psyker-class

[burnt python]

I don't even find them hard to maintain, they just don't do enough

[ebon inlet]

there def needs to be at least more warp charge syngergies

[weary palm]

there's probably some breakpoints you can hit easier with stacks

[burnt python]

the peril resist is.... ok, the damage is negligable

[paper trail]

does toughness regen even effect quietude if its just based of peril?

[scarlet lily]

They're harder to maintain than like, anything else with the class

[scarlet lily]

It sure feels like it

[ebon inlet]

like the only builds that do stuff with warp charges are purgatus staff bois

[burnt python]

theres like 2 breakpoints on damnation, doesnt come into play often

[scarlet lily]

For the effort to maintain stacks, I'd rather put the attention elsewhere

If I get 4 stacks? Woooo

[grave bobcat]

T5 attempt 3, bless thy randoms

[obsidian lichen]

The most important breakpoints on Damnation for warp charges is the difference between 3 or 4 BBs for ogryns.

[burnt python]

only relevant breakpoint here is gunners

[scarlet lily]

Sometimes I just start BBing while changing areas, but I rarely think about them

[uneven sparrow]

If you burst specials you will have stacks usually

Ye

[obsidian lichen]

Eh? Gunners are always 1-shot.

Even at 0 stacks.

[weary palm]

i bb a bunch using purgatus just because i have no range

[grave bobcat]

"Why has my Psyker been stood afk the last 20 seconds look at this Orgyn... hmmm"

[burnt python]

chart may be wrong, not my data, will have to test

[weary palm]

void too actually because m1 is really weird at range

[obsidian lichen]

I have tested BB thoroughly in Damnation psykanium.

[ebon inlet]

the only semi-decent feats that synergize with warp charges are the peril resist one and the toughness damage resist one

[scarlet lily]

I take peril resist even without warp charge feats

It's good for when staff spamming

[young summit]

Well fck that was 2000 wasted weekly tickets.

and 350 of the crafting materials

[weary palm]

x/y where x is stacks to oneshot or ?

[scarlet lily]

10%BB feat caps out warp charges most of the time in heresy+ hordes

[young summit]

run an gun absolutley sucks ;<

[ornate hamlet]

I went with classic rabbi clinton

[burnt python]

sry i cut off header:

[ornate hamlet]

he won the game awards after all

[uneven sparrow]

Bruh

[obsidian lichen]

Ogryns and Muties are 4. Maulers are 3. Ragers, Flamers and Hounds are 2.

With enough stacks Maulers are 2. Ogryns are 3, and Muties are 3.

[weary palm]

ah

[night marten]

you should not be consecrating sub 350 weps

[ebon inlet]

may you encounter Mosses in game, child of Abraham
may he deliver you to the Promised Land

[scarlet lily]

Use FS special for muties to one tap them 😏

[burnt python]

the rating number doesnt really matter at all if the dump stat is correct

[night marten]

or buying them with very limited weekly currency, even worse

[velvet trail]

especially a purgatus with cloud radius 18..

[uneven sparrow]

Reaper and bulwark doesn’t die to brain burst Cus they got no brains 😎

[night marten]

you're right, but it's a purge staff

most of the stats matter

[young summit]

i have a life, cant be windows shopping every hour 🤣

[ornate hamlet]

amen

[night marten]

surge would be a different story

[burnt python]

except quell 😛

[night marten]

no, even quell is good

[burnt python]

quell is always a good dump stat

[supple skiff]

hmm really only damnation hounds and flamers that stick out to me here

[night marten]

not on surge?

[burnt python]

quell stat hardly makes a difference

[night marten]

quell/warp resist are amazing on surge

[weary palm]

idc about warp res

[burnt python]

warp resist is way more important than quell

[young summit]

with how darn rare staffs are in the stores i take what i can.

[burnt python]

someone tested the other day and a 30% quell staff vs 80% was like 3.75s vs 4.2s to full quell

i prefer to just pull out my melee and passive quell anyways

[scarlet lily]

Quell is great on surge

Arguablly the best would be quell/warp resist

[long wharf]

you get almost that fast of quelling with passive quelling on non-force-sword

[weary palm]

i like quelling on FS cus infinite dodge count

[scarlet lily]

Same

[burnt python]

passive quelling w/ non-fs is nearly the same speed as active quelling w/ fs

except you get to do othe things

fs quell speed is fuckin jank

[scarlet lily]

I swap to my surge with higher quell if I need toughness NOW, but if not, dodge block FS lets the peril drip down, restore my toughness, and gimmie time

[weary palm]

so it wasn't my schizophrenia

[teal cargo]

Sounds kinda bad 💀

[night marten]

surge is super easy to roll for, because two stats are very important, two others are nice to have, and the last is meaningless

purge however can effectively use all 5 stats

[ornate hamlet]

bruh

[scarlet lily]

I like high charge time on surge full charged zaps feel good

[tropic halo]

you guys prefer stacking health curios or toughness curios?

[uneven sparrow]

I need ogryn and the others to know im quelling rn not for gameplay reasons just vanity

[scarlet lily]

Wounds

[weary palm]

i meditate irl while quelling

[scarlet lily]

||And stamina, but it's bugged rn so +2 per curios is the max||

[weary palm]

wrong i have a +3 on zealot

[scarlet lily]

Have you compared it to your +2?

[burnt python]

stamina useless on psyker w/ peril block

[scarlet lily]

They give the same stamina

[gentle rose]

I like toughness on psyker

[weary palm]

oh lol

[scarlet lily]

It's good because it prevents the stamina break that forces your shield down

[burnt python]

non-fs passive quell speed

[scarlet lily]

(And for when things get scary)

[uneven sparrow]

Ohmmm

[scarlet lily]

But wounds > toughness/HP considering how small the gains are for us and how hard things hit in 4/5 imo

[burnt python]

the problem is wounds only matter if you go down, hp/toughness can prevent you from going down

[tropic halo]

so more health overall but you're definitely planning to get the ground a few times and kinda accepting that sorta thing

[paper trail]

I take 1 wound and 2 hp curios

[burnt python]

same

[weary palm]

1hp 2 toughs

[scarlet lily]

Toughness if you get a max roll I think, but wounds allows you more down states, which are good if you want to wipe a horde

[obsidian lichen]

Toughness is better than HP for Psyker, you want to prevent toughness break from ranged units.

[weary palm]

?

[scarlet lily]

But also, 2 wound people in damnation stress the team out

[tropic halo]

ive been seeing more psykers with hp curios but earlier in the game people said to stack toughness

[scarlet lily]

Toughness regens so you get more EHP out of it

But extra HP can help with the corruption creep

[weary palm]

are you blowing yourself up every horde

[burnt python]

i havent tested myself but ppl who did the math said hp gave more EHP for psyker

[paper trail]

chip damage though will just keep happening

[burnt python]

also hp curios roll higher than toughness

[uneven sparrow]

2 wounds people youre scary

[scarlet lily]

No but I have unironically done it to save a group ||yes||

[static epoch]

I will use toughness until I get deflector

[paper trail]

overall hp gives much larger bigger number

[velvet trail]

HP of course gives more EHP if you dont account for toughness regen

but thats the whole point of toughness

[static epoch]

But if on Damnation, wound and HP feels better. Since the ranged units sap your toughness in a single shot even at high toughness.

[scarlet lily]

Behold the girth of all these wounds

[uneven sparrow]

Also tho with Psyker specifically it means you can explode on purpose

[scarlet lily]

It was on purpose guys, I promise

[uneven sparrow]

Not that theres any real reason to

[scarlet lily]

Yeah, once you get deflector, you can drop toughness/health because honestly.. You have ogryn shield

[vestal rose]

it's a fun sword, and that's what matters

[uneven sparrow]

True what I mean is it’s the freedom to explode without worrying others

Lol

[tropic halo]

alright color me convinced. i'll start keeping an eye out for health curios.

[burnt python]

theres still no better choice than hp even w/ deflector

[scarlet lily]

beautiful

[scarlet lily]

If you get high HP rolls yeah, but wounds I think wins out until you're getting +20%s

Apparently +2 wound curious 'existed'

[uneven sparrow]

There’s a reason there’s a nice portrait for rescuing people

[tropic halo]

yeah i could've sworn i seen 2 wound curios before

[scarlet lily]

Important note: Just because someone says X is best atm, or Y isn't as good as X does not mean you shouldn't buy any max rolled curious/weapons you see..

[static epoch]

yeah buy em all

anything high

[burnt python]

that things is nasty

[scarlet lily]

I dunno if 20% is max HP roll, but 20/20

[sterile sable]

hey lads, how important is charge speed?

