purg great for hordes
#psyker-class
carmine raptor
They can clear hard targets and I can delete hordes or CC and entire room
shut thorn
So the extra hordeclear is pointless
shut thorn
purg great for hordes
Vet powersword is similar
ivory patrol
I guess it depends on what the vet is running
carmine raptor
Yeah, I guess hordes only come in one direction
ivory patrol
there are definitely spots where they come from multiple
ornate hamlet
Are there any other weps we get specifically that others don't besides force sword and staff
ivory patrol
no
carmine raptor
Are there any other weps we get specifically that others don't besides force swo...
Rapier, but I've never used it
shut thorn
Dueling saber
ivory patrol
oh I thought vet also got saber
carmine raptor
Yeah, saber. Not a rapier
carmine raptor
Brings me back to Saltzpyre ^ ^
ornate hamlet
Are force staffs like vermintide 2 different abilities on staffs
carmine raptor
Yeah
ornate hamlet
Kk
carmine raptor
They're really fun and all have some good use
shut thorn
Psyker is just a descendant of sienna and Victor tbh
carmine raptor
I can see using any but trauma on damnation
worthy wasp
But trauma
carmine raptor
Lol
lament glen
https://tenor.com/view/dartacan-gif-23609083
carmine raptor
Yeah trauma needs some love.
fading yew
Battle meditation procs are fun.
carmine raptor
It can be really disruptive to big groups, armored or not
shut thorn
Trauma srsly needs faster charge
carmine raptor
Just not my style really
lament glen
I love zappy hands, I just wish it hit more targets
ivory patrol
you basically have to max charge to actually hit more than 3 enemies
shut thorn
The bigger issue is chargetime
worthy wasp
Like... playing with Antax MkV.... debating whether or not itd be better to just play another class that gets the Antax MkV or if there is a point to running it as Psyker.
Like, Psykinetics class skills dont synergize at all w/ non-force weapons
lament glen
https://tenor.com/view/u-unlimited-power-star-wars-lightning-gif-14542323
I scream this pretty much every time. I need help
wet gust
No, they need help
ivory patrol
hahaha
olive ember
Like... playing with Antax MkV.... debating whether or not itd be better to just...
running it on zealot is pretty fun... but they also got the thunder hammer and eviserator
running it on veteran is pretty nice... but they also have the bullshit power sword
ivory patrol
feels kinda awk that arguably our best melee is everyone else's worst
or maybe not worst but
ynkow
shut thorn
running it on zealot is pretty fun... but they also got the thunder hammer and e...
Remember what they stole from us
Wrong one, meant vet
ivory patrol
blame fatshark for teasing us with it in the first place
fading yew
I know Vets love autogun, but is it good on psyker too?
magic hull
hmnm potential base stat is actually good on critical
shut thorn
Maybe change fs special light into a cleave instead of strikedown
ivory patrol
tbh don't even need another weapon (though I would love another force melee) could just make heavy warp charged a cleave
lol
ivory patrol
I think heavy would make more sense as a cleave
shut thorn
hmnm potential base stat is actually good on critical
Rlly good roll
ivory patrol
do we know what max values are
shut thorn
I think heavy would make more sense as a cleave
But my 1.5k
magic hull
379 modifiers :oo
shut thorn
do we know what max values are
80
ivory patrol
like max power rating
shut thorn
380 grey is how u get highest
ivory patrol
ah
shut thorn
480 or 500 i forgot
wet gust
Which staff is the best for you guys?
shut thorn
Depends on comp
shut thorn
Void if shield ogryn/second psyker
ivory patrol
Purg is fun because magic flamethrower
shut thorn
Otherwise surge
ivory patrol
how do you know what other psyker is running when u have mute pugs tho D:
snow dust
how do you know what other psyker is running when u have mute pugs tho D:
use the power of the warp, duh.
shut thorn
I don't play pub
ivory patrol
true they are just a part of me dream after all
snow dust
purg staff is fun but it kinda blinds your own teammates. (.-.)
round charm
which map is the good one for cliffhanger?
ivory patrol
snoopy last hold on one of the espionage is a good spot
shut thorn
Past arch on left there is a tiny bridge
ivory patrol
with the 2 bridges while hacking
can't remember the map, but it's incredibly easy to stack up the horde on a bridge with FS push
I got it by accident on that one
static epoch
which map is the good one for cliffhanger?
chasm
shut thorn
Chasm is faster and its how u did 20 out of 20
round charm
cool, ill check map out
hot ice
hmmm, been using the mk5 duelling sword, it feels i dont do much
horde clear is just light > light > repeat, ye?
round charm
i just drag the force sword
round charm
can hit a decent amount with fast enough swing
cobalt tartan
which map is the good one for cliffhanger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis
Chasm logistratum
wet gust
Is Force Sword like Chainsword?
round charm
insofar as single target big damage swing
thick surge
hmmm, been using the mk5 duelling sword, it feels i dont do much
getting headshots is really important with dueling swords
vernal flare
Is there still the crash from using the flamethrower staff(forgot the name my bad)
magic hull
horde clear is just light > light > repeat, ye?
its good for crowd control, not really an elite melee
cyan echo
for force sword = light - Heavy - block
ivory patrol
2nd heavy better for cleave true
hot ice
what staff do yall run with duel sword?
ivory patrol
Is there still the crash from using the flamethrower staff(forgot the name my ba...
I've only had crashes when electrocuting enemies or popping their heads
I've slid through the earth a few times though
vernal flare
I've only had crashes when electrocuting enemies or popping their heads
For me i have a crash that happens when i light an enemy on fire w the staff
radiant lance
Calling it right now, peril cost for blocking ranged attacks with Deflector is going to be nerfed. I will be saving a link to this message. Thank you.
ivory patrol
hahaha
is it super cheap w/ Kinetic Deflection + Deflector FS
I haven't tried the perk yet
last sleet
Should I Try upgrading this surge staff? I'm not sure if the base stat is high enough.
radiant lance
Should I Try upgrading this surge staff? I'm not sure if the base stat is high e...
Not high enough
rustic viper
Hey, I'm a totally new to this genre and game, I'm playing Psyker and was wondering if running Force sword + Force staff is bad?
magic hull
nope
radiant lance
Hey, I'm a totally new to this genre and game, I'm playing Psyker and was wonder...
