psyker-class

[shadow quail]

That's not the 1h

[bleak sonnet]

not pog

[valid marsh]

[rough ibex]

no I never said that, it's another sword I'm talking about, that's already in the game

[fiery pine]

I need to do one more mission type for the penance "Mind Over Matter" Is there any way to tell which one I need to do?

[shadow quail]

?

[cold oasis]

10 to 1 is Repair

[ebon jolt]

Excited for crafting to come out so I can work on this:

[vivid merlin]

you can go to the missions penance tab and see which is at 0

[rough ibex]

0.5 frames earlier you can see the curved part too, so this can't be the weapon people think is a 2hand force sword

[shadow quail]

IS that in the game now>#

[rough ibex]

I just sent you a picture of it

[vivid merlin]

Turtolsky is a zealot weapon

[fiery pine]

Thank you

[rough ibex]

it's not a force sword

[shadow quail]

oh shit

[rough ibex]

it's a sword for zealot but it's literally the same sword

idk where people are getting the twohand sword from

[shadow quail]

so we are not getting fuck all 😢

[rough ibex]

like, we had shotguns in CBT but I've yet to see one in launch/preorder beta

[bleak sonnet]

likely psyker was able to use turt at that point

[shadow quail]

i mean force weapons

[bleak sonnet]

and no longer can

[rough ibex]

so there should be weapons that we either had and are getting to use again like shotgun, or are not getting at all

[shadow quail]

there is nothing new

[rough ibex]

nah, other than this frame I can't find anything about no 2hand force weapon everyone been talking about

[worn canopy]

Yea same

Community rumor

[bleak sonnet]

fatshart is horrible at balancing 2h weps anyways

itd likely blow

[elder rivet]

ayo the upgrading starting pretty pretty good 😎 (+25% against heavy armored ennemy and 20% against infested ennemy)

[reef sparrow]

Too bad it's a purge staf

[elder rivet]

yes :/

the game is only giving purge

and trauma

at least purge is fun

[night marten]

pretty good staff

[elder rivet]

PURGE STAFF GANG XD

[cyan notch]

i will take that thank you very much

[long wharf]

very nice

[elder rivet]

yes; I just hope I will have a T3 blessing for the last

[devout belfry]

Anyone else getting login errors?

[mild iron]

purg enjoyers, does the rest of this make up for the 50% cloud radius?

[night marten]

I wouldn't go so far as "make up for", but it's useable

in this day and age of rng shop hell if you can get a 350+ purge staff, I call it a win

[mild iron]

true that

[harsh cobalt]

when you see that psyker with a recon lasgun "build" https://media.tenor.com/Qk5fsbmnSdQAAAAM/stop-it-get-some-help.gif

[bleak sonnet]

yeah run mk12 instead

way faster special killing

[harsh cobalt]

stop it, get some help

[valid marsh]

What the hell is the difference between decimator and headtaker

[rare bough]

Giving it, or taking it.

[valid marsh]

Hush

[oak falcon]

o:

[rare bough]

[valid marsh]

both give + power on hit and stack 5 times

[rare bough]

Seems decimator is better, head taker has a time limit on the stacks

[valid marsh]

but clearly decimator also has a limit, and I don't know what that is

[haughty flame]

Going out with a bang is the most unfun, dogshit cancer penance to ever plague a video game

[night marten]

just wait til pick n mix

[rare bough]

Take it to the Meat Grinder, test it on a dummy

[haughty flame]

Annoyingly I'v done pick n mix

[cobalt tartan]

yummy

[vernal imp]

about as lucky as i'm gonna get with emp's gift

just wish it had flak damage on it

[ornate hamlet]

actually insane how long ive gone without seeing a deflector sword

[vernal imp]

same every force sword i get from gift or shop is around 310 base stats

[bleak sonnet]

i have 6 deflectors

above 350 ilvl base

[ornate hamlet]

i get godly white swords, then i consecrate and always get shit like exorcist

[vernal imp]

stop hogging them bro

[bleak sonnet]

i dont even use force sword

[robust meteor]

i could have bis force sword and would still use ds

[bleak sonnet]

i have close to bis ds and use a blue axe

[echo parrot]

Seriously fuck OUt with a Bang

[vernal imp]

i love the antax now, and duel but i would like to see deflector sword again

[echo parrot]

I dont even want to play any missions now until I can get a premade to help me

[vernal imp]

last time i used deflector sword was when it was built into the force sword in the network test

[robust meteor]

i had to go to the meat grinder to figure out what how much damage i need to do the different elites

[haughty flame]

Going out with a bang makes me just not want to play, I either get kicked for blowing myself up and throwing the game, or flamed for blowing myself up and throwing the game, but no scoreboard because toxic right? cant do it in a private match right?

[vernal imp]

yeah its so rough, going out with a bang took me 2-3 days to get, pick and mix i got it on the first attempt, it's so bad

[ornate hamlet]

is there a staff ranking, from best to worst?

[haughty flame]

What kind of moron thought of this penance and didnt forsee this, my fucking cat could make a better penance

[vernal imp]

trauma is the weakest rn due to its cost

surge or void is your best bet, and some people swear by purgatus

[ornate hamlet]

surge for cc and void vor more dmg, right?=

[vernal imp]

void is great for hallways and some horde clear, surge is CC king, purge is horde clear king

[stark snow]

not quite god tier but pretty damn good I think

[ornate hamlet]

nuts

[night marten]

pretty damn close

[unkempt juniper]

thats really good

[white badger]

So what staffs do you folks grab when you're grouping with quickplay randoms? Can't count on your team for much, then.

[night marten]

it's your preference, just not trauma

[worthy wasp]

Sweet mother of fuck

[tacit fractal]

Purgatus destroys hordes, Void strike is pack up horde killing machine and just pretty fine dmg, Surge is good damage against flak armour and small group crowd control for something like mutants, ogryns or pox hounds (even pox bursters if your teammates don’t know how to push them away)

[ornate hamlet]

ok thx you very much :3

[tacit fractal]

Surge, you can stun anything and avoid getting eaten by hounds and grabbed by mutants if you have atleast mediocre reflexes to get that stun in

[worthy wasp]

What melee weapons aside from Axes available to Psyker have a horizontal cleave push attack? Just curious

@ me so I can read later plz

[white badger]

I've been defaulting to Purgatus for randoms. Horde control seems to be the most likely thing to be absent. I just wish I could see the other folks' loadouts in the lobby screen

[tacit fractal]

Claw sword

[worthy wasp]

What mk? I know mk7 doesnt

[tacit fractal]

Probs will be a thing week 3 or 4

[white badger]

Hope so

If the zealot has a flamer, or the other psyker does, I'd switch up to surge

[lethal plover]

the hOrDe MeLeE dANCe
game is very hard

[tacit fractal]

Can’t recall, don’t really care cause I slap any ass with any weapon so I don’t have a preference other than going with force sword and sometimes if I feel speedy Dueling Sword ;)

[night marten]

agreed (also I find it the coolest). good groups handle most hordes without issue, but too often in pugs do people not know how to use block, dodge, and generally good positioning to not get overwhelmed if they're separated for a few seconds.

[edgy hearth]

Consistent framerate and connection help a bit lol

One day

[lethal plover]

riveting gameplay.
peril block + holding axe and staying still

[rare bough]

I think I'm in love with voidstrike

[lethal plover]

I fucking sleep through zombie hordes

[tacit fractal]

How in the karkin bloody Warp do you have such smooth gameplay

[tacit fractal]

You’re in love with voidstrike, I’m addicted to Purgatus. We’re not the same

[west current]

If you have a coherency of 4 with psykinetic aura does that give a 60% cooldown buff?

[rare bough]

I'm so sorry

[lethal plover]

I update GPU driver + disable steam overlay + worker thread 8 + no RTX + DLSS to performance. no idea what's most important.

[tacit fractal]

W

Ty

[rare bough]

The only reason I wanna stay away from flamethrower powers is because its clearly bugged

I dont want my powers taken away D;

[tacit fractal]

Wdym?

[white badger]

Bugged how?

[rare bough]

You can cast it infinitely

[lethal plover]

my fucking sides. they are just waiting for me

[white badger]

Purgatus? How?

[tacit fractal]

That’s a possibility?

