psyker-class

[misty mist]

Mid but the backpack is alright

[next meteor]

Got it

[warm meteor]

did they lower chip damage?

[misty mist]

I agree on that

[plush tendon]

force - i use pergasus for horde clear, force sword with deflect (and a bunch of block cost reduction) and use peril to block as my closer

[teal needle]

Pick and mix seems a lot more doable with how many heavy gunners come in a group now

[mint burrow]

Was the penance that required you to have 300sec up time get fixed to be on the difficulty it was meant to be on?

[stoic tendon]

dude it wasnt even possible at 10s

[signal turret]

Yes, you dont take chip dmg if you get hit at max toughness

[warm meteor]

okie doke

[stoic tendon]

that literally the speed of 5 BBs, assuming youd 1 tap

[warm meteor]

thats awesome

[burnt python]

so they said, people are saying its bugged though and you take additional chip at 100% toughness

[jade sundial]

I swear i saw that happening in the veeeeery first day of the pre order beta, than it changed real fast

[wide quest]

I saw someone on my other discord server with the pants.

[stoic tendon]

except over 100 toughness you take FULL DAMAGE

[jade sundial]

I tought i was going crazy

[olive ember]

What missions have a lot of scabs cuz i gotta finish this weekly in like 3 hours

[signal turret]

If you go above 100 toughness you get cock smacked. Hella vets salty rn lol.

[shut thorn]

I'm annoyed that they made cliffhanger substantially easier ngl, new people should suffer the tiny bridge on chasm like every other psyker has

[signal turret]

They finally have a weakness, even if it is a bug.

[burnt python]

Oh its relating to the specific amount of toughness? weird

[misty mist]

Deflect shoulda been a default blessing on force sword on god

[cyan echo]

its so awesome

[next meteor]

So true

[steady sand]

or they should add other part of it, for 20/20, like another cosmetic

[wide quest]

Or at least get lucky in malice+

[cyan echo]

anyone else think Purgatus feels better now? I don't know if they changed anything, but it just feels better

[trail garnet]

More than anything those psyker penances are trying to convince your team not to kill the horde or the monstrosity while you push or brainburst

[mint burrow]

Lmao I suffered so long but I'm glad its easier to get for new people. They deserve the hood too.

[shut thorn]

the visual is smaller, that's the only change

[subtle linden]

is brainburst still the same dmg?

[trail garnet]

goodluck doing that in a pub match

[teal needle]

They made it not cover your whole screen in poo

[signal turret]

Expecting randos to assist in your penances is a dub. Be happy if you get any at all outside a premade.

[pine iris]

I didnt buy a purgatus because of watching people stream it, I couldnt see the screen. Good fix

[shut thorn]

sec lemme get rid of feats

[burnt tapir]

Did they massively nerf the damage of Voidstrike?

[obsidian yoke]

it seems strong now tbh

[cyan echo]

not that i can tell

[bleak tulip]

I think they nerfed the projectile size

[stoic tendon]

pergatus is the best in my opinion, ita actually does decent boss damage

[wide quest]

Idk, feels the same to me.

[burnt tapir]

Mine is only doing ~300ish damage

[steady sand]

• backpack

[trail garnet]

Exactly, but that's a design flaw for psyker penances specifically in my opinion, the other classes are fully capable of completing their penenaces with or without ally interference

[shut thorn]

BB is doing 850-1130dmg on heresy w/o any feats

[burnt python]

they changed how weapon scaling works, so if your staff doesn't have a strong dmg roll it probably got worse

[shut thorn]

I'll get to 4 charges

[burnt tapir]

It's 75%

It does hundreds less

[white hemlock]

I love the voidstrike still. Using it with quell on weak spot and it's just BLAM BLAM BLAM

[next meteor]

Decent

[subtle linden]

is that one shotting anything outside of gunners shotgunners?

[teal needle]

They changed damage scaling, so if you're using a low damage staff it might be worse. High damage should in theory be better but there's not a lot of testing out yet

[shut thorn]

1221 dmg with 4 charges, same dmg

[next meteor]

Camo is a little funky but I like the neckpiece

[shut thorn]

bb unchanged it seems

[trail garnet]

What is the maximum power level a weapon can have?

[white hemlock]

My head is literally sticking through the helmet what are you talking about lmao

[trail garnet]

im in the 400's with power, but no sign of a max cap, in vt2 it was 300

[misty mist]

I was hoping the neck would be part of the body so I could wear hood with it but it's part of the mask

[subtle linden]

this is the highest ive gotten but i believe i couldve gotten 490+ if it rolled higher or something

[next meteor]

LOL

[wide quest]

500 I'd assume.

[next meteor]

Couldn’t quite tell what was going on there

[empty granite]

It was only possible using the level 30 feat to reduce the casting time and peril usage but the timing was really tight. Hitting F then starting your BBs perfectly was something like 9-9.5 seconds total to kill 5.

[white hemlock]

Here's the other hood lmao

[next meteor]

Awesome

[timber shale]

pretty sure i've seen a reddit post of a weapon over 500

[misty mist]

Ima pass on this one chief

[shut thorn]

Perils of warp does around 600-700 dmg now instead of 800, rip

No more suicide bombing

[subtle linden]

chrome dome

[steel musk]

How do you access the staff for psyker?

[white hemlock]

Made myself bald for the first helmet cause it was clipping the hair badly

[silent wave]

level up

[torpid hemlock]

Level up

[silent wave]

get lucky with the shop

[jade sundial]

The hope i had for the Going out with a bang it's even more dead than before

[steel musk]

Ohh ok

[white hemlock]

Nah, it clips everything lmao

[burnt python]

@shut thorn what do the dps numbers look like for the force sword special heavy? My dueling sword is doing approx 350 dps to carapace, 500 to flak, and 1400 to maniac/unyielding

[pine iris]

~ level 15-16

[teal needle]

Highest I've seen is about 530.

[shut thorn]

lvl 5-8 you get the underwhelming trauma staff, lvl 18(?) you get an actually great staff eg surge

[shut thorn]

1100-1300 special mode heavy against carapace on scab mauler's head

I'll check flak real quick

same

[burnt python]

ok, ty

so it likely ignores armor altogether

[shut thorn]

keep in mind I'm testing with 4 warp charges and 60 peril

[burnt python]

very good for carapace but idk if those are enough of a threat to really want to run that

gotcha i am testing with 0 charges

[empty granite]

Keep in mind the Dueling sword has much better mobility while attacking than the empowered force strike while stuck in animation

[devout kelp]

The clipping leather strip 🙃

[white hemlock]

I think I like this despite the clipping

[pine iris]

awesome

[burnt python]

are you running kinetic flayer in these tests?

[teal swallow]

you can inspect weapons and see what each attack does

[shut thorn]

Nah I have it off, I am however using psykinetic's wrath

I'm only getting like 300 on flak heavy w/ dueling sword

[silent wave]

is there any reason to charge the surge staff?

[round swan]

more damage

[shut thorn]

a buncha more single target dmg

[silent wave]

hmm, so not usually I assume

[shut thorn]

but honestly with how powerfful force sword is now

it's better to stun then mop up w/ force sword

[burnt python]

I have a rending trait on mine that is skewing numbers slightly

[burnt tapir]

Is it intentional that my flame staff crits now?

[shut thorn]

Also is it me or is force sword swinging a lot faster than it used to

[timber shale]

mine didn't seem any faster

[finite lynx]

Mine seems slightly faster. I cant put my finger on it but Psyker just seems better now, even though they buffed nothing

[obtuse walrus]

Psyker Gaming

[finite lynx]

Surge seems to kill more than just stun, Force chews

[burnt python]

looks like that force dmg on peril trait is going to be a big d eal for force sword users. Crushers still take 3 heavies w/o it - w/ my weapon at least

[mint imp]

Didn't they change something about having more time to do stuff after you get poked at?

[shut thorn]

Slight bug it seems, force sword special attack heavy can't stun shields anymore

[solemn violet]

Is the "Maintain max warp charges for 5 minutes" penance working on Malice properly now?

