psyker-class

[austere burrow]

psyker can also be the blocker

if you take the peril block one at 20 lol

(you should take it)

[crude cape]

does +% block efficiency perk on Curio make me use less peril when blocking with Force Sword with Deflector perk?

[dusk pilot]

That's true yeah, you could get a psyker to help as well

[stable nacelle]

I was just wondering about my talent/feat setup

the fast BB is the level 30 talent right

[austere burrow]

i used to run mind in motion, but i feel like you give up too much for it

yeah fast bb is generally the best one

[raw breach]

Closest I can guess on the third kill is that 2nd and 3rd mob were hit at the same time with flame. Chainsword activate is a damage over time effect, not immediate damage. Looked like activate was used just before 2nd mob, then 3rd mob as well but the "shred" animation was canceled when the mob died to Soulfire dot tick

[night marten]

or a soulblaze tick. one or the other.

[bleak sonnet]

bad talent

ahhh

[raw breach]

only 1 talent, "Ascendant Blaze" was selected, and it was in Psykanium

[night marten]

then that's the answer, soulblaze tick

[mellow crescent]

Will test with an axe later.

[raw breach]

it looks to me like the rip animation got cut short because the 3rd mob died to a dot tick

[mellow crescent]

Unless one of you guys can do so now.

[dusk pilot]

Ok, one thing that bothers me, the fact I can't at least see elements of my hair under the hood

[night marten]

it's already been done plenty of times

[night marten]

there's only three ways to generate charges, and only one from AB

it's death by soulblaze tick. that's it

[mellow crescent]

Then you surely have a vid to share.

[brave vale]

is this worth upgrading?

[raw breach]

Which is why I said earlier that Trauma Staff needs to be changed to Coruscation damage model and leave flame patches that apply soulblaze, because the synergy would be so good

[raw breach]

343 < 370+ stat base

[dusk pilot]

A trap layer staff would actually be an interesting idea

[brave vale]

so dont upgrade anything below 370?

[bleak sonnet]

if it has the stats u want go for it

if u cba to wait

[raw breach]

I wouldn't. I'm hesitant to upgrade anything right now and i'm just focused on getting all 4 characters to 30 this week. Hop[efully by the time I'm ready to main Psyker, crafting will be fully patched in. But as of now, weapons can roll (theorized) up to 400, but people have seen up to 385. Those base stats stay the same no matter how high you upgrade it, so generally you want them to be as high as possible before investing mats. But if it's got everything else perfect, fuck it you can get more mats.

[night timber]

wich one is best for psyker surge build plz ? 😉

[spiral remnant]

i like dueling personally

it works well with the 10% brain burst chance

[bleak sonnet]

devils claw

if u dont need to kill anything w armor often

[honest drift]

its all preference, just try stuff and find the one you like man

[bleak sonnet]

neither are ideal tho

[unkempt juniper]

this tbqh

use what you like

for melee

for ranged use voidstrike

[night marten]

use any staff but trauma imo, just make sure your melee weapon covers the deficiency of the staff you're running

[raw breach]

lol nah

Surge staff gang

[spiral remnant]

i like purgastus

[dusk pilot]

Purga needs a team to make up for it's literal shortcomings given it's range

But it's fun

[austere burrow]

surge is the only staff that doesn't slow you down while charging

hope that doesn't change

[cyan notch]

void is cool it has everything

[austere burrow]

so mobile

[dusk pilot]

Oh great, the game decides to kick me out of a match due to an error and now I'm stuck in what seems like an infinite loading screen

[mellow crescent]

alt+f4

[clear heath]

Oh that's my video you guys are talking about.
Nah, watch the video entirely and look at the warp charges gained. I did it until it happened twice cause i also had doubts on the first one.
The second warp charge was clearly on a chainsword kill that would've easily one shot the enemy. No "oh he survived and burned to death on the next frame" bs

[bright cipher]

i like how when discussing build variety and staves, no one EVER even mentions the existence of the trauma staff

[pine topaz]

what is a trauma staff?

[austere burrow]

That's because it sucks ass lol

[mellow crescent]

Might want to do another test with an axe or something else that oneshots.

[clear heath]

we are traumatized

That chainsword one shots them just fine

Just not on weapon special, which is why i stopped doing it early on

[austere burrow]

But more importantly there's no reason to use it

[cyan notch]

surge kinda does what trauma does but better

[austere burrow]

Purge is a funny meme build

Surge and void are solid

Trauma is ??

[night marten]

sigh

this game

[cyan notch]

keep it till fatshark buffs it

[austere burrow]

That's gonna go so hard once trauma gets buffed

[clear heath]

lmao

[flint sky]

good base rolls
trauma

[spice maple]

You mean when the other staffs get nerfed

[flint sky]

Pain

[austere burrow]

Why would they nerf the other staves

[flint sky]

Mr fatshark please no

[austere burrow]

Don't jinx it

[spice maple]

Because I am the fat shark

[flint sky]

Psyker isnt veteran

[clear heath]

so ture

[spice maple]

I just want more force weapons in the melee slot

A little variety so there’s something to generate peril while in melee

[austere burrow]

Force sword with a better moveset pls

[clear heath]

force chainsword

[plush cipher]

Hello Psykers, Zealot here letting you know I appreciate you.

[fallow meadow]

I guess trauma will get a fix in some point.

[flint sky]

Why? We dont appreciate us

[clear heath]

What should they do with trauma?

[flint sky]

Put it in the bin

[fallow meadow]

longer casting range, less peril. At less

[cyan notch]

the range is garbage yea

[cedar blade]

dont do that, they all think they are the elite killer class when it's obviously zealot and vet

[near wyvern]

I guess this is a decent axe?

[cyan notch]

trauma is basically sienna's conflagration staff and nobody uses that either

[austere burrow]

Would be nice if the max damage/stagger radius was bigger

[plush cipher]

Thunder hammer IS the psyker

[flint sky]

It was marketed as such

Right now we are relegated to staff slave exclusively

[cedar blade]

and it isn't, so cc like you're suppose to

[clear heath]

I used to use conflag staff to flashbang my friends, but that doesn't work in darktide.....

[flint sky]

I will until fatshark adds more build variety

[night marten]

time for bed, reminder that BB needs help/to scale, soulblaze should be buffed, warp charges and/or feats should be tweaked, and that psyker in general doesn't compete with vet at basically anything except not needing ammo. and that's not how a class niche should be defined. o/

[boreal wave]

Yes, siblings. Let us disregard all of our class abilities and just fall back on gimmicky surge spam. Clearly it's all we're good for.

[clear heath]

They should add a giant bright flash to trauma staff so i can inflict some real trauma

[flint sky]

Thunderhammer is pretty meh atm, needs a damage boost for the higher tiers

[flint sky]

Based and gn

[leaden needle]

the salt in this thread has reached critical levels

[austere burrow]

I've been less doomy about psyker lately

The surge cc is actually genuinely useful

[flint sky]

I will stop being doomer when I get to stop using surge

[clear heath]

I've become more doomy after making a vet and realizing how much stronger it is

[leaden needle]

as soon as you b uy any mk xii you are more useful than lvl 30 psyker xd

[dreamy mural]

which one better ?

[fallow meadow]

We are psyker! Salt is what we spread around!

[mint burrow]

How is pick n mix even possible

[austere burrow]

Yeah you just have to accept that you're a support lol

[mint burrow]

Been trying for hours multiple different ways

[austere burrow]

Leave the real killing to the vet

[crude cape]

psychic communion is a bad talent? why?

[flint sky]

Desperately hoping I'm out dps'd by a psyker when I have a bolter. lol. lmao.

[austere burrow]

It's not bad

[boreal wave]

I would say the staff on the right. I've never noticed a difference with Warp Fury.

[austere burrow]

Just kinda selfish

The cd reduction aura is insanely useful for your team

[crude cape]

so I just got this from an emperors gift....not tried a real flame staff build yet. Is this any good?

[flint sky]

I'd say left because of quell and stagger uptimes but that charge is kinda oof

[boreal wave]

When we're allowed to get warp charges in any other way, I'll consider using another feat in that tier.

