way possible.... lol
"Stay around eachother, every class gives each other bonuses"
"Also your feats will give your friends benefits"
"Oh yeah also you naturally regain toughness around friends"

Yet still people run off 30m across the room on damnation for some reason lul

[uncut hamlet]

fr where are they even going

[half iron]

teamwork? in my co-op shooter? what is that

[lethal plover]

the other side of that
is that the game is unbearably hard without a team

[uncut hamlet]

Shooter? Laughs in purgation

[orchid nest]

procced passive vent on kill maybe

[half iron]

you press m1 to shoot the melee
checkmate

[orchid nest]

oh someone already said it

[uncut hamlet]

ah but the m1 is still a blast of fire

[half iron]

vent

[uncut hamlet]

not a projectile

checkmatemate

checkcheckmate?

[half iron]

everything is a projectile that hasn’t been thrown yet

[red basin]

what do yall think of the void staff im addicted to surge rn i think

[uncut hamlet]

I'll remember that if I find you in a pug and theres a cliff

[orchid nest]

old habits die hard

[uncut hamlet]

Void one of the best and most satisfying

railguns through a horde, does decent damage to elites, and alright cc

[tranquil badge]

Void is my favorite

[vital bough]

Really good if you can get Quell on it.

In hordes, aiming for heads with the RMB is literally free and costs no peril.

[uncut hamlet]

great range

[tranquil badge]

I love railgunning shit from 100 yds away

[uncut hamlet]

I have the quell on weakspot hit so I never need to quell, its great

[olive ember]

void is nice, purge just makes me feel like im running garbo flamer, surge is king

[uncut hamlet]

I love purge because of ascendant mostly

[red basin]

the CC on surge is really hard to give up i think

[vital bough]

Purg is really only viable if you're running all the Soulblaze feats to support it.

[uncut hamlet]

wiped out around 8 elites at once from both the ult and staff soulfire stacks

[olive ember]

I don't think you run all soulblaze feats even on purge

only AB

[uncut hamlet]

the only soulfire feat i run is the ult and it wrks

yea

[tranquil badge]

Surge just doesn’t do enough dmg to be fun for me

[red basin]

i liked the idea of surge i just had such a hard time with long range enemies

[uncut hamlet]

youre 100% a support with surge, but yea i get you

[tranquil badge]

It’s a great staff just not fun for me

[olive ember]

kinetic overload works, but on higher difficulty you want warp battery to get 6 charges for ascendant blaze

[uncut hamlet]

i dont like surge either

[tranquil badge]

Exactly I’m here to light heretics up

[red basin]

i meant purge mb

[uncut hamlet]

I run kinetic shield instead but thats mostly a preference

[red basin]

i like the crowd stuns with surge, im okay with not doing damage because im a psyker and im not doing it anyways

[uncut hamlet]

range enemies are toughf or you yea, but good thing vets are the most popular role in the game rn

[olive ember]

I find the 33% toughness reduction barely helps and would rather use mind in motion

[tranquil badge]

I’m addicted to peril block

[red basin]

unfortunately every time ive run purge ive had teammates who wont do shit

[olive ember]

but with deflector FS kinetic deflection is the go to

[half iron]

purg lets you sneeze one time and instantly have the veteran say “oh dear the witch is killing a lot”

[orchid nest]

just have to exploit and you too can be a dps surge kappa

[uncut hamlet]

the voicelines are definitely a part of it

[olive ember]

someone mentioned they ran ascendant blaze while using the surge staff on reddit

[uncut hamlet]

ult also goes through walls

[olive ember]

and I was like "dude why?"

[uncut hamlet]

so you can burn a horde of ranged enemies from behind cover in a pinch

[red basin]

they shoot my pops with 110% accuracy in a split second 360 no scope drop shot hacker ESP aimbot but if i cant reach a shooter with a purge staff they will stand there and shoot me until i die and nobody else will shoot it

[vital bough]

I don't take the BB soulblaze feat at lvl 15, that one sucks. But if you pair Psychic Communion along with Kinetic Overload, it's actually really strong in large hordes at higher levels where your teammates give you several warp charges a second. It will target the same Elite that's closest to you and stack upwards of 12 or 16 stacks of Soulbaze a second, and iirc 16 stacks of soulblaze is around 190ish damage a second.

Pair this with the Soulblaze Ult that also gives you warp charges for soulblaze kills and you get even more procs on Kinetic Overload

[uncut hamlet]

Yea ive seen that build a lot and I definitely see the appeal

[lethal plover]

does kinetic overload actually automatically kill elites

[vital bough]

It's fun but not super strong

[uncut hamlet]

havent tried it enough times myself yet

[half iron]

i don’t think you should run all soulblaze feats if you are running soulblaze, but you should at least use the lvl 30 feat

[vital bough]

Auto targets the closest elite as top priority

[half iron]

it’s cute

[lethal plover]

someone reported kinetic overload killed quite a few

[olive ember]

you need to stack alot to kill elites with kinetic overload in testing

so imo warp battery is worth it 9/10 times due to peril resist and 6 stacks makes AB hit harder

[uncut hamlet]

with communion and purge staff you get those stacks fast

[orchid nest]

I wonder if they will fix the infinite surge thing with the coming patch

[uncut hamlet]

Ive been wanting to try a trauma staff because they look cool but

[red basin]

let us roll +1-3 warp charges on staves as a blessing

[uncut hamlet]

theyre just so bad

[vital bough]

I will say this:
Kinetic Overload is ONLY GOOD when you pair it with secondary ways to acquire Warp Charges, other than BB'ing.
Psychic Communion is the main one, at lvl 15
And Ascendant Blaze at lvl 30

[deft gorge]

stonks?