[white hemlock]

crashed looking at my special attack 🙃

[shut thorn]

Though ngl not like it matters since you can surge stun then special heavy

[finite lynx]

up thy drip my sibling

[ebon jolt]

Hopefully

[lucid terrace]

u have nothing on agoopnor

[solemn violet]

Also, can anyone tell me what the purpose of the RMB charge on the purge staff is? It doesn't seem like it applies any stacks when fully charged

[teal needle]

Fat shark doesn't like to make weapons that don't crit so hopefully it's intended

[timber shale]

if purg crits now, then that soulblaze on crit blessing might be pretty good on it

[burnt tapir]

Ye, cause the old flamestorm staff in previous beta and v2 couldn't crit

[wintry ivy]

How goes the fight, Siblings?

[white hemlock]

except soulblaze is ass

[timber shale]

nah

the soulblaze feats are ass, other than ascendant blaze

but soulblaze builds are good

[burnt python]

soulblaze does way too little damage

[burnt tapir]

It gets up to +200dps which isn't terrible when it's applied to every single visible enemy

[shut thorn]

Another nice change(?) to force sword, special mode killing an enemy doesn't lock you in for as long as it used to

[burnt python]

dps now > dps later

[half river]

You know nothing of soulblaze stacking, sibling >:(

[white hemlock]

except I can just kill those enemies

rather than wait 4 hours for them to die lol

I was trying soulblaze and it just felt terrible on 4

[burnt python]

dots will always be worse than direct damage unless their dps is significantly higher

[timber shale]

idk LED, ascendant+purgatus is the best heresy build i've used so far

[burnt tapir]

Ascendant purg feels great on 4 imo

[shut thorn]

Also incase some people here aren't aware, you cannot blow up w/ the sword if you have equal or less than 99% peril

[teal needle]

I put 4 stacks of soulblaze on a sniper and it didn't even die. Never used soul blaze again

[burnt python]

even with 6 warp charges ascendant blaze ticks for like 30 dmg lol

[elder kelp]

Guys, what feat do you use to let allies regen theyr F quicker ?

[timber shale]

try it in game, not the meatgrinder

[white hemlock]

I use voidstrike + the BB proc with a staff that quells on weak hit

[burnt python]

is it not working correctly in grinder?

[white hemlock]

just barrel through heads

[burnt python]

that is what I have found the most success with on 4/5 as well, by a lot

[drifting cairn]

my friends needs cliffhanger for the hood. which maps are good for it again?

[compact portal]

yeah if you are lucky you can get multiple warp empowered swings as long as 1% of your peril gets quelled from 100%

[burnt python]

they significanjtly reduced the requirements, shouldn't be too hard to get organically now

[drifting cairn]

I know but still

[timber shale]

in the meatgrinder it never kills poxwalkers, in game a 4 charge ult kills hordes on heresy

idk what's going on

[burnt python]

chasm logistratum, small bridge about 200 yards into the map on the left

[shut thorn]

Chasm ammo raid, right after the arch on left there's a small bridge and on t4 (idk if malice) a horde spawns once you go past arch

[quartz geyser]

thoughts on new staff?

[teal needle]

The side bridge at the start of chasm terminus. With the leman russ tanks

[compact portal]

i logged in and had it because i was stuck at 19/20 and now its 7 so lmao

[burnt python]

that charge rate makes me want to cry, so close to being great

[shut thorn]

Lmao horde deleter

[echo parrot]

I want that top so damn bad but Ive given up on trying to solo the monstricity.

[shut thorn]

Shame abt perks

[burnt python]

same for me at 18/20 lol

[night marten]

needs higher base stats imo

[finite lynx]

You suffer for the chest, but its worth. Like, 0.01% of Psykers have it

[shut thorn]

I didn't notice the charge rate, that's miserable

That's possibly the worst charge rate I've seen on a staff lol

[burnt python]

charging is very important on the void compared to most other staves

[trail garnet]

All it requires is 3 friends willing to allow you to get it

[burnt python]

you need a mid level charge to get the knockdown on elites

[tepid nest]

Low charge rate is probably not ideal, and I also think the blessing that reduces secondary attack charge rate is preferred.

It's not bad, but it's not jaw dropping.

[compact portal]

you only have to do 90% of the damage now

[finite lynx]

thats still suffering

[trail garnet]

Goodluck doing it in a pub match

[wheat wren]

Theres a new staff????

[shut thorn]

Wow 4-5 minutes instead of 8! What a bargain!

[echo parrot]

I know its worth, but I cant find a group that will let me do it. My friends have issues surviving on Malice let alone Heresy, so cant really try to push it.

[night marten]

? no, was commenting on his post

[solemn violet]

Is the "Maintain max warp charges for 5 minutes" penance working on Malice properly now?

Also, can anyone tell me what the purpose of the RMB charge on the purge staff is? It doesn't seem like it applies any stacks when fully charged

[wheat wren]

Fuck

[burnt python]

I'll have to test in game. I tried it in meat grinder a few times and never bothered to take it for a run due to how pitiful it is in grinder

[finite lynx]

flamethrower vs flame whoosh]

[shut thorn]

Charged rmb looks cool

[trail garnet]

I think you need the 6 warp charges Feat to get it? atleast in the beta i had to in order for it to count my time

[shut thorn]

No

[trail garnet]

Oh thats good they fixed it?

[solemn violet]

But like, it doesn't seem like it does anything when fully charged. Like I tried it in the psychanium and it just did knockback

[trail garnet]

Cuz it was legit broken in the beta

[compact portal]

you could with 4 but had to be in heresy instead of malice as it stats

[mint imp]

Wait, is it 300seconds in one go, or 300s total over the whole run?

[finite lynx]

it does burn+knockback, just like your LMB except its... ya know.. longer

[burnt python]

starting to think the psykanium is just brroken and not accurate to the in game numbers

[shut thorn]

I did it on heresy, you need to maintain it for like 600 seconds or something though, had a timer and I got the achieve after 637 seconds of 4 warp charges

[compact portal]

300 seconds

[solemn violet]

Oh my god I don't think I ever tried holding down LMB after charging, thank you

[white cedar]

does it mean if I charge attack to the mob and get multi headshot then I get 3%*X quell?

[finite lynx]

LOL, dw man

[trail garnet]

Highest ive got is 80seconds and for some reason that was only when I had the 6 charges, tried it several other times and maintained it for longer than 80 just never worked

[shut thorn]

I literally timed it in preorder because I kept not getting it after 300

And then did a full map only using bb until I got it

[burnt python]

4 warp charge ascendant blaze ticks for 18 on unarmored and does not kill them in psykanium lol

[shut thorn]

at 637s

[white hemlock]

Yup! Aim high and blast away

[torpid hemlock]

rate the drip boys

[burnt python]

paid, 0/10

[shut thorn]

Looks cool

: )

[burnt python]

(joking)

[warm meteor]

third eye

[next meteor]

Poor, opinion invalidated

[shut thorn]

[burnt python]

lmao

[frozen marsh]

I was able to equip the Ogryn beta helmet

[torpid hemlock]

chest piece is malleus monstronum I wish I could have paid to do that without the effort

[next meteor]

LOL

[burnt python]

100/10

[mint imp]

[shut thorn]

hahahahahaha

I hope you keep it on

[burnt python]

you must never remove it

[shut thorn]

Megamind psyker

[warped widget]

https://tenor.com/view/what-space-rick-moranis-helmet-gif-15822292

[lost pike]

Shit. I was thinking the same thing

Lmao

[trail garnet]

my update is stuck on installing 100%, do i wait or try to restart my pc

[wise pecan]

sopping

[warped widget]

refund and buy again

[shut thorn]

restart steam

[next meteor]

It’s probably unpacking

Check your download manager

[shut thorn]

then prepare for the 17gb download ontop of what u dl'd

[next meteor]

If it’s frozen then yes restart or something

[finite lynx]

no.

