psyker-class

[ruby merlin]

I'm not watching that guide lol

[magic hull]

if you actually use auto spin on purgatus and is being surrounded by a horde from all side. You will be able to stagger all of them

cool fact

[ruby merlin]

But hey, shhh peril block and toughness on passive quell isn't being looked at, win!

[analog juniper]

Dude is using kinetic overload

imagine

[shut thorn]

His items are sub 400 and he insists you use cat/dueling, doesnt even mention antax

[ruby merlin]

Rip

Although we get secret tech, guess we're okay 😄

[grizzled iris]

What is the featured build?

[lethal plover]

I will believe knowledge on how to play psyker is mainstream once chocob j_sat or indypride talks about peril axe

[cyan notch]

i just realised your camera sway is at max or something thats crazy

[shut thorn]

yeah but, only like 10%? or so of people come here

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Probably way way less

[shut thorn]

10% is prob too much

[ruby merlin]

Like reddit is usually 1% of a playerbase at most

I doubt discord beats it

[shut thorn]

wtf does reddit even say

[ruby merlin]

Reddit actually talked about the antax axe

[cyan notch]

give crafting

[idle shuttle]

@lethal plover mind posting stats on that axe?

[shut thorn]

last time I looked there I just closed it because they were vouching for reconn lasguns off of some ytber's vid

[ruby merlin]

It was day 2 of beta where someone there clued me onto brutal momentum.

@shut thorn I think it got a lot worse there post launch haha.

[lethal plover]

shit axe, no momentum

[tight saddle]

of course reddit is going to catch on to the most braindead easy least effort to win stuff, they'll be using mkv in Malice lol

[analog juniper]

That axe is never going to make me stop using the force sword. Not even the 2km dodge range on the duelling swords made me swap

[shut thorn]

what happened to music theory or w/e his name was btw

[gray island]

Siblings. They’re onto me

[idle shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051452399379816499/image.png

[random wolf]

It doesn't block bullets? Dead to me.

[idle shuttle]

momentum?

[shut thorn]

vets lurk this chat 24/7

they're jealous

[lethal plover]

brutal momentum

[shut thorn]

their krieg larp isn't viable

[random wolf]

I play all 4 and don't get the antagonists.

[idle shuttle]

oh shit like mine

[ruby merlin]

sliding ignores bullets, and is way cooler.

[tight saddle]

my only axe that I used briefly and fell asleep with

[random wolf]

If anything I'm familiar with all 4 to a degree where I know what they roughly want from each other.

[shut thorn]

the featured build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCgvDFx34fU

🙄

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle the anti injury weapon, simple, low stress, lets you scan the enviroment for actual threats, perfect for damnation.

[random wolf]

I don't wanna watch it.

[ruby merlin]

Not giving it views yeah XD

[shut thorn]

his items are sub 400

[random wolf]

It's gonna taint my recommendations

[shut thorn]

i was annoyed w/ it when I saw it in the launcher

[tacit fractal]

Taint?

[random wolf]

Tl;dr get a good team carry you and make you look good

Influencer benefits am I right

[analog juniper]

plus non force weapon

[ruby merlin]

@lethal plover post that clip you had on damnation yesterday where you were casually spamming the axe while scanning for all the actual threats if you can.

[random wolf]

Amen my friend.

[shut thorn]

i dont think he's even playing t5 in the footage

[ruby merlin]

IMO that's the best example I've seen of why the axe is so good.

[shut thorn]

the pyramid scheme feat tree

[tight saddle]

we're watching it for the 100th time now?

[gray island]

Honestly looks kinda fun

[ruby merlin]

XD

[tight saddle]

not that the clip is bad or anything lol

[eager crescent]

What lvl do u unlock the lighting staff now

[analog juniper]

this is useless

[shut thorn]

5 lmao

or was it 8

[lethal plover]

sorry for posting it again

[tacit fractal]

Did they actually not detail it what difficulty it was on?

[eager crescent]

must b 8 cuz im 7 atm and unlocked the surge staff at 5

[shut thorn]

its just suspect cuz of the high amt off dmg he's doing

[shut thorn]

w/ pretty subpar weps

[analog juniper]

claims its for damnation

[shut thorn]

i would not run that in t5

[idle shuttle]

what makes the pushblock on the antax different than others?

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn I mean they're probably in a full premade, the shittiest build works in a full premade

[analog juniper]

I mean the passive quell toughness regen is alright

[tacit fractal]

Wide sweeps

[ruby merlin]

@idle shuttle Cleaves even with no perk.

and horizontal sweeps yes

[idle shuttle]

i mean the pushblock

but okay

[lethal plover]

cleaves, and axe can deal with armor too

[idle shuttle]

on swipes

[tight saddle]

yeah Damnation is stupid easy in a premade group (of good players), you can run the worst everything on every class and do it easily.

[ruby merlin]

Yes, the push block cleaves.

[analog juniper]

but the BB ult and SoulFlame on warp stacks are highly questionable choices

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle someone should troll it lol

[shut thorn]

the block push combo cleaves with respectable dmg

[gray island]

I mean I feel like if you’re actively brain bursting you could get something out of it. I typically run 321133, but the 10% chance to brain burst is only useful for keeping stacks if you aren’t actively trying to brain burst

[tacit fractal]

Cetea you know there’s a reply system in Discord since like 2019?

[shut thorn]

its a bad weapon on other classes but on psyker its great cuz we can spam it

[ruby merlin]

Have a pistol psyker using some tactical axe.

[tight saddle]

in the beta people did Damnation on lvl 10-15 characters, you know... THOSE VT2 players lmfao

[ruby merlin]

Yep, that was fun though

[analog juniper]

bruh, go into the Psykanium and see how much damage that thing does. It's very pointless

[ruby merlin]

J_sat is always awesome to watch

@tacit fractal reply requires me to click with my mouse, unless there's some /r thing I'm missing.

[idle shuttle]

what lets us spam it and not them? is this just when using the peril perk?

which Ill miss the gained toughness per charge if I'm moving to that

[ruby merlin]

Peril block yes, hit on 0 stam? No problem, no stagger

it's good on any class of course.

[lethal plover]

Yes we use no stamina anyway

[grizzled iris]

Okay, the featured build gave me cancer.
Crit dmg surge staff, maniac dmg specced devils claw.

Soulblaze on singular target on warp charge gain... Wow

And just your typical T1 BB spammer

[ruby merlin]

Soulblaze is lol right now, just for pretty effects.

If you are going for penances, by all means bb spam

[gray island]

Not by my comp atm but I’ll take your word on it. 3 is definitely the most useful but in general none of the 3 are that essential. So fuck it why not light some mobs up for the hell of it

[shut thorn]

oh ye he doesnt even have penance gear

[ruby merlin]

But yes someone should make a troll build. Tactical axe, laspistol

[analog juniper]

you can use the soulblaze ult feat if you are using purgatus, but the other soulblaze feats are memes

[ruby merlin]

and do damnation

then post a 'guide'

[shut thorn]

tactical axe and revolver w/ low dmg roll

[ruby merlin]

run shitty perks for laughs

[idle shuttle]

soulblaze is great when in that lights out modification

: )

you can see pretty fire

[grizzled iris]

If at max warp charges put a 4 stack on 1 enemy if another charge is gained.
How about this? Get 6 stacks and use the second ult talent and apply 6 to an entire horde instead??

[ruby merlin]

Free flashlight, OP!!

[shut thorn]

open nvidia control panel
Gamma: 3.00

[tacit fractal]

Why would it be funny?

[shut thorn]

night vision

[tight saddle]

I had Psychic Communion, Kinetic Overload, and Blaze with Purg in a Damnation run and BY PURE LUCK Kinetic Overload just so happened to chain kill 8+ elites when I wasn't even looking at them dealing with a Horde on the opposite side. The Vet shouted asking wtf that was seeing the kill feed, and I didn't want to tell him it was just pure stupid RNG and it's not something that's actually good.

