psyker-class

[candid hawk]

bolt gun is so overated its not even funny

[weak galleon]

k, look. there's a map, forgot hwo it's called. brb, gonna check youtube

[acoustic spade]

no but I used the melee stagger to get them all to the edge

[stray cipher]

The push is based off your current peril

[acoustic spade]

and then I used the push

[autumn lark]

You need a team for terminus

[acoustic spade]

I saw them go down the middle

[candid hawk]

80% of bolt gun users just let the scab ranged and corrupted gaurds shoot you all game.

[fair axle]

You can still shoot ranged chaff and murder elites and specialists.. It's really not that difficult.

[candid hawk]

hey hope your consistent with it and having 80 ammo lol

[weak galleon]

i'm fairly sure you can just get on this small bridge, pile them up and use ulti once for that ult. Then spam Push on your Force Sword.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis

it's just 7 mobs

we had to do it with 20.

that was harder.

and required a team, or luck.

[fair axle]

Yes, but I did say a good Vet did I not O.o.. What part of Good Vet is "I'll just ignore those mobs tearing my team apart because X reason" that's like saying Zealots that ignores melee and rushes from room to room without making sure they're clear are good

[autumn lark]

The force push on the sword only targets a single enemy

[frigid frigate]

The ult push

[wide quest]

Woah woah wtf people are still complaining about the cliffhanger penance??

[finite goblet]

thats why you use the scream.

[autumn lark]

Does the ult push really have more knockback based on peril

[weak galleon]

that is Push Attack , i'm talking about Push

[fair axle]

There are... SO much ammo lying around it is legit not an issue for a Vet.. I rarely see my Vet mate run into yellow... let alone orange on Boltgun.

[finite goblet]

yes

[acoustic spade]

I just pushed way more than 7 enemies into the center hole in the furnace map and didnt get it

[autumn lark]

Literally why isnt that explained in the game anywhere?

[frail spire]

how is toughness regen for psyker?

[weak galleon]

it's meh.

[fair axle]

Suuuuper

[weak galleon]

toughness on WCs is good, if you got WC farming talents.

[frail spire]

i havent looked into psyker too much, how do u get toughness on psyker?

[candid hawk]

All im saying is i have a lot of experience in both vet and psyker already leveling both to 30 and getting 470+ power level items on both and playing damnation on both. Psyker is clearly better to kill certain mobs in most situations. i also find bolt gun to be hugely overated due to the ammo and also its very unstable when you cant stance up and your getting shot at.

[weak galleon]

but if you are forced into melee, there's barely anything helping you with that except for, again, WC farming talents.

[wide quest]

There's a thing where it doesn't count if that enemy isn't pushed by the actual ability and instead got pushed by the enemy in front of em.

[weak galleon]

on gaining WC with two WC farming talents (most reliable one)

on Venting

and on killing stuff with warp attacks

[frail geyser]

Quelling peril talent until you get the wc talents then tough on wc gain

[acoustic spade]

really?

:<

most of those probably got pushed by the neemies infront of them

[frail spire]

what staff would u guys recommend for most purposes?

[fair axle]

There's also the thing where the force sword push will count if you use it on enemies knocked down by the ultimate🙂

[stoic pendant]

Voidstrike is great.

[weak galleon]

Voidstrike, Surge.

actually

most purposes - Voidstrike.

Surge is CC bot.

[frail spire]

not the fire one?

[weak galleon]

Trauma is hot garbage

doesn't exist

[stoic pendant]

Ya lol

[wide quest]

As long as the enemy got pushed by you and not by another enemy or someone else, it will count. :P

[fair axle]

Voidstrike/Purge

[steel vortex]

I wonder if I can recreate doctor coomer in darktide

[weak galleon]

you can also run Purge.
it's pretty multipurpose.

[fair axle]

Voidstrike if you care less about CC and more about raw damage..
Purge if you like CC and care less about raw damage

[weak galleon]

like, sits somewhere between Voidstrike/Surge rn.
medium CC with Light spam, nice anti-horde with charged.

[fair axle]

They're both exceptional staffs

[weak galleon]

keep in mind Purge staff Light attacks have much more stagger than it's charged fire stream.

[fair axle]

Surge if your team can't manage multiple disabling specials..

[stoic pendant]

I haven't found a good purge staff yet 😕

[weak galleon]

or berserkers. or maulers. elites, in general.

[frail geyser]

Most pugs cant handle multiple elites even

[fair axle]

Oh yes, light attack will stagger everything but Crushers, Mutants and Maulers.. T

[wide quest]

I usually bring voidstrike for quickplay, and surge for premade teams that have no trouble handling hordes.

[weak galleon]

when looking for staff, don't pay too much attention for Quell stat, apparently it has least impact for % gain in it. Other stats are almost always better.

[frail geyser]

If ur pugging surge can help teams with decent gear but cant dodge or block

[fair axle]

I always giggle when I see the other classes panic over the Ragers and Maulers in their face.. Then I run up with my force sword and push them down..

[weak galleon]

yeah, FSword is the safest in Psyker's kit for these purposes.

[frail geyser]

Ppl value void for hordes but most scrubs can swing at hordes, few know how to handle ragers or ogryns wothout dying it seems

[errant stream]

Mind Over Matter (2) stuck on 6/7 how can i fix this? i completed all the penances for Psyker except this and it is preventing me to get the final hood

[weak galleon]

too fucking bad Force Weapons, including sword, have such a slow Peril passive quell rate.

[fair axle]

That's why I bring Purgatus.. Staggers that shit in the fire stream so they can fling their weapons nilly willy..

[stoic pendant]

Better stagger than surge?

[wide quest]

There's still one more mission type that you haven't done on malice.

[frail geyser]

Surge ignores the stagger system

[errant stream]

i did everything, 3 times... i checked

[weak galleon]

lolno

[fair axle]

No surge is the ultimate CC.. It's a stun.

[weak galleon]

Surge is top tier Stagger psyker can have.

[frail geyser]

Literally changes their animation

[stoic pendant]

Ahhh gotcha thanks

[fair axle]

Purgatus has the best stagger a psyker has.
Voidstrike is the best damage a Psyker has

[weak galleon]

Purgatus can't stagger almost everything, Surge can.

[wide quest]

No clue then, I got it pretty much on the first day when espionage finally came back.

[weak galleon]

it still has good amount of stagger in it.

[steel vortex]

Dr coomer is a banned name?

[weak galleon]

you're still at it?!

😄

[stoic pendant]

Mmmmk. I gotta find a good purge staff and mess around with it.

[errant stream]

i even have the frame, the one you unlock when you play all the mission on Malice, it is stuck sadly i really didn't expect a bug like this

[fair axle]

but it's a different thing though.. Surge doesn't stagger, it outright stuns similar to a Stumm Nade. Stagger is when mobs take steps backwards 🙂

[weak galleon]

Top tier end-game experience.

[steel vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/bakamitai-dame-da-ne-gif-18169555

[weak galleon]

a breathtaking event each hour, don't miss it!

[teal needle]

Surge stuns muties too

[ember kiln]

Do you have any other characters?

[wide quest]

Hmm, possibly a bug then. First time I heard someone with this bug though.

[errant stream]

only a Zealot low level

[stoic pendant]

Thank you!

[fair axle]

Yeah, but by the time the muties are in range of surge... my vet mate has killed the mutie xD

[wide quest]

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-space-balls-gif-9201531

[fair axle]

So I stopped bringing surge and just get Purgatus

[arctic holly]

im just gonna say it kinetic flayer is a trap feat to make you waste a point

it's bad and you shouldn't use it over the other 2

[ember kiln]

Literally, best thing to do is write down each mission type, then go through all 7. Not sure how else to help you sorry bud

[steel vortex]

O- oh no

oh no

[arctic holly]

and since soul blaze is bad

[steel vortex]

so they block dr coomer

[weak galleon]

not sure whats going on here.

