psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

I've cleared L5 with this

[snow dust]

That explains it, it's not the staff it's your terrifying barrage.

[safe mountain]

also the stagger range on it is gigantic when fully charged. Can stagger doggos too and knock back poxbursters when they don't bug out and gain push imunity.

[sleek hornet]

that run n gun is nice

[deep rivet]

terrifying barrage good

[teal cargo]

Using guns on Psyker 👀

[snow dust]

And run n gun lets you not be gimped while channeling.

[runic gate]

36% damage? Oof hope you get a better roll

[sharp heart]

Pew pew pew!

[ornate hamlet]

Tell me about it.

Barrage doesn't really do the CC work.

Because they're ALL flailing about on fire.

[tepid nest]

The current build I'm testing is a gun Psyker 😬

[unkempt juniper]

gun psyker is excellent and i will not have people badmouth it

also trauma staff is decent in heresy, just easily cleared a lvl with it, not as bad as expected.
void is def better

[zinc skiff]

Does the Blazing Spirit blessing still roll on Surge / Purgatus staves?

[sharp heart]

I never see a big difference in the CC of any staff with and without barrage.

[ornate hamlet]

Gun Psyker is fun. It's like going to an orgy knowing ONE person has an STD, but you're n ot sure who.

[deep rivet]

only thing i thought would be ok with guns is the chance to BB random enemies

[magic hull]

is this good damage for surge at full charge?

[unkempt juniper]

that is... not what i'd compare it to

[tepid nest]

It's viable, but it's not good. After spending a couple of days with it I was over it.

[ornate hamlet]

Adrenaline.

[sharp heart]

You sound like you know how to have a good time.

[lethal plover]

@snow dust suppression is only for ranged enemies. It doesn't matter all that much. I don't use it.

[ornate hamlet]

Want my number?

[tepid nest]

Difficulty?

[sleek hornet]

yall need cheeseballs

[runic gate]

UKRAINE

[unkempt juniper]

this is my gun psyker weapon and i love it

[sharp heart]

Sure. Which staff do you usually bring to the orgy?

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus, so I can make sure to blow everyone equally.

[sharp heart]

I just died, I'm actually dead now. Thank you

[unkempt juniper]

np

[sharp heart]

Best answer

[tepid nest]

That's the same base weapon I put on for suppressive fire to fill the gap while I charge in with my force sword.

[runic gate]

Not very Christian of you

[sharp heart]

I'm thinking the horrible things I can't type out....

[ornate hamlet]

My nickname is maggie, short for Magdelene. What were you saying?

[unkempt juniper]

i find the autopistol is better for suppression and the recon mkVId better for damage

[livid wraith]

thats your brain burst proc. Flamer/purg doesn't do shit against crushers. Im dumb you said surge

[lethal plover]

@snow dust anyway I have two examples on heresy endless for you. first is an easy scenario where you have a secure flank. Second is a more hectic melee one.

[runic gate]

Trauma staff tbh

[tepid nest]

Good advice,I'll try that.

[tepid nest]

Wouldn't work how I need it to.

[sleek hornet]

tbh

[ornate hamlet]

Can we come together and petition the Devs to rename this channel to "Psyker's Voices" so that we can say that this chat is what gives the psyker a headache?

[sleek hornet]

purgatus staff just cuz its aesthetic af

[tepid nest]

My gun Psyker build is really more of a melee Psyker build. Run in with the gun out, then deflect and push with the sword.

[magic hull]

no

[tepid nest]

I'll have it tuned as I find time to play, might be shit, might work as I expect.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-star-wars-scared-ahh-i-cant-even-gif-18842418

[sleek hornet]

yes

[delicate acorn]

Anyone know if teammates prefer zaps over voidstrike?

[tepid nest]

Yes

[unkempt juniper]

my Beloved says i shouldn't use the trauma staff. He says there are so many better options!

[sleek hornet]

thats a lie, my beloved knows purgatus is the way

[fast slate]

is there a reason to use the dueling sword?

[worn mica]

what level 30 feat should i be using? ascendant blaze?

[zinc skiff]

Being able to stun problematic specials / elites seems way too good to pass up honestly

[unkempt juniper]

speedweed

fastest weapon available

[pure rapids]

am sped

[ornate hamlet]

Mobility. And you attack super fast.

[fast slate]

ahhh

[lethal plover]

if you use purgatus yeah, with 6 warp stacks and peril resistance

[tepid nest]

I don't like ascendant blaze at higher difficulties. I haven't used the BB one, I like to push a lot.

[sleek hornet]

i dont feel like warp stacks working properly

i dont notice a damage increase in meatgrinder

[worn mica]

whats the build for purgatus?

[lethal plover]

with 6 stacks and purgatus, you just kill the entire horde

[unkempt juniper]

unironically with the duelling sword you dodge so far that if you have a horde in the open you litterally dont need to push, you can just dodge in circles around them and keep on attacking

[sleek hornet]

XD

[tepid nest]

Push helps the team, and I use it to push down ranged enemies more often than not. That or to quickly quell.

[unkempt juniper]

quickly quell?

does pushing quell and i've never noticed?

[tepid nest]

It reduces peril by like 50%

[unkempt juniper]

what

[dim cradle]

you mean the ult?

[tepid nest]

You're welcome.

Yeah, ult push

[vernal imp]

dueling sword has the fastest passive quell in the game

[tepid nest]

We were talking about level 30 feats

[magic hull]

yes, he meant a different kind of trauma staff. Something that is meant for you.

[tepid nest]

Wrong terminology, my bad 🙂

[sharp heart]

My wife gets upset at me when I Quell to early.

[sleek hornet]

ill give you my staff

[dim cradle]

Doesn't quelling make you last longer tho?

I guess it depends on how you quell

[unkempt juniper]

i thought you meant pushing while blocking with the dueling sword

got my hopes up

[tepid nest]

Mb

It's a force push in my mind, so I always call it pushing in comms 😄

[lethal plover]

or you can stand still as the tank

[sleek hornet]

you guys gonna make me peril warp 🥵

[lethal plover]

psyker is just ridiculous.....

[teal cargo]

I use Dueling swords and peril block

[lethal plover]

the peril block makes you a god tank

and reviver

[teal cargo]

lol wtf axe push attack?

what axe is that?

[lethal plover]

welcome to the biggest cheese in the game

mk 5 axe

[worn mica]

mk 5

thing is crazy good

[sleek hornet]

whats better for higher ranks

• wounds or + hp

[sharp heart]

Really need to give us force axes....

[tepid nest]

+toughness and +wounds

[zinc skiff]

Probably want at least +1 wound and toughness over hp

[lethal plover]

wounds for me.
we all die. it's just a matter of being man enough to admit it

[sleek hornet]

welll i was half on the right page

[lethal plover]

you don't want to be the casualty guy

because you swore 2 wounds is enough

[zinc skiff]

More toughness means taking more hits before you dip below the new 100+ toughness threshold to avoid chip damage (unless I'm not understanding how that works)

But, pretty sure that's how it works

[tepid nest]

I think it's % based.

[sharp heart]

Its % based

[tepid nest]

The more toughness you have, the less chip you take on hit 2 from melee.

[lapis sandal]

Doesnt Mk VIII axe have the same block attack as Mk V?

[agile hill]

RIP to all us folks who cannot use the Boltgun.

[tepid nest]

Or the more ranged damage you can eat.

[worn mica]

whats the build for purgatus?

[ornate hamlet]

Daaaaang.

[sharp heart]

Basically anything over 100% is good for ranged damage and to lower the amount of chip from a second melee hit

[lethal plover]

ascendant blaze, 6 stacks, peril block, peril resistance and psychic communion. But really you gotta understand the melee game with force sword (or axe)

[worn mica]

whats better finesse or mobility on fs

[ornate hamlet]

Finesse for dmg

mobility for gtfo

[magic hull]

Worth rolling?

[ornate hamlet]

Wow. Nice.

[lethal plover]

it's a toss. you will be relying on peril block, not movement so much. but latter could be helpful in some cases

[sleek hornet]

is deflect a random blessing for any psyker melee?