[burnt python]

hp can roll up to 25

[tropic halo]

21 i think it is for max

OH 25??

[static epoch]

it's not I got 21% health. pretty sure

[burnt python]

25 say the data files

[scarlet lily]

Not too much on surge, but critical bonus is nice

[burnt python]

my highest is 21 so that may be the in game limit

[tropic halo]

anybody seen the fabled 25 health one yet? that's juicy.

[paper trail]

I havent seen blessings rated over 80 yet though and 80 is 21% hp

[scarlet lily]

25 sounds right, 21 would be silly as max

[paper trail]

whereas 80 is 17% toughness

[glad tulip]

Fellow 'sykers, have u been in a team bigger than 4? I was playing today in a team of 3 people and 3 bots initially then it was 4 people and 1 bot. Is that some kind of bug or something?

[burnt python]

it's probably similar to weapon stat bars - leaving some in the bank for reds eventually

[sterile lake]

i got a 20 one on my psyker today

[scarlet lily]

Is bug

Curio rating is all over the place tbh, you can get the same stat rolls and have the ratings differ wildly

[burnt python]

if only stam did something for psyker

[paper trail]

its consecrating that wrecks ratings I believe

[glad tulip]

After i joined the team i was flabbergasted with the guys and we stood still for like 5 minutes trying to figure out wtf is going on

[scarlet lily]

I think it could be like, the rating is the "pool" of currency to determine the perks/blessings, so a higher roll allows for better perks or blessings

[uneven sparrow]

Fatshark really doesn’t want people to get malleus monstrositum

[scarlet lily]

Like a budget for what the weapon or curio can obtain

[paper trail]

the blessings are directly proportionate to its blessing rating

the perks can roll higher or lower tiers though it seems

[tropic halo]

😭 combat special cooldown is so fucking useless, i got nearly ten percent and all it did was shave three seconds off of my special

these perks are garbage...

[glad tulip]

Couldn't care less for that shit-ass penance in random lobbies

[jovial frigate]

so you rng a perk and you rng a number for said perk. whenever that perks # hits x threshold, it goes up

[scarlet lily]

What I mean is, say you have a 100 rating curious, +20% uses 75 and the perk below uses 20, so you have 5 extra rating

[echo parrot]

Can you sprint longer?

[scarlet lily]

If it rolled blessings, and you got +20 to rating on upgrade, your blessing could be 'worth' 25 rating

[paper trail]

I actually really don't like that curios call their blessings blessings, since weapon blessings are completely different and modifier rating on weapons is like the blessing on curios. Its unneccesarily confusing

[jovial frigate]

i think curios cap out at 80 on their base roll though, so i think you can only get 21% health

[burnt python]

[jovial frigate]

because 75 points is the threshold for 20%

[echo parrot]

Like a legit question

[scarlet lily]

So you couldn't get a blessing that would cost 30 rating, but you could at 25

[echo parrot]

You know I like to go fast

[burnt python]

yes but its miniscule

[scarlet lily]

(I made the rating costs up, just hypothetical)

[uneven sparrow]

Its on purpose the bot is the achievement police

[sterile lake]

lot of times (||two||) I get two exact same curios with different price and different rating in the shop 😄

[burnt python]

(also + 3stam curios are bugged atm and only giving ~1.5)

[weary palm]

sprint efficiency BIS on ranged change my mind

[scarlet lily]

Sprint efficiency

[scarlet lily]

I got the same as a +2, so I figured it was all just +2

[jovial frigate]

75 is definitely the threshold, it seems that for instance, main max hp roll on curio increases 1% per 5 points

[burnt python]

it may be, dont know the exact number

[echo parrot]

So i need 3 curios with sprint efficiency and sprint efficiency on my knife, gotcha.

[glad tulip]

If you mean - does bot do any substantial damage to heresy level monstrosity - the answer is no

[scarlet lily]

Whaaa

Bots SMACK

[uneven sparrow]

Rip

[scarlet lily]

They also have insane movement techs

[burnt python]

bots smack at gettin smacked

[scarlet lily]

People can unironically learn from the bots movement

Just.. Don't jump off cliffs or ledges like they do

[uneven sparrow]

I’ll say this, they’re loyal to a fault

[scarlet lily]

Weird suicidal bots

[weary palm]

bots occassionally get possessed by core and biofrost for a few moments

[uneven sparrow]

The fault being ressing me without cleaning the crowd first

[glad tulip]

Oh yeah. Seen that one today. Bitch threw flame nade and bot just stood in it killing himself while looking at a flame bomber

[jovial frigate]

justsome hp threshold examples

[burnt python]

i miss kruber bot, just give me 3 of those

[scarlet lily]

[tropic halo]

the 'nothin personal, kid' build.

[echo parrot]

What I do it just because I want to feel the touch of another human being 🥲

[scarlet lily]

It's either insane movement techs, or hilariously silly stuff

[echo parrot]

[scarlet lily]

I have seen them jump, shove, dodge slide from a hoard

[tropic halo]

NANI

[glad tulip]

Show me. I will never believe

[scarlet lily]

Are there ogryn bots though, that's my question.. I don't think I have ever seen them

[scarlet lily]

A bot montage would be great lmao

[glad tulip]

All bots I've seen are doing pepega shit in my games

[scarlet lily]

They tend to mimic the player

[uneven sparrow]

The bots need a competent leader and they work good

Cus they follow the front and res whoever is down

[scarlet lily]

But, even so, they will do derpy stuff

[glad tulip]

Somebody is down? Let's help them. Proceed to run over, get clapped by horde, swing sword 2 times and try to pick up again, get slapped again, get downed.

[paper trail]

mine dont even swing 2 times

[uneven sparrow]

Essentially if one falls and the other is able to fight stuff, the bot can deal with the res

[scarlet lily]

I like bots, up until they somehow get split up and end up going down. THAT BEING SAID. Players respawning when joing instantly if a bot is downed, or bots respawning if a player leaves is great.

[spare niche]

Peril block and force sword u are invincible on revives

[scarlet lily]

If you're in 4/5 and its gunna be a wipe, you can be the matyr, leave and spawn a bot for the team

But crafting materials..

[scarlet lily]

Until a crusher or ragers roll up...

But you can usually force push rez in time

[uneven sparrow]

It’s gonna rush to revive or protect the front guy so you might as well facilitate it

[spare niche]

^ I always try and get my special and sword out when someone goes down it’s a very good chance to get a revive in.

Remember there time down is limited but if u watch the red triangle fight off as much as u can before that goes full black and ur solid

Too many people rush to revive causing a wipe

[scarlet lily]

I've noticed that if I rez them in the crowd usually around them, they tend to go back down. I've started clearing the groups or saving force push for when they are rezzed, so we can leave the middle of the horde

Ala ogryn charge

[spare niche]

Yea it’s best to clear first as much as u can before u revive

Otherwise it’s hell haha

[uneven sparrow]

I was down and with 1 friend, they didn’t see and got stuck in the fall animation, guess what the other two bots following him did

Jumped down with him

Loyal to a fault

[glad tulip]

Brother... Today i had a game so bad I've never slapped myself across the face that hard.
Basically had couple of jocks follow around, they probably just started playing heresy based on how they rushed ahead without doing much else. They ended up dropping down on the map where u place servo skull in middle of the room where u drop from medicae. Me and other guy decided to stay up top, clear elites and lesser junk from there, then drop down. What did the other 2 do? They went leroooy jenkiiiins in there, rushed in, got cocked by already existing elites, new horde and new elites coming in. Basically 3 mutants, 5 ragers, 3-4 gunners and 2 dogs. We got wiped pretty fast.

[scarlet lily]

You can defend from the small room right of the door (if looking at the door)

People spawn just out front of the door, and the horde won't spawn behind you + choke

[spare niche]

Best one is where vets rush forward without the team and get clapped lmao

Or a zealot

[scarlet lily]

I don't mind people running ahead as long as when we're together we cover each other's backs. I'll join groups where it's obvious 2 of them are in discord and playing for each other and not the group.

I run 'ahead'/off the main path for crafting materials all the time because people ignore the crates So I'll usually overlook it as long as they're not instantly dying lol

[glad tulip]

Same

[scarlet lily]

They tend to learn after a death or living with 2 purple bars

[pine iris]

I think the next class to drop will be traitor guard

[glad tulip]

I usually am the only one running around looking for crates and hidden mats

[scarlet lily]

I only do missions for crafting materials now lol

[glad tulip]

Amount of people that profited out of me is astonishing

[crude cape]

Hey - what are the best perks to have on a surge (lightning) staff?
anything stands out as really good? kinda like having Deflector on a force sword, any must haves?

