psyker-class

[keen pawn]

not bad?

[gray island]

F

[tacit fractal]

That’s a Trauma Staff

[leaden needle]

has trauma in its name so bad

[deft valley]

Majority of the time I forget to look at the purge meter lol

[keen pawn]

Trauma is good

[livid wraith]

the blessings are trash too

rip

[deep rivet]

it's in the center of your screen my man

[mellow crescent]

today you learn

[compact cargo]

And here we go with the assumptions.

Voidstrike is still the best horde clear if ur zealot decides to go knife or team lacks it.

Surge has the cc and so on, different builds, different melees.

If ur picking surge why would you still waste precious peril and leave urself on high peril to "go melee" when u can just vent, bb to get those 6 warp charges and surge that elite or special, in damnation there is barely any time where u only got a trash mob horde, so wasting 33% ranged damage res is simply a bad move unless ur running for emergency res with a deflector force sword

[leaden needle]

also has anyone elsed wondered wtf in salvo means

[keen pawn]

Probably the same people who said Sharpshooter is bad day 1

[bright cipher]

you can vent and do nothing for 3-4 seconds or you can go into melee, provide a different type of cc AND dmg all while getting any lost toughness back with quietitude

[deep rivet]

unless i'm spamming surge i'm never high peril when using it

so i have plenty of peril to block

[hot garnet]

i still think veteran was the class they made so fortnite/CoD kids could still be playing the game and think they're doing a good job

[bright cipher]

On damnation you should never be doing nothing

And manually quelling peril is doing nothing

[leaden needle]

my vet is called Xx-COD-PLAYER_xX

[deft valley]

If go pure focus sometimes mainly during hordes during defend obj's and the slug fights

[hot garnet]

🥹 proud of you

[compact cargo]

"Do nothing", there is barely any time ur not dealing with armor or specials on damnation. Those 6 warp charges are also extremely noticeable for peril reduction.

[deep rivet]

switching to a non-FS weapon will passively quell a LOT of high peril anyway and then you block like an ogryn

it's just BETTER

[bright cipher]

Plus axe and dueling sword got some reason have much fastet passive quell than force sword

[bright cipher]

6 warp charged

BRUG

[compact cargo]

If ur not spamming cc on anything special or an elite, ur not soing surge right

[bright cipher]

BRUH

This guy

[wet cloak]

When you're using the purgatus on a horde and watches the veteran charge into them with his power sword, INSTEAD of shooting that 8 ranged units that are currently firing at you.

[gray island]

this mans built dif

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/angela-merkel-windrad-angela-cdu-deutschland-gif-13944674

[deep rivet]

when i cc with surge i switch to my melee and smack them

[compact cargo]

Don't tell me u run 10% bb to bb that 1 trash mob

[bright cipher]

Playing a different game or something

[fallow meadow]

I am a happy psyker now.

[deep rivet]

unless am far away

[late orbit]

join strike team 13 for level 4+

[bright cipher]

80 peril Res is the sexiest thing you can show a psyker

[gray island]

brain blast trash mob and get 30% toughness back tho?

[bright cipher]

It's not a dps feat

It's a stack gain feat

[wet cloak]

That 10% works incredibly well with purgatus, plus ascendant blaze.

[bright cipher]

Every 15 seconds gain a stack and refresh the stack duration

[deep rivet]

no no, you're losing dps if you even think about toughness regen. that's for other classes to worry about

[bright cipher]

It makes it so you never have to worry about stacks on damnation

[leaden needle]

the 15second cooldown is per enemy

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-26450094

[leaden needle]

so it cna proc multiple times very fast

[bright cipher]

No way

[deep rivet]

stacking warp charges is a dps loss

[livid wraith]

false

[leaden needle]

a video i watched said it was

dont tell me youtube has lied

[wet cloak]

No it just has a 15 sec cooldown

[leaden needle]

impossible

[bright cipher]

Yeah why waste time manually stacking charges and trying to maintain 6 when you can have 4 with full uptime without even thinking about it

[deep rivet]

i've seen a lot of youtube videos of people misinterpreting what feats do, but it's understandable. fatshark just throws words at you and leave it to you to figure out

[wet cloak]

In beta we had to figure out what soulblaze even meant, there's no explanation for it!

[deep rivet]

that's what i mean

[hot garnet]

not the greatest ever but it has served me well for now. still farming for a better base but the god emperor has been hating me lately

[compact cargo]

So ur giving 6% damage loosing the bb breakpoints:
-3 for crushers (back to heresy lvls)
-2 on maulers

• 1 on ragers
• 2 on mutant
• 1 on pox busters

• 36% peril reduction that let's you chain cast lighting much more often over, not having to bb a rifleman occasionally every 15 seconds when u already got a 4% chance to get a warp charge with allies?

[fallow meadow]

That will be OP as fxxk if that is per enemy.

[livid wraith]

i watched the same one. I got excited when he said that. My disappointment was immeasurable, and my day ruined.

[leaden needle]

lets see paul allens feats

[deft valley]

Gn yall thanks for all the advice my dudes and dudettes

[slow raven]

per enemy would make surge the best horde clear of any class

[hot garnet]

surge would be so op if it was per enemy

or even just recon lasgun psykers

[compact cargo]

More skillfull, more peril res, better bb breakpoints to pop the f panic button, max ranged damage resistance

[deep rivet]

if surge had a cloud radius type stat that was like +1-2 more enemies chained that'd be cool

[bright cipher]

With a good team you shouldn't even have to use BB on damnation lol

[deep rivet]

just 5 for a horde is small but i get that it's more for ccing specials

[mellow crescent]

running no feats and starting weapons is more skillful

[sharp thistle]

Wait I thought it was per enemy

[olive ember]

yeah 6 warp charges only rly comes in use when you are using purge

[bright cipher]

I use it 2-3 times per raid for a loose sniper that I tagged before s vet could shoot it and it ran into cover

[compact cargo]

We are assuming your friends are not drunk

[hot garnet]

it aint

[olive ember]

the time you would spend BBing a random poxwalker to get stacks you could literally just quell

[bright cipher]

Of course?

[wet cloak]

If I have to use BB on heresy+, then it's because the 2 veterans on my team has failed.

[sharp thistle]

So every 15 sec you just have a small chance to bb someone?

[deep rivet]

warp flurry is just how many times you do secondary

[bright cipher]

I wouldn't play damnation with drunk people

[hot garnet]

yep

still good to keep stacks up

[livid wraith]

BB is sometimes used but its very niche. If you are regularly using BB you are trolling in damnation.

[slow raven]

nah surge takes like 10 hits just to kill a regular trash mob, if you had a 10% chance to proc BB per enemy you would wipe out the entire horde with 1-2 casts

[bright cipher]

Surge staff does like 20 dmg ticks per cast

[olive ember]

well "small" isn't that small when you realize its 10% per hit per enemy

[tacit fractal]

Except if y’all are drunk then it could be fun lmao

[bright cipher]

Nah I don't play video games inebriated

[olive ember]

so when you are cleaving through a horde or hitting multiple enemies multiple times with surge staff 10% chance is fairly often

[wet cloak]

The small chance becomes quite easy if you use something like a purgatus staff.

[compact cargo]

Should read, bb at 2 seconds is better dps than anyone in the team.

[bright cipher]

The enjoyment for me is trying hard and doing well and doing that with others as well

[olive ember]

if you running purge you should just run 6 charges

[vivid merlin]

you only proc one bb every 15s no matter how many targets you hit

[mellow crescent]

not even Deep Rock Galactic? :p

[olive ember]

you gain charges extremely easy on purge its the one staff you run 6 charges over kinetic flayer

[bright cipher]

BB is 300dps ability lmao

Flat dmg

On all difficulties

It's trash except for bombers and snipers

[wet cloak]

@olive ember Nah I'm so unlucky with the 4% talent I don't bother anymore

[tacit fractal]

Fair, is fun though when you’re with your mates just having a blast chilling, high or drunk

[gray island]

any enemy you have to bb more than once is a waste anyway. i can see it helping for ragers, but honestly you hit a rager with a decent surge blast then BB it after and its gone anyway

[compact cargo]

in 4 seconds, in 2 with 6 warp charges it's the best panic button around

[bright cipher]

As a surge psyker you're not in the raid to confirm kills anyways

You're there to keep team safe and lock down big lads

[olive ember]

I mean its 10% chance using ascendant blaze which makes warp stacks ez af to come by

[bright cipher]

And you still end up with 2500 kills at the end anyways

[sharp thistle]

I just started playing psyker, have to officially apologize for every time I popped blue heads as a veteran/zealot

[olive ember]

nah you use it on ogryn and gunner spam on heresy+

[gray island]

never apologize

[tacit fractal]

HAH

[livid wraith]

What is your psyker name so I know to back out @compact cargo

[compact cargo]

There's many points where cc is noy enough and pressing the f for a panic button then killing the special/elite threat in 10 seconds

[compact cargo]

BelovedEnjoyer

[gray island]

surge ogryn then put gaurds down. teammates shoot?

