psyker-class

[weak galleon]

Green one for sure.

[viscid matrix]

they are both below average, dont upgrade either, save resources for when you have 330+ weapons

[weak galleon]

though wait

[weak galleon]

+% crit on repeated, hard to tell.

[unkempt juniper]

yeah, sometime this month apparently

[still apex]

yes

[weak galleon]

Green one is probably better for Horde clear.
blue one for elites.

[subtle linden]

i do like warp nexus on a surge staff tho

and warp flurry

spam fast and crit

[still apex]

how is everyone getting such low damage roll? I keep getting 80%+ damage force swords

[viscid matrix]

hopefully we can combine the 2 of them later

[unkempt juniper]

i really, really want a 2h force sword

[subtle linden]

im just using this until something better

[weak galleon]

tbh hard to tell what that stat does.
in VT2 terms it'd be meh stat (the stat itself, not the values), so it can be dumped, but DT is not exactly VT2.

[still apex]

nemesis force weapon style halberds would be nice

[unkempt juniper]

i don't think they will add any big polearms

[magic hull]

i just looked at the primary and secondary lol

[viscid matrix]

nice, if it had better stats it would be perfect, otherwise its pretty awesome

[subtle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-grey-knights-gif-25209492

[unkempt juniper]

actually, did they add big halberds and spears in vermintide?

[subtle linden]

i want that lightning glaive

[still apex]

yeah I agree... pity

they had them in VT2 but mostly acted like two handed swords/axes

[magic hull]

it just mean left click of staff is +24% crit while the electrical surge itself is+14 crit

[subtle linden]

i wonder if the crafting will add a way to increase the base stats or nah

[unkempt juniper]

what i really want is to be able to lower a stat and put those points anywhere else

most weapons have a least preffered stat

[stray cipher]

Lol yes let me overclock my staff

[unkempt juniper]

like collateral on the recon lasguns or blast radius on voidstrike

[weak galleon]

yeah, the grind for a good base is a total, absolute bs.
it's as if I'm playing friggin Diablo 2 here, except players cant trade items with each other.

[unkempt juniper]

trading would be actually fantastic ngl

[wooden fog]

is it actually? like not registering credit?

[magic hull]

Sweet

[weak galleon]

holy shit this is dope

[magic hull]

yeah i just upgraded it

[still apex]

wish we could get Shred on Force Swords

[subtle linden]

honestly deflector should just be a thing on force swords

[weak galleon]

perfect horde cleaner with +% dmg, perfect elite killed with +crit per hit

[unkempt juniper]

it really should

[weak galleon]

wish I could reroll my mk5.

[subtle linden]

the fact u need to have it as a blessing to have a functionality thats pretty massive QoL is weird

[warm meteor]

yeah, and deflector should have a small chance to bounce bullets back

[magic hull]

what happens if u reroll??

[weak galleon]

i dont think Brutal momentum works on every enemy youy hit in a cleave.

[weak galleon]

we dont know yet, crafting isnt here.

[bronze sierra]

bois i may have made a thicc psyker

upwards of liek 250 hp

[warm meteor]

heh

[viscid matrix]

pretty sure it will just reroll both

[warm meteor]

frontliner psyker

[viscid matrix]

it feels great doesnt it

[bronze sierra]

i mean i dont even do front line that much

[subtle linden]

i run max hp on psyker its nice

[viscid matrix]

frontline psyker goes 200hp and extra stamina

[bronze sierra]

my goal is to be a psyker with as much base health as a ogryn

[vivid merlin]

how do you get that much hp

[subtle linden]

24% max hp curios x 3

[weak galleon]

can you drop screenshots of your curios here?

[subtle linden]

20% from the curio itself and 4% from perk

[viscid matrix]

hp curios plus the 4% extra you can roll on them

[bronze sierra]

sure lemme boot up game again

[viscid matrix]

all up its 12% from rolls, plus the 3x16%

[vivid merlin]

would that not result in a max of 172hp or does it do something dumb and apply multiplicative

oh wait we have 150 base

[viscid matrix]

its % of your base hp

[subtle linden]

yes

150 hp > 100 toughness

[bronze sierra]

i can also drop my vodstrike

[subtle linden]

thats y i like max hp

[bronze sierra]

screen shot

[warm meteor]

does psykinetics wrath (level 10 feat) effect all sword attacks or just the special action

[vivid merlin]

is 258 not the max then*

[subtle linden]

ya

[weak galleon]

special, afaik

[bronze sierra]

BTW im still working to get 2 of my three curios to trascendent

[subtle linden]

if ur talking maximum possible toughness and maximum possible max hp its like 60 toughness vs 108 hp

is the difference

almost double the hp value because of the base multiplier

and higher value 20% over the 16%

[weak galleon]

160 toughness means you regen 48 toughness in 5 seconds with 1 warp charge from any source (BB kills or passive WC farming talents).

that's definitely something to consider

[viscid matrix]

except there is a bug right now, so more toughness above 100 means you take more hp damage

[bronze sierra]

counter point quell toughness

[weak galleon]

especially with amount of ranged combat at Tier 5.

[subtle linden]

i mean u can recover toughness while still being max hp too

[stuck bridge]

oh my god this toughness glitch is fucking insane

[weak galleon]

yeah, i know

[stuck bridge]

cant play psyker cause >psyker and cant play vet because you get hit a couple of times and yer done

[viscid matrix]

after its fixed we can go back to toughnes, but until then gotta stay with hp

[fathom zealot]

Ok, I don't think I can ever complete the pick n mix penance, this shit is crazy. It feels 100% rng based on wether or not you get a line of gunners or something

[bronze sierra]

yall ready for pic dump?

[tall mesa]

guys what s the highest item level you ve seen so far ?

[void anvil]

i actually really suggest +wound with the toughness regen and toughness damage down perks instead of the +%toughness blessing

[subtle linden]

this is the highest i have

[weak galleon]

quell is generally worse for toughness generation compared to WC farming talents, from personal experience.
BB requires almost no quell, and when you can fire away with a staff you are usually quite safe.

[void anvil]

reason being that the base toughness on psyker is so low the %up isnt so good

[weak galleon]

while toughness on WC generates mid-combat even if you are in deep melee.

[bronze sierra]

sorry bout mass pic dump but wanted to share

[subtle linden]

that 21% max hp base is fire tho

[bronze sierra]

right

[subtle linden]

if u ever get another 2

and roll 4% on all 3

thats like 75% more hp!

[bronze sierra]

im DUMMY THICC

[weak galleon]

the saving grace of that voidstrike is +% damage against trash mobs/flak.

[viscid matrix]

the fact we have given up so much toughness and hp for middling damage is very annoying

[bronze sierra]

oh yea ilya

[tall mesa]

is that very fancy sword worth something ?

[subtle linden]

were a glass noncannon unfortunately

[bronze sierra]

i have another one thats way better

[viscid matrix]

Psyker are the Glass

[subtle linden]

were a glass nonlethal taser

[weak galleon]

otherwise would look for a different base.

[fathom zealot]

glass cannon my ass

[weak galleon]

holy shiet.

[void anvil]

french on a rapier, how appropriate lol

[tall mesa]

oh sorry i forgot again

[weak galleon]

if those modifiers are what i think they are, it's damn fucking good.

[bronze sierra]

im getting that one to transcendent

though suppressing barrage is kinda doodoo for that i want to use it for

[tall mesa]

oh really ? it says +17.5%on mutliple targets and 5% crits 5 stacks

[weak galleon]

condition for crit stacking? hits or dodge?

[tall mesa]

+4%crit passiv and some random affix

hit

[weak galleon]

holy shit

yeah, top tier rapier right there

[teal needle]

Rapier stats: 🥖🥖🥖 -- --

[bronze sierra]

id love the warp transfer thing

[subtle linden]

bro god damn its always a lvl 3 repair instead of lvl 4 repair

😠

[tall mesa]

so its notjust fancy nice 😄

[sour coral]

Can a surge staff hit weak spot with its charge attack?

[tall mesa]

thank you ilya sorry for Fr angain

[subtle linden]

no

[tall mesa]

i ll re dl the eng version tomorrow

[weak galleon]

fucking 367 base rating almost full crit build rapier.
Finesse lacking, but well, nothing to complain about at all.

it shreds, I assume?

