psyker-class

[tall mesa]

so you still have some rpession to hurry your ass

[olive ember]

Yes unless it glitched like pick n mix

[uneven sparrow]

Psyker truly is an overheating sniper turret that sometimes requires manual repairs

[bleak sonnet]

you can do it on 4

[summer wind]

i'll see what i can't do then

i will return dripping or drowning

[olive ember]

Honestly even w/o ogryn a decent peril block psyker can tank for ya

And to a lesser extent a zealot

Just be careful because the daemonhost seems to target whoever does the most damage to it next so if the ogryn dies for any reason prepare to get fked by the daemonhost

[lethal plover]

Lol ppl in damnation pubs are hilarious characters

[olive ember]

You get decent damnation pubs? I get trash or achievement hunters

[half turtle]

Yes that's me I'm the trash

[lethal plover]

Just met an Obama who died
"Tell Michelle I love her"

[covert ermine]

Just want more spells for psyker thats all 😌

[bleak sonnet]

damnation community is quite small

[crude cape]

should i upgrade this? been using it, really like the ranged blocking combo paired with peril blocking....

thought it was a gimmicky combo before as I was a Duelist sword lover, but after finding this i was surprised how strong it felt and converted lol. However i have not seen another force sword with Deflector on it for almost 100ilvl (im above 460 on my highest ranged weapons)

is it worth upgrading just to keep using it

to hold out for a better one

[bleak sonnet]

it is pretty good chance that you pub damnation with people in this chat

if you do it often

[tall mesa]

no

[lethal plover]

I met a gun psy actually

[olive ember]

Honestly up to you the stats are meh but having an extra trait helps a lot

[tall mesa]

it's worth playing until you have a better one tho. the deflector blessing is a quality of life you can never go back from.

especially with the super extra legendary shitty mobility of the that fucking non sense sword

[olive ember]

I have like zero tolerance and I rage quit after my 3rd fail in a row on heresy and go back to uprising so def not me kek

It’s why I don’t have the drip yet I still need to beat 3 mission types on heresy

[tall mesa]

i had a 40% mobility force sword for a while and then i swapped to a 35% i felt like a brick. but i was a stable brick with a warp shield.

[olive ember]

And I hate all 3 mission types

Investigation, disruption, and espionage bleh

[bleak sonnet]

i have like 30-40 damn clears but

[tall mesa]

the mobility stat at that number is a negative multiplier to your base char dash and sprint stats

[bleak sonnet]

still have not cleared espionage

a single time

on it

[olive ember]

Idk how you deal with investigations honestly

[restive slate]

Thet should buff the auspex push on investigation haha

[olive ember]

Like do you speedrun and split up or do you go slow and as a group

[bleak sonnet]

ive only had 2 attempts of it

both endless horde

it like never shows up on t5 when im on

[olive ember]

Also the map optimization on that map is actual trash

Like I’m lagging to shit in the whole first section

For investigation

[ornate hamlet]

So with the combat axe? I just Vigil Station oblivium Hardly needed my staff at all - on heresy (L4)

I just did*

[bleak sonnet]

he is one step closer to realizing gun superiority

so close, yet so far

[ornate hamlet]

Staff > Gun.

Sorry

[bleak sonnet]

how many gun damnation clears u got?

[muted tundra]

The humble lasgun > all

[olive ember]

It’s more axe superiority then gun superiority tbh

[ornate hamlet]

this was the axe I used.

[olive ember]

And also I want to run staff for the feel I’ll run a lasgun on my vet

[bleak sonnet]

if you're going to tell me "none its bad" then i dont think you're qualified to give an actual opinion

try it first

[ornate hamlet]

Not sure how to check.

[ornate hamlet]

Try what first?

[muted tundra]

The first wave split up and try to catch one near you before grouping up again immediately has been working for me

[stray cipher]

A gun is simply a short staff with a trigger

[ornate hamlet]

And a limited capacity.

[livid dirge]

I cry 😭

[half turtle]

What gun do people use anyways

[olive ember]

Look once psykers get a force enhanced bolter we will all agree copium

[teal cargo]

tf how is this possible

[bleak sonnet]

mark 4 las or mark 12

[ornate hamlet]

No, psykers need some of this:

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-duty-cod-gun-minigun-shooting-gif-25641982

THose'll be the ADHD psykers

all of their thoughts through a gun.

[half turtle]

Oh makes sense, I was briefly thinking people meant autogun or something bc of the screenshots

[violet pollen]

Why tf isn't an item given 100% chance if I have to wait for specific missions that can give an item

[bleak sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/astartes-warhammer40k-spacemarine-armour-laser-gif-17566336

[livid dirge]

no that was my very sad weekly shop

[ornate hamlet]

Are you being contrarian or something?

[livid dirge]

i just want a staff or sword and all i ever get is autoguns

[carmine raptor]

No revolvers?

[half turtle]

Agri braced is actually ok but maybe not on psykers

Tbf I haven't tried lol

[bleak sonnet]

revolver is so fun to shoot

but its so bad

[carmine raptor]

My psyker daily shop is always revolvers and axes and autoguns.

[olive ember]

Mark 4 is mid, mark 12 or recon mk Vld

[bleak sonnet]

mk 4 is actually pretty decent with proper rolls

[livid dirge]

nope ive gotten 4 orange autoguns from emperor and then shops keep giving me autoguns

[half turtle]

Is recon to pop bb from the talent better or just bc recon is good

[bleak sonnet]

its a lot more forgiving than mk12 tbh

[olive ember]

As long as you aren’t using a mg la

[carmine raptor]

Yeah.. I got a really good chain sword from emperor's gift. Looking for one on my vet so that was a kick in the shins.

[olive ember]

Recon is bullet hose and good at hordes and decent at deleting everything besides crushers

[ornate hamlet]

Well that second perk is utter garbage (+1 stam)

[olive ember]

If you have infernus it can even deal with armor

[half turtle]

Huh I'll have to try it, recon dps always felt bad to me

[half turtle]

But could be the type

[olive ember]

Mk 12 is just dmr basically

[ruby karma]

Hmmmmm

[half turtle]

I run 12 on zealot it's great

[olive ember]

Warp resistance is sadge moment

[half turtle]

Probably the best overall las feels like

[bleak sonnet]

warp resist the most important stat on that sword ngl

and first target

[ruby karma]

This instead then?

[olive ember]

Oh yeah treat recon like an smg, you can hipfire unless they are far away

[bleak sonnet]

i would still use the FS over chainsword

personally

[olive ember]

Don’t rly get the point of chainsword if you have force sword

[muted tundra]

Any of the recon lasguns feel nice to use, the faster it is the less ammo efficient but the more reliable to pop the head burst feat with that 4%

[stray cipher]

Kinetic flayer is 10%

[ornate hamlet]

Any tips for getting Going out with a Bang without just dying before being able to explode

[olive ember]

The slower ones are more ammo efficient but less overall dps since they pump out bullets slower, at which point just switch to the mk 12

[ivory lake]

how high can soulblaze stack?

[ornate hamlet]

(and actually being able to kill all 3 elites in 1 blast)

[olive ember]

Honestly I just did it with friends

And they covered for me and drew aggro while shoving elites together

[muted tundra]

Granted that feat is easy enough to trigger as is

[muted tundra]

Is that the one that has a chance for free headburst? I read the tooltip last night saying 4%, I knew it was 10 in beta. Might have been reading the warp charge on kill though.