[ruby merlin]

Because people will follow it because it's a 'damnation guide'.

And then think it's meta or something.

[idle shuttle]

speaking of nvidia control panel... is SLI gone <.<

[cyan notch]

yes

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle That's awesome haha, gj

Make them green with envy

[shut thorn]

just out of curiosity, why didn't fatshark ask someone here for a build

Genuinely??

[cyan notch]

cuz we are nobodies

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Maybe they know we have OP stuff, and we get to keep it 😛

[random wolf]

I got this earlier from the shop. Not sure why I got it other than the fact that it was 380

[shut thorn]

i have no idea who that ytber is

[pallid dock]

so. DO we have any halfway decently researched and documented build advices?

[cyan notch]

theyre all vt2 content creators

[grizzled iris]

Sadly not a MK V

[ruby merlin]

@pallid dock the meta is more or less figured out atm.

[shut thorn]

I don't rlly watch game ytbers because they're usually subpar in comparison to avg player

[subtle monolith]

best level 15 feat?

[grizzled iris]

Yes, void staff, purgatus or support surge

[tacit fractal]

Antax mk V is the one to go for

[subtle monolith]

can anyone tell?

[ruby merlin]

@pallid dock https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1051486364421603409/darktide_damnation_attention_tax.mp4

[tacit fractal]

Are lvl 15 rn?

[ruby merlin]

From @lethal plover

[random wolf]

I know lmao. I have weird 380s

[tight saddle]

devs always know better than the players, haven't you been following game design the past decade? but the real answer is they balance to what can potentially sell more to casual players that'll spend money, because balancing for sweaty tryhard good players isn't proftable since they don't spend as much as a group given how small that fraction of players is.

[random wolf]

Likea Chain Axe at 380

[subtle monolith]

gonna get in 1 mission

[tight saddle]

so that build will excite casual players

[idle shuttle]

antax only, palpatine rod only - a psyker guide

[grizzled iris]

Say no more...

[cyan notch]

thats up to you but im just saying thats why they picked em cuz they are long time vt2 content creators who have been featured before etc

[tacit fractal]

1st one

[ruby merlin]

@idle shuttle running fire isn't bad either. Or even void with animation cancel. Or trauma.

Staffs are just good

Staves?

[idle shuttle]

fire is good

[ruby merlin]

No autocorrect on either.

[grizzled iris]

Staves

[idle shuttle]

I tried machinegun voidi

[tacit fractal]

Staves

[pallid dock]

staves and staffs is both valid.

[cyan notch]

steves

[ruby merlin]

Steves are good 😛

[analog juniper]

staves

[grizzled iris]

Opinions on Trauma staff?

[ruby merlin]

Yeah think I've seen both used.

@grizzled iris It can send stuff flying around in hilarious ways, and sounds nice.

[tacit fractal]

Staves is the correct term, other one sounds too american broken english

[shut thorn]

aiming needs to be fixed, peril needs to be fixed, remove the annoying no damage window on rmb

[ruby merlin]

Language shifts, you should look at medieval spellings 😛

[tight saddle]

usable, hard to get the hang of, most people will suck with it, but it's not as bad as people make it seem. It's definitely not the best staff.

[analog juniper]

the least useful staff

[idle shuttle]

ye olde english

[drowsy fog]

purgatus my beloved

[orchid nest]

trauma is a few easy fixes/changes away from being good. hopefully they do it in next weeks patch here

[ruby merlin]

If it costs less peril it could be so fun.

[pallid dock]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/staff both valid. you are welcome.

[shut thorn]

I'm sad that purgatus got that giant nerf after release

[ruby merlin]

Just spamming those high damage aoes everywhere.

[shut thorn]

Where it no longer crashes RTX people if you aim it at their face

[ruby merlin]

XD

[shut thorn]

They stole our tools........

[tight saddle]

what was the nerf? I never used it in beta besides when I first unlocked it

[grizzled iris]

I'm an rtx user but i still find that hilarious

[ruby merlin]

It was a larger cone I think

[drowsy fog]

sitting here watch you all discuss meta and im just happy I got malleus and not even close immediately after 🙂

[shut thorn]

I'm memeing, you used to be able to crash people with rtx cards by aiming the flame in their face or at their feet

[ruby merlin]

More comparable to the flamer.

[tacit fractal]

It just sounds like broken english to me so I’ll stick with staves thanks and no thanks for that link :)

[ruby merlin]

I think it actually got a nerf via stats too

[tight saddle]

lmfao amazing

[shut thorn]

No just the visual particle was reduced in size to prevent the crash

[ruby merlin]

Typical Imperium fan, Chronostrife mentality lol 😛

@shut thorn Ah gotcha.

[magic hull]

what did u use to increase BB timing

[ruby merlin]

Just a feel thing then, I didn't use fire staffs much.

@magic hull Ultimate

[tacit fractal]

There isn’t one

[ruby merlin]

level 30 bottom perk

[magic hull]

ah ye

[ruby merlin]

I think he meant decrease

[magic hull]

i rmb now

yeh decrease

[tacit fractal]

Oh wait you meant bb not warp charge lol

[shut thorn]

ngl i hope for a force greatsword, power sword being moved to vet was kinda ehh

luckily we have antax mk v

[magic hull]

usually this my build with purga

because i also rely on BB

and soul blaze

[ruby merlin]

I hope the force greatsword is kinda a dps machine.

[tacit fractal]

Tf am I looking at

[patent hatch]

Wrack and ruin kinda bad idk

[ruby merlin]

Less of a res bot machine 😛

[primal aurora]

I have a weird question - are astropaths psykers?

[drowsy fog]

that sounds wonderful

[pallid dock]

yes

[shut thorn]

I just want a force weapon with a horde clear that doesn't involve carpal tunnel

[magic hull]

not rlly

i enjoy it

[patent hatch]

I run 2,1,1,3,1,2

[ruby merlin]

@magic hull You don't have our strongest perk in peril block, but anything works since the game is easy atm anyway.

[shut thorn]

old lore, no, new lore, yes

[random wolf]

Light > Heavy > wait > Repeat isn't ba

For Force Sword

[drowsy fog]

had no idea the axe was so good, still not gonna use it tho cuz im aesthetically allergic to axes

[ruby merlin]

@random wolf gotta animation cancel with block there to be optimal.

[shut thorn]

this

[tacit fractal]

Soulblaze is only strong against atleast poxwalkers when it’s 4 stacks of soulblaze not 2 because of the tick damage being God-Emperor awful

[magic hull]

usually i could go for psykinetic wrath, but my purga has done more than enough and not much of a difference

[analog juniper]

quell and move is pointless. You can move faster if you quell with the staff. also kinetic deflection is a must use

[shut thorn]

Honestly what's the point of force sword quelling anyw

Passive is faster

[ruby merlin]

Force sword quell is nerfed lol

to make the manual quell have value

[random wolf]

👌

[ruby merlin]

RIP force sword

[tacit fractal]

It’s still a fun weapon ngl

[patent hatch]

Only if you use force sword

[analog juniper]

its nice

[ruby merlin]

Yeah it has nice graphics and sounds.

[shut thorn]

I just wanna tank with FS properly

[gray island]

Atrax quell is faster than both

[ruby merlin]

But it's like the worst melee tank due to the passive quell speed.

@gray island Yep I know haha

[magic hull]

it kinda encourages me to BB ranged elites from far away thats why i enjoyed it

[analog juniper]

it works with all melee

but the bullet blocking is only on FS

[patent hatch]

Not worth it unless you have deflector

[shut thorn]

yet again why is deflector not vanilla on it

[patent hatch]

I mean it’s good with the axe ig but apart from that just no

[gray island]

2 push 2 cool

[ruby merlin]

@gray island Basically from my perspective force sword makes you the least 'super natural' like of any weapon, since you become this clunky squishy psyker instead of a melee tank/dodge god that can perma block.

