psyker-class

[olive ember]

Would be cool but I want more content first

[teal cargo]

Does leveling up improve your stats at all?

[south monolith]

But it produces less actual toughness. Killing things for toughness is on demand too technically

[hallow needle]

i kinda want a comissar class

[teal cargo]

or just mlre access to weapons?

[hallow needle]

i want to live up to the likes of cain

[acoustic spade]

Well, you also get feats

[teal cargo]

Well sometimes you fighting a boss and cant kill em

[acoustic spade]

and feats make you more survivable / do more dmg as well

[teal cargo]

so no tougness for you

[acoustic spade]

depends on your toughness feats

[burnt python]

Yeah that is right, but there are scenarios where you don't have mobs to kill when you need regen (monstrosities)

[teal cargo]

and then you sad

[acoustic spade]

You could have the feat that gives you toughness on quelling peril

[teal cargo]

Yep then you happy

[spice oar]

what is flash? a missing gamemode?

[celest hedge]

which is the most versatile of the level 5 talents

[iron flame]

Alright lvl 30 hit on Psyker. Time to go be ogryn now.

🫂

[teal cargo]

No more psyker?

Its all ogre

[glad tulip]

I've seen so many articles about supposedly "working" crafting system, but it doesn't work at all beside upgrading, right?

[spice oar]

yeah

[iron flame]

Maybe when they buff BB because I want to be BBing in higher difficulty

[spice oar]

the key features wernt added for key release

you got the cash shop tho

[olive notch]

As a Veteran player
I want to thank you guys for marking out guys for us to shoot. It's always handy to have that little blue thing on their head to help aim!
We love you ❤️

[glad tulip]

Doesn't even work for me. On a loop with icon lmao

[teal cargo]

I thought we supposed to cc and block

[iron flame]

I want to be popping brains. Not be CC and tank gods

[naive quartz]

That's exactly what makes playing a Psyker not fun.

[south monolith]

Block is your friend

[spice oar]

me too sibling, me too

fatshark fix your game fs

[teal cargo]

Very convenient marking too

[burnt python]

that is entirely irrelevant to our conversation lol. and with peril blocking quietitude only gets stronger

[teal cargo]

😔

[teal cargo]

yea block and generate peril and then vents off giving toughness, you even happier

[burnt python]

if you aint gonna get hit you dont need any form of regen

[sinful stream]

I'd say the one that ally kills can give you warp charges it's so annoying to try and keep those stacks up with head bursts alone (imo)

[teal cargo]

sucks that gotta get to 20 before peril blocking

feels bad

[hallow needle]

yay error code 2006 again :D

time for another infinite loading screen

[teal cargo]

i feel like i crash a lot

[iron flame]

Yea you kinda want that in higher difficulty just because there is so many enemy so more chance for that thing to proc

[teal cargo]

like load into a game and then crash

[south monolith]

Specifically while killing ranged groups, toughness on kill generates more per voidstrike quick right click than quietude. This is where I find it is most necessary to generate more toughness than quietude can offer so that you don't bottom out of toughness and take hp damage.

[burnt python]

Yup, no argument here. It is situationally better - quietitude is the best all arounder (always useful)

[teal cargo]

I see but if you using mainly Purg, its hard to be killijg ranged anyways

[iron flame]

Cry in having to brain burst mass ranged one by one when your team all suck at ranged lul

[burnt python]

voidstrike gang

[hallow needle]

praise be upon the void staff

[teal cargo]

not enough veterans?

[hallow needle]

and ofcourse our holy emperor

[iron flame]

That happen to me when I was in low level on malics

[burnt python]

fyi when the annoying fuckers are hiding behind cover you can just blast said cover w/ charged void

[iron flame]

It happened yesterday. No veterans to be found

[teal cargo]

😔

3 ogre team

[zinc gorge]

4 Ogryn team

[hallow needle]

sad

[burnt python]

ngl i had a random 4 ogryn run and it was insanely fun

[iron flame]

Yea it was 3 ogryn and me who is on purg staff lol

[hallow needle]

show those ogryns what a psyker can do

[zinc gorge]

Indeed. I’ve seen videos lol

The banter is awesome

[burnt python]

also multiple grenade gauntlets or rumblers going off just keeps entire rooms on the floor, hilarious

[teal cargo]

get mowed down I guess oof

[acoustic spade]

ok someone just blew me off of the map with a barrel :<

[teal cargo]

yea whats with people always whacking barrels when they run by

[burnt python]

i look forward to the day i can play in a group with 3 voidstrikes & a surge

[teal cargo]

so when you catch up you get blasted

[acoustic spade]

trying to get the weekly mission of "3 misions with no player deaths" is impossible with pubbies

[little dawn]

do it on whatever tier 1 is

its boring, but its infinitely more likely to just happen by dumb luck

[teal cargo]

whats tier1?

[burnt python]

if you run deflector shield for ez resses you can force pubs thru it lol

[little dawn]

not uprising or malice but the difficulty below

[pale scarab]

Play sedition, carry team to victory, profit

[little dawn]

cant remember name xD

THIS^

[teal cargo]

ohh

[iron flame]

Lol that one was funny. The 3 ogryn just hide behind wall while I precharge BB and look out. Pop one and dodge back. Abuse the toughness per peril quelled to be full toughness afain

[teal cargo]

What difficulty to play at when leveling?

[little dawn]

whatever u are smashing in 20-25 mins

imo

[acoustic spade]

AAAAAA and then they managed to wipe to a Daemonhost

actually

[teal cargo]

you get more loot at higher difficulty right?

[uncut violet]

Malice is great for leveling once you get to around 10-15 and can play well. Most bang for your buck

[acoustic spade]

managed to get everyone killed with JUST a Daemonhost

[spice oar]

wish we could do challenges at any level without cheesing it

[pale scarab]

I found spamming 15 minute seditions to be the fastest but a 15 minute sedition is the same as a 30 minute malice

[spice oar]

speedrunning sedition is the best option

[little dawn]

maybe im just having bad luck on malice as my psyker

[pale scarab]

I wouldnt recommend malice while leveling though

[acoustic spade]

So I was waiting to be rezzed, and they triggered a Daemonhost before rescueing me

[teal cargo]

i see, im alwqys wandering around lost

no idea where to go on maps

[little dawn]

guess it depends on ur experience level and how comfortable u are with the toolkit

[topaz path]

Guys if i saw correctly on psyker gameplay, there are couple staffs with different skills? I'm sure i saw somewhere a lightning skill like Sith in Star wars 😮

[uncut violet]

I found Malice to be great for leveling the majority of the game, results my vary. Just play what feels fun for you and gets you enough XP that you think "yeah I can do this for awhile"

[acoustic spade]

then the Daemonhost killed one member of the party, with one falling off of the edge cause of the Daemonhost's knockback

[teal cargo]

Usually if I see high level people they can carry well

[wanton cove]

Yea! You can totally live out your Sith dreams in DT

[little dawn]

i just basically scout for uprising with scriptures and an easy modifier

[teal cargo]

but if its like all levels 1s and 2s pretty rough

[shadow quail]

do you need the deflect perk on force sword to tank a daemonhost with kinetic deflection

[acoustic spade]

While Daemonhost was executing his Victim, the one still alive dude decided to rescue me, and let the other dude fall to his death

[wanton cove]

It definitely gives with lightning vibes @topaz path

Sith*

[acoustic spade]

and then the Daemonhost fixated on me

[topaz path]

And what skill makes sword glow like it's buffed?

[acoustic spade]

and the dude that rescued me got knocked out of the map by the Daemonhost

so essentially

[wanton cove]

Force sword special ability

[acoustic spade]

we wiped to a Daemonhost

"Only kills two people"

right

[teal cargo]

ooof

At least cool cutscene with your corpses

and some guardsmen?

[icy harbor]

just kiled my first daemonhost, not as hard as it seems to be when you get 2 veterans and a psyker who blocks all hits

[solar remnant]

Is there a special lose cutscene to dh?

[shadow quail]

is his damage melee?