[bronze sierra]

also i did have a really funny curio

[unkempt juniper]

thats pretty good, but i consider cleave damage to be the throwaway stat you want to be lower.
I'd still buy it tho, it has great dmg and penetration

which complement each other well

[bronze sierra]

+15% toughness, and seconday +5% toughness

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon i m not sure the pattern is super cleave oriented on rapier tho

[bronze sierra]

so its just, ah yes 20 toughness

[night marten]

is there a Kinetic Killer 4 penance?

[weak galleon]

with that amount of crits it should shred both hordes and elites alike.

[subtle linden]

such a bad blessing

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon i just got it ( as you see it) from a random 3/5

[bronze sierra]

i did get an okay purgatus staff

[unkempt juniper]

i believe there it only goes to 3 but im not 100% sure.

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon on my way to try it now

[weak galleon]

from Malice? What the actual fuck, how.
I'm getting nothing on Heresy.

is there a bug somewhere or what

[tall mesa]

huhuhu i can't tell : D

[unkempt juniper]

that is actually one of the better blessings on dueling swords, the rending makes it somewhat easier to 1hko headshot dreg melee

[teal needle]

Hmmm it's not exactly perfect but I'm definitely thinking about buying it. Thoughts?

[tall mesa]

i ve had some rpetty fancy things from level 1 as well.

[warm dagger]

highest rating ive seen so far, how much higher does it go?

[void anvil]

my best staff:

[night marten]

that's really good

[subtle linden]

its bad cuz it rolled the low rend % instead ohigher

[tall mesa]

514 yours is the highest i ve see so far.

[bronze sierra]

account

[warm dagger]

im guessing 600 is the cap tbh

[bronze sierra]

thats a void strike tho

[weak galleon]

all i heard was - assassination missions?

[void anvil]

grab it my dude, surge isnt the meta rn but still thats almost max rolls

[magic hull]

HOLY SHIT THE AXE IS TOO GOOD

[subtle linden]

which one

[ebon jolt]

I thought it was 530?

[subtle linden]

the mark 5?

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon some guy said earlier to spamm assassination on malice. but i haveen't paid enough attention to confirm nor deny anything

haven't*

[magic hull]

yehh

[woeful elbow]

I love when Pyskers keep randomly exploding, forgetting their F refreshes their peril build-up

[subtle linden]

horde cleaver 👍

[woeful elbow]

[weak galleon]

grab it. High roll.

possible to find better, but hard

the base, that is.

[magic hull]

imagine having that axe for preacher tho :(( would have been perfect

[subtle linden]

assassination missions are generally pretty short and u can rush boss

[ebon jolt]

combat axe?

[subtle linden]

but other mission types can take forever

[weak galleon]

welcome to the club.

[woeful elbow]

Why use an Axe when Force sword

[subtle linden]

axe has better horde clear

especially the mark 5's block attack

[woeful elbow]

the force sword push is still good

[subtle linden]

that shit is busted

[night marten]

but that's what my purge staff is for

[void anvil]

also axe go chop chop and deletes assassination boss shield

[woeful elbow]

I enjoy the force sword personally

[devout halo]

fair enough lol

[subtle linden]

i have both and swap between depends on mission

[weak galleon]

no, it's actually something that allows us to play the damn game on par with classes with sane talent trees.
plus it does require Psyker's unique talent to work.

[woeful elbow]

I'd rather have a 10 min cooldown (even though its egregious) than being timed out for typing 2 messages within 2 seconds like what happened to me several days ago

[autumn cairn]

why'd they make Cliffhanger easier but not change Going Out With a Bang (penances) 😩

[woeful elbow]

[subtle linden]

i think i got going out with a bang randomly

[autumn cairn]

seems bad to have an achievement for getting yourself killed in a team game no?

[weak galleon]

both are top tier picks for psyker.

[sleek hornet]

im actually kind of caught off guard lvl2 difficulty is on darktide compared to say, champion on vermintide

[woeful elbow]

ive always been a fan of swords over axes anyway

Although, if they add a power axe..

[sleek hornet]

usually play sienna, and the staff is somewhat similiar, what tips yall got for staffer and lv2?

[weak galleon]

in VT2? Sure.
Mk5 Axe is not a VT2 Axe. it's something else.

[night marten]

honestly just go into malice or heresy with a purge or surge staff. soften them up a tiny bit, then make yourself explode by charging BB. the hardest part about it is being a shitty team mate by intentionally blowing up lol. there's lots of multi-elite/special packs that spawn

[flat moat]

whats a good staff ?

[woeful elbow]

i meant in general

[woeful elbow]

lightning

[weak galleon]

ah, ic. we're minmaxing here 🙂

[flat moat]

the lighting one ?

[autumn cairn]

ya it doesn't seem that hard i just hate doing it oon purpose lol

[sleek hornet]

how exactly lightning work? feels like it only hits 4-5 and doesnt really outright kill em

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon the sword is bugged.

[night marten]

I know it's rough

[woeful elbow]

🤢

[weak galleon]

??

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon i can't use it pops my staff automatically after a hit i have no clue

checking my bindings

[weak galleon]

probably smth with your keybindings

[autumn cairn]

it doesn't do that much damage beyond the first target, just stuns. try it out in the psykhanium

[stray cipher]

It's more used for it's crowd control because it can stun elites/specialists and ranged enemies helping your team close in

[autumn cairn]

best use for it IMO is flushing enemies out of cover because it'll hit ones you didn't even know were there lol

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon nope bug confirmed. i tried only clicing my left button and i swap weapon out of the blue

[magic hull]

its used to stop pox bomber, bigger targets, really good agaisnt stunning elites

[tall mesa]

clicking*

[weak galleon]

doesn't happen with me, though. I think people would report it if they had this bug

[tall mesa]

oh i found it

it's indeed a bind bug

strafe left is also a swap apparently

that must be a azerty qwerty thing

an*

@weak galleon okay basically i poped a 327 crit in the back of a shieldbreaker without having any buuf

buff

[unkempt juniper]

i honestly love that all the veterans are suffering rn

this is their penance for all abusing tf out of powerswords

[tall mesa]

592 on a regular muty

holy cow

790 wow

[spark forum]

Ahh another pug heresy ends to an impossible to target for BB trapper shooting his net through 30 poxwalkers

[magic hull]

[weak galleon]

what's the problem with it?

[sleek hornet]

beautiful answers and replies and help, thanks yall

[weak galleon]

i'd rather have them buff psyker to veteran level of fun, than nerf veteran.

[acoustic minnow]

What'd be the best feats for levelling a Psyker? + Toughness on quell?

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon regular horde mobs are OS with a light attack 90% of the time.

@weak galleon it s a light saber i won't sleep tonight xD

on malice OC

[weak galleon]

yes, that's mk5.
now shush and enjoy your fun.

[sleek hornet]

what happend with powerswords?

[weak galleon]

...and move the difficulty slider up 😄

[tall mesa]

the emperor of baguette has favored me :p

[south monolith]

Is this a good staff?

[weak galleon]

Extremely.

[tall mesa]

i will enjoy the butter a few more games :p

[weak galleon]

aim at their heads

slightly above.

you'll ahve infinite peril during hordes, afaik.

that's exactly the voidstrike I want.

[weak galleon]

I meant the Mk5 Axe.
but yeah, your Duelist blade is pretty damn on par with Mk5 Axe with all those crits.

[magic hull]

quick ques how do i edit customization of my weapon

[spark forum]

does transfer peril work on surge at all

[weak galleon]

no clue. logically, it shouldn't.

at least not on charge attack

[spark forum]

yeah, would make it insanely op if it hit several weakspots

[sleek hornet]

Siblings... lightning staff is gruesome lol, just checked out what left click does, hit a corrupted guardsmans hand and looked, nothing but bone and some meat dangling

[warm meteor]

can the void stagger dogs in heresy?

[warm meteor]

its left click is the same as void strike and trauma so they are gruesome as well!

i like getting headshots with it

[sleek hornet]

void strike is the special on force sword or?

[weak galleon]

Staff.

[warm meteor]

its the explosive ball staff

shoots in a straight line

is our longest ranged staff overall

[sleek hornet]

ah, ive only gotten the lightning staff so far

[weak galleon]

you'll get it starting from 18-20, afaik.

[warm meteor]

nah its much lower

[weak galleon]

unless they changed it

[sleek hornet]

i just hit 8

[warm meteor]

void strike was my first staff

[weak galleon]

the fuck

[sleek hornet]

I shot a guy in the butt and i regret my choices

[warm meteor]

level 15 is the last staff you unlock

its purge

[weak galleon]

guess i was just unlucky

in beta.