Sure you can cc with the force sword, but staves are better for cc anyway.

[magic hull]

nope, you can walk slightly faster while quelling staffs too. I also enjoy BB and quelling-walking.

[shut thorn]

It's honestly hilarious how a random axe is better than a force sword

[tacit fractal]

That is a bad way to encourage yourself cause the bigger encouragement should be the warp charges you actually get since wrack and ruin does nonexistant changing combat quality damage

[orchid nest]

I know the common narrative is the quell speeds are intended as they are between fs/normal weapons but I honestly think how it is might just be a leftover bug from when they "fixed" the bugged quell rates at the beginning of the beta

[gray island]

I play FS primarily, mine doesn’t even have deflector. It’s my dodge lifestyle. I whip out the axe for damnation though just for more reliable horde clear

[analog juniper]

but you can oneshot mutants and block a horde while rezzing. If you have deflection, you can block bullets too

[magic hull]

actually it does for me

and i enjoyed it

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Dueling swords are better too, but at least they're also fashionable haha

@analog juniper one axe hit does 1k damage on a mutant.

[atomic walrus]

it feels like psyker loses a ton of value in higher diff

[tacit fractal]

What difficulty do you play on? I have to ask for obvious curious reasons

[shut thorn]

they make more sense than psykers carrying logging axes around

[ruby merlin]

and is much faster + is safe, no animation locks.

[tacit fractal]

With the right build no

[magic hull]

T4

[shut thorn]

Big E should've carried a random steel axe tbh

[analog juniper]

I do 2k+ dmg

[magic hull]

i use BB and purga very commonly

[ruby merlin]

@analog juniper the dps on the axe is 1.2k dps per sec

force sword, include the charge up time

is slower

[gray island]

I have to disagree. I believe Zealot takes the biggest L on higher dif. Especially knife zealots who don’t understand what coherency is

[ruby merlin]

that's just a fact

bigger number sure

[shut thorn]

if only there was a way to cancel the charge up anim

[tacit fractal]

Okay that explains it, you don’t need to be that heavily efficient then

[lethal plover]

Force sword is very good at landing special on a zombie next to the mutant

[cyan notch]

user issue

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Yeah for sure, animation cancel both the charge up and the hit animation, and the skill on it would go way up I feel.

[magic hull]

nah my build is effecient idk what u mean lol

[shut thorn]

knife zealots gotta go fast

[magic hull]

may not be 100% but it works

[shut thorn]

animation cancel every cd on it tbh.......

[ruby merlin]

I would love that

[gray island]

Die just as fast. Buts it’s for the emprah so it’s okay

[ruby merlin]

And give it the normal passive quell please

[shut thorn]

you know what wud be amazing?

[magic hull]

I have tried running other feats, this just works for my playstyle

[ruby merlin]

then it makes sense why we pay for that clunky horde clear for the cool factor.

[shut thorn]

if not picking the peril dmg perk

gave u passive quell

thats proper

[drowsy fog]

ran into a zealot named karen earlier, felt fitting. They were actually pretty solid tho

[ruby merlin]

Ooooh yeah. They could make the force sword super fun for sure.

[patent hatch]

Tbh Knife Psyker is best

[magic hull]

also ascendant blaze is pretty nice to stack extra soul blaze on hordes

[ruby merlin]

Anyway, time to head off, have fun talking psyker tech everyone 😄

[shut thorn]

cya

[magic hull]

its got ranged at high radius

i kinda enjoyed it

[tacit fractal]

If you have Purgatus ascendant blaze is useless

[gray island]

What do you run on knife since bleed doesn’t have any synergy

[magic hull]

nah

the only thing that is useless is if you dont know how to use it

high-intensity its pretty usefull

[analog juniper]

it's the only good soulflame perk, but even then I wouldnt use it without purgatus tbh. Cause that dmg on it's own isnt super high

I've been using quicken these days

so you can spam F for peril venting

[shut thorn]

Btw was qq click for fs fixed or does it still work

[magic hull]

i use it as extra flame when i don't have enough time. say if theres a huge horde thats behind me and im out of purga range. I turn 180 around quickly, blaze them. Resume back to the other half

works rlly nice

[tacit fractal]

Do you get warp charges when Purgatus soulblaze kills an enemy when you’ve applied ascendant blaze soulblaze or am I having a stroke?

Cause that shit don’t stack right?

[analog juniper]

the former

any soulblaze kills

[flint sky]

Difficulty? Soulblaze ticks are terrible

[tacit fractal]

T4 apparently

Heresy

[magic hull]

good build for t4

[analog juniper]

so its like having 2 kinetic flayers on

[magic hull]

i like it

[tacit fractal]

Which is ehh?

[orchid nest]

should still work. as well as bb cancel

[analog juniper]

it's alright

[tacit fractal]

Fair

[flint sky]

It's very meh

[drowsy fog]

what sort of curios do you folks run

[flint sky]

Especially when you have the speed up dps on bb at the same tier

[magic hull]

wat? its great

[magic hull]

i run alot of wounds Xd

[flint sky]

HP as toughness is irrelevant thanks to tick damage

[tacit fractal]

It’s just upsetting that Wrack and Ruin is mediocre at best compared to Inner Tranq

[gray island]

If you stack ability cooldown curios it might make it more viable but I doubt there would ever be enough cursor buffs to make it reliably spammable

[tight saddle]

Wounds are useless even in Damnation

[flint sky]

Block efficiency for deflector fs is nice

[tight saddle]

maybe bringing 1 for QoL, but even then

[flint sky]

Planning for failure is

[magic hull]

nah its nice

[tight saddle]

build so you won't go down, not build to expect going down

[magic hull]

still building that

[shut thorn]

btw is there a max on health curio stacking?

[magic hull]

rn thats like my placeholder

[shut thorn]

I remember someone saying 30%

[magic hull]

unless u can give me ur curio thatd be nice

[flint sky]

Building worse

[flint sky]

Highest I have is 22

[magic hull]

worse wat

[tight saddle]

I'm scared to make it orange and get a bad perk

[analog juniper]

dont

wait for 20% toughness

[tacit fractal]

Do not

Hope for 22 or 20 toughness

[flint sky]

Toughness is dump stat outside of veteran

[tacit fractal]

You get that shit fast with Psyker

[flint sky]

And that's only good thanks to his talent that reduces toughness loss to ranged when in F ability

Let's him maul ranged hordes

[drowsy fog]

oh? my thinking was boost toughness cuz it comes back so it goes farther

[flint sky]

Meh psyker quell toughness is cracked no need for passive regen

[tacit fractal]

Ye

That true

[flint sky]

Just stack hp for survivability

[tight saddle]

I've stacked toughness and stacked health in Damnation flipping between the two and idk I personally didn't feel that big of a difference

[atomic walrus]

anyone recommending a good build for psyker 4 diff

and any reccomendations to get the ''solo monstrocity on hersy'' penance

[random wolf]

Show us what you have first.

[cyan notch]

stack whatever rng shop sells

[atomic walrus]

im dying over here

[random wolf]

Or what weapons you want to use.

[tired estuary]

stack damage on enemies

[drowsy fog]

whats the weight bewteen warp absorption and quietude

[flint sky]

Hp is just a cushion for when you fuck up

[tight saddle]

my opinion is to stack toughness if you struggle against ranged and stack health if you struggle against bombers

everything else is whatever to me

[cyan notch]

shop guy selling this so im taking it

[flint sky]

Ranged shouldnt really be a problem for psyker and one ranged burst regardless knocks toughness

Deflector force sword with kinetic let's you block ranged

[atomic walrus]

im running purgatorus staff so range does damage me

[flint sky]

At the cost of peril

[tacit fractal]

The fast bb last feat, quietitude and 6 stacks of warp charge. Get an Ogryn with slab shield to help, go kill a daemonhost

[cyan notch]

you also get less toughness from the same % increase cuz toughness is only 100 while health is 150

[flint sky]

This man fucks

[tacit fractal]

Ty

[subtle monolith]

is purge viable guys?

