psyker-class

[warm meteor]

i never played runescape, im like 23

[frigid plume]

thats called an appeal to authority fallacy

[shell radish]

lmao some fucking people

[bold maple]

finally someone young like me

I swear only ancient fossil play this game

[soft hamlet]

This game is very zoomer friendly

[potent echo]

What did he mean by that

[signal turret]

Why do I feel like he only said that after sucking and dying lol

[spark niche]

eew, zoomers

[shell radish]

he split the group by running off by himself and dying

[clear heath]

vet main moment

[bold maple]

z**mers censor the slur pls

[shell radish]

vet players cant just light attack to win

[potent echo]

Power sword crutch moment

[shell radish]

so he was complaining about psyker "shitty powersword" lmao

[frigid plume]

tfw oldest a zoomer can get

[mellow crescent]

blessed boomer zoomer

[frigid plume]

tbh it beats being a millennial

[uncut hamlet]

A lot of the 40k fan base are older is what I've noticed

[signal turret]

tfw youngest a millennial can get

[uncut hamlet]

Not a bad thing, just an observation

[frigid plume]

literally born 20 days into the start of that generation

[warm meteor]

asking someone background to know where the opinion comes from isnt appealing to authority. im not saying someone is right because they are an authority figure, im wondering if im talking to someone with a background in the field or a layman to measure the casualness of the opinion. if ur a layman then i require less scrutiny as this is a normal convo. but an expert would require more scrutiny to see if what they are saying is simple opinion or them making a scientific claim

[frigid plume]

not stating an opinion stating a fact

[warm meteor]

but idk if it is one, so ill operate on it being an opinion

[frigid plume]

also T someone who is also labeled ASD

[uncut hamlet]

Shh let's not argue, enough of that on the subreddit. This discord has been a breathe of fresh air so far

[potent echo]

It's canon then, the dc-ing kerrilian main are powersword vets

[warm meteor]

its safer in casual conversation to do that

[hard breach]

Maia just dunno how to use it. Stay with the team on a team game idiot

[uncut hamlet]

I'm enjoying just discussing the game without people raging

[frigid plume]

ew reddit

[compact cargo]

Add qol to bb

[uncut hamlet]

I didn't know Darktide had a discord till a couple days ago so I was on the reddit

[warm meteor]

i use reddit for porn and to find DND games

[uncut hamlet]

It's such a shit show there

[bold maple]

im just here to make terrible jokes tbh, but people are so serious these days

[ornate hamlet]

sssh lets not talk about real life and play vidya game like retards

[warm meteor]

woah

[potent echo]

Reddit

[warm meteor]

hard R?

can you say that

lol

[bold maple]

you bet I can regard

[regal raft]

Yeah, good thing I’m not asking that, I’m asking to read the description the devs put in, realize what it’s saying, which posted in chat for people to read, and take what they say as value, and if you don’t believe it to then try it out yourself to prove it.

And magically everyone says I was right with what I pointed to from what the devs themselves typed, again, and magically the person who actively and stubbornly tries to claim otherwise and ignore what people tell them stubbornly ignores what was told to them.

Either way, doesn’t matter now, the conversation is over, it’s not going to happen again, I didn’t block them the last several times because I felt there was something of value or some valuable discussion to be had with them, I was wrong, I cannot have a discussion with them, therefore they’re blocked, they’re nolonger a concern for me to try and help with.

If people insist the world is flat, I can’t do anything about it or convince them otherwise, so I shouldn’t.

Problem solved, time for food.

[uncut hamlet]

Is it offensive? Never had a definitive answer on that

[warm meteor]

safe

[uncut hamlet]

Didn't even seem to be a problem till a year ago ish

[frigid plume]

Ill be honest with you, admitting you get your porn from reddit is like saying you get it from the dark web

[uncut hamlet]

From my perspective at least

[uncut hamlet]

R/hentai is mostly safe

[hard breach]

Depends. Some people are some are not offended by it

[bold maple]

oh we talkin about reddit porn now?

[frigid plume]

thats still like saying /d/ is safe lmao

[signal turret]

Hadron would turn half of this heretical chat into the next set of servitor doorknobs

[warm meteor]

that someone believes whats written in the level 30 feat is correct but just written oddly and that the level 30 feat isnt a blatant lie is baffling

[potent echo]

Pieces of my mind floating away..

[frigid plume]

tfw no big tiddy tech priest waifu

[bold maple]

he's right that's pretty safe and tame, wait til you to go the furry side

[warm meteor]

i want to be hadrons toaster

[mellow crescent]

the absolute state of psyker chat

[signal turret]

Emperor protect me from this chat

[bold maple]

you heard how daemon host whispers to us? they're telling us to make a fursona

[frigid plume]

to clarify this is lore friendly just read mechanicum

[warm meteor]

what

[potent echo]

Warp use sanctioned

[bold maple]

source: trust me bro

[hard breach]

A tech priest would not bother with having big fleshy bits like tits. The flesh is weak

[mellow crescent]

I can't wait for the mod that gives us the psyker voicelines from DoW

[frigid plume]

I imagine being a psyker in 40k is like having this chat played in your head with text to speech

[clear heath]

I’m asking to read the description the devs put in
but it is objectively incorrect. "Killed by" can only point to cause of death. They said "killed by your soulblaze effects (from any source)"
This means things that are killed by any source of soulblaze effects. We both know this is wrong. I don't know why you insist on telling us to read it. We are reading it correctly. It is written wrong.

[compact cargo]

As most things are in fatshark games

[warm meteor]

i am so bothered by this

[uncut hamlet]

LMAO

[compact cargo]

BUFF DOT

[warm meteor]

first they misread a chapter in a 40k book

[uncut hamlet]

We're who the psyker is shushing

[frigid plume]

real question, who is the psykers beloved?

[uncut hamlet]

What would y'all change about the psyker btw? I honestly feel like it's the worst class despite putting a hundred or so hours on it

Not to say it's useless or unplayable

[bold maple]

your anime waifu doesn't exist seer

[warm meteor]

now they are telling me im too stubborn (true) for not agreeing that the devs wrote the correct thing just in a misleading way (false)

[bold maple]

we talked about this before

[uncut hamlet]

Just the feats don't seem great

[frigid plume]

inb4 valentines day event for it

[bold maple]

2D isnt real

[shell radish]

how am I supposed to properly play this class man

[clear heath]

Do something about brain burst and warp charges, idk specifically what though.

[frigid plume]

pfft anime lmao

[uncut hamlet]

On vet for example, I always know what I want based on what I wanna do

[warm meteor]

triple warp charge damage boost mwuahahaha

[shell radish]

I never get anyone who can watch my back for 2 seconds so I can brainburst gunners and stuff

[warm meteor]

actually

[frigid plume]

big breasts are best used as external heat sinks

[warm meteor]

make warp charge a boost to charge speed

[shell radish]

like I get 3 zealots that all unga bunga the same trashpack lol

[warm meteor]

omh

[uncut hamlet]

Saw smth on the subreddit about changing the bb to a channel dot instead, what do you think of that?

[warm meteor]

is warp charge stacks effected charge speed, then BB would be better! staffs would be better!

it would be glorious

[uncut hamlet]

That would be nice actually yea

[bold maple]

nah we have enough dot, we need instant burst

[uncut hamlet]

But then warp charges are even more necessary

[clear heath]

play malice and it feels like a good class with a bunch of decent tools to play with.
play any higher and you are degraded to only being a spammable 5 target stun grenade, and occasionally popping snipers

[clear heath]

I think the idea has potential

[uncut hamlet]

It would end up doing the same amount of damage in the same channel time, but would allow you to use less time on poxwalkers for example or more time on tankier enemies

[wise stag]

Allow psykers to generate warp charges with any warp infused weapons (staffs, warpsword)

[warm meteor]

yeah a channel dot would be dope, kill pox walkers instantly for practically free

[clear heath]

I think i saw the same thread as well, and i thought it was an interesting idea

it could be pretty nice

[warm meteor]

you could just spam g key vs horde lol

[uncut hamlet]

I find purgatus is perfectly viable for heresy at least, haven't tried damnation

[warm meteor]

b-b-b-b--b-b-b-b-b-b bang

[uncut hamlet]

Especially the sword

[frigid plume]

force sword special attack should count as a headpop

[warm meteor]

if any warp based kill gave a charge then that would be nuts

[hard breach]

It does pop heads so yes I agree

[warm meteor]

imagine how much blaze the level 25 ability could give

[half rivet]

Maybe a chance?