[warm meteor]

ive only had the one void from beta so far

[sleek hornet]

do the staff kills count as warp attacks?

[warm meteor]

always checking for an upgrade. i like how cheap the void strikes attacks are, mine has super low warp resist and is still my cheapest to use staff

[sleek hornet]

or just our G ability

[warm meteor]

yes they do

so do the force swords "charged" strikes

so the 10 percent toughness for warp attack kill is designed for staff focussed gameplay

[sleek hornet]

nice

[fierce hazel]

So it's obv that purga can't do weakspot dmg. But could it proc the weak spot quelling?

[warm meteor]

id suppose not? it gets the ability still since its left click can weak spot hit

but ur lightning attacks wont ever proc it ;-;

[fierce hazel]

Purga is flamethrower

[warm meteor]

oh ur right

[sleek hornet]

so surge = lightning

[warm meteor]

then ur never getting the procs

why does it even get the trait lol

[small spindle]

what blessing should I go for surge force staff?

[fierce hazel]

Idk if it does

[gloomy obsidian]

Siblings and Beloved, I have Achieved Malleus Monstronum

[warm meteor]

omg

[fierce hazel]

Gib

[warm meteor]

with randoms or a group

[mint burrow]

Same here

[gloomy obsidian]

Randoms

[mint burrow]

Just got it today and it is glorious

[warm meteor]

wtf

[tacit jungle]

what foul sorcery

tell me how

[ebon jolt]

I call them flame/void/shock and the fourth doesn't exist.

[warm meteor]

trauma is decent CC and horde clear

[hazy ibex]

Straight up asked randos if I could solo a monstrosity and they let me. First try.

[warm meteor]

try it out in psykanium, it can knock down ogryns

[gloomy obsidian]

YEs sir

[warm meteor]

id never use it tho since weird to aim

but it does have a weird place

[gloomy obsidian]

I Recommend Sliding to help avoid Beast of Nurgle and maybe have others kite every now and again

[tacit jungle]

I've buttbuddies to form a 4-man with but doesn't it take dummy long to just bb a monstrosity

[gloomy obsidian]

Yeah Finally got a decent lobby to kite it in

[gloomy obsidian]

A bit but not much longer than maybe 5-8 mins

[cloud ridge]

for the palpatine staff is it better to just spam attacks or charge?

[tacit jungle]

it's the only penance I'm still missing

[ruby merlin]

@tacit jungle You just need to find a daemonhost

then one psyker with peril block tanks it

and you bb it down slowly

[tacit jungle]

oh my fucking god you're a genious

[weak galleon]

palpatine staff is CC for high level difficulties.

[ruby merlin]

ogryn perma blockers works too

[tacit jungle]

I've an ogryn with shield, he's tanked it before

[ruby merlin]

yeah either way works, but psyker might be easier to find

[weak galleon]

for CC - spam

[ruby merlin]

because we all need that penance haha

[weak galleon]

otherwise, charge.

[tacit jungle]

I play with my slopeheaded ogryn bro pretty much every day

[gloomy obsidian]

True would have but found none

[warm meteor]

heyyyyy i got a new voidstrike! it has transfer too

[ruby merlin]

We should create a psyker only heresy group

then we'll get it all eventually, help each other etc

[warm meteor]

rating 300 which is good for my level

[small spindle]

TIL you can cancel the psycher's pop animation with your ability. I don't recall that being a thing in vermintide 2 but I can't remember

[pine iris]

dangerous weapon (for the owner)

[little ether]

anyone know how unstable power blessing works?

[fierce hazel]

I almost got malleus monstrum first try with my friends in the pro order beta. Best of nurge spawned in a huge open area to kite and they all blocked the doors to take care of the hordes. I got down to the last like 4 brain pops and one of them dc'd and the bot shot it. I was so fuckin angry

[hazy ibex]

Thats brutal

[fierce hazel]

[warm meteor]

charging just does more damage, so normally you will be using the uncharged version. however on metal enemies charged attacks can supplement you teams damage while also providing CC. so charge if its absolutely safe but dont stress over it as spam will do 90 percent of the work anyways

[fierce hazel]

Haven't gotten a good opertunity to try since

[small spindle]

ex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXYHQzqDez4

[tacit jungle]

I swear I can feel the pain rn, don't put like this

[fierce hazel]

And haven't played with them after the change to 90%

[flat moat]

what lvl do you unlock the Palpatine staff

[warm meteor]

level 8? or 7?

[warm meteor]

its very low

[flat moat]

cool

[warm meteor]

you will haev all staffs unlocked by level 15

so its not too bad to grind for any of them

[woven wigeon]

Heavy Laspistol staff

[tall mesa]

when you re so broken you can pass through walls.

[warm meteor]

its the store thats the main problem

[woven wigeon]

The one you use until you get the later ones

Very brave of them to make it require ammo

[warm meteor]

i like the shredder autopistol staff for the ratatatat tat sound it makes

autopistols in this game have some insane full auto lol, whole clip gone in like 3 seconds

[celest oar]

wow the stats on this... if only it wasnt a trauma https://i.imgur.com/quFmikI.png

[subtle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-how-do-sponge-bob-square-pants-underwear-gif-5613107

ogryn cosmetic

[weak galleon]

would still lack AoE stat for maxed out.
I've got a trauma like that too((

[celest oar]

The hunt for good pysker staffs is real

my pysker is always poor and lacking materials 🤣

[warm meteor]

need an option to turn off guns being in the stores

[hazy ibex]

I'm just waiting for the other options in the techpriest store

[meager eagle]

[warm meteor]

the only time id consider a firearm is if i was going all in on the force sword and wanted all my peril to go to spamming its abilities and blocking

[hazy ibex]

I'm sure they will let me customize the staff somehow so I don't have to keep scrounging the store for scraps

[celest oar]

Look at the bright side... at least your daily store dosent look like this https://i.imgur.com/86hP1BZ.png

[gleaming frost]

Purg staff any good in heresy/damnation or is being a stunslut better?

[weak galleon]

Congrats! couldn't do that one yet.

[warm meteor]

it does tho... it does

[mint burrow]

I got lucky with that one

[meager eagle]

thank you!! got super lucky with like 8 shotgunners spawning together

[fast slate]

is there a way to make psy a tank?

[mint burrow]

Play ogryn

[gray kelp]

from what I understand scaling changes made purg/void good options for heresy+ but surge remains the strongest option overall

[weak galleon]

Yes.

[warm meteor]

you can off tank an pull aggro with a deflector force sword and the "gain peril on block" feat

but you still arent the main tank

[celest hedge]

I think the warp charge build might be it? being able to gain regen in both melee and range combat, on top of getting it from teammates

[fast slate]

hmm thats what im doing now but is there anything else thatll help?

[weak galleon]

Two ways, even.

[mint burrow]

Realistically though force sword + deflector + peril on block

[warm meteor]

you will lack the stats and other skills, but oh boy can you take bullets like a sponge

[fast slate]

like are there stats i would want to prioritize if im doing the defelctor build?

[warm meteor]

i definitely consider the playstyle tank lite, or a side tank due to the lack of support in our feats for it other then the 1 talent

[weak galleon]

one involves FSword + Deflector perk. Possibly Kinetic Deflection talent.

Another one involves non-Force weapon + Kinetic Deflection.

both have pros and cons.

[celest hedge]

can the free brain burst form flayer give warp charges on kill?

[gray kelp]

yes

doesnt generate peril either

[warm meteor]

i guess health if you plan on seeing melee more often? idk tho nihulis prolly has a better answer. for feats stuff that reduces peril could be nice to keep your blocking capabilities up as much as possible

[weak galleon]

FSword + Deflector perk for jack of all trades Tank. Kinetic Deflector if you wish to double down on your blocking capabilities.
Kinetic Deflection + Not-a-force sword weapon for extreme melee tankiness, comparable to that of Ironbreaker.

[warm meteor]

can the force sword get quells on weakspot hits trait?

[polar gulch]

never even seen a purple in the shop, just blues

[weak galleon]

Yes.

[celest hedge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=37e08af9-6f77-4e7a-88f8-587c5f730f52
here's a kind of basic slapped together build for tanky psyker, one version of it

[warm meteor]

it has plenty of attacks that allow easy headshots too so that could support keeping your peril down for more blocks

[weak galleon]

excuse me, but in what world is that a Tank psyker?

[tall jay]

no its 3 auto guns and an axe

[celest hedge]

someone asked what a tanky psyker build would be, so I slapped one together

[weak galleon]

speaking of Talents alone.
perks dont show me when I open the site.