Drunk psyker night

[olive ember]

Not sure but pretty high… the problem is actually getting that many stacks feasibly you need like 6+ stacks of soulblaze for decent dot damage

[ruby karma]

Got the sword anyway. Warp res my be low, but its massive upgrade and deflector.
Hope we can upgrade base stats later

[bleak sonnet]

thing with force sword is

[ivory lake]

yeah but for example beast of nurgle you can just continue flamespraying

[bleak sonnet]

base stats aside from warp resist and first target are pretty negligable

[olive ember]

I doubt it but I think we can transfer traits from one weapon to another

[bleak sonnet]

i think the dmg difference on my 60% dmg roll force sword is like

1-2 less

than my 79% roll

[ruby karma]

I get that. But its fiiiine. Im sure it is :*(

[olive ember]

The problem is that his resistance is closer to like 40 which affects him more

[bleak sonnet]

yeah like i said, aside from warp res

which is why its important

regardless of other stats

[olive ember]

Yeah

[ruby karma]

Watch them release 2 handed FS next week and I got no duckets

[olive ember]

4% is the lvl 15 trait that gives you 4% chance to get a charge on kill, 10% is the lvl 25 trait that gives you 10% chance to bb per hit (effect only occurs every 15 seconds)

[muted tundra]

8% ducks on all curios

[olive ember]

I mean even if they do you prob would have to A) see if it’s good and not like the heavy sword 🤢
B) also roll deflector on it

[ruby karma]

Worth turnin purple?

[bleak sonnet]

if it can even roll deflector lol

[ruby karma]

Hahahaha yes.

[olive ember]

Quell speed mid but only worth if you have the crafting sources to spare to push it to gold imo

[olive ember]

I’m assuming a force weapon will have deflector but who knows

[bleak sonnet]

fatshart moment

[ruby karma]

I would just like to know if they are going to do anything with BB. Ive seen some good suggestions around, but you never know.

[bleak sonnet]

BB is pretty juicy though when u use it right

[olive ember]

Honestly I’d be happy if they just revert the BB back to closed beta form

[jade geode]

I've been checking for what feels like a week, and buying grey/green force swords and blowing materials to upgrade them.....
Not one sword with Deflector.
Not One.

[bleak sonnet]

i feel like most people saying BB sucks actively suck at using BB

[jade geode]

Crafting when? >_>

[olive ember]

Even with the extra peril they added at launch atleast give me the targeting and the stun at start of cast back

And I’d be happy enough

[ruby karma]

Best suggestion I've seen, is that they make BB just deal damage and gen peril as you channel.
Then when X dies, you do the pop thing.
Means low health enemies die quick but you could one shot a mauler for example, just have to be able to channel for long enough XD

[leaden belfry]

well have you tried it at higher difficulties where the pool of high value targets shrink to like 4 target you can reliably 1 shot. And why BB when the Vet will beat you to every high value target kill?

[jade geode]

I might've been one of the people making that suggestion XD

[bleak sonnet]

i only play tier 5

and tier 1 for scripture runs

BB has a great niche doing big chunks of damage to crushers, which are targets that vets cannot often kill with the preferred vet loadout for t5

[leaden belfry]

then please aducate me to your knowledge.

[bleak sonnet]

ult then BB spam on crushers contributes a lot of damage to a otherwise very tanky enemy

you dont one shot it but you make it go down way faster than it wouldve

[olive ember]

It’s basically used for either gunners spam or ogryn spam, though that does occur surprisingly a lot on higher difficulties

[bleak sonnet]

yeah

pmuch

[agile cloak]

That would make it so much better, especially since you wouldn't be wasting all that time to not deal damage if your team steps in. It would actually, oh I don't know, work in sync with what your team is doing lol.

[jade geode]

Exactly.

[bleak sonnet]

i cast it on gunners, snipers, crushers, bulwarks

[olive ember]

BB is basically the “oh shit” burst damage when you need to I suppose when paired with kinetic barrage

[bleak sonnet]

well the thing we run into usually with my group is that

[olive ember]

Even in horde event since you are the only class that can press F to push everything away and immediately start targeting high value but

[bleak sonnet]

our vet (and myself sometimes) tend to be running lasguns, which do at most 5 damage to a crusher

[olive ember]

Yeah on its own it feels like trash

[bleak sonnet]

our zealot tends to run dagger or tac axe, both of which dont pen armor well

so crushers don't die very fast

meaning i can get good value out of my BB on them

and bulwarks

if you have a bolter vet, you prob wont have as good a time with that 100% of the time

but bolter vet has its own set of downsides

that it usually isnt ran by most good vets in t5

[olive ember]

Even with a bolter on higher difficulty a bolter can only effectively deal with like 1-2 ogryns on higher difficulty so there’s that

[frigid pond]

Couldnt zealot run bolter

[jade geode]

FYI if you run high crit (like with Vet) you can spam lasgun fire at crushers in a pinch, as crits pen armor fairly well.
It's not efficient, but it's okay-ish.

[frigid pond]

Not a perfect solution but

[olive ember]

Well yes but flamer is surprisingly valuable

[frigid pond]

Yeah flamer is good

Its a toss up

[bleak sonnet]

i dont think bolter is worth taking

you have an answer to crushers (bb)

most good zealots i know run flamers or run crucian roulette sticks

for their melee

[olive ember]

Gunner spam is the most dangerous enemy in the game so typically you want the vet to take care of gunners

[frigid pond]

Definitely

[bleak sonnet]

yes

[olive ember]

Also zealots can run thunder hammer or eviscerator if they rly want to deal with crushers

[bleak sonnet]

no

thunder hammer is laughably bad

[frigid pond]

Its not that bad

[olive ember]

It’s a niche weapon

[frigid pond]

It “works”

It definitely needs a buff though

[bleak sonnet]

it's that bad when compared to the other options

[olive ember]

Basically I only run it if I’m using a flamer for everything else

[frigid pond]

Yeah hammer needs flamer

[bleak sonnet]

hammer has one use case which requires like

[olive ember]

I think it does the best single target so I run it exclusively when I have a flamer

[bleak sonnet]

3 things to be happening

1. there's a crusher or other armored enemy
2. the crusher isn't in a horde (you can't rev up and attack since there's frames you are left unable to block or attack after)
3. i don't bb it before those two things happen

which happens maybe

once ever

[olive ember]

Though I haven’t taken my lvl 20 zealot past malice so idk how well it works once you hit high difficulty with like 3 crushers at once

[ornate hamlet]

mmmmmm

[frigid pond]

Its definitely sad

Zealot is kinda in a weird spot

[snow dust]

So it turns out psyker can tank demonhost with a dueling sword without much issue.

[olive ember]

Then again I plan on running antax combat axe on my zealot

[bleak sonnet]

zealots have some of the best horde control melee in the game, if you're giving that up to NOT instakill crushers with a weapon that effectively stops your entire dps/ defense to use the special of

[frigid pond]

Zealot isnt bad, but the way you play doesnt… feel right imo

[olive ember]

It can tank with any weapon if they have peril blocking

[bleak sonnet]

kinda seems like a lose

[jade geode]

I think the biggest issue is that, for the Zealot (who is supposed to be tanky/melee focused) all their unique melee weapons are out-classed by either global weapons, or other classes unique weapons.
Chainsword is great in many situations.
Power Sword is "swish swish death" to most enemies
Catachan MKI is an all-rounder workhorse...

[bleak sonnet]

antax / tac axe (specifically on zealot) / to a lesser extent dagger are way too good to ever consider picking up evis / TH

[olive ember]

I’m running zealot as my primary horde clear/boss killer class hence thunder hammer and flamethrower

[bleak sonnet]

that wont work t5

[snow dust]

Aye

[bleak sonnet]

specifically the hammer

[olive ember]

Though I’m considering switching to combat axe and running combat axe for horde clear and flamer for boss but idk how the fire stacks build up

[bleak sonnet]

derpy the biggest advice i can give you

is do not build based around something that happens 10% of the time

make a build that benefits you always

regardless of when/where

[jade geode]

THIS^

[bleak sonnet]

taking a weapon "for bosses" unless you're planning to only run assass missions

[rare bough]

Unless it's 11% of the time. THEN do it.

