psyker-class

[long wharf]

the guy I'm with in chat 10 has an Ogryn alt, and if you're willing to help on your Ogryn, we can help you with pick n mix (which is what I'm trying to get as well)

[olive ember]

This is the burn stack I have on one full charge of purgutus against a mauler using this staff

[supple skiff]

The line about psykers needing help and not being hunted, hits

[olive ember]

standard purge staff build

[supple skiff]

My only problem with the background is the heavy German accent lol

Bit much

[ornate hamlet]

oh so yeah the dot is based on the burn number

[summer wind]

30~ thousand years in the future

[ornate hamlet]

cause your burn is low

[summer wind]

accents will remain

apparently

(as in the same ones)

do you have any idea how long it took for me to realize that american accents exist

[paper trail]

the burn damage is actually based off your damage the amount of stacks and how fast it applies them is based off your burn

[restive slate]

Angry German is my spirit animal lol

[summer wind]

my psyker sounds like a concerned mom sometimes

[ornate hamlet]

just watch hugh laurie as house to see the difference

[loud violet]

why ascendant blaze?

[summer wind]

and is also insanely passive aggressive at times

it makes me so sad

i wanna be nice ;(

[lethal plover]

because it burns?

[olive ember]

its the 10% chance to gain warp charge, if you running it with quell bug then yeah it would change

also

[olive ember]

this is the ascendant blaze burn damage after 6 stacks

[sharp oasis]

what you mean ?

[summer wind]

hey peter

[restive slate]

[Mad/Pained Laughter]

[olive ember]

ascendant blaze gives 10% chance to gain warp charge if something dies to soulblaze, and the purge staff dot counts as soul blaze

so in like a horde even where you are spraying your flames all over the place its basically free warp charges

which pairs well with the peril resist at lvl 10 for 36% peril resist

[lethal plover]

it won't kill elites.
but it will kill the trash

[sharp oasis]

i mean, the bug part x)

[summer wind]

all of the trash

[loud violet]

so 10% warp charge from using the actual 'ult'?

[olive ember]

well if things die to the ult then yes as well

[summer wind]

oh no

[loud violet]

But where else do you get soulblazes from

[summer wind]

oh thank god

i got 3001 for a sez

[loud violet]

since the staff doesnt count

[summer wind]

it do tho

not the direct attack

but the lingering dot

[restive slate]

I wonder if you could do the same with flames in Vermintide where you just quickly apply dot across the screen without focus burning

[loud violet]

I was just in the slaughter-house-thingy

and I didn't get a single proc

[olive ember]

the dot damage from the staff counts so basically make two passes at the horde with the flame and then let the dot kill em a second later

[summer wind]

it's supposed to work

maybe it's bugged rn or for you or something

but it's worked for me in the past

[loud violet]

i'll check tomorrow

3 am now

must sleep

[supple skiff]

Seems like a lot of hoopla just to get a feat to work

[olive ember]

got two stacks from one full charge in the meat grinder

[summer wind]

on paper, yeah

[olive ember]

and these enemies aren't even that densely packed

[summer wind]

that's psyker though

but in reality, you can just mouse over a crowd while firing your staff

then u good

i actually run this with my purge staff

[olive ember]

this time I got 3 so yeah

[summer wind]

probably bad, but it's yet another source of warp charges

so i'm sure to always be full

[olive ember]

you can imagine against an actual horde at high difficulty you can maintain stacks easily

[spare niche]

i run this with surge force staff

any other things i could change?

[olive ember]

i will say that running purge its prob more useful to get 6 stacks of BB over kinetic flayer, which is mostly used on void and surge precisely because they don't/can't use ascendant blaze

[summer wind]

yeah most likely

it's just kinda satisfying

[olive ember]

if you can get used to the movespeed decrease switch mind in motion to peril blocking

[supple skiff]

I run voidstrike and force sword only feats I really see any real benefit from are the ones that give toughness on war kill and mind in motion

[summer wind]

the "plop" every now and then

[ornate hamlet]

id run the top talents at the 2nd and last tree for the increased damage and to quell peril faster

[olive ember]

basically you can't quell with hands now, only with sword or staff but peril blocking makes your blocks amazing

[restive slate]

Surge doesn't take much to be decent but Purgatus becomes amazing with right perks and blessings ...at least I was told that

[ornate hamlet]

thats just my preference though cause i blow up occasionally lol

[summer wind]

yeah pretty much

purge takes a lot of setup

and knowing how it works help you use it

[olive ember]

mind in motion is mostly comfort tbh, peril blocking is alot more useful when situations get dicey

[summer wind]

voidstrike you just kinda

shoot

[restive slate]

Haven't found my groove with void yet tho

[olive ember]

also with a good staff you basically theres virtually no difference between quelling with and without mind in motion

[spare niche]

mind in motion is really good to keep you moving and positioning better

which is what i like

[supple skiff]

I’ll switch once I find a sword with the perk that blocks ranged

[summer wind]

mind in motion is good with bad gear

[supple skiff]

But for now it lets me keep pace and line up hordes for my voidstrikes

[summer wind]

peril blocking with a good force sword is insanely useful though

like, insane

[tacit fractal]

I’ve used Purgatus, Surge and Voidstrike all of them kick ass in their own role, Purgatus in hordes, Surge in stuns (and scab killing) and Voidstrike in multitasking ontop of great chokehold horde killing

I’ve used all of them on uprising to heresy with shitty versions and great versions they still are all great

[restive slate]

I still find it funny how everyone unisonly ignores trauma staff

[tacit fractal]

It’s either because I know how to make the game into a joke in terms of difficulty or because i’m lucky

[lethal plover]

I just ran with a guy who used trauma staff funnily enough
I asked why he used it instead of void
he said because boom boom is fun
I said most people prefer void
he said most people are basic

[summer wind]

that's fucking based

[tacit fractal]

It’s vomit inducing spesifically because of it’s low damage, slow AoE size increase and peril gain

[olive ember]

The difference mind in motion makes but honestly its not that much imo ( the 2nd picture is mind in motion I'm looking back towards the I after moving past it)

[fallen mortar]

Lol I feel like void is the boom boom of all boom booms

[supple skiff]

I’ve tried all the staves, can’t find a reason to not run void.

[restive slate]

Did he do well?

[tacit fractal]

I don’t like void personally anymore, Surge and Purgatus feel more useful

[supple skiff]

Granted always enjoy when a team member has lightning staff, cc is super nice

[lethal plover]

we cleared endless heresy without anyone dying once but I suppose it's not much at this point

[supple skiff]

But I find spamming the right click is useful for surpressing ranged lines

On void that is

[restive slate]

Four psykers with surge?

[prisma minnow]

it's at least nice there seems to be a general consensus that 3/4 of our class weapons are somewhat equal in popularity.

[tacit fractal]

Surge is just really fun especially when you get the hang on skipping the animation and speedrunning more than Zealot with dueling

[fallen mortar]

I was just thinking that, it's good that there are different viable ways to play

[supple skiff]

Surge wins in the style department over void though hands down lol

[prisma minnow]

I tried void and I will admit it's good but its just not for me

[restive slate]

What gun you use?

