psyker-class

[burnt python]

the grenade gauntlets are fuckin amazing tho

[bleak sonnet]

yeah i can but i also run 6 charges with peril resist always so idk how it is baseline

[radiant jolt]

Actually their weapons are quite big

[wide quest]

Literally

[burnt python]

gotcha, how much peril to you gen per charge w/ that setup

[bronze sierra]

tempted to make a bullgryn build and aesthetic

[bleak sonnet]

i think its about 25 per cast

i havent used it in a while

[burnt python]

oh thats pretty damn good actually

[acoustic spade]

Inspect the weapon with [V] and hover over Warp Resistance for these numbers of your staff:

[ancient ivy]

The smallest weapon pool. By a massive margin. Psyker has 37 weapons in their pool. Ogryn has 13 lmao

[teal cargo]

Maybe they'll give psyker a taunt

so can be IB with guard

[burnt python]

and you can actually kill elites w/ it compared to other staves

[iron flame]

Oh damn.

[bleak sonnet]

yeah its pretty juiced with good rolls

[burnt python]

ima have to give it another shot, i have a 360 base one i havent upgraded yet

[bleak sonnet]

i think most people use a 100 base item trauma once then write it off

lol

[iron flame]

I am crying right now because I am still using a 280 base Stat sword despite almost lvl 30

[teal cargo]

god, why cant we craft weapons like vt2, its nonsense

[zinc gorge]

I have a 422 blue trauma that I’m saving to bump up eventually to give it another try.

[candid temple]

early access

[bleak sonnet]

doesnt fit the setting

[iron flame]

Gotta get cosmetic shop out first for more $$

[zinc gorge]

I actually wish shared weapons could be used between characters like in VT.

[acoustic spade]

Thats actually a decent answer

[iron flame]

Other features can come later.

[candid temple]

yes, it's stupid we can't.

[wide quest]

Space toilet seat supremacy.

[burnt python]

they hinted at adding a way to reliably buy decent base weapons, we'll see what they do

[acoustic spade]

I can accept the fact that WH40K universe people cant just make a weapon

[burnt python]

in a year or so

[bleak sonnet]

thats the answer they gave in dev QA

[acoustic spade]

so devs have atleast a rudimentary understanding of the 40k universe 😏

[burnt python]

nevermind the tech priest on board lol

[acoustic spade]

(not throwing too much shade on the devs lol)

[teal needle]

The damage on trauma isn't the problem. Range is short, the stagger is messy, takes too long to charge. Won't clear hordes as well as either other option and while it's the best at killing elites by far it is still a wet fart compared to just using a melee weapon or letting the veteran handle it

[acoustic spade]

I just approve of the answer

[bleak sonnet]

i dont blame the devs for much, tencent is the majority shareholder in fatshark so

theyre just doing the bidding of our chinese overlords

[iron flame]

I mean us surviving a fight with plague ogryn and pox walker doesn't fit the setting either.

A moan from pox walker should be giving us cancer and being near a plague ogryn would be killing us pretty much immediately

[candid temple]

I doubt that.

[zinc gorge]

Problem I have with trauma is placing the sigil while charging. Some uneven terrain makes it…. wonky.

[robust meteor]

i just noticed i did it

[iron flame]

So I am damn sure they can fit a tech priest crafting us a weapon

[bleak sonnet]

i mean

not typical of the setting

[iron flame]

Or even easier, just say we put in a fucking requisition form and we get what we want

[shadow quail]

There's a tech priest on the ship

[teal cargo]

yea lol

[teal needle]

We can survive a plague ogryn ambush, space marines are chumps compared to us

[tepid solstice]

i will forever be known as TAZERFACE . . . . .

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-raccoon-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-8368959

[halcyon gazelle]

Does anyone know when Psyker gets a combat shotgun? I've seen people using it during the beta but I haven't found one as of yet.

[teal cargo]

i mean unless end game is meant to be waiting at the shop for it to reset

[bold maple]

fatshark tryin to use lore to justify why they dont have a full crafting system at release is funny

[burnt python]

psyker doesn't get it

[iron flame]

Yea. Plague ogryn would be instant dead zone if they want to be lore friendly

[teal needle]

... now that you mention it, I haven't seen it since closed beta. And I'm 30 and check the shop religiously

[teal cargo]

i feel pretty duped if this supposed to be early access 😆

[stoic pendant]

I wish they had all weapons available to test in the meat grinder.

[zinc gorge]

Same. They definitely took the shotty out of our pool.

[shadow quail]

Isn't it a vet wep?

[old parcel]

Laughs in Tech-Priest

[teal needle]

Psyket definitely got a shotty in cbt

[bleak sonnet]

having you wait at the shop means an artifical increase of played hours they can sell to shareholders for more generous funding, its all business

[iron flame]

Fatshark sell their soul

[shadow quail]

The shop should list more class specific weapons

this is BS

[bleak sonnet]

they got bought by tecent man

[zinc gorge]

Well… if it pleases The Emperor…

[bleak sonnet]

developing a game is a job, at your job do you typically decide what your assignment is? deving no different. the devs who made the predatory cash shop and such were instructed to do so

[fresh reef]

never actually tried dueling sword before, it's really fun

[halcyon gazelle]

There needs to be a legitimate shooting range so you can test gunplay and test weapon attributes

[teal cargo]

This whole needing to like mobile game wait for specific weapons hurting enjoyment of the game for me

[boreal slate]

Anyone use the trauma staff and can say if its viable on 4 and 5?

[bold maple]

dueling sword is the only other melee I'd use aside from force sword rn, it's great

[fresh reef]

def viable

better than other options? maybe not

[candid temple]

everything is viable

[boreal slate]

Aight, havent ever used it so

[candid temple]

it's shitty conflag staff

[fresh reef]

It's pretty cool

[boreal slate]

Purgatus is kinda wack now so not so sure thats very viable

[loud violet]

I'm using nothing but purgatus on heresy

[bleak sonnet]

im using nothing but purgatus on damnation

[zinc gorge]

Alright folks, we just got away from my staff is bigger than yours talk. All of our staves are equally important for the right situation.

[boreal slate]

Oh fuck just got +20% vs unyielding on top of 25% carapace for dueling sword on upgrading

Thank you rng emperor

Fucking reapers are gonna get it now

[bleak sonnet]

the game is piss easy run whatever you want

im doing heresy on my lvl 11 zealot rn

[boreal slate]

If you have decent teammates it is

[zinc gorge]

Eyyyy that’s the spirit

[halcyon gazelle]

Also why doesn't the Force Sword proc Warp Charges 😕?
Seems like a missed opportunity for synergy...

Actually... none of the passive abilities feel like impactful choices

[boreal slate]

But ive had 3 runs now where some guy purposely triggered demon host and left

[stoic pendant]

Lol

[cyan echo]

holy shit, after todays minipatch my fps went up dramatically

[teal cargo]

Imagine if they start addimg microtrasnactions to be able to fully craft a weapon

[zinc gorge]

Force sword special gaining a warp charge on hit would be nice…

[loud violet]

There's a beam staff?

[bleak sonnet]

theres an lfg system in this discord youre already jn

[loud violet]

Or is this 🐀 people

[bleak sonnet]

get some decent teammates takes sub 5 min

[loud violet]

talking beam staff

[stoic pendant]

No beam staff

[paper trail]

other games have done similar

[bold maple]

you'd actually have to talk to "people"

[fresh reef]

dueling sword users, how good is this? got it from the Emperor and it feels pretty great

[bold maple]

ew

[boreal slate]

God damn

[bold maple]

not mk5, skip

only good dueling sword is mk5

[bleak sonnet]

pretty bad base stats and not mk5

[boreal slate]

Except for the 8% melee thats pretty ballin

[teal cargo]

whats diff between mk5 and mk2?

[stoic pendant]

3

[fresh reef]

^

[bleak sonnet]

specials

[bold maple]

mk5 have the sexiest moveset in the universe

[loud violet]

my sord

[paper trail]

lmao

[bold maple]

your swing and heavy is different from mk2 and 3

[boreal slate]

Ive not once gotten a mk5

[teal cargo]

oh

so more rng getting a good weapon?

yikes

[bleak sonnet]

i have 3 mastercrafted mk5s

from emps gift

[halcyon gazelle]

Someone with a mk5 post a screen grab please?