Like 10% chance with staff, higher with sword

[warm meteor]

technically we got a feat for that, and its like one of the best feats

[acoustic spade]

I wish Psykers could just get Deflector on this sword as well

[bold maple]

you guys having issue with getting warp charge? I thought that isnt an issue lmao

[acoustic spade]

I'd be down for it ":D"

[frigid plume]

I have never actually seen deflecter yet

[half rivet]

Seems like something that should be base kit

[warm meteor]

getting them faster would make them more helpful overall

[bold maple]

psychic communion + flayer always top it of, we dont need more ways to get warp charge, we need more dmg

[clear heath]

I don't have issues with warp charges either.
It's a shame i'm basically being forced to take certain feats to fix holes in the psyker's base kit tho

[bold maple]

or instant brainburst on expending warp charge or something

[acoustic spade]

that locks you into going for communion+flayer, making builds more stale

[warm meteor]

instant BB with 6 charges could be dope burst damahe

that would like, melt a boss

not kill them tho

[bold maple]

right? instead of channeling give me finger snaps

[warm meteor]

but its decent damage

[bold maple]

snap snap snap, bb bb bb

[void pasture]

Worth charging the Lightning Staff or just spam it?

[half rivet]

I am a new Psyker player, and i feel like with random people i struggle cause i need to be defended

[clear heath]

I just spam lightning

I almost never charge unless there's extra time between waves where i'm doing literally nothing else

[warm meteor]

there are rare times its worth to charge. but 90 percent of the time spam

[clear heath]

or like, if i'm just hiding under cover waiting for toughness to regen ig

[warm meteor]

only charge when you want more damage. and even then the damage is just a supplement

[clear heath]

basically if i have spare time where i'd otherwise do nothing

[uncut hamlet]

I saw it once at lv 10 lmao and never again

[warm meteor]

like the boost in damage for charging is solid vs enemies who wear armour. but it doesnt ever approach the other staffs and CC is definitely what you want to maximize

[clear heath]

I have deflecter on my force sword. Pretty nice

[void pasture]

As a Zealot I LOVE to have a Psyker with Lightning Staff, still trying to figure out the ropes of it 🙂

[warm meteor]

i still dont got a deflector swprd

[acoustic spade]

This is something I always question when playing with the Flamestaff and Voidstrike staff as well. Should I charge up or not? With Voidstrike 2 uncharged balls basically kills anything that would die to charged Voidstrike ball

[warm meteor]

im gonna check the shop again

[clear heath]

I hope you bought it. One of the dev posts mentioned the crafting system letting you extract weapon perks from other weapons and applying them to others

One day in 500 years when they finally finish crafting, that deflector sword will be useful

[uncut hamlet]

I did and used it, but discarded before I found out about how the future crafting system would work

[clear heath]

rip

[uncut hamlet]

It was an upgraded deflector too

I also figured I'd be able to get another

I was naive back then

[acoustic spade]

You know what would be nice

if you could bank store refreshes

[tame rampart]

Would you guys say purgatus or surge staff for like level 15 psyker or kind of just go with what you like?

[acoustic spade]

like you'd get one every hour

[compact cargo]

bb qol when

[uncut hamlet]

I charge flame when there's a horde running at me and there's time to. It stalls the entire horde and gives so much breathing room

Close range I mostly use the left clicks to cc

And finish off with sword

[bold maple]

purge beat surge in every way, surge only get an argument in high difficulty

[warm meteor]

yeah grabbing it even if it was a bad sword wouldve let you put the blessing on a great sword once crafting is unlocked i think

[acoustic spade]

and then it'd forces refresh automatically every 4 hours or something with 4 being the maximum amount of refreshes

[uncut hamlet]

For 15 go with what you like, but both are viable

[uncut hamlet]

I grabbed it but discarded after because I didn't read up on the future crafting :(

[warm meteor]

oof

how do you discard?

[clear heath]

I like surge more just cause it lets you stagger bulwarks through their shields, letting your team dps them. I'm biased though cause i personally don't like how purgatus feels.
People who use purgatus more than me generally say it's good though

[warm meteor]

it gives you money right

[uncut hamlet]

I still use purge on heresy regularly and do well

[warm meteor]

i have junk weapons

[uncut hamlet]

Yea it gives money

[bold maple]

yea im a purge staff simp, surge can go suck my nut

[uncut hamlet]

I think it's x?

[bold maple]

im nobody's stunbot, im here to kill stuff

[uncut hamlet]

Should be in the bottom right or smth

[warm meteor]

just in my inventory?\

[uncut hamlet]

Yup

[regal raft]

Read what I said prior, you can figure it out yourself, because it’s almost like I told them to /to read it because it was incorrect/

Go reread the conversation over, I don’t understand why you keep acting like context to the conversation doesn’t matter, it’s almost like you jsut want to focus on a single narrative to convince yourself otherwise. I can’t imagine someone who is defending another person who did the exact same thing and has a pattern of doing it every time they talk as also doing it.

Fun fact, pointing out bullshit is easier then you saying it, be careful when you say bullshit. Especially when it contradicts what you are explicitly telling me right now.

Enjoy the rest of your night, because you’re clearly not worth my night.

[vivid merlin]

what melee do you use with surge

[uncut hamlet]

Shhh let's not argue

The fact that people talk and have fun here is so nice

I've been on the subreddit too much

[warm meteor]

ur breaking my heart ;-;

[uncut hamlet]

I played with surge for a bit and I can definitely see the utility

[acoustic spade]

But... It is the internet. Arguing is the only thing its good for.

[uncut hamlet]

But setting everything on fire just gives dopamine to some part of my monkey brain

[warm meteor]

surge has moments when it makes me sad. its auto targetting is a weakness at times

void never makes me sad

[bold maple]

ew another void simp

[uncut hamlet]

Void rail gun is something to behold for sure

[warm meteor]

dont worry, my second fave is purge

[uncut hamlet]

I hope they make trauma better

Conflag was one of my favorites on sienna

[warm meteor]

honestly if i ever get a deflector sword i might just go all melee all the time

[uncut hamlet]

Just no real reason to use it over the others rn

[uncut hamlet]

You're making me wanna check the shop

[clear heath]

Sorry, i was just bothered by the fact that someone told me i was reading it wrong when in fact it was written wrong. I don't understand why you would ask people to read something because it's incorrect though. I don't see how that helps anyone.

[acoustic spade]

Surge targeting is one of the weakpoints of the staff for sure

[clear heath]

At least they fixed surge not targeting down stairs

it was like the buggiest weapon in the game during the beta

[acoustic spade]

I just wish the staffs had more uniqueness instead of just their rightclick being different

[clear heath]

I wonder what the weapon special on staves were meant for

[warm meteor]

@clear heath to give you context in why they said ive done this before. they told me gulliman burned the whole garden of nurgle down in a black library book. i didnt believe them, and ended up reading the chapter of that book to confirm what they said and it turns out they lied or misread the book and the garden didnt all burn down in its entirety

[clear heath]

Maybe they just made it as a joke

[acoustic spade]

panic

same as revolver special

[clear heath]

but

you can switch to your melee and block instantly

[exotic kindle]

Yeah its pointless

[clear heath]

faster than the staff would hit

[exotic kindle]

It should be a force push

[warm meteor]

staff melee is for styling on enemies

[acoustic spade]

I have found the block to really be not instant

[exotic kindle]

Still faster than staff melee

[acoustic spade]

I have the actual animation up and still get hit

[warm meteor]

imagine being a mauler and having to explain to your dead friend what killed you

[hard breach]

A stick

[warm meteor]

its even funnier that the primary blast on most staff weapons is near instant at melee range, staggers more and does wayyyyy more damage

but bonk is bonk i guess

[uncut hamlet]

I'd prefer my psyker tape a flashlight to his staff and use that as the special at this point

[acoustic spade]

the primary blast just goes underneath their armpit or something at times

[warm meteor]

im convinced the reason its there is to stop people saying "i have a large stick why cant i swing it"

[acoustic spade]

even when pointing at center of mass

[acoustic spade]

tbh it is also very satisfying to decapitate a hound with a staff thrust

[regal raft]

Ask and you will receive.

[visual adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/za8tzp/via_the_discord_faq_originally_it_was_announced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[regal raft]

Imagine not building entirely around staff bonks

[warm meteor]

ive never had trouble hitting close enemies yet, my way of dealing with hounds is direct hits with my secondary shot on void strike and thats about as hard to get direct hits with as the primary

[regal raft]

If you don’t use staff for bonking exclusively, you’re doing it wrong

[acoustic spade]

I've had kinetic failure proc with it

[warm meteor]

finally smth we agree on

the bonk build will always be the secret op

[static epoch]

ooooh i finally got one worthy of upgrading but going to wait for crafting i think

[warm meteor]

vet cant bonk with a staff, only we have that power

[regal raft]

That’s hilarious, the only unique kinetic proc I have ever had was brain burst proccing it for an immediate second brainburst, I can’t get it to happen again

[regal raft]

Holy shit, I wonder if the 5 or 15% dmg boost talent works on the staff bonk

I have to test this

[bold maple]

wish I could trade my 380 void staff for a 380 purge staff

[warm meteor]

its not a warp attack.... no way it does lol

but if it did that could be cool

[clear heath]

🤔

[warm meteor]

omg

guess what happened

[uncut hamlet]

thates happened with me too

instant 2 stacks

[warm meteor]

someone blocked me for all that

[hard breach]

You died to a boss?