[warped widget]

they reduced cliffhanger from 20 to 7 requirment lol

[wheat wren]

What the fuck

[timber shale]

yeah it's really easy now

[mint imp]

Damn we got details on the stats now! Finesse increases attack speed rofl, I was ignoring it since I had no idea tf it was doing

[teal needle]

I get cliffhanger retroactively

[jade sundial]

I wished they reduced Going out with a bang too

[torpid hemlock]

I joke lol, if people were able to do that I'd game end myself with all the effort it took me

[next meteor]

Do you know the strategy

[timber shale]

it does?! I'd been assuming it affected weak point damage

[finite lynx]

I was about to call heresy.. you pass, for now

[jade sundial]

Nope

[next meteor]

Okay so

Get a four stack

Find a group of three elites

Kill the small enemies and extra elites

[mint imp]

Yes! When you inspect weapons, you can hover on the stats with your mouse on the bottom left then it does detail it

[next meteor]

Get your friends to push them all into a corner

[torpid hemlock]

get a slab shield ogryn to hold 3 ragers or maulers for you

problem solved

[timber shale]

awesome

[next meteor]

Then, using force sword, build up your peril with the double push until you well

Explode

[jade sundial]

Thanks, i'll try it out

[next meteor]

Just keep them in the corner

[burnt tapir]

Surge staff feels better? Seems to kill more?

[signal turret]

Just a heads up, Deflector perk Force Sword with Kinetic Deflection feat still allows you to do protected revives

[burnt tapir]

lmao

[signal turret]

LMAOOOO

[trail garnet]

Oh does anyone have a list of all possible perks/traits for different weapon types?

[warped widget]

quietitude was nerfed

[trail garnet]

thatd be a great resource

[paper oar]

Accidently achieving going out with a bang FTW and ending the entire run

[signal turret]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons?class=2e785dba-f1bf-4b88-adf4-7e6b40592fca

[burnt tapir]

I cannot stress enough how much I hated it previously, but it does feel like I'm actually contributing some meaningful damage now

[trail garnet]

awesome thanks dude

[signal turret]

I want to make a Surge Staff comment but I need to find some ice after getting roasted by @next meteor

[next meteor]

LOL

[snow herald]

Any opinions on loadouts that aren't staff + force sword?

[next meteor]

It’s okay we still accept you

[signal turret]

Reroll vet

[trail garnet]

Recon lasgun + dueling sword 🙂

[snow herald]

I have a vet, just curious.

[warm meteor]

cmon you can use a normal melee

[snow herald]

Dueling sword is still Psyker unique, right?

[signal turret]

Haha yeah you can I was moreso focused on the staff part

[night marten]

but yea dueling sword is good too

[trail garnet]

torrent rate of fire is just silly, and i love it

[signal turret]

Now that we arent getting force greatsword(?) I think im dropping my force sword personally

[warm meteor]

dueling sword is psyker unique?

[void anvil]

Dueling sword is def good but force sword is just cooler style wise imo

[waxen echo]

Dueling Sword is psyker unique? so there's something else than this god awful force sword I can use?

[spiral escarp]

No

[signal turret]

I can bully hordes with the shove as long as I need to but Force Sword damage outside its special is so bad

[torpid hemlock]

Did surge staff get any buffs or is it still a tiny bit mid

[snow herald]

hm, the fansite is wrong then

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes/psyker-psykinetic

[waxen echo]

you forget to mention getting animation locked for a single target attack. which you can just use G for anyways.

[night marten]

6-stack Ascendant Blaze Wrath against Damnation trash mobs https://gfycat.com/belovedshrillhornedtoad

[safe sun]

Have you seen anyone else with them? Cause I haven't.

[signal turret]

no comment on being "mid" lol but they fixed it being useless against enemies with different elevation

[torpid hemlock]

thank fuck for that god that was annoying

still sticking to purgator tho tbh

[snow herald]

who else can use dueling swords?

[signal turret]

That too, almost died in the heresy I just got out of because I had to try to swap my sword 4x to switch to staff

[polar viper]

Ogryn too

Toothpick

[torpid hemlock]

especially since it doesn't burn your retinas now when you hold RMB

[signal turret]

Yeah im pretty sure dueling sword is consider a general weapon

[radiant lance]

Was it buffed or is this how it was?

[waxen echo]

Does anyone actually use that god awful aoe staff? idek the name of it. used it once and almost vomited

[night marten]

how it was

[timber shale]

no, it's psyker unique

[night marten]

I just recorded it a minute or so ago

[torpid hemlock]

No trauma staff is a meme staff

[signal turret]

Dueling sword is Psyker unique...? Wow

[radiant lance]

Yeah, not sure why.

[safe sun]

Some like it for CC, but lightning is overall better for that

[boreal wave]

Trauma staff is an absolute waste of time

[trail garnet]

I really like the dueling sword, before using it i was just using the CLaw sword for the cleave

[next meteor]

I don’t think trauma is terrible it’s just nowhere near as good as any of the other options

[void anvil]

You go for the 6 stack max option? Does it increase damage

[waxen echo]

even then purge is even better for that

[warped widget]

flame staff def has better rang

[timber shale]

yeah, idk why it is, DS doesn't really feel like a psyker weapon

[signal turret]

I like the moveset on the dueling sword but that special man. I need to test it, was super underwhelming

[radiant lance]

Trauma CCs horde. But then, you can just take Voidstrike or Flame and kill the horde.

[night marten]

gives you two more soulblaze stacks of damage on each mob, and because damage ramps exponentially those last two stacks hit pretty hard

[torpid hemlock]

purge staff has best AOE/CC, surge has best utility/stun depends on ur playstyle and needs rlly

[radiant lance]

I have no idea what the point of the special is for most weapons in this game lol.

[teal needle]

How much damage is that really though

[tepid nest]

I like the idea of it, and I could see it having some purposes when full crafting is launched.

[torpid hemlock]

surge is great at killing ranged too

[signal turret]

This was my biggest draw for using the force sword as long as I have

[trail garnet]

feels like the special attack of the dueling sword (the stab) is less damage than a normal swing

[twin comet]

Anyone gotten Pick N Mix yet, even 12 seconds its too nasty on heresy

[radiant lance]

Yes, it's special actually does something

[timber shale]

soulblaze doesn't scale linearly, so 6 stacks is significantly more damage than 4

[signal turret]

I only use my melee during hordes, I hate not having a cleave weapon like Veterans

[split elm]

dueling sword special is nice

[safe sun]

Lightning is better for horde CC too because it makes the whole group stop for a moment when the guys at the front are stuck in place. Plus lightning doesnt scatter enemies in all directions

[tepid nest]

It's nice to force stab a Rager in the face 🙂

[signal turret]

Tired of using melees with shitty cleaves

[torpid hemlock]

yeah some of them feel just slapped on for the purpose of special abilities needing to exist

[trail garnet]

My theory on the stab special for the dueling sword is its meant to be used while dodging backwards

[radiant lance]

Wait, really? It can holde an entire horde?

[split elm]

it has pretty damn long range and it works as an interrupt

[tepid nest]

It pushes and stuns pox bursters too

[signal turret]

Not an entire horde but an instant cast is cc on 6 targets, if you keep spamming it you can hit a lot of people quickly

[split elm]

and is super quick

[signal turret]

I personally dont use it for hordes though

[boreal wave]

Not really. Surge staff gets something like five targets at most.

[torpid hemlock]

why hold a horde when you can just kill it all with purgator with unlimited stagger lol

[split elm]

does the lightning staff flame count as soulblaze?

[ruby karma]

flamer staff is too short ranged

[vague dune]

When the fuck will i get a staff as psyker

[timber shale]

i haven't tried it, but i've been told the dueling sword special is useful for interrupting ragers from outside their reach

[tepid nest]

Because purge staff has always crashed my game, I'm hoping it's fixed now 🙂

[torpid hemlock]

mf have you used it

[split elm]

what, you don't like lasguns and autoguns?

[trail garnet]

I tried doing the soulblaze level 30 talent, but i really really like the peril cost and cast time reduction for brainburst

[ruby karma]

Yes? :P

[torpid hemlock]

what sniper engagements have you been in as psyker lmao

[dusty mirage]

so, whats the strat for daemonhosts now? just loose a team member?

[split elm]

the way the psyker is meant to be played

[signal turret]

I use my Surge on flak targets and elites only unless its just a small group of dregs

[timber shale]

avoid them

[safe sun]

For a moment. It'll only hit a few at the front but everyone behind has to stop and repath, if there even is any space to the sides for them to run.