[tacit fractal]

The tierlist goes like most popular being Void, then Surge, then Purgatus (sadly) and then the most obvious one being Trauma

[lethal plover]

Can you link your recording? It would greatly help

[restive slate]

Surprised Trauma is even on the list

[fallen mortar]

you should, would be fun to watch

[tacit fractal]

I agree

[restive slate]

What about Infernus Accatran on Psyker? Cause I have that

[supple skiff]

Refuse to use guns. Brain burst isn’t good enough reason on its own to play Psyker and if I’m going to use guns might as well play vet

[lethal plover]

Yep it is always fun to see alternative ideas in practice

That's how the meta and discussions evolve

[ornate hamlet]

Kinda bummed out that we didn't get any announcements this week

hopefully tomorrow

week not over bud

[burnt python]

what is eng la

[tacit fractal]

The least suprising option is someone saying ”Use Recon”

When talking about gun Psyker

[fair kayak]

Poggers!

[prisma minnow]

What type of announcement?

[summer wind]

worse at it, but yeah it's doable

[hexed compass]

@fair kayak Good luck on the perks and blessings

[lethal plover]

yeah we already know psyker is god melee tank. it's the gun part that we want to understand in practice

[ebon jolt]

Ogryn shield works against snipers and other things deflector does not block though, doesn't it?

[summer wind]

ogryn has uh

morale support

i like funny ogryn man on my team

[ornate hamlet]

Like next steps, or anything on the missing content

[lethal plover]

hot take
you will find plenty in this channel who swear psyker is the worst or most unimportant

[south monolith]

Defelector not working with snipers is a reported bug. At least it was acknowledged without stating that it wasn't a bug.

[prisma minnow]

Ogryns are there to be nice to us psykers.

[summer wind]

yeah

i've not played ogryn so i can't say if psyker is better or worse

psyker and vet is not a fair comparison because anything and vet, vet wins

but i actually played zealot and found it not much better than psyker, if you can believe it

[tacit fractal]

That’s reddit and people who haven’t yet figured out how psyker works so they call it the least best and they constantly least useful

[summer wind]

that extra damage zealot has with the thunder hammer on bosses, it sounds great

[night marten]

1 psyker with deflect FS, 3 vets.

[summer wind]

but you're super vulernable doing it

[prisma minnow]

Psyker in the right hands is great. Though low level psykers or people not playing them correctly is probably the most painful

[lethal plover]

I don't really hold an opinion, since I have been able to clear with teams I thought would be hopeless

[tacit fractal]

Vet is stupid with that ridicilous damage

[summer wind]

i actually find brain burst good now, against crushers and bulwarks

after playing zealot to almost level 30

(on diff 4/5)

yeah zealot can kill them way faster from behind with a thunder hammer

but zealot is also in melee range doing that

[prisma minnow]

I was leveling up my vet alt and there was a newbie psyker running around with his hands out most of the map and I had to bite my tongue not to say anything and be that guy

[summer wind]

you can be in bumfuck nowhere doing it

[ebon jolt]

I'm stating that there are differences and that deflector is not a direct replacement for a shield.

[supple skiff]

I watched an ogyrn clutch solo on heresy rez the 3 of us, fought 2 mutants mano a mano and a host of gunners and a sniper. I’m not sleeping on ogryn players lol

[hearty yarrow]

I thought that psyker was good, but others simply did the job better?

[summer wind]

sometimes tur

true*

[lethal plover]

I understand Vet.
But what do you mean about Zealot being best?

[summer wind]

zealot best wtf

[lethal plover]

is it the knife bleed bug?

[summer wind]

?

[ornate hamlet]

i actually think ogryn best

[summer wind]

big man strong man

[ornate hamlet]

they have the best tools to clutch a dying run

[night marten]

actually think it's better, except not being able to plant it. you have way more staying power with deflect while moving than you do with orgryn shield

[summer wind]

strong man good

[lethal plover]

that sounds familiar

[ornate hamlet]

they can still be staggered

[summer wind]

psyker do have no grenades tho

grenades do be the revive people during a horde tool

[tacit fractal]

I’ve heard constant trash talk on Psyker and talks from Zealots saying ”Zealot best class” after seeing both kind get downed by a singular ass trapper and it’s tiring

[summer wind]

😔

[summer wind]

it happens to everyone once in a while

[night marten]

it's in aggregate

[summer wind]

this isn't cope it didn't just happen to me last game

[tacit fractal]

Ik

[south monolith]

Warp Charges>Martyrdom

[ornate hamlet]

it feels so good to push all hounds dodge all trappers mutants and snipers

[restive slate]

Worst enemy is that one pox walker you missed behind you

[ornate hamlet]

but it only takes one to fuck you

[supple skiff]

Idk lock a brainburst and dodge a corner works wonders in trappers

[summer wind]

trappers from behind when you're the last person alive are hell to deal with

because you have two options

turn around, using precious seconds to see them, leaving a horde behind you

[tacit fractal]

It’s not that hard to dodge a trapper in any situation except when you turn off your brain

[summer wind]

or dodge in a random direction for a chance to handle both problems at once

[tacit fractal]

Which I have done like 2 times

[summer wind]

vinriss i literally just typed a situation in where it's hard

[hearty yarrow]

Sure skill issue, but in terms of managing crowds, crowd dps, single target dps? Imo psyker is the least capable, and is only great in niches of dps

[summer wind]

do not disagree with me i WILL be grumpy

[restive slate]

Then knife users dodge off the map haha

[tacit fractal]

HUH

[supple skiff]

Option 3 perils explosion to go out in your own terms

[paper trail]

two trappers on opposite sides during a horde has wiped a few teams I was on

[ornate hamlet]

begone heretic

[lethal plover]

a skill you pick up as a gamer is that gamers will spend countless hours arguing what is better or best

[summer wind]

honestly psyker horde clear is really good

psyker has good utility too

[hearty yarrow]

it can be with voidstrike

[tacit fractal]

I’ve played games since I was 5

Ik :)

[summer wind]

psyker blocking is also the best in the game save for ogryn situationally

[ornate hamlet]

ive been using the devils claw its insane horde clear

[grim bay]

@tacit fractal so 2 months?

[summer wind]

dayum

[lethal plover]

ok I laughed

[tacit fractal]

What?

[paper trail]

lol

[summer wind]

lol

[restive slate]

Nice

[tacit fractal]

I don’t understand that statement

[paper trail]

rekt

[ornate hamlet]

LOL

[teal needle]

Psyker has horde clear, support, and tanking down well. Zealots have decent horde clear and elite/boss killing, Ogryns are great support and tanking, and vets are a bit too good at everything

[grim bay]

.

[summer wind]

yeah

[hearty yarrow]

In higher skill lobbies what would you say the role of psyker could be?

[summer wind]

gap filling

psyker picks up where others leave off, if you have an ideal team

which is never

[supple skiff]

^

[tacit fractal]

Oh okay, I’m autistic and ADHD so it takes a bit for me to keep up lol

[grim bay]

all good ❤️ just messing with ya

[summer wind]

psyker can do everything, and is master of very few

[hearty yarrow]

I feel their role as a dps is just overshadowed y others

[supple skiff]

Best class is voice comms and teamwork

[summer wind]

psyker is far from a dps class

[paper trail]

just one more hour the next shop is going to have the perfect item I need, right?

[summer wind]

you'd think so, and it's presented like one

[restive slate]

No worries all psykers are like that

[summer wind]

but psyker is a backup class

[ornate hamlet]

i think psyker with devil claw surge staff is perf combo. Can pick off ranged, stun big guys and deal with hordes

[lethal plover]

I probably would not trust a vet too much in melee. I'm always prepared to go rescue them once they are stranded.

[grim bay]

did anyone else notice when you kill monsters they dont drop loot?