[rare bough]

I shall not teach this easy-to-do-2-braincell-exploit

Im sure the devs didnt intend to make it work this way

Search youtube

[white badger]

Oh, you're playing the "I know a secret, nyaah" game. How cool of you.

[fair kayak]

get CLEAAAAVED

[rare bough]

I'm definitely making you work for it 🤓

[tacit fractal]

I don’t really care cause like I still slap with it even without a cowardly cheese even though I do like my cheese in strategy and other fps titles :)

[rough ibex]

that is very good!

[tacit fractal]

And just regular cheese

[brave vale]

Does anyone know whether burn or damage is more important for purgatus staff?

[night marten]

damage, imo

[rare bough]

Damage, the Tick sucks

[brave vale]

love u guys for answering all my questions

[tacit fractal]

Always damage, the tick damage makes me vomit

And I use Purgatus every minute

[cyan notch]

quell before attack ends

[mint burrow]

Damn I have one with 59% damage and 80% burn

[tacit fractal]

LMFAO really? That’s hilarious

[mint burrow]

I’ve enjoyed using it

Didn’t know it was that important of a stat

[cyan notch]

yea u can try it in meat grinder

[tacit fractal]

@rare bough We figured it out now dw~ :)

[rare bough]

You're welcome

[lethal plover]

it may be fixed

[bronze sierra]

how do yall feel about this one?

aside from the obvious crappy crit chance

[devout axle]

My stomach crawled up my throat at that crit bonus.

[white badger]

Useable. Not worth upgrading.

[rough ibex]

that's some clean fps, you on a NASA computer or something?

[tacit fractal]

Fuck, watchin Good Omens got me acting a tad bit like Crowley right now, prefectly fitting since i’m playing a mad psyker (loner)

[mint burrow]

I am also interested in this

[tacit fractal]

Makes you hungry for a delicious 40-series GPU don’t it? Hah

[devout axle]

He just has a really good gaming chair.

[bronze sierra]

i mean if i want a mass spam staff its pretty good

[mint burrow]

Not for 1700 grand haha

[bronze sierra]

if i dotn really care about crits

[tacit fractal]

He literally put an explanation what he did to make it so. Scroll down from that vid

[rough ibex]

brb gotta sell my kidney, my future child and my cat

[tacit fractal]

Legendary last words before getting hunted down by an Officio Assassinorum agent

[lethal plover]

I'm on an acer helios 300 laptop from like 2019 with rtx 2060 mobile.

so not that great

[rough ibex]

it looks super smooth man

[mint burrow]

I was talking about the FPS

[tacit fractal]

A 2060 on a laptop?!

My condolences sibling

[magic hull]

which one to go for lads?

[tacit fractal]

Also this just makes me more mad than what I already was about AMD’s GPUs being horrid

[jovial frigate]

oh.

'thanks 'emprah

[tacit fractal]

Yours

[lethal plover]

or roll for both damage and burn

I don't know how the ticking works rn but just get near 80 for both

[tacit fractal]

Primarily focus on cloud and general damage imo

Tick sucks even on high

[calm patio]

kill 3 elites with suicide bomb penance makes me want to punch a baby

[hardy topaz]

What are you on about? I'm having no issues playing this game smoothly on a 3-year-old AMD GPU.

[rough ibex]

short term right, long term left, you'll find better once later on anyway

but idk, might be wrong

[magic hull]

How about between these two

[lethal plover]

one funny issue is that explorer.exe can act up when I go full screen and alt-tab, so it needs to restarted to get smooth fps. also close firefox / chrome.

[rough ibex]

right

[mint burrow]

I would kill for the one on the right

This is mine

[magic hull]

how about between these two:

[hardy topaz]

Right one

[tacit fractal]

Stay on yours for obvious reasons

Wait

My brain farted

[mint burrow]

Yeah I was like

Why

[tacit fractal]

[magic hull]

ok

[mint burrow]

I feel like my surge is decent though

[tacit fractal]

Why does it look like a Purgatus

[magic hull]

yeh ive been trying to make a good surge

[mint burrow]

Because I changed the skin

[magic hull]

so hard rng

[mint burrow]

I don't like how surge staff looks

[tacit fractal]

That mind fucked my brain lmao

[mint burrow]

Bahaha

[tacit fractal]

It’s goofy yeah

[mint burrow]

Also I only need 19 games before I finish with all psyker penances

I want my goggles damnit

[tacit fractal]

I really don’t like the goggles or the face mask, I just want my black hood

[lethal plover]

for surge staff, when you switch to melee weapon to cut short the lightning animation
the damage is still dealt in full, but the stun duration is cut a bit short (though still enough for an axe swing). Is this correct?

[tacit fractal]

Nop

[night marten]

lifeleech 5 doesn't give goggles right?

[haughty flame]

I'm not playing psyker till they change going out with a bang, throwing everyones games for 3 days straight. fuck this moronic penance

[tacit fractal]

The end animation with lightning is the big damage, go check the Meat grinder

[cobalt tartan]

other people throwing makes you not want to play psyker?

[potent harness]

Hey guys I've been having a hard time understanding the MK VI Force Staff. I don't know if I just have a bad staff or what but it just kinda feels lacking. I was curious what role does it fit in, (cc, support, damage, etc.). To avoid confusion I'm talking about the flamethrower variant.

[haughty flame]

No, I'm the one throwing

Blowing myself up all game every game

[tacit fractal]

It’s easy, just LFG or bring up a friend group to chill, there are deliberate moments when you can do them

[haughty flame]

to do a queef of damage to the enemies

[sleek herald]

yes, it will animation skip the shocking part right to the big damage at the end, also sprinting forwards works to animation skip to the big dmg

[twin yacht]

So whats the power sword of psyker? Which melee weapon trumps most other?

[jovial frigate]

if only this was on my nonexistant vet

[cyan notch]

knife

[tacit fractal]

@haughty flame You do it by BBing the elites to half health and then you blow yourself up, I literally did this conviniently during a mission where there was 3 maulers coming after us, I told my mates ”Oh yeah wait old on guys let me kablooye on these asses” BB’d all 3 once and then just did it lmao

[tacit fractal]

Oh shit

That’s cool

[sleek herald]

@haughty flame I did it today out of sheer luck that 3 ragers decided to climb the platform I was at and I was at 95% peril, so I could explode, they were stuck in animation so couldn't run away or hit me and veterans behind me couldn't shoot them, just try looking out for opportunities

[lethal plover]

so skipping is for faster damage. but less stun duration

[haughty flame]

Opportunistic fucktard penance. I'm not going to bother

[lethal plover]

does skipping work for staggering dogs and mutants?

[sleek herald]

yes, you do a bit less dmg overall cause stun also ticks a bit, but it's not much so I wouldn't care

BUT this ticking dmg can proc brainburst from 25lvl talent

[lethal plover]

I want to know if skipping can stagger dogs / mutants / bursters

[tacit fractal]

You don’t do the penance by trying to do it, you do it when there’s literally a giant sign of ”here’s 3 elites, blow em up” very simple, focus on other parts of the game meanwhile

[long wharf]

there's also a spike of damage from surging a target

[sleek herald]

so you can either skip for more dps, or not skip for more cc

I does miniscule stagger, won't stagger a mutant I think

[lethal plover]

yeah I have a difficult time guessing what will stagger a mutant or a burster

sometimes they are staggered, but sometimes not

[muted tundra]

470bd5a3-dd79-427c-a73a-1832e5a20ae2.bin

[tacit fractal]

Probs yeah, try it out on a mission, if it staggers a hound or a burster it will most likely stagger a mutant

[sleek herald]

literally what I said today and got it 2 hours later

[tacit fractal]

No

[muted tundra]

They're all just sticks

[tacit fractal]

They’re all just weapons of mass murder

[lethal plover]

what staggers a mutant? sometimes they just charge through my lightning

[sleek herald]

found the Bone'ead

[twin yacht]

What melee wep do you guys use?

[tacit fractal]

Twin-stubbed cannon is literally the same as a lasgun

[lethal plover]

do we need full charge? does full charge have more stagger for mutants?

