psyker-class

[ember kiln]

Okay thanks, It's in my weekly shop now and I wasn't sure whether to get it. Thanks man

[harsh cobalt]

it's just there so many angles to cover in DT, from range and melee

I can see it being much harder than VT2 to solo

[shut swallow]

Vet with counterfire might be able on damnation.

[ruby merlin]

I hope we get damnation 3+ soon

because normal damnation is very puggable without comms even.

We need harder difficulties so we can see players run those tournies again.

[harsh cobalt]

I can imagine you kite this horde like a god, then two dregs just break your toughness from a mile away and stagger you. Rip

[ruby merlin]

Yep exactly lol

[shut thorn]

Keep npc count of current damnation and raise hp of enemies tbh

[stoic tendon]

not gonna lie having more than 2 psykers on a team is a pox

[ruby merlin]

Eh raising HP isn't really a massive skill check, but upping spawn rate, specials, that sort of stuff is pretty fun.

[hasty wolf]

bruh

[tender cipher]

?

[tender cipher]

Nice item.

[harsh cobalt]

maybe damnation just needs to spawn elites with some periodicity in hordes. As of now as I understand only specials can spawn mid level. All elites are seeded when level is generated

[shut thorn]

Post entire item

[boreal wave]

So the first thing you should look at is the modifiers. A good weapon worth pursuing for upgrades will have as close to 400 points in modifiers as possible.

[shut thorn]

Lol

[tender cipher]

LOL

[heady bramble]

I don't know a ton about item stats and i just hit 30. What numbers should i be looking for?

[stoic tendon]

dunno its much harder

[hasty wolf]

2% is pretty good if you ask me

[tender cipher]

That's a player problem

[hasty wolf]

but 3%

hoh boy

that's the stuff

[tender cipher]

If I run into a team with 2+ psykers, it tends to be pretty easy on most missions.

[ruby merlin]

@heady bramble mostly you can do damnation with green gear, pick a weapon you like.

[tender cipher]

Just the staff spam is a bit too much.

As in it's very easy to get complacent

[shut thorn]

Bad psykers

[lethal plover]

Difficulty?

[tender cipher]

Heresy.

I literally start falling asleep. Because if mobs get close to you then it's going to be surge staff that covers you, otherwise void strikes and whatever else will kill almost everything along the way

[bitter orbit]

Are they really gonna put the power out missions on rotation?

That's kinda stupid

[shut thorn]

3 void 1 surge runs are ez mode

[spice ermine]

😳

[tropic halo]

two psykers is a ton of crowd control, if one's more about killing them then that's a plus. then you got them headpopping all the elites. throw in a veteran with a boltgun or a zealot with a flamethrower and heresy feels like uprising

[tender cipher]

Even if it's 1 surge / 1 void you basically cover all the bases for the most part.

[stoic tendon]

PURGATUS!

[shut thorn]

Paul allen spotted

[spice ermine]

thats my baby

[shut thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-stare-card-scene-going-insane-american-psycho-gif-26261029

[novel stratus]

dripped out

[austere burrow]

i will say, void + surge games are extremely funny

[round charm]

is this decent?

[austere burrow]

they cover each other very well

[eager moat]

no

[shut thorn]

No

[tender cipher]

Yeah I was grouped with a pretty good psyker named Mara earlier who had a surge staff, we covered most of it.

[ornate hamlet]

The blessing is nice

[tender cipher]

Didn't really need the veteran or zealot.

[edgy cedar]

so testing out the damage bonus based on perils (which says 5-15%) it does adapt to having up to 6 max stacks.

a bit late reply lol

so kind easy to assume shield will scale as well

[long wharf]

good god I hate Pick n Mix so much

[fading jewel]

is this just damage?

[pearl thicket]

why would either of those talents interact with your stacks

[edgy cedar]

oh wait im dumb

please ignore me

[potent echo]

Gimmr

[shut thorn]

Ngl tempted to start running guns to deride vets of ammo

[potent echo]

Take revolver, worse ammo efficient gun (I think)

[sleek crystal]

i thought of running guns but I cba to look for ammo all the time 😛

[shut thorn]

They don't deserve ammo

[wide quest]

Still waiting for a force sword with deflector ;-;

[sleek crystal]

give of reblessing ! 😄

[wide quest]

Or honestly anything usable that's over 360 base because I've never seen anything I want that's over 360

[sleek crystal]

got a 380 force sword today 😄

[shut thorn]

Soon

[wide quest]

;-;

Been standing here for a whole day, waiting, and waiting.

[shut thorn]

Dt gameplay

Spend days at armory just to play for 2hr of missions

[edgy cedar]

Gotta love when the game becomes a chore

[wide quest]

I like the reward system in vermintide 2 way more

You get stuff by playing the game

[shut thorn]

Same

[lethal lagoon]

Kind of demoralizing when people who've never even beaten at a t4, let alone t5, have better gear than me because of the armory.

[wide quest]

It do be like that

[edgy cedar]

while I liked boss loot die, I dont really want people to actively want to kill daemonhosts 😛

[wide quest]

Exactly, that too

[shut thorn]

Kinda depressing seeing ppl not buy 380 greys

[edgy cedar]

but yeah coming from VT2, or even DRG with mining events and other shit etc just playing the game is not heavily rewarded

[wide quest]

I can't even have a single 380 grey in my shop to even buy em D:<

Let alone 360 ;-;

Sadge

Cries in warp noises

[shut thorn]

Ive seen a streamer delete 360 and 380 greys

Frustrating

[edgy cedar]

streamer rng

[boreal wave]

You want, first and foremost, as close to 400 as possible in your modifiers before a weapon is worth considering for upgrades

[edgy cedar]

either god mode, or dumpster mode

[round charm]

it was in the shop, was maybe gonna buy it

[subtle linden]

i hope reblessing comes out soon

[wide quest]

Boutta pop myself and release the daemonic force of the warp onto those streamers

[shut thorn]

He's a scam artist

[latent ingot]

I completed pick n mix on malice somehow

wtf

[shut thorn]

Keep your dockets for cosmetics

[wide quest]

[latent ingot]

that’s so bugged lmfao

[boreal wave]

The armory servitor was a Ferengi in his past life

[shut thorn]

Hadron is a lazy bitch

[boreal wave]

This is actually the vault of eternal destitution

[edgy cedar]

thats her job yes

[wide quest]

So you just find a group of ragers along with like any other special/elite and bam, ggez

[shut thorn]

She can literally make weps

Yet refuses to

Also blames us for her broken servitor

Is she even a tech priest tbh

[boreal wave]

She talks down to us a lot

[wide quest]

I like it

[young zinc]

so, does the damage stat on froce swords determine how much damage thier special charged up attack does?

[raw oriole]

I knew you gained the bonus damage, just difficult to figure out the damage reduction from shield

[wide quest]

Not that I'm a masochist or anything, yeah

[boreal wave]

As psykers I guess we should be used to it. The other characters insult us even when we Revive them

[shut thorn]

How do we know that hadron isnt a hamster

[wide quest]

How do we know that hadron isn't, hadron?

[normal monolith]

I’m a bit sad both of my 400+ drops have been autoguns

[fallow kiln]

Hadron is 3 servitors in a trench coat

[shut thorn]

Cuz she doesn't do her job

[edgy cedar]

dont worry im dumb, ignore my reply lol

[normal monolith]

Hadron is still a headpat generator, headpat the angry techpriestess

[shut thorn]

Dmg, finesse and first target are combined

[edgy cedar]

isnt finesse just crit chance/dmg?