[gray kelp]

FWIW force sword + deflector + kinetic perk is very good for blocking, particularly makes ressing people a lot easier

[celest hedge]

i only did the talents since those are the main things for the build

[warm meteor]

i thought they meant a psyker who tanks for the team, so a force sword with deflector will be able to draw more aggro and pressure

[gray kelp]

helps you can knock crushers on their ass with pushstab too lol

[celest hedge]

weapon set up can be anything you want, and I don't think weapon set up really effects the build too much

[warm meteor]

then end them with a charged attack haha

[celest hedge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=37e08af9-6f77-4e7a-88f8-587c5f730f52
and another version of a tanky psyker

[cloud ridge]

what are thge melee waepons i should be looking to use?

[weak galleon]

like, there's a tank psyker that can survive Daemonhost on Tier4+ bashing it at for prolonged periods of time. Probably second best block in game for melee after Shield Ogryn.
There's a tank psyker that can protect itself from ranged weapons.

The one in the first link is neither of these.

[indigo cypress]

I’d go the warp charges restoring 30 toughness, then taking all the feats that generate charges

[warm meteor]

the dueling sword is unique to us? why

[gray kelp]

force sword is great if you get deflector perk, probably duelling swords as an alternative

[cloud ridge]

ah okay which dueling sword?

[indigo cypress]

Wait, the dueling sword is unique?

[queen lava]

it drives me nuts that psyker gets so many guns in the shop considering staffs and the force sword are the only weapons that really utilize any class mechanics at all

[celest hedge]

you can build alot of peril with deflector and tranquality, than use quicken to purge your peril quickly so you cna get alot of toughness back and start blocking hits again

[weak galleon]

Force Sword, Axe Mk5 (only /w Kinetic Deflection), Dueling Blades, Dagger.

[warm meteor]

i like my chain sword but its not a very class focussed choice

[gray kelp]

not 100% sure, from what I've played I think either mk 4 or 5 are good choices and 2 is eh due to heavy pattern. could b wrong

[indigo cypress]

Live and die by the claw sword parry spam

[frigid frigate]

I have given up on psyker bro he just doesnt get anything fun

[warm meteor]

heh

[frigid frigate]

I mean like

staffs are fun right

[warm meteor]

can you parry boss attacks?

[celest hedge]

chain sword is a fair general weapon and the rev is great for specials in close range, sure you can kill most stuff in 1-2 brain bursts, but 1/2 hits of a reved chainsword doesn't build peril

[unkempt juniper]

[indigo cypress]

He gets to pop heads, that is his sole mechanic

[warm meteor]

super fun

[frigid frigate]

too bad it fucking sucks

[warm meteor]

the most fun i have and what keeps me on this class tbh

[random brook]

@weak galleon axe can get deflection???

[indigo cypress]

lmao

[celest hedge]

i saw someone kitting the demonhost and using the parry to block alot of their hits

[frigid frigate]

every class in this game just feels like watered down versions of vermintide classes

[gray kelp]

note that you can fs special at 99% peril and not blow up, and it hits harder than revving from what I can tell

[queen lava]

would be fun to get guns with force mechanis

[dawn orchid]

I'm guessing warp resistance and quell speed are the most important stats for psyker staffs?

[warm meteor]

does the parry use stamina like a normal block?

[weak galleon]

no, Kinetic Deflection is your level 20 talent.

Deflector is a blessing on Force sword.

[unkempt juniper]

dmg and charge speed are.

[indigo cypress]

You can parry most boss attacks, the overhead hammer swing goes through though

[warm meteor]

glorious

[dawn orchid]

Even for the surge staff?

[warm meteor]

overheads are ez dodges

[weak galleon]

Quell is least important because, as somebody brought math here, it doesn't scale well.

[unkempt juniper]

yeah

[warm meteor]

become parry king

[weak galleon]

not sure if applies to all staves.

[indigo cypress]

Yeah, that is how I’ve been tanking bosses

[celest hedge]

from what I tried, no, so if you cna time it well, you can block hits without using stamina, and I don't think parrying attacks stops it from regenning like a dodge would

[unkempt juniper]

warp resistance is 3rd most important imo

[ebon jolt]

Recon Lasgun + crit +burn on crit = ❤️

[warm meteor]

some staffs might like different stats but idk

[celest hedge]

but the parry can't really stop furry attacks, like you can parry a rager but they hit multiple times in a row and one parry won't block everything

[weak galleon]

I'd definitely grab that lasgun for collection at least.

[unkempt juniper]

i honestly think dueling swords should have had the parry instead of the catachan swords.
it just fits the theme of a dueling sword so much more than 'haha big knife counterattack'

[dawn orchid]

Interesting, and should I be bothering to charge for the surge staff or just mash it for maximum stuns?

[cloud ridge]

is it really ever worth it to run the 4% brainburst talent on 15?

[stray cipher]

I mean the precision strike special on duelling fits for it, it just sucks

[indigo cypress]

Idk why they can’t just give it to both to make them more unique

[weak galleon]

if you care about warp charges - absolutely.

[warm meteor]

for the voidstrike, damage vs armoured enemies is prolly what it wants right?

[celest hedge]

if you mean communion, it's so good

[ebon jolt]

I think so depending on what staff you're running.

[polar gulch]

I'd like it better if you yelled "Die!" or "Rat scum!" when you used it

[unkempt juniper]

i am not a surge staff user often, i use voidstrike mainly so idrk, but it feels ot me like charging is almost always worth it

[celest hedge]

communion changes hgow psyker plays so much

[weak galleon]

it's not 4% brainburst, it's 4% WC on kill from entire team

[warm meteor]

and its glorious

[ebon jolt]

If you can't easily trigger the 10% brain burst communion is great.

[warm meteor]

lots of AOE staff proc it practically instantly

[indigo cypress]

Yeah 4% and a guardsman chucks a grenade into a horde killing how many?

[unkempt juniper]

you want dmg vs unarmored and dmg vs flak with warp flurry and peril transfer. at least that would be my ideal voidstrike

[celest hedge]

you can get 2 warp charges from BB kills if you're lucky, you can get warp charges from staff kills, melee kills, and teammate kills, so you pretty much always have max charges

[gray kelp]

for surge you usually spam instead of charging for more cc, charge can do decent damage vs. armored enemies though

[celest hedge]

you can build charges and maintain them without having to make sure you BB something every 20 seconds so it doesn't reset

[indigo cypress]

What does charging Surge even do?

[gray kelp]

more dmg

[warm meteor]

warp flurry is faster charging on consecutive attacks right? that would be lit on a void strike

[indigo cypress]

Just more damage?

[unkempt juniper]

yep

[gray kelp]

I think so yeah

[celest hedge]

cerebral lacerations needs some love

[sleek hornet]

looking at these penance... what is a monstroisity exatcly, and how the heck do you kill one only with brain burst damage lol

[celest hedge]

bosses

[unkempt juniper]

anything with a boss health bar

[indigo cypress]

lmao

[warm meteor]

so why extra damage vs unarmored? does the void stop one shotting them in higher diffs? does the damage fall off with each target it pens?

[sleek hornet]

lol damn thats intense

[celest hedge]

so plague ogryns, bosses you kill in assassination missions, etc

[indigo cypress]

Brainbursting bosses to death sounds fun

[unkempt juniper]

it stops 1hko fodder in heresy and damnation without it

[sleek hornet]

beasts of nurgle essentially?

[weak galleon]

for aoe damage.

[woven wigeon]

I found PLague Ogryn easier

[unkempt juniper]

and the flak armor pen is also for fodder, lots of them wear flak

[warm meteor]

i see

[sleek hornet]

right on

[unkempt juniper]

plus it helps kill ranged more

[gray kelp]

note daemonhosts count as monstrosities. If you have friends you could bring a shield ogryn, they aggro a daemonhost, afk in a corner while you kill it with bb with literally no risk

[woven wigeon]

Although hearing that ungodly noise beasts of nurgle make when they chase you to swallow you was fun

[sleek hornet]

does this game work like vermintide 2 in terms of power and stuff?

[woven wigeon]

Glad to learn about that

[weak galleon]

Weapon rating is not Power.