[lethal plover]

only force sword

[sharp heart]

I use FS more for its defensive and cc.

[magic hull]

never played daggeer but is this worth it?

[sharp heart]

That special attack is to show off mostly lol

[lethal plover]

what special attack

[sharp heart]

FS

[sharp heart]

Don't often find the time to stand there to use it. Sometimes though

[sharp heart]

Yup exactly like that lol

[south monolith]

FS special has amazing breakpoint potential.

[lethal plover]

it's used to kill off armored and surprise specials

[south monolith]

Its easy to open space around elites with voidstrike

[lethal plover]

force sword is mainly for survival but being able to deal with armored and mutants are nice

[sharp heart]

Most of the time when FS comes out its for a defensive or CC purpose and not to pop something with the special.

[lethal plover]

you don't have time to BB a crusher

[sharp heart]

yeah definitely

Would be nice if mutants could break the stun

[lethal plover]

it complements the purgatus since the staff only takes care of trash

[sharp heart]

couldn't...

[lethal plover]

if you hit the dog when it charges at you with FS special, you actually stop the dog

[south monolith]

Mutants high very high stagger limits

[lethal plover]

the timing is mostly luck (or skill)

[unkempt juniper]

there is no luck, only skill

[sharp heart]

and the dog not deciding to shoot off into the sky...or a wall...or into the Warp never to be seen again lol

[south monolith]

Dogs and mutants take 3x melee damage

Even a light FS special can kill a dog on damnation

[normal monolith]

The punch special combos directly into a full charge AP stab

the knife is actually kinda bonkers cuz it attacks so fast

[swift lynx]

This worth buying for 14k if I was going to use a surge staff

[sharp heart]

Hmmm it doesn't have great stats

But if you need a Surge staff just grab it

could be a week before you even see another one lol

[swift lynx]

yea not wrong lol

[lethal plover]

money is no issue

that said you're not max leveled yet so don't worry too much

[normal monolith]

if you don’t have a smite staff, nab it anyway

[sharp heart]

Yeah money becomes a none issue pretty quick unless you want to buy all the cosmetics.

[lethal plover]

you will refresh the staff once you get to rating 400+

[sharp heart]

Save your crafting mats too

[pure rapids]

you just showed us the same thing

[normal monolith]

do you have a surge staff?
if no? go ahead

it’ll carry you for a bit

[swift lynx]

yea my upload rn is at like 0.9 so i took a pic w my phone

then it finally went thru on here my b

[swift lynx]

ok ty

[stoic tendon]

why does it feel like purgatus doesnt cause massive stagger anymore on targets burning?

[normal monolith]

the main draw of smite is the crowd control

It absolutely wrecks ogryn specials

[lapis sandal]

Does the purgatus count as soulfire? For the purposes of ascendant blaze granting warp stacks?

[normal monolith]

Yes

[sharp heart]

Yes

[lethal plover]

yes.

kinetic flayer doesn't proc on tick though

[sharp heart]

BUT....it has to die by a tick of the dot

to count

[lapis sandal]

oh damn that's nice, always felt soulfire build was a little underwhelming as hard to get out the stacks

but never tried to purgatus

[sharp heart]

By itself the dot is underwhelming

[lethal plover]

Ascendant blaze is easy to get to 6 stacks. Use it along with already burning enemies from purgatus to wipe the map of zombies

[sharp heart]

With Purg you can technically get a loop going where you're applying 4 stacks over and over again with each refresh of your charges. So you could stack quickly on a single special.

[lapis sandal]

will definitely try it, thanks!

[lethal plover]

I hardly see the purpose of picking the soulblaze feat at 25 or 10

[sharp heart]

To spread more pretty blue colors

[hardy pelican]

Lighting or Blue Flame, can't decide

[lapis sandal]

yeah was more just ascendant blaze that interests me. Honestly not a big fan of any of the lvl 30 feats.

[lethal plover]

I wouldn't bother with it. if the 25 feat was changed to "all specials nearby" it still wouldn't be worth it.

ascendant blaze with 6 stacks is better. The 6 stacks is also for peril resistance and peril block

[vivid merlin]

soulblaze does too little

the concept is there it just doesn't work yet

[sharp heart]

I'm trying to imagine what a Pyromancer Psyker is going to be like

[swift lynx]

can u only see damage numbers in the training room? or is there a way i can see them when im in a mission?

[lethal plover]

the fire is to kill trash zombies. specials and elites should be understood to require something else

not in mission

[lapis sandal]

Honestly been having a lot of fun playing baby ogryn build with force sword deflect and peril block, so been using the BB lvl 30 feat just so i don't lose my warp stacks

[sharp heart]

They are really going to have to expand on the fire dot effects and interactions to make a Psyker based on Fire interesting and worth playing

[lethal plover]

though you can kill a bunch of maulers and ragers in the fire

[swift lynx]

damn why not in mission . rather see live then bots

[lethal plover]

it has happened often

[ornate hamlet]

anyone else randomly have their push ability fully regenerate after using it? i assume it’s a bug

[lapis sandal]

are you using quicken?

[ornate hamlet]

ye

[sharp heart]

Fully? No Do you you quyicken?

[ornate hamlet]

not 50%, full ability back

[lapis sandal]

quicken with warp battery is 75% cd reduction

[sharp heart]

Shouldn't be possible from my understanding. Even if you stack Curios with cd reduction

[lethal plover]

Someone killed a few elites maybe?

Video recording needed

[ornate hamlet]

yeah ive clipped it a few times

ill try and find one

[south monolith]

Cuios cd reduction is not worth

[sharp heart]

yeah I wanna see what you mean by 100% reduction on your cd

[snow dust]

A bigger purgatus staff.

Like, with extra skulls and gold.

[south monolith]

I believe if you have less than 50% peril it is prorated

[sharp heart]

I really hope they don't copy paste Sienna BW with an altered Corusc staff and call it a day

[south monolith]

Like cd scales with how much peril it clears, would have to test again since its just a theory I never tested

[plucky shuttle]

Just randomly scored a "Going out with a bang" penance by joining a QP mission and seeing 3 ragers line up

Gonna go buy a lottery ticket

[lethal plover]

Fucking idiots just straight went for the daemonhost at damnation lol

[sharp heart]

Business as usual

[lethal plover]

Man, so few people on damnation. Heresy is truly the great filter

[teal cargo]

Sometimes you jus wanna ooga booga

[ornate hamlet]

it just uploaded so the quality will be shit for a minute or two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8yO-_p2drA&ab_channel=48hz

but my F ability just comes back right after using it

[snow dust]

Must be a higher class of psyker than the rest of us.

[tepid nest]

Force sword feels like poo. My melee Psyker build is dead already.

[ornate hamlet]

it happens to me all the time

using the 30 talent that gives energy back based on ur warp charges

i havent had it happen with the other 2 level 30 feats, which is why i think its a bug

or haven't noticed* i should say

[lethal plover]

how about the +15% recharge on elite kill?

you have it?

[ornate hamlet]

nope

[lethal plover]

Replicate in meat grinder?

[ornate hamlet]

i tried

could not get it lol

[sharp heart]

Huh

[ornate hamlet]

here's everything ive ran

or was running in that clip

[sharp heart]

An unintended interaction maybe

no idea

[ornate hamlet]

yeah ive strictly been using quicken now because of it

id say it procs on like 30% of my wrath's

where it just doesnt consume it

[sharp heart]

I use quicken too when I'm running Void staff. Never seen my Ult come back instantly

Shhhhhh! Don't say anything to anyone!

We never saw a thing

[ornate hamlet]

haha the thought crossed my mind

ill try to clip it when it happens next time I play, but it happens pretty often

[sharp heart]

Is the game using the Toughenss regen speed as Ult CD reduction?

cause that would be...silly

[ornate hamlet]

🤷‍♂️ spaghetti code maybe

[sharp heart]

Take those curios off and see if it still happens

[ornate hamlet]

alright I'll test it a bit tomorrow

[leaden belfry]

well they did have it where losing health in verm grant you some cooldown on your character skil

[ornate hamlet]

when i first noticed it, i tried to replicate in the meat grinder for like 15 minutes and it never happened

so i'm a bit unsure still what causes it exactly

[olive ember]

wait

[sharp heart]

I have a curio with toughness regen but haven't noticed any weirdness with my ult regen

[keen pawn]

Is executor referring to increasing the Haymaker perk %?