[bleak sonnet]

one 380 base stats

[queen turtle]

hot damn

[paper trail]

I only got a 370 but I dont use it

[queen turtle]

im impressed i havent got that far yet

[boreal slate]

Best emp gift i got was a 445 legendary

Too bad its the autogun

[loud violet]

I got an axe and immediately sold it

[teal cargo]

is autogun good?

[boreal slate]

The burst one is good but all the full auto ones ive had have been bad

[wide quest]

Currently running this toothpick

[boreal slate]

I could use it on my veteran but i got it on psyker

[iron flame]

Yea... Game is pretty much in a bad place. I am not expecting 4 years of polish from VT but you think they might learn some lessons

[teal cargo]

wtf is there a mk3 Dueling sword too?

[bleak sonnet]

different team

[loud violet]

I'm trying to find a good zappy staff

[boreal slate]

Also whoever said to use peril block in here thanks you are a genius, i thought youd get like 30% peril per block, no its like fucking 4%

[grand nacelle]

Anyone know what Curios perks I should prioritize first?

[bleak sonnet]

vt2 team is still supporting vt2

[loud violet]

but they all seems kinda awful

[boreal slate]

Wounds

[teal cargo]

Pretty disappointing how bad the economy is 😭

[echo parrot]

Ive been running a 398 blue force sword for a long time because I cant find a better one anywhere.

[zinc gorge]

Wounds for curious for sure

[boreal slate]

Relatable

Wounds are like free full heals

[iron flame]

Hmm yea I know but I dunno you think there would be some knowledge transfer

[wide quest]

Why is stamina even a perk on staves

[loud violet]

Why is run & gun a perk

[boreal slate]

So you can run into hordes to die faster i guess

[wide quest]

Why

[loud violet]

So awful for staff

[zinc gorge]

Yeah I had a purple 411 force sword for the longest time. Finally got a 470-something orange from the weekly vendor. It slaps.

[boreal slate]

Wish you could run backwards

[iron flame]

To dilute the loot pool

[bold maple]

staff have shit mobility so you dont even sprint that fast with all that stamina anyway

[wide quest]

Fair enough

[bold maple]

weird

[loud violet]

I'm saving my weekly points for something actually good

instead of something with high level but awful traits

At least until I know how the refinement system works

[robust meteor]

i haven't discarded a single item yet

[fresh reef]

ngl I'm not really seeing the appeal of mk5 over mk2. I like my thrust heavies, and since I'm mainly using melee for trash clear the damage is negligible

[loud violet]

I discarded practically everything I don't use

[boreal slate]

Im hoping for cosmetics or curios

On that topic, some of these contracts are awful. Complete 25 missions??? So because the game doesnt share inventories i could have that one for all 4 of my characters, 100 missions a week

That one is an instant reroll

[stoic pendant]

I wish we had more rerolls.

[grand nacelle]

Anyone know what Curios perks I should prioritize first?

[robust meteor]

wish i could reroll 5 missions for TRS 150

[bold maple]

mk5 overhead heavy and light 3 always kill trash mobs and ranged enemies in 1 slash all the way to heresy

cause they always headshot

[bronze sierra]

i got for max HP tang

[loud violet]

Slowly but surely

[halcyon gazelle]

Someone said wounds

[boreal slate]

Wounds and resistance vs gunners

[bronze sierra]

hp and toughness

wounds just give more downs

why plan to go down

[zinc gorge]

Perks for curios? Max HP/Tough or reduced damage from certain specials can be nice

[noble sluice]

bc legion on high difficulty its gonna happen

[stoic pendant]

I have +2 wounds and I can't tell the difference

[boreal slate]

Because its a free heal and its nice to have a safety net, nobody plans on going down but sometimes you die in literally 2 seconds

[loud violet]

I have +1 wound which is nice for heresy with reduced wounds*

[zinc gorge]

Yeah wounds are health.

[boreal slate]

Yeah man ill down and revive with full hp

Giga brain

[stoic pendant]

It adds to your health?

[boreal slate]

No it adds to your downs

[stoic pendant]

Ahhhh

[loud violet]

It cut up your healthbar into chunks from how I see it

[zinc gorge]

So the bars on your health are wounds. 1 for each segment.

[wide quest]

It divides your health bar into more segments

[loud violet]

Get downed once and only have 2 wounds

that's 50% if your health gone

until a heal

[noble sluice]

it segments it into more bars and when you go down you lose 1 bar each time, so it means more times you can go down

[loud violet]

yee

[robust meteor]

BARS

[bold maple]

if you got 3 wound instead of 4, when you go down you get up with 25% more hp

[stoic pendant]

Gotcha

[loud violet]

B A R S

[bold maple]

so in a roundabout way if your team can get you up you'd get more hp than hp perks

[loud violet]

I've seen ogryns with ALL THE BARS

[zinc gorge]

Grimoires eat 1 wound. So does going down. If you cannot spend a wound to go down, you instead die instantly.

[noble sluice]

ogryns chilling with like 30 bars

[glacial vigil]

ayyy wats poppin my siblings

[fresh reef]

so the difference is that with mk2 you just have to aim first heavy?

[stoic pendant]

Grimoires keep eating though

[loud violet]

Heads.

[bronze sierra]

ive only had a grioire eat 50 of my hp

[zinc gorge]

They do, but the initial big chunk is 1 segment.

[stoic pendant]

Ya

[bold maple]

the difference is that mk5 have 0 wasted attack and 30% higher dps as a result

[stoic pendant]

Every grimoire match I'll be sitting at 1 bar of health with the rest purple lol

[loud violet]

What your psykers look like

I'm going with the edgy grey

[wide quest]

Master of the space toilet.

[zinc gorge]

Yeah the black set looks dope

[loud violet]

Because the christmas hood doesn't suit me

[stoic pendant]

Prison garb, beta helm

[thorn sphinx]

Any1 thinks the 2 handed force sword is kinda weak?

[iron flame]

I just want to hood. But shop say no force sword for you

[bronze sierra]

theres no 2 handed FS @thorn sphinx

not in yet anyways

[loud violet]

Very tasteful siblings

[thorn sphinx]

If u beat damnation at trust lvl 30, i just got it

[bronze sierra]

oh?

[zinc gorge]

Pics or it didn’t happen lmao

[bronze sierra]

i have a goal

[acoustic spade]

gg

oops

[thorn sphinx]

A bit of cleave, but very very low damage

[acoustic spade]

":D"

wrong chat

[night mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/557480500328136710/1047712736580210748/image.png

Just need one more penance for upgraded helm, I hate the green

[bronze sierra]

share pics

[stoic pendant]

Christmas colors

[wide quest]

I assume it's pick n mix?

[noble sluice]

grimoires in darktide are just a more difficult version of vermintide grimoirs for no clear reason. same effect but then they also widdle ur health bar down over time too

[night mortar]

Yep lol

[wide quest]

Too lazy to be bothered by that penance

[loud violet]

I need to organize my friends to allow me to bring down the monstrosity with mind bursts

[night mortar]

Same p

[bold maple]

and less reward, cant forget about that

[orchid dirge]

and they give almost no reward

[zinc gorge]

Is there an easy way to do that penance? I see they bumped it to 12 seconds up from 10.

[noble sluice]

oh yes of course

[bronze sierra]

hence why i always try to ignore it

[wide quest]

I just do this and call it a day

[stoic pendant]

That helm is so awful lol

[bleak sonnet]

i have all my penances for t3 helm but not 100 missions

too grindy

[stoic pendant]

Reminds me of Buzz Lightyear

[robust meteor]

WTB flash mission

[acoustic spade]

Now as soon as I buy this duelling sword, the next shop roll will have a deflection force sword

mark my words

[shadow quail]

Toilet helm

[halcyon gazelle]

My psyker's abilities feel like a discount Merlin trying to impersonate a Padawan rather than a psychic mind-flaying badss.

It's like they chose this class to be the "mage" instead of expanding on all the things a psyker can really do. 🙁

[loud violet]

At least the helmet doesn't remove his hair*

[neat dirge]

Its so frustrating seeing your life drop to almost 0 for ''reason'' even tho you are not getting hit.

[wide quest]

Toilet is best

Love toilet

[remote bluff]

What is awful is the absence of glass in the front of it.

[noble sluice]

psychers really got the genestealer helmet while everyone else got swag helmets

[remote bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/sobbing-gif-sobbing-uoooh-gif-24612778

[acoustic spade]

iirc that doesnt happen if you are in coherency?