Force Sword is great, a bit tricky to use. Trauma Staff isn't good. Other staffs are good.
ivory patrol
Every weapon is viable if you're good enough
magic hull
you just need to have good warp management
last sleet
Not high enough
Hmm I was wondering because except damage all stats are high-ish, and I guess the point of surge is mostly CC?
ivory patrol
You can definitely roll a better quell/warp resist charge
celest oar
godamnit, so close https://i.imgur.com/KztsgZ6.png
magic hull
Hmm I was wondering because except damage all stats are high-ish, and I guess th...
its slightly above average
last sleet
Btw what blessings do I want on Surge staff?
rustic viper
Appreciate the help, thanks
ivory patrol
Only ones I've seen are +crit with peril and chained secondaries charge faster
rustic viper
If I'm using Force sword, I'm only lvl 7 atm
Should I strive to use a specific guntype?
stuck basalt
If I'm using Force sword, I'm only lvl 7 atm
Should I strive to use a specific g...
game start at level 30, just use whatever you like before 30 xD
shy turret
Ok the cliffhanger penance is 100% broken. I just knocked like 10-15 off a ledge and didnt get it
rustic viper
game start at level 30, just use whatever you like before 30 xD
Oh okay ๐
shy turret
No, you have to knock off 7. They patched it
shy turret
Yep
ivory patrol
I saw on the steam achievements it specifies using your ability
bronze dust
man you can really spam head pop
ivory patrol
kinetic barrage is a little nuts
though ngl with consistent charge generation Quicken isn't bad for lots of staggers
bronze dust
im only lvl 4 rn but managing your peril is pretty ez so far
just make sure you dont use abilities at 100 and youre good
it couid be 99 and you can still use them
cyan echo
i think Trauma staff, if you charge it to 98 and pop so it goes to 100, you wont go boom
bronze dust
yeah
ivory patrol
Surge staff kills you if you end at 100 
bronze dust
crazy
ivory patrol
it feels much better than vermintide did
bronze dust
just spam head pop on the boss and it dies lol
ivory patrol
not actively punished for using your class feature
bronze dust
yeah lmao
bronze dust
could never play sienna
knotty anchor
At first the surge staff boomed me a lot thanks to that adjustment period.
bronze dust
was worried about playing psyker but super fun so far
ivory patrol
yeah, anytime I get a new one I have to test it to see how much it gives when I pop it
bronze dust
i like zealot but idk something about it just feels unimpactful
ivory patrol
so I know how far I can push it
ivory patrol
dot that purg staff applies
a bunch of the feats implement it, level 30 one makes the other ones actually usable
dusk pilot
tbh with you Soulblaze is underpowered
ivory patrol
if you want to light the world on fire that is
bronze dust
gotcha
ivory patrol
Soulblaze is alright, if your team doesn't just oneshot everything
dusk pilot
Things die long before it has any effect is the thing
ivory patrol
it's pretty good vs ogryns since they're just sacks of HP
but it does nothing to Crushers for reasons
dusk pilot
Does pidly damage to bosses as well
polar fractal
siblings, i am in a heresy mission on my ogryn, where our psyker is using the recon lasgun as ranged weapon
orchid dirge
the only purpose of soulblaze is to gain stacks (if you are 30)
dusk pilot
I've seen certain pskyer builds use lasguns
Are they at least using a force sword
That would be true heresy
If not
ivory patrol
Soulblaze is good CC/horde killer if you have no PS vet
and it suppresses maulers/ragers
dusk pilot
Soulblaze is good CC/horde killer if you have no PS vet
I mean, if you want a horde killer just use Void Staff
Pops hordes and elites alike
thick surge
XII is one of the viable options for heresy+ imo lol, even if it makes you a worse vet
ivory patrol
full soulblaze build is def not very effective, but it is certainly fun
it is so so easy to perma 4 charge with it
dusk pilot
It needs a buff I think.
Though, I'm assuming if subclasses eventually become a thing
ivory patrol
yeah but it's hard to buff dots without making them busted
dusk pilot
It'll get it's own subclass?
orchid dirge
Honestly i would increase head pop speed with each stack or smthing, right now the passive its worthless
wicked grove
siblings, i am in a heresy mission on my ogryn, where our psyker is using the r...
What is this darling doing
wicked grove
there are I think 5 different psyker disciplines?
There's like multiple.
dusk pilot
there are I think 5 different psyker disciplines?
Most of them seem supplementary and useless compared to others though, like investing fully into a Brain Blast psyker
wicked grove
But the game only wants one.
dusk pilot
Brain Blast falls off massively in late game stuff
ivory patrol
I am referring to in-lore/the last time I played a Dark Heresy game
wicked grove
Most of them seem supplementary and useless compared to others though, like inve...
Not really. The 40k game goes wayyyyy more into it
dusk pilot
Oh right right
wicked grove
It's just the game isn't really...well...accommodating
dusk pilot
I mean yeah no, there are plenty of psykers that exist that do different things.
wicked grove
since they're like divination
Divination and Astrogation
thick surge
psyker talents really need some rework to increase build diversity and make gameplay different
dusk pilot
I've found I basically default to either lightning staff or my go to workhorse Void Staff
ivory patrol
Biomancy would be cool, Psykinetic is already telekinesis
dusk pilot
I'd use the flame staff but the mouse one attack is just awful
last sleet
Oh they buffed surge staff. You don't explode from using it at 80 peril any more.
dusk pilot
Biomancy would be cool, Psykinetic is already telekinesis
biomancy was a thing actually in a previous version of darktide
ivory patrol
Purg LMB is to make the dog go away in midair
fallow meadow
I mean yeah no, there are plenty of psykers that exist that do different things.
like choppy and shooty psyker
dusk pilot
I mean a psyker that enhances their shooty/choppy ability is just a zealot/sharpshooter
๐
rustic willow
Got cliffhanger penance and realized it's only 7 enemies now
ivory patrol
I mean a psyker that enhances their shooty/choppy ability is just a zealot/sharp...
actually a reason for a Divination subclass???
Could craft it around self/team buffs
dusk pilot
I still feel as a psyker main that I'm ultimately a worse sharpshooter, but hey, at least if I'm caught in a team of sharpshooters they have to rely on me for horde duty
Team buff subclass sounds fun
ivory patrol
except when they all have power swords LUL
dusk pilot
We have the coordination stuff
orchid dirge
actually a reason for a Divination subclass???
this would make for a pretty interesting class honeslty
dusk pilot
So you could just make it heavily invest in that
last sleet
What's the current opinion on void staff vs surge staff?
fallow meadow
except when they all have power swords LUL
forcd sword does seems out gun by power/chain sword
orchid dirge
im a void enjoyer ngl
dusk pilot
it deals with hordes and it also stuns elites/shreds them
thick surge
What's the current opinion on void staff vs surge staff?
Void is fun, but surge is much better, although makes you more reliant on teammates.
dusk pilot
Void is fun, but surge is much better, although makes you more reliant on teamma...
Problem being, I've been in situations where everyone had short range options
ivory patrol
ime void is better, except when you need to stunlock elites/specials
dusk pilot
And I couldn't effectively use my surge staff
ivory patrol
surge is more fun tho
fallow meadow
void staff is also good because it don't add peril on shooting your charge. You can use it more times before rest
last sleet
On surge to stunlock elites, do you hold right and spam left? Or let it charge fully?
dusk pilot
I barely struggle to delete hordes with my void staff and not just hordes either, elite enemies melt if you hit them with a fully charged blast in the face.
ivory patrol
charging only increases dmg and a tiny bit more stun, which is negated by hitting them more
thick surge
On surge to stunlock elites, do you hold right and spam left? Or let it charge f...
spam it. Only charge when there's a couple of elites left you need to kill
dusk pilot
On higher difficulties it's faster and better than using brain blast
ivory patrol
BB's only real utility is it completely ignoring armour/cover
dusk pilot
Can pop them from long range ez
dusk pilot
BB's only real utility is it completely ignoring armour/cover
except when it's a weird railing
ivory patrol
free stagger a bulwark, lock onto a sniper when you only see them half a second
ugh
dusk pilot
Those are psyker proof
thick surge
BB is only for like snipers, bombers and situationally some ogryn enemies
fallow meadow
To be fair, void don't do much explosive damage. You need a direct hit to kill
orchid dirge
BB is too slow
ivory patrol
just highroll a good blast radius
dusk pilot
BB is only for like snipers, bombers and situationally some ogryn enemies
problem being they clearly want you to use it to kill things to rank up it's power so it's more effective, but that just doesn't scale well
ivory patrol
also void radius is arguable better than trauma's
since you have to charge trauma forever to get any decent bomb
thick surge
problem being they clearly want you to use it to kill things to rank up it's pow...
well I assume most people play diff 2 and 3 and so far they probably balance with that in mind
dusk pilot
Trauma seems like such a useless staff, literally void and the lightning staff do what it does better
grim bay
https://i.imgur.com/P1LT2A2.png does Sustained Fire work for staff?
dusk pilot
heck even the flame staff is better than a trauma staff
ivory patrol
nice
grim bay
Old vs New staff: https://i.imgur.com/iX5qJV2.jpeg
orchid dirge
Trauma seems like such a useless staff, literally void and the lightning staff d...
