psyker-class

[timber shale]

kinetic flayer can even proc a brain burst off of a brain burst, it's wild

[primal aurora]

huh, there is a warframe update today

[visual adder]

My brothers in Emperor

The time draws near

[woven wigeon]

Basically what I expected

[visual adder]

Prepare yourselves

[dusty mirage]

litte gitz get the staff basic attack, unless i dont feel like aiming

[woven wigeon]

SHoutout to the Trauma freak

[eternal quest]

yeah 😄

[vocal agate]

Spacemom needs to wait

[cyan echo]

i saw a guy actually do alright with trauma in Heresey

[heavy hedge]

who is trauma heretic

[woven wigeon]

Ye tbh Trauma I wanna test more

I hear the damage is highest

Of the staves

[signal turret]

Chip damage removed if you get hit at full toughness? Guess im a god now

[woven wigeon]

Which is at least a niche

[bleak sonnet]

45% of people use a bad staff and then complain about psyker being bad

RIP

[rapid cypress]

Yeah but hopefully your team just kills em with a gun at that difficulty 😭 BB feels like the only long ranged tool sometime we have to kill sniper and by that time the sniper’s got a shot off

[ornate hamlet]

lasgun best stuff but i might the heretic one here...

[tawny nacelle]

spacemom needs to wait til i have satiated my lust for the 40k universe

[rapid cypress]

I do cri sometimes

[cyan echo]

Damage might be highest fully charged, in the very pixel that is in the center

[tacit jungle]

REALLY???? This was my biggest gripe

[dusty mirage]

going from a lasgun to trauma felt better than going from trauma to surgestaff

[weary wasp]

the one guy in the corner with trauma stick

[signal turret]

Too easy to keep enemies perpetually staggered once you get the hang of it, interested to see how high diff plays now

[devout axle]

He's just living his life

[woven wigeon]

And yeah no damage at full toughness

[dusty mirage]

chunking hordes, without a care in the world

[woven wigeon]

On builds where you gain toughness on force kills

If you run voidstrike

Ur immortal in a horde haha

[signal turret]

No damage at full toughness just means those rare mistakes arent punishing at all

[tacit jungle]

I'm very careless so I just kept getting all my HP chunked away on the zealot, psyker gang just sit inside the ogryn and spam voidstrikes never got hit

[weary wasp]

Not with melee chip damage, no

[teal needle]

Some adeptus mechanicus out there gets a chuckle every time they say their job title is Staff Engineer

[woven wigeon]

Also tbf, keep in mind during tough fights

There tends to be ranged enemies

[cyan echo]

i feel like it might get too easy without chip damage

[woven wigeon]

Which makes staying at full toughness hard

But ye we'll see! A lot of people were complaining about toughness bleedthrough, so

This is a nice compromise

We'll see how the balance feels

[sullen tusk]

agreed

[tacit jungle]

It's very nice, I think it'll solve all my problems with the system

[teal needle]

I want temp hp back

[hard breach]

wait they removed chip damage?

[ornate hamlet]

question: whenever a sibling hovers over head (right mouse button) and highlights heads. Do your mates in the squad see that?

[signal turret]

At full toughness

[long wharf]

they should just release the patch notes already, I don't want to watch a twitch stream

[woven wigeon]

At full toughness

[rapid cypress]

Oh so the freaking dredge that spawns 1 meter behind me and hits my toughness will no longer destroy my health pool. Pog.

[woven wigeon]

Jinx

[wide quest]

The time is nigh.

[weary wasp]

hmm

full toughness is nice then

[weak galleon]

I don't mind at all.
I just hope balance changes are well documented.

[woven wigeon]

It's gonna be really funny. Get hwacked for no damage, turn around, and lock eyes with the heretic

"All that, for a drop of blood?"

[dusty mirage]

my desire to sit through ads is lower than my desire to have someone read patch notes to me

[elfin jacinth]

did they release patch notes for the early access release

[tacit jungle]

Can we get our grubby hands on these patchnotes ourselves? I can't find((

[signal turret]

Not posted

[sullen tusk]

They said they are going to give us written patch notes, not sure where but it should be coming

[weary wasp]

withholding the information
I cant play and read at the same time HISSS

[woven wigeon]

I'm guessing they'll be released shortly after launch

I say

As someone with no insight

[tacit jungle]

I trust u

[rapid cypress]

Then that’s the truth

[dusty mirage]

I'd rather start late and go through the notes then go in blind

[woven wigeon]

I'm just mentally preparing myself for the nerf to my knife

[weary wasp]

so how hard do you think did bolter and power sword get busted?