[olive ember]

toughness regen affects ult cd? you joing right

[ornate hamlet]

no we're saying we are unsure

[sharp heart]

His ult is auto regen right after he uses it

Trying to figure out what would cause that

[lethal plover]

I also once got an inexplicable reload animation skip for plasma. no it's not the feats, and I can't replicate it consistently either
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/417691784848736258/1045969131008176188/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2022.11.26_-_01.29.47.17_2022-11-26_01-55-55_2022-11-26_02-32-10.mp4

[olive ember]

probably just power honestly, atleast I assume its power when they just give random percentage

[lethal plover]

let's just say the emperor sometimes aids us with RNG

[keen pawn]

Doesn't really specify so kinda confusing

[ornate hamlet]

interesting haha, i'm definitely not complaining, i'll be said to see it fixed eventually

[olive ember]

the traits for the most part don't connect w/ each other so

so power, crit chance, something like that most likely

[keen pawn]

I assumed power if not

[sharp heart]

Now I'm jealous and want a double ult

Double Ult Gunpsyker

god I would be cool...

[lethal plover]

Unironically, i don't need push that often. Current cd is good enough.

[ornate hamlet]

not sure if i'll be on much tomorrow but if i am ill try to see if i can get it to happen again

and clip it

[sharp heart]

Yes but more push can only be better 😉

[leaden belfry]

I have to give the devs credit on the psyker penances. I understand why psykers go insane now.

[lethal plover]

Penance chasing is a mistake

[sharp heart]

Psykers and the teams that support them....

[olive ember]

slowly working my way there

[ornate hamlet]

here's what i've been running when i get double procs, i've only ever seen it happen with quicken

[sharp heart]

My exact build lol

[ornate hamlet]

sometimes it happens at 0 stacks, sometimes 4

[sharp heart]

Crazy

[leaden belfry]

well its not like you can passively complete the penance

[ornate hamlet]

I've been trying to main psyker and it just feels like a crap class

[sharp heart]

Have you tried using a gun?

[olive ember]

welcome to the club

the "optimal" way to play it is to be a cc slave with surge

[sharp heart]

Sometimes I use a laser pew pew gun and just pretend I'm a vet. No one even notices

[ornate hamlet]

Ive found the voidstrike staff to be kinda enjoyable, not sure its that useful

[olive ember]

with the occasional BB on priority targets

[ornate hamlet]

but I do like the explosion sound and killing some of a horde

[sharp heart]

Void is a great staff, Surge is a great staff, Purg is a great staff with some conditions applied

[olive ember]

yeah I don't notice until kinetic flayer procs, at which point I start wondering why you are running a recon lasgun

[ornate hamlet]

Surge the lightning one? seemed crap to me

doesnt kill much, what good is the stun?

[olive ember]

surge is meta

and yeah its the hard stun

[sharp heart]

lol dead give away

[ornate hamlet]

stun the big bad guys

[sharp heart]

Surge staff turns big baddies into standing still statues for your team to murder

[olive ember]

its the only weapon in the game that can hard cc mutants, bursters, hounds on demand for relatively low peril cost

it becomes more useful on higher difficulties when they choose to spawn 3 dogs on you at once

[ornate hamlet]

Just dodge the dogs 10 mile wide hitbox

[cyan notch]

how do u dodge dogs

can u even push them

[olive ember]

yea, gl tho its jank af

[ornate hamlet]

it’s a 50/50 if u actually dodge them or not

[sharp heart]

Thats if they don't Kitty Pryde through a floor at you

[olive ember]

I find most success if you dodge and push at the same time

if you mistime the push you have a chance to dodge

[livid wraith]

you don't dodge dogs. you smack them in the face or CC them

[leaden belfry]

most the time the game stutters when a dog pounces, so its 100% hitting me

[ornate hamlet]

I’ve seen dogs leap behind someone and then teleport on them. interesting netcode

mutants way easier

[olive ember]

the dog hitbox is weird af, especially since they can do backflips and tokyo drift bs all over the place

so its better to shove and then kill

or if you run the surge staff just hard cc it

[cyan notch]

they saw the jank in assassin rat and went yea lets do the same but make it worse for dogs

[leaden belfry]

the rats were at least shishy

[olive ember]

Lets make the assassin rat, but they are 3x as tanky

also they pounce on the move

[ornate hamlet]

dogs and bursters became public enemy #1 when BB stopped 1 shotting them

[olive ember]

mutants on damnation take 4 BB's to kill its truly amazing

[ornate hamlet]

if you get caught once it’s fucked

[sharp heart]

I can't explain how sad I was my first Malice run and I learned....

[ornate hamlet]

cause they charge you before you can move again sometimes

endless throw cycle

[ornate hamlet]

yeah it was a rough day

[cyan notch]

sometimes they just throw you sometimes they start pounding your ass

[olive ember]

I can still one shot hounds and bursters in malice, but the moment you hit heresy its like

cc staff is a go

[ornate hamlet]

yeah t4 is where it stops 1 hitting

[leaden belfry]

yah going up in diff sucks for brain burst on high priority targets, at least there isnt a challenge requiring you to do it very effienctly....

[sharp heart]

After that Malice run I knew what Heresy was gonna be like lol.

[cyan notch]

sounds like its time to build into your 12% more BB damage

[ornate hamlet]

I still like to throw in BBs on the shielded fucks so vets can at least shred them

just to stagger

[olive ember]

i still can't believe they decided to gut brainburst

like not even the damage

but like who tf decided to make the targeting dog water

[leaden belfry]

going from 4 to 6 stacks only give like an extra 50 damage to the brain blast's 1030 dmage at 4 stacks

[olive ember]

and why the fuck does it only stun halfway through the charge now

[leaden belfry]

the extra stack arent worth it

[olive ember]

is it too much to ask that the flamer doesn't burn me to a crisp before I stun him with bb

[ornate hamlet]

trying to target a sniper but hopelessly getting every standard ass enemy

[faint sigil]

sad about this blessing

[ornate hamlet]

wtf is that

[sharp heart]

Special attack spam

[ornate hamlet]

that’s horrible

[sharp heart]

spam spam spam

[olive ember]

legit had to take 3 tries to target a sniper because my bb targeted two pox walkers next to it before the special like wth

[ornate hamlet]

yeah I hope they change the priority

[leaden belfry]

this is currently in my limited time acquisitions at sire Melk's

[sharp heart]

This is killer in Heresy+. The extra second of having to retarget because the game wants to kill a walker instead of the Sniper.

[fathom zealot]

I love having to panic between trying to pop a special but getting a pox walker

[olive ember]

waste of peril, waste of time, so stupid

[leaden belfry]

and they made a whole pences out of it

[ornate hamlet]

if you’re a master at attack + push spamming, that last blessing wouldn’t hurt you, right?*

[olive ember]

they also made BB stun only occur halfway through the charge and it no longer stuns ragers out of their attack chain

like why

you turned what was already a committal attack and just made it feel even more shit

[fathom zealot]

oh also brainburst doing set damage and not percent damage on certain enemies sucks dick, having to use THREE pops on a god damn charger in heresy is shit

[olive ember]

4 headpops on damnation if you are referring to the mutant

[fathom zealot]

wait really

damn

[ornate hamlet]

not even worth

[olive ember]

atleast with zero stacks but feel free to test it out

[ornate hamlet]

just let vet kill in .7 sec

[olive ember]

theres a spreadsheet somewhere i remember

and they basically said that warp charge breakpoints literally only matter on heresy

because at max warp charges you can kill a flamer in one instead of two BB

and thats basically the only use for warp charge damage gain

[sharp heart]

This is true

[olive ember]

the real reason you even remotely care about warp charges is for the peril resistance you the lvl 10 feat

and its so stupid

[leaden belfry]

and the game wants you to kill 5 elites/specials in 12 seconds, it takes what, 2 seconds to pop a head, so 2 second breathing room? With a pool of like 3 high values that can be 1 shot still.