[scarlet lily]

200+ plasteel on a heresy run is a good day

[scarlet lily]

Peril resist with warp charges is nice, quietude is good overall

The rest don't really play along with surge staff

[crude cape]

sorry i mean perks on the weapon

not talents

[scarlet lily]

ah

[spare niche]

I love overcharging and sacrificing myself to clear hordes sometimes it’s great haha

[near wyvern]

Quietitude is not just enough toughness generation unless you also run Quickening

[scarlet lily]

Tbh talents on surge rn is kinda scuffed, take what you get but I wouldn't stress it

Uninterrupted or soulburn on crit would probably be cool

I've yet to get either for a surge

[glad tulip]

Surge is more of a walking cc bot for elites

[dawn orchid]

Mhm, hardly does damage

[near wyvern]

Soulblaze on crit is useless garbage

[dawn orchid]

At least on higher difficulties

-75% to unarmored haha

[scarlet lily]

25% toughness on force push, and constant regen from blocking/surging.. It's pretty nasty, especially with toughness regen curious (from my experience)

[glad tulip]

Voidstrike however...

[scarlet lily]

Soulblaze is pretty weak, but most of the other blessings are either bugged, or hard to confirm how effective they are

[fiery zenith]

Is it possible for soulblaze on crit for purge staff?

[glad tulip]

Quite good horde clear+ stagger

[dawn orchid]

Wish charging it would make it chain for more enemies or something

Or it could chain to the same target if there’s nothing else around

[obtuse lake]

uwu

[scarlet lily]

Maybe? I figured it'd be pretty good since it's got a good crit modifier and doesn't do much damage anyways

[near wyvern]

With essence harvest and psychic communion you have pretty much permanent 10% toughness regen per second on my bigger fight

And if you are in a pinch you can always hide behind a corner and BB to get yourself up quickly

It's a lot faster if 50% regen is not enough.

[spare niche]

ive used all 3 staffs and i feel more useful using surge IMO. just felt like i could just support the higher DPS just stunning the fuckers and keeping the rear secure.

trappers flamers etc

[scarlet lily]

15% cd reduction for me and the boys is too much to pass up on for 4%

Quietude allows for insane burst toughness regen

But it depends on playstyle for sure

[tiny wharf]

That's more or less the 'proper' way to play psyker on heresy/damnation. We are a worse sharpshooter if you're trying to be dps.
We're the best at keeping all the elites at bay though.

[near wyvern]

You don't really need warp flurry on surge. It doesn't hurt tho especially if you want to spam as fast as you can for CCing many

Warp nexus is solid

[obtuse lake]

well I am waiting for the "craft" system to be completed to swap blessings

[spare niche]

100% ii focus on the long distances with BB and make sure the soldier can blast

LOL

[obtuse lake]

but atm this is what i run

[near wyvern]

Depends what build you running

I do purge so I pick up 15% ult CDR since I will get stacks from kinetic flayer + random soulblaze kill steals.

Makes for a good combo when you see a horde coming, even if low on stacks do 4 BB into ult and start purging. Will get 4 stacks back in no time and clear the trash.

Team can easily clean up elites and you are ready to go for round 2.

[scarlet lily]

If you're doing the warp cycling feats + purge yeah the 4% is nice, I tend to only take that on lower difficulties though. More fun, but less potential to save the other apes

[near wyvern]

Yeah but at least it's not freaking salvo thingy cause I got a surge with run n gun + salvo. Almost cried but it had crappy stats as well so I converted to dockets

[dawn orchid]

Yeah, surge spam and peril blocking are the only two things the class really has going for it currently. Even then, Ogryn can block gigablock very nicely with shield and flamer can stun the shit out of specials/elites and clear hordes on top of it.

[scarlet lily]

Surge spam does some nice damage as well

It ignores armor iirc

[obtuse lake]

indeed

[dawn orchid]

Only to armored enemies

It does -75% damage to unarmored

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-heroes-giru-hero-robot-shield-kikoha-gif-16032345

[scarlet lily]

Yeah, typically the ones still standing through the flame throwers and power swords

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-lightsaber-deflect-deflection-gif-14785820

[burnt python]

surge feels so bad on dreg heavy maps

i hate how situational it is

[spare niche]

idk why people feel that i feel great with surge on higher levels

[dawn orchid]

It doesn’t come close to bolsters though

[scarlet lily]

I like surge and purge

[timid brook]

Surge never feels bad learn to use ur melee lmao

[near wyvern]

Not true.

Purge > Surge if you know what you are doing.

Then there is also Void which is really good DPS but you absolutely need the transfer blessing on it (quell peril on weak spot hits). If you get a void with transfer and warp flurry you will become a god.

[burnt python]

i spend 80% of my time on psyker in melee lol, surge doesn't bring a lot to the table if you are good in melee

[scarlet lily]

Unlimited ammo, tracking bolts that will shock even hidden enemies, can be used through small cracks ||and even full ass walls||

Bolters great, but there is no safer ranged weapon

[spare niche]

i love surge and it brings to the table if ur team aint retarded

lol

[tranquil fiber]

A good Psyker knows when to melee and when to surge

[spare niche]

and using ur SURGE and not spam it on hordes and focus on elites u wont have a drama

[dawn orchid]

Minuscule damage, bad into hordes, and still needs to “reload”

[scarlet lily]

It's nice even if they are, but def. shines with a team that takes advantage of surged enemies

[timid brook]

Surge stuns everything but monstrosities

[tranquil fiber]

If you are grouped well you can make room to surge and make it easier to keep mobs off your allies; thats your job at the end of the day.

[jovial frigate]

I just tried surge for the first time in a week and we lost because 3 vets with no horde clear. back to voidstrike i go

[spare niche]

if u dont focus on horde stunning but focus on elites and specials and use ur melee to fend off hordes as you should have horde clears on your team you wont have a struggle

[near wyvern]

Surge is the best with 3 veteran stack. They bring a shit ton DPS so having the fourth guy for holding threats in place seals the deal.

[dawn orchid]

Also purge is alright, but you’re better off having a zealot with a flamer

[scarlet lily]

Damage slaps with good rolls, hordes are a hard call since they can be composed of all different things with different cases

[obtuse lake]

yeah it sucks

[ivory marsh]

purge is just way worse flamer

[spare niche]

ive literally never struggled. ive had a zealot, 2 vets or 2 ogryn and a vet

[ivory marsh]

less range less damage

[burnt python]

so does an axe, trauma, or void

[scarlet lily]

Reload time is kinda nutty with good quell rolls

[spare niche]

never had any drama

[dawn orchid]

-75% damage to unarmored

[spare niche]

skill issues

[uneven sparrow]

Flame staff is so easy to control and has stagger on it tho

[timid brook]

Ok ur baitinf

[scarlet lily]

Unarmored, the weakest enemy type already

[nimble burrow]

nice

[scarlet lily]

[dawn orchid]

Most common enemy type

[tropic halo]

nice

[dawn orchid]

Flamer also staggers everything

[scarlet lily]

Flak is the most likely to kill you

[spare niche]

flamer just blinds me

LOL

[nimble burrow]

gunna need your gunners on for the purge staff

[fiery zenith]

Yeah, love the flamer but it's just so blinding.

[uneven sparrow]

This is the Psyker chat

[fiery zenith]

Alright, purge staff.

[scarlet lily]

Purge can stagger with lmb spam, but it'll only stagger specials on application of burning or something like that iirc

[dawn orchid]

And we’re comparing psyk to other classes

[near wyvern]

Purge has more stagger than zealot flamer. Purge staff will stagger up to Bulwark.

You stagger with left click and damage with right. I actually use more left clicks than right clicks.

Mine has also run and gun on it so I can just sprint and instantly stagger enemies which is super handy.

[uneven sparrow]

I know

[dawn orchid]

Can the flamer get run and gun?