[dusty mirage]

thats a joke right?

[timber shale]

no

that's literally the best strat

[dusty mirage]

dodge 4x, die

[signal turret]

You dont have to aggro daemonhosts

[twin comet]

I just use my force sword still

[timber shale]

they're like Witches from left 4 dead

[signal turret]

you actually can just avoid them

[trail garnet]

How do you guys feel about having 3 "Real" dodges before being slowed into oblivion with brain burst equipped?

[torpid hemlock]

abuse their lack of aggro loss for malleus monstronum 😉

[ruby karma]

perhaps I had one with poor stats. Lightning is so far my fav, but it gets stale, cause all you do is lightning.
BB is ass, forcesword is bae doe

[signal turret]

Seems to be enough for me. If you're still holding your BB after 3 dodges... why

[split elm]

Blazing spirit is pretty good

[tepid nest]

Good nerf

[timber shale]

if you HAVE to fight a demonhost, best option is to have a shield ogryn tank it since the DH can't hurt them through the planted shield

[dusty mirage]

no idea what that means

[night marten]

combined with turtling shield ogryn....... that's it!

[timber shale]

next best option is to have somebody who is really good at dodge dancing tank the DH

[torpid hemlock]

that's how I did it lol

[signal turret]

Pull out BB, pop the sniper while spamming dodge, change back to melee if youre still being engaged in melee

[twin comet]

@I just wish soulblaze builds felt better on the higher diffs

[fluid wren]

new psyker drip kinda fire

[torpid hemlock]

ogryn in a corner with slab shield with DH is free malleus

[tepid nest]

This man knows how to Psyker

[fluid wren]

we groovin

[timber shale]

they made malleus penance slightly easier too

[burnt python]

can you even perform 3 dodges in the time it takes to charge bb?

[safe sun]

You can also spam cast it since the stun is the same regardless of how far you charge it up, so you can seriously slow down a horde coming at you and give your teammates time to lay into them without much resistance.

[twin comet]

Im guessing nobody has gotten Pick N Mix penance then

;_;

[signal turret]

I try lol

[timber shale]

you only have to deal 90% of the monster's hp now, so if an ally hits it by accident you aren't screwed

[wide quest]

I've only seen 1 person in the POB that has done it.

[night marten]

the imperium set also looks pretty fire

[torpid hemlock]

I wish I loved surge staff as much as purgator since it looks cooler to me to use lightning but I just feel so useless with it killing power wise

[trail garnet]

Yeah, especially if your target is a priority but is farther away from the melee dude who is currently taking swings at you

[snow herald]

Does deflector let you block snipers?

[boreal wave]

I have a feeling surge staff stun is gonna get nerfed

[torpid hemlock]

doesn't rlly need one at all

[wide quest]

And anything else that also hits it too.

[formal glade]

What kind of blessings should I be looking for on a surge staff and a purge staff?

[torpid hemlock]

it has strengths and weaknesses

[signal turret]

No, just got 360 no scoped in an instant with block up 10m ago

[burnt python]

Isn't BB charge time like 2.5 seconds? and dodge cooldown is .85 sec

[twin comet]

No I learnt the hard way, but its amazing paired with peril on block, you become immortal reviving friends as peril drains faster than it accrues in a horde

[teal needle]

Yeah bb sucks by and large but you can basically dodge as much as you need to when you do need to get it off

[signal turret]

might have been that match but snipers were crazier than beta

[boreal wave]

It's braindead simple to use and trivializes a lot of enemies. I really think it's not long for this world.

[twin comet]

Fatshark are insane thinking it can be attained without insane luck and perfect timing, ive done 70 runs attempting it and got 4 at best

[timber shale]

that alone makes deflector top tier imo

[trail garnet]

the 3rd dodge would occur then at 0.05 seconds after the brain burst

[signal turret]

I just don't like Force Sword's moveset

[burnt python]

right... so why would you need more than 3 ?

[torpid hemlock]

think you need friends to do it with tbh, one of which being an ogryn with slab shield

[wide quest]

At least now it's easier ig.

[weak galleon]

Whoever here mentioned about Mk5 Axe push-attack spam - thank you.
this works surprisingly well, I suppose Peril on Block to make up for running on 0 stamina in hordes?

[ebon jolt]

No

[trail garnet]

So you can dodge after the animation if you are being swung on, switching to melee is what you do of course but even this has a delay

[twin comet]

its lockon when yoiu hit with the charge is nice, makes you follow a dog or mutant that runs past you

[signal turret]

Yeah I think im actually going to try this now myself

[fluid wren]

im pretty sure the reduced penance diff for psyker is a bandaid for a future rework, make what exists more possible while they figure out something better

[torpid hemlock]

the only penance which is really just a bit shit is pick n' mix tbh

[crude garnet]

does the staff attack count as ranged for weekly?

[burnt python]

I think being able to continuously spam dodge w/ bb out would lead to some seriously corny gameplay

[torpid hemlock]

others are fine imo

[trail garnet]

i personally would like 4 dodges, but its a nitpick

[twin comet]

12 seconds is still not enough, kinda hoping BB gets a minor charge speed buff or even better damage since its near useless on damnation when I could just use a staff

[torpid hemlock]

glad they changed cliffhanger tho wish I didn't have to do it when it was 20 lol

all my homies hate chasm bridge

[torpid hemlock]

based run n' gun enthusiast

[silent wave]

what build do the surge staff enjoyers run for the skill tree?

[trail garnet]

oh definitely, i would never advocate for a ridiclous or unlimited amount of dodges, i just think 3 happens to be slightly too low

[grim bay]

im fast AF boii

[burnt python]

Gotcha. I think it's about right, there shoudl be some risk to pulling out your bb with mobs in your face

[burnt python]

altho with the current state of BB... it's not worth it 90% of the time

[twin comet]

I wish I got purge peril on weakspot, would have made this perfect other than some middling stats

[fluid wren]

jesus general chat is full of salt right now

[trail garnet]

Quelling peril = toughness just seems objectively the best t1 talent to me for all builds, but i may be wrong

[signal turret]

This is what I run

[fluid wren]

hello siblings :)

[burnt python]

3-2-1-2-3-3 for p much all weapons for me atm, would chang eit up for purge or a force sword heavy build

[twilit folio]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

[signal turret]

Yeah i've been considering going back into this, works well with peril vi blocking

[twin comet]

I like void better than surge for the ability to blow up gunner nests and wipe out hordes faster than a flamer

[silent wave]

i don't see the value of the blocking with peril perk

[split elm]

Nice staff but Run’n’gun on that staff is hilarious

[silent wave]

probably mainly good with that block projectile blessing though

[split elm]

Wouldn’t hit a Land Raider if you were inside it

[signal turret]

Stamina management in hordes, safe revives

[burnt python]

the quelling one is the best imo, it's the only one you can reliably trigger in all scenarios (monstrosity fights, assassinations, etc)

[twin comet]

peril drains super fast on blocks for some reason, so unless a few ragers are in your face you will probably not hit stamina

[timber shale]

safe revives is the biggest one

[errant nimbus]

At malice or lower, peril blocking literally makes me invincible

[silent wave]

I guess i don't struggle with stam that much

definitely good for revives though, i can see that

[twin comet]

you can sit in a horde and block and you will become a pseudo ogryn

[burnt python]

peril on block would be really good if the +% dmg to force attacks per peril was better, but it seems pretty weak atm

[timber shale]

it's also pretty hilarious to just block and walk up to a reaper or gunner as they shoot you

[formal glade]

Oh wow, am i crazy or the purg staffs beam is way thinner now

[trail garnet]

If im the tank psyker, theres something seriously wrong with our team composition lol

[timber shale]

it's just a visual change

[night marten]

it's just the animation I think

[burnt python]

someone tested earlier and said it was just visual

[signal turret]

Just a general reminder that if you hold block while rezzing you continue to block during the rez

[burnt python]

you dont have to hold block, it auto blocks

[twin comet]

4 psykers is the optimal comp

[trail garnet]

In vt2 this is just automatic

[formal glade]

Oooooooh, holy crap if this is just visual, i was spraying and praying with it before all wrong LOL

[tepid nest]

I had this happen and I was the melee Psyker lol.

