psyker-class

[sharp oasis]

As you won't be killing stuff

[errant delta]

yes bolter is more fun plus same shot per bb

[worthy wasp]

Damn, I dont know what Blessing to run on my trinkets

[loud violet]

Surge staff with randos is very hit and miss.

[brave token]

ye no damage jsut cc great for dps lovers KAPPA

[loud violet]

I just had a good team that killed stuff I stunned

[errant delta]

I use void right now because of rng

[loud violet]

but sometimes I just go around doing no damage while team ignores me

and I'd rather just set shit on fire

[sharp oasis]

I wouldn't try damn on pubs

[steep topaz]

question about the surge staff, because i don't remember seeing it in shop(albeit that's rng) or in the unlock family weapon type, and i'm Trust rank 20. when do you unlock it? i should also note i got the purgatus staff at about trust rank 15, and i thought that was supposed to be a higher trust rank

[worthy wasp]

In those situations melee shit

[loud violet]

I only play Heresy

so far

[worthy wasp]

I run surge with antax mkv, cc when needed and dunk on shit in melee when not

[brave token]

If i want damage and clear Psyker or Sharpsooter is better?

[random wolf]

Psyker doesn't have to worry about ammo economy

It's something to think about

[loud violet]

We feed into veterans ammo addiction

[sharp oasis]

If you want DMG go sharp for sure. If you want an supporting role. Go psyker... At least for heresy and above

[loud violet]

Open a chest, it's full of ammo

"over here boi"

[random wolf]

You can near-mindlessly just burn everything with a Purgatus staff and not worry about much

Just be sure to swap and BB specialists and armored dudes if your team doesn't have reliable armor penetration.

[static epoch]

also, You can near-mindlessly just stun everything with a Surge staff and not worry about much

BB on heavy armor heads essentially

[random wolf]

Or bombers and dogs

[loud violet]

This is the way.

[static epoch]

Yeah making sure dogs and bombers is controlled

[loud violet]

Snipers & bombers are usually the bane of my teams

[sharp oasis]

How I wish the stun on that staff were better. My fav staff struggles so much on heresy

[loud violet]

I've been doing fine on heresy with it

A lot better than with surge staff

Purgatus staff just seems more selfish

[magic hull]

YOOOO WTF

[random wolf]

I prefer Purgatus because there's no cap on targets hit

[loud violet]

Axe psyker now

[marble aurora]

YO WHAT

[random wolf]

Range is a bit low under 20m but s'fine

[loud violet]

Also purgatus doesn't hard-lock you into anims like zappy staff does

so you have to seriously suck to warp explode

[random wolf]

It all really depends on your team.

[magic hull]

godamn

[random wolf]

As mentioned earlier; Voidstrike for PUGs I don't trust yet

Then I'll move over to something else

[sharp oasis]

Even tho I want to enjoy psyker. Plasma gun ability to just erase something from existence is too much fun

[fallow creek]

Do you find more mats for harder difficulties?

[magic hull]

talking of which, im scared .-.

[sharp oasis]

I think so

[fallow creek]

ty

[random wolf]

Yeah my #1 issue with Psyker is the lack of ranged sheer damage on one target with any of the staves

[hearty dagger]

What do you guys use for staff when it comes to CC? Purgatus, Trauma or Voidstrike?

[random wolf]

Surge or Purgatus

[rapid frigate]

Brain burst should just scale with level

[random wolf]

Voidstrike for kills

[fallow creek]

Me too D:

[sharp oasis]

Surge or purg

[sharp oasis]

Keep us updated for the results

[random wolf]

Surge if your problem is ranged gunners

[hearty dagger]

Oh yeah, Surge exists lol

I forgor since i never use it.

[random wolf]

Purgatus if hordes are washing over you too quickly

[magic hull]

hmnm, not sure if good or not

[loud violet]

That's good

[random wolf]

Pretty good

It charges super fast

[loud violet]

Maybe not "The best"

[sharp oasis]

Honestly? That's fantastic

[magic hull]

LESGOOOOOOOOO

[loud violet]

but considering you could have gotten sprint

[magic hull]

honestly tho i didnt expect emeperor to gift me a 500 melee

[random wolf]

20% damage to carapace enemies made me laugh

[loud violet]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

[random wolf]

You aint doing shit with Purgatus lmao

[magic hull]

sickkk

[sharp oasis]

[loud violet]

all my weapons

[magic hull]

yeah pretty useless

[loud violet]

except my sword

is trash

[random wolf]

I still like Force Sword though

[hearty dagger]

Force Sword is great.

[random wolf]

It feels... right.

[loud violet]

My only half decent weapon

[sharp oasis]

Force sword melts bosses.

[loud violet]

Oh yeah

[hearty dagger]

Ngl, Deflector Force Sword+Kinetic Deflection is hilarious.

[loud violet]

A single charged strike makes the bosses re-shield immediately

[random wolf]

That moment when it's more efficient to use the alt attack on the Force Sword instead of Brain Bursting

And you're up there with the Zealot lmao

[sharp oasis]

Like if you coordinate with a team you can kill a boss like... In 2 to 3 shields

[hearty dagger]

You go from the squish backline ranger to the storm that is not approaching, defending, putting heretics in isolation

[random wolf]

I miss old beta shove

[loud violet]

Give my a sword that can shove like psykinetic wrath

: D

[sharp oasis]

The 10% chance to brain burst on any atack should be a passive and not a feat.

[hearty dagger]

At some point in the closed beta, a Moebian was bayonet charging me out of a door i was next to.

[fallow meadow]

I like FS too. But chainsword do most of its' job without giving peril make me sad.

[hearty dagger]

I pushed him back in there with FS.

Which was hilarious and made me fall in love with it.

[random wolf]

Not the shove though

[hearty dagger]

Force Sword is great mainly because of how good it is for CC with the shove attack.

[loud violet]

Also if we can all reliably get the

[hearty dagger]

Shit can knock a Crusher flat on it's ass.

[loud violet]

deflection feat in the future

🙏

or blessing*

Imagine being able to walk around with shields up np

[clear heath]

I was lucky enough to get deflection blessing on my best force sword
It feels great

[loud violet]

and deflect distance shots

[hearty dagger]

Feats kinda goofy and no deflector but i like the stats on this one

[sharp oasis]

I'm Abit betrayed by the fact that in one of the trailers we see a psyker holding a power sword

[loud violet]

Those

are two goofy blessing

It makes itself weaker as you swing it

Because it removes peril that it scales off

[hearty dagger]

Works good imo bc of my hybrid ass build

Spam staff

Then run in with sword until peril low

Repeat

[loud violet]

Then switch to sword

This is the way

[hearty dagger]

Melee psyker supremacy

[loud violet]

Unless you're in a horde then just get a purge staff with high warp resistance

and you'll have able to sustain for minutes at the time

[hearty dagger]

I prefer Surge tbh.

Way more versatile than any other staff.

Wait no not surge

Voidstrike

[loud violet]

I WANT TO KILL

[fallow meadow]

choopy psyker 💚

[hearty dagger]

Voices in me bread confusing me

[tranquil badge]

This is the way

[loud violet]

CC'ing isnt enough

[magic hull]

yeah just tested it out, its brutally fast what the hell

[loud violet]

They must die

[magic hull]

less than two seconds and its already 80%+ charged

[mellow crescent]

tfw Voidstrike is a better melee weapon vs hordes than your force sword

[sharp oasis]

I hate the fact the the increased force DMG based on paril works on force sword but 10% tough on force kill don't

[cyan echo]

fr

[loud violet]

purge staff is

pretty quick

[cyan echo]

its 10% on warp kill, not force

[loud violet]

Question

OH SHIT

[gray kelp]

i just want a decent voidstrike staff w/8% warp flurry 😦

[loud violet]

Imagine having a force sword

With deflector & quell peril

on hit

[cyan echo]

deflector + slaughterer better

[loud violet]

Yeah but it isnt as funny

[sharp oasis]

All I want is to play like unchained sieena

😔

[fallow meadow]

I was expecting some push effect on the FS special because of the visual effect. I am disappointed

[marble marten]

are mats shared at the end or no?