[woven wigeon]

It's gonna be hard

To get through the day

[elfin jacinth]

Power sword is way too good lol

[sullen tusk]

It might break me, ngl. I use it on both veteran and psyker

[woven wigeon]

At least they can't take our animations

[fallow tulip]

Rejects, ETA Tertium, 07 minutes

[woven wigeon]

Best animations in the game are mine you can't take them

[sullen tusk]

haha they can slow them down

i wont speak of such things though

that way leads to damnation

[median meteor]

Our blessed masters whispers grow, brothers and sisters
Will you listen to them now?

you should

[glacial abyss]

iodhiawhiohawiodhioadwiohdawidhoawadwhiodihodwaihoadhiodaw

game about to

[sullen tusk]

Anyone here use Dueling Swords? If so, do you have a Mark preference?

[glacial abyss]

releas.e

[cyan echo]

I predict....immense server troubles in 6 minutes

[woven wigeon]

I would, but they have this really awful issue where during the attack recovery animation you cant swap weapon

Which hurts a lot

[brave drift]

5 minutes Siblings!

[cyan echo]

I foresee...."you are in queue position 65,000"

[woven wigeon]

If they get rid of that I'd absolutely use them

[devout axle]

Mk2. Dodge range, super fast attack speed, and very big headshot damage.

[tacit jungle]

hello did a patch just drop

[rapid cypress]

Mk has impact on gameplay? 🤔

[long wharf]

not yet

[woven wigeon]

Yup, variations in moveset and model

[devout axle]

Different variants have different attack patterns and stats.

[weary wasp]

do melee marks follow the same pattern as range? from fast to slow and hard hitting

[sullen tusk]

Oh yeah, movesets are very different. And the Mk5 has Defense statline instead of Cleave

[fallow tulip]

I prefer the force sword, have used the dueling ones, just don't prefer them

[signal turret]

Without the Force Sword or Chainsword I feel like my single-target damage on bosses is pitiful which is one of the big reasons I use it

[snow summit]

gogog

[woven wigeon]

Force sword I am interested in trying (especially if the knife change hurts)

[tacit jungle]

fucking 10mb/s limit BEGONE, I need SPEED

[woven wigeon]

The force sword special would let me be actually helpful in monster fights haha

[analog juniper]

Soon Sibling, we will be one with the Warp!

[sullen tusk]

Can I ask why? Deflector could be cool to use on them, but their damage is just really low and the push doesn't seem much to write home about after the nerf. That and the attack animations are funky, and the dodge range is short

[pallid ether]

think the release will get delayed or it will go up on time? 😛

[long wharf]

sad face, I'm not seeing an update download

[snow summit]

restart steam

[fallow tulip]

I enjoy playing with force sword and staff thereby not requiring ammo resupply

[woven wigeon]

The force sword's special lets it be the highest singletarget (melee) dps in the game

[eternal quest]

5.23 gb

[woven wigeon]

And apparently you can reliably proc kinetic flayer

With the special

Which sounds nice

[long wharf]

good call

[weary wasp]

the bloody veterans would not need so much ammo if they would stop missing for a minute

[sullen tusk]

I heard Chainsword/Eviscerator does double the special attack damage though

[devout axle]

It's special technically hits multiple times before the big chunk at the end, giving multiple opportunities to proc Kinetic Flayer.

[teal needle]

I've been enjoying chain sword over force sword. Force sword sucks at hordes so I'll only bring it if I got voidstrike

[snow summit]

42mb kappa

[mild lotus]

yes, the special actually does several ticks of dmg before bursting the target

more chances to procc kinetic flayer

[tacit jungle]

Aand it's patched. CAN'T WAIT. Time to fuck around with the build and find out

[fallow tulip]

For hordes I use the staff alt fire and then engage with sword

[primal aurora]

my ping sense is tingeling

[wide quest]

Do we have any patchnotes yet?

[knotty fjord]

NICE, great time for a patch

10/10

[weak galleon]

"starting download".
Can imagine the update servers rn.

[sullen tusk]

That's actually good to know

[steel musk]

I never got a chance to play the pre-game

[weak galleon]

the hamsters are in pain

[devout axle]

Chainsword certainly does not. I do not know about the Eviscerator however.

[hard breach]

Have fun siblings. Mine will be done in 20 mins ough

[mild lotus]

It's live, siblings. Press on!

