psyker-class

[exotic kindle]

Unfortunately they also used the new system to ruin the feel of the general gameplay at low level

Aka mobility stat

[gray kelp]

I can't think of any set of weapons with variants where there isn't a clear winner besides maybe lasguns

[autumn lark]

if aquillas are earnable ingame people wouldnt have an issue with it

[worthy wasp]

Lol

[haughty flame]

I want a surge staff damage buff 😄

[worthy wasp]

Its legit the devs only way of making money

[stoic mural]

My problem with the cash shop was smore that we don't even have crafting or private lobbies to run with friends in the game and they have the cash shop there. It just rubs me the wrong way when there are aspects that are incomplete and yet that is fully operational. But cest la vie in the end. It is the modern era sadly.

[ornate hamlet]

that and DLCs

[compact portal]

My only problem with the cash shop is I want a bad ass force sword skin

[clear heath]

We have cosmetics that we can earn in game anyways. It's not like all the skins in vermintide were earnable either

[stoic mural]

when the game is running, it can be fairly fun, but there's problems for sure.

[worthy wasp]

Yall are expecting them to give free content updates and keep up dedicated servers for a game they charged you only $40 for... and some of yall even want to be able to get the cosmetics for free too lol

[haughty flame]

You can make money with an MTX store and also not be a piece of shit about your pricing models.

[rich meteor]

skill issue tbh, just dont be poor

[autumn lark]

only a handfull of skins in vermintide required you to pay actual money

[exotic kindle]

Can I post links in here?

[haughty flame]

I dont want to earn the aquillas in game or any of that stuff, but dont set pricing unfairly and with a FOMO

[gray kelp]

FOMO + predatory packaging prices are the main problem, not so much the fact there's a mtx shop

[haughty flame]

anways lets not turn this into general lmao

[exotic kindle]

I got a youtube clip of mobility problems lmao

[worthy wasp]

1. VT didnt have dedicated servers

2. It wasnt that way for ages, their community demanded it for years

[stoic mural]

I don't care the cash shop is in the game, I care that an incomplete game doesn't have some core components completed in it at launch and they released it still with the cash shop being open at launch. But again, cest la vie.

[ornate hamlet]

i actually dont think there would be a problem if you could pay for what you got. not pay more to get an extra 100 aquilas lmao.

and we got cosmetics before core gameplay features such as CRAFTING lmao.

[magic hull]

My go to loadout for surge, axe deals insane damage agaisnt elites.

[worthy wasp]

Fk ye this man gets it

[compact portal]

I bought the imperial edition twice and bought extra aquilas

Trust me Im supporting the devs lmao 🤣

[haughty flame]

I'm not a big fan of the axe, is it actually decent?

[worthy wasp]

The Mk V specifically, yes

[magic hull]

it really depends on the perk

[stable rampart]

is there a way to check which mission types you've completed on which difficulty?

[magic hull]

and the blessing

[haughty flame]

Best perks on staffs?

[magic hull]

i got the godtier blessing for the axe

[stoic mural]

@stable rampart not that I'm aware of

[bitter orbit]

Is all or nothing a good perk in the axe?

[ornate hamlet]

and for people sat their saying ooh its to support the devs. whats the purpose of the Imperial version?

pay 50-60 on a game which these days aint alot just to get slapped with more cosmetics to buy over in game features lmao

[stable rampart]

RIP, ty

[ornate hamlet]

i think thats the issue some peeps are having

[magic hull]

usually i stun elite and go in with the axe to finish them

[worthy wasp]

Show the horde clear

With the push attack

[magic hull]

horde clear sucks dick

[worthy wasp]

Wut

[magic hull]

yeh

[worthy wasp]

You push attack?

[haughty flame]

Ohhh that is sick. I like the force sword primarily for the infinite succ

[magic hull]

its bad with horde

[worthy wasp]

Spam push

[magic hull]

eh i guess?

[gray kelp]

relying on push attack for horde clear doesn't sound good, that will burn through stam

[hot ice]

how often do you all get an item after mission end?

[worthy wasp]

Which is why its amazing on Psyker and not other classes. Psyker can use peril to block

And because mkv isnt a force weapon, you are constantly full speed quelling

[thick surge]

gotta have ignore enemy hitmass blessing tho

but with right setup it's probably the strongest melee for psyker right now

[last sleet]

Sadly psyker shouldn't be meleeing at all. Our job is to stun stuff.

[thick surge]

that works until big hordes come at you

[quartz geyser]

this seems decent if it didn't have a garbage base roll

[last sleet]

Specially in big hordes, you should be spamming surge.

[summer prairie]

only if there are elites/specials mixed in

[thick surge]

if you got the breathing room sure

[tacit fractal]

Who here agrees that tank psyker is best psyker

[polar fractal]

or delete them with voidstrike instead

[last sleet]

Surge makes the breathing room.

[thick surge]

on t5 it doesn't

ignore enemy hitmass weapons clear stuff so much faster and more efficiently

[gray kelp]

tank psyker and good staff options are psyker's life support for otherwise bad kit atm IMO

[frail spire]

how does a psyker compare to a vet?

[tacit fractal]

Vet is dmg, Psyker is dmg support

[thick surge]

completely different roles imo

[tacit fractal]

Very much

[thick surge]

psyker excels in hordeclear or cc, whilst vet is burst or sustained dps

[tacit fractal]

I saw a psyker with trauma staff and trust level 30 who barely did anything on heresy, I think the whispers are making me see things I only could imagine seeing in the warp

[clear heath]

trauma staff
lol

[gray kelp]

you had a trauma staff gigachad sighting that's rare

[hexed viper]

look for the green eagle icon on the right side of the mission icon when looking at the mission map. if you see a mission with that, you will get the emperor's gift

[stoic mural]

so trauma staff is like the combustion stave from VT2 if I recall

[clear heath]

maybe he was testing something in psykanium and forgot to switch staves

[hexed viper]

voidstrike best staff

[tacit fractal]

She died 4 times in the investigation mission and constantly did small explosions so all she did was seperate POXWALKERS from each other and make me not do my job with Purgatus

[bitter orbit]

Honestly at this point anything other than the trauma staff is good

[gray kelp]

honestly based

[tacit fractal]

All 3 staves are honestly fucking sexy i’m ignoring trauma staff’s existence

[polar fractal]

surge and void are both good, void is just way more fun to use for me personally

[devout belfry]

Alright. Getting bored. We should do a 4 psyker party with crappy weapons.

[hot ice]

ohhhhh

[stoic mural]

hmm, high warp resist and quell is what I want to look for on a surge staff right?

[hexed viper]

voidstrike staff with the perk that quells 3.5% peril per Weakspot hit is fucking nasty when aiming head level on a horde

[stoic mural]

does charge rate matter much?

[devout belfry]

What does the skull icon mean on the post game screen next to portraits?

[gray kelp]

btw, best diff to spam for mats? getting bottlenecked real hard by plasteel atm

[devout belfry]

I want crap. We go in with dog shit.

[thick surge]

best blessing for void for sure. It goes up to 5% per weakspot hit on a lvl4 blessing

[bitter orbit]

I saw a staff earlier with 25% damage at trust level 30

[devout belfry]

No. The difference between the max roll and worst is like .2 seconds to full charge.

[gray kelp]

is warp flurry not the best for voidstrike?

[tacit fractal]

Mk II Infantry autogun with a mk II combat axe on every one of us siblings? I’m in

[hexed viper]

I currently can't play. Haven't been able to play since 4 days before release. I keep crashing. first 30 hours were flawless, but suddenly shit hit the fan and became unplayable

[thick surge]

that + peril quell bless is the combo you want

[stoic mural]

@devout belfry oof, so mostly look for warp resist, damage and quell?

[devout belfry]

Excellent. You're in.

[tacit fractal]

Hold on let me put my gpu processing speed very low and i’ll put the game on high

[devout belfry]

Yeah. I got lucky and got max rolls on everything on surge besides charge lol

[devout belfry]

RTX on. Game off.

[hexed viper]

i got a forcesword that blocks ranged attacks as well. it's so great

[tacit fractal]

Don’t forget that we gotta be on brazilian servers

[devout belfry]

I just bring an ogryn. They block my bullets.

[tacit fractal]

Even without slab shield they’re great shields!

[devout belfry]

Bring back friendly fire.

[clear heath]

Barrels are the new friendly fire

[hexed viper]

does t4 and t5 not have friendly fire?