The only way to fix trauma is to ramp up its damage a lot
grim bay
not sure what sustained Fire does tho
doesnt seem to do more dmg if i spam attacks
in testing area*
dusk pilot
It sounds like it would only work with guns
static epoch
whats highest base modifier again... i forgot ๐
ivory patrol
The only way to fix trauma is to ramp up its damage a lot
trauma needs larger area or to actually damage things outside the exact center
dusk pilot
since a staff doesn't have anything in it's salvo???
thick surge
whats highest base modifier again... i forgot ๐
380
dusk pilot
Either that or sustained fire might only work with the mouse one attack
ivory patrol
ooh yeah might only be for primary fire
dusk pilot
It's not really clear
static epoch
oh damn I got extremely lucky then cause I got a chainsword and a void staff sitting at 377 and 380
from one shop refresh
ivory patrol
sick
shy turret
Ran about 20 missions now to get penances and every time someone else ruins it lmao
Fuck this
static epoch
which penance?
ivory patrol
pick n' mix?
ivory patrol
you'll never get it with pubs
rending reduces armour
so you'd have to headshot a crusher 5 times for it to actually do something and by that time it's already dead if your team is competent
dusk pilot
I've found one of the most useful staff perks is the one that stops you from losing charge if you get hit
static epoch
it's very hard i never get it to be useful over 3 stacks and i got it on a fast as hell duelling sword
thick surge
yeah that one is not a good blessing
dusk pilot
Lot of blessings seem to be underpowered tbh
ivory patrol
recomended sword is mk5 right? or is that axe
wicked grove
I mean I'm struggling with malice due to people being level 10 or level 8
Leveling as psyker is soul crushing
dusk pilot
At least when crafting comes around it'll be easy to get the blessings we want on weapons
thick surge
recomended sword is mk5 right? or is that axe
catachan sword? You want IV variant and must have ignore enemy hitmass blessing or it's garbage
wicked grove
Literally and figuratively
ivory patrol
nah dueling saber
dusk pilot
I LOVE the dueling saber
thick surge
mk5 and mk2 are good variants
ivory patrol
fuck a dagger
grim bay
why mk5 mk2?
orchid dirge
Lot of blessings seem to be underpowered tbh
we are supposed to lvl them up with our inexsiting crafting system
grim bay
why not mk4 ๐
thick surge
mk4 is garbage with the defense stat
loud violet
Does sustained fire work with secondary fire?
dusk pilot
The dodging let me completely avoid a daemonhosts damage output
Dueling sabers are great
Only reason I got hit was because I dodged into a wall and then hordes swarmed me, but otherwise I could have stayed alive :v
ivory patrol
might try the saber if I find a good one, otherwise it'll be hard to pull me away from my deflector FS
loud violet
ivory patrol
lol literally waiting for it tarrable
loud violet
This time it'll be good
wet gust
Ok sure, but what is Soulblaze? Where is the description of that?
ivory patrol
This time it'll be good
dusk pilot
Ok sure, but what is Soulblaze? Where is the description of that?
it's a damage over time effect
ivory patrol
soulblaze is what purge applies
dusk pilot
wrack and ruin is effectively useless in anything higher than tier 2 content tho
wet gust
it's a damage over time effect
How am I supposed to know that with no description at all?
dusk pilot
Since you won't be using brain blast much past that
loud violet
Since you won't be using brain blast much past that
???
ivory patrol
even with full soulblaze build wrack & ruin is useless
loud violet
I use brain blast all the time in heresy
loud violet
and almost singlehandedly wipe out most elites
ivory patrol
you must not play with vets
dusk pilot
In what situation is an elite enemy near a bunch of horde enemies
Wrack and Ruin rarely ever procs for me
ivory patrol
every time I see an elite/spec it's their headless corpse falling to the floor
orchid dirge
they're busted
thick surge
you can use just BB spam, but your dps/enemy clear time is super bad compared to what it could be.
ivory patrol
Purg staff better single target vs elites than BB
dusk pilot
Not that I'm complaining tbh, a dead enemy is fine by me.
Brain Blast in later stage content with a sharpshooter might as well be a highlight button tho :V
ivory patrol
lol yeah
loud violet
THAT REALLY BUTTERS MY BISCUIT
ivory patrol
they see the blue and think "ooh shiny" and click on it
loud violet
You light up a head and the veteran does exactly that
Like a fucking cat with a laserpointer
thick surge
tbh I'm glad bb spam is not a good current endgame strat since I played prebeta where it was the only thing worth doing and boy does it get stale fast
loud violet
YOU KARKER I NEED THAT FOR MY TOUGHNESS REGEN
ivory patrol
just so my vets can oneshot the ogryns after I stun em
last sleet
I wish I knew what mission types I was missing for my achievement.
loud violet
Oh for the
ivory patrol
I wish I knew what mission types I was missing for my achievement.
probably repair/espionage
wet gust
Amazing Imperial Edition helmet
ivory patrol
10 seconds @loud violet
dusk pilot
I wish I knew what mission types I was missing for my achievement.
For me it was espionage
loud violet
dusk pilot
Since that one hadn't shown up since like, a few days into the beta
safe raven
<a:EYES:413936124311109653>
ivory patrol
it's all trash 
loud violet
wicked grove
tbh I'm glad bb spam is not a good current endgame strat since I played prebeta...