[woven wigeon]

Hmm, from my experience force sword's higher than chain sword at least. Will have to test!

[devout axle]

Chainswords special does noticeably LESS damage than Force Swords.

[woven wigeon]

At least it gives Psyker something of more value to do in melee. I love my knife but, I'll admit I don't use it for the damage haha

[weak galleon]

5.23gb update?!

okay, nice.

i just hopes my weeklies didn't reset... that would be painful

[woven wigeon]

And ye the nice thing with voidstrike is you can use a melee that totally neglects crowd control

Since you can swap to voidstrike and snap off a quick blast to kill and CC

[wide heron]

I got one with bleed on non-weakpoint hits and im having a rough time replacing it cause the bleed is so reliable lol

[woven wigeon]

And then just keep blasting

[long wharf]

yes

[feral void]

i run force sword and purgatus

usually just M1 puff purgatus and then engage

[mild lotus]

the 5Go patch at release...

[lean cliff]

Yes we do

[mild lotus]

[woven wigeon]

My poor aussie internet is doing its best to download 😔

[dusty mirage]

patchnotes are at the bottom of the launch post

[woven wigeon]

This is classism, releasing it so close to launch, I swear

[mild lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-gif-15449645

[dusty mirage]

there were no mentions of force swords in notes that i saw

[woven wigeon]

Ye I'd hope the Eviscerator is at least comparable

Since it's a low mobility weapon

[floral charm]

is there new patch notes?

[woven wigeon]

It should have a strong niche

[feral void]

im stuck in queue

[ember skiff]

nice

[feral void]

prepare for the login queue boys

im #10k

[dusty mirage]

you mean "Press Update"

[austere wadi]

kinda worried about pysker since there was no real mention of them save for animation related stuff in the patch notes

[sly thunder]

No BB buffs

[round swan]

I got in just for the game to tell me i need to update. Steam didn't do it and neither did the launcher

[mild lotus]

Yes

[signal turret]

Tested it a lot in Meat Grinder during beta, FS special was way waaayyyy higher

[chilly ore]

16k queue already, jeez

[night marten]

we in there

[stoic hull]

restart steam

[dusty mirage]

oh nice, it reset my settings

[signal turret]

Chainsword special seemed to be faster though both in the charge up which could be animation cancelled halfway through and the follow through

[plush reef]

the patch notes are soooo disappointing holy shit

[burnt python]

19,000 ppl in queue lol

[mild lotus]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/warhammer-40-000-darktide-launches/62828

[tacit jungle]

something went wrong with my update and now I need to download 21gb

oof

[primal aurora]

weaklies are for the weak

[teal needle]

Congratulations on losing all progress on your 25 clears quest and getting a new 50 clear quest

[austere wadi]

mega sadge

[weak galleon]

Don't worry guys, there's a 20k queue.

you are not in a hurry anywhere anymore.

[analog juniper]

umm, I'm not seeing any brainburst changes...

[woven wigeon]

Oh hey the achieves were updated too, no longer 0.1% on most of them lol

[weak galleon]

you saw the notes? where?

[woven wigeon]

Lowest I can see in the 10 most recent is 1.8%

[hollow flame]

no new weapons were mentioned but theres hopefully a few new ones

[signal turret]

Download speed bouncing around like FTX's stock price

Steam servers getting hammered

[dusty mirage]

WH 20k que

[night marten]

I'm ingame, getting spammed with all the cosmetic unlocks lmao

[burnt python]

down to 13k from 19k in only a few min

[fathom zealot]

main menu music is so good

[pale pilot]

Fixed an issue where Kinetic Flayer could be activated when an enemy is damaged by a tick of the Soulfire debuff.

sad

[ember skiff]

look at that damn queue

[radiant lance]

Does ANYONE see a Two Handed Force Sword? None in my shop.

[crude garnet]

watching a stream at 22k queue 😄

[signal turret]

Relaunch steam

5.3gb update

[night marten]

numbers!!

[dusty mirage]

good thing they added crafting before release so you can get a properly rolled force sword /s

[analog juniper]

In the GrimDark™️ future of the 41st millennium, queues are endless hellscapes

[signal turret]

Legend

[burnt python]

Fixed damage vs. elite/horde/specials perks to 40/60/80% bonus damage

LOL that was intended??

10x multiplier to all the damage vs stats was correct

[signal turret]

Final Fantasy 14 prepared me for this

[ornate hamlet]

its dequeueing fast though

[safe spear]

Let them get more data/let people have time to actually learn the game/weapons before complaining about balance. Ive seen every class clear every difficulty consistently, no class is unplayably weak.