[jade geode]

Seen way too many people fall into that trap of specializing too much

[olive ember]

Ik for assassination a good flamer will basically lock down the fight though since you can stack burn on boss while also killing enemies all around ya

[bleak sonnet]

is effectively building for like

1/10 of the time

that's why im a huge proponent of lasgun psyker

[frigid pond]

Technically any “for bosses” weapon should cover a “elite killing” job

[bleak sonnet]

you're ALWAYS benefitting

not just the 1/10 times surge is "better"

[frigid pond]

If you wanna go that route

Well surge is always good so

[olive ember]

My main problem is combat axe + flamer has zero range and not good against crushers, but I hate how slow bolters are to take out and I also dislike the eviscerator or the thunder hammer

[frigid pond]

Yeah i mean, play whatever you like

[bleak sonnet]

combat axe is great against crushers

use heavies

it staggers

[vernal imp]

this zealot chat now?

[frigid pond]

I guess so

[olive ember]

I mean yeah but the kill time is fucking ages which isn’t good if you want to take it out of the fight before the swarm behind you shows up

[potent echo]

Yea everything is viable on damnation tbh

[bleak sonnet]

you shouldnt worry about crusher kill time that much as a zealot

[frigid pond]

Is some stuff weaker? Yeah sure probably

[potent echo]

No need to sweat on DWONS+

[bleak sonnet]

if your weapon can kill them decently

[frigid pond]

But also not everyone is able to get everything they want haha

[bleak sonnet]

that's good enough

[frigid pond]

Shop rng is such a bitch

[devout axle]

It do be

[vernal imp]

i got this as biggie thrones' gift, highest stat on a FS with deflector for me, and no bad perks like +stamina and +sprint

[bleak sonnet]

on t5 everyone should be running a loadout that contributes a bit to everything

[snow dust]

Wait...why do I still lose stamina when blocking with peril block?

[bleak sonnet]

one guy might not be able to solo crushers in 2 seconds but

the team together with good loadouts can all come together to kill everything fast

[olive ember]

You shouldn’t unless you are pushing

[frigid pond]

Eh just play whatever you like and do whatever you can

[cyan notch]

use knife + revolver

[olive ember]

Actually you can also hit critical peril if you block too much too quickly, at which point it switches to stamina

[potent echo]

4 lasguns how you deal with crushers

[frigid pond]

There isnt a way lol

[snow dust]

Probably that, need to test again

[ember hornet]

Yon hammer deals with crushers

[frigid pond]

No hope, only crush

[devout axle]

I play Trauma on Damnation because fuck the conventional.

So ye, play whatever you like.

[olive ember]

So against stuff like daemonhosts and crusher overheads you should still dodge

[frigid pond]

I really wanna find a good trauma and try it

[bleak sonnet]

its underwhelming even with god rolls

i have a 380

[frigid pond]

I mean im sure

[bleak sonnet]

not unusable by any means tho

pretty fun

[olive ember]

Daemon hosts do enough block damage that each hit can bring your peril up by like 30% so one full combo without dodging will put you at crit

[devout axle]

This is mine

[frigid pond]

My main issue is its kinda clunky

But maybe its something i just gotta get used to

[potent echo]

I found the biggest daemonhost exploit, dbd loops and vaulting windows

[ivory zealot]

It almost feels like psykers have the least variety of weapons; 4 staffs

[olive ember]

The problem with trauma is that there’s no upside tbh

[frigid pond]

I hear its good against elites, so maybe theres that

Like the damage is good

[bleak sonnet]

its actually the most well rounded damage model

[frigid pond]

But im not too sure

[olive ember]

You can pretty much do everything you can with trauma with 1/4 the peril and twice as fast using voidstrike except maybe staggering specials etc

[bleak sonnet]

the issue is purely peril

[potent echo]

Only weapon that can stagger 4 crushers and 3 maulers coming at you

[frigid pond]

But yeah its costly

[frigid pond]

Surge?

[bleak sonnet]

surge stun 5 enemy

not 7

[potent echo]

Unreliable if there is a horde

[frigid pond]

Cast it twice

[devout axle]

Its AoE damage is high, it can knock down anything except Mutants, and it ignores armor entirely.

[olive ember]

Well I just press my F ability and dodge backwards tbh, can also surge staff to cc some

[bleak sonnet]

ok, you stunned 5 enemies twice

there's still 7

[potent echo]

Unless you count surge exploit but that beats everything

[frigid pond]

You can choose who lol

Stunning 7 with trauma needs them all close enough

[olive ember]

Well yeah but against anything besides maybe maulers and crushers you can outright kill using voidstrike

[frigid pond]

Unless you have charge time

[devout axle]

This is exactly it

[cyan notch]

buff trauma range a little

[potent echo]

Yea you can only get 3 casts off full charge

The nerf to F really hits trauma hard

[frigid pond]

Yeah that is the sad part about it

[devout axle]

I can outright kill them using Trauma too. Its never an issue of being able to kill stuff. Its an issue of its peril cost.

[olive ember]

I still think if they added a ground affect like a lingering fire dot (coruscation) or a slowing grav field then it would be fine

Even w/ high peril cuz it would be justified since it leaves a ground effect

[bleak sonnet]

if they buff it im scared itll be op tho

[olive ember]

Also it’s less boring than just tweaking some numbers to make it more peril efficient

[devout axle]

In fact, I'd say my ability to delete a horde in a single cast is probably higher than that of a Voidstrike staff. Voidstrike is better for holding choke points, but Trauma definitely feels better in open areas.

[frigid pond]

Trauma vs void depends a lot on positioning yeah

But i could see it being better

[olive ember]

The problem is that a single full cast is equal to 3 voidstrike half casts

[bleak sonnet]

trauma only needs 1 cast to kill horde tho

[tardy flower]

voidstrike can also headshot targets

[devout axle]

Don't need more than a single cast against most hordes. Yes, the peril cost is an issue. We've acknowledged that.

[olive ember]

Depends on spread

[devout axle]

But ignoring the peril cost, Trauma has some very big upsides.

Which is the point I was arguing.

[frigid pond]

Anyway purge staff it is

[tardy flower]

ignoring the peril cost

[frigid pond]

Lul

[potent echo]

Purge gang

[bleak sonnet]

anything but a surge

[olive ember]

I can bring a trauma but I don’t remember the AOE on it being big enough to delete a horde in a single cast

[spice swan]

Does this class ever get good or is it always ass

[frigid pond]

Nope

[olive ember]

Haha ha

[frigid pond]

Its always bad

Stop playing now

[potent echo]

Purge might need a small damage buff tho, afaik teammates killing soulblaze enemies doesn't generate warpcharges for you

[tardy flower]

if you want to clear a horde, just blow yourself up

[frigid pond]

Honestly

[olive ember]

They nerfed blow up damage, not efficient anymore

[devout axle]

The AoE is quite literally double the AoE of void.

[tardy flower]

efficient

[bleak sonnet]

i just spray my lasgun in

horde dead

[olive ember]

Honestly though

Why did they fucking nerf blow up damage of all things

Like bruh

Some guy was looking at balance between classes and went “yeah the damage psykers do when they blow up is too much, nerf that shit”

[devout axle]

Because they don't want people actually getting their penances. And this makes it harder for people to get "Going out with a bang"

[tardy flower]

idk, it's making the achievement a real pain in the ass to get

[bleak sonnet]

skill issue

[frigid pond]

It is a pretty funny nerf

[olive ember]

We were running it on malice and it took me 3 tries because apparently shotgunners don’t instant die or some shit

[frigid pond]

LOL

Of course they dont

[lethal plover]

PSA: Spam the left click on damnation. You shut up entire gunman line. don't even aim.