[sharp thistle]

Also wtf the gameplay is 10 times more sweaty

[olive ember]

I do it anyways on vet even as a psyker main, why you BB'ing this is to teach you a lesson

[olive ember]

surge isn't useful when you have 2 bulwarks and 3 crushers at once

legit better to just kinetic flayer BB the two bulwarks

[hot garnet]

you just stun lock all of them wdym its not useful

[tacit fractal]

I like the challenge and after playing Psyker so much other classes feel harder

[hot garnet]

your team can literally go drink a beer and take a shower while youre holding them

[livid wraith]

lmao thats legit a situation that surge psykers dream of being the most useful wtf

[olive ember]

???

[bitter orbit]

I've switched to axe and purgatus and I have actually been feeling useful lol

[olive ember]

idk what games you been playing but thats literally the one of two situations you should be using BB

the other one is gunner spam

[hot garnet]

surge isnt there for damage its there for control

[olive ember]

yeah I run surge staff I know

[hot garnet]

it gives your team the ability to deal the dps without worrying about taking damage

[livid wraith]

LMAO. bruh if you bring surge then a bulwark comes you literally go "LOOK MY JOB!!!"

[bright cipher]

Sir you literally stun all of them and exposr bulwarks from behind their shields with one surge

[hot tulip]

False af

Surge stunlock makes heresy+ a breeze

You shouldnt be waste surgeshock/peril on trash mobs, and you get bonus damage on traitor guardsmen and anyone wearing flak/carapace

[tacit fractal]

Assuming you have atleast one Veteran which is basically impossible to not get lol

[compact cargo]

Team overwhelmed/split by melee, either due to range or a bomber that u need to dive, cc there won't be as useful as just killing the ragers/specials on sight with the ff before going back to surge

Specially if ur vet has to go melee

[mellow crescent]

surge is there to keep the enemies from shooting you while you CHASE THEM DOWN AND MURDER THEM WITH AN ANTAX V

[bright cipher]

Tbh melee vet isn't the worst thing ever considering they have the power sword

Which solo cleaves hordes in a few seconds

[worthy wasp]

I legit Antax MkV everything with Psyker until Ogryns pop up then CC them. Sometimes specials too if team needs. Even t5 is ez mode

[olive ember]

yeah and you know when your vet goes melee? when theres 2 bulwarks and 3 crushers on his ass

along with a horde

and shooters

cuz heresy moment

[tacit fractal]

Sibling we play damnation

[compact cargo]

A melee vet means that ur most efficient elite and special killer is not on the watch
@olive ember the f is there to cc them.

[hot tulip]

I will be 100 percent honest though

I'd rather have zealot/ogryn than Psyker in Heresy+ if the Psyker doesn't have surgestaff

And that's sad my friends; when a weapon has more viability and identity than the class itself

[livid wraith]

cc bot still fun though.

[hot tulip]

Psyker needs some damn help

[compact cargo]

Th hammer>psyker

[hot tulip]

Oh yeah it is

[worthy wasp]

+10% damage to elites is amazing coherency bonus in Heresy+ tho

[mild lotus]

Damnation is just heresy but the ogryns actually came with a belly full

[compact cargo]

Elite clear that we supposedly have

[mellow crescent]

veteran? more like powersword shooty man lol

[compact cargo]

Damnation is just heresy endless horde with tankier enemies

And special limits gone

[bright cipher]

Honestly the jump from heresy to damnation is smaller than the jump from malice to heresy

[tacit fractal]

Yes

[loud violet]

Are you all playing with premade because i swear most pugs I got get overwhelmed by elites if I'm not taking them out

[compact cargo]

endless horde bug

[olive ember]

doesn't help that its bugged and heresy is always endless hordes

[compact cargo]

One hell of a drug

[hot tulip]

Lmao I didn't mention veteran because Vets are the top class rn

[olive ember]

so you're more closely jumping from malice to diet damnation

[bright cipher]

Wait heresy is bugged?

[livid wraith]

veteran is nowhere near as locked down as psyker is. You can run Shotgun/lasgun/bolter and a few different melees on damnation and still be a boon to your team. Psyker is trolling unless you run surge.

[tacit fractal]

Why do you think I sometimes run Purgatus lmao

[gray island]

heresy for pubs , damnation for teams

[hot garnet]

^

[bright cipher]

U cant pug damn anyways because it's empty lobbies except the rare few people trying to play solo to cheese penances lol

[tacit fractal]

I’ve managed to do damnation pubs

[flint spindle]

Cringe Psykers

[olive ember]

last I checked heresy is always endless horde unless a modifier specifically overwrites it like lesser horde or lights out or ventilation purge

[hot garnet]

i found the veteran player

[flint spindle]

lmao

[tacit fractal]

I assume you’re a veteran since you’re an axl who’s known for zoning out before getting sneezed upon

[sharp thistle]

It’s sad that you can’t even wait for more than one minute for the lobby to fill

[bright cipher]

Remember to turn on your ABS for damnation

[flint spindle]

damn you fucking got me down to a T

[bright cipher]

Always Be Slidin

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-girl-sliding-into-your-d-ms-like-sliding-into-d-ms-into-your-d-ms-like-roller-skate-gif-5454418

[bright cipher]

Wow ur right he is an axl player

[tacit fractal]

Kara PBs you :)

[bright cipher]

Disgusting

[olive ember]

Either way I still stand by the fact that you should be killing ogryns with BB

just saying

[bright cipher]

NBBB

Never Be Brain Burstin

[flint spindle]

Xrd Axl is best Strive Axl is cringe

[hot garnet]

the only time a surge psyker should switch to BB imo is when theres a monstrosity alone. as soon as extra enemy shows up its your job to hold them with the staff

[tacit fractal]

Legendary last words

[livid wraith]

brain burst is for poxbursters coming from a mile away after you already cleared the room, and upon entering a new area and sniping gunners. or maybe a bomber/sniper. if you stop CC'ing or horde clearing to bb mid fight you are trash.

[bright cipher]

Axe heavy spam

Chop chop chop

More DPS than bb

[hot garnet]

that too

[mellow crescent]

idk sometimes there's a sniper and the veteran fell asleep

[hot tulip]

Yeah I'm BBIng if the ogryn is alone too

And surging if the ogryn is with pals especially armored traitors

Made my runs much smoother as I don't alert the rest of his pals to run for cover while I lock them all down and ping

BB is such a shitty power ngl

[bright cipher]

Yeah like I said BB is only for snipers and bombers that vets can't tag

[cyan echo]

Just had a nice Heresy game as Surgaxe psyker, the survivability is just great

[olive ember]

my F ability gives me the CC i need so yeah I just press F and start BBing ogryns

[compact cargo]

Coz u want to stop the vet from seen, same reason you run accatran recon, torrent, to hog all ammo so vet can't do his job

[olive ember]

works fine for me

[hot tulip]

BB belongs on a weapon and Psyker should just get Surge as a 'Grenade' lmao

[compact cargo]

Pox busters in damnation take 2 bb, just run surge and stun em

[livid wraith]

malice sure is hard

[hot garnet]

id rather surge the ogryns than BB them. that way they're just locked while the vet/zealot goes to town on that ass

[tacit fractal]

No not really

[livid wraith]

hence why i said coming from a mile away

[gray island]

Chad psyker strats: dont use our abilitys, always surge staff, swing axe

[olive ember]

you assume I only play malice uhuh

[compact cargo]

Shame, best way to be useful as Psyker is to hamper the vet

[hot tulip]

This is ironically Heresy+ optimal play for Psyker

Kinetic Flayer is a must (lvl 25 talent) with surge staff

[compact cargo]

Can't be worse special kill if vet can't shoot

[tacit fractal]

I forgot what hamper means English is not my first or second language

[livid wraith]

if you play damnation, tell your teammates I said "sorry, also nice backpack"

[cyan echo]

To inhibit

[olive ember]

damn with how aggro you are I feel like you wouldnt be able to live if you ever met the guy who swears by lasgun psyker in damnation

[compact cargo]

Ye that guy is weird

[boreal wave]

So what's so great about the axe?