[burnt python]

apparently zealot can 2-3 shot the daemonhosts w/ thunder hammer or evisc

[acoustic spade]

Im just really tired of level2 missions failing cause people aggro daemonhosts

[signal turret]

Tried to block a Daemonhost with my FS in heresy and got shredded 😦

Mines must be busted lol

[wanton cove]

Yah plus instant kill animation on a downed player @shadow quail I think his hits also give corruption but maybe someone else can clarify that

[shadow quail]

Im wondering if you need the perk on sword

[burnt python]

ahaha thank you for your sacrifices for science

[signal turret]

I do have it, and the Kinetic Deflection feat lol

[acoustic spade]

You need the peril block feat

[signal turret]

Each hit was like ~20%

[teal cargo]

Yea if party wipe you see like all your corpses

[acoustic spade]

and dodge as much as possible

[teal cargo]

and I think some veterans standing over

[acoustic spade]

dont just stand there and try to tank it all

[solar remnant]

Oh that ya

[signal turret]

I always be dodging, I guess ill try it again

[teal cargo]

cos shoulda gone 4x Veterans

[novel badge]

you can't just block every hit, you have to dodge while blocking

[burnt python]

are you guys talking about heresy/damnation?

[frank chasm]

You quell block peril quick enough that if you can dodge block dodge it will be safe

[burnt python]

or did you test lower

[signal turret]

I was talking about heresy

[burnt python]

yeah asking the ppl who have done it successfully

[novel badge]

also the peril block feat stops once you hit critical peril, then it'll start consuming stamina

[acoustic spade]

I just got a full party wipe to a Daemonhost on lv2

[signal turret]

shots fired 😦

[novel badge]

so you get a lot of extra block

[burnt python]

i imagine difficulty makes a big difference

[burnt python]

o no not intended like that lmao 😦

[teal cargo]

ive had teams just be like lets split up gang

[olive ember]

Daemonhost only kills 2 people so if it looks like you won’t be able to deal with it just sacrifice the two idiots trying to kill it, run away, focus on other threats

[burnt python]

i am assuming these guys were on malice or something

[shadow quail]

Most groups seem to just avoid the thing XD

[teal cargo]

Daemonhost knocked 2 people off the map

[signal turret]

Need to do some things irl so i'll try it again in a bit on heresy for science

[olive ember]

Yeah there’s no reason to kill it besides the achievement

[wanton cove]

Problem is in pubs a random will always trip over a dh 🤣 and by the time ppl realize the situation one persons dead hahaha

[teal cargo]

Randoms want to bonk the DH

[zinc gorge]

Most of the time the AI Director spawns it in a location where you can go around.

[shadow quail]

Yeah, just got it last match but 2 died

[hallow needle]

imagine playing a class that needs ammo

[burnt python]

yeah i should probably go finish my actual work.. fuckin darktide consuming my brain

[royal granite]

has anyone does any testing on whether warp charges can get brain burst past any damage break points on killing elites/specials?

[burnt python]

not my work, just sharing before i go: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z7vxbi/psykers_bb_and_charges_the_numbers_tell_you_that/

[royal granite]

thanks

[pale scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1048319887568805938/image.png

[south monolith]

About 40% block efficiency lets you tank t4 Daemonhost pretty easy just keep dodging and use your special ability when your stam starts to get tapped. For T5 daemonhosts you need extra stam and stam regen. This is with kinetic deflection fyi.

[pale scarab]

alternatively just run kinetic deflection and hold block

[royal granite]

so mostly warp charges don't make a big difference huh

[zinc gorge]

What level 25 feat do you guys run?

[frail geyser]

They can for breakpoints with shit like the mkV axe in lvl5 stuff

And they do if you have the tough on wc gain feat

[echo parrot]

Battery.

[royal granite]

i've been running flayer but i'm reconsidering

[formal ether]

oh hey they fixed the imerium edition psyker chest

[pale scarab]

psychic communion + kinetic flayer keeps me at 4 stacks the whole mission almost

[frank cairn]

This list doesn't take into account different damage on different armour types, so it's kinda pointless
It also gets all hp slightly wrong pmuch

[royal granite]

i noticed i can pop a bulwark in 2 bursts on less than 5 charges yeah, so it's not quite accurate

[zinc gorge]

That’s my dilemma. Kinetic Flayer is nice. Keeps my stacks topped. Is the extra 6% damage truly worth spending 6 extra seconds plus all of that other time swapping to BB to refresh stacks?

[echo parrot]

What was wrong with it in the first place?

[naive quartz]

I'm a little bit worried about the Quietitude perk. I feel like I'd be spending more time quelling than fighting. Any thoughts?

[bold maple]

no

[echo parrot]

What do both of those do again?

[royal granite]

i am starting to think it's not worth it to bother with warp charges at all

[eager nexus]

I've been running Kinetic Overload since Ascendant Blaze gives that 10% chance to gain a warp charge on kill with soulfire.

[zinc gorge]

I do the same if I’m running Purg too ;)

[candid temple]

starting to?

[icy harbor]

You can pretty much keep 6 warp charges constantly with the flame thrower staff (and the right skills) which is an 18% damage increase. Idk what the issue is

[pale scarab]

communion is a 4% chance to make a charge stack when someone kills something when in coherency, flayer is a 10% chance to proc brain burst on any damage except soulflame dot ticks

[royal granite]

because psyker either overkills or needs a bunch of extra time to kill, and warp charges don't make much impact on that

[eager nexus]

Yep, I love that the fire can basically continually propagate with Wrack and Ruin

[echo parrot]

Ahh gotcha.

[zinc gorge]

It’s a 6% damage increase. 6x3 versus 4x3.

[echo parrot]

I might try that combo for a bit and see how I roll.

[hallow needle]

all i read was flamethrower staff and now i am interested

[eager nexus]

Flamethrower staff is disgusting with the right perks.

I use it ALL the time.

[burnt python]

idk feels pretty bad to me lol

[iron sundial]

Man I sure do enjoy playing psyker much prefer it to Sienna for some reason lol

[zinc gorge]

To me…. Warp Charges are nice, but I feel that stopping the flow of combat to BB actually decreases net dps.

[hallow needle]

dont think i got it unlocked yet what level?

[icy harbor]

Shoot big white flame out of hands
Enemies go uusuduxjdksjxhdjs

Profit

[echo parrot]

Every single time I roll the flame staff, I end up getting fucked by ranged enemies.

[royal granite]

i prefer either the cc from surge or the ability to headshot at range from voidstrike

[burnt python]

there are very few scenarios where purge feels better than other staves

[gray quarry]

I've done it siblings

[eager nexus]

I think I got my first fire staff at level 13?

[burnt python]

void fills the same role at infinite range

[hallow needle]

right now i shoot a nice compact ball of death into a horde

[royal granite]

champion

[echo parrot]

Grats! I am so jealous!

[teal needle]

Warp charges are not worth actively keeping up, the time investment on a small damage boost that usually doesn't affect any major ttk thresholds is insanely bad. But you can keep them up passively fairly well

[shadow quail]

I like the surge with animation cancel

[hallow needle]

i am contemplating buying the psyker outfit from the store

just for the chest piece

[coarse ether]

hey guys, psyker sucks?

[gray quarry]

I got a shield ogryn friend to help and found a daemonhost in a room we cleared

[hallow needle]

but the currency prices are so annoying

[icy harbor]

That one is also nice. But the flame staff, together with the second level 30 perk basically guarantees full stacks most of the time

[echo parrot]

Git gud

[royal granite]

nah psyker is fantastic, the feats are just messy

[warm meteor]

they said they fixed toughness

[eager nexus]

The souls out of the enemy

[gray quarry]

Head piece clips ;c

[hallow needle]

i dont use headpieces atm

gotta have fashion

[inland sphinx]

'ello, I am shield ogryn, spark head force me to anger demon head, very scary

[hallow needle]

gotta become high inquisitor someday

[shadow quail]

it looks like a toilet seat anyway

[burnt python]

psyker is fantastic in the complete opposite role it's advertised as

excellent horde clear/control

[coarse ether]

I just made a 30lv psyker, but it's so hard to get the gears I want. should I just pick up a gun?

[hallow needle]

can a psyker even become high inquisitor?

[iron sundial]

Just like the Ultramarines insignia

[hallow needle]

smurfs

[warm meteor]

yes

[royal granite]

psyker is the best crowd control class in the game right now, surge staff is incredible, stuns everything

[hallow needle]

gooooood

[warm meteor]

lots of inquisitors have psychic abilities

[wild mist]

I took a bit of time today to think up what a 2nd psyker class would look like and posted it on Reddit.
Take a look if you want. I think it'd be fun to play! https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zawau7/new_class_psyker_fiend/

[pine flax]

Eisenhorn amongst the most famous

[echo parrot]

I used a recon lasgun for the longest time until I got a good voidstaff. You make do with what you have until you have what you need.