[olive ember]

the shotgunner survived by like literally 1 hp

[frigid pond]

Thats in the tutorial

Suppression is neat

[potent echo]

I have been spamming left click since CBT trauma staff

[frigid pond]

Mood

[bleak sonnet]

:/

[frigid pond]

Actually real talk

Are scripts even worth it

[olive ember]

You have to spam left click with surge staff if you want any long ranged damage

[potent echo]

Purge staff left click kind of kekw though

[frigid pond]

At level 30

[olive ember]

Lol no

[frigid pond]

Outside of weeklies

[tardy flower]

i need 25 of them to get my weekly done -.-

[frigid pond]

Okay thought so lol

[potent echo]

Yes for weeklies

[bleak sonnet]

they should give guaranteed emp gift

at 3/3

[olive ember]

Nothing is worth it past 30 you don’t get exp and you don’t need gold once you grind the game long enough

[stray cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[frigid pond]

IM JUST SAYING

[potent echo]

But I always usually get them incidentally because plasteel hunting

[devout axle]

I have never actively looked for scrips ever. If I find them while looking for crafting materials, that's a bonus. If not, oh well.

[olive ember]

Each heresy is like 11k and each malice is like 6k how often do you actually buy a 14k weapon from the shop

[lethal plover]

the emperor actually abhors religions and scriptures

[olive ember]

Only do so for weeklies

[potent echo]

Plasteel > diamantine > books

[ornate hamlet]

"HoW mAnY dAmNaTiOn ClEaRs YoU gOt? wHy So FeW? I gOt 100!" (Yeah, of lowered intensity, but the numbers don't tell us that...)

[barren arch]

right I remember someone mentioned air fryers in this chat
offtopic but I would just like to point out that I indeed own an air fryer and it is the shit

[ornate hamlet]

thanks for clearing that up for us

[frigid pond]

Thats crazy

[barren arch]

no problem citizen

[olive ember]

My fucking parents make air fried steak lmao

[bleak sonnet]

my air fryer has two air frying compartments

[olive ember]

Truly amazing

[devout axle]

Air fryers took over my life.

[barren arch]

I'm sorry they what now

[bleak sonnet]

i can make chicken and fries

[potent echo]

Air fryers is a scam just use your oven

[bleak sonnet]

at once

[olive ember]

You grab a steak, throw it in an air fryer

It cooks and then you eat it

[frigid pond]

Ive kinda been in this boat

[devout axle]

My air fryer is better than my oven.

[barren arch]

that poor steak

[vernal imp]

holy shit did someone mention air fryers, i love mine its so cheap

[frigid pond]

We have one and its… okay?

[potent echo]

My oven is better than my air fryer psych

[bleak sonnet]

ovens take too long to preheat

[barren arch]

anyways

air fryer psyker staff when?

[crimson pond]

Is anyone trying to do the challenge “going out with a bang ? I need help

[potent echo]

Tru

[ornate hamlet]

idk man ur the warden, u get on that

[devout axle]

That's called Purgatus staff.

[olive ember]

Also I just realized we’ve argued so much all week long that a warden showed up

Be proud siblings

[barren arch]

how lmao

[ornate hamlet]

your name is a different color

[bleak sonnet]

we had the first recorded sexism ban in this very chat

[ornate hamlet]

lead the charge

[bleak sonnet]

a thing to be proud of

[olive ember]

Tf now how did I miss that

I basically live in this chat

[barren arch]

he got skill issue'd

[potent echo]

Isn't melta kind of an air fryer

[barren arch]

I shall try
and we shall all have air fried steaks once I am done

[ornate hamlet]

yes, like chicken-fried steak, but air

[tardy flower]

air fried eggs

[bleak sonnet]

air fried steak sounds abysmal

[ornate hamlet]

it sounds like leather

[bleak sonnet]

im gonna go buy a ribeye and chuck it in my air fryer now

for science

[ornate hamlet]

let us know how it goes

[frigid pond]

this is reminding me of the steak cooked in a toaster i saw

cursed shit

[ornate hamlet]

yucky

[barren arch]

unironically air fried steak sounds a lot better than what my parents do to most of their cuts of meat, especially smaller ones

[bleak sonnet]

i had a roommate who microwaved steak

[devout axle]

delet this

[frigid pond]

DELETE THIS

[barren arch]

my dad can make a sick pork belly

[bleak sonnet]

like regularly too

[devout axle]

delet it now

[bleak sonnet]

not just a one time thing

[ornate hamlet]

well done > all tbh

[barren arch]

but like he'd tenderize chicken breast

[violet pollen]

I'm gonna scream,3 mission with item potentially and I've got nothing

[bleak sonnet]

skill issue

[violet pollen]

True

[bleak sonnet]

im telling u though what that man did to that steak was war crime

[barren arch]

also my humble apologies to @olive ember for I do not/did not wish to insult your heritage

[violet pollen]

It's should 100% give item because I gotta wait for them to show up

[bleak sonnet]

is that what the green thing means

[olive ember]

If someone does actually airfry their steak tell me how it goes. Cuz ngl I don’t go to steakhouses ever so I have no taste in steaks and eat everything

[midnight violet]

wait. missions give items?

[violet pollen]

Ya the eagle is item chance

[frigid pond]

i heard yall like guns

[olive ember]

I’m Asian, steaks aren’t our thing and I just eat it cuz meat kek

[bleak sonnet]

i got u

[barren arch]

I mean my air fryer isn't big enough for a steak, I don't think

[bleak sonnet]

chunk the steak up

:)

[barren arch]

no

[olive ember]

Complete rng

[bleak sonnet]

everyone knows you should cut your sirloin into 4 evenly sized cubes before airfrying

standard industry practice

[barren arch]

I mostly just use my air fryer to like

make french fries and chicken nuggets

[bleak sonnet]

i make pizza in mine

[candid temple]

nuggies? 👀

[frigid pond]

i use my air fryer for nuggies as well

[barren arch]

how fuckin big is your air fryer

[frigid pond]

its just quicker

[bleak sonnet]

really big dude

and its got two holes

to put food in

[empty remnant]

there a certain level when a purgatus staff will drop?

[teal cargo]

Man why iis my store always so junky

[bleak sonnet]

i dropped a grand on this mf

[tardy flower]

17 or 18ish i think

[barren arch]

goddan

[teal cargo]

no staffs, no mk5s, no force swords

[midnight violet]

wwhat determines it? completing the scrip or grim secondaries? or just any completed mission?

[candid temple]

I wonder about the side-effects of cooking food with warpfire. 🤔

[barren arch]

it's crispier

[bleak sonnet]

thank god tax evasion exists

otherwise i wouldnt be able to afford such extravagant purchases

[teal cargo]

only guns and alchys axes

[olive ember]

Like I said complete rng lmao

To my knowledge atleast

[frigid pond]

secondary objectives should raise the odds :( but they dont

[teal cargo]

yea sometimes you get emperors gift

but dont worry its junk anwyays

[olive ember]

Even if they did ain’t worth considering you get like a grey auto gun

[teal cargo]

like a random gun

[frigid pond]

boss kills and objectives should effect loot tables but its all rng instead

[lethal plover]

I was wondering where the hell the vet was at that moment
welp

[frigid pond]

well it could give like better loot

[tardy flower]

sometimes you get 4 axes in a row

[bright pike]

y u gotta give me this game 😭

[frigid pond]

at least

[candid temple]

totally unsubstantiated personal experience:
first few runs of the day = usually get a emperor's gift
longer sessions = dry af

[bleak sonnet]

i still remember my first emp's gift

grey laspistol

[frigid pond]

kinda like in VT2 where it like, a better lootbox at the end of the mission based on stuff you did

[candid temple]

that would be rational

[frigid pond]

kinda gives a reason to do scripts and stuff too

[teal cargo]

jbut nah its just rng

[frigid pond]

i know its too crazy

[potent echo]

Corner camping strategy, works everytime (until mutant shows up)

[barren arch]

I don't get a lot of Emperor's Gifts, but the first one I got was a purple at like level 14-ish

so I think it balances itself out

[teal cargo]

Man why play Psyker when we have sooo much junk in shop pool

[potent echo]

I seem to get emperor's gift every other mission after level 30

[candid temple]

because full crafting fill fix it

[barren arch]

cus I get to sneeze and knock everyone in front of me down

[olive ember]

Still disliked the rng, a man can only take so many gold pickaxes from emperors coffer or wte it was called

[candid temple]

just farm mats

[frigid pond]

i mean fair

[empty remnant]

any tips for overall leveling in regards to what missions i should pick?