[flint sky]

Still better to have hp. One burst knocks toughness out

[tacit fractal]

It’s fun

[flint sky]

Yes

[atomic walrus]

dont have any friends who plays ogryn sadly

[flint sky]

Least viable of the surge void purge trifecta imo but solid enough

[tight saddle]

that's why I said if someone struggles with it, and stacking gunner resist is delicious

the beauty of DT and VT2 is how much freedom you have to bring whatever and still do extremely well

[flint sky]

Gunner is one specific type of ranged enemy

Not really worth focusing

Especially when 1 bb kills them at every diff

[tight saddle]

yeah and the main threat from ranged stacks

[tacit fractal]

Lfg here in the server bruv, you can aggro the daemonhost by being the closest and first one to deal/attack it so let that be Ogryn’s job meanwhile you just chill next to it while the Ogryn is in a corner getting ape’d without taking damage

[tight saddle]

especially where there 8 and shit

[flint sky]

That's what your las vet is for

Unless god forbid you only pub

[tight saddle]

solo quickplay doesn't guarantee a vet, and even then a good one at that

[floral palm]

I love how the only high rated weapons in my shop are autoguns

[tight saddle]

If we're talking about coordinated premade groups then Damnation is a joke and nothing matters, you can bring whatever

[flint sky]

Please get some friends I've never met a single asshole through lfgs in this server

[subtle monolith]

wait what

[drowsy fog]

shop roll a staff challenge: impossible

[subtle monolith]

fucking true

[random wolf]

Not on the surface.

[flint sky]

If you want I'm in an lfg server with good players I can invite you too

[subtle monolith]

I got like 3 void staffs

cant get the electric one

[random wolf]

I've seen someone say Ogryns were butt ugly and there were no ways to make them cool

[floral palm]

I get staffs but theyre all garbage tier

[random wolf]

And they deserved to be ugly.

[tacit fractal]

@atomic walrus btw what I recommended is easy, I fought against a Plague Ogryn alone while few trappers and mutants attacked me at the same time meanwhile my teammates were in the front chillin and killin the hordes lmao

[tight saddle]

for people that have a lot of experience playing a lot of Vermintide 2's modded higher difficulties or even just the Damnation equivalent for hundreds or thousands of hours, then Damnation in Darktide is super easy.

[flint sky]

It is. With a competent team it's quite hard to wipe

[atomic walrus]

last question, what LFG is steam?

[random wolf]

I've seen at least 5 players boast about playing Cata in VT2 only to die in malice and/or cause wipes via domino effect.

So now I'm super wary lmao

[flint sky]

Heresy endless horde is unironically harder at times thanks to disabler spam

[floral palm]

Unpopular opinion: Your Vermintide experience means almost nothing in Darktide as they play too differently.

[flint sky]

lol

[drowsy fog]

cant remember the last time I booted up vermintide

[random wolf]

Cockiness causes death to gunner squads

[tight saddle]

that's why I prefer solo quickplay Damnation, it's much more intense with constant variables changing on the fly forcing me to adapt and think outside of the box given the new set of fucked up shit I have to deal with on the fly. Even if I fail with a bad team I don't care since it was fun af.

[random wolf]

When they forget guns exist.

[flint sky]

Unpopular opinion for a good reason

[random wolf]

[flint sky]

Why would you forget about the best weapons in the game? When everyone is kerillian no one is

[random wolf]

I was happy playing Kruber with his rifle thank you very much

[tight saddle]

Do you seriously believe that?

[floral palm]

The amount of veterans called Kerillian is nuts

[flint sky]

Na its bait

[elfin crystal]

Yeah I love the constant variable changing of people disconnecting everytime they die only to be replaced by a bot and then another player

[random wolf]

Either way it's a shortcut to melee mechanics and the way of thinking vs specials if you're a VT2 vet

[tight saddle]

I don't mind it

[elfin crystal]

Oh wait solo

My bad

[random wolf]

But the way you solve these problems are still different

[floral palm]

I believe it to an extent. As Vermintide I was never very good due to melee reliance. While in Darktide im pubbing the 5 difficulty missions with ease because GUN

[cyan notch]

yes our ranged options in darktide are extremely strong

[elfin crystal]

I don't mind it either. Just find it funny. It's like musical chair

Some of them yeah. Some are just Dookie tho

[analog juniper]

Constant variables such as 1 mutant per minute, and 2 dogs 1 mutant every 3 minutes

[tight saddle]

it's best when they leave as soon as they go down and the bots replaces them being alive, then when the bot goes down it gets replaced by a player and now they're alive again, 2 downs and you didn't have to go pick them up lmao

[elfin crystal]

You mean 6 mutants in a row

[analog juniper]

We had a match where they literally never stopped spawning mutants

From start to end

[drowsy fog]

got a bunch of flamers all at once earlier tonight, that was silly

[elfin crystal]

Yeah lol

Oof

[tight saddle]

yeah, but there's also the terrain to take into consideration, when and where other enemies are, where your teammates are, what your teammates are doing, what your teammates are using, etc. All that makes each experience a new unique scenario

[vestal finch]

I just had an epic all psyker game

Everyone except me was a Savant...

[drowsy fog]

those are the best

damn another garbage shop roll...

[vestal finch]

No Beloveds to be heard

[analog juniper]

I'm guessing you were the ***Kneel! Kneel!! *** guy

[vestal finch]

Yes, cretin, what else could I be?

[analog juniper]

Best match I've had so far was 4 psykers all with Surge staves

[random wolf]

FEAR ME FEAR ME

Ooops

[vestal finch]

We had 2 Surgeants, 1 Voidstriker and Me, the flamer

[analog juniper]

Though last night 3 voidstrikes was a vibe

I think 3 or 4 Purgatus might be interesting

But ranged enemies will be an issue

[drowsy fog]

voidstrike definitely satisfying and strong, cant bring myself to stop being a human flamethrower tho

[subtle monolith]

purge one

is that good?

[glass glen]

Anyone wanna help me get the kill a monstrosity with BB penance

[subtle monolith]

19% over time damage

Seems really bad

[drowsy fog]

cant read the language buuuut.... cloud radius is big thats good, you wont get a lot of damage variance on a purgatus so thats not much of a worry, the burn is really low tho

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-zamboni-on-fire-fire-flames-gif-21742661

is this you?

[glass glen]

Yes

It do be

[glass glen]

What level are you

[subtle monolith]

Does burn affect a lot?

[subtle monolith]

15

Dunno which talent to pick

[drowsy fog]

I have no idea if terrifying barrage is any good since the game doesnt really tell you what suppressing an enemy does so I cant look for the effect

[glass glen]

Yea it will be dog water till 30 tbh

[tight saddle]

weapons don't really matter as you level so just use whatever, you end up replacing them quickly as you level more, because the higher levle you are the higher stat weapons appear in the shop

[glass glen]

I’d buy it n see if you like it

[subtle monolith]

Oh i also got this

[glass glen]

Then at 30 decide which staff you like

[drowsy fog]

pick whatever you like but I recommend psychic communion, the top one

[glass glen]

I rock the flame staff

[analog juniper]

not really. You'll want base stats closer to these

[drowsy fog]

dude rolled 5 staves in the shop wtf

[glass glen]

I’d use that till 30 ngl

[random wolf]

My personal Purgatus

[subtle monolith]

passive says:10%+ damage to non armored enemies

[patent hatch]

Literally just for the mov speed

[glass glen]

Use it till 30

[subtle monolith]

this is an electric one

[drowsy fog]

lol only notable difference mine has is 17% less resistance

[shadow quail]

lol really struggling with some of the players today, match after match of players dropping medkits right outside full medstations, one guy just dropped a medkit when he was the only one with any damage, then ran off and didn't even use the heal 🤦‍♂️

[glass glen]

People will love you if ya stun elites

[drowsy fog]

cloud radius on purgatus feels SO good when you find a bigger one

[glass glen]

It goes so far 😂

Start cross mapping

[analog juniper]

I also have this one

[drowsy fog]

I want a 100% cloud radius

[glass glen]

Don’t even think that’s possible

[drowsy fog]

my current one is 69% 😎

[glass glen]

If it is then gl

[subtle monolith]

nice

[analog juniper]

upgrade to legendary

never delete

[drowsy fog]

its already there lol

[woeful snow]

Nice blessing. I want to try out the purgatus staff, but there’s a comfort in surge while leveling.