[gray kelp]

I should probably do that in the event they ever decide to make them not count lol

[celest hedge]

no, weapon rating of gear is just the combined power of all teh little effects

[warm meteor]

the AOE bursts do damage? in psykanium my explosions do so little damage, its just the direct hits that seem to get kills. maybe it has damage fall off if they are farther from the center of the explosion?

cuz i have in actual games one shot lasgunner without hitting them directly now that i think about it

[weak galleon]

Yeh, it falls off, there're often trash mobs that get damaged but not killed. And that's on Heresy.
Damnation would be worse.

[celest hedge]

it's the combined total of all the stats, so increasing something like the ammo stat on a gun would increase the weapon rating of that gun, but that along won't increase the damage or armor pen, only increasing damage or the armor pen stat will

[weak galleon]

plus you cant always do a full charge

[sleek hornet]

looks like lightning staff gets hounds off people too, thats the stun ya?

[weak galleon]

yes.

[warm meteor]

thats true. i do like how easy it is to suppress groups with spammed shots tho

[weak galleon]

high difficulties with Surge you are a CC bot.

[warm meteor]

like with guns you gotta shoot them to make them duck for cover, but for my staffs if they are anywhere in the vicinity of a voidstrike attack they run

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon i was wrong. a light attack does not OS random horde mobs. it takes 2 blows. but the rapier is so fast i didn't notice the difference between teh light and the armor piercing attack.

with 6 BB stacks i reached regular 932 crits on a mutant.

[weak galleon]

it should os them when it crits, no?

[tall mesa]

wich is basically a two shot

yeah but it doesn't seem to crit that much really

[weak galleon]

it depends on how much you hit same target.

[warm meteor]

ive also started to consitently dodge gunners and lasteams which feels super cool

[tall mesa]

yeah

oh yeaaah of course you re right !

i see

[warm meteor]

still hard to do against large groups tho, or when they annoyingly time their attacks one after the other

anyone notice the voidstrike can shoot thru some solid cover? im unsure which ones cuz it seems almost random

[sinful mortar]

I've noticed I can do a pretty good melee glass cannon in small groups utilizing a mix of Force Sword, dodge-quell, and some creative close-quarters mind-blowing skills

Any tips?

[weak galleon]

that's what Pushes and Dodging exists for.

[proud hare]

Yo is this any good?

[warm meteor]

hard to push when im 100 meters away haha, i was talking about gunfire

[weak galleon]

FSword is opposite of glass cannon.
Safest Psyker weapon there is.

[sinful mortar]

I use my FOrce Sword block and pretend I'm an Ion main

[warm meteor]

i dont got the deflector sowrd yet sadly

[sinful mortar]

I say "Glass Cannon" because I'm simply the most squishy player there

[flat moat]

is the lvl 5 perk essence harvest a good pick

[sinful mortar]

I go for 2-2 so far

[weak galleon]

push more often? 🙂
Push (not push -attack, just block-push) is the strongest feature of force sword.

[sinful mortar]

Warp resist and extra damage on warp charge are good to have

[tall mesa]

it appears all level 5 are good but they re triggered very differently

[tropic halo]

do you prefer the 6 charges or the chance to BB on 10 percent? i feel like the bb on 10 is like a guaranteed extra crit, but is the extra damage from 6 charges better overall?

[warm meteor]

i find on my low damage staffs that dont get lots of kills i still prefer toughness on quell.

[sinful mortar]

Whats 4X6?

[ruby merlin]

warp charges mean nothing

10% is awesome

triggers on melee attacks

[sinful mortar]

That's consistent damage over the period you maintain warp charge rather than a 1-in-10 chance of a crit

I'll take consistant dps, thank you

[warm meteor]

queitude gives tough when you ult. but does it give tough when you get a weak spot quell or your 10 percent chance to quell on kill kicks in?

[weak galleon]

that talent is normally used not for dps, but for much better WC economy

[sinful mortar]

Not to mention thos pesky Zealots spits are always stealing my warp charge kills

[sinful mortar]

WC?

[weak galleon]

Warp Charge

[sinful mortar]

Well, yes I understand tha, and thats what I like about it

6 warp charges with the warp resist benefit of perk 2 is definitely useful

[celest hedge]

I want to try messing with some psyker build ideas but I feel like alot of stuff that would make a build doesn't work with each other

[weak galleon]

10% chance to BB each 15 seconds, means another warp charge each 15-20seconds.

it synergizes really well with 30% toughness over 5 seconds on WC gain.
it doesn't matter if your WC are maxed out

[sinful mortar]

I want to make a sort of tanky Psyker playing with toughness buffs

[boreal wave]

It irritates me that a lot of abilities that seem like they would work super well together are in the same tier.

[warm meteor]

sometimes tho is feels like by the time you reach 6 stack it wasnt worth it over having 4 be the cap. the 10 percent BB chance gives a charge so you reach max faster which might end up saving you more peril then having the higher cap

[sinful mortar]

True, most engagements are either already over or devolved into melee by thta point

[celest hedge]

If I run something like quickening or blaze, than I need to be able to build alot of WC, and if I can build alot of WC, I'd want the perks that get better with more charges, like, like tranquality and kinetic shield, but those want as many charges as possible as often as possible, which means I don't want to use my ult since I'd lose my charges

[warm meteor]

if the peril resist effect peril on block then it could work well with the force swords abilities since you will want to focus on melee anyways with that build

[sinful mortar]

Also, would you agree with my point that while Ogryns, like Titan mains, share a collective braincell, we cultured individuals share a hivemind?

[boreal wave]

Most engagements are basically over before you hit even 4

[fierce hazel]

That's cannon tho

[sinful mortar]

True

[sinful mortar]

Eh, fair

[fierce hazel]

[sinful mortar]

In the Mourningstar, I had a very memorable chat experience

[subtle linden]

man just need heresy espionage and im done with my t3 hat

[warm meteor]

blaze with the purge staff get WC like crazy or so ive heard. a little easier to reach that 6 cap fast enough to be useful.

[boreal wave]

That's my problem with the warp charge thing. The psyker is supposed to ramp up over time, but unless it's a final climactic horde or boss, all we're doing is spending time charging up and never doing anything decisive.

[flat moat]

are we going to get a subclass for the psyker ?

[warm meteor]

i hope so, biomancy would be a fun tanky melee psyker

[weak galleon]

Tried in Psykhanium, wasn't impressed.
Maybe should try again in actual Heresy+

[warm meteor]

lots of psychic powers are straight up buff spells for team mates so we could see a true support class

[sinful mortar]

Me: squeals in Psyker at acquiring first force staff
Chat: Doesn't Psyker squealing usually imply that a warp entity is about to emerge and kill things?
Me: Usually, yes. Fortunately, it was Tzeentch recoiling in terror of the things I'd do with it.
Chat: That tracks.

[sinful mortar]

Wouldn't that be Techpriest?

[weak galleon]

that 10% BB chance feels like too good to pass by, for WC economy (and subsequently, toughness regen)

[nimble gorge]

Bold of you to assume Techpriests would do anything themselves

[south zephyr]

for the Going Out With a Bang penance, what exactly qualifies as an "elite" enemy?

[warm meteor]

i dont use the purge staff or have the level 30 feats unlocked so im only passing info ive heard and some gameplay ive seen. im a void strike main at this point haha

[tawny nacelle]

im just hoping for slight buffs and alot of changes for psyker to make the class more bearable, because seeing my vet friend and my ogryn friend and my zealot friend do so much dmg and killing things consistently, makes me feel a bit tiny

[warm meteor]

a tech adept could also be a support based class. so could a medicae

[sinful mortar]

Anything not holding a standard melee or ranged weapon

[nimble gorge]

I used the purge staff on one mission, and I hated it

[tall mesa]

@weak galleon it s satisfying to pop 2k damage out of nowhere. but having 2 stacks for a perma 8% can open a new OS treshold for specifics mobs

[south zephyr]

k, been trying to get it but no luck so far, last penance I need for second helmet

[warm meteor]

i actually like it a bit. its left click staggers dogs and is super quick! it staggers other annoying things too while coming out faster then the surges attack. it actually scores kills too but i feel exposed vs ranged units so that stops me from using it

[sinful mortar]

Surge is the chain lightning, right?