[cobalt granite]

Get curios with corruption resistance, what's the problem

[acoustic spade]

or someone said something like that

[remote bluff]

actual psyker right there. Only $29.99 to get this drip !

[jolly spear]

I was gonna say, I actually like the Genestealer Cult helm, just wish the outfit that it came with was better lol

[shadow quail]

Let's go store reset

[stoic pendant]

Lol

[loud violet]

Pain.

[noble sluice]

lot harder to get curios with 90% of the crafting system missing

[wide quest]

It used to be much more pain

[bronze sierra]

preorder was worse

[halcyon gazelle]

What is coherency?

[bronze sierra]

it had to be soley your damage

[wide quest]

How literally any other source of dmg can screw you over on that penance

[zinc gorge]

Oh did they nerf it? Lol man

[fresh reef]

this sounds doable

[loud violet]

the emperor gave me these

[jolly spear]

Yeah used to be exclusively brain burst dmg

[loud violet]

daddy emp loves me

[fresh reef]

now imagine if a single barrel exploded on the boss

[south zephyr]

Still can't manage to get Out With a Bang 😭

[loud violet]

(they're bad)

[fresh reef]

[bronze sierra]

coherency is staying near each other @halcyon gazelle

[neat dirge]

the books drain your life overtime

[acoustic spade]

its when you are near your teammates so people regen toughness and give each other buffs

[zinc gorge]

My friends helped me get MM. I felt like a gladiator while they had popcorn.

[acoustic spade]

Its explained in the basic training iirc?

[iron flame]

Cry in no friend to play with

[bronze sierra]

advanced

[robust meteor]

if u get a shield ogryn and you go with bb feats its pretty ez to do

just pug until you get a shield ogryn then ask them in game to do it

[mild lotus]

what?

[bold maple]

help me get MM and ill be ur friend

[acoustic spade]

Oh was it in advanced? Shoulda been in basic imo

[radiant jolt]

Which boss did yall do MM on, I did it on Nergal, would not recommend

[wide quest]

Definitely

[jolly spear]

Is MM required for the T2 headpiece that has the red hood and mask?

[bronze sierra]

demon host?

[south zephyr]

Daemonhost is usually the easiest

[iron flame]

I am living in China... Unless you are also in China or close to it. My connection will be constant crash

[bronze sierra]

that might be the play

[zinc gorge]

I did the plague ogryn for mine

[wide quest]

Ogryn would be the easiest for me

[robust meteor]

the ogryn monster

[bold maple]

rip

[wide quest]

I can kite him alone

[worthy star]

Anyone else only rolled guns for emperors gifts? 2 legendary and 4 purples all guns.

[noble sluice]

i wonder when we're gonna get a second class for any of the classes

before or after sienna gets her 4th career

[zinc gorge]

Lol

Shhh

[iron flame]

They said they aiming for one per quarter but...

[bronze sierra]

correction

[shadow quail]

Ours will be last probably

[bronze sierra]

IF she gets her 4th

[robust meteor]

my last 2 trans rewards have been guns

[weak galleon]

thats where trauma stuff is good with it's insane peril cost. At suiciding.
Surge can work too.
Voidstrike is very hard for this penance due to low peril cost.

[iron flame]

Just brain burst lul

[south zephyr]

been using surge, problem is either the bots kill them as I'm exploding or random people do 😦

[loud violet]

I still don't understand what the purpose of the lightning staff is.

[acoustic spade]

Ok, is it overkill to have 3 curios with +15% Damage Resistance (Gunners) in each?

[loud violet]

Is it CC

[bronze sierra]

I HEREBY DUB THE TRAUMA STAFF; the penance staff

[loud violet]

is it aoe damage

[radiant jolt]

CC

[shadow quail]

CC

[weak galleon]

premade then

[brave token]

Any guide how to work Psyker skills?

[weak galleon]

CC bot, offhand elite killer.

[noble sluice]

best stun in the whole game. can stop anything that isnt a boss

[loud violet]

But i dont wanna stun

[zealous light]

flamethrower staff feels so awful.

[shadow quail]

Get a lightning staff and spam it

[loud violet]

I WANNA KILL

[weak galleon]

then dont do lightning staff

[radiant jolt]

Use Void then

[bronze sierra]

get a void

[weak galleon]

do Voidstrike or Purge.

[shadow quail]

roll vet

[brave token]

I wanna paly with fire staff nothing else

[jolly spear]

The surge staff is still the only thing so far to make me accidentally blow myself up, have no issues with the other staves or force sword/BB combos lol, but that lightning staff is just, big oof

[loud violet]

I just do purgatus staff

and headpop everything else

[zealous light]

Fire staff is so bad.

[bronze sierra]

you can go heretic bowling with the void

[shadow quail]

headpop makes me sad

[radiant jolt]

I always save my F for accidentally blowing myself up with lightning staff

[worthy star]

lmao no

[brave token]

so cool

[jolly spear]

Voidstrike is still my go to. At least until we get plasma pistols

[noble sluice]

lol same

[loud violet]

my fire staff atm : (

[weak galleon]

because?

[zealous light]

Voidstrike is legit better than fire in every way

[jolly spear]

I use my F for quick BB cool down usually

[worthy star]

not true at all, you dont understand how burn works obviously

[bronze sierra]

its only downside is no DOT

[zealous light]

fire - limited ranged/ void - unlimited range which makes for staying out of harm so much easier and better.

[bronze sierra]

but the DOT is so trivial

[spark forum]

so much of this argument is based solely on team comp

[weak galleon]

Fire has better CC, better horde clear, especially in cqc.

[loud violet]

I will say the voidstrike is probably more flexible

[acoustic spade]

I've gotten so used to running lightning staff and blowing myself up that I nearly shat myself for using Force Sword special at like 97% today but didnt blow up

[stoic pendant]

Purg can stagger

[weak galleon]

fuck all range compared to voidstrike

[bronze sierra]

no need to cc if theyre dead

[weak galleon]

and you realise left click on fire is equally important to charged attack, yes? it's fire staff's stagger attack.

[loud violet]

Oh yeah but that why I run purge with mind burst setup

[frank tartan]

DOT is actually really strong on it. It isn't a linear increase, you can tick for hundreds of damage per tick at max stacks

[jolly spear]

I will say I wish there was more things to proc soulblaze with, since it's a low damage DOT anyway, having it work on any BB kill rather than just elites would be a start

[brave token]

Each guy said each things pfff so i dont know now

[bronze sierra]

i guess my team kills shit faster than i can notice that

[acoustic spade]

or atleast both specials and elites

hell, any non-poxwalker/groaner enemy

[stoic pendant]

Voidstrike is the most fun

[weak galleon]

2 stacks of SB are so weak it might as well work of any BB kill.

[loud violet]

ah yes soon I will have another fix

[radiant jolt]

What is a groaner btw

[bold maple]

someone who groans

[acoustic spade]

The people that groan before you aggro them

[shadow quail]

I need a force sword 😆

[bold maple]

like psyker about their class

[radiant jolt]

[acoustic spade]

"Its so cold"

the non-zombie horde chaff that are unarmoured

[shadow quail]

lol again, no psyker weapons

[loud violet]

Do I try to upgrade this.

[shadow quail]

ffs

[zinc gorge]

The one lvl 25 feat that stacks soulblaze on a nearby target prioritizing elites is actually really strong with Purg staff. You kill and gain so many warp charges that the stacks just melt anything. Shield Ogryn, Mutants, Maulers, doesn’t matter.

[loud violet]

I got psyker weps but they're all

incredibly meh

[robust meteor]

i've done some experimenting with surge force stats. it seems that having higher crit over damage is worth it

[shadow quail]

The shop is really ruining my experence

[orchid dirge]

mine too

[robust meteor]

this actually pumps

[stoic pendant]

I've been lucky.

[bold maple]

being a vet must be nice

[stoic pendant]

Gotta log on every hour and check lol

[loud violet]

thats a lot of crit

[bold maple]

talking about all the guns they got instead of us sitting around waiting for force weapon

[south zephyr]

current zap stick

[shadow quail]

I have been 😆

[loud violet]

Slow zap stick that speeds up

kinda interesting

[spark forum]

worth the upgrade?