[shut thorn]

Finesse gives you modifiers

2.35x is max

[pearl thicket]

should be attack speed and weakpoint damage

[shut thorn]

^

You should also do special heavies

[normal monolith]

High finesse to become a whirlwind of death

[shut thorn]

Can get to like 1.5k+

Dmg

[pearl thicket]

all weapons with a special modifying the next hit should be used with heavies

[shut thorn]

Its v satisfying to just two shot a crusher

Or one shot mauler

[clear heath]

that and crit damage

[ornate hamlet]

whatever one of you it was that head popped the mutant that was slamming my face on the floor, thank you

that is all

[night marten]

finally

[shut thorn]

Nice!

[formal osprey]

That there is a fine axe

[night marten]

Have all the psyker penances except Lifeleech 4/5 at this point. feels good man

[dusk pilot]

Only thing stopping me from getting my hood was not knowing what missions I had done for the "Do every type of mission" penance, got it eventually tho :o

Now I'm working on the second hood, lot of stuff to do tho penance wise

[mint burrow]

How important is the damage stat on the purgatus?

[edgy cedar]

it says the same damage basically regardless of value

think ive sene one point of difference? lol

[inner bay]

why tf is passive quelling speed so long with force weapons? did some test and needed 28s to go from 100 to 0 with force sword, 47s with a staff and only 9s with a chainsword

[fast slate]

how do ypou do that?

[bold maple]

this is why you should just not quell at all

quelling from 100-0 takes a hot 4-5s, just pull out melee and wack til its gone

[lethal plover]

Who cares for below 50. Speed of quelling from 100 to 50 is what matters

[magic hull]

worth?

[inner bay]

true, but it's still a lot slower with the weapons that use the mechanic

[lethal plover]

Go test it. Nobody takes 20 seconds to quell ever

[inner bay]

it's like having a slower reload speed with veteran

[mint burrow]

Okay lol

[lethal plover]

It's not a problem once you have played well. Peril is pretty much free

[primal aurora]

A question about gear score of generated items. Is it calculated based on items you own or items you wear or just your level?

[shut thorn]

Good void or fs

[worthy wasp]

BB 3 shots crushers, no?

[shut thorn]

So you can use the peril dmg feat

[worthy wasp]

BB can 3 shot Unyielding too, but you need 5 or 6 warp charges

[shut thorn]

T4/t5

[worthy wasp]

Ye

In t5

[shut thorn]

Void and fs

Are faster

[worthy wasp]

Ye 2 shot

[edgy cedar]

just seems like level and the nRNG

[worthy wasp]

But BB doesnt require LoS

Not saying BB is better but

[proud hare]

any tips on killin the 5 diff elites in 12 secs on heresy? its my last penance i need done

[worthy wasp]

No los 3 shots can be solid

[steel vortex]

I'm naming my psyker "sussus amogus"

[shut thorn]

2long

[steel vortex]

its not.

[shut thorn]

Epic

[inner bay]

isn't it bugged?

[shut thorn]

Is it?

[inner bay]

i get 10% more at 100% peril instead of 15%

[edgy cedar]

because ytou get 5% min

lol

[shut thorn]

Haven't played in like 3 days due to east european significant event

[edgy cedar]

0% 151 no perk selected
0% 159 with perk
100% 171

[inner bay]

yeah I'm retarded

thought you had to have some peril for it to works

[edgy cedar]

been trying to do 6 stacks but relying entirely on either BB to refresh or 4% rng causes me to lose stacks even in combat often :/

but when at 6 having 36% peril reduction is nice lol

[cedar grove]

I feel like I hardly ever melee on Psyker unless I'm charging my sword to snipe a rager or something

otherwise I quell down a bit, then keep spamming void balls

[stoic mural]

grats

[uncut hamlet]

Finally

[stoic mural]

That second one sounds like a pain if you're in a pug

[inner bay]

does block efficiency affect and/or warp resistance of the force sword affect how much peril you get from kinetic deflection?

[olive ember]

I finally got pick n mix with my friends, got god luck and had 3 gunners and two reapers, my friends softened up the reapers and the gunners just stood there in a line w/o taking any cover

[shut thorn]

Now just do malleus and pick

[ivory marsh]

psykers

what curios you want

[cedar grove]

That's why you ask in this chat or LFG for some penances

[ivory marsh]

or does it not matter

[shut thorn]

Itd be easier if we saw hp

[wide quest]

Yep, that's why the blessing also gives you extra block efficiency

[cedar grove]

Because some penances are a nightmare in randoms, but easy in a group

[inner bay]

block cost and block efficiency the same thing then?

[wide quest]

I believe so, yeah

[inner bay]

thanks

[cedar grove]

Over/Under on one mission being us banishing the daemon we keep killing the eyballs of

cause the Hourglass makes it sound like its all the same daemon

[runic gate]

Wound and sniper damage reduced

[ivory marsh]

hm ok

yeah makes sense

[cerulean topaz]

yall think full auto lasgun or flame thrower staff is best for the kinetic flayer feat

[brave plume]

Why are people saying not to use the bottom first talent with force sword?

[brave vale]

d

[young frigate]

B

[brave plume]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cant-breathe-in-this-thing-dark-helmet-spaceballs-hard-to-breathe-suffocating-gif-24854407

That was supposed to reply to the big helmet pic lol

[distant hearth]

Thoughts on my psyker?

[brave vale]

lmfaoo is this as intended?

[brave plume]

No, it’s Ogryn helmet

[brave vale]

lmfaoooo

the irony of it being a beta item

and being bugged

[long wharf]

now nobody can go over your helmet

[brave plume]

Mine fits normally, just some people are bugged for some reason

Not using it though

I don’t really like the helmets

[steel vortex]

meet sussus amogus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMJ0osZsfZM

[plush wave]

yo what, those some premium tatoos?

[steel vortex]

i think theyre Vt2 vet tatoos

[hybrid thicket]

after 5 days, pick n mix is done

[long wharf]

I hate trying

I hate that stupid penance

[hybrid thicket]

get in an lfg, help ogryns do penances then get em to help you. makes it super easy

[candid temple]

just wait a week and hope the next psyker paid2notpenance costume is good.

or if you like the current ones buy those

don't need to do penance if you don't want or 'want' the cosmetics 🧠

[long wharf]

I want all the penances for Psyker done

[hybrid thicket]

the t3 helm is sick af tho

[candid temple]

but you can buy a similar one in shop tho?

[hybrid thicket]

it doesnt have the glasses or red stripe

[candid temple]

Well, if you're into that, you're into that

[formal osprey]

Anyone have a link to that site with all the weapons and curio builds blessings and perks?

[steel vortex]

i really need an option to take my characters shirt off

beacause those tatoos are RAD

[wide quest]

I want to show my magnificent chest hair

[candid temple]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/

[wide quest]

It would make my fit even better tbh

[formal osprey]

Thank you

[wide quest]

Right now the yellow prison garb is the best for my fit

[candid temple]

yes, all those tattoos

and you don't see most of them

[wide quest]

I think eventually we will

Eventually

[candid temple]

really don't understand why fatshark doesn't do more granual outfitting.
let me mix and match all clothing and bits and such

[cedar grove]

Cause 2nd talent is better

Any kills with your staves or special fire on the force sword, all count as "warp attacks"

And melee kills all give toughness anyway, so it basically just makes all your attacks give toughness

[formal osprey]

Ive been having alot of success with a different approach. lemme link

[cedar grove]

Only problem with 1st talent is warp charges aren't "reliable" since you aren't really BBing constantly. Otherwise you're just relying on the 4% proc to get them

[formal osprey]

I spend the vast majority of the mission with full stacks and when the big guys pop up the 25% faster brain burst lets my use it 5 times in the 10 seconds its up

[formal osprey]

the 10% on attack brain burst gives me a charge every 15 seconds

[bold maple]

same thing for me, except I run ascendant blaze

[formal osprey]

I wanted to like ascending blaze so much but I took it into the psykanium and used it a few times and then I had to think to myself, wouldnt I rather have those 4 stacks still for the 33% reduced ranged damage the 24% reduced peril and the 15% flat damage?

