psyker-class

[shut thorn]

Lmao is that a 2hit crusher staff on master

[silent wave]

idk, didn't mess with it tbh

[shut thorn]

Should

[silent wave]

i'll see about it tomorrow if I remember

[uneven marsh]

Because the God-Emperor hates you.

[silent wave]

ehh, shop reset I'll hop on real quick and check some stuff

[autumn marten]

First finished heresy mission woooooo

[uneven marsh]

Let me sing you the song of my people.

[autumn marten]

but yeah totally couldve been doing heresy sooner

[silent wave]

what diff do you want me to check on? heresy or damnation?

[shut thorn]

God emperor uses a power sword as a psyker, so idrc

[worn jewel]

We haven;t even gotten the modification system yet lol. Actual crafting will probably be months from now.

[last sleet]

Ooooh, they nerfed cliffhanger. Finally.

[sudden turtle]

Fuckin right lol

[shut thorn]

Fall off said cliff

The one penance that didn't need changing

And got you to actually learn maps

[uneven marsh]

and made the charge multiple ogryn penance more difficult. They also made "Just a Flesh Wound" for zealot easier.
But I went and cheesed it. IDK if it's still bugged but "under 10 minutes" was win OR lose

[olive ember]

that one was alright imo honestly, im still stuck on the "blow up 3 elites" and then the heresy challenges (pick n mix and solo boss)

[silver dagger]

can someone help me for 'Going Out With a Bang'

[shut thorn]

Malleus you just need 3 friends to do it

[warped linden]

i got that one by accident

[shut thorn]

a 4 psyker group with deflection fs on 3 of them can easily do a plague ogryn malleus

[warped linden]

i got to lightening happy one day and boom penance

[sudden turtle]

I think they made the boss one better

[olive ember]

I'm thinking about seeing if they can do the daemonhost instead

[shut thorn]

yeah you only need to do 90% of the dmg now

[last sleet]

I did the 3 elites on accident. 20 enemies push was a pain. Specially after they nerfed F to not throw over railings any more.

[shut thorn]

"only"

[silent wave]

unfortunately that voidstaff i got rolled terrifying barrage for it's first blessing

[sudden turtle]

I'd say you can provide get that shit on a daemonhost

[olive ember]

since the daemonhost doesnt' change targets so a single shield ogryn is all we need

[silent wave]

I'll still hold onto it though for when the crafting system is expanded

[polar gulch]

you just used the force sword, or do any of the staves have enough push for it?

[shut thorn]

Could do it easily with ogryn slab/psyker deflect fs tanking the dmg

[last sleet]

Still not getting my beta helmet tho. :/

[shut thorn]

Contact support

Or wait for inevitable fix

[olive ember]

Got this funny staff... only took 3 straight hours of grinding to get 1000 ranged scab kills before the reset

[shut thorn]

Would terrifying barrage ever proc though

[gray kelp]

btw, this staff solid? not sure how good stacking crit for it is

[boreal wave]

Yeah I always saw terrifying barrage as kind of a big L on staves

[stark nebula]

Too bad the blessings rolled low

[last sleet]

Getting these stats is nice now, but they're still hiding the crit rate.

[olive ember]

No clue but I got warp flurry which is all I rly care about

[silent wave]

it does 1309 to crushers on the head with a full charge

[shut thorn]

This is reminding me of the business card scene in american psycho ngl

[silent wave]

im bad and can't seem to hit more than one in a row though

[polar gulch]

let's see paul allen's staff

[cursive tartan]

so im trying psyker for the first time. is it commonly accepted that the force sword suuuuucks?

[shut thorn]

490 surge with all 90%

[cursive tartan]

or am i just using it wrong

[polar gulch]

...impressive. very nice

[safe briar]

the voices told me to tell you that they were told that the bigball staff is the worst one

[main wyvern]

You're using it wrong

[olive ember]

if you can get warp flurry when you consecrate it I'll be very jealous

[signal turret]

using it wrong

[hard breach]

I love my force sword

[shut thorn]

It used to be bad, now it's 11/10

[cursive tartan]

it has like no cleave

[shut thorn]

Special - > heavy attack - > normal heavy

[olive ember]

No clue I've only used the force sword because funny space wizard

[signal turret]

shove

dodge

[safe briar]

btw the voices also told me that the only valid build is the tank psycher

[silent wave]

also staves help with crowds

[shut thorn]

You can easily get 1.2-1.3k on a good fs roll with special heavy

[olive ember]

your horde clear combo on the force sword is light - heavy -push (push attack option), repeat

and yeah

also got this on my force sword no clue if its good

[unreal dust]

Remember Kids: In a pinch you can Push+shove Crushers for a Knockdown

[shut thorn]

No deflection

Ow

[safe briar]

I just spam lights until I get stanks on both sides, then I force push

[shut thorn]

That dmg tho

[olive ember]

yeah big rip on that but idk if any of the two traits are decent

[signal turret]

That would be dope if Superiority was swapped for Deflector

[shut thorn]

What's your max stack heavy special dmg?

Like 1.5k or smth?

[olive ember]

no clue lemee test it out

[unreal dust]

I'm actually really curious what you're using for curios

[iron flame]

Hope they buff brain burst for heresy and damnation.

If they worry about those thing being overpowered on lower difficulty why not just make brain burst do percentage damage?

[iron flame]

👀 I am guessing it is not mk2 version? Because for mk2 fs 2nd heavy is a smackdown

[olive ember]

just random gold qurios

[sudden turtle]

That shit looks like youd have crazy damge snowball lol

[olive ember]

only mk 2 blaze sword exists rn iirc

[shut thorn]

only for 2s though

[silent wave]

light>heavy is a double diagonal strike

[sudden turtle]

You could chain that up on trash tho

[unreal dust]

light>heavy is the pattern for almost every melee

[silent wave]

it goes into heavy 2 instead of heavy 1 if you follow up a light with it

[olive ember]

it can one shot a mauler on damnation assuming I can get the traits to proc

[iron flame]

Ohh... Rip me. I saw a decent one but saw that heavy 2 is a smackdown so I thought it is a different force sword

[shut thorn]

lmao

is it one shot crusher

[young summit]

any point in bothering with what weapon you use untill you get the later rep staffs?

[silent wave]

the attack descriptions are still pretty jank

[sudden turtle]

I just kinda tried them out as i went

[olive ember]

its a bit inconsistent actually, maybe i got lucky and crit

my sword is two shot mauler 3 shot crusher on damnation

[hard breach]

But at least we can see some stats now. I know some more then others reslly wanted that

[shut thorn]

Do you have bb on hit active

[silent wave]

okay it's impossible to hit a crushers head consistently with a voidstrike orb

[sudden turtle]

Pretty much got a different one every few levels

[shut thorn]

Rip

[mellow crescent]

I've been doing light-heavy-light, aiming for headshots and pushing when necessary.

[shut thorn]

The trick is to aim above their head

It's dumb

[silent wave]

even then it doesn't seem to work for me

[olive ember]

nope

[silent wave]

either way this staff either 2 taps them without stacks or it's very close

so having any would make it quite consistent

[shut thorn]

Epic

This on t4 or t5

[silent wave]

5

[shut thorn]

That's really good

[young summit]

unless your on gamepass and stuck on a older version 🤣

[silent wave]

yeah it does quite a bit of damage

[mellow crescent]

Wait, what did they change?

[shut thorn]

Damage scaling is linear/expo now

[silent wave]

damage scaling overall was changed

makes a lot of stuff better

[shut thorn]

It buffed force sword the most

Went from getting a max of like 800dmg on force sword to like 1.1k+

[olive ember]

Honestly my curios aren't that good, I just have em on cuz funny golds

[violet frost]

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[olive ember]

I mean grimoire res is meh

[violet frost]

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[olive ember]

though yeah I'm thinking of replacing atleast a couple wounds with max hp

[violet frost]

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[olive ember]

oh oof

[hard breach]

Fatshark b r u h

[violet frost]

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[olive ember]

having like 4 downs in heresy is cool and all but it doesnt mean much when your teammates pick up a grim and suddenly you only have one bar left anyways

[violet frost]

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[signal turret]

Wait what

[olive ember]

and I heard grims take away a set amount of hp at the start per class instead of %based, so maxhp might actually be more useful than grim resist

[violet frost]

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[signal turret]

[olive ember]

you can tell I had the 7/7 bug

since I spent the time to grind 165k to get a hood

and now I have a red hood which actually matches my armor but Its not masked since I don't have the stupid blow up 3 elites achievement ;-;

[polar fractal]

i am probably one of the very few that actually digs the beta helmet on the psyker

[last sleet]

?