[vital bough]

I actually really like Warp Nexus after noticing it works while you're not even using your staff

[olive ember]

you need 2 extra stacks to kill a gunner

3 extra stacks to kill a mauler

[deft gorge]

oh good to know

[olive ember]

maybe useful on mauler + horde but besides that kinda meh

[lethal plover]

so it's anti-mauler I guess

[red basin]

but the blue fire visual is cool

[grave owl]

Anyone got suggestions on blowing up and killing the leets?

[red basin]

cool points for that

[olive ember]

you are also givin up the 6 stack AB

[lethal plover]

it's hard to understand how much it contributes, because usually mauler is already in the line of fire

[red basin]

mauler is dead in 4 seconds anyways if your vet has a bolter

[olive ember]

maulers also die quickly enough just using purge normally

[vital bough]

So, some interesting stats on Soulfire damage per second:
4 stacks = 21
8 stacks = 76
12 stacks = 153
16 stacks = 240
20 stacks = 326
(This could possibly stack higher but I can't test in the meatgrinder as everything dies before I can proc it more than 5 times)

Also the stacks applied from your Purg staff have their own max stack limit(found in the 'Burn' bar when inspected) , but Soulblaze from Feats seems to override this and stack even higher than that when given the opportunity.
Example: My Purg staff has 80% on the Burn bar, max stack of 15 Soulblaze for 197 damage per tic at 15 stacks; yet Kinetic Overload will continuously stack past this, though the meatgrinder doesn't give good chances for me to stack kinetic overload as quickly as it could in a real match.

(Posted from earlier today)

[lethal plover]

best not to assume bolter can do everything
bolter has limited ammo. I ran damnation endless just now and bolter ran dry quite quickly

[uncut hamlet]

Communions just seems so much better than the other 2 honestly. CL can be used for assassinations, but personally Id take communion over aura any day

[uncut hamlet]

tbf 15 stacks of soulblaze is alr enough to kill most things

[red basin]

so with KO, communion, and AB that still isnt enough to make KO worth it?

[lethal plover]

KO is competing with 6 stacks AB

[valid crow]

What's your take on the purgatus staff ?

[lethal plover]

usually clearing out a room with 6 stacks AB can be more clutch than KO

[olive ember]

the problem with KO is that you forgo warp battery, which allows you to get the room wide 6 stack burn

[lethal plover]

which is why people recommend 6 stacks, but KO's contribution is very hard to quantify

[olive ember]

then again I don't use purge so idk in practice how often you are actually hitting 6 stacks

[vital bough]

6 stack burn is only 49 damage iirc

something really low

[olive ember]

vs how often you are overcapping 4

[red basin]

true i was just thinking using AB for the passive warp charge gen would make KO better, not necessarily for the ult ability part

[olive ember]

it matters on damnation

[uncut hamlet]

Every horde essentially, and many times outside of it too

[lethal plover]

kills the trash zombies which is the most important, and stacks on top of purg

[uncut hamlet]

with AB you get stacks like crazy

[long wharf]

the big question is - is soulblaze damage affected by your damage modifiers?

if not, then additional warp charges isn't good for the purge staff

[red basin]

which would let KO funnel them to nearby elites right? while you burn the horde with your staff?

[timber shale]

KO could be useful if it procced on an elite in a mixed horde, and then you drop ascendant blaze on them for 8 stacks burn plus 4 stacks on the rest of the horde.

[olive ember]

I mean the problem is that you can also just burn the elites with the staff while funneling the horde

[uncut hamlet]

Thats the idea behind it

[timber shale]

The problem is just that’s so unreliable

[olive ember]

one full charge of purge can kill a mauler on damnation w/o kinetic flaer

[red basin]

not necessarily if theyre all around you but i get that

[vital bough]

You overcap at 4, and stay at 4 nonstop with AB and, Psychic Communion.
4% chance for every enemy you (and your team in coherency) kills is actually quite a lot, quite often giving you a Warp Charge several times a second, wich can sometimes instantly apply 12, sometimes 16 stacks of soulblaze instantly to the closest Elite

[lethal plover]

purg burn stacks are capped

[uncut hamlet]

quick side to side sweeps can stun a horde

[vital bough]

Depends on your staff, it's uncapped with feats.

[olive ember]

well yes but frankly i don't find that as useful

[uncut hamlet]

Do feats add on to it? so if I have 14 from staff, will AB make it 20?

[olive ember]

I prefer the extra 2 stacks of burn to help kill everything when I press F

[lethal plover]

what feats uncap it?