[fathom zealot]

yeah bb should just do a consistent amount of damage, always 2 pop maulers, 1 pop normal elites like flamers, gunners, 2 pop ogryns then you hit them or use a ranged attack to finish them because they have like 100 hp left. Malice health is the perfect amount.

[olive ember]

the two good choices for lvl 10 is "you deal an extra flat amount of damage with force weapons", and "you gain less peril based on charges"

like bruh

[celest abyss]

I have a power sword with it

[olive ember]

force sword has slaughter

unless slaughter and slaughterer are different things

at which point bruh thanks game

[leaden belfry]

is there any word as to if the devs are going to adjust prenances?

[hearty burrow]

Pro tips : you can slide dodge pass charger between its legs

[runic gate]

Upgrade blue to replace orange?

[sharp heart]

Looks like someone is doing a Damnation run!

[olive ember]

I'd stick with the one on the right but I don't run voidstrike so idk the stats you want on it

[ornate hamlet]

So, Punishing salvo, is that mean that in every 2nd and 3rd shot while holding down LMB, those do more dmg? Or is it ONLY the second and third shot?

[olive ember]

bots or new players

[sharp heart]

Bots

[olive ember]

🤔 my money is on bots

yea

[dusk pilot]

This a good axe to get?

[bright cipher]

Not for 2k tokens

[sharp heart]

Mobility on it is bad

yeah not for 2k tokens

[bright cipher]

Cleave and first target are pretty important

[olive ember]

stats are a bit mid

[sharp heart]

Oh yeah that first target is real bad

[olive ember]

traits are pretty good and perks seem decent enough

but damn that stat spread

[bright cipher]

Legendary item with 290 base

[olive ember]

not even the stat spread, it adds up to <300, so just stat rolls in general

[bright cipher]

[olive ember]

wat level are ya to get a 290 gold

[sharp heart]

The ONLY Void staff I've ever had in the game.

[olive ember]

damage is e but besides that it seems aight

[sharp heart]

I have a blue staff I'm saving for when crafting is turned on

[ornate hamlet]

What is a flash mission?

[vernal imp]

i'm not a purge boy, is this worth keeping?

[olive ember]

no one knows the spreadsheet makes it seem like a mission type but its not in game yet

[sharp heart]

Hold onto it. Good base staff to upgrade if you end up wanting too

[olive ember]

who the resident purge staff user?

I think someone here loved the purge but recently everyone I've seen has been swearing by the surge or the voidstrike

[bright cipher]

For purgatus you really want the suppression blessing because it REALLY improves your cc

[sharp heart]

Once crafting is implemented we really wont have any of these "should I buy this" issues

[olive ember]

something about how voidstrike and surge are meta, purge is a close third, and trauma is a meme

[sharp heart]

If you see a decent base staff. Hold onto it. You can turn it into something amazing later

[bright cipher]

Also why is void the only staff that can roll peril quell blessing?

Fucked up

[vernal imp]

think it's because it is the only one that can headshot with its right click

[sharp heart]

My FS

[vernal imp]

holy crap that damage

[bright cipher]

Bro...

[sharp heart]

I know!

[bright cipher]

Your dmg...

[sharp heart]

hahahaha

[vernal imp]

i've once seen a 0% damage FS but that was like at level 14

[sharp heart]

All that warp resist...

Would love it to shuffle on over to dmg

[cyan notch]

whats the difference between min and max damage

[sharp heart]

Can be quite a bit

[bright cipher]

You see his force sword?

[olive ember]

I thought forcesword wanted warp resist > damage?

[bright cipher]

It hits like a grey claw sword you get at the start of the game

[olive ember]

cuz most people run forcesword for deflector

[sharp heart]

See the damge difference

So it can be pretty significant. The difference between 14% dmg and 80% would be like 20 points?

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1048903968333516820/image.png

wrong sword

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1048903968652267592/image.png

[sharp heart]

Yeah look at that

[vernal imp]

i still haven't gotten a deflector sword and i die a little inside knowing everyone else has one

[sharp heart]

My heavy attack is hitting for 86 vs the 104 on that purp

[stark snow]

the damage number it shows for light/heavy attack there also includes the modifier if I remember right last time I did the math and compared two

[olive ember]

Yes

Also, the stats themselves don't scale linearly

[stark snow]

yeah the little gray numbers

in the examine show min/max values

based on the stat

[olive ember]

I believe someone mentioned that the difference between 80 quell speed (the obtainable max) and 100 quell speed (the actual max) was like 0.6 second difference

so once you have a stat in the 60-70's you are probably chilling for that stat

[bright cipher]

I started working on a proper surge staff for end game and the difference is very noticeable

I went from casting 3-4 surges before having to quell

To often casting 10+

[olive ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1049035045962272838/image.png

[bright cipher]

Warp res is a really important stat

[stark snow]

is that based on diff in charge speed wagner?

oh warp res

yah

[candid temple]

well, warp resistance is

[olive ember]

btw this is the build I'm running any thing different out of curiousity

honestly i don't see myself ever using force weapon tbh

[stark snow]

does anyone know if warp res on swords affects the amount of peril blocks take?

[bright cipher]

Yes

[olive ember]

voidstrike doesn't rly need the damage, surge is mainly for cc, and purge generates so many warp charges with ascendant blaze that it would be a waste not to run peril

[sharp heart]

With Transfer Peril and enough stacks you can fling out charged bolts all day long without the need to Quell

[stark snow]

ah, then I should be glad my badmofo sword is 79% warp res

[candid temple]

it also reduces the peril cost of special

[stark snow]

yeah its only like 15 peril on my sword to light it up

err 14

[sharp heart]

Yeah mine is like 13 and 4 to push

[candid temple]

push attack you mean?

[sharp heart]

Yeah

[olive ember]

I was so depressed when it costed me 35 peril on my first force sword

and I was so glad when I got a decent force sword after hitting 30 and seeing that the special was still 15 peril

[bright cipher]

I think warp resistance and quell speed are probably the two most important stats for any psyker above all else because they directly translate to your uptime of whatever you provide to the team

[olive ember]

its kinda dumb but with the peril blocking and deflector you are literally safer as a psyker trying to revive someone then you are 90% of the time in normal gameplay

[bright cipher]

Being able to cast surge at any moment and keep dangerous mobs stunned until they're dealt with makes any run much easier for the team

[stark snow]

does quell speed affect also the passive quell, or only when you're hitting the quell button?

oh deflector is so awesome

but it feels limited being a blessing

[olive ember]

i dont think it affects quell speed

[stark snow]

feel like it shoulda been AUTOMATICALLY ON FORCE SWORDS or something

[olive ember]

someone mentioned that quell speed affects how fast you move while quelling but I haven't seen hard proof

[bright cipher]

Delete this

They'll do it and make u choose between peril block or projectile block

[olive ember]

I mean its only good with peril blocking, which is a feat

[sharp heart]

oh god no

[bright cipher]

Monkeys paw

[stark snow]

ok ok, maybe it should just be an inherent property of force swords then :p

[bright cipher]

Now you're talking

[glacial abyss]

Monkeys paw

[ornate hamlet]

Too bad you're limited to 4-6 enemies per shot.

[frigid sparrow]

I noticed that I can surge on armored enemies and kill them in one go vs the pox walkers. Is the metal armor actually giving me a buff to damage?

[ornate hamlet]

Or are you hitting a soft spot?

[cyan notch]

does more damage to armour

[sharp heart]

Surge staff does more dmg to armor

They need to add that to the description for Surge.

[versed rose]

what stats do i want on the surge staff?

[frigid pond]

Usually warp res

So you can spam it more

[runic gate]

Opinions on upgrading this staff to replace current?

[sharp heart]

do it

the drop in dmg is pretty small

you gain a ton of resist which will let you spam more with the upgraded Transfer Peril

[signal turret]

RNGesus blessed me with a perfect 380 but it's not 80%'d out?

[sharp heart]

wow

jelly

[stark snow]

380 still going to be a total of 20 points short of 5 80 scores

[stray cipher]

Good lord that thing is amazing

[uneven sparrow]

Axes are great - liars in this channel

[signal turret]

That explains it ty.