[shut thorn]

There's a better version of it

[polar fractal]

give me that tony hawk's pro skater look

[shut thorn]

.

[hard breach]

Speaking of cosmetics zealot really got the drip in that shop right now

[olive ember]

I feel like the psyker beta helmet is too... egg shaped

smooth and round

[sudden turtle]

Fuck i swear it changes how his voicelines sound too

[young summit]

gamepass release of darktide was the older version without numbers for the statistics.

[silent wave]

force sword having unlimited dodges seems kind of silly

[gray island]

it does. it def changes ogren voice as well

[shut thorn]

Wait what?

[silent wave]

yeah it has unlimited dodges

[shut thorn]

Lmao

[last sleet]

My post was about missing info on crit.

[olive ember]

shhhh stop stop

[polar fractal]

i am in the fortunate position, that i think the drip we get from penances and the regular ingame store is at least decent

[olive ember]

I need to abuse dodge spam

[polar fractal]

so no class looks like absolute garbage

[sudden turtle]

Fuckk lol i like the ogren one too

[olive ember]

I mean imo the stuff you get from teh paid store for psyker looks trash lmao

[silent wave]

unlimited dodges

[devout halo]

is that new to the patch? or

[shut thorn]

Should stay that way

[young summit]

"Getting these stats is nice now" point was gamepass isnt getting them atm

[silent wave]

idk if it's new, but it's there

[shut thorn]

It is

[polar fractal]

the psyker panel in the cash shop is bugged for me anyway, i can only see the featured bundle lul

[hard breach]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/517426302257463317/1047630111056347257/image.png

What I went with

[silent wave]

wrong person i think lol

[gray island]

Opinions?

[sudden turtle]

Me fuckin too dude lol

[shut thorn]

Ehhhhh

[polar fractal]

yep rip

[silent wave]

but yeah unlimited dodges is nice but they feel pretty horrible because of the negative distance

[polar fractal]

the imperial edition stuff looking different from what was advertised is a bit raw imho

looked way better in the preview, at least for psyker

[olive ember]

Warp flurry is useful, but i think the one on the left is just better overall since faster charge, better resistance, faster quell

[hard breach]

Personally i like it

[shut thorn]

Neither of them are good tbh

[gray island]

what would you look for i nsurge?

[silent wave]

yeah it's pretty lame, i think for psyker it's a visual issue though as you can see some of the layers that are missing poking through the coat itself

[noble ridge]

What staff do y’all use? I’m on the fence about the shock one

[shut thorn]

Something with higher stats, all of those are below avg

[shut thorn]

Surge and void

Ran a few t5 missions with purgatus

[silent wave]

shock for CC, void for damage

[olive ember]

I'd say the one on the left is actually pretty good, the damage is lacking af but you aren't bringing a surge staff for the damage to begin with... like it takes 2 full charges to kill anything above a poxwalker even with 80% damage on like malice

[polar fractal]

the bullgryn paid mask has the face clipping through it for ogryn as well, no thanks kek

[shut thorn]

It's good for horde clear but useless for everything else

[noble ridge]

Ah

[stark nebula]

shock is incredible for CCing literally everything

[noble ridge]

So I shouldn’t want more damage with the shock, should just use for cc?

[sly marsh]

i tried using the void staff but i think im just ass, im goin back to purg :/

[silent wave]

a lot of helms are doing that, it depends on the face

[noble ridge]

That makes the staff make a lot more sense to me

[silent wave]

needs fixed regardless of the class it's on though

[shut thorn]

I guess, just seen far better rolls with better perks

[shut thorn]

Aim above a horde

[olive ember]

You can, and more damage doesn't hurt, but if you are planning on killing this with a shock staff, you might as well bring a purge staff or a voidstrike staff

[shut thorn]

Or specials

Void has extremely good dmg

[noble ridge]

Guys imma be honest with y’all

[shut thorn]

And the headshot box is pretty huge on void

[olive ember]

Btw best chance of getting the blow 3 elites up penance? Need that to get the red masked hood

[noble ridge]

Idk what staff is which outside of blast from sky, exploding ball, flames, and shock LOL

[gray island]

spam surge staff on diff 4

[sly marsh]

it felt super inconsistent for me for some reason, 50/50 either one taps or like no damage

[shut thorn]

void = ball
surge = lightning
trauma = clunky bottom ring thing
purgatus = rtx card crasher flame

[silent wave]

you can see the parts clipping on the coat in the marketing images for the armor, so i assume something went wrong and the armor is just clipping for some reason

[frail geyser]

Surge is elec, purge is fire and void is fireball

[sudden turtle]

I watched somethin where a guy got three maulers and blew up a few times

[sly marsh]

i think i just needa get more comfortable with the hitboxes

[frail geyser]

And trauma is bad

[noble ridge]

Wait

[shut thorn]

Purgatus does have a niche, you can remove participants by firing it into their face for long enough that their card shuts down their pc

[noble ridge]

So was having RTX on why my flame staff was crashing my game lol

[shut thorn]

Might not work anymore with the visual change though

[shut thorn]

Yes

[olive ember]

I mean Purge is good for hordes of enemies, and probably has the best elite dps if you can get close enough, heard it was nerfed from the early access beta tho

[noble ridge]

I haven’t crashed once since turning off RTX

Yeah that’s my issue with the shock staff, I don’t have strong enough anti horde

[shut thorn]

The issue is that if you have a vet running power sword the horde clear on it is pretty much useless

[noble ridge]

And I would swap to purgatus, but then my only real range is brain burst

So just trying to decide between those two which to use

[olive ember]

hence why I run surge

[shut thorn]

• void has similar horde clear, it just looks less flashy

[olive ember]

you can try the voidstrike staff, which has horde clear and range, just not the best at anything

[sudden turtle]

I mean shit if hes good you can have him kinda covering for specials and shit too

[shut thorn]

stun with surge - > switch to force sword - > normal light - > combo into heavy - > into light - > repeaet

[stone schooner]

What does rending do exactly?

[olive ember]

something something anti armor

[sudden turtle]

Lessens armor?

[sly marsh]

i also was struggling with warp charges with void, only relying on that 4% chance and bb feels rough coming from purg printing charges

[silent wave]

side by side if anyone cares

[shut thorn]

Kinda pointless on fs

Your special already does that

w/ 100%

[south monolith]

Improves your damage ratio against armor

[olive ember]

which is weird sine you do more damage hitting a mauler in the chest vs head still

[noble ridge]

Noted. Now to decide if flames or lightning is cooled

[shut thorn]

I generally play with a pretty good ps/plasma vet so I might be biased on the surge staff

[bitter hamlet]

Anyone else have a broken force sword? Can't activate secondary

[silent wave]

anyway i need to try and go to sleep, have a good one siblings, don't fight too much lol

[sudden turtle]

Understandable lol

[shut thorn]

Purgatus is only horde clear, it's not even peak horde clear considering power sword is honestly just better

[south monolith]

The Force Sword special already ignores armor so the rending does little to improve the ratio

[shut thorn]

Get a pocket veteran and you can run surge 24/7

[shut thorn]

As one should tbh

[still apex]

purgatus also scales into higher difficulty far better then then the others

[polar fractal]

the weird "checkered" grey cubes pattern is my main "issue" with the imperial edition cosmetic, regardless of class. I would much prefer just plain black. Looks like they went for some form of camo, which is poorly implemented and just looks bad. At least to me

[bitter hamlet]

I would offer heretical services if someone knows how to fix this

[shut thorn]

Surge disables 3 mutants from surprise killing you during daemonhost, surge disables 5x poxburster from deleting your team, surge disables 3x hound, etc

[sudden turtle]

For fuckin sure lol

[still apex]

surge CC drops off in efficacy in higher level missions

[lethal lagoon]

@bitter hamlet What exactly do you mean? You hold right click block, hold left click and no second push happens?