[austere burrow]

I've just decided to not care about warp charges

They don't matter

[bright river]

idk if purgatus can crit 🤔

[clear heath]

I use them for the peril resistance

[flint sky]

It doesnt have to be this way siblings we can rise up from under fatsharks boot

[mint burrow]

It can

[bright river]

otherwise quell speed/warp resistance is useless on a purgatus staff

[bleak tulip]

just dont do any active upkeep on stacks and youre fine

[flint sky]

Correct choice really

[clear heath]

I just let the 4% and 10% feats do all my warp charges for me

[flint sky]

12% damage for having to juggle bb every 25 seconds is entirely inefficient

[austere burrow]

Ya

I just run auto head pop

If I get it I get it

[clear heath]

i love being forced to take feats to plug holes in the psyker's kit

[fallow meadow]

I pick that skill to halp getting a nice cloth. That's all

[austere burrow]

If not oh well

[flint sky]

Meanwhile vet gets 50% damage on demand with a click of f

[bleak tulip]

if you hordeclear you should always get it

[flint sky]

Cool class fatshark

[boreal wave]

And superior statlines to the zealot for melee, and one of the best melee weapons in the game.

[austere burrow]

The opportunity cost of 4% is kinda big though

Cd reduction keeps everyone alive

[bleak tulip]

I low key dont want only the damage on warp charges get buffed, then I have to BB to upkeep it and I hate using BB at this point

[flint sky]

I wonder which class is the favoured one?

[hot ice]

warp stacks should decay instead of disappear all at once

[flint sky]

Scaling damage for bb is the way

[bleak tulip]

yea

[clear heath]

vet-only players telling themselves they're the squishy ranged dps class when they're the tankiest class with the strongest melee weapon in the game

[boreal wave]

I have a feeling the devs were IG fans. Not that that's a bad thing, but holy cow did they not hide their power level

[bleak tulip]

grass always greener

until it is

[clear heath]

lmao

[fallow meadow]

50%peril cool down is not bad. I think is V's active is a bit op compare to the others.

[flint sky]

I'm playing vet rn it most certainly is greener

[clear heath]

same

[flint sky]

Its absurd how good this class feels in comparison to psyker

And I have actual build variety too

[wicked grove]

So...how do you guys do the pick and choose penance?

[clear heath]

why does it have 200 toughness? fatshark works in mysterious ways

[flint sky]

Its sweet

[hot ice]

vet doesnt have cool flame staff tho

[cyan echo]

"So it can fight at range"

[hot ice]

its to encourage trading in gunfights against enemies

[flint sky]

[magic hull]

its good yeah

[wicked grove]

I've been struggling to find 5 unique specials/elites in Heresy.

[mint burrow]

It’s fine

[hot ice]

they should've made them take less dmg from range on their toughness innately tbh

[wicked grove]

So is this just a thing that'll happen in time or nah

[mint burrow]

I did it

[bright mica]

Honestly with the new fixed toughness, health is a far more important stat than total toughness for survivability

[mint burrow]

Doesn’t have to be unique

Just did it

[flint sky]

It already was before the change

[bright mica]

Real

[bleak tulip]

been playing vet until 9 and I refuse to keep playing it

[mint burrow]

I’ve been trying for hours I’m so happy I got it done

[wicked grove]

It says different.

[mint burrow]

It says wrong

[wicked grove]

So I don't need 5 different typesm

[mint burrow]

Nope

[bleak tulip]

I started playing zealot to get my melee focused class in

[wicked grove]

I just need to kill 5 in 12?

[flint sky]

Vet is the only class where toughness matters thanks to its little feat for ranged pod damage negation

[orchid nest]

The wording is weird but he is right, is can even be all 5 same elite

[mint burrow]

Just did it against 5 gunnera

Yeah

[bright mica]

Yeah ngl, Vet is my last class to lvl 30 and I'm so bored levelling it rn

[raw breach]

I realized earlier what it reminded me of, the Outcast Engineer Crank Gun pressure stacks mechanic from VT2. There was a talent I always took to make the stacks last longer to not have to deal with that mechanic lol

[wicked grove]

I wish the vets on my teams would let me kill 5 gunners in a row...

[hidden coral]

They can if you build for them haha. Built towards Warp Charges, I constantly have max stacks for +12% damage, reduced peril costs while spamming my voidstrike into the horde (both these points help my team), and they're constantly giving me toughness from all the killing I'm doing

That's not to say -cdr per Elite kill aura is worse, but there's a reason Psychic Communion can be really popular haha

[wicked grove]

They always fucking kill them before my BB pops...

[mint burrow]

Ik it’s a pain

[flint sky]

Oh shit you right

[mint burrow]

I’ve been trying for days

[bleak tulip]

gotta get a group, youll never get it naturally, like most psyker penances

[hot ice]

thing is, cranking on OE isnt as annoying as BBing to keep stacks up

[austere burrow]

Void strike doesn't need peril resistance

[wicked grove]

I got the chest piece. The Malleous Monstronum

[austere burrow]

Like I get what you mean

[boreal wave]

"I wish they'd let me kill x" is more a problem wih the design of penances than the classes, to be honest. Fatshark makes a co-op game, then designs penances around what is effectively greedy solo play. Good job.

[raw breach]

True, because Crank Gun actually did work once you got your stacks up. BB still costs a ton and casts slowly

[mint burrow]

It’s nice

[hidden coral]

It can! Depends on the density of what you're firing. Also, getting to have lower peril after having it high is nice

[clear heath]

Nah toughness is way more important.
vet's 200 toughness is blocking way more damage than an ogryn's 300 health just cause you're regenerating it much more often

[mint burrow]

I liked that penance ngl

[hot ice]

fr

[wicked grove]

Same with Vet penances...you actively play against your team.

[bright mica]

Honestly the only staff that makes good use of it is Purgatus, I've actually seen someone suggest taking a low Warp Resistance Surge Staff so you can vent peril for toughness more often lmao

[bleak tulip]

at least its not all better in vet land lmao

[austere burrow]

Lmao

[bleak tulip]

also vet doesnt get voidstrike, checkmate

[flint sky]

Do you have to literally kill yourself or solo a boss?

[wicked grove]

Thank you for wisdom cousin. May the emperor bless your path!

[austere burrow]

Yeah I could see purg wanting peril resist

[flint sky]

Plasma guns the horde

[austere burrow]

Void is so efficient that you never cap anyway

[hot ice]

its single target tho

[bleak tulip]

see thats what I mean, plasma is a pain from what Ive seen

[austere burrow]

Even without quell peril on weakspot

[flint sky]

Or uses braced autoguns if my friends schizophrenic ramblings are true

[bleak tulip]

hurt yourself just cooling off, gotta reload

[raw breach]

With the bleedthrough mechanic, toughness being at least 100+ is pretty valueable. But then there's so many things that negate your toughness bar too

[wicked grove]

You have to literally alt+f4. Play far away from the team so you don't regen ammo. You have to quit literally play against your classes strengths

[hidden coral]

I mean you would cap eventually without that blessing

But also

[wicked grove]

Psyker....at least tells you to play the class as intended

[bright mica]

and Purgatus is so much better than Zealots flamer; infinite ammo, can proc warp charges, literally heals the user on kills, near instant switch-time (Flamer takes as long as bolter lmfao)

[hidden coral]

Being able to not worry about peril while firing into lower density is nice

And if you're trying to lower your peril, warp resistance helps with that too!

[austere burrow]

Does warp resist speed up auto quell

[flint sky]

..by killing yourself and spending 18 minutes kiting a boss that wont matter if a stray shot from a friend hits?

[bleak tulip]

idk killing yourself to blow up 3 specials isnt intended tbh

[hidden coral]

Don't believe so

[wicked grove]

Tbh that's just bad penance design.

[hidden coral]

It's elites btw, specials straight up dont count. Saw my friend almost cry after finding that out

[bright mica]

I think the bleedthrough is based on your toughness percentage. So a Veteran with 199 toughness will take health damage from the next melee hit.

This kinda incentivises you to get back to your toughness cap ASAP rather than stacking toughness curios.

[olive ember]

Don’t remind me I spent 6 hours from 12 AM to 6 AM to get those two

[wicked grove]

Also just terrible design.

[hot ice]

actually to be fair, they made it so you only need to do 90% of the dmg, still shit, but its not as shit lol

[flint sky]

Its beyond terrible its braindead

[bright mica]

It's very doable with an Ogryn friend and a demonhost. Just have them shield special and brainburst for 3 minutes.