[celest hedge]

If I want to do a quietitude build, than quickening is the best choice at level 30 since being able to use my ult often means I can drain peril often, but getting WCs without communion takes alot of time and I'd have to quell manually a few times in order to get more than 2-3 charges with BB. If I get tranquality I can manually build more WC with bursts, than I should get warp battery so I can take advantage of the resistance more and so I can get more stacks to reduce the cooldown of my ult, but if I have 6 charges, than I wouldn't want to just throw them away to use my ult, and if i'm not using my ult, th an building towards it is kind of pointless even though it's the main part of my build

[nimble gorge]

I prefer void or force for those reasons

[celest hedge]

it's a mess

[sinful mortar]

I've found its good for quickly weaking hordes for melee combat

[warm meteor]

like if i see a sniper while using a void strike i can fire a secondary in its general direction and that will usually get it to run away if not get a kill with a head shot. or stagger it enough that i can try and aim a proper shot on it

if i see a sniper with a purge i gotta hope i can BB it before it shoots

[weak galleon]

yeah, lack of 10% BB talent really shows.
Like, it's possible to reach 6 WCs on Purge with lvl30 one, buut- you gotta kill mobs with DoTs, and not purge fire stream itself.

[tropic halo]

That is a good argument for void since apparently us psykers can't use the warp through railings

[frigid frigate]

I want subclasses

[warm meteor]

i really wish they nerfed the chance but changed it too "if smth dies while on fire"

cuz other classes steal soul blaze kills too easily

heck we do it

[frigid frigate]

I just can't fucking deal with the fact that I've already played all the classes and haven't liked any of them

[sinful mortar]

The heretic seeing me before going into cover only to get their head popped a few seconds later:

[frigid frigate]

Headpopping is a myth

[sinful mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-gif-21859347

[weak galleon]

That would be a gamechanger.
like BW's... i think lvl 25, talent. in Vt2.

[warm meteor]

when i played vermintide 2 it made me realize i wouldve disliked vermintide 1 alot lol. they said we would be seeing a new class every quarter. so 3 months from now we should have smth

[frigid frigate]

I mean they also said we'd have 70+ weapons at launch so who knows

I'm just bummed out

[warm meteor]

smth important to note is that the playstyle of each subclass is very dependant on weapon choices. so if you dont like the current weapons then a new subclass might not fix you disliking them

[frigid frigate]

I've tried most of the weapons and the weapons are bland

[tall mesa]

they re releasing the weapinsmith someday

[sinful mortar]

At some point I'd like to get a gaggle of psykers together for a run and just delete a boss with superior intellect

[tawny nacelle]

so in 3 years we will have equal to the vt2 launch 😄

[tall mesa]

weaponsmith

[warm meteor]

then it might be not the game for you. or maybe they will add smth down the line you will love

[celest hedge]

what makes the weapons bland for you

[sinful mortar]

I know people think 4gryns are a force to be contended with

[warm meteor]

i love the setting alot which keeps me in

[frigid frigate]

Dude I absolutely loved Vermintide II. The setting just everything about it

[warm meteor]

im also a chaos player and they are forcing me to play as loyalists

[frigid frigate]

I like the setting for 40K DONT get me wrong but like

I miss me bardin

[sinful mortar]

But a Psyker can be very good at flash damage I've found

[smoky saffron]

Chaostide when

[frigid frigate]

I miss the songs he'd sing about battle

[tawny nacelle]

i miss the way bardin talked about stairs

[sinful mortar]

Bardin mains, unite!

[frigid frigate]

The dialogue in Darktide also feels a lot more droning.

[sinful mortar]

Out cast Engi is my main

[frigid frigate]

No fun interactions all straight to business unless your a Psyker

[frigid frigate]

I was a Ironbreaker

[sinful mortar]

Aye, it does get repetitive

[warm meteor]

i mained kruber until they gave me the closest thing to a support class with saltspyres priest dlc

[smoky saffron]

The dialogue in darktide is meaningless and pokes at things that have no depth to begin with

[sleek hornet]

is there a point to charge the surge staff, seems tod o the same wether charged or not

[sinful mortar]

Ah yes, let me defeat with the power of friendship and this gatling gun I built

[warm dagger]

is this a good dagger? feels like the blessings are lackluster

[warm meteor]

rezzing people back to full health after they were dummied by 5 chaos warriors was godly

[frigid frigate]

Vermintide II's dialogue was much more fulfilling

[sleek hornet]

i could see DT reaching VT levels of dialogue with time

Fatshark much more experienced now

[frigid frigate]

I only hope

[sinful mortar]

Even if you didn't play him, Saltzpyre was a deity

[tall mesa]

@smoky saffron that npc with the moustache is infuriating. he is the most useless npc i ve ever seen and there are some very strong contenders.

[sleek hornet]

took VT a hot minute to get that sexy saltzpyre level of dialogue "Peasant"

[tall mesa]

@smoky saffron his lines are shittier than legolas's inLOTR

[warm meteor]

wait wait wait. are we really gonna do this whole rose tinted glasses look at VM2s dialogue? the game that had tons of complaints about that very subject?

[flat moat]

the shop dude ?

[frigid frigate]

Absolutely because they had more personality

[warm meteor]

the dialogue made some characters growth not exist

[tall mesa]

nah the pseudp officer/vet/soldier but wearing coat

[frigid frigate]

We make our character's personality and traits for it to affect fuck all about the dialogue

[warm meteor]

it became almost enitirely focussed on quips

[smoky saffron]

I still don't understand why cutscenes were added

There's no story

[frigid frigate]

And that's what I loved about it

Everyone was so snarky

[sinful mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kE4YI3jX5to

[woven wigeon]

One time I got yeeted by a Chaos Spawn down the landslide cliff on Halescourge and I died upon hitting the ground. Then Saltz slapped his book and picked me up from like 200 meters away. I had to hike to get back but, it was pretty funny and cool

[tall mesa]

i think his nme is morrow or something

i just hate this npc with all my soul

[warm meteor]

but quips are meaningless? their best dialogue was when not in a game

[worn canopy]

everyone else gets cool acquisitions

[tawny nacelle]

the story from my perspecitve is basically, i kill things, walk up to a guy/gal get talked to, then walk away repeat 6-8 times or sumthin

[worn canopy]

my acquisitions?

[sleek hornet]

That book slaps

[frigid frigate]

Quips made me laugh and there were some interactions that were genuinely meaningful

[tall mesa]

LOOOOOL

[warm meteor]

i did like when the knife ear says "okay, maybe your god IS real" when watching priest salt smite rats with holy power that he didnt have before

[frigid frigate]

Like Drunk Saltzspyre praising Bardin

[tall mesa]

such damages much high very wow xD

[worn canopy]

so much damage

[frigid frigate]

Watch Vermintalks

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAcVRys-HcnDy15aP-owxXWWdN0tRL5rX

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LeIcocQoQHk&list=PLAcVRys-HcnDy15aP-owxXWWdN0tRL5rX&index=8

I miss shit like this

[warm meteor]

personally i love darktides dialogue so far. i like that the dialogue becomes nicer as you level

[frigid frigate]

It's so funny and stupid

[smoky saffron]

Kruber was such a good dude

Shame

[woven wigeon]

I was sad when there wasn't a Vet personality more like Kruber, they're all pretty mean to anyone who's not part of the guard (and even then...)

[warm meteor]

psykers beloved being the emperor is cool, all of ogryns lines are gold

[woven wigeon]

I miss my scary himbo

[warm meteor]

zealots can be interesting but are the most bland i find

[weak galleon]

Some day.. . some day I'll find a Voidstrike base that I'll want to upgrade.
But not today it seems.
6 am, time to sleep.

[south zephyr]

out of curiosity, what are people running for a void/surge staff setup?

[tall mesa]

i find the vet to be the less intereting.

[sleek hornet]

so, hoz ya get dem ubers.. ubersr... vermin.. howz ya get dem drunk?

[warm meteor]

this is quite normal for guard to dislike other operatives. their books have alot of lore of them complaining tbh

[tall mesa]

@south zephyr with surgestaff i run only peril management and CDR.

[frigid frigate]

It feels like Darktide is a shell of a game with good core gameplay but no meat on its bones

[woven wigeon]

I like Judge zealot; you get some interesting lines like her hoping the worlds become more peaceful oneday, and being quite kind in other dialogue. They're still horrible to Psykers and zealous to an extreme, but there's some other stuff going on with them I find pretty sympathetic. Y'know, compared to the other personalities anyway lol

[frigid frigate]

Y'know wht I don't understand

[ebon jolt]

I run 2/2/1/1/1/3 for voidstaff because I don't have one that quells on weakspot.

