psyker-class

[tight saddle]

No? You said in Damnation, not Heresy.

[grave bobcat]

Oh cmo

lol

As if that changes anyting

[tight saddle]

It does

[grave bobcat]

The players are still the same quality just braver lol

"Damnation? I got this"

[raven scarab]

what should i look at on a voidstrike staff?
like on fire staff i should focus burn and cloud radius

[spare niche]

Auto pistol best weapon

[tight saddle]

So fun

[spare niche]

I honestly had so much fun yesterday with it

Made me wanna make a vet and go ham

[grave bobcat]

Do I upg a Green Curio or Green force sword and hope I get what I Want

[spare niche]

Depends if it’s worth it

[grave bobcat]

Well FS is for deflector and curio is gunner resist

[tight saddle]

FS gamble

[grave bobcat]

both are worth

FS it is

Precog lmfao

[spare niche]

Do both

[grave bobcat]

Another dead sword

[tight saddle]

here's my latest FS gamble

[grave bobcat]

Not enough mats

[spare niche]

Get gud kid

Just dodge loads be doing mega damage

[grave bobcat]

I'm prob just gonna ornage this one and gamba for deflector

Cause its a decent enough roll

[spare niche]

Fairs

[tight saddle]

fucking nice

[spare niche]

Hopefully

I’ll be praying

[grave bobcat]

I've already lost 2 370+ FS 🥲

So another cant hurt

[celest oar]

they really need to change some of the blessings we can get

[tight saddle]

It took me 160 hours to get a single deflector FS and it kinda sucks

[raven scarab]

is this any good?

[grave bobcat]

I'm at 56 hrs rn

[spare niche]

Nah

That ain’t good mate

[celest oar]

majority of the blessings are boring and useless. They could have went with some interesting ones

[spare niche]

U wanna aim for around 350+ really

[tight saddle]

are you still leveling?

[raven scarab]

yup

[paper trail]

339 though if you dont own a voidstrike staff already just take it anywa

[celest oar]

then yes

[wanton cove]

i like the transfer peril blessing

[tight saddle]

it will do well while leveling, you can use it, but the Blessing on it doesn't work on that weapon

[grave bobcat]

If you don't have anything generally above 340 buy those but I'd say always buy anything 360+ cause it's a good roll regardless if you use it now or later

And dockets are ez

[paper trail]

it might work with LMB but I haven't tested that

[celest oar]

transfer peril and deflector are the only 2 blessings that change the way a weapon feels (for pysker)

[tight saddle]

but voidstrike staff alone is very versatile and does well even with poor blessings since voidstrike is bugged right now (in a good way)

[wanton cove]

Thats kinda lame tbh

[celest oar]

the rest be like, oh hey heres 3% more damage

[grave bobcat]

I got Warp Flurry workin ONLY for the Voidstrike staff too

[raven scarab]

perk doesnt work on it?
srry ping

[grave bobcat]

But... it's pointless lol

[tight saddle]

np, but yeah a few blessings don't work on staffs even though they can roll them

[celest oar]

the blessing only works for the primary attack, the lmb attack

the main point of the staff is the rmb attack

which it dosent work

[grave bobcat]

Nah it works for the rmb

too I'm sure

[celest oar]

in fact, i feel like its decreasing my damage when i went to pyskarium

[grave bobcat]

I feel like ichecked this already

[supple skiff]

with how many of these don't work Im not surprised most of the blessings are lame passives, less likely to notice them being borked on launch lol

[celest oar]

nah i checked this just ystd

[supple skiff]

if an active doesn't work you know right away

[grave bobcat]

Well I'm waiting for shard to get out of mission so guess I'll look too

If i have one

[celest oar]

terrifying barrage dosent work either

[grave bobcat]

Nvm dont have a VS with Salvo

[celest oar]

1st hit

[timber fable]

This seems good right?

[supple skiff]

Ive test void salvo, seemed to work

[celest oar]

both full charged

2nd hit

[grave bobcat]

Yeah

Now you roll it for deflector 🥲

[grave bobcat]

ew

Also do it on the unarmored bois

easier to see lol

Why go straight for carapace 🥲

[celest oar]

because they will just die

this is normal attack

[grave bobcat]

Damntrue

Ragers?

[celest oar]

pretty sure they will be dead on my 2nd full charged hit xD

[tight saddle]

my VS also has that stupid blessing lol

[grave bobcat]

Can't remember howm uch hp they have but if they do die do it on the mutie then lol

I rlly like my new surge staff

max warp res, charge rate, and crit bonus

[deft fiber]

So, which stats are useful for surge staff?

[grave bobcat]

Guess I'll try T4 since nobody runnin

[tight saddle]

same lol

[grave bobcat]

Inv me

[tall dune]

They should very seriously reconsider reworking the penances because far from being achievements they feel like chores (or neigh-impossible/luck based chores)

[grave bobcat]

I prioritise the ones I just listed above 🙂

Cause the dmg barely changes

[celest oar]

its 379 damage on 1st 2nd and 3rd hit for reapers

either ways, it means it isnt working

[tall dune]

For example the Pick N Mix one is just pure luck because by the time you can even pull off killing 5 elites with bb it doesn't count the fact that your teammates will actually kill any of them before you can (even ones you are already charging)

[grave bobcat]

And since you just spam rather than charging, charge rate gets it a little higher before the shoot delay

[grave bobcat]

Lame

[tight saddle]

friend code?

[grave bobcat]

77118793

[celest oar]

yea its 379 on 1st and 2nd hit for a rager, it died on the 2nd so i cant see further 🤣

[grave bobcat]

L

[celest oar]

not sure why the damage decreased on 2nd hit for a crusher, but either ways the blessing isnt working for secondary fire

[near wyvern]

It only works for the left click

[grave bobcat]

Keth are you west coast?

[tight saddle]

central

[celest oar]

yep thats what i mentioned

[near wyvern]

It depends what part of the crusher you hit.

[grave bobcat]

I can feel it in the lobby 🥲 this is gonna be rough lol

will just play more cautious

[tight saddle]

yeah I won't blame you if you leave tbh, I can't stand high ping

[grave bobcat]

It's not TOO bad and used to it with a lot of NA friends anyway

[tight saddle]

I mostly only play PvP games, so I'm very sensitive to ping lmao

[grave bobcat]

Yee I care wheni its PVP 🥲

[celest oar]

they could have given us interesting blessings, heck just giving us soulburn on crits for the surge staff would have made things super interesting

[grave bobcat]

Should be fine

[celest oar]

instead they take out all the interesting stuff and make everything boring af

[grave bobcat]

Hordes are always fun on ping cause you just start getting hit out of nowhere

and shit thats jittering around lol

[near wyvern]

Zealot flamer + horde = welcome to the slide show

[supple skiff]

don't know how many times I've had bad ping stop a charged void strike from firing

[celest oar]

imagine if theres friendly fire and the flamer gets friendly fire

[near wyvern]

Warhammer 40K: Power Point

[celest oar]

if darktide had friendly fire.... it would be interesting lolz

[supple skiff]

mega ogryn nerf

[celest oar]

if anyone ever played aliens fireteam, thats what it would feel like

[near wyvern]

That would be hilarious for a short event

[celest oar]

walk in front of a flamethrower and instant death

strafe around the corridor and instant death

[spare niche]

who got the meme

LOL

[celest oar]

the first thing we did need to learn is not to strafe or dodge

[glass glen]

very cool

[spare niche]

im gonna be so safe

im dying

💀

[glass glen]

they gunna form a circle around you

[celest oar]

do they know whats the anti-manifestation protocol?