[tacit fractal]

Can we all agree that ogryns deserve all the love from us psykers meanwhile vets are shouting at them for being in front

[devout belfry]

Nope.

[thick surge]

Nope and it's a good thing. Flamer weapons etc would be unplayable otherwise

[hexed viper]

well damn

[cyan echo]

for real, tried playing as a Veteran and everytime there was an Ogryn I just felt inconvenienced

While as a psyker, i love them

[tacit fractal]

Yeah

[devout belfry]

That's because all of our abilities pass straight through teammates lol

[clear heath]

Yeah ogryns are great with psykers.
My inner ogryn racism comes out whenever i play vet tho

[devout belfry]

What is the literal worst melee weapon for psyker?

[hexed viper]

anything without cleave

[tacit fractal]

I mean I would disagree cause if FF was a thing we would hear a lot of crispy voice lines from the ogryn and zealot

[hexed viper]

getting rushed is the worst and having to hit a single enemy every swing sucks ass

[tacit fractal]

Combat axe when you don’t have a braced autogun, recon lasgun or any staves

[boreal flume]

An an ogryn main, i too enjoy psyker punies more over vet punies

[clear heath]

We have voicelines for hitting teammates already. They just don't take damage

[tacit fractal]

I do like that though

[cyan echo]

if there was FF Ogryns would be dead in 2 seconds of game round start

[tacit fractal]

YES

BRAIN BURSTING

[cyan echo]

Saw this on twitter

[boreal flume]

Ogryns can FF thanks to a bug right now, and can straight up 1 shot teammates that are full health

[clear heath]

Just friendly fire with barrels

[devout belfry]

I'll be frank. If I was in the 40k universe I'd go straight for Tzeentch.

[hexed viper]

there was an entire squadron that went into the eye and was never heard from again

[weary idol]

why does the psyker trailer show them using a heavy sword, but they can't use one in game

[clear heath]

If you haven't felt the thrill of """accidentally""" killing your friends with barrels, you haven't lived

[boreal flume]

Ogryn stands in front of vet, vet gets mad and stands in front of ogryn, ogryn accidentally kills vet

[hexed viper]

one of the weapons supposedly to be added to the game

[devout belfry]

I mean in a grow wings and eyes kinda way.

[weary idol]

also that weird force sword that has a stab attack which also isn't in game

can see its model with the purchasable force sword camos though

[hexed viper]

ohhhhhhhh gotcha

[cyan echo]

I had a Mutie yeet me THROUGH a fence today on Damnation, killing me instantly

[hexed viper]

2 swords are supposed to be added that psykers can use

[devout belfry]

Force axe is all I want.

[thick surge]

Is that the 2H forcesword?

[weary idol]

no, it's definitely just a 1h one

[hexed viper]

powerfist as a psyker.

[weary idol]

seems like an alt variant on the blaze we have

[cyan echo]

Forceglaive!

[weary idol]

or I guess the blaze is the alt variant since the camo skin uses the other force swords model

[native thorn]

Hello siblings

[hexed viper]

anyone have any tips for constant crashing? i've tried changing threads, i'm on low settings, fsr2 is off, rtx is off.... I've tried practically everything and still crash

[devout belfry]

When does it crash?

[magic hull]

My purgatory loadout + force sword and deflection allows me to get closer without ranged bullying me. Kinetic deflection also increase shield capacity.

[hexed viper]

i typically crash in the mourningstar before i can even start a mission

max i last is maybe 5 minutes

[devout belfry]

Make a new character and tell me if it crashes.

[hexed viper]

ok i will try that

[magic hull]

Time to make a build for voidstrike my final goal

[devout belfry]

Have you upgraded or downgraded your driver's recently?

[magic hull]

which melee weapon goes well with voidstrike?

[hexed viper]

upgraded everything. including bios

[devout belfry]

How many threads are you running?

[rich meteor]

'

[hexed viper]

4

[devout belfry]

Set it to 5.

[native thorn]

voidstrike has the most freedom with melee imo, mk5 axe/duelist/force sword per preference and feats

[hexed viper]

ok i'll do that too

[worthy wasp]

Agree

[devout belfry]

There are a lot of people that are having your same problem according to the FS forums.

[cyan echo]

I need to try Purgation staff on Damnation, haven't tried it yet

[devout belfry]

I still think the purge staff feels awful.

[cyan echo]

i actually kinda sorta like it on Heresy at least

[devout belfry]

Surge makes me feel like Palpatine.

[magic hull]

Ill probably go with mk5 then because it outputs more damage

[devout belfry]

Surge seems to have a bug where it randomly does absurd damage.

[cyan echo]

MK5 and spam block+slash infinite

[wide quest]

The feeling of being immobile for the duration that you cast purg staff is a bit iffy to me, but that's just personal preference.

[hexed viper]

i had the surge staff before the void strike and i can't go back... voidstrike for life

[cyan echo]

Surge has a great bonus to crit

[native thorn]

also nukes armor iirc

[devout belfry]

But it shouldn't be doing this much. I'm randomly straight up killing reapers on haz 4.

[native thorn]

reapers armored

bonus damage to armor

[cyan echo]

When it crits on armoured dudes they melt

[modern grove]

Hit level 30, the realized this is a wait-for-shop-rng sim

[devout belfry]

I can't reproduce it in training.

[cyan echo]

The thing to know about damage on Surge is that its not instant

[magic hull]

I need help, which voidstrike should i roll?

[cyan echo]

There's like a delay of 1,5 second before the big damage hits

[hexed viper]

did... did you not realize the one hour timer on the shop? or are you not farming emperor gift missions?

[devout belfry]

I'll post a pic of my staff. Heading upstairs lol

You're gonna shit a brick.

[cyan echo]

How do you know which missions are emperors gift? Are those the scriptures/grimoires ones?

[last sleet]

uwu, unsolicited staff pics.

[hexed viper]

green eagle icon on the right of the mission icon

[cyan echo]

Huh, I had no idea

[frail spire]

is force sword just the way to go?

[young summit]

nither, you really want the one that prugers peril on weakspo thits

[cyan echo]

I really, really like it

[hexed viper]

it's amazing

[worthy wasp]

Force Sword or Mk V Combat Axe imho

[gray kelp]

heresy randoms give me brain rot sometimes

[cyan echo]

I did try some MK V axe, but i just miss the utility of Force Sword so much

[worthy wasp]

Force Sword if you spam staff.. Mk V Axe if you want to feel like a Zealot with a staff

Got the power of lightning in my backpocket yo

[hexed viper]

@devout belfry what does making a new character have to do with anything? just curious

[magic hull]

i dont quite get what u mean

[devout belfry]

It might be an unloadable asset or something borked on that character triggering a crash.

[cyan echo]

There's a blessing that quells peril on weak spot hits

[devout belfry]

It happened before for people when loading into the Mourningstar.

[native thorn]

melee depends on staff

but force sword is a solid generalist

[hexed viper]

so i would have to run a new character and delete the bugged one?

[devout belfry]

No, just wait for a patch. They're getting the crash logs. They patched this once before.

[hexed viper]

i tried to give em crash logs but they were apparntly "extremely truncated"

[devout belfry]

Behold! I am a goddess of the Warp! Taste my lightning fuckers!

[magic hull]

I would probably prefer pure dmg

[worthy wasp]

Did someone say god roll?

[modern grove]

Sounds heretical, be careful, sister.

[devout belfry]

Found her on the streets as a humble white roll.

[hexed viper]

holy shit

[worthy wasp]

Congrats you beat the game

[devout belfry]

I also ran this when we were just messing around pretending to be Sharpshooters.

Lol, chat died when I posted my stave.

[hexed viper]

i'm trying to play as something else

going ogryn rihgt now

[devout belfry]

I gotta speed run 5 more missions for my last weekly.

[hexed viper]

crashed mid mission

[robust geyser]

how is this a god roll?

[tacit fractal]

I feel like headhunter autoguns suck ass

[devout belfry]

That sucks. Was it this bad before the most recent patch?

[hexed viper]

i can't complete a single mission....

been this way since.. like 5 days before launch

[devout belfry]

The charge speed stat is useless.

[robust geyser]

yikes

rip

[summer prairie]

it's not useless but low priority

[devout belfry]

Max roll vs lowest roll is .2 seconds.

It's useless.

[night kestrel]

How is it useless

[devout belfry]

For full charge btw.