[frigid pond]

its just slightly better then how it is rn

[candid temple]

all my emperor's have been non psyker weapons 😂

wait no, I did get a duelling sword

[lethal plover]

so that maybe 2 months from now meta shifts to gun psyker

[frigid pond]

malice gives decent exp for leveling if you can clear it with the gear you got

[potent echo]

Do malice if you can clear it consistently

[frigid pond]

if not do t2

[potent echo]

Side objectives are a tossup

[frigid pond]

whatever it was called

[bleak sonnet]

gun psyker is what axe psyker was a week ago, obviously the better choice that everyone shot down without even trying it

until they try it,..'

[potent echo]

Go for low intensity because it gives more rewards for some reason lol

[olive ember]

Assassination on malice is fairly quick if team is decent

[frigid pond]

id try it yaknow, if the shop would give me one

[candid temple]

better than vet? because why play psyker if you're going to run gun? 🤔

[olive ember]

And yea cuz it’s a “mission modifier”

[candid temple]

for BB?

[covert ermine]

I have full shop of autoguns nothing more

[empty remnant]

whats malice?

[lethal plover]

I meat a gun psyker in damnation endless today
he swore the recon lasgun gives better ttk for horde and such

[olive ember]

He prefers it…. But it works for him so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worthy wasp]

Vet doesnt use peril to block

[barren arch]

the recon lasgun is fun

[bleak sonnet]

its better than vet at certain things

worse than vet at certain things

[frigid pond]

vet also has 200 toughness that he can regain for free

[vernal imp]

it's done, all psyker penances finished, only one i couldn't solo was malleus monstronum which a few guys in LFG helped with
now i can play the game

[frigid pond]

nice

[potent echo]

Difficulty 3

[ornate hamlet]

Gun psyker might be better but you can not convince me it doesnt feel like playing veteran but worse

[barren arch]

based name

[worthy wasp]

Psyker has a terrible class but a strong af career. The peril mechanic and the way it interacts with 2 of your talents allows you to make any kind of build you want work and be strong

[empty remnant]

thanks

[ornate hamlet]

Like if Im gonna play a class thats worse at killing specials/elites Im at least gonna lean into its gimmick and aesthetic just because its cool

[worthy wasp]

All future classes for Psyker are gonna be nuts

[bleak sonnet]

it feels like playing a psyker with a gun

[vernal imp]

i like gun psyker, but only in malice and below if you want to speed things through, autogun is great for clear & killing armour

[frigid pond]

i play psy for the staves

[worthy wasp]

Because Psyker is still great despite Psykinetic being dog shit

[tropic halo]

I was so stunned seeing a trauma psyker in heresy i got hit a lot.

[summer wind]

i decided to try to go for pick'n'mix because that and the boss one is all i need

[tender cipher]

If gun psyker had access to shotguns I would play it way more often.

[lethal plover]

I still don't see the allure of guns yet
you give up cool moments like these

[summer wind]

how the fuck do you do this

there's never 5 elites you can oneshot with brainburst on 4

[potent echo]

Psyker lasgun is what you need when you have 3 ranged only vet bolters

[olive ember]

Pick n mix is currently the hardest but is apparently bugged and can be done on malice rn

[summer wind]

am i expected to soften them up first?

[vernal imp]

i THOUGHT they removed shotguns from us, i remember us having them in the closed beta

[summer wind]

oh that makes it way easier

[bleak sonnet]

dude why are they alive for so long

that hurt to watch

[olive ember]

Run it on heresy and wait for gunners packs tbh if #’s are the issue

[tender cipher]

Yeah pretty sure they removed it for us despite teasing us in the beta.

[vernal imp]

i wouldn't say pick and mix is the hardest, a lot of levels tend to have 5 gunner spawns near the very start

[olive ember]

There have been multiple instances where 5+ gunners spawn and you just bb em down

[summer wind]

yeah the issue is other people

[vernal imp]

going out with a bang was pure CBT though

[summer wind]

if i could solo queue? no problem

but the issue is i feel bad forcing other people to just, not shoot the dps machines shooting at them

it grinds the match to a halt while i wait for more to build up

and there's no solo queue

[olive ember]

Alternatively then you can get damnation endless hordes especially on logistratum maps with the bridge

[potent echo]

Just ask on LFG maybe you can get 1 shieldgryn

[vernal imp]

get kinetic barrage and pick and mix is pretty easy, it's just waiting for the RNG to get 5 gunners / shotgunners

[olive ember]

Pubs tend to be empty on damnation

[potent echo]

Helped quite a few ppl

[worthy wasp]

BB? Meh. Warp charges? Meh. Soulblaze? Doodoo.

Deflector? Peril to block? Quell to gain on-demand toughness which leads to constant toughness regen when using non-force weapons? Quell on weak spot hit? Best CC in the game by a mile? Arguably best tank in the game?

Its a strong af foundation which hard carries an otherwise shitty class, which is going to lead to future classes for Psyker being strong as shit

[summer wind]

see, that's always the case when i want to clear them normally

but today it's been full

[vernal imp]

my advice is chasm logistratum map, heresy or damnation with high intense, restart if no gunners at start, easy pick n mix

[bleak sonnet]

i got mine on the sewer map

[lethal plover]

eventually there will be more ppl in damnation pubs
but for now expect to play for 3 or 4 minutes to get full stack

[bleak sonnet]

near the start

[jovial frigate]

👀 got some potential

[olive ember]

I mean peril to block is a talent that might not be on other classes

[summer wind]

i'll do it on the sewer or chasm logistratum on 5, and until they show just playing 3

[bleak sonnet]

do it on 4

so u 1 tap shotgunner

less rng

[worthy wasp]

All the other features will be tho

[summer wind]

was doing it on 5 for less randoms so i could solo it

[worthy wasp]

Or most

[olive ember]

I won’t say much until I see the classes themselves

[vernal imp]

yeah, the base psyker is trash but there's a few good things that are carrying us hard, the peril block is like the only feat that feels like a feat whereas the other ones feel like they should be part of our kit straight away so rough

[olive ember]

Remember that Kruber has both huntsman and mercenary in vermintide

[lethal plover]

I can't say that I see peril block being present in future psyker classes

[summer wind]

gimme an electro-priest

[worthy wasp]

It wont, but thats not the only thing I listed

[bleak sonnet]

psyker aint bad

[summer wind]

psyker in the end is fine, but the feats are kinda boring yeah

[bleak sonnet]

imo 2nd best class

[worthy wasp]

IMO best class

[olive ember]

The problem with psyker is that it’s overall kit synergy with BB sucks, not that it’s objectively bad imo

[bleak sonnet]

zealot > psyker > vet > ogryn

[frigid pond]

psy is... pretty sad

[vernal imp]

we're not bad but there's a lot of bad to look at

[summer wind]

a lot

[lethal plover]

[summer wind]

looking at you, brain burst

[worthy wasp]

And gets better the high diff you play because the +10% elite bonus being more relevant the higher the difficulty

[frigid pond]

im pretty sure vet is the strongest class rn

[lethal plover]

enjoy the new hot take

[bleak sonnet]

zealot is insane, i never die on my zealot

heal to full hp every 90 sec

[lethal plover]

I will get popcorn

[keen pawn]

F... the blast radius

[summer wind]

yeah it is

[bleak sonnet]

i dont think there's anything that a vet can do that other classes cant cover tbh

