psyker-class

[cedar grove]

But that's against their own nature so they will never do it

[bleak tulip]

oh boy another shop, another 4 lasguns, 3 autoguns and 3 axes

[warm meteor]

orks are a robust ecosystem designed to be a super weapon. they got alot of fail safes in them

[limpid hill]

another 2001 one error

[rapid cypress]

But do they have anime body pillows

I don’t think so. W Imperium.

[cedar grove]

The real threat is that another Ork warboss becomes "Beast" level and they start organizing like mini-Krork again

[elfin jacinth]

Does anyone have an opinion on what stats/blessings are best on staffs?

[teal needle]

Correct, orks are the ultimate pinnacle in all fields, physically mentally and philosophically. This is an objective fact and I will not be hearing comments.

[limpid hill]

how did orks even come to be

[cedar grove]

which Thraka is kinda on the path to that

they are a bio weapon

[frail geyser]

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ork

[limpid hill]

i know they have those 2 gods that have similar names and same description in different order

[frail geyser]

cool site with lots of well kept wikis about 40k lore

[long wharf]

created by the Old Ones to fight the Nekrons

[warm meteor]

with the silent king being back that might not be the case. remember the necrons at their peak defeated the orks at their peak AND the eldar at their peak at the same time

[frail geyser]

great way to inhale the setting

[fast slate]

is there a way to get warp charges without head popping?

[cedar grove]

Orks were created by the Great Old Ones, the same race that created the Eldar, to be living weapons against the Necrons

[teal needle]

Depends on staff. Voidstrike wants vent on weak spot and damage and charge. Surge wants as much efficiency and vent as possible

[rapid cypress]

necrons appear, threaten ‘old ones’ old ones make krorks. krorks devolve to orks.

[warm meteor]

heck the imperium beat the orks when they were united and stronger then they are now

united ork race isnt as op as some think

[elfin jacinth]

What do you mean by efficiency?

[harsh cobalt]

the head is covered by that...thing. It's to improve connectivity with...whatever the fuck is that interface is

[cedar grove]

All it cost was a Primarch. And it's not like the Imperium has those laying around in spares.

[long wharf]

only one left

[cedar grove]

Lion is just taking a nap

[rapid cypress]

There’s a talent I think level 15-20 :) you just stand in coherency and allies killing enemies generates warp charges. Another can head pop every 15 seconds automatically to a random enemy

[frail geyser]

big cat hibernation

[teal needle]

Warp resist, vent speed, reduce cost of charge perk

[viscid matrix]

if an Ork lives long enough and grows big enough, they become basicly a Krork, and that is scary

[warm meteor]

but still, the orks arent so strong we need primarchs to do the same. ghaz might become a new beast but until that happens the orks arent a threat to the entire galaxy at once

[elfin jacinth]

Ah okay, that's what I thought you meant. I have the same opinion.

Is there something I'm missing in regards to soul blaze? It just seems outright bad.

[copper plank]

Hi I need help with the mind over matter task. I have done at least 10 of each mission type the only one I haven’t is flash mission. But it’s still dating I only done 6/7 . Anyone help?

[warm meteor]

kind of? ghaz is approaching it but his rise to fame has smth to do with a head injury reprogramming him. its possible that no ork can become a krork atm unless smth snaps in their genetics

[night fox]

you burn stuff, and synergizes with you perks.

[long wharf]

then you haven't done one of each mission type

[warm meteor]

the lore is vague on the process of krorkdom

[elfin jacinth]

Referring moreso to the damage output of the dot itself

[copper plank]

Is flash mission one of them then?

[long wharf]

the dot itself is bad

[warm meteor]

ghaz isnt special just cuz he is big, his injury did smth to him

[cedar grove]

Orks inherently get "bigga" as they fight, and win fights, which causes the Waagh to empower them

[elfin jacinth]

#40k-lore-chat

[night fox]

dmg is Meh, is more of utility and horde clear, i havent checked but soul blaze use to give 30% debuff, then it got nerfed, so i dont know now wht it does besides the CC and the Dot

[elfin jacinth]

Respectfully 🤍

[cedar grove]

And other Orks start inherently following the "bigga" Orks around which is how Boyz, Nobz, and Warbosses organize

[long wharf]

whoops, you're right, we need to get back to being on-topic : MY PREFERRED STAFF IS SUPERIOR TO YOURS NOW ARGUE

[cedar grove]

What is Psyker's place at max level / higher difficulties. Their elite killing power seems to nose dive after rank 3

[tall mango]

Goodmorning siblings

[forest lance]

I know it ain't the best, but the flamethrower staff is fun

[rapid cypress]

Lasgun superiority wdym

[copper plank]

I have done 10 raids, espionage, assignation, strike, disruption, investigation and repair missions. That’s 7 types. Why is it dating I only done 6?

[cedar grove]

cause Brainburst doesn't scale, and their abilities in general don't scale

[keen sigil]

cc bot

[tall mango]

insane horde clear

[night fox]

CC support/ high threat management

[tall mango]

or really good stuns

[teal needle]

Accatran + % brain burst feat isn't good, but it is funny

[rapid cypress]

I have this issue too. 😞

[bronze sierra]

It at the proper difficulty?

[teal needle]

Tank, cc, crowd clear

[tall mango]

surge staff provides one of the best stuns atm, but you sacrifice horde clear so you better hope your Allie’s can help.

[elfin jacinth]

I think they need to be tuned, but I find that primarily I'm killing snipers and other hard to reach enemies as well as Surge staffing gunners to buy space for Melee to get into range

[tall mango]

Psyker is NOT a tank what 💀

[mint burrow]

Is quell speed important on voidstrike? Also is voidstrike any good on heresy?

[bronze sierra]

I have like 232 hp my guy

[elfin jacinth]

Wait, what makes you think they're a tank?

[tall mango]

You should not be tanking

[warm meteor]

this is true, but ghaz is the strongest ork and it definitely has smth to do with his head injury. other large orks that were his size dont speak high gothic for instance, or display unorky behaviour he does in his books. his head injury did smth to him and his death did smth else to him. it could be each event is reprogramming him to become a krork, showing the process isnt as simple as "fight long enough". we have little lore on why the beast was what he was so its possible smth similar happened

[tall mango]

That’s not your role as psyker

[night fox]

there is no classic tank in this game, but aggro pull

[rapid cypress]

if you have the right talents you tank the daemonhost ez 😏

[teal needle]

Probably tangier than ogryn with dueling sword or force sword rn

[copper plank]

Legion it doesn’t say it has to be at any specific difficulty

[elfin jacinth]

Again. Respectfully #40k-lore-chat

[tall mango]

Ogryn can easily tank better

[night fox]

you can do that with force sword range block and close the gap pulling the aggro and making the range switch to melee

[teal needle]

Haven't seen a psyker built right, psyker can infinite tank a horde lmao

[bronze sierra]

Oh i can see them tanking

[elfin jacinth]

What do you consider tanking?

[cedar grove]

Kills with a Force Sword's alt fire should give Warp Charges

[warm meteor]

off tank when using deflector for aggroing ranged units is prolly what they meant

[tall mango]

Why tank when you can clear it in 3 shots

[teal needle]

Literally just sitting there blocking forever against anything and never taking damage

[tall mango]

it’s a waste of time and resources to just “tank” a horde when you clear the whole thing

[bronze sierra]

Theres no need for cc or tank if you eliminate ythe threats

[night fox]

it deff should since the last attack is basically BB

[unkempt locust]

too much shittshatt, focus on the topic: wich staff is best?

[tall mango]

Voidstrike

[cedar grove]

Surge or Voidstrike

[unkempt locust]

xD

[cedar grove]

for different uses

[viscid matrix]

surge or void

[elfin jacinth]

You can't block forever though. Even with the block generates peril talent. You can half push force sword spam though.