[iron sundial]

All Grey Knights are Psykers

[hallow needle]

lord inquisitor Maxine

[warm meteor]

its super common, in fact they even have their own psychic discipline

[royal granite]

both eisenhorn and ravenor were psykers

[white sky]

I believe it's more normal for Inquisitors to be Psykers then not, if the models with rules are anything to go off

[ornate hamlet]

this games gonna be extremly heavy on paying for cosmetics and not earning them hey?

[zinc gorge]

I can confirm. Purg Staff + 2nd level 30 is max stacks within seconds. 2nd lvl 25 continues to pour on stacks on elites during waves. Basically lets a Psyker solo clear any horde with any combination of melee elites/specialists and your party only needs to kill ranged/watch your 6.

[ornate hamlet]

Would be nice to have a system like vermintide 2 where u can earn the stuff

[iron sundial]

So pretty much a tonne of Psykers being used by the Inquistion

[royal granite]

idk there's a lot of earned cosmetics in the game right now, feels pretty good

[shadow quail]

you can earn some

[hallow needle]

makes sense really

[tepid nest]

Psykers are also better at 2nd row melee than I hear people giving credit for. I see too many Psykers just do ranged, or even worse just use Brain Blast.

[warm meteor]

psykers can read minds. it makes it alot easier to find cults

[ornate hamlet]

no there isnt there literally one list per class

[burnt python]

agreed, psyker has very very good melee options

[hallow needle]

oh please inquisitors dont need that

[icy harbor]

hmmm, I haven't thought about that one. i always pick the 6 stacks

but sounds good

[hallow needle]

they jsut assume there is a cult and exterminatus

job done

[cloud gulch]

You can earn some cosmetics from completing some of the "achievements". Forget exactly what they're called in game.

[iron sundial]

Psykers also can be very damn powerful individuals

[hallow needle]

the emperor is one

[iron sundial]

Emperor big boy psyker after all

[royal granite]

there are multiple head, chest, and leg pieces per class, idk what you're talking about

[warm meteor]

that IS the meme but lets be honest only karamazov and a handful are like that haha

[hallow needle]

hehe

[ornate hamlet]

theres 1 head piece for psykers

[hallow needle]

fyodperor

[teal needle]

Psyker is just not as good at clearing hordes in melee. They can do elites almost as well as others in melee but they definitely are only second fiddle in melee

[iron sundial]

Also Magnus the Nerd big time Psyker

[warm meteor]

thats not canon

[acoustic spade]

Ok why

[burnt python]

kinetic flayer is very strong with staves that don't trigger it (aka void) because you can "bank" the charge and nearly guaruntee a proc w/ force special on a mauler or whatever

[hallow needle]

it is in my dreams

[royal granite]

there's 3

[acoustic spade]

every single mission Ive done that has had a Daemonhost

[tepid nest]

What melee weapons do you run rn? I haven't used many of the axes or the chainsaw sword thing.

[acoustic spade]

has also triggered the Daemonhost

[eager nexus]

There is more if you check the cosmetic store.

[burnt python]

mk V dueling is my current favorite, force sword very good in its role, trying the mk V combat axe tonight

[eager nexus]

at least 6 right now.

[hallow needle]

i require that hood

[ornate hamlet]

like i said earned ones. games gonna be heavy asf on paying for cosmetics

[hallow needle]

i want a techpriest look

[royal granite]

the penances for the second and third headpieces don't show up until the first one is beaten

[tepid nest]

Lmk how your axe testing goes if you get a chance 🙂

[burnt python]

others here have raved about it so excited to try

[eager nexus]

btw this helmet is stupid and I hate it. They need to fix it and here's why.

[royal granite]

ouch

[safe mountain]

Warp Charges really should give a higher damage boost per stack. Maybe something like 5% and double for warp damage.

[warm meteor]

perfect, showing off the psykers ability to phase thru solid objects

[royal granite]

idk, i feel like pure damage % is kind of a boring thing for warp charges to do

[burnt python]

any warp charge dmg bonuses are essentially irrelevant if they don't let BB reach better break points

[icy harbor]

that would be 30% overall damage boost just from charges

sounds bit to much

[zinc gorge]

I think the damage of warp stacks is fine.

[jolly spear]

For clarification, with the feat that lets you consume peril instead of stamina when blocking; once you are at 100% peril does it start consuming stamina instead or can you just not block until you quell your peril?

[hallow needle]

sad store not selling a single staff

[arctic rampart]

Except base damage of a lot of Psyker kit is really, really low.

[icy harbor]

just go for a CC psyker

don't need much damage for that

[arctic rampart]

Would be nice to have options....

[warm meteor]

just do a bonk staff build

[orchid dirge]

so close, yet so far

[arctic rampart]

Not supposed to be a CC class.

[eager nexus]

Fire CC. Stagger everything while killing everything

[icy harbor]

please kill a beast of nurgle on highest difficulty by simply hitting it with the staff

😛

[burnt python]

fire doesn't cc nearly as well on high difficulty as ppl here would have you blieve

[hallow needle]

what does finesse do?

[zinc gorge]

I wouldn’t mind 5 more seconds for them lasting and a tiny bump for the base damage of BB in some way so it is slightly more viable in T4/5. Not by much, I understand that T4/5 are meant to be tougher.

[warm meteor]

they should make that a new penance

[eager nexus]

Helpful tip, inspect your weapon with V and mouse over the stats on the left

It gives a FULL breakdown of what it does

[hallow needle]

thank you

[teal needle]

Psyker does good damage just not to elites or enemy ranged units compared to vet. Psyker can murder mixed blobs of units several different ways without switching weapons

[royal granite]

increases attack speed and makes crits/weak spot hits stronger, according to the in game description

[warm meteor]

i guess today ill try to grind to level 20 today

[eager nexus]

Tell that to the Electric staff

[signal spruce]

and instantly kill a lot of big bois

[frail geyser]

'It has lots of cc!' I yell as 4 ogryns and 3 ragers beat my ass while charging.

[royal granite]

voidstrike is decent at killing ranged

[warm meteor]

is it true that diff 2 is best for experience?

[burnt python]

3 is better if you aren't failing

[frail geyser]

They just buffed exp and gold for 3 and up

Idk how it maths out uet

[shadow quail]

more resources too

[teal needle]

Surge staff is electing to bring the difficulty down a level by sacrificing all fun

[burnt python]

its like 70 something missions to max at 2, 50 something at 3

[open pike]

Yeah I saw the hotfix mention more EXP for higher missions, don't know how big the change is

[pale scarab]

difficulty 1 is best, 3s if you're successful every single time

[burnt python]

50 something at 3 is using old numbers too, not buffed xp

[warm meteor]

is their a way to tell how many missions ive done?

[eager nexus]

Like total or of each type?

[warm meteor]

total

[burnt python]

look at mission penances tab and do some math

[eager nexus]

Not even

[tropic halo]

what penguin said

[warm meteor]

okay, cuz i feel like by your numbers i should be maxed but im level 18

[eager nexus]

go to penances, missions, and look for Atoman Auxilia

[frail geyser]

Not having to watch scrubs who cant dodge eat crusher overheads to the face all the time is p fun

[burnt python]

i am repeating someone elses numbers, they may be off, and likely assume 0 failur rate

[ornate hamlet]

this is why i quit being a psyker main the kit does not flow well at all

[hard breach]

Opinions?

[warm meteor]

ive failed 2 missions in my career so far so i should be gud on that

[teal needle]

Watching scrubs who can't dodge eat crusher overheads to face all the time is also kinda fun though

[formal ether]

the cloth was clipping through the exterior metal details, hiding them

[echo parrot]

Tonight shall be another night of my futility of trying to obtain max drip in a public game via soling a monstrosity.

[pale scarab]

1s give 1900 xp, 2s give 2000, 3s give 3100, if you try and level in 3s you're probably trolling your team mates, and I've found I can finish 1s about 5-10 minutes faster than 2s

[echo parrot]

My life is pain

[tepid nest]

It seems like there's a lot more room to experiment on Psyker builds than I anticipated. I'm going to be trying some wacky things now that I have a very solid foundation on force sword/staff

[subtle linden]

[warm meteor]

trolling my team mates? like i should be a higher level to be useful?