[fair axle]

OH

MY

HOLY EMPEROR

[ember kiln]

Big Beta

[fair axle]

I mean

.....

The perks and blessings

NOOO

[errant stream]

i did exactly this and i have the frame rewarded for completing all the missions in Malice too, i've sent a ticket to the support, i hope they will help me. thank you all anyway

[fair axle]

It updated 😦

rip purgatus staff

[wide quest]

Lmao

Oof

[fair axle]

F..

[bleak tulip]

the decision has been made for you

[fair axle]

It's fine it's just a minor upgrade in sliders.. so

but still f

[ember kiln]

Ah, I see. hopefully support will help you then man! best of luck brother

[shadow quail]

still no staves in store for me

[alpine sable]

Good staff for Heresy+?

[teal needle]

Staves aren't real. Like birds.

[wide quest]

After trying out the flamer on zealot, the purg staff's dmg feels

[shadow quail]

or force sword 👎

[fair axle]

Their flamer doesn't seem to stagger tho

[mellow pendant]

@teal needle Facts

[steel vortex]

oh no these are critical censorship oversights

[weak galleon]

Surge, Voidstrike, or even Purge.
it depends on your team, on map, on your build.

[fair axle]

I see Ogryn's Ragers run straight through it

[wide quest]

Really? It seems to stagger hordes and certain elites/specials for me.

[fair axle]

Hmm

[steel vortex]

uh. if anyone wants to see some of the things the censors missed (dont actually name your characters them I swear to god)

dm me.

[weak galleon]

did.

[ember kiln]

+3% what?..

[bleak sonnet]

3%.

[bleak tulip]

more percent more better

[mellow pendant]

You get 3%, I don't understand the confusion.

[ember kiln]

omg i am stupid, sorry guys

[wide quest]

+3% righteousness.

[mellow pendant]

You can get up to 15%. Obviously that's good.

[ember kiln]

True!

Gonna max upgrade it now. just batter everything in game. op weapon now, ty lads

[teal needle]

It you start at 100% then add 15% you're giving over 110%

[mild lotus]

Melk weapon roll of the day got me like

[teal needle]

Which will satisfy most coaches

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-fridge-empty-gif-15623425

[long wharf]

aaaand that's Warp Battery done

[ember kiln]

Grats dude

[subtle linden]

3%

[mild lotus]

congrats on finishing the 'easy' part of the penances

now go kill a boss solo

with only bb

[long wharf]

there's only one penance that I'm not at all going to try to do yet

[subtle linden]

that ones pretty easy

[long wharf]

and that's that one

[mild lotus]

yeah it is

[warm dagger]

worth 1200?

[steel vortex]

among... other things.

[subtle linden]

with daemonhost and a ogrynn friend its extremely easy

[mild lotus]

if you manage to convince a group of 3 to literally not play and do stupid things

[steel vortex]

apparently margaret thatcher is a legal character name.

[candid hawk]

no, you wantt higher power. I have blues with almost as much

[warm dagger]

alrighty ty

[mild lotus]

damage is really bad on this one

wait another roll

[warm dagger]

yea, the perks just looks nice as hell

very sad : (

[mild lotus]

wait

buy

it

[warm dagger]

huh?

[weak galleon]

No way, damage roll is meh.

[mild lotus]

you can transfer blessings if I'm not mistaken when crafting is done

[warm dagger]

ohh

[mild lotus]

not sure though

[tiny berry]

anyone wanna help me get Malleus Monstronum penance

[long wharf]

should I buy this?

[steel vortex]

I am stress testing the censorship system

[weak galleon]

wdym by "transfer?"

[mild lotus]

if you want to keep it safe, wait for a roll in regular shop

[mild lotus]

whatever Fatshark means

[weak galleon]

okay...

[celest oar]

my shop for today.... https://i.imgur.com/EUZi2r5.jpeg

[mild lotus]

It's not yet implemented, how would I know

[celest oar]

facepalm

[steel vortex]

Oh no its doing dark souls grade censorship

[fathom zealot]

lmao you cant do cass either, since it contains ass

thats a good one

[vivid merlin]

What's everyone's favourite maccabian mk

[steel vortex]

Apparently stalin and putin are allowed through

[subtle linden]

im more of an atrox axe enjoyer

[mild lotus]

why wouldn't they?

[vivid merlin]

After knife bleed perk got nerfed I haven't found my new melee

[steel vortex]

For stalin, uh, planned famine, mass killing

[vivid merlin]

Seems in line with the Imperium

[mild lotus]

alright then make Barrack Obama a forbidden name

[weak galleon]

well, nazis are censored, so there's that.

[mild lotus]

same goes fo Xi Jinping

[fathom zealot]

I use achlys Mk V3 combat axe, 189 light attack, one taps all grunt units

I only ever use melee to bop one small unit behind my wall of fire, so having a one tapper is very nice

[steel vortex]

The H man is censored

[mild lotus]

it's all about perceived remembrance when it comes to name censorship, not deeds

[wide quest]

I used the mk iv a lot but recently fell in love with the mk v for its charge attack.

[steel vortex]

I mean to be Fair I dont want seventeen guys running around with the name of a certain austrian art school dropout on the ship

but come on

coomer is banned

[vivid merlin]

the mk v currently has my heart because of the speed and defensiveness plus that juicy top down whack on heavy

[warm spindle]

alright

Yall

[mild lotus]

I don't mind, it's not like it will reignite nazism

[warm spindle]

What do you think is the best build for melee psyker

[steel vortex]

but theres some things which definitely should be banned names which aren't

[tropic halo]

I used to use the IV for the speed but the mark V does too much damage to ignore. It's definitely seeming like the best one out of the bunch.

[steel vortex]

in terms of character names

[mild lotus]

I have a cousin named racism

[weak galleon]

which level is your psyker?

[mild lotus]

should he be prevented from playing darktide?

[fathom zealot]

dont go melee psyker, you're not be a full potential if you only focus melee

[vivid merlin]

imo you should take your extensive discussion on the merits of censorship to pm with each other so you can really get into it

[wide quest]

30 of course.

[stray cipher]

Is there a reason the MKV heavies do so much damage? It hits Manics for like 1k

[steel vortex]

ok im going to shut up before the admins publicly execute me for stress testing their censorship system

[vivid merlin]

nonzero chance it's bugged

I think it's only happening on certain stat/perks

[weak galleon]

Kinetic Deflection.
Only use push attacks on horde, don't worry about Stamina going to 0, you don't care.
thank me later.

Mk5 Axe is one of top tier weapons on psyker.

because of that.

[fathom zealot]

yeah kinda weird how 0 stamina push's are a thing, you can just infinitely push and attack

[mild lotus]

finished my contracts

even the 12 grims and 25 scriptures one

[weak galleon]

most people are still unfamiliar with it because it's inner working with Kinetic Deflection is not something obvious right away.

[fathom zealot]

Is it the mk5 antax combat axe

[weak galleon]

yes.

I'd say it easily tops Duelist Blades, which are themselves very good on Psyker.

[stray cipher]

Like one of these?

[warm spindle]

Well ofc, but that sussy 18% damage goes both ways

[fathom zealot]

god damn thats a lotta damage

[mild lotus]

that's a great looking axe

[dim pier]

I want, gib.

[weak galleon]

Good one. Not sure if worth the coins, as perks might need a replacement, but good one.