[frigid pond]

i think a debate could be made for ogryn and zealot though

[ornate hamlet]

Who needs CC anyways

[worthy wasp]

I feel that way about Zealot

[olive ember]

Overall yes, the weapons deal good damage to basically everything, nades for horde clear and even anti armor, power sword is a meme

[lethal plover]

a few hours ago people here were arguing the opposite
nothing psyker does that other classes can't do

[worthy wasp]

4 Psykers > 4 of any other class too

Psykers are versatile as shit

[frigid pond]

psy is versatile as hell

but we're not amazing at one thing

[bleak sonnet]

i would agree music if the heal talent didnt exist

[frigid pond]

other then maybe cc

[bleak sonnet]

my zealot heals to full hp

every time i proc

basically invincible, short cooldown

[frigid pond]

but even that ogryn and zealot exist

[covert ermine]

Can any other class instantly restore 60% toughness? I don't think so

[vernal imp]

just about the only thing that psykers are amazing at is reviving people

[olive ember]

Wat weapons you run on him

[bleak sonnet]

combat axe

and autogun for crucian roulette

[olive ember]

Wats crucian roulette out of curiosity

[bleak sonnet]

crit % per missing bullet

works on melee wep if ur gun is empty

and stowed

[worthy wasp]

Been debating what melee to use if Combat Axe MkV gets nerfed, gonna test Atrox Mk2 Tac Axe later when I get off

[lethal plover]

yeah I ran into this zealot build in damnation once
guy just uses empty magazine gun

[bleak sonnet]

yep

dont need a gun

if i take critical damage i heal to full hp

[olive ember]

How often ya crit with that?

[lethal plover]

but you're sacrificing a flamer or a bolter and is that justified

[bleak sonnet]

yes

bolter bad

i wish i could clip like u man

i solo the game on my zealot lol

[lethal plover]

that would be nice to see

[vernal imp]

bolter is only great on vet because of reload speed and the fact they can almost nuke a boss like BH saltz

[bleak sonnet]

flamer is what i would use otherwise

[worthy wasp]

Good zealot is pog, too bad 99.999% are bad

[bleak sonnet]

but crucian roulette is too strong to pass up

[olive ember]

I mean bolter is good but I honestly think its overrated, low accuracy, huge recoil, slow reload/switching, ADS is kinda mid

[lethal plover]

well good thing you're shit-talking it in a psyker channel instead of vet

[craggy breach]

the dmg bost from warp charges work across the board or only for BB and staff?

[vernal imp]

is crucian a thing for all autoguns? %crit from missing bullets sounds like a bug since it sounds like its meant to be a revolver thing lol

[olive ember]

across the board but its not noticeable either way tbh

[vernal imp]

malice and below vets would eat me alive for saying that lol

[lethal plover]

weapon effects persisting after swapping is currently a bug

[olive ember]

the only use for warp charges is the peril resist so

[tacit fractal]

And toughness regen

[lethal plover]

someone else showed insta-kill purgatus with that bug today

[olive ember]

I'll bring it over to the vet channel reeee

[bleak sonnet]

my justification for my class rankings:

zealot has the full hp heal tech, which makes you invincible on a 90sec cooldown which is just crazy. stun nades are the second best option for clutch revives

psyker has infinite versatility esp with gun build, and can deal with every enemy type in the game solo. best revive ability with FS

vet: really good at taking out the most dangerous enemy type and bosses, but shoehorned into taking a specific loadout that doesnt really do much well in t5 aside from killing lasgun patrols

ogryn: provides nothing to the team really imo

[summer wind]

wtf ogryn provides morale support

[teal cargo]

ogryn good

[olive ember]

full hp tech requires there to be enemies, which sucks if your invuln gets procced by a stray poxwalker or the butt end of a horde event i suppose

[frail geyser]

ogryn coherency v good

[summer wind]

i respect your opinions, and will disagree with almost all of them

[frail geyser]

bull rush can stagger monsters

[lethal plover]

you know i may not agree with what you say
but I always enjoy people who make actual arguments for their stuff

[summer wind]

it's cool people have had enough experiences to have such varied opinions though

[vernal imp]

i see a lot of bad zealots purely because they rely on like, crit bleed blade build, without it they are nothing

[ornate hamlet]

Objectively I agree that Ogryn offers the least to the team aside from coherency and their shield but I cannot hate the big guys

[olive ember]

Also unless it got patched, Ogryn's uninterruptible stun is a lie, because they still get stunned whenever their armor breaks, which happens in like 2 hits on higher difficulties

[vernal imp]

always funny to see them charge to shotgunner horde and then get instagibbed

[bleak sonnet]

in my experience you're not popping your passive to random stuff unless you are playing poorly

especially on a zealot...

[olive ember]

I mean enemies spawning one foot behind you

[bleak sonnet]

usually i only pop once or twice a game

and when i do

i heal full hp

[summer wind]

you also never lose matches ever

as you are simply Too Good

[bleak sonnet]

weird take

i dont think i've ever said i dont lose runs

[sinful swallow]

Any recommendations on feats while leveling?

[summer wind]

nah i'm just saying that's the vibe i'm getting from the "playing poorly" part

played zealot to level 20, it usually procc'd outside combat

ie one guy from behind

when i'm scratching my face or smth

[candid temple]

just press block when you hear the audio warning?

[bleak sonnet]

typically if i am ahead of my team, and i have a veteran behind me

if an enemy spawns behind me

it is between the vet and myself

[summer wind]

yeah i guess i'm unlucky with vets then

i never really got much out of it, tbh

[bleak sonnet]

what weapon do u run

[summer wind]

most hp i gained was 70, which was from a bomber setting it off when i was trapped in a horde

[lethal plover]

solid formation can't always be maintained. and I would say the game really starts when shit hits the fan and dream formations are broken

[summer wind]

thunder hammer

[bleak sonnet]

that's probably ur issue then

[summer wind]

yeah agreed

[bleak sonnet]

im not sure thunder hammer puts out a lot of dps

[summer wind]

it's fun so i'll use it

[bleak sonnet]

to heal as much

never said u shouldnt

[summer wind]

thought that was about to be your point

[bleak sonnet]

but if you're hitting 1 thing

[summer wind]

sorry, bad mood

[bleak sonnet]

yeah u seem weirdly antagonistic ngl

[summer wind]

oh nah it cleaves

[bleak sonnet]

on heavies

[summer wind]

yeah i agree, mb

yeah i just spam heavies

[robust meteor]

should i buy this thingy YES NO

[olive ember]

its def big burst dps, like I believe on malice etc. you can literally deal half boss health in one hit

[lethal plover]

i have heard zealots complaining about thammer today too in damnation

[bleak sonnet]

see with my crucial roulette and axe

[olive ember]

yeah thats basically a god roll

[bleak sonnet]

im usually critting

multiple enemies ato nce

[summer wind]

it's good on bosses and it can knock down people which is pretty safe

[bleak sonnet]

so when i do proc i usually do enough damage in that situation

if i had a TH or dagger or smth lower dps i would take the movement speed talent

[summer wind]

maybe the problem is that it never procs in hordes because they're always knocked down

[candid temple]

341 isn't that amazing, but deflector, exorcist is

[summer wind]

the hammer + the unstoppable thing means everything on your screen within a pretty big range is just on the ground now

[lethal plover]

quite close to perfect, just buy it

[summer wind]

including shotgunners

forever

(if you keep hitting them i mean)

[midnight violet]

jebus i would risk heresy for that thing...

[robust meteor]

i was wanting to buy it. wanted some confirmation

thanks all

[random jackal]

I need advice on what voice to pick for my psyker. Playing a male.

Dunno which one is nice to Ogryn boys. I just wanna be nice to my Ogryn boys.