[wicked grove]

I did mine with a squad. Ogryn just sat there while Deamonhost slapped him

[bright mica]

Yup

[hot ice]

this, still a shit penance

[hidden coral]

But having high toughness means it falls slower. Being able to take multiple melee hits in a row and not really being hurt is very nice. Also ye, toughness helps a lot when fighting ranged boyz

[clear heath]

Wouldn't be as horrible if we could make private lobbys

[bright mica]

so is every penance, terrible system incetivising throwing the game

[flint sky]

I have it it's still shitty design

[wicked grove]

The only normal penances are ogryn.

[bright mica]

Real

[olive ember]

In a sense it’s even worse because the penance isn’t even challenging just stupid and convoluted to get

[bright mica]

Ogryn ones incentivise good gameplay while Veterans is like "lol whjat if you didnt use a gun as a ranged career?"

[near wyvern]

Warp resistance on it sucks. You want warp resist and quell over anything else

[orchid nest]

I did mine on a beast of nurgle and then the very next game there was the most free daemonhost imaginable chilling at the very beginning with a shield ogryn in the group still

[wicked grove]

Okay guy.

I'm a vet main. The vet challenges are stupid. Literally goes counter to the character. Only a few are stuff you get naturally.

[rare sedge]

What L5 talent are people using for Toughness regen

[hot ice]

from what i remember, at least V2 didnt have/have very little of challenges that go against what a team-game stands for

why is it so different in DT

[hidden coral]

Woah woah

Ogryn got the worst ones haha

[bright mica]

Rip warp resistance, the best dump stat on Purgatus is actually quell speed because even at 20% it is fast enough lol

[wicked grove]

So you doing this oppression politics don't work on me.

Both classes have TERRIBLY designed penances

[hidden coral]

Bowl over 6 Ogryns at once?

[raw breach]

That's a really interesting point. Figuring out the exact mechanics will be important and I'm sure someone will do it soon, but there's a Curio perk for 5-20% toughness regen speed. might be BiS for everyone?

[wicked grove]

That one's bs

[hidden coral]

Stay with a teammate a whole match?

[flint sky]

Bruh what I'm completely off the psyker vet penance meme

I was talking about the shitty boss bb spam penance

[austere burrow]

Quietude

[hidden coral]

Warp charge one

Gives nice passive tankiness as long as killing is happening, and makes brain burst firefights even safer

[rare sedge]

Yeah I heard that ones nice, cause its not just manual venting, but all sources including your ult?

[austere burrow]

Warp charge one is kind of unreliable in my experience

[bright mica]

The toughness speed perk is fantastic yeah, especially on passive regen feats like Veterans or Zealots. Probably stacks with Ogryns +100% toughness regen (which works with perks like Momentum lol)

[olive ember]

Ngl I saw IG and my monkey brain went “insect glaive”? “Monster hunter?”

[hot ice]

depends on weapon and/your playstyle

[austere burrow]

Yeah auto quell and ult both work

[bleak tulip]

quietude is the most consistent, I like the second one on void because I get to refill my entire fuckin toughness bar in one right click if I hit enough shit

[orchid nest]

purgatus warp charge, voidstrike absorption, surge quietitude

[hidden coral]

It's worked out well for me! ANd if I desperately need the toughness

[rare sedge]

Nice

[hidden coral]

I can BB a gunner or something

[olive ember]

A bb build revolving around 6 charge + warp cooldown could be cool, if BB wasn’t complete trash

[hidden coral]

Does quietude work with passive quell btw? Never tested but, if so that sounds nice

[near wyvern]

Yeah I have noticed I do better when I weave in purgatus left clicks with duelling sword melee

Purgatus go stagger, 2 hits with duelling and repeat

The right click seems to only be nice if there is a horde coming through a good choke. The left click stagger is much more useful.

I also have the run 'n gun (can hipfire while sprinting) and that seems to help a lot with closing gaps and coming to save team mates from ragers.

[orchid nest]

Yes

[olive ember]

Yes

[hidden coral]

Nice

[clear heath]

It is based off percentage, but so are sources of toughness regen.
Stacking toughness works better than health because it takes less time to regen it all.

If i take 30 toughness damage at 300 max toughness, i only need to regen 10%.
If i take 30 toughness damage at 200 max toughness, I need to regen 15%, which takes longer. I'll also take more health damage because my percentage is currently lower

[rare sedge]

Purgatus warp charge I'm assuming because it can't really kill outside of the 10% brain burst chance.

[clear heath]

Every source of toughness gain being % based is what makes toughness stacking so useful

[orchid nest]

It's the main reason using a non force melee is nice with it, because they passive quell much faster

[bright mica]

See I thought that way too, until I tried stacking health and got far better results even on squishier classes like Psyker.

[rare sedge]

Void strike based on kill makes sense, just haven't rolled a good one (or any lol)

[olive ember]

But I’m pretty sure grim corruption is a set amount of hp so +maxhp is particularly helpful on psyker in that regard

[bright mica]

I'm running +1 Wound / Health / Health on all my characters (Except Ogryn which is triple Health, you don't need anymore wound lmao)

[bright mica]

That too yup

[bleak tulip]

I have yet to try quietude with transfer peril on void actually, I imagine that might also count for it

[spark gale]

Does Psyk take wound damage from something like being near max peril? I feel like I get wounds even when my toughness isn't broke sometimes

[bright mica]

Yes and its the best perk on it

[boreal wave]

I do think the staves would be improved by giving them unique primaries though. Void can keep the small warp missile. Purge already has its little handwave thing. Surge should maybe get a single target hold for continuous damage beam of lightning. And trauma... I dunno.

Trauma's theme from a visual standpoint is that there's no visible transfer of magic. No missile involved. So maybe it should get a hitscan explosion of force against a single target, making it a more valuable ranged weapon since you can't really miss with it. Then the exploding ground thing can be used on close range targets.

[raw breach]

Corruption from Grimoires

[rare sedge]

I just can't wait until I've got 3 good curios for stamina regen, Toughness regen, and block efficency. VT2 has shown BCR and Stamina Recovery as the best properties so I'd like to see if that's still the case here.

[hot ice]

aim for the head at a horde and watch your perils melt away

[bleak tulip]

I mean its just straight up less regen per kill, the only upside is force sword active regen which is low key a waste of time

[bright mica]

Give trauma corsuc. staff shotgun blast

[olive ember]

Wounding is just the number of segments your hp bar has. You mean corruption?

[raw breach]

give trauma corusc flame patches that apply soulblaze

[spark gale]

Yeah, das what I meant. Nice floofer in your avie btw

[bright mica]

Real

[near wyvern]

Trauma should be able to pick a target up an levitate it so you can pick up a mutie and just throw them off a ledge 😂

[bleak tulip]

oh I see, yeah I use transfer peril on void already that shit is goated, I just mean trying to run quietude with it
doesnt seem as good as absorption

[olive ember]

Thx and no they don’t get corruption at high peril unless you blow yourself up, at which point you treat it as a normal down

[austere burrow]

Yeah but you still have quietude for the cases where you're not killing stuff

[bleak tulip]

when im not killing stuff, do I need toughness?

[austere burrow]

Yes

[bleak tulip]

thats when you coherency regen

[spark gale]

ig my toughness is broken more than I realize then. I feel like it's always the ranged enemies that do most damage to me; gunners I think they're called.

[austere burrow]

Sometimes you get hit and need to duck behind cover for a bit

[spark gale]

I'm level 22 and playing mainly on Malice and sometimes heresy btw

[cyan echo]

You're saying the Vets arent focusing on ranged enemies? 🤡

[olive ember]

With void strike I’d actually run the 10% on force kill since that’s basically 10% toughness per poxwalker

[clear heath]

If gunners are the main things hurting you, toughness is even more important. Melee hits through toughness by a small percentage. Ranged gets full blocked

[spark gale]

[hot ice]

yeah, bullets and lasgun shots do that

[bleak tulip]

just feels bad that the most you get out of F on quietude is 25%

[spark gale]

What vets? I'm always with 2 other Psyks and wombo comboing off the lightning holds with my void staff then fourth preacher

[olive ember]

I feel they shred on high difficulty so like even with 50 more toughness that’s like one extra hit

[bleak tulip]

slide

[olive ember]

Meanwhile corruption is just a huge pain in the ass and max hp counters that

[bleak tulip]

never not slide

[boreal wave]

I have the opposite problem. Dodging constantly in and out of cover has made most ranged enemies trivial. It's when the game desides to spawn stuff right behind me that I get screwed

[hot ice]

do grims take a flat amount of hp or %?