[mild lotus]

too bad I dislike axes on psyker

the force sword is just too cool to me

[vivid merlin]

I find it hard to use anything without a mobility stat

[weak galleon]

this is not an Axe in Vermintide's 2 sense of being an axe. It's far superior due to existance of KDeflection.
but yeah, FSword has it's charm

[fathom zealot]

Well as a psyker you are mostly going to be using your staff so you can really use whatever melee you prefer, I dont think it matters that much. Just done use a knife

but there are obviously meta picks

[mild lotus]

the knife siblings are about to brain burst you

[vivid merlin]

idk even postnerf knife is hella fun

[mild lotus]

delete

[weak galleon]

On Tier 4+ ?
ehh... not sure.
Knife is top tier as well even after nerfs, afaik.

[fathom zealot]

actually I guess knife on psyker is good since psyker doesn't really melee stuff, didn't think about that

[unkempt juniper]

the duelling swords are basically better versions of the knife tho

[fathom zealot]

dont need to rely on it for CC so might aswell have an easy dash away knife, or any mobility waepon

[weak galleon]

"doesn't really melee stuff" on T4-5?
That requires pretty good team to support you.

not solo quickplay for sure.

[mild lotus]

melee is always useful

the game was built that way

[unkempt juniper]

the game is primarily a melee game

at least the core mechanics are all geared towards melee

[weak galleon]

Zealot chat is that way <
😄

[icy harbor]

Anyone reached 500 power for a staff yet?

[dim pier]

I think I have a potential 500?

[weak galleon]

but on serious note, it's alot more ranged than VT2 was.

[unkempt juniper]

i love my duelling sword too much to play zealot

mkiv duelling sword my beloved

[fathom zealot]

Depends on group comp, I was in a tier 5 with 2 psykers, marksman, zealot. I had surge staff, other had purge, marksman had bolter, zealot had a lasgun I think. The other psyker and I just sat there ending any hoard instantly, and bolter killed elites and specials, same with zealot

[mild lotus]

thx to the wh40k setting

doing a 40k game without guns would have been odd

[weak galleon]

I had surge staff
Yes, it's one of those cases. you are just a CC bot then, with Vet and Zealot taking frontline

[fathom zealot]

Idk if its just me but I use my staff 90% of the time

[unkempt juniper]

in the same note, making a 40k game without melee would have been equally odd

or where melee was just a footnote

[mild lotus]

I tested voidstrike for a few mission this evening, it's really strong

[fathom zealot]

I mean what else are you gonna do as a psyker, surge or purge, void is fun but not for me

[mild lotus]

wh40k: spacemarine

mostly pew pew

[unkempt juniper]

i didn't play space marine but wasn't melee fairly important there too?

[weak galleon]

on high level horde density void is very fun for me.
but yeah, premades or very competent teams is one thing.

[mild lotus]

didn't seem to me

there's melee of course especially when using rage but shooting things is what you do most

depends on the difficulty too

[unkempt juniper]

well, you do play as an ultramarine. if they make a game as a space wolf or blood angel you bet there will be tons of melee

[weak galleon]

which difficulty?
it also depends on what kind of melee you are running

Malice and lower you can do whatever.

Tier 4-5 - depends on team.

[mild lotus]

that's what I meant

but we're talking about wh40k: spacemarine here

[fathom zealot]

I have a problem though, I can't decide on what staff to main. The purge is the best at taking down any sized hoard, everything dies from it.

The surge staff is amazing at stunning any unit so you can stun dogs, chargers, ogryns, everything, but it has way less CC then purge.

And the void strike one has no where near the CC or purge but has more then surge but it can't stun like surge, nor reach around cover like surge so i'd rather use surge

[unkempt juniper]

ideally space marine 2 will be as melee focused as darktide is

i think darktide got that aspect of the game right

[mild lotus]

voidstrike is great for both long range dmg and close range dmg+cc tbh

[unkempt juniper]

the balance between ranged and melee

[mild lotus]

just shoot at the ground

[fathom zealot]

yeah but surge auto lock is so easy to use

I love looking at ranged units and making them basically disabled

[unkempt juniper]

voidstrike is objectively the best staff in the game. Anyone who disagrees with this fact is simply wrong.

[mild lotus]

and does dmg akin to pissing on the enemies

[night marten]

finished the malice drip, they did such a good job

[unkempt juniper]

ah yes the santa psyker

christmas drip

[fathom zealot]

yeah but 2 pops of it and they're dead or 3, and I can spam the shit out of it

its just a giant long range stun zapper

[mild lotus]

"long range"

[queen lava]

father christmas?

[fathom zealot]

being able to stun chargers and dogs is huge for me

[unkempt juniper]

voidstrike cancels dog charges

[fathom zealot]

I mean not like 100 meters but usually enough to get medium range

[unkempt juniper]

admittedly not mutants, thats surge's only advantage over void

[fathom zealot]

yeah but its a projectile, and sometimes the dogs bug out

[unkempt juniper]

that and the non line of sight part

[night marten]

ho ho ho

[unkempt juniper]

it's a very big projectile hitbox, it can hit enemies behind corners and cover

try it

[sick fulcrum]

why doesn't the armor look like the one shown in the picture

[fathom zealot]

It'd be easier if dogs weren't so terribly done, running around like crazy back and forth

[fathom zealot]

damn you're right, that sucks

[unkempt juniper]

dogs must be tzeenchian instead of nurglite, they can teleport at will it seems

[stoic pendant]

I think it is bugged

Someone said the shirt is clipping through the armor or something

[sick fulcrum]

hope your right i think the one in the picture is cooler

[queen lava]

the only one I like is the vet, the rest all the grew squares are too bright, honestly I am still kinda miffed they had the grey patches but even if they'd been as dark as in the photo I'd probably use it sometimes

[stoic pendant]

@sick fulcrum same

[fathom zealot]

Also I stand by my opinion of SURGE AND PURGE being the best synergy. It is so good

[unkempt juniper]

voidstrike can do both at the same time tho

[fathom zealot]

having 2 psykers means more ammo for bolter aswell, surge and purge on tier 5 made it a lot less stressful

[night marten]

why not all three

[fathom zealot]

I mean yeah

[sick fulcrum]

i like surge but doesn't do much damage but helps the team a lot

[night marten]

just bring an ogryn

[fathom zealot]

3 psykers, one ogryn

the wall, and all the cc

ogryn wall is great

[mild lotus]

good luck to kill those 2 bosses

[shadow quail]

why we have the amazing BB dps

[unkempt juniper]

or, oooor, and follow me here,
4 psykers, one with deflector

[sick fulcrum]

head burst does a good amount

[mild lotus]

buzzing buzzing buzzing

[fathom zealot]

4 psykers, 2 purge, one surge, one void

[mild lotus]

not in diff 4 and higher

[sick fulcrum]

true

[mild lotus]

why not 1 trauma?

[sick fulcrum]

i think 2 pskyers 1 vet and 1 ogryn is the ultimate team

[left mirage]

tbh even at lower diffs id unga bunga force sword charge / chainsword rev shit

because it does more dmg then BB and comes out faster

[fathom zealot]

I would rather have 2 purges since the flame hits multiple enemies, and with two the hoard would almost instantly die

[stoic pendant]

I BB them because I am lazy.

[reef sparrow]

Flayer or Overload?