[timber shale]

we need a 4 stack of psykers, one with each staff

[twin comet]

I had 4 randoms with each of the 4 staffs

[signal turret]

🤯

[twin comet]

cleanest heresy game ever

and it was a double grim

[split elm]

2 voids 2 surges would probably suffice

For anything

[errant nimbus]

I still use my recon lasgun still over any staff. It procs kinetic flayer literally on demand.

[burnt python]

multiple surges is super redundant

[trail garnet]

I kinda hope we get different projectile visuals for the left clicks on each separate staff, i didnt notice any real difference when using them

[timber shale]

oh yeah, 1 of each is definitely not optimal lol

[burnt python]

1 surge does the job as good as 2

[twin comet]

flamer is nice for melting elites faster who are stunned by surge

[split elm]

Not really when the hordes are big

[radiant lance]

Wait, what? Blocking makes peril be quelled faster?

[split elm]

Or coming from all sides

[burnt python]

i mean if hordes are your concern, surge aint the right staff

[timber shale]

hmm, i wonder how multiple psykers applying soulblaze interacts...

[signal turret]

Kinetic Deflection feat

[twin comet]

it feels like it quells stupid fast with deflect

[trail garnet]

I would imagine it stacks

[signal turret]

The peril you get from blocking drops off super fast

[radiant lance]

Huh... That seems like a bug?

[timber shale]

that would be pretty cool

[split elm]

It’s super weird that melee weapons lose peril WAY faster than staffs

[twin comet]

it does say it makes blocking better in the perk

by 10%

[signal turret]

Idt so tbh, stamina also regens decently fast

[burnt python]

does it not reset the passive quell cd timer?? that makes it waaaay better than i thought

[signal turret]

no point taking the feat if it didnt have some benefit over just using stam

[tiny marsh]

The black psyker drip is pretty cool

[ornate hamlet]

Force sword apparently has unlimited dodges

[tiny marsh]

B)

[split elm]

Like I don’t even quell much at all, I just switch to dueling sword

[trail garnet]

You could theoretically soulblaze a boss down really fast with 4 psychers max 6 charges each of soulblaze and release their ults at the same time

[ornate hamlet]

So you can literally keep kiting

That’s wild

[burnt python]

thats almost definitely a bug

[signal turret]

Doesnt seem like it

[twin comet]

I wish my force sword didnt have absolute trash mobility, I cant side dodge mutants ever now

[night marten]

think there's a cap on soulblaze stacks (just based on meat grinder testing, that's not confirmed)

[ornate hamlet]

It says it on the data page

[night mortar]

Question... this worth upgrading??

[tiny marsh]

I want the force staff :(

[timber shale]

the peril-block is also nice because it scales with both warp resist and block cost reduction

[ornate hamlet]

I’m not home atm but check extra details for your force sword

[signal turret]

bro what... headed to meat grinder lol

[burnt python]

wow, that is wild - they've stated so many times they dont want dodge kiting to be a thing

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe it’s a must for Psyker

Since they’re very fragile

[worn canopy]

Dodge kiting should be a thing

[half river]

Same for guns

[silent wave]

even knife has a limit of 5 lmao

[twin comet]

unarmoured is kinda bad and the perk is lowestr level but stats are good, when crafting is out you can swap those

[ornate hamlet]

Idk what the justification for it is or if it’s just bugged

[errant nimbus]

They make it so the purge staff procs warp charges from ascendant blaze yet? I felt stupid that it didn't count as "soulblaze".

[split elm]

Damage is low but it doesn’t matter if you hit breakpoints

[night marten]

this is already a thing I think

[silent wave]

my force sword has negative dodge distance though so maybe that's how it's balanced

[timber shale]

it was doing that during beta, and still is

[burnt python]

would re ally dumb down the gameplay imo, invalidating melee

[night mortar]

hrmm true, tyty, im using my dagger currently and was thinking of changing but i love the dagger

[ornate hamlet]

Force sword also tends to have shit stamina lol

[timber shale]

they have to die to the burn though, not the direct damage

[steady elk]

i think im gonna drop the force sword for axe or dagger tbh

[signal turret]

Hes not lying it really is infinite

[ornate hamlet]

I like force sword for the aesthetic~

[burnt python]

thats insane, will def be trying that out later lmao

[timber shale]

shh don't tell anyone about our dodges

[twin comet]

does lacerates till bleed everything in the room if you psyker shout with it out

[burnt python]

try mk V dueling sword, its sick

[half river]

Wait so purgatus counts as soul blaze??

[steady elk]

force sword with full charge and charged up heavy does do alot of dmg

[night mortar]

i can test, havnt tested let me check

[timber shale]

yeah the purg burn is SB

[steady elk]

gonna try that now

[crude garnet]

can anyone tell me if staff basic attacks count towards ranged kills for weekly quests

[polar gulch]

fifth lasgun in a row from emperor's gift, what is His plan?

[ornate hamlet]

Gun wizard

[polar gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-amy-santiago-disgust-disgusted-disgust-face-gif-19417762

[trail garnet]

What is the value of damage 1 stack of soulblaze does to an unarmored target?

[timber shale]

I'm sure they do. Also teammates kills count towards mission progress so don't sweat it too much.

[half river]

I must inform multiple psyker friends immediately

[burnt python]

Don't see any reason they wouldnt but do not know that for certain

[trail garnet]

DPS i mean, of course

[night mortar]

nah it doesnt

[burnt python]

1st stack does like 1 dmg but its scaling is all sorts of fucked

[silent wave]

yeah idk, I tried surge again though and while it was good it was also pretty boring

[twin comet]

@night mortar damn they fixed it, no more fun

[burnt python]

soulfire stacking is not yet understood at all

the math behind the dmg ticks that is

[trail garnet]

Ill have to meat grinder some tests and run some numbers idk

[half river]

It is understood that it is stupid

[weak copper]

Does the Psyker rebreather headpiece from the shop make your character bald? Asking so I know whether or not to get it

[burnt python]

you don't enjoy unnecessarily convoluted numbers???

😛

[trail garnet]

If not capped however, just imagine 24+ stacks of soulblaze on a single target

[timber shale]

but Fatshark told me that transparency is toxic!

[steady elk]

lots of soulblaze does melt bosses tho

[burnt python]

there's almost certainly a cap, since bleed has a cap

[nocturne dune]

need tons of stacks tho

[burnt python]

where my green circles

[signal turret]

Anyone elses settings keep defaulting back to what it was before you changed them?

[trail garnet]

Would love to know the number

[twin comet]

My force sword says it caps at 12 soulblaze

[signal turret]

My hold to crouch keeps turning back off. Super annoying

[twin comet]

for applying crit soul blaze

[burnt python]

numbers are cool, but you know whats cooler? a complete lack of information

[keen meteor]

Covers the head so I assume so.

[trail garnet]

"it adds to the intrigue"

[burnt python]

its actually a mystery game

detective simulator

[twin comet]

time to ruin more games by doing pick n mix and not contributing to the team at all thanks fatshark

[tepid nest]

Try crouching IRL. It works for me.

[night marten]

yup, looks like you're right. didn't realize that. bummer

[trail garnet]

So is the damage modifier % a multiplier of a weapons base damage and power level factored in somehow?

[burnt python]

I think thats the general assumption but its not known

[twin comet]

the psyker premiums look kinda ass personally

[timber shale]

knowledge is heretical

[devout axle]

I will break the batman

[polar gulch]

just wait for the sister repentia purity seal sets

[peak sundial]

i will pop your head batman

[cold pumice]

My only issue with the gas mask is I cannot show off my glorious wizard beard

[trail garnet]

Unknown Number x Damage Modifier% = Your damage before armor types

[weak copper]

Damn, Fatshark make helms that dont turn people bald challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[silent wave]

batman probably survives that on heresy+

[burnt python]

you fo rgot to cube root your curio power

[tepid nest]

Beta Company is only for bald people. Join us.