[frigid frigate]

Why make a character backstory if it isn't used at all in game

[tawny nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042955372023001088/1048012663050993684/image.png

[tall mesa]

that s a BB spamm build

[woven wigeon]

Yeeee and I can still enjoy it! But it does mean all the Vet personalities kinda mesh together for me lol. Except the male cadian one, that one is such a cockney gremlin in the delivery

Always makes me giggle

[dawn orchid]

Any chance there's going to be an option to take a different class skill that isn't BB in the future? I hate the power and the tedium of having to maintain warp charges.

[south zephyr]

so something like X21331?

[warm meteor]

they are very much "if you arent a soldier then we arent friends" and even dislike special forces like the storm troopers due to how to the guard it feels like a random stranger comes in and steals the glory. even tho storm troopers have a much harder life and are on missions where they know before hand is suicide and without support. guard at least get tanks and other support and arent thrown into drop mission with no extractions on a regular basis

[weak galleon]

Why would you need peril resistance for BB spam.

[tawny nacelle]

that is a surge spam build with extra bb's to help out the team silly 🙂

[sleek hornet]

I think the backstory thing is cool, I got this psyker who comes from an agri world, sold fortunes on the sly, is insane and talks to a Beloved and answers the other characters in vagueness

[tall mesa]

full peril reduction and CDR would be more like X21311

[south zephyr]

Current surge staff

[sleek hornet]

but it does require effort on my part to keep up with the 'world' setting

is there a way to sell old items or what not?

[woven wigeon]

I prefer Kinetic Deflection for them super blocks, but ye apart from that that's my milquetoast force sword + voidstaff build lol

[woven wigeon]

I haven't actually done it yet, but apparently hitting "discard" on an item gives you money back

So it should be more of a "sell"

[south zephyr]

makes sense, thought you might go with the passive BB proc to generate more WC in order to get more consistent uses from Quicken

[warm dagger]

yea discarding gives money

[sleek hornet]

Nice

very cool

[tawny nacelle]

havent really tested the kinetic deflection, since it scares me if i just start blowing up all the time

[tall mesa]

with even the toughness on quelling wich is 2 if i remember correctly. that s just how i play my surge in order to perma stagger everything on sight In PU games. because this staff does no dmg anyway;

[woven wigeon]

Once you get to critical peril (around 90%) it'll use stamina instead, so there's no risk!

[frigid frigate]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kWtrK_Ht3Qw&list=PLAcVRys-HcnDy15aP-owxXWWdN0tRL5rX&index=38

[woven wigeon]

I was a bit skeptical too but it's really strong. Like, I'd say too strong, but I got threats last time I said that in here lol

[frigid frigate]

I just miss this fun dialogue

[woven wigeon]

You can hold off entire hordes and ragers

WHile reviving someone

[tawny nacelle]

but what if i need to cast anything, then 90% would kill me

[frigid frigate]

Guys I don't know what to play

[south zephyr]

might have to try it out myself, sounds like it could be good

[woven wigeon]

Depends on the staff! On my void that's not too much of an issue, and I can always quell when need be

Also you rarely go that high from blocking haha

Individual hits raise it by like 4%

Seemingly regardless of the force of the hit

It can raise quickly with the Force Sword blocking bullets though

Since they have a high rate of fire

[tawny nacelle]

hmm, might check it out tomorrow

[south zephyr]

Quelling is still faster with a staff right? Is Mind in Motion really worth taking then if you're going to quell most of the time in staff?

[sleek hornet]

swear i just heard my pysker say "For nurgle" real exasperated while draining max peril

[woven wigeon]

Yup! Especially if you have a high quell speed stat on it

I'd say Mind in Motion isn't really worth it

Especially since oyu can dodge while Quelling

[tawny nacelle]

i am going for a high stamina reg build with bullet blocking to see if it works

[stray cipher]

Or if you take Kinetic Deflection and a nonforce melee, you passively quell like as fast as if you were manually quelling with a staff....

[tall mesa]

i often hear the vet nd the zealot going a little "khorne" as well

[south zephyr]

Did they nerf movement speed while quelling with staff? Thought I'd heard something about it earlier...

[sleek hornet]

Skulls for the emperors throne or something XD

[tall mesa]

yyeah that

[sleek hornet]

blood for the empire

[woven wigeon]

Ngl if I get the ability to I might change my Psyker to Loner

The male voice drives me up the wall a bit but the female one has made me laugh often

And her evil laugh is so good

[tawny nacelle]

blood for the emperor, skulls for the golden throne

[sleek hornet]

^ there you go

this dudes flash light on his gun is super bright

ist hat a thing?

[tawny nacelle]

if stacks decayed one at a time and each stack gave 10% damage, then it would actually be quite useful to got 6 stack build

[manic birch]

🤔 so with surge staff do you spam it or let it charge fully?

[stray cipher]

It's for...if the lights go out

[tall mesa]

That s exactly how it works. But with 4% I think

[south zephyr]

spam it usually

[tall mesa]

Oh sorry not one at a time exactly

[manic birch]

I see 📝

[tall mesa]

They have their own timer tho

[south zephyr]

tbf though, fully charge can do respectable damage to armored targets

[pliant plume]

3%

[tiny sonnet]

I feel bad trying for the "Going out with a Bang" penance, more of a burden to my team than a help

[south zephyr]

still havent gotten that one

[tall mesa]

Thanks mana

[south zephyr]

always afraid it will cause a wipe

[stray cipher]

Oh deng that's nice, I'm jelly

[tawny nacelle]

got that earlier today

currently trying to get more coobs to get it to legendary 😄

never tested voidstrike staff before

[rapid cypress]

Siblings

I must blow myself up

[south zephyr]

good luck

[rapid cypress]

I hear the cool kids are calling it a 'jihad'

[tall mesa]

Nice profile pic and nickname btw

[young garnet]

im confused isnt there no salvo on staves so wouldnt that never proc and completely useless?

[rapid cypress]

ty

[tawny nacelle]

i got "going out with a back yesterday, and ill be going for the other two thingys today

[rapid cypress]

I look like Farquaad

[tall mesa]

You have a square head ?

[south zephyr]

With BB being a noodle at heresy+, is it really worth taking Kinetic Barrage over Quicken?

[tawny nacelle]

im breadsworth ingame if anyone has seen me

[tall mesa]

Yes slightly

[south zephyr]

imagine the day FatShark makes BB scale like grenades

[tall mesa]

It s a way better burst but not something extraordinary

[rapid cypress]

Too pretty for a helmet

[tall mesa]

^^

[ruby merlin]

@south zephyr BB is still very useful in damnation to take out snipers and bombers safely. And kinetic barrage is neat for killing ogryns fast.

[south zephyr]

imagine having friends that help you get the heresy penance chest 😭

[rapid cypress]

I did it raw dog :(

[ruby merlin]

@south zephyr I recommend watching J_sat if you're interested, the guy has 7k hours in vt2 and does damnation runs in darktide

[south zephyr]

oof

[deft heart]

finally got pick n mix

just need 13 more missions

[tall mesa]

I need to throw mobs off of a cliff

[south zephyr]

void staff viable at heresy+? been told by others that surge is the way to go otherwise gonna be pretty rough

[woven wigeon]

Nice!

I do hope that Heresy Hood gets colour variations later

[ruby merlin]

@south zephyr Basically it's how much you want to carry your team

[woven wigeon]

I really wanna wear it with the Malice chest

Love the red and gold motif

[ruby merlin]

Surge carries in damnation by stunning all the elites

void melts hordes

generally everyone else can melt hordes too, but only you can stun elites

[woven wigeon]

Ye I prefer Void in Heresy/Damnation just to cover that niche

[ruby merlin]

it pushing poxbombers back is really useful as well

[woven wigeon]

But Surge is cute too

[tall mesa]

While the vet stares at them without shooting

[ruby merlin]

Heresy is easy mode IMO compared to damnation

You can pug it with zero comms pretty easily

so yeah run whatever you want on heresy

[rapid cypress]

T4 feels easy when you upgrade your gear a liiil' and more people get a little bit more experience under their belt

[deft heart]

agreed, surge is useful for pushing and stun specials/ranged... hordes generally aren't a problem for everyone else

[ornate hamlet]

my current psyker

[ruby merlin]

@rapid cypress I could do it on my level 15 and the antax mkv combat axe

[crisp saddle]

Is it possible to reset your character?

[south zephyr]

for a surge build, not sure if I wanna go +2 WC stacks or 10% BB proc 🤔

[crisp saddle]

I don’t like my backstory

[ruby merlin]

you don't need gear for damnation even mostly, just play decently.