[spare niche]

also when i do surge i focus on the guys behind the walls and just lightning strike them a couple times they stand up and get shwacked

[scarlet lily]

ye, if you mean the staff

[dawn orchid]

No, the actually flamer

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/upshock-upshockgg-gif-18209107

[dawn orchid]

Not purge

[scarlet lily]

Flamer gets uhh reload speed buffs, but they don't have run n gun from the drops I've seen

[dawn orchid]

Curious

[ivory marsh]

i mean use what you want but the pruge staff just seems like such a meme

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/nods-yes-not-wrong-its-true-story-valid-point-gif-14782869

[tranquil fiber]

don't need run gun when you can sprint into slide xD

[scarlet lily]

Purge is just not advised for quickplay at 4/5

You can make it work for sure

[burnt python]

i've tried to love purge but it just doesnt do enough

the dmg is pitiful

[uneven sparrow]

Its pretty funny purging with the right kit

[tranquil fiber]

sliding has zero movement penalties

[dawn orchid]

Soul burn has non linear scaling damage

You need a bunch of stacks for it to start doing anything noticeable

[scarlet lily]

You're just relying on your team a bit more with it for some situations

[burnt python]

yes which means you get to spend 5-10 seconds before yuou are doing comprable dmg to other options

[tulip willow]

hii

[fiery zenith]

hi there mate

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[uneven sparrow]

Zealot claims to have an amazing flamer

[dawn orchid]

Which is why I’m less inclined to rate the staff as being quite as good as the flamer

[tranquil fiber]

Purge build is more 6 stacks and ult than actually charged left click

[burnt python]

soulflame needs some love badly

[tranquil fiber]

thats where the builds damage is

[uneven sparrow]

But it’s my name in the corner on the elite when the zealot and I are side by side

[burnt python]

ascendant blaze is garbage too lol

[uneven sparrow]

Maybe I just aim better than pubs

[spare niche]

it can be good if built right

does good tick

[near wyvern]

It's not a damage staff, it's a CC staff.

When you want damage you dish out your ult with 4 blaze stacks and then start applying more on that. The 4 stack ult will kill trash by themselves up to T5 but ranged dies only up to T4 if I remember correctly.

But the thing is it has unlimited targets within the range.

[tranquil fiber]

So really you shine every 25-30s xD

[spare niche]

if built correctly

[timid brook]

Purge in 4/5 might aswell come out and say u want free carries

[tranquil fiber]

Surge, you shine the moment you charge 1s and left click.

[burnt python]

purge in 5 is nearly useless

every other staff can cc too

[dawn orchid]

Well

[ivory marsh]

the flamer has twice the range of the purge staff, but both are applying a dot its free real estate as to who gets the kill

[near wyvern]

No you pick up 15% CDR on elite kills so you can do it again and again

[dawn orchid]

Trauma

[burnt python]

trauma cc's better than purge lmao

[dawn orchid]

Wouldn’t go that far

[uneven sparrow]

As long as you cc with the fire it works nice

[dawn orchid]

I mean, maybe. But it’s ass.

[timid brook]

If ur using purge for cc ur a huge goober

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[scarlet lily]

Didn't you say you take the 4% for warp charges though..

[burnt python]

i'd rather have trauma in damnation than purge any day

in fact i do usually run trauma in damn cus kneecaps

[wanton cove]

Is voidstrike ok in 4 and 5?

[spare niche]

imagine using trauma staff

[uneven sparrow]

Veteran or zealot remove thy mask

I am scoob

[bright cipher]

pass the zaza brother i wanna get as fucked up as you

[burnt python]

good in 4 falls off a bit in 5

[near wyvern]

No I said I don't take it. I take kinetic flayer and ascendant blaze.

[tranquil fiber]

not really, you need to build up 6 stacks for it to be worth it again, and most of the time you'll be lucky to get 3 back if your team don't kill the horde before soul flame does the last tick of damage to proc at 10% chance

[timid brook]

I have all classes 30

[ivory marsh]

also the purge staff is just strictly worse than the void

[wanton cove]

I see… I struggle with the cc staff because I mostly pub and people don’t always follow up on the stunned and marked specials

[bright cipher]

brother really said surge is bad on damnation

yoooooooo

im actually i tears

[wanton cove]

So I guess the solution is don’t pub lol

[bright cipher]

my sides hurt

[ivory marsh]

like instead of spending time burning a bunch of enemies you can just dome them...IN A LINE

[tranquil fiber]

to which by then you either BB for 3 or hope you get one for free from 10% BB.

[bright cipher]

im actually choking up

[timid brook]

"Bad on pugs" isnt an argument lmao

[dawn orchid]

Surge? Just keep stunning everything forever, pubs love me for it.

[tranquil fiber]

this is why people run the 4% option so you don't need to rely on the soul flame proc killing and granting warp charges

[bright cipher]

this channel never fails to bring me entertainment when i need it

[burnt python]

surge is good in 5 but not as good as some of you act like it is

[bright cipher]

im dead fr fr

[tranquil fiber]

don't get me wrong, damage is great

[uneven sparrow]

It’s either do no damage and accept your role as mall security guard with a taser

[near wyvern]

4 is enough. 6 stacks takes too long to acquire especially without kinetic flayer, and then you would have to pick up psychic communion as well. Just not worth it.

The 4 stack + stagger + purge with staff on top is the way to go.

[uneven sparrow]

Or use the flame staff

[tranquil fiber]

it's a lot of prep if you like that playstyle

[uneven sparrow]

Or void

[grave bobcat]

MALL COP

[bright cipher]

i need to stand up and do a lap around the room thats how funny that statement was

[scarlet lily]

Surge is get out of free jail card

[bright cipher]

haha jezus

[scarlet lily]

And sith lord

[wanton cove]

@dawn orchid yeah it’s just idk if it’s bad luck but I always find myself stun locking the special/big bois coming in and marking them and people leave me to kill them myself which can be a struggle sometimes

[tranquil fiber]

4 can be enough to finish off, but if your team haven't wiped out the horde before you can Ult again, something is up with your team

[bright cipher]

malicebabs really theorycrafting in this chat rn

[uneven sparrow]

Renaming surge psyker to Paul blart

[timid brook]

Surge is literally mandatory, at some point u have 2 hounds 3 mutants up fucking ur team and literally nothing else will save the run

[bright cipher]

im wheezin'

[grave bobcat]

Paul Surge

[tranquil fiber]

4 stacks is more efficient for sure.

[dawn orchid]

Are you standing inside the goon circle for maximum meat shields?

Usually they notice things right in front of them

[tranquil fiber]

6 is where the melting damage is at.

[burnt python]

i mean i play 90% damnation and rarely run surge, it's not even close to mandatory

[dawn orchid]

Usually

[bright cipher]

what the fuck a tear actually ran down my cheek from laughter

[bright cipher]

[bitter abyss]

not the best, but those damage numbers are nice.

[timid brook]

Bros carried in damnation

[scarlet lily]

Different uses, all fun, some clunky, all can be used fine

[ivory marsh]

that staff pretty much requires you to nut hug your team. wouldn't blame you if you dont like it

[spare niche]

if u cant yeet a doggo into the stratosphere ur doing it wrong

[supple skiff]

https://prnt.sc/BLTILxZnxwX7 thoughts

[spare niche]

https://gfycat.com/TerribleInfantileAnteater

[bright cipher]

mans out here running trauma on 5

[teal needle]

Surge is not at all mandatory at any point.

It's just a hell of a lot cozier to bring it

[near wyvern]

You wipe the horde 5-15 sec after you have ulted. The 15% CDR is for the next wave / oh shit moment.

For which you will have 4 stacks ready to go. The chance to kill someone with soulblaze is not that high but when you hit 100 trash mobs with it and use staff on top it's guaranteed stacks back.

[bright cipher]

"yoo bro its good fr fr no cap"

[uneven sparrow]

[echo parrot]

Hot take: Maybe you are only good with surge so therefore you think everything else is bad

[bright cipher]

slap my knees, dress me up as a hooker and throw me off a peer my knees are weak thank god im sitting down

[burnt python]

ya'll are hilarious you try 1 thing thats effective and assume the rest are trash

[bright cipher]

[burnt python]

if you want to be optimal in damnation you aint running a staff anyways

[timid brook]

Bro by the time ur soulstacks tick the ogryn with rumbler already killed all the poxwalkers in 2 shots

Pls stop lmak

[bright cipher]

i got ashtma from laughing

hahahahahahhahaha

[timid brook]

Ill admit purple ur good at baiting

[hot tulip]

Yyyiiikeess

[bright cipher]

@burnt python thank u for the prime bait my man you made my day 🥲

[hot tulip]

Yeah

He's good

[bright cipher]

you brought joy to this channel

[tranquil fiber]

Yeah I can see that but that's very situational and map dependent to see 6 roll back - which is where you want to be with that kind of build.
I'm guessing start 6, finish with 4 stack?

[uneven sparrow]

What if everyone was ogryns

[echo parrot]

Meta damnation kit is recon lasgun and devils claw, change my mind.

[bright cipher]

pretty sure if you hit someone with a devils claw theyre gonna think youre coming onto them cuz that thing hits like a dil-do

ayo shopkeeper with the hookup

[teal needle]

This must be a typo sibling, should have been "change my incomparable mind!!!"