But what else is there for psyker
dusk pilot
loud violet
some seriously slow charge rate
thick surge
But what else is there for psyker
top tier horde clear, best cc in the game
loud violet
I might just take it because I dont have any other void strike
And i mean
there's a whole HOUR before a better one shows up
ivory patrol
I've seen worse
ivory patrol
I work in 7 hours so I'm going to bed, can't wait for the next xD
gn siblings pop some heads
loud violet
will do sibling
thick surge
not a single weapon over 340 base again
loud violet
ivory patrol
LOL
loud violet
i'm not even gonna
ivory patrol
good for... sprinting? rezzing?
loud violet
waste more materials
native horizon
orchid dirge
the shop is ruining the experience
loud violet
not to give them ideas
But I don't mind the shop
it's far better than a battlepass
which is ruining all the other games I play
wet gust
It is a DLC you have to buy
Kappa
safe raven
in a mtx shop near you in the near future
dusk pilot
orchid dirge
if they throw a battle pass im going back to vermintide
dusk pilot
I really wish it wasn't curio
summer prairie
In one shop. too bad about the finesse
wet gust
What should I prior on Curios as Psyker? HP or Toughness?
vivid merlin
just got crashed out of my game
willow nymph
Hey ๐ Can anyone help me with the stupid push achievement?
vivid merlin
to the login screen where I discovered the cash shop is on the escape menu
safe raven
Hey ๐ Can anyone help me with the stupid push achievement?
got it with a random barrel 
vivid merlin
so it's good we have that there handy whenever we need it
polar fractal
you know what weapon psyker really needs
vivid merlin
wispy tangle
What should I prior on Curios as Psyker? HP or Toughness?
toughness synergizes better with the perks you get
polar fractal
cyan echo
you know what weapon psyker really needs
thunderhammer
loud violet
am confused
dusk pilot
am confused
Yeah that's weird
vivid merlin
am confused
character select screen
dusk pilot
I just have social as well
dusk pilot
a
thick surge
What should I prior on Curios as Psyker? HP or Toughness?
stamina recovery, block recovery, max hp increase, and probably bomber/flamer/gunner/sniper resistance depending on what you struggle with. Probably one +1 wound for damnation/heresy too
loud violet
SEE THIS DOES BOTHER ME A LIL BIT
Why is there a preview for the paid stuff
but when we got to the other shop for cosmetics
we get a tiny shitty image
and we gotta guess how it looks on our char
loud violet
That said the paid outfit does look good aside for the toilet bowl helmet
dusk pilot
and we gotta guess how it looks on our char
tbf it's the same there too, heck, you can't preview it on your actual character
since it's on a weird void character
vivid merlin
the only crying shame is that the game is great
๐ฅฒ
anyway see you in another hour when I log in to check the store for a force sword
turbid olive
is the Surgestaff ninjanerfed upon release!?!?! feels like it dows half damage and generate double the peril
wispy tangle
is the Surgestaff ninjanerfed upon release!?!?! feels like it dows half damage a...
mine works exactly the same, so not at all
thick surge
is the Surgestaff ninjanerfed upon release!?!?! feels like it dows half damage a...
peril generation is somewhat tied to your warp resistance rolls and what talents you run
loud violet
is the Surgestaff ninjanerfed upon release!?!?! feels like it dows half damage a...
Psyker got nerfed overall
thick surge
not all staffs are equal in practice
loud violet
psykinetic wrath used to clear your entire peril
wispy tangle
yeah it sounds like you changed your perks/weapon for the worse somehow and didn't realize it
brave token
Best dps in the game?
loud violet
probably veteran
thick surge
psykinetic wrath used to clear your entire peril
psyker was op and boring imo. He needed the nerfs
brave token
psyker was op and boring imo. He needed the nerfs
Psyker already got lot of nerf you dontcha?
thick surge
Psyker already got lot of nerf you dontcha?
I was talking about pre beta, before closed beta
tall meteor
psyker was op and boring imo. He needed the nerfs
And now itโs nerfed too hard.
wispy tangle
while playing with the siblings yesterday someone mentioned they'd like a rework where BB does continuous damage when channelled, with the damage going up the longer it's held on a target
thick surge
Imo you don't need to rework BB, but instead put some talents to modify how it works for instance. If you want to spec into that you should be able to
potent echo
trauma staff in heresy actually doable, kinda poop tho
thick surge
all-rounder, bb focus and memeburn focus should be the different build options thru talents imo
loud violet
I don't know in what situation I'd want to use trauma staff
It feels like a worse void staff
orchid dirge
i would exchange a very powerful BB for a warp charge
potent echo
stagger 5 elites
loud violet
Sends one of your veterans back to start.
native horizon
how psyker is op???? don't even has enough DPS output like bolter...
thick surge
psyker is not op lol. Last time he was op was like 2+ months ago
wispy tangle
i don't think a baseline ability should be something you have to spec into to make it decent, in my opinion all it needs is maybe a slightly faster cast and/or needs to hit 1shot breakpoints on damage on some enemies without warp charges, i.e. ragers and dogs (dogs needing charges to 1shot is a bit annoying). if you specifically specced for a BB build then that should take it beyond decent into being actually good, which it doesn't quite feel like right now
thick surge
that was my point. The talents suck currently and need a rework
loud violet
I would like more interactive talents
native horizon
psyker is nerfed that they don't even have a decent coat to wear.
tight saddle
The times I get called OP in Damntaion solo quickplay is when I CC everything off of our main source of damage depending on what we're fighting. They call it OP because from their perspective they can freely do whatever they want without having to worry about anything touching them.
loud violet
Stuff like this is fun
It's not incredibly useful to me
but fun
maybe if I had a deflector sword
๐ฟ
native horizon
can that block range attacks?
native horizon
...
thick surge
fatshark promised build variety thru talents since they only gave us one subclass per class, but it's not really there
native horizon
useless
thick surge
it's a good talent with deflector + deflection force sword
if you ain't got that you'll never pick it
native horizon
I can't play psyker without Mind is motion
thick surge
I find mind in motion useless if I run a staff lol
loud violet
frick
tight saddle
Yeah, Mind in Motion is for people that can't slide around lol
wicked grove
the priority for darktide is not to make a game but ship a product
Tbh Tencent prob ruined the release and future of FS.
loud violet
slide to the left
wicked grove
Expect alot of skins
No real gameplay updates
If we get new items, old items will be nerfed or changed
(I.e. look at League of Legends for the trends of a Tencent game)
idle bay
Stats maybe underwhelming but two 3-pip perks are nice. That us what i call gift from Emprah! ๐
Not using it though. Force sword with Deflect is better for me ๐
tight saddle
If you have experience with Tencent touching games the doom pill isn't a pill anymore.
wicked grove
I wouldn't swallow the doomer pill quite yet
I mean I love the game, but the reality is there is a trend in Tencent games.
And FS is just another company like Riot
native horizon
If non of teammate able to pull the boss... I wouldn't mind change out Mind in motion.
It trace me all the time... and only me
tight saddle
The first Pin in this channel should be something about teaching Psykers how to slip-n-slide-n-cast.
last sleet
Yeah, Mind in Motion is for people that can't slide around lol
Mind in motion also does nothing for staff users. As staff has it's own quell movement speed, seemingly unaffected by mind in motion.
wicked grove
The first Pin in this channel should be something about teaching Psykers how to ...
Tbh it shouldn't be hard?
It's kinda common sense
tight saddle
Tbh it shouldn't be hard?
Not really, the game doesn't teach people it and many pugs, even in Damnation don't do it.
loud violet
Ngl I didn't bother sliding around until starting to play heresy
tight saddle
Just because you and I know how doesn't mean everyone else knows how.
loud violet
because i was actually having to try
loud violet
Damnation is still too tough for me.
thick surge
There's gonna be detailed guides out there soon if not already. People who want to learn and get better for diff 4 and 5 will find the strats on their own
native horizon
where's my robe.