[shut thorn]

Not to an extent that matters

[bitter hamlet]

I mean I can't activate the secondary power attack/charge up

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

Re key bind it to X or something

[bitter hamlet]

other weapon secondary attacks work fine

[shut thorn]

You use fs to horde clear anyw on t4/t5

[still apex]

i disagree, unreliable CC is no CC

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, no clue then

[shut thorn]

Get a surge staff with a better charge rate

[versed spade]

Which staff is better to take for heresy+?

[shut thorn]

void or surge

[torpid hemlock]

Fs is awful for horde clear lol

[lethal lagoon]

I've regretted taking a surge staff on some missions, I've never regretted taking my infinite peril voidstrike.

[still apex]

it's the resistance scaling on mobs that is the issue, not the charge rate

[shut thorn]

light->heavy

[torpid hemlock]

Void or purgator rlly…

[olive ember]

its funny because everyone says different answers, i know a group of people here who swears by the purge, but a bunch of people also swear by the surge and the voidstrike

rly depends on the team

[torpid hemlock]

Surge is very good for specials and range but doesn’t have as much killing power

[lethal lagoon]

No one is talking about their perks either, that'll make a huge difference.

[torpid hemlock]

Too much downtime and peril usage

[lethal lagoon]

If you get bad rolls on surge or voidstrike it'll seem much worse

[shut thorn]

This, if you have a vet that you regularly play with though then it's not an issue

[versed spade]

We have 2 vets, psyker and zealot

[sudden turtle]

No one ever says force

[shut thorn]

surge

[torpid hemlock]

Depends on your playstyle and squad needs really yeah

[south monolith]

Can purge actually crit? I think with traits and perks it could crit to get extra burn up

[still apex]

i hate all the staves, and was hanging out for cool pistols to use with the sword... but Fatshark lied about weapons on release so...

[olive ember]

we have two zealots, a vet, a ogryn, and im a psyker, so some combination of 3 frontlines + psyker or 2 frontlines + powersword vet + psyker

so yeah surge staff is def the way for me

[shut thorn]

It can now

[south monolith]

That is what I heard and also good news for another build I can try

[shut thorn]

If you have an ogryn running slab, void might be better than surge

[torpid hemlock]

Yeah purgator or surge sounds about right both have great stun/stagger

[lethal lagoon]

Void behind a shield ogryn is so satisfying

[olive ember]

So is purge behind a shield ogryn

[torpid hemlock]

Issue with void is you have to aim it which is cringe

[shut thorn]

My gripe w/ PURG* is really the lack of any range, issue is compounded by really bad bb damage on heresy/damn

[olive ember]

but my group also despises dogs and bursters and surge helps with that

[still apex]

purgatus also works well with a few of the soul blaze feats

[olive ember]

yeah running surge means you are full support which is kinda suck

[versed spade]

Shield ogryn is for ironbreaker enjoyers I presume

[shut thorn]

Shield ogryn is good no matter the team comp

[olive ember]

wasn't there talk from people about how surge was gonna get buffed to hit more targets or what not

[lethal lagoon]

I'd love some curios for BB damage or something, everything avaiable is just so lackluster for a squishy psyker who will be squish no matter what

[torpid hemlock]

This is my gripe with it, I love how it looks and feels but feel like I may as well just be using a stun baton lol

[shut thorn]

I'm not aware of such statements by any devs nor anyone who was in the creator test beta

[noble ridge]

Me watching myself do 2% damage to a monstrosity after charging for 3 seconds and using half my warp

[olive ember]

idk i heard somewhere in this discord but meh i'll believe it when I see it yea

[torpid hemlock]

Left click on staves on 4+ is quite useless anyway so downsides of purgator don’t really bother me

[bitter hamlet]

torrent lasgun + brainburst and warp stacking seems to be optimal

[shut thorn]

Idk, purgatus has great horde clear, just don't see much use out of that considering almost everyone in damnation has some form of horde clear/space maker

[noble ridge]

More I look at these staffs and feats the more I think this class needs some love lol

[torpid hemlock]

I like the quick LMB stagger too on approach

[south monolith]

I would also like to report that investing into block as much as possible is absolutely silly. You are able to block better than WCH from VT2 and can even tank Daemonhosts.

[lethal lagoon]

@shut thorn Ogryns tank and Zealots and Veterns almost always just rush elites. That's really not the case, at least in pubs t4/5

[noble ridge]

I ran a mission earlier with the shock staff and ran back from one horde to quell and then there’s another right behind me. I just accepted my fate

[shut thorn]

This class needs a dedicated cleave force melee

[polar fractal]

I dread going into higher difficulties than 3 on my pskyer, ngl. I won't give difficulty 4 a go before i am a least level 25 i reckon anyway. But i am having such a blast on difficulty 3 and i fear that my enjoyment of the class gonna take a hit on higher difficulties. On my level 30 Ogryn, that luckily isn't an issue. Since i play the Big Man as a Support Character first and foremost anyway

[still apex]

do you have a block-a-matic Force Sword?

[noble ridge]

I don’t ever feel like playing damnation so I don’t worry about it

[polar fractal]

As psyker, i just want to blow things up and not be reduced to a CC Bot 😕

[shut thorn]

I don't really run pubs so ig

[torpid hemlock]

Tbh with purg psyker becomes the best horde clear in the game just for the unlimited stagger

[olive ember]

Psyker as a class will feel alot better with lvl 30 imo if you want to go heresy+

[torpid hemlock]

I’m not rlly prepared to give that up it’s so mf useful

[noble ridge]

Yeah I think I’m gonna stick with purgatus staff

I’m no cc monkey

[olive ember]

the ability which increases the speed of bb rly gives him a burst option on like a crusher

[noble ridge]

I wanna see stuff BURN

[shut thorn]

Ngl I'd still use void over purg

[torpid hemlock]

It’s very satisfying to just nuke groups of enemies

[south monolith]

Yes. I have 39% block efficiency and some extra stam for when peril gets to high. A bit more investment should let me even tank threat 5 daemonhosts. Bullets mean nothing to me.

[shut thorn]

Unless I want to crash someone who has rtx on

[lethal lagoon]

Purgatus just feels like a weaker Zealot, hence I've never liked it.

[torpid hemlock]

Ewww now you’ve just gone over the line we don’t believe in aiming here

[shut thorn]

You don't have to, it has a gigantic headshot hitbox

[versed spade]

Also BB is kinda useless on difficulty 4+, you can't even kill a hound.

[torpid hemlock]

Imagine needing ammo how cringe

[sudden turtle]

Oh yeah shit that block for peril trait right?

[noble ridge]

Yeahhhh I don’t wanna aim

[shut thorn]

You can aim centre mass on most enemies and void will still headshot

[noble ridge]

I usually play on controller so I can lean back and chill

So a flamethrower seems ideal

[shut thorn]

Controller T4/T5 sounds insanely painful

[noble ridge]

I haven’t ran any T5 and don’t plan to

I’ve ran a couple heresy

Level 18 rn

[shut thorn]

Idk if you even can with a controller

The constant dog/mutant/poxburster spawns on controller sounds kinda iffy

[still apex]

only psyker kit I'll take into t4/5 is recon las and force sword with that block bullets perk. In Pugs it's sometimes the only way to close with a bunch of ranged enemy

[noble ridge]

At a certain point it just becomes annoying to play

[south monolith]

Yup, High Force Sword warp resistance with curios block efficiency and deflector goes hard. Add extra stam and regen and you don't have to ever worry. I don't even have the max stam or any regen yet.