[unkempt locust]

why

[tall mango]

There’s also the soulblaze staff, heard that’s really good now

[viscid matrix]

its a subpar version of a zealot flamer

[tall mango]

okay BUT it looks cooler

[cedar grove]

Voidstrike is great for deleting hordes at range cause the charge fire penetrates seemingly everything

[warm meteor]

controlling hordes and enemies is a huge boon tho. alot of anti horde weapons dont just kill them fast, but keep them from hitting you back by applying staggers to multiple targets

[night fox]

you heard wrong cause it got nerfed, is just as good as it was but you cant proc flayer with the DoT now

[cedar grove]

Surge is good for CCing specials/armored enemies to death

[viscid matrix]

it has a limit

[tall mango]

I swore i heard it got it’s dmg buffed

[bronze sierra]

You see, syb, my staff evaporates hordes

[elfin jacinth]

At 4+ Difficulty Surge is pretty much king

[night fox]

range maybe. still does about the same thing it did before

[bronze sierra]

Id post it but im not at home

[plush tendon]

it's still very, very effective at bosses/hordes

[tall mango]

curious

[teal needle]

Voidstrike doesn't penetrate carapace or unyielding but it does explode for aoe

[steel veldt]

guys why is the psyker ability’s knock back so inconsistent

[cedar grove]

cause it's based on your Peril level AFAIK

higher peril, more knockback

[elfin jacinth]

Because just like the rest of the game it's buggy and unpolished

[bronze sierra]

Thats true crash

[burnt python]

it seems to work by adding a LOT of stagger to enemies, and some enemies are stagger resist

[steel veldt]

i tested it with different peril levels and couldn’t tell any differences

[tall mango]

The knock back is just weird

[steel veldt]

it knocked back the grunts in the grinder the same at 0% and 100%

[elfin jacinth]

Sometimes it straight up does not knock critical targets back such as pox bombers.

[teal needle]

F is messed with by basically any geometry. Doesn't do anything v muties either

[warm meteor]

yes, but to play devils advocate a zealots flamer is an ammo guzzler. on higher difficulties where more enemies and less ammo spawns it has its use to deal with hordes at reduced effectiveness for zero ammo cost relieving our friends of ammo costs indirectly. however the voidstrike is pretty great vs hordes too so idk

[night fox]

theres some serious hitbox issues with it, sometimes it just goes right through enemies and dont even trigger soulblaze if you have that perk

[burnt python]

stagger on pox bo mbers was bugged, they said they fixed it but maybe not

[steel veldt]

i just want the achievement for tossing everything off a bridge

[tall mango]

I’m fortunate enough to have been always able to knock them back with it

[void anvil]

the only things that makes a difference is the number of stacks you have when you force push afaik

[teal needle]

Use force sword and trauma stick

[charred topaz]

thats easy now

[elfin jacinth]

The challenge as been severely nerfed and should be pretty trivial now. I recommend Chasm Logistratum (sp) There's a very narrow bridge on the LEFT side very very early on in the level .Wait for horde, knock, done.

[viscid matrix]

its only 7 yall have it easy now

[tall mango]

There’s the map with the expanding bridges

[steel veldt]

force sword block stab is also crazy inconsistent

[keen sigil]

you are trying to find logic and reason where there is none, the game runs on spaghetti code held together with ducttape

[tall mango]

20 in 2seconds was stupid let’s be honest

[charred topaz]

yes it was

[grim bay]

anyone else feel like the new Force 2handed sword is kinda ass? we only get 1 weapon and its garbage 😢

[night fox]

paly the spionage mission and at the end you hold one bridge when the hord comes

[steel veldt]

i played the beta and saw that achievement and went nope lmfao

[tall mango]

what new weapon?

[keen sigil]

the force 2h is in the game?

[void anvil]

i got the 20 in 2 seconds, just took some thought and setup

[steel veldt]

7 is much more reasonable

[warm meteor]

we got a new weapon?

[plucky mortar]

yeah the new cliffhanger penance is babymode

[grim bay]

the 2h sword at Lv 21 (once you beat lv5)

[night fox]

is it really???? sheeeesh

[void anvil]

was something you had to do intentionally instead of something you might get just by playing

[elfin jacinth]

There's a new weapon?

[cedar grove]

the Heresy achievement for killing a boss with only brain burst is still trolling your own team

[noble sluice]

yea it was awful, literally could only do it with amazing luck or a full team willing to help

[steel veldt]

there’s a second force sword???

[thorn sphinx]

pics or it didn't happen

[grim bay]

or w.e the the rank is called when you complete lv5 difficulty past 20

[keen sigil]

what

[grim bay]

lv 20 prestige? idfk what it was called LOL

once you get the final cutscene

[tall mango]

trust level?

[warm meteor]

yeah i need evidence

[grim bay]

trust level ye

[long wharf]

knocking 20 horde off a thin walkway was easy with a little team coordination

[grim bay]

ty

[cedar grove]

Pics or it didn't happen

[terse orbit]

Do you think someone would go on the internet and lie

[tall mango]

isn’t that at 30?

Show us the sword

[burnt python]

there are no 2h sword for psyker

[plucky mortar]

this

[viscid matrix]

welp now its only 7

[long wharf]

knocking 7 off literally anywhere is rather easy

[steel veldt]

oh yeah is there a prestige system i’ve seen people dripped out at trust level 1

[thorn sphinx]

guys guys guys the new blaze staff is crazy good

[cedar grove]

alts / store purchases?

[grim bay]

it doesnot reset your lv i just didnt know the name

[tall mango]

inb4 it’s the basic sword that you get really early and he JUST got it

[viscid matrix]

no prestiges yet

[keen sigil]

oh boy lets nerf it to 7 but the monster peanance by 10% hahahah what a joke

[ornate hamlet]

It’s out?

[grim bay]

but when you beat difficulty lv 5 you get the final unlock scene

[steel veldt]

not to my knowledge, it didn’t look like the gear in the shop

[tall mango]

the monster penance isn’t that bad tbh

Get a beast of nurgle and a pre made

[long wharf]

did they release new weapons?

[tall mango]

let them kite it around and just BB spam

[grim bay]

and unlock portrait, final weapon(s) just 1 for psyker, and the larger shop

[elfin jacinth]

The penance itself is still stupid. But the 10% is very significant, it's not longer and instant loss if someone accidently chips it or a bomber dmgs it.

[tall mango]

what larger shop

[spice oar]

No but there's a cash shop

[grim bay]

I just said 😢

[tall mango]

what the fuck are you talking about

[long wharf]

is there a new weapon in the cash shop?

[ornate hamlet]

Where’s the two handed sword

[grim bay]

from finishing a Lv5 mission

[ornate hamlet]

I neeeeeeed it

[grim bay]

ill go screenshot it brb

[ornate hamlet]

Give me force sword!!!!

[steel veldt]

the monster one seems like it should be decently easy with a coordinated team it’s just kinda tedious and straight up impossible for solo players

[keen sigil]

60% would be fair instead of 90%

[tall mango]

jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[spice oar]

No as in cosmetics srry

[cedar grove]

Post a picture or it didn't happen

[tall mango]

It’s very slow

But very doable

BoN is the easiest

[thorn sphinx]

ill go screenshot photoshop it brb

[cedar grove]

It requires you have 4 people in coms together so you can spend 8 minutes BBing a boss

[warm meteor]

BoN does seem the most "passive"

[noble sluice]

yogable getting called out by the whole chat lmao

[steel veldt]

makes sense, but i stand by it being undoable without coms

[tall mango]

Plague Ogryn isn’t as easy due to its speed

[long wharf]

I refuse to ask my team to not play for 10 minutes so I can do a penance

[grim bay]

gotchu

[elfin jacinth]

Sure it would. There's numerous ways they can make the penance more fun and less obnoxious.

[tall mango]

no one believed you

[warm meteor]

as i thought

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

[tall mango]

so what’s the gotchu here

[warm meteor]

just a meme

[grim bay]

"no one believed you" dude had the bait so deep down his throat. now he skipped straight to denial

[thorn sphinx]

ban yogable

[cedar grove]

Another dumb achievement is the "100% accuracy with no ammo left" on Veteran

[steel veldt]

what’s the meta regarding force staves

[viscid matrix]

does the assassin targets shield count as part of thier health, or only the hp count? cause they are monstrocities

[tall mango]

Anyway

[grim bay]

anyway

[tall mango]

Ogryns got harder too

6 enemy ogryns with one bull charge

[noble sluice]

2nd the ban yogable

[warm meteor]

how is saying "pic or didnt happen" falling for smth

[grim bay]

3rd the baneth of yo gable

[long wharf]

you should rename yourself to YoGableGable

[warm meteor]

even yoga wants to be banned

[grim bay]

@warm meteor its not, if thats all he said. 😄

[worn canopy]

That is the most obvious bait

Can’t believe it worked

[tall mango]

He wasn’t even reading what i said

[grim bay]

8 replies is not the same as "just said xxx"

[left hare]

whats the preferred loadout for psykers rn

[tall mango]

what a joke

[warm meteor]

im a fucking cat

[viscid matrix]

Surge staff or void staff

[grim bay]

what kind of cat tho

[thorn sphinx]

Siblings, let us all unite in our faith. The ban of Yogable must be delivered promptly.