Probably never ganna happen. They can't make it.
last sleet
Jackpot?
loud violet
Yes that's decent
potent echo
nice
thick surge
Top tier
loud violet
The blessing is a lil weak but
the stats are good
and you can prolly switch blessings later
native horizon
decent option but not Jackpot
wicked grove
I don't like the fact the crouch and slide are just so clunky especially with how the movement feels
If you're gonna have clunky movement controls at least make the slide button something other than crouch
tight saddle
slide casting felt weird at first, but once I changed my keybinds it's fun as hell now.
last sleet
Ahh, I'm missing 75 Diamantium thingies to make it Legendary.
wicked grove
Ahh, I'm missing 75 Diamantium thingies to make it Legendary.
You mean side currency number 10 because we need 10 currencies that don't matter and it's not account wide so you just play that character.
thick surge
Only base stats matter right now anyway
loud violet
Ye
thick surge
Everything else can be tweaked
loud violet
I'd still buy it for later
thick surge
Eventually
last sleet
You mean side currency number 10 because we need 10 currencies that don't matter...
I truly hope the crafting mats get made account wide.
wicked grove
I truly hope the crafting mats get made account wide.
Pro tip.
It won't.
loud violet
Comfy here to spread joy.
wet gust
Just when?
tight saddle
I'm not giving them another dollar if they keep this mind numbing stupid ass grind for alts.
wicked grove
Comfy here to spread joy.
Ten cent games are very mobile like.
native horizon
only hope they will give max stats eventually like VT2
tight saddle
I want to be able to swap classes as easily as I could in VT2.
wicked grove
They WANT you to spend money in skins, and make everything that should be easy, very difficult
Like take our upgrading system. VT2 has a better system (even on its launch)
thick surge
Fatshark said they got inspiration from destiny 2, so you should expect a never ending grind. Things will not be as easy to optimize as in VT2
wicked grove
Why does shop work when our upgrading table doesnt.
wicked grove
Fatshark said they got inspiration from destiny 2, so you should expect a never ...
I love destiny 2. But it's not a game I'd wanna emulate.
The players hate playing d2.
I'd know cuz I'm a d2 player. I hate playing d2. It's not as fun as when I used to play it.
native horizon
When they can't even get psyker outfit right. There is not chance for me to spend a diem.
radiant lance
I don't like the fact the crouch and slide are just so clunky especially with ho...
Clunky how? It's extremely strong
wicked grove
Clunky how? It's extremely strong
Apex does the slide/crouch well.
The movement in Darktide doesn't
radiant lance
Apex does the slide/crouch well.
The movement in Darktide doesn't
It feels great to me.
wicked grove
It's like moving through molasses.
radiant lance
Especially with Tac Axe, or Combat Knife. Oof, so nice.
radiant lance
Use weapons with high dodge distances
Yeah with the force sword it ain't great
It highly depends on the weapon
tight saddle
It's like moving through molasses.
Different weapons give different slide properties. It makes sense for a magic user to not be as physically adept.
But even with the sliding we do have It's wild how much a magic caster can move already lol.
wicked grove
Different weapons give different slide properties. It makes sense for a magic us...
It's just so slooowwwww...Apex does the slide/crouch well. And they have fucking casters.
loud violet
Isn't apex considerably more fast paced by design tho
wicked grove
Idk could be my ZOOM ZOOM MUST GO ZOOOOOOOM
tight saddle
It's just so slooowwwww...Apex does the slide/crouch well. And they have fucking...
Yeah, but Apex's movement isn't designed for a game like DT.
wicked grove
Isn't apex considerably more fast paced by design tho
Considering combat drugs is a normative in Apex universe. Yes.
tight saddle
If we had Apex's movement with the way DT is right now it'd be stupid easy.
loud violet
Let's just pray that the game adds a class that will satisfy peoples need for zooming
elfin crystal
is it me or diamantine is now more common than plasteel?
wait wrong channel
carry on
loud violet
Add a weapon that increases their movement speed by 5% for 12 sec stacks up to 10 times
wicked grove
The cutscenes are just...so meh
thick surge
Honestly this game needs some form of campaign.
even a map selector would go a long way
wicked grove
Add a weapon that increases their movement speed by 5% for 12 sec stacks up to 1...
Hell just add a perk that does it but it's only on "fast" weapons
Name it "Speed of the Emperors Chosen"
thick surge
I just wanna play different maps. I don't wanna play the same map over and over again just because it's the only diff 4 option available
wicked grove
even a map selector would go a long way
Yea....that ain't happening. Tencent needs you to grind.
native horizon
The cutscenes are just...so meh
there is reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAlf1C4Mags
wicked grove
So you will grind.
tight saddle
there is reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAlf1C4Mags
A yes a 2 hour long reason, mind time stamping it or something?
wicked grove
I hate the "you must have x/7 mission" and it doesn't tell you which missions.
wicked grove
A yes a 2 hour long reason, mind time stamping it or something?
I mean I am a debate watcher.
But dev watching is dry af.
tight saddle
I mean I am a debate watcher.
That has nothing to do with what I meant lol
loud violet
Devs aren't entertainers
tight saddle
I just wanted to know when and where is the part where they address that specific thing.
wicked grove
That has nothing to do with what I meant lol
Most debate videos are long form videos
tight saddle
Most debate videos are long form videos
That has nothing to do with what I meant lol.
wicked grove
Devs aren't entertainers
I never said they have to be. But it is dry.
loud violet
Ye
wicked grove
It's like saying here's a gin and tonic. And I want a good time with a cocktail
Like yes. I like a good mix drink, but you're not reading the room
tight saddle
I never said they have to be. But it is dry.
He never said they have to be or that you said they have to be lol
tight saddle
Don't add things to what people say in your head.
wicked grove
I mean just shoving a 2 hour dev team explanation doesn't do it. If I wanted a dissertation on game design I'd sign up for a class.
However the cutscenes just don't do it for me.
bold flint
i had a psyker who picked up a battery and start channeling brain burst
and the battery disappeared
steady sand
Magic
loud violet
The warp can have a few batteries (as a treat)
fallow meadow
yumyum
zenith fox
https://i.imgur.com/r6YnFak.png just got this on psyker as a mission drop ๐ฅฒ
i think the game is telling me to play vet lmao
viscid matrix
https://i.imgur.com/r6YnFak.png just got this on psyker as a mission drop ๐ฅฒ
pity you cant transfer weapons between characters
zenith fox
maybe we can hope for when theres more unique weapons?
the same way vt2 you can use your trinkets on any of the classes
magic hull
I had a heart attack
static epoch
nice
magic hull
3 more rolls to go
static epoch
the chance is there go for it
wicked grove
https://i.imgur.com/r6YnFak.png just got this on psyker as a mission drop ๐ฅฒ
Too bad headhunter autogun is so boring
magic hull
the chance is there go for it
Im saving to roll for this one first
wicked grove
Albeit you should be a vet based on your name
slate reef
I found Purgatus meah
wicked grove
Cheytac Intervention. One of the most modern looking sniper rifles
thick surge
Nice got lucky with blessing. Too bad that rampage is only lvl2
not perfect, but will likely take a long time until I get a better one
viscid matrix
does the shield on assassination targets count as hp damage for the heresy pennance?
last sleet
Neither is great, but I guess left is better?
thick surge
yeah left is much better
damage roll doesn't matter much on surge, but that 376 base is just overall so much better compared to your 343 base one
fallow meadow
Terrifying Barrage sounds pretty good though
limpid lily
MAN, is it me or is Sire Melk just SUPER nice to Psykers? I mean, when I play as my lvl 30 zealot, he's all like "stay back you stink" "ugh it's you" etc...but with Psyker, it's like "Hey good morning" "I got befitting assignments for you!" etc...
dull root
Are there any feats that are must-takes for psykers?