[noble ridge]

And I don’t even like heresy that much

Hounds taking two brain bursts just kinda annoys me

[shut thorn]

One void ball deletes hound

[polar fractal]

that is my main issue with the class atm, ngl. I have yet to experience it myself, but having to use multiple BB for even a hound compared to the one and done deal from diff 3 has to feel awful

[torpid hemlock]

That’s a nice build but it’s such a waste of utility for this class

[tall mango]

banned, no guns allowed

[noble ridge]

Yeah I’ll play D4/5 when I can one tap hounds with brain burst the way the emperor intended

[torpid hemlock]

Just ult with level 30 feat and annihilate the dog

[still apex]

meh, I'm not going to burn better then a flamer

[tall mango]

No shirt
No shoes
No staff
No server

[torpid hemlock]

Burst his head off at light speed

[sudden turtle]

That satisfying pop

[noble ridge]

White flames are a lot cooler thoug

[tall mango]

or simply dodge the dog and hit it with your force sword

[sudden turtle]

Precharged as he pops his head around the corner lol

[torpid hemlock]

Use surge staff then lol, purgatus has infinite ammo and no reload speed consider that though

[wind plume]

force sword special is like BB but better xdd

[ornate hamlet]

who cares if the flamer zealot is better, the more flamethrowers the better

[tall mango]

honestly

[shut thorn]

Has anyone tested if shield still caps dmg on force sword heavy special?

[tall mango]

it does more damage sometimes so yeah

[noble ridge]

Dodging dogs is so inconsistent.

[noble ridge]

Yep

[still apex]

i tried running the purg and surge... they are just too cumbersome compared to a flamer

[sudden turtle]

Purge them in as many types of holy fire you can get

[tall mango]

normal swings do enough dmg to shield no need to do all that

[torpid hemlock]

What does that even mean lol

[polar fractal]

especially in the current janky ass state the poxhounds are in. They are literally all over the place, if the team doesn't manage to instantly kill it once it pounces on someone, gg. I can take care of them just fine on diff 3

[still apex]

and that's not even starting on stun grenades

[sudden turtle]

I mean the charge is basically like the set up time of flamer

[still apex]

i mean they are bad support weapons compared to the other options

[versed spade]

According to my feelings, between 3 and 4 difficulty, another one was lost. Difficulty 3 is too simple with a 30lvl character, on 4 you have to try very hard not to lie down the whole team from ordinary poxwalkers

[frail geyser]

You dont charge surge

[shut thorn]

Surge is defo not bad, it's just mind numbingly boring

[noble ridge]

Yeah it’s just annoying and not really fun when the best way to kill these rapidly moving targets is a lock on attack, but that attack takes two charges? Nah no thanks

[tall mango]

The spike in difficulty is too much imo

[torpid hemlock]

How is being able to stun all specials or unlimited stagger most enemies bad support weapons compared to others lol

[shut thorn]

You can electrocute the dog and hope it gets stuck looping the anim

[still apex]

it's fine at t3, after that it's hit and miss, I'd rather have a zealot nade going off

[sudden turtle]

Does it seem like when you tag something its easier to brain burst?

[noble ridge]

Or I can stay on D3 and more hordes and pop him when he runs around the corner

[shut thorn]

There's probably lock priority for tagged enemies

[torpid hemlock]

Zealot nade is nice but then that’s just ignoring psyker’s brain burst utility

[tall mango]

Voidstrike is one of the best horde clearers from what i’ve seen

[sudden turtle]

I've dodge a few dogs and theyve fell into holes lol

[still apex]

and ammo is so abundant that runnig out of grenades isn't really a thing

[torpid hemlock]

Let’s him be horde clear and elite killing at same time

More of a jack of all trades

[sudden turtle]

I wanna change my mark button to mouse wheel up lol

[torpid hemlock]

Like vet

[shut thorn]

Reminds me, I hope they don't fix dogs flying into the sky if you electrocute them the moment they latch unto someone

[sudden turtle]

Fuckin ping everything always

[tall mango]

although Vet does elite killing faster

[torpid hemlock]

Great feature

[wise pecan]

Unfortunately, tagging an enemy also summons the vets to shoot it. Like cats to a laser pointer lol

[sudden turtle]

Oh fuck yeah I love that lol

[shut thorn]

It's honestly funny when they're high up in the skybox just unable to do anything

[torpid hemlock]

If you need something desd quick just ult with kinetic barrage

[still apex]

no no, I mean zealot can handle CC while a psyker can deal well with ranged enemies... even in large numbers, thankd to deflector

[shut thorn]

Honestly can we all agree, force sword is best melee

[torpid hemlock]

Most definitely

[hard breach]

Hey if they kill the specials means i don't have to. Can focus on helping the team with other things instead

[shut thorn]

If you run dueling sword you're trolling

[torpid hemlock]

Just objectively Is best

[sudden turtle]

So does that block trait work against ranged?

[still apex]

once you get the cleave combo's down, can't beat it

[wise pecan]

I like chainsword moveset more. Force sword is very vertical

[shut thorn]

in PB force sword wasn't as good as it is now so dueling sword actually had a dodge niche, now force sword has unlimited dodges and 1.1k+ on heavy special

While you get a 6-10dmg stab on dueling sword for uh.......?????

[wise pecan]

I haven’t tested the force sword since the beta ended

[still apex]

light attack - heavy attack. reset with block shove

[sudden turtle]

Yeah I remember first getting force sword and not liking it

[polar fractal]

it does. Holding block while reviving came in clutch multiple times already for me

[hard breach]

They actually me our own special weapon viable. Feels good ngl

[sudden turtle]

Ahh so the old v2 strats

[safe mountain]

Yes it does. Anything that would go to your block stamina goes to peril instead

[sudden turtle]

Ez pz

[shut thorn]

Also force sword with peril block and high warp resistance makes you as tanky as an ogryn

[unkempt juniper]

i have yet to see a single force sword with the block ranged trait in my shop, not one

[sudden turtle]

That sounds super good and I'm not using it lol

[unkempt juniper]

im a little upset ngl

[wise pecan]

P sure you don’t need to hold block while reviving, though admittedly I’m not sure if that applies to deflected bullets

[wise pecan]

Same

[still apex]

yes and it's huge.... you can push your peril up, then regen a mass of toughness using the Force Shove

[unkempt juniper]

i've even been buying green and grey force swords and upgrading themjust to get that one talent

i have like 6 force swords in my inventory right now

[south monolith]

Blocking deflects bullets with the trait.

[shut thorn]

Deflector should be default

[unkempt juniper]

HOLY SHIT

[sudden turtle]

High key lol

[unkempt juniper]

shop just reset! finally found one

[hard breach]

If they could unlock rest of crafting that'd be great

[shut thorn]

lmao

[still apex]

oof... i've got maybe 4 or 5 of them from the shop. Very lucky

[rotund oxide]

wait whats the trait called? the fs block one

[devout halo]

LOL

[shut thorn]

deflector

[rotund oxide]

ty

[safe mountain]

Never had one in the shop either but I saw a green and was like let's upgrade this one and hope for deflector...

[south monolith]

With some investment into block you can be the best combat medic

[shut thorn]

1# most important trait for force sword, entirely changes the gameplay of it

[unkempt juniper]

its not terrible either

[wise pecan]

Yeah I just meant I’m not sure if you actually need to be holding block for that or if the revival autoblock also does it

[noble ridge]

Wait you can block while rezzing…?

[still apex]

yes

[shut thorn]

80% mobility lmao

[noble ridge]

WTF

imma boutta have to get out of bed and back on

[shut thorn]

remember it has unlimited dodges now

lol

[south monolith]

Autoblocks, but I still hold it hold it because I don't trust anything lol

[rotund oxide]

op

[wind plume]

you automatically block while rezzing

[vivid merlin]

you automatically block while rezzing if your melee weapon is equipped

[wise pecan]

I think mobility still affects dodge range

[noble ridge]

Oh

I never have my melee equipped so that explains

Oops

[still apex]

yes, you get far larger dodges with higher scoe

[frail geyser]

Well stop that cus the force sword rules

[south monolith]

It will do it with your staff out, even bullets

[polar fractal]

yes. A real gamechanger

[sudden turtle]

Has to be a blue sword then right?