[analog juniper]

lmao, now I want staves with all values at 69

[random wolf]

Fair. I use a Deflection Force Sword so I can afford to use Purgatus in relative safety

[glass glen]

Oof low burn

[drowsy fog]

yeahhhhh

could use better blessings too

[glass glen]

They ain’t bad

Warp nexus is meh

[analog juniper]

max dmg surge

[subtle monolith]

which one mates

[glass glen]

Depends

[subtle monolith]

leveling

[drowsy fog]

the one you've already selected bud

[analog juniper]

3, 2, 1

imo

the fire feats are bad

[patent hatch]

321 defo

[drowsy fog]

4% sounds like a low chance but with you and your team burning through hordes it'll pop often

[analog juniper]

other than the last one

[analog juniper]

do you use a force sword or no?

[drowsy fog]

why quiet over absorption?

[subtle monolith]

I would love to but there is non in fucking shop

[analog juniper]

then definitely 3

[glass glen]

They are bad anyway force swords are dog

[analog juniper]

staff isnt going to be killing a lot

[quiet locust]

my 150th mission (lifeleech 4) was also my 7/7 damnation mission. perfection

[glass glen]

Duelling swords are were its at

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[quiet locust]

psyker forever

[drowsy fog]

I like the force sword personally, I'd use a dueling sword but I never see a good one in the shop

[glass glen]

Duelling sword is good I hate the force swords

[subtle monolith]

I just tested purge

[floral palm]

force sword feels great for instapopping assassinations shield

[subtle monolith]

kinda mid damage

maybe it's because of 19% burn damage

[glass glen]

It will be till lv 30 when ya get a good one

[drowsy fog]

I mean I see it pop a lot but im asking out of genuine curiosity cuz I like them both

[analog juniper]

look at this lucky varlet. Max dmg and max crit?

[quiet locust]

80% burn is where it's at

[cyan notch]

whats the insignia look like

[glass glen]

n this is my other

[analog juniper]

burn without dmg is meaningless you know

burn affects the max stacks

[woeful snow]

Oh wait that was posted in the right chat. Damn

[drowsy fog]

but damage is percentage and as low as purgatus raw numbers are it really doesnt shift much

[quiet locust]

Is that not ideal? When everything takes 5 stacks to die in less than a day it helps to be able to burn everything forever

Five maulers/ragers at a time

[quiet locust]

Just the portrait frame

[quiet locust]

Isn't it possible to get a voidstrike staff that lowers peril on crit? Never had any luck getting one, but it sounds like the perfect staff

not crit, weak spot hit*

[drowsy fog]

yes

[analog juniper]

burn affects how many stacks of burn is on a target and how fast they are applied, but dmg affects how much dmg each tick is doing

[cyan notch]

yea

[subtle monolith]

nah purge is not good

[drowsy fog]

its called uh... transfer peril I think

[subtle monolith]

not enough damage to elites

takes too long

[atomic walrus]

whats the best stats on fire and surge staves

[subtle monolith]

I mean the one I have

gonna go with lightning

[glass glen]

Because your low lv

[drowsy fog]

purge is great

[glass glen]

Wait till your 30 they slap

[drowsy fog]

its for aoe

[random wolf]

A lot of weapons need high rolls to be noticeably good

Except for Surge

[quiet locust]

literally "purge" the heretic, come on

[random wolf]

Stun is good anyway

[subtle monolith]

does purge fire damage stacks with passive?

[drowsy fog]

surge is also good but cmon dont knock purge

[subtle monolith]

on level 15 that one with 4%?

[woeful snow]

This is true, makes it very reliable when leveling

[random wolf]

Voidstrike is when you wanna stop playing on EZ mode

And start aiming again lmao

[quiet locust]

Still seems like high burn would be incredibly useful. More stacks faster? Uh, yes please.

[errant otter]

lol just had 2 people refuse to pick me up out of spite..

[drowsy fog]

that 4% is a chance to gain a warp charge

[errant otter]

how much damage does someone have to have to throw the game

[drowsy fog]

and yes purge is affected by warp charges

[subtle monolith]

oh than it makes sense

oh thats only on kill

I thought it was just damage dealt

[analog juniper]

but without the dmg, you'll be doing 3 or less dmg per tick so not useful. Purge needs both burn and dmg to be good

[drowsy fog]

its when you or a nearby ally get a kill

[subtle monolith]

burn is really low on that weapon

like 19% is a joke

[drowsy fog]

yep

[glass glen]

Mmm the fun part in levelling

Weapons do 0 dmg

[drowsy fog]

you didnt roll a particularly good one, but thats just bad luck and also low level

remember your starting laspistol and how garbage it was? lol

[quiet locust]

My experiments in psykhanium disagree. That staff also carried me through many damnation missions (7/7, babyyy) but yeah having high burn AND high dmg would be ideal, but I'm more than satisfied

[sterile lake]

yes

[magic hull]

i shall diagnose you with skill issues, but hey, enjoy what works for u i guess

[lilac dune]

What’s the best type of staff in you guys’ opinion

[drowsy fog]

the one you enjoy the most

but as far as I see it
voidstrike for range
purgatus for aoe
surge for a middle ground
trauma for disruption

[vestal finch]

What a pathetic response.

The obvious answer is Purgatus Staff for all situations

[drowsy fog]

hush you people like things that arent always optimal

but yes purgatus is my favorite too lol

[tight saddle]

In this game different weapons specialize in dealing with different types of enemies, just because one weapons can't kill one type of enemy properly doesn't mean it sucks.

[vestal finch]

What a pathetic response

The Purgatus sucks, that's why I use it

[glass badge]

After using all of them extensively, all are good but my favorrite is Voidbolt. Good horde clear & range.

[raw breach]

I prefer Surge to stunlock the frontline for more of a control/support playstyle

[glass badge]

Another reason why i like voidbolt: Blinding and deafening my melee friends

[raw breach]

I tried Purge earlier tonight for a bit and it just didn't feel good for my playstyle, but I could see how people could enjoy it

[drowsy fog]

that'll show those uptight zealots lol

[random wolf]

"I'm out of ammo"

"Sucks to be you bro."

[glass badge]

Shouldnt have mag dumped your boltor into everything you see.

[drowsy fog]

sounds like a personal problem

[random wolf]

But yeah getting a chain of Voidstrike headshots

Also firing and peeking

You don't have to stay in the line of fire

[drowsy fog]

I just love melting entire hordes with my purgatus

[subtle monolith]

every fucking staff is a void staff

[random wolf]

Hop sideways, let it loose, charge back in cover

[subtle monolith]

I hate it already

[random wolf]

Because its good

You'll hate the Trauma staff more

[subtle monolith]

I want good purge

[random wolf]

[glass badge]

Same strat i use with headpopping.

[drowsy fog]

good luck getting anything "good" at level 15

[random wolf]

It's my only "complaint" for the Purgatus

You have to stay out

[drowsy fog]

its all just stuff to get you leveled

[glass badge]

And after getting a nice yellow/orange trauma from da emprah, its not too bad.