[near wyvern]

Pls say you picked the surge and kinetic deflection for the Grand Turtle team

[glossy hemlock]

need some advice on pursuing the penance Pick n Mix

[primal aurora]

Ahahah, damn, just had an assassination mission, dark, on Heresy with 3 psykers. And our team picked up Grimuares...

[fleet osprey]

u can destroy them right?

[cyan notch]

blackout is ez theres less enemies

i think enemies have less range too

[primal aurora]

I remember one blackout mission with 7 snipers spawned on starting bridge. They didn't have less range

[fleet osprey]

ouch

reminds me of a sniper that sniped me through a horde through a small hole in the window of a room i was hiding in

[paper trail]

the worst is the holes in walkways that some mobs just shoot directly downwards through from above you

[fleet osprey]

their AIs have aim bot

[paper trail]

just pissing a bullet shower straight into your head

[near wyvern]

Apparently you don't need them to be of different type, as long as you kill 5 elites/specials with BB you are good

Best done in a premade, the fastest way is to find a mission (herecy or damnation) with increased special spawns ( orange ^ icon on the mission image) with any mission that has a big opening as the first fight

Then you just reset that mission and try to get a roll where you have 5 you can one shot. Alternatively your team can try to set you up and if you don't get it on the first encounter, reset (leave mission and start a new one)

[kindred edge]

You can. I'm leveling my psyker right now, and last night somebody discovered that you can destroy grimoires while we were in the elevator to the boss room.

All that struggle 🥲

[fleet osprey]

feels like i should just reroll grimoire collecting quests

[wicked grove]

tbh you should

[near wyvern]

Yes.

Just pray you won't get the complete 25 missions weekly

That's even worse

[fleet osprey]

im struggling with quests to clear secondary objectives

its either grimoires or scriptures

[lucid mortar]

Just drop the difficulty so you can casually explore. Scrips are easier

[fleet osprey]

then i have one where there is no deaths

[lucid mortar]

But yeah I always re-roll the map-specific secondary quest

I do the 25 scrips one

[fleet osprey]

everyone gets magnetically attracted to daemonhosts sadly

[tropic halo]

Yeah I had to do sedition runs to finish that one. Legitimately took my joy out of the game

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's funny that they have a quest to complete specific map but then you can't even choose that map if you have bad RNG with the mission selection

[fleet osprey]

they need more quests

like more assisination side quests

[devout moon]

So what do you all think about this build with a Surge Staff and Force sword

[tight saddle]

@grave bobcat CTD

getting back on

[grave bobcat]

Just saw 😛

[near wyvern]

20min per mission * 25 missions = 500min aka 8 hours and 20 minutes.

We are talking about a work day with no breaks in between just to get one mission done.

[tropic halo]

Mind in motion ain't worth it over peril blocking. You can easily dodge and slide for maneuverability when you actively quell @devout moon

[near wyvern]

Your build with surge staff doesn't matter as long as you take quietitude and kinetic deflection

[devout moon]

👍

[tropic halo]

Nobody on my friends list plays this game anymore because of stuff like this

Im finally hitting that wall too now honestly

[near wyvern]

Well it's quite hard if you have a job and a family and then only 4 to 8 hours per week for gaming, most have less.

[fleet osprey]

whoop rerolled into kill 5 monster

[near wyvern]

That's easy

[fleet osprey]

fck side questing

[tropic halo]

Yeah it's why I had to do sedition runs because I have work today. Fat shark has no respect for our time. The ring stores are a joke

[fleet osprey]

the sad joke is that I ALREADY DID THAT MISSION

[near wyvern]

Just remember to run kinetic deflection with a regular melee weapon and then if there is a demonhost tell your team you need it and offer to tank it.

Works every time, easy monster kills

[fleet osprey]

or i find an orygn with a shield

[spare niche]

i did indeed

[tropic halo]

I'm getting tired of the games flaws and the combat being satisfying is starting to be not enough to feel like it's warranting the time investment

[spare niche]

best game ever

[tropic halo]

I kinda am more tempted to go play vermintide than dt

Bleh

[random wolf]

Go take a break. Lol

[spare niche]

id say shop should reroll every 30 minutes

or so

i think an hour is too much

or lets say 25 mins

cause most games go on for 25

so u finish a game check shop

so on

[tropic halo]

Yeah probably

[nimble burrow]

Not like there’s anything worth working for in Sir Melk’s shop anyway! Ignore the weeklies for yall sanity.

[tropic halo]

Sad part is there ain't much else to do in the game and the crafting system with the whole materials is also just exhausting. You are either lucky or you ain't and no amount of skill or time is gonna change that

[grave bobcat]

I couldn't type it in-game 🥲

But what stunlock you mean

Just restarting my game

Before another tome get sucked into the void

[tight saddle]

When you lose all your toughness you get stunned briefly by ranged units, when you regenerate even 1 toughness and lose it again you get stunned again, so if you keep regenerating toughness quickly while being shot they keep doing the stun on your when your toughness breaks.

[smoky linden]

Sire Melk can suck a fat one

[tight saddle]

So you can get stunlocked like that and can't do anything.

[grave bobcat]

Ah ye

That's what I thought you meant so I was wondering why toughness stacking isn't the solution lol

I don't think it happened even once to me

[prime needle]

What is the timer for emperors gifts?

[tight saddle]

It happens more often to Zealots with the Feat that regenerates Toughness when you're near 3 enemies or more.

[grave bobcat]

Oh the actual even of your toughness being 0'd stuns you

Fair

[tight saddle]

The guy who died to it in our game was the Zealot.

He had the feat and was in a horde while the ranged units kept reducing his toughness to 0 over and over.

[grave bobcat]

Lmao

Ngl thats pretty funny

"Please stop"

[tight saddle]

It can happen to us Psykers if you're running lvl 5 feat 1 and your soulblaze keeps giving you warp stacks

[grave bobcat]

Imma still say toughness stacking is the solution 🥲

Eh?

Oh

Cause it bleeds intoi

Aight back in-game can inv whenevr

1 min till shop too

[tight saddle]

are you set to invisible?

[grave bobcat]

nop

[wintry gust]

Hi where i can find players to play with?

[grave bobcat]

Not here 😠

Psykers hate gorups

lol

[wintry gust]

I hate random people

[tight saddle]

This Discord has LFG channels.

[grave bobcat]

You can swap to Voidstrike if you want

[tight saddle]

Or you can ask in the class channels as well.

[grave bobcat]

Since I'm already Surge

[tight saddle]

I feel like purging or trauma

[grave bobcat]

Only times I took fuckin damage that game was being actually summoned into the Mutie's embrace from across the fuckin room

[tight saddle]

I was using void a lot earlier already

[wintry gust]

what does that shortcuts mean?