[runic gate]

MkV axe

[mint burrow]

Lifeleech 5? there are only 3 lifeleech

[lethal plover]

right now it's force sword for blocking bullets + reviving, and axe for damage + horde clear

[pine iris]

I have been in mostly no-ogryn matches recently

[sleek herald]

a wall or ogryn charge or the ogryn grenade launcher I think

[muted tundra]

Your words are insulting to the humble lasgun

[tacit fractal]

Force sword, any mk dueling sword, chain sword, combat axe maybe

[tacit fractal]

Why are you here then roughneck?

[left briar]

is one of the female voices sienna?

[muted tundra]

Because I champion the lasgun Psyker, and am here to spread ita teachings, and hopefully stop my siblings from blowing themselves up

I'm basically a saint

[sleek herald]

Don't worry, he still didn't get the Voidstrike staff lmao

[tacit fractal]

L

[jagged patio]

Lol just got it 5 seconds ago. First group of enemies in a heresy mission, asked the boys to let me explode him

[muted tundra]

Psyker penance do seem the most tailored to griefing your own team though

[tacit fractal]

What?

[runic gate]

You guys with deflect+force sword. Do you honestly stand there and use it to block bullets? If not how do you use it?

[tacit fractal]

Malleus Monstronum, Going out with a Bang and Pick and Mix are very easy to do

[sleek herald]

btw @haughty flame Pick'n Mix is a LOT harder to do, in blowing up you only need 3 specials on malice, on the pick'n mix you need 5 specials and a specific 30lvl talent and not miss any brainburst and hope noone kills any of those specials while you're brainbursting

[tacit fractal]

I use it to kick Crusher ass

[daring oyster]

Hello, as a psyker, which curio perks do you think is needed ?
Toughness or something else ?

[haughty flame]

I'v done picknmix

[sleek herald]

so now do it again, but explode instead of bursting easy

[tacit fractal]

Wdym

[runic gate]

1-2 wound, sniper resist and gunner resist.

[lethal plover]

what the fuck is this damage calculation

[runic gate]

Is it effective on crushers at damnation?

[tacit fractal]

It’s literally fast BB

[white badger]

I use the deflector when I'm caught in the open. It's a lifesaver when I make a positioning mistake.

[runic gate]

Yeah there’s no point in doing heavy axe. Just lights

[lethal plover]

heavy attack with axe does less damage than light

wtf

[runic gate]

Does it work in damnation? How often do you get caught out and why?

[runic gate]

It’s broken, I hope they fix it.

[muted tundra]

The gameplay loop is avoiding perils of the warp, then we have a cosmetic unlocked by using it to blow ourselves up. Not a terribly difficult challenge when the opportunity presents itself but all the failed attempts can be annoying for the team constantly picking up your pieces

[runic gate]

Yes

[white badger]

I don't play Damnation. It works in Heresy. I also use the "use peril instead of stamina" feat, and it's quite effective in protecting me when I'm under fire from a laser-squad and not near cover.

[sleek herald]

I'm not arguing it's a good penance, it's extremely shitty and anti teamplay, but I'm also saying that going for it isn't the way and is more frustrating than just playing like normal

[runic gate]

That’s a underrated feat for sure, I’d be scared to melee in a lot of the hordes or ever be caught in the open on damnation

[white badger]

Yeah, and it kinda sucks for people completing the "100 missions with nobody downed" penance, or the "3 in a row with no downs" contract

[sleek herald]

besides, the jacket from malleus monstronum looks better

[nocturne stream]

toughness, toughness dmg reduction and regen speed. But you kinda take whatever you get now since you can't change em

[fair kayak]

any good?

[runic gate]

I have more fun ignoring penances. I just enjoy finishing damnation, the only actual challenge in the game rn

[night marten]

you sure?

[molten trout]

anybody know if there is a chat for penances?

[tacit fractal]

Why do you think people do the first one with groups they can rely on and the other one isn’t even anything, it’s barely even a challenge cause it’s literally 3 missions

[lethal plover]

Same. Penances are a mistake.
Though I did get tier 1 helmets without trying.

[tacit fractal]

Wdym?

[sleek herald]

go to lfg and look for people

I found myself a few people today and we all did the malleus monstronum for everyone, took about 2 hours so it's doable

[molten trout]

ok tks

[lethal plover]

If it provides a goal for the OCD completionists then cool

[tacit fractal]

I’ve had an absolute blast doing penances personally, ofc sometimes sort of pissed off but that’s just because i’m competitive when in reality i’m having fun

Had a blast with Vermintide 2 challenges and having a blast with Darktide penances

[sleek herald]

penances of veteran are actually pretty good now with the reworked toughness

and it seems like ogryns are fine too, but didn't do them yet

psyker needs siblings for some reason

and zealot is fine too I guess

[cobalt tartan]

what is best dump stat for mkV combat axe?

[brave vale]

this looks good

[vernal imp]

base stats are too low, save your coins

[junior anvil]

@sleek herald ogryn charge change going from needing 4 to 6 is kinda brutal

[tacit fractal]

Wdym? I did all my penances easy. Only one I didn’t do pre-launch was Malleus Monstronum which hilariously I could’ve done how I beat up a Plague Ogryn first try 100% BB damage lmao

Solo too (I asked my teammates to just completely ignore the Plague Ogryn)

[runic gate]

Dump cleave or first target imo. Damage prio. I’m still learning but have completed 20+ damnation with my artrox mkv

[brave vale]

when u say base stats, are u talking about the stat distribution or the ilevel

[cobalt tartan]

in that case is this a decent axe?

[sleek herald]

so you did the monster one solo WITHOUT telling other people to not shoot the boss? I press X to dbout

[abstract shell]

I want to burn the world now that I know there isn't a melta-gun in the game

[vernal imp]

the stat distribution, 315 is on the low end for level 30, 380 is max, aim for 350'ish

[white badger]

Is "Quell speed" the rate at which you quell, or how fast you can walk while quelling?

[cobalt tartan]

first one

[nocturne stream]

It affects holding R

[white badger]

Thanks

[tacit fractal]

Oh yeah ofc I told them, without a question I’m not that mentally stupid to go into a mission with randoms without telling God-Emperor no

[runic gate]

Not very familiar with that blessing. Perk is not great imo. If you’re in a melee situation as Psyker you better be swinging or dodging.

[sleek herald]

oh yeah, so you need people then, if you would do them "solo" you wouldn't need to tell anyone you're doing it and noone would need to help you by not shooting

[cobalt tartan]

yeah im not worried about perks / blessings im thinking more for crafting later on, only looking at base stats for now

[sleek herald]

like no melee dmg for vet or no shooting for zealot

or even the rest of penances in the game to be honest

every penance is soloable, you don't need anyone to help you, but this one requires people to help by not shooting the thing

[mint burrow]

Oh I’m dumb

[tacit fractal]

Does that not count when you kill a Plague Ogryn alone without the Ogryn, Zealot or very tempted russian plasma rifle Veteran to not deal any level of damage to it as solo?

[mint burrow]

You get hood and goggles on lifeleech 3 I think

[sleek herald]

no, cause they are helping you to do the penance

by not shooting it

[tacit fractal]

That’s a weird way of putting it but alright

[sleek herald]

if you could do it solo then I could shoot it cause I don't need to help you in any way or form

[worn mica]

this going out with a bang penance is making me go insane

[valid marsh]

functionally no different, I have not noticed anything

[worn mica]

why would they make a penance where you have to grief your team

[tacit fractal]

Funny part was I fought against it in a place of no return where my teammates couldn’t even shoot it

[sleek herald]

to give you a proper psyker experience

[tacit fractal]

Cause the rest lot was already way ahead and it spawned close to silly young me

[sleek herald]

it probably spawned ahead, but targeted you for some reason and just moved to you through doors

[tacit fractal]

So I DID SOLO IT

[white badger]

My theory: Some dev had a bad childhood experience with a birthday magician

[sleek herald]

nah, if you asked them to not shoot it they must have ignored it while it was moving as it is always in the way while moving forward

[worn mica]

convinced a dev did it on accident and they were all like "that would make a great challenge"

i dont think people can drop weapons?

[brave vale]

350 being the sum of all the percentages?

[white badger]

I don't think they plan any form of trading, right?