[fathom zealot]

what is trauma even useful for, I couldn't find a definitive playstyle for it

[mild lotus]

aoe

[left mirage]

discarding to get money

[shadow quail]

hating yourself

[fathom zealot]

the aoe is expensive in peril though for the dmg output, but I mean yeah its technically aoe

[fathom zealot]

zethe is right

and beetard

[mild lotus]

its cc capability is definitely the best in term of amount of mobs controlled at once

[left mirage]

if the ring grew faster id agree

[fathom zealot]

but purge

[left mirage]

you just use surge instead

[fathom zealot]

yeah if the ring was bigger and faster

[mild lotus]

purge is max 8 mobs

[left mirage]

if you want cc

[mild lotus]

trauma is in theory infinite

[meager glen]

is it just me or does the flame staff kinda suck

[solid lake]

You can insta spam the charged attack to keep CCing one dude like the ogryn slap (With trauma)

[shadow quail]

or just surge

[fathom zealot]

didn't know that, felt infinite

[stoic pendant]

Surge is better at that methinks

[night fox]

bro, playing with another psyker, that literally only uses BB is so fuking boring. How do ppl get to 30 playing like that?

getting carried the entire game?

[shadow quail]

people use BB?

[wide quest]

Yes.

[queen lava]

closed beta brain burst was the only weapon you needed, I miss it

[mild lotus]

surge: localised and "single" target CC
purge: aoe dmg
void: localised and "single" target dmg
trauma: aoe CC

it's that shrimple

[stoic pendant]

I BB monstrosities

[night fox]

bruh, idk what is going on today, every T4 ive played with like 3-4 exceptions, is psykers with BB hands out all mission. trash mob and everything in between

[manic birch]

Emperor... Plz stop giving me lazguns

[proud sierra]

Are ragers elite enemys?

for the penance?

[wide quest]

They are.

[mild lotus]

they're specialists

[queen lava]

feels bad

[wide quest]

Right?

[solid lake]

I think with the toughness bug, all the Vets are playing psyker today

[night fox]

ohhh damn, yeah youre right

[mild lotus]

what bug?

[night fox]

fuk

[proud sierra]

wait arent they elites?

[median meteor]

toughness isn't blocking chip damage

[shadow quail]

They are getting wrecked from some toughness bug

[solid lake]

If you have more than 100 toughness, you take 100% bleed or something like that

[night fox]

only over 100

[wide quest]

I thought specials are the one that spawns with sound queues.

[mild lotus]

lol it's not a bug

[proud sierra]

https://gameslantern.com/article/darktide-enemy-hp-guide-for-breakpoints

Shows them as elites

[night fox]

new feature???

[mild lotus]

look up the patch note

[night fox]

lul

[mild lotus]

I even linked it here

[night fox]

i was in game

[wide quest]

No no, vet is literally bugged.

You take full damage if you have more than 100 toughness.

[night fox]

how can it be a feature when the vet gets ripped by it

[mild lotus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1047575900310470826/image.png

[wide quest]

Or well, anyone can tbh.

But vet by default has more than 100 toughness.

[night fox]

youve always taking chip dmg through thoughness, but now if you have over 100 you take full dmg staight to hp

[left mirage]

how tf do you use purge

[median meteor]

issue is that 100 toughness doesn't stop you taking chip

[shadow quail]

yeah it's bugged

[median meteor]

it's bugged

[mild lotus]

ah you meant that

[night fox]

yeah, thats bugged

they put 100 in the code instead of 100%

so anything over 100 it goes straight to your HP

[wide quest]

It's a flame thrower sort of staff, best used on hordes, can stagger certain elites and specials.

[wild token]

why cant they just add the %? ezy fix

[mild lotus]

damned, I run trinkets for +20% toughness

well, it's all in a single trinket actually

and with +4% hp

[night fox]

spaghetti code prolly

[shadow quail]

Had to get cash shop running

priorities

[night fox]

^

[mild lotus]

stats are good, blessing is meh

[unkempt juniper]

yeah

[mild lotus]

slaughterer is probably the best blessing offensively

[subtle linden]

its for the future crafting bench

[mild lotus]

ez free 13% dmg stackable up to 5 times on each kill

[wild token]

how long do you think it will take them to add the rest of the crafting stuff?

[subtle linden]

okay but what is the difference between damage and power

[mild lotus]

I give them 2 weeks

[shadow quail]

After the second wave of cash shop cosmetics

[unkempt juniper]

they said throughout december

[mild lotus]

after which I start brain bursting actionaires

[solid lake]

If its the same as VT, power included extra cleave and stagger rather than just damage

[mild lotus]

if we don't have crafting up by 15th of December, I start triggering daemonhosts in FS building intentionally

and then I dc

[wide quest]

[worn canopy]

Psyker moment

[south monolith]

Darktide dosen't use the same power level system that VT2 used. Power level limits the stat pool for items.

[left mirage]

yeah, i figured out how to use it

its cool

sucks that the primary fire isnt ranged though

[mild lotus]

8 minutes before shop reroll

[warm meteor]

so is it possible if no one looks at a daemonhost to safely bypass it?

[wide quest]

The primary fire is good if you want to stagger something quickly.

[left mirage]

you kinda need a force sword with blocker so you dont get shredded by ranged

if i really need the stagger i just press F or swap to melee

[mild lotus]

looking is fine

[left mirage]

just move fast

[mild lotus]

if you get too close though...

[strong spade]

Don’t use flashlights either

[wide quest]

I wouldn't really bring purg into quickplay since you have to rely on your teammate to take care of the riflemen.

[warm meteor]

how is one triggered? ive only fought 2 so far and i wasnt the one who made it angry

[left mirage]

ye

[mild lotus]

getting close or hitting it

[left mirage]

its triggered by attacking / staying too close

it'll slowly get up if you stay too close

so tag it, run the fuck away

[wide quest]

Basically a witch from l4d2.

[weak galleon]

Yes.

[mild lotus]

except you can't crown it

[left mirage]

except it shreds your team on higher diffs

[warm meteor]

on another note, not a big things but i tried malice today with psyker and was able to get thru it! im not very good yet so it was a good milestone

[mild lotus]

lvl?

[warm meteor]

17

[mild lotus]

that's cool

[weak galleon]

I did.
First, at closer distances, you can just cut distance by CCing them with light spam.
At longer distances... you have to use bb either way

[warm meteor]

i died once, which was due to corruption taking all my wounds away! we had two grims and i carried one

now i got an extra wound curio tho

[mild lotus]

my extra wound curio gives 12% corruption resist as well

[warm meteor]

i havent found a corruption resist one yet, and im scared to upgrade my curios at hadrons shop in case it gives me a dread toughness boost

i hope they fix that soon

[mild lotus]

toughness boost is better than hp for psyker

[strong spade]

Not while it’s bugged

[warm meteor]

but the bug makes me sad

[mild lotus]

buzzing

[wide quest]

Malice quickly I'd be fine, heresy quick play, it's a problem when your vet isn't getting those ranged enemies or the team doesn't have any ranged weapon. I feel more comfortable with voidstrike since it can deal with hordes just fine and also the ranged enemies if needed.

[warm meteor]

i guess its just like having old toughness, but atm id rather more wounds then tough

[mild lotus]

3 minutes before new shop roll

[warm meteor]

or corruption resist

[strong spade]

Nurgle infected Tertium with an insectoid plague that makes you take big damage while over 100 Toughness.

[young frigate]

ik trauma is the worse staff but how good is this?

[mild lotus]

more like Tzeentch warped the code into a bloody mess

[strong spade]

That’s just Imperium tech on a normal day

[wide quest]

You do know that the corruption resist on curios only works on the corruption you get from grims, right?

[mild lotus]

stats are good, perks are meh and so are blessings

[teal needle]

Sibling regular staff primary is fine in firefights there's no spread. And void staff pops heads if you shoot it over cover

[mild lotus]

there are two types of resist actually

[young frigate]

wish i would get a flamer staff with this rating

[mild lotus]

I have the regular one which doesn't help against grims

[wide quest]

Wait tf there are??

[reef sparrow]

Neither of the modifiers actually help the staff.

[mild lotus]

yes

[wide quest]

I've only been seeing the grim ones every single time.

