psyker-class

[covert cosmos]

maybe

i'm not sure what stat would influence an uncharged rmb shot

[weary palm]

uncharged M2 is worthless

across the board

[shut thorn]

I can get around 300-400 from rmb no charge spam, around 250ish from left click

[covert cosmos]

wtf stat influences that then...

[weary palm]

trauma fix/buff waiting room

[shut thorn]

it might be from bigger blast radius causing more dmg?

[wooden silo]

Any recomendations what feats to run on a lvl 20 surge psyker?

[celest oar]

with the same macro... enjoy guys

[covert cosmos]

my current staff has 68% blast radius but only 24% charge rate

[shut thorn]

pocket sand

[idle shuttle]

im not even using macro

[shut thorn]

meanwhile trauma is just, there

trauma needs to get rid of that "no damage" portion of the chargeup

[weary palm]

lemme finger roll it like coruscation staff

even tho it's just conflag

[celest oar]

wait how are you doing this?

[shut thorn]

Honestly what would make trauma better would be if it pulled enemies slightly into the circle while charging up

[shut thorn]

sprint to cancel

[weary palm]

trauma is doing less damage than intended and it's a confirmed bug

[celest oar]

LOL

[weary palm]

but blast radius dropoff should be improved imo

[celest oar]

thats actually hilarious

[shut thorn]

psyker is the best class

tbh

I have never completed t5 runs as fast as w/ 4 psykers

Dying in t5 4x psyker is difficult

[chilly cobalt]

With the surge staff do we just do uncharged zaps or does holding it down makr it last longer

[idle shuttle]

4 glitcher exploiter psyks

[chilly cobalt]

(For cc) that is

[shut thorn]

not like any other class at t5 is glitch free

zealots w/ dagger windup are funny

[idle shuttle]

not saying they are

but we have some fun ones

which i think were incriminating ourselves here and are gonna get patched to hell

[shut thorn]

I initially thought the first zealot I encountered doing that was speedhacking

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn I think the only class that would really struggle a bit would be 4 zealots on damnation maybe, especially if they all run flamers lol

because then snipers have a field day on every hallway

[idle shuttle]

footage of this?

[shut thorn]

Yeah but zealots can move incredibly fast

[idle shuttle]

so I can tell my zealot friend to do it lol

[ruby merlin]

True

The game is just too easy atm to be challenging for vt2 vets

[ruby merlin]

we need damnation 3+ already 😛

[shut thorn]

No, I've only seen it a few times and think(?) it has to do with the dagger windup anim because theyve all run dagger and have their hand out weird

[compact cargo]

Damnation twitch 200%

[ruby merlin]

I wish the eyes glowed more

@compact cargo With that mod that reduces stagger on enemies

[weary palm]

tzeentchian twins

[compact cargo]

yes

YES

[shut thorn]

blue ones shine insanely bright, but ye

[weary palm]

i hope they'll let me put blue glowy eyes on black sclera

heard it's another bug

[idle shuttle]

well my opinion is diff on voidstaff now, I didnt know you could machine gun it

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Yeah that's why I use the blue ones on my psyker

I wish I could make glowing purple eyes

Would actually buy that as a cosmetic tbh

[weary palm]

fucked up eyes gang

[tight saddle]

What's the tech for 100% spam

[ruby merlin]

Yeah, we might not be allowed to make xeno characters (yet), but at least we can get xeno eyes 😛

[tight saddle]

I just woke up and saw those clips

[shut thorn]

welcome to the fold lmao, I used to be a vehement surge staff main until I figured out anim cancelling on it by accident

[weary palm]

quell cancelling

[tight saddle]

So just tap quell and lmb or is there more

[idle shuttle]

quell cancel doesnt work on all of em

[shut thorn]

it's different for each staff kinda

lets not incriminate tho

the devs are up

[idle shuttle]

sprint cancel works on purgator and palpatine rod

[ruby merlin]

I think animation cancels are good for the game, more skill ceiling. Some people will macro it I'm sure.

[shut thorn]

yeah that

it feels way more fun

[idle shuttle]

if you macro youre a shitter

[weary palm]

i dont buy void uncharged spam

[idle shuttle]

use your fingers

[shut thorn]

and honestly psyker needs the anim cancels

[weary palm]

because it does less than a level 1 catty sword lmao

[ruby merlin]

That sword isn't actually bad by any means

[glossy hazel]

Animation cancels are fine on stuff like reloads and such, but not on gamebreaking stuff like ignoring peril completely.

[ruby merlin]

People just shit on it because it's the starter weapon and isn't fancy

[weary palm]

oh yeah absolutely

[shut thorn]

i didnt know 1 catachan sword can delete an entire horde or effectively stunlock reapers/crushers

[weary palm]

i have a shred/wrath catty on zealot and it's funny as fuck

[idle shuttle]

i mean you can ruin an animation cancel and get yourself killed

so its fair :}

[ruby merlin]

I guess if the voidstaff is powerful enough by default it can one shot in the head and just pierce till it hits an elite?

Yeah I agree

Just detect macros and give people a 1 day temp ban for them or something lol.

[shut thorn]

• a very tiny bit of charge time on anim cancel rmb does a lot more dmg on void

[shut thorn]

nah don't

[cyan notch]

just press f

[shut thorn]

would prevent people w/ fucked hands from playing properly

[ruby merlin]

Hmmm true

[patent hatch]

Macros aren’t really cheating tbh

[shut thorn]

its a pve game

[ruby merlin]

But there are weapons that you could use with foot pedals.

[shut thorn]

who cares if someone uses macros

[weary palm]

macros on some weapons are necessary to not have wrecked hands in months

[cyan notch]

no ll

[idle shuttle]

macro means you have no honor and are unclean

[ruby merlin]

I only use the easy weapons for that reason tbh @weary palm

[weary palm]

try gaming with mk4 lasgun lmfao

[olive ember]

Couldn’t see eyes if you had t3 goggle hood

[shut thorn]

Do 4 hours of force sword heavy cleave w/o a macro

[cyan notch]

macros are necessary he said

most copium thing ive heard

[ruby merlin]

Like antax axe is pretty relaxing on your fingers.

[weary palm]

epic selective reading

to not have RSI i said

[idle shuttle]

lmao

[austere burrow]

Antax be like right click left click left click left click

[uneven sparrow]

Any accessories available thru penance

[olive ember]

That’s literally what I do tho

[cyan notch]

macros on some weapons are necessary to not have wrecked hands in months he said

most copium thing ive heard

[subtle monolith]

got my void staff at level 11

[glossy hazel]

Handlets

[subtle monolith]

nice

[shut thorn]

go to a traumatologist before it's too late

[uneven sparrow]

[ruby merlin]

@austere burrow yeah, it's slow, not too frantic, low energy. Combine with good stretches and you're good to go.

[austere burrow]

My hands are kinda messed up so I appreciate the relaxing weapons lol

[shut thorn]

Ok so maybe now you will stop trying to claim that trauma is good

[subtle monolith]

hey what is that macro some guys was talking about? I want to do that too

[idle shuttle]

for comedic effect

trauma is a good clown wep

[subtle monolith]

like reload and rmb

[shut thorn]

same, age hasn't been kind tbh (nor the amt of times I've dislocated my arm)

[ruby merlin]

It can burst things down pretty well tbh. Just don't expect to do consistent dps with it.

[subtle monolith]

what are you talking about?

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Just don't play shade daggers in vt2, and you're good 😛

[austere burrow]

I don't macro but I can understand needing to for some of the repetitive stuff

[ruby merlin]

Trauma staff, good burst dps.

[cyan notch]

pathetic

i do dual daggers all the time

[weary palm]

trauma really needs good charge time

[idle shuttle]

shade has other weapons ?