[robust meteor]

ill be running 29% block efficiency

[lethal plover]

Loner is best

or whatever the Asian-sounding voice is

[olive ember]

You either want deflector + exorcist or deflector + slaughterer on FS basically

[olive ember]

you mean the french/jamaican voice?

[lethal plover]

no idea yeah

[midnight violet]

meanbwhile ive got a fantastic taxe on my psyker, that i dont want to buy, but i totally would if i could give it to my zealot....dumb.

[olive ember]

I thought it was asian too hence I chose it and then my friend went "why does your pale ass character sound like hes from africa"

[random jackal]

None of them particularly sound 'asian' haha. The Savant is more Jamaican. Loner is.. German?

[tacit fractal]

Loner is hilarous

[tardy flower]

crazy german psyker is best psyker

[lethal plover]

sorry I was wrong
Savant

Savant is what I thought was Asian

[olive ember]

yeah no dont worry I thought it was asian at first too

[random jackal]

Leaning towards Loner because I heard it was p good, lotta clap backs.

[olive ember]

basically the three personalities are

[tardy flower]

medicae is for people, not dreams...

[lethal plover]

only Savant sounds like a chill person. the other two just sound deeply disturbed and maniacal

[olive ember]

crazy person who talks to voices, narcist, unrealistic optimist

[robust meteor]

psyker is of course maniacal. too...much...power

[warm spindle]

zealots are the new shitters of pubs

running in on heresy and complaining

[tacit fractal]

”I’m sensins fear, anger and foreshortened lifespans”
The subtitles don’t change but you still hear Loner speak
”No not ”foreshortened lifespans” I SAID FOUR SHORTENED LIFESPANS! Why are you not paying attention?! LOOK AT ME NOT THEM >:(”

[lethal plover]

many of them indeed just charged in, got fucked by a dog, and then complained in chat why didn't you save me

[tacit fractal]

Yuh

[lethal plover]

bruh we can't even get there

[warm spindle]

"I was the first to run in but the last to die" - A zealot in my most recent lobby, who charged 3 maulers alone

[lethal plover]

okay, maybe not that many, only a few, but it was so shameless I just remembered it too vividly

[fallow meadow]

I just meet one just doing that lol

[lethal plover]

to be fair there's also the psyker with trauma staff who keeps dying in melee and complain why didn't you cover me shit team

[vast zodiac]

nothing annoys me more than watching a fellow psyker stand there brainblasting basic zombies while we attempt to fight off a whole horde

[lethal plover]

bruh no one can cover melee for you in this game

[vast zodiac]

please be useful for once in your life

[tacit fractal]

Still learning I would guess for them

[vast zodiac]

either that or someone being very anal about stacks

to the detriment fo their team

[fallow meadow]

I think they are just too new to the game. No sane person will try trauma more than once.

[deep rivet]

i love playing with randoms who never check the backline for me so i can wipe a horde out instead of having to peril block kill a rager or two on my own

[midnight violet]

I have a question about a blessing. Warp nexus. criti chance based on current peril, up to 3 percent. stacks 5 times. does that mean it has 5 levels and i need to be at max peril to get 3 percent crit chance? or does it mean it adds more each hit up to 5 times? or...what...

[lethal plover]

there was one good trauma user I met in heresy endless today, but the map was not hard enough for me to draw any decent conclusions about his importance

[frigid pond]

trauma from my understanding is decent

its not...great, cuz its too costly peril wise

[tacit fractal]

Trauma alt attack go boom

[frigid pond]

but i've seen some valid arguments for it and seen some decent users

[fallow meadow]

Yeah, in random you will see everyone else just run to the front and fight what they saw and never turn their head back.

[plush cipher]

Trauma psyker =

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[tacit fractal]

That’s nice to see other than the assfucking of voidstrike users

[deep rivet]

it seems okay for blasting a horde apart if you see it coming but it does cost a shitload of peril. at least when i played at t2 with it the first time i got one. could only charge up alt fire like twice before having to quell

[fallow meadow]

Trauma is bad. The short cast range and high peril cost is killing it.

[frigid pond]

its really strong against elites from my understanding

[deep rivet]

just seems like other staves do it better

[frigid pond]

like it does a ton of damage to them and can stun more then surge assuming positioning lines up well enough

but again, its too costly to be worth right now

[deep rivet]

mostly voidstrike shooting a bowling ball of screaming psychic energy through a few elites heads

[frigid pond]

trauma is good against like, crushers and the likes i believe

but yeah void does that job well enough with headshots and cheaper peril so ..eh

[lethal plover]

you would have to communicate and ask people to cover for you. like I always ask vet to focus on gunman and zealot to use flamer. But the nature of hectic melee from heresy endless onwards, especially in desert map arenas, means there is no backline at all

[deep rivet]

i just force sword push crushers/marauders down on the floor and beat them to death

[deep rivet]

yeah true, it would be nice for randoms to sometimes know to watch other peoples backs but their own is what i'm mostly getting at

[bleak sonnet]

😉

[lethal plover]

what did you just delete

[bleak sonnet]

plans of greatness

[ornate hamlet]

i actually think the best group is one of each

class i mean

[bleak sonnet]

one of each (except ogryn)

[frigid pond]

im kinda becoming a x2 zealot x2 vet believer

as strongest comp

[faint walrus]

I've been playing with a group where I have a pocket shield ogryn and it's been pretty funny lmao

[frigid pond]

its kinda nuts, ive seen it and played it a few times

[dusty pebble]

4x ogryn no contest

[bleak sonnet]

4 zealot is best comp hands down

4 people who cant die?

ever?

[faint walrus]

x2 zealot x2 vet covers everything possible

[bleak sonnet]

4 people who can cluthc res?

[ornate hamlet]

i like how no one says 4 psyker in the psyker cord

[frigid pond]

psy is sad :(

[fallow meadow]

Psyker don't hate ogryn, only gun hate ogryn.

[ornate hamlet]

or any psyker LOL

[faint walrus]

Psy sadge

[lethal plover]

so what happens when a line of dreg gunmen from upstairs or arena mow you down?

[deep rivet]

i would prefer to be the only psyker in the group

[bleak sonnet]

you can equip a lasgun on zealot ;)

[lethal plover]

ok now that sounds more believable

[midnight violet]

I agree, but it feels like the devs thought 3 vets and an ogryn to carry mission items is all that matters for highest difficulties.

[bleak sonnet]

2 lasgun zealots

1 flamer

1 whatever else

ur set

[frigid pond]

i mean at that point 2 vets is better

[bleak sonnet]

everyone can clear hordes, everyone can kill elites

[fallow meadow]

Shotgun is pretty good.

[lethal plover]

yeah if you can clear zombie horde and trash gunmen the rest should be achievable

[bleak sonnet]

everyone has 2 lives

[frigid pond]

vet is pretty unkillable too

[bleak sonnet]

everyone can regen toughness on demand

everyone can clutch res with nades

[lethal plover]

without flamer it would be tough though

[vernal imp]

we try to tell ourselves that our class is great, but it's not THAT good lol

[bleak sonnet]

1 flamer is p necessary with that yeah

[faint walrus]

Psyker needs mad lovin from the balance team

[bleak sonnet]

my fastest damnation run ever was four zealots which is why i have that opinion

we all had daggers lol

[vernal imp]

also just had that bug again in the desert map, where that one area has its "spawns" start invisible, so we ran into a daemonhost that just popped ontop of us, on heresy, on a grim run

pain

[lethal plover]

I don't believe in hyperboles, but I have cleared damnation with 3 psyker teams. 4 psykers would be an astronomically low chance in pub matchmaking, I haven't seen one

[tired tinsel]

Even 2 psykers feels kinda rough

[ornate hamlet]

i wanna see class stats like how much of each there are

ive been seeing pretty balanced teams

[bleak sonnet]

usually when i see dupes its vet

so im betting on vet being at least 30%

[vernal imp]

guaranteed veterans are at least 40% of the playerbase

[tired tinsel]

The smoothest runs I’ve had have been with either balanced teams or vet stacks

[frigid pond]

vet is a huge part of the playerbase yeah

[faint walrus]

Having 2 psykers try and upkeep their stacks so they can actually use their feats sets the momentum far back

[lethal plover]

do people upkeep their stacks?