[vernal imp]

pretty much

[tacit fractal]

We talked in chat wondering where it was cause apparently it was not in their line of sight at all, dude for real I did it solo why is it so unbelievably hard to comprehend

[dim cradle]

Removes scoreboard because it's toxic, adds toxic penances instead

[vernal imp]

because clearly you didn't solo it if you weren't playing by yourself in a co-op game

[tacit fractal]

Damn you’re right

I guess I have to find a bug to kill bot teammates too cause that counts for me not doing it solo

[sleek herald]

luck of the dice then

[worn mica]

what feats are yall using? I know kinetic deflection is good but other than that they all seem pretty meh

[sleek herald]

I mean we are basically a gamma-beta level psykers, some of us HAVE to go insane for that

[tacit fractal]

But why did you have such a hard on when I said I did it solo

[uneven sparrow]

Did the new update stop mk2 force staff crashes

[sleek herald]

and this penance is great way of doing so

[vernal imp]

kinetic flayer, psykinetic aura, kinetic barrage are nice, not much room for variety in our feats

[worn mica]

gamma-beta level psykers?

[sleek herald]

psyker tier? like we are gamma or beta tier psykers

[magic hull]

man this sword base stat is sexy

[tacit fractal]

Is good

[magic hull]

imagine getting deflection for it tho

[vernal imp]

pray to the omnissiah

[worn mica]

dawg im gonna keep it real I'm still learning so i didnt know psykers had tiers

i apologize

[sleek herald]

I mean we control the warp, are somewhat sane and don't get screwed by demons when reaching to the immaterium so

[tacit fractal]

Deflector would be nice yeah

[dim cradle]

I've never once seen that blessing. I'm cursed.

[tacit fractal]

Go check Melk

[magic hull]

I bought one straigh outa market

[dim cradle]

I did more than check Melk, I drank Melk 🍼 👶

[sleek herald]

yeah, alpha tier psykers are definetely insane but are able to fuck you up from another planet, betas and gammas are less powerful but on the verge of talking to imaginary friends

[tacit fractal]

I mean the perks could be obviously better

It’s still amazing

[sleek herald]

Alpha Plus are literally galaxy brains that control whole... well... galaxies

and the delta and epsilon most likely don't even know they are psykers

[tacit fractal]

Magnus the Red when he was a fetus

[sleek herald]

or no, epsilon are higher level still, but they are emperor food

[round charm]

does this blessing only apply to the "hipfire"?

[tacit fractal]

Ye

[runic gate]

Damn nice, still haven’t seen or used deflector blessing myself. I’m curious if it’s goated or a novelty flex

[elder rivet]

All melee damage is fine I guess

[runic gate]

Lmb no rmb

[elder rivet]

• max base stat ans deflector, that's a nice Sword

[round charm]

so keep it to triple fire then pause/charge?

[magic hull]

its just a flex tbh

[tacit fractal]

Deflector is still a great blessing

[magic hull]

i rarely find it useful besides being in the middle of nowhere and getting baraged by dreg gunners

[runic gate]

That’s how I feel, but I’ll have to try it. Completed plenty of damnations without it.

[magic hull]

like it only saves you if you make stupid mistakes and positioning

[runic gate]

I respect the honesty. Nice flex tho

[worn mica]

just read it, alpha plus are pretty much killed on-site unless capture is guaranteed

[long wharf]

I'm saving this for when the full crafting system is in

[runic gate]

I’d love to see a video on deflection on damnation.

[tacit fractal]

What do you go for on your fs?

[magic hull]

kinetic deflection feats won't be able to save you in damnation

[runic gate]

More dmg I’d assume

[runic gate]

Exact reason I stick with my non-flex mk v axe

[runic hornet]

Deflection works just fine on damnation

[magic hull]

usually in damnation you go for the highest dmg as possible to clean out as much enemy in the shortest time

[runic hornet]

The stamina/perils consumed seems to be based on the attack type and not damage dealt

[runic gate]

Show me a clip. I’d love to see it in action, but I have my doubts.

[runic hornet]

You can revive someone in front of a full rifle squad

which is deflector's strongest advantage

[robust meteor]

what a great psyker shop this game has

[runic hornet]

don't, like, roleplay a door-ogyrn and walk towards the enemy blocking

but it does let you get clutch revives

[runic gate]

Show me, I already know how much hype this discord has over that blessing

[runic hornet]

i'll go yolo a damnation real quick

[bronze sierra]

hows this one?

[runic gate]

Please @ me dad

Or dm

[sleek herald]

I periled all over that screen

[runic hornet]

in the closed beta it scaled with damage and it sucked

iirc

[bronze sierra]

that charge rate tho

[runic gate]

Looks good, aim for the heads

[tacit fractal]

How strong is your axe, which perks and blessings cause I wanna try that out

[bronze sierra]

i only aim for heads anyways

i would have loved a bigger blast radius

[magic hull]

base stat is good, keep it for reroll

[bronze sierra]

im gonna prob end up upgrading it

[tacit fractal]

Charge rate is the dump stat imo

[junior anvil]

what level 5 (tier 1) feat is everyone rocking?

[runic hornet]

For void?

[round charm]

is the mk2 duelling any good, or was it a different model?

[runic gate]

It’s mediocre, I’d post it but I’m putting my baby to sleep. It has bonus dmg to unarmoed and unyielding. I’d say buy one and try it out in the test range, you will see how good it feels.

[runic hornet]

Charge rate was pretty swingy I thought

like 1.8 sec down to like 1.2 at an 80%

[cyan notch]

deflection is great bc psykers suck against riflers and it helps you not get chipped down

[tacit fractal]

Mk v?

[bronze sierra]

@tacit fractal now oyu see, i live throwing out as many balls as possible

[magic hull]

yeah thats what i do too. Its great assasination tool, kinda bad for horde clearing but do really well on elites

[runic gate]

Yep! I tried the others, mk v attack angles and high damage felt great

[bronze sierra]

thats liekly just me tho

[tacit fractal]

There’s like .1-.2 difference

[bronze sierra]

still a difference

[runic hornet]

0.2 seconds adds up

[bronze sierra]

though im gonna end up rerolling eventually

[tacit fractal]

That doesn’t matter as much as the others

[runic gate]

Would love to see your axe. Mines just 20% extra dmg to unyielding and unarmoed. Purple sub 400 ilvl

[bronze sierra]

i mean fair enough i guess

[tranquil badge]

Is pick and mix penance bugged or am i dumb?

[runic hornet]

Apparently you can get +17.5% power on hit, stacking x5, as a blessing combat axe

which would let it oneshot flak scabs

[tacit fractal]

Tf

[runic hornet]

the good headtaker roll, I think

[magic hull]

these perks make it a godlike axe, even better than the force sword for my preference

[vernal imp]

yall talking antax?

[runic gate]

Head taker would be solid on a mk v

[runic hornet]

antax or acylls

i prefer acylss

[vernal imp]

mine is far from great, but i still like it

[runic hornet]

Push attack is a better horizontal than the antax and its special attack stagger ragers mid-attack

[vernal imp]

just gotta wait for that crafting system so i can get good blessings and perks

[magic hull]

Mk5 agaisnt malice enemies

I hit and forget literally

elites? what elties

[runic gate]

Mk V master race. I love to see it. I wish I swapped off dueling sword sooner ngl

@magic hull you notice lights do same or more dmg as heavies with axe lol

[vernal imp]

i still love the dueling sword, will definitely swap between them if i could get a good one

[bold flint]

hit a 39 against that rager

nice showcase

[runic gate]

Dueling sword was great until I got to heresay and damnation. Then it was not effective

[magic hull]

smh just look at the damage on the other guys

[vernal imp]

yeah, but i still like it, wouldn't use it for damnation but it's still a fun weapon

[magic hull]

i prob bonked that rager and jnot realized it

[bold flint]

hit 203 against the charger as well

[vernal imp]

i doubt i'd play a lot of damnation because it really sucks when you don't have lucky weapon drops, and i've been real unlucky since launch

[magic hull]

its alright for horde clearing, not so much for elites in my experience

[junior anvil]

Essence Harvest vs Warp Absorption vs Quiettude for toughness regen.... what's the best pick there? Like does Essence Harvest stack on itself?