Just, other options are better

[subtle monolith]

I just want other ones(

[raw breach]

All I want is for Trauma staff to leave flame patches that apply soulblaze

[drowsy fog]

what specifically does finesse do on melee weapons

[glass badge]

Headshot & crit multiplier

[drowsy fog]

that sounds sick and also kinda busted

[glass badge]

If it could knock ogryn enemies on their ass, not fully charged, id call that a win

[raw breach]

It'd be just liek the Coruscation staff from Vermintide. It outclassed the Combustion staff in every way, which is what the Trauma staff is currently

[drowsy fog]

ok so is a 38% finesse increase worth a 21% damage drop on a force sword

[undone badge]

purgatus leaving fire patches would be nice

[glass badge]

Force id go damage.

[glass badge]

It does.

[raw breach]

Purgatus is a flamethrower. You get flamethrower or flame patches, not both lol

[glass badge]

Its like Sticky flames from Deep Rock Galactic

[drowsy fog]

ugh always a trade off, theres a purgatus with much more burn but also much less quell speed

[analog juniper]

Trauma should leave lingering warp portals that succ enemies in

[glass badge]

Lil' black holes

[near wyvern]

Only way to find out is to go to meat grinder with the targeted difficulty and test it out

[drowsy fog]

after knocking them away? lil chaotic lol

[latent crag]

feelsgoodman

[fluid knot]

Kyrnish is that a reference to Kernow?

[glass badge]

Ooooh

[drowsy fog]

dunno what that is

[fluid knot]

SW county in the UK

[raw breach]

my current Surge staff, just got it yesterday

[drowsy fog]

ah well im a filthy american so

[glass badge]

Maniacs is good, but im a sucker for infested enemies or poxwalkers

[fluid knot]

aye fairy muff

[near wyvern]

That is quite optimal NGL

[vestal finch]

You did not have to tell us

[glass badge]

You'll never guess what i am

[near wyvern]

Psyker

[glass badge]

Myes

[vestal finch]

Filth

[drowsy fog]

think I'll stick with the quell speed to get back into the action faster

[near wyvern]

So I won?

[glass badge]

You win:
No buffs probably

[near wyvern]

Rigged

[raw breach]

I know, right? I was hyped, Upgraded from a blue and managed to get Warp Nexus as 2nd blessing

[drowsy fog]

I have yet to see the soulblaze blessing, whether ppl think its good or not I just think its odd Ive never seen it

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze on crit?

[glass badge]

Which one is that again?

[raw breach]

Are you sorry Canadian?

[glass badge]

Yis 🇨🇦

Doesnt load on PC, i realize

[drowsy fog]

its called uh... blazing spirit

[dusky smelt]

i think you can only get the soulblaze as a legendeary blessing

[glass badge]

Cowabummer.

[dusky smelt]

ive only ever gotten it as a 2nd blessing

[primal aurora]

oh lol, only 0.7% of players have "Going Out With a Bang" according to Steam

[glass badge]

Im one of them.

[drowsy fog]

thats my next goal

[dusky smelt]

going out with a bang is wierd it forces you to play stupidly

[near wyvern]

Yeah that one sucks lol. With purge maybe you could get something out of it since stacks have exponential damage scaling but for others

[drowsy fog]

I mean most of the penances are pretty nuts

[raw breach]

Only 0.2% have "Like a four-leaf Clover"

[glass badge]

I REAAAAALY had to co-ordinate with my friend group for it

[dusky smelt]

our penances are dumb

[drowsy fog]

have you read vets penance list?

[primal aurora]

eh, I went with full team of psykers and we were FS pushing 5 elites into a tight group before explodiating them with kamikaze psyker

[drowsy fog]

finish a mission with 0 ammo and 100% accuracy

[glass badge]

Like, we took a mauler for a walk, just to find more ragers.

[dusky smelt]

vets isnt that hard

[glass badge]

Shotgun and not-spam

[dusky smelt]

u can use a weapon like revolver with low ammo

[drowsy fog]

just got malleus earlier tonight and immediately got not even close right after the kill

[raw breach]

Dump mag early and carefully, then melee the rest of the map

[glass badge]

Thats the strat, but the problem is when you get ammo off of special kills

[primal aurora]

you will get ammo due to vet passive

[dusky smelt]

yeah but its not that hard to not miss a few shots into a hoard

[glass badge]

And heresy has at least 3 specials

[analog juniper]

the person who made the malleus monstronum penance hasnt played the game before

[drowsy fog]

^^^

tbh tho are vet penances even worth it? their cosmetics are so plain

[dusky smelt]

like you can do vets while playing suboptimaly but still playing the game

[glass badge]

The last helmets look nice

[dusky smelt]

ours require dedicated teams and rng

[primal aurora]

I think malleus monstronum penance was designed with Solo mode in mind.

[glass badge]

For all classes, honestly

[dusky smelt]

inb4 bot attacks count

[drowsy fog]

gotta go psyker or zealot for the fashion grind man

[analog juniper]

how are you going to stop the bots from attacking the monster?

[glass badge]

True solo

No bots, no friends

[dusky smelt]

theyve never said theya re doing a true solo mode

not that i have heard anyway

whenever people talk solo im pretty sure they are talking w/ bots and not human players

[drowsy fog]

zealots huge penance sounds nutty too tho

[near wyvern]

We helped out vet friend with the don't get hit by melee penance

He used a barrel to ledge himself off then we waited for him to fall and 3 manned the mission

Good game design 👍

[primal aurora]

I'm salty that I missed easy "Flesh wound" penance

[drowsy fog]

less than 20 min, less than 1 wound 75% of the time

[woeful snow]

Just spent last night doing Going out with a Bang. Steam still shows like a 0.6% completion. So fucking annoying I suspect more people have the 90% BB damage to monsterosity

[glass badge]

I got mine after crashing at extraction.

[near wyvern]

This one we did by him using melee all the way until we got to the Valkyrie.

Then he unloaded his guns and we went in.

[spare flax]

they said in the community update they "will be working on improving the solo experience cause right now its simple impossible" that will probably involve an official true solo mode

[glass badge]

And rejoining at the final elevator

[drowsy fog]

the damn dog penance was the single most annoying thing I've experienced recently

[glass badge]

I got that pennance day 1 of the beta

[dusky smelt]

yeah that just sounds like solo with 3 bots like theyve done with all there other games

[woeful snow]

Maybe I got lucky, but I got that really early. I suspect it has similar ja l to abhor the mutant

[analog juniper]

the dog one is actually kind of easy since the Psyker can handle them easily

[paper trail]

Yeah its def gonna be private game with 3 bots

[drowsy fog]

its a matter of timing and your team not gunning it down

[primal aurora]

what dog penance?

[dusky smelt]

the dog one u just bb dogs and eventually youll get the timing by chance

[near wyvern]

It's funny that majority of the penances require most of the effort done by the team and not the player getting the penance

[glass badge]

The trick is to precharge so that the pre-pop stagger doesnt knock the hound out of pounce

[drowsy fog]

was sure I got it a few days ago but noooo it didnt pop

[analog juniper]

pop a hound while it pounces

[raw breach]

idk tho, because bots in this game dfon't work liek they do in vermintide where you can gear them based on your character loadouts. Solo mode in this game might actually be true solo

[primal aurora]

oh, that one was easy

[woeful snow]

You can do it reliably either the RMB. One of the only times I used it

[paper trail]

I think they're called pennance cus you are meant to suffer

[dusky smelt]

i mean thats what i assume theyll be working on

[glass badge]

Thats what i was thinking

[next plume]

any tips on getting the triple kill when u overcharge?

[drowsy fog]

no way in hell I'm gonna attempt pick n mix until the penances are adjusted

[glass badge]

Ill miss my IB boy, but who knows.

[primal aurora]

do you think we will get prettier faces as a dlc?

[glass badge]

Play in a group in discord and co-ordinate.

Also, soften up the enemies a bit.