[round swan]

already in queue! verifying the game files worked for me, but ty for the tip!

[surreal egret]

OMG THEY NERFED CLIFFHANGER REQUIREMENTS

[long wharf]

I'm at #23766

oof

[wide quest]

Yez plez.

[frail geyser]

'There should now be more verticality when aiming with the Surge Force Staff'

[long wharf]

and no soundtrack download yet!

[frail geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/good-evil-star-wars-emporer-palpatine-darkside-gif-4624104

[long wharf]

this is what I'm #1 worried about, actually

[marsh wharf]

Did they nerf the cliffhanger penance?

[woven wigeon]

Ayyyy that new zone! My guess was right. Not gonna spoil it but it looks very cool

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/unintelligible-scott-steiner-wat-gif-14526127

[long wharf]

nope

no mechanics changes for psyker at all

[cobalt granite]

How do you get the Sienna eyes cosmetic?

Or where do you find it?

[long wharf]

yep, that's going to make some people upset for sure

[weak galleon]

she said patchnotes are up

where

[grim bay]

SECRET INFO FOR PSYKERS ONLY: VERIFY YOUR GAME FILES! OR YOU WILL GET BOOTED FOR CORRUPT FILE AFTER QUEUE

[glacial abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-team-fortress2-tf2-troll-scout-team-fortress2-gif-19317394

[silent wave]

well that was a shit update

[grim bay]

SECRET INFO FOR PSYKERS ONLY: VERIFY YOUR GAME FILES! OR YOU WILL GET BOOTED FOR CORRUPT FILE AFTER QUEUE

[dusty mirage]

the notes at the bottom of the most recent post. Its pretty sparse, expect shadow changes i guess.

[long wharf]

I was expecting to be able to download the soundtrack today, too 😦

[grim bay]

dont wait to find out after ;.;

[woven wigeon]

Why it gotta go so hard and be so scary

[grim bay]

i waited in 10k queue to get slapped by corrupt file patch, now in 26k queue XD

[long wharf]

18829

[spice oar]

LETS GOOOO

[dusty mirage]

I'll never understand watching a stream of a game you are actively playing at the moment.

[glacial abyss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832423825076912128/931056148918988800/hush.gif

[woven wigeon]

Ye I like that this queue is moving so fast at least

Much less painful than I remember ffxiv queues being lol

[signal turret]

23631 in queue

[long wharf]

that's a big deal, too

[signal turret]

good lord lol

[mild lotus]

how much?

[bitter abyss]

they made these 2 slightly easier.

They made 5 in 10 5 in 12, and the mosntrosity you have to do 90% now.

[sullen tusk]

It's a utility tool, for sure. Although the lacerate bug allowed some kiting with it

[mild lotus]

i gave the link up above

[long wharf]

14421

[sullen tusk]

Exactly. it's great for that

[burnt python]

my best cliffhanger attemp was 18/20 and it just gave me completion upon login due to the reduced requirements

[surreal egret]

dunno, i got it, prolly managed 10 pushes

[signal turret]

This is why I don't watch Twitch lol. Why watch people play games when I can just play games

[turbid olive]

oh dear lord, step aside siblings

[ornate hamlet]

queue 28k

[misty mist]

so... any new weapons in the shop?

[long wharf]

there should be something special for people that did the original penance 😠

[cyan echo]

Still a pain

[mild lotus]

You got it as soon as you logged in?

[ornate hamlet]

would love to know more about that backend

[mild lotus]

I had 15/20

[woven wigeon]

Ayyy that's awesome, glad your situation was accounted for

[dusty mirage]

Sometimes its a good way to gain knowledge as a meta develops, but this game isn't that complicated.

[surreal egret]

yes

[noble garden]

You guys are getting into queues? I'm still waiting for update to finish

[mild lotus]

Great

[burnt python]

ahh you're probably anti studen tloan forgiveness too huh

[long wharf]

knocking 20 enemies off a ledge wasn't that hard to do

[acoustic pine]

purgatus staff animations are a lot tighter

[mild lotus]

Excuse me, did we play the same game?

[weak galleon]

oh thank god weeklies weren't reset. yes.

[primal aurora]

wat?

[tidal adder]

Probably no balance changes on psyker right?

[weak galleon]

?!

[long wharf]

this isn't #politics, nice try

[analog juniper]

So siblings, are we supposed to assume FatShark hates brain burst and Psykers in general?