[mild lotus]

one is regular, the other is grims only

[strong spade]

General corruption resist helps vs anything except Grims

[young frigate]

i dont mind that too much, can change later when they decide to add the rest of craftin

[strong spade]

Grims one is only for Grims

[mild lotus]

dogs

[warm meteor]

thats what i want, since it resulted in my death lol

[manic birch]

so what do people get for feat 25 n 30?

[warm meteor]

unless grims arent a common secondary?

[mild lotus]

3 and 3

new shop roll siblings

[warm meteor]

does 3 mean the bottom or the top

[brazen magnet]

1 and 1

XD

[wide quest]

The bottom

[manic birch]

hmm 📝

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-fridge-empty-gif-15623425

[warm meteor]

wait so BB buff is good?

[brazen magnet]

but Im all about the voidstrike spam and 4% warpchance onkill for the team

[warm meteor]

or is it cuz it doesnt consume stacks

[mild lotus]

it's the better of the tree imo

but all the 3 are meh

[reef sparrow]

The perks also are pretty trash. It's a Trauma staff, so it depends on your playstyle. You get to clear trash in a single hit, but if you already have trash clearers on your team, you lose out on a lot.

[brazen magnet]

just keep blasting forever with the 4-5% reduce peril on weakspot on staff

[reef sparrow]

So, pretty much 50% of the time you are playing with randos, you are useless

[brazen magnet]

and every 5-10 sec your skill is back up

[vivid merlin]

isn't +maxhp the better corruption resistance

[warm meteor]

maybe

i have max hp buffs

[hushed cedar]

What is this toughness bug I keep seeing?

[warm meteor]

idk if corruption is percentage of your health or not tho

[mild lotus]

depends

[wide quest]

It makes bb more bearable on heresy+

[reef sparrow]

Corruption is a %

[young frigate]

wish i could get a good voidstrike in store

only keep gettin flamer staffs

[vivid merlin]

Corruption is either absolute or scales in some way with max hp

[mild lotus]

wish I could get a good store

[reef sparrow]

It's why Ogryns don't care about 2 grims. Their HP goes down to 100hp instead of 20

[warm meteor]

basiucally at 100 tough if you get hit you take zero bleed thru damage. but above 100 tough you take damage thru your toughness

[young frigate]

mood

[fresh reef]

darktide has to have the worst servers I've played on in a long time

[brazen magnet]

Had a great one with the -peril on weak spot hits and bumped it to mastercraft 487

so im happy enough

now all I need is a forcesword with the deflection blessing

[mild lotus]

never seen that

[hushed cedar]

Thank you, I didn't know that. I should unequip my orange curio that gives me +15% toughness then?

[brazen magnet]

yes

it just fucks you with the bug

[fresh reef]

it's been near constant for me, and I know for certain it's an issue with DT

[spark forum]

anyone have a solid explanation of what the warp flurry blessing does for surge staff

[stoic pendant]

Ya I took mine off

[brazen magnet]

except veterans are fucked cause they start over a 100

[night fox]

kk, so this is the crit burn stick? LUL

[young frigate]

dont see any problems in there

[warm meteor]

some classes have considered more tough still worth even with the bug. but im not an expert i play on diff 2

[mild lotus]

stats are alright on this one

[vivid merlin]

give em the Cadia special

[warm meteor]

i think vet likes tough since they always have more then 100

[vivid merlin]

the Cadia special is they explode worthlessly

[timid cedar]

Anyone know if Warp Battery is still bugged?

[night fox]

oh kk, now that i got your aproval, ill give one fuck about it

[brazen magnet]

we play mostly on heresy and its just crippling for my friends who play veteran atm ;/

[wide quest]

Not with the bug though, vets are suffering hard.

[mild lotus]

gratifying

[warm meteor]

but they are effected regardless of whether they take more toughness curios right? so might as well just stack it anyway since it still reduces the damage you would take?

[bleak sonnet]

no

[brazen magnet]

as long as tough is over 100, you take 100% dmg from melee

[wide quest]

They take 100% dmg to their health regardless.

[brazen magnet]

so stacking even more is bad

[wide quest]

No point in building more if it's useless.

[brazen magnet]

it even makes it worse cause you stay above 100 longer

[wide quest]

Yep.

[tawny nacelle]

more toughness = more damage through it

[mild lotus]

my psykinetic ass running this 24/7

[warm meteor]

oh i see, i thought the bug just made your toughness act like it was in beta, but it actually causes you to take all the damage instead

[silk magnet]

What level do the different staves unlock at?

I want my flamethrower ;_;

[mild lotus]

yes

[warm meteor]

level 15 for your flamethrower

its the last staff you unlock

sorry

[young frigate]

flame is 15 but gl gettin the staff u want to show up in the store

[silk magnet]

Sweet, thanks. 5 levels away.

So close but so far

[warm meteor]

i got one the minute i unlocked it!

[mild lotus]

5 levels AND a decent roll in the shop

[stoic pendant]

https://thenerdstash.com/all-warhammer-40k-darktide-weapon-unlock-levels/

[warm meteor]

only like 230 rating tho

[regal raft]

Only difficulty 2

Just fucking with you, people should play whatever they enjoy the most.

[remote crown]

voidstrike lets go 😄

[raw swift]

which do i get

[warm meteor]

ive played one game of malice!

[mild lotus]

lvl?

[weak galleon]

I was talking about Purgatus.

[regal raft]

Both are terrible

[raw swift]

18

[mild lotus]

blue is better tho

[raw swift]

Ok

[regal raft]

Stick with blue for now

[raw swift]

yeah sorry im not level 30 yet

[mild lotus]

but don't get attached to it

[weak galleon]

Laspistol. Or Rifle.
Until you get either Surge/Purgatus/Voidstrike.

Pretend Trauma staff doesn't exist.

[mild lotus]

you'll drop it by lvl 30

[warm meteor]

my highest diff in vermintide was like level 4, but the difficulty was stressful and required my full attention and skill. made runs feel quite harrowing and i wasnt able to do it with every class

[steel vortex]

Darktide lobbies feel dull

[regal raft]

You’re fine, it’s not like you should be persecuted for having bad luck with gambling mechanics

[raw swift]

yeah

[steel vortex]

Also, are servers regionlocked? I havent seen anyone with foreign names or anything

[raw swift]

I just did my first three difficuklty

[young frigate]

oh wait

[wide quest]

You can manually get into parties with people across the globe, but automatically you get paired up with people from your region.

[weak galleon]

Good question.
May explain why I struggle to get t4 quickplay teams this deep in the night (3am rn)

[mild lotus]

veteran weaponry hissss

[steel vortex]

huh

[regal raft]

Completely fair, I don’t feel any difficulty or engagement to find enjoyment unless I’m on 4 or higher. But that’s because of my playing looter shooter games do all kinds for years

Everyone finds more fun at different tiers

[karmic ivy]

Their region locked yeah

[tall mesa]

mmmmh : 3

[regal raft]

Screams in foreign language angrily

[wide quest]

I'm in Australia and the people I play with are all the way in EU.

[hushed cedar]

Alright guys, let's show off some gear!

[mild lotus]

France detected

[tall mesa]

haha sorry

[weak galleon]

this is a solid Surge.

[tall mesa]

it says cannot be interupted And Crit scales on peril

[weak galleon]

and a solid FSword base. Meh blessings, will need to be recrafted..