[bronze sierra]

@steel veldt if your asking for whats the best, void is the most versatile and good at most things, surge for stuns

[warm meteor]

pussy you could say

[grim bay]

BROTHERS

[worn canopy]

Force sword or cutlass
Void staff, Surge or my favorite being the purgatus

[grim bay]

PLEASE

[tall mango]

Let our Beloved show him the light

[left hare]

whats a purgatus

[bronze sierra]

Like void is FANTASTIC for horde and chaff clear

[worn canopy]

Goodbye sibling

[tall mango]

the fire staff

[warm meteor]

flamethrower staff

[worn canopy]

Flames

[bronze sierra]

Flame staff moomoo

[steel veldt]

voidstrike goes crazy after trying them all it feels the best to me, the lightning one was a little disappointing it didn’t feel like it did much at all

[grim bay]

Force Sword or Cutlet

[spice oar]

To the warp with you sibling

[keen sigil]

surge staff + dagger best

[bronze sierra]

Its good stun but not much else

[left hare]

cutlass is cos it's just rapier isn't it

[warm meteor]

it goes fwooooosh

[grim bay]

i dont want to go 😢 please Mr. Ogryn

[tall mango]

hood looks bad

[spice oar]

Force sword and void

[viscid matrix]

its damage is shit, but its cc is way too good not to have it

[plucky mortar]

Voidstrike amazing

[tall mango]

let the hair flow sibling

[noble sluice]

it can stun everything besides bosses, not great damage but very helpful

[left hare]

sienna players when they realize they have a rapier

[tall mango]

sienna has a rapier?

[spice oar]

God a hood with hair flow, too bad it'll be in the item shop

[bronze sierra]

I love using the purge one as its fun

[keen sigil]

no

[grim bay]

Sienna is a rapier?

a pillar of soldiars

[left hare]

is cutlass dueling sword

[warm meteor]

voidstrike is coolio

[left hare]

or is it actually a cutlas

[grim bay]

cutlet

[bronze sierra]

I like big boom

[tiny fossil]

Hey guys sorry for the dumb question I'm not super familiar with warhammer but is it pick a character history for the psyker that wont make them be a simp for the god emperor

[bronze sierra]

And heretic bowling

[tall mango]

yes

Zealot is the simp

[noble sluice]

I hope we get a psycher helmet like the one from the astartes vids

[tall mango]

Ogryn is the simple and friendly fella

[grim bay]

Simp of Emperor or god

[tall mango]

Vet is the angry cunt who we all hate

[steel veldt]

am i the only one who thinks the descriptions of most weapon traits are super confusing and really hard to tell what they do

[tall mango]

and Psyker is based

[bronze sierra]

They can be blood

[worn canopy]

I don’t hate vets

[tall mango]

You should

[warm meteor]

we all love beloved here

[bronze sierra]

They were way worse in the preorder beta

[tiny fossil]

made my character and all they are talking about is how they love the god emperor and all that and it is zzzz i want my character to be like less patriotic or w/e

[night fox]

"If i would had precharge my BB" said literally no one ever

[keen sigil]

i simp for eldar bussy

[noble sluice]

helmet like this would be slick

[spice oar]

Loner

[steel veldt]

any kind of face mask would be sick

[unkempt juniper]

i've been asking for this for a whiel

[left hare]

what feats to take for psyker

[warm meteor]

loner is definitely what you want

[tall mango]

Very true sibling

[warm meteor]

low key a heretic

[tiny fossil]

ok cool ty

[spice oar]

They shit talk the imperium every chance they get, see it for what it is rlly

[steel veldt]

loner is so cranky i love him

[warm meteor]

beloved is amazing tho

[left hare]

is soul blaze good

[tall mango]

Beloved My Beloved

[keen sigil]

no

[steel veldt]

yeah but i wanted to be mad genius not just mad

[ornate hamlet]

I picked seer cuz it gives me Auntie Sienna vibes

[warm meteor]

its alright

[unkempt juniper]

plot twist: Beloved is actually tzeentch pretending to be big e

[warm meteor]

soul blaze has to be built into to be good tho

[unkempt juniper]

he has a quote about dreaming of the crystal palace

[steel veldt]

i got the subtitles easter egg and it was great lol

[left hare]

currently i'm running 2 2 2

for feats

[grim bay]

has been banned from the channel

[steady beacon]

What's the ideal roll for Voidstrike staffs?

[tall mango]

I would never fall to chaos worship

[warm meteor]

but it gets alot of synergy later in the feat tree

[viscid matrix]

its just not good at all, its alright at malice and lower, but its not great in heresy or damnation

[left hare]

the ascendant blaze is it?

[steel veldt]

staff quell speed stats only apply with the staff out right

[viscid matrix]

crit and peril removal

[noble sluice]

anyone else loving the psycher with chainsword? great for pretty much everything

[unkempt juniper]

the quell peril on headshot one

[tall mango]

Use the force sword instead

[warm meteor]

i mean technically DOTs are better the more health enemies have :)

[unkempt juniper]

also low blast radius and high other stats

[keen sigil]

i only play psyker cuz there is no admech class 😤

[night fox]

x/x/1 and you cant forget about ythe stupi warp charge mechanic for good

[viscid matrix]

except psyker fire is shit and does 1/4 of what burn and bleed does

[left hare]

i guess that makes sense.

[steady beacon]

I should specify more, I'm referring to the modifiers portion

[steel veldt]

i’m not there yet but i’m planning to do 2/2/2/2/1/2

[left hare]

what does it mean kill an enemy with a warp attack?

[viscid matrix]

80% for all, less charge and quell doesnt hurt

[grim bay]

Message Removed For Heresy

[left hare]

so force sword special + staff + brain burst?

[viscid matrix]

it is unfortunatly

[steel veldt]

Yogable is an agent of chaos

[unkempt juniper]

blast radius is kinda irrelevant, so you want higher rolls in everything else imo

that is still a decent staff tho

[left hare]

i assume essence harvest is the goto?

[unkempt juniper]

charge rate and dmg are the most important stats on voidstrike

[bleak tulip]

me with forcesword

just bully the fatty

[steady beacon]

Gotcha, so aim for dmg, charge, and warp resist?

[unkempt juniper]

yeah

[warm meteor]

its serviceable, i just think without multiple sources to proc it its bad. i think it reaches "okay" status with the right stuff

but definitely not as great as bleed builds

[unkempt juniper]

i don't see a noticable difference with more blast radius and quell speed is really just a quality of life until we can slap the quell on headshot perk on it

[warm meteor]

did we ever get confirmation on whether the purge staffs DOTs count for our talents?

[grim bay]

its like me mum use to say, if you cant beat em, just hit em harder

[warm meteor]

or is it considered a different effect

[night fox]

yeah, it was just for a previous discussion ppl were defending precharge BB, and the only point they had was to kill a burster that came at you from close so you would pre charge it to kill him

[steady beacon]

Quell speed across all staffs w/ varying percentages, doesn't appear to have a significant impact afaik

[pallid sun]

Savant has the emps like a parrot on his shoulder, does that count?

[bleak tulip]

at this point I wish BB right click was just aoe or something like that

precharge aint never useful

[unkempt juniper]

you're missing the point i made, to keep warp charges up inbetween area doors

[viscid matrix]

take your staff into the Meat Grinder and test it

[unkempt juniper]

if you care about warp charges that is

[arctic holly]

The purgatus dot stacks on top of soulblaze and vice versa, it's the same dot

I tested it in the meatgrinder

[finite goblet]

it does

[bronze sierra]

Its just not worth building for

[warm meteor]

thats good

[arctic holly]

Yeah it's garbage

[warm meteor]

awesome

[unkempt juniper]

its still very little damage though

[errant wren]

ideal second perk on a voidstrike staff

[arctic holly]

The purgatus staff itself is SIIIIIIIIICK so i recommend it

[viscid matrix]

soulburn caps at like 200 at most, burn and bleed are over 500

[arctic holly]

But the dot is not why you get it

[errant wren]

I really enjoy the quel on weakspot but not sure about the second

[crystal flower]

nice

[night fox]

to keep warp charges you need to kill. i mean, yeah i can see that if you must have max charges and dont want to risk teammates killing trash mobs. But that doesnt it dismiss my innitial claim that RMB is the worse of that entire mechanic, i mean you can use a white weapon teh entire game.

The fact is that is worse in every aspect than using lmb

[viscid matrix]

the cc of surge is better cause its stagger and stun, purge is just stagger

[tall mango]

How about a block with a push

[young summit]

Is noone playing a ogrin on the gamepass version

[teal needle]

I'd only bring purgatus into a pre-made where nobody had a flamer or force power sword

[young summit]

been 2h since i saw one on the hub or a mission.