[austere burrow]

Learn the forbidden movement tech

👀

[spark gale]

Is there any benefit at all to the staff melee attack or is it just for style points? Seems completely useless from what I've played so far

[clear heath]

I don't really bother with grims in higher difficulties, but there's corruption resistance if i wanted to build for it

[bleak tulip]

grims take flat iirc

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/f1716ae11acf9c8125c231e62310bf20
worth picking up?

[olive ember]

I feel flat otherwise there’s no reason I’m at like 1/5 of my health and the ogryn is still sitting comfy at 1/2

[wicked grove]

Tbh if I see people pick up grims in malice I just quit. The xp and rewards you get from grims is not worth the effort you do for them.

[hot ice]

ah so it isnt changed from the beta

thought it might've, idk why lol

[spark gale]

But think of the forbidden knowledge

[austere burrow]

Grim on malice is fine

[boreal wave]

I would pick up that staff and either use it (it's better than any of my surge staffs) or just hold on to it for when crafting comes out and you can replace Terrifying Barrage

[hot ice]

also i think you got the fractions the other way around

[wicked grove]

Give me good rewards.

[raw breach]

bruh... just got an orange emperor's gift, Mk III Combat Blade lol

[hot ice]

[olive ember]

Well yeah but max hp does the same but also helps out in general

[clear heath]

I'm fine with grims on malice
People who grab grims on heresy scare me

[spark gale]

I just want the preacher hood. Why don't mages get more hoods. Unplayable c:

[wicked grove]

If people grab grims on heresy I also quit.

I'm not playing that bs

[hot ice]

fr

scrips are fine, grims are a big "but why?"

[austere burrow]

I think heresy grims would be fine if they weren't permanently endless horde

[olive ember]

Hah bold of you to assume random pubs even last long enough to reach a grim

[cyan echo]

I think people are more afraid of Heresy just because its always Endless Horde

when you play it with a diff modifier like vent purge or blackout or so ,its not that bad

[tropic halo]

there's low intensity heresy but it's not as fun as high intensity heresy

[boreal wave]

I love heresy. Just... never had a pub that was able to do it in my recollection. Always a blast with friends though

[hot ice]

vent purge shits on my performance more than it did during the closed-beta

[cyan echo]

Right! You play it for the challenge

[hot ice]

what did they do

[cyan echo]

I've had many good heresy runs with pubs, no problem

[austere burrow]

But yeah ultimately the reward of grims isn't really worth the effort

[cedar blade]

when do i unlock the good staff

[olive ember]

I’ve gotten like 5 who beat it, but all on like the same two missions

[austere burrow]

Wow more money

[bleak tulip]

maybe if they added a guaranteed item after the mission that maybe scales with grims or something like that, man if only, what a concept
I think some other game did that before, dont remember though

[languid cradle]

Ogryn here, love takin me slab shield in-case a random spark 'ead needs their monster penance on 'eresy. Keep chewin em up.

[hot ice]

cash ordo dockets is king

[boreal wave]

I like to horde diamantine and Heresy and Damnation are where you go for lots of that

[cyan echo]

Damnation is a tough nut though, everything is just so tanky

[austere burrow]

I need plasteel

[olive ember]

Malice is easier quicker less effort higher completion rate

It’s like 35-50 Diamantine per malice run

[hot ice]

i remember hearing the amount of diamatine/plasteel is the same on heresy and damnation, dont know if true tho

[tropic halo]

hell yeah. dodging two snipers while handling two unyielding ogyrns and a teammate's down? that's where you see if your gear and build is truly up to snuff

[clear heath]

yeah but heresy is more fun

[spark gale]

Does transfer peril proc when you get a big group kill with the charged up attack?

[boreal wave]

Yeah but my friend is an MLG tryhard sweat vet and I feel inadequate if I'm not doing at least Heresy

[bleak tulip]

yes

[austere burrow]

There's definitely more on damnation

[cyan echo]

poxwalker horde with maulers and crushers all peppered in

[austere burrow]

Anecdotally

[hot ice]

ok

[candid monolith]

seems to with voidstrike

[spark gale]

Seems op O:

[bleak tulip]

you can basically vent peril with void attacks if you hit enough shit

I mean it is pretty much the god roll blessing

for void

[spark gale]

mmm

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-mandalorian-beg-reach-pls-gif-16414611

[olive ember]

My friend group is… def more casual? They wanted to quit after failing 3 heresies in a row so… I’m stuck with randoms who are worse than them rip

[austere burrow]

I wish damnation queue wasn't so dead

Have to find a group to run it

[midnight forum]

Btw what "personaly" did you choose for your psyker?
I went with lonely, bitter distanced one and oh my, it fits the setting bit too much

[hot ice]

sometimes it just isnt your night, thats when we just run malice

[robust meteor]

tanking daemonhost on malice was effortless wtf

[spark gale]

best heresy run I had so far was with all 4 players as psyks.

[hot ice]

my beloved

love the seer

[clear heath]

I'm slowly making my friend group become less casual. We're easing into heresy runs with lower intensity

[boreal wave]

The French woman

[austere burrow]

4 psyker is fun

[spark gale]

the mage's guild

[olive ember]

Didn’t help that my group didn’t run proper team comp. I think we had like 2 bolters, a stubber, and a surge staff… zero dedicated range and zero horde clear

[austere burrow]

Flexible enough to work lol

[bleak tulip]

fem seer is the only voice that isnt grating to me, shame she also gets some of the least fun lines

[ember kiln]

She seems like the nicest to everyone haha

[bleak tulip]

still wouldnt change tho

[boreal wave]

I like it aside from the awkward... uh. How to say this without coming off as an ass

[midnight forum]

I went with slight german one... female savant I think?

[hot ice]

team comp makes all the difference, imo, skill helps but its a lot easiser with a good team comp

[clear heath]

male loner psyker voice is the best imo

[spark gale]

the only prob with that game was we were all head popping the same shit and on things that took more than one hit to head pop that was fine but on other stuff, we ended up having me and next lowest level head poppers

[austere burrow]

I had a funny psyker moment today

[ember kiln]

Think fs will add the option for us to change voice/height?

[austere burrow]

I accidentally aggroed the demonhost

[boreal wave]

Stuck in a horde. Group's getting overrun. Sniper on a ledge no one can reach. Guy trying to restart the data interrogator just died.

"Why is it that Ogryns are so mistreated?"

[austere burrow]

Tanked it for 5 mins

[midnight forum]

It's the only one in my experience that actually cares about those who work in manufactorum

[austere burrow]

Ogryn was confused by why I didn't die lol

[cyan echo]

Psyker can tank anything

[full coral]

what blessing would be the best to get on a surge staff?

[spark gale]

how are you tanking on psyker

[bleak tulip]

kinda hope they dont, height already is a minor gameplay influence and feeling compelled to change it feels bad imo

[olive ember]

I like the contrast of the seer who actually seems normal most of the time, and then he goes high peril and starts saying “Such Power!” while laughing maniacally

[cyan echo]

Block with Peril, Deflector

[bleak tulip]

having a buncha min sized psykers around feels boring

[spark gale]

ohhh ok never tried that

[austere burrow]

Block with peril is insanely good

[clear heath]

I'm tempted to switch to peril block
but i'm too used to being able to walk fast while quelling

[bleak tulip]

warp flurry

[spark gale]

I'll give it a try

[austere burrow]

Because auto quell happens when while you're blocking

[ember kiln]

Well made mine small as possible so I can hide in cover better. I played Ogryn first haha

[boreal wave]

The French psychers are friendly and nice but oh my goodness we're all gonna die this isn't the time to try and push social justice for Ogryns

[mint heart]

Someone got a guide for Psyker on heresy/damnation?

[cyan echo]

i've been playing as Veteran, and it sure feels easier, but i think Psyker is more fun

[midnight forum]

The savant voice?

[olive ember]

Yeah I recently switched from mind in motion which I’ve used since closed beta and objectively speaking peril blocking is amazing, but damn that move speed screws with me now

[spark gale]

I keep trying to shoot enemies but the clap of the Ogryn's dummy thicc ass is too loud and he's too big for me to see. I play max height size and I mainly crouch in choke points for my short kings

[cyan echo]

isnt Savant the african voice?

[boreal wave]

I thought it was French

[bleak tulip]

dont use guns, only surge or void, dont BB

[olive ember]

Run surge staff, cc everything

[bright cipher]

anyone else noticed Terrifying Barrage doesnt work the way the perk is written?