[compact cargo]

He runs well in damnation tho

[compact cargo]

Damage and push attack

[hot garnet]

gotta remember not everyone is right for example some people still say pineapple belongs on pizza and they are wrong. just gotta ignore them

[cyan echo]

The push attack with peril blocking is just...a delight

[compact cargo]

Second here I forgor a lot of meanings

[hot tulip]

Gunpsykers in Heresy+ is massive cringe and actual sandbagging

But not unheard of and possible. Just too much extra work for being decent imo. Masochists need only apply

[livid wraith]

I mean I would love brain blast to get some QoL on heresy+, but as it is now, you are gimping your team and forcing them to pick up your slack.

[gray island]

we've cracked the code siblings

[boreal wave]

Couldn't you get the same effect from dueling sword?

[compact cargo]

brain flayer

[compact cargo]

Lacks armor pen, but good dodging

[bright cipher]

Go 321133 it's better

[tacit fractal]

I don’t even understand my second not even a single bit

121312 is fun

[gray island]

you lost me at the first 3 ngl

[bright cipher]

It works with passive quell

[compact cargo]

No go full DoT, u can go make a pizza urself before DoT kills pox walkers

[gray island]

oooo

[bright cipher]

Guaranteed toughness gain you can fully control > rng chance to get toughness back

Something being hard set is always better than relying on rng

[olive ember]

yeah my bolter vet can kill 2 ogryns with on bolter mag in meat grinder, lets say im a bad vet and a good one can kill 3 vets. either way the time to kill 3 crushers and 2 bulwarks takes fucking forever and BB reduces that time

[hot garnet]

321233 is what ive been using works great

[compact cargo]

Toughness low? Press f, bb, 2 seconds for 30% toughness, best toughness gain

[olive ember]

and its not like I'm only BBing lmao i'm jsut saying you can just press F and everything around you gets knocked to the ground and you can just BB for free damage

[fiery bloom]

Is there anything special with the force sword I’m missing? I personally like the combat axe more but fluff wise feel like I should be using the force sword.

[gray island]

you face bulwark head on with it

[bright cipher]

Using quietitude gives u 25% toughness instantly on ult

[livid wraith]

you can kill the bulwark faster by stunning it then overheading with a mk V

[compact cargo]

combat axe>force sword unless ur running emergency res build

[bright cipher]

Without having to BB

[livid wraith]

if your team isn't shooting the bulwark cohesively then your team is dogwater.

[stark snow]

deflector blessing allows you to block bullets, the charged (special, not heavy) up attack is very good against armored elites and bosses

[compact cargo]

u can get theoretical 300% toughness with the ff+warp charge

[mellow crescent]

Why 3 on the lvl 30?
I run 1 but that's because I mostly use the ult as emergency quelling.

[olive ember]

random pugs tend be like that from sedition to heresy sadly

and I'm not even going to try damnation pug

thats just masochism

[tacit fractal]

I like the term peepee poopoo :)

[hot garnet]

or just switch to axe and get back to full almost instantly as you quell and get melee kills

[bright cipher]

Because the other expend warp charges

[hot tulip]

Force sword gets real good if you have deflect as a perk

Also yes passive quell counts as quell so Quietude always will give you toughness

But you can also run Toughness on warp kill with surge if you have Kinetic Flayer. All depends on RNG baby

[compact cargo]

Precious warp charges

WASTED on an f

[olive ember]

to add on to what someone else says assuming you are running peril resist the expending warp charges screws your peril reduction

[compact cargo]

soulblaze sucks even if it's exponential

[olive ember]

and again F is a good burst window for BB

and you should basically only use BB after you F

[livid wraith]

as long as I ping the bulwark when stunning it I don't have any issues most of the time. but yeah PUGS can be trash sometimes.

[hot tulip]

I love seeing Psykers burn F on trash mobs

Like what the actual fuck are you doing

[compact cargo]

Lowering the veteran fps

Hopefully

[hot tulip]

Just MELEE THEM

[mellow crescent]

So why not just be a chad and not run anything in lvl 30?

[hot tulip]

Lmao

[olive ember]

purge staff

[hot tulip]

HERETICS

[hot garnet]

its not like it has a big cooldown anyway tbf

[olive ember]

if they are running ascendant blaze I'm assuming they are running purge staff otherwise no reason

[compact cargo]

Purge+soulblaze f can tank ur fps by 10

[livid wraith]

Voidstaff has crashed the game

[stark snow]

eh, I f packs of ranged all the time when I'm pushing on them to stop them from shooting

also highlights them all for my team

[thin dome]

whats the goal after getting level 30 and all gold weapons?

[olive ember]

Well I say that but I also see gun psykers running ascendant blaze like

[livid wraith]

red tiger > gold

[gray island]

thats how i was able to get malleus monstronum

[stark snow]

to get the perfectly rolled gold weapons

[compact cargo]

min maxing and penances u haven't done

[lethal plover]

Clear damnation endless. On the desert maps

[hot tulip]

Yeah and then you know what happens IMMEDIATELY after you use it? Ragers, dogs and trapper comes outa nowhere esp with Hi intensity modifer

Swear to God everytime I just say F it and spend F on trash mobs I get special swarmed when I need it lol

[hot garnet]

and thats when you use the surge staff to lock them all 😉

[olive ember]

min max as in sit in front of shop and pray

[stark snow]

the ai director knows you just busted it

[fiery bloom]

Is the max stat of weapons 80%?

[compact cargo]

I just got it by ledging a plague ogryn on that torrent ledge that breaks pathing

[olive ember]

just run surge staff

kekw

[compact cargo]

I prefer to ro for emp gifts

[bright cipher]

Imagine not having 104% total peril res for the entire raid

[hot tulip]

Pro way is to surge until 100

Develop shaky hands

F

Repeat lmao

[boreal wave]

With due respect, a surge staff shuts that all down with minimal effort.

[mellow crescent]

After or before dealing 90% damage with BB?

[loud violet]

I do this because im riding the lightning with 100% peril on purgatus staff

[livid wraith]

If there is a mixed horde, sometimes i might use F to knock trash back and leave the elites closer so I can stunlock the elites instead of the trash.

[hot tulip]

No I know, I could just be way more efficient with peril if I had not wasted F on mobs I could just melee

Or you know

Ogryn or vet can mow down

[gray island]

[loud violet]

Good

[olive ember]

pray for a good trait when you upgrade it to blue, you want decimator and lethal momentum or wte its called

[snow herald]

if you f while you're in the exploding animation does it save you?

[boreal wave]

Yeah well when you play with friends who constantly leave you behind, some times you gotta.

[hot tulip]

Yes

This is why DONT WASTE F ON TRASH MOBS lmao

[snow herald]

damn can't believe I never thought to try that

[cyan echo]

Careful with Surge, you might go boom before the animation plays

[hot garnet]

just keep an eye on your peril and you wont explode smh

[olive ember]

I mean I just use F whenever I feel like I want to

[cyan echo]

if you go 1 on the lvl 30 feat, you can F all the time

[olive ember]

just make sure if your F is on cooldown you save enough peril to chain lightning CC I'd say atleast twice

[loud violet]

Surge staff is the staff most prone to killing you

[gray island]

Darn

[snow herald]

it's weird that you can start a BB from 97% and be fine, but staffs seem to just kill you any time you hit 100 before firing.