[cursive tartan]

legit when do you unlock the void staff?? im level 25 and havent seen the popup for it yet

[bold maple]

you get those 4 stack back pretty much instantly

in a real fight

[formal osprey]

Ideally, unless someone else does all the kills which happened alot to me. The soulblaze just seemed to weaken everything so everyone else could kill them rather than procing itself.

[lethal plover]

Wait for shop

[bold maple]

exactly

[lethal plover]

You are high level enough

[ivory patrol]

ascendant blaze is fun if you're running a soulblaze build

[bold maple]

it soften mobs up so your team can wipe them and the 4% passive proc for you

• the kinetic flayer

[cursive tartan]

i hate this rng system

[bold maple]

you basically get 4 stack back

[ivory patrol]

so you need to be using a purge staff & kinetic overload at least

[bold maple]

in every circumstances you get stack back if it's a sizeable horde or ranged enemy squad

[raw oriole]

Once level 30, what kind of numbers am I looking for on weapons and curios? Like what are the highest possible stats by rarity?

[ivory patrol]

I ran it for a while and had no problems getting my stacks back

[formal osprey]

They are going to wipe them anyway IMO, speccing for wave clearing seems redundant as seeing I can just pull out my sword and clear limitless amounts of peons

[formal osprey]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[bold maple]

that's up to you, I just value blaze aoe damage to make sure horde fuckin dies so special dont rape us on heresy

when we're busy dealing with horde

[formal osprey]

Thats fair.

[bold maple]

90% of the time most death on heresy happens when teams are too busy with horde to deal with specials

[proven aspen]

how do i get may staff as a psyker

my

[bold maple]

then they die, blaze helps w that

[formal osprey]

Want to see my horde clearing weapon?

[candid temple]

you level up

[formal osprey]

She clears hordes 😛

[proven aspen]

o

[candid temple]

and at level 5, you maybe get a trauma in store

[formal osprey]

She cleaves so fucking hard its stupid

[bold maple]

claw is bit too slow and useless vs elite imo

mk5 or force sword all the way

[formal osprey]

I dont use it for elites

Its just for wave clearing

[raw oriole]

tyty, this doesn't give me rating tho, like the main number, not the perks and blessings numbers

[formal osprey]

You are talking like the grey item rating?

[raw oriole]

I suppose, yes. I think so.

[formal osprey]

Highest ive seen is 380ish, has anyone seen higher?

[raw oriole]

I think I saw 380 stated?

yeh

[formal osprey]

Ive got 5 weapons between 370 and 380, I havent seen higher

[raw oriole]

so no matter the rarity, you wanna look for weapons where the rating in the "modifiers" section is 380.

well, close to that, that's BIS rating

[formal osprey]

Thats what ive been doing, but you also have to make sure those points are distributed how you want them

[raw oriole]

yeah

gotcha tyty

[formal osprey]

but yeah, its pretty hard to go wrong when you have so many points being thrown into the base stats

[brave vale]

So Im supposed to buy high level item stuff to raise the ceiling of my shop

When does it cap

and when do i know it's capped

[steel vortex]

for some reeason I am ungodly good at dodging as psyker

[candid temple]

force sword?

[hybrid thicket]

i like ur name

[mint burrow]

Hey all, so for those who have completed pick and mix, are there certain maps/tips that would be useful? Thanks

[night marten]

go into games with bots (start as fast as possible) so you're not competing with team mates who are also just trying to play the game correctly (killing the people you need to kill). generally the opening pack will have a good number of elites. use surge or purge to soften elites up a bit, start with a regular BB before hitting your ult (with third 30 feat active) to pop off the last 4. * also, if the first pack doesn't do it, it's probably faster to just restart and try again than continue running through the mission

[ornate hamlet]

man psyker needs those unadded weapons or a fucking buff

i wished they made brain burst worth it

like make it so you can do it more

maybe faster

and if not then atleast more fucking damage please

[ornate hamlet]

same here

[cursive tartan]

isnt there a 30 🦶 that lets you BB faster

[plush wave]

what unadded weapons?

[ornate hamlet]

yeah i use that

[mint burrow]

For 10s

[ornate hamlet]

they showed a two hander in the trailer

for the psyker class

[cursive tartan]

nah gotta wait for the DLC for that

[gaunt lotus]

It felt great in the closed network test but they like halved the dmg

[plush wave]

so... just one force sword varient?

[gaunt lotus]

yup

[ornate hamlet]

yup

i fucking want it

[gaunt lotus]

God yeah any other force weapons

[urban dove]

Ayo does Anyone have the Crucis "Dominus" Psykana Hood and can post it i wanna see it in game not in shop before i spend 132k

[cursive tartan]

i feel like the only psyker using the combat axe

[plush wave]

i mean, we got an actual beta for this game though, they gave us everything in the beta that was ready with the exception of premium store

[ornate hamlet]

im a gun psyker

[plush wave]

if anyone needs new weapons it is ogryn

dude has like 5 weapons total

[cursive tartan]

yeah ogryn was my first class and it feels like it has half the weapons as everyone else

[plush wave]

main issue is he cant jut get given the universal weapons from the other classes

because even just giving him the revolver they need to make a new model that fits in his hand

[worthy wasp]

Tbqh if BB were fast and strong itd be op

Its gotta be one or the other tho

And I prefer fast

Right now it def not fast

[gaunt lotus]

Besides boss dmg bolter does what BB does in 1-3 shots

[worthy wasp]

And not quite strong enough

[gaunt lotus]

Yeah I'd like faster

[boreal wave]

Faster you can at least maybe contribute to an engagement without just staff spamming

[worthy wasp]

The thing is if it were fast and strong you could just run 4 psykers and dumpster everything w/o even needing LoS

[gaunt lotus]

God or picking purgatus and having to peak 20 guardsmen and BB them

[boreal wave]

Would be nice if it prioritized elites. I run with a group that doesn't always have a vet and it's a pain in the ass to try and single out a sniper just to get some other douche that stepped in front of it

[gaunt lotus]

Yeah and get mulched when one of you gets downed bc you don't have enough CC.

[boreal wave]

Don't worry guys, I locked the sniper.

Oh oops I guess it decided to grab the poxwalker instead

[lethal plover]

Ok flame staff is now my main

So clutch

[gaunt lotus]

Someone mentioned gun psyker and that's hella fun with kinetic flayer

Surge spam or flame staff is my fav.

[lethal plover]

Nah. There is a YouTube guide for that but the build is gimped by the cooldown.

[gaunt lotus]

Only downside to flame is it's rough dealing with ranged enemies bc the primary fire sucks a**

[boreal wave]

Yeah I keep wanting to try purge again. Void just strikes me as trying to do things other classes do better.

[gaunt lotus]

yeah even 10 seconds would feel fine but 15 is... long.

[rugged snow]

anyone game to help me get ‘Going Out With A Bang’?