[ruby merlin]

S+D are just easier for horde.

and spear is fun

[shut thorn]

mfw I rotate my head up 90 degrees to aim w/ trauma staff, a reason you don't see it in lore tbh, they all got fucked spines

[subtle monolith]

HOW

HOW

[cyan notch]

garbage aiming

[subtle monolith]

I WANT TO DO THAT TOO

[cyan notch]

idk why they changed it just make it the same as conflag aiming

[idle shuttle]

sprint before you kill yourself

and keep it 100

[cyan notch]

aiming at the sky just to explode the air

[subtle monolith]

how

[cyan notch]

yes thanks thats a thing i would ever want to do

[subtle monolith]

like rmb and after that sprint?

wtf is this

[olive ember]

Is the tactical axe better than the combat axe on zealot

[subtle monolith]

does that work with void staff too?

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Mostly just use it at closer range lol

[shut thorn]

you send a signal from your brain to your cerebellum which then sends a signal into your left pinky to press the shift button

[olive ember]

The people in zealot chat are arguing about random stuff >.>

[idle shuttle]

no, every staff has some fuckery though

[shut thorn]

Trauma? Idk if there's any techniques for it

[ruby merlin]

@olive ember To be fair we have random lore arguments in here sometimes lol, not enough content to really talk about atm.

[shut thorn]

It has a window of no dmg on charge up

[olive ember]

Nah like

They are arguing because someone mentioned using the heavy sword or wte when every else was talking about chain sword

[idle shuttle]

oh right... trauma

[olive ember]

And one of them went “can you read”

[austere burrow]

Lol

[olive ember]

And there first guy took offense to that

[austere burrow]

The best arguments

[subtle monolith]

how to do the same with void? I saw some video in chat

[ruby merlin]

@olive ember I think I actually saw that heavy sword zealot thread on reddit, I think it's nice that someone's trying to make it work.

[cyan notch]

yea sucks ive gotten nuked for charging the blank shot on trauma

[shut thorn]

Vet chat = complain about psykers and gloat
Ogryn chat = "vt2 is better"
Psyker chat = "New staff, what do you think?"
Zealot chat = "Lfg 10m penance"

[ruby merlin]

IMO it's the worst thing when some class has an ideal weapon that everyone has to use, or they're trolling.

[olive ember]

Idk cuz I’m using the antax axe, tried the knife eviscerator and hammer and they all seem kinda meh imo

[cyan notch]

power sword

[olive ember]

Heard good things about the tactical axe

[ruby merlin]

Try it if you like it!

[austere burrow]

Knife is good only if you're doing the bleed crit build

[ruby merlin]

It's all feel IMO

Like if it feels clunky, don't use it. If it's fun, use it. Damnation is easy enough atm that you don't need to struggle anyway.

[austere burrow]

Eviscerator is good imo but it's kinda technical

[cyan notch]

iono bout that

[ruby merlin]

If we had the equivalent of cata 3+ with modded stagger tournies, then I'm sure metas will emerge.

[shut thorn]

I've seen zealots move incredibly fast with dagger, I need to figure out how tf they're doing it

[ruby merlin]

But till then, it's whatever.

[subtle monolith]

how do you create macro for this game?

[austere burrow]

It's just the heavy slide thing

[ruby merlin]

It's probably just autohotkey, or a general mouse app

[light belfry]

just got malleus monstrorum done, any tips for pick n mix? feels like you absolutely have to have 5 gunners spawn

[austere burrow]

I don't think there's any other movement tech

[cyan notch]

for most people damnation definitely isnt "easy enough atm that you dont need to struggle"

[ruby merlin]

@light belfry Last week it worked on malice

Which means a lot more things you can one shot

[light belfry]

does it still work?

[ruby merlin]

No clue

[olive ember]

Idk cuz combat axe is nice but it’s elite killing power leaves something to be desired (like I struggle against beserkers and maulers while my psyker just kills em in 1-2 shots)

[shut thorn]

They're not sliding, just running with the dagger stuck in like the buildup for a heavy stab or smth

[light belfry]

I’ll have to try that

[ruby merlin]

Not many people get it done haha

[hidden breach]

it has to be on 5 different types of enemies

[light belfry]

i don’t believe you

[austere burrow]

Weird, maybe there's some other tech there I don't know about

[hidden breach]

so I believe 5 gunners does not work

[ruby merlin]

@olive ember Combat axe is just a nice tanky option that works against stuff eventually IMO.

[weary palm]

kinetic barrage, chasm logistratum starting part and prayge

[ruby merlin]

It's not really a dps beast for everything.

[olive ember]

5 gunners can work

[light belfry]

that would be so stupid

[chilly cobalt]

Do we do uncharged zaps for the surge staff or do we hold it down to last longer

[light belfry]

and I’ve heard some people get it done without talking about how you need 5 specific

how rough would that be though

[olive ember]

5 gunners work and it’s the easiest way to get it because on heresy+ the game likes to spawn packs of gunners

[light belfry]

if it was 5 specific

I’d believe

these penances are evil

[olive ember]

Bad it would be and if you need 5 different types

Gunner, shotgunner, bomber, sniper, trapper I believe are the only ones that can be one shot on heresy

[shut thorn]

Vet penances: grief your team
Ogryn penances: Help your team
Psyker penances: ???? wtf

[austere burrow]

Uncharged

[weary palm]

Zealot penances: throw yourself off a cliff

[light belfry]

having played every class

[olive ember]

Blowing yourself up to kill 3 elites ain’t helping lol

[austere burrow]

I don't think charging even increases cc length

[light belfry]

psyker penances are so fucked

[austere burrow]

It's just more damage

[ruby merlin]

Any shade spear users from vt2 in here btw?

[idle shuttle]

@shut thorn

[olive ember]

Yeye but idk for wte reason zealot feels the worse for melee imo

[subtle monolith]

pro tips for void staff?

[light belfry]

is there a more fucked up penance than pick and mix? Maybe pre nerf flesh wound

[idle shuttle]

some meh anim cancel

[light belfry]

used spear on all careers

[chilly cobalt]

Uncharged builds up heat like a mfker, do you guys just vent to like just be able to get one off at 100%?

[ruby merlin]

@olive ember Probably because they have faster attacks, but lacks peril block. So more dps, but less tanky.

[light belfry]

love it

[cyan notch]

only on old cloak of mist

[shut thorn]

already known abt since closed beta, not very useful

[olive ember]

Yeye lacking peril block is annoying, and they have rly jank horde clear imo

[ruby merlin]

@light belfry Nice, do you think it has major weaknesses compared to s+d? I've tried it out, and I really like the range. Just need to aim better vs armoured mobs.

[idle shuttle]

yeah sucks lol

[light belfry]

spear is unironically neck and neck with snd in my opinion

[austere burrow]

I just vent down when I hit 100, or use ult if I need to

[empty vault]

my new blaze sword

[light belfry]

it depends a lot on your ability to hit headshots

[austere burrow]

I'm not usually pressed about peril with surge

[ruby merlin]

I like hitting headshots tbh, and it feels more satisfying on spear for some reason.

[light belfry]

but it’s insanely strong and if you want someone more qualified than me to believe

[sudden briar]

is the class fun?