[hearty yarrow]

Perhaps the intention has strayed from gameplay

[summer wind]

probably

but as of right now psyker makes a good backup class

you can do whatever you want

[hearty yarrow]

that theyre relegated now to being a support/gap fill

[summer wind]

and still be helpful

[tacit fractal]

Were they supposed to have deliberate drop?

[lethal plover]

you mean it's not canonical for psyker to be a frontline tank with an axe?

[grim bay]

they use to drop coin

[summer wind]

in canon psykers do whatever the fuck they want

[teal needle]

Psykers are good at everything but elite kill. Pretty much the only thing they're clearly outshined at. Only because the bolter exists.

[summer wind]

the emperor used his powers to appear larger and charm people

some use their powers to be stronger and punch real good

some use their powers to make coffee faster

and most, use their powers like we do in-game

[tacit fractal]

Elite kill they’re not great, on support elite killing they’re great

[restive slate]

Should have rewards in the mission end for killing monstrosities, more so for daemonhost

[summer wind]

daemon host should give you a big reward

[supple skiff]

Hounds and snipers all day

[lethal plover]

I see this as a "problem" (or blessing) with the bolter tbh

[sharp oasis]

which is hilarious, because they advertised the class as an elite killer

[grim bay]

Psyker is also #1 tank in the game. so the fact that they can do everything else well is pretty OP

[hearty yarrow]

their intention of being avoided feels boring tbh

[lethal plover]

bolter needs to be brought down a bit like having less ammo

maybe hot take I don't know

[tacit fractal]

Idk bout that

[solid lake]

Bolter is fine something else needs to be buffed

[tacit fractal]

Played Vet and it’s fine

I think it’s just Sharpshooter in general

[ornate hamlet]

bolter is balanced

[tacit fractal]

Big wacky

[ornate hamlet]

its so fucking slwo

lower ammo would make it have like 5 bullets

[supple skiff]

Bolter is stupid strong but reloads like a glacier unless you animation cancel

[restive slate]

Waiting for when Bolt Pistol gets introduced so Psyker can be Bolter gang too

[supple skiff]

Fair I think

[lethal plover]

it is slow. and you can't waste it on all trash shooters.
but maybe there is an argument that it is still quite too good in comparison.

[warm spindle]

So apparently the 5-15% on force weapon attack talent applies to force swords normal attack damage if you stack it with max burst you can get 33% damage

[lethal plover]

it can magdump into a wall of crushers and bulwarks and they are gone

what else does it?

[tacit fractal]

My personal experience is that Psyker is amazing at horde clearing, tanking and damage support against mfs that Vet can pop off after or someone else, his kit feels satisfying to use in multiple occasions and all I want to see it like a 5-10 second duration for Warp Charges and I will love the Archetype even more

[summer wind]

you're comparing 4 people to a single person

[ornate hamlet]

i feel ranged weapns should only be for taking out ranged enemies cause theyre the biggest problems in higher difficulty. Crushers and all that any melee can be dealt with easily in melee

[restive slate]

4 people with boltguns

[summer wind]

yeah except the one person is doing the job of 4 people so the other 3 can do something else, which is the problem

the problem is exactly that

you do what you usually need 4 people to do, with 1

on T4/T5 that's insanely valuable

[supple skiff]

How much ammo is available if your magdumping bolter tho

[summer wind]

too much

yeah, it has a niche

[lethal plover]

yeah, when there is no bolter, I CC with surge to open up bulwarks so that zealots can chain them down. It's okay, not the biggest problem in the world. But bolter does such a good job (in relative comparison) that you have people complaining here endlessly that psyker has been overshadowed

[summer wind]

bolter is pretty damn strong

[supple skiff]

Legit wouldn’t know, haven’t picked up ammo since level 5 lol

[restive slate]

What about brains AND bolter?

[ornate hamlet]

psykers looking for ammo OMEGALUL

[summer wind]

running out of ammo is pretty rare

[kindred edge]

Any tips for somebody coming to psyker from ogryn?

[restive slate]

Psyker: GRENADE!

[summer wind]

I NEED THAT!

[cyan notch]

use revolver

[summer wind]

yeah revolver is the best psyker weapon

trust us we would never lie

[restive slate]

I wonder if anyone uses laspistol

[summer wind]

dude i only play T4/T5

[supple skiff]

I’d trade brainburst for 3rd slot revolver lol

[teal cargo]

man had to carry like lvl 9s in Heresy 👀

[tardy barn]

Need some good psyker drip send help

[lethal plover]

frontline with mk 5 axe and peril block (kinetic deflection) if you want to meme as psyker tank

[ornate hamlet]

Build toughness or health on psyker?

[summer wind]

i do toughness because you regen it so much

[carmine raptor]

Lol

[restive slate]

Hmm

[summer wind]

chip damage was changed

[supple skiff]

The battle lines are drawn

I’m team toughness

[carmine raptor]

FIGHT!

[pine topaz]

@lethal plover does it only work with axe or any weapon is ok ?

[restive slate]

Darktide: Civil War

[kindred edge]

Lmao. Ogryn 2.0

[carmine raptor]

I go for stamina in damnation

[austere burrow]

Do you have a video of this

[summer wind]

don't get hit by ranged attacks lmao

[teal cargo]

Idk sometimes things bleed through to health

[lethal plover]

only 100% toughness prevents health damage right?

[summer wind]

use your brain

ez

[supple skiff]

Only breaking tier 4 tho so my opinion isn’t worth much lol

[summer wind]

dead serious, skill issue

i mean i can't really prove it to you

but also fuck you :(

but yeah i prefer toughness

[carmine raptor]

It would matter @summer wind , arguing with him is pointless.

[summer wind]

yeah i don't really plan to

[ornate hamlet]

I play heresy and might go above, so idk whats bettter to invest in

[lethal plover]

it is a combination of peril block and mk 5 axe's stupid push attack that cleaves through everything
well my axe is shit but you can get perks that gives ignore mass

[summer wind]

lemme post my point in a sec

[carmine raptor]

All the damnation is all that matters elitism stuff gets old

[summer wind]

this + purge staff + horde

[kindred edge]

Sheesh. Y'all way grouchier in here than ogryn chat

[summer wind]

infinite toughness regen

[ornate hamlet]

psykers are bipolar

it gets grating

[restive slate]

All psykers are grouchy by nature

[summer wind]

yeah it does

[carmine raptor]

Yeah, I main vet and spend almost all of my time there. It seems to be where actual conversations are most likely to happen.

[lethal plover]

hold on if gamers are not comparing their dicks what are they doing on discord

[summer wind]

Clearly, You don't own an air frier

Not that you would want one

[carmine raptor]

I only use BB and clear damnation solo, come at me bro!

[summer wind]

Because you only microwave your meals.

Ok buddy

[kindred edge]

Air fryers are fucking magic fr

[austere burrow]

I think it's funny when ppl flex difficulties

[carmine raptor]

What is happening here?

[summer wind]

i don't know

[austere burrow]

To prove their points

[dim compass]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-symbol-warhammer-warhammer40k-chaos-gif-15414565

this chat rn

[summer wind]

OH GOD

[carmine raptor]

Air fryers are just convection ovens, right?

[summer wind]

dude how do air friers even work

[austere burrow]

Game is easy enough that you can do a bunch of stuff at T5 and be fine

[pine topaz]

somebody post a vid getting hit with a basic attack in damnation , we will have the answer on who's the winner here

[kindred edge]

Pretty much, yeah

[summer wind]

it's she, chucklefuckle

[kindred edge]

Both of y'all just cut it out, damn.