[austere burrow]

You just have to get used to swapping to staff

[olive ember]

Someone told me it’s French-African or something

[clear heath]

become stun grenade

[spark gale]

It's jamaican I'm p sure

[olive ember]

French-jamaican

[bright cipher]

i always take mind in motion if im using a surge staff

[midnight forum]

I got bored of chasing higher numbers... on yellow powersword
And psyker is more skill demanding imo

[bright cipher]

because youre quelling so much with it

[hot ice]

literally me

[austere burrow]

Staff vent either doesn't get buffed by mind in motion or it does so by a small amount

[hot ice]

vet was the first class i played in the CB, and from preorder beta to release, it was the class I max levelled first

then tried psyker and fell in love instantly

[olive ember]

The move speed difference isn’t as noticeable if you quell with staff yea

[hot ice]

having way more fun on it

[boreal wave]

Adroit is a french word so I kind of concluded it was some sort of French

[magic hull]

BB feels odd with elite auto target now

[bleak tulip]

"now"?

[boreal wave]

Does BB prefer elites?

[bleak tulip]

yes it should

[boreal wave]

I struggle to pick them out in a horde

[bleak tulip]

but it often doesnt work right

[robust meteor]

mind in motion is just your normal walking speed, can't sprint

[boreal wave]

I know in later beta they took it away

[bleak tulip]

found it more consistent when you ping em first

[austere burrow]

I'm not sure if it actually magnets to elites

[cyan echo]

its in english as well

[bleak tulip]

nah it still locks onto them a bit, just not as well as before

[austere burrow]

Or if elites are just taller

[hasty wolf]

i struggle A LOT to target specifically ogryn elites in a horde, for some reason

[austere burrow]

Ogryn are easy

[bleak tulip]

ping em, seems to help

[boreal wave]

Yeah but I don't think a single native English speaker in the entire world has said "Adroit" in the last 24 hours

[hot ice]

is mind in motion even worth it when you can slide dodge while quelling, quelling is fast af anyway with a staff, and you're giving up kinetic deflection?

[clear heath]

I feel like it might just be the fact that they're taller

[austere burrow]

Just aim above them

[cyan echo]

Are you american by any chance? 😉

[hot ice]

feels like its just objectively weaker than kinetic deflection

[boreal wave]

I am

[midnight knoll]

I haven't seen a single Psysword in the shop for a week...

[worthy wasp]

In my eyes, the peril while moving talent is the most useless talent ever

[cyan echo]

Probably not used much in american english, is my guess!

[austere burrow]

I fully agree tentacle

[olive ember]

In the closed beta BB prioritized elites (jsat had a video where he mentioned it projects a cone, scans for elites/specials first , then normal enemies)

It also staggered on cast.

They made both of these things jank as hell now

[boreal wave]

Look I'm just saying I ain't hearing no one say "Oh my God these are adroit potato chips" in the U.S.

[near wyvern]

I like to use it with purgatus, helps mee to keep me mobile to avoid getting hit in the first place. Dodge + walking speed gets you out of trouble a lot safer.

[ornate hamlet]

Hey can anyone show me a picture of the Nasra Mindwalker cosmetic?

[cyan echo]

Yes and that's probably expected for the US, I think its probably used more in the UK

[hot ice]

but slide dodging exists, it gives you so much distance by itself already

[bleak tulip]

I should properly try out kinetic deflection sometime, 33% less ranged damage to toughnees does seem too good tho

if you block as psyker youre already fucking up

[proven ocean]

It’s cool to admit you learned a new English word today. Learning is good. Sharpen the mind

[bleak tulip]

unless you actively plan on doing it

[austere burrow]

Nah

[clear heath]

deflector

[near wyvern]

You do you. You can definitely live without it for void, I like to run it with surge and purgatus

[austere burrow]

It let's you pick up people in a crowd

[bleak tulip]

you can already do that

[robust meteor]

i tanked a daemonhost on malice with it and my peril never went above 25%

[boreal wave]

I'm not saying it's not an English word. But it is borrowed from French.

[austere burrow]

Going ogryn mode

[olive ember]

I mean idk why there are people who legit believe you should never block only slide and dodge

[bleak tulip]

you even get the bigger stam bar for picking up

[hot ice]

might try it out for a few games then

[austere burrow]

But you don't have to worry about stamina

[ornate hamlet]

does anyone have the Nasra mindwalker cosmetic who can show me what it looks like?

[olive ember]

I had people saying the ogryn shield was trash and you should only run knife or club and slide into battle

[bleak tulip]

yeah im aware of this but thats not really a core gameplay reason to bring it imo

[cyan echo]

Boy do I have a surprise for you, like 40% of english is french loanwords 😄

[hot ice]

lmao whaaaaa

[bleak tulip]

I sure as shit get shot a lot more than I need to block demonhosts

[hasty wolf]

can someone suggest a map and area to do the 300s warp charges penance

[near wyvern]

Plus when you need to do that occasional BB you don't have to swap weapons to quell that 3% off you while moving

[boreal wave]

I am well aware.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/great-chat-wave-smile-well-then-fuck-me-gif-16146221

[boreal wave]

I can see you're about half way up on that high horse. Relax. Come back down to the ground. We're equals, I promise.

[hot ice]

[olive ember]

Play heresy, run the right traits to get penance and it happens naturally

[worthy wasp]

^

[austere burrow]

You can slide dodge the 3% if you need to be evasive

[olive ember]

The right traits being the 4% aura and kinetic flayer

[hot ice]

i got warp battery on complete accident on malice

didnt even have kinetic flayer ahaha

[olive ember]

How you get it on malice it’s glitched there iirc

[bleak tulip]

warp battery is easy with an aoe staff like surge or purg

[hot ice]

got lucky with my psychic communion

[hasty wolf]

huh, nice. guess i just need to get the last two feats

ty

[bright cipher]

321332, yes or no?

[austere burrow]

Why 2 for the last one

[clear heath]

Purg build?

[olive ember]

The penance is the glitched one iirc where you have to run it on heresy instead of malice. Either way it’s easier because bigger hordes mean more charges for psyker with the 4%

[bleak tulip]

take 3 for the last

[bright cipher]

surge build

[bleak tulip]

for those times you actually wanna BB

[hot ice]

didnt they fix warp battery for this

[olive ember]

Did they? Maybe they patched it because I got it a while back

[bleak tulip]

all soulblaze talents are ass, even if playing purg you dont wanna take em

[bright cipher]

soulblaze fix/buff when

[olive ember]

Nah you take the second lvl 30 one for the warp charges basically

[clear heath]

With purg, ascendant blaze is nice for warp charges

the rest are garbage yeah

[bleak tulip]

unecessary when you get a free charge every 15 seconds anyway on purg

[austere burrow]

Fast bb is hard to give up imo

[bleak tulip]

the only reason you'd want that extra chareg generation is if yuo wanna actually press F, which is bad for damage on 2

those few soulblaze stacks are not worth losing all your charges over

[clear heath]

or you could go 6 charges, ascendant blaze with the peril resistance on warp charge

[olive ember]

You get the charges back in 10 seconds with ascendant blaze and then you run peril resist and 6 stacks

So it’s basically infinite fire spam

[bleak tulip]

shame that the 6 charge talent is on the same tier as the best talent psyker gets so its bad

[olive ember]

And vent off cooldown

[bright cipher]

the problem is soulblaze does jack shit

[olive ember]

Kinetic flayer isn’t even that good imho most of the time it procs on some random ass poxwalker

It’s not bad but it’s also not that good

[bright cipher]

my favorite meme is enemies ignoring your purg flame and casually running through it without getting hit or staggered

[bleak tulip]

the dot from soulblaze doesnt get good until like 8 stacks or more

[worthy wasp]

Its not on the same tier as Kinetic Deflection tho

[raw breach]

omg so i just ran a mission with this Mk III Combat Knife I got and lolol push attack spam and heavy>slide movetech is silly

[clear heath]

The free brain burst is just for charges anyways, and you get charges just fine with purg on ascendant blaze

[bleak tulip]

and even then its still a dot in a game where you'd rather just kill shit faster

[flint sky]

who stole a lot from latin

who stole a lot from

[austere burrow]

No it's not

Lol

[flint sky]

and so on and so on

[austere burrow]

Oh I didn't read

[worthy wasp]

Ye meant not

[cyan echo]

Well french is a romance language, so makes sense 🙂
Vulgar latin

[austere burrow]

Wait you edited

Confusion

[clear heath]

typo moment

[worthy wasp]

The first one wasnt even proper english lol

[olive ember]

This is why they should just release a personality that speaks in mandarin

[worthy wasp]

Had to edit that garbo haha

[bleak tulip]

if you arent taking kinetic flayer what the fuck are you even doing imo

[worthy wasp]

Kinetic Flayer is really good ngl

[olive ember]

Running 6 charges for extra resist

[normal monolith]

…

https://i.redd.it/etbcvu55az3a1.png

That’s a daemonhost.