Don't hate me siblings, but I never use my Void staffs lol. That 380 is wasted on me

[stark snow]

that thing is sick, gl with the blessings

[signal turret]

Still bought it tho.

[sharp heart]

Yeah if nothing else hang onto it for when crafting lands

[signal turret]

Thats my plan

[sharp heart]

that will be a beast

[signal turret]

Maybe in the future Fatshark will give me a reason to run something other than Surge on T4/T5

[hot tulip]

So im feeling like Psykers the weakest out of the four rn however chain lightning one of the best AOEs/Support moves in the game

[signal turret]

Pretty much. The difference it can make in otherwise run-ending encounters cannot be understated but that's more the staff itself being good rather than the class.

[hot tulip]

TRUE

I cri

[sharp heart]

Yes and no. Surge staff lightning is the games best CC move by far when used against armored or shielded targets.

[stark snow]

I was messing around with an autolasgun and not just having on demand point to point damage is a big deal, but I also feel like there's a lot of good things. Best cc. Can assist well in taking out far elites/specials, can help push up with sword/deflector, can help clear hordes with fire

[sharp heart]

But Psykers being the weakest isn't true unless you're talking about raw dmg output. That is something Psyker doesn't have outside of BB casts.

[stark snow]

not the best at anything but can help wtih any role

[sharp heart]

Gunpsyker is best psyker

[remote tusk]

Hello sibling

[stark snow]

the autolasgun actually felt insane

[sharp heart]

OMG

[stark snow]

the fucking dream blessings

[signal turret]

This is another big one. The church of Deflector and Kinetic Deflection feat needs to welcome all of our siblings into it's flock

[hot tulip]

i feel like in heresy+, you really need that raw dps to stop all that damage

and I gotta tell you BB aint it; its too slow and inefficient compared to any other class

[nocturne stream]

12% dmg wat

[sharp heart]

I can't even believe that lol

[hot tulip]

so yeah psyker weakest in game

But thats not to say hes unviable

[ruby mural]

look at this beautful 2h force sword

[sharp heart]

Psyker has issues for sure

[hot tulip]

hes viable heresy+

[stark snow]

in 4s and 5s I'm usually helping soften the big elites up, but I don't think it'd be good if I was the sole ranged dealing with them

[faint sigil]

force zweihander please

[signal turret]

Force Greatsword with Power Sword moveset and special when

[sharp heart]

I wanna take our cute no dmg swords and just tank the hell out of Damnation lol

[remote tusk]

I can right click all day bby

[sharp heart]

Lol yup

[bright cipher]

honestly use whatever looks strongest until lvl30

most likely youre not playing on heresy

so it doesnt matter much

[faint sigil]

maybe they'll buff trauma into something useful

[bright cipher]

start getting into item slamming at lvl30 when you can get a good base

[stark snow]

the thrill of hoping for the blessing you want, the sadness of not getting it

[sharp heart]

The loot RNG makes worrying about individual stats/blessings pre 30 too much of a hassle

[remote tusk]

I quite like playing with this one.

[bright cipher]

very nice

[sonic aspen]

I just wanna reroll perks

[bright cipher]

id want a 350 base personally but very nice still

[faint sigil]

why do i keep getting limbsplitter

[sharp heart]

even at 30 without the crafting system its just total luck "min/maxing" stats

[remote tusk]

Yeah, in an ideal world

[plucky shuttle]

now let's see Paul Allen's surge staff

[stark snow]

this what I'm rocking for flamer rn

[sharp heart]

"You shall not pass!"

[bright cipher]

as long as u have terrifying barrage on purge youre already doing well

[stray cipher]

The whiff on the blessing, oof. Save it for later crafting I guess.

[bright cipher]

its basically a mandatory blessing

[sonic aspen]

Does anyone know if the Terrifying Barrage does anything for surge Most of the time I feel like it doesnt

[sharp heart]

I really need crafting...

[remote tusk]

Nice. Typical of the psyker chat to just be a bunch of guys admiring each others staffs

[sharp heart]

So many weapons that just need a little crafting

[bright cipher]

thats not a whiff considering youre perma dodge sliding on higher diff

[bright cipher]

its useful but not as useful as on purg

since youre usually at a bit more range

[sharp heart]

Nothing wrong with a couple bros bonding with their staves

[stray cipher]

But it's no line blessing right?

[stark snow]

I would love to hold some of my siblings staves that I've seen here, nothing wrong with that.

[lethal plover]

I am gonna teach you a trick on how to create suppression effect for any ranged gunmen far away

left click

[sharp heart]

What happens in Psyker chat stays in Psyker chat...just saying

[signal turret]

I hate your 380 Surge. I just got a 380 void but my best Surge is 329 😦 I want to trade

[bright cipher]

i gotta farm another 400 mats today to slam this baby and hopefully roll something good

[remote tusk]

gotta feel that grip texture. no gloves

[worthy wasp]

Limbsplitter is great on weaps with a great first heavy/push attacks

[stoic tendon]

yo are people serious about this atrox V axe being good?

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV, and yes

[night marten]

wtb 380 purge pst

[sonic aspen]

Blasphemy we are a right click only kind of people

[unkempt juniper]

some people love it but you'd have to pry the mkV dueling sword from my cold, dead hands

[stray cipher]

Antax MK V, primarily for it's block attack in combination with Kinetic Deflection feat

[stark snow]

idk I only use weapons that can block bullets.

[lethal plover]

spread the word.
we're ogryns now

[echo parrot]

370 stats

[lethal plover]

nothing / doesn't matter

[runic gate]

love mine

[sharp heart]

Same...Same.

[lethal plover]

peril block carries

[bright cipher]

antax shove is legit like 200 degrees wide

its ridic

[sharp heart]

Effective..just a little spammy

[worthy wasp]

All weaps are spammy

[bright cipher]

carrying an antax gives u a lot of solo clutch potential youre otherwise missing on a psyke

[stoic tendon]

so auto pistol for psker?

[bright cipher]

no

[sharp heart]

Well..yeah lol

[bright cipher]

youre not in the team to do dmg

[night marten]

ah top of the hour, time to log back in

[bright cipher]

youre there to cc

[sharp heart]

Gunpsyker is best psyker

[cedar blade]

am i doing really shit damage to hordes or is battle meditation not really proc'ing like it should ?

[lethal plover]

if you want to be kicked, yes gun is the best

[worthy wasp]

The thing is staffs are really good, and running any non-force melee allows you to weapon swap and quell fast while still being able to fight instead of having to hold the quell button

[remote tusk]

laspistol and axe, like a real psyker

[lethal plover]

I don't remember what battle meditation is

[sharp heart]

You did see my Damnation carry gun?

[stray cipher]

I agree, BUT, counterpoint: Why do are warp charges say +% Damage if we're not there to do damage

[worthy wasp]

Not to mention outside of Deflector, Antax MkV is superior to FS in every way

[bright cipher]

added bonus

the real bonus is the peril resist per stack mechanic

[craggy breach]

how worthless is +X % melee dmg (specialists) for a psyker sword?

[lethal plover]

psyker is the one class that refuses to be categorized

[stray cipher]

It's just a needle at the identity crisis of the psyker kit design T.T

[bright cipher]

its not deflector

and its not peril quell

[night marten]

oh hey that's not bad at all

[bright cipher]

crit doesnt matter this is essentially a godroll

[sharp heart]

Yeah hold onto that!