[night kestrel]

Oh

Damn that's bad

[tacit fractal]

Meh, just a dump stat yknow

[acoustic steppe]

Wow I just created a psycker after playing ogryn and sharpshooter. You must be masochystic to play this class

[devout belfry]

Additionally 79 vs 80 doesn't round up to anything. So it's basically 80 lol

[night kestrel]

Void staff rapier

[hexed viper]

if you didn't go with the Loner voice, you're wrong

[tacit fractal]

Wdym?

Psyker is great

[white cedar]

😄

[tacit fractal]

I feel annoyed when I play other archetypes

[tacit fractal]

Needs deflector

[silent dagger]

I need my brain burst

[hot ice]

just did a mission with the green eagle icon, no gift. do i need to do the side obj as well?

[night kestrel]

Get deflection and that's a God sword

[untold kestrel]

i also play ogryn, its easier, but boring

[acoustic steppe]

the damage is good but you cant move while venting, one brain burst gives you 45% perril

[tacit fractal]

Why do you think staves exist

[hexed viper]

wait, really?

[hot ice]

yeah

[hexed viper]

there's a perk for movement while quelling. it's op

[white cedar]

it's on my main sword. just waiting for re-bless

[hexed viper]

huh.... maybe?

[night kestrel]

Oh

[devout belfry]

What? That sounds like bullshit.

[hot ice]

damn, or its random chance lol

[hot ice]

i legit did tho, only thing i didnt do was the side obj

[hexed viper]

no, the eagle icon should be guaranteed

[acoustic steppe]

Spending a perk in order to move is not op its wasting a slot to become normal

[night kestrel]

Upgrade that shit 35% finesse ain't happening

[loud violet]

my ogryn protector crashed just as we finished the mission. I am sad.

[hexed viper]

no, it's op... the amount of bullshit you can do with a psyker is crazy. using a perk point to move is worth it and game changing

[devout belfry]

The symbols around the mission in green are just aesthetic.

[static epoch]

just move with staff XD

[hot ice]

did this mission, just on diff 2 instead of 3

no gift

[hexed viper]

you should have been given a gift

[hot ice]

im cursed, emperor forgive me

[tacit fractal]

Also @acoustic steppe constantly spamming or sitting on brain burst is the worst way to play Psyker, the game is meant to be a hybrid combat game, play hybrid. Use melee when needed, have gamer sense to notice if there’s a poxwalker next to you, use a staff to either stun, burn or obliterate your enemies, use brain burst for damage support on single targets, this is how I roll and I kick ass in heresy/damnation. Psyker is a damage support/tank class

[acoustic steppe]

Well I play with zealots who deal 7k dmg on a monstrosity headshot

what makes the psykcer good?

[devout belfry]

Yeah, it isn't a thing lol. It's just aesthetic stuff like this:

[tacit fractal]

I just explained it

[young summit]

blue balls of doom spam?

[tacit fractal]

Also how do you know you do 7k damage to a monster?

[devout belfry]

Coherency bonus is pure damage, you can block with peril instead of stamina, best ult, cc.

[young summit]

thats in the pycinarium traing area

[hexed viper]

yes! voidstrike op!

[hot ice]

dunno what else to look for then, because to me thats a green eagle

[summer prairie]

monstrosity damage doesn't matter at all though

[tacit fractal]

Monstrosities aren’t in the psykhanium my sibling

[young summit]

getting 50+ kills in a single attack is cheffs kiss

Thats spammable 😅

[hexed viper]

you have the correct icon. you must have glitched or something. try again

[hot ice]

flame staff my beloved

[tacit fractal]

Purgatus is amazing for tank psyker

[hot ice]

i will

[hexed viper]

especially with Transfer Peril perk

[acoustic steppe]

Guess I'll jsut have to keep playing on hard mode and git gud

[devout belfry]

Keeps trying and gets the same proc rate as all other missions... 🤔

[lucid mortar]

You have to press the chat gem to enable the item drops

[hexed viper]

Psykers are rough at low level

[tacit fractal]

I’d disagree

Just get a braced autogun and you should be good

[hexed viper]

in general

it's rough

[tacit fractal]

Fair

[hot ice]

but why play psyker if ur using guns

[hexed viper]

to make up for the bs you gotta deal with at low level

[hot ice]

staff or bust

xd

[tacit fractal]

If your other option is trauma i’d choose braced

[hot ice]

STAFF OR BUST

[hexed viper]

trauma staff doesn't exist

[tacit fractal]

YOU USE BOTH SIBLING

[static epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/svt-dokyeom-seventeen-lee-seokmin-bend-back-gif-14285216

me aiming my trauma

[hot ice]

fr fr

[tacit fractal]

Get a staff that isn’t trauma staff, all of the staves except the trauma are great, depends on your build and playstyle and anyone who says otherwise have free will and right to say their opinion

[tacit fractal]

You use staff for cc and brain for single target dmg support

[hexed viper]

i've tried the 3 staves.. got the voidstrike and haven't changed since

[random wolf]

I wanna be able to look at teammate load outs in the ready screen though

So I can pick the right staff

[hot ice]

surge is honestly godly

[random wolf]

Overlapping Flamer with Purgatus is a bit redundant.

[hot ice]

love its cc

[lucid mortar]

Trauma would be better if it didn’t scatter the hordes

[hexed viper]

it only cc's like 6 enemies

[tacit fractal]

No, it’s the very slow high peril loadup on alt fire that sucks ass

[random wolf]

Which is fair, but you don't have to aim much and the range is solid

[hot ice]

and those 6 enemies include a burster, 2 specials and 2 bulwarks

[random wolf]

If you don't have a Vet it's not a bad idea.

[hexed viper]

headshots with voidstrike in a horde and you clear a fuck ton of adds

[hot ice]

i will say you suffer against trash clearing with it

[random wolf]

Which I agree and is my preferred playstyle. It just depends on groups.

[hot ice]

but its stuns on high-threat targets is great

[random wolf]

There's rarely no vets though lmao

[lucid mortar]

Either way it seems perfectly fixable. I’m still gonna stash one away in case they actually do fix it

[hot ice]

1 time on heresy, an unlucky spawn had a burster pretty much in the middle of our team and I surged his ass to the other side of the room

also its fun to tell a mutant that charging isnt allowed

[hexed viper]

should i stay awake all day and try to fix my schedule... or get at least a few hours of sleep to fix my scchedule.... if i decide to wake up that is

[shut thorn]

Void is better than bb

[tacit fractal]

I’ve played with all staves on heresy or damnation and honestly all of them are great in their own way, I used void strike constantly a lot at first but my build works better with high rate of fire chip damage (kinetic flayer) but surge’s stun is stupidly awesome when your teammate is competent, purgatus is the middle child of void and surge which also makes it amazing

[tacit fractal]

Void does more damage than +900 on a mauler and it can ignore bulwark shields? Damn

[shut thorn]

Yes

[summer prairie]

void has poor elite damage

[clear heath]

Yeah but it interrupts bulwarks from blocking.
Honestly the main reason i love surge is just cause i have too much trauma from groups of 4 bulwarks ending my runs

[shut thorn]

Get a better roll

[lucid mortar]

The best part about void for me is clipping heads of gunners behind cover

[hot ice]

in the time you get a BB off, you couldve gotten 2 void shots off and done the same if not more dmg

not to mention you hit the trash/other things near your target

ok no ignoring shield tho

haha

[tacit fractal]

Yeah

[hexed viper]

ok, but if you have a competent team, you shouldn't have to worry about the bulwark

[hot ice]

but when i run surge, using BB to stagger isnt needed

[static epoch]

I got +maniacs on mine other than that it's purely trash clear

well I am wrong sorry bursters and dogs

I meant to say I don't use it on any of the big boys. 😛

[hexed viper]

i will bb a reaper/bulwark, anything if my team doesn't knock it out fast enough and move on to voidstrike everything else

[worthy wasp]

Feel like ppl new to fatshark games arent used to the idea of spamming optimal melee rotations yet

[hot ice]

a good vet will take that bulwark out after the BB stagger, unless he has other targets he needs to kill'

[hexed viper]

melee is rough as a psyker though. the push attack with the force sword helps so much though

[shut thorn]

Im not switching off fs

[worthy wasp]

You lost me at "good teammate"

[lucid mortar]

I’m constantly torn between force sword and dueling

[hot ice]

force sword horde clear is a little annoying to spam id say

[hexed viper]

I survived being caught in a corner and being absolutely swarmed with the force sword push attack

[worthy wasp]

Build to do everything and dont let yourself be disappointed when others fail

[hot ice]

light > heavy > block cancel > repeat

[clear heath]

I've gotten pretty used to it and it's grown on me now

[hot ice]

sometimes my brain doesnt like doing that

[clear heath]

I find it pretty fun

[shut thorn]

Void 4 horde clear, fs to annoy vets

Simple as

[clear heath]

It actually fucks with my muscle memory on all my other classes tho

[hot ice]

i do when i get into the rhythm

[hot ice]

ahahaha so true

same with the other psyker weapons

[worthy wasp]

Void + FS and Surge + Antax Mk 5 are legit enough to everything yourself.