@south zephyr 10% bb proc every day

stacks are a trap, ignore them

basically you should never be considering stacks at any time, it's just a nice to have when it's up

[deft heart]

damnation good perks help a lot but psyker isnt very gear dependent

[south zephyr]

peril reduction per stack just a side bonus then?

[ruby merlin]

Yeah in fact, I hate that perk

because I want to have high peril

to gain toughness back

Building peril too slowly hurts in damnation

[south zephyr]

thought would be that less peril build up would equal more CC lightning

cant get hit if everything is doing the electric slide

[ruby merlin]

The thing is you mostly melee a lot, staff lightning the elites. And you'll have spots where you really want to push peril high asap for toughness to clutch.

You'll be meleeing a lot

because dodge is key

so getting peril to high, then switching to melee to fight helps a ton

perma staff play is more like when you're having fun farming heresy

[south zephyr]

in that case, if using a force sword sounds like 311133 would be the way to go?

[ruby merlin]

Mostly you can do 3 staff charges (not full one, low charges to stun).

@south zephyr I prefer the antax mk v combat axe, the dueling sword is really good too

[eager ridge]

Do the current shop cosmetics for psyker remove your characters hair out of curiosity

[ruby merlin]

force sword swings are meh

[south zephyr]

force sword cleave combo is light, heavy, block, repeat

[ruby merlin]

antax axe can mass cleave with brutal momentum

[south zephyr]

which isn't too bad actually

[ruby merlin]

It sucks compared to the axe

[south zephyr]

true

but force sword gets the special attack, which I like way more than the axes

[ruby merlin]

and the duelist sword has a really nice attack angle to headshot stuff

[sleek hornet]

the cliff hanger penance needs to be done all at once right, not individually? (kill 7 within 2 s of ledge knockoff)

[ruby merlin]

The special attack is kinda worthless on damnation, too slow

Antax can just light attack to do higher dps

[south zephyr]

does a lot of damage and animation locks specials though, so there's an argument to be made for it, but yeah I can see it being too slow for sure

[worn canopy]

: )

[south zephyr]

which one is the antax again? @ruby merlin

[gray kelp]

trying to get decent staves to just have the chance of rolling good perks and blessings is giving me depression

[tropic halo]

yeah I got a graveyard of sabers.

[sleek hornet]

think i enjoy surge over trauma

[worn canopy]

sabers aint worth it rn

[tropic halo]

to each their own. i enjoy using it and i havent found a force sword with deflector. i also do a lot of damage with my rapier and am less prone to being hit with it and being able to reposition much faster to use my staff.

[void anvil]

rapiers are really good for defense

[worn canopy]

i like cutlasses a lot

[void anvil]

still waiting for a force sword with deflector too 🥲

[worn canopy]

but infinite dodge force sword with amazing stagger capabilties and fast horde clear

even without deflector its too good

though i wish i could run it

but i need that stagger to get space from hordes and ragers and bursters and such

[celest oar]

I have deflector, but a shit secondary perk

[nimble gorge]

Yes

[south zephyr]

buy and save for later or leave it?

[nimble gorge]

Save for when crafting is a thing, maybe you can scrap it for resources

[worn canopy]

pretty good

cliffhanger was easy as hell

[tropic halo]

what can i say other than i'm actually content playing a psyker using the rapier and whenever i use the force sword i feel slow even with the unlimited dodging? it's nice hitting something five times before they hit the ground dead with the mk5.

[worn canopy]

spam push with force sword

[olive ember]

Anyone got any tips for pick n mix, the only achieve I need left besides the "beat all heresy missions" achieve

[worn canopy]

i use the push attack a lot to get space

[south zephyr]

how are you getting infinite dodges with force sword?

[nimble gorge]

…I wish I would have thought of that during beta

[worn canopy]

I also am a fan of the cutlass

but like, its not what i really need rn

[celest oar]

I want slaughter + deflector on my force sword

[south zephyr]

huh

tbf, everytime I've looked at that screen I've crashed

[tropic halo]

i wonder why the force sword gets unlimited dodges.

[worn canopy]

here is my cutlass

[worn canopy]

I have no clue but thats a reason why i run it over the cutlass

cutlass should have infinite

[celest oar]

Should I try bringing this to legendary and pray for deflector? https://i.imgur.com/0GpXh5W.png

[worn canopy]

too many points

[tropic halo]

yeah seems a little further onesided for the force sword that it gets unlimited dodge and a force special

[sleek hornet]

how do you get to that detailed item list?

[celest oar]

V

[worn canopy]

i would upgrade to get it into the 410-430s to ensure you deal hella damage on higher tiers

[sleek hornet]

this is what I get with V

[worn canopy]

Sadly yes, but i would use cutlass simply because dodge distance and makes me OP tank with my build

[celest oar]

this is what i am currently using https://i.imgur.com/eSj1Bhf.png

[sleek hornet]

Can i have detailed item info, we have detailed item info at home, info at home

[south zephyr]

didn't know deflector was a thing

I want it now...

[tawny nacelle]

am using this until i find something better 🙂

[tropic halo]

so what do you actually use because now you're confusing me.

[tawny nacelle]

nvm, i have something better just need tons of coooobes

[fresh reef]

+4% what? +4% WHAT????

[tropic halo]

... time to throw it in the trash, im sorry, friend.

[night mortar]

just use a combat blade instead, feels nicer 🙂

[celest oar]

i have a spare deflector sword but its all trash stats lolz https://i.imgur.com/0wkkh4z.png

[south zephyr]

how's 321133 sound for a surge/force sword build?

[south zephyr]

would be an upgrade to my current sword lol

been having decent luck with staff, but not swords

[celest oar]

I have shit tier luck with staffs xD

[olive ember]

"trash stats' hes says with a 330 base

[south zephyr]

still on the fence about peril reduction per stack vs damage based on % peril

[sleek hornet]

any idea why my V doesnt look the same for item info? is it cuz gamepass instead of steam or something?

[celest oar]

Lousy perks and spread of stats

[fresh reef]

why? it doesn't seem that bad

[tropic halo]

well the sword's fine but the reduce peril per weak hit attack seems counterproductive if you got the force weapon damage perk

[fresh reef]

actually it works well with my playstyle

[tropic halo]

whats your playstyle?

[silk finch]

whats a good level 15 perk

[fresh reef]

I run trauma staff so having a way to quell peril while killing trash without conflag explosion is convenient

apart from that, I only really pull it out for the push attack and occasional rager oneshot

[unique sapphire]

It is most likely just a different version. It could be a regional thing also

[sleek hornet]

Hmmm

[tropic halo]

hey, if it works for you, more power

i respect that you use trauma staff. dont really see people using it, and i can understand why. it defintiely needs a buff

[round charm]

whats a good secondary to bring?

[fresh reef]

staves

[shell radish]

just went back to psy after a bit, my head cosmetics is just like 5 empties

is this a bug for anyone else or what lol

[round charm]

is there a stave in particular that's good?

[south zephyr]

void/surge seem to be the most popular, with a niche build for Flame staff

occasionally you'll find someone who uses trauma

[vivid merlin]

I have a pretty well rolled flame staff but it feels like crap to use vs void

[round charm]

fireball op?

[tender cipher]

Fireball is balanced.

[bold maple]

we have fireball?

[round charm]

sorry, thats what ive been calling the void blast

a ranged "to whom it may concern"

[olive ember]

why run force weapon perk when you can run peril resistance

and even more rarely you will find... a gun psyker visual disgust

[bold maple]

*visible

[south zephyr]

tfw sodium levels skyrocket after a dog magnetizes to you after it goes flying past your dodge

[olive ember]

btw

is it some masochism thing

why are so many psykers running a combat axe

[teal needle]

Ax good

[olive ember]

like I legit hard tilted off the face of the earth while leveling with malice because we had a combat axe laspistol psyker who was doing literally fuck all

[fluid knot]

Psykers best little'uns

[teal needle]

Ax good, knife good, dueling sword goods, force sword good

[tawny nacelle]

box.

[dusty mirage]

because they dont trust the other classes to kill armored melee that rush them in quickplay

[olive ember]

force sword does the job beter

[iron flame]

Mk5 combat or tactical axe ? I remember some of you guys mentioning that mk5 have good push attack that cleaves a lot.

[dusty mirage]

that also requires having a force sword...

[olive ember]

you get one at like level 4

they are lvl 20s on malice

[fluid knot]

Thats our job, keep nasties offa psyker so he can pop their 'eads

[olive ember]

even if you are getting rushed by armored a force sword deals with them better than a combat axe