[loud violet]

When I first saw the

"Blaze force sword"

I thought it'd be able to set enemies on fire

[random wolf]

Yeah I have the same perk on mine

[loud violet]

Why do I not have a flaming sword FS

[random wolf]

I just laugh manically

I even accidentally killed myself once with it

[viscid matrix]

but it can have this, which makes the weapon more useful

[loud violet]

G I V E

Frankly deflector should just be baked into the weapon

imho

[fallow meadow]

I know. I just pick up one yesterday. But not have time to test on it yet.
It works like ogryn's shield, right?

[icy harbor]

hmmm should I?

[fallow meadow]

Also, how is deflector syc with the peril blocking skill.

[sharp oasis]

uhh

[icy harbor]

497 sounds nice

[sharp oasis]

is the first perk the one that gives you the ability to shoot balls while runnin?

[loud violet]

no matter how many blessings it receives

It will always remain german

😔

[sharp oasis]

german engineering

[icy harbor]

yes

[icy harbor]

[sharp oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/girls-and-panzer-tanks-drifting-anime-gif-14426559

[loud violet]

A karking weeb..

[fallow meadow]

that doesn't sound like a useful blessing

[sharp oasis]

im unsure, honestly, if you like the perk, then go for it, im not the biggest fan of it so i wouldn't

[icy harbor]

I just need to be German to attract all the weebs

No offense though, just kidding here

[sharp oasis]

well

germany was weeb

[worthy wasp]

Its weird

I use surge staff but I'm meleeing with Antrax like 90% of the time

The other 10% I'm CCing specials or ogryn

Its weird, I used to run Voidstrike but then I realized... there isnt really a situation it can handle that Antrax MkV cant

[fallow meadow]

Sounds legit to me. As long as melee don't get you kill, you are keeping the dangerous elite in check.

[analog juniper]

what, you can snipe with that axe?

[static epoch]

I use voidstrike because I got tired of the 3 sharpshooters on my team completely ignoring anything that has a gun.

[candid temple]

^

[quartz geyser]

Is this perk fucked? The 2/3 shot one?

[candid temple]

Team with ogryn two vets and me.

Snipers kill the vets.

[near wyvern]

Probably? Go into psyk to test it?

[static epoch]

I am using sustained fire now and have before and honestly can't tell a difference in game.

[candid temple]

So I railgun the snipers across the bridge.

[candid temple]

Test it in psykarium?

[dusk pilot]

To get the max rating spawning should I be purchasing every higher tier weapon that I see in the shop

[candid temple]

Not sure.

[prisma minnow]

can anyone confirm what the peril cost is on the lightning for surge staff? not the actual charge but to cast after charge, looks to be 15%?

[near wyvern]

You should purchase every white that has a shit ton of raw stats and then upgrade them, that will push the total power really high

[jolly wasp]

The staff would probably not have a salvo beyond one shot so it might never trigger.

[near wyvern]

It depends from the warp resistance on the staff

[prisma minnow]

gotcha

[prisma minnow]

thank you

As a psyker I am ashamed to admit I haven't paid attention to the warp resistance stat yet.

[jolly wasp]

It shows you the base values on items now so really just get the highest base value, it makes no difference if its a green blue or orange. Greys will be better when crafting is fully implemented probably.

[prisma minnow]

Did they ever give an idea on timeline for when crafting will be implemented?

[near wyvern]

Yeah but even now it seems that I get some whites which have like 370 raw stats and some greens and blues that are like 380 but the perks and talents are worth 60-80 so upgrading the whites to green or blue gets a lot higher total

[jolly wasp]

idk, i only theorycraft on what is in the game now, not what might be to come

[near wyvern]

Somewhere I saw later down during December but it's FS so take it with a grain of salt

[jolly wasp]

if the blue has 380 base it will reach a higher total than a grey with 370 base. I am not talking about the total, I am talking about the BASE value. This is shown in the item description now.

[near wyvern]

The blues have stats worth around 300-330 currently for me, so no they will not get higher than the whites with 370 raw stats since upgrading adds a perk or a trait which will give it around 20 to 50 power per upgrade

You can upgrade a blue only 2 times, a white can be upgraded 4 times

[jolly wasp]

Bruh

Base = base stats value

if a blue has base of 380 it would have been a 380 grey

hence it will reach a higher tier than a grey of 370...

its very simple

[fallow meadow]

The stat is depend on your trust level, right? So worry nothing about stat until 30, true?

[worthy wasp]

Thats how it was in vt2

[jolly wasp]

Seems that way, but you get lot of coin so you can spend it on small upgrades if you want. Just reserve your weekly currency.

[worthy wasp]

Youd just farm @ 30+ for stuff with power level 300

[drifting cairn]

which feats should I be running on psyker? its my first time leveling one so im asking in advance

[fallow meadow]

Thx, good to know that.

[jolly wasp]

I would say experiment with what you like, lot of changes are coming and best to learn about the class overall.

[orchid dirge]

which one should i go for?

[jolly wasp]

anything t3 or under you dont need to optimize

[meager pulsar]

3,2,1,1,1,3 is my general purpose build

[drifting cairn]

soulblaze is still bad right now, right?

[meager pulsar]

if you dont build for it specifically pretty much and even then its not better than other options

[jolly wasp]

some people say its good but from what I tested in meatgrinder it was trash, at least on T5 it was barely doing anything

it just kills armored enemies quick, and psyker is already decent at that so I saw it as a redundancy

[drifting cairn]

also when do you unlock the purge staff after the changes to level requirements?

cause I really didnt like the trauma staff and surge staff was eh to me

[worthy wasp]

14 or 16

[near wyvern]

The only purpose for soulblaze atm is to have some minor passive warp charge regen with the purgatus staff

The traits where you get aoe blaze on elite brain burst kill or where you apply blaze if you gain a warp charge at max charges are useless piece of garbages

[worthy wasp]

I'm legit playing near full melee Psyker and it sucks cuz none of the level 10 traits synergize at all

[dusk wolf]

Just started pskyer and got to level 10. Recommended levelling build? I'm hiding at the back with a laspistol atm

[dusk pilot]

I legitimately think soulblaze needs a buff or a subclass with new perks to really be at all useful

Otherwise it's situational and not really something I find get's much use

[jolly wasp]

Thank you Captain

[dusk pilot]

Hopefully later down the line when they add in new classes it'll allow for more

[worthy wasp]

My concern is that this will be the closest thing to melee psyker that we will get

Idk if it will be

[hot epoch]

So, Malleus Monstronum, is there any given easy way to get a monstrosity to spawn or a dedicated way to get one?

[dusk pilot]

I doubt it, Verm 2 had a system for the available classes that let you invest in subclasses

There will presumably be a psyker melee subclass

[worthy wasp]

No I get that, but fe w/ Sienna you had Unchained... idk if we will get an equivalent

[loud violet]

I want more spooky warp stuff

[hot epoch]

i think Psykinetic is our middle branch class

a melee or gunplay class might come and then something pure warp focussed?

[dusk pilot]

It was mentioned here, but a psyker buff class would be interesting as well

[worthy wasp]

Idk, the "use peril to block" trait is absolutely insane with Antax MkV, you blow all your stam spamming push attacks... but are still able to block everything but ranged because peril

If not for that youd get run over by berserkers

[static epoch]

force sword and staff, get to know force sword push, charge attack and peril mechanics

[loud violet]

I've seen people pull off wicked stuff with force sword

the kiting & pushing

[dusk pilot]

I'm partial to the duelling saber, if you get good with dodging you can really waltz around enemies

[loud violet]

I play warp to use warp stuff

imeanpsyker

[dusk pilot]

I have a big staff for that

[near wyvern]

Pick gain toughness per warp charge so you can always BB for toughness

Pick the 4% chance to gain warp charges for allies in coherency

For weapons use what you can until you can get your hands on a surge or voidstrike staff, with those you want to use the gain 10% of toughness on warp attack kill or gain toughness when quelling peril depending a bit how fast you kill (what diff you play and how much quelling speed you have on staff)

At 20 pick the quell while moving perk

Don't go purge staff until lvl 30, you can try it out if you want but it really starts to work better once you get to 30

Trauma staff is useless, it's better to use guns than a trauma staff

[devout belfry]

The force sword push having infinite cleave is pretty hard to say no to. Deals with every situation.