[acoustic pine]

wait I think the hitboxes are smaller too oof @primal aurora the AOE got nerfed a ton it looks like

[mild lotus]

I posted a few up above

[ornate hamlet]

lasgun best staff

[long wharf]

there are two maps where it's actually easy to do

[mild lotus]

Seems likely so

[long wharf]

just takes a little team coordination

[burnt python]

wow cliffhanger dropped from 20 enemies to 7

huge change

[tacit jungle]

wtf I just grinded the shit outta it

at least I got the bloody hood

[long wharf]

heh

[tawny nacelle]

i got in, and went to the nerw ingame store, was too fast or sumthin, it crashed and now im in queue again

[candid bobcat]

psyker still not worth playing rip

[long wharf]

5058

[ornate hamlet]

i too was once hoodless

[young summit]

well, the patchnotes seems disapointing for a Psyker

[teal needle]

Nothing too exciting in patch notes beside lightning staff fix and easier penance. I think I already have 7 knocked off

[young summit]

just bugfixes/expolits for it

[long wharf]

rip

[radiant lance]

I managed to log in (only to then crash), but I saw absolutely no new weapons for Psyker.
God damn it.

[noble trellis]

welp, brainburst received no changes lol

[woven wigeon]

Did they change the suicide bomber penance? Imo that was prob the most egregiously designed penance even if it's not the hardest

[noble garden]

Only thing i want for my psyker is the 2h force sword

[safe spear]

Psyker is fine there are just lots of bad Psyker players tbh, you'll #getgood eventually don't worry

[signal turret]

[analog juniper]

Railings no longer OP?

[long wharf]

and just like I thought, no mechanics changes for anybody upon release

[young summit]

no BB changes, no heat changes

[noble garden]

Whoops wrong reply 😄

[analog juniper]

[tidal adder]

But guys, the cosmetics look banging!!!

[radiant lance]

Sorry to say I didn't see any in the shop.

[long wharf]

all the cries of "it's just in beta! wait for release!" can go eat bags of dicks

2640

[frail geyser]

more than likely we might have a new tier of gear rating so give it some time on balance

we gotta see how it all shakes out

[tawny nacelle]

one day ill get in and stay in, if you know what i mean UwU 😉

[safe spear]

I play with Psykers on Damnation. They're fine. Have you tried not sucking? I hear that helps tremendously

[radiant lance]

This is literally the beta + cosmetics + few new maps.

[long wharf]

you're doing a lot of assuming

[weak galleon]

F.
They changed something about how Primary Target stats affect resulting damage.
My purple force sword is trash now

[gilded viper]

Maybe we’ll see new weapons or at least variants (horizontal swing force sword?)

[tawny nacelle]

what do you mean not sucking, i thought everyone liked oral support

[acoustic pine]

Idk I didn't play with purge staff that much before but it feels like the aoe is a lot smaller to me

[teal needle]

Don't really know how the weapon power scaling is going to impact anything. Exponential vs logarithmic can be a big change

[acoustic pine]

@weak galleon what do you mean?

[long wharf]

yes, yes it is, and that was what I was saying all along, that we were playing the actual state of the game, not some limited testing version

[grim bay]

anyone else keep getting error corrupt ifles upon getting in??

[weary wasp]

I see nothing about knife, force sword or brain burst

[radiant lance]

I literally didn't see any Psyker weapons in the shop. Classic.

[burnt python]

they added more weapon power details, awesome

[gilded viper]

Lol. Lmao even.

[night marten]

For purge staff users, feels like they reduced the secondary visual's radius so it's easier to see (though it seems like the actual effect radius hasn't been reduced)

[woven wigeon]

Fixed an issue where it was possible to dodge-slide-kite for an unintended amount of time with the Catachan Mk III Combat Blade.

[radiant lance]

Which was obvious

[weary wasp]

No. Might wanna check your file integrity

[long wharf]

and I'm in, and got 2500 premium currency

[safe spear]

They just handed out a 7 GB patch bro, relax.

[night marten]

also, I'm critting with the purge staff

[floral stump]

Alright Siblings, what good did they do with release?

[primal aurora]

How that trait is working for you?

[signal turret]

Elevation, the great enemy of the Surge Staff, has been defeated

[polar viper]

nothing to psyker lmao

[radiant lance]

Did you read the patch notes? Not much was actually added.

[polar viper]

still bad

[long wharf]

to anybody with half a brain yes, which is why it was so stupid of some people to say that things were going to be different upon release

[edgy plover]

Are the remaining unadded weapons in? Like two hander for psyker?