[burnt python]

appears that you can play psyker just about any way except for how its clearly intended lol

[tropic halo]

I tried the axe, a little slow for me, but it seems viable enough. Great damage even with just m1.

[warm meteor]

my one mission i did on 3 i ended up having the least downs, so i felt pretty good about it

[tepid nest]

Painfully true

[pale scarab]

the difficulty of 3s is a bigger step up than from 1 to 2

[teal needle]

Leveling in 3 is fine past like level 10-15. It's like champion difficulty in vt2, two halfway decent people can carry it

[left mirage]

why does the force sword push generate peril

[south monolith]

What way are we supposed to play?

[subtle linden]

a vet told me brainburst is op while he killed 7 ragers in a clip of his boltgun

[left mirage]

did not realize that was a change post-beta

that fuckin sucks

[teal needle]

To power up your force weapon damage

[left mirage]

i could just staff

[eager nexus]

I like the axe more now that I'm starting to do higher level stuff. Being able to kill the scabs in 1 or 2 reg melee hits (I've only done a Heresy difficulty once) as opposed to 6+ heavy swings with other weapons is nice.

[echo parrot]

Only the follo up push generate peril, not the regular push

[warm meteor]

okay so ive got 40 missions under my belt, all of which were diff2 with one diff 3

[orchid dirge]

and when a horde aproached him he just used his power sword to clear the horde like wheat

[left mirage]

wdym follow up push

the push attack?

[warm meteor]

so 50 mission is a low ball for max level

[burnt python]

definitely seems like those numbers i shared are off then

[echo parrot]

There are two parts of it, there is the push, and the the follow up that actually knocks people to the ground.

[candid temple]

you need like 125k? xp for 30

[forest meadow]

Bruh I have just about had it with this Shitty Pick'N'Mix Penance. I would fire whichever idiot thought of the idea. Honestly just thinking of deleting this shit with the penance.

[tepid nest]

Wait, force sword push generates peril again? Did I misread chat?

[candid hawk]

i got to 30 on 3 charatcers in about 50 missions each

[echo parrot]

No, the push does not, the follow up does.

[candid temple]

it does when you heavy push

[left mirage]

so yeah, the push attack

that sucks ngl

[warm meteor]

was all your runs at level 3?

[tepid nest]

Wtf is heavy push?? Have I been missing a mechanic??

[open pike]

I'm glad that no matter if you prefer using the Void, Surge, or Purge, we can all be disappointed in the Trauma staff equally

[frail geyser]

The push is the godlike part

[candid hawk]

not all but from level 10-15 and above was all malice

[candid temple]

you block and click left click once, it does light push

[echo parrot]

In early POB both the push AND the follow up generated peril, so it was worse

[tropic halo]

the trauma in trauma staff is the trauma you go through trying to use it in t3 and above

[candid temple]

if you hold push you push harder

[frail geyser]

The pushattack isnt as useful, doesnt hit as many enemies

[burnt python]

those are "push" and "push attack" respectively

[icy harbor]

TRAUMA STAFF is so useless

[tepid nest]

I am enlightened.

[left mirage]

jesus

[warm meteor]

the force swords push attack does a heavier push instead of a normal push attack

[frail geyser]

I actually didnt mind it cus the push was fucking massive

[serene stone]

t

[warm meteor]

its single target, but knocks enemies down

[candid temple]

doesn't feel like an attack tbh

[left mirage]

ah, so they didnt nerf the range then

[burnt python]

someone earlier was talkin up his well rolled trauma staff, will have to give it another go

[orchid dirge]

good luck

[tropic halo]

🫂 stay strong, sibling

[frail geyser]

They did

[serene stone]

I'll need it

[frail geyser]

That was part of why it costs no peril now

[burnt python]

fair lol

[left mirage]

yeah post launch

[warm meteor]

if someone shoved you violently to the ground you would prolly feel attacked irl

[echo parrot]

Showing off you Monstronum success, making me cry

[tepid nest]

Peril gain is good on force sword though, this makes me happy.

[frail geyser]

Cus they nerfed the range of the push

It still ignores hit mass

[serene stone]

Monstronum is easy with a premade

[frail geyser]

So its v good

[left mirage]

but was the range of the push the same in POD vs closed beta?

[candid temple]

I mean compared to other push attacks

[left mirage]

pob*

[worn canopy]

If you don’t have deflect on a force sword just use cutlass

[echo parrot]

Correction, Monstronum is easy with a premade that is actually able to stay alive and kite.

[warm meteor]

hehe i know

[steady beacon]

got the drip \o/

[warm meteor]

just joshing ya

[eager nexus]

Now call me insane, but can someone verify if I was wrong when I thought I saw a streamer casting warp lightning using the force sword?

[echo parrot]

I love playing with my friends, but they have issues staying alive on 3s let alone 4s

[serene stone]

I got it by kiting it alone, rest of the team did hold of hordes though

[left mirage]

visual bug

[serene stone]

am jealous

[warm meteor]

oh snap you really do, the most dripped up of nerds. we dont got a water staff but them enemies still gonna drown on god

[left mirage]

when you swap to sword after surge charged attack it does that

very cool

[tropic halo]

fr fr

[sly marsh]

goggle is good

[echo parrot]

You got lucky then, it doesnt always stay locked ontu you when trying to kite it. I would kill for a premade that would let me attempt it that I dont have to hold their hands all the time.

[tropic halo]

penance psyker gear kinda looks like techpriest stuff tbh

[radiant jolt]

🥽

[tropic halo]

seriously why are we still lacking so much outfits, the CBT bugs revealed so much more headgear and outfits

[serene stone]

How I did it was just a small barricade where you can keep going in circles with dodge, the dodge nerf wasnt in yet though.

[burnt python]

$$$$

[midnight kiln]

Is pick n mix fixed?

[serene stone]

was it ever broken?

It stops showing your best attempt as far as Ive heard

to avoid confusion

[midnight kiln]

Its always stuck at 0/5, yesterday i did it but i never been rewarded

[stray cipher]

Like a good drug dealer they gotta dole out the outfits a little at a time to keep you hooked

[eager nexus]

Honestly I'll worry harder about cosmetic stuff when they can fix ALL of the random crashing issues. I haven't had one since the hotfix today but I'm not holding my breath for the entirety of the day.

[serene stone]

cosmetics are bottom of priorities ye lol

[tropic halo]

if this game's gonna be a mess i wanna look like a hot mess at least

[radiant jolt]

cool hats > stable gameplay

[tropic halo]

i wanna crash and disconnect in style

[echo parrot]

Honestly dont care about the hoods that much because I like to see my wallmart witcher asthetic. I really want the Monstrunum drip though.

[tropic halo]

ask people in here for help. i'll help people, even though i havent done it myself yet

[echo parrot]

I dont really wanna ask people in here for help because people in here likely also want to do the same exact thing lol

[radiant jolt]

Honestly if you get a cool group in pubs they might just let you, all of my attempts for it were in pubs and after I asked if I could solo at the start they were all ike "yeah sure"

[tropic halo]

we must plant the trees we'll never get to rest the shade under.

[echo parrot]

This is the psyker chat after all

[eager nexus]

My favorite experience that caused a crash was my first run in with a Daemonhost. It did that float into the air menacingly thing, teleported to a teammate with that bright green flash it does, and then my game got WONKY. The world got distorted, enemies were running through me and ignored my attacks, objects were floating wistfully through the air and I lost all visuals on my display. I thought the Daemonhost was taking my mind on a trip through the warp before the game booted me. 10/10, would want to experience it again.

[cyan echo]

A few days ago I had low fps and dips, today i can play on max with great framerate.
My mind has expanded!

[tacit fractal]

Which one though

[mild lotus]

Worst shop roll ever

[royal granite]

we should make some kind of monstronum death pact; group up and run 4s until everyone has it

...is what i would say if i was still in my 20s

[tropic halo]

next time you wanna do it and im around, ask. i'll help. you'll need two more

[echo parrot]

Flat global damage is better imho

[forest meadow]

I DID IT FINALLY PICKNMIX!?!?!?

[burnt python]

i prefer mk v moveset

[echo parrot]

Well thanks. Ill keep that in mind.

[tacit fractal]

Imma try mk v

[mild lotus]

what's stopping you now?