[vital bough]

I haven't tested that tbh but I probably could in a sec

[red basin]

this is all very interesting and making me reconsider purge staves

[olive ember]

yeah I can oneshot a mauler on damnation (meatgrinder atleast) with one full charge of purge, and my purge isn't even that good with 53% burn

[lethal plover]

please don't tell me the soul blaze feats
I now think of soul blaze from feats as separate from purg staff
purg staff burns are capped

[vital bough]

Kinetic Overload stacks up to 20, at least. I just can't use Psychic Communion or AB in the Meatgrinder so I'm stuck proc'ing it with normal BB

[olive ember]

so i just dont see KO being that useful

[lethal plover]

ye you're repeating my idea

purg without feats are capped

so it could be that KO is what allows purg builds to kill elites faster?

[vital bough]

Man I literally said it's uncapped with feats idk what you expected...? sorry lol

[uncut hamlet]

also remember that 6 stacks increases damage by 6% too

not huge for BB

but considering youre dealing with hordes a lot, and dot

it adds up

[vital bough]

Kinetic Overload stacks up to 20, at least. I just can't use Psychic Communion or AB in the Meatgrinder so I'm stuck proc'ing it with normal BB. I can't get past 20 before the Reaper Ogryn dies.

[uncut hamlet]

18 total, but 6 from battery

[lethal plover]

what makes it hard to test
is that meat grinder doesn't have a big horde
that can trigger KO continuously

[olive ember]

its also gives peril resist which helps assuming you aren't using the current purge quell bug

[uncut hamlet]

yea

[vital bough]

Or 3 teammates that can give you Warp Charges with Psychic Communion

Or a the horde being on fire to give you more warp charges too

[lethal plover]

if KO gets triggered continuously and there's no cap, could it actually kill elites quite well when paired with purg?

[uncut hamlet]

yea 1 full charge of purge staff kills maulers on damnation

takes a few seconds

Kills bulwarks pretty fast too, assuming youre not shooting into their shield

[naive dawn]

only carapace armor is what purg staff is weak on.

[river crest]

Which of these is better to upgrade?

[naive dawn]

top one

[vital bough]

I believe so yes, 1 proc equals 4 stacks. 4 stacks alone is not great but when you start proc'ing it several times a second it gets exponentially more damage than Kinetic Flayer or the extra 6% damage feats in the same category can get you, when kinetic flayer is stuck on a 15s cooldown (KO has no CD), and 6% damage will net you maybe 60 extra damage on your BB's

[naive dawn]

damage doesnt mean much on purg, burn + cloud is best imo.

[river crest]

kk

[naive dawn]

Does anyone know if these actually trigger or work?

[uncut hamlet]

mutants are too tanky in damnation for BB or purge i think

[naive dawn]

I cant notice any significant jump in crit % practicing

[vital bough]

Mutants take 3 BB's in damnation iirc

[uncut hamlet]

Nexus does, even when youre not using staff

[uncut hamlet]

4

was testing just now

[vital bough]

yeah even worse then lol

[uncut hamlet]

On the other hand

force sword

[vital bough]

I just don't bother killing anything other than gunners, trappers, snipers, and bombers with BB in damnation. Everything else just about take more than 1 BB

[uncut hamlet]

thats 1 hit

[lethal plover]

don't bother with BB for mutants. counter is surge then chop. if no surge then dodge then chop.
if can't dodge because the horde is around you rip, but that's why you need to clear the horde fast

[river crest]

the results

[uncut hamlet]

force sword is surprsingly good at single target

better than I expected

[vital bough]

I like abusing Warp Nexus on my Force Sword to hit for 2000dmg

[naive dawn]

strong weapon, kinda bummer on sprint + run and gun but still worth using for stats alone. Save to reroll if anything else.

[river crest]

aye

[uncut hamlet]

yea its crazy

[lethal plover]

meh, it's good for stragglers, but in a horde the moment of vulnerability is quite bad

you could get shot or chipped by others

[vital bough]

Good for when you dodge and turn on a mutant tho

[uncut hamlet]

It is yea

[lethal plover]

yeah nice when there's nothing around you

[naive dawn]

Its incredible on bosses too

[uncut hamlet]

6 stacks actually does give you some breakpoints too

with force sword

dreg rager, the armored one for example

[naive dawn]

Ive been trying chainsword out and I really enjoy it.

[lethal plover]

why can't they give us i-frames during the chaining animation, like doom

[vital bough]

lol my Force Sword crits for 2550dps on the force charge

On Damnation

[lethal plover]

isn't damage the same on all difficulties?

just health of enemies increases

[uncut hamlet]

That one shots everything except ogryns and mutant I think

Two shots mutants

[vital bough]

I've just been testing on Damnation so I put it out there

[scarlet lily]

If you have good rolls and charge a heavy a bit before the buff wears off you can one tap a mutant *on 4/5 from my experience

[sick fulcrum]

pick n' mix is such a BS challenge

[white badger]

Yep.. one of several "screw over your team" challenges.