[grave bobcat]

You do you just easier if we have both elite and horde clearing 😛

[wintry gust]

nasa

[grave bobcat]

I don't remember if I clipped that mutie

[wintry gust]

emea apac etc

[tight saddle]

my force sword sucks so much ass

[leaden needle]

regions to find groupsna/eu/asia/gamepass

[hot tulip]

Who wants to 4 Psyker damnation? One for each staff and the last one gunpsyker

[grave bobcat]

Same

Doodoo shop as always

Traits fixed to

[tight saddle]

ok gonna purg soulblze stack for fun

[hot tulip]

Copy that

[grave bobcat]

I can't make that build work for me

[hot tulip]

Gonna BB trash mobs

[grave bobcat]

😠

[tropic halo]

Bb and staff melee only damnation run in a desert map

[hot tulip]

I HAVE to BB the common mob in front of me, it's a direct threat to me

The sniper can wait

[tropic halo]

You do that, you are the best psyker in the entire game

[grave bobcat]

Who tf let one of my Damnation randoms in here

[grave bobcat]

shoo

[hot tulip]

Milk sucks

[grave bobcat]

Further validating my point

[tight saddle]

tbh I had a really easy Damnation run with randoms once and it was 1 surge 1 purg 2 void Psykers.

[hot tulip]

I'm sorry I'm toxic

[tight saddle]

shit was funny

[grave bobcat]

Yeah I've had a few easy runs they're not all bad

[tropic halo]

That's a nice group right there

[grave bobcat]

And the bad ones just end in 5 mins anyway

a fun one was 3 zealots and me

[proud mantle]

me when i want new psyker staffs

[fleet osprey]

how good is the mk5 axe?

[devout axle]

Obligatory poll repost.
https://strawpoll.com/polls/2ayLWYkdMZ4

[devout axle]

I feel your pain, sibling.

[untold surge]

Gross tactical axes, keep them away from the holy "strategic" combat axes

[devout axle]

138/143 out here with the "BUY A DAMN TAC AXE, I HAVE LIKE FIFTY OF THESE THINGS"

[untold surge]

Cos they are trash

[lethal plover]

[paper trail]

Sustained fire does work on LMB exactly as it says it does

[lethal plover]

Trauma bois we eating good

[bleak sonnet]

acknowledged: will be addressed early 2024

enjoy the new cash shop!

[tight saddle]

I had to sign for some packages mid mission and died lmao

[ornate hamlet]

happens to the best of us

[lethal plover]

Hear me out

A vote to pause button

[cyan notch]

next up change the aiming

[grave bobcat]

The aiming?

Whats up with it

[cyan notch]

i dont wanna aim at the sky just to explode the air

[grave bobcat]

You mean recoil? lol

[bright mica]

oh my god if it actually does 1k damage after a bug-fix

i have a god-rollled trauma

🤤

[cyan notch]

no im talking about trauma

[grave bobcat]

Damn hotboxed by 3 bulwarks

Stupid shiny button and my lust to press it

[tight saddle]

lmao I couldn't fit out of the door lmfao

[proud mantle]

imagine if you will

a simpler system, where your character blocks if afk

[grave bobcat]

Ogryns were only an issue cause I died

reeee

[proud mantle]

it was implemented in an ancient game called vermintide 2

[bright mica]

i will prosper under trauma staff meta

[cyan notch]

u mean block when typing

[proud mantle]

if only we could understand the ancient scriptures of vermintide

[fleet osprey]

now i need to collect striptures

[proud mantle]

id rather they make mod support more than anything else cause i know most features will be fixed faster through mods

[ornate hamlet]

There won't be mod support

Ever

[cyan notch]

how do u know are you from the future

[paper wren]

No, but they're a psyker so thats just as good

[cyan notch]

not convinced i dont believe it

[bleak sonnet]

its dedicated servers so modding wont be supported unless u can somehow host servers

[tight saddle]

And they won't allow hosted servers now that Fatshart is popular and can make money.

[tranquil badge]

Is there a consensus on what is the best mk for the axe?

[bleak sonnet]

5

[tranquil badge]

Well shoot i have a pretty decent 7

[acoustic spade]

deflector cant block sniper shots :<

[obsidian lichen]

Nor should it.

[obsidian lichen]

Antax Mk V Combat Axe.

[tranquil badge]

And is that cause of the attack pattern or the push attack?

[bleak sonnet]

both

[obsidian lichen]

Push.

[grave bobcat]

Got 25% dmg vs unyielding on surge which is pretty damn noice

[acoustic spade]

it should

[obsidian lichen]

Heavy is good for single-target, but the push is the thing that just sweeps hordes.

[acoustic spade]

ogryns shield can block it

[bleak sonnet]

ogryn shield is an entire weapon, not a blessing

[molten kindle]

what curios are y'all running?

[cyan notch]

hard carried by push attack the normal strings are normal

[grave bobcat]

toughness + gunner dmg resist

[obsidian lichen]

Find Toughness with Ranged damage reduction curios.

[tranquil badge]

Toughness over max hp?

[bleak sonnet]

ye

[tranquil badge]

Solid thank you guys

[obsidian lichen]

Is Toughness damage reduction in the game?

[grave bobcat]

@tight saddle lmao I don't have a good feeling about this one

No idea

Ive been wondering the same

I've not seen it

[tight saddle]

I got void this time so we'll see

[grave bobcat]

Tbh just my fault last run

[molten kindle]

aight ill keep an eye out, havent seen too many good ones besides stamina lol

[tight saddle]

nah we all fucked up for staying in that room too long

[grave bobcat]

I'm ogre killer so me dying fucked it

I pressed a shiny button and the door revealed atl least 30 gunners aiming at me

lol

[weary palm]

there something like that? i've only seen gunner reduction

[left basin]

strong migraine on psyker when damage

[obsidian lichen]

You get more than one perk per Curio, but I don't think you can stack the same perks on Curios.

[smoky linden]

rashuns

[fluid vessel]

Jesus CHRIST I tried to do the force push menance on the ammo map (the original one)

I've never seen an ending area clipped this aggressively

Why Fatshark ? I pushed everything but it got caught on invisible walls

That + the 3 ragers and instant special spawns, guess I'll have to intentionally force it on the Vigil hack mission or the bridge map

[mental pecan]

cliffhanger is easy to do. just tell your team to come to a ledge where you are with your back to a wall. everyone just needs to hold block for a few sec and you push them than

[night marten]

now if only I could find a purge equivalent

[lethal plover]

another damnation run where I'm the guy clutching with peril axe at the end

back hurts from all this carrying

[old sapphire]

whats a peril axe?

[sonic aspen]

he was so full of peril he made an axe out of it

[lethal plover]

@bleak sonnet when are you gonna be finished with that guide

[sonic aspen]

iirc it's using the perk to block using peril instead of stam and using an axe and doing the push stab thing over and over

peril axe

[sterile lake]

tasty
still looking for a voidstrike with stats like these

[sonic aspen]

Oh don't forget to have the auto quell toughness for peril axe

the level 5 perk

and congrats you are now peril axing

[tight saddle]

@grave bobcat lmao

you called it at the start too

[grave bobcat]

Yeah

They just couldn't kill anything

[tight saddle]

They were never in a good position either

we had to do so much to keep them safe

[grave bobcat]

I took a clip mid game

just wann watch it back cause like

Pretty sure we were the only dmg

[tight saddle]

I picked them up so many times haha

[grave bobcat]

I'm glad I got my 25%+ dmg to rampagers atleast

lmfao

Felt like I was on fucking mission impossible when the last sniper showed up too

[tight saddle]

it was a good comp that shouldn't have struggled, they just kept making poor decisions.