[eager nexus]

But the POTENTIAL of getting a great weapon via upgrades is there. Look for a weapon with a high base rating. It's how I got my current purge staff.

[royal granite]

i need my naps

[tropic halo]

i'm a big fan of the mkv. the right click does way more extra damage but you dont really slow down your attacks

[fringe summit]

buy or not buy ?

[royal granite]

deflector is dope

[burnt python]

i'd personally wait for one w/ better base stats

its still good tho

[tropic halo]

i would get it

[echo parrot]

I would buy

[tropic halo]

it can take WEEKS for another power sword with deflector to pop up

i havent seen one to this day for me

[iron flame]

Buy it and wait til crafting is done then you can move blessing to new one

[mild lotus]

you could buy to have the blessings "stored" for later, when crafting will be fully implemented

[fringe summit]

yeah thats what i m thinking too

almost got 5k so why not

[tropic halo]

hopefully the crafting system updates soon but a force sword with deflector is a game changer.

[burnt python]

yeah if you got the currency to spare might as well

[cedar grove]

Anyone willing to help with getting "Going out with a bang"

[mild lotus]

if only it was the warp resist that was low...

[burnt python]

that's still p damn good, force sword is less reliant on finesse than other weps cus of warp dmg

[mild lotus]

finess also impacts swing speed

[burnt python]

unless special dmg is impacted by finesse and i'm unaware

[lilac summit]

people are straight up saying no and refusing to allow me get a solo monstrosity kill on a low-intensity heresy mission...

[mild lotus]

I want to go sweesh swoosh

[tropic halo]

i'll help.

[burnt python]

you're looking at the wrong wep altogether then 😛

[echo parrot]

Bruh..

[eager nexus]

Your name is so mean lmao

[steady beacon]

Pick n' Mix is functioning as intended, just keep at it, it's a tedious penance

[mild lotus]

sweesh swoosh

[echo parrot]

If it was endless horde I would understand, but low intensity is like why

[serene stone]

luck or secret strat?

[lilac summit]

one of them told me to do it on a diff 1 mission instead lol

[cedar grove]

That's 1, anyone else? Just need to round up 3 elites and let me kill myself

[forest meadow]

4 Man, 1 Vet, 2 Og's. Waited until 4 gunners and 1 bombers

[steady beacon]

Assassination mission w/ the massive bridge, shoot down the bridge, and don't drop down, wait until 5 rack up, then brain burst after vet gives you volley reveal

[burnt python]

wait so they don't have to be differentspecials/elites as the text says?

[forest meadow]

Nope just 5 Elites

[burnt python]

so much more reasonable

[stuck bridge]

hello fellow copers

[forest meadow]

All I need is 25 more games and ill have done all penances.

[wet gust]

Which melee weapon is the best for Psyker?

[sturdy nymph]

Sure, if you let me do the same right after

[stuck bridge]

has any one figured out any builds to make psyker fun in 4+? surge staff does not count*

[eager nexus]

Well of course. You'd be cheating if you killed the same elite 5 times in a row.

[teal needle]

Depends on what you want to do with your melee weapon but general force sword or dueling sword

[rapid cypress]

i can join in a bit. Farquaad in game

[wet gust]

For now I'm lvl 5 and testing things ^^

[teal needle]

That's just called lag

[cedar grove]

For everyone wanting to help with "Going Out with a Bang", I'm in LFG channel 34

[teal needle]

At level 5 I like the sword because you're stuck with guns for like 10 more levels and could use a horde option

If your have an autogun axe is nice

Honestly I like ax at every level

[teal cargo]

Ax and autogun?

[candid temple]

I can't like axe.

because it reminds me of dual az.

[teal cargo]

axe feels so weird sometimes

[candid temple]

and that we don't have dual az

[eager nexus]

Does anyone else have the issue for the weekly quest to kill 750 dregs with ranged where it doesn't count your staff kills? Or is that intentional to make psykers use something other than a staff?

[candid temple]

which staff you're using?

worked for me with surge

[eager nexus]

I was using surge last time I checked and no progress

[wet gust]

Which sword? Power or Duelling?

[eager nexus]

same with purge

[burnt python]

thats just weeklies being bugged and not progressing, not relating to staves

[stoic pendant]

Try voidstrike

[burnt python]

it counts your entire teams ranged kills not just your own

so if no progress, it's just bugged

[analog sable]

Ok so I just make a psyker after playing all other classes to 30....You guys only get 100 TOUGHNESS?!?!!?

[tender cipher]

GOD F can more people karking queue up for heresy ffs

[analog sable]

i thought you had 300 or some shit

[eager nexus]

Is that confirmed?

[tender cipher]

LOL

[burnt python]

Yes, but unclear whether intentional

[teal needle]

Devils claw I think it's called? I didn't even know you got force sword at level 5 haha

[candid temple]

lol

you don't need any really.

[stoic pendant]

Just hide behind ogryn

[candid temple]

because you can become a biotic god with voidstaff or palpatine with surge staff

[fresh reef]

Damnation is even worse

Nigh unplayable rn

[iron flame]

In chasm raid mission alone right now. Where do I stay for easy cliffhanger?

[eager nexus]

Near a bridge

[burnt python]

go thru the arch on big bridge and hang a left

[teal needle]

You get like 50 toughness back every time you shoot a void staff. Like a zealot ult every .75 seconds

[analog sable]

You'd be surprised. Vermintide 2 had reportidly most activity in veteran(difficulty 2) with a bit less in Champion (tier 3) and about 10% to like 2% pushing above that.

[hallow needle]

is this jsut bugged?

[tender cipher]

If i have to wait for more than 10 seconds I throw tantrum. A psychic tantrum.

[burnt python]

No, it just records your best attempt within a 2s window

[hallow needle]

i knocked an entire horde off the map once though

[iron flame]

Time to afk and pray a horde come I gjssz

[fresh reef]

Wait they nerfed cliffhanger? Lmao

[eager nexus]

THEY NERFED IT?

It was 20 when I got it!

[analog sable]

7

[iron flame]

It is risk 2 sadly

[analog sable]

now.

[burnt python]

today? it was workin fine yesterday, patch today may have bugged it

[teal needle]

They nerfed it so hard I got it automatically logging in

[fresh reef]

Hell yeah

[eager nexus]

It wasn't even THAT difficult

[hallow needle]

i just want the fashion :(

[eager nexus]

lame

[summer prairie]

I got 20 without trying, just playing normally

[burnt python]

that is impressive

[fresh reef]

I got 20 after DC'ing in the middle of a horde lol

[orchid dirge]

Legend started to actually demand skill

Ironic that those lobbies were actually the most fun, high difficulties were so intense

[hallow needle]

what enemies are considered monstrosities?

[eager nexus]

My mother

[rare lintel]

Also my mother.

[summer prairie]

2 random bosses, level bosses, daemonhost

[ornate hamlet]

Wait till you see what we had to do for pre release beta 20. And no, it isn't.

[orchid nest]

if you're asking for malleus the easiest way is shield ogryn tanking a daemonhost

[hallow needle]

great so i gotta basically solo one on highest difficulty?

just for a chest piece

[iron flame]

Yes.

[radiant jolt]

It's easier than it sounds

[lilac summit]

it's easy, if you have teammates willing to support you soloing it

[ornate hamlet]

It wasn't actually that hard with a friend group they all took aggro for me and kept the hordes that came at me away while I ran from nurgle beast

[analog sable]

IO played nothing but legend, best diff

[teal needle]

Daemonhost takes like 40 seconds and a helpful ogryn to get the chievo

[cyan echo]

just get an ogryn with the shield to aggro it

[radiant jolt]

You either Kite or have ogryn friend with shield

[iron flame]

Cry in no friend

[teal needle]

Legend was my favorite difficulty to pug. Cataclysm was fun with good friends

[hallow needle]

i dont have an ogryn buddy :(

[radiant jolt]

Time to kite

[brave vale]

is this worth it?

[radiant jolt]

trauma 🤮

[eager nexus]

^

[iron flame]

I pubbed legend but eh... Feel like heresy is a no go for me right now. Not going to touch that BS until I got my build going

[lilac summit]

base stats are really bad, and trauma staff sucks

[eager nexus]

However, the soulblaze blessing might make it worth it.

[teal needle]

280 base stats not worth buying

[orchid dirge]

is heresy still bugged?

[eager nexus]

if only to keep so you can transfer it to another staff when crafting is fully implemented.