[loud violet]

Prolly not

[pine iris]

the vets got new guns? those dicks

[tepid nest]

I took the dueling sword into meat grinder. The special still makes 0 sense to me. It's just less damage all the time compared to a light swing.

[wide quest]

No one has any new weapons yet

[acoustic spade]

I've been using the same gun I got at like lv4 on my Veteran cause the shop hasnt given me anymore Shotguns on it so levelling is kinda boring :<

[olive ember]

What since when where I want new pew pew

[brave token]

so best staff is flame, void or lightning??

[stoic pendant]

They all good

[radiant jolt]

Breaths in It depends

[olive ember]

Depends on who you ask

[worthy star]

crit dmg heatshot dmg attack speed huge dodge score

[pine iris]

I light swing and dodge strafe along the edge of the hordes and it shreds.

[stoic pendant]

Void probably most versatile

[loud violet]

I wonder what this will result in

int the future

just slap two random items together

get new one?

[jolly spear]

I've been doing an auto pistol/dagger build on my Vet, it's been surprisingly fun. I thought autopistols were garbage but once you actually get some decent ones rather than just the stater one, they synergize pretty well with the Vet's career skill.

[wide quest]

They're best in their own individual situations. Which one you bring depends on what your team needs.

[tepid nest]

Can you elaborate?

[burnt python]

I believe it's going to be for combining lower level blessings into ahigher level one

[olive ember]

Lightning gives you something only psyker can bring tho, which is elite cc

[radiant jolt]

There's a detailed crafting explination on the website

last I saw

[worthy star]

they each have a niche

[loud violet]

Vet talk in my psyker channel?

Heresy

[brave token]

whcih is a dps staff?

[tepid nest]

Light swing is fine, it has uses, but the special makes 0 sense. It's just less damage.

[jolly spear]

[stoic pendant]

I think you can combine 3 of the same blessings to get a higher tier of that blessing

[jolly spear]

I am of the undeveloped 5th archetype, I have no home or rules of binding.

[robust meteor]

whats the best horde clearing force sword?

[tepid nest]

There's only one force sword unless I missed something.

[robust meteor]

makes sense i've only seen II's

[bleak tulip]

what a shame

[spark forum]

theres 3 types, the MKii, the mark2, or the MK2

[brave token]

Which staff is a dps staff?

[paper trail]

voidstrike

[burnt python]

goodness thats still a monster with the poor damage roll

[jolly spear]

Voidstrike and Purgatus

[robust meteor]

isn't damage kind of meh since hardly anyone knows what the breakpoints are?

[worthy star]

finese governs attack speed and crit dmg on what is a already incredible mobile weapon. Getting attack speed helps switching to ranged weapons and more crit oppertunities. The dodge range will get you the space to use your ranged weapons. The dps output alot is quite good with a crit build.

[paper trail]

I hate this word breakpoints

[burnt python]

I haven't seen a gray staff in my shop since release lol

[wide quest]

Voidstrike is probably best for quickly due to it's general use, can clear hordes and knock them down, can also stagger ragers and specials. Purgatus can also horde clear and stagger them, downside is having no ranged option so you have to either rely on brain burst or your teammate. Lightning has meh dmg, but deals good dmg against flak armored enemies (maybe carapace too?), provides the best cc against elites and specials.

[tepid nest]

Ok, but the special stab is lower damage on Psyker compared to light swing for any armor. That's what I'm asking about

[worthy star]

oh my bad, its just a combo chain usually on low health enemies since its so fast. quick finisher kinda deal. pretty low usefullness

[tepid nest]

It's just not useful unless I'm misunderstanding what the special is for

[burnt python]

the dueling sword special seems pretty useless, low dmg low stagger

[wide quest]

Don't bother using the special attack tbh, and that applies for a lot of weapons.

[pine iris]

^ sounds like they had the anim and wanted to use it

[acoustic spade]

would you like a Mk IV instead of a MK V?

[celest hedge]

the stab doesn't seem any faster than normal hits. I don't think it does anymore damage than a normal stab so I guess the appeal is just a predicatable swing that's easy to land headshots on?

[tepid nest]

Ok, so I'm not missing something on this it seems like. Just a poorly tuned special attack.

[stoic pendant]

I like the force swords special

[tepid nest]

It does considerably less damage.

[acoustic spade]

The Mk V Heavy attack is still higher than the Mk IV's heavy attack even with a lot higher Damage roll

[icy harbor]

are those swords worth it

[pine iris]

could be a bug

[celest hedge]

at least with the better item description, we can see what the special attack of all the weapons too, see what utlity they're suppose to have

[ornate hamlet]

Me too
I think it's neat

[celest hedge]

like the combat axe having extra armor pen on stop of stagger

[tepid nest]

Hopefully, as is the special stab should be avoided unless there's a hidden mechanic there.

[formal ether]

combine lower quality blessings into a higher quality

IE: chain hits 5% toughness vs chain hits 7.5% toughness regen

[celest hedge]

the stab doesn't seem like an nimation reset either

[olive ember]

Any tips for getting pick n mix? Even if it’s premade tips or wte since I’ll prob try and get some friends to help one way or another

[acoustic spade]

So what I've seen is that you can use it as a really quick jab before evading backwards cause you can cancel most of the animations into it, if I remember the moveset right

[south zephyr]

Any siblings willing to help me get Out With a Bang?

[fresh reef]

ayo?

[olive ember]

You want a shield ogryn for that

[wide quest]

Would be nice if you can find a group of ragers since they usually spawn in a group of 3-4, and then just find another elite or special. Have the ogryn with a shield aggro the elites/specials that you intend to kill. Also the bottom feat for lvl 30 is a must.

[shadow quail]

Any good?

[spark forum]

and also dont have a vet in group because they will just insta ult and destroy all specials before u can get 5 bb off

[robust meteor]

use 15+ ability cdr too

[fresh reef]

pretty decent

[radiant jolt]

I swear I worked harder to get Out with a Bang than I did for MM

[wide quest]

I mean the person did say they were gonna get a premade so

[fresh reef]

still need a deflector though

[young summit]

The emperor just gifted me a blue recon lasgun .... now im doubting my choices in life.

its absolutley mental at rak 12

[spark forum]

fair enough!! cant tell ya how many times a vet has ruined it for me in pug ><

[olive ember]

MM is a lot easier now with daemonhosts since you just get a shield ogryn to aggro it and sit in corner

[shadow quail]

My last force sword I got is power level 184 😢

[radiant jolt]

I did it with a Nergal, which imo is proably the worst one to do it on lmao

[burnt python]

mk V dueling sword heavies hit for like... 1200 a pop on mutants and dogs, which makes me wonder if it's bugged

and overperforming

[spark forum]

think i might dump mats into this

[olive ember]

It is since it’s grab attack means you cant have ogryn tank it as much

[robust meteor]

i do the first upgrade and trash it if its bad

[acoustic spade]

atleast it doesnt have a dash that randomly causes you to lose LoS on it and start the BB charge again

[jolly spear]

And the residue it leaves behind slows you, so it's rough to just kite it in circles.

[wide quest]

You got a whole month before the whole crafting system comes out so go for it

[jovial frigate]

im finally a cool kid now

[fresh reef]

full stats. this actually sounds a little nutty

dodge based melee? sounds n eat

[acoustic spade]

Bridge is the best for kiting it

[shell radish]

Is there any way to check which missions you still need to do for the "complete all missions" penance?

or just wildly guess

[olive ember]

Thx for reminding me I have to switch out my christmas hood

[jolly spear]

Is MM required for the 2nd Kinetic Killer tier penance?

[burnt python]

yes

[fresh reef]

holy mother of god

[olive ember]

Got the damn Christmas hood to finally match with the red theme, then I immediately got MM achieve right after so now my chest is black now

[fresh reef]

ass blessing but jesus

[acoustic spade]

I wish I could get cliffhanger done at somepoint but I've just given up on it

[remote pulsar]

which psyker chest is that? from penance?

[candid hawk]

Its lit gimme data cubes

[olive ember]

Paid

[burnt python]

$$$

[acoustic spade]

6/7 life with a full horde pack of enemies going over the ledge

[remote pulsar]

oh 😦

[acoustic spade]

how didmpeople ever get 20

[fresh reef]

mine bugged lol

[harsh copper]

with patience and teamwork

[devout axle]

Exactly this

[wide quest]

Your local psych ward

[candid hawk]

One thing to note when pushing things off, the higher your peril when you use your ability the stronger the force of the push

[jovial frigate]

i did mine solo on a t5 endless horde on the bridge map

[wide quest]

With the emperor's blessing

[olive ember]

Got a friend to shield ogryn tank on like difficulty 2 endless horde near a like catwalk thing at the start of chasm logistratum

Let em build up and then I iumped off and pushed them from the side and got the achieve

[burnt python]

did not know this

have you tested/confirmed?