[echo parrot]

[supple skiff]

is crafting going to include upgrading the tiers of blessings

[spare niche]

fuk u bro

but nice

[uneven sparrow]

The ps quintuple

[echo parrot]

Damn you got me

[half kite]

yay or nay?

[bright cipher]

what faction would chad warden be in 40k?

[grave bobcat]

Found a knife with bleed so trying it now

[trail tapir]

The meta damnation is just not bringing a psyker

[grave bobcat]

DS, nay

[tranquil fiber]

looks fun, how much for a good time?

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/craig-jones-ice-cube-friday-high-stoned-gif-7909672

[bright cipher]

man ive finally calmed down

something about coming home after a long day of work, opening the discord and seeing that comment first thing

[timid brook]

Wdym lol psyker is a must have for damnation

[echo parrot]

Dont be surprised when it doesnt do much

[bright cipher]

got me fucked up

[burnt python]

just straight up wrong lol

[spare niche]

hope ur okay man ❤️

[echo parrot]

Especially if its Lacerate

[grave bobcat]

I'm not surprised 🥲

Dookie

[tranquil fiber]

personally I'd take it, it looks like a fun weapon to me.

[near wyvern]

No I don't run warp battery

On a big horde:

If you don't have stacks and you see the horde coming, you BB until 4, then ult, then get the purge out and you are back to 4 stacks and get 15% CD back for every elite dead in coherency.

If you don't have stacks up and don't see the horde coming then just right click a choke until 2-3 stacks (basically the moment kinetic flayer procs). Then ult and continue staffing.

The ult soulblaze stacks with your staff, so even if you don't get that much out, the knockdown helps and you will get to 4 the moment you have your ult back.

[bright cipher]

i prob lost a kg or two from laughing so hard

[spare niche]

i love it when vet mains come into this chat and be like "yeah psykers are shit fam"

LOL

[echo parrot]

Yep.

[spare niche]

we use our brain

[grave bobcat]

I want a good dagger now though cause I Really like the block attack

[echo parrot]

Same vets are the ones thanking us for clutch resing them while herding the entire horde.

Hekhekhek

The funny™️

[trail tapir]

Yeah but you guys almost stopped having an argument

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-carrying-teamwork-funny-gif-12360121

[wanton cove]

Sometimes! A lot of the times tho with the vets especially they are all over the place 🤣

[near wyvern]

My experience in Heresy when the new vets come from their malice runs and start sprinting through to get downed on the next corner.

[echo parrot]

If I had an Aquila for every time I had to borderline carry because most of the time died, I wouldnt have to pay for micro-transactions.

[spare niche]

they drop down and face off with 3 bulwarks and be like "HEY TEAM WHY U NOOB"

[echo parrot]

(exageration but I just had to make the joke)

[jovial frigate]

[burnt python]

unfortunate lol

stam is useless for psyk

[spare niche]

ur gonna be like an athlete on a marathon

[jovial frigate]

yall are acting like theyre gonna let us get away with peril block for much longer

you know its coming

[hot tulip]

NO STOP

[spare niche]

shhhhh

BE QUIET

[hot tulip]

DELET

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[red basin]

can someone tell me what peril block is

[paper trail]

never heard of it

[spare niche]

neither

[mental rock]

they wouldnt take away peril block... shit they might

[normal marten]

The perk

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-well-where-is-it-looking-for-something-gif-5291661

[teal needle]

I think they're just going to nerf peril block on non force weapons

[spare niche]

SHHH

[paper trail]

this is not the feat you are looking for, move alomg

[jovial frigate]

they wont take it away

[red basin]

maaaaaan im legit asking lmao

[jovial frigate]

the same way they didnt take brainburst away

[burnt python]

prolly just hte passive quell if i had to guess

[normal marten]

It's just the perk

[burnt python]

kinetic deflection in feat tree

[teal needle]

The agreement is we just don't talk about it so fs doesn't notice

[near wyvern]

There was a demon host that we could not get around. I had the Devil's Claw sword on and obviously running the absolutely broken kineitc deflector.

I said to the team: " I can tank it. Are you ready?"

What does the veteran do?

- Announce that they are ready
- start immediately shooting at the demonhost

[spare niche]

5 seconds to look

before i delet

[red basin]

tank u

[spare niche]

(:

[tranquil fiber]

Lemmie get this straight so,

• No stacks : 4 BB = 8 seconds prep
• Ult
• RNG stacks if not full BB to full
• Filler with left or charged left (while maintaining stacks with BB if need )
• Ult again

[hot tulip]

lel i mean its a perk no need to delet im just memeing

[red basin]

i kept seeing people reference it but wasnt sure if it was a feat i didnt remember or something

cool though, works like sienna

[burnt python]

you forgot the part where you still havent killed anything after 10 seconds

[red basin]

let us block with staves, psyker buff

[tropic halo]

that would probably be useful than the staff melee, at least

[hot tulip]

replace special action bash with block l m a o

yes pls

[spare niche]

so close

[tranquil fiber]

Mmmmmm that doesn't happen on Heresy especially with High intensive modifier

[red basin]

i like the light special push but having a heavy one too is stupid when it does nothing useful lmao

[hot tulip]

or at least let us apply soulblaze on staff melee

[teal needle]

If Sienna recovered about 80% heat every second passively while blocking yes

[tranquil fiber]

Fights can last for like 4-5 mins

[burnt python]

uhhh

[tropic halo]

uhhhh

[red basin]

i just meant like using it as a damage mitigation tool

[burnt python]

with purge? yes lmfao

[jovial frigate]

t. surge staff user

[hot tulip]

depends if ur other teammates are strugglebussing

[tranquil fiber]

I use both Surge and Purge before you assume

lmfao

[teal needle]

Yeah. It's just busted ATM compared to unchained. Hence everyone wanting to keep it on the DL ;p

[tranquil fiber]

How long do your missions last guys?

Heresy and above.

[spare niche]

20-30

[jovial frigate]

25 min

[burnt python]

bout 25-30 on damn

[red basin]

hey everyone else has like 1 busted thing i think its fair

[tranquil fiber]

cool same here so what the fuck are you doing then lol

fighting for 5 mins at a time

[hot tulip]

mine clock in around 35 on damnnation pugs

[spare niche]

;LOL

[tranquil fiber]

give or take

[red basin]

25ish mins unless the team is super good together, then maybe more like 15-20

[burnt python]

you realize you're insinuating theres like 4-5 fights in a run?

[hot tulip]

in general theres maybe a down or two that slows down clearspeed by like 2-3 minutes

[tranquil fiber]

if you are moving to check points efficiently its stop gaps for tasks

[timber fable]

yo @tranquil fiber that build you gave me for the fire staff is great! Do you have a recommendation for the lightning staff?

[hot tulip]

on heresy+

unless yall are cracked on adderall

[jovial frigate]

endless horde t4 engagements can last a long time on some maps

[spare niche]

i would...

[red basin]

the only time ive had a fight last like 4-5 mins is when you get a horde during a nurgle beast and everyone splits up and barely lives lmao

i heard there was a white hood

[hot tulip]

yeah if you quickplay 100 percent of the time, generally heresy+ runs are like 30mins+

becaues you have a high chance to get hi-intensity

this is also if you pug it

[burnt python]

id say maybe 10% of heresy qps take over 30 min

[tranquil fiber]

yesterday was hi-intensity alll day, and my runs were 30 mins average with pugs

[teal needle]

Heresy with lights out is I think my favorite way to play the game so far

It's just cool

[tranquil fiber]

some bits you can skip and some you have to deal with 3 mutants at once

which is intense.

[hot tulip]

malice and lower is like 22-25 mins

[red basin]

i still havent played higher than malice im too scared of randoms

[grave bobcat]

Scared? 😄

[tranquil fiber]

I pug 90% of the time because I'm a twat.

[hot tulip]

do heresy when trust 25+

[near wyvern]

Pretty much

No stacks:

• if horde coming and you have time, BB prep up to 4 times (or as many as you can)

• purge staff for RNG stacks if not at 4 (wait for kinetic flayer pop)

• Ult

• Filler with left clicks unless holding a door

• Ult again as needed

Then during down time / transitions, BB enemies you can't reach with the staff. Remember, left click with staff for CC, right click for damage.

Obviously run a regular melee weapon of your choice (I recommend the duelling for the added mobility) for auto quelling on the move.

With the duelling sword, you can stagger with 2 left clicks (sometimes 1 click just randomly misses an enemy), go in for 2 melee swings, dodge slide back and repeat if you don't need to stack up.