[dim compass]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-let-them-fight-fight-ken-watanabe-watanabe-gif-5687182

[summer wind]

i am enjoying myself on the internet

but i will stop replying if you do actually want me to

[hot garnet]

[carmine raptor]

I don't think she's trying to convince you of anything, when people ask questions and you answer "only this everything else is trash" you're not really helping

[summer wind]

holy fuck lmao

[ornate hamlet]

anyone clear endless horde damnation with both grimoires yet

[austere burrow]

Hell no

Lmao

[paper trail]

why

[dim compass]

serious question, is the penance to do 90% damage with brain burst bugged?

[restive slate]

Females? Online?! That's a myth!!!

[carmine raptor]

Especially when I can almost guarantee @summer wind can do damnation with toughness, just like I do it with stamina. What an odd hill to die on

[austere burrow]

I'm sure someone has though

[paper trail]

I strictly only play sedition

[sharp oasis]

lmao

[dim compass]

thats rule number 1 of the internet there are no girls

[summer wind]

stam 🙏

there's really not any bad options for curios tbh

it's preference

[static epoch]

stam curios all give +1 stam

[austere burrow]

Ya I agree

[static epoch]

even the +3 ones

[carmine raptor]

I stack wounds and corpse hop. I do whatever I want

[sharp oasis]

give malice a shot, its not hard.
it just requires abit of getting used to idioticy on the parts of your teammates

[austere burrow]

On preference

[summer wind]

wtf really?

[paper trail]

+60% chance to get curios a loot drop is the best combination

[static epoch]

in psykanium yes

[dim compass]

wrong, getting a GotE curio with +xp is useless

at level 30

[restive slate]

Been looking for stam regen so bad but rng has been bad, used it a lot in Vermintide

[summer wind]

got me there

[static epoch]

i prefer toughness for replenishable health

[supple skiff]

They need to fix itemization this shop refresh meta can go somewhere

[austere burrow]

I need to try toughness again

[kindred edge]

Tf do you mean by this exactly?

[lament glen]

Accurate

[dim compass]

but toughness gets zapped so fast in 4/5

[austere burrow]

Rip honeybadger

[lethal plover]

what did I come back to.....

[pine topaz]

In t4, my 80% crit damage surge staff I can one shot the ranged packs fairly quickly with animation cancelling

[austere burrow]

Did that to themselves though lol

[kindred edge]

No sympathy

[dim compass]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-em-gif-21214757

[restive slate]

And not in the fun way neither

[austere burrow]

What's the animation cancel?

[static epoch]

you only need 10% stam regen to slide spam and keep it lol

[austere burrow]

QQ when fist closes or something?

[dim compass]

with the bully club

[restive slate]

When the Ogryn tells you to fuck off then you know you've doing something wrong

[undone badge]

does killing with force staffs count as ranged for melk, or do I need to go with a gun

[pine topaz]

@austere burrow just as lightning leaves fingers, double Q.... the damage of the lightning is frontloaded

you skip their stun animation, they just die

[timber shale]

found the incel

[austere burrow]

Oh wtf lol

[ornate hamlet]

Thoughts?

[austere burrow]

I thought it just canceled the damage

[static epoch]

i don't do this because i don't want to get used to it, probably going to get fixed 😄

[austere burrow]

Not does it all in 0.1 seconds

Good to know

[pine topaz]

yeah it's gonna get nerfed i keep telling my friends

[hot garnet]

[pine topaz]

coz i'm the designated ranged killer now

can so easily clear ranged packs in t4

[static epoch]

i mean go try it, it makes anything you can hit a cakewalk

it's not fun

[lethal plover]

it does deal damage
but it cuts short the stun duration

[pine topaz]

witha 80% warp resistance staff can also kill the ragers and most specials by spamming it

[stray cipher]

But dead is a permanent stun 😮

[viral palm]

Why playing as a psyker feels like a burden.

[austere burrow]

That's probably gonna get fixed

[true lake]

was i pinged or replied to in here or something?

[austere burrow]

But I'll use it until it does

[lethal plover]

yes it's a burden carrying the whole team

[austere burrow]

Thanks

[true lake]

i cant find the ping anywhere but it seems to point to this channel

[uneven sparrow]

The movie im watching is really scary guys

[viral palm]

Carrying the whole team with what.

[austere burrow]

Is max dps with that still spamming

[hot garnet]

top right of your screen if youre on desktop click this icon it will show you the ping/mention

[austere burrow]

Or should you charge

[pine topaz]

@austere burrow yes

@austere burrow i will do full animation if i need it stunned though

[lethal plover]

peril block axe and surge (sorry to people who have seen this a million times)

[pine topaz]

like the big guys

@lethal plover what perks recommended?

on the axxxe

[lethal plover]

whatever gives more cleave and block

[unkempt juniper]

what difficulty is this video

[austere burrow]

Yes charge or yes spam lol

[true lake]

i tried that and im confused because it doesnt show anything i didnt already see there

[lethal plover]

heresy but I can give you damnation too

[true lake]

so im just like wtf lol

[hot garnet]

probably was deleted then

[paper trail]

is that guy even using peril block or surge?

[true lake]

meh, must not have been too important if so

[pine topaz]

@austere burrow for horde, basic ranged, most specials, animation cancel and spam. For heavy armour dudes like ogryn, let the animation play out

[supple skiff]

Conspiracy theory: rewards for high level missions suck and will continue to suck until stuff like cheesy animation cancels are fixed

[hot garnet]

this is discord.. its never important

[paper trail]

oh yeah ok he gets hit like once

[pine topaz]

@austere burrow for ragers, spam if they're at a distance, but if they're close do full animation so they're stunned and pray for help

[austere burrow]

Lol thanks

[lethal plover]

peril block is used for reviving a lot. I have more examples to show

this is purge and force sword

[true lake]

i know when it comes to unarmored ragers the force sword's push attack fully knocks them on their ass

the armored ragers seem to act a bit differently

[pine topaz]

yeah but in t4 you get 2-3 on u at a time

u need friends

[true lake]

ye so it can be tricky in those scenarios

[pine topaz]

single rager, force block then fs special it

i'm not sure if it one shots on t4

[austere burrow]

I'm usually pocketing my zealot

[true lake]

i havent tried using the fs special on them but i know it can one shot maulers

[pine topaz]

also... don't animation cancel on the BOMBER...

[austere burrow]

Not on t5

[pine topaz]

you need to push him back with a full lightning, then shoot him

[austere burrow]

Unless there's a good roll that let's you do it

[pine topaz]

animation cancelling suge on him doesn't kill him quick enough

[lethal plover]

heavy attack on flak armor part can oneshot on damnation with good rolls on FS iirc

[austere burrow]

Oh okay

[lethal plover]

but 2hits aren't too bad

[austere burrow]

I guess you need +flak

[true lake]

i mean even a 2 hit is still pretty good imo

[austere burrow]

With 2 hit you're probably better off cc'ing it for someone else

[lethal plover]

besides you often have a team around

[austere burrow]

With 1 hit you might as well delete it

[true lake]

even knocking it on its ass is enough to give you breathing room to finish it off or someone else to do something

[pine topaz]

yeah i gotta try if ragers get one shotted in t4

[thick carbon]

This ledge achievement is actually making me want to rip my hair out

[true lake]

the push people off a ledge?