[wise pecan]

Ehhh, I think you still autoblock with your gun out

[shut thorn]

wait this has +8% on specials too with 80% dmg

[gray kelp]

anyone test how much mileage you get out of block efficiency w/force sword? wondering if I should try and stack it on all my curios

[shut thorn]

and 71% first target

Lmao I think that's the best force sword posted so far

Hopefully it gets good perks and blessings

[unkempt juniper]

it is pretty good

[left briar]

what's so good about the voidstrike staff?

[stark nebula]

Does anyone know if the Stagger values change if full charged vs quick cast?

[gray island]

DAMAGE

[shut thorn]

highest dmg ranged* psyker weapon

and has good horde clear

[sudden turtle]

Id def say

[tall mango]

damage, piercing through an entire horde, low peril cost

[sudden turtle]

Higher charge more cc

[left briar]

do you charge or no?

[still apex]

not bad, maybe a higher finesse would be good, but you'll be able to evade like a mofo

[shut thorn]

they do

[stark nebula]

kk thnx

[shut thorn]

you always full charge on void

[unkempt juniper]

first upgrade is +1 stam, not great not terrible

[polar fractal]

voidstrike just feels satisfying af to use, because big damage. At least on difficulty 3, have yet to see how it fares on difficutly 4+. Apparently it is more viable to be a CC bot with surge staff on those, but i will wait until i see that for myself

[tall mango]

you can charge if you want more damage and stagger

[shut thorn]

ouch

[left briar]

im still kinda inclined to surge staff

[tall mango]

Trust me

[left briar]

the quick stun is too valuable

[tall mango]

once you use voidstrike

[stark nebula]

I wasnt sure if it was better to spam cast or full charge blast to keep CC going

[tall mango]

you’ll never go back

give it a try

[shut thorn]

(unless you have a pocket vet)

[south monolith]

I use void on 4, if I had bonus damage to Infested and Unarmored I know 100% it won't have issues in threat 5

[torpid hemlock]

Any staff can be made to work if you really want it to (apart from trauma lmao)

[gray kelp]

too bad the damage roll is kinda ass on this

[torpid hemlock]

I tried it and still use purgator 😤

[devout halo]

trauma staff gamers have big dicks, can confirm

[frail geyser]

Id feel better about voidstrike if the general playerbase understood dodging and blocking

[sudden turtle]

Id say you can small charge trash pretty well but the tougher stuff def full

[shut thorn]

Yeah, trauma got significantly buffed damage but it's still the only staff with parkinsons

[south monolith]

First target matters lot too

[unkempt juniper]

still buy it, later you will be able to take traits off weapons and put them on others

[bleak tulip]

skill issue

[still apex]

yeah right... one day

[devout halo]

wait they buffed trauma? i didn't see it in the patch notes

[frail geyser]

Full charge is not really worth

[sudden turtle]

Trauma was buffed?

[unkempt juniper]

one day in 2023

[shut thorn]

The scaling did wonders for it's dmg

[hard breach]

We at full release. Y NO full crafting fs

[still apex]

if we can put Cleave perks on a Force Sword I'll be happy

[devout halo]

what scaling?

[sudden turtle]

I kinda liked how that one worked I might try it out

[unkempt juniper]

you know what change trauma really needs? the AoE indicator should indicate the max damage area as well as the minimum damage area

[shut thorn]

dmg scaling used to be logarithmic, now its linear/expo

[south monolith]

It doesn't matter what they do to staves if the shop only has laser tag guns

[bleak tulip]

the current state of the game should be explanation enough

[shut thorn]

this is pretty much why force sword is 1# melee now in the game

[devout halo]

ah pog

[devout halo]

LOL

[shut thorn]

some people have gotten rolls that do 1.5k dmg on heavy special

[still apex]

wait what!?! When did the scaling change?

[shut thorn]

release

[frail geyser]

Today

[tall mango]

no wonder i’m somehow doing more damage to the bosses

lmao

[shut thorn]

it's why purgatus is doing actual damage in heresy/damnation now

[still apex]

ugh.. i have covis so not playing

[shut thorn]

it's why void is two hitting crushers

[tall mango]

Get well soon

[vivid merlin]

oh wow does that mean purgatus is a good staff now

[tall mango]

Yes

[pine iris]

just now: got a pergatus out of the blind items. 315ish. accidentally had it in my loadout next match on malice. Loved it and understood how to use it first time touching it.

Psyker complainers are bad at Darktide confirmed

[tall mango]

all staffs are good aside from trauma

[shut thorn]

yes if you dont have a vet w/ ps

[vivid merlin]

what about the soulblaze

[south monolith]

Tbh my forcesword damage didn't seem like it changed.

[vivid merlin]

does that scale less dumbly too

[frail geyser]

Explains why my surge staff felt a lil more killy today

[gray kelp]

cleared malice insane gamer tbh

[tall mango]

Soulblaze is real

[shut thorn]

trauma has very high damage now, it's just clunky to use

[tall mango]

The high peril makes it not worth imo

[shut thorn]

either bad roll or not using heavy special attacks

[tall mango]

just use voidstrike

[vivid merlin]

@devout halo im calling you out

[sudden turtle]

soulblaze good now?

[small egret]

Purgatus with a full soublaze build solos hordes no problem whatsoever

[shut thorn]

yes, it can crit now too

[tall mango]

Voidstrike can wipe out a horde with way less risk

[sudden turtle]

Oooo

[tall mango]

is nice

[shut thorn]

But as others are saying and as I am saying

Void can do the same while

Having peak (non clunk) damage

[pine iris]

I do have a soul blaze build, good point

[tall mango]

However

[sudden turtle]

Fuck I wish my rig wasnt a literal trash can

[small egret]

But does it look as cool?

[tall mango]

soulblaze looks cool as fuck

[tall mango]

imo yes

[still apex]

wait, so does BB now do respectable damage in higher tier missions?

[sly marsh]

is that bc of your blessings or somethin? my void staff hits like a noodle on most elites and specialists

[shut thorn]

Trauma apparently outdamages void but it's so weird to use

[tall mango]

everything looks cool

[tall mango]

No

[proven raven]

I'm personally waiting for a force greatsword so I can go that and laspistol with a soulblaze build

[devout halo]

trauma will never not be bis

[pine iris]

soul blaze softens up mobs fast

[worn jewel]

I've stockpiled a ton of traits to make this possible

[shut thorn]

A guy here has a void staff with everything like 70-80% and a buncha dmg blessings

Forgot who

His staff two shots crusher on damnation

[worn jewel]

Once they release full modifications; soulblaze is going on every staff lol

[sudden turtle]

Just look up to get more range on trauma right?

[tall mango]

lucky sibling

[bleak tulip]

[sly marsh]

bro what

[south monolith]

Was doing 1544 damage before and it does 1542 now.

[tall mango]

L

[dusky cedar]

ew

[worn jewel]

That should not exist

[sudden turtle]

Oof

[small egret]

Jesus that's hard to look at

[shut thorn]

Sorry can you replace the sliders with alien letters please

[tall mango]

deflector is great but that damage is

[bleak tulip]

that damage roll, man you gotta shelf that until they let you reroll that

[signal turret]

That damage stat gives me physical pain

[shut thorn]

And yeah that damage is

Awful

[tall mango]

i feel bad for you

[sudden turtle]

Lmao

[tall mango]

genuinely

[turbid slate]

Imagine having a Force Sword with Deflector

[pine iris]

hahaha why

[south monolith]

First target carries quite a bit tbh

[worn jewel]

Please tell me you didn't spend diamantine to make this transcedant

[shut thorn]

😎

[pine iris]

that will be stripped for parts day 1 of crafting

[tall mango]

I’ve gotten ONE force sword since level 10

i’m level 22 💀

[bleak tulip]

like even with slaughterer I don't think you can compensate that low of a damage roll

[turbid slate]

Don't worry. It wont get better

[shut thorn]

He is doing 1.5k dmg though

[tall mango]

Fantastic

[shut thorn]

Shame it's a wet noodle against hordes

[south monolith]

1544 on mauler body

[tall mango]

at least i have my voidstrike staff

[small egret]

That's where purgatus comes in

[south monolith]

I only need 17 % damage to onshot maulers on T5

[rotund oxide]

i swear they ard so rare

[shut thorn]

Nah that's where pocket vet on a leash comes in with power sword

[signal turret]

Damage stat so low the warp whispers sweets nothings into the ears of dregs hoping they leave u alone

[pine iris]

I didnt know there was a blocks shots blessing. awesome

[shut thorn]

Imagine being a psyker without your very own dedicated veteran, can you even call yourself a psyker at that point?