[unkempt juniper]

yeah but it does have at least one very niche legitimate use

[iron flame]

I got to lvl 25 now. But... Sigh. Playing CC bot as Psyker right now is like just saying. Alright I won't clutch anymore

[arctic holly]

Purge staggers an entire hallway of poxwalkers plus some specials, and what it doesn't stun it outright kills

[signal turret]

Im still keeping the faith and clutching all the time, granted its due to FS Deflector and Kinetic Deflection lol

[night fox]

yeah, like i said, only use is to kill something without highlighting it, you can scroll up or search my logs

[grim bay]

Sooooooon

[iron flame]

Sadly I am not max level so everything is blue

[warm meteor]

on other classes my clutch moments are because of CC. without stun grenades i would have had much more trouble saving downed comrades

[night fox]

the two other dudes were jsut arguin about that it was more than that and making every kind of possible scenario to justify using it over any other mechanic

[warm meteor]

i should go level my psyker ;-;

good bye siblings

[iron flame]

Yea... But I need to channeling to keep the CC up soo when it is time to clutch, it is just all melee

[ivory marsh]

is psyker the best class in the game

[iron flame]

😅

[hollow raven]

Yes.

[viscid matrix]

psyker can use deflection to block while reviving

[signal turret]

They dont have it yet, only 25

[terse orbit]

yes

[unkempt juniper]

i tend to just use the mkVId recon lasgun with the brain burt on hit chance feat and a duelling sword, larping as a veteran is better at killing elites than playing psyker

[lunar crater]

I like psyker but idk. If it's the best. But I enjoy that type of playstyle with micromanagement so it's best for me 😄

[unkempt juniper]

the autopistol also works for that

[signal turret]

[iron flame]

Yea... I am wondering if I should just larp as vet by carrying a gun lol

[arctic holly]

Psyker is awesome but severely hampered by the fucking atrocious mechanics tied to it

[night fox]

heavy laspistol has a better push than your ability LUL, it cost 10 peril and knocks everything down

[viscid matrix]

psyker is currently the worst class, it will hopefully get better in future

[half nebula]

the psyker voice actor I use is the best, but is also 99% why I play it

[arctic holly]

Soulblaze and warp charges might as well be placeholder text

[half nebula]

think i'm just bad 😦

[versed spade]

Which one

[unkempt juniper]

warp charges are only worth it with the 6% peril resist per change and 6 max charges feats

[arctic holly]

The heavy laspistol fuckin RIPS

[half nebula]

female, russian sounding

[unkempt juniper]

sanctioned, loner, or Beloved

[half nebula]

"FEAR ME BWAHAHAHA"

never gets old

absolutely losing my shit all the time when playing her

[tall mango]

yes sibling, don’t listen to any haters

[arctic holly]

Fear me OOPS

[unkempt juniper]

Beloved says that you HAVE TO DIE!

[iron flame]

Yea found out the hard way today. Got a horde on a tiny bridge in the last part espionage. Thought I will finally get my hood. Use F... Non of the horde fell off

😭

[arctic holly]

They changed it to 7 enemies instead of 20

It's so easy now

[lunar crater]

I notice in t4/5 it really drops. Hopefully later down the line it will feel as useful as the others.

[iron flame]

Sob in no hood

[half nebula]

it's the female Loner

[void anvil]

how rare is the soulblaze blessing?

[arctic holly]

What does the blessing do?

[void anvil]

played 70 hours and only seen it once

add soulflame stacks on crit

[night fox]

i dont think nobody has datamined the chances yet. atm is all RNG

[unkempt juniper]

i wish there was a 2nd feat option that did litterally anything for gun psyker

[arctic holly]

Wow that's terrible

1 stack?

[rapid cypress]

Elites shrug off BB on T5 like it’s nothing 😩

[void anvil]

no more than one i dont remember how many

[haughty parrot]

I've gotten it on 2 awful lasguns just holding onto it till I rip the perk off

[teal needle]

Psyker doesn't kill elites or win ranged engagements as well as vet. It's otherwise a pretty great class that needs some tweaks. It's completely viable in t4 and 5.

[arctic holly]

I'd still rather have a different blessing i think

Until soulblaze gets better

[tall mango]

how DARE you use a gun as psyker

[unkempt juniper]

i want to deal damage

[void anvil]

stacks are more effective the more you add on, it would be really good with the purgatas staff

[tall mango]

You have your staves for that

[arctic holly]

No the purgatus staff build stacks like crazy and it has a maximum that sucks

[unkempt juniper]

recon lasgun is more dmg

fight me

[signal turret]

Why not just play Vet lol

[viscid matrix]

i wish there was a feat that gave extra damage to anything in the psykers kit, besides 6% for 2 extra warp charges

[tall mango]

you’re a psyker not a cringevet

[void anvil]

it has a max?

[signal turret]

Youre just hurting yourself for... no reason

[lunar crater]

It's disheartening. I am only level 20 but are there talents that let you cast bb faster? Cause I made a Sharpy and I can just kill elites faster than bb pops and it's like bb is my best trick. I should be able to pop faster

[teal needle]

Voidstrike shreds heads through cover

[versed spade]

Funny, she doesn't sound Russian to me

[tall mango]

Your level 30 feat let’s you cast it 25% faster

[unkempt juniper]

lvl 30 talent does

[tall mango]

only after you use your F ability

[arctic holly]

Yeah it caps out and if you're using the purge staff they will die too quickly to stack

[tall mango]

[teal needle]

100% German, like male version

[tall mango]

it should be flat out faster with the more warp charges you have imo

[lunar crater]

Oh thank goodness

[tall mango]

to help you keep that momentum

[rapid cypress]

Level 30 you can cast BB faster with the final talent on the bottom of the row! Other than that BB becomes mostly obsolete because of how tanky mobs get. Psyker feels more of a control/support class than a damage class.

[night fox]

someone yesterday said that haymaker still procs with your ability/DoT

can anyone confirm that after the nerf/fix to perks not getting trgger by abilities

[lunar crater]

Yeah. I think it's just support. Not a dps.

[half nebula]

she sounds russian like a light bad russian accent

[arctic holly]

Which one sounds Russian?

[iron flame]

Rero into Veteran. Play til you get bolter. Congrats you are now anti specialist and elite.

😭

[arctic holly]

There's a French woman and a German guy

Nothing remotely Russian sounding lol

[rapid cypress]

Supposed to be crazy powerful but we tickle people for 20 seconds and then blow ourselves up because we can’t handle the power

[iron flame]

Loner sounds German right? No clue

[shadow quail]

It's a shame because I enjoy the class, just not very good at high difficulties

[iron flame]

What are the accent. I just choose loner female because they are the most heretical

[radiant lance]

So at this point it's pretty obvious Psyker was the last class to be developed, right?

[fresh gull]

BB seems to crash my game now sometimes? am alone in this?

[arctic holly]

Lmfao

[hexed dagger]

Look at sienna in VT2. Still doesn't have her final subclass out

[summer prairie]

zealot seems possibly more unfinished

[radiant lance]

Yeah, fair enough.

[iron flame]

But at least zealot is still usable

[arctic holly]

Except sienna is the best in the game, unironically

[radiant lance]

Honestly all of the classes feel a bit unfinished, lol

[signal turret]

It can definitely work just fine at T4/T5, its a borderline carry when played well, you just have to join us in sweatiness

[fresh gull]

oook?...

nice response

[teal needle]

Psyker is about as good as ogryn or zealot at high level, vet is overtuned rn

Psyker is a clutch machine

[solid wren]

boiz what are the optimal feats?

[half nebula]

what's the sweaty build so I can practice my sweat?

[radiant lance]

How so?

[balmy jacinth]

Which maps have the most ledges for the cliffhanger pennance?

[summer prairie]

with the blocking talent I suppose

[versed spade]

Dunno, I am Russian myself and to me she doesn't sound like russian at all

[signal turret]

More of a skill than a build thing

[shadow quail]

What are you clutching? straws?

[iron flame]

No clue. Buddy. Doesn't crash for me when casting BB

[teal needle]

Busted block builds for ezpz res. Very self sufficient.

[signal turret]

And somewhat an item thing

[half nebula]

sure fam

[south monolith]

Psyker is nowhere as bad as the majority make it seem.

[signal turret]

This + your staff

[iron flame]

Ogryn sounds Russian right?

[lunar crater]

Yes I main sienna UC and she's so fun. Psyker has to catch up jajaja

[radiant lance]

You kinda have to get a Deflector Force Sword for that don't you?

[arctic holly]

Depends on the ogryn but yeah one of them sounds russian

[signal turret]

One day ill care enough to record a match

[teal needle]

Problem with psyker is its insanely perk and build dependant

[hexed dagger]

Agreed. My point was that "casters" seem to be low man on totem pole for development

[rapid cypress]

what happened to shock staff supremacy and what have you done with him

[signal turret]

I feel like people get into a depressive spiral about Psyker without realizing its potential

[teal needle]

That needs fixed

[rapid cypress]

😭

[arctic holly]

But none of the psykers sound Russian unless you were born deaf

[half nebula]

maybe then I am just hearing it inside my head, I just feel like something in the way she sais certain things sound like a badly done russian accent. But I could be wrong.