[olive ember]

Search for slaughterer and you basically set

[light belfry]

core vouches for it

[olive ember]

Depends on the player

[sudden briar]

fuck yeah

[light belfry]

It has a very high finesse modifier, it relies a lot on headshots on those heavies

[austere burrow]

The fast peril gen is actually kinda good because you get more toughness regen

[cyan notch]

must be nice

[chilly cobalt]

Ah ok

[light belfry]

speaking of force swords

can I pick you guys’s brain on something

[shut thorn]

I like psyker a lot, most fun gameplay since the staves are so diverse

[light belfry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671281890388475906/1051287725623484516/image.png

[austere burrow]

My lightning staff has warp resist at like 50% because I literally don't care about the stat

[light belfry]

melks offering me this for 1700~

has a pretty good base total

[olive ember]

Good stats bad traits meh perks

[light belfry]

and I could rearrange it’s guts when crafting comes out

[shut thorn]

idk........ it doesn't have deflector so I wouldn't risk it

[light belfry]

but idk if it’s worth

[cyan notch]

just buy it unless ur poor on melk bucks

[light belfry]

buying something I can’t really use use for a while

[olive ember]

Good stats I’d buy it and wait for crafting

But I also already have a deflector FS so

[light belfry]

I have like 3.5k or something but weeklies reset again soon

I have a deflector as well is the thing

and it’s not like

terrible

it’s like 320 base? Smth like that

so I wouldn’t use this new one until crafting is the thing

[austere burrow]

Eh

What else are you gonna use the currency on

[light belfry]

that is a good point

[cyan notch]

gamba

[austere burrow]

High base roll seems reason enough to get it

[idle shuttle]

on the next good thing that pops up but he cant afford

cuz he baught this one

[austere burrow]

Weekly resets tomorrow

[cyan notch]

he has plenty of melk bucks

[austere burrow]

It'll be fiiiiine

[olive ember]

I mean the rng on the gamba seems so shit tho

I spent 2k on my zealot and just got a bunch of autoguns n shit

[light belfry]

the main thing that nags me about it in the back of my head is that I’ve gotten some really good stat rolls from other shit

but idk I feeel like that’s more luck than anything

[austere burrow]

It is just luck lol

[light belfry]

like I haven’t gotten any of my really good weapons from melk before

[cyan notch]

well yea its 100% luck what do you think it is

[olive ember]

It’s not just “get good base roll” with gamba, it’s also “get correct weapon type” and just layers on layers of rng

[light belfry]

that was stupid

you’re right LOL

[idle shuttle]

Aaron G.

[light belfry]

gambling is mid imo yea

[idle shuttle]

invest in FTX

[austere burrow]

Slots stream

[cyan notch]

its ok! you get to reroll one(1) perk! 🥰

[light belfry]

yea chances are by the time something appears on my shop that is worth a damn again I’ll have enough to buy a 3k melk thing again

I’ll pick it up tomorrow

[ruby merlin]

@light belfry I'm still pretty new to vt2, played more darktide than it. But the weapon combos are fun, and spear feels easier on my hands compared to snd too 😛

[olive ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1050883764240257044/image.png

Goodbye +stamina

[austere burrow]

Does block efficiency work on peril gain

[ruby merlin]

We should really get the same crafting system as vermintide, just don't let us create new weapons or something

[light belfry]

yeah. It’s a lot more fun of a weapon to me. It definitely holds up as you push difficulty as well. Not a bad weapon by any means, very comparable to snd

[olive ember]

I’m kinda depressed about the thunder hammer considering I mained IB in my two weeks of vermintide 2

[light belfry]

they’ll make it better

[olive ember]

And the thunder hammer just feels like garbo

[idle shuttle]

put kerrilian in darktide

[olive ember]

You mean Cadian Vet?

[light belfry]

put bardin in darktide and backport ogryn to vermentide

this is the way

sienna fifth career

reveals itself

[cyan notch]

i matched an ogryn called Kerillian lol

[light belfry]

ungry for rations

[austere burrow]

Cadian vet doesn't call people gleikit mayflies

[light belfry]

Zealot can call people glaikit

[austere burrow]

It's not the same

[olive ember]

Cadian vet has ptsd tho

[raw breach]

Talk about a dump stat. Never seen a roll that low lol

[half iron]

okay but what if those stats but for trauma

[subtle monolith]

ok soo

best melee option for psyker?

[half iron]

the one you like

[subtle monolith]

your mom

[empty vault]

force sword

[half iron]

i like my mom too

[fluid knot]

'ello spark'eads, you's are legends 🙏 that is all

[subtle monolith]

how do I create macros in this game?

what should I use to do so

@celest oar can you teach me how to create macros for void staff please?

[celest oar]

I use a logitech mouse so if you dont i cant

[subtle monolith]

damn

[idle shuttle]

i can teach u

need ur ip

so i can send them to you directly on a internet

[light belfry]

give me ur address I will click r for you

irl

[ruby merlin]

@subtle monolith just learn to use autohotkey if you really want to macro

[idle shuttle]

when you need a macro to press 1 key

[subtle monolith]

honestly I tested void staff and the electro one

I like electro just for the animation

and feeling like a palpatine

[idle shuttle]

wear a hoodie

when using it

[ruby merlin]

I guess if you have RSI and macros are allowed, you might as well use one.

[idle shuttle]

RSI?

really serious injury

on your hand

[ruby merlin]

Repetitive stress injury

Some adc players in league have it

due to all the attack moves

[half iron]

real swag intervals

[idle shuttle]

well have you seen a league players diet

[ruby merlin]

These would be pro players

[cyan notch]

league

[idle shuttle]

theyre gonna get injured

[subtle monolith]

holy shit that shift and electro staff combo is actually op

endless cc

and tons of damage

[ruby merlin]

so they have organized diets etc and physiotherapists.

[subtle monolith]

100% peril and just dont care

[idle shuttle]

cept if you dont have F, and dont stop running

you can fuck it up etc

[polar kraken]

Hi all; what should I look for if I'm a psyker and I like to shock things, I have no idea what I want with my force sword and Im not even sure its the best choice.

[subtle monolith]

I can just hold shift right?

or just press every time?

[idle shuttle]

yeah but if you hit shift late and let it rip

[subtle monolith]

like tapping endlessly

[edgy hearth]

Ok so does warp resist do much for the force sword lol

[idle shuttle]

the later you hit shift the more of the electro comes out

[subtle monolith]

hm

need to check that

[shut thorn]

Helps w/ blocking but antax mk v is better for that if you have the peril block thing

[subtle monolith]

find perfecting time for max efficiency

[edgy hearth]

Aware of the antax meme strat, though I do like meme-ing with the ranged block on the force sword

[subtle monolith]

hope this will stay not fixed

it is cool as hell and kinda high risk high reward situation

[shut thorn]

Antax mk v > slab shield lmao

[idle shuttle]

im unaware of the antax shit

I just got one off the shop too

[shut thorn]

u can hold rmb with the peril block feat and because of it passively quelling peril really fast you basically dont run out of block

you can put some object on rmb and go afk while your friend does the malleus penance

[idle shuttle]

is that with a certain roll? i didnt see any quell on it

[shut thorn]

and unlike slab shield you can move it around and attack even

[shut thorn]

all non force weapons have very fast peril quelling

[cyan notch]

heals you with quietitude too lol

[edgy hearth]

Alright you guys convinced me. This a good axe to upgrade then?

[hidden breach]

wtf, it's actually like normal quelling

[shut thorn]

up to you, it's nice imo, cleave's low but whatever

Rest makes up for bad cleave

[idle shuttle]

my antax is 64% : )

[shut thorn]

I would get that even if it was melk

[idle shuttle]

dmg

[shut thorn]

the thing with antax is you can block endlessly and the block combo dmg is extremely high

u can afk in a horde/facing a monstrosity

[primal aurora]

Yes, it is actually very stupid. You quell very fast with non-force weapons while free to do anything. Meanwhile if you quell with your force sword you move like a snail, unable to do anything else

[idle shuttle]

you get a cool crouching tiger hidden dragon animation with force sword meditate

[shut thorn]

The passive quell on force sword is genuinely terrible, and it's because they want you to retain peril for the +% attack feat

[idle shuttle]

if ive pulled out my sword its cause my peril is too high

[shut thorn]

Shame really

[idle shuttle]

and my F is down

yeah thats dumb

[shut thorn]

force sword would dethrone antax mk v if it had higher passive quell in terms of tanking

[edgy hearth]

Penetration or cleave on the axe? (I have several)

[shut thorn]

most ppl go for pen

[idle shuttle]

my antax

[vital bough]

So some interesting facts about Kinetic Overload.
I've heard somebody say that Soulblaze can only tick for 100 damage before, but I'm sitting next to a big Ogryn to test Kinetic Overload, and I've gotten it to do 350 damage every tick after proc'ing Kinetic Overload 4 or 5 times

This is on Heresy Meatgrinder

[idle shuttle]

thats cause its stacking 4 stacks of soulblaze two or 3 times

[edgy hearth]

Eh. I suppose I run purgatus for big hoard anyways

[idle shuttle]

which wont happen in a horde

[vital bough]

I mean it quite easily does when you pair Kinetic Overload with Psychic Communion. On top of all the Soulblaze giving you warp charges on top of Pyschic Communion.