[worn jewel]

its not that good unless you go all in on it with the feat

two bursts and your stam is gone

[signal turret]

Pair it with Kinetic Deflection and its ridiculous. You know Ogryn's aren't interrupted when rezzing but they can still damage?

[pine iris]

does it look cool? it has to look cool

[signal turret]

Well youre basically immortal when rezzing

[south monolith]

Get 40% block eff and give zero fucks

[small egret]

Look playing pubs as psyker is a nightmare. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Oh? You want a headpop? Fuck entirely off both your veterans are competing for most kills and you're in their way

[signal turret]

Don't bb

[pine iris]

I think I want to pay someone to level me an Ogryn

[worn jewel]

Who even BB in pubs lol

[surreal gust]

2 Ogryn 2 Psyker

[turbid slate]

Kinetic Deflection?

[surreal gust]

This is the way

[pine iris]

I just want to see what proper play of Ogryn looks like lol

[proven raven]

look using Psyker for brain burst is bad, and that's just because brain burst is bad

[wet finch]

dont BB the first target in front of you, target further

[shut thorn]

Just find an abandoned vet

[pine iris]

looks/feels

[signal turret]

Level 20 Psyker feat. Use peril to block instead of stamina

[sudden turtle]

Lots of pushing

[devout halo]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

i bb in pubs and i get the kills

[wet finch]

Stop fucking whining, BB is strong even on damnation

[small egret]

Yo true I'm gonna start doing that, if I get flamed in this server tho you know my job is done

[hard breach]

If this was the case i'd not bother i'd do the things they don't. I run passive warp charge gain anyway

[signal turret]

You've never done a T5

[shut thorn]

Why BB when I can just equip void strike

[turbid slate]

I hardly ever use BB anymore.

[worn jewel]

There are so many bolter monkes and plasma pugs to deal with the elites. You either stun or you set things on fire. BB is trash.

[wet finch]

i see XD

[small egret]

I mean that's what I do on anything lower than heresy with my purgatus soulblaze build, works wonders

[pine iris]

Everyone obsessing about BB damage are forgetting it's a super power in a combat game

[signal turret]

Any Psyker that claims to make consistent use of BB in T4/T5 is trolling

[shut thorn]

Veterans* have high aggression towards psykers, you're gonna have to lure them in with surge cc monkey gameplay

[signal turret]

might as well put them on ignore instead of take ez bait

[shut thorn]

The warp is causing me to trip over my words

[small egret]

cerebral lacerations

[shut thorn]

This is what surge gameplay does to you

[light quail]

what's BB?
im only lv 15 on psyker rn

[tall mango]

proof?

[sudden turtle]

Brain burst

[shut thorn]

brainburst

[tall mango]

brain hurts

[sudden turtle]

G

[wet finch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwUm7hxrVqI

[shut thorn]

Why would you use bb at any difficulty ngl

[light quail]

brainburst I find tricky as hell to use
absolutely taking the one that gives you a chance for warp charges on kill

[shut thorn]

Voidsstrike does hiVoidstrike always does higher dmg

[wet finch]

Go look at any yt vid about damnation, do they use BB alot? Yes.

[sudden turtle]

You pre charge at all?

[small egret]

When you don't have a veteran and the zealot is screaming and crying over the tripple sniper spawn on the other side of the map

[shut thorn]

This person can be forgiven for not using fs since its pb

[light quail]

only for hounds and other specials I can hear coming, otherwise no

[shut thorn]

You mute and ignore zealots, it's lore accurate that way

[worn jewel]

I still use Brain Burst way too often and should spam the staff more. But in this game, we had another Psyker doing the spamming already.

The dude himself says its bad

[pine topaz]

what's the feat combo that involves the 6 warp stacks?

[small egret]

No I can't, I picked the french psyker voice it wouldn't be lore accurate

[light quail]

in terms of staffs, the force staff that has the ball you launch is so fun

[signal turret]

I watched 30s of that vid and dude is legit being useless jumping around doing basically nothing but tossing terrible bb's out

[sudden turtle]

I just kinda try to spam mark at somethin I'm tryin to bb

[shut thorn]

who didn't pick it

[wet finch]

literally says in the desc: BRAIN BURST: Still love this ability, feels very rewarding. Good to pick off straggling elites/specials. Good to open up Bulwarks and stagger firing Reapers.

[tall mango]

literally said why it’s bad lmfao

GG

[weary wasp]

Did you play vermintide? Kekw

[shut thorn]

your alternatives is some hag from birmingham* and a polack

[tall mango]

pick off STRAGGLERS

Bolt gun doesn’t leave stragglers

gg no re

[sudden turtle]

Does it still have the cock up on switch?

[light quail]

thats all i use it for too: absolutely dunking on specials

[pine iris]

I wish the directional sound was a little wider. I can't always tell where things are coming from and often lose the sound of my team. There are amazing 3d audio VSTs, I wonder how it's done in Unreal

[analog juniper]

Siblings, how does one achieve this? I must know

[novel bridge]

How does the psyker do in melee?

[polar gulch]

tfw no scottish accent that keeps yelling about lumberfoots

[dawn sphinx]

I do like the perk for the force sword that allows you to block bullets. That in combination with using peril to block before stamina makes it really, really good!

[sudden turtle]

Lmao

[tall mango]

very well with the force sword

[shut thorn]

You know what else works far better for all these scenarios? 2 seconds of charging up voidstrike

[tall mango]

otherwise..ehhhh..

[light quail]

pretty good
force sword ftw

[novel bridge]

Even on higher difficulties?

[wet finch]

hitting a moving hound with void? yeah right

[sudden turtle]

Having an incomparable mind

[tall mango]

Yes

[signal turret]

I dont think he watched that vid himself, just picked the first thing he found lol

[tall mango]

force sword is good even on higher difficulties

it’s one of the best melees imo

[pine iris]

and try a higher level duelling sword. great on hordes

[novel bridge]

Fantastic! I'll give that a go

[sudden turtle]

No wait thats a zelot

[small egret]

Force sword is beast, too bad my force sword sucks super hard compared to some of the ones I have seen

[shut thorn]

Yes, the headshot hitbox on void is bigger than most corridors in the game

[light quail]

I find the catachan swords do good on psyker too, just for the CC

[frail geyser]

Fs better for cc

[tall mango]

very good cleave, strong heavy attack and special attack melts high health targets

[frail geyser]

Push is god

[polar fractal]

it will all get better, once we finally have access to all the crafting

[worn jewel]

Only reason it even works is because theres another psyker doing the actual cc work. Replace him with another Vet and the run would go even better.

[polar fractal]

right now it is rngesus bonanza

not a fan

[shut thorn]

If you miss with void, then you're an olympic medalist at missing

[vague dune]

Whats the best horde clearing melee for psyker?

[frail geyser]

Light>heavy>push the god chain

[novel bridge]

Thank you for the answers 😊

[weary wasp]

Axe with mass ignore on weak spot kill works well with everyone

[frail geyser]

Force sword

[wet finch]

the guy still uses BB on damnation, meanwhile u guys: ITS LITERALLY UNUNSABLE OMGGGG OUHHHH PLS FIX

[light quail]

force sword and catachan sword

[vague dune]

ty

[sudden turtle]

The pueg staff

[tall mango]

no one’s said it unusable

[shut thorn]

Catachan has no point anymore considering the many buffs FS got

[dawn sphinx]

Oh, I feel you, sibling! But worry not! My beloved says your time to receive a powerful one comes! But you might have to upgrade one yourself!