[mild lotus]

Je sais

nous sachons

[tall mesa]

oh my the precognition thing is insane

you could focus melee build even

[hushed cedar]

Yeah I plan on rerolling the perks once we get that feature in a year or so

[raw swift]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-psyker-head-pop-gif-26182587

[weak galleon]

😄

[queen lava]

I've mostly gotten australians

[mild lotus]

4% is really not great

[tall mesa]

i got a question guys. is there a way to still os elites in 4/5+ with like some sort of elite dmg stacking ?

with brainburst i mean

[mild lotus]

nope

[tall mesa]

phuk

[mild lotus]

bb dmg doesn't scale on anything except charges

and they don't help

[tall mesa]

damn it

[weak galleon]

join us in our suffering, sibling.

[tall mesa]

i do i do xD

[wide quest]

Oh I mean when I match up manually by joining their party but yeah, you'll get matched with other people from or near your region by default.

[spark forum]

i feel like the lvl 30 that makes bb faster seems strong on paper though for 4-5s cuz u can spam it and take out a couple heavies. stack that with the soulblaze talent on elite bb kill

[queen lava]

ah, yeah I don't meet many europeans

[tall mesa]

i picked the CDR version

it's reliable at least

i can power fart more often and i need it

[hushed cedar]

I run that perk just for the fact it doesn't consume my warp charges. Plus it's nice to open up on a boss and have a big chunk of health missing before it gets into melee range of the rest of the party.

[mild lotus]

It's also the only way to achieve the pick n mix penance

[spark forum]

do you pair it with wrack and ruin?

[tall mesa]

don't you prefer to force sword your way through bosses ?

[stoic pendant]

I hide and BB lol

[tall mesa]

hehehehe

[mild lotus]

FSword special technically is a better option to hit a boss as it generates less peril

[hushed cedar]

Of course, force sword is clutch against bosses. But free damage without having to worry about dodging is free damage. Plus the %15 damage from the peril I generated make my sword hit like a truck

[mild lotus]

the drawback being it's melee only

[tall mesa]

it hits like a truck

[silk magnet]

You only need like 8% available peril to use BB again tho

[spark forum]

but if ur swording boss ur not purging or zapping elites charging next to it

[weak galleon]

2 stacks is nothing on higher difficulties.

[weak galleon]

3-4%. I.e., safe at 96% or so.

[silk magnet]

Cast BB until you get to 100%, let it drop down to 92% and cast BB again, ad infinitum

[spark forum]

yeah, just not sure if the stagger from the application on gunners is worth

[median meteor]

always

[regal raft]

Alright

I’ve made it my mission

[median meteor]

even with a subpar sword I do about 40% health damage to a boss with about 80 peril

[regal raft]

To make the worst cosmetic set possible

I’ll be back

[tall mesa]

waiting for it

[mild lotus]

inb4 beta helmet

[regal raft]

To bleed all your eyes and scar your brains

[silk magnet]

Just grab the set from the paid shop, that entire thing looks terrible lol

[wide quest]

The toilet bowl space helmet is a start.

[median meteor]

my brain is already scarred by the voices

[wide quest]

I have it on

:3

[tall mesa]

@median meteor same even if i have like 3 degenerate snipers in the back i ll go melee alone.

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26307682

[regal raft]

Literally was the first part

[wide quest]

Tbh that set looks great if your psyker looks like a typical mad scientist old man.

[candid hawk]

I need to farm some materials sheesh

[silk magnet]

[wide quest]

Trust me bro

[tall mesa]

@median meteor i mean the thing is bosses are a lot more dangerous if they have no one to hit. their gun is straight out to be avoided at all cost.

[weak galleon]

that's what 2 stacks do on T4 Psykhanium.

[mild lotus]

I hope next week's sets deliver more than this week's

[weak galleon]

right before they ended.

[mild lotus]

else the shop will be a terrible things for us

[stoic pendant]

Oof

[burnt tapir]

Trauma doesn't really feel like it has quite enough AoE or damage

[mild lotus]

trauma stands for what it gives to its user

[median meteor]

lmao

[stoic pendant]

I want a cool visor.

[median meteor]

true tho

trauma is just a bad voidstrike

[wide quest]

I want trauma staff to cause actual trauma to the enemy, not just break their ankles for a few seconds.

[steep frost]

what's the best t1 feat for leveling? I'm not sure which will give the most value

[wide quest]

[mild lotus]

the first one

[hushed cedar]

I think Wrack and Ruin is a trap perk pick. 2 stacks of soul blaze is something like 6 damage per second. Psykinetic's Wrath is what I run all the time, since I always have at least some peril, it gives me a consistent damage boost on all my weapons, and doesn't require me to target specials to get it going.

[mild lotus]

is an easy go to

[median meteor]

do I play a few t1 missions before I sleep or do I not?
hmmmmmm

what do the voices say

[burnt tapir]

Wrack is absolutely a trap pick, even for a flame build

[near chasm]

First one if you like brain burst a lot, second one if you spam staves

[mild lotus]

trigger the daemonhost

[wide quest]

The range on it feels like shit tbh.

[tall mesa]

tranquility is always good

[lethal mural]

i recommend starting from a gray weapon and upgrading from there up to orange. you get much better stats that way.

[regal raft]

God damnit!!! I don’t have the bright yellow prison top, I would do that with the leopard stripe green tier 3 pants that look like you’re wearing spandex exercise leggings with armored boots and knee pads and the toilet bowl on top

That’s the actual perfect shitmog and I can’t do it

[fierce girder]

It needs to be on every pop, with the current damage imo

[median meteor]

speaking of daemonhost, I've heard rumours that if you brainburst it while it's spawning you get it down to 25%, can you (or anyone else) confirm?

[fierce hazel]

I would say the first skill is great if your passively gaining stacks

[gloomy obsidian]

Purge staff feels REALLY Good now

[candid hawk]

yeah but this is good for now till a good grey drops

[wide quest]

I think I can do that

[mild lotus]

that's bait

[fierce girder]

With a full team of 4 psykers, you can kill a daemonhost pretty quick

[left mirage]

is there an option to block other players

[fierce girder]

But God help the one it aggros on

[candid hawk]

plus i have a feeling once crafting comes out greys arent gonna be the best anymore

[mild lotus]

the stats don't improve when you up a weapon tho

[tall mesa]

@hazy wagon eh i don't know yet. i tried one and the warp resist was too low so it made the spamming shorter.

[median meteor]

.if you can get a 350+ gray weapon it's worth leveling it though

[mild lotus]

only the perks and blessings get rolled randomly

[median meteor]

anything else it's not worth it

[pallid smelt]

wtf does Warp NExus do?

[left mirage]

i got pub matched with the same level 6 psyker on malice and he folded like wet paper

[hazy wagon]

?

[near chasm]

True if you have access to those feats then that one is better

[steep frost]

Are trauma force staffs worth picking up at lower levels?

[tall mesa]

sorry wrong nick

[median meteor]

any staff is worth grabbing at low levels because you need to start thinking about how you manage peril properly asap

[fierce hazel]

Love me % regen. Can't wait till the toughness bug is gone so I can stack it

[sleek hornet]

is there anotherway to get a force staff other than armory exchange?

i havent seen one in hours

[tall mesa]

i don't know i feel like this staff requires a good war resist to really shine.

[left mirage]

pray

[mild lotus]

What do you mean sibling, good rolls in the shop? Have you come unhinged?

[regal raft]

Do it, big white toilet bowl helmet,

Tiny torso with obnoxious bright color that’s mismatched, and no setting collar so the helmet is floating

Then the leopard stripe green tier 3 psyker pants, that look like you’re wearing 70s spandex exercise leggings with knee pads and big ass boots to make the torso look even smaller

[polar fractal]

gift from the emperor

[sleek hornet]

As it should be then, All hail the God Emperor.

[hushed cedar]

Every grey I see in the shop is ~330 power level. Haven't seen a grey roll above like 336

[stoic pendant]

I get all my good staves from mission rewards.