[candid hawk]

yes it changes the range too, use the soulblaze tallent and check for yourself

[jolly spear]

At the end of the Omelette Assassination mission, during the boss fight there is a catwalk that enemies will jump down from and they land right in front of a railing-less pit. Best spot I have found to do it.

[candid hawk]

low peril you dont soulblaze a whole lot, full peril you can get soulblaze on a whole room

[burnt python]

good to know, thanks.

[olive ember]

That requires getting to the end of the level, it’s a lot easier to just repeat via chasm logistratum where there’s a catwalk thingy at the start

[radiant jolt]

Chasm Logi on the tiny bridge next to the big one and an shield org are all I needed

[weak galleon]

get force sword.
go on some ledge.
get surrounded by Endless Hordes on T4+
use your ulti, and then spam block-push (not push attack) to throw of as many as possible within 2 seconds.

thats how i did cliffhanger with 20.

[jolly spear]

The other one is the Investigation mission with the Nurgle tree at the end, and on the last stretch when running to the transport you run along a yellow pipe with one wall entirely missing that enemies will jump down on which is where I got it.

[burnt python]

the end of the water supply mission makes it easy to get 7 organically now too without a bunch of team setup

[acoustic spade]

didnt work for me, I even had like 90 peril at that point

[acoustic spade]

water supply mission?

[burnt python]

i'll find the name, 1 sec

[jolly spear]

Yeah that one was too early in the level for me to be able to get randos to be on board with helping in time. No one knows what a co-op game is and is oblivious to the existence of text chat so it takes me half the level of getting their attention before they notice what I am asking for lol.

[iron flame]

Huh

[jolly spear]

And I'm too lazy to reactivate my voice chat since it re-mutes it every time I launch the game for some reason.

[iron flame]

Would push "attack" from force sword he better?

[burnt python]

Silo Cluster 18-66/a

[acoustic spade]

sounds like a mission I never run

[fast slate]

does anyone know if there is going to be a battle pass?

[jolly spear]

I did a combo of using the force sword push to corral them, then F and push spam to send the group over the edge.

[fresh reef]

Had a shower thought. The main issue with BB is that it's too slow for the damage it does yeah?

[olive ember]

Push attack on sword is good for going out with a bang and pick n mix

[acoustic spade]

is it one of those investigation/spy missions?

[burnt python]

its strike or raid iirc. The last section before extraction involves lots of hordes crossing small bridges to you

[jolly spear]

Doubt it, that would mean giving premium items for free simply by playing the game.

[iron flame]

Damage too low as well if you are above Malice

[pale scarab]

Finding out that perils in the warp doesnt oneshot ragers on heresy was table flip inducing when going for that penance

[iron flame]

Soo a totally useless Bliz skill that is just ignored the higher difficulty you go

I am just hoping they do a rework

[zinc gorge]

Yeah that level 10 feat needs a rework.

[iron flame]

Well a mini one

[fresh reef]

Something that might remedy the issue is being able to charge it to full and cap peril at say 20%, only increasing to 45% after a pop

[pale scarab]

Except for sniping gunners & snipers& bombers (with nothing else around you)

[fresh reef]

That way you effectively have a way to instachunk a targets hp

With dogs and bombers this would leave them with barely any hp

[zinc gorge]

Does BB damage improve with stacks?

[orchid dirge]

not much

[zinc gorge]

Damn

[fresh reef]

Marginally. Doesn't hit any break points

[burnt python]

reposting for relevance:

[fair garnet]

any blessing for the voidstaff i need to keep an eye out for?

[iron flame]

Yea I mean if the vet can't get a good line of sight sure.

[fresh reef]

Except like, Heresy dogs I think?

[midnight bluff]

which lasgun is the one that makes the cool noise, the recon lasgun

[teal cargo]

Man why is BB get much worse at Heresy?

[orchid dirge]

honestly im gonna lvl up other classes while psyker goes in the oven (hopefully)

[burnt python]

enemy hp values take massive jumps at heresy & damnation

[marble marten]

are they gonna buff psyker i feel like im tickling people

[teal cargo]

I wonder if BB will ever get buffed 😔

[burnt python]

this is not my data fyi, source: https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/z7vxbi/psykers_bb_and_charges_the_numbers_tell_you_that/

[pale scarab]

BB needs scaling or to be reworked

[teal cargo]

Shod at least be able to take out hounds in one

[acoustic spade]

Just purely saying "Breakpoints" is kind of not a good point if you want to, say, kill a Rager, just because the "pure mathematics approach" forgets stuff like, possible flamer ticks from a zealot or something like that

[olive ember]

When the hound only has 6 hp less than the mauler on damnation

[fresh reef]

2000 damage BB when?

[iron flame]

Honestly feel like they can just add like double damage when used on elite and specialist

[jolly spear]

With the risk that using BB proposes especially at higher difficulties, it should honestly be one-shotting anything that isn't a mutant or a mauler imo

[burnt python]

hound has weird ass dmg scaling, certain melee weapons do like 3x dmg to it (mutant too), for example mk V dueling sword

[marble marten]

yeah takes like 2 or 3 at damnation/ heresy

[zinc gorge]

Leveling a Psyker is misleading. The game leads you to believe that you’re the Special/Elite killer because of some of the earlier feats and 1-shot BB on low difficulty. The reality is that you must accept that Psyker is more about horde clear/support/special case elite clear.

[pale scarab]

Agreed but add the ogrynn to that list

[iron flame]

Yea that is what pisses me off.

Like the game even said elite special killer in char creation

[teal cargo]

yea!

and this BB just feels sucky at doimg that

[burnt python]

honestly bb with the rapid charge trait is really good for deleting those groups of shotgunners that spawn on damnation

but its use is too niche for being such a staple of the feat tree

[teal cargo]

plus hard to do if theres a big horde in the way

[burnt python]

nah bb favors elites/specials

and tagged enemies

[full bane]

Really want to get my hands on the 2 handed Force Sword that was shown in the trailer

[burnt python]

if you tag you can target thru horde

[iron flame]

I had a lot of thoughts on how to improve it but I am not the game dev so I am just going to pray they do something about it

[teal cargo]

yea

[bleak sonnet]

with the feat its good at killing ragers maulers gunner shotgunners and helping do damage to crushers/bulwarks

[acoustic spade]

I know what people are getting at with "breakpoints" as shots to kill is an important metric, but if you miss a breakpoint by 10-20 dmg for example, that should be taken into account

[pale scarab]

Problem with using BB on heresy and damnation is that the areas you would use it on always have horde mobs, and you are one tap away from instant death

[teal cargo]

i wish BB could be good

[bleak sonnet]

i use bb a lot and have no issues

lol

[acoustic spade]

sure, its not entirely "solo taking care of an elite" but thats still more relevant than actually having to do one more BB

[burnt python]

the feat makes it feel so much better, still pretty meh tho

[pale scarab]

You can swap off of controlling the horde to BB if your zealot and/or Ogrynn have literally no bleed through controlling the horde mobs for you to do the long cast on higher difficulties

[iron flame]

Like my ideas are basically either doubled damage if used on elite and special so it is not ridicously good at killing boss. Or a charge system where we get empowered BB that do high damage, instant cast every eh say 30 second

[acoustic spade]

feel free to cancel me from the sibling society for thinking that :P

[bleak sonnet]

my usual rotation is staff until i need to vent peril and have six stacks, ult to vent peril, then cast bbs with cast bonus on eites

i rack up kills

[burnt python]

I play very similarly but run kinetic flayer instead

[burnt python]

as far as i can tell void does not trigger kinetic flayer so you can bank it for whackin an elite in the head w/ melee

[zinc gorge]

BB is good situationally. I use it in Heresy/Damnation too. It still deals a lot of damage and can save your team ammo. Can any other class with a gun kill your target faster? Most definitely. A good veteran will outkill you every time.

[iron flame]

I hereby cancel you from sibling society lul.