[bleak tulip]

best defence is killing them all

[olive ember]

Kinetic flayer is just an extra charge every 15 seconds but if you are able to maintain charges 6 charges is better

[clear heath]

It'e really good if you aren't running purg with ascendant blaze.
Purg doesn't need it for charges

[olive ember]

Yeah and extra resist let’s me kill everything better

[bleak tulip]

to maintain 6 charegs without flayer you gotta BB a fair bit, which is ass

or use purg, which imo is also ass

[normal monolith]

kinda wanna make a second Loner psyker and rock the daemonhost eyes (karellian+sienna)

[olive ember]

The damn random ass bb on a poxwalker every 15 seconds in endless horde heresy doesn’t do that much imho

[worthy wasp]

Nah, kinetic flayer is you refreshing what charges you got from Psychic Communion once every 15 secs so they never fall off

You never have to bb

[olive ember]

If you got a big enough horde the 4% will just proc again naturally anyways and refresh your stacks

[worthy wasp]

Which is good

[surreal needle]

So ive recently getting into Psyker after max leveling my Sharpshooter and i thought id ask here, am i doing something wrong or is it just worse? Ignoring the low health it just feels like it kills stuff slower with everything other then poxwalker hordes when using a staff.

[olive ember]

If you running purge with ascendant blaze you need to upkeep stacks even less

[worthy wasp]

Still rng

[bleak tulip]

believe it or not, its not really enough on its own

[clear heath]

In the context of purg, kinetic flayer isn't as useful as just taking 6 stacks with ascendant blaze for charge generation

[olive ember]

I mean I do run kinetic flayer but that’s also because I run surge staff, I’d swap it out if I’m running damage

[bright cipher]

its just worse

[bleak tulip]

and since you wanna avoid BBing as much as possible because its a waste of time rn...

[bright cipher]

veteran is the poster child

and fatshark favorite

[clear heath]

For every other build, kinetic flayer is BiS yes

[bleak tulip]

it is damage though

[clear heath]

but we were talking about purg

[bright cipher]

and is noticably better than the other 3 classes

[boreal wave]

I dunno about that. The veteran isn't in the center of the game's logo.

[worthy wasp]

"Ahh, just had some bad luck and do 12% less damage and possibly 24% less peril resist. Oh well"

Thats the prob with the class. Its designed around old pre-rework/nerf BB. But the class is still good because the career its for is so damn good due to the strength of staffs imo

[bleak tulip]

minimizing BB downtime for stacks = damage
extra free BB just for hitting shit = damage

[boreal wave]

I think it's easier to just say that a lot of the devs were IG fanboys, let their power level leak a little too much into the game.

[olive ember]

Psyker is worse vet except they can bring a flamethrower hordeclear or a lightning cc staff

[bleak tulip]

more than a few times I hit a mauler with melee and he just fuckin died from a regular

or ragers

[surreal needle]

I mean, with the other 2 classes i can atleast see a playstyle that makes it work, Psyker just feels like youre getting a slow ability that often doesnt even finish casting since the rest already killed whatever youre attacking

[bleak tulip]

or muties

even dogs

[flint sky]

Its pretty shitty for elite killing if thats what your asking

[clear heath]

psykers trying to become a stun grenade just so they don't get called "shittier vet"

[south monolith]

Strangely enough, the Psykinetic's Wrath talent affects non special attacks from the Forcesword

[bright cipher]

psyker is a cc bot

[flint sky]

Psykers are staff CC slaves on high diffs

[boreal wave]

Brain Blast is worthless right now, yeah.

[cyan echo]

not on Heresy at least

[olive ember]

Well yeah but ascendant blaze can easily upkeep stacks when running purge on a horde, and 6 stacks -> more resist -> less quelling more purging

[worthy wasp]

Ye tbqh Psykinetic and Sharpshooter are the anti-elite classes for their respective careers and Sharpshooter does a better job of it... but Psyker is a strong af career. Staffs are so damn good

[bright cipher]

voidstrike falls off so hard between malice and heresy

[flint sky]

getting there, tho. Radical uptick in hp and kill times from malice on most elites

[surreal needle]

The staffs are actually kinda good, but its very odd for a class that isnt built around it

[bright cipher]

you go from murdering everything

[bleak tulip]

sure but that requires you to play purg, which is not as good as surge or void unfortunately

[bright cipher]

to blowing bubbles at chaff

[bleak tulip]

and I actually tried playing purg and making it work, unlike trauma

[cyan echo]

I usually pull out the force sword for any elites that get close and it melts them

[clear heath]

I think voidstrike enjoyer lost the context that the conversation was about why you'd take ascendant blaze on purgatus

[olive ember]

Yeah I mean I run kinetic flayer on my surge too XD

[flint sky]

Again situationally good tool, the lock in place will get you killed in a second if you do it at the wrong time

I.e any time theres any chaff around

[bleak tulip]

then why do I keep bringing up "unless youre playing purg, which I think is bad"

[bright cipher]

voidstrike is what you use before you actually play psyker enough to start thinking about optimizing your game

[clear heath]

i think literally everyone would agree that you'd take flayer on other builds. This is pointing out the obvious. It's just that we are talking about purg builds

[cyan echo]

It requires smooth play, agreed

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/c57f2bbf83a0af02afeb83b3e5846b94
left or right?

[flint sky]

left

far better base stats

can reroll perks later

[worthy wasp]

Quietitude + Psychic Communion + Kinetic Deflection + Kinetic Flayer = all too good not to take.

The other 2 skills are up to you tbqh... just dont ever use Quickening

[olive ember]

I do wonder how often you can push if you run a build with the 15% refund on elite kill + 6 stacks + 1st level 30 feat

[olive ember]

I’d argue on surge you want warp resist and crit over damage honestly

So right

[flint sky]

literally press R

with how high that quell is its not an issue

[olive ember]

It’s a cc stave, the difference in damage won’t make or break

An extra stun will

[bleak tulip]

warp absorption on void is good imo :p

youre actually killing enough shit to refill

just less consistent

[flint sky]

True

Yeah ok true

[bright cipher]

tfw ur standing there ccing 5 gunners waiting for ur vet to wake up and notice

[flint sky]

thought quell was far better on left

[bleak tulip]

crit without damage seems like it would level out

[olive ember]

It’s worse when it’s two hounds and a mutant

[flint sky]

Top Psyker player moment

[boreal wave]

Actually I've never had a problem killing gunners with Surge staff

[full atlas]

what stat should i prioritize on force sword?

[clear heath]

i need that damage on surge staff so i can deal that 2 extra dps bro

[bleak tulip]

what difficulty

[boreal wave]

Heresy

[bleak tulip]

thats the crux of the problem

[flint sky]

everything but mobility

[worthy wasp]

meanwhile here I am still using this garbage

[bleak tulip]

gunners or gunners ?

[bright cipher]

gunnas

[worthy wasp]

idc AT ALL about quell speed btw

[bright cipher]

they hold guns sideways

[clear heath]

probably means the regular non-elite gunners

[bleak tulip]

because the specials dont fuckin die from what Ive seen on heresy+

[boreal wave]

The specials with the hellguns

[flint sky]

well thats not very smart

[worthy wasp]

I dont need to care tho

[bright cipher]

quell speed on staves is legit the goated stat

[flint sky]

Its not that they are too good not to take its that every other choice is kinda ass

[worthy wasp]

I run an Antax MkV Combat Axe as my melee, if I need to quell instead of just being helpless I just swap to my melee and auto-fast quell while still being able to contribute

[bright cipher]

for me, the first stats i look at on a surge staff is peril res and quelling speed

[bleak tulip]

idk I usually dump stat it, half a second isnt that big of a deal overall when the rest of the stats are good

[worthy wasp]

weapon swapping to a non-force weapon is how I quell

whole lot of animation cancelling

[bleak tulip]

just kill more with transfer peril

EZ

[worthy wasp]

I legit never hit the quell button

[bleak tulip]

just charge a right click at 100% and let transfer peril take the wheel

[bright cipher]

i woe for your teammates on heresy

[olive ember]

You mean peril resist is optional? That’s like the one perk every psyker should run no matter the staff

[worthy wasp]

what about on damnation?