[quartz geyser]

I thought 80% in everything meant 400?

[uncut hamlet]

If I could get a 380 purge staff I might kiss my beloved

[warm meteor]

Soraka will never know that nurgles garden didnt burn in its entirety

[clear heath]

same lol

[uncut hamlet]

huh for all waht

[warm meteor]

i will forever be heartbroken

cursed to remember the time i had friends in this server

i might just leave tbh

[hard breach]

Oh woe is you 🥹

[warm meteor]

stressful

[bold maple]

help me with the monster feat and ill be ur friend

[regal raft]

I got lucky with all of mine, so I can’t imagine how hard the grind must be.

Tragically I am super unlucky with everything other then the 40k universe, to a point it’s a meme in all of my tabletop campaigns

[warm meteor]

doesnt monster feat require like heresy difficulty

[bold maple]

ye

[warm meteor]

i havent even attempted diff 4 yet lol

im scared

as ive said time and time again, im not very great at this game

[hard breach]

Don't be scared of heresy

Purge it

[bold maple]

its not that bad

[warm meteor]

i can do diff 3 alright

[uncut hamlet]

Heresy aint that bad yea

[bold maple]

shoot me a friend inv and we can run through a few

[uncut hamlet]

once you get used to it malice feels like a cakewalk

[warm meteor]

it is almost 5 in the am currently

[regal raft]

The only fear in heresy difficulty is your Allie’s.

[uncut hamlet]

can i come too i want the monster penance too

[warm meteor]

idk how friend requests even work

[icy gulch]

Literally

[dawn sphinx]

Hahaa surge staff go brrrrrr!

[warm meteor]

do i tell you my steam name?

[hard breach]

I would come but I am at work

[regal raft]

Oh boy I sure do love getting level 14s in my heresy run, haha wooo wow

[uncut hamlet]

no, real one, preferably with your SIN number and a couple tax forms for reference

[quartz geyser]

finally managed to solo the boss

[fair garnet]

Still need to try 3 myself... and almost 4 characters at 20

[uncut hamlet]

Nice!

[mental zinc]

Yes but u cant roll higher than 380

[warm meteor]

darn, i dont have a tax form will my birth cert work?

[icy gulch]

Even the level 30s I get just die instantly at the first sight of elites

[regal raft]

Congrats!

[warm meteor]

i dotn have a single level 20 yet

[uncut hamlet]

yea that should be fine just email it to me and we can play tgt

[quartz geyser]

ahhh fair enough, ty

[regal raft]

Let me guess, they run forward and face check an entire wave and their elites, and the 4 reapers and 8 gunners behind the wave?

[quartz geyser]

ty

[bold maple]

friends n chat, when you go to add you need a friend code

[icy gulch]

Pretty much, then they fold in 5 seconds

[hard breach]

Don't you also need bank details my dude? Need to be thorough

[warm meteor]

so we both have to be in the game?

[icy gulch]

So I usually don't bother with Heresy unless I got friends with me

[uncut hamlet]

Right, can't forget that mb. Actually can you mail me the deeds to your house too if you can get them?

[regal raft]

Happens every time, I’m so far past my wits end that I just look forward to seeing them go down and immediately dc

[uncut hamlet]

nah you can do it through the steam app

[warm meteor]

my name is DaemonEngine

[hard breach]

Heresy!

[uncut hamlet]

Not that hard to cc and rush a gun emplacement or just pick them off if youre initiating though. Sucks youre getting teammates like that

[warm meteor]

i own 3k of daemon engines

[mellow crescent]

Is the game harder than Verm 2 or is it just because the playerbase doesn't know what it's doing yet?
Cata for example is pretty easy even with randos.

[uncut hamlet]

I think the game is harder

especially with the toughness bug rn lmao

[warm meteor]

my army is a "almost dark mech" army

[hard breach]

Did an all psyker party with 2 surge and 2 void. So much cc

[regal raft]

Don’t worry about it, it pushed me to a point that I had to exclusively build around the idea of soloing as if I’m alone, and I exclusively only bring that build now because of it.

[uncut hamlet]

but im not exactly a vet at vermintide, only did legend before darktide came out so I could be wrong

[icy gulch]

I think a mix of both. People aren't as used to it yet compared to vermintide and the game feels harder. It's a lot harder to clutch as well compared to Vermintide

[fair garnet]

Not that much, but close myself

[warm meteor]

i like my LOS

[fair garnet]

But between 2 armies... Death Guard and Word Bearers

[bold maple]

@uncut hamlet also ye add me and @warm meteor we can find another and get the monster run going

[warm meteor]

i have word bearers

but they might get painted as biles creations

[regal raft]

What ence said, and the gap in difficulty between malice and heresy is large on a technical level, even if skill wise it doesn’t require much more

[warm meteor]

they both love melee lists so the transition is seamless

[mellow crescent]

Have you shared your build here yet/do you plan to do so?

[fair garnet]

Have them in the old colors red with black shoulders

[regal raft]

Oh yeah totally. With. Few other people, don’t expect anything interesting though, it’s the same one other psykers use

[regal raft]

Here one sec, still have it in photo

[crisp saddle]

Who else enjoys seeing the heads of Hartics go pop

[icy gulch]

Plus ranged enemies in this game make it a bit trickier and you have to take it slow sometimes in this game. Was never really like that in Vermintide.

[regal raft]

Any highlighted ones are optional, also for the first talent go with 3 at the bottom and not 2

3s still jsut better atm

[uncut hamlet]

I take the first one

[regal raft]

Your intent is to use surge or purge

[uncut hamlet]

gives me a lotta sustain

[crisp saddle]

Is the best way to play to hang back and pop heads?

[uncut hamlet]

nah

staff cc is way better

[fair garnet]

Btw void staff still good later on? Or are we pushed into lightning? ... i like my Kamehameha staff

[uncut hamlet]

bb is very situational in higher difficulties

[crisp saddle]

I don’t have a staff yet

[uncut hamlet]

it is yea

[icy gulch]

Not really. Using staffs is the best way to play. Force sword melee with deflector is pretty good too

[uncut hamlet]

all the staffs are viable to a degree, even trauma

[fair garnet]

[icy gulch]

Void works fine

[uncut hamlet]

purge and surge for cc, void for the puredps

[regal raft]

Repeatedly stack as many of your charges as possible and spam your job skill and then fire surge or purge inbetween, clears entire room.

You might have a harder time though, because tier 3 purges dont clear entire rooms on heresy immediately like my lucky BIS does

The rest is camping cover and knowing positioning.

[crisp saddle]

Does the shop inventory change?

[uncut hamlet]

trauma is meh but useable

[uncut hamlet]

every hour

[crisp saddle]

I kinda like that

[fair garnet]

Good to know, i like the class and some staffs... just don't want to get pushed into a build just to be competitive, i play for fun

[acoustic spade]

ugh having to kill Google Chrome every time I want to play Darktide means I cant have anything open on the second monitor for elevators :<

[icy gulch]

Purgatus staff feels very meh to me imo. Seemed like more of a hindrance to my team for mediocre horde clearing. Voidstrike clears hordes almost as fast and while keeping the capability of hitting people at range.

[uncut hamlet]

lower difficulties are always an option. the higher ones are just for fun, its a coop game after all

[uncut hamlet]

do whatever you ejoy the most

[regal raft]

There you go, sorry about the jumbled descriptions in multiple posts, shoulda just added them with the first post with the build, but yeah. It’s nothing special, it’s the same room wiping build everyone is mostly using on heresy plus with a surge or purge, nothing special or cool like the infinite toughness builds

[mellow crescent]

thank you!

[regal raft]

No problem! Happy genociding!

[uncut hamlet]

purging*

[acoustic spade]

infinite toughness builds?

[uncut hamlet]

we're doing the heretics a favor

[acoustic spade]

tell me more

[uncut hamlet]

they just dont know it yet

[regal raft]

Infinite in name alone, give me a second to set it as my talents and then post it

It’s really cool, good for void and trauma or just e melee build

Forces an interesting play style

There is also a brainburst build by Milkandcookie, but like every build he publishes, it’s after a point where it’s nolonger viable or he only tested on difficulty 2 or 3, which I doubt.

[sly marsh]

soraka lemme peep that bis staff real quick

[regal raft]

Sure gimme a second!

[compact cargo]

He plays on 2-3 so it's fitting

[regal raft]

This is all going to take me a little bit

Shouldn’t be long

[potent echo]

His old vt2 videos show him being hard carried usually, idk if he improved since then

[regal raft]

Literally not shocked at all

[regal raft]

This explains absolutely everything

[potent echo]

Playing the castle map and in the finale he was just holding block on cata lmao

[regal raft]

What a bitch

[sly marsh]

ive been runnin round with this but idk what perks/blessings are ideal

[fading trout]

Hello frens, does anyone have any tips for "Malleus Monstronum" thanks 🙂

[cyan echo]

pair up with a shield ogryn, let him trigger daemonhost, profit

[acoustic spade]

Step 1: Have Friends

[regal raft]

OK

First up here’s the infinite toughness build, as people call it, but it’s not infinite it’s just infinitely generating it

[sly marsh]

if you mention it people might be cool with helping you out, i helped out a few randos in pugs get their done

[jolly spear]

Is there a way to stun the daemonhost when she's eating you that I am missing? Even my Ogryn ally's charge doesn't seem to do it.