[runic gate]

On damnation it’s kinda of doodoo for horde cleaning too 😦 yes it’s fun tho, big dodge range

[echo parrot]

New surge just dropped

[vernal imp]

warp absorb if you use voidstrike for sure, but quietitude is always neat

[echo parrot]

Too bad sprint efficiency

[bold maple]

dear diary, there's no force sword or staff in the shop again today

[fiery zodiac]

🤡

[junior anvil]

ty ty. Guess I'll run Quietitude as I'm using Surge Force for now

[stark snow]

I just always like quietude because it gives my ult the ability to give me quick on demand toughness if I need

[vernal imp]

essence harvest is probably good but i don't like relying on BB or the 4% for survivability

always neat to get a few quick surge casts out, then swap to melee

[hot ice]

duelling sword love

passive quell on that is just 🤤

[subtle magnet]

does quietude trigger off of passive peril decrease or only when you are holding R?

[stark snow]

any peril decrease as far as I can tell

[runic hornet]

@runic gate https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/L2fEIomWwTMZk/d13370kRfqSH?invite=cr-MSx1dlUsNDg2MDU3NTUs deflector in action. It needs to use "use perils to block" because stamina doesn't last long, but perils does, 0-100 perils is a LOT of blocking. It won't let you roleplay an ogyrn using shield special, but it WILL let you get a res off.

[tepid nest]

Which axe is it that people like for Psyker?

[runic hornet]

Note that there's like two or maybe even three shotguns in that crowd - shotguns spike your perils really fast compared to regular riflemen

[uneven sparrow]

Surge staff is the better staff right

[runic gate]

Watching now! Appreciate you sharing it

[dim pier]

Atrax Mk 5

[uneven sparrow]

Purgatus seems ass despite it having clearly better stats , I want to be electro stunning people can someone confirm

[tepid nest]

I keep rolling Mk 7 in the shop and felt insane. Thanks 🙂

[vernal imp]

surge is great for CC but not for damage, pure support, voidstrike if you want damage and purgatus for pure horde damage

trauma if you want to see funny high peril numbers

[runic gate]

That’s actually pretty nice. Power sword is great for boss fights, this is just good utility. I’ll keep an eye out for one

[leaden belfry]

Going out with a Bang Attempt # 138: Failed
Mental health: Low
Urge to cry: High

Message to the world: help

[nocturne stream]

void is best allrounder imo

[uneven sparrow]

[nocturne stream]

for quickplay that is

[jagged patio]

I found it basically impossible till going in with a group of 4 friends all in VC

then it was real fast

[leaden belfry]

wtf are friends?

[stark snow]

I've also been able to tank the demon with block/kinetic deflection on the sword. wait till just before stam runs out, ult to quell some peril, then back to holding block

[dim cradle]

If you've got the space to dodge constantly, you can dance around the demon too! Force sword has unlimited dodge

[brave vale]

wait if thats the case, then its worth it to shop for gray items that have high stats and then upgrade them right?

[nocturne stream]

yeah just look at the stats window

if it's 380 or close to 380 it's worth buying

[solar remnant]

Any recommendations for doing out with a bang, been going a little insane trying to do it with randoms

[brave vale]

fastest way to raise shop level?

[jagged patio]

dont do it with randoms

[runic gate]

Buy stuff

[nocturne stream]

just wait :^)

shit system

[spark gale]

What ish shop level

[solar remnant]

Ya this is probably the best advice lol

[nocturne stream]

get to level 30 then you can roll highest possible for now. It's all RNG but character level helps

[bronze sierra]

as does what gear youve got equipped

[spark gale]

:3c

How so Legion

[bronze sierra]

ive noticed that if ive got lower gear on it gives me lower rating thant with higher gear on

[nocturne stream]

I can equip trash gear since i haven't sold them and i get around 300+ in the shop

[spark gale]

interestink

[bronze sierra]

though i could be hallucinating

[stark snow]

I haven't noticed that tbh

and my buddy got a 380 sword the other night with crap gear on

but rng is rng

[nocturne stream]

Yeah it's just random

[stark snow]

it def doesn't effect the cap, but it might weight the rolls

[brave vale]

just to confirm following what i just said, this would be rated 365 and would be worth it

[stark snow]

yeah assuming you like the perks/blessings

[nocturne stream]

Yeah i'd say so

[stark snow]

I don't know enough about dueling swords to know what ppl look for on them

[nocturne stream]

we don't know what's to come for crafting anyway so it's hard to say. And no one knows breakpoints either

[dim pier]

Perks/blessings are rerollable, stat bars are not. It is still worth to grab a weapon with good stats but bad perks/blessings to hold onto it til perk/blessing rerolls are out

[spark gale]

most important thing on a dueling sword is the animation with one hand behind your back while using it

[dim pier]

They already confirmed there's blessing upgrades/extraction/rerolls and perk rerolls, and that they're rolling them out throughout December

[robust meteor]

breakpoints are more complex. we need a tool that takes the weapon #'s then spits out a list of things and how many and what type of swings will kill it

[nocturne stream]

Yeah but nothing about weapons base stats

still have to rely on the rng shop to get a good item base zzz

[sleek hornet]

what is a flash mission?

Eyoo i see a ruby rod pfp thats beautiful

[autumn marten]

so do we know if there are any actual plans to buff BB or soulfire yet? Or lack thereof?

[bronze sierra]

assume there arent any jax, until stated otherwise

[autumn marten]

[bronze sierra]

which leaves us in a wierd position

[nocturne stream]

We can only hope

Frankly just killing with any force stuff should have a decent chance of granting charges

would fix a lot

[bronze sierra]

our ability doesnt scale, and like 1/3 of our feats are just bad

example, quell at walk speed is redundant, jsut use a staff

[stark snow]

saw someone post on reddit an idea - starting at max charges and them generating every x seconds and BB actually removes a charge, can't use BB with no charges

thought that would fix a decent bit of stuff

[jagged patio]

yeah i have really been feeling like brainburst gets worse the higher i level.

[nocturne stream]

Biggest issue is that some monsters have insane HP while bb only deals 900 dmg. Try hitting a dog or mutant with your weapon in the trainning room then hit a regular dude. You have like 10x the dmg vs them

[bronze sierra]

i dont really use it manually anymore

[frigid sparrow]

What traits or blessings make chain lightning on the surge staff chain better? It seems very wonky

[fiery zodiac]

You think FS will ever add a list of the missions you need to complete for that one penance? I'm at 6/7 again, and I have no idea which one is left lol

[autumn marten]

dogs take 2x melee dmg and muties take 3x

[nocturne stream]

yeah it's exaggeration but point still stands. Everything scales vs them. except bb

[tepid nest]

Yes, but for now I keep notes.

[nocturne stream]

And that's ignoring it's a fucking shit ability to use. The staves feels so much better and fun to use. BB puts me to sleep for 2 seconds

[uneven sparrow]

It’s only like 7 missions in the game

🗿

[sage yacht]

It finally spawned, I waited the entire beta and up until now, a force sword with deflector blessing

[fiery zodiac]

Yeah but I want to get my penance done. Not play all seven missions trying to figure out which one I needed

[lethal plover]

another day in the life of psyker frontliner carry

peril block is just insane

the only risk is that I overestimate myself and get bitten by a dog or sth

[sage yacht]

What axe is that again

mk5?

[tough flower]

is that one penance where you have to kill a leaping pox walker with BB bugged? i've done it a few times but got no penance.

[tepid nest]

Isn't it a hound?

[lethal plover]

yep

[near gale]

It's hound

[tough flower]

is it? welp. :c

[near gale]

I got it, without knowing it was one. x.x

[lethal plover]

what's that? a crusher overhead swing? probably just the wind

[faint sigil]

why pushblock attack? eli5

[worthy wasp]

When in doubt, push it out

-mk5 users, probably

-definitely

[lethal plover]

because you stagger them and cleave the horde

[faint sigil]

like i get you dont need stamina to block

[stray cipher]

Lol have you been BBing poxbursters as they leap onto your teamates?

[tepid nest]

This is the way.

[faint sigil]

just a good cleave on that attack?

aight

[worthy wasp]

And stagger

[sage yacht]

block to cleave is a nuts combo

[shadow quail]

So what class next

I heard zealot was OP

[worthy wasp]

Why hit quell button when you can weapon swap - mk5 users

[shadow quail]

not as muchj as psyker

[main jay]

Ogryn

[near gale]

That's like a whole new level of trolling, waiting until the poxburster leaps to zap them.