[void anvil]

so im looking at this site to get an idea of the available blessings for different weapons https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits? and honestly the blessings available on the purgatas staff are kind of lame. theres only like 5, no fun builds to make there :b

[teal needle]

Gamer 👶s just whine incessantly

[radiant lance]

I think the bigger issue for me is how annoying it is to play. Warp Charges are terribly designed imo.

[void anvil]

do you guys think with the crafting system we might be able to put blessings from one staff type onto another?

[signal turret]

I used Void for a match in T4 and felt like I had to retire the name out of respect 😭

if its any consolation I went right back to my Surge after that match was over

[arctic holly]

Void staff supremacy

[rapid cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-angry-punho-fechado-de-gif-26104429

[radiant lance]

And having BB take such a downturn in power feels very bad, even if the class is still strong.

[iron flame]

I mean when you had God like skill. Anyone can clutch

[arctic holly]

Void and purge supremacy

[iron flame]

The rest of us plebs need help

[dapper galleon]

Guys, is our imperial cosmetic bugged?

[teal needle]

Psyker holds right click and then presses e to clutch

[void anvil]

trauma staff has the best variety in blessings, second by voidstrike staff

[rapid cypress]

There is no war in ba sing se.

There is no therapy in the imperium

[teal needle]

Need the perks though

[burnt tapir]

I think literally everything is viable on t5 missions. But not everything feels equal.

[arctic holly]

Yeah but the trauma staff sucks dick so it's like blessing a pile of shit on the floor

[signal turret]

Yeah, actively ignoring half of your classes toolkit is imo evidence of poor design. Just gotta work with what ya got until they do something about it

[south monolith]

Psyker isn't bad but the methods for gearing are. Which can feel worse on psyker.

[burnt tapir]

Does it?

[signal turret]

FS with Deflector perk paired with Kinetic Deflection feat is insanely strong

[woven hornet]

can you test any staff in the training grounds thing or only what you have purchased?

[shadow quail]

Never any staffs in the store for me lol

[teal needle]

When did several people with functioning brains enter the chat

[radiant lance]

Personally just stopped playing my Psyker because it was a frustrating experience. Will come back to it once its fixed.

[dapper galleon]

Guys, ask yourselves, what can a psyker do that a vet cant do faster

[iron flame]

But hey. They can still work in t5. Just like how a lvl 1 with shovel can clutch if they had enough skill levels

[shadow quail]

die?

[void anvil]

yeah ik, so sad too because it has a completely unique + 8 rending stack blessing available. and yeah @burnt tapir it def does

[viscid matrix]

cc, but ogryn does that better

[rapid cypress]

Get himself blown up

[signal turret]

CC forever

[south monolith]

Tank a T5 daemonhost, GL vet

[rapid cypress]

Hehe penance go boom

[radiant lance]

Almost guarantee rez, horde clear / cc.

[viscid matrix]

ogryn does that better

[signal turret]

Easily be the last man standing when you apotheosis into a block dodge sliding sweatlord

[dapper galleon]

The lightning staff chain cc battery is our only use. But that locks us into 1 build only!

[void anvil]

compared to this available for purge and surge

[potent rose]

is it just me, or does the flamethrower staff not do much damage?

[arctic holly]

I don't CC as Psyker bc i have a bloodlust

[twilit kayak]

i take the free warp charge feats (warp charge chance on kill, chance to brainburst on hit) and the final one that applies soulblaze on ult

brainburst is useless past malice though

what staves have you guys been running? I was trying the flame one before the release patch but i'm back to voidstrike until they fix the vet toughness bug

[potent rose]

i feel like surge kills faster than the other staffs despite being "cc"?

[arctic holly]

Why CC what you can bowl over with a glowing blue bowling ball

[south monolith]

Ogryns weren't the topic but also they have to have a shield or its gg

[dapper galleon]

Voidstrike kills faster for sure.

[arctic holly]

Surge hits like 6 max. Void and purge are way more.killy

[weak galleon]

is Finesse important on a Blade?

[signal turret]

Surge deals extra damage on Flak targets, you can see for yourself in Meat Grinder

[iron flame]

Shh don't know you know. The pros and intellgent players here said they still work in t5

[signal turret]

For unarmored targets you're pretty much just tickling them tho, its more about the CC

[summer prairie]

it's attack speed so yes finesse is important

[burnt tapir]

In what way? I've run 3 different staffs through 5s

[dapper galleon]

Zealots win the guaranteed res with the stun nade.

[versed spade]

Ranger veteran in VT2 was underpowered back in my days, so we can hope for some buffs or reworks for our beloved spark’ead

[iron flame]

Yea... It just takes years which is what worries me

[burnt tapir]

It's crit/headshot multiplier

[dapper galleon]

It was a response to what psyker does better than a vet.

Our only unique addition to the team is the surge staff.

[radiant lance]

Not really. Can still be interrupted by ranged enemies.

[signal turret]

I tried the Voidstaff in T4 and meh... Feel like if you have a great group, sure, works good, but Surge just feels infinitely better at carrying

[twilit kayak]

why wouldnt you run a force sword

[south monolith]

Zealots run out of grenades and can't block ranged attacks while reviving.

[teal needle]

Not when there's ranged enemies involved

[arctic holly]

For fun, the thing we're supposed to have with video games

[burnt tapir]

Unlimited AoE clear is good too. Zealots can't just endless flamethrow all day every day.

[twilit kayak]

its the only psychic melee thats why i play the class

[iron flame]

Shop. Hadn't seen one since lvl 10

[dapper galleon]

Only way we don't get interrupted is with the blessing to block ranged attacks

[weak galleon]

Speaking of Crits.
how to figure out which weapons have additional crit multipliers. Do any classes have it?

[twilit kayak]

brutal

[versed spade]

Well… hope is the first step on the road to disappointment then

[signal turret]

I spent a disgusting amount of time just leaving the game open to check the armory while I did other things. I wish you the best

[dapper galleon]

Not unlimited, we have quelling downtime.

Have you tried headpopping anything in diff 4/5? Vets just get to it before you.

Feels frustrating to waste a few seconds to charge it up even.

[teal needle]

That plus block with peril plus blocking efficiency. Can do silly block with dueling sword too

[teal needle]

Dude infinite voidstrike w vent on weak spot

[radiant lance]

Yup, which is kind of a must-have imo.

[night fox]

on T4+ is 100% a must have unless you wanna be that one guy

[dapper galleon]

Must haves aren't nice since they limit our class play style

[rapid cypress]

guys maybe the daemonhost just needs a kiss on the lips

[arctic holly]

The block eats your stamina like crazy blocking ranged which sucks but can be clutch

[burnt tapir]

I don't headpop shit on t5 unless it's to snag a stack off a poxwalker because I have nothing else to do for a couple seconds.
And the downtime is literally like 2/10 seconds. High rolled staffs quell incredibly fast and I always run +36% peril resist.

[radiant lance]

I agree, but that's what we are dealing with right now

[signal turret]

Haven't experienced this at all unless im just sitting there letting a Dreg Gunner light me up endlessly

[teal needle]

At least dt gives you two blessings instead of VT's 1

[dapper galleon]

Yep, stopped using it altogether unless your vet cant seem to lock a sniper down or something

[radiant lance]

If you are try-harding I'm pretty sure Deflection Force Sword is a given

[burnt tapir]

Some weapons do, I don't know that there's a reliable list of which though. Zealot focuses on crits, or at least can. So does Surge staff

[signal turret]

Ranged shots tickle Deflector FS

[south monolith]

Every class currently builds with must haves.

[weak galleon]

he focuses on crits, but i haven't seen any +Critchance on zealot's kit.

[arctic holly]

I might have a crappy FS so thags gair

[weak galleon]

hence why im asking if there's any hidden stuff

[arctic holly]

That's fair*

[exotic kindle]

check lvl10 talents

[dapper galleon]

I feel like the power sword really outdoes the force sword

[burnt tapir]

It's one of his bleed talents, adds crit chance iirc

[arctic holly]

The force sword is better against maulers and ogryn

[weak galleon]

Seen that one, but it has precondition.
and how to tell which attacks on which weapons inflict bleed then?

[arctic holly]

It stunlocks them and then they die

[south monolith]

For cleave, but we have staves which are better

[exotic kindle]

nah power sword is still better because it deals with mixed hordes

force sword will fail you when you need it most lol

[arctic holly]

Power sword usefulness is overstated and overrated

[burnt tapir]

It's a bless that rolls on knife. There are other ways too. Try the zealot chat.