[last sleet]

When surge actually kills stuff, and you get the peril reduction from kills, it goes kinda crazy how much you can spam it.

Btw, how does Surge staff weak spot hit work? Can't really aim the surge, can you?

[worthy wasp]

Force Sword is really good

But say is the Antax

[dusk pilot]

I quite like toughness gain via peril reduction tbh

I don't often bb but I can gain peril easily

[candid temple]

I'd wager it only works with left click?

[jolly wasp]

yeah quiet is the best lv 5 perk by a mile

[static epoch]

this is my best antax

not tried it yet 😄

[candid temple]

absorbtion is good with void

[jolly wasp]

the surge damage did get a lot of dmg from the launch patch, its kind of insane that you can one shot a lot of specials on damnation with it

[wet gust]

What is the point on using a Lasgun or other gun when you have a unique staff? I've seen people and buils taking off the staff

[static epoch]

the more armor an enemy has the weaker they are to it, that's why some prefer crits on surge

[devout belfry]

The 1/25 chance to get a bb stack on kill from you or teammates plus the free bb every 15 seconds scales better using the first recovery trait.

[jolly wasp]

but psa if you use surge dont use resist on warp charge, if warp charges drop mid surge you instantly blow up

[candid temple]

No point, besides not wanting to play Veteran instead.

[last sleet]

You can one-shot specials? What?

[dusk pilot]

I prefer the other perks

[candid temple]

BB is ass and force sword is nice, but...

[dusk pilot]

I don't use the bb stack perk either

[static epoch]

surge crits for thousands

[jolly wasp]

surge damage be nutty

[devout belfry]

Just play style preference?

[dusk pilot]

I bb only if I see an elite that needs it or I can't fire my void staff at

[devout belfry]

I don't manually bb ever.

[jolly wasp]

quietitude is easily the best because of how versatile it is

[dusk pilot]

Yeah, peril is literally the main thing you gain

It's clutch if you aren't near your teammates either

[worthy wasp]

You say that, but if you dont use a force weapon you dont generate peril

[dusk pilot]

And your weapons generate it as well

[jolly wasp]

lmfao imagine not using a force weapon on a psyker, you aren't contributing anything to this discussion if you play like a zealot

[devout belfry]

A good reason to take the block generates peril and the free bb perk to get some.

[last sleet]

A few patches ago, staff was kinda meh. Specially since you would explode from using staff at 84%. So using a lasgun with infernus was actually pretty viable and allowed you to deal heavy boss damage.
Now however, staff is SO good, that it makes little sense to do something else.

[worthy wasp]

Ye but even with that trait I hardly generate peril

[analog juniper]

why arent you using force weapons on the psyker?

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV is nuts on psyker

[jolly wasp]

because he has 3 IQ

[dusk pilot]

I'm still more or less a void staff user

Both staffs are great

[worthy wasp]

Hard carrying Damnation you small brain pleb

[jolly wasp]

lmfao please post video

[dusk pilot]

I just prefer the practically infinite range of my void staff

[devout belfry]

Block cost reduction rolling with the block ranged perk is kinda nuts on fs.

[jolly wasp]

hard carrying damnation on a psyker with a gun

[analog juniper]

I've seen a few people talk about that axe but I dont see why I should use axes over anything else, especially on the psyker

[last sleet]

I mean, the job as a surge staff user is to just keep everything stunned forever.

[jolly wasp]

oh the axe is great, but he said he doesnt use force weapons at all...

[dusk pilot]

You can effectively stuff elites with the void staff, you just have to fully charge

It's not a long stun like the surge staff

but it works

[worthy wasp]

Thats... not what I said

[fallow meadow]

Choppy and shooty psyker 💚

[hot epoch]

So, Malleus Monstronum, is there any given easy way to get a monstrosity to spawn or a dedicated way to get one?

[dusk pilot]

not really, though, I do remember a certain map having an early monstrosity spawn

[fallow meadow]

I wish I can speak ork sometimes.

[devout belfry]

No, just play with a premade until you find a daemonhost.

[dusk pilot]

Like

Almost right at the start

[primal aurora]

so far you need Ogryn to aggro daemonhost and tank it

[dusk pilot]

But it's random so

[jolly wasp]

You implied that you don't use a force weapon.... staves are force weapons.

[devout belfry]

But you're speaking it right now!

[last sleet]

Jesus mary and joseph, I don't want to go off force sword but I think that's the highest base damage sword I've found so far.

[jolly wasp]

And if you are a melee psyker, you are just a crappy zealot. You are the one being carried, not doing the carrying... sorry bud

[primal aurora]

I think low visibility maps have daemonhosts

[jolly wasp]

I want to see this T5 hard carry tho, waiting on the video evidence.

[devout belfry]

The FS push has infinite cleave. It's literally sienna dagger but better.

[loud violet]

who

[fallow meadow]

Choopy shooty and dakka is the only words I get familiar with lol.

[devout belfry]

Not to mention you have the best revive capability.

[jolly wasp]

He uses an axe and yes the push is amazing, I use FS too. It's not playing a melee psyker tho.

[jolly wasp]

@worthy wasp

[loud violet]

asked.

[primal aurora]

uh, how?

[loud violet]

[jolly wasp]

[worthy wasp]

Antax MkV has strong af push attack for dealing with mixed hordes, and its light/heavies dunk on elites.

The reason why Antax MkV is a hell of a lot better on Psyker than it is on other careers like Zealot is because the "use peril for blocking" trait. Push attacking, esp spamming it, will consume all your stam... but you will still be able to effectively block when needed (berserkers, fe) due to the trait.

So tl;dr youre basically an unstoppable lawnmower with a CC stick in your backpocket

[devout belfry]

Block ranged, peril before stamina, block cost reduction.

[primal aurora]

you can block while reviving?

[analog juniper]

yes

[devout belfry]

Yes.

[primal aurora]

oh,

[summer prairie]

you always block when reviving

[analog juniper]

not sure if its intended to be a thing though

[devout axle]

It was a thing in Vermintide

[devout belfry]

I'm not sure if they have that on Darktide. I've been blocking before the interact to be sure due to an old V2 habit.

[devout axle]

In fact, its weird you don't autoblock while freeing someone from a trapper, or lifting someone up from a ledge.

[devout belfry]

It would be impossible to revive otherwise lol

[jolly wasp]

Zealot is still better at this, it sounds like you only play Psyker.

[worthy wasp]

Zealot isnt clutch reviving as well as Psyker tho

[devout belfry]

Psyker is the closest thing to handmaiden I've got lol

[icy harbor]

YES YES YES

[worthy wasp]

Need to be good at clutch reviving to hard carry

[icy harbor]

I just got a 377 white in the shop!!!

[devout belfry]

Sick rolls. Hope you get good perks.

[echo parrot]

Nice

[devout belfry]

I pray to the Omnissiah for your success.

[dusty mirage]

I'm convinced force swords don't actually exist, and that chat is just gaslighting us.

[worthy wasp]

Play it how you want to play it, but the Surge + Antax MkV combo is strong

[devout belfry]

I got a perfect roll on stats for my surgery staff yesterday.

[jolly wasp]

Eh, Psyker may clutch revive slightly better but it's not that much of a difference, and Ogryn is probably the best clutch reviver anyways. All classes can clutch revive, this isn't some inherent benefit of being a shitty zealot.

That being said the Axe is very good, probably slightly better than the FS, and melee is always an important aspect of any tide game so you should be using it to deal with hordes etc.

[dusk pilot]

tbf eventually we'll be getting weapon crafting

[icy harbor]

SPEAKING OF A GOOD ROLL

[dusk pilot]

So even if they don't they can eventually get better rolls

[icy harbor]

377 with deflector

[jolly wasp]

but there's no such thing as a "melee psyker", that's just ignoring half your kit

[last sleet]

How are you supposed to do "Pick n' Mix" killing 5 elite/specials with BB in 12s on heresy? Most elites don't even die to a BB,.

[devout belfry]

💦

[worthy wasp]

Right, the thing is with surge staff

[dusk pilot]

I thought it was 3 elites

[jolly wasp]

Surge staff actually pulls great damage now, fully charged will one shot a lot of specials in damnation

[dusk pilot]

OH wait that's a different penance

[devout belfry]

Teammates soften them.