[olive ember]

Also wrong person

[worthy wasp]

thats what I run

[bleak tulip]

same

[bright cipher]

same shit

[olive ember]

What build are you running?

[boreal wave]

I guess I should go ahead and ask here. Have you guys noticed a charge difference with Warp Barrage on a surge staff? I swear the charge rate is exactly the same for me no matter how many times I fire the secondary in succession.

[bleak tulip]

psy wrath seems neat but 15% isnt really selling me

[flint sky]

I flip flop depending on the staff

[olive ember]

Fuck if I know but I trust in the placebo effect

To make me a better player

[bright cipher]

voidstrike needs less resist and quelling as much as the other 2 as you actually kill enough to passively lose peril

[bleak tulip]

you mean warp flurry or terrifying barrage?

[cedar blade]

which one of you is this

[clear heath]

I barely ever charge my surge staff anyways so i wouldn't notice tbh

[boreal wave]

Derp.

[flint sky]

zealot. not here bud

[boreal wave]

The one that is supposed to make chained secondaries charge faster

[bright cipher]

is the surge stun any longer or hits more units if you charge it up?

[worthy wasp]

I run damnation with an Antax MkV Combat Axe + Surge Staff.

I spend most my time in melee, animation cancel to surge staff to CC armor enemies/special then animation cancel back to my melee.

This is my talent tree

[dusk pilot]

only hits a max of 5

no more no less

[bright cipher]

yeah i thought so

[bleak tulip]

yeah that one does work

have it on void as well, goated blessing on all staves

[flint sky]

canon psyker

[boreal wave]

I'm not so sure though. Because it really, reaaaaaally doesn't seem to effect charge time. Unless I'm doing something wrong and it's not actually "chaining"

[clear heath]

I feel like this is identical to probably 90% of the people here

[bleak tulip]

more cranial surface for cooling

[clear heath]

psyker really needs a better feat tree

[flint sky]

This guy gets it

so does json

[worthy wasp]

been preaching Antax MkV since release when I dude recommended it to me

ppl be like "what melee do I use? force sword only option???"

[olive ember]

Also I saw this post in search but get this shit to blue atleast cheap AF and you get a trait lmao

[dusk pilot]

Also I just realized on the steam page, there's a psyker cosmetic that we can't even get yet :/

[bleak tulip]

its not a massive improvement, but its there, and all the other blessings but trasfer suck imo

[fallow meadow]

I want the blindfold thing.

[olive ember]

I just like the force sword funny deflect bullets but I actually run antax on my zealot lmao

[boreal wave]

"Except psykers screw those guys"

[bleak tulip]

after playing zealot I appreciate combat axe a lot more so I can live with this

[worthy wasp]

lol u right

[bleak tulip]

honestly thank fuck that shit looks ugly as sin

[dusk pilot]

You don't have to wear it, would look great with the hood though

[bleak tulip]

also that zealot has a book as a backpack, weirdo

[olive ember]

Oh yeah was wondering but what traits should be put on the antax, prob gonna use it as my primary zealot weapon

[autumn lark]

I want the schizzo psyker goggles

[dusk pilot]

Ye I've been wondering about that actually, we have an accessory slot and no unlockable accessories

[raw breach]

which ones?

[fallow meadow]

Emperor gift me a lot of guns....

[flint sky]

small family company please understand

[raw breach]

People who got the Imperial edition have a backpack accessory

[bleak tulip]

yeah but this is gonna be a head slot item, so no double wearing

fatshark cant give us hair under our hoods, what makes you think they can pull this off

[dusk pilot]

doesn't really count tbh

[fallow meadow]

Maybe he is telling me to change job.

[dusk pilot]

That's paid

[bright cipher]

canon psyker has a bushy handlebar mustache

and you cant say its not true, its literally THE John Darktide

[dusk pilot]

And it's clear they must have made an accessory at some point for the Zealot given the book on his back

So it's like

Where's all this content???

[raw breach]

But there's something, so there's an example of what other stuff in the slot will be.

[flint sky]

Non canon he only has a norwood 7

Also I think I played with you

[bright mica]

fun fact in most situations a force sword light special is higher DPS than force sword heavy (heavy takes longer to charge + the animation is twice as long, pulling off two lights is often safer than 1 heavy as well)

[bleak tulip]

whenever the cash shop ticks over, bet

[olive ember]

Heavy is good for burst damage and one shot potential basically

[bright cipher]

possibly, i played for 9 hours yesterday spamming heresy to hit 30 before the weekly reset

[olive ember]

Which goes bye bye anyways on high difficulty

[flint sky]

I dont really play heresy so maybe not

[bleak tulip]

kind of no reason to with randoms

[bright cipher]

yeah now that im 30 as soon as i get a solid base staff together im moving to damnation

[bleak tulip]

the only reason I really play heresy on psyker is because I feel like I could basically solo malice at this point

[bright cipher]

if the option is between no threat smooth sailing malice and adrenaline filled heresy ill always choose the latter

[bleak tulip]

kind of isnt fun besides the superficial fun of blowing up an entire horde by yourself

[bright cipher]

thats why i just moved on to heresy at lvl 20

now at 30 imma move on to damnation

[bleak tulip]

good luck finding queues

[worthy wasp]

Ye queues are brutal

[bright cipher]

and rly u cant wipe on heresy as long as u just stick together and face threats one at a time

[bleak tulip]

damnation is kinda dead because there is no benefit to playing damnation at all

[bright cipher]

cheevos bro

[bleak tulip]

well other than a sense of pride and accomplishment

[bright cipher]

i need the frames

[olive ember]

Most of the time the damnation pubs are just people trying to solo achievements cuz they can’t/won’t find a group

[bleak tulip]

is there even anything for damnation? I havent really checked because I dont much care for frames

[olive ember]

Been there a bit but managed to get all the annoying psyker achievements done with group the other day

[worthy wasp]

Legit zero cares for achievements here

[boreal wave]

I just lust for damnation for the diamantine

[bright cipher]

i still need the "throw people off a cliff" one for the hood

[olive ember]

I think there’s a general account frame

[bright cipher]

isnt there a frame for doing all types of missions on damnation?

big pub flex

[olive ember]

You got the other achievements? There’s like three tiers of hoods

[clear heath]

Yeah i tried joining a damnation run a few times and it was just a solo dude who asked me if i could just leave cause he was doing a penance

[bright cipher]

wtf

no im on the 1st one

[worthy wasp]

Consistent fast run clears >>> Higher diff clears w/ less consistency.

Wouldnt recommend spamming damnation unless you can solo/carry ppl

[bright cipher]

CHEEVOOOOS

[bleak tulip]

yeah im only missing malleus becasue I couldnt be assed to ask my group to go tank a demonhohst for me while I bore us all to tears, and I dont mch care for the outfit overall

why have psyker eyes when you wear goggles over em

probably rocking tier 2 hood until something better comes along

[bright cipher]

the acquisitions hood with the face mask is cooler anyways

[pine topaz]

what kind of shit is this:

[olive ember]

That’s a pic I found if the t2 armor set

[olive ember]

Lemme see if I can find t3

[bright cipher]

its alright

no quell

[bleak tulip]

funni goggle

[bright cipher]

no deflector

[dusk pilot]

ye but that costs money

[bleak tulip]

slaughterer is good, stats are bad

use and toss later

unless you got a better sword

[olive ember]

Nah that pic is all achievement drip

[dusk pilot]

the facemask included?

I don't see it in penances

[olive ember]

Yes

[bleak tulip]

yeah its the tier 2 hood

[dusk pilot]

🤔

Oh

[olive ember]

There’s three tiers of hoods

[bleak tulip]

gotta unlock 1 first

[olive ember]

You need to get the first tier to see the second tier

[bleak tulip]

third hood is black with goggles, which is why I dont want it

and the malleus chest is also kind of not that great

[dusk pilot]

I'm going to assume you can use each tier hood and it doesn't remove the previous tier

[bleak tulip]

maybe I'd use it with the store hood

[eager gorge]

Hey Psyker chat, I am going to share some rations. Don't put weird witch magic on it, though.

[dusk pilot]

So I doubt it matters even if you do unlock it

[bleak tulip]

yea

[eager gorge]

This is a communal meal sharing.