[gaunt lotus]

The fact that void does max dmg vs 2nd+ plus targets holds it back IMO

[lethal plover]

I need a force sword with deflector. Darn

[steel vortex]

Also remember that your F ability also vents 50% of your peril

[gaunt lotus]

At least with fireball I think sienna could aim for feet for max dmg

or headshots

[near wyvern]

The highest base stats on a weapon seem to be 400 since it seems weapon stats don't go over 80%

Never seen a roll of 400 but anything around 370-380 is a pretty rare one.

[boreal wave]

Would be nice if the F ability had a little more push. I just use it as an eject button when my psyker starts having a stroke.

[near wyvern]

The primary fire has better stagger than the secondary fire

So left click for stagger, right click for damage and BB if you can't reach.

[junior anvil]

Is there somewhere that shows screenshots of all the psyker cosmetics?

[full atlas]

https://gyazo.com/1661e54ef259460be28fab919429999f
https://gyazo.com/502fecef1624e75c2e9813877d2061ee
https://gyazo.com/307739221c8f0fe56072977e03df0308
what y'all think about these?

[cobalt tartan]

worth upgrading? is this the sword people like on psyker? i seepeople talk about the axe too

[gaunt lotus]

you still need help?

[rugged snow]

ye

[cobalt tartan]

pretty low base stats all around tbh

[rugged snow]

probably should wait for a higher rarity

[cobalt tartan]

isnt it better to upgrade a lower rarity high base stat item, so the end result is better?

[rugged snow]

i actually don’t know

[junior anvil]

@cobalt tartan that is the case yes

[clear delta]

I can't help right now but if you can get a shield Ogryn to tank a pack of ragers. That's the best way to get it imo. Good luck

[wide quest]

Definitely worth upgrading

[cobalt tartan]

whats the point of the special attack? the stab

im trying to understand why the dueling sword is good

[wide quest]

Don't bother using the special attack, lots of the special attack on most weapons are not worth using

[steel vortex]

So, Amon-Gus is fine for a character name

[wide quest]

The dueling sword has good dodge, fast stamina recovery, decent cleave, and bonkers dmg for the mk v variant heavy attacks

[steel vortex]

but not "Amongus or Among-Us"

[wide quest]

You can basically dance around a horde

[steel vortex]

"Sussy-Baka" is also banned

[cobalt tartan]

sick i will try it out

[steel vortex]

meaning these names are intentionally banned

[cobalt tartan]

do you know why the axe is good?

i think its also the mkv axe right

[wide quest]

Yeah, the battle axe

The normal and heavy attack does what you would expect normally

But the push attack is the main takeaway

You mostly want to spam it against hordes

[ruby sorrel]

This staff gives u like infinite suppression when horde is atacking, am i right?

[wide quest]

Run that with the block with peril feat and you'll be set for life

[warm dagger]

worth the upgrade?

[cobalt tartan]

thanks for the information

[wide quest]

YOu can also run the dueling sword with that feat too since the passive quell speed on it is good

[near wyvern]

Yes. Upgrading gives the weapon perks and traits but has no effect on the base stats.

If you have a weapon with traits you like, store it for now. They will enable extracting traits and swapping in the traits you want on a weapo at some point in the future.

[wide quest]

And passive quelling isn't interrupted by the blocking feat upon gaining more peril from blocking

[cobalt tartan]

ok upgraded

thanks for the tips i will put them to use

and ill keep my out for a good mkv combat axe

[bleak sonnet]

mkv axe >>>>> dueling

mkv axe >>>>> dueling >>>>> mk8 axe >>>>>> force sword >>>>>> other

[wide quest]

Pretty solid perks and blessings I'd say

[sand sentinel]

Seeing a lot of builds not using Quietude, going for Warp Absorbtion instead. What's the reasoning for that? Warp is pretty slow to cast and quelling seems like to provides more Toughness regen in my experience.

[bleak sonnet]

20% to infested is actually really nice on dueling

considering its purpose is horde control

it doesnt do anything else

[cobalt tartan]

dueling sword + shock staff i would assume is good then:?

[bleak sonnet]

nah

people will tell you yes

but nah

[bold maple]

damn when crafting unlock replace those blessing

and you have god tier sword

you want the increased crit chance on repeated hit + more dmg on multi hit

you will crit like a mofo and cleave through waves

[near wyvern]

With warp absorption + psychic communion on higher difficulties if you have a team that stays together you get pretty constant toughness regen.

I also run a purge staff, kinetic Flayer and the 10% chance to gain warp charges on soulblaze kills

It's many little chances to get warp charges which becomes a constant stream. And you can always hide & BB if you need more.

[bleak sonnet]

this

alternatively: get any blue combat axe mkv and you will do better than a godrolled dueling sword

[junior anvil]

Force Sword is that bad??

[bold maple]

ew ax* users

[sand sentinel]

I guess I don't fully understand Warp kills then. Aren't those only from special ability kills or is there a way to get Warp kills without that?

[bleak sonnet]

axe supremacy

[ruby sorrel]

any warp kils, like with staff or charge force sword f.e.. as i understand

[sand sentinel]

oooohhhhh

Ok yeah I definitely didn't understand that correctly. Makes sense.

[summer prairie]

Axe has better horde clear, but both are completely safe, dueling sword has way better mobility and the movement tech. I've been using mkv but the sword is very good too

[dusk pilot]

the force sword is a psykers best defensive weapon

tbh

just needs deflector

[compact cargo]

knife

[near wyvern]

Oh sorry I meant essence harvest

Yeah warp absorption works on lower difficulties with surge, purge and void staves really well.

Basically anything that generates peril will proc warp absorption.

[junior anvil]

I see. I've been using the Force Sword and been pretty happy with it so was surprised it was so low on the list

[bold maple]

cause force sword never fucking show up in shop

it's always some trash axe, dagger and devil claw

[twilit path]

Ok, then it's not just me

[compact cargo]

Just people not knowing how to combo cancel

[bleak sonnet]

force sword is trash ngl

[near wyvern]

I got lucky and got a 330 base stats force sword at 29. Never see one since.

[bleak sonnet]

ive never seen people build worse habits than defection force sword users

some of the worst players ive seen

[dusk pilot]

I've got lucky and I've pretty much rolled every weapon to use in the shop, but yeah, it's a massive shame that it's all up to RNG for equipment

Worst system

[compact cargo]

force sword bad coz player bad, ok

[bold maple]

yeah force sword with deflection create bad habit, but it's cool as fuck to be a jedi

[bleak sonnet]

true

it is cool

[bold maple]

in actuality skilled players are better off with a mk5 sword or axe

[bleak sonnet]

no its bad because the moveset is bad and the damage is bad

[compact cargo]

and useful for res

[fast forum]

Reminds me of Vermintide 1 when I was trying to get teh red axe for elf

[bleak sonnet]

deflector force sword is only for bad teams where u think u'll need to res in gunfire

[compact cargo]

You can sprint or block cancel the stab on the moveset.

[bleak sonnet]

ok

i can also kill everything in 2 swing with axe

:P

[bold maple]

what's force sword base damage and heavy damage again

[bleak sonnet]

like

[compact cargo]

Lol, situations get bad an occasionaly your team will make a mistake where if u can't res anywhere like deflection+deflector psyker can, u will loose 1 person.

[bleak sonnet]

50/90

is what i see

[bold maple]

holy fuck that is trash

[bleak sonnet]

on most

yeah

it is very bad

6 damage to crushers

btw

[bold maple]

50 is literally mk5 dueling sword light

and it swing 50% faster

[bleak sonnet]

yes

[junior anvil]

you can charge up the force sword though

[bleak sonnet]

needs buff

[compact cargo]

U can just do the special and 2 shot crushers

[fast forum]

What does the mk mean?

just a betyter version?