[uncut hamlet]

Purge staff cant crit

unfortunately

[potent echo]

I went back to watch it idk if it's worse but he was using greatsword on WHC

[fading trout]

Nice I'll ask again later

[fading trout]

thx 🙂

[fading trout]

:/

[cyan echo]

he can just deploy the shield

Just go into LFG and you might find em :Bth

[sly marsh]

this is incredibly disappointing now im sad

[potent echo]

I'm 30% sure it's a bug because flamestorm staff could crit in vt2

[cyan echo]

Wasnt this fixed in release?

[uncut hamlet]

absolutely could be

i wouldnt be surprised

[uncut hamlet]

Was it?

I mightve missed it

[magic hull]

should i?

[craggy bluff]

hmm blue but under 400 though

[cyan echo]

i recall seeing people say it was critting in Meat GRinder

[cyan echo]

Good damage and blast radius, i would say yes

[sly marsh]

idk i have 0 knowledge of blessings or perks i just been spam crafting staffs and trying random stuff out

[cyan echo]

Warp Nexus isnt the best of blessings, but i think we'll be able to change those later?

[sly marsh]

yep but for now im just stuck with whatever rng throws on there

[uncut hamlet]

This is so sad

vet or psyker shop, who knows

[potent echo]

afaik the max stats a weapon can roll so far is 380

[lethal maple]

I got lucky with a bullet blocking force sword

it's so good when reviving people

[sly marsh]

imma go check and see if purg can crit

crits are yellow numbers right? pls dont make fun of me

[regal raft]

Highlighted talents in purple are optional.

This is for if you intend to do melee, if you want it on void staff take warp resistance instead. Level 15 and 20 are literally jsut whatever you prefer and how safe you want to play.

If you do melee play it like you’re a monkey who just snorted 5 lines of cocaine, run around with a force sword or some melee weapon with some kind of big burst, but force sword is better because you can generate peril with your special in order to spend it for toughness, and dodge and slide between cover only to pop out kill an entire wave or a few elites, and use your ability when you want to knock a bunch of dangerous elites down to engage or run away from, or to exclude one that can’t be CC’d long enough to just kill it and run away,

This is to make your abilities cooldown as short as possible, since you can generate peril with your actions staffs bb or preferably spamming your force sword special to then spend and give yourself toughness refunded with your first level 5 talent.

Keep in mind you don’t have to actually attack an enemy with force sword to generate peril, you can jsut spam it to generate 40 to 60% peril depending on encounter and have it ready to refund you toughness.

[sly marsh]

oh snap hold up i gotta read dat

[topaz path]

Guys, have a question. Is there a hooded clothes version without mask? For Psyker of course

[regal raft]

I can’t log in atm so I’m working with old pictures, but it won’t matter so I’ll just give a detailed explanation instead with my first purgatus staff. One second as I type it up .

[sly marsh]

no worries i was just trying to get a better understanding of what to look for on them, i also do appreciate that post above. never took the toughness regen on quelling before but seems to be pretty useful especially in 4-5

[lean python]

The T4 Slaughterer on this feels really good, ill try that meleee build out with it

[sly marsh]

yo purg staff does crit, tested it in the meat grinder rn

[uncut hamlet]

thats great!

[midnight kiln]

Is pick n mix penance broken? It's always stuck at 0/5 and i'm pretty sure i just got it

[frank tartan]

It's worth it whilst you're still levelling up.

[uncut hamlet]

are you doing it on the right difficulty?

[sly marsh]

i think thats on heresy+

[midnight kiln]

Yeah, i'm on 5 right now

[uncut hamlet]

weird

[midnight kiln]

I even tried at difficulty 4

[sly marsh]

did they change it or something? its just BB 5 elites in 10 seconds right?

[uncut hamlet]

12

[icy harbor]

No it's higher lol

[uncut hamlet]

they made it slightly easier

[midnight kiln]

I even calculated my thing, i'm supposed to have it

But it's always stuck at 0/5

[frank tartan]

Max base rating is 400

[sly marsh]

maybe in making it easier they bricked the code for it or something, i know the ogryn penance for traveling 75 yards was bugged

[midnight kiln]

I know some people got it since the update

[hexed wadi]

I would put the lvl 5 talent that gives toughness on kill as an optional, specially since it works wonders with surge and voidstrike staff

[midnight kiln]

Is this a me problem perhaps?

[ornate hamlet]

ok psyker is now ok-ish for me, this feat is singlehandedly giving me the damage I need to deal with hordes

so good

[icy harbor]

Only useful if your trash team doesn't scatter

But yeah, nice perk

[hexed wadi]

Psychic communion is bae

[sly marsh]

have you only tried it on 5? maybe even though it should work on 5 it only works in 4 or something, i have no idea lol

[ornate hamlet]

they don't (asia server built diff)

[midnight kiln]

I tried at 4 too

[ornate hamlet]

everyone sticks together like glue

although if someone does something stupid I will just speak up

[icy harbor]

Great. I usually have some vet player who thinks he is the greatest player eu west and dies alone somewhere

[ornate hamlet]

normally I wouldn't use my mic but recent games have been forcing me to do so

[south spruce]

Pick n' Mix always stays at 0/5 , is it bugged, am i the only one with this issue?

[sly marsh]

okay so theres two of you now that have a bugged pick n mix

maybe the recent hotfix bugged out the penance or something im not sure

[lament glen]

It's also the only way to do warp battery without having a stroke haha

[midnight kiln]

Nope, i just successfully did it and game fucked me

[ornate hamlet]

warp battery is made hella easy with that perk

[sly marsh]

im sorry sibling

[ornate hamlet]

u don't really have to BB as much but it's more of a "backup"

[south spruce]

Not bugged or i'm not the only one with penance not working?

[ornate hamlet]

now I am just gonna level up my psyker further

[midnight kiln]

Mine is bugged as well

Dont force yourself to do it, it wont reward you the penance

[sly marsh]

cosmo's is stuck at 0/5 as well

[south spruce]

Damn that sucks, it's the only penance i didn't complete

[midnight kiln]

Same, i just did it but got nothing, i'm pissed off

[zinc phoenix]

That’s why you have an ogryn buddy with the coherency feats. You can’t escape my map wide coherency range you scrubs 😂

[hexed wadi]

I use warp absorption, inner tranquility, psychich communion, kinetic shield, warp battery and quicken with surge staff

[icy harbor]

I honestly love that perk for ogryns. Since every class has some buff for coherency, that perk buffs the entire team

[zinc phoenix]

I take it and the double toughness from coherency feat on them and team performance dramatically improves because coherency feats on other people + they have way more toughness

[hexed wadi]

Ogryns are the best players around, ngl

[zinc phoenix]

It’s the hard carry class ngl

[hexed wadi]

Beefy boys let me hide behind them cheeks while I zap everything

[regal raft]

So I’ll make this one more comprehensive instead of a wall of text if I can.

Purgatus has jack all for dmg, so your dmg comes from your average item level, the collective level of all your gear if my testing were right, either way if that’s not a factor then this part is what is most important.

If you hover over you purgatus damage the secondary fire oyu charge up can only do like, 9 to 11 damage per tick, so having 50% damage modifier minimal is really all that matter, any amount over won’t add more damage enough to actually do anything. That means you want warp resistance so you can spam it more and longer, and cloud radius because cloud radius extends its distance and width, quell speed is pretty good but tbh it all feels the same speed after 50% modifier, it’s jsut really really quick.

Weapon perks you want are a mixture of 8-10% elite and either Unarmored if you want to kill shit tier mobs faster, or flak/carapace. I recommend flak or carapace, but these weapon perks are where all your damage is actually going to come from, not your modifiers.

Blessing you want is actually going to be coherent mixture, warp nexus and blazing spirit is only really great if you have a crit modifier, so unless the staff is like mine 484 where it’s 8% ranged damage elite, 4% crit, warp nexus, and blazing spirit blessings, then it’s jsut trash.

My personnel recommendation for purgatus blessings are any mixture of Warp Flurry, Terrifying Barrage, and one other one I can’t remember of the top of my head but will edit if I remember it to say (here)

Utility matters way more on purgatus, like actually tick more damage, it’s worthless in most cassss since you can jsut charge again and delete wave at this tier of item level.

Try to get a modifier rating score of 335 to start and for 350 or higher after.

Try to craft up a 380 white tier purgatus up to item level, and don’t be upset if it’s not perfect, once crafting is fully implemented you can jsut stack blessings and modifier

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve gotten so frustrated with pug psykers randomly dying because they hate using melee and want to shoot blue balls that I just sit on them to keep them alive 😂

[regal raft]

Oh look anothercwall of text, shocker amiright?