[summer prairie]

I've pick n mix and have never tried to go for it

[dusk pilot]

ye soften them up first and don't kill them

[loud violet]

You have been blessed.

[dusk pilot]

You'll have to work with people to do it

[icy harbor]

and notice the high damage and mobility stat :DDDDDD

[devout belfry]

Use the last level 30 perc. It massively reduces cast time.

[jolly wasp]

I use surge to close in and pull out melee usually, that doesn't make me a melee psyker tho. I am using my full kit..

[worthy wasp]

You blow loads of peril cc locking shit.

So its nice having a weapon that can handle mixed hordes in your backpocket w/o consuming peril.

Force Sword needs peril to deal with armor effectively

IMO

[icy harbor]

also use the perk that lowers the cooldown on elite kill. Endless BB casting

[worthy wasp]

I mispoke then, cuz I play it that way too

[iron flame]

Brainburst damage is reduced by armor right ?

[devout belfry]

It can roll anti armor, you can get stacks of bb, and your coherency bonus let that alt fire reach any breakpoint tbh.

[jolly wasp]

Fair, that seems like the best way to play it in most situations. Then there are the games with 3 shield ogryns and you can just sit back and charge surge all day

[mild lotus]

It goes through armor

[worthy wasp]

Exactly!

[gloomy obsidian]

Good or shit?

[last sleet]

You're not supposed to use your full kit. You're supposed to only use surge staff, and BB snipers across the map.

[prisma minnow]

this is the way

[icy harbor]

not so good, 412 should be a blue

[worthy wasp]

I dropped Quietude tho

[gloomy obsidian]

Fair enough it was a drop from mission

[worthy wasp]

Quietitude is amazing with FS

Because you can just use the special rq and boom you generate toughness

But

[jolly wasp]

I still use FS so I use Quietitude as well but yeah I could see its use diminishing, it also does make you a super tank in ranged fights using staff.

[fallow meadow]

It do different damage on different type of enemy, but armor don't seem to be the cause of it.

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker legit just feels like a Point click adventure xD

[devout belfry]

As psyker it's our job to be the team mom. Keep your teammates alive, keep enemies out of cover, and stun anything that is about to ruin a run.

[mild lotus]

I mean, you can do it too with staves, charge with m2 but do not shoot and then quell

[jolly wasp]

The problem isnt really quiet being that good, I feel like the other perks are just sucky.

[worthy wasp]

Essence Harvest is the only one that works well with Antrax

[mild lotus]

even with bb you can do that

[last sleet]

Quietude is being slept on in general. It's much more reliable than Warp Absorption.

[worthy wasp]

Not when youre being pressure and have to melee

[gloomy obsidian]

What is the minimum Best Rating number for each rarity?

[worthy wasp]

Force Sword can generate hella peril under pressure through pushing/attacking/blocking which makes it great with Quietitude

[mild lotus]

then quietude is still the better one to go because you won't be able to proc any of the other two

[worthy wasp]

Nah

Essence Harvest for melees that arent FS

[devout belfry]

Stats can roll up to 80 percent. Perks can be up to tier 4 (hinted at 5), and most secondary perks cap at 10 or 20 percent.

[worthy wasp]

IMO

And take the traits that generate warp charges passively

[mild lotus]

I don't see what's the difference

[jolly wasp]

FS is going to be most psykers go to I think, because of the utility. Axe you need a specific blessing and build to use, its viable but probably wont be run as often. FS will probably contribute more to the team overall, just due to giving its user more survivability on average.

[worthy wasp]

You arent generating any peril at all with antax mkv

[fallow meadow]

warp charge is not that useful though.

[mild lotus]

30% toughness every 15s, over 5 s isn't great

[summer prairie]

you can just let them block you if you really need to generate peril

err hit your block

[devout belfry]

With surge staff the difference between max charge speed and the lowest is only .2 seconds lol

[worthy wasp]

Better than 0

[mild lotus]

you're not generating with FSword either unless you special the poxwalkers

[worthy wasp]

Wut

[jolly wasp]

yeah you can, but it doesnt contribute to the team as much, FS is generating while CCing

[worthy wasp]

With fs... just special, you dont even have to attack with the special

[summer prairie]

if you are meleeing, you are generally in a safe position anyway

[mild lotus]

why would you do that when you have a staff?

[worthy wasp]

Bruh lmfao

[summer prairie]

and if you are surging, you are generating peril

[mild lotus]

just shoot the baddies

[devout belfry]

I just can't find a use for the dueling swords.

[steady sand]

They shoot back :V

[devout belfry]

And I loved playing saltspyre.

[mild lotus]

the special allows you to have insane mobility

[mild lotus]

tough luck

[devout belfry]

The thrust?

[haughty flame]

Man people are so much more chill in here lmao

[mild lotus]

yes

[devout belfry]

How?

[steady sand]

Mhm

[mild lotus]

run+slide+special

[worthy wasp]

Def agree with this assessment

[devout belfry]

FS is also the rule of cool.

[mild lotus]

FSword is also the most fashion option

[devout belfry]

If they give me a fucking force axe...

[civic raptor]

Show your female psykers, I need ideas for mine. I feel like none of the faces fit the french accent of the Savant

[mild lotus]

my pfp

[fallow meadow]

Psyker fight in their brain, not by word.

[devout belfry]

Every woman picked the same hair lol

The braided ponytail hairline is way too high.

[mild lotus]

not our fault all the haircuts are terrible

[steady sand]

More red hairs ones 😦

[bitter orbit]

And that is why I don't go on general anymore

[civic raptor]

both my female characters are bald lol

[devout belfry]

The npcs have some decent ones that we can't pick. Same with faces lol

[mild lotus]

soon ™️

[haughty flame]

Aye I understand peoples frustrations but I also love the game. I enjoy it all

[devout belfry]

Everyone looks German.

[dusty mirage]

its early, every channel becomes a non context memefest eventually

[fallow meadow]

So where is my psyker meme.

[bitter orbit]

Exactly. The game has a lot of issues, but I've put 90hrs into it, I'd say I got my money's worth out of it

[dusty mirage]

oh, you dont really get relevant memes, just junk

[mild lotus]

Alright, onto the bigger problems. Anyone available to grind the Malleum Monstronum with me? I'll help you back.

[devout belfry]

My main gripe is that there isn't much to do. Not reason to complete every map on damnation, no map secrets, etc.

Just a poorly engineered grind. The gameplay is great but this game is worse than V2 in every way.

[jovial quail]

Sorry for bad quality just rewatched the psykers opening trailer and at the very end he's using the purge staff and then he like cusp his hand and there's an explosion blowing all enemies away. Was this a feature back in the first beta? I don't think there's an exploding barrel in the video there and it probably would've knocked him back some as well

[last sleet]

As psyker you shouldn't ever switch to melee anyway, so secondary is stat-stick more than anything.
You only pull out your sword when something goes wrong seriously wrong.

[primal aurora]

don't have ogryn for that

[devout belfry]

There aren't even any "bosses" like in V2 or a climax.

[jovial quail]

Granted there is the orange explosion so maybe it was a barrel

[steady sand]

I still need to do explosion :S have problem to kill 3 elites in one shoot, people kill them too fast

[haughty flame]

You have the understand and start associating the words "live service " with "minimal viable product" this game will be fantastic, after a few updates/months. but for now all we can do is deal with it. unfortunately.

[worthy wasp]

Fav setups are FS + Void and Antax + Surge.

The diff being Void staff isnt peril hungry and is the best dps staff so the utility/added defense of the deflector fs pairs extremely well with it.

Whereas with Surge, which is uber peril hungry but more supportive in nature, it def feels good to be able to swap to Antax... not consume any peril... and be able to swap to Surge as needed w/ 0% peril

[maiden wolf]

They definitely included some african and asian complexions, I think people are exxaggerating how ugly the faces are, they feel like normal everyday people's faces to me. I think I managed to create a very attractive character.

[haughty flame]

On a different note as this is the psyker channel, what staffs are people using primarily?

[bitter orbit]

Void

[haughty flame]

I'm loving the void staff, the lightning is so fucking fun though

[primal aurora]

it took me two hours to get that one with a premade group

[mild lotus]

no need for an ogryn, only need people that are willing to NOT shot the boss and clear the trash mobs

[candid temple]

there's 1-2 'good looking' female faces.