[boreal wave]

Yeah that's what I do. Use F as an ejection cord, and with the first feat at 30 it's always up when I need it

[ornate hamlet]

Specifically seems to always be the surge staff doing it tbh

[olive ember]

for surge staff atleast if you want to be safe don't use it once you are >= 80% peril

[ornate hamlet]

Rarely ever see anyone with the other staves Warping themselves

[hot tulip]

Yup, isn't that some funny shit? not sure if intentional tbh. Seems like a bug

[cyan echo]

i think its because each "tick" of the staff is counted as initiating the ability or something

you can also use the special on FS while at 97% peril no problem

[ornate hamlet]

Isnt that big of a deal unless youre bad at managing perils of the warp lmao

[olive ember]

well another thing is that the other staves have their peril front loaded iirc

[compact cargo]

Watch out for surge staff skipping the explode animation too, prevents f activation

[olive ember]

so its alot harder to explode because its alot easier to judge

[loud violet]

Meanwhile purgatus can be held at 100%

[dusky lantern]

does the block + push on force sword push more than the dueling blade?

[hot tulip]

Assuming you aren't running the peril resistance trait, never cast surge if your peril is at 80 or higher or you will Always begin to combust

79 you are fine

[ornate hamlet]

Unless youre talking about groups of 5-6 mobs specifically its really good at dealing with actual hordes if your other teammates are slow to deal with it

[olive ember]

The moment I hit 100 on surge I F out of safety tbh

[hot tulip]

Remember the magic number 80 for surge

[bright cipher]

I've actually blown myself up before on purpose to save a run

Where we got overran by elites and horde

[livid wraith]

weird, 80 is a good safe rule, but IIRC I can do 84-86 without the res perk.

[olive ember]

before or after they nerfed explosion damage

[ornate hamlet]

Fair enough, havent used surge ever since I first got it because of the "Warp yourself NOW!" issue

[bright cipher]

Current patch

[gray island]

thats why i run 3 wounds. I am a martyr and its almost a free heal

[olive ember]

so after interesting interesting

[mellow crescent]

@boreal wave

[hot tulip]

I'm sure there's some weapon efficency there that you got

[olive ember]

I mean yeah but 84 and 80 isn't that big of a difference and my monkey brain spots the difference between 79 and 80 better than 83 and 84

[boreal wave]

Luna's problem is that she forgot to push F.

[loud violet]

Depends on weapon warp resistance and warp stacks

[mellow crescent]

daemonhost moment

[olive ember]

80 is a safety rules tbh, and its not that hard to quell for a few seconds to bring it back down, especially with how long the stun lasts on surge

its like the yellow line at train stations, will you die if you walk on the yellow line no but for the most part you want to stand behind it as a precaution

[livid wraith]

its more like, can i squeeze in a half second after i see it hit 8. It's just getting used to whatever staff you have. I don't have to freak out as soon as I see it hit 8

[hot tulip]

U can cast at 79

Quell for like 1 second if your staff has a thicc quell stat

Cast again

Repeat

And that's even if you aren't running peril resistance per warp stack

[olive ember]

which you should

[hot tulip]

Yessirrr

[olive ember]

I dont think theres ever a reason not to run peril resist

[compact cargo]

Cast surge at 83%,live in danger

[cyan echo]

Nice

[compact cargo]

Just remember to cast on downtick

[hot tulip]

Ok this is kinda hot

[compact cargo]

[hot tulip]

The fact that you got terrifying and warp nexus is Chad

[olive ember]

is warp nexus good?

[livid wraith]

does this just melt bulwarks?

[olive ember]

still running warp flurry on my staff

[gray island]

I can prock the blazing spirits with my surge staff if I swap at the right time too

[olive ember]

though someone mentioned the charge speed isn't particularly noticeable

[gray island]

makes em dance really good

[livid wraith]

Idk i see everyone say don't charge surge, but if you aren't getting full swarmed then that initial charge for a juicer hit is better imo.

but subsequent hits should be low charge

[olive ember]

animation cancel does mean you can dps with surge iirc

also why does warp flurry give +-

[hot tulip]

Gives you +25% crit chance on max peril

And I have to do more testing but this still applies even if weapon away (someone help me confirm this)

So if this man doesn't have F ready and is swarmed and cannot quell, he will be killing anything with constant crits while he spam dodges away

[olive ember]

I believe someone mentioned earlier that theres a bug that all traits of stowed away weapons still persist

[mellow crescent]

because +8% charge rate means you have to charge longer

[hot tulip]

ITS A BUG?!? I cri

[olive ember]

theres a zealot build where you run an autogun with a trait that gives (+crit per empty round) or wte

[vivid merlin]

+charge rate means you charge faster, you are thinking of cast duration where higher means longer

[olive ember]

and you just empty out your auto gun and only use melee

[vivid merlin]

it's just a typo

[hot tulip]

Holy shiiet the synergy with ur staff

[olive ember]

yeah but why is it +- warp flurry

[gray island]

if only it was an axe 😦

[vivid merlin]

don't ask me it's immeasurably complex

[olive ember]

+-8% charge like why tf is it +-

[hot tulip]

Actually wait the more I think about it the more I think that warp nexus isn't good

[olive ember]

heres hoping

[hot tulip]

Esp if ur staff has high quell speed

[olive ember]

I'd assume you want "warp flurry" and "focused channeling" ideally

so a random pox walker from behind or wte won't accidentally stun you mid charge or mid cast

[livid wraith]

focused channeling is dead perk imo.

[hot tulip]

Ya I also think focused channeling no bueno also

[olive ember]

comfort more than anything else, I dont think the perks on the surge staff are that good

actually how useful is terrifying barrage

[mellow crescent]

which one is that?

mr. homelander

[livid wraith]

cant get stunned while charging

[boreal wave]

Terrifying barrage seems silly to me

[olive ember]

can't be interuppted while charging/casting

[bright cipher]

mandatory on purge, situational on surge

[gray island]

this an accurate list ?

seems pretty bare

[olive ember]

yeah idk i think focused channeling is just the best for comfort

cuz it feels like shit when you are 80% through your charge and something hits you from behind

[livid wraith]

Full charge surge is for a fight opener. mid fight you should barely be channeling

[boreal wave]

I also happen to charge surge. I kill armored specials pretty often with it.

[cyan echo]

its situational imo

[olive ember]

also wow animation cancel surge actually does decent damage

[boreal wave]

How do you animation cancel surge

[livid wraith]

why staff alt-fire/melee deal 40-90 damage. I cri evritiem

[olive ember]

swap weapons

or sprint

so full charge swap weapons full charge swap weapons basically

[stark snow]

staff melee should bypass the kinetic flayer cd

[olive ember]

for damage not for stun

[mellow crescent]

I uh
cant melee with staff
I press special attack button and nothing happens

[hot garnet]

sprint or change weapon

[olive ember]

so its only useful situationally, since the animation cancel means you hit less targets and stun for shorter duration

[sterile lake]

Beating higher difficulties consistently
Getting low tier weapons with good stats, then upgrade them to gold to get desired perks and blessings
Unlock cosmetics through penances and buying
Then wait for more content added to try out

[cyan echo]

this is the one I'm using

[olive ember]

Alternatively level up a different class

I have 3 classes to 30 and zealot is my last one at 23

[bright cipher]

speedrunning damnation with a team

[olive ember]

hah you have a team?

[cyan echo]

solo-carrying damnation pugs is what he meant

[olive ember]

well I do but they... they only run malice depression

[river sand]

not 100% i've got a voidstrike staff with 2 shots on crit, thats not listed there

[cyan echo]

4-man psyker runs in Damnation, each one brings a different type of staff

[gray island]

this is the surge

heres voidstrike

[river sand]

yeah just wanted to say the list is maybe not accurate

cause the 2 shot is not listed

[olive ember]

its accurate enough

I don't think I've seen any other traits on surge staffs in game atleast

and I've been looking alot cuz haha funny lvl 30 min maxing time

[river sand]

yeah i was hoping so much for a surge with blazing spirit and crit on peril

[gray island]

if your melee has blazing spirits you can animation cancel to proc it

[river sand]

yeah i know but thats shitty

[bright cipher]

why tf does only void get quell peril

[livid wraith]

Level 30, where greens and whites bring more excitement than goldy bois.

[bright cipher]

gold item? its probably bricked already

grey/green? pog base

slam it

[olive ember]

even if surge had the trait it would be useless

you don't hit weakspots iirc on surge

[bright cipher]

yeah true

[livid wraith]

they could make an equivalent with crit tho

[bright cipher]

since its not a point and click ability

but auto target

[livid wraith]

surge do be crittin

[river sand]

if the stats werent that shitty i would upgrade and had fun. its the only i've ever seen with this perk

[gray island]

all the surge blessings are trash honestly

[bright cipher]

not trash

just mediocre

sure they improve ur staff

but nothing amazing

[river sand]

surge with 5% crit and crit on high peril crits a lot. and blazing is not on weakspot crit

[livid wraith]

i wish i could get a non-trash void staff to see if the toughness quell feat works well with that blessing on damnation.