[orchid nest]

I liked doing legend with bots, hopefully the ones here get good enough one day for heresy.

[warm meteor]

i keep getting alot of crashes

[summer prairie]

bots are very bad

[brave vale]

ty guys

[radiant jolt]

peri are you at lvl 30 yet

[summer prairie]

the fact you can't even set them up how you like doesn't help

[radiant jolt]

cause if that's from the weekly shop that's really low

[orchid dirge]

it is from weekly shop

[brave vale]

nope, im level 24

[radiant jolt]

I didnt / wouldn't touch weekly shop till capped

[brave vale]

okay, sounds good

[safe raven]

their mothers

[eager nexus]

Definitely wait til 30. This is in my shop for comparison

[brave vale]

I want electric staff right? and void staff

sheeesh

[radiant jolt]

Void, Surge, and Purge are all good

for various reasons

[echo parrot]

Pretty much anything that isnt trauma is viable, its just a matter of what you feel most effective with

[eager nexus]

The only thing Trauma can do better than other staffs is hitting enemies behind waist high cover

[teal needle]

You want to buy items with higher base stats to raise the base stats available to you. I get items with base stats 370-380 through the regular shop now

Literally 70%+ in every single stat

[ornate hamlet]

Whats the best lvl 5 feat for leveling on psyker?

[steady beacon]

Void - Good for Horde clearing
Surge - Stun Utility (Strong CC)
Purge - Seems to be mostly theorycrafting, requires balance patch for Heresy / Damnation to be effective
Trauma - Not Viable / Ineffective

[eager nexus]

My biggest mistake with the Requisitorium was trying the mystery acquisitions for the curios once. I got super lucky with this and spent all my currency last week trying for more lucky rolls instead of saving it for stuff I knew was available to me.

[hallow needle]

my psyker just made fun of how the zealot talks

i love it

[warm meteor]

if my game crashes one more time im building my models instead i swear

[teal needle]

Love the psyker correcting the zealots high Gothic. One of the funniest convos

[brave vale]

What are the talent builds that everyone is using?

[steady beacon]

I'd say quell to gain your toughness back [5% for every 10% quelled], but killing with warp attack [Gain 10% toughness per kill] (ie any staff projectile, charged force sword, or brain burst) is also quite viable if you primary use your staff for mob clearing

[gritty merlin]

222323

[radiant jolt]

Every time I hear the Foreshortened Lives / 4 shortened lives line I just imagine the VO in the booth giving that and it makes me chuckle

[eager nexus]

I'm using 331322

[steady beacon]

This sounds like a flame staff user?

[eager nexus]

[steady beacon]

Hopefully they adjust your playstyle, it needs love

[warm meteor]

my staff keeps crashing my game i swear

[eager nexus]

Yeah, it doesn't do much justice against elites, unfortunately.

[unkempt juniper]

i've said it before, i'll say it again: fire staff does more dmg to my framerate than the enemy.

[steady beacon]

At least left click acts as a minor stagger for some enemies, but the peril rate is just too harsh, and the secondary action leaves the user wanting so much more

[glacial abyss]

use Surge staff

[icy harbor]

366 seems pretty nice

[steady beacon]

Surge meta is already known

[unkempt juniper]

void meta>surge meta

except on damnation

[steady beacon]

^

[glacial abyss]

not even about meta just goes hard.

[unkempt juniper]

it works wonders on heresy

[ruby garden]

trying to do "out with a bang" is making me want to slam my head into the corner of my desk

[glacial sluice]

Trauma meta is for real gamers

[glacial abyss]

true lol

[unkempt juniper]

do that enough and you would go out with a bang

[steady beacon]

I low key wanna see someone actually make trauma work, but seems like you'd need a god roll for every slot xD

[ruby garden]

it's so frustrating

[steady beacon]

If the dmg fall off wasn't so staggering maybe it'd be ok

[ruby garden]

just.. just make peril 1 shot elites on malice

[teal needle]

Surge is baby damage, I wish for 20 things to drop dead when I left click to give me full toughness at the cost of -20% peril

[ruby garden]

that would make this 1000 times easier

the fact I have to get my team not to kill them, then gently reduce them to half hp

and THEN, not die to what tends to be 3 maulers trying to murder me

so I can blow myself up

and then it can be hard sometimes to make your peril go up fast

[steady beacon]

For damnation & heresy w/ SC, it's somewhat mandatory to have a surge staff (no one with surge cares about dmg, just keeping your team alive and managing the flow of the fight)

[teal needle]

Heresy is fine with void, agree on damnation tho

[ruby garden]

I need a VC'd up group with ogryn shields or something

so they can corral these guys

[hallow wave]

out with a bang is easier on damnation just because of the density of mobs

[eager nexus]

Needing specific builds/communication seems like something to expect on the hardest difficulty of a left 4 dead type game.

[steady beacon]

I have a love for the void, but ye Heresy w/ Hi-Int can be a lil dicey with only void

[ruby garden]

man I can't even do levels on heresy let alone damnation

feels like a bit of a dick move to go into those just so I can die

[teal needle]

High intensity is basically +1 difficulty level

[ruby garden]

but then the penance is already making me commit suicide repeatedly

[steady beacon]

Level up your gearscore, and play it safe everywhere ya go

[hallow wave]

thats how i did it

dif 4 or higher

[ruby garden]

I want the out with a bang penance

I don't care about the difficulty

[hallow wave]

four man though so i wasnt throwing

[ruby garden]

I just need 3 things to fall dead from a peril explosion

[hallow wave]

Right im just saying the spawns for an explosion are easier on the higher difficulty

[hallow needle]

i love this lol

[steady beacon]

Sewer assassination, the dropdown pipe area that bends to the left, you can usually get a good cluster of mobs to blow up on

[ruby garden]

by the time I get the bloody thing I'll be level 30 already

[gray quarry]

I recommend a shieldy boi for penance help tbh

Perils one and Malleus

[ruby garden]

seems mandatory, I been trying with randoms but..

had one decent shot at it and one of the maulers wasn't damaged enough :(

so I only killed 2

the way lightning chains makes it hard for me to judge how much I damaged a given enemy

[gray quarry]

Ragers generally spawn in big enough groups

[icy harbor]

the shop gives me so much crap. its been 5 rotations with 0!!!! staffs to buy

[ruby garden]

I been getting nothing but maulers

so I gave it a shot

[teal needle]

Brain burst is best way u soften maulers for chievo

1 bb each

[ruby garden]

I need a fully cooperative team

I lost like two other chances because the veteran guy killed them

[teal needle]

That's the real hard part

[ruby garden]

all my friend groups are scattered across a million timezones and it feels like a 2 man group is the best I can do

[random brook]

we did it lads

[steady beacon]

Go make a fireteam, isn't too hard to find people willing to help on this game

[ornate hamlet]

why does urs have goggles

[glacial sluice]

Sand

[ruby garden]

that might be my next step, i tried yesterday and sat in an empty room for 20 minutes

[steady beacon]

Grats brotha

[ruby garden]

but it was early morning at the time

[frail geyser]

A tposing mob is the next best thing to a dead one after all

[hallow wave]

I have a shield a blocked a deamon host for a psyker to get monstrum last night

[tender terrace]

wait where are the goggles from shits pretty lit

[hallow needle]

how is this for a beginners voidstrike?

[ornate hamlet]

so u need to knock 7 dudes off a ledge at once?

[random brook]

do all penances

[hallow wave]

Also I turned my Surge staff into a purge staff with a skin lol

[random brook]

its the last helm you get

[gray quarry]

Congrats!

[tender terrace]

is it just not listed in the thing?

[gray quarry]

You have to do the malice tier first

[tender terrace]

i guess kinetic killer (X)

[random brook]

@tender terrace its the end of the helmet tier, theres 4 tiers i believe

[tender terrace]

got it

[radiant jolt]

What an incredible nerf to the cliffhanger one lol

20 to 7

[hallow wave]

someone just did it randomly during my game yesterday. I had to find a four man

I am the fool🤡

[radiant jolt]

the 20's ran so that the 7s could walk

[gray quarry]

I did it for like an hour in beta

[brave vale]

is the best way to kill monstrosities and bosses just to spam brain burst?