[devout belfry]

Can you post a large pic?

[pine topaz]

Surge but i think i might go back to lightning

[civic raptor]

Yeah, same, I love the gameplay, but there's really nothing to do once you level up the character. You can't even do the missions for good loot, just camp the store

[gray kelp]

does warp resistance affect peril conversion with kinetic deflection? this seems pretty good if not

[bitter orbit]

Surge is lightning...

[jovial quail]

[worn jewel]

Surge (Lightning) for CC, Voidstrike as a Generalist, Purgatus for fun and fire. Trauma for memes

[pine topaz]

hahahaha, sorry, purge

[cursive tartan]

praise the purg

[fallow meadow]

I will use the sword special when I don't have to CC and there is a heavy near by.

[maiden wolf]

Sure, I'll have to get in-game first, but I'll try to remember to do that.

[civic raptor]

there's exactly one female face that looks kinda attractive. All others look like theyre 50+ years old

[bitter orbit]

I want to love the purge staff soooo bad

[pine topaz]

i got the stagger perk on it

[magic hull]

How does the axe on the right does so much better than the axe on the left??

[maiden wolf]

F to 50+ year old women in the chat

[devout belfry]

They also look like they've broken facial bones.

[mild lotus]

Here's mine

[bitter orbit]

Ohhhhh. Fuck I need it lol

[gloomy obsidian]

What is the minimum Best Rating number for each rarity? (e.x. 360, 400)

[prisma minnow]

Surg. I don't care about being a CC bot, I feel SO damn useful and usually the MVP of my quad most matches. Though I'm still leveling the lower difficulties at the moment.

[pine topaz]

You can hold off an entire horde with it, but you can't cc the heavy things 😦

[worn jewel]

Blessings on right are obviously better

[worthy wasp]

Void and Surge are the best ones. Purg is also usable but you'll lack a long range option outside of BB. Trauma is ass.

For weaps, you're looking at FS (best option)... Antax MkV (amazing as well but you have to build around it)... or Dueling Sword (not as good as the other 2 IMO but some ppl love it. Def viable, excellent mobility)

[devout belfry]

Everyone picked the same face lol

[civic raptor]

yeah, that is the only normal looking face

[civic raptor]

but I already use it for my Zealot, and don't want 2 characters looking the same xd

[maiden wolf]

Lmao, you might be right

[bitter orbit]

I wish it did more damage

[gloomy obsidian]

Don't need to, Charge Blaze Force Sword and auto crit.

[devout belfry]

I also hate how the hoods all make you bald.

[worn jewel]

Because it does make you bald

[maiden wolf]

I've seen somany female psykers with the rawr hair

[mild lotus]

Yes, this is annoying

[mild lotus]

One of the very few decent haircuts

[maiden wolf]

Joke's on you, my character is already bald.

[pine topaz]

@gloomy obsidian the special FS attack u mean?

[fallow meadow]

low diff don't really need much cc since most of them die fast. Just play what you want and may be try out new weapon when you find something new.

[worn jewel]

Hell yeah, rise of the baldies

[devout belfry]

I'm not a lesbian and even I'm attracted to the women in this game. That says something.

[mild lotus]

Girls with scars and terrible burns accross the face.

[devout belfry]

I can't even tell the gender of anyone without a beard in the drop ship.

[inland dagger]

Flame staff never overloads as long as you tap R before the bar runs out
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1033169991144591431/1048615640228958240/Warhammer_40000__Darktide_2022-12-04_01-57-32.mp4

[honest briar]

bald psykers forever

[worn jewel]

You have poor taste? Jk

[haughty flame]

I was using the dualling sword for a while, it feels fantastic and fluid but the force staff has that charged twonk you can cheese big bois with. love it

[honest briar]

baldie baldie

[devout belfry]

The duelling sword leaves me completely helpless against armor.

[pine topaz]

@inland dagger niiiiiice

[mild lotus]

that headgear should NOT make you bald

[honest briar]

I made him bald

[analog juniper]

Is that an imperial urinal on your head?

[worn jewel]

It doesn't

[cursive tartan]

for anyone that doubts the power of the purg
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zb0jpt/fire_staff_best_for_psykers_insane_crowd_control

[haughty flame]

Yeah thats how I feel about the men, my lord the ogrynns 🫦

[worn jewel]

He was bald to begin with

[autumn basalt]

The perks on the right come into effect on more enemy types (basically +20% damage vs common enemies) and the blessings are better over all

[mild lotus]

I said what I said

[honest briar]

Recycling even in 40k

[inland dagger]

vs armour you just back off and use one of the staffs

[fallow meadow]

Bald and mad psyker is what I remember the most. Mostly from the DoW game.

[mild lotus]

or brain burst for that matter

[gloomy obsidian]

YEs

[stoic mural]

Hmm, got some questions for a struggling Psyker. Right now I'm trying to help my team as best I can with both doing crowd control and dealing with enemy elites. However, it feels like a good 70-80% of the time the other classes are just superior at doing both of these. Am I doing something wrong here? lvl 18 at the moment, and I've tried using all 4 staves

[haughty flame]

I want more chad voices from the psyker

[stoic mural]

for dealing with elites, I feel like by the time I am about to BB them the friendly zealot, sharpshooter etc kills them before I can do so

[mild lotus]

You're not doing anything wrong, psyker really isn't that good compared to the other classes

[thorn sphinx]

it's impressive, but that team wouldn't have any problems handling that horde

[haughty flame]

CC crowds, headpop specials. even if the others beat you to it,

[thorn sphinx]

it's not hordes that kill you, its elites and maulers and ragers

[mild lotus]

At best, you're a cc bot that does kinda well against far off, retreating and armoured enemies

[devout belfry]

Sniper that back spawns and fires immediately.

[worn jewel]

On lower levels, things die too fast for you to be useful. On higher difficulties, your teammates will call you god when you stun the 2 hounds and trappers that appeared from behind.

[stoic mural]

except I'm not really contributing at all it feels like when I'm 75% throughh a BB and it dies 😦

[mild lotus]

at worst, your sharpshooter will destroy anything before you can brain burst them

[analog juniper]

Brain burst sucks, don't rely on it, just use it in situations where you cant easily kill the special, like on a hound or sniper or if the special is very far.

[devout belfry]

Pre charge the bb if you have to.

[haughty flame]

My sharpshooters have parkinsons for some reason.

[stoic mural]

@worn jewel I take it then at Heresy things get better for us?

[orchid dirge]

worse

[analog juniper]

far worse

[devout belfry]

Don't try to do what other classes do better.

[worn jewel]

No it doesn't, we are still gimped especially BB. But our CC from surge becomes more desirable

[haughty flame]

Exponentially worse.

[fallow meadow]

If zealot have unlimited grenade, they will be the best cc

[stoic mural]

@analog juniper so gunners and such maybe?

[honest briar]

Bb does shit all above malice

[devout belfry]

Admittedly the sharpshooter and preacher are overtuned atm.

[analog juniper]

sometimes, but mainly trappers, bombers and the big ogryns. Depends on team comp though

[analog juniper]

I disagree, just Psyker is over nerfed, and ogryn needs something

[devout belfry]

Shovel main.

[stoic mural]

Is it just me or does it feel like the targeting for BB is a bit clunky?

[analog juniper]

Power sword is mega OP tho

[orchid dirge]

i feel like ogryn only viable weapon for T4 and T5 is the shield

[stoic mural]

I'll be trying to target an elite in the distance, but it'll target the trash mob next to him instead

[worn jewel]

Tag first.

[analog juniper]

^

[fallow meadow]

BB is also a very good detector

[devout belfry]

The rule of doing what other classes can't.

[stoic mural]

oh so it prioritizes a tagged elite?

good to know

[devout belfry]

Rebind tag to t

[icy harbor]

we are getting there, soon may be my first 500+ weapon ;D

[devout belfry]

Middle mouse is moronic.

[worn jewel]

Yes. But in huge hordes with tons of elites, the targetting can go mad

[stoic mural]

I remapped it to the #5 button on my mouse

[worn jewel]

377 sword. My 357 is jelly

[devout belfry]

That's my alt fire.