[regal raft]

Tell them to position correctly, and if they can’t to swap to surge or void until they figure it out

Or jsut say “skill issue” at them

[zinc phoenix]

Telling randos something just ends in reeeeing

[regal raft]

Good, that’s what you want, it’s them punishing themselves for not listening to you

[potent echo]

Theoretical it's 400 (80x5)

[zinc phoenix]

Physically preventing them from dying gets me what I actually want tho, which is crafting mats 😂

[regal raft]

Oh see complete opposite for me

Replacing them with a bot

[sly marsh]

thank you sibling

[regal raft]

As soon as possible

Is super preferable

[sly marsh]

appreciate the effort of the post btw, tryina figure out how to make a better staff, what stats, etc

[regal raft]

No problem! Once they buff soulblaze or make it count toward other psyker perks it will then be more useful just as a utility stat stick, but until then avoid crit as crit on it inherently does less dmg then direct modifiers

[zinc phoenix]

The “all psykers are siblings” thing is really weird and has to be some sort of imperial attempt to transfer the taboo against close family relations to psyker relations

[sly marsh]

alright thanks g

[potent echo]

Does %vs carapace increase soulblaze damage?

[zinc phoenix]

Really feels like it shouldn’t since it’s a DOT not a whack

And it’s weird warp stuff which typically avoids armor

[regal raft]

Hard to say, from what I’ve seen it looks like flat amounts unaffected by, or doesn’t effect other stats or traits

I can’t say for certain since the increments are so small

[sly marsh]

i do REALLY hope they dont nerf the 10% soulblaze feat though, if you have to actually end up killing with the soulblaze dot in a potential future nerf im gonna cry. thing is printing charges rn

[zinc phoenix]

Like the force sword ghost slap just straight ignores armor

[regal raft]

I would prefer they jsut make other good talents tbh

[sly marsh]

yep 100% agree

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker traits are a mix of good and “why is this garbage even a trait”

[vocal agate]

Does it for sure? Why does it still does more dmg to maulers on bodyshots though?

[icy harbor]

Soulblaze with 6 stacks

[hexed wadi]

Yeah, psyker talents are a bit all over the place.

[icy harbor]

Which talent are you thinking about?

[cyan echo]

ghostslap XD

[sly marsh]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2892198053
this is also neat, theres a community page where you can see all blessings/perks and such

[potent echo]

Terrifying barrage kind of weird they make enemies crouch under your fire

[sly marsh]

ah snap sorry i didn't know that would embed a giant immage

[potent echo]

Also someone said that purgatus doesn't crit, is that true?

[zinc phoenix]

“Here’s a couple soul blaze for your three seconds of BBing, keep the change you filthy animal”

[sly marsh]

it does crit! i tested it out a few minutes ago

[regal raft]

It doesn’t ignore armor as there’s a stat that exist as resistance to its damage, it’s jsut significantly less resistance then the armor stat is for guns, so it does more damage by comparison.

Also only hit ogryns in the head, I’ve read somewhere that they have independent modifiers and resistances for the head and body, so the head might have less health or something

[hexed wadi]

Wrack and ruin or kinetic overload?

[regal raft]

It used to not crit with warp nexus, warp nexus was broken, they fixed it before launch

[vocal agate]

Ogryn rambo reaper has a flak armor chest and receives more damage on the bodyhit - I think.

[sly marsh]

i gotta take off but gl everyone, and thanks for the info soraka!

[zinc phoenix]

The post launch fixes have completely messed with what I think is good/bad 😂

[cyan echo]

vs Flak Armor has to be the one of the best perks

[regal raft]

Literally same, it’s why I’m just testing everything extensively, I think the meat grinder is still broken or inconsistent too

[regal raft]

That makes so much more sense

[ruby merlin]

Tbh psyker can be super rambo with peril block

[regal raft]

Yeah

[zinc phoenix]

It generally lines up with what I see in game but I wouldn’t be shocked if some stuff didn’t fully match numbers wise

[ruby merlin]

I love that build with the antax combat axe, anyone get the force sword working in damnation though?

[regal raft]

My theory is because it doesn’t have the Ally boom modifiers from coherency buffs

[icy harbor]

Peril block, plus my sword that can also block ranged attacks

[ruby merlin]

Yeah exactly

[zinc phoenix]

Not a bad shout

[ruby merlin]

@icy harbor I dislike the attack animations of the force sword sadly, how does it perform on damnation?

The antax axe with brutal momentum really allows you to clutch when you need to for me.

Just really safe in hordes with peril block

[zinc phoenix]

I want a force axe so bad

[icy harbor]

But I tried to make a melee focussed build. It's just not as strong as other classes lol

[zinc phoenix]

Mix the mobility of axe with the ability to ghost smack

[ruby merlin]

Oh imagine the antax axe could roll deflection, that would be god tier lol

@icy harbor IMO we are tankier than other classes, which is worth more.

Power sword kills faster

[icy harbor]

I enjoy it, although, yeah funny axe better

[vocal agate]

I would like it to have a shorter special attack animation. Hard to find a window to use it without danger

[ruby merlin]

But axe lets you clutch more

[icy harbor]

With 100 toughness?

Veteran coming in with 200

[ruby merlin]

@icy harbor with peril block I basically never lose toughness with the antax axe. The push attack works so well.

[zinc phoenix]

Veteran crying because toughness bug 😂

[icy harbor]

[ruby merlin]

Toughness basically doesn't matter if I can never lose stamina for blocks, and can cleave infinitely with my axe.

[regal raft]

Funniest shit ever

[icy harbor]

Yeah ig I will try to focus on my melee build again. Although my left mouse button finger gets so tired

[acoustic spade]

how about just using all your stamina on infinite force sword pushes

[ruby merlin]

@vocal agate For me the force sword special is 100% useless on damnation because of how slow it is.

[vocal agate]

Exacly

[icy harbor]

It's only useful to stagger a big enemy when not to many others around

[ruby merlin]

@acoustic spade XD yeah, that's another reason why I don't like the force sword, I have no push attack, it does a push shove instead.

[regal raft]

Based take

[ruby merlin]

The push attack on the antax combat axe is just so good

[wide quest]

I just tried it out earlier and yeah, it feels amazing

[regal raft]

Oh hey Clean!

[acoustic spade]

which Mark?

[ruby merlin]

@wide quest Yep! You can 100% clutch out those 1 vs everyone moments with it, especially with peril block

@acoustic spade Mk V Antax Combat axe

[icy harbor]

It just feels wrong to play an axe, when the force sword exists

[ruby merlin]

Try to get one with brutal momentum on it for infinite cleave

[wide quest]

Howdy doo

[ruby merlin]

It attacks horizontally

so basically with infinite cleave, one swipe kills like 7 targets.

[twin comet]

welp 100% every psyker penance

time to grind out some 380 power whites

[ruby merlin]

Anyone like me reroll for a new voice btw? XD

[regal raft]

Imagine not using combat knife, you’re all cringe, can’t even dodge a billion times at no stamina cost or run in every room at every second of the time from being so fast

[icy harbor]

I hate the psyker penances so I will ignore them

[ruby merlin]

I had the female savant, but the female loner has better lines IMO.

[regal raft]

Naw I’m happy with my French maid voice

[twin comet]

psyker gests the best looking glam for his penances tho

[icy harbor]

Ye

[ruby merlin]

@regal raft The "I AM A GOD" lines are hilarious from the loner though.

[twin comet]

now I got my psyker goggles

[regal raft]

I still hate them all, too over the top for me.

[ruby merlin]

So much heresy, pisses of all the zealots.

[regal raft]

Super true!

[icy harbor]

Buzziiiiiinngggg

[twin comet]

they were nerfed to be easier at least

[zinc phoenix]

I regret picking it because it’s so popular. Same with male dreamer, you never hear anything else

[wide quest]

I used to run bleed knife, but after getting an mk v dueling sword I just can't drop it because of the bonkers dmg that it deals

[twin comet]

im a madman who got them in beta

[ruby merlin]

@icy harbor yeah I ditched my level 30 psyker with pretty BiS gear just to get a new voice lol.

[clear heath]

loner is the best voice

[regal raft]

I get lucky because I don’t really get psykers on my team, it’s always zealots ogryns and sharpshooters

[icy harbor]

Idk which voice line I have but my dude sounds like he has some African accent

[wide quest]

I want to get the french female voice so bad ;-;

[twin comet]

If you didnt choose my beloved, how can you even play psyker

[regal raft]

The last time I got a psyker was a male dreamer psyker who talked about the catgirl lines

[ruby merlin]

Beloved gets annoying over time for me, sorry D:

[clear heath]

I miss my loner psyker whenever i play other characters

[ruby merlin]

@wide quest My idea voice would be the french voice, but with the loner lines.