[idle shuttle]

i mean on the same target

afaik the closest enemy is touched with it

[vital bough]

It actively selects elites though, the closest elite. It's not random.

[idle shuttle]

prioritizing an elite

would a BB on the elite its self get that to stick on it?

[vital bough]

what do you mean 'stick on it'?

[echo remnant]

Devil's Claw OR Force Sword?

[idle shuttle]

the soulblaze from kinetic overload

or does it have to be a neighbor

[vital bough]

Soulblaze from Kinetic Overload comes from when you get Warp Charges, so it doesn't have to just be from you BB'ing

Which is why I recommended Psychic Communion

4% chance for you and every teammate in coherency to give you a warp charge with every kill

You can proc Kinetic Overload several times a second in huge hordes

It's actually kinda underrated imo I just wish that the rest of soulblaze was a bit better

[idle shuttle]

yeah I do communion

[tight saddle]

Kinetic Overload is funny when it, by pure luck and rarely happens, spreads it to every elite that was going to die and the elite kill feed is like 8+ all your kills on accident while you're just clearing the horde with purg staff proccing warp charges with blaze.

[idle shuttle]

I was messing with kinetic overload in the meatgrinder and wasnt impressed on the damage..

[tight saddle]

I had a Vet be like "WTF HOLY SHIT HOW DID YOU DO THAT" but I didn't want to tell them it was just stupid RNG and I wasn't even looking at the Elites lmfao

It's shit damage, but it's funny when it by dumb luck finishes off all the Elites in a Horde

[idle shuttle]

im gonna give it another shot though because I hate that kinetic flayer wont work at critical peril

im always at critical

[vestal finch]

Then quell, cretin, and stop bothering us.

[vital bough]

I think I actually understand how it chooses targets from observation.

It seems to check an area around you (Lets say 15m) for targets.
First it checks for Elites in this area, if there's elites it chooses the closest one to you.
No elites? It chooses the closest normal enemy to you.
But regardless of whether you have normal adds in your face, and the Elite is at max range, it will always choose the elite first so that's always useful when you stack up 12 stacks of Soulblaze a second in massive hordes

It's also super useful for at least hitting trappers or dogs with enough stacks of SB to make them wilt away if they some how disappear from sight again

[vestal finch]

I wonder how much Gunner resistance you can stack

I have 3 curios for it, 2 with 15% one with 20

There's a feat for it too

[magic hull]

has anyone tried the achlys?

[vital bough]

Not personally no. But I like the other combat axe. Can't speak much on either one though I don't have a whole lot of experience using them.

[tight saddle]

I like the combo of Psychic Communion, Kinetic Overload, and Blaze with Purg staff in Heresy since Endless Horde is still bugged and I'm in the mood to see blue fire, but I'm rarely in the mood to burn stuff.

[vital bough]

I try not to stack gunner resist and just take a Force Sword with Reflector if I can

[vestal finch]

I like to have fun, no thank you

[frank lake]

is the blazing spirit how good for voidstrike staff?

[tight saddle]

ooo

[ornate hamlet]

In my 100-ish hours I have never come across a sword with deflector on my psyker

Big E hates me

[vital bough]

Wut? Blocking bullets with my mind is fun to me man

[tight saddle]

it took me 150 for my first one

[frank lake]

which sword?

[vestal finch]

Big E gave me one for free

[sand belfry]

Finally got a deflector force sword

emperor smiles upon me

[vital bough]

Been farming for a decent Force Sword with Deflector for the past week just about.
Finally got this thing when it was still grey:

And I got T3 Deflector as well

[sand belfry]

even with T1 deflector its crazy efficient

[vital bough]

Definitely wanna change out that Groaners & Poxwalkers damage when that update hits, though

[sand belfry]

I cant imagine with T3

[vital bough]

Yeah, and just put the Peril block on

Walk forward like a badass into gunners and take no damage

Those fucking gunners are mostly what hurts me anyways

[tight saddle]

I did not know Dueling Sword was Psyker only lmfao and I have 190 hours now

[cyan notch]

gunners give u lots of peril

[hidden coral]

I love how Dueling Sword animations from third person are so dorky. You stand super straight, chest out, with your off hand behind your back

Fits really well with Seer Psyker thinking they're some weird Napoleonic hero in their dream

[vital bough]

Ideally I'd like a Force Sword with Block Efficiency as well, and I think the Warp Resistance MAY play into how fast it builds.

But yeah you definitely can't stand there and tank gunners for more than a few seconds, but having an option to just say 'no' to ranged damage is still awesome imo.

[vestal finch]

I just changed out peril block for the one that reduces damage from gunners and it's craaazy how little damage I take now

[hidden coral]

Oooo can you pass that to me real quick? Promise I'll give it back 😅

[cyan notch]

yea its nice when u get ur toughness broken and dont wanna get chipped down just block and dodge

[vital bough]

Yeah, as well as those curios you mentioned earlier right? That's something around like 80% gunner resistance at 4 warp charges

[ashen cape]

Ello spark 'eads

[sand belfry]

Hello brute!

[vital bough]

[ashen cape]

Forgot me words. Always do

[vestal finch]

I'm gonna equip the lightsaber Big E gave me too

[ashen cape]

Em'prah gave spark 'ead sword? All em'prah ogryn was shovel

[vital bough]

The main reason I take the Force Sword with Reflector and grab the Peril block feat instead, is that the Gunner Resist perk only works for Toughness.
Meanwhile I can take the peril block and use it to 100% negate damage with Reflector and use Peril blocking for melee tankiness as well

But really that's all personal preference I guess

[lilac dune]

[night zinc]

anyone want to help those nonsense penances each other? I'm getting tired to burst myself into elites alone.

[obsidian lichen]

Upgrade any force sword you find just for the chance at Deflector. Once we get a full crafting system we should be able to put that on a good stat weapon (I think).

[vital bough]

I believe that's what the "Earn Blessings" button will be

[tight saddle]

I have no faith in the crafting system, but at least we'll be able to do something with it.

[vital bough]

What I'm curious about is, before you click "Entreat Hadron" at the upgrade area, there's a "Combine Blessings" button as well.
Wtf is that? lol

[tight saddle]

I think they said you can combine blessings to get a higher tier one.

[vital bough]

Okay that's what I was thinking

Just never had any confirmation

[primal aurora]

ugh, 15 more missions

[vital bough]

Something like two t2 blessings give you a random T4 blessing

[cyan notch]

coming soon in 2024

back to hourly rng shopping

[obsidian lichen]

That would be awful. It should merely be combining blessings to upgrade that blessing.

Combining to create a random one would just be heinous.

[idle shuttle]

how often is emps gift

random?

[ruby merlin]

Seems like they happen more at weekly refreshes

so it might be a limit per week

and if you play too much you get none later on in the week

[tawdry dove]

How does one do the monster penance?

[ruby merlin]

@tawdry dove I did it yesterday with a bunch of psykers on here

we trade roles

one perma blocks the daemonhost after aggroing it

the other bbs it

other two holds any mobs and specials that spawn

We can perma block a daemonhost post level 20

so just find 4 psykers who need it, wait for lights out, then do that mission on heresy

and kill all the daemonhosts

[celest oar]

ask someone for help, either fellow pysker or ogryn w shield

[ruby merlin]

Appeal to self interest so you all get the penance :D. It's the imperium after all haha.