[thick carbon]

Yeah

[lethal plover]

the damage isn't a problem
It's more that the force sword special can give you tunnel vision, and you get hit by trash or something

[thick carbon]

The best ive got is 6

[true lake]

they made it way easier, you just have to push 7 off at a time now

[pine topaz]

it got reduced to 7

[lethal plover]

or the special lands on trash

[austere burrow]

I got it accidentally yesterday

I think it was a glitch

[thick carbon]

ik but I cant even get my allies to stop killing the zergs

[tall mesa]

it's "i discovered the block button and fire one within each useless blank hit i can so i look professional"

[austere burrow]

I just shot lightning in a room and I got the achievement

No actual drop anywhere

[pine topaz]

i got it the day they released the patched, and i didn't even do anything... i think it banked my previous attempts when i tried to do the 20

[true lake]

i find it easiest to do on the mission where you have to interrogate all the stacks at the end part before going into the central stack with the two bridges

[austere burrow]

Wish I recorded it

[true lake]

line a bunch of the enemies up on a bridge then do a sort of angled force push to push them all off the side of it

they sort of charge the bridges anyway

[thick carbon]

There's a few good ledges, but every time im always unlucky

[lethal plover]

this is damnation if you wanna see, but just the same really

[thick carbon]

Like, 2hp trying to kite a group into the right angle

[tall mesa]

the animation keep you from moving.

[true lake]

another good spot is that forge mission in the big circular area with lava, lots of good places to push them off around that circle

[thick carbon]

Its just annoying. If the push actually pushed instead of just knocking ppl down it would be much better

[true lake]

yeah it can be very iffy

[static epoch]

spamming force push is great for saving someone that is struggling with a horde

[true lake]

im just glad they lowered it from 20, 20 felt nigh impossible no matter what ledge you went for

[austere burrow]

Chasm logistratum is the easiest spot imo

Because it's right at the start

[teal cargo]

you ever feel like your team is just kiling none of the specials 👀

[tall mesa]

if hordes are a problem hire a zealot or play purgators.

[static epoch]

cool i'll do that every time i play from now on

[teal cargo]

yea purg staff is no joke

[static epoch]

will that give me control over the players that join my games?

[true lake]

purgatus is pretty good at what it does, just sacrifices a lot of your ranged ability sadly

[tall mesa]

you have none all of them are clueless vets

[thick carbon]

Also people never read text chat or even respond to my voice when I ask them not to kill groups :/

[lethal plover]

what is useless blank hit?

[tall mesa]

a light attack random body shot, usually displayed in white.

[tall mesa]

crits are yellow

[lethal plover]

hmm? I'm not sure I see the problem. I was just playing on autopilot.

[remote tusk]

Any blessings or stats to aim for with the antax axe?

[lethal plover]

I am cleaving trash not doing much

[bleak sonnet]

damage

[true lake]

anything that makes the axe do more damage, especially crits

[tall mesa]

oh my bad i thought someone was displaying some OP new tech. and i was a little bit upset that it was nothing special at all. sorry

[teal cargo]

whaa

[austere burrow]

Crits on antax?

[teal cargo]

its a block push spam, pretty neat

[austere burrow]

That doesn't seem worth

[lethal plover]

It is certainly new to the people who don't know psykers can tank like that

[remote tusk]

Found this in the shop

[teal cargo]

Yeaa I didn know that haha

[true lake]

i thought antax did a lot of crit damage? unless it works different than the other axes

im not really an axe user lol

[austere burrow]

380 👀

[teal cargo]

380 👀

[true lake]

definitely grab that axe

thats got some amazing stats lol

[austere burrow]

It doesn't have high crit chance so I'd think that it's not reliable

Math could prove me wrong though

[lethal plover]

the only thing I fear is that this channel is memeing axe psyker so hard it might even get nerfed

[bleak sonnet]

gun psyker > axe psyker

[true lake]

idk i feel like force sword is more powerful with what it does

[tall mesa]

what do you think is memesque with axes ?

[lethal plover]

like people are just sharing good ideas but who knows how it will be taken by the devs

[bleak sonnet]

if its anything like vt2

everything fun will be gutted

and you will be shoehorned into one build

its just a matter of time

[true lake]

well it isnt like that currently from what i can see

lots of variety and different builds that are good at different things

[bleak sonnet]

i beg to differ

any time i mention something offmeta for psyker i get hard flamed

[tall mesa]

well everyone is praising the 10% BB proc and i find it sucks gigantic dicks.

[bleak sonnet]

by about 20 people at once

[lethal plover]

I think the intention of the devs, is to make melee combat more of a thinking game.
Like they nerfed knife dodging at launch date, to promote alternative and non-repetitive gameplay.
The axe is rather, well, effective by being repetitive.

[true lake]

like bruh you are literally a gun psyker, even if its hard to believe that shows you clearly found a niche with it lol

[stark snow]

my sword one shots the armored ragers in t4 with special, but not the unarmored ones

[true lake]

its hit or miss, havent had the best of luck with it myself

[tall mesa]

no reason to flame someone who is actually trying things instead of reading shitty outdated guides

[bleak sonnet]

tell that to the surgebots

:P

not me

[true lake]

surge im just not a big fan of

[austere burrow]

My logic with that one is that the other talents aren't worth it

[tall mesa]

i really think it sucks. like i am convinced it's of abslutely no use.

[lethal plover]

speaking of which do you have a recording of your run

[true lake]

it is not as good at CC as i feel people are making it out to be but it is definitely amazing at stunlocking specials

[austere burrow]

So I'd rather just get brain pops sometimes

[lethal plover]

it would be helpful

[remote tusk]

Thanks guys. Bought and upgraded it. So just equip perils block perk and block attack right? I've not missed some crucial component?

[stray cipher]

it's a way to get warp charges without having to use BB assuming you use a high enough attack rate weapon

[white badger]

10% brainpop + purgatus is good

[bleak sonnet]

do you want to see what my game looks like

then answer the question if i can record or not

[static epoch]

you can keep your stacks with most weapons

[true lake]

does your game not look like everyone elses?

[static orchid]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395655272544075786/1049884680612220969/image.png

2400 aquilas to make my dude look dumb as hell worth it

[lethal plover]

I want to see how gun psyker works in practice, sure?

[bleak sonnet]

do you think someone playing on this

[austere burrow]

The alternative is having to whip out the hands to get stacks

[bleak sonnet]

beautiful fps config

records their games

LOL

[austere burrow]

And sometimes you really don't want to whip out the hands

[true lake]

god damn that lighting lmao

[bleak sonnet]

my pc is like 9 years old

[devout axle]

Just bought me this beauty. Thinking I might orange it.