[bold maple]

heavy mk5 dueling is like 180 before headshot modifier

[bleak sonnet]

diff version

my mk5 is 202

71% dmg roll only

[bold maple]

so literally deal x2 the force sword heavy

in half the time

[bleak sonnet]

my combat axe is 202... on a light

[junior anvil]

my current Force Sword is 64/107

[bleak sonnet]

nice

[compact cargo]

With bad cleave fall off in comparison, yes

[bold maple]

brother mk5 has more cleave than angela white's cleavage

[junior anvil]

for elites I just use the special attack and then poof

[compact cargo]

It only damages 3 targets at most

[bold maple]

force sword doesnt cleave all that much more in comparison

[bleak sonnet]

i forgot my job as a psyker is to melee cleave hordes

:P

[bold maple]

I'd rather keep the dps

[worn canopy]

I only run cutlass

Until deflection

[compact cargo]

Rotation is our job, help where team struggling.

[bleak sonnet]

my job is swing axe

budget zealot...

[junior anvil]

But hear me out.... Force Push

[bleak sonnet]

i literally play my psyker like iplay my zealot now

[bold maple]

same

I spent more time on the frontline with the ogryn than at the back with vet

[bleak sonnet]

run around with my axe until i see a crusher then i stun it

for my team

then take my axe back out

[junior anvil]

spooky space wizard man becomes lumberjack, a 40k tale

[bleak sonnet]

sometimes i even use my F key

to take a dog

off teammate

[burnt python]

how important is cleave stat on axe

[bleak sonnet]

not very

[bold maple]

if you see me play you would never think psyker is a squishy class

[bleak sonnet]

max roll is 1.5+

[burnt python]

thats what i figured

[bold maple]

god damn psyker's toughness regen is nuts, way better than zealot and vet

[bleak sonnet]

it really is

[compact cargo]

I spam surge to make the mixed hordes easier, sabre to clear adds and f whenever surge didn't properly target armor

[bleak sonnet]

i think my last run i took 0 dmg

in damn

[burnt python]

trash blessings but good bases

[bleak sonnet]

yeah pretty good

top def better

[burnt python]

yeah

[bleak sonnet]

pen stat pretty huge

[compact cargo]

Bit shame on thrust but it ain't detrimental

[bleak sonnet]

never need it

[compact cargo]

unlike others

[bleak sonnet]

just press block swing

turbo skilled

[worn mica]

what blessings should you be going for on Antax

[royal current]

Randoms make my blood absolutely boil sometimes. Tell them im trying to do a penance and they go "Ok" and proceed to actually just ignore what I said

[bleak sonnet]

there's no good ones really imo

just roll high dmg

blessings underpowered

[junior anvil]

random - can someone share a screenshot of their Malleus Monstronum penance chest piece btw? (hate you can't preview them)

[burnt python]

brutal momentum is probably best

or decimator

[compact cargo]

Don't try to do penances that require teamwork with randoms, it's hard for them to realise they got s medkit already or that someone behind him was grabbed

[bleak sonnet]

@junior anvil

[junior anvil]

awesome, cheers!

[bleak sonnet]

cant wait for this to be added

[proud sierra]

i hate pick n mix. I swear if got 5 within 12 sec.

[sour bison]

is trauma good now?

[compact portal]

Deflector Force sword is so f-ing noice

luv my deflector
luv my mind powers
luv my easy carapace picks
simple as

[dusk pilot]

trauma staff? not in the slightest, it's the staff you use because it's the first one you get

And then you drop it once you get access to literally any other staff

The other staffs do it's job better

Void staff is pretty much just trauma staff 2.0

[compact portal]

trauma staff relies heavy on you having good aim
if you dont then go for something else if you do then great it can be powerful in the right hands

[worthy wasp]

I just found the weirdest damn staff I've ever seen

Max Damage, Crit, and 1% away from max Quell... but Warp/Charge are both doodoo and the power is only in the 320s lol

[karmic ivy]

malleous maelstrom is so tough to get 😦

[worthy wasp]

I think its good?

you dont really need charge on a Surge

[dusk pilot]

Get a team together, doing it in pubs is hard as heck

An ogryn to tank

Then find a daemonhost

[karmic ivy]

havent had much luck, cant find me a shield boy willing to tank a daemon

[snow dust]

How am I suppose to use purgation staff? Is it better to charge, if so how long? Or spam left click? .-.

[dusk pilot]

it's a flame thrower

Charge as needed

[snow dust]

.-.

[dusk pilot]

See a massive horde that keeps coming and a short blast of massive amounts of flames isn't enough and need to charge it? charge it

Not really that complicated of a staff to use

[snow dust]

How's the penetration on left click?

[dusk pilot]

Oh the left click is all but useless, it just pushes/applies soulblaze

But the DoT sucks so

[snow dust]

oh .-.

[dusk pilot]

soulblaze is seriously underpowered tbh, things die much too quickly for a DoT to be of much use

And it really doesn't scratch bosses

[wanton cove]

I feel like ogryns are our besties

[dusk pilot]

Ogryns are everyones besties, but tbh, yeah they are most assuredly ours because we are like wet paper towels, glass cannons.

[safe sun]

It's mostly that it's by far the worst DoT in the game in terms of damage. Like it's almost literally zdps until you get max stacks, but max stacks take far too long to apply with the staff.

[wanton cove]

and atleast they dont threaten us with death occasionally like some other classes xD

[safe sun]

every twink needs a bear 😏

[wanton cove]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-spit-water-spit-water-out-gif-24666940

[compact portal]

I've heard in the table top a psyker unit can spend some extra points to get Ogryn body guards so people get forced to melee that instead of them and they get to use the orgyrn as cover so I'd say so

[teal needle]

If we build for it and remember to block we can stand side by side with our big frendo. Otherwise yeah we disintegrate like paper towels in lava

[worthy wasp]

Glass... cannons?

Lol

[gaunt lotus]

does purgatus count as soulblaze or whatever?

[compact portal]

I do believe

It adds stacks of soulbaze

[worthy wasp]

It does and it doesnt

[safe sun]

It applies soulblaze stacks while also doing it's own damage. Neither itself nor soulblaze does that much damage though

[worthy wasp]

The dot counts for soulblaze, but its the attack that applies soulblaze does not count as soulblaze

[wanton cove]

VERY interesting! Thanks for the info!

[worthy wasp]

The enemy has to die from the dot

[stuck bridge]

hello fellow copers

[compact portal]

hello sibling

[delicate shell]

Stress day 5

[compact portal]

i hope the fourth sienna career gets some of these new psyker features

[delicate shell]

i heard it'll be necromancer

[compact portal]

lmao that would be pretty sick ^

[delicate shell]

yea lol

[compact portal]

i cant love sienna any more she is like that grandmother that slips whiskey into the families eggnog

[mint burrow]

Pick and mix is fucking impossible

[proud sierra]

^ thats what im trying to do

last one i need

[mint burrow]

Same

Then I gotta do missions and heresy missions but that would be it

[errant stream]

I always see people call Psyker a glass cannon, i see where the glass part is coming from but after 120 hours of Psyker i don't understand where the "cannon" part is tbh

[dusk pilot]

I don't know about that, I can output quite a bit of damage with my void staff

[errant stream]

To minions?

Everyone can do that..