[spark forum]

they nerfed cliffhanger but not pick n mix and barely nerfed MM

[gray quarry]

Pick n Mix is hard af

[radiant jolt]

Pick n mix used to be 10s

[spark forum]

yeah it looks like aids

[gray quarry]

least it's more possible now yea

[spark forum]

ooh didnt see they added 2 sec, nice

[pine flax]

Anyone have tips for going out with a bang? I just detonated right next to 3 ragers that were already low and it just threw them back

[gray quarry]

You can only oneshot gunners, snipers and bombers though

[ruby garden]

you have to soften them up val

I am currently screaming into a pillow trying to do this one too

[spark forum]

so you need what a big pack of gunners in a big room

[radiant jolt]

The only one I've yet to do is pick n mix so far

[ruby garden]

gunners suck, they like to scatter to the ass ends of the room

[teal needle]

For pick and mix make sure to bring the level 30 talent that reduces bb cost and cast time. Pop one head, immediately press f and then pop four more heads. You can get off like 6 pops in 12 seconds comfortably

[radiant jolt]

and I still think out with a bang is the hardest

[spark forum]

yeah but getting it lined up and with the right mobs is the impossible part

[pine flax]

Do the explosions just do much less damage than i think? those ragers were basically next to death

[hallow wave]

it's not too bad with a dedicated* four man

[radiant jolt]

I think the explosion is like 600

[spark forum]

out with a bang is def the most cancerous for the run, thats for sure

[gray quarry]

it does around500

[ruby garden]

out with a bang needs A, a full team of people cooperating with you to not kill elites, B, good luck that things spawn correctly for you to set it up, and C, you to PERFECTLY weaken the enemies but not kill them so peril actually works

[teal needle]

Idk you're balls deep in shotgunners, gunners, and maulers at level 5

[ruby garden]

and encourages you to do such a dumb thing in the first place that it'll nearly never happen in regular gameplay

[half river]

did it on accident when i was like level 20~

[radiant jolt]

buy a lottery ticket

[hallow wave]

Irresponsible to saythe least

[spark forum]

got mine on accident too, i feel like either you get it on accident without even knowing what it is or you just hate life and try it over and over again

[ruby garden]

I should just do some leveling instead of aiming for it

this is making me incomprehensibly angy

[radiant jolt]

All of them are easier to do at cap than not

[ruby garden]

I know but the second I hit 30 I'm off to level up ogryn

my first goal is everything to 30

[hallow wave]

surge is the way to go for out with a bang too keep them bunched up and hurt them a bit before blowing

[teal needle]

I'm leveling my other chars as alts as I get friends into the game

[half river]

step 1 to getting that penance- be drunk
step 2- use the surge staff

i blew up a lot

[hallow wave]

this

[ruby garden]

at this point all I can do is just do regular games and try to blow myself up if 3 ragers happen to jump me

3 ragers on a ogryn shield would make this so easy

[hallow wave]

this penace is just Chiaotzu moment

[spark forum]

still odd they havent fixed endless horde on 4 and 5

[light belfry]

is the psyker imperial edition chestplate still clipping for anyone else?

[silver root]

what do ppl run for the lvl 15 feat? can you get a lot of stacks off the top one?

[teal needle]

In the hot fix they said they fixed imperial edition psyker cosmetic, anyone checked on that yet?

[gray quarry]

They didn't completely fix it

it's still half broken

[light belfry]

they need to fix the dumbass strap

[gray quarry]

yup

[snow blaze]

I run the allies in coherency get CDR on elite kills, 4% to get a warp charge on kill isn't really consistent

[gray quarry]

least they fixed the collar?

[light belfry]

oh ur right the eagle is actually there

[opal badger]

anyone think pick and mix is still a bit rough because of BB doing so little against elites in heresy?

[spark forum]

its entirely dependent on you getting a bunch of weak specialists to kill and having a team let you do it

[ornate hamlet]

Pretty much

It’s one of the more annoying penances in the games

[orchid dirge]

everyone thinks pick and mix is still a bit rough because of BB doing so little against elites in heresy

fixed for you

[ebon jolt]

I randomly got it by accident on my second day playing 😅

[spark forum]

every time i Q in to try pick in mix its just sharpshooters and they destroy everything lmao

[ornate hamlet]

You need to ask the team to let you do pick n mix

[uncut ivy]

I’ve found I only get other psykers on my team when I play my Psyker. This is astonishing

[shadow quail]

What are you guys running as your cruios? im using surge/force

[clever oar]

I know right and then they earn the achievements you've been hunting xd

[steady beacon]

It can be, but if you know what map has ideal conditions and what mobs you can 1 shot it makes it more reasonable (shotgunners, gunners, trappers, bombers, and snipers, and poxbursters)

[wet gust]

What should I put as lvl 5 talent?

I have the 3rd one

[steady beacon]

Quell / 3 for now. once you get a void strike staff swap to 2

[wet gust]

How many staves are there?

[steady beacon]

4

[wet gust]

Noice

[pale scarab]

3 + trauma

trauma doesn't count

[radiant jolt]

lmao

[steady beacon]

I would say 2 if you wanna do Heresy or Damnation tbh

[pale scarab]

Voidstrike, Surge and Purgatas all have their role to play in heresy and damnation

I pretty heavily favor surge/voidstrike though

[steady beacon]

Purge is kinda just theorycrafting and optimism

It’s not practical

[candid temple]

nobody really used flamer staff in cata in vt2 either, unless you were really flexing your skill.

[spiral escarp]

that´s more like your opinion

[snow blaze]

I've tried to get purge to work but it always feels useless. Rather have surge for elites and just melee hordes

[steady beacon]

Purge doesn’t offer enough utility nor dmg for the amount of peril / time invested. The others just fulfil their roles as needed short and simple

[teal needle]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[bold maple]

that’s like, your opinion man

[pale scarab]

purg's greatest weakness is getting hit in the back/shot while trying to channel it canceling the channel and giving you like 30% more peril

[elfin jacinth]

Question: Does Psykinetics Wrath apply to burns From purg staff??

Anyone know for sure?

[teal needle]

(I agree purge is only even halfway okay when you're getting covered in ranged engagements by people picking up your slack)

[bold maple]

funny since purge staff have the highest dps out of all the staff

[umbral trench]

I dont reaally get how to use the surge staff lel. I seem to always end up just killing myself

[bold maple]

except surge bonus vs armoured enemies

[pale scarab]

Surge has a bonus to armored enemies and a pretty heavy weakness to infested ones

it does however kill the ranged gunners REAL good

[elfin jacinth]

My suggestion is to aim at high value targets, don't charge, and run a peril resist build

[pale scarab]

esp when they're a little to spread out for voidstrike

I think my favorite setup though is voidstrike/ force sword with deflection

[steady beacon]

If you require someone else to carry you, you’re more of a hinderance to your team (if ya wanna get carried gl finding a group that won’t just kick ya for not pulling your slack)

[umbral trench]

Gotcha, My guess is im just to low lvl to realize utilize it

[elfin jacinth]

Additionally Surge Staff is insanely good for getting your team into gunners, Chain lighting a pack of gunners and letting your zealot in is so good

[pale scarab]

but surge + dueling sword also feels pretty good

[bold maple]

only one getting carried is yo momma out of the strip club

[shadow quail]

cringe

[teal needle]

Purgatus staff doesn't even do the most dps against a spread out melee group like it's supposed to. Voidstrike is still better at that

[steady beacon]

Cringe

[bold maple]

cringe

[steady beacon]

Either way point being made, Purge flat out is statistically worse. Requires too much to go right / line up to even be on par w/ void

[bold maple]

look at this fucking meta nerd

[umbral trench]

But fire

[pale scarab]

Purgatos staff actually runs pretty well with kintetic overload and ascendant blaze when in tight corridors

[steady beacon]

Fire pretty litty

For the style it’s fun

But can’t argue stats

[peak sundial]

is surge the mortar one

[pale scarab]

VS and Surge are definitely pretty far ahead

[teal needle]

Voidstrike way better than purgatus in tight corridor, literally one shots the entire hallway with a .5 second charge

[snow blaze]

I want fire to be good but it sadly just isn't very good

[pale scarab]

Surge is sith lord staff

[peak sundial]

ahhh

[steady beacon]

I hope Fire will get a buff

[round charm]

are staves warp attakcs?