[tall mango]

We’re just saying there are better options to out preform what BB can do

[small egret]

beloved player

[signal turret]

the first 30s he tosses out 2 bb's while jumping around. Youre insane if you think anyone is watching that full 30m vid. He could use a laspistol if hes going to get carried

[stoic saddle]

what level does psyker unlock the shock staff (and what is it called I suppose.)

[tall mango]

Beloved player my beloved

[crystal olive]

When I click on the Special Action icon for the MkII force sword in weapon details my game crashes. Is it just me or is this a known issue?

[shut thorn]

I'm not even going to watch the video, the argument people are making on release not preorder beta is that voidstrike now does enough damage to entirely invalidate any use of bb

[signal turret]

A bot would have done more than that guy

[shut thorn]

voidstrike is doing almost 2x dmg compared to preorder beta

[frail geyser]

Bb is mathematically bad for like dmg to time/peril spent

[worthy wasp]

Surge staff and its the 2nd staff you unlock... its like level 6 or somethin

[frail geyser]

Most staffs lmb is better dps than bb too lol

[shut thorn]

It's a feature

[frail geyser]

A happy little accident

[shut thorn]

You cannot know the force sword special stats, you'll need higher peril resist for that :)

[crystal olive]

hahaha

[weary wasp]

Usable does not equal optimal. A single shot from a shotgun or bolter can do BB's work in half the time and less

[stoic saddle]

thanks!

Still unsure of what perks to watch for when playing psyker. Any recommendations?
I get lost reading the guides.

[shut thorn]

most people run 11131

[light quail]

I stopped caring about optimal tbh
fun space wizard explode head, me smile at funny trapper voiceline

[shut thorn]

honestly last one is whatever

[worthy wasp]

Nice thing about BB is that it doesnt require LoS

[polar fractal]

i enjoyed playing the laspistol, ngl. Too bad it will never be used apart form early game on psyker. If we could get a dueling sword, laspistol combo similar to the rapier of saltzy in vermintide 2, now that would be spicy imho

[shut thorn]

should give that to vet honestly

[left briar]

why there so many psykers low level?

[stoic saddle]

@shut thorn nono, meaning perks on weapons.
but also thank you

[shut thorn]

youtube baiting them

[left briar]

lv 30 on my zealot and psykers are by far the rarest class

[weary wasp]

It's hard to not care about after jumping from zealot who chops reaper heads off in a single swing

[frail geyser]

Ppl prolly getting around to psyker alts

[light quail]

legit i only picked the beloved guy because of the trapper kill voiceline
dude is way too happy-go-lucky for 40k

[left briar]

leveing my lv11 psyker, i see psykers EVERYWHERE

[worn jewel]

All i see are zealots and veterans

[shut thorn]

depends entirely on the wep, for void you want perks that increase special damage

[frail geyser]

Commisar cain begs to differ

[left briar]

this is the case for lv30 once you start matching with other lv30s

[torpid hemlock]

The trapper’s de-a-a-a-d

[potent echo]

They gonna come in here and complain that bb too weak soon

[light quail]

thats the one!

[crystal olive]

To know the true warp power imbued into the sword is an unhuman task.

[shut thorn]

God

[light quail]

I find the biggest challenge with psyker atm keeping warp charges

[frail geyser]

Heres how you do that

[shut thorn]

there's feats* to have it up 24/7 w/o evenn using the g button

[frail geyser]

Take the passive chance on team kill feat

Then stop caring about warp charges

Oh and kinetic flayer

[light quail]

yeah I'm gonna run that
but the 15% extra dmg to bb'd enemies is appetising too

[crystal olive]

I wish that psykers got a beta logo hood instead of the helmet.

[shut thorn]

lmao wtf is this roll

[frail geyser]

Not as appealing bc bb sucks mathematically

[shut thorn]

I feel bad for people who use trauma staff

[dawn sphinx]

Well shit.

[frail geyser]

Its better now with new scaling math

How better idk

[dawn sphinx]

The quell speed is nice!

[shut thorn]

yes but still incredibly clunky and I haven't seen a single decent trauma roll

[light quail]

I got a trauma staff this morning that isnt the AoE one but instead like fireball staff from vt2

I love it

[worn jewel]

Peril is still too high. You'd need like 80-90 warp resistance

[frank tartan]

You mean you got a void strike staff?

[worn jewel]

Thats Voidstrike....

[light quail]

just charging and spamming a bunch of fatass fireballs

oh thats what voidstrike is

[shut thorn]

Has anyone figured out what causes emperor's gift yet

[worn jewel]

its random

[shut thorn]

I wonder if spamming sub 8 min sedition might be the best way to grind grey 380s

[frail geyser]

The Emperor

[dawn sphinx]

Voidstrike and Trauma do look hella similar though.

[cursive tartan]

faith

[light quail]

you can tell em apart by the figurehead
trauma gold, voidstrike iron

[worthy wasp]

Having a very difficult time choosing which staff to roll with

[weary wasp]

Ive only got trash for gifts, and suddenly the game releases and I get 3 oranges in a row, one being a direct upgrade of melee I used

[light quail]

my inner sienna is tempting me to use the flamethrower one

[shut thorn]

Granted there's a semi decent trauma staff in the limited store rn

[light quail]

idk what its called but its unlocked at 15

[shut thorn]

I still wouldn't waste on it tho

[dawn sphinx]

Wait! Gold?! I thought it was bronze! Well. . . I am actually colorblind, I can't see yellow tones well at all.

[worthy wasp]

Its between Flamethrower and Surge tbqh

[worn jewel]

I've gotten 6 gifts so far; not a single one was grey or green.

[shut thorn]

Bet this thing can almost one shot crusher on t4

[worn jewel]

1 yellow, 4 purples, 1 blue

[weary wasp]

Had whites, greens, dunno blue, no purples

[worthy wasp]

Thing is they nerfed Flamethrower staff kinda

[shut thorn]

wdym

it got buffed

[worn jewel]

Lol.

[shut thorn]

if youre talking about aoe, it didnt get nerfed

it's just visual

[dawn sphinx]

I got 3 gold weapons yesterday. All melee weapons, two of them force swords, one duelist sword.

[worthy wasp]

How did it get buffed?

[shut thorn]

it crits now and has proper dmg scaling

[unkempt juniper]

fire can crit?

[crystal olive]

If they were to add in a new staff, what power do we think it should have?

[unkempt juniper]

lol

[shut thorn]

yes

[tall mango]

just instant death

[vivid merlin]

for the user

[candid temple]

singularity

[worthy wasp]

And no, am not referring to aoe.

Soulblaze used to be able to trigger the 10% on hit to BB trait... it doesnt anymore

[shut thorn]

the ability to target friendly zealots

[unkempt juniper]

explosive warp bolt, take explosions away from voidstrike and let voidstrike be pierce and add an aoe explosive bolt staff

[shut thorn]

wdym it still triggered for me today

are you sure?

[worn jewel]

Blood staff, cone infront of you chokes on their blood (stumble + Bleed stacks)
Though maybe they'll save it for biomancer subclass

[tall mango]

No, do not

[shut thorn]

Someone is hiring a hitman rn because of what you said

[unkempt juniper]

voidstrike being pierce and explosions is a bit much imo

[shut thorn]

You're in psyker chat not vet

[tall mango]

it’s perfectly fine

[worthy wasp]

It doesnt trigger on the dot tics, but it does trigger while you are firing the staff (just not from the dot)

[unkempt juniper]

i love the staff

but void is kinda objectively op

[balmy jacinth]

An accurate lmb atack would be nice

[buoyant spruce]

Voidstrike does pierce tho?

[shut thorn]

Nah

[unkempt juniper]

dps wise, not much can clear a horde faster than voidstrike

[unkempt juniper]

yeah, it has piercing shots that also explode

[shut thorn]

Void is where most staves should be

[weary wasp]

Flamethrower zealot

[tall mango]

The only thing that could clear faster is two voidstrike

[weary wasp]

Kekw

[worthy wasp]

I like that they fixed the other staffs rather than nerfing dafuq out of the best one.