[dusty mirage]

you can rebind tag to anything, altfire is what i use

[stoic mural]

@worn jewel I kind of wish it was like the flaming javelins Sienna got in Vermintide

[worn jewel]

Didja get it from the store or from emperor drops?

[icy harbor]

I just picked it up as a white in the store and upgraded

[worn jewel]

Damn store RNG

[worn jewel]

I wish many things were more like Sienna.

[devout belfry]

Almost everything good is made like that. I think their gear rolling system is janky.

[stoic mural]

I'm not sure if it's my imagination either, but it feels like BB doesn't scale well on boss mobs like plague ogryns and monstrosities

I feel like I'm hardly even tickling them most of the time

[icy harbor]

you tell me. I have been waiting 6 shop cycles yesterday for ANY staff. I did not get a single staff in the entire store

[fallow meadow]

If you need a perfect wep, you better buy it at white

[devout axle]

BB doesn't scale .. at all.

[worn jewel]

BB doesn't scale period

[stoic mural]

that's kind of stupid

[prisma lion]

Rate

[stoic mural]

every other classes ability scales with their weapons, not sure why BB doesn't 😦

[haughty flame]

Headpop sound makes me wet af

So satisfying

[stoic mural]

at least I think it does

[devout belfry]

Dumpster. Grims are pointless and the reward is non existent.

[icy harbor]

that is a lot of corruption resistance, I am jealous

[dusty mirage]

I have never seen a force sword, just craft your staff...

[devout axle]

Because Psyker is a poorly designed class that needs a serious look at.

[icy harbor]

what level are you?

[magic hull]

Im ready to roll this bad boy

[worn jewel]

Agree. Grim pickers are basically trolls at this point lol

[dusty mirage]

18

[stoic mural]

so should I just stick with the surge staff for now?

[devout belfry]

Pick them up first and smash em.

[icy harbor]

PLEASE show me how it rolls

[worn jewel]

What is fun for you?

[stoic mural]

I haven't found a decent staff for nearly 6 levels because the shop is flooded with guns 😦

[prisma minnow]

they screwed up designing the class around warp charges and then took a nerf bat to a lot of our ability to get them and then didn't adjust our feats accordingly

[worn jewel]

That would get me kicked lol; unless they dont notice

[devout belfry]

[stoic mural]

@worn jewel right now my stave feels incredibly underwhelming regardless. Void stave deals a lot of damage but feels like it eats a ton of peril to use

[honest briar]

Yeah good luck with the 5 elite kills penance either, sharpshooter melts elites before your bb reaches half way

[magic hull]

😐

[fallow meadow]

All three staff work. The T staff? There is no such thing.

[devout axle]

That's the more in-depth version of what I said, yes.

[prisma lion]

I find force sword/bb/revolver best combo for damnation

[worn jewel]

Don't fully charge it. Also find one with high warp resistance. You won;t be able to optimise since you're only lvl 18.

[icy harbor]

what an awful roll

[stoic mural]

flame stave is great for dealing with hordes, but not being able to deal with long range mobs is kind of rough if my vet doesn't take care of them

[magic hull]

ill keep this one until i can reroll it

[icy harbor]

ye

[stoic mural]

@fallow meadow whatever staff that hurls the explosive ball

[honest briar]

Void

[stoic mural]

gotcha, so maybe half charges?

[fallow meadow]

☝️

[magic hull]

I managed to roll this baby though

[worn jewel]

Yeap. Against hordes you can release immediately.

[ornate hamlet]

do i want quell speed or warp resistance?

[stoic mural]

I like the damage from the void stave, but the crowd control that the flame thrower stave is just amazing. that stagger on demand is really nice

[worn jewel]

What staff?

[ornate hamlet]

For Surge staff

[worn jewel]

Both lol

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-fuck-frustrated-gif-15331740

[ornate hamlet]

thanks

[last sleet]

WAT

[worn jewel]

I consider this the best stats even though its 355; cos charging is useless

[stoic mural]

Psyker just feels....like it doesn't know what it wants to be? Coming from playing a Sharpshooterr to 30 where I was just able to erase elites the difference feels pretty stark

[fallow meadow]

Both are very useful, I will priority on warp resistance

[pine topaz]

@last sleet fk me

[stoic mural]

granted could just be because I'm low level

[stoic mural]

whoa wtf?

[pine topaz]

Is that damnation

[worn jewel]

Heresy? Endless hordes?

Had it happen once

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-thanks-thank-you-so-much-keanu-reeves-gif-21952233

[fallow meadow]

never know they can spawn in the same time.

[pine topaz]

they should make an achievement for that 🙂

[last sleet]

Heresy yes, Don't know

[pine topaz]

wipe ?

[stoic mural]

I'll stick with the shock stave and see how I do.

Surge*

Does BB get better with the quickening feat at lvl 30?

[worn jewel]

Sharpshooter is just all round strong right now. Can feel like a step down.

[hearty dagger]

Sharpshooter outmeleeing a zealot and out elite-killing a psyker

[stoic mural]

I've only been running pugs at Malice, so I don't know how strong SS might be at heresy and higher

[worn jewel]

You can BB more sure, but the dmg is still abit meh beyond malice

[icy harbor]

sharpshooter is simply the strongest class rn by quite a bit which is annoying

[stoic mural]

can it still delete elites at least at higher difficulty?

[worn jewel]

Hehe the ranged sniper class gets the best generalist melee weapon

Especially since, WE were supposed to get powersword

[stoic mural]

I did notice that the power sword is outrageously powerful

[worn jewel]

Never forget ObeseFish's betrayal

[icy harbor]

nope, you need like 2 BB for a normal elite

[stoic mural]

not even the Zealots Evis can match its cleave

@icy harbor yikes, meanwhile if I play well as a vet I can maintain my abilities uptime indefinitely

or darn near it

[worn jewel]

My only hope is when the datamined 2h force sword comes; its a cleave focused weapon

[icy harbor]

the vet is the strongest class (and needs a nerf)

[haughty flame]

Release comes, 2h force sword is single stab only lmao

[fallow creek]

is burst penance malice or heresey?

[wet gust]

No idea on who the guy on the right is (Sennar), but I had the oportunity to make a screenshot

[worn jewel]

Don't drain my last copium tank reserves

[stoic mural]

any idea on what could be done to help the Psyker class?

[fallow meadow]

I have heard that Zealot's 2H chainsword is not good

[haughty flame]

bigger muscles

[wet gust]

It is actually one of the best melees

[icy harbor]

finally switched to english for the game

[devout axle]

I have heard that you are wrong

[stoic mural]

? Evis based on my experience is very good, but perhaps at heresy/damnation it's not as good?

the evis has some incredible power based on my brief runs with it on my Zealot

[worn jewel]

1. Warp charges deplete stack by stack instead of all at once
2. BB should 1-shot snipers, poxburst, trappers, gunners on ANY difficulty
3. Give us a cleave force weapon

[haughty flame]

I'd cry for that first one, seems a no brainer

[civic raptor]

what's the advantage of the force sword? It's attack pattern and damage seems worse than a regular sword

[stoic mural]

good single target damage?

[haughty flame]

Charge it and it cuts through everything like butter

[worn jewel]

Charge it up. Swing and delete the horde in a 180

[noble trellis]

everything looks mediocre compared to bleed combat knife, but eviscerator is by no means bad

[civic raptor]

meant force sword*

[fallow meadow]

Sooo, I got lie on... Damn you Tzeentch.

[haughty flame]

2h chainsword is great, you just need one with a decent cleave stat

[worn jewel]

Also since its charged, it doesnt get stopped by armored units

[stoic mural]

I thought force sword only hits and affects one target when charged?

[worn jewel]

Oh my bad, i thought you meant power sword

[stoic mural]

I know the power sword just cleaves

[worn jewel]

Force sword can deflect bullets if you have the perk

[civic raptor]

but what can it do damage wise

[stoic mural]

wait really? would be funny if it allowed you to jedi reflect them 🙂

[icy harbor]

force sword ability also deletes most specials easily. Regardless of armor

[worn jewel]

It can let you tank almost indefinitely if it has high warp resistance and you take the feat that converts blocking to peril

[haughty flame]

Mine does that, if you stack it with the deflection peril absorption thing you can tank a crazy amount of damage

[civic raptor]

like I said, it seems to be outperformed by the regular 'devi'ls claw' sword in clearing hordes and unarmored elites

[haughty flame]

synergizes really well

[worn jewel]

Its a single target weapon

Charge it up and heavy attack the assassination boss's head

[civic raptor]

ah, so I should use the force sword for elites and get a ranged weapon for hordes?