There's usually some who need it on here.

Or ask general chat etc

[vital bough]

Might not be if you get a bunch of trash Blessings on good weapons, you take them off to replace the weapon's blessing with another, but now you're stuck holding on to a trash t2 blessing. Then you can turn it into something potentially useful.
Ideally I'd like to have that and a way to linearly upgrade blessings like you mentioned.

[celest oar]

i am just gonna wait for next update and see if they change the penances

they did mention reviewing them lol

[tawdry dove]

Good idea, I hope they do change those penances

[ruby merlin]

the 90% bb one is the easy one IMO

[celest oar]

a more reasonable amount that is doable without a premade would be 60% BB only dmg

[ruby merlin]

the others require a lot more coordination and some RNG

[celest oar]

difficult, but achievable in a pub

[tawdry dove]

It's easy when you're not* in rando with others

[ruby merlin]

If you get a nice pub they might let you do it

If I was in your pub group I'd help

It's fun to perma block daemonhosts anyway

since you still gotta dodge every now and then.

[vital bough]

BTW for anybody curious, I'm almost 100% sure that the "warp nexus" blessing (Crit Chance depending on peril) works for ALL WEAPONS.
Works for your BB and your melee not just the staff.

[celest oar]

its easy if you dont pub

[night zinc]

I'm still looking for people who want to do penances togther, please send dm.

[celest oar]

the rest are at least semi doable on pub

[ruby merlin]

@celest oar I just grabbed one guy in here, and another in the mourning star

then the last pug can usually be persuaded, peer pressure and all haha.

[celest oar]

not in apac

grouped with lots of non-eng speaking players

[ruby merlin]

ah I see

[tawdry dove]

I have a lot of problem communicating with non eng speaking players as well

PAIN

Thank you for guides guys, I'll see what I can do about the penance

[cyan notch]

wait for next week for fs to nerf penances

[ruby merlin]

I really want lights out to be way more common.

That really feels like the proper darktide experience to me haha

I mean it's even in the name XD

[vital bough]

It

[ruby merlin]

Spooky game on damnation or even heresy sometimes.

[vital bough]

It's really fun for sure

[ruby merlin]

Yeah I love it, and it encourages everyone to stay in coherency too.

Really felt like the trailer recon team.

[vital bough]

Changes the way you play and makes the purg and surge staff's much more visually satisfying

[tawdry dove]

Encourage Vets to use XII more hehe

[celest oar]

no

[ruby merlin]

The XII is so good on damnation anyway, perfect for killing the biggest threat (ranged trash).

[celest oar]

not with the dollar store flashlights

[ruby merlin]

I just love dark games. I mod my skyrim game to simulate IRL night darkness if there were no lights. And it totally changes the tone.

[celest oar]

we are in the space age doing orbital drops and shooting laser guns, but cant get a flashlight that lights up more than 5m. complete turn off when games do that

[ruby merlin]

The Imperium is dogmatic "Modifications are heretical, you scum"

You will get this ancient outdated design and you will like it

There was that time that they thought a paintjob STC which was 1% more efficient in terms of materials was chaos corrupted or something lol.

Because it caused some workers to go on strike since the hive world lost relevance (which was just one hive dedicated to painting tanks or something).

[left basin]

brainburst scaling - yay or nay

[ruby merlin]

And it took them centuries before they confirmed it wasn't corrupted. The Imperium is full of idiots, makes sense that their flashlights suck.

@left basin I play psyker as a tank, so I don't care 😛

But if they chose to nerf our tank to make bb better, I say no way.

If they buff bb, whatever, some people might like it.

[vital bough]

I think I'd be happy with BB if they had perks that supported better, instead of perks that make you ignore it more often.

[celest oar]

looking at how much "love" pysker gets.. i would say they are more likely to nerf us

[ruby merlin]

Imagine nerfing psyker when most people think vets are the OP ones. It'd be a riot.

[tawdry dove]

I can still hear other people saying nerf the power sword yadayada

[ruby merlin]

And zealots just cry with their thunderhammers ccing stuff when they could just kill it.

[celest oar]

if you noticed, pysker got the most nerfs from beta and have the least changes every patch since 1.0

[ruby merlin]

@celest oar If they don't change it from how it is now, I'd be fine with that.

Also BB is our grenade, so it's supposed to be a side thing like every other class.

[celest oar]

i did be fine so long as they dont change this... havent had enough fun yet

[ruby merlin]

Most use the staff more than 50% of the time, so it's in theme.

@celest oar Yeah animation cancel gets more skill in the game, so I'm all for it.

[stuck sinew]

Me with my deflector Force sword and peril for stamina when I see a las patrol
https://media.tenor.com/QGk8WCu_5r8AAAAM/the-rock-stop.gif

[vital bough]

How tf are you doing that?

[ruby merlin]

Animation cancelling

[celest oar]

press r the moment bolt leaves the staff

make a macro for it

[vital bough]

nah idc enough to macro

[celest oar]

theres also these two

[vital bough]

Me staring down the Dreg Gunner as it unloads into my Deflector Force Sword

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-40k-psychic-charge-up-gif-22247024

[cyan notch]

yea i love my one button perfect ewgf too

[ruby merlin]

@vital bough how many seconds do you last on damnation with that 😛

[cyan notch]

🥱

[primal aurora]

maybe he has over 100% block efficiency and actually unperils while blocking

[idle shuttle]

[celest oar]

imagine if... they give us animation cancel's animation as default.... one can always dream eh?

[ruby merlin]

Nah

Have it as tech 😛

[cyan notch]

they should have it as default tbh

if anyone can macro everyone should be able to

[celest oar]

speaking of tech, i want an engineer / tech priest class

[celest oar]

you can do it without macro

[cyan notch]

theres no skill gap for macroing might as well give it to everyone by default

for sure

[celest oar]

macro just helps me not break my fingers doing it

[cyan notch]

yea like i said i too like my 1 button perfect ewgf

[primal aurora]

proper tech priest wouldn't fit lorewise, maybe some kind of novice or malfunctioning skittari?

[celest oar]

techpriest condemned for some crime?

[ruby merlin]

A lot of top players in vt 2 didn't use macros because sometimes it delays a bit and kills you, so technically if you had perfect skill, manual is probably superior.

[celest oar]

i want sentries!!

[ruby merlin]

Those were for more complicated combos of course.

[vital bough]

The Mechanicus has it's own wing of Pysker's, it'd fit

[ruby merlin]

You can handwave everything, law of cool should win

[celest oar]

theres that techpriest in 40k matyr which can summon robots

[ornate hamlet]

Alternatively just have it be some tech adept since theyre basically nobodies lol

[patent hatch]

I just want a Tech Priest psyker and a kriegsman sharpshooter

then I shall be happy

[vestal finch]

It was a mistake to listen to all the soyboys praising the epic lightsaber blessing

It sucks

[ruby merlin]

Now you can go back to the antax or a dueling sword 😄

The catachan with the parry isn't actually bad either.

[celest oar]

whats the lightsaber blessing?

[ruby merlin]

Deflector

[vestal finch]

Deflector for Force Sword

[celest oar]

oh that

well... it has its uses

[ruby merlin]

You become a nice revive bot with it.

That's the main use lol

[vestal finch]

I had more success without it

A lot more

[celest oar]

btw do you use kinetic deflection with axe?

[vestal finch]

I'm not even sure the blessing works while you're reviving

[cyan notch]

it does

[celest oar]

its a super niche thing that needs kinetic deflector to work

[vestal finch]

If only it was on a good weapon!

[cyan notch]

fs is good

[celest oar]

i use fs to build peril for quell lol

[cyan notch]

elites nuke good push good push attack

[ruby merlin]

@celest oar Peril block? Yes for sure.