[uneven sparrow]

Dont worry just get to the point where you’re a team carrying Psyker

[hot tulip]

your gear plus kinetic flayer on trust 25+ will be great for heresy- sometimes you won't even feel that you are on heresy because of what you can do

[red basin]

i will lose uprising games sometimes after carrying like mad because my teammates are just running around doing god knows what or DCing every 4 minutes

[echo parrot]

I pretty much only do pugs. Only time I do malice nowadays is if I just want to run around head empty.

[tranquil fiber]

Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe playstyle is the most op thing one can have in this.
I don't really believe in "Best in slot" for this game.
If that playstyle works that's great I just wanna understand what works for ya

Item stats tho 355 or lower gtfo

[red basin]

i almost got a chance to do the monstrosity penance with THREE RANDOMS yesterday because a nurgle beast spawned in and they all ignored it and walked away and i had to try and solo it

however i died with it on like 15% hp i was crying

[grave bobcat]

Im boutta do Heresy run if you wanna join me

But I'm mostly messing around with a dagger

Because of somoene 🥲

[red basin]

bestie i am level 11

[lethal plover]

I can't really condone using ult for dps for fire staff
DPS is always a meme. Ult is what saves you when a dog or a bunch of special crap is whaling on you. Killing trash a bit faster is not as important as saving you and the team at key moments. But that's just my thinking

[grave bobcat]

Ah

[red basin]

ive been playing mainly vet but trying to level my psyker rn

[echo parrot]

[grave bobcat]

Part of me thinks bringing a lvl 11 will be funny, but I also know it'd mess up my matchmaking and put me with other sub 30's lmfao

[teal needle]

Malice has settled into "about vt2 champion" while heresy is "slightly easier than legendary with a decent group but there's a lot of bad builds in circulation that might make it harder" while Damnation is about... halfway between legendary and cataclysm? It's hard to match those because gunners make stuff so different. Maybe Damnation = legendary treacherous trail with beastmen on the map

[past patio]

I've found heresy to have less competent pugs than damnation

[grave bobcat]

Yeah same tbh

[lethal plover]

Good for heresy to be the filter

[echo parrot]

Not only less competent, but also more tilted.

[burnt python]

yeah randos get better as difficulty goes up

[tranquil fiber]

I'm running :

3 / 2 / 2 / 2 / 3 / 3

For my Surge Staff build - Ideal blessings are Charge time and Suppress

[grave bobcat]

But Damnation can go south REAL fast even with good randoms 🥲

[teal needle]

Damnation is mostly sweats and the occasional person going "I kinda just want to see what it's like"

[soft prawn]

just encountered the worst teammate i've experienced yet, he leeroyed into an army of elites and almost immediately died causing a team wipe, same teammate also charged into battle a few mins earlier and a teammate went in to help and accidentally woke the daemon host getting himself and another teammate killed

[burnt python]

damnation is "does your team have a competent las gunner"

[teal needle]

A few chievo hunters in Damnation lobbies too lol

[timber fable]

what does suppression actually do?

[grave bobcat]

I had a dude on an Endless T4 run refuse to leave a small room and his defense being "Hordes aren't infinite"

I pushed into the other area to trigger that small break you get. And he says "see"

🥲

[timber fable]

nvm
Suppression Suppression Against An Enemy Usually Causes Them To Run Away And Seek Cover. Suppression Against You Causes Your Weapon To Knock Around Whilst In ADS And Increases Inaccuracy.

[teal needle]

Enemies affected by suppression do a brief cowering emote. I don't see many enemies being affected by suppression though

[burnt python]

diff ranged weps have diff suppression values

[tranquil fiber]

thats the one

[grave bobcat]

Some people just don't want to be helped 🤷

[timid brook]

T4 and t5 enemies have resist

[timber fable]

So how does this look?

[timid brook]

Pretty decent tbh

[soft prawn]

is it possible to get stats into the 90s?

[tranquil fiber]

It's a good one to begin with

[teal needle]

Mid tier. Could be a lot better, but you could bring that and do fine

[tranquil fiber]

The Warp Flurry Blessing can get up to 10% charge time

[paper trail]

I think barrage is guff and never want it on any staff tbh it annoys me seeing it

[tranquil fiber]

I think 8-10% is where you want it to be

[burnt python]

charge doesnt matter on surge

[grave bobcat]

I've never even seen a +10 yet

[timber fable]

I'm caring less about the blessings and more about the first perk and base stats

given what fatshark have said about the crafting system

[burnt python]

it's 100% good enough to use for a while but wouldnt dump upgrade mats on it

[timber fable]

so then this one is better?

if charge time doesn't matter

[burnt python]

yes

that is better

marginally

[tranquil fiber]

base stats is a good guide

[glad tulip]

Infested dmg tho...

[grave bobcat]

Neither of them vry good but not bad if you don't have anything better

[soft prawn]

what are the best staves you guys have gotten

[timid brook]

You dont surge for dmg

[heavy zealot]

what does this mean

[glad tulip]

Cpt. Obvious

[tranquil fiber]

This is apparently the range of blessing you can get on Surge staff

[heavy zealot]

no sorry I meant to reply to base stats is a good guide

[teal needle]

When I get home in 6 hours I'll post my lucky af surge staff

[timid brook]

Cant roll any decent perks om staff anyways

[sterile lake]

upgraded a mid tier voidstrike to gold
it should be 425 now but it is enough for now
has quell on weak spot hit, and reduced charge time each RMB

[teal needle]

Only bad thing about it is I would rather have a good void strike lol

[tranquil fiber]

Focus Challening, Run and Gun are duds.
I doubt Warp Nexus is useful so that leaves only two left.

[burnt python]

focus channeling is.... alright only cus other optiosn suck

[timid brook]

Focus is good since gunner interrupt spam

[sterile lake]

i definitely wanna try out run and gun on a staff 😄

[stark snow]

can you only left click though with run n gun?

[glad tulip]

Voidstrike with quell on headshots is

[burnt python]

only works on lmb from what others have said

[long wharf]

are we sure you can't get blazing spirit on a surge staff?

[soft prawn]

run and gun doesnt really work on right click

[tranquil fiber]

If I remember correctly someone mentioned you cannot sprint and charge up at the same time

[glad tulip]

Yeah, charging works with sprinting, so it doesn't matter much

[tranquil fiber]

and lmb on surge is a mini void ball

[long wharf]

not void, just a "standard" projectile attack

[tranquil fiber]

ahh my bad yeah basic projectile

[teal needle]

I got this bad boy and immediately upgraded it to legendary. I think it got crit perk and blessing

[glad tulip]

Quell on headshots blessing for void makes it so much better for clearing hordes, makes other characters spam voicelines about psyker being angry and mad

[tranquil fiber]

yeah how it pierces mobs is satisfying

Very good at horde clearing

[teal needle]

"The psyker sure is coping, seething, and ratioed today" - the veteran, probably

[soft prawn]

charging doesn't work, you slow down

[glad tulip]

It does tho...

[fiery zenith]

thought only left click works with the move and shoot blessing?

[glad tulip]

You sprint slower, yes, but it works

[soft prawn]

you slow down when you charge

[glad tulip]

Still better than walk around

[soft prawn]

it isn't much faster than the normal charge speed

[glad tulip]

Wait, what

[echo parrot]

"Stop complaining witch and get good, now come over here and get me up" - the veteran, definitely.

[soft prawn]

i have it on my flame staff and was disappointed when I found out the charge while sprinting isnt much quicker than normal speed when charging

[glad tulip]

Nah, that's zealot

[spare niche]

Fragging Psykers....

[echo parrot]

Buy a lottery ticket.

[finite lynx]

witches

[tranquil fiber]

its a dud of a blessing, hopefully it's just not working as intended.

could be very useful on some maps

cough Torrent cough battery collection

[stark snow]

prolly better off dodge hopping during charging tbh

[soft prawn]

yea

[echo parrot]

When I get home I am going to blow all of my weekly currency on random melee weapons

Pray for 380 knife

[tranquil fiber]

yeah dodging and charging is better

[undone quiver]

Looking for advice, I feel like i get chewed up to hel during shooting portions. Like, when there's a traitor guard patrol, for example

What do you do

[spare niche]

i wish dailies come in soon for contracts :l

[soft prawn]

you just waste stamina trying to charge while sprinting with that perk, it's like cartoons where your legs are moving fast but you're barely moving lol

hopefully it's just bugged

[teal needle]

Honestly starting to think I'm just going to blow 3k tokens on gambling soon. I've got 6k and the bounty guy just poops on me every week

[glad tulip]

Quell on repeated weakspot/soulblaze + deflector on power sword probly best what there is

[tranquil fiber]

If you have stationary dodge toggled on, you move backwards when you don't have a direciton input

[echo parrot]

Run up to them and stab them, no joke.