Now all the staffs seem to have niches that they are strong in

[vivid merlin]

the explosion element of voidstrike does very little

[weary wasp]

Evescerator, power sword

[buoyant spruce]

I really like the surge staff but I feel like such a 1-trick with it.

[tall mango]

yeah the explosion is whatever

[vivid merlin]

almost all of the effectiveness is in the pierce

[shut thorn]

Yeah that's the price you pay for special immunity

[tall mango]

it’s like a nice little additive

[balmy jacinth]

Surge staff is boring to play but it's too good to not use

[unkempt juniper]

this also. it's kinda pointless, i'd rather have a single, big, powerful bolt with a big explosion

[vivid merlin]

that's called confl I mean trauma

[weary wasp]

So, bolter

[buoyant spruce]

true true. surge just feels so 'safe'

[shut thorn]

Surge staff genuinely drains your rl iq as you use it because of how monotonous it is

[unkempt juniper]

hell remove the trauma aoe and make it a charged bolt that booms

[buoyant spruce]

☝️

[unkempt juniper]

that might make the staff viable lol

[worthy wasp]

Idk, Force Sword w/ Deflector + Flamethrower Staff feels so good

[tall mango]

i switched from surge to voidstrike and i could feel my brain cells regrowing

[worthy wasp]

You got both elite and horde clear

[shut thorn]

switch out flamethrower for void or surge

[vivid merlin]

I've gotten too used to sniping with void strike and now I can't use a shorter ranged staff

[shut thorn]

becomes even better

[vague dune]

Whats the best lv5 feat?

[vivid merlin]

so I can't use any staff except voidstrike

[buoyant spruce]

thinking I have to do the same. lightning was fun for the first 5 rounds.

[balmy jacinth]

The sound that voidstrike makes on crit alone makes it worth it

[digital chasm]

What level does psyker start getting good? Just starting my psyker character now

[light quail]

I hope they make a surge staff that acts like the vt2 beam staff (lighting flow primary fire and lighting spears rmb?)

[tall mango]

The 3rd one imo

[eager wolf]

I think once you get geared out surge isnt as great. Charged force sword can blap a hound in one hit mid jump for example, some staff stuff lets you juggle specials w voidstrike etc

[vivid merlin]

do you mean the headshot splorch

[shut thorn]

first one

[regal bramble]

how common is it to roll deflector on the force sword? everyone talks about it and im sure its amazing but its entirely up to chance if you get it or not, right?

[unkempt juniper]

psyker is best at lower difficulty and whenever you can get voidstrike staff

but the lvl30 feats are really the strong ones imo

[digital chasm]

what level is that for voidstrike

[balmy jacinth]

Pretty sure it's just on crits, not headshots. But yea

[frail geyser]

My neurons are always firing when I play surge. Constantly dodge sliding, zapping then looking around for specials, swapping to fs for kills. Fun high apm play imo.

[tall mango]

10-15, when you get the staves and force sword

[vivid merlin]

the splorch is 100% on headshot

[shut thorn]

Surge is best cc regardless of gear or difficulty, it's just incredibly boring to play

[vivid merlin]

I hear it constantly

[buoyant spruce]

I just got deflector on my sword. It's good but I haven't had it clutch anything yet

[weary wasp]

It's good from the get go thanks to brain burst oneshots under heresy. Otherwise 10+ ish

[vivid merlin]

fling the projectile just above dude head and listen for it

[shut thorn]

I guess, they just need to lower the time to switch to fs imo

[buoyant spruce]

Still preferring duelling sword for the dodge distance

[worn jewel]

Surge is best because you can pretend to be Palpatine.

[digital chasm]

my psyker is level 1 so idk the levels i unlock somethings

[regal bramble]

I want it so I can use the feat that uses peril to block instead of stam, but I just cannot find a sword with it on it for the life of me

[tall mango]

even in Malice it starts to fall off

[frail geyser]

Swapping to melee is universally instant?

[inland juniper]

What actually does the right click do for the brainburst? All it seemed to do for me is massively increase my peril and that's it

[shut thorn]

Yeah and palpatine sat on his ass all day withering away, like the avg surge staff main

[shut thorn]

time from zap to sword takes awhile

[wise pecan]

Lmao

[tall mango]

it charges the blast without locking onto something

[vivid merlin]

right click preloads a brainburst

[light quail]

you'll get the first staffs at 5-7 ish and force sword around lv4

[inland juniper]

Icic thanks

[tall mango]

it’s kinda useless outside of one scenario

[buoyant spruce]

buy one with decent stats and start consecrating it. but make sure the ilevel and stats are right. later on we can switch traits (hopefully december)

[weary wasp]

Yeh but at least it doesn't make you wanna commissar yourself

[vivid merlin]

but it is December

[balmy jacinth]

I was comparing damage in the psykanium and it for sure didn't do it on every headshot, but who knows

[wet gust]

What they promised vs what we got... WTF?

[unkempt juniper]

this thing dodges so fucking far
(in case you didn't know yet the defences stat also increases dodge distance)

[vivid merlin]

the charged projectile?

[tall mango]

wait what lmao

[left briar]

is this THE sword?

[tall mango]

thank gif i didn’t get the imperial edition

[balmy jacinth]

Yep, maybe it's only on fully charged ones though

[buoyant spruce]

yeah that's what I'm talking about

[shut thorn]

Ngl I've been having adrenaline fueled gameplay for the past two hours staring at armory

[unkempt juniper]

jokes on you for paying money for videogame cosmetics

[tall mango]

The earnable cosmetics are better tbh

[regal bramble]

so i just get a good one, and upgrade it's rarity up to MC, once its at MC am I able to keep re-rolling it or its a bust if i dont roll deflector by then?

[frail geyser]

P sure def and mobility dont stack it just takes the highest of any overlapping stat bonuses

[vivid merlin]

Cosmetic is bugged I think

[light quail]

the clipping on that is a yikes
but the headwear looks very good

[vivid merlin]

It's clipping with itself

[unkempt juniper]

wait rly

[left briar]

are you even playin darktide if you arent checking the armory every hour?

[worn jewel]

Yeah thats so ugly that I just wore the penance outfit instead

[unkempt juniper]

it feels like it stacks

[wet gust]

half of the chest details are messed x' D

[frail geyser]

I think its in the big stat breakdown vid

[vivid merlin]

def and mobility add up and can't add up beyond 100%

[frail geyser]

Thats pinned somewhere

[vivid merlin]

so if you hit 100% between the two you're good

if you are at like 150% you only get 100% benefit

according to jsat anyway

[buoyant spruce]

so beyond 100% it's literally wasted stats?

[shut thorn]

I've just been afk standing infront of it waiting ffor any force wep to appear

[unkempt juniper]

ok this makes sense

[buoyant spruce]

Kinda dumb ngl

[unkempt juniper]

i mean you do get other benefits out of the two stats, but yeah the dodge distance, the important one, is wasted

[frail geyser]

Def still buffs things mobility doesnt

Like push and block stuff iirc

[buoyant spruce]

ahhh gotcha

[vivid merlin]

please Mr Fartshack fix the clipping on Psyker cosmetic I cannot stand not looking good

[frail geyser]

Dodge distance on fs p damn good as well, esp if you always dodge slide you can schmove

[pine iris]

Emma what do you think of buffing feat Psykinetic Aura ( +15% Combat Ability Cooldown one) for a psyker class buff (if BB is in fact too slow damage for 4/5)

[shut thorn]

No you should do malleus instead, with zealots that don't know what they're doing

[weary wasp]

Assuming wrong reply. But either way, weapons are only worth upgrading with 400+ power on blue. Don't remember my highest blue rn

[wet gust]

Thunder Hammer skin? Nah, better if we just forget to add the head

[tall mango]

simply look good without paying money

[eager wolf]

Haha i already bought one of the psyker skins

[light quail]

shouldnt have been like that but it'll be sorted out soon
for now i just run storm witch body instead

[eager wolf]

Impulse buy

[worthy wasp]

Gonna run 111332

[polar gulch]

has no one datamined these yet from the game files

[unkempt juniper]

jokes on you for paying money for videogame cosmetics

[polar gulch]

all the premium sets for every class