[tall mesa]

unless you're into a one target scenario this is ridiculously bad. you d have to manage the 15s CD and the extra peril with that, as well as the randomness of the target ( let's not forget to mention that very little detail)

[true lake]

how the hell is your pc playing this game without screaming bloody murder

[bleak sonnet]

because it looks like that

[remote tusk]

You look like an alternative history character where the Confederacy had a space program

[austere burrow]

The secret is that you don't manage the cd at all

[lethal plover]

have you tried nvidia shadowplay?
or the AMD counter part
recording straight from GPU gives gigantic file size, but incredibly smooth video and the lowest performance overhead

[austere burrow]

It's just nice when it happens

[true lake]

thats my main issue with it when i use it yeah, but my main thing is the other two in that row arent really any better

[tall mesa]

this is exactly the same reason "Haste" is bad. it's a simulation dps talent

[bleak sonnet]

shadowplay drops my fps pretty badly

and its pretty bad to begin with

[austere burrow]

Like for me the choice is

6 warp stacks that I won't consistently have

Whatever the middle one is

[lethal plover]

well if you spot any videos of you or anyone with gun psyker you should share here

[true lake]

the middle one is trash lol

[lethal plover]

it's easier to understand in practice

[austere burrow]

Or sometimes getting free stacks

[bleak sonnet]

i do not consume darktide content]

so i personally would never come across it

[true lake]

like every once in a while getting free stacks is nice, sometimes it might even come in a pinch and destroy a special right next to you

[bleak sonnet]

but you're welcome to search im sure someone has posted something

[tall mesa]

same. best choice by far and i happen to have it very consistently especially with psychic communion

[true lake]

6 warp stacks is very hard to keep up unless you have a build specifically for it

[lethal plover]

I think you're the first known defender of gun psyker

here at least

[austere burrow]

I take 15% cd

If I ran communion I would take 6 stacks probably

[true lake]

i mean hey, if my man plays gun psyker and plays it damn well, all the power to him, i just have a hard time believing it due to my own experiences

[lethal plover]

I am open to even trauma staff enjoyers if they can share how they play it

[static epoch]

I feel like if I were to maintain my stacks by bb'ing trash or whatever is close, potentially dealing with that peril. Over the course of a game, the time I spend doing that could be much better spent on something else.

[true lake]

trauma staff isnt too bad, just voidstrike i feel kind of invalidates it given it does basically the same thing but with more versatility

[tall mesa]

also works super fine with quietude ( peril reduction), not that 15% on force weapons is in any way an option ( other than solo bosses) because you will just either stagger with surge or purge with 15dot damages) so it's the only way to go

[static epoch]

The less I care about my stacks the more helpful I am to my team.

[stray cipher]

Isn't Gun Psyker primarily just because you get get a high attack rate gun basically guaranteeing 1K+normal gun damage every 15 seconds with the talent?

[austere burrow]

More or less sums up how I feel lol

[static epoch]

Dive in the horde next to a zealot, nice way to get stacks 😄

[lethal plover]

15 seconds is actually quite long in matters of survival

[true lake]

ultimately the stacks dont even add that much extra damage to save you in most scenarios

[tall mesa]

you would for sure. concerning the 15% dmg on force weapon maybe i would consider it if someone nerdy takes the time to calculate a breakpoint for swords that involves this very inconsistent buff.

[lethal plover]

and it often procs on pox walkers

unless you pay close attention to flayer

[austere burrow]

I play without the peril resist and it feels fine

[stray cipher]

1000 bonus damage (free brain pop) every 15 seconds that doesn't impede any normal function?

I think any class would want a feat like that

[austere burrow]

Comes down to preference I think

[pearl sluice]

could someone assist me? Im curious how weapon stats work. Does warp resistance provide an overall buff or only resistance when using the force attack or staff attacks?

[tall mesa]

don't need anything for pox walkers.

push back, dash.

[lethal plover]

you don't kill pox walkers?

[tall mesa]

don't need to.

[lethal plover]

curious playstyle but you do you

[bleak sonnet]

i always push pox

waste of ammo to shoot

[tall mesa]

it's the easiest way

[austere burrow]

I think delerik means that you get ez stacks when they proc on horde

[static epoch]

the easiest way is to let the ogryn eat it

[tall mesa]

unless you re a vet and can HS the bastard quicly

[austere burrow]

Not that the bb necessarily helps that much

[lethal plover]

warp upkeep is a giant benefit yeah

but it's a competition between that and 6 stacks

preferences I'm sure

[static epoch]

levelling up on malice the amount of ogryns that just charge poxwalkers or put their shield down is so great

[lethal plover]

what's wrong with putting shield down

[tall mesa]

i don't encourage mimicing everyone else, but you ll find most player doing ( hopefully ) that strat. and exploding the pox while their setting up the push back will sometime kill them.

[static epoch]

blast radius

[tall mesa]

yeah

[austere burrow]

Pox walkers are zombies

[lethal plover]

exploding the pox?

[static epoch]

oh I'm tired, forget what I said.

[lethal plover]

you mean your team mates are exploding the pox, or you?

[tall mesa]

anyone. if someone is rushing the pox to push it back and doing the dash escape it is not advisable to kill it right in his face

[austere burrow]

Doesn't really matter who deals with pox burster as long as everyone is on the same page

[lethal plover]

are you perhaps confusing pox walkers with pox bursters?

pox walkers don't explode

[tall mesa]

uh that s is very possible

[austere burrow]

Lol

[worthy wasp]

Surge Staff em

GGEZ

[austere burrow]

True

[tall mesa]

and now i wonder... what are the walkers exactly ? the random zombies with no perk ?

[austere burrow]

Ya

[worthy wasp]

Everyone knows its being dealt witch, there big streaks of lightning highlighting it

[lethal plover]

walkers, groaners

zombies

every game invents useless names for zombies

[worthy wasp]

And poxbursters fall to the ground when hit by the secondary of surge

[tall mesa]

haha sure

[stray cipher]

Could just go with the OG names and call em boomers

[worthy wasp]

So you can even quick tap it into staff lights

[austere burrow]

It's so funny when you mash staff light on something and they get perma staggered

[stray cipher]

Did VT2 have a jockey equivalent? That's the one that seems missing in Darktide

[austere burrow]

Packmaster?

[lethal plover]

speaking of zombies, I guess genestealer cults are next. maybe in the 2nd hive city

[austere burrow]

Ish

[tall mesa]

sorry for interrupting then. i really did not expect a walkers topic xD

[stray cipher]

Oh shit, I just brushed up my 40k knowledge today, I know what those are now 😮

[static epoch]

Where's the story going? Our rejects going to become heroes?

[restive slate]

I wouldn't mind chaos cults of the other gods... Totally not wanting Slaanesh

[lethal plover]

pretty cool, eh, genestealer cults

[austere burrow]

Nah it's 40k

[tall mesa]

impossible

[austere burrow]

We gonna die

[lethal plover]

they can't coexist with chaos forces so probably need an entire new setting, like the 2nd hive

[static epoch]

I bet there's going to be an intervention and then they will all be executed.

[tall mesa]

maybe we eventually get saved by some grey knights or something

[restive slate]

I'm thinking the main chars are like Morrow, Zola etc. Our operatives don't matter

[static epoch]

Yeah that's a great point

[restive slate]

"saved by grey knights" heh, saved

[tall mesa]

well

can you hope for a better fate ?

[restive slate]

Join the chaos forces

[tall mesa]

hahaha traitor

you were the one ssending the transmissions

[static epoch]

I would find it very interesting if the problems on Tertium just gets worse and worse.

[lethal plover]

now that I think about it, psykers would be markedly less effective against tyranids, wouldn't they? The hive mind is crazy

[austere burrow]

Nurgle loves us

[static epoch]

And the rejects are fighting an uphill battle, never winning, feels like WH to me.

[tall mesa]

that makes sense

[lethal plover]

at least nurgle worshippers still have normal minds (well, compared to the hive mind)

[thick carbon]

I just knocked more than 7 ppl off ledge and it didn't pop 😦

[tropic halo]

Zola's completely unremarkable, but everybody loves Hadron. I hope more memorable people show up

[thick carbon]

ugly crying

[static epoch]

Try relogging a different character

Sometimes they don't pop right away.

[pine iris]

is the reload a killer? is the revolver fun?

[lethal plover]

people love hadron?