[weak galleon]

kk

[arctic holly]

Buy it's the best vet melee for sure

Just not AS perfect as everyone says

[burnt tapir]

Defensively it's mediocre, offensively it's a power house

[empty granite]

The Force Sword is best for when an elite or special overruns your team and it needs dead RIGHT NOW. So you empower and light attack to stagger and nuke it.

[night fox]

maulers yeah, i wouldn't try and get into an ogryn with it. specially the hammer ones, is a one hit and gone if you mess up or get interupted by a trash mob

[exotic kindle]

im sure everyone else is wrong

if power sword wasnt vet only it's all everyone would use lol

[arctic holly]

Lots of people are wrong all the time

[paper trail]

lol

[arctic holly]

And i said it's overrated, not that it isn't good

[empty granite]

You very rarely use the Force Sword to clear trash. You typically use the stave to do it.

[ornate hamlet]

What damage does the force sword do on its special

[burnt tapir]

Leveled a vet, power sword is fucking wild.

[night fox]

sadness and missery is on a trauma

[empty granite]

The FUCK? A 380 base item?

[paper trail]

I looked at this for like 5 mins before realising it was a trauma staff

[burnt tapir]

1200ish, potentially a bit more

[signal turret]

380 on a Trauma... The Emperor protects, but the Emperor also plays jokes 😦

[bleak sonnet]

thats the max yeah

[ornate hamlet]

That's a fuck ton

[bleak sonnet]

ive got 380 on a dueling sword mk5 :3

[dapper galleon]

If the trash is in your face or spawns right behind you, you have little choice

[empty granite]

Ah. Too bad the charge rate is not great

[burnt tapir]

Not quite a thunder hammer, but it's an easy second place

[night fox]

i know how much it hurts tho

[ornate hamlet]

I've got a level 30 vet which I main but my second is a level 10 psyker

[empty granite]

If you have a void/purg staff it's easy to back dodge while spamming no charge right clicks

[burnt tapir]

Ez swap to mk V duelling sword, backstep twice, use the 2 football fields of space to kill with staff.

[stone sage]

your getting staffs in the weapon store all i get are guns

[paper trail]

Im buying it anyway for the perk once the rest of upgrade stuff comes out lol

[arctic holly]

The tactical hatchet is awesome for movement too in love with that little bugger

[solar loom]

Anyone else think it's weird that the Nsara Mindwalker outfit comes with a laspistol and staff? You can't actually equip both of those at the same time.

[restive latch]

Which one of you Psykers stole my helmet (this is a bit of meme, but also just a funny bug)

[dapper galleon]

Discussing managing that situation with a force sword + staff

[ornate hamlet]

Reminds me of space balls LMFAO

[teal needle]

Make way for Dark Helmet

[empty granite]

To which you just keep back dodging while charging or spamming no charge shots

[dapper galleon]

Sometimes if you're the last one standing you can get overwhelmed against a wall or no space to dodge to.

[shadow lark]

Emperor help me I can't complete cliffhanger. The ult push is too weak. I tried on multiple maps without any luck 😦

[night fox]

i wouldnt brake taht base to get the blessing. maybe later on when we get 500 bases

[restive latch]

It does lol

[signal turret]

Staffs to clear horde... Where's my siblings that relish in the opportunity to go melee

[empty granite]

Ok, that's fair. But consider that you aren't really supposed to be good at everything. It's a cooperative game, after all.

[ornate hamlet]

1987 I believe

[burnt tapir]

Left click is better to create space with purg staff, has more stagger. Couple Ls then a smol charge rmb

[dapper galleon]

Agreed, hence why it's kinda wierd the vet can literally do everything.

[empty granite]

They can't quickly clear a horde.

[arctic holly]

There's one thing the vet can't do

[bleak sonnet]

we can do everything too

[arctic holly]

We can't let down the emperor

Not ever

[grim bay]

Vet can even make my cat feel better

[teal needle]

Vet's def overtuned. Psyker is basically tied for second with everyone that's not vet lol

[grim bay]

but psyker can tell me what my dead grandma says

[ornate hamlet]

We can do everything except we're we're a bloody piece of paper

[empty granite]

Vets can HANDLE a horde, but it takes way too long to cycle through pushes, charge ups, few swings, repeat

[torpid hemlock]

best blessings for surge?

[dapper galleon]

Our brain burst needs a do over, talents as well

[night fox]

OK, so just a psa. If you use you ability while youre sliding, nothing will happen. ive been trying to pinpoint when does that happens and finally got it

[empty granite]

At least when you can purg staff a million dudes in 3 seconds

[signal turret]

This is going to sound like a meme... But the trick is not to get hit

Admittedly requires sweatiness on your part

[dapper galleon]

Powersword special in heavy attacks is brutal for clearing hordes

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not a sweat though

[ornate hamlet]

it is odd, they probably should have let players carry a ranged primary, melee, and ranged secondary tbh

[empty granite]

True. Just saying the void and purg can creat good space on their own

[burnt tapir]

Agree

[ornate hamlet]

What level do you get the void staff

[burnt tapir]

Surge I feel is terrible at creating space though

[solar loom]

Level 8 or 12 or something like that

[torpid hemlock]

20-ish

[signal turret]

Then you'll be made out of paper

[solar loom]

Oh, the Voidstrike one, yea, that's later

[burnt tapir]

Tiny right clicks don't kill anything and it piles up, bigger ones sometimes kill some things but not nearly fast enough

[empty granite]

It doesn't clear a horde fast enough though. A flamer or Purg staff or good tunnel for a void staff totally outkills a power sword

[ornate hamlet]

vet is not at all overtuned, psyker is just underpowered and zealot players don't know how to play the game

I'm only level 10

My favourite so far is vet

[empty granite]

Yeah, surge stalls the 6 coming at you while the ones behind get in front. Void and Purg at least stagger more

[dapper galleon]

Yea I love the void staff honestly, but charge time + vent time kinda slow you down compared to lasguns

[ornate hamlet]

there are two op things about vet, there is one feat that gives you infinite grenades, and there is the power sword, that is it

[dapper galleon]

Our class needs some tuning

[arctic holly]

Surge requires you to have a horde clearing melee

[ornate hamlet]

psyker needs buffs but vet doesn't need nerfs

[burnt tapir]

ye, watched on of my allies die earlier because I couldn't keep things off them fast enough. Really wished I'd had my purg

[teal needle]

Bruv get a voidstrike with the vent on headshot perk it literally costs negative peril to use

[ornate hamlet]

Vet with bolter is OP

[dapper galleon]

That would be the preferred outcome

[dapper galleon]

Will try it out

[empty granite]

It can be argued that the Power Sword could use some tweaks, but otherwise it's just an easy class and the numbers they get from their feats do slightly outclass others.

[signal turret]

Just makes you a better player overall imo because it requires you to be good at melee which carries over to every class

[arctic holly]

Bolter is balanced because it's too fun to shoot and you run out of ammo

[exotic kindle]

agreed

voidstrike does way too little damage

[teal needle]

Psyker needs more build options and fewer noob traps

[ornate hamlet]

vet isn't even the only class that can get a bolter

[signal turret]

Master block shoves, master slide dodging, achieve sweatlord apotheosis and you will be the clutcher of groups

[arctic holly]

Void strike deletes a line infinitely long in front of you

[grim bay]

@teal needle have you tried tank yet? most broken OP class in game for psyker. problem is people just spam 1 staff and dont try

[arctic holly]

Excluding walls

[grim bay]

master of block pushing AFK enemies

[ornate hamlet]

what makes vet significantly easier than zealot or ogryn

[empty granite]

I'm so dumb. I kept thinking weak spot meant spots that weren't headshots

[teal needle]

I'm tryin to fkn tell people lmao

[dapper galleon]

This ability of the force sword, the shove is great for hordes

[grim bay]

@teal needle im agreeing 😄

[arctic holly]

Tank?

[fresh vessel]

Bolter memeing everything to death is also a bit much.

[empty granite]

People overlook the push attack as well. It knocks one big target over heavily

[tacit delta]

I'm confused, what are you doing here

[signal turret]

Absolutely. It's like an additional challenge to not take 1 hit lol

[tacit delta]

and what ist he benefit of it

[dapper galleon]

Comes in handy if there's a berserker in the horde

[warped gust]

can more than one psyker brain burst the boss for malleus monstronum penance?

[signal turret]

Maneuverability, consistent shoves for horde management

[empty granite]

It's John Shooterman. Casual folks coming from other FPS games know how a Vet works from the get-go

[dim pier]

Slide dodging basically extends your dodge, and pushing especially with the force sword is a very good habit to get into

[ornate hamlet]

3 psykers in a match equal death though

[dapper galleon]

Would be nice if we had a sweep heavy to follow up though lol

[arctic holly]

I will disconnect of there are 3 psykers

[empty granite]

No. YOU need to do 90% of the damage with BB. Just you.