[next plume]

ah ok cheers

[woeful snow]

I’m holding out a strange faith that all of them are meant to teach me something about the game. I suppose if anything, Going out with a Bang taught me to boldly play with high peril comfortably

[near wyvern]

Max + wounds, wait for a room full of elites and roll the dice

[drowsy fog]

what did malleus teach you lol

[dusky smelt]

theres playing with high peril and theres blowing yourself up and making your teammates need to rez you probably while a horde is up

[glass badge]

Hilding max charges taught me that my stacks are VERY important

[glass badge]

Head pop is good boss DPS, i guess

[dusky smelt]

except its shit

[near wyvern]

[drowsy fog]

its not tho, takes too damn long lol

[dusky smelt]

300 dps doesnt scale at all

[glass badge]

I use the faster headpop after ult so idk.

[woeful snow]

Having accommodating friends. And honestly I suppose how to run a monstrosity safely I guess

[dusky smelt]

yeah so does everyone

[near wyvern]

300dps VS 1500dps from a recon las gun, good DPS up my ogryn

[covert ermine]

This is literally me but ummm what did you expect from such random penance

[glass badge]

Kiting a biss easier is always good.

[drowsy fog]

I did learn you can fit 3 bbs inside a flurry before needing to quell so I guess thats something lol

[woven crow]

What are the best weapons and feats for psyker in your opinion? Anything really good I should look out for?

[glass badge]

Backdodge+slides, my beloved

[near wyvern]

Kinetic deflection is absolutely broken especially with regular melee weapons

[glass badge]

Anything to give you more warp charges

[primal aurora]

For me penances really spoiled my games. Because every game I had this annoying itch, pushing me to play selfishly and suboptimally to get this f*ng penance-cosmetic and finally stop caring about it. I don't think it costed me a match, but I'm sure I annoyed my teams a lot.

[dusky smelt]

axe 5 with kinetic deflection is probably the best

[drowsy fog]

psychic communion is wonderful

[dusky smelt]

theres a lot of discussion on which staff is best

[primal aurora]

Void is the best

[dusky smelt]

most people say either surge or void

[woven crow]

ooh I've kind of been pretending warp charges dont exist, just popping what needs popping as I go

[near wyvern]

All the three have their uses. Yes, three not four. Stop pretending trauma is a thing.

[dusky smelt]

trauma just seems like a worse void

[glass badge]

The bonus damage is very nice

[dusky smelt]

its so much more limited

[woeful snow]

It feels tricky. I set it down because Injust can’t be bothered to make it work for me

[tacit fractal]

Purgatus is fun, Surge is good small target cc, void is great killer/horde cc, trauma doesn't exist

[paper trail]

Its purely for the gibs

[dusky smelt]

purge is cool and if the zealot doesnt have a flamer is worth bringing imo

[glass badge]

Use Trauma like Conflageration. Dont fully charge, its more useful for the stagger.

[drowsy fog]

for fashions sake tho voidstrike looks the coolest

[dusky smelt]

void also staggers

[near wyvern]

Purge is horde CC + mediocre damage

Surge is elite/special CC with good damage against armour and no damage to anything else

Void is good damage against anything with mediocre CC

[tacit fractal]

ye

[primal aurora]

Oh, yes, you stagger and knockdown tight group of enemies with Trauma, killing ones in center and spreading around ones at edges. Then enemies at edges get up and surround you. The end.

[glass badge]

Wait just remembered.

No FF, so i don't have to worry about fireballing/voidballing allies

[tacit fractal]

I'm currently running on 4 hour sleep drive right now so wording is a little bit hard sibling

[dusky smelt]

trauma is not very good rn

[near wyvern]

Yes, it is the end because that one rager that got thrown survived the blast and now he is behind your team

[tacit fractal]

Trauma doesn't exist

[near wyvern]

F

[drowsy fog]

right I gotta get to bed, take care folks

[glass badge]

Have a good one

[tacit fractal]

You part of CA?

[primal aurora]

One reason I like Void the most is that it is the only staff that can deal with snipers. Sometimes BB just can't get them, either due to obstacles or a horde between you and the sniper.

[dusky smelt]

if instead of knocking them around trauma like stunned in a small aoe thatd be kinda cool

[tacit fractal]

Trauma doesn't exist for now

[tight saddle]

Trauma works just fine in Damnation.

[tacit fractal]

Fair point BUT others feel more viable and more fun

[dawn orchid]

If you enjoy trolling your team

It works pretty good for that

[tacit fractal]

No no, Keth does have a point

It does work

[dawn orchid]

"work"

[primal aurora]

Hey, I had a game on damnation with Vet running around with autopistol.

[wary tendon]

do all melee weapons other than the force sword have really fast passive quelling?

[tacit fractal]

Autopistol does also work on vet

[tight saddle]

Trauma being weaker doesn't make it bad, being worse doesn't make something bad. That's the Tide series for you, it lets you play with all sorts of different types of loadouts.

[dusky smelt]

honestly ive never even tried quelling w/ other melee and didnt know you could do that

[dawn orchid]

It's very notably weaker, to the point that it's bad imo

[woeful snow]

I think the problem with me is that I simply don’t want it to work. I hate charging shit and setting up traps. Idk

[tight saddle]

Trauma does have issues, some of them are known bugs already acknowledged by the developers so it's guaranteed to improve, but even how it is with all its issues it does just fine.

[tacit fractal]

Only melee you can quell with is fs

[dusky smelt]

thats what i thought

[wary tendon]

you can't quell but the bar goes down way faster it seems

passively

not bar, you know what i mean

[dusky smelt]

(x) doubt

[tight saddle]

Yep, non-FS weapons quell passively at a faster rate than FS quelling from start to finish.

[dusky smelt]

actually?

[glass badge]

My days as Crowbill Sienna or Axe Saltzpyre are finally paying their dues.

[near wyvern]

Bind dodge to a separate button, jump and then BB. You'll thank me later.

[wary tendon]

i was just testing it in the psykhanium, it seems much faster

[dusky smelt]

i have run toggle and dodge on space since you cant dodge forward

[tight saddle]

Yes, this is to offset stuff like FS having a powerful special attack and the option to get Deflector as a perk.

And other small nuances.

[near wyvern]

All non force weapons have fast auto quelling

[wary tendon]

ty

[tacit fractal]

What do you guys think is the max cap rating for weapons?

[primal aurora]

380

[dusky smelt]

its 80 in each catagory rn

[tight saddle]

This is why a some common weapons are better than FS.

[glass badge]

You could tank a darmon with anything, as long as you have high vlocking efficiency as well

My spelling is bad, and im giving up

Warp take me.

[sick steeple]

I want to make a block tank with the fs

[tight saddle]

The auto quell and Kinetic Deflection makes common weapons able to do some really busted stuff.

[dusky smelt]

i think thats more about how busted kinetic deflection is

[tacit fractal]

Even with blessings? Cause my surge staff says otherwise

[primal aurora]

Ironically FS is the worst for blocking, unless you want to block ranged attacks wtih Deflector perk.

[near wyvern]

No it's 380 total with 80 max for a single stat

[dusky smelt]

when i say 80 i mean the actual stats the random ratings for perks and blessings are different

[tight saddle]

It wouldn't be as busted if it wasn't for the passive auto quell, because Kinetic Deflection on FS is worse than common weapons because of how slowly it auto quells, the only upside is ranged blocking, but even then that's not all that great. It's just a fun alternative for a different playstyle.

[lethal plover]

here come people who don't know what they are talking about telling you what you can't use in damnation

[edgy kite]

For warp absorption, 10% toughness on killing an enemy with a warp attack

[glass badge]

Oh, so my lasgun with 80% damage is actually a max roll?

[edgy kite]

what's considered a warp attack? Just brain burst?

[glass badge]

Warp sword, staffs, burst

[sacred lodge]

kind of wish I had friends to play this game with... would make some of the penances, and even life in general, easier

[edgy kite]

Just the basic hits with the warp sword, or does it need the special active?

[tight saddle]

special

[dusky smelt]

active

[glass badge]

Think it needs to be the special

[edgy kite]

Ok cheers

[near wyvern]

At the moment, yes that's a max base damage roll

[tacit fractal]

fs charge hit, soulblaze, burst and staves

[nocturne edge]

How to use Trauma efficiently?