[tranquil fiber]

good for tight spots to get behind cover and charge uninterrupted

[long wharf]

do you mean force sword?

[glad tulip]

Yes, that

[undone quiver]

Doesn't that just, like, get you even extra chewed up? That's what I was trying as zealot and it felt bad too

[fiery zenith]

Well it stops most of them from shooting

[teal needle]

Depends on staff, range, and other things. I wish I had a shorter answer but dealing with dreg and scab gunners is usually pretty situational

[tranquil fiber]

the dagger lacerate build?

[restive cave]

Any news from FS about psyker buffs or reworks?

[echo parrot]

Not if you know how to bob and weave as you close the distance

[undone quiver]

If you can get there I guess? And if they aren't spread out?

[undone quiver]

Go on

I clearly don't

[long wharf]

problem is he hands out trash

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-justin-long-wrench-cant-play-dodge-ball-gif-5487747

[stark snow]

I wouldn't mind high tier shred or slaughterer on FS

[long wharf]

trusting Sour Milk to give you something worth the time you spent earning his tokens is a fool's errand

[undone quiver]

Nah, Evi. Though, does it matter in this context?

[tranquil fiber]

run sprint, slide into cover like your life depends on it and poke your head out.

[echo parrot]

I am kinda half meming tbh, I use a knife so can dodge/sprint/slide between cover as I close gaps when I am not able to just left click with surge staff to try and get some quick picks. Depending on your melee weapon it might not be as easy to be as weasly.

[glad tulip]

Rather play his gacha and get all white 300 roll trash?

[undone quiver]

So, if it's a shooting alley, I basically just hide and boop things with surge staff or head pop or whatever

Like, if it feels like charging is suicide

[long wharf]

honestly, he ought to be handing out max modifier gear

at the least

[echo parrot]

If you were to watch some of my gameplay you will often see me running and sliding in and out of cover a lot

[teal cargo]

Surge staff is good for stunning shooters

If not, just hide behind cover amd spam BB

[tranquil fiber]

depends what advice you want, for Zealot Evi is mostly just push > push attack > create room for heavy cleave

[undone quiver]

Ok, yeah, that is largely what I have been doing, but I spend a lot of time hiding and quelling

[teal cargo]

You only need to quell to like 95% before you can BB again

[undone quiver]

Orly

[grave bobcat]

97%

[undone quiver]

Ok, that would speed things up

[glad tulip]

U can spam bb if u quell from 100 to 99 and use bb u can burst again and quell to 99 again

[tranquil fiber]

yeah quelling is like 90% of what Pskers do

[teal cargo]

So in a pinch can clear out gunners this way

[tranquil fiber]

yeah 97%

[soft prawn]

thought it was 90

[teal cargo]

whatever is not 100

[undone quiver]

Well, I don't think my timing is good enough to trim down to only 97 and not 95

[grave bobcat]

You will blow up at 98 🙂

[tranquil fiber]

if you BB, quell to 97% you can BB again and not explode

[teal cargo]

as long as you arent BBing at 100 you are fine

[undone quiver]

So you just bb the trash dregs and it's fine?

[tranquil fiber]

there was a bug with Surge and I think it persists on Trauma where if you cast at 80-85% you blew up.

[undone quiver]

I mean, it is kills which is nice

[teal cargo]

Yea

[tranquil fiber]

and in a rare case, you'd revive and blow up again

[fiery zenith]

Surge bug should have been fixed now

[teal cargo]

Yea Surge used to blow you up hitting 100 whole casting

[grave bobcat]

Thank god that bug isn't there anymore

[teal cargo]

doesnt do that anymore

[glad tulip]

On 80% u won't blow, 85 tho - u most likely will

[undone quiver]

Ahhhh

[grave bobcat]

It was 87%

[teal needle]

You can use a force sword with peril block and deflector and dodge spam sideways up to them like a crab on bath salts. If you have voidstrike and they're behind cover the fireball is so thicc you can shoot it a hair over cover and it will clip off heads. If the enemies are in the open you can staff primary headshot them to keep your toughness up as you approach. If you got surge staff just spam lightning it wins firefights fast pretty much the only time it does legit damage is against flak armor

[tranquil fiber]

I try not to go above 91 just incase !

[grave bobcat]

Cause 10% to cast

[tranquil fiber]

I might try 92 later tonight

[undone quiver]

Ok I thought I was misunderstanding that, I definitely had habits built out of needing to clear a lot

[tranquil fiber]

I jest but 97% is the sweet spot.

[undone quiver]

Well, flak armor is what the shooters generally have....

[teal cargo]

Yea sometimes ypu forced to BB clear shooters cos team comp

[tranquil fiber]

Oh also a good tip is if your team mates mark a target, BB the SKULL ICON it helps you lock on the target if its buried under a lot of mobs or there are just too many heads to choose from.

[teal cargo]

Yea Surge is real gpod vs the scab gunners

[glad tulip]

I find it funny how well surge works against dogshit that wears any kind of armor in general

[sterile lake]

if you keep your f ready you can always get into the blowup animation and then use your ability, it works 100 % in my experience

[undone quiver]

A lot of my muscle memory is VT, so I just don't have the instinct to crouch-slide as much

But that'll come with time

[grave bobcat]

Yeah my F is the "shit I went over 100 again"

[timber fable]

if you have the deflector perk on your force sword does the warp resistance stat from the sword affect how much peril it costs to block?

[burnt python]

f is bb go brrr

[timber fable]

oh right you need that feat too

[teal needle]

Oh yeah crouch sliding like a Destiny 2 ape is fairly effective

[echo parrot]

Yes

Oh wait

No

[tranquil fiber]

Yeah, thats solid advice, always gotta keep that ultimate in the chamber incase things get too spicy.

[echo parrot]

I think?

[sterile lake]

you mean deflector PLUS the peril block

[echo parrot]

Dumb rabbit moment

[timber fable]

yes

[teal cargo]

I use F key for Ascendent Blaze

[tranquil fiber]

Being Palpatine and giving hordes unlimited broadband is thirsty work

[teal needle]

I haven't tested it but think block efficiency works with peril blocking?

[undone quiver]

Eat 5g heretic!

[grave bobcat]

Not tested it either

[teal cargo]

Apparently block eff do

[sterile lake]

ok just wanted to clarify, no idea though, because I do not use the peril block feat

[grave bobcat]

You should 🥲

[teal needle]

It's busted good

[fiery zenith]

deflect + peril block is just too good.

[hot tulip]

Warp resist is tied to all warp gain

This also stacks with Warp resist talent per warp stack

[sterile lake]

I am not a big blocker, I like to spamdodge

[patent hatch]

dueling sword gamer

[undone quiver]

Yeah but peril block is hilarious

[hot tulip]

at least that's how it's being tested and done rn

[glad tulip]

1. Run ascendant blaze with 4% warp charge on kill.
2. Build up 100% peril and 4 warp charges on horde.
3. Press F.
4. ?
5. Profit

[hot tulip]

Yes peril block is super good

[undone quiver]

Proc daemonhost? I'll just hold block and get a sandwich

[sterile lake]

I use force sword so peril block would have different results than a non force weapon

[grave bobcat]

No cause its shit 😄

My warp stacks provide more damage tthan the blaze ever will

[patent hatch]

idk the tactical axe is best weapon

[vast current]

man I'm 30 and I don't ever find anything with modifiers above 350 on the exchange

[long wharf]

I think you meant combat axe

[patent hatch]

either work tactical just feels better

[teal needle]

It's great for clutching, worth it over the others to become an ogryn when getting people up

[sterile lake]

i am 32 😐

[long wharf]

I love the feel of the combat axe

[patent hatch]

that's not a level 💀

[undone quiver]

Saaame

[grave bobcat]

@echo parrot The goddamn heavy slide on this thing is amazing

[sterile lake]

it is my age though

[echo parrot]

Yep

[tranquil fiber]

I'm only running Combat Axe because the Force Sword push was pissing me off.

[echo parrot]

Welcome to the sisterhood

Er

[glad tulip]

Who asked that question though?

[echo parrot]

Things

[sterile lake]

t'was a joke

[glad tulip]

m'kay

[tranquil fiber]

pat pat not that far behind ya

[long wharf]

32 isn't that old

[tranquil fiber]

nah its not at all, I'm feeling the changes though

[glad tulip]

Force sword supremacy.
Wish it wasn't so scuffed from first person perspective tho

[soft prawn]

do you guys prefer kinetic deflection, or shield?