[tacit delta]

What is a way that you can do these slide dodges and pushes without destroying your finger? Do you guys rebind your keys? Set two controls to the same key?

[signal turret]

One day

[night fox]

if all 3 are holding BB like a pacifier then yeh.

[long wharf]

I was in a 3 psyker 1 zealot run (I joined via quickplay on malice)

it was... rough to be sure

[empty granite]

Practice turns into muscle memory, but key ergonomics works wonders.,

[signal turret]

I play with an Elite Series 2 controller, dodge and slide on the back paddles and then muscle memory

[long wharf]

we extracted with everyone on their feet, but not without a handful of last-man-standing-rush-to-revive situations

[dim pier]

I've just been doing it with default keys, space/ctrl for dodge/crouch

[long wharf]

I moved crouch to 'c'

[dapper galleon]

Got a heresy run with 3 psykers, running surge, pergatus and void strike staff + 1 vet.

Run was pretty smooth

[long wharf]

so that I can hit it while sprinting with shift

[night fox]

shift to sprint with the tip of your pinky, then push ctrl with your phalange

[ornate hamlet]

i find setting crouch and dodge to 'c' works well

[empty granite]

When I was doing open beta Penances on Heresy, two surge staves, a Void and a Purg staff let NOTHING touch us. (4 psykers)

[teal needle]

Dude how can any group comp have trouble on malice

[summer prairie]

finished a quickplay damnation run earlier with 3 psykers+bot, took forever though due to horde clear

[long wharf]

because nobody was really coordinating

[empty granite]

Newer people running into melee without knowing dodge and block mechanics.

[ornate hamlet]

sure I guess, the playstyle is more conventional, doesn't mean his feats are like amazing comparatively, and his ult is just shoot harder for a few seconds, which is totally reliant on having ammo, compared to the self sufficiency of zealots not die button and ogryn's ability to clear a horde or get out of a sticky situation

[tacit delta]

I see, I'll give this a go

[empty granite]

It can be difficult going from Uprising to Malice for casual players

[signal turret]

I've been seeing this on heresy enough post-release to reconsider my opinion on horde clearing

Once the horde starts people inability to be decent at melee shows

[empty granite]

I'd argue that an Ogryn can't clear a horde, but can control it for the rest of the party to kill

[dim pier]

Yeah I've noticed uprising to malice is what the most non-VT2 newbies have trouble with

[inland juniper]

when do I unlock a staff?

[dapper galleon]

Did they make damnation harder post launch? Or is it the toughness bug?

[dim pier]

For the VT2 group it's been malice to heresy on my end? But that was with the endless hordes bug

[ornate hamlet]

I'm pretty sure this is the reason why zealots think their class is bad 2bh

[empty granite]

It's not easy, necessarily, and people don't want to sweat on a game sometimes. It requires some micro

[teal needle]

I like keeping a tool for both hordes and elites in my kit unless I'm playing sweaty premade

[signal turret]

Yeah I get it, that's why im never going to be toxic about it to anyone because I know being a sweatlord shouldn't be expected

[sour bison]

how good is that?

[dim pier]

That stat package tho

[empty granite]

Not amazing, but decent. The Cloud Radius is a very important one since it controls the DISTANCE AND CONE

[viscid matrix]

good, get it

[void anvil]

this is what i want for christmas

[long wharf]

no, Zealots have to suffer with the toughness shenanigans

[burnt tapir]

Not bad but the cone is unfortunate

[teal needle]

Stats lackluster but perk good. Keep it to disenchant when the game comes out

[ornate hamlet]

By clear a horde, I mean clear a path, avoid getting blocked in, their damage potential definitely isn't greater than anyone else's(doesn't seem worse either though) but I've seen them clutch their way out of sticky situations because their class is good for, as you said, controlling it

[harsh copper]

what is the "Wounds" thingy on the trink?

[burnt tapir]

It's fine, double zealot runs went well last night for my group

[long wharf]

Ogryn can't "control" a horde, they can block a hallway, though

[dim pier]

Divides your health bar further so you can be downed more and lose less HP when downed

[long wharf]

that's not control though, that's blockading

[dapper galleon]

Good zealots just don't die

[long wharf]

making the horde go away, that is horde control

[ornate hamlet]

Veterans are currently taking bonus damage from toughness currently and zealots still think they have it worse smh

[burnt tapir]

Basically, my bud is pretty much always the last one up if we're going down

[proud hinge]

I literally got 4 legendary drops in a row

[empty granite]

Lucky.

[long wharf]

very, very lucky

[burnt tapir]

The rates are way better now

[sour bison]

so basically purgatus need to have as high as possible damage and cloud?

[teal needle]

Me too yesterday, I was wondering wtf was going on

[signal turret]

Stats on them kinda mid tho

[burnt tapir]

In two runs with 4 people, we got 3 legendary weapons

[long wharf]

and burn

[teal needle]

They were all lasguns though

[split elm]

yeah same

[rare maple]

Any idea whats max power level for weapons and curios?

[summer prairie]

what difficult were you running getting those drops?

[dim pier]

Yeah the item drop rate seems so much better post release

[split elm]

I've got 4 legendaries today

[signal turret]

But yeah, same. I have 5 legendary curios all from Emperor's Gift

[ornate hamlet]

No but really, zealots complaining about chip damage is what I mean, about them not knowing how to play, its a necessity to make melee combat more than mindless clicking, otherwise you'd just sit in a crowd clicking and get your toughness back as the enemy damages only it

[proud hinge]

3 lol

[teal needle]

Max stat level is 380, but can go to ~530 w pers and blessings

[empty granite]

Cloud Radius is most important to me. Damage is the rate at which burn stacks are applied and the burn is burn stack damage.

[summer prairie]

doesn't seem like difficulty matters much, if any

[gilded cave]

do people think the going out with a bang pennance is easier on heresy than malice because you get more specials to blow up?

[ornate hamlet]

Toughness is slightly helpful for melee but its meant primarily for stopping ranged damage, which is also why vet has the most

[long wharf]

Purge staff blast deals damage on its own besides stacking soulblaze dots

[teal needle]

Difficulty = gold and crafting mats

[signal turret]

I dont think it does either

[burnt tapir]

I could be misremembering but I thought the jsat vid said that burn controlled max stacks and stack rate

[stone sage]

3hr of waiting for a staff upgrade and all i get are guns and swords 😭

[long wharf]

he did, I watched that vid too

[acoustic spade]

The ogryn stereotype going strong

[ornate hamlet]

They totally can, almost every attack they have staggers or stuns and their ult is a large scale stun

[empty granite]

I might be mixing it up, but the damage stat DOES factor into the rate of burn stacks or something

[signal turret]

Welcome to the club lol

[acoustic spade]

"Oh look, theres this Daemonhost everyone is just ignoring, what if I use my Ogryn dash onto it"

[stone sage]

oh noooo

[ornate hamlet]

I only ever get 1 staff per reset

[empty granite]

Reference for Purg staff

[inland juniper]

when do I unlock my first staff?

[ornate hamlet]

That's not an example of the ult itself being bad...

[acoustic spade]

I never said that

[errant nimbus]

I have purple staves of every type but I still find my recon lasgun to be superior. Just procs kinetic flayer too well.

[rapid cypress]

15 i believe

[stone sage]

when you reach about level 3 is when i got my first bomb staff

[plush tendon]

if you inspect the staff you can mouse over the burn stat to see it's affect

[arctic holly]

Getting a free headpop every 15 seconds isn't remotely good

[hard breach]

How did you get a different skin for the surge staff?

[ornate hamlet]

Level 3 when I got my trauma staff

[signal turret]

Another sibling lost to the warp

[empty granite]

I haven't tried the Trauma staff since release, is it any better now or is it still ass?

[soft nest]

anyone know when we get the full access to customising our gear stats?

[arctic holly]

Ass

[long wharf]

nobody knows

[empty granite]

Is it similar to the chart?

[arctic holly]

I thought it was.confirmed beginning of december

[night fox]

yes, and yes. the AoE targetting is just bad

[arctic holly]

For crafting

[soft nest]

100h in beta and I just want to play with builds now....

[teal needle]

Trauma is less ass than it was before release but still very ass

[night fox]

but it feels like t does more dmg tho

[ebon sedge]

any1 here made pix and mix penance?

[long wharf]

that's all there really is to do in Darktide

[empty granite]

Bummer. I WANT to use it, but it feels so mediocre compared to the other staves

[errant nimbus]

Surge staff is best staff.