[worthy wasp]

Psyker can fill literally all rolls

[worthy wasp]

Disagree on crit not mattering

[signal turret]

Class is badly designed

@night marten that warp resist 😵 that quell speed 😵 that damage 😵 omg

[worthy wasp]

Quell Speed and Charge Rate mean nothing tho in Surge

[bright cipher]

psyker has no crit basd dynamic

[craggy breach]

hell anything that has a base rating of 360+ is going to be good

[sharp heart]

Surge is spamming so charge rate is kinda meh

[bright cipher]

id say for surge, res and quell speed are the two most important stats

[worthy wasp]

A crit is a crit tho, Surge doesnt do negligent damage... its just not its primary function

[sharp heart]

but it is a good base staff so I would keep it

[bright cipher]

this is what you strive for

[night marten]

it's an upgrade

[worthy wasp]

Quell speed legit does nothing for any staff if you run a non-force melee

[signal turret]

Quell speed is very important to get back down below 82% as quickly as possible

[worthy wasp]

Legit does nothing if you have a non-force melee

Just ani-cancel into your non-force melee and gg

Quell faster than any staff and still be able to fight

[lethal plover]

to be fair
switching to melee there is like a 1 or 2 second delay before passive quelling starts happening

[stray cipher]

For now at least, I'm assuming the fact that non force weapons venting faster is an oversight and will likely get patched. So in the future it'll likely be important.

[lethal plover]

staff can force start the quelling. but in a fight you do want to be using melee

[worthy wasp]

Sitting there quelling < actively contributing/defending self while quelling passively

[bright cipher]

depends if youre holding your ground or kiting as a team

[lethal plover]

yeah it's situational

[worthy wasp]

Its not. They quell passively due to not having quell built into the moveset like force weapons do at the cost of utility that force weapons provide

[remote tusk]

glad we have more options than surge+sword though

[sharp heart]

I'm really surprised we don't have a Penance for Heresy+ staff special attack only kills.

[bright cipher]

half a second faster quell can mean stunning a mutant or a dog while youre dealing with 10 other threats

[signal turret]

Im confused are y'all pulling your melees out in damnation during 3-5 ogryn specials or whatnot for the auto-quell? I prefer to maintain 100% uptime on CC in those situations

[bright cipher]

its nice to have is what im getting at

[lusty wave]

Tbh blaze sword is kinda AZ, duel sword all the way ayee

[cedar blade]

wow that pretty much a god roll

[bright cipher]

yeah tbh this is the ideal scenario, your team should deal with the big boys while u lock them down

[worthy wasp]

You dont have 100% uptime if youre having to quell tho. Its just you're pressing a different button to quell (weapon swap button instead of quell button)

[wet gust]

I've seen a guy doing brain burst in 1.5s or so, how is that possible?

[lethal plover]

the psyker with axe / surge can do both CC and frontline depending on the situation and who's left.

[bright cipher]

lvl30 talent

[worthy wasp]

Instead of spamming surge fe til youre at near 100% then quelling... youre doing the same but weapon swapping then swapping back as needed

[wet gust]

What does it do?

[worthy wasp]

Axe push attack CCs real well

[sharp heart]

CC, whip out your FS special attack, switch back CC. Not ideal in all situations but Melee can be useful

[kindred trail]

Talent + start BB at 97%, won't explode

[bright cipher]

faster BB and less peril buildup

[wet gust]

ahhh

sounds like a QoL talent

[tawny viper]

Ive been using the flamethrower staff and i have one that charges up fast enough that if i hold R click, fire a full bar, it does the little animation and by the time the firing annimation completes i got the next bar filled up, you cann quell it super fast, so its great cc

[signal turret]

Yeah that's the perspective I was posting from lol. Unless its a horde where it's obv wasteful to spend time cc'ing 6-8 dregs my staff is going to be out.

I need to see how quick the auto-quell is on a non-force before I have an opinion. I've pretty much never unequipped my deflector FS since pre-launch beta

[lusty wave]

@tawny viper damage sucks and range sucks as well

[sharp heart]

Apparently under the right conditions Quicken can insta refresh your F so you can use it twice in a row.

[wet gust]

thanks for the answer mate

[bright cipher]

np

[lethal plover]

(there is an infinite purgatus trick / bug rn)

[bright cipher]

even if you dont BB a lot its the best lvl30 feat imo because it doesnt waste your warp stacks

[worthy wasp]

Thing is too the mkv doesnt require you to generate quell like fs does in order to deal with elites

[wet gust]

oooh I see, it requires you to use your ultimate

[remote tusk]

sell me on the dueling sword please. I've been married to my deflector sword forever and want an excuse to try other things

[sharp heart]

There is a youtube video showing how to do it. Funny enough it makes the staff feel really beefy to use.

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV/Dueling Sword can tank Daemonhosts mad easily too, FS cant

[lethal plover]

really? why?

[lusty wave]

@remote tusk dueling sword has more sprint, and it's fun af spamming it fast as hell. You have to dodge alot tho but it's fun

[worthy wasp]

Because you are using peril to block and the whole time youre blocking you are full speed quelling

[wet gust]

Does this affects you aswell?

[worthy wasp]

Force sword cant do that

[timber shale]

Yes

[lusty wave]

@worthy wasp#451 wait...how does a DUELLING sword tank a DAEMON host????

[worthy wasp]

With ease

[lethal plover]

peril block

though just use the axe instead of dueling sword

[signal turret]

So for Antax MK V are you guys just repeating block shove -> light attack?

[sharp heart]

I use other melee and every single time I regret not being able to block bullets like Neo.

[worthy wasp]

Peril to toughness talent + peril for block talent + any melee that isnt a force sword

[thin dome]

are there red weapons like V2?

[lethal plover]

welcome to easy modo

[sharp heart]

It isn't the most engaging gameplay..

effective

[worthy wasp]

Push attack dunks hordes, heavy dunks on elites with headshot weakness and lights dunk on elites that dont. Push attack staggers/dunks on everything

[signal turret]

Damnation is probably a ghost town rn, imma try it in a t4 and report back lol.

[wet gust]

wow is this eyes thing new? I didn't see it until now

[worthy wasp]

Push attack doesnt stagger ogryn tho, which is why you pair with surge staff

[lethal plover]

Psyker tanking is fucking hilarious

[kindred trail]

Why? He's quite capable

[hardy topaz]

It's Kerillian's eye color. Only available to you if you played Vermintide.

[wet gust]

ahhh

[lethal plover]

Just saying it's hilarious

[sharp heart]

Who needs an Ogryn?

[worthy wasp]

You shock then ani cancel to axe and kill the thing(s)... or just spam surge staff. W/e

[bright cipher]

i think unlike with staves, when talking about melee weapon of choice the field is a lot more even and comes down to what u want to do on the team

axe, dueling sword and FS are all valid options

[worthy wasp]

No

Doodoo

[bright cipher]

nej

[lusty wave]

Tbh idk how anyone can use a force sword

It's just so slow and clunky

[ruby mural]

force sword charged hit is stronk af

[lusty wave]

I feel fast as hell with a dwelling sword

[worthy wasp]

Bad horde clear, signif less mobility than dueling sword and worse than antax mkv in every way

[bright cipher]

because of these perks

exorcist is basically lifesteal with Quietitude

[lusty wave]

@bright cipher I know deflector is cool as hell

But like

[bright cipher]

you attack, you quell peril, you heal toughness

[lusty wave]

Realistically how much are you being exposed to be shot at

[lethal plover]

That tickles crushers

[wet gust]

Still with an inside battle... Surge vs Voidstrike 😫

[bright cipher]

makes rezzing super safe

[worn canopy]

Purgatus

[lethal plover]

It's all a trade off

[lusty wave]

@bright cipher tru

[worthy wasp]

Right lol, when I'm being shot at I'm actively spamming surge staff charged attacks outside of their los

[bright cipher]

since youre a cc bot youre essentially already a utility support

[sharp heart]

With deflector ranged fire becomes a slight annoyance at best

[bright cipher]

might as well be a rez god

[signal turret]

Is there a consensus on Mk V axe blessing god roll? Im assuming Limb Splitter and Decimator maybe?

[worthy wasp]

Good positioning > deflector unless you are rezzing

[sharp heart]

Or I could just stand there and tank it for my team

[lusty wave]

Yeah tbh I'm always trying not to be shot at

[worthy wasp]

While pleb is holding block, I am spamming surge staff

[lusty wave]

Or using surge to stun them then get there quick with the sword and cut their heads off

[sharp heart]

I mean yes not being hit is always the goal. But if I can tank some ranged fire for a sec. I'll do it

[lethal plover]

To be fair, if you are being shot at by dreg gunner, you should reposition. Never be too suicidal with your tanking

[worthy wasp]

Or using staff to cc so I can gap close w/ axe via animation canceling

Pends on situation

[signal turret]

Even with my Deflector FS im so use to minding my positioning with walls and double-stacked crates the only time the deflector blessing is useful 95% of the time is when im rezzing someone in a bad position

[lusty wave]

Idk, maybe I'm salty because I tried playing ogryn with shield and it sucked to be blocking while being shot at.