[limpid hill]

i just went for the funny sounding voice because its amusing

[clear heath]

His dialogue is just too good

[twin comet]

good I love people getting annoyed in chat in matches about the my beloved lines

[ruby merlin]

Yeah dialogue >>> gameplay for sure haha

[icy harbor]

Fashion> everything

[magic hull]

stats are pretty good, i can level this thing

[regal raft]

This

[ruby merlin]

Eh, for me voicelines > fashion > gameplay 😛

[twin comet]

can you get +1 wounds as minor perks on curios?

[hexed wadi]

Nope

[ornate hamlet]

i have only been playing psyker so far, noted that your home planet even effects some of the lines, along with the rest of your background

[hexed wadi]

Only main stat @twin comet

[twin comet]

damn just gonna stack +20% health then

[orchid dirge]

current cosmetics are kinda meh tho

[ruby merlin]

@ornate hamlet damn, I wish we could change background + voice post creation just to test all that out.

[regal raft]

Yeah they did really good for the most part with the voice lines

[zinc phoenix]

Yep and if you make bad choices you get very limited and repetitive dialogue

[limpid hill]

i think the planet only affects some voicelines if you visit a similar one

[icy harbor]

I will just stack grimoir resistance on my curiositys

[limpid hill]

like the mining planet and the mining planet quest

[hexed wadi]

@twin comet https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor has all weapons, curios with perks and blessing

[ornate hamlet]

oh god either my internet is dying or the servers are

[ruby merlin]

My loner psyker is a hive urchin, and seems to hate authority a lot lol.

[twin comet]

I chose holy chapel planet and psychic awakening

[ornate hamlet]

jumping all over the ship

[ruby merlin]

And keeps talking about the carrion emperor lol, mega heresy.

[regal raft]

Yoink

[wide quest]

Fashion is the true endgame

[twin comet]

thanks

[wide quest]

Space toilet ftw

[ornate hamlet]

my psyker has just been talking about doing his duty, old militia training, and farming

[ruby merlin]

Btw anyone want to do the 90% brain burst penance?

We just need daemonhosts

[regal raft]

The helmet of a god

[hexed wadi]

Psykers at this point be like

[regal raft]

Who else is fated to kill Nurgle then the man who flushed the filth?!

[hexed wadi]

Let me solo her.

[icy harbor]

I wonder if you can make a viable build by stacking crit chance

[regal raft]

Definitely

[hexed wadi]

You certainly can

[wide quest]

I'm just gonna leave it here again for all to witness the brilliance of the emperor's will.

[regal raft]

His sceptre of plunging is impeccable

[twin comet]

I hate the cash shop but had to spend those aquilas I got on the special edition

[hexed wadi]

Specially since surge and purgatus can crit

[vocal agate]

/kneel "My lord!"

[ornate hamlet]

kasmuller looks like he's got a 9 to 5 before going out to kill heretics at 8

[wide quest]

Gotta multitask

[celest oar]

that ought to turn a few heads

[wide quest]

The more time we waste, the more heretics are left undealt with

[wide dome]

does the penance 'going out wit ha bang' actually work on malice or does it have to be on heresy like warp battery?

[wide quest]

It works on malice

[steady sand]

but well.. on malice you do less dmg with explosion

[wide dome]

but the elites have less hp too, is it better to do on heresy?

[celest oar]

but they have lesser hp

[twin comet]

I swear fatshark stealth nerfed blessings, Not got a single one above strength 3 since release

it feels kinda scummy

[summer prairie]

the shop was nerfed slightly before the beta ended

[icy harbor]

I am still wondering why the psyker seems lackluster compared to other classes

[regal raft]

It’s in preparation for us being able to use crafting to easily mass produce them by jsut leveling greens and whites to blue, more then likely.

We won’t ever know unless they tell us though.

[orchid dirge]

why tho, it was already shit

[twin comet]

and then they make its a fuck load harder to do so by reducing mats on failed runs and not implementing crafting properly

[summer prairie]

it does make sense to nerf it though, tier 1-2 talents not appearing at all almost made the whole talent tier system pointless

especially since you were supposed to upgrade them later by crafting

[twin comet]

yea but not a single rare blessing is awful

[worn canopy]

has anyone found out the use for the dueling sword special attack yet

[wide quest]

Brain burst got nerfed compared to CBT, some feats are good while some still question it's own existence

[regal raft]

Because the other classes have clear themes they’re built around and are exceptionally good at that theme and target role, meanwhile psyker is a bit all over the place and a lot of it eis either mediocre or good, and that’s completely sidelined by how good the others are.

Hell even ogryns got buffed and now are better then us.

[thick surge]

It gives you an extra keybind to spend on something else

[icy harbor]

Needing several BB for a single elite dude is just peak annoying

[celest oar]

BB should insta gib any human sized enemy on any diff

[wide quest]

Psyker has the tools for almost every job, but can't really excel at anything

[icy harbor]

BB already takes ages to cast and leaves me vulnerable while casting

[steady sand]

in curent state should be instant cast, maybe with more peril to quell

[languid cradle]

Spark 'eads, what exactly is classified as an elite.

[summer prairie]

BB needs a slight damage buff on t4/t5 and slightly faster cast time but it's decent utility in specific situations.

[regal raft]

Elites

[languid cradle]

You're the reason no one likes psykers.

[icy harbor]

That's not true

[languid cradle]

[regal raft]

I’m inciting racism

[thick surge]

Ogryn enemies, maulers, gunners, shotgunners and maniacs

[languid cradle]

Big thank, sparky

[celest oar]

Any enemy that is already on the map and dosent instance spawn

[mellow crescent]

Gunners are elites?
I thought they were specials.

[celest oar]

Specials are enemies like bobmers, mutants, doggies, flamers, snipers and our favourite trappers

they spawn and come as the misson progressesd

[icy harbor]

And I reckon, even an ogryn should die if his brain explodes. But who am I to speak

[celest oar]

You can go pyskaraum to check, specials are all grouped in one corner, every thing else are elites

[languid cradle]

You're the reason people like psykers. Real smarty, that one.

Extra rations

[brave drift]

Ooooooh

[mellow crescent]

blessed deflector

[brave drift]

that block efficiency too

[icy harbor]

414 blue is nice. And with block efficiency on deflector???

Dang

[steady sand]

hm..what curios?

[iron sundial]

Second game as psyker lol

[steady sand]

still old description on steam?

[iron sundial]

Would seem so if thats the case

[celest oar]

has anyone gotten blazing spirit on a lightning staff

i am wondering if it even exists on one

[south spruce]

Fill out a lottery ticket for me bro

[ruby merlin]

bb is still decent in damnation for snipers and bombers

since they run away a lot

but mostly use melee or the staff for clutch moments.

and ulti into bb spam for ogryns is decent dps

[celest oar]

My pysker is always poor

buying every other staff and force sword i see

[ruby merlin]

I haven't found a way to make the force sword super reliable on damnation

anyone got gameplay of you doing well with it there?

[vivid merlin]

is this one worth a buy?

low finesse is the only thing making me hesitate

[regal raft]

Not 420, and it’s riposte, so no

[south spruce]

Who needs melee weapon on damnation when you can just stunlock enemies using surge and let veterans delete everything with overpower swords

[orchid dirge]

lmao

[regal raft]

I just watch a guy rip up some money and someone comment, “he’s fighting inflation, what a hero”

[elder saddle]

WTB BB scaling

[ruby merlin]

@south spruce you can carry pugs pretty easily on damnation with a psyker assuming you know what to do.

[robust parcel]

how do you get this fucking penance

[ruby merlin]

90% bb?

[robust parcel]

fucking going out with a boom

[ruby merlin]

oh that

just overload with the staff in the middle of elites, when in a group with friends

[celest oar]

Get an ogryn to tank

then just overload when theres 3 ragers, remember to hit them a few times

[robust parcel]

suffering

[faint sigil]

im also a member of fuck going out with a bang gang

[errant dock]

am I missing something or is the Surge staff bad? stuns 10% of the horde and half the time doesn't even kill any of them.

[faint sigil]

its not for horde clear

its the taser for all the specials

[summer prairie]

It's for stunning gunlines and mass elites/specials

[celest oar]

Its meant to stun and let your team handle it. You personally dont do much

[summer prairie]

It does do decent damage against some elites and specials

[celest oar]

Though, I am wondering if anyone has blazing spirit on the surge staff. Its the only staff with a critical boost and seems to be meant for that perk

[errant dock]

guess it's not for me then, I want to kill the things not tase them. there aren't any green circles anymore but they're there in my heart.

[celest oar]

It looks like it hits many times in the pyskarium as well, can probably get an insane number of small critical hits and max stack soulburn in one hit

[orchid dirge]

so far i havent seen blazing spirit on it, on a build editor the blessing doesnt even show up

[faint sigil]

from what ive seen only voidstrike and maybe trauma? get blazing spirit

[celest oar]

oh i just checked after reading this. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/force-staff-surge used to have it, but its now gone

Might have been removed after the beta...

[orchid dirge]

Damn, lets hope not bc its bis

[celest oar]

its gone for purgatus staff as well

damn

There goes my dreams of the perfect surge staff that would burn the entire horde 🥴

[hard breach]

Why remove it? Was not even op was it?