[cyan notch]

unlimited dodge

definitely not a bad weapon

[ruby merlin]

The passive quell on it makes melee blocking so much better

[celest oar]

nah

[ruby merlin]

Much easier to clutch if needed.

[celest oar]

just charge it, swap cancel, charge again

then quell

[ruby merlin]

Oh you mean the anti ranged damage perk? No.

I never actively quell unless I want to use the staff more.

Or need toughness faster.

[celest oar]

i need a good axe

game enjoys giving me trash

[ruby merlin]

Any antax is fun, try to get one with brutal momentum if you can for extra cleave power.

Dueling sword mk v dodges are great too

and the catachan parries can be pretty satisfying.

[uneven sparrow]

FS lets Psyker tank nuff said

[cyan notch]

its probably the feat that lets psyker tank

[celest oar]

its the feat not the sword

[ruby merlin]

@uneven sparrow I disagree, I tank so much harder with any other weapon.

If a boss is crushing my team on damnation in the middle of a horde? I can drag that boss, plus some specials, perma block, dodge and draw them away from my group

[celest oar]

i rather use mk V duel and dart around the map

[uneven sparrow]

Sorry I meant tank demonhosts

[ruby merlin]

while they clear the horde

@uneven sparrow Yes, I tank daemonhosts way better with my axe

because peril block + passive quell works better on the axe

force sword has slower passive quell

[tight saddle]

non FS weapons tank melee better, FS just lets you do ranged blocking at the cost of less melee blocking since you don't auto quench peril fast with a FS

[ruby merlin]

try it yourself in the psykanium

[cyan notch]

definitely more respectable

[uneven sparrow]

In the moment you don’t rely on pubs for clearing I’d rather deflect extra stuff

[ancient crag]

is the best antax horde combo just spamming push attacks?

[ruby merlin]

Light attack spam is superior

just not as safe

[uneven sparrow]

Otherwise the sword probably isn’t out

[ruby merlin]

(with brutal momentum)

[cyan notch]

push attack staggers everything

and is fast

[ruby merlin]

Light attack does more dps

one light attack = five dead enemies

on damnation.

(vs trash of course)

You'll get far more of those "psyker, you're killing well etc" comments with light attacks.

[celest oar]

the irony when one of the best weapons in the lore sucks in the game

[ruby merlin]

So combine the two, light attack when you're safe, so you could push attack, light attack, repeat etc. Or full light attack if you feel safe.

[ancient crag]

I'm still leveling my psyker (level 15) and was using the dueling sword mk2 so far, picked up some random white antax and was wondering if it'd be worth switching over

[subtle monolith]

best level 15 talent?

[tight saddle]

if they make 2h force sword have the Bretonnian Longsword moveset I'm going to cream my pants and play nothing else

[ruby merlin]

@ancient crag Dueling sword mk v is used for superior mobility and nice heavy attack headshots.

Antax is better for survival in horde

[celest oar]

i am praying to the emperor power maul next week is similar to the power sword and not thunder hammer

[uneven sparrow]

Plus it charges

[ruby merlin]

Thunderhammer should aoe at the point of impact

would make it more fun

(if you charge it)

[cyan notch]

never liked bret sword i juse used exe sword

[uneven sparrow]

Having a special click attack is a + on anything

[celest oar]

imagine if a giant ass 2 handed ogryn maul... can only hit one enemy on special attack

i think i might just rage quit lolz

[ruby merlin]

Rofl

[uneven sparrow]

Not for meta again for fun

Same reason I have head pop over soulfire

[tight saddle]

exe sword is for when I want big sword kill, bret longsword is when I want to dance around freestyling

[ruby merlin]

I want a spear for shade equivalent weapon here.

Gimme my xenos 😛

[tight saddle]

I could never get the hang of spear, its moveset never meshed well with my playstyle

[ruby merlin]

I love the headshot focused playstyle.

[ornate hamlet]

Someone brainburst this user

[languid plinth]

Quick noob question, what does “charging power” do? I just “charge on targets” instead.

[ruby merlin]

My psyker hates the Imperium, which is why I picked her. Everyone likes the ogryns though (the nice one, not the bully).

[languid plinth]

Like nothing happens when i charge power on an enemy

[ruby merlin]

Too many imperium fanboys, so having a character that calls the Emp a "carrion lord" is pretty hilarious.

[cyan notch]

yea but exe sword has headshot sound

[tight saddle]

I can't wait to try this for fun lmao

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle I think one of those has a lot of stab attacks, which are harder to aim.

[tight saddle]

idk the difference in mks for the dueling swords though since I rarely used them

[ruby merlin]

Also the dodge range is a lot less.

Mk V = giant dodge range, downward attack that can't really cleave anything, but great for headshots.

mk iv cleaves more, but has a stab heavy attack I think.

and I forgot mk ii

[languid plinth]

Anyone?

[tight saddle]

mk 2

[ruby merlin]

I have no clue what you're referring to, some context would be great.

Since we just call the stuff by their effects a lot lol.

Perk names are hard to remember sometimes

[uneven sparrow]

The mk2 is good

[tight saddle]

what's this referring to? a perk, a blessing, a feat?

[ruby merlin]

If it's the charge bar on a staff

that's the charge speed

[languid plinth]

When you use your psyker special power by pressing “G” as the default input. You can right or click on a target, right?

I’m referring to brainburst

[ruby merlin]

so bb you can precharge without seeing anyone (right mouse).

Left click charges only after you have line of sight

[tight saddle]

right click lets you pre-cast it so it's ready when you need it at the cost of building up peril while holding it at the ready. Left click is to lock on and only use as much peril as it takes to execute that one BB

[ruby merlin]

right click is very situational. Left click on damnation is only really for snipers and maybe specials that are running away.

[uneven sparrow]

If you alt burst you use a lot more peril

[cyan notch]

right click is charging left click is lock then charge

[ruby merlin]

also ogryns after you ultimate.

Right click charging is for lower diffs where say poxbursters die in one bb

so you precharge when you hear it, insta pop them when they show up for instance.

[vestal finch]

I wish the Carrion Lord would send me a Force Sword with good mobility in the mail instead of all these guns

[ruby merlin]

But in damnation they take two bbs, so just push them and dodge back

or surge staff

[celest oar]

i confess to never using the right click ever

[languid plinth]

How can I cast it after charging it “pressing right click”?

[uneven sparrow]

Alt burst is for countering specials after their audio cue i feel like

[tight saddle]

left click while holding right click

[ruby merlin]

@languid plinth left click once the bar is full

[uneven sparrow]

Specifically dogs

[ruby merlin]

aim at the enemy of course.

Dogs take multiple bbs on damnation

so not really either for them.

[tight saddle]

or you can continue the charge where it was by holding left click if the bar hasn't filled up yet

[ruby merlin]

You'd be better off using a staff on them.

[uneven sparrow]

I guess damnation is the only difficulty worth discussing

[cyan notch]

you dont have to wait for full charge

[analog juniper]

it has limited use tbh, but good for getting dogs, bursters or snipers sometimes

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle yeah that too.

[cyan notch]

u can just carry over the charge

[ruby merlin]

It's more of a low diff thing, I can't imagine it being that useful, unless you want to deliberately build peril fast.

[tight saddle]

it's good for instant snipe deletes when you are just out of range, too bad railings fuck that up every time and you take extra peril lmfao

[ruby merlin]

Which can be nice for toughness on quell.

Especially if your staff is too efficient 😛

[uneven sparrow]

Honestly its not practical im just trying to lead them to the penance

[languid plinth]

I guess left clicking is more useful then since you’d have to target someone anyway

[rigid widget]

Hello fellow Psykers.