[sharp heart]

I also whore out push attack a lot

push/push attack on FS

[lusty wave]

Yeh

[lethal plover]

the only problem with playing mk5 axe rn for me is that
I may actually start sucking at the game without it

[remote tusk]

Hey I am going to make plenty of mistakes. I like being able to correct them by blocking and repositioning. Not training for the Darktide olympics here

[candid temple]

brutal momentum is probably top-tier

[lethal plover]

What is that?

[candid temple]

ignore enemy hit mass for 2-4 seconds on weak spot kill

[lethal plover]

Cleave then

Hmm. Psyker may be the class that can solo damnation, with axe surge

[sharp heart]

Before I go to bed my Beloved wanted to let you all know he thinks your obviously crazy and I'm the only sane one here.

[bright cipher]

delete this

if fatshark sees us talking about stuff like that

were getting another nerf

were not veterans after all

[cyan notch]

just change antax push attack make it a stab

watch everyone go bald

[olive ember]

I'm just saying, with how much people talking either deflector or peril blocking will be nerfed

just you wait

no fun allowed

[remote tusk]

Psyker tank with zero brainburst casts, just as Fatshark intended

[faint sigil]

psyker can tank? better buff vet

[olive ember]

also is it better to have deflector + exorcist or deflector + slaughterer on force sword

[lusty wave]

Uhg

Please stop needing psyker

My man needs a buff

Nerfing*

[olive ember]

yeah ignoring enemy hit mass means each light attack can basically kill like 5 pox walkers

[bright cipher]

exorcist all day

[severe dove]

Anyone else find their biggest issue with psyker being the voice options?

[lusty wave]

I hate the male option voices

[pine topaz]

mehhhhhh

[severe dove]

They're terrible

[bright cipher]

this works with exorcist

[lusty wave]

The loner one makes him sound like a nerrd

[bright cipher]

i love Savant

[lusty wave]

Savant one is eh

[olive ember]

oh yeah i know, was wondering if the peril quelling is needed since we already have passive vent

[lusty wave]

He's a Syker kissing imperium ass

[olive ember]

the extra damage from slaughterer I feel would help with horde clearing

[ornate hamlet]

What a marvelous upgrade!

[lusty wave]

Like bro they were about to execute you

But it's the only male decent voice

The other one sounded kinda weird

[signal turret]

Reporting back

I've been made a believer. MK V Axe supremacy.

[pine topaz]

at 80% warp resistance I can heavy the surge exactly 1 more time

before I need to quell

[olive ember]

meh I mean I like the savant because he sounds not completely insane until he hits high peril and I kinda like the contrast

[lusty wave]

@olive ember I like savant too, I just don't like how he kisses ass alot lmao

[olive ember]

unlike the other two voices who both have a screw loose almost constantly

[olive ember]

force sword tanking is a meme tho, but I plan on running the damn axe on my zealot lmao

[bright cipher]

in what way

[bright pike]

How commonly are people preferring to run Psyker with a gun instead of a staff? I've been having pretty good success with a build that I learned about from a YT video but I'm also not running damnation yet, I don't have a group I regularly play with

[olive ember]

atleast from personal experience I perform better with the antax over both the eviscerator or the thunder hammer

[bright cipher]

savant just sounds like hes living in his own world

having fun

in his own lane

[olive ember]

My first thought if I see a psyker running a gun is "damn hes throwing"

[near wyvern]

I guess this is a descent roll on FS

[lusty wave]

@bright cipher he's a psyker but he still wants to believe into the imperium even though he was about to be executed for being a psyker cause let's be honest, being a psyker is basically a death sentence

[olive ember]

alright thats me being dramatic

my actual first thought is "bruh why are you running a gun on psyker, just go play vet"

[bright pike]

LMAO I mean, that's fair 🤔 typically I can take out elites or mobs really quickly. Idk if people want to see the build or not, but it's pretty fun imo!

[olive ember]

followed by my second thought "damn hes throwing"

[lusty wave]

@bright cipher he even says in bis story, how they used him and threw him away, yet savant psyker is still "loyal"

Like bro what lol

[glad creek]

My mind still goes "unlimited power" every time i use the surge staff

[bright cipher]

i mean

[olive ember]

My mind always goes to a random meme image I saw captioned "Slightly Limited Power!"

[bright cipher]

in 40k as a psyker u either do what imperium wants or u get thrown into emperors meat grinder

not much else available for you

[lusty wave]

@bright cipher I know, still kinda wish he had the dialouge of loner psyker...without the voice lmfao

[bright cipher]

loner psyker makes a lot of sense in what he says but hes also got an insufferable personality

[lusty wave]

I just don't like his voice lmfao

He sounds like a frail old German man lmao

[olive ember]

yeah i mean the psyker options are: crazy guy talking to voices in his head, narcissist, unrealistic optimist

[glad creek]

I changed my whole character design once I realized I only liked the Savant voice

[lusty wave]

@olive ember frr lool

[glad creek]

Although French lady psycher works for me mhmm

[bright cipher]

[olive ember]

I mean i'm assuming with gun psyker you would be running kinetic flayer, toughness damage down, ascendant blaze or cooldown refund etc.

[lusty wave]

The female voices have better options and the loner sounds so good, but I don't play female characters cause I'm a big boi

[olive ember]

Meh its weird cuz in games where you make a character I kinda want a character that isn't me but is still me ya know, and playing a female character is always a bit of a stretch

prob doesn't help that the most prominent example I can think of are guys playing as catgirls in ffxiv and I could never do that lmao

[lusty wave]

That's what I had in mind. Like I don't mind playing female characters but whenever I get the chance to make one, it's like an extension of me ya know

[olive ember]

^^

[glad creek]

Yeah like playing tomb raider versus creating your own character

for example

[lusty wave]

Yeah

[lethal plover]

I play female only in single player games where I stare at ass, not multiplayer

[glad creek]

Fair

[lusty wave]

I'd play alt account as females tho, cause I'm not really into it

Or alt operatives or whatever whenever I get bored of my main

[glad creek]

My main is always just what I'd be if I was Hemsworthi-fied

[bright cipher]

its 40k, i only play straight white dudes, 6'3 at least, toned body, blonde hair, blue eyes, no ethnic background

[lusty wave]

Lmfaoooo

[olive ember]

I mean idk why but I make generic asian americans... specifically asian american

so thanks to darktide I now have 4 different asian american characters now

one for each class

[lusty wave]

Lmaooo

[glad creek]

I made my Ogryn have the handlebar and the mohawk and I have no regrets

[lethal plover]

In 40k there are only the faithful and the heretic

[bright cipher]

if a woman joins the lobby i leave instantly

not in my 40k

[lusty wave]

Lmfaooo

Gamer moment

My ogryn looks like a mix of captain price and a fuck boy

[untold kestrel]

My ogryn looks like president 45

[glad creek]

lmfaoooooo

Psycher forreal the most fun class I've played so far. It's always fun to "wow" the rest of the party when you're the only psycher and you pull clutch shit

[bright pike]

So important skills are Kinetic Flayer Lv 25 skill + Cerebral Lacerations Lv 15 skill
Ranged weapon is a full auto gun, no burst fire or semi auto. I've been experimenting with both lasgun and autogun but my preference has been the Accatran VIIa Recon, which is the tan coloured one for more power
Melee is a Force sword

You don't have to work very hard on managing Peril because you're not using a staff and rarely are actively brain bursting unless there are high priority elites etc. The big bosses are what I actively brain burst the most, and so with the damage increase for 5s with brain burst it's easy to manually apply, fire for a bit, manually apply, eventually one of the full auto shots will trigger brain burst to fire again, giving more time with damage buff

I stay very close most of the time, always in the fray, and zoom around constantly, and the force sword warp attack is perfect for killing bigger enemies in melee that are resistant to the ranged weapon