[grave bobcat]

idk

Zealot wasn't capable of taking care of themselves 😦

[glass osprey]

does warp battery still have to be done on heresy?

[grave bobcat]

So they could never frontline

[tight saddle]

and it mostly camped the gun and shot trash instead of specials

[grave bobcat]

See this is why gun psykers exist

lmfao

[patent hatch]

yes. BUT it is easy AF, if you just run Kinetic Flayer and psychich communium you are pretty much gonna get it without trying

[tight spoke]

guys, quick question: what are the perks of doing higher difficulty missions (4-5)?
(apart from more reward money and challenge)

do you find more resources or something?

[primal aurora]

bragging rights

[grave bobcat]

Checkign shot

then rdy

shop

[tight saddle]

fun is its own reward

[tight spoke]

I agree

[lethal plover]

actually playing the game
fun
Incredible concepts

[tight spoke]

so no real in-game benefits/changes?

[grave bobcat]

They're way more fun

tbh

[patent hatch]

In lower levels theres is a lot of Plasteel in higher there is more adamatinum

[minor elk]

At what level do you unlock the black hood?

[patent hatch]

30

[lethal plover]

many resources but those are incidental

[idle bay]

Quick question: Have anyone tried to slap Demonhost with a Scripture?

[minor elk]

Oh, any penances required?

[tight saddle]

all of them for the black hood and goggles

[grave bobcat]

Adamantium yoo

new mat drops

[patent hatch]

nah just appers in the store for about 110k at the minium but

the black one with goggles tho is all penances

[grave bobcat]

Yeah watching it back. in the last 4 mins of the game they didn't showed up 1 time each killing a special 🥲 @tight saddle

Moment we left the comfort of the choke

they insta died

[minor elk]

Wait, goggles?

Can you show an image?

[tight saddle]

in a game right now but someone here should have it

[minor elk]

And is there any other hoods like a brown/white one?

[patent hatch]

only red and red/green

[pine iris]

which lasgun or perk has the laser fire coming out at angles?

[lethal plover]

nani?

you mean collateral?

[minor elk]

Not even in the store, huh? Ooof..

[lethal plover]

some recon lasguns have collateral stats

[grave bobcat]

IM BRINGING A GUn

lmao

[patent hatch]

only hoods in the store are the black ones all the rest are the 3 levels of penances

[grave bobcat]

And tbf what happened in the back? lol

[tight saddle]

Weekend video games are a pain

[spare niche]

I took an autogun into a lights out. Worst decision I’ve ever made as a psyker

[unkempt barn]

Full auto lasgun brain burst on hit build is insane.

[spare niche]

[tight saddle]

I kept saving them from disablers

and they would run off again

alone

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

[tight saddle]

then 4 dogs and 2 trappers came out

[grave bobcat]

Best part is I didn't even have the dogs audi

until I was spectating

Restarting my games to fix it

[tight saddle]

weekends always bring out the people who don't have the time to play and learn the game, it's not their fault life doesn't let them play, but still

[grave bobcat]

Weekdays ain't better!

[lethal plover]

not a problem for damnation I feel
heresy is the great noob filter

[spare niche]

I have a clip of us together and a vet running off and getting downed. Then the ogryn went to help and then got downed. Was a great time

[grave bobcat]

Swap to Damnation then lets see lol

[lethal plover]

anyone going to damnation already half knows what they are doing

[grave bobcat]

Just not true at all lmfao

[tight saddle]

maybe the queue times are better now, but earlier I was waiting with bots for 20-30 minutes before people joined Damnation

[spare niche]

Mate if u do pug damnations lol

Good luck

[grave bobcat]

Throw back to the Ogryn twho fell of the edge in tthe first 3 minutes of the run 🥲

[lethal plover]

I do only pub damnation these days

[grave bobcat]

They're not ALL bad

[tight saddle]

solo quickplay Damnation is usually fine for me on the weekdays

[patent hatch]

20s for my damnation queuses lol

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/sensing-fuckery-wtf-fuckery-serious-gif-12629269

[lethal plover]

clear damnation easily unless no one brings a lasgun

[tight saddle]

this was way early in the morning so my Damnation games weren't filling

[patent hatch]

fair

[grave bobcat]

Loading times zzz

[minor elk]

Oof, interesting.

[weary palm]

look i know it's only 53% on damage but charge rate and blast radius got me hot and bothered

[tight saddle]

the last one took me 20mins before 1 person joined and then we talked for 10minutes before the other 2 spots filled. Then a lvl 21 Ogryn joined and pulled the Demonhost in the middle of a blackout Horde with tons of specials.

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

What a chad

[lethal plover]

if I wait for 2 minutes and no one joins I just restart new game

better luck of getting into an ongoing session that way

though I did once try to solo damnation and it filled to 4 after 10 minutes so who knows

[tight saddle]

Like I said it was just early NA hours so not many people were on probably

[grave bobcat]

Was like 2pm for me at the time and I got taht solo lobby as well 🥲

[tight saddle]

The run before that one was buttery smooth though, had good gamers

[lethal plover]

yeah
when people are all max leveled, it's just down to skill

the difference between an ogryn who keeps getting trapped and an ogryn who lives forever is ginormous

[tight saddle]

@grave bobcat are you sure you want to try Damnation with your EU ping to NA?

[modest solstice]

is the trauma staff actually worth using?

[grave bobcat]

I shall regret it afterwards 🙂

brb sec

pee

[tight saddle]

kk

[lethal plover]

yes

[pine iris]

I've seen it used well. It's great for teams in tight coherency. Good for lights out maps

[tight saddle]

it can do fine if everyone is able to play around it, I've used it in Damnation, but if your team doesn't know to play around it you can have a rough time

[lethal plover]

spam at feet for 360 team clear + controls dogs + 1shot bursters + knock down crushers

[tight saddle]

higher difficulties rely on the team knowing their loadouts strengths and using them to cover their allies weaknesses along with good positioning from everyone

[pine iris]

It's underwhelming for range in my hands

[modest solstice]

i always thought it was too much downside for what it offers, it costs so much peril for an AOE the size of a hot and ready little ceasars pizza

[lethal plover]

so a mix between void's horde clearing and surge's control (though of course they have different perks)

[spare niche]

ew trauma

[tight saddle]

different staffs have different strengths and weaknesses, surge is the most recommended one since its easier to use

[spare niche]

ewwwww

[pine iris]

With a weak looking mouse 1. It kind of fizzles lol

[glad nexus]

They were good quick shots. That last hound got yeeted lol

[modest solstice]

i think my favorite is the fire!