I never got one during beta so I dunno

[celest oar]

I dont think anyone even managed to obtain it

[hard breach]

Wtf, then why?

[orchid dirge]

Maybe it was op if you pop it multiple times, with the lvl 30 perk you gain a 10% chance of gaining a charge if a enemy with soulblaze dies (from any source)

[celest oar]

pretty sure it would have made pysker completely broken if it was given to us

[regal raft]

Even then it still would compare to as effective of a stat stick as purgatus, they should have also nerfed that quality for purgatus too

[vivid merlin]

shouldn't look an emperor's gift in the mouth but... 😦

[hard breach]

Yes remove all possibly synergy we can get when we are already in worse state then the others

[civic badger]

just noticed that i got serial killer (20 headshots in a row) with psyker lol

[regal raft]

It probably wasnt op, it just didn’t function correctly or caused some sort of major bug from the interaction

[celest oar]

it would have been hilarious if we got it tbh, we did be getting BB stacks like no tmr, while max soulburning all the enemies and burning entire horde with innate soul burn

[orchid dirge]

Yea i managed to refill my entire stacks with one purgatus cast, but its not like the stacks are op

[hard breach]

They are not

[regal raft]

Yeah gives me even more reason to believe it wasn’t because it was too strong

Agreed

[boreal slate]

its like people are fucking trying to be dickheads man. I ask the team if I can solo a monster for my penance, they let me do it except one guy, who just keeps on attackig the boss after the whole team tells him to stop, I basically solo it but dont get the penance and now everyone is fucked up on hp and corruption cus it was in the middle of a horde

like fuck off

[faint sigil]

does the surge staff even crit?

[summer prairie]

it has high crit chance

[regal raft]

I think it’s the only staff with built in crit

[celest oar]

its crits the most

It has built in crit boost

[summer prairie]

it's over 20% at 80%

[hard breach]

Some people don't know english or are extreme tryhards

[faint sigil]

does void not crit?

[celest oar]

then slap warp nexus with it

[summer prairie]

or +20%, maybe more due to the base

[faint sigil]

i must be misunderstanding the soulfire blessing then

[celest oar]

lol, i fired 30 shots and didnt see it crit even once

I saw it crit maybe once or twice in my entire pyskarium tryout

[faint sigil]

is that one blessing on headshot then?

that gives the 1-2 soulfire stacks

ive never seen it

[celest oar]

you mean blazing spirit?

[boreal slate]

at this point i gotta run the damn perk that lets me do 15%mroe damage to brain bursted targets just for this penance and hope peolpe will stop being assholes and let me actually complete it

[vivid merlin]

that only applies to non-warp damage

which brain burst isn't

[celest oar]

it was the dream build to have it on the surge staff alongside warp nexus and have 40% crit

[faint sigil]

yeah blazing spirit. that works on void if the staff doesn't often crit?

[celest oar]

it works if your void staff can crit... which it bascially cant

[boreal slate]

lame as fuck, maybe itll help with ogryn type enemies in heresy at least

cus theres so damn many

[idle bay]

I've got hit by sudden realisation: to make Reflect perk on Force Sword more useful (blocking 3 shots with Stamina.. yeah... right useful) i just need to take Feat that Accumulates Peril instead of draining stamina. Now i need to test how fast i ill build up Peril that way....

[celest oar]

i am almost certain that void staff crit % is less than 5%

[boreal slate]

i cant give up my peril venting not slowing me down feat, as good as peril block sounds

since blocking is borderline worthless in this game anyway

[faint sigil]

i love psyker but this shit feels like it needs a few months in the oven

[boreal slate]

true

[orchid dirge]

yup

[compact cargo]

Combined with deflector trait in force sword, u can block bullets for almost no peril gain and can revive anyone anywhere, DO NOT SLEEP ON DEFLECTOR+DEFLECTION TRAIT+FEAT

It can save runs if ur ogryn goes down

[boreal slate]

havent gotten it on any weapon

if only I could reroll perks

nudge nudge fatshark

[compact cargo]

we will be able to transfuse perks from a weapon to another

[boreal slate]

yeah

waiting on that

[hard breach]

Yes if only. Its so annoying

[compact cargo]

eventually

[celest oar]

Wonder if all the staffs count as the same family and can be transfused between each other

[faint sigil]

maybe they'll let us move blazing spirit to our surge staves copium

[celest oar]

Or is it only strictly that specific weapon

[hard breach]

No. If they did that you could transfuse blazing spirit to surge

Clearly they don't want that

[celest oar]

thats the whole point, considering blazing spirit is currently useless on staffs that dont crit

[idle bay]

Just don't spread it too much - or it will get nerfed into the oblivion 🙂

[celest oar]

who thought it did be a bright idea to give a crit skill on weapons that bascially dont crit

[compact cargo]

true, like the fact u can use a knife to force soulblaze to crit like u could with the old bleed

[faint sigil]

[compact cargo]

soulblaze been able to crit is both hilarious coz it breaks the psykanium and useless, DOT VIABLE HWEN

[celest oar]

you mean block before reviving? I have seen bullets bounce off me as i was reviving but not sure how to do it

[idle bay]

If only Soulbaze actually did damage instead of slight tickling...

[compact cargo]

game does it auto now, but ye

[compact cargo]

It does damage, at 12 stacks

gl getting anyone to have 12 stacks tho

[tacit fractal]

Wait it does? Damn. Still gonna do it

[compact cargo]

non lvl 30 feats for DoT suck and the lvl 30 one removes ur warp charges for a few stacks, far from 12

Stacks are exponential

But affected by armor

so eventually they just ramp up hard

altho bosses seem to have a hard cap on DoT

[tacit fractal]

Warp flames or bb should not be affected by armor

[faint sigil]

what, you don't protect your soul from fire with metal armor?

[compact cargo]

bb is not affected by armor

[frank tartan]

If it's like bleed, it should start doing work at 4 stacks

[compact cargo]

warp flames, bleed and fire are for some weird odd reason oh and soulblaze too

[tacit fractal]

Fire is fair

[compact cargo]

on another note the purge staff does not apply soulblaze stacks properly

[idle bay]

I have Chainsword with Bloodthirsty ( +100% crit chance on special kill) - chould it be cheesed for Soulblaze ? 🙂

[celest oar]

I seen vets melt bosses with the burn on crit laser gun

[compact cargo]

Prob

[tidal adder]

My friend started playing psyker yesterday, he Bbd a bulwark and the bulwark didnt die. He was surprised

[compact cargo]

That's the raw damage, no fire damage on las rifles sadly

[celest oar]

we just stand at the side with popcorn while the vet solo melts it in under 10 secs on damnation no less.... the monstrostum penance should have been given to vet and not pysker

[compact cargo]

vets are just built different

[orchid dirge]

worth?

[tacit fractal]

Probably because it’s a big boy, mutants too and crushers

[frank tartan]

I'd call it a cheese if it wasn't dependent on killing a special. Cause it's not reliable

[compact cargo]

Low mobility roll, prob gives u 2 dodges, otherwise statline is great

[regal raft]

Not the best but it has potential, if you get good upgrade rolls it could be good. But it’s not a 380 so beware

[tidal adder]

We played T4 together, i was bbing them in front of him

[frank tartan]

That's a really good one

[idle bay]

Not killing special .. but special attack kill.

[cinder obsidian]

what's the duration?

[ruby merlin]

@orchid dirge only if you like force swords, for me I just can't get over the attack patterns on it lol.

[tacit fractal]

Oh yeah Bulwarks and Crushers can tank in Heresy and Damnation 3 BBs when you don’t have 6 stacks of charge and a miniscule amount of damage support

[ruby merlin]

Only reason I'd run a force sword would be for deflection, but the axe is just way too good lol

[tidal adder]

Im bitching about psyker left and right (still love him) yet he was surprised that we cant bb a bulwark in one or even 2 bbs

[ruby merlin]

bb is mostly for snipers and bombers on damnation

[tidal adder]

Infinite dodges tho

[idle bay]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1047930376653389834/image.png
Not a word about duration or even if it's actually work

[compact cargo]

bb needs qol, Dot needs to be viable, only changes I'd make

That and for the love of god give us some more synergy

[ruby merlin]

@tidal adder yeah it's a good defensive option when combined with deflection, but you can clutch much harder with the axe or dueling sword IMO

[cinder obsidian]

Weird, but I wonder what other weapons are compatible with that blessing

[regal raft]

If it’s not 420 or higher when you upgrade to blue, then don’t bother. If it is, keep an eye on its blessings, if you continue to push to purple make sure it’s 445, and if you push to masterwork make sure it’s above 480 otherwise it’s meh.

[tacit fractal]

And bulwarks for easy damage when you can’t behind the bastard

[ruby merlin]

@compact cargo we actually have awesome synergy though, peril block

[frank tartan]

Ahh, my dumb brain misread that. That is pretty cool then.

[ruby merlin]

@tacit fractal that too, ultimate into bb spam is neat for enemy ogryns.