[icy harbor]

it is very good, you constantly build stacks, and if you pick the right perk every stack over 4 will just go to nearby specials with 4 stacks of fire

[pale scarab]

my voidstrike takes 4 full channels to put down ragers and other annoying mobs like that

the purg staff will kill everything in the hallway in one full channel

[gray quarry]

Soooo this can happen...

another psyker was doing their penance when something else spawned

[devout halo]

[burnt python]

just got my first emperors gift better than a blue, with a good roll:

and it's a fucking chainsword

im crying

[peak sundial]

them stats do be really high tho

[icy harbor]

seems decent though

[pale scarab]

I don't hate chainswords I just can't really think of a situation where I wanna use one over a dueling sword or a force sword w/ deflection

[steady beacon]

You’re comparing something for it’s wrong intended use there, Void is purely for horde clearing

[red mist]

Hey I’m trying to get a force sword with deflection and was wondering if the one I upgrade doesn’t receive it as a blessing can I re-roll or need to find another one with good stats?

[burnt python]

yup same, psyker has too many good melees to even consider it

[round charm]

can maybe reroll eventually, but for now its an oof try again

[pale scarab]

what I'm saying is, the purg staff will put down the whole hallway, everything the horde and the elites and specials, its niche but it does do things the voidstrike staff wont do

[teal needle]

Purgatus sucks at killing elites compared to anything that's actually meant for killing elites

[snow blaze]

Currently you need to find another one, at a later date it will be possible via crafting so I'd still hold on to it

[red mist]

Argh ok

[pale scarab]

/shrug? I prefer voidstrike w/ forcesword and surge with dueling sword, but the flamestaff does work on some of the maps its not like trauma

[steady beacon]

It puts down hordes slower, it’s not amazing for elites or even specialists so I dunno where you’re getting your numbers (secondary channel provides no stagger either)

[round charm]

is there a general best pick for talents, or are there actually builds?

[red mist]

Fair enough thanks, I’ll hold onto it if it fails

[shadow helm]

Does Psykinetic Wrath (T2 perk) apply to the surge lightning does anyone know ?

[pale scarab]

I've played with it in heresy (not damnation)

[steady beacon]

Oh

[pale scarab]

and I've done some testing in the psychanium

it'll mostly kill anything in one full channel

[peak sundial]

I think staffs are consider force weapons

so psykinetic should work for them

[steady beacon]

Hmmmm, all my testing with Purge has been in Heresy and Damn and it leaves lots to be desired

At least you need other classes to fill a role that is tough for them to fill

[gray quarry]

does anyone know if this works with hair?

[steady beacon]

No hair

[pale scarab]

I'm fairly sure that soulfire does a bit of damage to stagger in addition to what the staff does too

[gray quarry]

this is a tragedy

[orchid dirge]

Nope, saw one bald psyker

[steady beacon]

Big sadge

[elder rivet]

hello, what is the best rating a weapon can get ? it is possible to reach 500 or it will be always something between 450 & below 500 ?

[orchid dirge]

yes but good luck with that

[bold maple]

510

[icy harbor]

I am pretty sure with a good roll you go above 500

my pretty bad roll sword does 489

[elder rivet]

damn

[bold maple]

380 + 40 + 90

[elder rivet]

I got only 470 max

[burnt python]

is that t3 or t4 blessings

[spiral escarp]

secondary attack staggers

[teal needle]

You're not going to lock down a mixed elite and horde wave with a purgatus staff in heresy+ you can stagger for a while and you can kill the mobs around the elites (worse than a void staff at shorter range) but you're not going to mow them down even with a fully charged purgatus flame. It has no stagger and a long wind up and ttk at a short range ogryns and shit will walk right through the fire and dump on you

[steady beacon]

Elites? Last time I checked that was a no

[pearl thicket]

are you playing true solo or something

[spiral escarp]

yes even elites

[orchid dirge]

lmao

[pearl thicket]

get whatever that is

[burnt python]

the emperor trolls

[pale geode]

i was recently surge only but emperor provided me a 490 voidstrike staff with reduce purge on weak spot hits (rank4) votive, it's a beast

[steady beacon]

How often? Is it just once then not again or constant stagger like force sword spam stagger?

[pearl thicket]

constant

[hallow needle]

public groups aint letting me get the cliffhanger achievment :(

[steady beacon]

I have doubt but I’ll test

[elder rivet]

can we hit weakspot with flamethrower rode or it's a scam ?

[pearl thicket]

works on my machine

[wet gust]

This penance is literally killing it by yourself?

[pearl thicket]

yea

[steady beacon]

It’s easy

[ornate hamlet]

will they add more penances with more cosmetics?

[gray quarry]

Yes

[wet gust]

If you are in premade you mean

[pearl thicket]

yea

[steady beacon]

Ask in voice

[pale scarab]

stagger on a rager

it won't stagger mutants or maulers

[gray quarry]

There are 2 ways to do Malleus Monstronum ,

1. Shield Boi and Daemonhost
2. Nurgle (you can't die to corruption it spits you our eventually)

[wet gust]

I've killed few dogos but didn't get this penance yet, what am I doing wrong?

[hallow needle]

needs to be mid jump i think

[burnt python]

I don't know if it applies here but fyi psykanarium is not always true to game

[hallow needle]

like when it jumps onto someone

[pale scarab]

I've tested it in game as well, it works

[wet gust]

ahh

[fresh reef]

goddam
worth the investment?

[pale scarab]

doesn't stagger maulers, ogrynns or mutants but it will stagger everything else

[burnt python]

yes

[pale scarab]

actually, it'll stagger reapers

but not crushers

[steady beacon]

On those ye, but not carapace armored enemies and ones mutants as you said ye (mutants and carapace armored as usually the problem)

[teal needle]

Ragers get stun resist when aggroed. just bring it into diff 4-5 I've tried it it's miserable

[pale scarab]

I ~have~ used it in heresy (not damnation)

[pearl thicket]

works for me

[spark forum]

i got a nurgle to about 20% before he killed me outright and bricked the achieve. Of course i finally convinced my team and the boss spawned but it was maybe the worst possible area and no one helped tank it

[next aurora]

didnt see a Force Sword in shop for 3 days now, anybody else?

[pale scarab]

I've also said that I prefer voidstrike/surge but that unlike trauma, purgatas ~can~ find some niche use cases

[gray quarry]

I watched a psyker get eaten like 5 times so I'm shocked it killed you

[shadow quail]

I just got one today, my last one I got on monday. I feel you man

[pearl thicket]

it does actual damage too

[spiral escarp]

use left click to stagger them

[steady beacon]

I guess it’s very niche, but killing Ragers usually is the same as clearing hordes they’re easy

[spark forum]

it was in an awful area with no where else to go besides some skinny hallways so the trail and his spitting basically whittled my health down and he killed me somehow

[burnt python]

i find ragers to be the most threatening melee enemy in damnation

[pale scarab]

purg staff won't stagger carapace armor or mutants

[spiral escarp]

mutants no, but ogryns yes

[pearl thicket]

idk most weapons outrange it’s attacks

[burnt python]

you don't always have room to safely kite

[pale scarab]

only reaper and if you can hit a bulwark from behind, it won't stagger the crusher

[sinful mortar]

Ragers close so fats you often don't have time to put a few rounds into it

[spiral escarp]

you can stunlock ogryns and reapers with left click purgatus

[steady beacon]

Never found myself to be troubled by ragers honestly I’d take a rager over a gunner or a bomber anyday

[sinful mortar]

Big Brained Beta player

[burnt python]

you can basically infnite block ragers w/ peril blocking, but that doesnt make them go away lol

[pearl thicket]

I don’t think I’ve taken more than like 50 damage to a rager in like 20 games

[sly marsh]

are lobbies bugged rn or something? i cleared a damnation run with a bot the entire run, never got another teammate

[burnt python]

i mean i'm pretty sure a single hit from rager does more than 50 dmg

[steady beacon]

Stun lock them and mix in heavies

[pearl thicket]

I’m talking hp damage

[steady beacon]

Or charge sword hits

[burnt python]

i understand how to deal with them, but i still find them to be the most threatening melee elite

maulers, crushers etc are basically a non threat

[steady beacon]

They are for melee ye

[sinful mortar]

Yeah, you just dodge and either brainbirst or change the force sword

[steady beacon]

But melee is easy if you have your dodging down

[sinful mortar]

Psyker mains in melee combat:

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

[shadow quail]

I want the 2h

in the trailer

[steady beacon]

xD