Snipe specials? Yep. Dunk on hordes? Yep. Deal with elites/armor? Yep. Clutch revive? Yep.

[clear heath]

tfw you get used to force sword and you can't melee on anything else anymore

[hot ice]

still looking for an antax mk 5

😭

[static epoch]

chainsword would like a word

[hot ice]

same with deflector force sword

[shut thorn]

Meh

[hot ice]

shop keep giving me dogshit/not what i want

fatshark PLEASE make it reset more often

[static epoch]

you can stand still and spam heavies

[worthy wasp]

Def feal like Psyker is the hardest class to play because its the worst designed by a mile, but its def strong as hell

[static epoch]

don't even have to move during a horde

[shut thorn]

I can press 2 and spam m2 m1

[vagrant cedar]

the game's longetivity would be shit then

[static epoch]

yuh 😄

[hot ice]

psyker is very micro intensive, depending on your weapons/play style

[random wolf]

Early on? Yes.

But at 30 the synergy falls into place and your staves help a lot

[worthy wasp]

Ye but there are a lot of shitters

[hot ice]

fuck no, do you really think making the shop reset faster will kill the longevity?

[tacit fractal]

I’d disagree that it’s the hardest from my experience

[hot ice]

"hmm yes, the reason i keep playing is to check the shop"

[shut thorn]

Ngl its good rn, just need that ps equiv gs

[vagrant cedar]

yes, because you will have all the shit faster than normal, you'll max out quicker. then what?

[clear heath]

If being able to get the right weapon types more often would kill the game's longevity, vermintide 2 would've died so much faster

[hot ice]

then you get to play the harder difficulties faster

[shut thorn]

I hope they actually add fgs

[hot ice]

aka where the fun is

[tacit fractal]

Warp charges should detiriorate per charge and not all at once though, all i’m saying

[vagrant cedar]

exactly

[worthy wasp]

Zealot, Vet, and Ogryn are all very intuitive on how they play what works and what doesnt.

Psyker? You are actively fighting against the design of the class and its very counterintuitive.

[thorn prairie]

I'm playing at a much higher level just using a headhunter autogun instead of a staff. Focusing on bursting elites and then taking out some ranged enemies in the backline. Since generally, players are incapable of seeing ranged enemies as a threat and will mongo rush

[vagrant cedar]

you'd be killing the longetivity of the game

[vocal agate]

When the "normal" is slow and rng based af maybe its time to change the "normal"...

[tacit fractal]

What?

[vagrant cedar]

that's what they pray on to make the game last longer and keep you playing, the RNG and cooldown

[lavish forge]

not that bad its literally just Light 1 Heavy 2 then block cancel and I always throw in a push for good measure

[tacit fractal]

Staves exist also

[hexed viper]

except for trauma

[cyan owl]

Anyone here up to help with some penances?

[clear heath]

But vermintide 2 didn't need to do this. It had weapon crafting and the weapons had less rng for what they could end up as.

[hexed viper]

i fucking love your user name

[cyan owl]

Me too

[hexed viper]

MP is the best

[worthy wasp]

BB and Warp Charges are shit you ignore tbqh. The best talents are the ones that allow you to ignore their use as much as possible and generate them passively. You rely on your weapons and certain blessings/traits to tie it all together. And its strong as hell. But I totally understand how noobs are like, "yo this class is squishy glass cannon!!! And bb is doodoo!!! Class = ass!!! Buff plz"

[hot ice]

are you listening to yourself? case and point; Vermintide 2. EVERY friend ive had play doesnt manage to get to cataclysm because of the insane grind needed to play the hardest difficulties easily. Sure, you can stay on vet/champ and smack rats, but that only gets you so far. Its fucking boring on low levels, high difficulties are where your blood gets pumping and your skills are put to the test

[cyan owl]

Truly

[vagrant cedar]

sounds like a skill issue

[hot ice]

you're delusional

[vagrant cedar]

idk about VT2, i only played VT1

VT2 was shit

[worthy wasp]

What a guy

[static epoch]

strange thing to say cause people already finished damnation in green and blue gear at levels less than 30

[vagrant cedar]

^

[worthy wasp]

^

[hot ice]

imagine thinking the hour wait for shop reset is a good idea and isnt annoying as fuck

[worthy wasp]

I dont have a single piece of orange gear

And have been doing damn since before I was level 30

[clear heath]

but afking for an hour enhances longevity bro

[hexed viper]

that's about 2 missions worth give or take... it's not THAT bad

[worthy wasp]

Feels bad just because there isnt crafting

[hexed viper]

plus you also can grind emperor gift missions

[hot ice]

nope, i think its bad, nothing is changing my mind until crafting fully comes out

[hexed viper]

when they're available

[worthy wasp]

The system is perfectly fine, there just needs to be crafting

[vagrant cedar]

is that the ones with the green thingy on the right side of the icon on the map selection?

[hexed viper]

the green eagle, yes

[vagrant cedar]

ahh, i thought that it was random

now it makes sense, cheers

[hot ice]

speaking of crafting, why the fuck wasnt it released fully on day 1

[modern grove]

We discover what % chance of gift on completion is yet?

[hexed viper]

they had bigger issues to deal with

[worthy wasp]

Because ppl would have flipped shit if the game got delayed again

[cyan owl]

Such as implementing a cash shop

[hot ice]

of course, the premium shop

[hexed viper]

was likely already made long before anything else

[worthy wasp]

Yall complaining about cash shop are the weirdest ppl

[hexed viper]

or more easly implemented from other games

[digital raft]

Worst part is, the premium shop has an absolute garbage selection

[cyan owl]

That’s the issue

[hexed viper]

blame suits, not devs

[hot ice]

sounds like poor time management

[worthy wasp]

Yall trip me out lol

[hexed viper]

it's a cosmetic shop anyways... not like it's pay 2 win

[worthy wasp]

Go develop a game yourself

[hexed viper]

who cares about the shop

[worthy wasp]

See what issues come up

[hot ice]

no thanks, ill say what i want because im assmad

[worthy wasp]

See why it takes AAA companies years to put even the simplest of games together

[hot ice]

:(

[vagrant cedar]

i mean, you pay the money for the final product, it's like you make a deal

[cyan owl]

I don’t have a problem with it existing just that I think that there were more important things to take care of first

[worthy wasp]

This is a small company and they charged $40 because they knew full well the state the game was in and we still got ppl bitching about the cash shop

[vagrant cedar]

it's probably 100x easier to develop a simple cash shop than fix all the crashes and errors

[hexed viper]

very likely, suits had a deadline for the shop itself before anything else. that's how they'll make more $$$

[worthy wasp]

They need to finanace the fkn dedicated servers

Holy shit

[hexed viper]

or what sky said

[loud violet]

Those exist?

[worthy wasp]

Google how expensive it is to maintain dedicated servers

[hexed viper]

green eagle on the right side of the mission

[loud violet]

Oh.

[hot ice]

this, i dont care that the premium shop is a thing, but the fact that a big part of the hub isnt fully released leaves a sour taste in my mouth

[ripe stone]

WAIT what

[loud violet]

Guess I'll start doing them

[hexed viper]

@loud violet

[hot ice]

its not 100%

[cyan owl]

Yep

[hot ice]

as ive experienced

[loud violet]

so green eagle

like that

[hot ice]

LOL

[vale fiber]

i lost my beta helmet and i have some random thing now , any help ?

[worthy wasp]

Why the hell do you think for the longest time games with dedicated servers, like WoW or EQ, had subscription models?

[vagrant cedar]

milk the cow

[clear heath]

The game still feels too beta to have a cash shop, but whatever

[hexed viper]

that random thing is better than beta helmet. why need help?