[tall mesa]

it says on "the internet" that nurgle beast's are actually very friendly things. so yeah. they re fine without us

[thick carbon]

restarting the game c:

[teal cargo]

idk couldnt you always pop tyranid brains?

[restive slate]

I want more Rannick though, he makes Amogus references

[tall mesa]

nurgle's beasts*

[long wharf]

okay, just did Pick n Mix on Malice

100% confirmed real

[lethal plover]

rannick has like one cool cutscene at 30

[tall mesa]

gg phoenix

[lethal plover]

though probably one is enough

[restive slate]

Isn't Rannick the narrator in the first cinematic trailer?

[tall mesa]

when he shoots the punk ?

[austere burrow]

*us

[lethal plover]

yeah

[tall mesa]

nah rannick is the one witht he ruggrats haircut

it almost bothers me as much as the void of pernolaity of morrow

[teal cargo]

man how do I do 3 missions without people dying 😢

[marsh perch]

Do staff attacks count as warp attacks for warp absorption?

[tropic halo]

aye, she has character. calls ya varlet alone. sasses ya. talks mad shit. everybody else also talks shit but it makes the most sense coming outta her. everybody else just feels like a bland dickhead.

[tall mesa]

morrow is, entirely a joke.

[teal cargo]

Morrow is biggest joke

doesnt even contribute anything

[restive slate]

Psykhanium lady is cool too

[tropic halo]

oh that lady's awesome

[tall mesa]

"standing there menacingly and pretending hard to put people into a military mindset by being rude and vain"

[tropic halo]

but she's stuck in the training room.

[teal cargo]

i like the pilot

[restive slate]

Put her in a titan

[worthy wasp]

Ez way to do "no one dies" weekly rq... hop into low density t1-t3s with a surge staff.

[lethal plover]

you know I'm probably wishing too hard here but I wish darktide would pump out content more consistently like other live service games

[tropic halo]

pilot

[lethal plover]

I hope the devs get rich and hire more people

[restive slate]

We'll see by this weekend

[tropic halo]

is cool but i wish she went against the grain and actually showed us some friendliness out of everybody to help her stand out some more

[tall mesa]

hahahaha devs are just devs. if they work really hard and make the best game ever, the CEO will have a new car next year.

[ebon jolt]

I think the revolver is most satisfying gun to shoot in the game but it’s crippled by its ammo, reload speed and chamber size.

[restive slate]

She plays cards with the operatives but not much else

[lethal plover]

well, capitalism and all that, but sometimes the leader can be wise and realize better game = better money in long run

[gilded viper]

I need Heresy Repair for last penance challenge. It’s pain.

[tropic halo]

god i wish we could play cards and drink amasec in a bar somewhere while forming groups to go play

[tall mesa]

sir. the emperor does not provide.

[versed glen]

Hey, heretics, mutants and all around scum. Is the Cliffhanger penance just kinda fucked rn?

[restive slate]

Yes, like DRG, add a pub to Darktide pls

[versed glen]

Cause boy let me tell you, we've thrown well over fuckin 10 fellas over the edge and that shit aint triggering

[lethal plover]

Yfw the pub opens a discord window

[shut fable]

STOP BOTHERING THE DEAMON HOSTS YA DAMNED SCHITZOS - messages brought to you by the veterans

[tropic halo]

half the time a veteran triggers the daemonhost in my experience

[thick carbon]

am gunna poke im

[lethal plover]

Stop shooting in the fucking direction of the witch -- concerned psyker

[sonic aspen]

they can pry it from my cold dead fingers

[worthy wasp]

Psykers properly built/played can tank em ez

[restive slate]

We need a Ration Bar in the Hub

[warm spindle]

vets literally lose 90% of all games

[feral stratus]

what sort of feat build works with the febreeze staff psyker?

[lethal plover]

Cool nickname

Febreeze staff

[warm spindle]

mop damage + broom build

[versed glen]

I swear to god I WILL alert the black fleets to you hocus pocus motherfuckers if I don't get some kind of answer

[feral stratus]

can you translate that

[kindred edge]

Would honestly be sick to have a 40k pub as a gathering hub

[shut fable]

Stop being a filthy psyker then - annoyed veteran

[magic hull]

veterans ☕️

[tropic halo]

what it feels like to chew five gum explodes from the perils of the warp

[uneven sparrow]

Not very sibling of you sibling

[restive slate]

It's not that I mistrust the Freak... ~ Zealot

[drifting hawk]

and be able to play poker

[feral stratus]

which feats are those?

[drifting hawk]

or whatever games there are i forgot the names

[warm spindle]

explosive smudge and warp janitor

[restive slate]

We can play arcade games in the pub, practicing minigames like events

[hexed compass]

@versed glen I got Cliffhanger just by doing normal pushes on the extraction run in the investigation mission. The one where you are scanning for half the mission. Just start on the pipe in the middle of the extraction run, let trash mobs fall next to you, push

[shut fable]

Ngl the pub hub sounds like a really good idea

[feral stratus]

.. those aren't feat names?

[uneven sparrow]

Vets and zealots pick on psykers bc they know they cant pick on ogrym

[restive slate]

Has the pub hub idea been offered to the devs yet?

[sonic aspen]

Pub won't work everyone knows the Zealots will fight the Vets for taking all the ammo

[uneven sparrow]

We psykers, we know our place

Next to ogrym

[shut fable]

JOKES ON YOU IM ACTUALLY AN OGRYN MAIN (just been working on my veteran cause I love the guard)

[uneven sparrow]

Ogryns are silent, only speak three word sentence

[drifting hawk]

i too am an ogryn main

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/karen-karening-intensifies-done-i-am-done-gif-16742218

Sir, this is a family friendly establishment, please leave.

[shut fable]

[thick carbon]

too many ogryns in this chat rn

[uneven sparrow]

They can stay get rid of the zealots and veterans

[tall mesa]

too many ogryns in my waterpark.

the lazy feed has never been lazier...

[shut fable]

Dem rations taste weird tho

[tropic halo]

hey, brutes are always welcome here

[thick carbon]

Youre right, all ogryns are good ogryns

[dim compass]

Damn right we are

[ornate hamlet]

kaldyn click ready

[dim compass]

not enough ogryns if yous ask me

[tall mesa]

for sure

[uneven sparrow]

I feel comfier with a level 2 large man than a level 15 shouty

[tall mesa]

and too many vets

[dim compass]

lots of spark 'eads today and yesterday

[bleak sonnet]

weird sentiment

i have found ogryns to be a real hindrance

even when played pretty well

[tall mesa]

they are often preventing their allies to shoot things and cannot contain mobs from passing through them but i still like to have one.

[uneven sparrow]

give them simple instructions and stay right next to them if they really are “bad”

[bleak sonnet]

idk

i'd rather just get a dif class

lol

[stray cipher]

I'm learning while leveling vet that Ogryns really like to block your line of fire T.T

[uneven sparrow]

Contrarianism in the Psyker chat as usual

[bleak sonnet]

my favorite ogryns are the ones that charswap to zealot

or vet

i've met maybe like 2-3 ogryns who i would play with again

out of choice

[tropic halo]

okay i support the whole gun wizard thing but even i cant support this opinion.

[tall mesa]

i would like if they made the game so that you don't get destroyed while you stay behind an ogryn. mobs are not only going throught but hitting you through them as well.