[dusk pilot]

Have you never used a void staff and hit armoured targets with it?

[errant stream]

Yes

[dusk pilot]

Weird, in my experience it's done the job

And crumpled them

[errant stream]

Probably we have different standards of glass cannons

[valid marsh]

Yeah Psyker feels a bit underpowered for the guy with magic powers

fun though

I feel like some talents just aren't useful enough to be picked over others

Looking forward to the post launch balance stuff

[errant stream]

Yeah i noticed that, recently i started playing Zealot and wow, all the feats feels good to play and have each of them is tied to a viable playstyle. It is a totally different feeling

[stable peak]

psyker has no role

[errant stream]

And their granades are hella useful as a cc, and you don't have to sacrifice a secondary weapon just to have cc

[dusk pilot]

Yeah I honestly feel as though Psyker needs a complete rebalance because other classes flow

Psyker does not flow

[valid marsh]

The role Psyker has should be the mage/battle control class

his brain burst makes him seem like he's supposed to deal with elites and specials

[dusk pilot]

Which is odd as well because they had a perfectly fine example in the flame mage in Vermintide 2 to copy from

[valid marsh]

but veteran does that a lot better

[errant stream]

I think Psyker should have a more reliable and consistent way to regain toughness, being squishy is fine but having almost no costant regen is not

[valid marsh]

yeah

Look at veteran with superb single target dps and 200 toughness

ah yes 200% damage reduction

[errant stream]

And soulblaze must be totally reworked or huge buffed

[dusk pilot]

I play a lot with my friend, I'm a psyker and they are a veteran and yeah

[valid marsh]

I think a buff is all it needs its just a damage over time effect

[tidal cosmos]

have to say Psyker is the hardest to level up and keep alive during lower levels.

[dusk pilot]

They tank damage and something just looks in my general direction

And I explode

And not in the psyker sense either

[valid marsh]

just in the normal totally hilarious "I'm ded" sense

I'm sure Fatshark is aware of how outclassed Psyker is

[errant stream]

And idk if you guys tried damnation but jesus christ feels wrong playing psyker there, you must become a cc bitch for your team with surge staff or just spam BB because voidstrike and purgatus are not enough to deal with everything but hordes

[dusk pilot]

I have I felt massively outclassed

And essentially my roll was small

[valid marsh]

There also need to be talents to justify using guns

[dusk pilot]

The other classes were pretty much doing everything I was doing better, even cc tbh

[valid marsh]

blending psychic power with gunplay

instead of having them be so separate

[tidal cosmos]

biggest issue I have with psyker is the warp build up is so fast and takes ages to get to reduce, I've found nothing so far that enhances it, and I'm not sure is the warp resistance is working as it should be, I have an item with 40% warp resistance, but it generates warp as fast as my 16% warp resistance item, and decreases at the same rate it feels like

[valid marsh]

there are several shooters which blend magic and gunplay and psyker just gets nothing

[errant stream]

Yup, and i don't understand why the Zealot's flamethrower is so much better than the purgatus, the dmg it does is a lot more

And it also cc horde

Like us

[valid marsh]

obviously its faith in the emperor

makes him kill gooder

[errant stream]

I think they "balanced" too much around the "Psyker has infinite ammo" thought

[dusk pilot]

ye that's my thought too

[valid marsh]

Yeah

[errant stream]

You can have infinite ammo sure but if you don't do dmg is like you have 0 ammo

[bleak sonnet]

all this psyker cope makes me sad

the class is really good:)

prob 2nd best rn

[errant stream]

Why?

[valid marsh]

Psyker should be balanced by all of his effective damage sources taking time to charge

[drowsy cosmos]

im starting the game and want to start as the psyker but have been told its too advanced for a beginner. Is that a fair assessment?

[valid marsh]

If I'm taking so much precious time charging an attack that gets canceled when my toughness gets smacked, it should deal a lot of damage

[valid marsh]

there is nothing advanced about psyker

[errant stream]

Eventually you learn the game, starts with whatever you want

[pine flax]

Do stave kills not count as a warp attack? Im using the warp absorption trait but its not restoring my toughness when I kill with any stave

[drowsy cosmos]

yeah the reviews ive been watching are saying its not the best choice for a first time player

[valid marsh]

you take care of specials so your team doesn't have to worry about them, you let your team deal with what you shouldn't

[drowsy cosmos]

it was either the psyker or the zealot

[valid marsh]

like massive massive hordes

you can provide good cc with all of the staves though

[inland needle]

Psyker is fun but
yeah, not a first-time player thing

Hell, the only character I have experience with from Vermintide is Kruber

[valid marsh]

Maybe I disagree because I have 600 hours in vermintide

[inland needle]

I've played Bardin too, but Kruber is my man

[south monolith]

Staves are only warp attacks

[dusk pilot]

having that one perk that stops hits from breaking charge is a godsent

One of the few useful perks

[valid marsh]

The only character I don't have experience playing in vermintide is Kerillian

Because I hate her a lot

[worn canopy]

Played em all

[stable peak]

force sword with deflecltion and perk that makes block cost peril is the only thing that makes psyker tolerable

force sword shouldnt need a trait

[valid marsh]

I have yet to get that

I kind of agree

blocking with force sword I feel should cost peril by default

since you're putting up a forcefield to block and that inherently uses warp energy

[dusk pilot]

I think personally the trait should just be made a feature

[valid marsh]

yeah

[dusk pilot]

same thing with hits breaking your charge

[valid marsh]

I dunno about that one

fucks with the balance if you do that

[stable peak]

i meant the ranged delfection trait

[pine flax]

it doesnt seem like it applies with the trait there unless its bugged

[valid marsh]

you're supposed to secure your area and then start charging spells

[dusk pilot]

The trait itself is a must have anyway

[valid marsh]

if you're charging your spells while surrounded you're making a bad decision unless its something that doesn't need to charge to be effective

[south monolith]

What staff are you using?

[lethal plover]

my opinion has gone a full 180.
Now I think psyker flame staff is pretty good.

[valid marsh]

like surge staff

[dusk pilot]

At least in my opinion

[dusk pilot]

It's not bad persay, sadly of the times I've used it I was placed in a party of people ALL USING CLOSE RANGE WEAPONS

[valid marsh]

the one thing about surge staff is just how much it stalls enemies

I like flame staff but I wish it killed faster

[lethal plover]

it all depends on luck who you're paired with

[pine flax]

doesnt seem to work with flame or voidstrike staff

[valid marsh]

I see the zealot getting more kills and I just sit there

[lethal plover]

flame staff can stagger a whole horde in a wide cone as you flick

[valid marsh]

waiting for my ascendant blaze

Ascendant blaze feels really really good to get off though

stagger and ignite a whole hallway of dudes

[lethal plover]

yes. ascendant blaze with 6 warp charges is like a big reset. press it and watch everything die

[valid marsh]

feels like I'm playing warframe when I do that

[lethal plover]

I regained 4 warp charges just from ascendant blaze

[pine flax]

the warp absorb trait only responds to head pops

[lethal plover]

also crucially, I thank whoever told me to use the "block with peril" feat
that shit is insane
I can now revive anyone

[south monolith]

It definitely works with voidstrike. Have you searched on the bug forums?

[dusk pilot]

Not sure how it works exactly

But this would presumably be very good on the flame staff

[valid marsh]

Oh yeah definitely

[lethal plover]

suppress only matters for ranged enemies sadly

[valid marsh]

especially since it already has a lot of suppression

takes fire off your team

and puts fire on them

[pine flax]

cant find anything on it

[boreal wave]

Yeah I consider that a big L on my staves unless I'm missing something

[lethal plover]

you wouldn't be able to get close to the ranged enemies for that to matter often

[dusk pilot]

What about this one? :v

[wet gust]

What the hell is a Salvo?