[lethal plover]

the idea of a psyker playing as a tank is so fucking hilarious

[tough flower]

lol yes! XD

[shadow quail]

But it can, lol

[worthy wasp]

I legit pull Daemonhosts

[faint sigil]

it makes sense though, unchained existed/exists

[main jay]

Get the Bull Cleaver and then the Hand Grenade Launcher thing, get +toughness gained on the cleaver then have happy times as Ogryn

[faint sigil]

what is the strat for quelling?

[shadow quail]

Psyker is second best tank in the game

[stray cipher]

Oh god that's hilarious, probably pissed a couple people off doing it xD

[worthy wasp]

Oh yeah they freak dafuq out at first A LOT

"NOOOO WHY GOD WHYYYYYY"

[faint sigil]

furiously scribbling notes

[tough flower]

btw what type of back accessories you all want for psyker?

[worthy wasp]

Get a lot of surprised ppl that dont know psyker can do it

[tepid nest]

Change weapons to passive quell, ult, or hold x to quell.

[worthy wasp]

Ye my personal fav is weapon swapping to a non-force weapon

[main jay]

I use quell like I would a gun reload, basically

[faint sigil]

holding x does what? i might have rebound that

[shadow quail]

Force sword tanking is so strong

[worthy wasp]

Having to rely on the quell button sucks when you're under heavy pressure and are trying to clutch it

[tepid nest]

@faint sigil this is key.

[lethal plover]

what is x?

[main jay]

In what diffs? I've had limited success in 4/5

[tepid nest]

The button on my controller

[faint sigil]

oh im pc lol

[shadow quail]

Really?

[lethal plover]

controller?

darn

[tepid nest]

Me too.

[faint sigil]

ok well kbm

[shadow quail]

What level?

[main jay]

30

[tepid nest]

I've played too much Rocket League to not use a controller 🙃

KBM feels weird to me

[shadow quail]

I tanked a daemonhost in 4/5 earlier and barely took any damage

[main jay]

I've used it to force melee on groups of shooters seems handy for that

[worthy wasp]

Theres 1 map that gives me trouble on damnation, its super open ended at points and I havent found good places to hold yet. Cant remember name and am at work

[faint sigil]

whats the advantage to force sword, just the deflect blessing?

[lethal plover]

Next time someone says "I Can't PlAy witHOut a FronTliNeR" i'm gonna tell them I'm the tank

[worthy wasp]

Ye

[shadow quail]

no

[shadow quail]

You can spam the push all way long and part hordes like the red sea

[vernal imp]

force sword is also a boss killer, destroys assassinates, push god as well

[worthy wasp]

Aside from deflector, what can FS do that Mk5 axe cant do better?

FS is the clutch revive weap for ppl that rely primarily on staff

[vernal imp]

the axe is uglier, i say this as an axe enjoyer

[worthy wasp]

Axe is for ppl that use staff for utility and weap for kill power

[cyan notch]

yea chunks assassination bosses

[worthy wasp]

IMO

So perf for surge staff

[shadow quail]

Deflector is the point. it changes what you can do.

[worthy wasp]

Ye, FS + Void and Axe + Surge

[lethal plover]

I'm axe/surge and FS/purge guy

[shadow quail]

deflector is so strong right now

[lethal plover]

I can clear horde either way

[honest frost]

I just hope they will remove that damn penance

[dim cradle]

FS has unlimited effective dodges, deflector, a high damage special, and a push attack with HUGE single-target stagger

[vernal imp]

both are great weapons

[shadow quail]

FS is clutch

[modest magnet]

we did it boys

[elder rivet]

for penance I don't even know why did they simplify the ledge (she was rly easy) one and they didn't remove the suicide on 3 elites one and, kill a monstruosity one

[honest frost]

I’m okay with the monstrosity one, but the suicide is toxic

[dim cradle]

Suicide challenges are def questionable in coop, survival games 🤔 I understand that it's easy with a premade, but ughhhh y they do this

[modest magnet]

suicide hood doesnt match monstrosity top so idc about doing it really

swag is paramount

[elder rivet]

they also simplify the kill 5 elites with the power in less than 10 sec, now it's 12

and why we still don't have private lobby like fr

and we can't see our stats

[honest frost]

I’m actually just salty cause I needed an investigation mission to finish the penance and then the psyker goes and starts blowing himself up four times in a row

[elder rivet]

it's frustating

[shadow quail]

Next class reccomendations

[honest frost]

And now the mission is outta rotation

[shadow quail]

im thinking vet

[lethal plover]

vote to kick

[shadow quail]

😆

[lethal plover]

penance chasers are a mistake

[frigid sparrow]

Chain lightning from surge seems wonky. Do I need particular stats or blessings to make it more consistent?

[autumn marten]

quick question

what do yall think

[vernal imp]

nope, the stun isn't affected by anything stats or perks wise, just as long as you shoot the lightning at them from the start of the "shot"

[elder rivet]

well it's not horrible, but not so great too

[vernal imp]

great blessing, average staff, keep until better one

[elder rivet]

yeah it's mid

[lethal plover]

more blast radius maybe?

[elder rivet]

try to have atleast 360 rating in modifiers if you want something consistant

[lethal plover]

if you don't care about money you buy it
at this point I have too much money anyway

[autumn marten]

aight, when I get out of this mission, I'll show another one

[vernal imp]

it's not that it's bad, 342 is decent, its just the perks are real meh

[nocturne stream]

Just buy good item bases and weapons with good blessings. It'll be nice to have when rest of crafting comes

[elder rivet]

meh blast radius and charge rate a bit low

but it's not trash

it's playable until you get something better

[vernal imp]

charge rate is w/e honestly, it's milliseconds of difference if i remember right

ye

[solar loom]

What does blast radius even really do for the voidstrike staff? It's not that big of a difference as far as I can tell.

[elder rivet]

milli make good diff in hazard 4-5

[vernal imp]

it makes the explosion when it hits too many enemies / terrain bigger, not insanely needed like damage is but its nice to have

[solar loom]

Yea

[vernal imp]

as long as you got damage in the 70's and some resistance it'll do work

[nocturne stream]

quell peril really good on void tho. Allows you to spam forever

[vernal imp]

and with transfer peril you don't even need to quell most of the time, it's great

[nocturne stream]

yeah meant the blessing. 4% on weak spot means you never have to do it yourself or wait

[craggy wagon]

guys is it faster to remove peril with the hands, the staff, or the sword ?

[vernal imp]

hands is slowest, staff is fast, but always best to have non-force weapon to passive quell so you're always doing something

[craggy wagon]

non force ?

[vernal imp]

yeah, dueling sword, combat blade, literally anything except force sword

they have fast passive quell speeds

[craggy wagon]

non force weapons have fast passive quell ?

[vivid merlin]

yes

[long wharf]

yeah, it doesn't make sense

[vivid merlin]

maybe more accurately

force weapons have slow passive quell

[craggy wagon]

okay that's good to know thanks lol

oh my god okay

[vernal imp]

yeah it's more about actively quelling it with force weapons

[craggy wagon]

where do I see the passive quell stat ?

[stark snow]

anyone know off hand if warp resistance on swords affects the amount of peril used on block with deflector? I haven't tested it, maybe I will tonight, don't want to grief a party.

[hardy topaz]

That's the neat part, you don't.

[bright cipher]

Force sword also has deflector and quell peril on weak spot hit

Which combined with quietitude heals you when you hit

[hardy topaz]

(just experiment with different weapons in the Psykanium to see how long it takes to passively quell 100 peril)

[craggy wagon]

[craggy wagon]

that's exactly what I'm currently doing haha

[hardy topaz]

That's how we figured out most of how all this works.

[stark snow]

gonna need rngesus to bless your weapon though 🙂

[hardy topaz]

Just buy and save all the weapons you see with the blessings you like, even if their base stats suck. We'll be able to rip those blessings and apply them to our good weapons once the rest of the crafting system rolls out.

[craggy wagon]

I heard that yeah

[craggy wagon]

Jesus, this game is addicting and fun but man it's so unfinished

[long wharf]

a lot like Anthem, really

[plucky shuttle]

Nothing will be "like" Anthem

[craggy wagon]

Never played that, looked really cool indeed but from what I heard I didn't even bother

[edgy heart]

When fighting a monster, is it better to brain burst it, or like left click it with the staff

[plucky shuttle]

Even the devs didn't know what the game was supposed to be lmao

[hardy topaz]

Better to use weapon special attack on your Force Sword and hit it with a warp-charged heavy attack.