Or does it depend on the kind of staff you're running
velvet stratus
Depends on the staff
limpid lily
honestly all the feats of psyker I've seen are very pick-and-choose, depends on your build and loadout
limpid lily
I mean, no superior choices, but there are ones that you oughta...not take
dull root
Such as?
limpid lily
like Kinetic Overload
spice owl
So far u havent found a good "turns out i didnt like staves, so i picked up a gun" psyker build
limpid lily
actually, Kinetic Overload MIGHT be good, if you pair with Psychic Communion
but it's kinda inconsistent I think, havent played with it tho
then again, 4 stacks of soulblaze, not exactly that good...maybe
spice owl
Still dont know for certain what soulblaze does except mid damage on a good day
spice owl
Really? Boring
light plank
Are there any feats that are must-takes for psykers?
peril blocking (forgot the feat name) is pretty good, imo
fallow meadow
I feels like the build is based on which staff you pick up.
limpid lily
well, not everything has to be overly complicated imo xD
spice owl
More i was hoping for some cool telekinetic stuff
limpid lily
but MAYBE, it does have sth...specific, and not just normal fire DoT
clear light
I have this yellow notification in my cosmetics, but I can't seem to find anything new. Any idea what might be the issue?
limpid lily
telekinetic stuff? from soulblaze?
limpid lily
I mean, it is what it is I suppose but how come you hoped for that xD?
it's "soul" and "blaze", not sure I'd expect "telekinesis" from it xD
spice owl
Well, more like a telekinetic wizard using...fire?
Fells off to vegin with as a concept imho
tight saddle
ehhh
limpid lily
isn't telekinetic the ability to control/move/levitate objects and stuff with your mind?
spice owl
Yes
tight saddle
rip quell
spice owl
So now we set things on fire kekw
limpid lily
aghh I mean, psykers can do all kinds of stuff alltogether anyway
if they know how
I think?
fallow meadow
My personal feeling is "Skills didn't do that much, just focus on looking for good weapon"
limpid lily
just think of it as....not physical fire, but more like burning your soul
spice owl
Yeah, but there is a pyromancer discipline
Which im sure we will have as a subclass later
vivid merlin
psyker fuegonasus
umbral trench
Whats the best feats to use for a surge staff? I feel like im using to much peril to be able to use it properly
ivory patrol
5 most common psychic disciplines in 40k are Biomancy, Divination, Telekinesis, Pyromancy, and Telepathy
hard to make a subclass for darktide style game with Divination/Telepathy, so if we get subclasses odds are they'll be Biomancy/Pyromancy
spice owl
Aye
full grotto
I was try to do this with full party friends but anyway its was hard
Fun fact i did it with randoms when was did weekly quests
https://youtu.be/u3-y7zN7phc
Its pure lucky, u just need good mobs spawn
clear light
Whats the best feats to use for a surge staff? I feel like im using to much peri...
Could take the 6% peril resistance talent at lvl 10
ivory patrol
It's reliant on warp charges
clear light
Tho I'm pretty sure surge is just taxing when it comes to peril
ivory patrol
which are not easy to maintain without the one in the same tier that allows allies to give you charges
fallow meadow
Whats the best feats to use for a surge staff? I feel like im using to much peri...
I use it for stun purpose more. just charge a bit and spam.
cursive tartan
i know a similar ability was worded incorrectly for Vet, is this the same case? or is it actually ANY enemy has a chance to give you a charge
fallow meadow
Anyone think force sword is good? Compare to chainsword, it have shittyer motion and the special attack is not that much powerful.
cursive tartan
Anyone think force sword is good? Compare to chainsword, it have shittyer motion...
i hate force sword but im also in the minority
combat axe all the way
full grotto
Anyone think force sword is good? Compare to chainsword, it have shittyer motion...
yes, with deflector
hallow needle
Anyone think force sword is good? Compare to chainsword, it have shittyer motion...
force sword special does nice dmg
fading yew
If your team's back is up against the wall and running out of resources, can it ever be a reasonable solution to go all in on warp abilities while slowly walking into the mob, with the intention of purposely triggering the Peril overload in the middle of the enemy horde? Could there ever be a situation where this is a good idea, or is it categorically a bad decision?
cursive tartan
If your team's back is up against the wall and running out of resources, can it ...
probably could but also just use your F
hallow needle
Is the cliff hanger penance bugged?
either that or just insanely annoying
im also stuck at 4
fallow meadow
force sword special does nice dmg
I like its special too, but with the cost of peril, it is not adding much compare to what chainsword already doing
hallow needle
I like its special too, but with the cost of peril, it is not adding much compar...
i just like doing assassination targets with it
just hit it like 5 times and its dead
half health bar before they can trigger their shields again
celest oar
left or right? https://i.imgur.com/bnCx1rO.png
fallow meadow
Yeah, but chainsword can do that as well without giving you peril, plus you can have a nicer regular motions. Which is my point that, force sword is under power.
cyan notch
Has to be a bug then
works fine for me
thick surge
left or right? https://i.imgur.com/bnCx1rO.png
left, better base stats and more important stat distribution too
static epoch
yeah left surge is literally just cc bot
i don't think a build exists that gives it decent damage
i could be wrong but even with warp nexus it barely ever procs and then you'd need it to proc on the right thing
sturdy cypress
this good?
static epoch
yes
I think so ๐
never tried flurry and nexus at the same time but i presume that's the best to use for me
thick surge
ideally you want 80% in warp resistance and quell speed, rest are kinda bonus for it
static epoch
^ that's what i found out too
thick surge
perks/blessings can be modified later when the upgrade system gets things added to it
ofc nice to have good rolls now
fallow meadow
I agree that surge is not that good at damage, but how about state for other staff?
thick surge
void ofc wants max damage roll
wary hinge
is deflector bugged
thick surge
Hoping for a 380 surge myself
static epoch
thick surge
my best surge is still only 330, but at least with a good stat spread
voidstaff really wants the 5% quell per weakspot hit blessing
frail spire
how many does the surge staff hit? is there a cap?
static epoch
It's the third upgrade I do to max in a row that gets terrifying barrage
you target two, then it jumps.
it's very unpredictable but it tends to pick closer to first target
magic hull
worth it to consecrate?
static epoch
worthy wasp
Wasnt under the impression that was a great psyker weapon
worthy wasp
Even that depends
The Antax MkV is one fk of a weapon as well, even for tanking because your push-attacking like a mofo
pastel scaffold
Can someone give me a link somewhere where all the weapon abilities are better explained? Im confused on how the right-click works on the Force Sword for example
magic hull
godamn 502
ivory patrol
also deflector FS goated imo because it blocks ranged
worthy wasp
IMO FS doesnt synergize super well with Surge
But works v well with Void
I think the best builds right now are FS + Void and Antax MkV + Surge
Purg is awesome, but you have no range aside from bb so are more reliant on your team than the setups I mentioned above
pastel scaffold
as for the Void, is it better to aim the right-click at the feet groups of enemies or it doesnt really matter?