[grave bobcat]

Aight sorry went to get a drink to

And I games interp of latency isn't like

too fucky

But sometiems some random itneractions occur

[pine iris]

A great surge staff will have you playing above skill level

[grave bobcat]

I dunno what you saw because I saw you behind me, but wehn I first pushed out to fix the interrogator

I like, floated over the gap

lol

Then rubberbanded back

[modest solstice]

i also wish staffs had more unique basic attacks, the fire has the little fire throw.....why cant the void or Shock have something interesting

[lethal plover]

trauma pairs very well with purgatus since trauma can control the crushers and tough enemies

[vestal finch]

A great surge staff will have you playing in the most boring way possible, as a nerfed palpatine

[lethal plover]

that little fire ball is incredible
it has one of the highest suppression in the game. crucial on damnation where gunmen are the biggest threats

[grave bobcat]

I like Palpatine though

And tbh Antax looks most boring to be

[grave bobcat]

And feels

[tight saddle]

honestly we should just keep double surging to protect the bad randoms we've been getting in Heresy cal

[grave bobcat]

idk apparently Damnation randoms are pog

so 🤷

[vestal finch]

How do you peeps keep your warp charges up?

[lethal plover]

you don't care

[modest solstice]

i know, but like sieana from Vermintide, i kind of want the staffs to have uniqueness, maybe give the electric staff an electric ball, and the void a barrage Basic attack

[lethal plover]

psychic communion and flayer should be enough for everyone for auto-upkeep

[grave bobcat]

I don't care just let the passives do it

[lethal plover]

fire build can have 6 stacks with ascendant blaze

[tight saddle]

warp charges are irrelevant, but the passive warp charge feat will keep you maxed out when warp charges matter

[vestal finch]

It doesn't feel like it

4% is very low

[west galleon]

I used to get so pissed at people interrupting my cast before i unlocked those passives

Nooo my stacks

[tight saddle]

at lower difficulties there aren't enough enemies

[modest solstice]

yeah, i kind of wish warp charges were on Warp kills, not just brainburst

[vestal finch]

Wasn't it 6% before?

[grave bobcat]

Tbh

Already way better

[lethal plover]

large enough during a horde
biggest battles are where you need warp charges, not boring encounters

[swift musk]

Does anyone know if the block efficiency stat works on peril amount gained when using kinetic deflection? Wondering if its a good stat with force sword or only works on stamina blocked attacks

[lethal plover]

I got that stupid penance for warp upkeep for some minutes without trying

just trauma with communion and flayer

[vestal finch]

I heard warp battery lets you kill better-er with brain burst

[modest solstice]

i got the warp change penance by joining another pskyer and having it glitch out and somehow getting it when they did

[lethal plover]

the damage buffs are mostly useless

[modest solstice]

can someone give me the best character trait choices for a fire staff level 30

[lethal plover]

ascendant blaze 6 stacks with psychic communion

of course peril axe is the best but you should already know that
some prefer peril FS

[sterile lake]

cannot wait for more staves to drop 😏

[sinful stream]

At the very least, charged warp sword kills

[supple skiff]

^

warp kills you'd only ever run out on elevators

[sinful stream]

I just wish they would count down from 4 instead of all go away ay once. Would make the game way more fun for me but I suppose I'm focused too much on the stacks. Also I don't want to just use the op axe build..

[supple skiff]

honestly I only see a benefit if you run warp battery and the feat that gives warp resist per charge

Im pretty sure others in this chat have done testing and the damage difference doesn't breach any breakpoints as far as BB is concerned

[unborn isle]

I wonder if suicide bombing is any good for finishing off bosses

[dusky kettle]

It doesnt seem to do very much damage unfortunately from what Ive tested.

[unborn isle]

as a theoretical funny tactic

[unborn isle]

damn

[dusky kettle]

Which is surprising for such a high cost tactic...

[unborn isle]

Its pretty good on the horde though

Ive cleared like half of the horde a couple times by accident

[lethal plover]

warp charges are mainly for toughness regen, peril resistance, and ascendant blaze

peril resistance for me is the most important

[swift musk]

Would you happen to know if block efficiency works with peril blocking and not just stamina?

[unborn isle]

you mean the lvl 10 talent?

[lethal plover]

ye

[patent hatch]

^^^ it is nutty af

[unborn isle]

is it viable to take damage on level 10 though

[lethal plover]

peril is your lifeline

with peril block

[patent hatch]

depends on staff

[unborn isle]

What about void balls staff and the lightning one?

Ive only started playing psyker recently

still not sure about the build

[mild tartan]

Alright its time

Gonna look for a group to do the bang achievement

[supple skiff]

void staff slaps for horde clear and ranged supression, falls off a bit after tier 4 difficulty

[sterile lake]

those darn carapaces

[unborn isle]

so Im guessing palpatine staff is like the most OP for supporting

[gray kelp]

anyone know if there's a "best" diff for farming plasteel

the bottleneck is real

[supple skiff]

passes through their body but not their armor....

[sterile lake]

yeah i love the voidstrike, but it failed me many times on heresy

[mild tartan]

If you wanna help join Team 41

[bright mica]

voidstrike is still decent even at damnation, but its a bit like elf javelin from VT2

dominates legend, is balanced on cata

its a malice lobby stomper

[sterile lake]

i have not yet found one that is strong enough for heresy, but yes it clears everything on malice usually

[weary palm]

ayo what the fuc

[burnt python]

i use void in damn w/o issue you just gotta recognize it aint for elites at all any more

[fleet osprey]

can the shop sell me a force sword

[bright mica]

Im surprised cause the breakpoints barely change for heresy in my experience. it still melts hordes at 1/4 charge and pops guardsmen at 1/2 charge

of course elites it does fuckall against

[sterile lake]

that's what i meant
how do you get elites then? premades with a skilled zealot?

[burnt python]

melee

[supple skiff]

yeah that one is the prefered CC on higher difficulties, locks down ragers and crushers reallly well.

[burnt python]

or bb for squishy backline specials/elites

[bright mica]

you have the single best horde-clear in the game with voidstrike, use your force sword or let your vet/ogryn/zealot deal with it lol

[burnt python]

if theres like a rager in a mixed horde i'll blast them w/ void til close

[sterile lake]

yeah mine needed at least a 1/3 charge or a clean headshot on LMB

[spare niche]

off topic

COME ON ENGLANDDD

anyway resume

[bright mica]

its rlly easy to headshot with void tho

im pretty sure if any part of its AOE clips a head hitbox it counts as a headshot

[sterile lake]

yeah because it blasts like a mofo 😄

[burnt python]

nah void headshot boxes are wonky as fuck dont rely on it lol

[bright mica]

its hard not to headshot lol

[paper trail]

in meatgrinder it feels really hard to weakspot maulers and crushers

like really hard

[burnt python]

they are janky

[bright mica]

im talking abt horde-clear headshots with void

[sterile lake]

true, i use force sword though
i am still searching for a decent voidstrike ;_;

[bright mica]

i dont even bother voiding maulers let alone crushers

[burnt python]

ya you still cant rely on a hs registering to hit breakpoints

[bright mica]

just slap em with fsword

[paper trail]

when someone whips a flamer out or the ogryn charges though

voidstrikes clear time feels like doubles

[echo parrot]

Dear Omnisiah, please stop hogging the knives each reset.

Sincerely, Anabel.