[summer prairie]

the people who worked on the cash shop items wouldn't work on crafting or whatever

[vale fiber]

cause i want the beta helmet ?

[hexed viper]

but it's so ass

[hot ice]

doesnt change the fact that something as big as crafting being fully unlocked wasnt done by release date

[ripe stone]

it's probably in the list of "bald headed models" that you have there.

[summer prairie]

sure

[worthy wasp]

The issue is, gaming became popular at a casual level and a bunch of broke ass kids/ppl in their 20s cant afford or complain about the subscription model.

So instead we got cash shops. And many were pay2win for the longest time, but over time devs learned they dont need to offer "power" to get ppl to hand over money. They just need to make cosmetics.

[vale fiber]

i'm just here to have some help to maybe fix this bug i don't care about your fashion style

[cyan owl]

I hope they dont take too long to implement the features they promised

[fringe garden]

God go to the general channel to gripe, please. At least it can stay contained there

[hot ice]

@worthy wasp refer to my statement

[worthy wasp]

Thats how they keep dedicated servers going

[hexed viper]

why come to a class specific channel to get help with a bug?

[rich meteor]

CAN WE INSTEAD TALK BOUT HOW TO FIX BRAINBURST AND WARPCHARGES BEING DOGSHIT AT HERESY+

[worthy wasp]

Weve done that for a month+

[modern grove]

Just soulfire.

[vale fiber]

in case some psyker user add it before me lol ? i've already reported it so i was asking around

[cyan owl]

So yeah how about them penances

[hot ice]

welcome to the club

[modern grove]

Love the RNG penances

[hexed viper]

i mean, fair enough i guess

[hexed viper]

I think 7 for cliffhanger is wayyyyy to low of a number

[lavish forge]

Yeah brain burst damage not really scaling is an issue, however I guess they dont see a reason to buff it because you have tools to spam it and stay safe while dealing consistent damage

[hexed viper]

to go ffrom 20 to 7 is a fucking joke

[ripe stone]

me with 6/7 for the last 17 missions

[modern grove]

the achieve still says 20

[cyan owl]

Skill issue

[ripe stone]

yep

can't push, for some reason

[hexed viper]

the max i pushed off in 2 seconds was 16. i think 12 would be a decent number. when they changed it to 7, i immediately got the penance and achievement

7 just seems like a slap in the face

[cyan owl]

7 is fine

[modern grove]

They had to do something to make up for monstratus

[hexed viper]

i can't wait to do monstratus

[cyan owl]

Fuck that one

[hexed viper]

the level 30 perk is gonna help so much for that

bottom perk

[modern grove]

Getting a whole group to underperform so you can do a penance? Pure pain

[loud violet]

Just have to find a group on heresy that is friendly & can carry

which is rare but

not impossible

I helped another psyker get it yesterday

[hexed viper]

run a premade. don't do randoms

[cyan owl]

Harder than a solo damnation run

[loud violet]

and I still haven't gotten it yet

[hot ice]

I like how some penances feel like you're griefing, truly stellar work there, FS

[modern grove]

That's like, half of them/.

[hexed viper]

I still need to down 3 elites with my peril explosion

[dusky kettle]

They kinda act like an advanced tutorial. Adds the realisation of - oh yeah, my job is to pop dogs quickly before other classes can react - oh I can push enemies to their death, neat - oh exploding from perils does damage, cool. The monster one is so stupid though. What does it teach? Brain burst is terrible at boss damage?

[loud violet]

I did that by accident

I hadn't used surge staff for a while

[cyan owl]

That’s my next target

[loud violet]

had already just the peril vent

[hot ice]

It punishes people who have no friends and goes against the very essence of a team game

[loud violet]

so I just ran into a group of elites

[clear heath]

Pop dogs? Bro they take 2 headpops at hersey+

[hexed viper]

the dog one is one you should get early on

it was my first penance

[loud violet]

The most interesting ting I recently learned is that you can stun dogs with the force sword 'push' at range

[dusky kettle]

Aye, but the cheiv doesnt state a difficulty.

[loud violet]

so you can hide behind a pillar or w-e and hit the dog before it pounces you

[clear heath]

Getting the penance is easy.
i just mean as a thing to teach you, it doesn't really help

[loud violet]

and just slap it around

[hexed viper]

bad dog no biscuit

[loud violet]

I need to do the

Pick n' mix one

[dusky kettle]

Well this. They are so un-fun.

[clear heath]

just have friends

ez

[hot ice]

For some people thats hard

[cyan owl]

If anything this just means we should all get some friends

[hot ice]

[modern grove]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/penance

[hexed viper]

makes sense 100%

[clear heath]

for darktide players, having friends is harder than damnation

[hexed viper]

hey, i have friends

it's not THAT hard

[cyan owl]

I have too but i told not to get the game

In its current state

[hexed viper]

it was great at first. my first 30 hours were flawless

[hot ice]

100% this

[hexed viper]

now... i can't recommend it currently

[modern grove]

Having friends is easy. Having gamer friends who have Darktide and are available to play it when you are? Damnation+

[cyan owl]

Pretty much

[hexed viper]

just have more friends

duh

says the introvert...

[modern grove]

I forgot to mention they also need to WANT to play it...

That's what? 4 limiters?

[hexed viper]

needing friends, owning darktide, play time

[cyan owl]

That’s a penance in itself

[hexed viper]

why own it if you don't wanna play it?

[modern grove]

Because you want to play something else.

I wish I could play more than 1 game at at time.

[hexed viper]

i wish i could play this game and not crash every 5 minutes

[cyan owl]

I have like 2 crashes

[ripe stone]

update drivers issue?

[cyan owl]

In 40 hours

Surprisingly

[hexed viper]

everything is updated

apparently there are issues with people with ryzen processors

[acoustic spade]

Finally, a shotgun in the shop

[ripe stone]

I'm running a 3600 here and been smooth sailing

[clear heath]

Same

[hexed viper]

i dunno. it was a sudden issue one day

[cyan owl]

Psyker can use shotguns?

[near wyvern]

I thought they removed the shotguns from psykers??? Haven't seen one!

[hexed viper]

hasn't been fixed since then

[modern grove]

I just can't stand the RNG in this game. RNG shop, RNG emperor missions, RNG missions for penances, RNG penances.

[ripe stone]

try bringign down the number of worker threads

[hexed viper]

i've tried everything

i run best at 5

[wispy tangle]

game's been really stable for me since release, release performance was very poor, but the update fixed it and now the game runs really well until the memory leak issues kick in eventually and make it stuttery, intel + nvidia system

[acoustic spade]

Nah I've just been levelling my vet and even though I check the shop with psyker every hour, thats the first thing in like 3 days I am actually excited about seeing in the shop and it happens to be on a lv21 vet >.>

[hexed viper]

the issue with my crashing started 4-5 days before launch

[hot ice]

Shop is ass because crafting isnt fully out, something that really should've been done by release

[hexed viper]

it's gradually gotten better. first day the issue started, i crashed 5 times in 14 minutes

[modern grove]

I have news for you. Crafting is RNG.

[ripe stone]

maybe your fan curves aren't set right and you're overheating

did you try cleaning/airing out your pc

[hot ice]

Ill fucking take RNG crafting over waiting an hour for another disappointing shop rotation

[hexed viper]

why on this game suddenly when it's on low settings and yet i can play others on max settings?

[frail spire]

what do u guys like to pick as first feat?

[cyan owl]

Shit optimization

[hot ice]

Depends

[near wyvern]

Cause it's not optimised?

[modern grove]

For levelling? bottom

[ripe stone]

as others stated, poor optimisation for non-nvidia/intel users

[random wolf]

I can't remember what the first 3 perks are again lmao

[hexed viper]

@cyan owl fair points both of yall

[gray kelp]

keep doing those green eagle missions and not getting any emperor's blessings at the end, is it just a higher chance to get one than normal?

[hexed viper]

gain toughness on warp kill once you get a staff

[lucid mortar]

I’m on nvidia and AMD proc and have only crashed three times since pre-order beta. Win 11. Idk why I’m magical

[hexed viper]

i've received a gift on every one i ran

[hot ice]

I got massive performance boosts from putting that setting in video, the something 2.0 to balanced, the something 1.0 to off, and turning off motion blur @hexed viper

Forgot it's actual setting name lol

[gray kelp]

did 3 back to back and got nothing

[modern grove]

I wish xp did something after you hit 30. They keep throwing it in your face that you got some at the end of every mission.