worthy wasp
Void Staff is prob the least peril-hungry staff
ivory patrol
it travels thru enemies so if it's a big group feet is good
worthy wasp
Feel like Trauma, Purg, and Surge all are blowing through peril like crazy
ivory patrol
vs elites weak spot shots are probably better
cursive tartan
i am absolutely loving pugation staff. i was not enjoying psyker at all before i got that. now you can head pop and deal with elites easilly enough while still being a horde clearing machine
pastel scaffold
awesome. Thanks Jkymark
worthy wasp
Ye Purg is good
fallow meadow
Purge also not so good on heavy armor, but in most case it do the job.
cursive tartan
also the cc on purg is godlike
ivory patrol
Purg feels very good against everything except Crushers because reasons
cursive tartan
you can just stunlock the whole horde
steady sand
Or elites in horde
ivory patrol
their armour doesn't let them burn for some reason, everyone else's can't stop it
worthy wasp
IMO Purg + melee is too similar with what Zealot can already do tho
cursive tartan
IMO Purg + melee is too similar with what Zealot can already do tho
with unlimited ammo
ivory patrol
also bonus with purg is that every tick has a chance to proc 10% BB
worthy wasp
Ye it works v good with that trait
steady sand
Only what I wanted to see it's just on surge staff throw small lightnings in left atack not ball
worthy wasp
So does Surge staff
steady sand
Even for visual change
worthy wasp
If you use Surge or Purg you def want the 10% BB trait
ivory patrol
oh I just realised that if we do get subclasses later they're almost def Biomancy/Pyromancy... the staves are all for those 3 disciplines
Smite is literally a Biomancy power lol
fallow meadow
Surge doesn't seem syc that good on 10% BB, it build up your peril so quick.
steady sand
What possible subclasses can be lore friendly?
frail spire
im a new psyker and looking at the first middle feat - what does a warp attack mean?
ivory patrol
5 common disciplines: Biomancy, Divination, Telekinesis, Pyromancy, Telepathy
steady sand
Staff atacks and force swords atacks
ivory patrol
force weapons & brain burst
frail spire
any staff attack???
steady sand
Yes
cursive tartan
Surge doesn't seem syc that good on 10% BB, it build up your peril so quick.
that was my problem with surge, you only get like 4-5 bursts before youre tapped out
frail spire
so u are telling me i can kill a horde with my fire staff and get 10% toughness for each kill?
ivory patrol
What possible subclasses can be lore friendly?
likely not Telepath since those don't usually live long after soul-binding, Divination also hard to do, and current one is a Telekinetic so
Biomancy & Pyro
fallow meadow
How much peril is critical?
worthy wasp
that was my problem with surge, you only get like 4-5 bursts before youre tapped...
Thats why I use it with the MkV Antax
ivory patrol
How much peril is critical?
just don't cast at 100 and ur fine
though channelled (surge/purg) will blow you up if you end at 100
ruby merlin
Antax is top tier for tanking and dps in a tough spot. Surge provides a ton of utility to your team, so it's a perfect mix.
fallow meadow
Sooo the 10% BB skill is saying "Stay low when you are at 100% peril"?
It seem kinda redundant....
cursive tartan
fun fact for those that dont know but you can use F in the middle of blowing up and save yourself
this also lets you get out another BB of youre spamming that since you can cast one at 100%
not sure if thats intentional... but its a fun tech
south monolith
What do you consider a dps?
silver arrow
whats the worst staff?
fallow meadow
use void staff if you want shooty, use purge if you like fire
south monolith
Psyker has the best ranged horde clear with voidstrike and the quelling perk.
clear light
still I prefer the extra force weapon damage
Personally, I view the surge as a cc staff than a dps one. Would rather be able to cast more stuns than get a small percentage of dmg
def would go with more staff dmg on the other staves, tho
fallow meadow
I forgot the spelling, the T staff is the worst.
Surge don't do much damage even if you full change it. Just stun the enemy and let you team do the rest.
copper plank
Trauma?
fallow meadow
Trauma?
yeah, this one. Just avoid it. Buy a cheap onr and try it in the meat grinder if you got curious.
copper plank
I did love the Voidstrike but recently really loving the Surge for crowd control
Saved veterans a few times who got overwhelmed with a horde using my surge staff ๐ค
worthy wasp
Ye def feel like Void and Surge are the top
Purg is a step down for sure but still good
solemn harness
purge is good because u dont need a charge for cc
zenith fox
purgatus deals with hordes much easier than void but its also unable to do anything but hordes
solemn harness
just spam l-click but its closer range
the charge on purg doesnt cc like the basic attk
worthy wasp
I guess it depends on your melee... but FS and Antrax MkV both CC as well as an uncharged Purg and dont need charged lol
zenith fox
at the 3rd time i stopped reviving and just occasionally t-bagged while the shield ogryn (that also really loved using his special with shield and doing nothing else) would revive
cobalt fiber
i havent tried yet but how hard is it to find a group for the heresy penance (killing monster with BB) usually? i dont have any friend that play really
keen sigil
i found force sword kinda of a must in damnation for deflector, you are getting shred to pieces by lasgun assholes otherwise and u dont have a billion toughness like vet
orchid nest
i havent tried yet but how hard is it to find a group for the heresy penance (ki...
can definitely pug this one if you regularly play heresy. just need the two conditions to happen of have a shield ogryn and a daemonhost is spotted. just ask if they will do it as they try to sneak by.
devout belfry
can definitely pug this one if you regularly play heresy. just need the two cond...
Honestly the best way. Make sure you spec for BB and bring damage trinkets for more damage - makes it way easier.
loud violet
Siblings I've been trying out the zappy staff for CC
and I can't help but feel like I'm wasting my time
devout belfry
and I can't help but feel like I'm wasting my time
Wah?
keen sigil
and I can't help but feel like I'm wasting my time
zappy staff does negative dmg xdd
clear light
I feel like Im doing more just going purge staff
it's about cc, not dmg
fallow meadow
I guess it depends on your melee... but FS and Antrax MkV both CC as well as an ...
FS is good cc
How so? The motion is not very good in my opinion.
clear light
you can stop most elites in their tracks
keen sigil
it's about cc, not dmg
yes but its a bit sad when even on heresy it cannot kill fking poxwalkers in 1 cast
clear light
yes but its a bit sad when even on heresy it cannot kill fking poxwalkers in 1 c...
still can force them back tho
cobalt fiber
Honestly the best way. Make sure you spec for BB and bring damage trinkets for m...
yeah, its just finding a pug thats willing to help i guess ๐
clear light
you'll push him far enough to the point of him not exploding
keen sigil
you'll push him far enough to the point of him not exploding
no i mean the lowest tier of trash units the zombies
devout belfry
It isn't about kills. It immediately pulls enemies out of cover, from behind shields, etc and makes them stand up.
Then your teammates can do their job.