[empty granite]

Yeah. I did it when it was 10s instead of 12

[late moat]

Which is traumas right click again?

[empty granite]

Not easy in the slightest

[night fox]

Aoe Ground explosion

[arctic holly]

It can still stagger like a champ but it's just not that good overall

[late moat]

Oh…. Ick

[plush tendon]

yep - mine for example

[empty granite]

Hover over the damage one and post

[acoustic spade]

wish I had money

[errant nimbus]

Sorry I tired using forcesword and a staff together but I didn't like having two warp weapons at once. I use surge with duelling sword but recon lasgun with my forcesword.

[modest solstice]

is psyker a support class, someone keeps telling me it is, someone gets angry at them for being stupid, which one should i agree with

[acoustic spade]

but now if I go to do a mission it will take more than 26 minutes

[teal needle]

Pick and Mix : load chasm difficulty 4 or 5, bring the ultimate for faster bb feat, then pop 1 head ultimate then pop 4 more heads. Shotguns and gunners first then you can hit ragers once you got warp charges

[empty granite]

The burning intensity is something

[proud hinge]

Missions take 15-20 minutes

[acoustic spade]

hahahaha

no

[rapid cypress]

well we ain’t doin’ damage that’s for sure

[acoustic spade]

always like 35 minutes

[empty granite]

A 412 GREEN?? Go get money.

[acoustic spade]

nah thats a blue

[empty granite]

Sell everything

[acoustic spade]

357 statblock

[empty granite]

Oh

The Anointed text looks green

[empty granite]

I'm mad they changed the rarity names

[acoustic spade]

still kinda ok

[modest solstice]

i always though pskyer was a support, your main job is to weaken enemies and throw them into the void

[empty granite]

Psyker is flexible

[errant nimbus]

I always thought taking out armoured was the psyker job. My friends have a hard time killing ogs without me using kinetic barrage.

[night fox]

you aint throwing nobody to the void here, but you can CC them and make them vulnareble to dmg

[empty granite]

Can snipe with BB when needed. Can decimate hordes with right weapons. Can kill elites with Force Sword. Can CC very effectively.

[plush tendon]

eh, run the right build you can do decent damage. i've got force sword with deflector (and block cost reduction on curios) for armored targets/closing the gap, and flame staff for monsters/hordes

[inland juniper]

how do I use this blaze force sword lol it feels awful

[acoustic spade]

I wish the Daemonhost ping wasnt just an eye

[signal turret]

Description for things kill me sometimes lol. "+3% on repeated weak spot hits" +3% what...?

[acoustic spade]

and more of a sword with a giant X on it

so people wouldnt attack it when you ping it

[empty granite]

Special button empowers the force sword. Use that to one shot most elites

[errant nimbus]

Forcesword specializes in single target damage. It got no cleave.

[acoustic spade]

I'd have money for that Force Sword if not for that Daemonhost

[teal needle]

Psyker rn is horde clear, cc, or tank/clutch. Pick two basically

[night fox]

light attack->heavy attack->block push->repeat.
or you can evade dash instead of block

if you see an elite use the skill

[solemn violet]

I heard someone saying they used the Force Sword for the Cliffhanger penance, but it seems like it really doesn't do any knockback. Am I best off using the Trauma staff for that one?

[night fox]

with a heavy attack and land in on the weakpoint

[modest solstice]

i know the psyker doesnt pick up as a dps until rank 25 when you can get the free headpop trait

[empty granite]

The old Penance text specified that the Ability had to be used, so it heavily implied using F

[cyan echo]

You use the forcesword to tank the chasm walkway while the poxwalkers line up

then you use F at 100% peril to push them off

[night fox]

youre not a dps anywhere cause your DoT is too low to even compete and the void doesnt really does much fast enough either at t4+

[modest solstice]

but for lower levels with 1 or 2 elites in the mix, Psyker is amazing for just popping them, but it also doesnt help my main partner is a vet and can pop them first

[solemn violet]

Does F do more push if you're at higher peril?

[empty granite]

No

[cyan echo]

I think it does?

[signal turret]

map with the giant bridge, look off to the left hand side, there's a small railing. Trigger horde, run there, press F

[cyan echo]

When I use it at F it barely nudges mobs

[errant nimbus]

The free headpop is great for specials. I wouldn't call it dps though due to the time between uses.

[modest solstice]

do F when you are about to explode, it will clear it and you will survive

[solemn violet]

So like right at the start with the tanks on the bridge, before you drop down?

[solemn violet]

That's Chasm Terminus, right?

[empty granite]

Yeah, you can get a "free" get out of jail card if you purposefully get to 100%, then F to un-pop yourself

[night fox]

best map for this is espionage, and this is back when it was 20 withing 2 secs

[signal turret]

I dont know the name of any of the maps lol, all I do is quickplay

ill try to find a vid real quick

[honest island]

Does the "Free" brainburst from Kinetic Flayer cause Peril?

[night fox]

you can prolly do it anywhere now thats only 7 supposly

[empty granite]

Nop

[wet gust]

Oh Emperor... What did they do to the textures of Psyker neck?

https://i.gyazo.com/490a8d718a926e702df332c0a077ce84.mp4

[glacial abyss]

Guh

[errant nimbus]

No

[honest island]

Excellent news

[teal needle]

No. It will almost always get wasted on trash but it is free warp charges which is nice

[solemn violet]

Is that the one with the really thin girder bridge thing?

[modest solstice]

i have never liked trauma staff, its change is too small of area, it takes to long to get to max charge and it costs too much to actually cast

[empty granite]

Yeah, the central tower with thin catwalks

[honest island]

Yes, I understand the lack of control and cooldown. But still a win that it doesn't cause peril.

[ember kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis This is how I done it, no gear needed. I done this with 3 other people one after the other when it was push 20. Hope this makes it easier for you

[solemn violet]

Yeah I never use Trauma Staff if I can help it, but it has knockback so I figured it would be good for Cliffhanger

[empty granite]

I agree with all of that. The AoE circle should be like 50% larger

[night fox]

is the one that the icon is an eye. at the end last stand theres a very narrow bridge taht a horde 100% comes and you can block at the end and press F. youll prolly knock down like 30 like that in one push

[void anvil]

Voidstrike build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a6840fee-af48-49f7-b740-10a31cb5bf6b/psyker-void?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Purgatas build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/d47b185c-21f0-47f8-a3d1-ab02649fadd6/psyker-purge?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[wet gust]

Imperial Edition is a messy outfit... First the suit is under the cloth and the "helmet" is literally messing with the back of the head

[honest island]

When quelling, is slows movement speed. It seems that movement speed is faster when quelling with a staff. Is this true? If so, is the any need for Mind In Motion (When using a staff)

[modest solstice]

i always played Seiana in vermintide, so everything i do with psyker is gonna be compared to that.....Seiana's ground AOE Staff was amazing, her DPS with the flamethrower staff was also great....i dont think she had an electric style staff, and her fireball staff was good for single target bosses and good for wave clear

[errant nimbus]

Sienna 4th clas when?

[solemn violet]

I just want the Conflagration? staff? The one where you put a fire on the ground and it stays.

[errant nimbus]

I hear ya. I got 300+ hours in sienna. Play cataclysm difficulty regularly. I thought I'd like the staves in this game more but they just seem lackluster.

Except surge

[teal needle]

Bring kinetic deflection instead. Otherwise good build. For void strike

[left mirage]

either the auspex scan mission bugged out and spawned the thing a floor below, or the host of the lobby went up a floor instead of scanning like a dunce

[void anvil]

do you think the purge build looks good too?

[honest island]

No input on movement speed while quelling?

[teal needle]

Tbh I never use the staff and don't have an informed opinion

[stone sage]

To complete this
Do i need to use the explosion staff and kill 3 elites?
Or do i need to explode myself and kill 3 elites? (what is a Perils?)

[dim pier]

Staff quelling is faster than brain burst quelling but still slightly slower than normal walk speed

[teal needle]

It's a valid pick when running surge I guess

[wet gust]

Am I the only one around here disappointed with the Imperial Edition skin on Psyker?

[sour bison]

no

[night fox]

i would go for 111232 for purge

[solemn violet]

You have to blow yourself up

[honest island]

@dim pier That was my findings also
@sly pilot I have only played with surge so far. Is that because it is used more often than the other staves?

[night fox]

xxx1xx if youre using deflector forcesword

[empty granite]

You getting enough warp charges for the tier 1 first feat?

[teal needle]

I didn't buy imperial edition because I got the cunning of mork

[sour bison]

yes

[night fox]

everytime

just have it and forget they exist

[stone sage]

are you memeing me ? or is this real

[empty granite]

From passives or actively BBing?

[glacial abyss]

not too bad i just hate the bandana