[stoic mural]

I'll have to keep an eye out for a good force sworrd with those perks. right now I've only been getting guns and regular weapons sadly

[worn jewel]

takes out close to half its health

[haughty flame]

Your staffs are for AOE, you dont want to play psyker and be cleaving stuff, you may as well play preacher or sharpshooter

[worn jewel]

Yes. You can spam push hordes to CC them also, since now it doesnt cost peril

[bleak sonnet]

force sword is so bad man

does no dmg

[stuck basalt]

staff need buff, my aoe never kill ><

[silent niche]

this u?

[fallow meadow]

Use the FORCE!!

[bleak sonnet]

i use axe

mk 5

[worn jewel]

Without charging up, its a butter knife.

[stuck basalt]

force just stab head, easy kill

[bleak sonnet]

yes

use the special

and be open to being hit

that shit sucks in t5

too many enemies

[worn jewel]

That's why I use devil's claw in t4 & 5

[bleak sonnet]

combat axe

mk5

[dusty mirage]

form complete thoughts challenge (impossible)

[mossy sonnet]

greetings siblings

[worn jewel]

Another baldie

the anti-hair revolution has begun

[civic raptor]

does this grant warp charges too?

[worn jewel]

Yes

[primal aurora]

yes

[civic raptor]

nice

[last sleet]

Lol wrong ss

[worn jewel]

I don't bother with BB nowadays unless my vets are blind. Just use that feat and the coherency one; you'll have stacks when it matters.

[last sleet]

We lived, bitch!

[pure rapids]

only if your BB kills

most of the time it'll proc on trash

so you'll get it majority of the time it goes off

[worn jewel]

And sometimes it will pop on a rager and save you some pain. Win Win

[pure rapids]

yes but just trying to emphasize that it's the BB kill that grants the charge

not the feat proccing

[worthy wasp]

I feel like I got the weirdest fkn trait tree

I hear ppl talkin bout their shit

[fallow meadow]

I am curious that if I am doing area damage, will it pior elites?

[worn jewel]

Huh..?

[pure rapids]

the biggest damage will the epicentre of you AoE

[worthy wasp]

121133

[pure rapids]

AoE damage does not prioritize anything other than the ones closest to the epicentre

[worn jewel]

Be specific, what staff

[primal aurora]

You know the usual trope of rpg - warrior starts strong and becomes meh at late levels, wizard starts very weak and ends up super strong. Well, here it is backwards

[worthy wasp]

I dont feel that way about Psyker

[stuck basalt]

[worthy wasp]

Psyker gets some p defining traits at 15/20/25

30 if you use purg staff

[pure rapids]

yes

purg staff feels very nice

[cursive tartan]

has anyone actually SEEN a stat roll higher than 80

[fallow meadow]

I mean the 10% BB skill. Let say I am using Trauma so no time lag on different target. Do it prioritize on any?

[vagrant cedar]

you know what feels nicer? error 4008

[worn jewel]

Someone mentioned a modifier roll of 380. Im still searching for screenshots

[pure rapids]

oh it's random

that's why I said it'll most often proc on a trash mob

[worthy wasp]

The 10% BB skill is amazing if using surge or purg staffs

[pure rapids]

unless you're single targeting

[worn jewel]

Its random

Does not pioritize elites

It still imo the best feat on that tier

[left turtle]

I don't play psyker but i have a friend who mains it. He's the backbone of our team

I keep everyone safe as a fat wall of meat. And he's popping every single ragers head, ogryns are exploding. Snipers are a joke

[worn jewel]

Obligatory "on what difficulty?"

[left turtle]

4

[worn jewel]

Spamming BB on 4s eh? Bold choice

[pure rapids]

eh BB's still serviceable on 4

especially with a wall of meat

[worn jewel]

True.

[left turtle]

Well I'm not saying specifically BB, I'm saying he's performing exceptionally well as a psyker in our team

[worn jewel]

But replace that psyker with a vet and you see where im going

[fallow meadow]

When behind an ogryn, psyker do a better job. SS got their line bock often

[jovial frigate]

Yea or nay

[pure rapids]

yea

[left turtle]

In reference to thinking psykers aren't strong later down the road

[worn jewel]

They are strong for CC

[pure rapids]

that Transfer Peril is very good

[worn jewel]

thats for sure

[fallow meadow]

Most warp attack will pass through teammate,

[worn jewel]

Nay

[worn jewel]

Too much stats dumped into charge rate

[left turtle]

Yeah hes never had a problem using things through me and i play ogryn

[weak aspen]

does the purgatus staff fire debuff count as soulblaze?

[worn jewel]

Yes

[jovial frigate]

was p much thinking the same + idk how good flak dam is on void

[tacit fractal]

how tf do you dodge a pox hound when you literally dodged it

[pure rapids]

you blame the lag

server diff

[tacit fractal]

I guess i'm in brazilian servers when i'm european

[worn jewel]

Thats the best argument you can make for a psyker at higher difficulties. We CC and we dont need LOS

[pure rapids]

the amount of times I've done the same dodge, it always works 50% of the time

all the time

[bronze sierra]

not to mention we invalidate enemy cover @worn jewel

[magic hull]

okay purgatory staff is meant for heresy fr

somehow it performs better at harder difficulties

[bronze sierra]

or more specifically we CAN

[worn jewel]

Because you're more overwhelmed in higher difficulties. Purgatus is premium crowd cooker.

[pure rapids]

the left click of purgatory staff provides decent CC

way better than surge's CC imo

[left turtle]

The fact the psyker can eliminate trappers/snipers/bombers/gunners all while everyone else is tied down with the horde has been the saving grace of so many runs

[bronze sierra]

^

[pure rapids]

generates little peril as well

[left turtle]

Because of this, i dedicate to keeping people off my psykers as much as possible. I've become a personal psykers bodyguard

[bronze sierra]

and we also dont need ammo

[left turtle]

As such, I'd like to request extra rations, sah.

[stuck basalt]

psyker more like sniper xD

[worn jewel]

Surge hardlocks elites better than Purg and has better range; you also keep the bolt. Surge is basically for PUGs and groups you can't trust.

Purgatus leaves you wholly vulnerable to range on higher difficulties. But with a good group, you become the devil himself.

[bronze sierra]

thus thats A. 1 less person that is draining ammo from the team, and B. it keeps us more consistent

[hearty dagger]

Boys, i am so close.

[left turtle]

What staff is the purg

[worn jewel]

Flamethrower staff

[pure rapids]

fire

[icy harbor]

close to what?

[fallow meadow]

surge's cc is better, but it have limited target. I guess on the diff 5, the purge will do a better job?

[left turtle]

That's what y'all consider the best one? (I don't play psykers so I'm just passing info along to my buddy)

[hearty dagger]

The penances

[worn jewel]

If you can trust your team to keep you safe from the ranged peeps

[icy harbor]

yeah which one

[pure rapids]

best one rn are purg and surge

[icy harbor]

or you mean all?

[radiant jolt]

The consensus seems to be that all of them except for the Trauma staff are the best one

[hearty dagger]

As in all of them

[left turtle]

Surge is the sith lord, yea?

[icy harbor]

oh damn

[pure rapids]

yes

[hearty dagger]

Voidstrike staff is the best staff.

I am 100% biased and i do not care.

[icy harbor]

Surge is really great but needs a team that can and will target elites

[magic hull]

purga because it looks cool 😎

[icy harbor]

fire is great for the hordes of small enemies but lacks in staggering and range

[fallow meadow]

purg, surge and voild all do a good job. Forgot the one start with T.

[left turtle]

As long as they aren't ranged elites, i focus completey on CC as an ogryn.

[stoic mural]

never liked trauma staff

[haughty flame]

I appreciate big stronk bois that watch out for me

[magic hull]

they should buff trauma for bigger radius or knock over effect

[icy harbor]

trauma is really bad

[abstract marsh]

What staff should I be on the lookout for with a premade 4?