[bright mica]

voidstrike is good on pubs because you have good anti-guardsman with your 30 dollar plasma gun

but on premades or good pubs

purgatus and surge kinda overtake it imho

i love void the most

[burnt python]

i want to liek purge but i dont think its good at all

[bright mica]

i cant wait for trauma buff

[burnt python]

soulflame needs love

[bright mica]

its OK horde-clear with 70% of the stun of surge

perfectly usable honestly

[burnt python]

void does the same thing better

[primal aurora]

I played a mission with Void + Surge + Purge Psykers + Veteran. It was interesting experience.

[bright mica]

nah

[burnt python]

and is more fun imo

[bright mica]

void does not do stun better at all lmao

can you even push dogs off of people with void

[bright cipher]

Void staggers

Purg staggers

Surge stuns

Trauma knocks over

[supple skiff]

pretty sure

[sterile lake]

thats the nice stuff yes
plus the core of it can get past cover and the rest of hit still hits everything there

[bright mica]

oh damn ok

purge is still more braindead for the stagger when you can spam M1

i think all three staffs are good

if you ignore trauma lmao

pleasebufftraumafatsharkholyshit

[bright cipher]

Surge>purge>void>trauma

Imo

For damnation ofc

[bright mica]

agreed

surge is definitely good, maybe a tad overrated (absolutely hate surge mains saying its the only good staff oh my god please use anything else for once lol)

main reason i dont use it is because its easily the most boring staff

[bright cipher]

The thing is surge does something no other staff does

[bright mica]

i dont like being a support slut

let me murderize shit

[supple skiff]

would be nice if the lmb was lightning related

[bright cipher]

Which is reliability permastun entire groups of specials and elites

[hot tulip]

it does not

[bright mica]

yea it can do what purgatus can but braindead

[bright cipher]

Which on damnation saves you time, hp and makes positioning better

[bright mica]

purgatus can perma stun a group if you have massive balls

[bright cipher]

Purgatus doesn't stun

It staggers

Very important difference

[bright mica]

makes very little difference against most things

but ik wym

[hot tulip]

block efficiency is only tied to the weapon you are blocking with

Kinetic Deflection goes straight into our purge meter, so it doesnt apply

[bright cipher]

It does against elites and specials that can often ignore stagger effects

[bright mica]

yup

[bright cipher]

Most noticeable when trying to push them

[bright mica]

bulwarks, crushers, and mutants

[weary palm]

so, 6 stacks or BB chance on hit?

[vestal finch]

I found that I could peril block more efficiently if I had a weapon that gave me more stamina

[bright mica]

BB chance on hit literally every time

[bright cipher]

And let's be honest hordes isn't what gets you killed on damnation cuz everyone on the team has horde clear

Horde is just added pressure on top of large groups of elites

[bright mica]

in defense of purgatus

[vestal finch]

No shit...

[bright mica]

it relieves a lot of pressure

[grave bobcat]

Version error every time

[bright cipher]

But so does a zealot with a flamer

[grave bobcat]

lol

[bright mica]

yawn flamer lamer

purgatus pog status

[grave bobcat]

You can just tell in like the first

[tight saddle]

blue fire > regular fire

[hot tulip]

iinnnteerresting

I'm still trying to find out if certain properties such as warp resist work with peril blocking

Then again, so many bugs still in this game so idk

[bright cipher]

Even with max roll cloud radius flamer outranges it

[bright mica]

my problem with surge is elites mixed with horde can often result in the elite being skipped for 7 random pox walkers

[weary palm]

zealot w/o bolter feels wrong

[hot tulip]

surge staff blowing up on 80+ cast was a bug lmao

[grave bobcat]

30 seconds if the run is going to be possible 🥲

[bright mica]

dont get me wrong

surge is prob the best

purgatus is so much more fun to me

i hate being a little nerd spamming charges

boo

boring!!!!!

👎

[hot tulip]

I want Hadron to step on me

[bright mica]

I want to cut her open with a tactical axe

[weary palm]

i was a fireball gamer so voidstrike is my hopium

[bright mica]

shes mean to me :(

[hot tulip]

thats the appeal

[bright mica]

i miss old fireball

fireball QQ tech...

🤤

[weary palm]

fr

[bright cipher]

It's legit hilarious how void goes from hand of God on malice and below to shooting wet farts on damnation

[weary palm]

M1 feels so fucking SHIT on these staves

[bright mica]

psst

[weary palm]

nice

i meant the aiming tho

[bright mica]

you didnt see shit

:3

[vestal finch]

I see you, gunner

[grave bobcat]

@tight saddle Since they didn't wanna do another imma just eat then I'll be doin more if you're still on 🙂

[tight saddle]

wat

[proven wave]

Feel like the lightning staff is kinda the way to go no matter the difficulty tho right? The fact it can stun mutants and even hounds is pretty clutch

[vestal finch]

What can it do besides stun?

[tight saddle]

sounds good, we got the different version error when trying to merge strike teams

[bright mica]

kill shooters, if you roll a crit

[grave bobcat]

Yee, they were on the gamepass I guess

[proven wave]

Does solid damage and can do it to a big crowd too

[weary palm]

isn't surge actually solid on armor damage?

[vestal finch]

I tried surge a few times, awfully dull weapon

[bright cipher]

Void on damnation does negligible damage and provides piss poor cc compared to surge and purgatus

[bright mica]

no it fucking cant lmao

[vestal finch]

Ended up exploding a bunch

[bright mica]

surge has no horde control

[grave bobcat]

Seems we're arguing again in here

[vestal finch]

Notice how no one talks about Trauma staff

[bright mica]

bcs its literally bugged right now

does half of its intended damage dawg 😭

[proven wave]

https://tenor.com/view/caveira-skeleton-ive-been-waiting-gif-13523984

[tight saddle]

god psyker doomers are so annoying

[weary palm]

👀 ?

[vestal finch]

???????

[grave bobcat]

lmao doomers

[proven wave]

It’s not very good compared to the others unfortunately

[tight saddle]

every staff can easily be used in Damnation just fine, it just requires the whole team to play around each others loadouts

[bright mica]

was reported as a bug and it kinda makes sense

trauma does way lower damage than its displayed damage

[vestal finch]

Did the devs confirm it was a bug?

[bright mica]

no but i can see it

it'd explain why trauma sucks

[vestal finch]

Maybe it takes armor into account...

[bright mica]

i rlly hope its a bug

[lethal plover]

they did

[bright mica]

otherwise trauma sad :(

[primal aurora]

Cyberpunk was pretty vague on Trauma staff. They were shown as callous and cold mercenaries.

[bright cipher]

"void is good on damnation you just need a team that tip toes around you like you're a make a wish kid in a wheelchair"

[weary palm]

trauma is confirmed lower dmg

[bright mica]

POGGERS

[vestal finch]

You are not funny.

[bright mica]

im not a doomer for saying surge sucks at horde-clear, killing 7 pox walkers every 2.5 seconds is not good horde-clear lmao

[weary palm]

need me a high charge and radius trauma

[lethal plover]

it deals like 2/3 of the damage it should do

[grave bobcat]

Why're you using your surge on pxo walkers?