[hexed viper]

motion blur is always off

[random wolf]

Oh that one. Yeah Transfer Peril for me.

[hot ice]

Seems so, im not getting anything from those missions either

[ripe stone]

I run this game on an RX 580 with a 3600 because i'm a gamer dad that only has about 300$ per upgrade that I can throw at it, and christmas is around the corner... i'm not buying a 6600 right now, so everything's on as low as it'll go, with as much of the stuff turned off... I get about 60fps average with FSR 2.0 on performance

[last sleet]

Toughness on quell is more reliable.

[hexed viper]

yeah, that was a weapon perk not feat... hence why i deleted the post. i got confused for a hot second

[hexed viper]

not with voidstrike staff

[thin crown]

That’s why u refund it on steam and play on gamepass lol

[ripe stone]

i've had maybe a handfull of crash to desktops in the beta

[modern grove]

I'm still running a 1080Ti.

[frail spire]

is it even worth to fully charge surge staff?

[hexed viper]

nah

[hot ice]

Im running DT on a 1070ti, im doing alright

[acoustic spade]

I have GTX1060 6GB, 3700X, with FSR2.0 on Ultra Performance and I had to cap my fps to 60 so it wouldnt go over 100 randomly and then lower and feel bad, consistent 60 is better

[thin crown]

I did haha the game is not worth 40€

[modern grove]

I'm not complaining, graphics on high here. Haven't tried ultra.

[hexed viper]

it was great during beta. i got my moneys worth the first 30 hours i was able to play

[thin crown]

What staff is the best for psyker?

[hexed viper]

situational

personally, i prefer voidstrike

[ripe stone]

and as far as the drivers go, don't trust AMD's Adrenaline auto-updater... go check on the website if you have an AMD card to get the most recent drivers

[modern grove]

Figure you spend 20 bucks to see a 2-3hr movie. Only gotta play for 4 hours to meet that return.

[hot ice]

Im genuinely having fun with DT but in its current state, i cannot recommend it to newcomers to the series in good faith

[granite narwhal]

any ideas on how to make psyker more useful in higher levels?

[hot ice]

Surge staff

Stuns go brrrrr

[thin crown]

Yea its the next staff i unlock bcuz surge is shit when your teammates are s….

[modern grove]

Soulfire.

[hot ice]

Your team will love you

[ripe stone]

Surge Staff + animation cancel

[hexed viper]

honestly... best quality of like perk is the movement speed while quelling

[noble garden]

Is soulfire actually useful for anything?

[trail forge]

Clearing trash and staggering

[thin crown]

Then noob team that dies even when you stun everything and kill all big mobs with G

[modern grove]

Should've been standard imo, the downtime to quell is bad enough.

[noble garden]

I will never use another perk instead of it

[hexed viper]

not with a decent staff

[granite narwhal]

i've tryed soulfire and surge staff, and i mostly just stand there chargeing up and by the time im done all the enemies are dead

[modern grove]

Unpopular opinion: Use a las rifle.

[granite narwhal]

yeah

[hot ice]

But you quell so fast with a staff anyway

[granite narwhal]

i thought as much

[thin crown]

Yea idk why but gamepass players are mostly 💩 so i stun them till they all die

[hardy fog]

Not needed at all in high difficulty’s

[hot ice]

Dont you dare

[hexed viper]

noted. have yet to do anything higher than t3

[lucid mortar]

You move faster while quelling with staff, idk if that perk is worth it

oh someone said that already sorry haha

[thin crown]

What are the best curios perks for psyker?

[lucid mortar]

this chat moves fast

[hot ice]

You are giving up Kinetic Deflection if you take the normal movement speed while quelling, which is an L

[hardy fog]

It isn’t . The other perks are way stronger and on damnation the team doesn’t move fast at all

[modern grove]

Quelling isn't even a viable thing to do in its current state

[granite narwhal]

i wont lie yall, i feel kinda useless playing at higher levels

[hardy fog]

Than you do a lot wrong

[hot ice]

What difficulty you talking about

[granite narwhal]

everything the psyker can do, everyone else can do better

[granite narwhal]

4 and 5

[thin crown]

Its your team np.

[tender cipher]

Here we go again

[lucid mortar]

Low level trains us to think we're DPS masters, but at high lvl we're mostly cc machines

[hardy fog]

Than learn to play a psyker. Best cc for elites . Specially with Animation cancellation

[tender cipher]

We are the only class with high damage AoE and high level single target dps under certain conditions

[hardy fog]

That’s not true

[hot ice]

No one can CC like a psyker with surge

[tender cipher]

And the only class that has easy access to CC

[hexed viper]

i just crashed again... fucking heart breaking

[clear heath]

idk about us winning in single target dps when the other classes can use bolters

[hexed viper]

yeah.. vet easily outclasses us in that category

[tender cipher]

Conditional.

[thin crown]

F surge staff its boring gameplay stunning for people that can’t use the benefits of it, i stun them and have to finish them still by myself

[granite narwhal]

Zelot gets CC granades from the start and it stuns everything in range

[hexed viper]

grenades are highly limited when a staff charge isn't

[hot ice]

Ok and how many times can they do that

[tender cipher]

How many grenades do they get and how many charges does a surge staff has?

[hot ice]

Then its not on you, its on your team for not taking advantage of it

Although that is definitely annoying when it happens

[stiff maple]

Surge is lit in pre-mades

[tender cipher]

And how much damage does a zealot grenade do vs a staff?

[modern grove]

Read as: always

[hot ice]

So true

[ripe stone]

No one CCs like Gaston.

[acoustic spade]

confirmed, Gaston was a psyker

[granite narwhal]

its not fun to play psyker for me, i dont find standing the back holding right click down to be very fun

[noble garden]

I must confess i feel worthless as a psyker when playing anything over sedition. I usually aplogize to my team and fling myself from the nearest railing

[hot ice]

Queueing up with friends go brrrr

Shoutout to my vet friend who knows how to take advantage of my surge staff

[stiff maple]

Lore accurate

[tender cipher]

That’s a different argument than “everyone does everything better”

[hexed viper]

i never have a game where i'm not meleeing at some point. what are you doing staying so far back?

[thin crown]

Yea true when i’m gonna queue with my friend he is gonna use it right atleast

[ripe stone]

don't try to Brain Burst everything, keep it for the "big threats". get yourself a good melee weapon and a recon rifle, get into the front line, and push those waves of hordes back with your F

[normal monolith]

uuugalhgfd

[granite narwhal]

it is, but it still stands, the other classes can do everything better

[hot ice]

Play another class then, or change your playstyle and dont give a fuck about others, simple as

[normal monolith]

I got trolled so hard https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700594590222123049/1048966519872303174/image.png

[tender cipher]

We just literally proved you wrong.

[hot ice]

Sometimes i just want to rock purgatus

[granite narwhal]

you are not helpful in the lest

[balmy barn]

the interesting thing is: playing Zealot Main - in our channel everyone else can everything better 😛

[granite narwhal]

you really didnt,

[hot ice]

Problem: I am not having fun on X

Solution: Dont play X, or change how you play X to suit your tastes

[hexed viper]

we corrected you on the cc thing with zealot grenade. we really did

[modern grove]

Let's be honest, Veteran rules this game.

[stiff maple]

Use Antax, use the peril block talent, profit in melee

[tender cipher]

You’re saying a zealot with limited grenades can put cc a surge psyker who can cc on demand

[hexed viper]

Ogryn

[tender cipher]

God you really are hopeless

[modern grove]

Only for defense.

[thin crown]

Bro if someone could play atleast the other characters right people would play psyker right if they are 💩 ima do what i want with psyker

[stiff maple]

For staff? Use surge in pre made and profit. If pugging, Use voidstrike and profit.

[hexed viper]

nah... ogryn is a must just as a vet

[noble garden]

Zealots also tend to be extremely conservative with them for some reason. Some games with 2 zealots you see maybe one stun grenade the entire round

[modern grove]

Because of the shield.

[magic hull]

this is good

[meager locust]

Odd question siblings, is Pick n' Mix bugged by chance

[hot ice]

Oof that warp res

[hexed viper]

being able to pick up and not get knocked out of the revive, toughness buff, they have their uses more than just being a shield

[stiff maple]

I think it is

Hearing about people get it on malice

[tender cipher]

If you play as a psyker with zealots then why would they use nades? They would just save it for when you go down

[stiff maple]

Which reminds me I need to get it

[modern grove]

IDK the voices that whisper to me say that the warp is my friend.