[full bane]

Been running the edging peril build, it’s a lot of fun

[olive ember]

People are saying that it might just be a heavy sword, which sucks on my zealot atleast

[iron flame]

Just kidding. I have no such power

[full bane]

God I hope not

That’d suck

[teal cargo]

Are Veterans good at killing everything 👀

[bleak sonnet]

2h force sword will suck lets be honest, fatshark is dogshit at balancing 2h weapons, 1h always superior

[pale scarab]

99/100 I’m better off staffing where I would have BB’d on malice and below

[iron flame]

Yes... I would say?

Outside of sanctus redactus bosses

[loud violet]

That feeling when you're trying to mind burst something and your team takes it as a sign to focus fire it.

[zinc gorge]

No. Not everything.

[olive ember]

BB is basically “oh fml 5 gunners and a sniper are suppressing my vet” and that’s the most use I have out of it past malice

[loud violet]

What aren't they good at killing

[teal cargo]

oh?

[loud violet]

I see veterans practically doing everything with bolters

lmao

[zinc gorge]

BB is especially good for the stagger and cause shields to drop.

[iron flame]

Depend on the weapon they used. They can be good at killing a lot of things. But there are still weak point I would say

[crisp yacht]

What is BB?

[loud violet]

Brain burst

[zinc gorge]

Brain Burst

[olive ember]

Brain Burst, psykers head pop

[teal cargo]

I guess Veterans arent very good at hoard killing

[radiant jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-blast-jimmy-neutron-jimbo-gif-26286685

[teal cargo]

since more elite dmg

[olive ember]

HA have you seen the power sword

[feral ember]

they are with power sword

[full bane]

Power Sword has entered the chat

[teal cargo]

Oh

[loud violet]

I still dont quite get this

[teal cargo]

I guess Veterans arent very good at boss killing

[olive ember]

boltgun

[feral ember]

they are supper good

[burnt python]

veterans are fantastic for boss killing ifyou have good aim

[smoky lance]

The cliffhanger penance is stinky ew gross

[teal cargo]

I guess Veterans are not very good at tanking?

[pale scarab]

The only thing bolter sorta struggled with is cross map sniping

[burnt python]

highest toughness in the game

[lilac hamlet]

Full auto bolter volley fire enters chat..... boss deleted leaves chat

[wide quest]

You're lucky you only need to do 7

[feral ember]

300 toughness with option on skill use regenerete 60% off it??

[burnt python]

tanking really isn't a thing in this game tho

[teal cargo]

Hmmm I guess Veterans are just at good at everything then

[feral ember]

look like it

[smoky lance]

I know. And it still sucks because noone in their right mind would want to be next to an edge witha horde on them

[loud violet]

i just need another hit

[olive ember]

Don’t forget their funny infinite bleed nades in case their power swords weren’t enough

[full bane]

I’ve never tried the dueling sword, how does it feel/handle?

[iron flame]

There is a reason bolter force sword combo is really scary

[teal needle]

BB is awkward. It needs to be better than it is but not a reason to never pull out your weapons. And peril isn't a very good way of limiting it. Don't know what the solution is though.

[wide quest]

Anyone who wants to and has done the penance

[olive ember]

I refuse to use the boltgun on vet recon lasgun forever

[iron flame]

Opps power sword

😅

[loud violet]

It's one of those things that's easy to do if you have a team that's willing to help

[olive ember]

Also bolters kinda meh against mass shooter spam iirc

[smoky lance]

Whats the best mission for it?

[loud violet]

I found a group of randomers who were doing it

[teal cargo]

Powersword Bolter a good combo?

[lilac hamlet]

Da

[loud violet]

Chasm logistratum

[wide quest]

I literally got it by accident on endless horde heresy

[lilac hamlet]

Is best commando combo

[teal needle]

They do different things. Lasgun is better for dealing with ranged enemies

Boltgun melts elites but is otherwise kind of clumsy

[teal cargo]

Meanwhile just feels psyker can only block very good 😆

[subtle linden]

siblings

[burnt python]

mk 12 lasgun deletes elites just as quick as bolter

[teal cargo]

But block is fun

[pale scarab]

I like using my surge staff to ~kill~ the ranged mobs that beat the piss out of people

[olive ember]

Power sword + bolter = anti-ogryn, anti-boss

Power sword + lasgun = anti shooter spam

Power sword + plasma gun = special snipe

[teal cargo]

Oh surge staff good at killing gunners?

[bleak sonnet]

bro said plasma

opinion invalid

[pale scarab]

Since the scaling changes I’m oneshotting groups of them on heresy and stopping them from picking apart my team

[jolly spear]

Plasma pistol for other classes when?

[subtle linden]

psykers have more muscle mass than veteran and thus can lift up a boltergun

we should get it too

[olive ember]

Oh no I never use a plasma gun lmao, but if you bring one that’s the roll you are expected to fill

[subtle linden]

[burnt python]

plasma worse than bolter/las in every scenario except pesky gunners behind cover

honestly the only thing bolter has over mk 12 las is crusher killing

[teal cargo]

Can we kill bosses with Surge?

[olive ember]

Instead of brain burst, our grenade should just be to pull out a force enhanced boltgun with one full magazine

[pale scarab]

Deflector force sword + peril=block is also dank memes. Chad psyker stands in front of the ogrynn protecting the goodest boys

[shadow quail]

You can watch a vet kill it while using surge

[wide quest]

You very well can

[uncut violet]

Unfortunately gotta agree, plasmagun needs some love, boltgun outshines it in almost every situation

[pale scarab]

Force sword special for monstrosities

[olive ember]

How good is mk 12 las vs mk VId recon las

[burnt python]

someone yesterday said in their testing that chainsword did more dmg than force even for psyker lol

[teal cargo]

so surge aoe good for killing groups of shooters?

[burnt python]

mk 12 is the best gun in the game imo

hits like a fuckin truck, fast fire rate, perfectly accurate, never runs out of ammo

[olive ember]

Maybe I had bad chainsword but force consistently did more damage then chain sword, it also has better shove and push attack imo

[bleak tulip]

the next one's gonna be a good one I can feel it

[signal turret]

The best

[burnt python]

ya the shove & followup are its best feature imo

[teal cargo]

What to do if Trauma staff gets nerfed some more?

[shadow quail]

cry

[pale scarab]

Might be true but chain sword cant roll deflector, and the damage is comparable and both do pretty good since the scaling changes (you gotta headshot with the special from force sword)

[zinc gorge]

Yes, thank you. Deflector is so damn good.

[burnt python]

hs matters for the force special? interesting

[olive ember]

I find I want to not headshot against maulers with force sword, atleast that’s how the numbers show in the meat grinder

[teal cargo]

Can dueling sword get deflector?

[olive ember]

Nope

[burnt python]

its force sword exclusive

[teal cargo]

ooof

[burnt python]

(dueling still better imo)

[teal cargo]

I see, how useful is deflector?

[pale scarab]

Well yeah their head is armored, I’m sorry I said headshot when I should have said weak point

[arctic rampart]

I believe Maulers have impossibru armor on their head, and only slightly good armor everywhere else.

[burnt python]

carapace on head, flak elsewhere

[iron flame]

Carapace armor too strok

[pale scarab]

Maulers die too fast from vet’s bolters anyway

[teal cargo]

dueling still has good block?

[burnt python]

it has low stamina but the dodge is reaaaallly good

[olive ember]

Oh yeah I knew that but was always a bit confused cuz I thought force weapons should ignore armor

[arctic rampart]

One would think.

[burnt python]

you can circle dance around hordes all day

[teal cargo]

Oh

How bout knives?

[pale scarab]

I do want to get my hands on a good dueling sword for when I’m playing with bad zealots and ogrynns

[burnt python]

knives slightly more mobile than dueling, significantly worse for combat tho

[teal cargo]

Oh ooof

[burnt python]

mk V dueling in particular has an amazing move set

[zinc gorge]

Deflector is extremely useful in those situations where ranged trash will not close the gap and come to melee. But they’re too spread out to AoE. You use the feat that uses Peril instead of Stamina while blocking and you can literally walk up to 8 or 9 guys blasting. They’ll all then stop…. pull out their swords… and then you can kill them. Or you can walk towards enemies blocking, let them shoot you and your team kills.

[candid hawk]

I like good ole force sword

[teal cargo]

Oooh nice!