[potent echo]

I don't think this does that much vs plagueryn or beast

[hardy topaz]

1200-ish damage in one hit.

[potent echo]

Only vs captains

[edgy heart]

Thanks for the advice, doesn't answer my question tho

[hardy topaz]

Monstrosities tend to have upwards of 10k hp though, depending what flavor of heresy you like to play on.

[cedar blade]

bruh how are 100% of you not running the force lightning staff, that shit slaps

[potent echo]

Gaming

[hardy topaz]

Not in the damage department, but certainly in utility.

[cedar blade]

these fucking losers sitting there casting brain blast every 2 seconds when vets just snipe elites in .01secs

[leaden belfry]

well you also have to consider whether or not the armory wants to drop the staff.

[leaden belfry]

well they could be trying for the pick n mix challenge

[hardy topaz]

Yeah, that's a waste. Brain burst is great for getting enemies which disappear from line of sight in .01 secs though (dogs, bombers playing peekaboo in the trap doors, etc).

[cedar blade]

literally what im using, even if it did 1 damage, the cc would be worth more than 100000 brain blast casts

[marble aurora]

perk and blessing kinda poop but stats tho??

[flat moat]

which of these swords should I buy ?

[cedar blade]

the one with better warp res

warp res is your god stat

[potent echo]

Warp res doesn't do anything with force swords though

[hardy topaz]

bottom one

[potent echo]

What

[jovial frigate]

quite the axe in the market to log on to. sheesh

[cedar blade]

you use the special on the sword and u get peril?

doesnt the res help on that ?

[potent echo]

It's 1% I don't think it even affects anything due to rounding

[cedar blade]

well he's low level, once he gets higher level it'll matter more, but better to just teach people what stat they should priortize

[potent echo]

Definitely not warp resist

[cedar blade]

yes

use staff, get warp res, that's the class bro

[hardy topaz]

Second one has better damage, mobility and warp resist. I'd go with that.

[flat moat]

alright, I didnt know if because the top had more finese if I should go with it or not

[hardy topaz]

Finesse and First Target help, but they're not your main source of damage on the sword.

[flat moat]

and the game just crashed

[hardy topaz]

That's what you get for having the audacity to task switch.

[flat moat]

ig

[hardy topaz]

This is why I just have Discord open on my phone at all times.

[flat moat]

probably what I should be doing tbh, that might be why Ive been crashing more recently

[hardy topaz]

Also try running in true Fullscreen, rather than borderless windowed.

(borderless fullscreen, same thing)

[autumn marten]

ok, now of these two, which should I go for?

[echo parrot]

Holy mother of emperor

[hardy topaz]

Keep the purple one for the better Blessing, use this blue one until you get something better.

[autumn marten]

gotcha

[vernal imp]

blue one is great

[hardy topaz]

When we have the full crafting system, you'll be able to pull the 45 rating Blessing off that purple staff and put it on one you roll with 380 base rating between now and then.

[leaden belfry]

i want to murder every vet. I understand they are doing their job. But all the psyker challenges require elites. I just want to complete them.

[hardy topaz]

Have you tried communicating your intention to the rest of your strike team?

[leaden belfry]

yes, doesnt matter

[vernal imp]

a lot of veteran and zealot players tend to not care and just shoot big red silhouette

[hardy topaz]

Even moreso if big red silhouette has a glowing blue head.

[stray cipher]

Bonus points!

[vernal imp]

they shouldn't have glowed blue smh

[autumn marten]

ok but what about this gift from the emperor I recieved?

[hardy topaz]

I love Blazing Spirit.

[stray cipher]

No deflector, trash, I'll take it off your hands

[plucky shuttle]

I hope we get more space magic variety in the future

[vernal imp]

yall need to give me your luck with force swords, or drops in general
cause i get shit like this as my only melee weapon for sale in the shop

[runic gate]

I hope I can stop crashing

[hardy topaz]

Alright I'm going to take a nap now, see you all in Tertium when I get back up.

[autumn marten]

guess its a good thing I just found a sword with deflector on it then

[runic gate]

Get a WFH job and check on the hour and get paid

[autumn marten]

new armory reroll came through

[frigid sparrow]

Yay, more..nothing

[summer sonnet]

i love doing 99% of the monstrosities health in damage with only headburst

and not having the fucking penance count cause i died on a max grimoire run to a poxburster suicide

seems legit and totally not braindead

[long wharf]

penance counts whether you complete the mission or not

[summer sonnet]

not if you dont kill the fucking monstosity with that brainburst bud

but if you do 99% NOTHING

[jovial frigate]

skill dif

but really its annoying

[vernal imp]

it's annoying, the few times i almost got that one in random lobbies, just one dude would screw it up either by accident or on purpose

[strange sage]

probably what we have for Psykers already, but would be cool to play as a Telekine (Patience Kiss from the Ravenor trilogy for example)

[vernal imp]

all they have to do is just attack it for a single second and it's over

[pine bronze]

is ax and surge really the meta

[strange sage]

ax yea, I say Voidstrike instead of surge though

[vernal imp]

the meta is what you like the most, and to me it's peril explosion

[pine bronze]

why voidstrike

[strange sage]

cause why stagger/stun the enemy horde when i can clear it easily with the Voidstrike?

[jovial frigate]

surge would be good if it didnt hit the 6 dregs around the special

[marble jetty]

Voidstrike is better if you don’t trust your teammates

[unkempt juniper]

surge would be good if the primary fire was a hitscan lightning bolt that shocked enemies

[vernal imp]

surge on heresy+ is too good to pass

[jovial frigate]

honestly as long as you arent running around with a 30% blast radius trauma staff, you can make it work

[dim cradle]

that would be sicc ⚡

[strange sage]

voidstrike's alt attack goes through hordes like a hot knife through butter... the projectile pierces multiple enemies then explodes upon hitting a solid surface (like a wall) the only time, for me, where a surge is helpful is when i have to quell peril whilst my wrath is on cd

[unkempt juniper]

also, i really wish the staff bash attack was actually a force sword push

would be very nice

[teal cargo]

I like surge and Purg better than Void

Void I gotta aim and stuff oof

[unkempt juniper]

well you're wrong then

[cyan notch]

LOL wtf

[jovial frigate]

honestly staff attack 1 needs to be changed to not be a single target pierce for 1 damage

[teal cargo]

what you mean Im wrong about what I prefer lol

[strange sage]

i agree with stoner, but i believe we can all agree Trauma needs a rework of some kind

[teal cargo]

Pretty sure I know that better than you do 😆

[unkempt juniper]

trauma aoe indicator needs to indicate the full damage radius, as in the area where enemies take full damage from the boom

[teal cargo]

Trauma is too expensive peril wise

[strange sage]

that would be a suitable rework imo

[jovial frigate]

trauma staff was really cool for the first mission after you got it

[teal cargo]

You end up like 2 casts and overload

[unkempt juniper]

it needs other changes, but they should start with that

[vivid merlin]

trauma staff needs a lot of help to not grotesquely under perform

[strange sage]

i lucked out and got a voidstrike on the first reroll after i got the trauma

[vivid merlin]

Maybe if the radius was larger and it dropped some kind of damaging field to help you shape hordes and didn't cost as much

[restive slate]

Trauma staff should be targetable on any surface at any distance

[teal cargo]

Basically if it was just better oof

[strange sage]

if it charged faster, the amount of peril gain wouldn't be so bad

[teal cargo]

Leaving a DoT pillar would be cool

[unkempt juniper]

im going to try and use trauma on heresy now, wish me luck

[strange sage]

DoT?