[dusk pilot]

honestly a lot of the perks are a bit vague

[valid marsh]

I think that ones best for voidstrike if its got good warp resist and quell speed

[stable peak]

left click shots

[valid marsh]

lets you spam good especially since voidstrike takes so little peril to shoot

[lethal plover]

good for headshotting trash shooters

even for stopping dogs etc.

[wet gust]

But it is not better to charge the big ball a bit and shoot that instead of a regular left click?

[stable peak]

not against single target

[wet gust]

ahhh

[lethal plover]

they deal roughly the same damage tbh

[dusk pilot]

Yeah single target you might as well just spam at them

[stable peak]

if you just need to kill a single gunner

[south monolith]

I didn't see anything on the forums. What difficulty? Did you try swapping talents?

[wet gust]

Thanks for the tips ❤️

[lethal plover]

though the ball does stagger more. so often use the ball then finish with left click

[pine flax]

yea, brain pop is the only thing that regens toughness for me

[dusk pilot]

ye you can stagger most things with a first right click from a void staff

[south monolith]

But you do have Warp Absorption selected? You are trying this in an actual match correct?

[dusk pilot]

Also is it just me or is it kind of unnecessary to have so many varieties of + damage perks

Like it's a bit silly

[lethal plover]

flame staff + carapace would be nonsense

[south monolith]

You missed damage to horde

[dusk pilot]

That and we don't really have a bestiary

[pine flax]

correct, yes

[lethal plover]

go into meat grinder to discover armor types

for instance, trapper is maniac

[south monolith]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zbxw7n/darktide_breakpoint_tuner_and_enemy_coverage/ I just released this today

Has damage types and breakpoint calculation. Can swap the perks around to see how they affect and overlap across the enemies.

[south monolith]

I wish I could help more, but that is very strange

[limpid hill]

hey there, does anyone know what does the "repress enemies in a 5m radius after killing in close range" mean

i understand how it works, but what does it mean by repress

[south monolith]

Should be suppress, as in suppression

[formal raptor]

whats the best +25 on a weapon for you? I think flack then unarmoured then maniacs is my preference

[limpid hill]

i have the game in spanish

so what does it mean with suppress

like knocked down when you block, a small stun

some kind of damage

[twilit path]

Shoot them

That Suppresses them

[limpid hill]

so basically a stagger then?

[twilit path]

Yes

[formal raptor]

shoot at them they go into cover and run away

[limpid hill]

alr, thanks

[formal raptor]

stagger is hit them and the stagger

suppress is for range

[twilit path]

Ah

But same thing Mechanic wise

[half turtle]

does the purgatus staff dot count as soulblaze

[potent echo]

Yes

[lethal plover]

some of the soulblaze feats do need buff. like the one that stacks 2 upon BB an elite

[bold maple]

or removal

[lethal plover]

seriously, 2 stacks. that only tickles

[bold maple]

god those are trash

[limpid hill]

bb in general needs a buff

[bold maple]

make a new feat that's gun-related instead

[limpid hill]

not damage wise but a rework or something

[twilit path]

Are there specific Curios that would really help Psykers, or just based on preference?

[bold maple]

toughness

[velvet arch]

I like the zealot and the veteran. Help me like the psyker, cause right now I don’t.

[errant stream]

I usually run 2 toughness and 1 wound for heresy+

[dusk pilot]

Toughness, uh, I quite like gunner damage decrease

Because heavy gunners can sometimes chew you up

If you aren't careful

[potent echo]

Worse still it's 2 stacks on brain burst (kill) lmao

[dusk pilot]

Though, it doesn't work with bog standard soldiers with guns sadly

[bold maple]

let me tell you why psyker is the best tank class aside from shield ogryn

[vivid merlin]

if you're going to say "a perk you won't be able to get on your fucking weapon after 2 days of refreshing the shop every hour"

[south monolith]

Extra stam, stam regen, block efficiency. But that is if you are comfortable blocking everything.

[vivid merlin]

maybe don't say anything

[potent echo]

Deflection plus the perilblock is pretty poggers

[covert ermine]

which one i am already finished them all on veteran so now i have no idea

[bold maple]

stfu

toughness regen on warp charge + psychic communion + kinetic flayer feats and toughness curios make you take 0 dmg

fuck deflector

[potent echo]

Esp with force sword unlimited dodge, you just dodge towards the gunners lmao

[twilit path]

You'll just have to guess

[vivid merlin]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

time to whip out notepad yo

[dusk pilot]

at least once crafting EVENTUALLY comes out, we'll be able to pick and choose our perks by melting down weapons and equipping the perks onto weapons we like

[errant stream]

Playing since the start of pre order beta and i still dont have it lmao

[twilit path]

That's what I did for my Vet

[fluid knot]

Hope Psyker pals are havin' a good day 🙏

Stay safe little'uns!

[dusk pilot]

WHEN crafting comes out that is, is another question

:/

[lethal plover]

flayer cooldown is too long tbh

[potent echo]

I think its still worse than base kit zealot if only considering tankiness

[twilit path]

This decent?

[hot ice]

pushing a pox burster away with the surge staff from blowing up in the middle of your team feels so clutch kek

[bold maple]

knowing fatshark it'll be when the sun set on the east

[lethal plover]

damage roll is eh

[potent echo]

Take it for deflector, you can break it down and out it on another weapon (in the future)

[dusk pilot]

keep it around for when crafting comes out

for the deflector perk

But look for a better one with more damage (max 80%)

[dusky kettle]

Force sword push doesnt cost perils any more right? Trying to get 'going out with a bang', but seems more of a pain than in the beta to do it now

[dusk pilot]

ye doesn't cost peril anymore

[bold maple]

god force sword's damage hurts my eyes

light/heavy attack is worse than a toothpick

[valid marsh]

I'm not sure damage is all too necessary on force sword

since the meat of it is the force infusion thingy

[vivid merlin]

the push doesn't but the push attack does

[faint sigil]

if you need damage press the button

[dusk pilot]

You'd think but even with it infused with warp power, it'll do more damage with it

Without the extra damage it might not kill, with it, it might kill

[bold maple]

force infusion is a panic button when an elite is in kissing distance

[valid marsh]

I suppose

[faint sigil]

charging a heavy attack and hitting weakspot matters for the warp infusion too

[bold maple]

it's not what you go out of your way to use

[faint sigil]

it can do a lot of damage

[lethal plover]

it works like a knife. but you can instakill with specials. heavy + special deals boatloads of damage.

[vivid merlin]

if not for deflection you might as well be using chainsword which is hilariously both better and safer

[potent echo]

I think the warp attack Ignores weakpoints you can hit them anywhere

[vivid merlin]

because it actually causes a stagger on impact after charging

[lethal plover]

force sword also has the force push

[potent echo]

Also they should give you warp charges

[twilit path]

My favorite is to kill the Assassination boss before he gets up one more time using Force Sword.

[dusk pilot]

It'll be interesting to see actually if deflector will be specifically force sword only or if it'll be usable on other melee weapons.

When crafting comes out

[haughty flame]

Is quell speed that big of a deal? meaning does the staff % buff it by a lot or just microseconds?

[faint sigil]

you can hit anywhere but you do more damage in the head

[rotund bough]

Just making sure, psykers get no guns?