[polar fractal]

finesse stat is super scuffed

[stoic pendant]

Emperors gift

[left mirage]

its either armory or mission rewards, good luck

[weak galleon]

Just gotta wait until crafting gets implemented to reroll decapitator perk. haven't noticed it doing anything, in psykhanium

[sleek hornet]

is there a way to see which missions give what rewards or random?

[mild lotus]

rending is armor pen

[magic hull]

shesh

[craggy bluff]

Highest base stats I've seen on a staff yet

[candid hawk]

i mean im upgrading a 420 power level blue RN and its hopefully gonna be around 500

[narrow fiber]

just got the redemption raiment and im beyond hyped

[mild lotus]

if you hit unarmored enemies, it does nothing

[median meteor]

the servitor must hate me then, because it never tries to sell me anything good

[polar fractal]

so is the dueling sword worth using on psyker my siblings? deflector perk on force sword and kinetic deflection feat imho are too good to pass up

[weak galleon]

I know. But it didn't seem to increase my damage on Maulers in Psykhanium, after killing trash mob in 1 hit

[mild lotus]

skill issue

[wide quest]

The scrier pants right?

[mild lotus]

[wide quest]

Oh wait nvm

[tall mesa]

is the axe worth it ?

isee veryone with axes

[wide quest]

The stripe one at the bottom

[hushed cedar]

@polar fractal I prefer the force sword. My ranged weapon changes but force sword 4 life

[magic hull]

is this good???

[wide quest]

Fucc I'm 8k coins short

[sleek hornet]

axe had good wave clear, i like force sword for restoring toughness

[regal raft]

Time witches penance or pain witches penance pants

[weak galleon]

Only Mk5, to my knowledge. One of top tier Psyker weapons, requires Kinetic Deflection to work.

[mild lotus]

quick, you have 30 mins

[weak galleon]

real powerhouse.

[bleak sonnet]

mk5 or mk8 is find

[median meteor]

8k ezpz

[wide quest]

I'll get the pain witches one then.

But still

[regal raft]

Yeah that was what was gaiting me aswell

[wide quest]

The Time witch pains looks better

😩

[weak galleon]

what does Mk8 have, by comparison?
I think that's one axe I haven't tried myself.

[stray cipher]

That's pretty nuts that with Kinetic Deflection you block melee attacks while reviving. Is that true for everyone as long as they have stamina? It's just that with increasing peril we can block so much more?

[regal raft]

They’re both miserable, get whichever you think looks worse, even the pain witches checkered pants with big boots and knee pads would work

[weak galleon]

That's normal, yes, we can cosplay a Bardin Ironbreaker, apparently.

[wide quest]

Checkered pants it is

[median meteor]

righty
time to work on the weeklys again

[polar fractal]

apparently the going out with a bang penance is bugged for some people atm, which is why i don't bother. the chest piece looks sick imho, but i am not fan of the penance itself

[weak galleon]

and then there's a special interaction that perk has with Mk5 Axe.

[stray cipher]

Oh? How so?

[gilded cave]

just managed the Warp Battery pennance, used Inner Tranquility and Warp Battery Feats to get 6 stacks and maintain them easier and then used Kinetic Barrage if I needed to panic quick cast a BB and Psychic Communion just in case the randos in my group were killing stuff too quick
the pennance notification didn't pop mid mission so I think I actually held full stacks for like 10 minutes because I wasn't sure how long I'd been going :E

[regal raft]

Perfect, the toilet king

[median meteor]

congratulations sibling

[polar fractal]

warp battery is a reasonable penance that is actually fun going for

[regal raft]

He brings with him the staff of plunging to clean the filthy heretics from this world

[weak galleon]

you mean KD and Mk5 Axe interaction?
To run Mk5 axe to full capacity, you'll be running on 0 stamina during hordes.
Which is where Deflection kicks in and allows you to block.

[median meteor]

im currently suffering

[gilded cave]

I actually didn't feel totally useless spamming BB for most of the mission 😄 almost felt like the closed beta again 😄

[gilded cave]

thank you

[polar fractal]

worry not , i am on 86/80 and 17/20

[warm smelt]

juicy

[polar fractal]

but i don't actively go for them

[weak galleon]

why 6 stacks?

[mild lotus]

bns dmg?

[regal raft]

That’s some nice modifiers

[weak galleon]

holy shit that base.

a 380 voidstrike.

[candid hawk]

I combine it with the perk that gives additional peril resistance per stack

[median meteor]

base stats from the emperor himself

[warm smelt]

yeah it was green first from vendor lol

[median meteor]

H O L Y

[teal needle]

Base good and you can replace terrifying barrage when crafting comes out, S+ rank staff

[weak galleon]

nah, modifiers are so so, the base is insane.
When crafting will be fully implemented that stuff can be reblessed into S-tier psyker tool.

[wide quest]

Does the item in the shop scale with your equipped items or your lvl?

[craggy bluff]

Now that some powerful staff

[median meteor]

afaik level

[teal needle]

owned items not equipped i think

[gilded cave]

6 stacks plus the peril resistance per stack makes you have to quell less often than running 4 stacks, just takes 2 more kills to get going

[wide quest]

I'm hella unlucky then.

[hushed cedar]

Does the charge attack on the surge staff automatically target weak spots?

[devout halo]

they gave general chat a 10 minute cooldown between posts lol

wtf

[stray cipher]

I might need more clarification. Doesn't this already work for any non-force melee even with stamina not depleted? Is there something specific about the MKV Axe's block that's different from say a duelling blade?

[weak galleon]

why is quelling a problem for keeping WC up?

you only need to quell down to 96-97%.

[gilded cave]

I was BBing basically every mob that I could to guarantee I had the longest timer until I needed to BB again and basically only dpsing via BB so my peril was quite high most of the run

[weak galleon]

difference is that Mk5 axe is a classic Vermintide axe with fast attacks, fuckton damage per hit, armor penetration, little cleave.

Except it's push attack has very good cleave with, again, fuckton damage.

[gilded cave]

plus 6 stacks gives you more damage on BB I think? so you can finish off tougher specials quicker and guarantee killing blows for stack maintenance

[warm meteor]

the purge is a little tricky to use sometimes, i feel super useless outside my range and im very reliant on my left click but it is fun stun locking dogs for cheap

[weak galleon]

so during hordes you are 100% of the time using push attacks only.

[stray cipher]

Ah okay so specifically for the push attack, thanks for clarifying!

[iron flame]

👀 Ohhh never used axe even in VT. Was a filthy dual hammer user because i suck at low cleave weapons in VT

[steep frost]

honestly it's just people saying the same things over and over, nothing of value has been lost

[warm meteor]

10 minutes sounds ridiculous haha

[steep frost]

what weapons should I keep an eye out for as I level?

[wide quest]

Hah, you haven't seen 30 minutes cooldown

[weak galleon]

Voidstrike, Purge, Surge staves.
Duelist blades, Force Sword, dagger (afaik, still good even after nerfs). Mk5 Axe when you'll reach lvl 20 for Kinetic Deflection, if you wish to go that route.

pay attention to weapon Base stats rating, not it's overall rating.

[iron flame]

Hmm guys, i don't want to be supporty CC bot anymore. Any suggestion for a DPS psyker build for a lvl 25 ? So sick of my team just dying, the moment i stopped CC to quell myself and i ended up failing to clutch alone.

[remote crown]

voidstrike

[subtle linden]

literally just waiting for a heresy repair

....

[weak galleon]

Voidstrike, Mk5 Axe with Kinetic Deflection.
Pure, raw dps.

[cloud maple]

Hey folks, still getting a hang of psy. I love the lightning staff; Does it hit more enemies as I charge it?