[tight saddle]

literally just did a Damnation with a shitty voidstaff and was easily handling enemies even when caught solo with it with multiple elites on me

[hot tulip]

i never pug with trauma staff and my life has been infinitely better since

never pug damnnation assuming everyone will always play around you lol

[bright mica]

cause someone said its good at horde control 😭

[hot tulip]

surge is just too versatile to pass up

[grave bobcat]

lmfao

Nah

[bright mica]

i said "no it isnt" and got called a doomer

💀

[lethal plover]

I pub with damnation only with trauma these days and clear them easily

[weary palm]

you're LATERALLY griefing without a kantrael XII 🙄

[bright mica]

I love trauma but its so much better in a premade

[grave bobcat]

It's horde clear/control is if anything non-existant

[hot tulip]

trauma is waaay better in a premade ya

if you pug with it, it's just really hard to carry

[bright mica]

XII is good but its like the surge of veteran mains. there are other good options lol

[weary palm]

anyways just give us back beam thanks!

[hot tulip]

but if you premade trauma on damnn, its a godsend

[vestal finch]

Have you considered you might be... bad?

[primal aurora]

does it have some hidden +X% boost in premade teams?

[lethal plover]

ok don't get personal

[bright mica]

purgatus requires your team to actually stick together

[hot tulip]

no because 7/10 times on damnnation you QP into a lobby where trauma just doesnt fit ur comp

[bright mica]

my bad trauma

well purgatus too lmao

even on damn you get zealots running off and dying

you cant escape them

[grave bobcat]

There is definitely a lot of Trauma about this staff 😉

[vestal finch]

You could say it's a... traumatizing experience

[hot tulip]

not saying its bad you just have to adjust for the people in it

[primal aurora]

any bets on psyker changes on 14th?

[hot tulip]

r i p

[bright cipher]

7/10 times you pub damnation you get into a lobby of someone trying to cheese penances solo lol

[bright mica]

bet every class will get tweaks

[bleak sonnet]

@lethal plover idk

[hot tulip]

yeah exactly wtf and then you are carrying ur poor trauma staff

[lethal plover]

ideal combination is horde clear + gunmen killer + armor killer + control + clutch

[vestal finch]

Bet Cadia's still gonna be destroyed

[hot tulip]

lel

[gray kelp]

post made on wednesday covered what's coming and IIRC no mention of psyker stuff

[bright mica]

i hope they remake it just so it can be blown up again

[bright cipher]

Now which of these things can psyker do better than other classes?

[bright mica]

i hate cadia so much i would blow it up myself with a big voidstrike staff

[vestal finch]

You are the assistant

You help everyone

(And get abused)

[lethal plover]

we do them all

[bright mica]

control and horde-clear

[tight saddle]

blaming a staff on failed damnation runs is a skill issue at this point

[hot tulip]

im really hoping psyker gets a ton of killing power in the next update

or at least adjustments to BB

[bright mica]

purgatus is on par with flamer (lower dps/range, but infinite ammo and uptime) and both horde-clear the fuck out of damnation

control with surge/purgatus/void

best with surge ofc

[vestal finch]

In regards to the upcoming patch, I'm sensing rage, fear and foreshortened lifespans

[bright mica]

armor damage we're cucked

😭

shooter/gunner killing we're cucked

[lethal plover]

seriously, I tried going back to vet and I feel like a slime in melee. it's a glaring weakness.

[tight saddle]

doomer psykers aren't ever going to be happy unless every staff kills everything in a cast or two and BB deletes a whole room

[bright mica]

clutch we're also cucked

[hot tulip]

lowkey, I feel like the first talent tree we got at trust 5

should be a pickable feat to use surge, purge, or void lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Should I build toughness or health on psyker. Im usually at range from enemies and if they come close, I got that vermintide 2 dodging skills. The only thing I have issue is with gunners of course and I think building tougness is a good idea. Do you agree with me or not?

[grave bobcat]

Doomer psyker sounds like a good staff name

[hot tulip]

no we just want a more decent class and decent perks to run in damn lol

[bright mica]

psyker is on par with other classes it just needs a trauma buff and it needs buffs towards gunsyker playstyle

[hot tulip]

damnation*

[vestal finch]

You should try stacking Gunner Damage Resist curios

[gray kelp]

force sword is one of better clutch weapons from personal experience, the dodge itself isn't amazing but you have infinite which really helps

[lethal plover]

except you don't even dodge as a psyker in melee

[gray kelp]

aside from the obvious kinetic deflection + deflector

[ornate hamlet]

I do

[hot tulip]

you know if there was a subclass that combined gunplay and psykinetic abilties, that would be fire af, but I dont see them giving psykinetic any changes to our talent tree for that- they'd have to basically overhaul everything

[steel veldt]

y’all i’m so confused by this penance, can someone please tell me what an “Elite” is im getting so many different answers, also i genuinely find the fact i need to intentionally kill myself so u believably stupid

[vestal finch]

I think I saw only 1 of these mystical lightsabers

And it was very early on

[hot tulip]

if anything, I think they'd release a new subclass altogether

for using guns and psychic abilties

I mean after all, our class is literally called Psyker-Psykinetic

[vestal finch]

Psyker subclass confirmed to release first?

[tight saddle]

my force sword sucks ass but I've only ever gotten that single 1 with deflector and I hate this feeling lmfao

[grave bobcat]

Noice

[bright mica]

yeah but compared to zealot being immortal for a few seconds + grenades for stun, ogryns inability to be interrupted, massive health pool and a massive disruption ability, and veterans power sword + grenade stun for revives pskyers are the lowest on the list, our only reliable safe revive strat is using peril block talent and wasting our entire power for horde-stagger (even though its kinda bad at this lol)

[hot tulip]

im no dev im just a quirky doomsayer

idk

[lethal plover]

with peril block and axe, you can sleep through a horde even with ragers charging at you
the only time you need to dodge is to kill specials. in fact, that's your main focus during a horde

[vestal finch]

It is confirmed.

[gray kelp]

antax mk5 is also a very good option, non-force sword melees passively quell much faster than force sword which basically translates to being able to block melee better than a force sword

[bright mica]

by clutch i mean "oh shit everyone is dead, go revive"

[bright cipher]

2/3 solid curio

[steel veldt]

what counts as an elite for the going out with a bang penance

[grave bobcat]

think I've seen that same clip like 6 times lol

[bright mica]

if you're the last man standing then pskyer* crumples pretty fast too 😭

[steel veldt]

is that just the guys who show up in the feed

[vestal finch]

Maybe I should become a metacuck and find a good axe...