Hey.. has anyone sorted out whether "Warp Flurry" even works? That's the staff blessing that is supposed to reduce charge times

[long wharf]

I've seen it work on my staves

[white badger]

You really notice a difference when chaining charged attacks? What kind of staff?

[long wharf]

I have it on a purge, void, and surge

chaining charged attacks just means doing multiple charged attacks quickly

it's a good blessing

[white badger]

OK. I have it on my best Purgatus and my best Surge... but I honestly can't tell much of a difference in the charge time.

Could be user error on my part 😉

[mental kraken]

is there any strat for, going out with a bang?

[tardy flower]

get to 100% peril, hope there are 3 elites near you with low hp

[harsh ingot]

If you have good helpers they can kill trash and just keep pushing a bunch of maulers or similar together for you. Otherwise it’s suicide and hope 😜

[tardy flower]

repeat as necessary

[mental kraken]

good 2 know i will continue 2 play like a degenerate and keep blowing myself up in hored

[tardy flower]

bring wound curios

[mental kraken]

hordes*

[ornate hamlet]

I forget which difficulty I did it on, but what I did was brainburst 3 unarmored ragers and then blew myself up while an ogryn tanked their attacks

The BBs was able to damage them enough without killing them to let the peril explosion gank them

But also yeah bring wound curios if possible in case you have to retry a few times

[red basin]

is this good

[ashen ore]

On the penance where you have to brain burst the pox hound do you have to kill it while it is jumping through the air at someone?

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, ranger seems to be the best bet. Maulers got high HP, you will have to strip them down before blowing yurself up.

[red basin]

yes

[stoic night]

Greetings, I have a question that is kind of destroying me.
Does ANYBODY know the name of this headgear?

[ornate hamlet]

Final penance hood

[red basin]

i think the penance one has a red stripe, isnt this one of the recolors in the shop?

i might be wrong on that

[stoic night]

Thanks a lot already, but I cannot find anything under that name,
can you perhaps tell me how to get it o.O ?

[ornate hamlet]

If thats the case it might not be in the game, I dont remember the hats in the shop having the goggles, just the mask

Could be wrong since I didnt buy any of them but

[ornate hamlet]

Have to complete pretty much all of the penances for Psyker to get the final hood

[red basin]

yeah penance one has red stripe

[stoic night]

How so ?

[ornate hamlet]

The different hood tiers only appear once you unlock the previous tier

[stoic night]

Oh ... ok

Thx, ... kind of weird design choice ... how am I supposed to know what I am working for XD

[red basin]

you see them each tier but yeah i agree they should show you all tiers at the start

[stoic night]

But big thx.
I was really afraid this would be some exclusive Pre-Order / Beta / Crowdfund BS iteam <D

Happy it is seemingly not.

[red basin]

nah only one beta item and its the beta helmets

well a charm too but thats all

[stoic night]

I never participated in the beta but have it for some reason :/

[red basin]

did you play the preorder beta?

[stoic night]

no

[red basin]

i played the closed beta and got it

but i heard some people just got them for buying the game week 1

[stoic night]

oh. yeah I guess I did that

I own Vermintide 1 and 2 ... just for the record.

[red basin]

nice

[stoic night]

maybe that has something to do with it

[red basin]

theres some hair cosmetics for that as well

[half iron]

my hungry ass can’t work in the hive sewers

[sacred lodge]

Really need to figure out a solo build

I mean I know I can’t solo, but something to make the pugs a bit easier

[lethal plover]

axe surge

[sacred lodge]

It would also help if the requisitions didn’t have absolute garbage tier weapons in stock… but that’s just me be unlucky

[ornate hamlet]

I keep getting the most mid weapons from the shop and then a god tier Emperor’s Gift of a weapon I dont particularly care for

[lethal plover]

as long as you know the way of the peril axe pub games should be easy

[white badger]

Yeah.. this discord turned me on to the MK V Axe a few days ago. Gamechanger of a weapon for psykers.

[tranquil badge]

I’ve only been able to get the mk7 but it has been a serviceable axe as well

[vital bough]

Empruh' blessed me with this one, I see the value of peril block and shove attacking with this for sure lol

[weak galleon]

There's difference between "serviceable" and "Flaming Flail/ FlameSword level of goodness", if you played VT2.

[vital bough]

Tho I do like this one

Hard to choose between the axe and the deflector on the sword

[red basin]

< executioners sword

[sick fulcrum]

They need to add a few more seconds to pick n' mix

[red basin]

honestly 16 would still be a challenge

[sick fulcrum]

The hard part is cleaning up the mobs to prep the specials

I almost had it done twice today

[vital bough]

Easiest way I've seen people cheese it is going in at low pop queue times, doing t4 and getting bots on maps with high intensity.
Take the BB ult and then repeat

Still super fucking obnoxious

It's all rng

[red basin]

i might be done w psyker until they add that 2h force sword in, i feel like im doing next to nothing to help my team like wat da hell am i supposed to be doing

[quaint shell]

What does special melee of the dueling sword do? Parry? Pierce?