[tropic halo]

ogryns are credit to team

[bleak sonnet]

the issue ive found with ogryns is that to be played well they're kind of encouraged to do things they're bad at

[uneven sparrow]

Ogryns are like lovers sibling

Mysterious, and as good as you are to them

[bleak sonnet]

theyre designed to be a frontliner, but frontlining as an ogryn accomplishes nothing useful

[tall mesa]

yeah

[bleak sonnet]

the good ogryns use stubber from behind u

but at that point

why have an ogryn

[uneven sparrow]

To have a fun experience

[bleak sonnet]

they also generally eat up a lot of ammo for sub par weapons

[uneven sparrow]

🗿

[kindred edge]

Mind bogglingly incorrect appraisal

[bleak sonnet]

purely anedotal

[stray cipher]

I feel like the shield Ogryn should have a little back platform you can stand on when they're bracing so you can shoot over them

[bleak sonnet]

maybe i just havent run into very good ogryns

but the ones who get in front of our team tend to die fast do little damage and block shots

the best ogryn player i know actively advocates for... not taking an ogryn if you're trying to be efficient

[tall mesa]

you can still have a flamethrower or something like that but BB and shots are definitely blocked yeah

unless you have the full transparency but then you are vulerable

[mint burrow]

It is done...

[bleak sonnet]

another clone trooper

🫡

[tall mesa]

gg

i don't have the helmet yet

[uneven sparrow]

Friendship abilities for psyker and og I was thinking would just make this game funnier

Imagine if we could telekinesis his grenade box

[tall mesa]

there is the friend revival already xD

[craggy breach]

can someone tell me what a perils of the warp explosion is? is it when you blow yourself up?

[tropic halo]

yep

[craggy breach]

ty

[bleak sonnet]

holy psyker jihad

[tall mesa]

i m pretty sure we ll have a wound builds someday

[static orchid]

driptastic

[tall mesa]

build*

[craggy breach]

I've completyed every penance with zealot and now im on psyker duty lol

[tropic halo]

there's an ogryn with over like seven wounds or something

[tall mesa]

they have 4 base wounds and the usual +3

[uneven sparrow]

I hope youre ready to solo brain burst something

[tall mesa]

i find the hardest one to be going out with a bang

i never explode

well rarely 😄

[bleak sonnet]

that one also was my last penance but i did it in one try

[stray cipher]

I don't like the goggles enough to bother with Pick n' Mix x.x

[craggy breach]

the boss? I helped a dude get his the other day when i was playing my zealot and by help i mean i didnt do anything and let him solo bb the boss

[tall mesa]

you can't do pick and mix with a random party anyway

[uneven sparrow]

If you know you have guys getting you up exploding moves from panic to just good old combat tool

[bleak sonnet]

you can

i did all my penances except out with a bang with random parties

pick n mix pre nerf

[tall mesa]

i mean pick and mix means 5 oneshotable specials/elites. it's very unlikely they stay alive that long so you can do your thing

[stray cipher]

I'll wait till they nerf it again 😛 or maybe buff BB

Which may be never

[bleak sonnet]

idk man

i just hit ult

and spammed bb at random elites

and got it

xd

[static orchid]

just started using psyker, and i must say, bb needs a buff

[summer wind]

i'm curious how far i am from the pennance drip

[static orchid]

either make it hit faster or harder

[uneven sparrow]

I’ll have to do that truly not many of these are doable in regular play unless you’re a psychotic speed runner

[bleak sonnet]

ofc theyre hard to do in regular play

if it was easy to drip out

none use shop

:P

[summer wind]

the bb boss to do is plague ogre right?

[tall mesa]

i tried infinite horde damnation tonight and i think it's the only place i will happen to do it accidentally

and still i m not sure

[uneven sparrow]

(Who also hard carries)

[bleak sonnet]

any boss if ur good

[uneven sparrow]

Who are you you legend and why don’t I match with u

[bleak sonnet]

did mine on daemonhost

[summer wind]

beast just isn't really gonna happen

[tall mesa]

same

[bleak sonnet]

beast happens

[summer wind]

neither is daemon without someone who can tank it well

[tall mesa]

with an ogryn friend

[bleak sonnet]

daemon happened

[summer wind]

with beast i filled up my corruption completely twice before it got to 25% health

[summer wind]

how

[bleak sonnet]

skill issue then

[summer wind]

or arena issue

kited it as well as i could

so did my buddies

[bleak sonnet]

my friend did it on beast one try

on uh

the one map where u drop down

[summer wind]

i got it to 25% but got bored and said "just shoot it i don't care"

[tall mesa]

as for out with a bang when i try it purposely in random games i just die before the animation ends. and that makes me furious

[bleak sonnet]

and complain its hot

[summer wind]

pennances actively encouraging you to grief your team

very cool

[tall mesa]

well

the design was probably thought to be " get some help dude"

[olive ember]

Yeah daemon host makes MM easier than pick n mix it’s kinda funny

[bleak sonnet]

only one penance griefs ur team tho

[tall mesa]

but it ends up as " let's try this nonsense solo"

[uneven sparrow]

Essentially, or at least breaking a sense of silent rhythm

[bleak sonnet]

MM doesnt really grief anyone, just makes the match take longer lol

[summer wind]

actively choosing to not shoot the boss that is chunking hp griefs your team if you're losing

[olive ember]

Just need to LFG find an ogryn to help ya out

[summer wind]

and fucking it up can kill your team

[tall mesa]

it s easy

[bleak sonnet]

that's crazy, anyone on the team can actively say no

if you're losing

lol

[olive ember]

MM never was that big of a grief since your teammates could just shoot then boss to shut down the penance hunter

[summer wind]

the point is the pennance sucks

if they made it solo the boss full stop, i'd be cool with it

but brain burst?

[olive ember]

I mean all the penances suck imo

[tall mesa]

the ogryn procs the mobs by standing menacingly in front of it and the daemon never switches target soo..

[summer wind]

god that's boring

[bleak sonnet]

disagree, i think its a fun challenge that's not too hard, just a bit time consuming

didnt take very long to get it done with

[olive ember]

Cliff hanger is annoying pick n mix is rng and barely ever happens in a real game

[summer wind]

let me use my force sword, and i'll be happy

brain burst is just like

🤢

[tall mesa]

i did it 100% BB

[olive ember]

Out with a bang is literally griefing

[tall mesa]

it takes a little longer but it's safer

[olive ember]

I did too in a daemonhost

[tall mesa]

it's also extremely hard with quietude talent

[summer wind]

how does daemon host work better than plague ogryn?

is it squishy or smth?

[olive ember]

It doesn’t change aggro and is fairly squishy

So you can have a shield ogryn aggro it and then just brace into a corner

[summer wind]

so you just have a tanky person aggro it then

ah, yeah

[uneven sparrow]

It is but sometimes your team is tolerant of a repeatedly exploding Psyker

I like those teams

[echo parrot]

Emperor why

[tall mesa]

the daemon host just picks an aggrot o the person who wakens it and never swap to someone else until it's primary target is dead. so you put a ogryn with shield in front of it and it can last 3 days if you need 3 days to kill it

its*

[olive ember]

Yeah so it’s ogryn in corner psyker slowly BB and then your remaining two teammates watch front and back

[summer wind]

so basically the trick is get an ogryn and 2 others

[bleak sonnet]

daemon host is easy to dodge loop

and is squishy

[summer wind]

or convince your team to not attack it

while you and one buddy do it

[tall mesa]

yeah

[summer wind]

it's 4 up, right?

[olive ember]

Basically and then play heresy until you see a daemonhost which isn’t that bad

[tall mesa]

the others may have to deal with random specials proc and hordes tho