[fallow meadow]

Also a longer target range

[celest hedge]

Trauma has the same problem to me that nades as veteran have, the fall off and general range of the explosion seems small so you kill less than you’d think

[pure rapids]

depends on what the others are playing

[wooden silo]

I had some success with the purge staff on on malice at least but at times i feel like i am just riding the floor stunning things that could likely be killed on this difficulty. Also the whole BB thing is just so hard to target with when it comes to say snipers of in the distance.

[abstract marsh]

Usually 2 vets 1 ogryn and obviously myself as psyker

[magic hull]

BB has been weird when it comes to targetting elite nowadays

[worn jewel]

I love purgatus. I don't love relying on my PUG teammates to kill things that I cant light up in blue lightning.

[pure rapids]

either purg staff or surge staff

[celest hedge]

Though since I’m level 20 now, maybe some of the effects like the level 10 warp weapon feat and communion giving lots of charges might help

[abstract marsh]

Tyty

[fallow meadow]

agree

[pure rapids]

purg staff for horde clear, surge staff if you find that your team is lacking CC

[versed spade]

I finally did Going Out With a Bang

[wooden silo]

Right i will point out though perhaps i could be playing "better" and it is just about practicing.

[worn jewel]

Or situational awareness. You cannot believe the amount of veterans who will continues shooting even when a rager has startd wailing on them.

[pure rapids]

whelp that cannot be helped

if they don't have that or don't learn it

no amount of usefulness your teammates bring can help with that

[wooden silo]

It just feels like i have to many things on my plate as a psyker at times, stun things up close or at mid distance. Don't explode by warp, bb specials and so on. Where as when i play as the sharpshooter i feel like i know what to prioritize.

[fallow meadow]

If you are using surge, don't worry much on full charging. Shoot when they are moving.

[icy harbor]

anyone know what this is?

[uncut turret]

Do you still get warp charges if the target dies from some other thing while you're charging up brainburst on target?

[icy harbor]

sometimes

[celest hedge]

That’s crafting

[worn jewel]

I assume it will work when the shrine fully unlocks all it features

[icy harbor]

ok

[pure rapids]

no

you only get the charge if your BB kills

[celest hedge]

I think you unlock crafting pretty early on

[wooden silo]

Oh god the warp charges. Like i am so annoyed bb to keep those up is just i don't know

[worn jewel]

You get a charge if it dies while you charged BB half way

[bronze sierra]

so bois

[uncut turret]

I've never had this happen myself, so I'm trying to replicate it.
@icy harbor why is it sometimes?

[pure rapids]

wait it works like that?

[bronze sierra]

i keepgettign reliquaries that roll max HP

[worn jewel]

Yes

[celest hedge]

You’re not suppose to but I feel like they shadow changed that recently, unless I just got lucky with communion every time it happened

[haughty flame]

Store reset in 1 minute, you all excited to get your new braced autoguns?

[wooden silo]

I get that skilled players can do this, but am i wrong feeling like the skill ceiling is just so much higher playing a psyker?

[worn jewel]

You will know it because it still makes the zwoop sound

[uncut turret]

I'm thinking that it's possible a network/lag issue, and that the game isn't sure if you actually killed it, but it triggerred the brain burst and checks to see target died so you get the charge.

[pure rapids]

hmmm didn't felt like it did in the beta

[radiant jolt]

It happens pretty regularly

[pure rapids]

then again it's no longer beta

[icy harbor]

idk, just happens sometimes, that the animation goes trough and you get the stack

[celest hedge]

Once you get some experience with it, I feel like it’s easy to not over charge as psyker, it’s just a lot more to juggle with dealing with peril but I never find it a problem

[haughty flame]

You're welcome mate, had some words with the top lads that more autoguns are needed

[worn jewel]

I don;t know which beta you played in first but this was how it worked since the pre-order beta

[pure rapids]

both betas

[stoic mural]

how does a lvl 30 psyker not know that an assassination missions boss has a weakness to melee?

[pure rapids]

but I didn't notice my charges and how I got them

[stoic mural]

is there a penance that requires them to stay at range?

[wet gust]

WHich is better for Psyker? Power Sword or Duelling Sword? I'm new to the class and trying to find out

[worn jewel]

No

[bronze sierra]

could we not have a BB charged then have someone else kill it for us before we proc and itll give us a charge?

[uncut turret]

Same with you, it felt like it hasn't happened to me at all yet, so I'm confused by this information. The only thing that triggers is the 4% for me and if I remove it, then it doesn't give me a warp charge @.@

[pure rapids]

I think it's just the way you approach playing the class

[worn jewel]

There are many level 30s that don't understand simple concepts. Like the guy who jumped off the railings at the start of the Torrent and lost 90% of his health

[orchid dirge]

worth pumping this up to legendary?

[stoic mural]

@worn jewel yikes

[pure rapids]

tbh level is not a clear indication of how well that person plays

[summer prairie]

maybe but it is good as it is

[celest hedge]

Dueling sword I think is better for general place since it’s like the verm 2 rapier with the dodges and swings, force sword I think excels more in single target damage with the special power, and acts as a more normal melee weapon

[pure rapids]

it's just an indication that they got to the max level lol

[stoic mural]

fair point

[icy harbor]

372, when 380 is the max., so why not

[summer prairie]

most of the blessings it can get aren't that helpful

[native thorn]

Gotta say Ze german psyker claiming to be a loyal servant of the throne then shittalking the emperor all mission is hilarious

[fast scarab]

this pick n' mix shit sucks ass

[worn jewel]

Yeah this is deffo worth it

[stoic mural]

lvl 30 could just mean they grinded long enough to get there

[pure rapids]

yeap

[summer prairie]

maybe upgrade to blue and stop there

[haughty flame]

I hope they let us overlevel like in VT2, would love to be like, level 600 or some shit just for virgining psyker

[celest hedge]

If you consider a devil claw sword as the baseline for how all weapons handle, the force sword I think is closer to that in feel

[vivid merlin]

the german psyker IS a loyal servant of the throne

because he doesn't have any better option

[native thorn]

lmao fair

[bronze sierra]

you can be loyal, and still shittalk

[versed spade]

In this amount of time you can already learn how to play tbh

[radiant jolt]

It's ether be loyal or be kindling for the fire

[bronze sierra]

like i shit talk my friends to hell and back, but id go to bat for em

[pure rapids]

not really no

if they spent that entire time not learning

[stoic mural]

also true. I had a lvl 10 that seemed to be a much better player than this lvl 27 that kept running off on their own and dying

[pure rapids]

or if they spent that entire time getting carried

[bronze sierra]

its just an indication of them being stubborn

[worn jewel]

Could be an alt of a 30

[stoic mural]

that too

[pure rapids]

time spent =/= skills learned

[radiant jolt]

I think the easiest way to identify alts is the profile image border

[worn jewel]

Im too lazy to level another character until they make curios account wide

[radiant jolt]

since you unlock those for everyone

[stoic mural]

hmmm

[versed spade]

Well, then I was lucky and I did not meet bad players with level 30

[pure rapids]

well don't jinx it now

[worn jewel]

Come to the oceanic servers mate; you'll experience wonders beyond imagining

[formal osprey]

ok

[stoic mural]

lol

[formal osprey]

Heres the question

[wooden silo]

Under the seeeaaaa

[native thorn]

You can hit 30 without learning to dodge well

[wooden silo]

Technically correct.

[pure rapids]

you can hit 30 without learning anything

[formal osprey]

Rank 5 feats, if you are hit while the 30% toughness over 5 seconds is going does it stop it?

[wooden silo]

Easily, i can do this.

[primal aurora]

I certainly did

[proud hare]

rate my new staff

[versed spade]

I was more amused by the person who at level 14 went to heresy and said in the chat - yes, it's okay, I have no problems with heresy.

[celest hedge]

It shouldn’t, no

[worn jewel]

No

[formal osprey]

Second question, can you proc two of them

[versed spade]

And died in 5 minutes

[formal osprey]

2/10 im not even kidding.

[worn jewel]

Ah shit, that I don't know

[celest hedge]

No, unlike the similar feat for veteran, it should just reset duration

[fallow meadow]

The blessing is useless.

[celest hedge]

But it’s unlike for that to be a problem without communion