[olive ember]

how useful is blazing even though

[river sand]

if blazing on surge would be possible you could easily apply 4-5 stacks per cast. that would make it at least mediocre against hordes

[olive ember]

if you are running surge

[gray island]

idk man. focus, run n gun, and flurry all seem pretty useless

[olive ember]

like does the dot even do anything

last I checked the dots by themselves kinda sucked

[sterile lake]

Means good not bad

[river sand]

if you run the lvl 30 talent and have full stacks your ult deletes hordes pretty good

soublaze is noticable at 4+ stacks

[bright cipher]

but u lose stacks

[river sand]

for a second

[livid wraith]

i remember testing this and i don't remember it deleting. I remember it eventually killing them, with full stacks, and useless with low stacks.

[robust meteor]

i'm such a good psyker, i can warp around when running

[river sand]

you get the 10% chance to get em back. if you use it in a really big horde you set like 100 enemies on fire and get stacks back instantly

[gray island]

yeah communcion is really good at building your stacks back up from my experience

[bright cipher]

nothing perssonel commissar

[olive ember]

its... okay

[livid wraith]

that is the reason to take it iirc

[midnight violet]

another hour with not a single force weapon in the shop. thesr 4 types of staffs...5 weapon types... none in the shop. again. im going to just quit. fucking idiots designed this shit

[olive ember]

but yeah you only really run ascendant blaze with purge staff to get stacks back

[gray island]

use ur weekly cred and gacha roll for em

[olive ember]

maybe in conjuction of pressing F and then immediately using purge staff but I'd also say at that point its mostly the purge staff doing work

also wow its 4 AM

I should go sleep

[bright cipher]

hell yeah fuck buying 2,5k price items when u can GAMBA

[livid wraith]

If only purg wasn't just a trash flamer. It's fun and all. But after having played with zealot, that 20m range is too good. Surge is 20m too. 14m on purg means you struggle to take care of certain threats.

[river sand]

purg is imo only playable with a deflector force sword

[sterile sable]

what is rending?

[signal atlas]

There is always BB even if it does not one shot and purg stacks soulblaze

[midnight violet]

my shop

no joke

[olive ember]

anti armor

[sterile sable]

and what secondaries to look for on surge?

[bright cipher]

check the dueling swords

[sterile sable]

focus and terrify?

[bright cipher]

i buy out all combat axes, dueling swords, staves, force swords and curios

[robust meteor]

so does anyone else feel like force sword just feels bad compared to something like dueling sword?

[olive ember]

force sword with deflector is goat

[shell ferry]

Goal

[robust meteor]

yea, i got the god roll earlier on the force sword

[shell ferry]

Unless your sword literally is a goat

[olive ember]

heres hoping I can swap out the damn +1 stamina on my force sword eventually

[livid wraith]

focus is a waste but can be good if you lack awareness, ironically. You want the terrify and either charge or crit

[olive ember]

for literally anything else

[robust meteor]

after using, switching from dueling sword....i played a ton of games with ds and hardly EVER took damage

[midnight violet]

sent

[robust meteor]

force sword, i'm taking alot more damage

and my movement is awkward

[gray island]

that mk5 looks okay, defence is kinda rough tho

[olive ember]

Its rly player vs player, I'm used to force sword (I've been using it since the closed beta atleast, even without peril blocking) and I swear I last longer than zealots in horde situations sometimes

[bright cipher]

both kinda mid sadly

[midnight violet]

exactly

[olive ember]

fml ofc I get god tier axe on my psyker and not zealot

[robust meteor]

i saw its strength with pulling off a crazy revive from last man standing with the force sword but

other than that one moment, it just felt meh

[midnight violet]

i want something to upgrade. and tbh i dont wanna deuling sword.

[livid wraith]

i swear they nerfed req shop to make melk more likeable. fucking melk.

[robust meteor]

i actually recorded that clutch. i'll post the vid

[potent lotus]

I see a lot of zealots just kinda spamming attacks without really using the push on their melees and that tends to get you to die

[cyan echo]

i do like that there's variation on weapon usage among us siblings

[potent lotus]

helps that force sword has a good push

[cyan echo]

Some swear by the force sword, others love the dueling sword, axebros, etc etc

[bright cipher]

sir thats a psyker weapon

near godroll

[river sand]

force sword is blocking ranged. making room with push for you staff. and kill armored elites

[gray island]

what are we looking for blessing wise on antax?

[bright cipher]

the one that ignores enemy mass

[olive ember]

decimator and lethal momentum

[bright cipher]

lethal momentum yea

so u can cleave like a mfer

[midnight violet]

i got 115 hours and i havent seen deflector on a force sword. COS THEY DONT SHOW UP IN MY HOURLY SHOP. wtf is this shit...come on.

[thick surge]

Brutal momentum*

[olive ember]

sry yeah

these two traits, but on one axe

and ideally not with shit stats, these are my lvl 20 zealots axes

why couldn't I get this damn axe on my zealot

[thick surge]

Limbsplitter is good too since all you do with the axe is pushstab

[olive ember]

why my psyker ;-;

on zealot you do actually lmb so limbsplitter is actual trash on zealot

on psyker its mid compared to decimator

[livid wraith]

Psykers get worse shop items. Lore accurate.

[olive ember]

also

what the fuck is headtaker

and why does it just seem like a worse decimator

[brittle mist]

This worth getting?

[river sand]

nah

crit on prug is useless

[olive ember]

I don't run purge admittedly but the stat spread does seem pretty good

[river sand]

maybe for the stats but i guess when the rest of crafting is there, there will be better weapons

[bright cipher]

no

id never pay near 3k for a purg staff

unless its a 400 roll lol

[brittle mist]

Why is crit useless on purg? can soulflame not crit?

[potent lotus]

you could always change that when crafting comes out tbf

[river sand]

as far is i know, nope

[fallow meadow]

The base damage is just too small.

[brittle mist]

ahh makes sense

[livid wraith]

Burn weapons are all about how fast and how many burn stacks you can apply. crit is wasted. you CAN crit, but its like doing 60dmg for one tick vs 48, vs. the burn damage stacks chunking for multiple hundreds once stacked.

[midnight violet]

i honestly am convinced that the managers of this games systems and designs activaley wanted to hate on the players. I really think someone thought this would all be funny.

[olive ember]

the 79% burn is enticing and yeah the stat spread is rly good

[brittle mist]

I havent cared for Purg so far but figured I would check since this is the first staff I've seen in the limited shop lmao

[olive ember]

if you run purge alot and don't think you will get any better stat spread anytime soon I'd buy it tbh

[brittle mist]

Nah unless it was a unanimous "GET IT" im good lol

Ill stick to surge or void

[livid wraith]

They didn't want everyone to be max gear in a week. Makes sense. RNGesus can be a cruel bitch though i feel ya if you don't have grind time.

[gray island]

def a solid staff, the crit buffs are meh but its stacked on stats. only way to make it better is getting terrifying barrage blessing instead of Nexus

[bright cipher]

purg users are hipsters

[brittle mist]

ty for the feedback, yall have a good night

[olive ember]

damn I am actually salty that I got a good antax on my psyker instead of my zealot

[gray island]

just use it on the psyker and delete the zealot

[midnight violet]

grind time? log in every hour? no force weapion? what grind?

[olive ember]

a 378 like thats literally only 2 points off from max of 380 right

[olive ember]

I run FS on psyker

[bright cipher]

ANTAX IS A PSYKER WEAPON

[gray island]

deflect FS Dodging FS

[olive ember]

spam malice missions and pray for emperors gift is what he means

aka more rng

[bright cipher]

max is 400

[olive ember]

I heard somewhere that everyone plateaus at 380 and no one has gotten past ~380

[thick surge]

Current max is 380 base

[olive ember]

mean you can dodge with deflector as well? XD

[bright cipher]

80x5 is 400

ive seen a 391

[gray island]

if dodging then you dont need to block

[bright cipher]

theyre possible just very very rare

[livid wraith]

if rngesus is fucking you that hard that you check multiple times a day and still cant get it, just wait for crafting system then lmao.