[vernal imp]

lolno

[frigid pond]

nah

[lethal plover]

yep

[orchid nest]

only at first as they are leveling until they realize

[lethal plover]

level 30 psykers just forget about warp charges

[faint walrus]

Yeah it just aint it

[tired tinsel]

2 psykers means less pressure on ranged shooters a lot of the time

[vernal imp]

12% damage is nice but not when it has awful sources, it's literally just a "oh neat, i did 12% more damage in a quarter of this fight"

[ornate hamlet]

unless you have las psykers 🙂

[bleak sonnet]

:)

[tired tinsel]

I never see those tho lol

[ornate hamlet]

theyre just glorified vets then

[lethal plover]

see above

[fallow meadow]

vet is also a simpler concept for player who were already familiar with FPS, so I won't be surprise.

[summer wind]

yeah :(

[faint walrus]

I only like 4 stacks so I can spam my surge staff

Das about it, damage doesn't exist tho

[vernal imp]

don't knock the gun psyker until you try it, sure staffs are great for 4+ but at 3 and below, great if you want to speedrun

[tired tinsel]

As a psyker, I’d rather have a vet as my teammate than another psyker bc psyker just seems to stack extremely poorly

[fresh reef]

hey, small request, does anyone here own Godefroy psykana hood?

[bleak sonnet]

i like 6 stacks on soulblaze ult build to kill entire hordes with ult

[vernal imp]

constantly sliding and sprinting, fast reloads

[bleak sonnet]

otherwise its meh

[sinful swallow]

3 is kind of an anything goes

[lethal plover]

u now on gun train?

[orchid nest]

which cost one is that? not logged in atm

[vernal imp]

i'm in the "gun meta for malice & below" train ye

[fresh reef]

one of the 110k ones

[robust meteor]

i'm in love with the melee combat too much to play vet. a lot of my runs i dont use my staff unless its really needed

LET THEM COME

[lethal plover]

how about damnation?

[vernal imp]

lolno

[bleak sonnet]

he's so close to realizing gun psyker is peak... so close yet so far

[lethal plover]

welp

[orchid nest]

Ah I don't then sorry. Only bought the styges 160kish one or whatever

[bleak sonnet]

it comes in stages

[vernal imp]

autoguns are fun but they're not good enough, especially since we psykers don't even get the best autogun type, the braced

[bleak sonnet]

you discover a good melee weapon... realize you never use your staff... realize you die only to ranged grunts...

[faint walrus]

So like, when are we gonna get our hair back when we equip hoods

[tired tinsel]

Psyker is prob the worst class to have multiple of on a team

[midnight violet]

most psykers have the tools for nearly any situation. if i get more other psykers on the team, i have a look at what they are doing and change my style to another niche. that seems to work fine. and every now now again you get those double triple BB's and 2 or 3 elites are deaded in synchronisation, which is beautiful.

[robust meteor]

i hear the opposite from non psykers

[vernal imp]

thats what you'd think until you have 4 ogryns and no one can kill anything

[tardy flower]

but then you play bowling ball staff and realize that you're playing a psyker so the meta be damned

[lethal plover]

before we move on, what's your difficulty and trust level we're talking about?

[tacit fractal]

Huh

[tired tinsel]

Lol for 4 stacks sure

[tired tinsel]

30 damnation

[vernal imp]

god antax? yay or nay

[faint walrus]

Oooh perhaps

[midnight violet]

i also find even if one psyker is just spamming block and stunning, that makes the other psykers room to wreck.

[robust meteor]

i would upgrade that to blue at least

[olive ember]

its not bad but having mobility of all things as its max stat is sadge

[lethal plover]

I see. I have had good luck with 1 surge and 1 void / purgatus. the 2 staves complement each other well.
it's like how 1 bolter vet and 1 lasgun vet can complement each other

[olive ember]

but yeah get it to blue atleast

[tired tinsel]

Squishiest class too

[tacit fractal]

WHAT

God-Emperor no

[vernal imp]

i'll see what blessing i get

[robust meteor]

you're saying psyker is squishiest?

[tired tinsel]

That’s the best setup if you have two for sure

[tired tinsel]

Hp wise yes

[vernal imp]

HEADTAKER

[lethal plover]

I suppose you have not been here the last 2 days

[fresh reef]

lul

[sinful swallow]

...yes?

[tired tinsel]

If you have deflector that helps

[lethal plover]

not even deflector

[frigid pond]

blocking with peril is kinda insane

[lethal plover]

peril axe

[fresh reef]

mfs really be sleeeping on peril block

[orchid nest]

my favorite part of playing current psyker is the opposite, being tanky af and picking everyone up off the ground

[vernal imp]

isn't headtaker on antax like omega good

[robust meteor]

dont want people to take this the wrong way, but psyker is massive when played to its potential

[tacit fractal]

Kinetic deflector is kinda wild ngl lmao

[sinful swallow]

It's nice, yah. But the thing is, you're still squishiest relative to to Ogryn Vet and Zealot

[frigid pond]

actually... the more i think about it, maybe thats fair

[stray cipher]

Gotta get an mp4 now of a psyker reviving someone in the middle of a horde with 10+ attacks bouncing off to show people da wei

[robust meteor]

like, are you standing there tanking hits?

not dodging and blocking?

[tacit fractal]

Zealot’s only saving grace is the too faithful to die for like one time

[faint walrus]

Surge staff has been my saving grace for clutch rezzes

[fresh reef]

psyker less tanky relative to vet? lmao?

[frigid pond]

vet is pretty tanky with the level 30 talent

[sinful swallow]

Since the toughness change? Yah. Vet stupidly tanky

[vernal imp]

i'd have had one if my geforce thingy worked, but i revived an ogryn while being shot by 3 reapers and 2 shotgunners and a bunch of shooters, defensyker is nutty

[bright cipher]

The best damnation loadout for pyskets is Antax/Surge and anything else is roleplaying

Simple as

[lethal plover]

tanking huh

[frigid pond]

actually yeah, the more i think about it

even with everything psy has, everyone else has better survival skills

er, talents i guess

[vernal imp]

it really helps deflector FS that it has unlimited dodge cap

[lethal plover]

not vet. I play vet

[frigid pond]

i mean same?

[olive ember]

camo vet doesn't rly need survival skills

[frigid pond]

the level 30 talent is pretty insane

[olive ember]

just stand still and everything goes around y ou

[faint walrus]

Camo vet is hilarious

[frigid pond]

this is also true

[tired tinsel]

I still haven’t gotten good rng for deflector

[lethal plover]

60 percent toughness regen, is just one tap in damnation from mob

it's basically not there

[frigid pond]

eh

[ebon wigeon]

ingame, what are the little icons before our names mean, why do they have colors, and what does it mean when they go black?

oops wrong channel

[tacit fractal]

I wish I had recordings of me going ape wild carrying an ogryn and zealot in damnation and heresy while playing with Psyker and using the lesser greatest talents on them

[frigid pond]

hell im wondering that too ^

[cyan notch]

i always wondered why aggro was on me more than vets

[frigid pond]

i know the icons themselves are ur class

but whats with the colors

[cyan notch]

turns out all of them were just standing there

[orchid nest]

the colors are your ping color when you use the waypoints

[lethal plover]

colors are random, to mark out scoreboard (who kills what)

also pings

[frigid pond]

ive had the same color as someone before though

can that just

[tired tinsel]

Honestly that kinda sucks for their teammates too bc they have more toughness to deal with the ranged dmg

[frigid pond]

happen?

[lethal plover]

shit rng

[orchid nest]

yeah lol