[pale scarab]

But in a decent group where we’re in coherence and I get to play with what I want, force/surge is my favorite combo for the average group

[olive ember]

Went into veteran channel and they are discussing the degrees of gay in relation with ogryns

[teal cargo]

so its a good combo to do with force?

[iron flame]

Is mkv the combat axe that is said to have really good push attack to cleave and everything else for armored?

[olive ember]

So I guess I’ll just stay here for veteran chat

[burnt python]

it's one of those abilities that will help you carry a strugglign team, but it's almost useless in a good team

[burnt python]

yes

[teal cargo]

Really?

[violet crown]

HELLO AGAIN PSYKERS! I RETURN TO REMIND YOU THAT YOU ALL SERVE THE RUINOUS POWERS AND I WILL PERSONALLY PUT A LASER THROUGH YOUR CORRUPTED BRAIN.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

Yours,
-Gad

[zinc gorge]

I humbly disagree.

[bleak sonnet]

deflector isnt useless in a good team lol, just increases your clear speed

[pale scarab]

The groups I play with mostly struggle with the trash mobs with guns, deflector saves the day then

[weak galleon]

oh my. First 490 voidstrike, now this, from mission.
Emperor is finally benevolent to me. After 120 hours. ust the sheer fact i'm getting orange stuff, even with bad base.

Though I wish it didn't have friggin 80 quell. Guess my luck isn't there yet.

[olive ember]

Go take a look at the vets, they are currently discussing whether or not their relationships with ogryn are gay or not

[burnt python]

if your team is efficiently clearing ranged boys it loses a ton of value, but that is rare rn

[violet crown]

WHUH

[burnt python]

yep its really strong for that

[iron flame]

Dialogues like these are why I will never play zealot

[olive ember]

Have fun

[teal needle]

Agreed. Some things are better for pugs than premades and some things are better at filling gaps in team comps even if they aren't objectively good. Any "best" or "meta" designations are subject to these caveats

[burnt python]

100% agree

[warm flame]

asking here since #general-chat is full of bullshit. Anyone have seen any Flash mission already ?

[teal cargo]

why cant we throw grenDez?

[bleak tulip]

not in yet afaik

[acoustic spade]

Not a bad one for an Emperor's Gift

[signal turret]

This is why I run FS/Surge primarily. If im playing with friends I feel like I can use the other staffs but for randos FS/Surge is the best combo i've noticed that will carry across all rando skill levels

[teal cargo]

How bout FS/Purg?

[wanton cove]

I’m still just on malice difficulty but getting a bit tired of my force sword. May need to look into some other options or just experiment more

[burnt python]

I actually feel like surge struggles in bad teams at high difficulty, cus the stunned shit doesnt die lol

[iron flame]

Same here lol

[teal cargo]

But surge can kill things on its own right?

[burnt python]

It's still strong but void feels more self reliant

[teal cargo]

if you shock the. enough?

[wanton cove]

Yes…after a while

[olive ember]

Haven’t seen that mission type but you can do 7/7 still

[burnt python]

it kills flak enemies very efficiently, nothing else

[pale scarab]

Mine does on heresy and its not incredibly good

[warm flame]

how ?

[olive ember]

There’s 7 mission types not including flash lemme find them

[signal turret]

I agree with randos often not adequately focusing the CC, but this is why I just keep them CC'd until they do get to them. Also prevents their suicidal tendency to run out and get pelted by dozens of ranged.

[solar loom]

Does the Rending Detonation blessing not exist anymore? It was on that one website that lets you make a build, but now it's gone. I always thought that was the perfect blessing to get on my staff.

[olive ember]

Heresy Checklist

• Investigation
• Raid X
• Strike
• Espionage
• Assassination
• Disruption
• Repair X

Flash would be #8

[teal cargo]

what you do if you run out and get gunned down 😭

[burnt python]

I don't think flash is a "mission type", just some kind of temporary event

[hallow needle]

hello fellow superior psykers. Any tips for an up and coming inquisitor?

[burnt python]

hopefully we find out soon

[signal turret]

I have Deflector on my FS, cant remember the last time ive been downed by range lol

[warm flame]

looks like im missing raid, right ?

[olive ember]

It’s listed as a “mission type” in the spreadsheet somewhere but idk

[teal cargo]

oh wjat if your teams runs out and gets gunned down?

[iron flame]

Prepare to suffer in high difficulty because your iconic skill sucks

[burnt python]

oo interesting

[olive ember]

That idk you gonna have to check yourself 😅

[teal cargo]

Like Zealots that want to run up ahead?

[signal turret]

Kinetic Deflection on my FS with Deflector. I can just dodge slide to their failing flesh and pick them back up in the middle of hordes, elites, ranged, etc.

[warm flame]

raid does not show on Mission penance tab

so ill try it

[warm fulcrum]

Hey new psycker player is there a basic psyker builds somewhere around here

[pale scarab]

Getting 3% peril while blocking the demonhost is also hilarious. Everyone shits their pants and my force sword just sits there face tanking it

[teal cargo]

I see

[timber shale]

how viable is voidstrike staff on heresy+?

[teal cargo]

apparently the best staff

for doing dmg

[hallow needle]

im loving the void staff so far

just clear hordes

[olive ember]

How do you deal with quelling without mind in motion

[wispy tangle]

shout-out to the siblings who helped me finish my remaining psyker penances, ya'll rock

[burnt python]

I think ppl are massively undervalueing the slide right now, that shit is so good

[sly marsh]

void and purg still slap in 4-5, surge good too for utility

[teal needle]

Yeah voidstrike still kills shit well 4+

[signal turret]

Infinite dodges on FS, I dodge slide.

[pale scarab]

Honestly not that much faster than just quelling with a staff out and I use my ulti mostly

[burnt python]

do you run +stam?

[teal cargo]

What other classes van block ranged?

[zinc gorge]

Does it now? I’m gonna try this later. If this is a troll, I’ll still find it to be a good time. Lol

[olive ember]

Shield ogryn

[teal cargo]

Oh

[shadow quail]

Finally got a new force sword, first one since Monday 😆

[trim grove]

is anyone else having newfound game crashes while using the right clickon the voidstrike staff? just started happening today

[teal cargo]

are Ogryn good or they just slow and stupid?

[signal turret]

No, havent felt the need for it with Kinetic Deflection. Even with low stam the shove on FS still staggers dregs enough to circle hordes and mow them down safely

[timber shale]

it's a little early to say for sure, people are still figuring out what's good

[pale scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1044413619288412233/1047959717995106394/image.png

[wanton cove]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[burnt python]

Gotcha, i was thinking more for the sprint+slide closer, but wasn't sure if it felt necessary

[wanton cove]

Aint that the truth it feels awful to use

[iron flame]

Ezest emperor protect 3 penance of your life

[teal cargo]

whats inquisitor iconic?

[pale scarab]

Every attack the demon host does corrupt your healthbar though

[zinc gorge]

My god. Time to make my friends shit themselves. Eh that’s okay. Will be worth it.

[teal cargo]

even if blocked?

[olive ember]

Got that while leveling my ogryn by bracing with shield in front of like 3 Gunners and a reaper

Was hilarious

[hoary cairn]

the first time I got this was when I tried to block as much damage from the Possessed I could

[icy harbor]

seems to be an alright gun

but I don't use guns on psykers.....

[teal cargo]

What are you supposed to do when you get force choked by the Daemonhost?

[pale scarab]

Yea demon host corrupts even if blocked, its not too terrible though

[magic gull]

anyone know if warp charge 6 talent synergize with kinetic shield, on tooltip it just says 10-33

[shadow quail]

pray

[pale scarab]

That happens to downed players

[magic gull]

if i have 6 WC does it go higher?

[teal cargo]

Oh?

[olive ember]

Dps check, pray your team kills it before it kills you

[icy harbor]

I am pretty súre you die

[teal cargo]

yikes so mostly you just die?

[candid temple]

you die.

[timber shale]

idk but i doubt it

[teal cargo]

😔

[pale scarab]

Demon host attacks till it downs 2 people, force chokes them to casualty and then leaves if you dont kill it

[iron flame]

Ezest penance ever if you have that feat and demon host wailes on you

[icy harbor]

according to the description it should actually be worse since you now need more charges for the full 33%

[hoary cairn]

just block the damage the best you can

[teal cargo]

I see thx

[acoustic spade]

I've always been wondering, cause the force choke takes a while to happen, and they are revivable before the animation: If you have enough Revive speed (Ally) Curios, could you revive the person before he force chokes them to death?