[half river]

I enjoy a good math equation every now an again. I made a formula to calculate healing output in a different game but this??? This math makes me feel inferior to whatever 300IQ genius is deciding how darktide calculates anything

[timber shale]

batman just spawns in directly behind you and downs you before you can BB

[burnt python]

i do a lot of math for a living and fatshark still makes my head hurt, in j_sat we trust

[shut thorn]

So did some testing, surge is honestly the same, force sword however is extremely good now esp if you have a deflection blessing

[polar gulch]

it's fitting considering the setting, Faker

[tired patio]

What’s the change to cliffhanger?

[shut thorn]

from 20 enemies to only 7

[burnt python]

7 enemies from 20

[shut thorn]

a needless change

[steady elk]

wtf and i went thru hell to get it done in the beta

[burnt python]

probably very reasonable to get organically now

[half river]

No one believes me but I didn't know who Faker was when I made the name 😭

[ornate hamlet]

i got so confused when i logged in because it insta gave it to me

[shut thorn]

meanwhile you still have to get around BB targeting being iffy to get the heresy 5 headpop within 10s except now you get an extra 2s

[warped widget]

there aren't enough staff drops in the armory exhange

[tired patio]

Bruh wth. Well the people who did 20 are just better

[ornate hamlet]

guess ive knocked more than 7 off a cliff before or smth

[devout axle]

That's okay. Faker doesn't know who he is either.

[burnt python]

yes it was retroactive, i got it on login too when my best attempt was 18

[warped widget]

i was at 16/20 for cliffhanger before release so I guess the progress when it got reduced carried over so I instantly got the achievement but I didnt notice

[scenic fog]

also changed the dreg penance, was always stuck at -1, instantly got it when logining in

[ornate hamlet]

honestly so glad its retroactive, not many games would do that

[rapid shale]

Anyone seen new psyker weapons?

[burnt python]

afaik no new weapons today for anyone

[shy yoke]

no new weapons for any class

[rapid shale]

Thank you

[timber shale]

which is immensely disappointing

[shy yoke]

yes

[shut thorn]

Yeah I was hoping for a diff force melee

[shy yoke]

i would like more force weapons

[night mortar]

Another question for you lightning staff users, i main a void but looking for a surge staff now also, what blessings am i looking for?

[shut thorn]

Something with horde clear

[timber shale]

i'd like a different force sword model

there's 3+ different swords/axes/etc

but only one force sword?

[olive ember]

the one that gives faster charge, and the uninterrupted charge for comfort imo

[white cedar]

I think it not proc "every time" you headshot. I think it have time interval like 0.5-1 sec to proc. RIP infinite force charge or just 1 proc per 1 charge

[rapid shale]

Ya I was hoping for more force weapons

[mint imp]

Any idea what's this???

[shut thorn]

Vague question, depends if you want to CC even more or just do extra dmg

[burnt python]

It definitely procs on multiple enemies on the same cast, unless it changed today

[shut thorn]

We'll probably get it when crafting comes out fully

[wise ruin]

did they actually nerf it?

[mint imp]

I see thankies, I thought I missed something

[white cedar]

I don't know, I line the mob and I think I got 3-6% quell

[devout axle]

The bonus values you get from Blessings and Perks are tied to your weapons total Rating.

[shut thorn]

Ngl I was really hoping for an alternative to force sword this patch

[burnt python]

if you got more than 3% it still works, its just rng err maybe bugged

[pine iris]

guessing: omnissiah is like the machine god. probably the next power level tier (after 500) or some class of new gear. way in the future stuff most likely (all from my own noggin)

[shut thorn]

But it's nice that force sword is really powerful now, it's still single target though

[night mortar]

gotcha, upgraded one of my ones and i dont think i got too lucky but unsure

[shut thorn]

It's got good charge rate and dmg

[timber shale]

they really worded that blessing confusingly

[white cedar]

this line will get me 5-10 headshot but I got around 3-10%quell

[shut thorn]

And yea that blessing is 10% chance

[pine iris]

for the blessings, the amount of little hash lines on the outside (0-4) is also a clue as to how good of a blessing it is

[night mortar]

yah, might just use it and see how it goes

[burnt python]

if you're getting more than 3% back, it's working. It's much more noticeable on a dense in-mission horde

[olive ember]

yeah the problem is surge is more for the hard cc against specials not the damage

[night mortar]

yep, will just test it out and see how it performs, only one i have currently but i prefer void regardless

[white cedar]

hidden time interval proc then

[burnt python]

lol more hidden details, great

[twin comet]

I am actively sabotaging games by attempting the pick n mix penance, fatshark why did you do this

[white hemlock]

It's a thing I guess

[fathom zealot]

bro I fucking hate penances, is there a chat to get games together for them. My friends aren't all on so its annoying as fuck because I cant do private games yet

[wise pecan]

Which one is that?

[fathom zealot]

I just need the super simple 7 enemies pushed off, but even that one is annoying if everyone just kills the hoard

[twin comet]

kill 5 completely unique special or elite with BB in 12 secs

[wise pecan]

Completely unique? Not just five ragers?

[twin comet]

completely unique

not one the same

[wise pecan]

Oof

[burnt python]

are you sure?

did they change the phrasing?

[twin comet]

ive killed 5 ragers in less than 10 secs

so it doesnt work

[burnt python]

with BB on heresy?

[twin comet]

ye

[burnt python]

wow

[fathom zealot]

I love RNG based challenges

[fallow creek]

Pretty sure it can be any elites?

[burnt python]

considering theres only like 2 elites/specials you can 1 shot on heresy that is dumb

[wheat wren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cU_jq3IAis&t=3s

This is how I did 20 enemies before they made the penance easy

[burnt python]

cliffhanger should p pretty easy to get organically on the water supply mission now, final phase of the mission

[fathom zealot]

Thats what i'm trying to do but no one will let me hoard up enemies and I cant do a private game and i'm waitinf for my group to get on

[twin comet]

I joined a game with only bots, killed the bots with a jump over a gap then got the horde all grouped up and pushed

[wheat wren]

Go into lfg and say youre doing cliffhanger in the voice channel that you're in

you'll get people willing to help

[twin comet]

difficult in europe I swear half the games your team dont speak english

or willingly ignoring it

[wheat wren]

Probably because they speak european

https://tenor.com/view/lel-teeth-man-laugh-gif-24159653

[rapid cypress]

Europ*an

[gleaming osprey]

ALERT: demon hosts are perfect for completing the solo boss penance.

1. Get yourself a shield ogryn
2. Have him pull agro
3. ???
4. Profit

[twin comet]

fatshark definitely stealth nerfed perks on shop weapons, they're allmost always the lowest rank version you can get after a patch

[split elm]

Weapons in the store seems worse too

[twin comet]

yea

[split elm]

In terms of level

[white cedar]

I have 2 theory
1.It only proc 1 time per charge and I hallucination
2.It have time interval

[dusty mirage]

good thing we can craft them /s

[twin comet]

and with no crafting its even worse

[worldly echo]

wait yall had good weapons in the store?

[twin comet]

half the time my blues had perks with level 3 or maxxed

[split elm]

I used to somewhat consistently get high scoring lasguns and autoguns

And axes

[twin comet]

fatshark dont like the player having too much fun

[rapid cypress]

I just want my magical girl outfit

True grimdark attire

[split elm]

Players cant complain that there’s no endgame

If they never progress

Taps head

[polar gulch]

omfg, 6th lasgun from emperor

screw this, I'm going heretic

[brave drift]

Anyone got the 2h Force Sword yet?

[polar gulch]

doesn't exist

[solar narwhal]

uhh i just randomly got the cliffhanger achievement when i logged in just now? did they fix it or something?

[brave drift]

I'll dream it to exist.

[warped widget]

phat drop party in the chaos basement

[static mango]

yo boys

best staff?

[warped widget]

flame or lighting

voidstrike if u wanna be different

[static mango]

Gotcha

Cheers

[pliant birch]

so is warp sword the only choice for us?