[flint sky]

lfg channel and lfg servers are your friend

[bleak tulip]

I just dont care to make the effort to get it specifically

[hasty ether]

not enough salt for us psykers

[olive ember]

@bright cipher @dusk pilot this is the tier 3 hood for psyker

[flint sky]

shut up nerd we only eat other human beings

[cedar blade]

give me this u can have the rest

[clear heath]

As a psyker main, switching to vet gives me the greatest feeling of power. Highly recommend

[dusk pilot]

I mean I dig it but I will admit I prefer the tier 2 hood mostly because it lets you see your eyes

[cedar blade]

prob weren't playing psyker properly

[hasty ether]

is pick n mix even completable right now? been trying to get it done on heresy and progress bar doesn't update and i swear i've met the requirements a couple times now

[clear heath]

everyone should just play psyker and then switch the vet so they can really appreciate the power trip of being a well designed class

[mellow crescent]

Do you guys think Psykers burn calories by channeling the Warp?

[olive ember]

I like the color scheme of t3 better though, I feel like I’m a Christmas tree using t2 hood

[cedar blade]

as a vet i gotta power sword EVERYTHING AND kill all the elites, because shit psykers cant cc hordes

[bleak tulip]

progress bar is bugged, it still works tho

[olive ember]

Yes I got it yesterday

[dusk pilot]

why do you keep replying to me

[olive ember]

You need luck and teammates

[uneven sparrow]

Every game it’s just veterans or Psyker with gun who are you people and why aren’t you electro staff or playing as ogryn

[hasty ether]

ty must just be off by a couple seconds then

[cedar blade]

because you're a victim

[dusk pilot]

I was talking about the hood though

[olive ember]

Rly? I’ve been getting a bunch of zealots

And only zealots

[uneven sparrow]

Those too

All my homie hate the above

[bleak tulip]

cringe

[dusk pilot]

I don't even understand what they meant by that

🤔

[bleak tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusk pilot]

I was talking about the psyker hood and they were going on about something else like they were having a conversation with me

[olive ember]

I just need BB to be buffed so it’s not two for a poxhound and 4 for a damn mutant

[uneven sparrow]

Psyker players ||have no chill just like the Psyker ||

[bleak tulip]

reasons why I play savant

[dusk pilot]

You try having chill when you constantly have to channel peril to not explode

[bleak tulip]

actually keeps their shit

[olive ember]

I haven’t looked at the other class channels that much

But psyker does feel like constant arguing

Lmao

[bleak tulip]

its mostly the same questions and the same conversations every day tbh

[dusk pilot]

I'm thinking about making a zealot, I only ever see the odd conversation about which staff is best or arguing about which melee weapon to use

[bleak tulip]

im just here because Im at work and cant play

[dusk pilot]

tbf, there's not really much to the game that we don't know about already

[bleak tulip]

yea

[olive ember]

I’m here because I can’t fall asleep

[dusk pilot]

bound to be the same stuff for a while until they actually update or add stuff

[lethal plover]

but can power sword block bullets? checkmate atheists

[bleak tulip]

maybe balance patch this week

[mystic burrow]

Love it when ogrys role play, doesn't heal with 5% health left, walks on fire, like an absolute retard 😄 🤦‍♂️

[bright cipher]

if ur not pushing ur gearscore, item rolls and hunting cheevos ur not playing right

💪🏻

[olive ember]

I feel like I see more discussion about vet balance here than the vet the channel tho just saying

[uneven sparrow]

[bright cipher]

thats actually fucking sick

[uneven sparrow]

Wow my game just fully crashes when I try to use the mk2 staff

[bright cipher]

is it like VT where u block by default when rezzing?

[mellow crescent]

Having a veteran delete 3 elites by the time you have BB at half charge does that to a psyker.

[bright cipher]

or do u have to hold block while holding revive

[bleak tulip]

yeah

not sure what you use to block though, its not the weapon you have equipped thats for sure

[lethal plover]

hold

[bright cipher]

i hate that the rez bar isnt in the middle of the ui and is an enviromental element instead meaning u lose vision of it if u turn around

[eager gorge]

You fools I POISONED THE FOOD.

[olive ember]

Dude they are gonna nerf peril blocking let’s be honest

[bleak tulip]

I guess then I dont have to run it to try it out

also I dont have deflector and I'd rather level zealot than keep grinding out more swords

Ill just wait until crafting

[bright cipher]

why would they nerf peril blocking

psyker is weak enough as is

[bleak tulip]

tell that to the F nerf

clearly not weak enough

[olive ember]

Who knows but seeing how they gutted psyker from the closed beta

[bright cipher]

tfw optimal psyker play on higher diffculty is using brain burst almost NEVER

[olive ember]

They fucking nerfed the suicide explosion damage a few patches ago ffs

[dusk pilot]

closed beta must have had a lot of people with feedback go "gosh Psyker is so overpowered"

did they have access to the various difficulties

in the closed beta?

Because that might add up

[olive ember]

Probably but then again the vet didn’t have access to the recon las or the bolter or the power sword in the closed beta

[bleak tulip]

I mean at this point I kinda welcome BB not being used because its boring to use, and I dont trust fartshark enough to make BB fun to use and not just make it do more damage

sure more damage would be nice but it would still be boring to use

[dusk pilot]

BB is clunky and I hate when it can't target someone behind some barriers that I CAN SEE THEM BEHIND

[olive ember]

There was also people who thought psyker needed buffs or was just fine so idk why they changed something that worked and was fine

The biggest gripe I have is holy shit why does BB targeting suck ass now

[bleak tulip]

it did get worse and I dont really get why considering its so bad

[dusk pilot]

Yeah I'm sure it was better in the beta

[olive ember]

Why does it take me 3 fucking tries to even target the sniper hiding behind two pox walkers

[dusk pilot]

Now I feel like it targets random things that aren't what I want it to target

[bleak tulip]

I guess it was just because until malice BB fucks shit up and they saw people use it nigh exclusively

[dusk pilot]

Or like, the least dangerous things NEXT to something else

That's far more dangerous

[lethal plover]

the big dick energy of being the psyker carry

[jolly kernel]

I think psyker is on par with zealot and ogryn. vet is another conversatioin.

[bleak tulip]

I really wanna know what fuckin stam bar reviving uses

because it aint the sword thats for sure

[olive ember]

Peril blocking

[bleak tulip]

look at the stam bar, I know what peril blocking is

[olive ember]

Oh yeah I think it auto switches to the highest stam bar you have

[bleak tulip]

I am wondering what stam bar it uses

[olive ember]

Which would be the staff I believe

[bleak tulip]

that would seem like its whats happening but thats wacky

[lethal plover]

it does not consume stamina, until you hit like 90 peril

after which you consume stamina

[olive ember]

Idk but it’s consistent with the other classes atleast

[bleak tulip]

yeah I get it I am aware of peril block

[lethal plover]

after stamina gone you get fucked

[bleak tulip]

I am just wondering about the stam bar in general when you pick up

because I noticed before that it changes

[lethal plover]

no stamina

[bleak tulip]

must be staff

[lethal plover]

oh you mean the bar

[olive ember]

Probably the staff stamina bar

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[lethal plover]

it's probably like the stamina when you're unarmed

[bleak tulip]

also people swearing you gotta hold block for it to work, can not confirm

that shit is automatic for me

[lethal plover]

you have to hold block

[bleak tulip]

not in my experience

[lethal plover]

really? automatic?

silly me then

[olive ember]

Too my knowledge nah

[bleak tulip]

I never hold it and it still blocks, or I just subconciously do it and dont even notice but I didnt play enough VT1 recently to have that muscle memory I think

[hot ice]

got 50% dmg reduction against snipers

🤤

[olive ember]

How

[hot ice]

added up from 3 curios

got lucky

[silk flax]

Thoughts?

[bleak tulip]

now only taking half your health in damage nice

[cyan notch]

its auto block when revive if thats what youre talking about

[bleak tulip]

wow thats the worst first target roll ive ever seen

which is a problem

[flint sky]

first target oof

[bleak tulip]

like this you get like 80% damage on your first target

which is ass

shame

good sword otherwise

[flint sky]

yeah great weapon except that

[olive ember]

Keep it for the deflector trait for transfer but besides that idk

[dusk pilot]

Keep it around for when crafting is released, melt it down for deflector

[flint sky]

^

[hot ice]

still get it

even if just for the blessing