[ornate hamlet]

Damn

[tight saddle]

mkv axe gets boring quick, just a warning

[bright mica]

axe isnt metacuck at all 😭

its rlly hard to recommend anything other than force sword even if you ignore deflector blessing

[gray kelp]

specifically in the case of revives I think psyker is the best, outclassing ogryn. You can get away with ressing people in the middle of big hordes

ogryn doesnt get staggered but still takes damage and stuff chews through stam faster than peril

[bright mica]

disagree because most of the time you will get body blocked by the horde and your melee horde-clear isn't good enough with fsword

[gray kelp]

(this is also coming from an ogryn enjoyer just to be clear)

[bright mica]

like yeah, once you do get on top of them

[grave bobcat]

I wish you could like

[bright mica]

perfect, you can revive

[grave bobcat]

Simulate a horde in grinder

[bright mica]

but so can everyone else

[tight saddle]

I don't think deflector force sword is all that great as people make it seem like, it's just a fun playstyle that performs well enough

[bright mica]

yeah its like

[vestal finch]

You press F pushing everyone off your teammate, rush in and find yourself taking no damage because psyker is the best melee tank in the game

[hot tulip]

its funny how psyker shoots up to S tier melee tank with just one ability

and knowing Fatshark, they are gonna nerf it

[gray kelp]

deflector enables you to clutch while being LMS a lot better as you're kinda fucked against hitscan ranged units by yourself otherwise

[bright cipher]

FS with deflector is nice but an axe with infinite block push and basically infinite stamina?

That fucks

[bright mica]

easier said than done in a vacuum

[tight saddle]

The only reason I use force sword is for the special attack even though you only use it in specific situations

[bright cipher]

In fact it's so good you don't even need a staff

[bright mica]

psyker is better than vet for clutch revives

[bright cipher]

Just an axe and peril block

[weary palm]

deflector

[vestal finch]

I have clutched multiple times because of it

[steel veldt]

is it the peril block one?

[tight saddle]

I just love the special attack on fs thematically

[bright mica]

Its obviously possible and I do it all the time

[hot tulip]

yeah, nothing else

Kinetic Deflection is absolute top tier talent rn, if not one of the best

[vestal finch]

Hell, I even revived someone WHILE I was being attacked by a daemonhost

[bright mica]

but when I am last man standing as Ogryn I'm just like "oh? this shit again? ugh" *presses F and wins

[scarlet geyser]

guys, what are good curios for psyker?

[bright mica]

psyker curios are a goofy discussion and i would like to know others opinion too

[bright cipher]

The same shit that's good for everyone

[hot tulip]

wound x3 so you can complete the out with a bang and be able to suicide more often lol

[bright mica]

that is?? 😭

based

[azure cave]

I run toughness and 1 wound

[hot tulip]

honestly yall

wound x3 is funny

[azure cave]

I'm new to lvl 30 though

[vestal finch]

I run 0 wounds

[bright cipher]

Toughness, gunner res, 1 wounds toughness dmg block

Maybe sniper res

[bright mica]

probably optimal for psyker

[steel veldt]

could anyone tell me wtf is an “Elite” for the self destruct penance i get different answers everywhere some say it’s the guys with armor some say it’s the ones in the kill feed i genuinely don’t know

[tight saddle]

something like this

[bright mica]

wow.. goated

[vestal finch]

it's the ones in the kill feed

[bright mica]

idk

[steel veldt]

wow that’s gonna suck so bad

[vestal finch]

And the ones you can tag

[bright mica]

will 130 toughness even help you over 100 toughness on heresy/damnation

[weary palm]

friend did it on shotgunners and i did it on maulers

[steel veldt]

what a dumb challenge

[hot tulip]

yes

[bright mica]

you will still get 1 burst by shooters

[lethal plover]

tank daemonhost with just the axe

[gray kelp]

i really wish sustained fire blessing just didnt exist for staves my voidstrikes keep getting ruined by shitty blessings

[bright mica]

idk

[hot tulip]

remember your trust 5 talents though

[bright cipher]

Axechad

[hot tulip]

and if you purge/surge/void

youll get ur toughness back

[bright mica]

i mean yea

i just like more heath becus .. . coruptiom

:3

[hot tulip]

sure, it helps

just dont get hit lmao

[vestal finch]

The sad thing is, I can very easily see them nerfing this instead of buffing the ogryn to be a better tank

[bright mica]

and 100 or 130 toughness it pops anyway so dont get hit ez clap 💪

deflector goes brrr

[azure cave]

Slab shield's got nothing on kinetic deflection

[tight saddle]

honestly I don't really feel a difference between stacking toughness or health on Damnation when I flip between them

[hot tulip]

i find this funny af

like literally, its true

[bright mica]

i like toughness on vet tho bcs he regens toughness % per second and combined with ranged resistance he can literally face tank gunners its funny

[vestal finch]

I cheesed the daemonhost on the first day they came out with Kinetic Deflection

[bright mica]

slab shield is overrated, bully club is possibly the best melee in the game

[steel veldt]

does perils of the warp scale up with power bc in the practice range i’m barely getting enough damage to kill specialists and the radius is complete dogshit

[azure cave]

Does combat axe give good dodge distance?

[bright mica]

tactical axes have good dodge

combat axes not so much

[azure cave]

Bully club better than combat sword?

power sword*

[weary palm]

club had p shit cleave didnt it

cleaver enthusiast

[bright mica]

club has 3x the range of combat sword and with the right blessings comparable or better horde-clear, it has extremely high single target DPS with heavy -> block cancel, good dodge range, massive stamina, special attack can stagger stun groups of ragers

dont tell fatshark ok..

[hot tulip]

its getting hit when the powermaul comes out

because thats powermauls identity right there lel

[bright mica]

im gonna be so sad if power maul drops and its lower DPS than club

[azure cave]

Your secret is safe with me brute

[bright mica]

club can 4 shot crushers on damn with the right blessings btw

😭

[lethal plover]

better than power sword but ironically you don't even dodge that much

[bright mica]

and with ogryns bleed you can bonk a bulwarks shield a few times and they will die from bleed :)

[tight saddle]

I want the special attack on the 2handed Force Sword to be a stab that does a damaging force cone attack

[weary palm]

i want a force sword that has horizontal lights

[lethal plover]

is this viable when a bunch of bulwarks are whaling on you?

[bright mica]

if force sword is just the eviscerator to force swords chain sword it might legit be the best melee

[lethal plover]

or would the wait be too long

[bright mica]

thats because you likely used the starter club. it has the finesse stat lol

80% finesse is about 20% faster attack speed

it has the highest dps of all ogryn weapons atm except ripper

highest carapace dps tho

eh maybe you just need to give it a few more tries

it anti-horde is light -> heavy btw

you can also spin around and 360 hit everything around you with the heavy

skullcrusher blessing lets you easily one shot all horde on damn

[tight niche]

I would love a preview for the prem shop, wouldn't have bought this helmet if I knew I was going to be bald

[weary palm]

this but zealot hood

[bright mica]

I wish the club had more drip

[tight niche]

like atleast let me have a buzz or something

[bright mica]

its a fucking doohickey

a piece of metal with shit stapled to it

[tight saddle]

lol rip 14% toughness

[weary palm]

any bull butcher enthusiasts?

[lethal plover]

Target receives 1-4 Stacks of 5% Damage on Stagger. Lasts 1-5 second.
Wat does this mean

[bright mica]

ngl i think bull butcher is overrated, i have a god rolled one and i dont understand the appeal

[lethal plover]

what's the perk for bleed on bully club?

[spare niche]

when they stagger they take that damage

so when they get stunned basically

[weary palm]

level 10 bottom

[bright mica]

haymaker glitch got fixed if thats what you're asking

but yeah lvl 10 bottom

haymaker let you instakill things with the bleed proc lol

[frail shuttle]

Me watching the Psyker chat talk about Ogryns

[bright mica]

overspill chat