[sterile lake]

enjoy not having random pains, weaknesses to temperatures and the fear of falling and getting yourself injured

[sterile lake]

it really is not, but the changes are not subtle

anyways

[burnt python]

why does cold weather hurt after 30

[teal needle]

I miss being able to eat kielbasa or chorizo without being in agony for days.

[burnt python]

i used to love cold

[sterile lake]

wait until everything unhealthy you did all your life before starts showing haha
my knee now hurts when there is a storm approaching no joke

[tranquil fiber]

joint ache is a weird sensation.

[burnt python]

time to become a meteorologist

[dull shale]

I’m glad I kept in shape

[teal needle]

I do like having disposable income and a cozy low effort decent pay career though lol. Some upsides to getting older

[tranquil fiber]

I still love the cold

[tranquil fiber]

ahhh the weathered knee

[sterile lake]

i started tucking my shirts and i get a hangover over nothing
but other than that i am feeling pretty fine so far

[teal needle]

My knee screams at me when it gets cold but it's not an injury I just have a shitty joint and there's nothing I could have done about it 😠

[burnt python]

get the sweet new balance yet?

[sterile lake]

no, nb is nike i think
i am a puma person

[tranquil fiber]

I prefer Kinetic Shield but im tempted to give Deflection a try

[echo parrot]

Ive been using new balance most of my life. I still wear the same pair ive had for 8 years.

Function over form

As far as shoes are concerned for me anyways

[burnt python]

spoken like a true father

[tropic halo]

ya'll making me feel old

[soft prawn]

what Im learning from chat atm is that at 11:59 on the day before your 30th bday, your bones will snap crackle and pop

[tranquil fiber]

preferably I don't want to be melee to be using that talent but having resistance vs a few ranged shots is more appealing to me - as im not running force sword

[tropic halo]

also yeah drinking's not really worth it anymore beyond a few at most.

[tranquil fiber]

hahahaah

[glad tulip]

Will FS ever address the mobs spawning out of nowhere behind your back? I feel like lots of aspects of this game is cock and balls torture... Without the cock and balls.

[tranquil fiber]

take all your supplements nowww!

[tropic halo]

yeah and you start thinking bathroom accessories are good gifts llike a good bath robe

[cyan echo]

When you're past 30 you'll workout 4 times a week to look out of shape

[echo parrot]

I have this apparent superpower where I am immune to hangovers, even with be being close to 30. No matter how heavy I go, I wake up in the morning just a little bleh and in about 30 mins I am good to go. Kinda wasted on me tbh, I rarely ever drink lol.

[tropic halo]

facts

[tranquil fiber]

[uneven sparrow]

Take more supplements live on the toilet

[tropic halo]

the bathroom is holy terra

[sterile lake]

true
also you misplaced your cushion, one day of pain
sit in moving air for 2 hours, one and a half days of pain

[cyan echo]

Patch notes for 30

• Reduced metabolic rate by 50%

[tropic halo]

fuck, nerfs again

[tranquil fiber]

those toilet breaks are a peace haven, switzerland I say!

[sterile lake]

that is solid, i am not sure, somedays i drank 4 beers and was slightly beside everything, someday i drank a bottle of wine and had to puke next morning

[tropic halo]

tbf wine has more chances of hangovers due to all the sulfrates and stuff

[uneven sparrow]

Quadruple bypass burger

[sterile lake]

but it is way better in calories, which also becomes important after hitting 30 😐

[tranquil fiber]

I think I hit the nail on the head with my hangovers with a good ol ritual

[soft prawn]

apparently you enter endgame at age 30 lmao

[echo parrot]

My worst night was a jug (not a bottle, a huge jug) of fireball. I woke up in my front lawn the next morning next to am empty jug.

[burnt python]

liquor is optimal for drunk to calorie ratio

i dont have a problem i swear

[grave bobcat]

Well it's a shocking change to see this chat nott arguing but instead talking about THE UNSTOPPABLE MARCH OF TIME

[echo parrot]

Nowadays I can take around 4-5 margaritas before cutting myself off.

[grave bobcat]

Margaritas ❤️

[cyan echo]

Bottle of wine = around 700 calories, 6 beers around 1000-1200

[grave bobcat]

Fuck yes

[cyan echo]

Unless you're a biomancer, gotta face the facts

[grave bobcat]

Well taht depends on what wine and what beer???

[tranquil fiber]

nah at 30 the tutorial has finished and the real game begins.

[echo parrot]

I am very much a tequila queen

[grave bobcat]

Same

[echo parrot]

For beers I prefer sours

[tropic halo]

highballs. shot of something, and then some carbonation. pure efficiency. hydration while still getting buzzed and keepign the calories low

[cyan echo]

Yeah this is an average

[grave bobcat]

Fav tequila?

[teal needle]

Love tequila and mezcal both

[uneven sparrow]

Whoever is telling you this is old and bitter

[sterile lake]

i definitely need to try out fireball
it sounds delicious

[burnt python]

sours are where its at

[echo parrot]

Don Julio, mainly because that's what they put in my margaritas at Longhorn lol.

[grave bobcat]

6 pints is literally 3.5 litres lmfao

[tranquil fiber]

agreed. despite some of the gripes at body aches and stuff its where everything starts to make sense

[grave bobcat]

YES don jolui lmfao

[echo parrot]

Outside of that I am pretty basic with just Patron.

[tropic halo]

being a psyker is such pain we've all now begun to talk about being old and about our drinking habits

[cyan echo]

Tbf 30+ is awesome

[tranquil fiber]

sours are the way

[grave bobcat]

Whereas 1 bottle of wine is usually 70cl

[uneven sparrow]

There’s a place for old bitters, and that’s on the mixer shelf

[grave bobcat]

Wtf skewed average we workin off lol

[tranquil fiber]

my gf worked for a brewery and got to make her own sour

[teal needle]

Casa dragones is the best new tequila I've had recently

[sterile lake]

thanks for the tip

[grave bobcat]

I actually hate wine 🥲

[spare niche]

fuck wine

sambuca

[tropic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/ginger-ale-jameson-whiskey-gif-13504602

[spare niche]

[grave bobcat]

I always try it when I get chance, but never once liked it

[tranquil fiber]

Apricot Sour

[tropic halo]

cheers

[echo parrot]

I have only had fireball myself as far as cinnamon whisky is concerned, but everyone I have talked to about it said that jack daniels cinnamon whisky is better.

[burnt python]

i brew & keg in my garage which was a lot more fun before i started calculating the calories in my beers

[sterile lake]

lockdowns changed me
also it was right when I hit 30, so everything i drank just stuck to my body somehow

[spare niche]

nothing beats a cold pepsi max

[grave bobcat]

QUEEN

[burnt python]

made some hazy beers that were 400+ calories per 12oz lmao

[tropic halo]

yeah lockdowns got to me so bad i started growing boobs, i know what you mean

[cyan echo]

It's to make all that sitting down more comfortable

[echo parrot]

Same here. Never could get on the wine train. Enjoyed some champagne every now and then though.

[uneven sparrow]

I bathe in Hennessy

[tropic geyser]

This is the best staff I have at the moment, opinions?

[grave bobcat]

I did find a new tequila recently a lot cheaper than patron/julio cause I wanted it for cocktails called Olmeca Altos, actually tasted really good for £20 a bottle lol

[spare niche]

u can do better

[tropic geyser]

for sure, store is rough though

[tropic halo]

all this talk makes me want to make beef stew with some wine in it to make it more hearty

[burnt python]

i like espolon for cheap tequila

[spare niche]

believe in the RNG gods

[cyan echo]

I wouldn't have the mental fortitude to keep trying for anything better before crafting is finished

[echo parrot]

Low base stats, you will get better.

[tropic geyser]

i would sacrifice something at this point haha

[tropic halo]

destroy the child

[sterile lake]

same, i had solid man boobs and my walking speed decreased by 33 percent
now i started working out last year and i lost a bit of weight and added some muscles but I still have an absolute unit of a dad bod, without having children

[teal needle]

Get one with - peril on weakspot hit it's the single most important thing. Otherwise it's... well honestly I'd actively keep looking for something better, low base statline

[grave bobcat]

I wanted silver tequila for the cocktails so Esp doesn't work, ik which you mean tho

[tropic halo]

... shit i need to go jogging again soon

[fiery zenith]

good crit blessing but those base stats are low...

[tropic geyser]

ya base is like 320 and damage is low. the blast radius has been decent and charge rate

[spare niche]

might run las pistol