[olive ember]

dodge the 4 gunners staring at me?

[gray island]

slide behind cover

[thick surge]

The 391 you saw was a bug. If you calculated its actual stats it was in reality a 376

[olive ember]

also basically gives invulnerable revive so thats an added perk

[midnight violet]

oh right, yes, i have many purples autoguns and a couple great lasguns. love to give them to me zealot or vet. but yeah. going for a force wep build? naaahhhh have some more guns

[gray island]

the revive is nice you got me there

[potent lotus]

rngesus didn't give me a force sword in like 12 levels before, so I swapped to the dueling sword because my 150 power force sword wasn't the best

[dusky lantern]

how do you guys get 370+ base rolls

is it just rng?

[potent lotus]

yea

[gray island]

gotta look at the greens adn whites king

[olive ember]

also I dunno how you play where you always have cover a slide away, especially given how fast and how accurately gunners shoot

[livid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

[olive ember]

deflector just frees up alot, it also means I can be discount shield ogryn and people can hide behind me if they rly need to

[potent lotus]

buy whites and upgrade them because the rarer ones tend to have way lower base stats instead

[bright cipher]

the way gunnery fire works is you cant be hit if youre sliding

[gray island]

[bright cipher]

its like dark souls roll iframes

[dusky lantern]

holy fk 380

[olive ember]

feels jank as shit for me atleast, I slide and dodge two bursts, and then 3 more bursts follow up and I get shot to shit anyways

[midnight violet]

dont play game, cos not finished. when finished...right...good talk.

[olive ember]

not necessarily though which is weird

like I got a green with 378 right now

[bright cipher]

its literally ds iframes, meaning u dont have them for the entire slide but for a duration of it

[potent lotus]

at greens it's not the worst, but purples tend to kinda suck compared to upgrading

least in my rng lol

[livid wraith]

#general-chat is for dev hate. This channel is reserved for psykers calling each other trash and looking at sweet gear.

[bright cipher]

im king psyker of cock mountain

obey me

[olive ember]

only played elden ring, used mage in that game too, can't relate

for extra meme I also ran bloodhound step in my offhand as mage so

[potent lotus]

that's on you for playing a mage focused on anything but carian slicer and DA HAMMER

[floral palm]

I saw this staff and just had to get it for the humor of "babys little cloud projector"

[midnight violet]

good point...maybe its looking at sweet gewar and not even seeing any of those weps show up thats making me bitter. caaaalllmmmmm, rrreessssttttt

[potent lotus]

in my int focus game I used Carian Slicer all the way to the final boss

[olive ember]

I think I used meteorite of astel

[potent lotus]

used it in pvp to great effect too

[olive ember]

its fucking stupid but the carian regal sceptor special catches so many people off guard and does surprisingly good damage

[bright cipher]

honestly if you just tackle it like an mmo grind its much less taxing mentally

[paper trail]

I just shot balls of moon at everything

[midnight violet]

looking at the shop rises my peril and i havent bought anything good in so long that it aint coming down yet

[olive ember]

anyone wanna grind anima weapons with me?

[potent lotus]

so does slicer, people don't expect it to be fast as shit while also dealing 25% of their hp with a hit

[bright cipher]

damnation raids are essentially a mythic+ dungeon clear anyways

[potent lotus]

it'd prolly deal less but people like to underlevel vigor and die fast

[livid wraith]

yall should just take this elden ring convo to the veteran channel to piss them off

[olive ember]

think about it like this with 4 characters, you get to check the shop 4 times each hour instead of only once

thats 4x the things to do!

[sterile lake]

One question, is there a way to Screenshot only the weapon sheet, or do you all cut the picture by hand later

[floral palm]

Oh Im new to this game and was really confused on what was being talked about, makes sense its about an entirely different game

[midnight violet]

i dont think you realise how long its been since i hit 30 and been checking the shop...lol...somebody decided im not allowed good things.

i was in beta

[olive ember]

I just ctrl alt printscreen kek

[gray island]

i use windows snipping tool

[tacit fractal]

LightShot exists

[floral palm]

Stan lightshot

[tacit fractal]

Tabs you out if you are on Fullscreen though

[paper trail]

windows key + shift + S

Pro life hack

[midnight violet]

5 more minutes...maybe this time therse be a force wep of some kind

[tacit fractal]

Lightshot just overhauls printSC

[midnight violet]

ive been saying that for days

[lethal plover]

can anyone check if deflector for force sword may sometimes fail to block reaper's gunfire? even though peril is low and stamina is there?

[olive ember]

Wats best ogryn ranged weapon btw rly liked the stubber but i realized its a fucking meme above malice

[livid wraith]

this is the mindset that draws you to the dark side anakin

[gray island]

you could play a different class then check back on shop rolls ?

[potent lotus]

windows has a default screenshot thing, sharex is good if you want a better alternative

[lethal plover]

wrong reply maybe?

[tacit fractal]

Ask the Ogryns not us sibling

[gray island]

yeah srry m8

[lethal plover]

oh, does force sword's deflector work in 360 degree like block, or just 180 degree?

[olive ember]

aw but asking in psyker chat works most of the time

even if it has nothing to do with psyker

[midnight violet]

that is the nature of the warp. moar powerrrrr

[olive ember]

like a few hours ago peopel were talking about air fryers

[tacit fractal]

Fair, but they’re more experts in brute force

[potent lotus]

when we discussing Sienna and sister of thorns builds instead, they're psykers too

[tacit fractal]

We also sometimes talk about jobs, Guilty Gear, money income, the game’s state etc :)

[lethal plover]

does anyone know?

[olive ember]

so how do you guys feel about the current state of the economy

[robust elbow]

so i'm wondering if I should use a force sword or reg melee wpn, saw that if you use a reg wpn you can just switch to it when you need to quell and it auto dumps alot of peril

[livid wraith]

Me checking for psyker upgrade :

1. New axe? no.
   2.New staff? no.
   3.any neat curios? maybe.
2. Still good stunbot.

[midnight violet]

i dont have woek tommorow..im staying up all night till i get a wep out of the shop come on babbbbyyyy\

[potent lotus]

I was advised by my lawyer to not say we should eat the rich

[midnight violet]

2v minuites

[tacit fractal]

”We’re rich! Mushroom!”

[stark snow]

they probably taste awful

[livid wraith]

Need gold sink. Let us bribe melk. Economy in shambles.

[tacit fractal]

Metal-y probably

I love that us siblings are now talking about cannibalism ;)

[potent lotus]

probably depends on what part you eat and whether they lead a healthy lifestyle

[olive ember]

hey look they talking about psykers in ogryn chat

[livid wraith]

I've heard that humans taste like pork. Sign me up.

[midnight violet]

i have a friggin amazing axe in my daily legendary, that id love to give to my zealot, but nope cant do that.

[tacit fractal]

I’ve heard chicken

[midnight violet]

not buying it, cos tommorow might be a good force sword

[livid wraith]

Something tasting like chicken is like saying it tastes like nothing, which must mean you are eating pleb humans.

[olive ember]

keep on coping it'll give you a gold autogun instead

[potent lotus]

you mean las pistol

[midnight violet]

youre not wrong. im cursed

it was gold autopgun yesterday XD

[pine topaz]

fa;lsdkjf;lawendf.... gold surge staff. Burn 23%

[potent lotus]

and back to the important discussion, a lot of how meat taste depends on whether you smoke it, marinate or spice it up, so I think if we could get our hands on a healthy billionaire we could chop them up and cook them differently depending on the taste and have a good feast siblings

[pine topaz]

retarded roll

[midnight violet]

omg.......not a ingle force weapon. not a sword. no staffs. AGAIN. what is going on here?

[livid wraith]

Fat content is probably more important. 'Murica.

[tacit fractal]

I love that Ogryns and Psykers have a positive relation between one another meanwhile Vets and Zealots are in constant conflict with everyone

[sterile lake]

I like the grenade gauntlet
a lot

[lethal plover]

anyone knows how deflector works?