[teal cargo]

as like area control

[vivid merlin]

as the horde shaping staff it doesn't shape hordes very well

[teal cargo]

You know like Corruscating in Vermintide 2

[strange sage]

ah

[vivid merlin]

you might as well use the horde killing staff

[sleek hornet]

got a purgatus staff with uninterupted secondary for a blessing

[restive slate]

I just want primary attacks for all staffs to be visually different at least

[strange sage]

as for what someone said earlier, no i don't trust teammates cause they're usually off intentionally attacking Daemonhosts leaving me to deal with the hordes that are attacking us

[teal cargo]

Purgatus is neat and easy to use but lacking any range also kinda roigh

Oh well 😔

[restive slate]

Purgatus should have fireball primary

[vivid merlin]

purgatus should not blind the user

[strange sage]

not sure if just me but that blessing seems to be broken... I still get interrupted by heretical plebians as I attempt to charge a full blast

[fading jewel]

decent?

[cyan notch]

its a gun

[magic hull]

should i?

[magic hull]

i got this one for my shop

[runic gate]

R u ok

[sharp heart]

Gunpsykers go PEW PEW PEW!

[stray cipher]

Now I want an alternate BB animation where you use fingerguns instead

[fading jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/menhera-chan-confused-gif-19816119

[restive slate]

I got a Accatran with Infernus on my Psyker, is it as useful as on Vet?

[lethal plover]

I will vote to kick if you bring it to heresy endless or damnation

[runic gate]

This

[swift lynx]

top 2 staffs?

[lethal plover]

lower than that I don't care about builds you bring

[kindred trail]

Electro and fireball

[restive slate]

You mean me?

[sharp heart]

Finger guns are best build for Heresy

[swift lynx]

so voidstrike and Surge?

[lethal plover]

there are only 4 staves. 3 of them are viable: surge, voidstrike and purgatus

[snow dust]

Purgatus seems....really weak, am I doing something wrong with it?

[sharp heart]

Purg fills a very specific role

[snow dust]

I mean surge is weak but it's ridiculous CC makes it great.

[sleek hornet]

i havent gotten uhh kicked out of it while charging it yet

i miss my surge staff tho

having a hard time breaking into lv3 difficulty

[lethal plover]

quick to whip out and stagger, then you can follow up with full spray or push

[snow dust]

Voidstrike feels like a weak veteran gun though .-.

[swift lynx]

u know now that u say that i was feeling that when i tried it. seemed weak

[sleek hornet]

doesnt need to charge like an irondrake from VT2?

[snow dust]

The damage output of surge is weak but the CC is amazing which lets your teammates basically crush things that aren't moving.

[swift lynx]

so Surge = CC got it

voidstrike for splash damage?

[snow dust]

Purgatus is just weak....and can be replaced by a grenade or zealot.

Voidstrike seems to have poor splash damage, need to test more though.

[deep rivet]

voidstrike isnt about the splash

[snow dust]

It's got more of a pierce damage through it seems like.

[lethal plover]

yeah just learn more about how to use the staves

[swift lynx]

but somehow seems the highest in damage no?

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus isn't weak.

[deep rivet]

it's about getting headshots on a straight line through the horde

[lethal plover]

you just invoked the whole channel's wrath by dissing voidstrike

[swift lynx]

lmfao

[sleek hornet]

yeah void goes through enemies the the longer you charge it

its good for straight line horde pushes on party

[swift lynx]

can someone show me there skill tree for voidstrike and surge?

[runic gate]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-boo-this-man-gif-4868055

[swift lynx]

if ya dont mind ❤️

[snow dust]

Testing it in the meat grinder, Void has like 0 splash damage. It's got aoe knockback if shot at the ground and just infinite pierce when charged it looks like.

[safe mountain]

so trauma staff has a few issues: 1. being that the actual full damage circle is smaller than the indicated one. 2. that damage scales up with charge time and with the area if it just scaled with the area it would be golden

[ornate hamlet]

It isn't infinite pierce

[lethal plover]

don't test it in meat grinder. learn how other people use them.

[sharp heart]

Trauma also has massive Peril costs vs what you get for using it

[ornate hamlet]

It's based on overkill damage.

[lethal plover]

voidstrike is free rocket spam every second

[runic gate]

It has splash and you aim for their heads

[sleek hornet]

itll stop after a while on the pierce, tested it out earlier at full charge a scab gunner or two will stop

[ornate hamlet]

If it has damage left over, it moves to the next target.

[sleek hornet]

but itll go through a bunch of u narmored or infected for a while

[runic gate]

T. H I s

[livid wraith]

if void staff penetrated bulwark shield and staggered it would be much better.

[sharp heart]

Trauma can be "decent" if you spam little circles all over the place. But at that point you should just switch to Surge or Void.

[runic gate]

If it just cleared the whole map it would be better

[deep rivet]

meat grinder lies

[ornate hamlet]

Purgatus allows you to control entire hordes without the need for ammo that a zealout would need for their flame thrower, or a grenade for anyone else.

[livid wraith]

i mean you are kind of trolling with void strike, if 4 bulwarks pop out of a wall, you arent doing anything against that.

[sharp heart]

Terrifying Barrage is just one of those Blessings I just assume is working...

[runic gate]

Post your completed damnation runs and I might consider it

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, how?

[runic gate]

Penance

[ornate hamlet]

sec...

[safe mountain]

funnily enough you get less peril if you have a better charge rate but shit warp resistance stat than the other way around

[runic gate]

I feel like purg staff just lights everyone on fire, shit walks though

[deep rivet]

yeah maybe a flamer is better, but a flamer costs ammo. purg only costs FPS

[runic gate]

This is true

[livid wraith]

flamer is like the most ammo efficient weapon in the game

[lethal plover]

flamer is a tradeoff and that tradeoff is speed and ammo

[ornate hamlet]

Which pennance?

[runic gate]

All staffs are 0 so they are actually all efficient

[lethal plover]

but it's really how the purgatus is part of the gigachad psyker kit that makes it useful

[deep rivet]

i've never used a flamer, just my mind fire

[lethal plover]

psyker blocks bullets and walks among horde

[sharp heart]

I actually wondered how those stats worked with Trauma and if you could find the perfect circle size for the Peril cost/charge time

[livid wraith]

purg staff sucks compared to flamer though.

[magic hull]

which is better?

[lethal plover]

nah you are wrong about that fam

[dim cradle]

I thought purge could stagger all elites/specials except mutants, is that not true?

[ornate hamlet]

It doesn't. It uses 0 ammo.

[snow dust]

Tested in the meat grinder, shooting head with voidstaff doesn't add extra "splash damage". It actually has pretty poor splash. It's got pierce through.

[lethal plover]

purgatus is near instantaneous for spraying

[livid wraith]

the flamer can legit hold the line by itself, only thing that gets through is crushers. bulwarks swing at you and get staggered. The purg cannot hold a line by itself.

[lethal plover]

can you start learning how it's used in practice?

[snow dust]

Why wouldn't I be able to? .-.

[ornate hamlet]

Patently false.

[deep rivet]

the meat grinder lies mostly

[snow dust]

All lies Dx

[deep rivet]

it's disconnected from the game

[runic gate]

Stuff needs to die fast in damnation, purg doesn’t do it.

[brave vale]

it can hold a line by itself

[ornate hamlet]

Also wrong.

[pure rapids]

you wanna argue about the which weapon being better at least argue in good faith

that line is so false

[deep rivet]

purg can stop an entire horde, after a few ticks it stuns

[livid wraith]

all these T3 heroes.

[deep rivet]

for rmb

[brave vale]

u also dont really need to reload

[safe mountain]

just dump warp resist and go full damage range and charge speed. You're safe when you charge to full with 60% peril.

[lethal plover]

that's you right?

[snow dust]

I must be using purgation wrong, things are still walking and smcking me in the face.

[runic gate]

Void > lightning > purg > doodoo > trauma

[ornate hamlet]

Are you sitting still while using it?

[pure rapids]

says the T3 hero

[deep rivet]

sometimes it doesn't work idk, i had a few pox bursters completely ignore my purg lmb poof stun today when eveyr other time they'd get staggered.

[snow dust]

I'm crawling away slowly (move speed penalty while flaming) and dashing backwards to try to make space.

[sharp heart]

Guns > Void > lightning > purg > doodoo > trauma

[deep rivet]

just switched back to using force sword push

[sharp heart]

Fixed it for you

[runic gate]

Get out

[sharp heart]

lol

It made you laugh admit it

[ornate hamlet]

idk what to tell you, the very reason I use purgatus is because of its massive amount of CC

[uneven sparrow]

It made me need to quell

[snow dust]

What blessings are on your purg staff?