[red basin]

stab foward

[sick fulcrum]

Crowd control with the purge staff

[languid surge]

i fancy the voidstrike myself

[tranquil badge]

I’m a flail man myself

[red basin]

im gonna ignore the weird joe biden account i think lmao

[sick fulcrum]

That's a good one I just haven't found a decent one

[obsidian creek]

we need a Zwheilander

[red basin]

i like the surge staff and i have fun with it but damn i cant find my place in a squad

[tranquil badge]

Mk 5 is really flame flail level good?

[red basin]

maybe i just keep getting bad randoms

[grave owl]

2 handed force sword when.

[sick fulcrum]

What difficulty are you match making on you tend to get better randoms on heresy than on malice

[vital bough]

Best CC is Surge, get a high warp resistance surge staff and spam the rmb attack without charging just for the cc, quell, repeat. Helps your team with everything from Ogryn to Flak Gunners squads, Shotgun and Gunner Scabs, dogs, trappers, everything.

Apart from that you can provide great support for picking up teammates with peril blocking and routinely be the last one alive, as long as you don't blow yourself up.

Sadly the damage options aren't that great for Psyker tho, so if you're looking to do damage instead of serve a support role it'll be a bit underwhelming.

[red basin]

right im kinda waiting for that, i dont really like any of the axes or swords and the 1h force sword feels underwhelming

[tranquil badge]

Take voidstrike be the dmg

I believe in you sibling

[red basin]

i imagine theyll add it soon considering theyre adding the power maul in

[lethal plover]

get the axe to actually clear hordes

[grave owl]

Agreed 💯

[red basin]

ive been doing that but damn people just do not clear enemies and i end up just having to melee everything anyways

[vital bough]

I do like using the Force Sword, and using the alt fire with the crit blessing on the staff to get 2500dps in one hit

[red basin]

been using the axe and its fine i just dont really like it thematically with the character and if nothing else im only playing this game to feel cool so that is priority 1

[vital bough]

It's probably good practice to get used to shocking small groups once, swapping to melee as they get cc'd and cleave em down if your team isn't actually helping you enough.

[kindred delta]

why is it that storm witches redemption is a complete style departure from the last 2 outfits?

lol

[red basin]

ive been doing that but all i can think is how id just be doing better at that if i was playing any other class

i havent really been able to slip into like a cc/buff space on almost any missions yet because im constantly forced to kill all the specials and clear the hordes and do the objectives

the amount of people who just run around doing nothing is astounding

[languid surge]

well there you go

[vital bough]

I know man, that's kinda the fault of the other 3 at that point though, not entirely the class

[languid surge]

thats the issue, you can't find yourspot on the team cause you havent actually had one lol

[vital bough]

lol

[red basin]

just feels better to solo as a vet or ogryn at this point because i can at least do my entire job regardless

[vital bough]

Psyker really does shine when your team comes together though, it gives you a nice bubble to sit and spam cc if you want or go full damage with whatever damage staff you're running

[languid surge]

yeeeah

[red basin]

soloing as a psyker has meant 8/10 games is just me playing a worse version of a zealot trying to hit everything with my axe

[vital bough]

Do you take Peril blocking...? I'd really recommend it. It can make you as tanky as an Ogryn.

[red basin]

while my vet teammates yell at me for not popping the sniper

[red basin]

havent gotten it yet

[vital bough]

Oh if you haven't even gotten lvl 30 on Psyker you're not gonna enjoy it as much

[teal needle]

Peril blocking's like rank 10 innit

[languid surge]

rank15 and agree with swamp

[red basin]

im only like uhhhh 18? i think? something like that

its just been so slow to level because every single mission is such a pain i end up switching back to a diff class instead after 2 of them

[vital bough]

Psyker takes much longer than the other classes to really come together

[languid surge]

oh i guess its 20 then

[red basin]

i know itll get better with more levels and better teammates but damn it feels like such ass right now

[languid surge]

yeah i basically ran away from melee combat (not actually) before i got peril blocking

[lethal plover]

man, then you haven't tasted the sheer ridiculousness of psyker tank

[red basin]

yeah id love it but rolling weapons is dookie

[lethal plover]

probably just chill more in malice to get it. should not be hard to be carried

[red basin]

man ive barely been running malice

people keep dying even in uprising

[vital bough]

Start doing malice, you'll probably get more competent teammates. Lots of lvl 30's run it since it's faster to get plasteel in malice than Heresy or Damnation lol

[red basin]

at least then i can carry if i have to

ill try, its just spooky since i normally play vet and the carry potential there is so different if i get a shitty team

[vital bough]

It's a bit of a step up but you'll more than likely get carried if you need to in malice.

T1 and T2 difficulties are other ppl that hardly know the game at all, still getting used to it, probably haven't even done that specific mission before and are lost, etc...

Malice, lots of lvl 30's running for plasteel that will save you if you need it and also grab tons of plasteel, know the map, and can probably carry by themselves if they need to

It kinda bothers me that, if I need Plasteel, it's better to do Malice instead of Heresy or Damnation lol
Not sure what the thinking is there, I like Heresy and Damnation but I really fuckin need plasteel

[jovial quail]

So i'm using the smallest model and the nut protector clips into the waistband, can anyone check their taller model to see if its the same?