I run deflector on my warp sword which is nice, too, and kinetic deflection is good with that, and especially so because I'm often not running high numbers of Peril at any given time

[bright cipher]

its the empire of man not the empire of WOman

space marines just spread like sea horses

[glad creek]

That 15 second cooldown seems rough tho

[bright cipher]

people come on

flayer is not a dps trait

its a stack generator

every 15 sec youre guaranteed to get 1 stack

keeping u at max and maintaing stacks

[olive ember]

to be fair theres not much better to bring on a gun psyker

[bright cipher]

plus the other 2 options are very mid

[glad creek]

That's a good point that I didn't think about

[olive ember]

a gun psyker prob isn't maintaining stacks that often so the two traits one which increases max charges and the other only applies if you hit max charges

so kinetic flayer is still the best trait of the three on a gun psyker

[mild lotus]

This iz ze way

[olive ember]

I will say you should probably see if you can get a Vld recon gun with infernus

[glad creek]

Does your game crash when you use the purgatus staff? I've been wanting to test it

[bright pike]

I mean, if you stay close to stuff and have a fast firing rate ranged weapon (and don't miss your shots) it's easy enough to keep up the warp charges

[bright cipher]

with a high rpm smg or more likely, void, surge or purge staff youre basically proccing flayer off cd

[olive ember]

ik they nerfed infernus but the Vld gun im pretty sure has the best dps due to its extreme fire rate

[stark snow]

I did find a pretty fun autolaser that worked well enough in 3s, haven't tried it in 4s or 5s yet, but I think if there was no vet on the team I could see the advantage of it over a staff

[robust meteor]

14 hours to pug/solo Going out with a Bang. fuuuuuuuu

[bright pike]

I haven't seen this one, lemme look it up :o

[near wyvern]

I get random crashes with purgatus and surge

[bright cipher]

lmao

yeah those 2 staves will kill fps

[bright pike]

even with a slower fire rate of the VIIa it's more than enough to keep up the stacks

[mild lotus]

Flamers too

[bright cipher]

the overlapping surge sound effect sometimes

[robust meteor]

i've crashed right after shooting a charged voidstaff too

[bright cipher]

kills your ears

like 10 surge sfx at once super loud

[glad creek]

THe surge sound can be so shack lmfao

[olive ember]

I had to look up videos of each recon lasgun but basically mk 2 = base line recon las, vld = faster firerate, bullethose, VIIa = slower firerate, more damage per shot, less dps overall though (prob more ammo efficient but thats not useful on vet atleast)

[glad creek]

But when you melt a whole squad of riflemen tho

Whack*

[mild lotus]

I prefer lining up hordes and deleting upper torsos with the void staff

[bright pike]

I like the VIIa because it can mow down hordes of enemies more easily it feels like? I had heard it has better penetration for the infected

[glad creek]

I don't think I've tried that yet. haven't found a good one

[mild lotus]

• aoe throwing down that one gunner in the back

[olive ember]

Maybe but I don’t rly use lasguns as horde clearing weapons

[glad creek]

The stunlocking ability of the surge has saved my life a ton too

[olive ember]

So I find the Vld better for my purposes

[bright pike]

it also does fantastic damage against flak armoured enemies and maniacs and stuff, so taking them down even at a long distance is ez

[olive ember]

I’d use the Mk12 if I could aim on my vet

[untold kestrel]

Imagine fighting for ammo as a psyker

[bright pike]

melee is preferred, but it works in cases like if you're helping a stuck teammate from a dostance, it's versatile

[olive ember]

Hey it’s kruptid

[untold kestrel]

👋

[olive ember]

Yeah solo is hell, I spent 6 hours to get mm and going out with bang

[bright pike]

I mean, it feels like there's plentiful enough ammo, unless damnation reduces the amount of drops given in addition to enemies being harder to kill?

[olive ember]

Certainly was an experience

[olive ember]

Enemies are just harder to kill and more of em so more ammo consumption

[bright cipher]

bro just use LFG for those 2 penances

[olive ember]

I did, took me 6 hours lmao

[untold kestrel]

I'm just trolling gun psykers tbh. Play what you want

[bright cipher]

better than 14

[bright pike]

x3333 okay! I didn't get to play pre-release beta cause I didn't get paid until the 29th, so I only have 5 days of game time (40+ hours tho >_>)

[olive ember]

Well i wasn’t the only one getting penances done so 6 hours to get those 2 + I think MM and pick n mix for other people

[bright pike]

so I'm still getting a feel for stuff

[bright cipher]

any cheese for the warp battery one?

[olive ember]

No point in cheesing you get that one easily by naturally playing

[near wyvern]

Just don't use ult that clears your stacks

[untold kestrel]

Ammo is fine with a veteran in the party most of the time. If a psyker is using gun in heresy+ though then someone else is hopefully doing some form of cc regularly.

The staves really are best for that though

[olive ember]

Go on heresy run the 4% chance + kinetic flayer, if you have to manually bb a pox walker

Should easily be done once you hit a horde

[near wyvern]

Run 4% chance of warp charge in coherency, kinetic Flayer and then use BB if stacks are halfway to drop.

[bright cipher]

thats what im running and i got to like 380 seconds without rly trying

so i guess ill just hit it eventually

[mellow crescent]

Warp Battery is 300s?

[bright pike]

I operate on the assumption that heresy+ is for pre-mades, at least partially, based on coordination, so that would make sense 🤔 I haven't tried them yet, though, most has been Malice as I solo-queue

[bright cipher]

mb 280

fat fingers

[olive ember]

Heresy can be done w/ randoms but… oof

[robust meteor]

i must like pain bc i pug damnation often

[faint sigil]

you can get some good pugs in damnation

[olive ember]

I mostly run heresy smaller hordes and have had more successes there, it’s like malice endless hordes but harder hitting

[untold kestrel]

I pug heresy with like 80% completion rate. Pre-made damnation

[faint sigil]

but also you can go half a level with 2 bots sometimes

[olive ember]

That’s assuming you actually queue into a match, and they aren’t achievement hunting pugs

[bright cipher]

yeah pugging heresy is fine

[mellow crescent]

Same, sibling.
Though if you want to get it with 100% certainty, isn't there an infinite stream of poxwalkers chasing after you when you finish a daemon scrubbing mission?

You could just chill next to the valk for 5 mins popping heads if you really want to.

[olive ember]

I wish I had 80% completion rate, I failed like 5 heresies in a row and only 2 of em I made it to final objective sadge

One of them we could’ve won but the zealot threw and tried to thunder hammer the boss instead of just using his flamer

[near wyvern]

Until you get lcl 17 vets who shoot demonhosts the moment they see them

[bright pike]

I just got to 30 today, so I'm looking to find folks to play with :3c I see there are lfg channels but I haven't checked them out yet

[robust meteor]

what i learned from heroes of the storm is, sometimes its better to make the wrong decision with your team than the right decision and go solo

[untold kestrel]

For pugging heresy just get in your mic and tell people to stay in coherence a few times

[olive ember]

Yeah I don’t use mic that often lmao

[untold kestrel]

No honestly that's the best way to complete them most of the time

[olive ember]

Unless I’m in discord or w/ friends

[bright cipher]

its wild people play heresy and still dont know about coherency

[bright pike]

that's wild wtf

[olive ember]

I mean half the time I hear someone on mic they are either too quiet, shittalking/raging, or sounded like they were high ngl

[untold kestrel]

Also I think people go full bot until they hear a human voice

[robust meteor]

im the high one

[olive ember]

Then again maybe it’s cuz I was leveling in uprising/malice

[mellow crescent]

i love the people who make the wrong decision and go solo

[bright pike]

LOL

[untold kestrel]

Can someone make me a tropic thunder meme but with "never go full bot"

[olive ember]

Joined a match where a guy was shit talking his (admittedly) bad team for not uploading the data to the servo skull

[bleak sonnet]

we're golded out boys

[untold kestrel]

I feel like I could get some mileage on this discord out of that thing

[mellow crescent]

no reds smh

[bright cipher]

mans rly went golden with a veteran loadout