[teal cargo]

What you do bout allies yhay just aggro the host and cause a lotta problems 😭

[iron flame]

Yea... Honestly I wouldn't go aggoring demon host even if they are a joke if you pick that feat

[magic gull]

ive only killed it twice, once in lower lvl, once in malice with 3 sharpshooter on my team

[olive ember]

Leave them to die and walk away

[timber shale]

the lvl 10 psykinetic wrath feat feels like a trap. Has anybody noticed the 5-15% damage changing breakpoints on the FS or staff?

[magic gull]

tbh most people dont aggro if you ping it out

[pale scarab]

I think it blocks the revive attempt at the start of the force choke, and it teleports to a downed player to start it

[burnt python]

I don't think hardly anything is known about weapon breakpoints atm. Very complicated with scaling dmg stat now

[olive ember]

victim 1 is the one who afforded it chooses victim 2 based off damage or proximity I believe so I just walk away and ignore it

[wanton cove]

Run faster then then 🤣

Them*

[olive ember]

I’ll help out if it looks like they might kill it or if we are actually prepared to kill it

[acoustic spade]

yeah but the bar has been so very close to finishing even without those curios if you're on-point with starting it... I wish I had the Curios for science.

[plush tendon]

rngesus blessed me when upgrading my FS

[olive ember]

If they aggro the damn thing in the middle of 20 shooters I’m running away and dealing with the shooters

[plush tendon]

finally let me replace my 270 - as i'm unwilling to give up deflector

[burnt python]

one person the other day showed you can 2 shot crushers w/ force sword using that trait, 3 w/o, but thats not with a perfectly rolled weapon

[pale scarab]

You might be able to, I prefer block efficiency, stamina and corruption resistance (all)

[acoustic spade]

It'd be for science only, not for an actual build

[magic gull]

also is quelling with a force staff faster than barehand? since it got quelling speed on stats sheet

[plush tendon]

yes

[pale scarab]

Yes and you walk faster with the staff out without the talent too

[olive ember]

Someone mentioned that corruption only gives a set amount of ho per class so it might be worth just increasing max hp

[candid temple]

damn

[teal cargo]

whats this about passive quelling while blocking with non FS?

is that a thing?

[jolly spear]

Surprised that no one's given me flak yet for using the las pistol instead of a staff half of the time

[olive ember]

For wte reason I thought quelling speed is how quickly you quell not how fast you move while quelling

[plush tendon]

yes - FS has a relatively fast passive quell, which also works while blocking

[pale scarab]

It works with any weapon it works best paired with deflector so you can block ranged attacks

[burnt python]

wait... its movement speed??

[olive ember]

Welp guess I’m swapping out mind in motion

Someone just said that like 3 min ago unless they are wrong

[burnt python]

i hope they are wrong lol

[pale scarab]

I dont think quelling speed is movement speed

[timber shale]

I'm pretty sure your original assumption was correct

[pale scarab]

But you could check with a weapon inspect in game

[magic gull]

the tooltips are indeed confusing on some stuff maa

[serene stone]

Pick n' mix is such a pain in the ass fucking 'a

[teal cargo]

Oh I see do you keep quelling while blocking hits?

[jolly spear]

If youre talking about the feat, yeah I am pretty sure it specifies movement speed. Because when you quell you slow down to a walk, that feat let's you maintain normal run speed.

[burnt python]

referring to weapon stat, not the feat

[olive ember]

Still gotta do that one too lmao yeah it’s a pain

[jolly spear]

Oh gotcha

[burnt python]

so much testing to be done, need j_sat

[plush tendon]

yep

[jolly spear]

Yeah for the stat I assumed it was the actual rate of which you quell peril, so higher stat would be faster quelling, since there is a feat that already 100% removes your movement penalty which would make that stat worthless and thus be a waste of a feat.

[olive ember]

How exactly does deflector with peril block work, like is it just infinite block or does it stop once you hit 97% peril

[burnt python]

Yeah, that is how I assumed it worked as well

[teal cargo]

So wtf if you vent faster than incoming hits are you blocking forever?

[plush tendon]

you can, yes

[burnt python]

does peril blocking not reset the passive quell timer? that seems like a bug

[magic gull]

yah, someone was trying to build a tank psyker cuz of that

[ebon jolt]

It does not.

[teal cargo]

I thoivht you just go to 100 and die

[plush tendon]

yea that's what i'm aiming for, i have 28% block reduction on curios, 9% on weap. when crafting is out i have another 15% ready to go

[olive ember]

Nah the perk says it stops once you hit critical peril so you’ll never die

[teal cargo]

ohh i see

[teal cargo]

Does BCR reduce peril?

[zinc gorge]

When you stop performing attacks that generate peril, peril will naturally decrease. If you have the FS out, this passive degeneration of peril is actually pretty quick. Deflector FS will have this passive drop while blocking. So you’ll be constantly losing peril from the passive decrease and gaining peril as attacks strike you.

[plush tendon]

i feel like it does, hard to test though

[olive ember]

Bruh alright I’m switching perks then lmao

[teal cargo]

and thej you got trait that gives toughness for losing Peril 👀

[olive ember]

Shhh stop talking

[glad tulip]

Any tips staying alive? Used to play with randos all the time that just leave me hanging solo without cover

[burnt python]

tru

delete

[olive ember]

Play selfishly, take cover, stay in cover

[teal cargo]

what if you see yoir buddy Veteran run out and keel over?

[burnt python]

quetitude is godlike on almsot any build

[zinc gorge]

Is it really? I’ve never actually tested it out.

[teal cargo]

betyer than gaining toigness for warp cjarges?

[burnt python]

it's the only way to reliably regen toughness during tough single target encounters

[sour marten]

Do you guys prefer the Mk 4 dueling sword or Mk 5? Is there a big difference?

[burnt python]

it's also triggered by your ult, passive & active quelling, battle meditation, and quell on hs void trait

[olive ember]

It’s mostly good because you can passively vent to gain toughness and you almost always gain a bunch of peril via staffs or bb

[burnt python]

5 has the best moveset imo

[glad tulip]

They do like to play speedrunning in this game, trying to run as fast to the end as possible

[teal cargo]

Yea and you can gain peril for blocking

[sinful stream]

Like it gives toughness for passive peril drain not manually quelling?

[south monolith]

I have curios with block efficiency and deflector provides some as well. I also have extra stam. Peril for blocking stops at 80% I believe. I never reeach from gunfire. Only from tanking Daemonhosts at threat 4+

[sour marten]

Then i'll try it out. Thank you

[burnt python]

anything that reduces your peril gives toughness, including passive

[teal cargo]

yep passive drain also gives toughness

[sinful stream]

That's rad

[burnt python]

its so good

[zinc gorge]

Really… hmmm that’s better than I expected.

[teal cargo]

Yea Psyker is Bardin IB

block build

[olive ember]

Oh then do the same thing, just slide between cover, prob run a flame or voidstrike staff over surge

If you get a force sword with deflector and peril blocking you can also tank and act as mobile cover

[burnt python]

real chads will run trauma to knock shit down and just run past lol

[zinc gorge]

I dismissed quietude earlier, but now that I have staves with good quell speed…

[olive ember]

Lmao you can do the same thing with voidstrike tho

[glad tulip]

I do have deflector, yes. I cannot seem to find purgatory in shop eh

[olive ember]

And more range with less peril too

[burnt python]

trauma can knjockdown maulers n shit with less charge, but yes

i think void only staggers maulers

[teal cargo]

How bout Purg? can you roast maulers?

[burnt python]

very slowly, yes lol

[teal cargo]

💀

[south monolith]

Toughness on force kill feels better imo when you can murder with voidstaff.

[burnt python]

purge takes a long time to kill anything

[teal cargo]

I see so whats purg good for?

[burnt python]

brainless horde clear

[olive ember]

Alternative on purge prob run 30% toughness on warp charge

[burnt python]

void better for horde clearing if you aim still imo

[teal cargo]

I see murder hordes?

[hallow needle]

anyone else think they should add a button like in deep rock galactic so your character just screams "FOR THE EMPEROR" ?

[silk finch]

whats a good level 15 perk

[burnt python]

it's better for spike regen, but quietitude can be triggered manually any time, no need for mobs to kill

[teal cargo]

yea