[hot ice]

Shoutout to Ogryns for picking up the objectives and getting it done faster

[noble garden]

True enough

[near wyvern]

Warp resistance sucks on that, so it's not good. The reason you bring surge is for the CC spam, warp resistance and quelling speed are the most important for it.

[stiff maple]

I got warp battery unintentionally on Damnation lol

[meager locust]

Ran a mega long high intensity Heresy and no progress at all when I swear I had multiple instances of brain bursting in a row at least up to 4 in 12 seconds

[stiff maple]

And with the demon host counting for MM too? In def gonna get it

[modern grove]

You just described other ways that they are a shield.

[meager locust]

I need to get 'round to gettin that one, the Malleus Monstronum one

[thin crown]

How do you brain burst 5 elites in 12 seconds ?!

[stiff maple]

Do pick and mix on malice

[magic hull]

its not amazing, it's good what r u on about lol

the crit chance is what i care about for this one

[summer prairie]

it's essentially only 4 since the timer starts when you kill the first one

[stiff maple]

Level 30 talent

[meager locust]

Pain and suffering but also this,

[hot ice]

As long as you quell to 97% or lower, you can spam BB, also lvl30 talent bottom one

[hexed viper]

also the perk needed for Monstratum

[thin crown]

Ah ok thank you so it doable but just very difficult roger that!

[meager locust]

Ah I thought the brain burst needed to be cast at the latest at 93%

Extremely difficult for the MM one assuming you've got very trigger happy friends :)

[hexed viper]

97. I've cast a bb and hit 100, then suddenly jumped back down to 97

[hot ice]

97%, 98% if you run tranquillity and have i think 4 or more stacks of warp

I dont remember how much specifically

[stiff maple]

97.5

[meager locust]

Ahhh that'd be where my number was messin up since I stopped running Inner Tranquility for a bit a while ago

[stiff maple]

But just treat as 97

[meager locust]

Am back to running it, its borderline necessary

[vagrant cedar]

you can use it at 100 as well

but if you'll gonna burst, just pop F

and you'll drop to 50

[hot ice]

^

[vagrant cedar]

it's a fail-safe

[meager locust]

Ye but ya see I don't have it all the time :^)

Good to see more number confirmation means I can more effectively edge my Psyker

[stiff maple]

You can use it at 100 and pop unless you have F true

[hot ice]

Edging your perils is the way to go when spamming BB

[modern grove]

But the penance says I should explode and take at least 3 elites with me.

[hexed viper]

no need to pop when you already have it

[meager locust]

[modern grove]

I'm joking.

[vagrant cedar]

idk about that penance, i just said in general

[hexed viper]

fair, i'm extremely tired

[meager locust]

That penance about suicide bombing 3 elites, I can understand the other ones even though difficult don't really require sabotaging

[modern grove]

Keeping BB max charges for 3min is usually sabotaging, monstratus is sabotaging, mix em up is sabotaging....

[hexed viper]

i mean, killing elites with your death isn't quite sabotaging....

[meager locust]

I managed to get that one kinda comfortably on my own cause the ai director spawning stuff behind you is very good for keeping it up :^)

Wait did they drop it to 3 minutes and not 5? thats awesome if so

[thick surge]

it's only a problem if you achievement hunt or you're a completionist. If you just play normally you'll likely eventually get all the achievements anyway except dmg 90% boss with bb by yourself

[hot ice]

Nah, i got warp battery by complete accident

[meager locust]

Fair indeed

[hot ice]

Wasnt even trying to get it, just got lucky with my Psychic Communion and did BB when I could

[hexed viper]

psyker ones are typically , you'll get it eventually except for monstratus and the other

[modern grove]

I just want the cosmetics so I don't look like trash.

[lament zealot]

Okay I'm pretty sure some of the trauma staff stats are broken and don't function, at all. Is this the case with other stats on other weapons? The game might be broken. Look at this post to see what I'm talking about. https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/trauma-staff-stats-are-unbalanced-and-unnoticeable-peril-generation-blast-radius/65496

[hexed viper]

trauma staves don't exist

don't worry about them

[hot ice]

this game might be broken
Really?

[thin crown]

What is a trauma staff? 🫣

[jolly wasp]

FaLsE AdVeRtIsiNg

[lament zealot]

but seriously, look at the post, blast radius doesn't increase the circle, peril generation is 3% less with a stat that is 40% higher

if its the same for all weapons then weapon balance is even worse than I thought

[hot ice]

I would, but i dont use the trauma staff

So not my problem

[hexed viper]

charge speed is only .2 seconds faster from lowest roll to max roll

[hot ice]

Ahahahaha

[modern grove]

Trauma is the weakest staff anyway

[lament zealot]

might be bugged for the other staffs too

[hexed viper]

the difference can be minute

[paper trail]

I think it might increase the damage inside the circle as I notice the center of the circle does a lot more damage than the outer ring of the circle

the center of the circle will blow the arms and legs off a person

[lament zealot]

is their radius definition different than mine?

[paper trail]

I've never had one with 2 to test

[hexed viper]

do yourself a favor. ignore trauma staves

[hot ice]

^

[stiff maple]

If I had to guess, epicentre damage is max damage, anything past might experience damage fall off

Epicentre radius I mean

[hot ice]

All trauma staff does anyway is scatter the horde and make it more annoying to fight

[lament zealot]

the thing is, doesn't matter if its 80% radius or 40%, it's still borked because it doesn't kill anything that is not in the 2 metres in the centre

[stiff maple]

Voidstrike has the same stat

🙂

[paper trail]

look at this badboy I got though

[stiff maple]

Damn

What a tragedy

[paper trail]

best staff I got and dont use it

[jolly wasp]

just keep it for when trauma gets a buff

knowing fatshark it will

[hot ice]

If you squint you can imagine it as a void staff

[hexed viper]

that because of the explosion from the contact with terrain though

[lament zealot]

trauma needs a buff yes, but if you are brave try it, it's actually pretty good for killing shit in chokepoints and for staggering elites, it also one shots bursters with no charging at diff 5

[random wolf]

Yay or nay?

[craggy wagon]

Hello, what were the pre order bonus I was supposed to get ? Are there cool armors or anything ? Because it seem that I didn't get anything

[stiff maple]

Correct

[hot ice]

Yay

[random wolf]

Beta helmets.

Unless you got the Imperial Edition.

[hexed viper]

preorder bonus was the 2 weeks of early beta playtime that started on the 15th(?)

[stiff maple]

It also counted the closed beta

[hot ice]

That is a nice jump in warp res for not much tradeoff

[craggy wagon]

Ok so I got the beta helmets and the portrait, but I played 2 days before official release

[hexed viper]

that's pretty much it

[craggy wagon]

Ah... jesus

[stiff maple]

My friend had his hardwood floors re-done and missed the pre-order beta, but still got the beta rewards. However he did participate in the previous beta so it makes sense he got it.

[hexed viper]

fair

[random wolf]

That and supressing enemies is a bit useless when they're all.. on fire/dead soon.

[hexed viper]

also, how long did it take them to do the fucking floors? holy shit how slow was that team?

[paper trail]

Wanna go out tonight? Sorry can't getting my floor done

[hot ice]

Might’ve been more than just the floors done

[hexed viper]

i would hope so... just doing hardwood floors should not take more than a week... let alone 2

and that includes ripping out the old shit

[stiff maple]

Took a full 3 weeks. Apparently it was an HVAC related issue and they had to do some extra work, but they fully replaced like 60% of the hardwood floors. Previous owner of the condo only had the hardwood sanded down and repaired instead of replaced. The water damage was very spread out.

[random wolf]

Consecrated it for fun. I have a crit Purgatus staff now I guess lmao

[hexed viper]

an HVAC related issue with flooring?? what?

[stiff maple]

Correct. HVAC system caused the issue due to leaking

Water got in and caused damage to the floors over time

[hexed viper]

that makes more sense.