[vast oasis]

worth upgrading?

[white badger]

Nope. Not at that damage.

[jovial quail]

Definitely keep to transfer that blessing later on though

[languid surge]

not good enough to get that yet lmao

[jovial quail]

@languid surge Make a buddy with kinetic deflector or ogyrn with shield on daemonhost, makes it braindead easy lol.

[languid surge]

that DOES sound easy lol

[timber shale]

Whoah, I’ve never seen that blessing before, that’s really cool

[ebon jolt]

It sounds cooler than it is on void staff.

Seems good for surge.

[jovial quail]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing as well, if it was double attack on critical but idk might kill some elites/specials faster

Alright Tallest Model (Left) vs Shortest Model (Right) is the same protector clipping lol. At least now I know

[regal jasper]

How do i unlock zappy fingers?

Im lvl 8 and saw a lvl 28 with them

[chrome osprey]

It’s the surge force staff

[regal jasper]

Oh

[tropic halo]

i wish there was a version of that headgear without the mask, it goes so well with the armor

[chrome osprey]

Stick with a big poptart on the top

[regal jasper]

Thank you

I see

[jovial quail]

@tropic halo Yeah I don't mind the mask personally but would love an alternative. Hopefully it'll become a penance/in game reward version

[ornate hamlet]

🙁

[jovial quail]

Bleh heavily tempted to make a second Pysker at this point, especially if we get shared resources...

Guess i'll wait to see what their final verdict is on it

[weak galleon]

Then that anology should give you an idea how different Mk5 is to most axes.

[runic gate]

Mk 5 is the only axe I have found to be effective in damnation. With that said my axe is insane lol

[old quiver]

Never miss an oppurtunity to post this axe huh lol

[paper trail]

That is photoshopped? Tier 4 blessing on blue but have never seen that perk before anywhere.

[old quiver]

It is beautiful

[runic gate]

Never

I’m proud of my child

[runic gate]

It’s not.

[paper trail]

What does 2 shots on critical even mean? Where did that come from? Normal shop or was it consecrated to blue?

[old quiver]

Critical hit = Two projectiles

So they're both criticial? Or does it proc on the next shot?

[ebon jolt]

The damage of the second projectile is based on the charge and spot hit from the first shot.

It just does extra damage.

[runic gate]

I have 100+ hours in this game and haven’t seen that perk

[ebon jolt]

Non-crit. But can weakspot.

[runic gate]

Curious to see how it works

[old quiver]

Same

[nocturne palm]

what is considered an elite enemy?

[paper trail]

Never seen that perk before anywhere even in the catalogies people made it honestly sounds shopped Ive never seen it on a staff but I hope its real because doubling damage on a crit would be huge for voidstrike

[old quiver]

Seems like a sick one

[runic gate]

Show us how that staff works @vast oasis

[old quiver]

Shotgunners, gunners, maniacs, cruishers, bulwarks, and reapers

[paper trail]

Combined with Warp Nexus would be a good combination with perk ranged crit chance roll

[nocturne palm]

okee thank you

[ebon jolt]

It's not good for void tho because you kill everything you need to kill in one hit and you want weakspot quell.

[vast oasis]

pretty real

[paper trail]

Thats crazy, but amazing

[ornate lichen]

What blessings should I be looking for for my staffs?

[paper trail]

I mean, its tier 4, is there a tier 1, 2 or 3 with 1 shots on critical hit? Is it 3 shots? Or is it another tierless perk with no scale for tier

[teal cargo]

hmm this worth upgrading?

[mild tartan]

Pretty good, 380 base is max

[lethal plover]

looks bad

[jovial quail]

Actually it might be photoshopped lol, it's not an option according to the website

[lethal plover]

cleaving and damage are what yo uwant

[mild tartan]

True damage is lacking

[ebon jolt]

Tierless

[dusky smelt]

unless its some wierd bug or they added it in some shadow update surge is not a blessing in game

[dusky smelt]

for any weapon

[silver peak]

As a psyker, do I need to keep updating my sword as I level?

[jovial quail]

@vast oasis Might wanna get in touch with that website and let them know or post on reddit so someone else can

and definitely upgrade it and try that shit and see if it pops off lol

[ebon jolt]

I have one it exists.

[dusky smelt]

its got to be a bug b/c that description doesnt even make sense for the weapon type

[jovial quail]

It still doesn't seem that amazing on voidstrike but still

[dusky smelt]

wtf does +2 shots on a staff mean

[jovial quail]

Needs to be on purge the most imo, thing gets Run N Gun 90% of the time

[dusky smelt]

probably b/c purge only has a pool of 5 blessings rn

[ebon jolt]

Surge: If you crit, the staff does one additional non-crit damage instance on the target. It does the damage to the same part of the body (can weakspot). It cannot crit. Same damage depending on right click charge.

[old quiver]

Imagine if it could crit and continuously proc lmao

[jovial quail]

Wish it said "2 hits on crit strike" then or something else other than shot

[old quiver]

Real shit

[celest oar]

you can turn the voidstrike into a machinegun

[dusky smelt]

is that primary fire only or secondary fire too?