[ruby merlin]

Yeah just jump sometimes, you get los,back into cover and scan your back

while holding it

[tight saddle]

yep, left click is used a vast majority of the time, right click is rare

[ruby merlin]

no need to look at a target while you are in mid bb with left click, which is the main draw

[rigid widget]

Do any of you ever use a gun instead of staff at level Heresy+?

[ruby merlin]

can kill stuff safely from cover while watching your back

You can for sure if you want.

It's all doable.

[tight saddle]

or stare at your teammates endearingly while BBing behind cover if there is no danger

[undone elm]

in no longer recommending this game until they fix the broken cover problem

[vestal finch]

But he wouldn't recommend it. That's why he's putting a period after every sentence.

[cyan notch]

i used gun for torchlight lmao

[languid plinth]

Sweet. So I don’t have to aim anymore lol. I only have to make sure that I’m facing the right direction of enemies

[undone elm]

what is the point of crouching is cover can just be shot over or through like its just pointless

[languid plinth]

Good tactic

[tight saddle]

you don't have to be facing enemies when you start the BB lock on

[ruby merlin]

@languid plinth you don't need to face any direction at all if your target is already locked and you're charging a left click attack

[tight saddle]

you can look down at your dick while BBing is already locked on

[undone elm]

yea BB then go into cover

[rigid widget]

I'd end up spamming the Voidstrike alt fire to light stuff up, lol.

[ruby merlin]

so you can spin 180 degrees

and check your back

since that's important 😛

It's a good habit to watch your back, because pug teammates generally don't

[languid plinth]

Damn. That’s awesome lol

[ruby merlin]

then one burster comes in and nukes you.

[languid plinth]

And here I was wondering why I die first

[ruby merlin]

(because low levels don't use audio cues)

[uneven sparrow]

Thats period

[tight saddle]

you can even slide backwards and sideways while BBing to dodge enemies attacking you to safely continue the BB charge

[ruby merlin]

Yes, sliding and dodging are key because ranged can't hit you mid dodge or slide.

same for melee unless you slide into some power attack haha.

Basically the main mechanics for the game is pushing, dodging, and blocking.

Learn those, and you will be able to do damnation.

[languid plinth]

Thank you so much for the help, guys. That helped me alot.

[tight saddle]

you can also slide while casting, quenching, blocking, meleeing, jerking off/ etc.

[ruby merlin]

Just slide forwards instead of sprinting at all times 😛

No stam burn, almost as fast, much safer etc

(for all those sprinters, I hate sprinters tbh)

[languid plinth]

Yeah, they can target you while sprinting, so sliding is safer

[ruby merlin]

Also sprint burns too much stamina. Like for instance you can push a pox burster mid jump and dodge back to avoid it and kill it at the same time

but at low stam that can fail.

[uneven sparrow]

Its there to predict stuff that comes idk why he has to be like no lol

[tame thistle]

I personally use the right click on the Brain Burst a lot. So that I can prepare ahead of time for an instant kill against incoming hounds or mutants

[ruby merlin]

It doesn't one shot hounds on higher diffs

and mutants are super tanky to bb

so you might as well just stun it with your staff instead.

[lethal plover]

BB is not meant for dogs and mutants on damnation

[ruby merlin]

More useful

[uneven sparrow]

I love arguing online

[tame thistle]

Maybe not later but it still helps

[uneven sparrow]

It’s my fav

[ruby merlin]

You could surge it, and then cc it for your team. Or surge it, swap to axe, hit it once or twice and it dies 😛

[languid plinth]

Interesting. I still gotta unlock the staff first though lol

[ruby merlin]

mutants melt to axe light attacks.

[tight saddle]

the fact that I can't surge and one shot it with fs special makes me sad

[ruby merlin]

Yeah that should really be a thing.

[tight saddle]

it's so cool to do

[ruby merlin]

axe feels so much better vs mutants especially

since you do so much dps with them.

[lethal plover]

Arguably the whole point of bringing surge is to disable mutants

[tight saddle]

like sure I just fs special as it flies past me when I dodge it, but it's not as cool

[ruby merlin]

@lethal plover Yep, and also for those situations where you're swamped with specials in a tight space for some reason. Then your team just mops up.

[uneven sparrow]

[lethal plover]

I got like 2 mutants and a dog and trappers in last night game. Surge did save my team by delaying them

[ruby merlin]

Like there's a lot of stuff that is designed for a lower diff, and I feel right click bb is basically unusable on damnation unless you want a lot of peril fast to quell for toughness 😛

[tame thistle]

The disabling is very good indeed.
At the condition that your team mates seize the occasion instead of just running away.

[ruby merlin]

I mean damnation pugs are generally not clueless

they know how to tag on average, and to focus disablers/bombers/snipers.

[tame thistle]

I do not play damnation yet. I am not confident enough

[ruby merlin]

Just pug it

failing is the most fun

[lethal plover]

[ruby merlin]

If you can sleep through malice, that's no fun at all

[uneven sparrow]

The team is grateful but I still go where’s my damage

[ruby merlin]

I mean you saved the run, that's carrying 😛

[lethal plover]

Where's my damage when a dog is on me

[ruby merlin]

imagine if the two mutants grabbed, dog gets the leap and trapper traps.

that's gg

[tame thistle]

Specials are a bane worth sacrificing damage output for

[lethal plover]

Turns out game does not let me do damage when dog gets me

[tame thistle]

A dead team does no damage

[uneven sparrow]

I mean that’s how I feel when surging but I’m probably doing something wrong or don’t have the right roll

[ruby merlin]

you can surge, switch to axe and get in some really good light hits in fast.

If it's a dog/mutant etc

tons of dps

[tame thistle]

Surging does feel underwhelming if you do not see it directly stopping mutants in their charge, I give you that

[tight saddle]

my last damnation run earlier was me and this preacher 2 manning the whole mission since our vet and other Psyker were perma dead lmao

[lethal plover]

1k for each light axe attack on mutie

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle oof haha, but those are fun when you carry

and usually the dead guys compliment you, so that's nice XD

[tight saddle]

hell yeah they are, me and the preacher were having a blast, even if we failed it I wouldn't care since it's so fun to do

[ruby merlin]

Yep exactly

[uneven sparrow]

I forgot abt this, im back at panic dodge minigame status

[lethal plover]

Anyone ran with a guy called JohnWarhammer ?

[ruby merlin]

would rather fail one really close damnation run doing my best than clearing 10 malice while basically sleeping.

[lethal plover]

That guy could certainly play

[tight saddle]

the perma dead psyker learned a lot of psyker tech though and kept asking me how I did some of the tech

[ruby merlin]

Yeah that's always fun!

[tight saddle]

so I'm having to talk while clutching with the peracher lmfao

[tame thistle]

The best panic button is F

[ruby merlin]

@tight saddle One thing I 100% hate is how when you hit 30, you only queue with 30s

[uneven sparrow]

Psyker training camp

[ruby merlin]

I want to queue with level 8s in heresy or something and show them some tech etc.

Would be fun

[lethal plover]

What's the tech he asked about

[tame thistle]

I am not that good yet. Maybe when I get there 💜

[ruby merlin]

@tame thistle Do heresy if you're not there, it's pretty close!

If you can do heresy with no big issues, you can do damnation basically.

@tame thistle Also lights out is great, I love that mode.

[tame thistle]

I am RELATIVELY at ease in dif 3. Most of the time...

[uneven sparrow]

Im a lot worse if see a low level Psyker in dif 3/4 I say you’re bursting specials brother

That’s all the training they get

[ruby merlin]

Yeah just do heresy, never be at ease 🙂

[uneven sparrow]

Lol

[ruby merlin]

You'll improve so much faster

[tame thistle]

Without being able to take a flashlight I find it more frustrating than it is fun

[ruby merlin]

And have more fun.

[shut thorn]

Ngl heresy isn't that difficult, it's just getting used to actually having awareness

[ruby merlin]

@tame thistle You can surge to detect enemies, look for green eyes. Also voidstaff as a flashlight lol.