[stiff maple]

My friend just bought the condo like a year ago, maybe less

[hexed viper]

only viable way for HVAC to affect flooring lol

[stiff maple]

He had no idea unfortunately

Yeah lol

[hexed viper]

i was so confused for a sec

so the hvac had to get fixed before the rest of the floor could be taken care of

[stiff maple]

Yes yes

[hexed viper]

ok. it all makes sense now. i guess 2 weeks is fine

[hexed viper]

well, HVAC could also affect flooring with floor vents too. only OTHER way

[jolly wasp]

who fucking cares

[lunar garden]

I support this

[zinc phoenix]

You’re not wrong, laminate install in a ~2k sqft condo only takes a couple days. But water damage might mean having to replace support beams etc

[lunar garden]

I thought we was talking WARP. And Tzeeetch mommy

[hexed viper]

oh no, a conversation between 2 people in a dead chat has people that don't care about it... who gives a fuck?

[jolly wasp]

go autist about hvac somewhere else

[hexed viper]

go fuck yourself

[zinc phoenix]

Bugger off child

[lunar garden]

The chat does not seem dead though

[lunar garden]

Yo, chill you gonna pop a vessel.

[hexed viper]

5 minutes of just the other guy and myself

[hidden scaffold]

So, a bit confused about the 'Mind over Matter'..
I'm at 4/7.. But I'm pretty sure I did every Mission type?

I had no issue unlocking it on my Zealot and Veteran, or does Psyker require something specific?

[hexed viper]

not necessarily dead, but nothing else was being talked about

[lunar garden]

So your house flooded?

[hexed viper]

check the mission tab under penances

[zinc phoenix]

HVAC leak apparently, which means water from the cooling pan probably went everywhere

[lunar garden]

You should check the penance boards, it does tell you what to do in order to unlock it.

[lunar garden]

Sounds annoying. I don't have a water heater where I live so I practically freeze every time I shower.

[zinc phoenix]

Can’t remember what the dang pan is actually called but heaters have one on top and you best check that anyone who works on yours doesn’t mess it up or you’ll get a lot of water in the house

[zinc phoenix]

Oh that’s the water heater, ours rusted out and flooded the whole garage once it was a nightmare

[hexed viper]

yikes

[hidden scaffold]

It just says 4/7.

If I look under the missions, every mission has completed ones since I played Veteran and Zealot before?

[slate seal]

Can showers are based. It sucks but you're doing good things for your body.

[zinc phoenix]

“My nuts shrank three sizes today, this is fine”

[tender cipher]

Nice. It'll build up your immunse system or something.

[slate seal]

This channel should have a psyker FAQ/guide pinned

[tender cipher]

Immune*

[lunar garden]

Hmmm, maybe you could check it online on a Reddit thread. I can't check it as of right now cause I'm not gaming.

[tender cipher]

Use your staff. BB only select targets. Stop whining about warp charges.

[lunar garden]

It only builds tear in my eyes

[zinc phoenix]

The penances are super buggy, half of them just won’t trigger or have false trigger information

[slate seal]

I was called "the worst psyker I've ever played with" yesterday so I need it

For context I accidentally had a snub nose pistol equiped so that wasn't ideal

[hexed viper]

that snub didn't help you at all

[tender cipher]

Then you should've made it your effort to truly be the worst by exploding over and over.

[slate seal]

Oh don't you worry I still managed to blow myself up at least once

[zinc phoenix]

Take the “block with peril” trait, the “warp charges from coherency” trait and the “quell gives you toughness” trait and you’ll be good

[hexed viper]

also, there are only 3 types of staves. voidstrike, purge, and surge.

trauma doesn't exist

[lunar garden]

They should change the snup revolver loading animation. Instead of loading all 5 cartridges, they should've added a speed loader.

[tender cipher]

@devout halo Hark, we have a non-believer!

[slate seal]

I tried void. Not a fan. I like roleplaying as senator Palpatine.

UNLIMITED POWERRRRR

[zinc phoenix]

Void is absurdly strong and also hard to blow yourself up with

Surge is the psyker eater

[devout halo]

stop tagging me HAHHAHA

[hexed viper]

void is good against hordes when aimed head level. especially with Transfer Peril perk that quells 3.5% peril per weakspot hit

[lunar garden]

[tender cipher]

😦 But I ❤️ u

[lunar garden]

Don't @ my mans

[sick kindle]

Surge CC is a fun route to go. I had no idea trauma was bad though. Kept using it to trip certain enemies toward me to force sword charge. I suppose it's usefulness drops quite hard when you're progging heresy and damnation.

[hexed viper]

splits hordes too much

[devout halo]

oh ok, keep tagging then

[lunar garden]

I still believe some Psycher traits need balancing. It would be could that you could blow two heads with one charge. Unless its a crusher or reaper.

[wispy tangle]

make BB burst heads of all targets in a 5 meter radius around a target

but only during the lvl 30 feat

[lunar garden]

Sounds broken, the EMPEROR will approve.

[prisma minnow]

looks like there's been a bit of a shift in love towards the antax mkv over the FS? I really love the special attack of the FS sword, and I'm running surge and have no problem as of right now just hacking through stunned hordes. is it worth dropping the sword for the axe?

[lunar garden]

Axe is good for Zealot

[jolly wasp]

the axe build is nice but FS is viable to, with axe you take peril blocking and the blessing that blocks ranged attacks

[lethal plover]

sword is for blocking bullets, dodge spamming and utility
combat axe is good for just killing things

[lunar garden]

Dueling sword and heavy sword are my personal favorite.

[jolly wasp]

also warp charge on kill and brainburst on attack, with the lv 5 talent to get toughness on warp charge

with that setup Axe is very good at T4+

[sick kindle]

What I want to know is if the force weapon trait is even worth using if you're going to be a CC bot in damnation progging anyway since BB doesn't damage scale. As opposed to taking those extra peril resist per charge trait.

[lunar garden]

[wispy tangle]

not really

+6% peril resist per stack is way higher value

[potent echo]

You can still farm stacks in ambient when there's nothing going on

[untold kestrel]

what staff will you be using?

[potent echo]

So peril per stack is not useless

[zinc phoenix]

Peril resist trait is imo better because I have no idea what if anything even counts as a force weapon while dang near everything does a peril and my warp charges are usually stacked PDQ

[lunar garden]

The force sword literally grounds you for a good 4 seconds before delivering the attack and it won't kill at times.

[potent echo]

Force sword and staves

[zinc phoenix]

It does a buttload of damage and you can skip the animation

[hexed viper]

don't gotta worry about BB if you have the passive warp charge feats

[untold kestrel]

if void/fire then the force weapon damage is good, if surge then go for peril resist

[zinc phoenix]

Have you tested it tho?

[potent echo]

Yes

[lunar garden]

How can you skip it? By dodging?

[zinc phoenix]

Does it affect the standard force sword swing or only the charged one?

[untold kestrel]

only charged

all staff stuff

and bb

[potent echo]

Standard swings get more damage too

[tender cipher]

Pretty sure you can escape it by blocking too.

[potent echo]

For me I got that, but I only tested once

[untold kestrel]

you sure about that?

[wispy tangle]

biggest reason for wanting BB buffs for me, some QoL on it would be nice and i would like to not feel forced to use the warp charge maintenance perks at all times if BB was a bit less awkward to use

[potent echo]

Someone can test again

[lunar garden]

I'm unable to game at the moment, Siblings. So I can't test your theories.

[hexed viper]

i only use bb if the team is taking too long on reapers/bulwarks. as a psyker you shouldn't really have to deal with them if your vet is doing their job

[potent echo]

Does changing the talent in the meat grinder screw up the numbers or nah

[tender cipher]

Vet may not use a bolter, so you may have to open it up with a BB or stagger it

[lunar garden]

I believe Psykers should just deal with any elite. Makes it easier for the squad to progress and look for drops.

[tender cipher]

But also if you have a void staff at long ranges you can just splash its face. Only takes about 4-5 hits.

[lethal plover]

If you block you skip the last bit of the force sword animation

[wispy tangle]

the other thing is that i think having warp charges only decay 1 at a time instead of losing all them in a lull would be amazing, and make warp battery feat actually appealing as a choice

[hexed viper]

vets are better at it than a psyker is

[potent echo]

Yes in theory but when there's 2 bulwarks and 3 ragers running at you cant be bb-ing

[hexed viper]

i definitely agree that they shouldn't disappear at once

[tender cipher]

If they made it so you gain warp charges on ANY warp kill then it would open up a lot of different play styles -- probably.

[modern grove]

I think their intended design was to have psyker as the elite hunter, but the game did not turn out that way.