[glass badge]

Wait, soulblaze damage ticks

[dusky smelt]

dont

[primal aurora]

play on difficulty 1 or 2

[stable peak]

Trauma is just bad voidstrike atm

[clear heath]

Trauma bad
Get some therapy

[dusky smelt]

u can make it work in malice

[lethal plover]

spam 360 at feet to clear space for backline (no staff can do that)
control dogs
1shot bursters
send crushers

[dusky smelt]

u can do anything in malice

[near wyvern]

You de-equip it

[nocturne edge]

Please elaborate the 360?

[lethal plover]

ignore the idiots who don't even play damnation all that much

[glass badge]

If you really wanna use it, do small explosions to save peril and stagger enemies.
Just dont ignore the survivors.

[tight saddle]

some of us in this channel use Trauma just fine in Damnation solo quickplay lol

[glass badge]

Smaller, i mean, dont just do tiny ones constantly

Like, half a second of charge

[tight saddle]

but man I'm not in the mood to keep defending trauma again for the thousandth time, I'm on cooldown for that topic lol

[lethal plover]

spam at feet uncharged first before committing to bigger and bigger explosions. no one should be able to touch you

[nocturne edge]

If I use it for stagger, how is it better than surge in this chance?

[clear heath]

it hits more enemies

[near wyvern]

We did trio malice so yes, you can even go take a poo break if you have a capable team

[nocturne edge]

This looks quite solid! thanks

[sacred lodge]

alright, I'm planning on taking wrack and ruin, kinetic overload, and ascendent blaze for maximum soulblaze procs, what should I look out for in gear? and other feats too, I guess

[glass badge]

Theoretically no target limit

[lethal plover]

being able to push and knocking down crushers allow other backliners to go to town

[near wyvern]

Sibling needs to vent

[tight saddle]

you can also send enemies flying to a more favorable position to create breathing room when shit hits the fan, significantly more enemies than surge can CC and then surge has the RNG CC chain that can fuck up in big groups

[lethal plover]

also use trauma for dogs

[glass badge]

Good to note that the range of the blast os larger than the circle itself

[patent hatch]

Any tips for going out with a bang?

[primal aurora]

lfg channels

[glass badge]

Co-ordinate in a doscord call.
Also, soften them up

[clear heath]

i just spammed surge on elites until i accidentally killed myself

[paper trail]

I've been trying that method but the mobs survive lol

[nocturne edge]

At what level do I unlock the firestaff?

[near wyvern]

Either pre made or go to heresy with +wound trinkets, wait for a room full of elites/specials and roll the dice

[tight saddle]

probably rename the files to include Damnation for some people who can't tell it's Damnation

[glass badge]

Someone said it earlier, but majority of Psykers penance isnt about psyk playing well, its about the team just, complying with your shenanigans.

[paper trail]

its best not to think about when you unlock staffs and just always check the shop until they appear anyway

[lethal plover]

good call. well I only damn these days

[rose gazelle]

Is warp absorption broken atm? I feel like sometimes the kills aren't procing the 10% toughness

[dusky smelt]

itll say in post game when you unlock the staffs and i think the next shop is guaranteed to have new stuff when you first unlock it

[jovial quail]

I almost exclusively play heresy modifiers and can't get enough plasteel, is Damnation any better? I've ran a few and it felt like the same ratio, just more but not sure if anyone plays it alot and has any input

[lethal plover]

I believe there's a special interaction with trauma that instakills bursters. the damage alone shouldn't be able to do it.

[paper trail]

What is it that changes face tattoos? Is is career or life choices?

[dusky smelt]

the face tattoo setting

[tight saddle]

damnation is worse for Plasteels overall, but sometimes you do luck out with a 300+ plasteel Damnation mission, those are rare though

[dusky smelt]

at the barber

[glass badge]

Does shooting a pox bursters bomb do anything special?

Cuz i know Trauma can trigger barrels

[jovial quail]

@tight saddle Bleh alrighty thanks, that was kinda what i was experiencing in my few runs I did recently just wasn't sure if perhaps we were missing some

[paper trail]

Yeah I know that, but what is it that makes the actual tattoo options different

[dusky smelt]

they are different looks cosmetically

[paper trail]

no shit

[tight saddle]

it's the classic fat shart issue that went on for too long in Vermintide as well before they let you convert materials.

[dusky smelt]

thats all they are

[clear heath]

I think he means why different characters get different options

I think it's just by class

[glass badge]

Let me buy plasteel with dockets

[clear heath]

like obviously an ogryn would have different cosmetic options than a psyker

[paper trail]

That sucks, there are some awesome ones for Vet I want on my Psyker

[tight saddle]

let me salvage trash items into materials like Vermintide

[glass badge]

^^^

[jovial quail]

I'm still holding onto like 50 weapons just incase lmao

[dusky smelt]

they probably will didnt they have this same prob in vermintide too?

[glass badge]

Itd gibe me a reason to buy out the shop

[lethal plover]

meh when will new maps come

[jovial quail]

Dude sitting on 2m and it keeps coming, we definitely need more money sinks in this game

[dusky smelt]

bring new modes the lights out mode was a blast

[glass badge]

Ehat the heck is a flash mussion

[wary tendon]

I think the only background thing that changes cosmetic options is cadian eyes?

[dusky smelt]

yup

[rare snow]

question: does anyone know what levels are considered critical peril for the purposes of skill triggers?

[cyan notch]

90%

[near wyvern]

We heard you liked the powers put with the increased demonhost spawns.

Our next event is demon invasion, there is now a demonhost replacing every med station. Enjoy.

[karmic quail]

So what's the general consensus for psyker player height? Max, avg or min?

[near wyvern]

You sure it's not 97?

[cyan notch]

yes

[dusky smelt]

i mean if you are trying to be optimal the answers is min so you can hide behind cover better

[glass badge]

Yeah, cadians get the pink & purple eyes.

Everyone can get black pupils.

[analog juniper]

irrelevant. I think your hurtbox is still the same regardless of height

[near wyvern]

AVG if you want to use the metal shooting position Shields if you ever want to do a run with a gun

Tiniest for a staff purist

Tallest for the melee head hunter

[brazen tundra]

I don’t think so

I get shot a whole lot less from cover playing on a non max height character

[dusky smelt]

Virgin manlet psykers hiding behind cover

VS

CHAD 6'+ psykers with deflector FS

[analog juniper]

how do you know it's not just a placebo effect?

[near wyvern]

That is not true.

[brazen tundra]

I still haven’t seen a deflector FS and it makes me sad

[clear heath]

https://youtu.be/iIX17PIoQjc

[near wyvern]

There is a video in YouTube for proof

If you are the tallest you can shoot above some boxes but it's a two way lane

[rigid widget]

Chad 6'+ to see over the manlets and womanlets for brain bursting elites

[clear heath]

For a psyker with a staff, you'd probably want to be short. Especially with surge, where you can shoot through cover most of the time anyways.
I love going melee as my tall psyker tho. Feels good

[paper trail]

Very cool video that was quite interesting. I'm still not changing from max height though cus it looks shit lol

[dusky smelt]

i rarely feel like i even bb anymore #buffBB

objectively speaking its to be min height but then youre a manlet

[vestal finch]

Because you suck

[near wyvern]

It's not that good. I mean yeah you can stand still and block ranged attacks but things need to die and fast my man

[vestal finch]

I BB all the time

[clear heath]

I went slightly shorter on my vet and i'm regretting it cause it feels slightly more awkward in melee. I hope they give us an option to change height

[rigid widget]

I've had two, honestly never made use of their deflector for ranged

[brazen tundra]

But hear me out

If my method of blocking involves holding up a magic force shield

I want to feel cool and block roughly 2 bullets a game because I won’t pay enough attention to actually use it

[dusky smelt]

style points