[celest oar]

press r after the bolt leaves the staff

works for both primary and secondary

[old quiver]

wtf

[jovial quail]

Interesting

Might actually have to fk with it lol

[old quiver]

Is that a bug?

[jovial quail]

got a good t3 quell on weakspot for it too might be pretty fun

[brave scaffold]

?

[celest oar]

animation cancel, technically not a bug?

but... these two definetly are

note the peril

[jovial quail]

hahah holy crap its fast AF

I might actually have to mess with voidstrike now

[old quiver]

Voidstrike is sick dude

[old quiver]

Howm'st

What are you doing here lol this is crazy

[long wharf]

his videos are sped up

[robust geyser]

I dont think so

[celest oar]

they arent

[hoary hearth]

Is kinetic barrage feat worth taking if you're not doing the penance?

[jovial quail]

I'm doing it in game right now

it's fking fast

[long wharf]

how?

[robust geyser]

read up, he literally said how to do it

[long wharf]

I tried to do it earlier and couldn't get it to go that fast

[celest oar]

^

[robust geyser]

probs amacro

[celest oar]

you can do it without macro, but prepare to break your fingers

[paper trail]

Can you make a clip of it working? Am curious if it only works on LMB or secondary too and if its like instant damage proc or shoots LMB projectiles or how it works exactly

[celest oar]

i have never seen this blessing before lolz

[manic needle]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1988932521653934985/6CAEE84A65459BEEEA8C121D56EF374B5D15EE7B/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false
Think this staff is worth spending a bunch of resources on to re-bless for something like Terrifying Barrage?

[long wharf]

I definitely can't get it to work as fast as that video shows

[celest oar]

you need a macro or alot of practice to get that close

this works for both lmb and rmb, just hold down rmb when you want to use the secondary fire

[long wharf]

I wonder if it's not working for me because I rebound reload to a button on my mouse

which has me thinking it's definitely a bug and will get addressed

[manic needle]

I doubt staffs not generating peril and firing incredibly fast is an intended mechanic

[static epoch]

cool

[long wharf]

nope, still not getting it to work

[sacred lodge]

Yaaaaay, all I have left are the general psyker penances and the heresy difficulty ones.

Almost have a cool looking psyker

[manic needle]

Someday Ill get a group for my heresy penances. Someday.

[sacred lodge]

Yeah I’m not even touching those without a friend

At least not malleus monstorum

[manic needle]

Honestly the easier one to do with a Shield Ogryn

[paper trail]

just wait for private lobby and let the bots die

[sacred lodge]

Also I just realized my friend plays zealot (a… scottish? One at that) and I play a psyker. The back and forth’ll be fun

Think she’s trying to cosplay a sister of battle too

[jovial quail]

Lmao I crashed a guys game doing the voidstrike spam animation cancel

[ebon jolt]

Surge: If you crit, the staff does one additional non-crit damage instance on the target. It does the damage to the same part of the body (can weakspot). It cannot crit. Same damage as base non-crit hit depending on right click charge. Works on both left and right click.

[jovial quail]

This is amazing

[teal cargo]

more like Khorne worshiper 🤑

[jovial quail]

It literally turns your entire screen white

[paper trail]

Is it only LMB or secondaey fire as well? And does the extra hit duplicate the damage of the secondary or add a LMB tick?

[ebon jolt]

Both. Same damage as base non-crit hit depending on right click charge.

So if you hold right click all the way it will do the same damage as a non-crit full charge right click.

[paper trail]

Thats an amazing perk. Is this perk only on voidstrike staff? How have I never seen this on any staff. I buy every staff that appears in my shop

When did you get yours?

[ebon jolt]

Not sure. I only have it on Void and I've only seen other people get it on void. It sounds better than it is. Everything you meant to kill will already be dead anyways. You want to pair it with the blessing that gives crit on high peril but you'd miss out on quell on weakspot if you built it that way.

[ebon jolt]

Middle of last week.

I think it would work well on the surge staff but won't be able to test that out until they release more crafting options.

[paper trail]

Quell on weakspot isnt on any of mine currently Id honestly rather have the damage

I mean if it cant roll on the surge staff you wont be able to put it on it surely

[ebon jolt]

But it's excess damage. You use void to clear mobs. If you have high damage and the right perks everything dies anyways.

Or you just hold right click until you know it will kill something. A bit of extra charge to remove randomness.

[paper trail]

I still want it

Really confused how it even exists at this point

[ebon jolt]

Wasn't in the data mine and it's hard to roll tier four blessings on one specific weapon for one class?

It may also be good on purgatus staff if the extra shot applies burn allowing you to achieve max burn stats faster? Would be cool.

Probably better for Trauma as well. Basically anything but void.

[vital bough]

Mix this blessing with Crit Chance scaling with Peril and it'd be really strong probably

[twilit path]

Any Psykers here with a Surge staff wanna help me get Just a Flesh Wound?