[warped widget]

no lol

you can use whatever u want

[white cedar]

me too

[pliant birch]

yeah but they push back and the special are pretty op

[white cedar]

duel sword is fun

[warped widget]

they reduced cliffhanger from 20 to 7

[solar narwhal]

oh nice

[pliant birch]

wait

duel swords?

havent gotten there yet

[solar narwhal]

they probs should update the steam achievement description then

[mint burrow]

dueling sword

Not dual wielding

[pliant birch]

they gotta include a 2h force sword that would be sick

[white cedar]

saber that looklike rapier

[pliant birch]

oh yeah its decent really fast etc

[warped widget]

same axes are just as fast as the 'dueling sword'

if not as good in damage if not better

[brave drift]

cus they have less cleave.

[pliant birch]

i realize its SOO early but from ppl who played VT2 how often did they release content patches?

[white cedar]

dueling mk5 have good cleve and overhead at last combo and heave attack

[pliant birch]

asking in regards to weapons/classes to be added

[brave drift]

[white cedar]

other mk have only stabbing charge

I hate stabbing rapier = =

[twin comet]

Hey remember when they said they would add dedicated servers and pvp to vermintide

[nocturne dune]

any1 know what max item lvl is ?

[twin comet]

ahh so glad they got around to that

[white cedar]

this Fatshark, you will get only 70% they said

[twin comet]

true we only got 70% of a release

[warped widget]

i think they are releasing more content with in a week

[brave drift]

I was hoping for the new weapons but not even that was released.

Bummer.

[brave drift]

I hope full crafting comes sooner than later.

[warped widget]

full crafting i think is just being able to move special stats from weapon to weapon not so much with ilevel

but im not entirely sure

[cobalt granite]

Why people keep saying that psyker psucks but 99.99% of people are psykers?

[brave drift]

My progress for Pick n' Mix was erased bruh

[brave drift]

It looks the coolest.

[warped widget]

psyker doesn't suck at all they are a big help

[crimson badge]

Just because it's fun to play doesn't mean it's balanced

[brave drift]

Plus most of them are in their honeymoon phase.

[weak galleon]

Only doing lvl2's rn since helping a friend get his first levels, but at low difficulties Axe Mk5 definitely on par with Force/Duelist

[white cedar]

mask hat make your sound muffer luke Bane from Batman XD

[brave drift]

They'll realise when they get to Heresy+ how it is.

[ebon jolt]

I like Psyker mostly because I don’t have to think about ammo.

[cobalt granite]

I really hope psyker population decreases 😄
Too many of us

[brave drift]

ngl I don't think about ammo apart from guns like a Shredder.

[unique oar]

Worth getting this ?

Force sword seems kinda weak for damnation

[brave drift]

I wouldn't.

[cobalt granite]

It's crap

[brave drift]

Anything Soulblaze related is an immediate no.

It's just crap.

[cobalt granite]

Hard disagree

[warped widget]

no its not lol

[brave drift]

On a weapon.

[unique oar]

what about force sword in general?

[cobalt granite]

Exactly

[brave drift]

Yes we were obviously talking about the weapon.

[cobalt granite]

It's good overall but not the best melee weapon choice

[brave drift]

The only worth Soulblaze perk to use is Ascendant Blaze.

[solid lake]

I've got one of those with increased Crit on repeated hit, can melt maulers with light attack spam

[brave drift]

I just use two Warp Charged attacks instead.

[unique oar]

what would you recommend for damnation gaming tho? Chainsaw sword?

[teal needle]

I used a 4 stack ascendant blaze on a sniper, it didn't even kill it. Switched off the talent and never looked back

[cobalt granite]

I personally use a knife on Damnation

[solid lake]

That's the ideal, but when they are stuck in a horde, it's nice to have the soul blaze kill them when otherwise I'd have to clear to get to them early

[cobalt granite]

That's cos you use it with 6 stacks or you just don't use it.

[unique oar]

what about ranged? I was rocking electro staff but it seems a bit... weak ?

[brave drift]

It's a utility staff.

You use it to stun elites.

[unique oar]

yeah exactly

i felt like a stun bot lol

[brave drift]

That's exactly what you are supposed to be lol

[red herald]

Trust me it's very useful. People miss it when it's gone

[brave drift]

Makes the game a hell lot easier.

[red herald]

Psyker is battlefield control/damage

[teal needle]

Getting 6 stacks and keeping them without the free bb talent sounds like a freaking chore

[cobalt granite]

Elctro stuff is good if you have a great diversed team, you use it to play a support role, to provide hard CC when needed

[cobalt granite]

I keep 6 stacks at all times cos of passive gain from allies

[unique oar]

What would I rock for damage tho, void staff?

[cobalt granite]

Also just kill whatever you see even 25 seconds, not that hard tbh

[valid pagoda]

Is psyker even very good? at least in the beginning it doesnt feel powerful

[candid temple]

Force Weapon?

[cobalt granite]

Want ranged damage - switch to veteran. Psyker is not good at damaging

[candid temple]

CC is very good.

[brave drift]

Void Staff is probably the best (for hordes)

[cobalt granite]

Psyker is good only at level 30.

[brave drift]

If you want ease of use.

[solid lake]

It takes a little while to stop feeling rubbish. First couple of perks and a decent staff makes the world of difference

[brave drift]

I'm not really a fan of the Voidstrike staff.

[teal needle]

Love to waste time charging an attack that does like a quarter the dps of most auto attacks

[violet knoll]

psyker sucks at low levels. and really hes best at support now then raw DPS, He can dps but every other class does it better. Once you get staffs thats where psyker becomes better

[mint imp]

I loved Psyker from the point I got to use staves, not needing ammo is so so good

[violet knoll]

the last DEV post said they want to move away from brain burst that why it got so much nerf over the beta period. Its still good for long range snipe on elites

[radiant lance]

I don't understand how we are missing weapons that were in the freakin' trailers... It honestly boggles the mind. Are they not ready for launch or did FS literally forgot to add them..?

[violet knoll]

though a good vet is better at that

[twin comet]

they nerfed it from the bottom up not top difficulty down though

my issues is why do fatshark love nerfs so much in a PvE game

[cobalt granite]

Basically Psyker's ONLY 2 options in the group are crowd control OR horde managing. Nothing else. If you disagree - you are playing on difficulty level 2.

[twin comet]

its like im playing an esport title

[brave drift]

People are shitting on BB so much, while it is shit and doesn't scale, when you're getting peppered from every direction and the Vet is getting suppressed, your lock-on and behind the wall popping is gonna save your team.

[night marten]

was toughenss for psykers nerfed at release?

[candid temple]

I hate brainburst

it's so clunky to use.

[twin comet]

psyker can horde control and destroy gunners and weak elites with voidstrike on heresy+ tho

[cobalt granite]

OR you can have an ogryn as a ready to use cover which is better than wasting 15 minutes to head pop a horde of shooters.

[twin comet]

I like the utility it brings

[violet knoll]

its not completely useless. Just sucks that the class's primary ability is a niche use

[brave drift]

Yeah that was terrible, now most of the time when BB is needed, people spend more time quelling instead.

[mint imp]

Wdym by horde control btw??

[brave drift]

Why would you BB a horde of shooters lol? Just gunners.

You don't get suppressed by normal ranged enemies I believe.

At least I felt like I haven't been.

[twin comet]

ive been supressed by those shooters in the helmets

[teal needle]

You should be using the staff to fight regular ranged enemies unless you're being suppressed

[warped linden]

you get suppressed any time something is shooting directly at you

[mint imp]

You do get suppressed once your toughness is gone

[twin comet]

I hate that awful effect where your vision blackens

[cobalt granite]

You should play on heresy with the new modifier.

[brave drift]

Which one?

I only played Endless Horde Heresy

[cobalt granite]

Then you are not a true psyker!!

[teal needle]

You can kill like 3 ranged enemies with staff primary attack in the time it takes to bb one guy

[warped linden]

any changes to psker in the full release update?

[cobalt granite]

There's a new one with hordes of specialists instead of weaklings

[warped linden]

haven't finished the download to check

[frank chasm]

Uhhhhhh I’m scared

[brave drift]

Different from Endless Horde?