[twilit path]

They get guns

[potent echo]

I tested in the meat grinder seems the same anywhere

[vivid merlin]

psykers get a huge array of guns

[lethal plover]

yes guns. but nobody should use it

[faint sigil]

psykers get too many guns

[dusk pilot]

Everyone get's guns

[grim bay]

when do we get a toy 😦

[rotund bough]

As in firearms? I might just play them

[lethal plover]

screw the guns, messing up my store's pool

[dusk pilot]

I mean you can play a firearm psyker but it's not exactly in the spirit of the class

And it's not exactly synergistic

[lethal plover]

not just spirit but stupid.

[bold maple]

that's more of a fatshark fault

[twilit path]

You just be playing a weaker Vet with a Brain Burst

[rotund bough]

That's why I see no psykers with guns

[bold maple]

psyker's power works pretty independent of staff

lore-wise

staff is just there to make sure they dont blow up

[stable peak]

uhh about that

[rotund bough]

It's a conduit

[bold maple]

so they should have been able to bring a gun and still use their power

[hearty dagger]

All i want for christmas is Heresy repair

[dusk pilot]

Perhaps when we get subclasses they'll add in a gun psyker

[wet gust]

What are Warp attacks? Brainburst and what else?

[vivid merlin]

what you are doing is the push attack

[night marten]

normal vs weakpoint force sword special hits

[lethal plover]

that's the push stab
push doesn't cost peril

[vivid merlin]

the push itself is now free

[hearty dagger]

Force Sword special and any damage from the staffs.

[potent echo]

The push itself doesntz the push attack does

[bold maple]

is that with the special infusion?

jesus christ that's bad

[velvet arch]

What is the psyker good at? They feel like a worse zealot and a worse veteran

[bold maple]

mk5 dueling sword hit for 1k2 with regular heavy on a mutant

[lethal plover]

remember that heavy special also deals more damage than light special

[night marten]

light attack version on heresy

[potent echo]

I'll go double check again maybe they changed it

[dusk pilot]

I mean, pretty much

[twilit path]

Heavy Single Target Damage with BB

[night marten]

just to demonstrate a point

[stable peak]

worse ogryn too

[wet gust]

But if I kill with the force sword, do I get a Warp Charge?

[dusky kettle]

Voidstrike staff deletes hordes. Good at picking off snipers

[unkempt stirrup]

what curios are best for a psyker?

[hearty dagger]

No.

[wet gust]

F

[velvet arch]

Boltgun is just better.

[twilit path]

Also Surge Staff for CC

[lethal plover]

+wounds for everyone

[bold maple]

psyker is the only class that has access to the dueling sword so they're the best class, simple as

[twilit path]

Well, Psykers don't have Boltguns.

[radiant wadi]

Surg staff + the level 30 ability to get 10% head pop on flame DoT

[vestal fulcrum]

Providing support, enhancing burst and providing crowd control (either elites with Surge or Hordes and Shooters with Voidstrike staves). Sometimes bursting certain enemies with BB

[lethal plover]

can dueling sword block bullets checkmate atheists

[twilit path]

And sometimes a enemy is too far away forone

[vivid merlin]

launch state brain burst is the ultimate trap

[bold maple]

shut up nerd

[unkempt stirrup]

can you still hold R to quell peril with the dueling sword?

[frank chasm]

Purge staff + tank build with void blaze Lv30 is best

Imo

[vivid merlin]

no but you quell faster with the duelling sword while NOT having to hold R

[bold maple]

that is fact

[frank chasm]

Purge counts towards the Void blaze Warp charge which is bestest

I think you can get 10 stacks of void blaze which melts many things

[lethal plover]

allow me to share a crazy fact I learned today: with the peril blocking feat, psyker is now the best reviver in the game. literally hold block when rezzing

[velvet arch]

Ogryn though

[dusk pilot]

we are like second best behind Ogryn

[vivid merlin]

if that's your use case ogryn shield doesn't block projectiles while rezzing but deflector does

[vocal swift]

So i guess you can't buy an Ogryn

That's new

[radiant wadi]

Lowkey tho Psyker does need a boost to match other classes tho

[vocal swift]

I need a meat shield so I can pop heads more effectively

[radiant wadi]

Either better DoT damage

[coral cave]

i wish 😔

[radiant wadi]

Or less of a glass cannon

[lethal plover]

I literally ran into a horde today and revived an ogryn with perilblock

[vivid merlin]

brain burst needs to do something useful on 4/5

then we stop being the punchline

[safe sun]

CC with lightning staff (you can stop an incoming horde in their tracks by shocking the front row of enemies, plus all elites get stunned as well), and horde damage with projectile staff (shoot a charged shot down a line of enemies and watch them all instantly die).

[dusk pilot]

I'd say brain burst doing an AoE burst at 4 charges would be interesting

[radiant wadi]

As it currently stands Vet and I think Zealot do higher DPS

[vivid merlin]

why is our talent tree still full of brain burst trap buildarounds to apply 2/4 stacks an incredible 3 damage dot

[potent echo]

Brain burst needs to insta kill elites, grant 39 warpcharges, cost 2% peril and stagger in a 20m radius

[dusky kettle]

Even if it stunned/slowed the enemy all the time while bb is charging on it then it would be useful

[twilit path]

Now we're talking

[vivid merlin]

apparently in one of the earlier betas bb used to stagger/stun instantly upon starting cast

[lethal plover]

try flame staff with ascendant blaze. I dismissed it before but now with perilblock and force sword psyker is very well balanced horde clearer + armor killer

[radiant wadi]

Having Vet do more DPS and have more health is like. Ass backwards design

[thick bough]

Is this staff worth it? Seems to be pretty good

[dusk pilot]

supress is for ranged enemies

[safe sun]

I think the devs decided last minute that whatever their original gameplay vision for psyker was, wasn't going to work and we're in the middle of a class rework where half of the stuff is designed to function in a way that doesn't work anymore.

[twilit path]

Looks pretty nice

[dusk pilot]

so essentially useless on the flame staff

[potent echo]

Yes for sure

[dusk pilot]

but the rest is good

[potent echo]

You can suppress melee enemies too

They just crouch in the corner lmao

[vivid merlin]

my eyes have opened to the truth in the warp

[thick bough]

Oh, so it doesnt supress melee ememie at all?

[vivid merlin]

psyker is darktide

unfinished

[potent echo]

Might be bad which means they crouch under your fire

[bold maple]

I wish they make BB instant tbh

peril means we cant even spam it that much anyway

[dusk pilot]

I'm fine with it having a charge time, it just needs to be worth using more in harder content

[radiant wadi]

They made the Psyker a glass Cannon and then took away the cannon part

[dusky kettle]

What irks me is that peril explosion doesnt result in insta-kill. Can't see how they would seriously think such an edge case mechanic would be OP if it deleted everything in 5m. It would make the penance not so frustrating at the very least.

[stable peak]

bb needs something, either faster charge or actually kill things

[coral cave]

atm the surge staff carries psykers

[dusk pilot]

Also it can be clunky switching to brain blast sometimes tbh

[bold maple]

false

[twilit path]

Even with that one Tier 6 Skill?

[bold maple]

every surge simp coming out the wood to praise being cc bot makes me die a little inside

[lethal plover]

that was me 2 days ago. Now I'm flame staff main.

[coral cave]

elaborate

[bold maple]

at least voidstrike has the decency to deal damage

flame is bae

[dusk pilot]

I stan void staff

it's my favourite

[lethal plover]

flame staff staggers a whole horde in a giant cone as you flick your mouse