[celest oar]

time to crash more

[jovial quail]

@celest oar I had to quit, it was bringing everyones FPS down to like 3 and crashing that one poor guy lol

[celest oar]

it shouldnt be doing that unless they have pretty bad PCs

[jovial quail]

The only utility of it imo is stunlocking the hell out of stuff but still the fact that it can do that while also having ad clearer kinda raises its point in my book

I still think purg is significantly better overall

but its definitely better than I gave it credit for

[celest oar]

you can sprint cancel on purg staff

[restive slate]

I didn't know about anim cancels on staffs, tell me more pls!

[celest oar]

theres quell cancel and sprint cancel

if you cancel any attack animation before it ends, you dont blow up even at 100% peril

which means you can full charge a purg staff at 100% peril, wait till its about to end and then sprint cancel it and not blow up

you can do the same for surge

quell cancel is meant for primary attacks and voidstrike

[restive slate]

Ahhh I think I get it thanks, not sure about the void one though

Maybe gotta test it

[celest oar]

press r when the bolt leaves the staff

[celest oar]

@restive slate

[restive slate]

Okies will try that

[unborn quest]

sorry 2 interrupt but why am I seeing empty msges? xD

[jovial quail]

@celest oar You can also stay at 100% basically infinitely with purg, even if you're at 99% and you full charge, as long as you R to quell just a tidbit off you wont blow up

[celest oar]

you have been possesed by a daemon, its time to enact anti-manifestation protocols

[jovial quail]

like right before it finishes

[celest oar]

but you cant do that with surge 🤣

[jovial quail]

Lol yea it has to be like 80% or you just insta explode sometimes haha, found that out the hardway after the last update

You can sorta do it with light charge spams but then... its kinda meh lol

[subtle monolith]

hey btw I found a bug with purge staff

the same bug as with the lightning one

endless peril and no explode

just press sprint button right at the end

[celest oar]

yea, mentioned it just now

[subtle monolith]

lol

[cyan notch]

you can just press quell before it ends

[subtle monolith]

what a coincidence

[runic hornet]

How tight is the window for that?

[celest oar]

seems like a bout of lazy programming

[runic hornet]

Because infinite perils would make trauma staff a lot more viable

[celest oar]

as long as you do it before the bar finishes

trauma eh? havent tested that..

do i even have a trauma staff lolz

[long wharf]

trauma would still suffer the issue of wanting to get the max blast radius

[runic hornet]

wait, so it only works on min charge?

i'm trying to figure out how this works

[long wharf]

you're attacking as fast as possible

[celest oar]

sprint cancel works on full charge

but it dosent work with projectile based attacks

[runic hornet]

so you just let it rip, then instantly sprint after?

[celest oar]

thoese will instantly blow you up

[celest oar]

@runic hornet

sec let me record a purge

[green radish]

ey, if you absolutely, positively needed to get rid of a swarm sitting in front of you and your team, Purgatus Staff(flames) or Surge Force(lighting)? I know the obvious answer is voidstrike, but sometimes you need a change of pace

[runic hornet]

purgatus

Surge does its "main" damage to 2 mobs, chains to like up to 6 more. It does pitiful damage to unarmored and infested, but absolutely demolishes flak.

[teal cargo]

Purgatus is way better

for hordes

[green radish]

the emperor thanks you both for your contribution to my poor decision making skills

[teal cargo]

Surge like hits 5 or 6 targets

so its kinda bad

[long wharf]

it's not "kinda bad" at all

[teal cargo]

for that purpose

[runic hornet]

Every time I see a psyker spamming surge staff into poxwalkers I want to cry

[jade geode]

Surge is awful for Horde Clear, and I say that with all love for it as one of my favorite staves to use.

[runic hornet]

a basic mk1 sword is way better horde dps

[teal cargo]

fine not kinda bad, awful

[long wharf]

surge isn't for clearing a horde (by itself)

[teal cargo]

spamming surge into pox walkers is ☠️

[jade geode]

I'll sometimes use it if someone is surrounded by 4-5 mobs on different sides, just because it keeps them from hitting my teammate, but for hordes.. it's awful.

[runic hornet]

okay, how does this "cancel at full perils" work

if I click @ 100% charge I use the ability, and then I enter hte exploding animation

[tardy flower]

you report it to the devs, then you wait for it to be fixed

that's how it works

[unborn hare]

Apologies for just dropping this but I'm so sick of griefing every lobby I join trying to get Going out with a Bang. Is it really just suicide and pray when you see 3 ragers? I cannot for the life of me get this stupid thing

[teal cargo]

yep

[runic hornet]

p. much

[unborn hare]

jesus

[runic hornet]

it's a dumb achievement and people who are obviously trying to farm it in quickplay lobbies are the worst, just behind the vets

okay so a min charge surge staff does 55 damage to two poxwalkers

lmfao

yeah it's so bad for horde clear

[unborn hare]

I genuinely feel like I'm ruining peoples games and it's the only way I can progress anything anymore

[jade geode]

Yyyyyup

[long wharf]

again, surge isn't for horde clearing

[teal cargo]

hmmm worth upgrading?

[celest oar]

sprint before the bar finishes

[tardy flower]

no

[long wharf]

no.

[celest oar]

no