[tidal adder]

Although i did get this axe and I just might

[idle bay]

Problem is - i have not got a SINGLE crit from that chainsword after executing special attack kill. Not a single one 🙂

[compact cargo]

That's the only one outside of the scuffed DoT synergy and 6 warp charges+peril block + lvl 30 f that doesn't remove charges giving you 6% peril bb

[ruby merlin]

@tidal adder That's a pretty good perk! Best one possible would be that + brutal momentum.

Brutal momentum gives you infinite cleave

so one axe swipe hits 10 targets lol

[tidal adder]

However i got the deflection sword

[frank tartan]

Maybe the duration is 0 seconds then 😢

[ruby merlin]

@compact cargo Peril block combined with passive quell + regen toughness on quell makes you an invincible tank in hordes

[tidal adder]

Ill have to test it later

[ruby merlin]

and you can 1 vs 4 ragers in melee and win

[idle bay]

Or 4-pip perk is broken 😦

[regal raft]

Try it in the meat grinder, it might mean it lasts till your next hit, in which case you could spam your special over and over

[compact cargo]

Let's NOT talk about peril passive quel and peril block tho, would be a big nerf if fixed

[bleak tulip]

pretty good, mobility isnt make of break, I'd definitely push this as my main

[tidal adder]

What passive quell?

[tacit fractal]

I want to make a sanctioned mod that anytime you bb a head off it makes that funny eccstatic sound that one kid does after saying ”Macaroni, with the chicken strips…? UH”

[tidal adder]

Weakpoint damage?

[tacit fractal]

[ruby merlin]

@compact cargo I think it's designed that way, would be dumb if not XD

[tidal adder]

I hate it that when you charge force sword and hit someone it doesnt do some splatter sound

[ruby merlin]

It's what makes our class good in damnation IMO, one of the main reasons to take it over another class. Ultimate clutch class.

[frank tartan]

Or +100% crit chance actually just means it doubles your base crit chance

[compact cargo]

We only gian more peril than we quell if we have all 12 slots occupied by enemies, doub that's intentional

[bleak tulip]

I feel like youre putting too much value on the rating numbers when the real imporant thing is the bars that are relevant, and the only thing that isnt fixable later

[tidal adder]

Or boss

[compact cargo]

True

[ruby merlin]

It's fine IMO

you still get wrecked by ranged

and you gotta dodge etc

[compact cargo]

DEFLECTOR TRAIT, ignore range, just block them too and be 10% better at it

[ruby merlin]

but then you run the force sword

which is trash IMO

[tidal adder]

And ragers too

[compact cargo]

force sword trash?

Wot

[icy harbor]

I love my deflector sword

[ruby merlin]

Trash in damnation for me when I have to clutch

[spiral escarp]

it just doubles your standard crit chance and not sets it to 100%

[ruby merlin]

you gotta have higher dps too

[twin comet]

deflector is the main thing you need

[compact cargo]

good horde clear on combo cancel, best push in the game, best dps vs bosses for psykers.

[ruby merlin]

the axe fills the slot better IMO

[twin comet]

and it pairs with peril on block to make it stupidly strong

[compact cargo]

With axe u don't have cc

like at all

[ruby merlin]

push attack on antax with infinite cleave

[bleak tulip]

anything the axe can do force sword can do, like what

[ruby merlin]

is superior IMO

[cinder obsidian]

I'm hoping the two-handed sword we saw in the trailer is a force sword

[ruby merlin]

@bleak tulip the axe has infinite cleave

and much higher dps

[bleak tulip]

and with FS you can interrupt anything you dont kill

indefinitely

[ruby merlin]

Same with the axe

[compact cargo]

Axe only has infinite cleave with the perk, u can't clutch with axe if they have ranged

[ruby merlin]

push attack indefinitely interrupts too

[bleak tulip]

also you actually get armor ignoring burst with FS

[compact cargo]

U can with the force sword

[bleak tulip]

with axe you gotta hammer em

[ruby merlin]

I think it's good that we can disagree on this, because it means the meta isn't completely fixed.

Push attack on axe

is godlike

[regal raft]

Depends, you can’t focus on just numbers or the modifiers, it depends on the weapon. Example being damage means nothing for purgatus staff.

Also you’re assuming that’s all I care about when I’m simply giving advice on one thing they should look out for. Just because I discussed apples doesn’t suddenly mean I don’t care about oranges, I’m just giving advice on apples.

TLDR: ignore your feelings, jsut ask me what I mean if you are confused.

[bleak tulip]

sure yeah

[compact cargo]

It's also extremely buggy with some perks xd

[static osprey]

Hello spark'eds! Krag the ogryn here with a friendly request to all lil'uns to allow us ogryns to carry power cells and 'eavy tings, we move at normal speed and can sprint. Tank you!

[ruby merlin]

you can 1 vs 5 ragers with the axe easily

on damnation

(melee only)

[twin comet]

then please also learn you can throw the cells to higher ledges

[compact cargo]

can't block ranged tho, been the only class that can revive while under both assault by horde AND ranged fire is extremely useful

[twin comet]

I hate watching people slowly plod up the long route with a heavy cell

[ruby merlin]

Yeah that's the one point for the force sword, it's better for defense. But in a 1 vs all with no teammates left, the axe lets me carry.

sword is better for revives though

[compact cargo]

Cell throws are too dependant on ping, seriusly.

[summer prairie]

FS has trash passive quell and pretty low mobility

[bleak tulip]

I just think that sword happens to be pretty great, mobility is pretty irrelevant as long as FS has infinite dodges and its only missing 10% core stats so saying "dont bother" when it doesnt reach a certain number is a little dodgy, everything from perks to blessings can be changed later and they'll bite themselves if they throw that sword out imo

[compact cargo]

Passive quell is the same for everything

Same rate

[summer prairie]

it's not

[compact cargo]

Proof

[twin comet]

well fatshark also had the ingenous idea that getting hit while its in mid air will make it drop like a brick to the floor

[ruby merlin]

staff passive quell is slower

[summer prairie]

it's different for force weapons

[twin comet]

because for some reason nugle can break gravity

[ruby merlin]

try it yourself, staff passive quell sucks

[bleak tulip]

FS has infinite dodges

[compact cargo]

Base quell is the same, that's just shit rolling.

[regal raft]

And that’s your opinion, and if you feel that way, that’s your feeling. I’m not going to discuss feelings, nor am I going to invalidate or validate it.

[ruby merlin]

For me, I just don't think the sword beats the axe, not when I can just line of sight ranged

[idle bay]

So many dark secrets have been spilled at this moment 🙂

[summer prairie]

bigj: non-force weapons don't even have the stat, they have much faster passive quell

[ruby merlin]

and the axe kills an entire horde in seconds.

[compact cargo]

That's base quell lol

[idle bay]

I hope FS nerf team is not listening

[compact cargo]

Force weapons boost it, did you find one that does the OPPOSITE?

[twin comet]

force sword stunning everything around you with the first part of the force push parry puts it above other weapons too

[ruby merlin]

They'll nerf the power sword first if anything

[summer prairie]

you can see the difference in 5 seconds

[vocal agate]

melee has a faster pasive quell than staff

[compact cargo]

Depends on staff, rolls matter lads

[ruby merlin]

@compact cargo my staff passive quell is like 1% every 0.5 seconds lol

it's super slow

[summer prairie]

wield a regular melee weapon, see how fast it passively goes from 99% to 0 compared to FS

[ruby merlin]

compared to my axe anyway

[fierce hazel]

not an amazing roll, but its MY rollhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240657820612034561/1048154038635593768/image.png

[ruby merlin]

time it yourself

[summer prairie]

it's not remotely similar

[ruby merlin]

Anyone have footage of force sword in damnation btw?

[compact cargo]

I use the knife and everytime I switch to it, the quell slows to a crawl over my surge staff

[vocal agate]

and I would guess that my sabre has a better pasive quell than force sword, didnt test it though

[ruby merlin]

Would love to see how it clutches when you have to do it

below damnation doesn't matter since you can just slide around with whatever and it works 😛

[summer prairie]

I'm not sure if all staves have the same passive quell

[vocal agate]

I will check it out when I get home from work

[compact cargo]

I run knife/sabre for damnation, premade already has shield ogryn so no point in force sword and haven't rolled anything else, mobility is quite great+f and some res trinkets

Lets me reposition for good surge too

[ruby merlin]

yeah sabre is great too

But yeah I would need to see the force sword in damnation

preferably with pugs

so you gotta hard carry lol

4 mans don't count because comms carry too hard

[bleak tulip]

all i know is that the diff between my void and FS is pretty minimal, duelling saber is faster but missing the options of FS

and ideally you dont need passive quell on void

[summer prairie]

it's the FS passive quell that's a problem

[compact cargo]

2 psykers, 2 zealots, 3 knives 1 evi was quite fun to do for damnation
But ye I could get some footage if my pc doesn't die on me again coz of this dumb logging update

[summer prairie]

makes your blocking less good with the talent too