[ornate hamlet]

Not true

[potent lotus]

vets like ogryns if you mean in game characters

[tacit fractal]

Not me sorry

[ornate hamlet]

Cadian vets love their big'uns

[stark snow]

I don't think its 360

[gray island]

psyker staffs go through ogren so no need to worry about getting shot in the back

[potent lotus]

if you mean us as players then we like ogryns cause all our staff shit just doesn't deal friendly fire lol

[olive ember]

you hold block, they shoot you, you block bullet, you lose stam/gain peril depending on whether you take peril blocking or not (you should)
and yeah its not 360

[lethal plover]

thanks this is what I rather fear

[stark snow]

would have to go test but I'm almost positive I've been hit in the back while blocking

[lethal plover]

I am asking about the angle of coverage

[olive ember]

yeah no its not 360

[sterile lake]

I usually use snipping tool but I don't get it to work in game, I will try the Windows shift s, I remember trying it and it not working

[olive ember]

its directional, similar to ogryn shield

[boreal wave]

There's at least one ogryn personality that doesn't get along with anyone, including psykers

[lethal plover]

should be more careful then

[potent lotus]

sharex works, I use it

least on borderless

[tacit fractal]

I meant the players not something like the Bully god emperor no

[boreal wave]

Oh okay

[midnight violet]

i am mistaken. thers a green truama staff. fuck my life.

[livid wraith]

Super secret FBI and CIA imaging software called paint.

[lethal plover]

anyway, another day in psyker carry

[potent lotus]

then yea, it's just cause we don't deal friendly fire with our psyker shit so they can bodyblock without being worried that we're shooting 20 bolter rounds in their back lol

[gray island]

i just hit f then pick people up

no blessing needed

[tacit fractal]

Ye :)

[lethal plover]

did you notice what my ult looks like there? I just saved someone else

[potent lotus]

dunno why zealots would be angry unless they're playing them as a ranged focus class

[gray island]

u win this time sibling

[floral palm]

This any good?

[tacit fractal]

I’m so mad I can’t figure out how to make my game smooth as yours

[potent lotus]

wonder if we'll ever get any subclass that has two melees instead of a ranged weapon

[olive ember]

with that damage

probably not

[gray island]

it says its a high damage gun, then drops a 30% damage modifier on it feelsbad

[tacit fractal]

Just go for Recon lasgun

[floral palm]

Sadge

[potent lotus]

it's the gun's characteristic as a whole, not the particular roll's

[livid wraith]

I mean its 31% and still 246. More damage than most other trash guns in this game lol.

[gray island]

i know, but the irony is still there

[lethal plover]

1080p resolution maybe if you have done all other steps?

[floral palm]

the one in my store i also cant tell if its good or not

[midnight violet]

if you played zealot with teamamtes who absolutely will not supress or kill troublesome ranged, youd undesrtand why zealots are angry all the time. ( have zealot, switched back to psyker, team mates are blind)

[gray island]

now were talkin

[olive ember]

its not a MK Vld so therefore automatically trash

kek

[sterile lake]

I don't but if I am not mistaken a recent emperor gifted that I now use has it
Sadly low stats because low level but I might try it out later today

[tacit fractal]

That is good

Not a heavy one sadly but still good

[olive ember]

in all seriousness though I think mk VIIa is the worse version of the recon lasguns right

[potent lotus]

not played a zealot so fair enough, friend does and I'm usually the one taking care of snipers and such

[sterile lake]

Ok thanks I noted that

[livid wraith]

this is why you have 2 dashes comrade. Part of zealots role is to force ranged pods into melee.

[floral palm]

Thank you!

[dawn orchid]

What version is the heavy one?

[potent lotus]

in my experience I'll run up to a ranged, stand in front of them and they'll still shoot like 10 times before they remember they have a melee weapon

[midnight violet]

in higher difficulties thats not as easy as it sounds.

it works on paper but it doesnt

[tacit fractal]

Can’t recall the mk number

[olive ember]

Mk VIIa is the heavy one and its the worst one because of it

[potent lotus]

doesn't help that 10 ranged grunts kill me faster than 100 melee ones

[livid wraith]

true. you can't yolo like that in damnation, but there are times where you have to

[olive ember]

Mk II is the standard one

Mk VId is the bullet hose and the best one

[floral palm]

Is the Agripinaa Mk1 any good

[olive ember]

the what now?

[olive ember]

I'm sorry when was this

[olive ember]

right now?

holy shit

[floral palm]

i randimly saw it in my inventory

[olive ember]

I don't use auto guns

[robust meteor]

so

[olive ember]

so couldn't tell

[robust meteor]

for those saying

[jovial wolf]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3634998185434845118?l

[robust meteor]

psyker lacks survivability

[worthy wasp]

Lol

[robust meteor]

i can't uplade. too big hang on

[tacit fractal]

I despise infantry autoguns so you’re not getting a positive opinion from me

[floral palm]

people are saying that? Im usually the last one alive in the team

[tacit fractal]

No

DAMN

[dawn orchid]

I'd say psyker suffers from having feats that are overdesigned to the point of uselessness

[tacit fractal]

Huh?

No

[dawn orchid]

No you

[potent lotus]

wait that was a thing

yea ok that explains a lot

[potent lotus]

[floral palm]

148MB

😂

[robust meteor]

idk i hate editing videos so i just used some free thing

halp

[rapid cliff]

Just use Nvidia geforce muahaha

[robust meteor]

tech support

[bright cipher]

surge chads we eating good tonight

[jovial wolf]

was wondering why I was blowing up so frequently after I got the surge staff

[lethal plover]

do you know ffmpeg or handbrake

[robust meteor]

no but im sure its better than what i used

[worthy wasp]

-Fixed an issue that caused the Surge Forcestaff to kill players if pushed above 80% peril.
-Fixed an issue where Forcestaff AOE wasn't working on some enemy units.
-Fixed an issue where Psyker's "Psykinetic's Aura" would not work on elite enemies.

[midnight violet]

i should be grinding money and mats right now, but im actually so annoyed that the last 3 hours after finishing work, ive seen a green truama staff and thats it for force weps. i mean.....is my time just a laugh to to these guys? wtf man.

[potent lotus]

vetcels shooting the back of an ogryn seething over surgechads stunning 2 chaos ogryns

[worthy wasp]

We just got a fat buff boyz

It wasnt a buff

But

[olive ember]

"buff" as in "our shit works now!"

[worthy wasp]

Ye lol

[lethal plover]

Psykinetic's Aura

[worthy wasp]

Thats gonna be huge

[lethal plover]

would this mean everyone in the team will have constant ult?

[bright cipher]

by the nature of psyker being so fundamentally different from gun users theres a ton of psyker exclusive bugs

[vernal frigate]

Make brain burst useful in Damnation please fatshark

[bright cipher]

that bring the class down

[summer prairie]

the aura only gives the cdr to the person who kills the elite, so no

[spare niche]

tbh i thought that was happening. just elites was tanking it lol

[livid wraith]

-Fixed an issue where Forcestaff AOE wasn't working on some enemy units.

Huh... wonder what that means.

inb4 kekw traumastaff good now bois

[vernal frigate]

Press X to doubt

Surgechads stay winning

[worthy wasp]

inb4 it means surge now stuns whole room

[spare niche]

https://tenor.com/view/cackles-star-wars-sheev-palpatine-gif-15366449

when i play

[potent lotus]

surgechads still just keep winning

[olive ember]

has the update been pushed yet?

[bright cipher]

u ever shot a surge and you see the VFX chain to an enemy but they get neither the stun or the bright blue lightning ticks?

[vernal frigate]

Yeah its wonky asf

[spare niche]

think so i updated earlier 1gb

[bright cipher]

im guessing this is a bug for all staves

[vernal frigate]

IF you drag your camera across the screen it'll bounce to enemies 50ft away

But do nothing

[rapid cliff]

Anyone up for helping with the most annoying penances (The obvious ones) I'm gonna go the fuck insane at this rate

[bright cipher]

enemies running through purge unaffected

trauma not farting on them

surge not stunning them

[olive ember]

I'd help if it wasn't for the fact that its 5 AM for me and I'm literally falling asleep

[rapid cliff]

That happened to me with the surge staff if there was one enemy a little infront of me like 2 feet they wouldn't get electricuted and smack me

[lethal plover]

Sibling, insanity is giving yourself to the warp

[worthy wasp]

Staff special attack bro

Jk

[rapid cliff]

Malleus Monstronum is so evil

[lethal plover]

cease the chase of penance. that path leads to Slaanesh

[spare niche]

is it me or is the special on the staff just really whack?