[subtle linden]

no

just more dmg

[gray kelp]

worth buying this one? assume block eff is good w/deflector

[cloud maple]

Well that's good too, ty!

[subtle linden]

i wouldnt because 14% is low

[tawny nacelle]

and im waiting for friends so i can do both killing monster and killing 5 elites in 12 sec

[weak galleon]

It's good with deflector. Keep in mind toughness is still bugged.

until next patch/hotfix.

[gray kelp]

yeah buying it with the intention to use it after toughness is fixed

or considering anyway

[subtle linden]

u can get a better one later

i personally prefer max hp over toughness tho

up2u

[fierce hazel]

Gib

[gray kelp]

wasnt sure, toughness seemed like a good buffer vs ranged and they seem more problematic than melee guys for psyker in my experience

[tawny nacelle]

got myself this 😉

[subtle linden]

yeah but

[weak galleon]

some blocking build?

[subtle linden]

its % increases and

[weak galleon]

passive blocking.

[tawny nacelle]

yeees :3

[subtle linden]

20% on 150 max hp is bigger than 16% toughness on 100 toughness base

:c

[fierce hazel]

My thought is with a %regen of toughness ability more toughness is more regen

[subtle linden]

atleast with 3 20% max hp curios i have about 290 hp

almost base ogrynn hp

[weak galleon]

True.
but then toughness is recoverable. In theory, if you stack enough, you might break some tresholds and/or get less health damage in general

[subtle linden]

i keep my toughness either capped or 0 because of 1st feat

[gray kelp]

also, when toughness actually works correctly I think toughness bleed is based on percentage of toughness

so in theory higher toughness should offset melee chip damage

which might be as valuable if not more than stacking hp no?

[subtle linden]

eh

i find toughness on psykers like a thin film of flexseal

shit breaks so fast is it worth stacking

[weak galleon]

I definitely felt difference between 100 and 134.

[subtle linden]

i mean i have 16% toughness curios but

[tawny nacelle]

i dont have an issue with it breaking :3

[subtle linden]

i dont like it over the hp

[tawny nacelle]

but i use this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042955372023001088/1048012663050993684/image.png

[weak galleon]

plus, how do toughness recovery talents even work?
Do they recover % of your total pool?
Does that mean 30% toughness recovery will mean ~45 toughness out of, say, 150 ?

[subtle linden]

percent

so if u have 110

it will reco 11 if u have 10% feat

[weak galleon]

ye, that's what i thought.

so stacking it is worth, kinda

[subtle linden]

max hp also gives u bigger hp pool even with wound

too

[weak galleon]

because both your toughness threshold and your toughness replenishment from talent goes up.

[weak galleon]

well, mostly sitting in tier 4 rn, so my current 3 wounds are enough for me.
Might be different on T5.

[subtle linden]

i just like hp cuz it can roll up to 20% but ive never seen a 20% toughness

without the secondary perks

[tawny nacelle]

im just going to go for max stamina and use the blocking everything sword 🙂

[subtle linden]

defelctor

[tawny nacelle]

that combined with the not taking dmg on 100% toughness, should be enough to just carry me through any dmg if played correctly

[subtle linden]

heresy+ toughness breaks so fast

[weak galleon]

yep

[tawny nacelle]

nah heresy doesnt break it too often

[weak galleon]

which is why having much more of it gives you a bit more time to reach cover.

[magic hull]

yoooo so excited

[subtle linden]

kinda sucks that psyker only has 100 toughness to multiply

versus 150 max hp to multiply

[weak galleon]

depends on team.
I had 2 zealots on quickplay today that just rushed forward like nobody's business.

so me and another psyker got completely surrounded.

[tall mesa]

SO what stats you got for your flamestick ?

[tawny nacelle]

i only use zappystick 🙂

[subtle linden]

i swap to purgatus for specific missions that spam hordes

[tawny nacelle]

zappydappy is king

[subtle linden]

and pugs suck at horde clear

[weak galleon]

where are you bringing these friggin orange item rewards from? Tier 5's ?

[subtle linden]

spam malice assassinations

[weak galleon]

i'm sure as hell not getting any on tier 4 quickplay.

[subtle linden]

for mats + emperors trash

its just rng

[magic hull]

hmnm is this even good

[vivid merlin]

do you have a setting that makes purgatus blind you less because I feel like I clear hordes about as fast as voidstrike except I can see problems behind the creamy milky white blaze

[subtle linden]

its pretty good

[tall mesa]

wait

how can it it for 16 damage

[subtle linden]

suppression on fire staff is nice

[tall mesa]

hit

[weak galleon]

sad. base isn't very good. too much went into Quell.

[still apex]

it's not bad

[subtle linden]

definitely usable

[magic hull]

how about this i got it last game reward

[still apex]

but not good

[weak galleon]

but not bad either, yes.

[subtle linden]

mark 5 axe = cleaver

[foggy smelt]

dude psyker is so broken and so much fun they fr need to nerf this class

[subtle linden]

mark 7 axe = headhunter

[silk siren]

I think they should increase the time it takes to headpop

[foggy smelt]

SERIOUSLY that would balance it all

[tall mesa]

yeah and reduce movement speed

[magic hull]

i got this base stat for the voidstrike last week or so, should i wait until i find a better one

[still apex]

i can't help but notice your force sword is dressed like an axe?

[weak galleon]

if only it rolled higher First Target.... but almost top tier. almost.

[subtle linden]

i think mind in motion should be a normal thing without being a feat 🙂

[foggy smelt]

@tawny nacelle watchu mean fam

psyker is busted

[tall mesa]

RIONAT YES !

[weak galleon]

you mean for making it orange ? Absolutely wait. The base isn't good.

[zinc phoenix]

No you must shoot foam in all directions

[subtle linden]

having normal move speed while quelling = saves ur ass a bunch if u realize how hordey hordes get

[left timber]

hey guys new psyker here, which staff is the best to use?

[magic hull]

ok, should i upgrade this one instead

[viscid matrix]

id prefer peril is my stamina for blocking, makes blocking so much safer

[weak galleon]

Can confirm, BB too strong at Tier 4-5.
Killing hound in 4 seconds is unacceptably fast.

[subtle linden]

take ur pick between voidstrike, purgatus, surge

all 3 have its uses

[viscid matrix]

yes, see if you can get crit chance perk on the upgrade

[weak galleon]

press V and check what Crit does on it, and if you are content with it.

[median meteor]

this bloody servitor

[viscid matrix]

the crit bonus on Surge means you want to put as much crit chance on it as possible so you can take advantage of that stat

[subtle linden]

voidstrike is a hallway clearer, purgatus with all the relevant perks makes its a no ammo flamethrower from zealot, surge makes u palpatine

[median meteor]

quell speed kills it for me

[magic hull]

wtf the purgatory staff so bad :(((

[weak galleon]

waited 1 hour to 4:00 am in order to check staves once more.

Not a single staff in the shop. Fuck you too, game.

[sick wigeon]

holy shit just crafted this

[bitter orbit]

Did the blackout missions get added to the game?

[still apex]

nice perks.. i mean blessings

[viscid matrix]

nice

[magic gull]

question guys, does the flame stack have a cap?

[paper trail]

Is it worth buying this on a psyker? I have never actually tried a knife

[weak galleon]

the base score is nice too, 363. first target at 78% so it makes up for the loss in damage stat.

[subtle linden]

i see most knife users speed running lower difficulty

but sure

[magic hull]

how do i know that

[left timber]

12.5% power? what is power in this game tho?

[weak galleon]

move your mouse over Crit.

[grand cedar]

will we be able to extract perks from a weapon in the near future?

[raw swift]

which one

[sick wigeon]

yea the damage could be a bit higher on it but just went into damnation meat grinder and it one hits trash mobs so thats nice