Or you can left click.
summer prairie
it does pretty good damage to flak armored which is mostly what matters
fallow meadow
I feel like Im doing more just going purge staff
Surge is mostly fir th stun. You are responsible to stun everything in front, especially elites.
clear light
It isn't about kills. It immediately pulls enemies out of cover, from behind shi...
you aren't playing for dmg when using surge
keen sigil
voidstrike is legit better you can actually kill stuff with it and you have very good toughness generation with it
devout belfry
I enjoy voidstrike when playing with randos.
fallow meadow
Stun charging dog and mult is very valuable.
devout belfry
But the stun on the surge and stagger on the trauma are kind of invaluable on damnation.
fallow meadow
You can also stun bomber to let him drop his granade.
solemn harness
theyll learn on higher diffs you need the cc more than dmg
ill take survivability and cc over dmg any day in this the damage comes especially if you arent taking dmg yourself
keen sigil
theyll learn on higher diffs you need the cc more than dmg
t5 pub voidstrike>surge
you stunning everything doesnt do shit when u have pepega team mates
devout belfry
As it currently stands were not the kill/dps role. Unless they rework some things.
summer prairie
voidstrike doesn't even do good damage to elites
devout belfry
I know that's not as satisfying as some want.
cyan notch
Fatshark said they got inspiration from destiny 2, so you should expect a never ...
got a link for this?
earnest rapids
surge does really good armour damage and can pretty much solocarry games by CCing everything, voidstrike is good too ofc
devout belfry
People raving about horde clear are probably new to tide games tbh.
idle bay
Just some ranting - i wasted ogrynload of materials trying to get just 1 curio with +1 Wound + Corruption resistance - and all i got is Dissapointment ๐ฆ
fallow meadow
I would say "If all you want is the most optimal play, void is your only choice" than.
devout belfry
I would say "If all you want is the most optimal play, void is your only choice"...
Look up the stagger values in advanced inspect and test breakpoints on diff 5.
loud violet
Welp I'm done playing with zapyy staff while playing with pugs
arctic rampart
The design of the class is just bad and all over the place. It's supposed to be a glass cannon, but is incapable of it. The stunbuilds and other builds people are running now is just what can be cobbled together from the weapons. The class itself and the talents are close to meaningless.
devout belfry
Not that everyone should build around the hardest difficulty. But that's my baseline.
summer prairie
even with optimal play I think the surge lets you finish the map faster
since you can just run into gunlines
devout belfry
My current routine. Speed run 3 missions with another class, check the shop, switch to psyker and check the shop - repeat.
idle bay
The design of the class is just bad and all over the place. It's supposed to be ...
If class were Meaningful - then FatShar will nerf it in meaningless. Is' their core game design.
fallow meadow
I am just using what I feel fun to use. Yes, void is strong, but if I want to snipe things, I would go play sharpshooter. Void is kinda boring for me.
devout belfry
I just wish it had more synergy. There's basically one build that makes sense mathematically. Half the abilities fight eachother.
keen sigil
If class were Meaningful - then FatShar will nerf it in meaningless. Is' their c...
r.i.p. sotn
arctic rampart
Having any talent at all that would help staff other than purg would be nice.
Most talents are based around BB, but BB is practically worthless.
devout belfry
Most talents are based around BB, but BB is practically worthless.
I just take the free BB every 15 seconds perc to keep stacks at 4. At least my passive lets me hit breakpoints. And the 3rd level 30 perk lets you burst a monster or something.
4 percent on kill or coherency kill to get a stack.
arctic rampart
And funnily enough, though most talents run off of BB and charges, not a single talents actually makes BB viable.
fallow meadow
I would also like to use Trauma if they can do the job. This is disappointing when I test out.
devout belfry
And 30 percent over 5 for every stack gained.
devout belfry
And funnily enough, though most talents run off of BB and charges, not a single ...
I believe the design was this: You're supposed to use your trinkets to hit breakpoints.
idle bay
Psyker needs Seer sublass that highlight all the kraking Snipers and Bombers that hide behind covers and inside the walls, wile throwing grenades and shooting through walls.... Also it should give you screen in screen that shows what behind
arctic rampart
Well yes you HAVE to run passive charge generation. I've stopped caring about charges though, they mean very very little.
Never seen a trinket increase damage though?
devout belfry
Well yes you HAVE to run passive charge generation. I've stopped caring about c...
With a max damage stave its the difference between one shotting a lot of things and not.
steady sand
They plan to add more subclasses in future.. But when...
How
Why and how much
Who knows.
idle bay
Why and how much
Payed DLC ofc ๐
Money is tight this days - everything must be made into source of profit
devout belfry
"Sub classes". How's it going to work? Will the psyker just be able to level up other disciplines? Will I have to roll a new character with new inventory?
fallow meadow
You need to maintain 4 change to really make the different. Don't worth it if you only have BB
solemn harness
use the feat for 10% chance to bb on hit and recon lasgun
arctic rampart
It will probably be new completely siloed classes. They've said they're making classes, not subclasses. But who knows. Game was supposed to be classless until super recently.
static epoch
Classless tide game... that sounds, strange. Sure that's what they said? ๐
Maybe roleless? I don't know.
meager pulsar
I hope they really donโt expect us to level to 30 for a subclass. Judging by the naming conventions there are classes now, and they are Psyker, Zealot, Veteran and Ogryn
arctic rampart
Talents per weapon, you chose 'class' by which weapon you equipped.
proud thorn
what setting do i need to change to make the lightning effects look better?
devout belfry
It will probably be new completely siloed classes. They've said they're making c...
They never said it was classless. And they have used the word subclass in their media.
keen sigil
best for surge stunbot
arctic rampart
Too much of a bot for me. No way I'm helping other classes be even more OP compared to Psyker by reducing their ult reload lol.
static epoch
3 2 2 2 3 1 for damnation and surge
weak aspen
The chance to bb on hit, does it count every tick on every target with surge as a separate attack?
fallow meadow
I won't say the active skill is a ult lol.
clear light
Any tips on the Malleus Monstronum penance?
solemn harness
the dot counts as well
but 15s cd
theres a yt vid where buddy was showcasing it
weak aspen
Ye but pretty much guaranteed proc every 15 then
solemn harness
just randomly getting bbs all the time
weak aspen
Nice
solemn harness
im not quite there yet to try myself but ill be testing it once i have the perks
meager pulsar
Any tips on the Malleus Monstronum penance?
Get a group w shield ogryn. Find daemonhost
static epoch
Yeah that one is very easy if people comply
weak aspen
Any tips on the Malleus Monstronum penance?
Plague ogryn around a set of stairs with a railing so you can juke it's pathfinding
static epoch
And worst case scenario the other 2 guys have to hold of a horde
weak aspen
Wait the daemon host counts?
arctic rampart
Yep
clear light
Get a group w shield ogryn. Find daemonhost
static epoch
Yeah the host is a monstrosity
clear light
Holy he'll that would have been so much easier
Thinking the same thing
meager pulsar
Lmfao
weak aspen
Ah well
iron sundial
When using the lightning staff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOHKzhcTzY for those that don't know
velvet stratus
How to acquire the revolver?
weak aspen
Wait for it to appear in the shop
fallow meadow
level and some rng luck
weak aspen
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fallow meadow
How is the revolver. It seems kinda lame.
thick surge
satisfying to use but not really good
remote flume
iron sundial
Need the bolt staff from vt2
velvet stratus
Not that thing
errant delta
For Damnation level, is there a reason to play Psyker? I am lv30 full build and ach lv1 psyker but I feel that I do more damage ( with little less cc , but emenies die fast with nades ) with my sharshooter...
sharp oasis
For Damnation level, is there a reason to play Psyker? I am lv30 full build and ...
Surge to make it trivial.
But it isn't a very fun and engaging gameplay