[twin comet]

voidstrike will still be my love, I cant drop my railgun orbs

[boreal wave]

Leveling up, you're a crappy veteran. After you get staves, you're a one-trick-pony gimmick dispenser.

[brave drift]

Oh this

[twin comet]

kills horde better than flame staff

[cobalt granite]

Yes, it is different

[radiant lance]

I'm pretty sure this is just a renaming of endless horde?

[twin comet]

it just looks like its endless horde reworded

because theres low intensity zone too

[brave drift]

I suppose less Hordes though. Just specialists.

[cobalt granite]

Nope, it is different, you get A TON of specialists

[brave drift]

This is perfect for Pick n' Mix.

[radiant lance]

Cool. How much extra XP we talking here?

[teal needle]

Endless horde before felt like it double or tripled special spawn rate already

[twin comet]

didnt feel different to endless horde at all

[radiant lance]

And yeah, Endless Horde also had increased specials I think

[twin comet]

and its also forced onto every heresy game like the beta did with endless horde

[cobalt granite]

Didn't notice, actually, cos im only looking for money at this point 😄

[brave drift]

You serious right now?

That still hasn't been fixed?

[twin comet]

they havent fixed it

[cobalt granite]

It's not, they fixed it

[radiant lance]

They said it's a visual bug only

[cobalt granite]

Just had a mission with less intensity and no mod at all

[brave drift]

It sure as hell didn't feel like a visual bug in the Pre order beta lol

[twin comet]

dunno I went into a standard heresy and saw it was suddenly on with tab and it still felt like a fuck load of specialists

dont think its fixed

[cobalt granite]

Oh yes

[brave drift]

I got used to Endless Horde Heresy

[twin comet]

melee still goes through toughness sometimes too, so they didnt really fix that either

[brave drift]

When I got to do normal Heresy, it was sooo easy.

[violet knoll]

so far the best playstyle for psyker ive found that is the more consistent is avoid FEATS for warp charges/BB. just get ones that help quell peril. Use a surge staff with crit modifier and high quell speed. With that build I can keep a 80-90% uptime on surge staff and perma stuff everything around me and the high crit will kills most elite in range with it

[twin comet]

but I need my BB feats for Pick N mix, dont worry im just out here sabotaging everyones heresy runs

[bold maple]

only good thing to come out of this patch is psyker cosmetics

and stat bar

[cobalt granite]

UI changes are neat

[brave drift]

You just need Psykinetic Aura and Kinetic Storm

[night marten]

100% toughness = no bleed through

[violet knoll]

this was much welcome

[rapid cypress]

It must be done.

[teal needle]

You can get infinite peril quell for voidstrike from perks, only build quell for surge staff

[violet knoll]

instead of just judging if a stat bar is to the left or right of a letter in name

[bold maple]

if you’re above 100 toughness you get a bug no?

that makes you take 100% dmg

[violet knoll]

voidstrike is the next best staff IMO

[rapid cypress]

correct. Gotta remove those toughness curios.

which sucks ‘cause I golded all my toughness curios

[bold maple]

vet is gigafucked

if a poxbuster poked them once they’re ded

[ornate hamlet]

hey, i'm looking for one high level psyker to help me for like 5-10 minutes with an ogryn penance, i just need the cdr feat your class has available

[rapid cypress]

The charging penance?

I tried helping an ogryn buddy with that. You may need 2 psykers. CDR stacks!

[brave drift]

Broo wtf?

[night marten]

oh shit didn't know

[polar fractal]

just saved my difficulty 3 run with pugs, because i have a forcesword with deflector. I will never talk shit about this weapon again lmao

[brave drift]

I tried it on Heresy, one burst will take 80% of your block stam lol

[polar fractal]

at least with the deflector perk on it

[weak galleon]

I wouldn't.

[violet knoll]

but if you are playing with randoms, then expect your zealot to be narnia, your orgyn to be bashing heads on some small horde, your vet attempting to shoot stuff but getted suppress so they just melee which leaves you the psyker to deal with everything coming from behind, or front

[polar fractal]

yeah i just got my psyker to level 18, i am staying the fuck away from heresy

[frigid frigate]

Don't attempt heresy till at least level 25

[violet knoll]

and the surge staff lets me just perma stun elites

[devout axle]

You're using Stam to block?

[brave drift]

2?

[frigid frigate]

Typo haha.

[radiant jolt]

Don't attempt heresy until at least after character creation

[polar fractal]

i am still rather clueless with what feats to take, ngl. my main is a ogryn, me dumdum

[bold maple]

use the deflection feat

that spends peril instead of stam

[polar fractal]

is soulblaze any good

[long wharf]

no

[brave drift]

Only if you commit to the build.

[polar fractal]

thought as much

[polar viper]

@polar fractal generally not, it can be with super crazy stack management but it's too much effort.

[brave drift]

Doesn't get good until level 30. Literally

[long wharf]

no, soulblaze is trash even if you commit to it

[bold maple]

you’re trash

[polar viper]

It has the highest DPS in the game

[long wharf]

oo, edgy

[polar viper]

Just too much work

[night marten]

wrong

[long wharf]

soulblaze doesn't have dps - the purge staff does

[harsh cobalt]

is chainsword available to psyker?

[twin comet]

ye

[polar viper]

Yes

[harsh cobalt]

nice

[brave drift]

[twin comet]

I have one that has +4 bleed stracks

[violet knoll]

what I run

[polar fractal]

running quietitude, psykinetic's wrath and cerebral lacerations atm had the most success with that so far...but only ran diffficulty 3 missions

[polar viper]

@violet knoll the quell one is kinda bad, the peril for blocking is busted af at level 20

[polar fractal]

yeah the first three feats are the same that i use atm

[brave drift]

what staff you using?

[polar viper]

You walk at full speed while quelling anyways on staff and it's a lot faster

[violet knoll]

mostly surge staff but i sometimes use voidstrike

[long wharf]

didn't that change today?

[polar fractal]

i use voidstrike and surge exclusively on my psyker ngl

[brave drift]

I use Trauma and Purgatus the most.

[rapid cypress]

🤔

[long wharf]

... trauma....

[polar viper]

Void is best rn overall

[polar fractal]

trauma is ass to aim in some situations, made me ragequit on that staff lul

[twin comet]

does psykinetic aura also apply to you? not just allies?

[brave drift]

Ye

[twin comet]

the wording is ass

[rapid cypress]

It is.

[warped linden]

fire staff?

[devout axle]

I am an ally of myself. I might in fact be my only ally.

[brave drift]

God damn I love Trauma staff.

[rapid cypress]

But if multiple psykers run it and pop heads then its much easier for like ogryn to get charge distance penance

[plush tendon]

so...when inspecting a weapon you can mouse over a stat to see details of what it does

[violet knoll]

if you have a zealot that doesn't live in Narnia and has a flamethrower, voidstrike can be a good option

[meager eagle]

the ultimate drip has been acquired my siblings

[weak galleon]

Where is this from

[brave drift]

when you play Purgatus staff on Heresy+, you're almost guaranteed a Zealot with Flamer.

[devout axle]

Actually kinda jealous. Wish I had friends.

[weak galleon]

ah nvm, they changed V button

[bronze sierra]

aye quilinia whered that helmet come from?

[rapid cypress]

Just gotta beg everyone on Heresy to not hit the boss

[meager eagle]

in the premium currency shop for like 3$ i think

[brave drift]

Is there private lobbies now?

[rapid cypress]

nop

[brave drift]

oh man

[bronze sierra]

so uhh about that ive had to fully reinstall the game so im kinda out of info, theres a premium shop?

[brave drift]

Cosmetic Cash Shop yes

[meager eagle]

yeah they added one, cosmetics are pretty sweet ngl

[bronze sierra]

oh noice

[violet knoll]

i just wish the flame staff had something different for primary fire. both primary and secondary fire the same close range attack kinda sucks

[brave drift]

Same. It does have good stagger though.

[twin comet]

so this for attempting Pick N Mix?

Have some ability cooldown curios too

[violet knoll]

surge has longer stagger and stuns all everything but bosses

[devout axle]

They kinda forgot that when they did the full release, they were supposed to have the rest of the games features too.