[tight saddle]

infinite surge charge attack at max peril, qq cancel fs light/heavy for faster horde/elite clear, his sliding was lacking so I gave him tips on that, and he was wondering why i rarely quenched

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn Yeah, it's just for people who are new, heresy is a lot of fun because they build up that awareness.

@shut thorn I really wish we could queue with level 10s or something on heresy, but as a 30 we only seem to queue with other 30s 😦

because full squad heresy is such a stomp.

[tame thistle]

Give me reasons to take the void staff back to my friendsn detriment 💜
They hate when I take it because then I leave nothing for them to hack through

[shut thorn]

I've been queueing with low lvl psykers on t4, i think it's regional

Low lvl ogryns tend to be assholes for no reason though

[ruby merlin]

Wait really?

[uneven sparrow]

There’s a few low levels of all the classes on the higher difs weirdly

[ruby merlin]

Almost every ogryn I've run into was some friendly ogryn RP guy lol.

[shut thorn]

Yeah, tried to give me shit despite me basically clearing everything via inf surge

[ruby merlin]

XD

[uneven sparrow]

I only trust the ogryns because they’re ogryns and the psykers because I can designate them to brain burst

I don’t know what to tell a low level zealot or veteran

[tame thistle]

RP as an Ogryn is both easy and fun.

[tight saddle]

nearly all my Ogryns are chill, but the most vile and toxic player I've ran into so far was an Ogryn

[lethal plover]

Kek

[shut thorn]

I like playing with ogryns, just I'm in eastern europe so it's a given that /those/ types of people pick ogryn/vet and then try to coach whilst knowing nothing abt how classes play

[tame thistle]

"Me protec' you boss. Like Sky God!"

[shut thorn]

The Z creatures

[uneven sparrow]

ogryn after too much mistreatment

[fleet osprey]

Who told them to worship a heretical sky god

[ruby merlin]

Peril block revive an ogryn once, and they stick to you like a pet, it's great.

Also the female loner psyker gets along pretty well with ogryns I think.

[tame thistle]

That is why you never make an Ogryn angry

[uneven sparrow]

“STICK TOGETHER!!!”

[ruby merlin]

Aside from the snide jokes about them following orders because they're too stupid to do otherwise lol.

[uneven sparrow]

activates every special in 50 yards

[lethal plover]

What's the speed of horde clearing with fs

[magic hull]

psykers no different my guy

im trying to enjoy my purga and i have this one dude lecturing me about why surge is the best build and blah blah

[shut thorn]

They're right 😎

But doing that ingame is cringe

[magic hull]

it doesnt matter just dont ruin peoples preference

[tame thistle]

I like to think that toxic players are everywhere. Specially in the classes dubbed as "the meta's strongest" though.

[shut thorn]

Yeah I have nothing against other psykers, esp if they run trauma I try to protect them cuz I feel bad

[tight saddle]

idk how to answer that, but comparing it to itself it's a night and day difference using it. I rarely have to push inside a horde I just dodge and light qq cancel

[fleet osprey]

Meta strongest but still rely on another glass

[tame thistle]

Makes it globally Veteran and Ogryn.

[shut thorn]

Seeing a trauma psyker is like seeing someone in a wheelchair

[ruby merlin]

@magic hull I mean if you're in a premade it makes sense to talk about weapon choices, just to play around with diff setups. In pugs it's pointless though.

[lethal plover]

Do you have videos of that? Would be nice to see

[ruby merlin]

Since it's not like you can change it post launch

[uneven sparrow]

I’ll take Professor X for $100 Alex

[shut thorn]

Ngl it's kinda in the name, they're a trauma victim

[ruby merlin]

Though laughing at psykers using guns should be a thing I feel, especially if they don't know how to melee in a horde lol. If they can melee fine I'm good with it.

[lethal plover]

You're trying too hard brother

[tight saddle]

I'll send you one let me clip

[tame thistle]

I am sure that the trauma staff has its uses. Though I cannot see any where it is not overshadowed by the others

[shut thorn]

I still see recon lasgun psykers because a ytber told them to do it

[ruby merlin]

@tame thistle High burst dps in a chokepoint basically.

With high stagger

should melt even ogryns on damnation.

[shut thorn]

Speaking of which, that damnation build being featured

why

[ruby merlin]

@shut thorn I'm fine with that as long as they can melee. If they die instantly to a horde, I will mock them lol.

[magic hull]

im pretty aware of how good other staffs are, but seeing people forcing me to pick how i play is pretty cringe ngl

[tame thistle]

I have a thing for purgatus in choke points

[ruby merlin]

Trauma also sounds pretty meaty

[magic hull]

everytime a dude lecturing me about these stuffs i already know i just say ''ok cool anyways'

[tight saddle]

damn gotta trim it to fit disc limit

[lethal plover]

360 push. No staff does that. Also sends crushers flying, oneshots bursters, and controls dogs easily. A mix between horde clearing and surge control.

[shut thorn]

Purg is fine

If they're trying to minmax, they shouldn't be playing pub

[tame thistle]

Now you make me feel like giving it a try

[ruby merlin]

Yeah the first time I went from trauma to surge in closed beta, I did not like surge

[magic hull]

its not pub prob like a semi priv lobby

[ruby merlin]

because trauma let me cc way more at once

(as long as we used chokes)

[shut thorn]

yeah people just didnt realize its potential ngl

[ruby merlin]

over time I liked the mobile nature of surge

[shut thorn]

I think the biggest issue ppl have with surge is

When they first get it theyre prob using a force sword

[magic hull]

i have learnt the art of animation cancel for surge

[shut thorn]

So they have no good way of getting rid of peril

[ruby merlin]

Yep, then I used an axe and it was a match made in heaven.

[lethal plover]

really? I think people liked surge from day one

[cyan notch]

i mean force sword still drains peril

[lethal plover]

you would be rewriting history if you think surge was never popular

[pallid dock]

having observed these discussions since closed beta in october I am happy to report that I have seen countless claims about every single weapon either being op, trash or slept upon.

[shut thorn]

No, a lot of people were straight up dismissing it

[cyan notch]

its not horrible by any means

[shut thorn]

Trauma is being slept upon.......

[tame thistle]

In a general manner, forcing someone to play X or Y weapon is counterproductive in my opinion.
If it does not come from them, they will just have a bad time with it and perform badly, regardless of how good/overpowered the weapon is.

Better just guiding and advising.

[shut thorn]

The hidden trauma tech :)

(doesn't exist)

[cyan notch]

hidden trauma tech is exploding the air cuz you aimed too high

[ruby merlin]

It could be possible in a tourney setting trauma could see some use if we get like damnation 3+ with higher stagger requirements on mobs (like those mods on vt2).

[magic hull]

if you find a good trauma player, don't laugh at him, he's actually a chad and is way better than any psyker alive

[analog juniper]

Yes, because the people who use it got overrun by the DarkTide

[magic hull]

found this dude on t5, bro plays trauma full sweat and clutched

[cyan notch]

gotta have damnation 2 before damnation 3

[ruby merlin]

@lethal plover It's just really satisfying to make stuff go flying with trauma haha

[shut thorn]

Trauma, if it's dmg gets fixed, will be actually really good

But.......

Fatshark

[analog juniper]

it's just too much peril

[lethal plover]

also spam at feet to do 360 push and clear space for even bigger explosion chains

[cyan notch]

the targeting for trauma is still garbage

[analog juniper]

yes

[ruby merlin]

that ground aoe spam is exactly how I used it in beta lol

it was great

[lethal plover]

trauma pairs the best with purgatus because trauma can control the big guys

[ruby merlin]

Like 3 ragers and 2 maulers + a dog? That's nice, I just perma stagger you + some random hordes in the mix too.

[shut thorn]

Ngl, I think psykers are gonna get a worse rep because of the featured "damnation" build