[rapid cliff]

But at least if you do it with a beast of nurgle I think they can only corrupt you not kill you

[spare niche]

no pun intended

[olive ember]

its useless, too slow to even be used as stagger

you are better off switching to melee and just blocking or attacking

[spare niche]

just gotta wait for the deflector roll lol

[rapid cliff]

I remember the first time I got a staff I was in the middle of a horde and I swore I had an animation where I smacked someone with the staff

[mellow crescent]

do you have an ogryn buddy with a shield?

[rapid cliff]

I have no friends that want to get darktide 😭

[livid wraith]

If you redirect the surge after casting, it will show visually that the effect has transferred, but it will not damage or stun them.

[robust meteor]

incredible. ty

[rapid cliff]

It wasn't me doing like a sweeping move it was just doing a charged attack to stun a horde for a few seconds

[spare niche]

best thing to do is get a brain burst feat build and then kite the nurgle

thats the only annoying one i have to do then im solid lol

[rapid cliff]

Pick n mix feels a lot easier now that I realize how some of the abilities of the psyker work

[olive ember]

you can literally use the surge staff at 99 without blowing up now

[rapid cliff]

I was a dumbass forgetting the psykinetics rage made brainburst faster if I use it

[weary karma]

welp still no brainburst power scaling

[sleek herald]

YES

[lethal plover]

Best is shield ogryn and witch for that penance

[olive ember]

the new limit is 99% peril

[livid wraith]

hmmm not from what i'm testing.

[olive ember]

as long as you release the cast at 99%

lemme check again

[cyan notch]

knew it was a bug the other staffs dont have this problem

[olive ember]

maybe its cuz I started at 96 or wte

[dusky kettle]

Still no pick and mix. Feels like I can do it at lvl4 with less chance of having 5 elites/specials around, or lvl5 with less chance of one hitting the enemies. Same issue with the self detonation one.

Wish the perils explosion did more damage

[rapid cliff]

Yeah, trying to spam brain burst on higher difficulties sucks because some enemies take two brain bursts to kill like why

[livid wraith]

its still 86 for me.

[tacit fractal]

Dude I need to see those settings

[lethal plover]

Not my video

I just converted for him

[bright cipher]

DLSS and AMD Fidelity do wonders

[tacit fractal]

Malleus Monstronum is pretty easy imo, did it first try against a plague ogryn and few mutants chasing me too

[bright cipher]

im running all low and it looks like ultra

[olive ember]

yeah no as long as you start a cast 97 or below and release the cast before you hit 100

[bright cipher]

at 1440p

[spare niche]

its easy to do but u need that team

[rapid cliff]

It's only really evil if you depend on doing it in quickplay games

[lethal plover]

Low in modern games, is high in older games

[robust meteor]

i did malleus with rando pug

[tacit fractal]

I did it on a pub too

[olive ember]

you dont blow up as long as you start a cast at 97 or below and release the cast before you hit 100, though with the surge staff at 97 its sketch af

[rapid cliff]

no need to rub it in maybe i'm just a lil stewpid

[olive ember]

cuz it takes a second and in that second you can easily just go from 97 to 100

[summer prairie]

I think it's the same 97.5

I can release at 100 even

[robust meteor]

did going out with a bang with a pug but that one took 12 hoursa

[summer prairie]

if I do the quick cast

[olive ember]

More importantly, I don't think you blow up unless you cast

[leaden needle]

this surge update is nice

you can attack now and reach 100 and you wont explode

[olive ember]

so like if you are charging surge staff and you hit 100% you don't just skip teh animation and blow up

[summer prairie]

if you charge it, you can blow up even if you cast at 97.5 or below

but if you right click left click release immediately, 97.5 is safge

[robust meteor]

iirc it goes by 1%

[tacit fractal]

Plague Ogryn feels easy fr Ofc I told em I’m doing the penance so they didn’t shoot it and took care of the hordes and such meanwhile I was getting thrown around a room by the monstrosity like a ball lmao

[olive ember]

even at 100% you can freely charge the surge staff without blowing up

[glossy bough]

Oh my god I KNEW something was up

[tacit fractal]

When you get the hang of it and you have the right feats you can do it fast

[glossy bough]

I feel so much less stupid now for blowing myself up with the staff

[olive ember]

the animation plays properly too

[tacit fractal]

But can you skip it still?

[rapid cliff]

The closest I got to doing the achievement was everyone leaving me and one other guy to fight a beast of nurgle

but it was malice difficulty not heresy

[olive ember]

so you can actually charge up even if your peril is at 100%, unleash a fully charged lightning strike and then press F properly now

[lethal plover]

infinite purgatus still works
lightning skip still works
welp

[olive ember]

instead of just blowing up without an animation

[summer prairie]

so now you can pretty much spam if you start venting immediately after releasing at 100

[tacit fractal]

So you weren’t doing the penance, get to lvl 30 first to make your life easier

[glossy bough]

I just got Monstorum today. Ogryn shield tanked a plague ogryn for me

[olive ember]

find a group with a shield ogryn and find a daemonhost

easist way to get achieve

[rapid cliff]

I've been at lvl 30 for a lil bit

[glossy bough]

Demonhost is definitely easier

[tacit fractal]

Oh

[rapid cliff]

More than a little bit honestly

[sleek herald]

I literally just went to LFG channel and we did a penance run for everyone, took 2 hours to get 4 people that thing but was worth it lmao

[olive ember]

daemonhost is both squishier and easier than plague ogryn if you can find a shield ogryn

[glossy bough]

Lowest HP and very consistent aggro

[rapid cliff]

I'm just trying to make my weapons the best they can be

[tacit fractal]

I thought so, ig I just went the harder way around it lmao

[olive ember]

also surge staff can hit more than 5 enemies now it seems like

[rapid cliff]

I've got all the achievements except I'm close to getting 100 missions complete, then going out with a bang, pick n mix and malleus monstronum

[olive ember]

its a bit inconsistent though so idk

[valid marsh]

yeah

[sterile lake]

Does his shield push destroy the penance?

[valid marsh]

Some are just useless

outright

[glossy bough]

Oh is that what those patch notes meant?

[lethal plover]

wat

[olive ember]

they changed the penance so you only have to deal 90% damage, so unless he does 10% damage via shield push no

[lethal plover]

can ppl confirm

[sterile lake]

Ah nice thanks

[tacit fractal]

Some but every row has a useful feat

[olive ember]

it seems inconsistent though

[valid marsh]

every row has a useful feat

[glossy bough]

Nope! In fact he even bopped it with the mace once or twice to get the aggro back to himself

[olive ember]

sometimes it hits 5 other times 6

[valid marsh]

But all of them should be useful

[tacit fractal]

BY THE EMPEROR BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

[olive ember]

another screenshot

[glossy bough]

You get that 10% to play with and if it's not a demonhost, recommend using it

[valid marsh]

There should be feats that lend to gunplay

Like, force staves are good

[pine topaz]

THEY BUFFED LIGHTNING STAFF

[valid marsh]

also, WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT

[tacit fractal]

Yes but that’s never the case in any game, not even the other archetypes have all feats being useful

[lethal plover]

[pine topaz]

we don't blow up if we lightning heavyt at 88%

[valid marsh]

I know

[lethal plover]

"Surge really needs a buff guys" -- fatshark

I will take it tho

[pine topaz]

they also didn't kill our animation cancelling

[weary karma]

all feat went brainburst-related and brain burst still underlevel over heresy

[summer prairie]

if you sprint cancel surge immediately, you can spam it at 100%

[valid marsh]

Yeah

[summer prairie]

indefinitely

[valid marsh]

Brain burst just eats shit heresy and above

[lethal plover]

people don't even know what brain burst is for

[olive ember]

after pushing two groups together

[valid marsh]

only thing its useful for is weakening ogryn units

[rapid cliff]

I just want my psyker goggles and mask

[lethal plover]

on damnation psyker is hard anti-ranged specials

[dusky kettle]

Good for taking out snipers and the shield Ogrins

[valid marsh]

doesn't take care of specials fast enough to matter

[tacit fractal]

Are you good?

[olive ember]

its