[polar viper]

nope

no weapons

crafting isn't finished either

nor is psyker fixed

[radiant lance]

I didn't see it in the shop myself.

[safe spear]

They made my Zealot less aids to play. They added new weapons. they added new maps. Psyker is fine, just lots of really bad players. I see Psykers on Damnation a lot, it's time to buckle up and learn how to get good

[long wharf]

solid 15 seconds of unlocks, nice

[flint sky]

Enjoy being staff CC slave forever with no build variety

[old notch]

templars is nobody posting psyker drip or is there none

[signal turret]

Surge Staff is undebatably asserting its dominance with the defeat of Elevation.

[radiant lance]

What new weapons?

[long wharf]

this proves you know nothing about psyker play

[analog juniper]

Inspect your weapons, guys

[safe spear]

Idk, people on the zealot channel mentioned 3 new guns. I'm not in yet though

[candid bobcat]

I love being a mediocre support

[radiant lance]

Holy shit

[mild lotus]

[safe spear]

I have Psyker teammates all the time on difficulty 5 who do great. You're right though, I don't play Psyker. #getgood

[weary wasp]

based

[weak galleon]

I have 18% Primary Target and 70% one. 18% came with a "blocks ranged attacks" perk, so i upgraded it. Damage is similar, 72% vs 74%.
there was about 10% difference on special attack agaisnt Crusher on Psykanium compared to the 70% one.
now it's 663dmg vs 786.

[radiant lance]

Welp, I didn't see anything new on Psyker. That might be the shitty RNG shop's fault though.

[weak galleon]

or maybe I'm wrong, Light attacks are still same as they were.

[flint sky]

I LOVE BEING SURPLUS TO REQUIREMENTS. I WANT TO BE TOTALLY IRRELEVANT ON LAUNCH

[signal turret]

We in there

[polar viper]

no psyker changes, still pathetic

[safe spear]

Step 1. Get good

Step 2. Dont suck

[acoustic pine]

@weak galleon they nerfed the special probably

[flint sky]

Staff CC slave isnt hard

its just not fun

[gilded viper]

More than likely. Getting new psyker stuff can be such a drag

[flint sky]

stop playing on malice

[safe spear]

I play on Damnation

I think you just suck my guy

[teal needle]

Bruv don't bother, they've been screeching about this for like a month nonstop

[safe spear]

Yeah im just fucking with them until I get in

[signal turret]

Jesus Christ 30s of unlock sounds lmao

[mild lotus]

I'm in

[unkempt wadi]

do any1 know if the penance for having warp charges for like 300 seconds got fixed

[signal turret]

its still going

[unkempt wadi]

cuz originally u couldnt get it on malice

[analog juniper]

same, lol

[flint sky]

epic build variety in the class theres the staff slave, the staff slave, the staff slave and the staff slave

[ornate hamlet]

lasgun

recon

[safe spear]

Theres more variety if you had any semblance of skill

[silent wave]

if you're using a lasgun play vet lmao

[burnt tapir]

Staff is the best part of the class. BB is dull.

[flint sky]

What am I doing wrong praytell

[ornate hamlet]

not sure. i like bb and lasgun

[analog juniper]

@safe spear are you one of those low tier veterans cosplaying as psyker? Or do you claim BrainBurst is good? or both?

[ornate hamlet]

and cc with f...

[long wharf]

he's just a troll, ignore him

[ornate hamlet]

psyker is the better veteran. fight me

[burnt tapir]

Surprised there were 0 psyker balance changes

[candid bobcat]

You aren't holding right click with surge staff enough

[flint sky]

I can clear damnations with psyker easily, doesnt mean its a good class

[long wharf]

he doesn't know how a psyker plays, so he's just talking shit

[flint sky]

No I love being baited

[signal turret]

Seems like they refreshed the entire UI

[grim dock]

did they only add 2 additional seconds for a total of 12 seconds instead of 10 for the heresy 5 different spec/elite for the penance?

[silent wave]

BB is pretty much useless after malice though

[long wharf]

well then have at you

[safe spear]

I'm a zealot one trick who plays in Damnation who has lots of Psyker teammates who do great. So I'm just in here laughing at the random bads who complain and suck and think they know more than the devs

[teal needle]

Lemme know if any weapons get noticeable damage changes with the new power scaling

[weary wasp]

Crash after getting in.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[flint sky]

🫡

[glacial abyss]

Ong

[austere wadi]

nope, its the exact same as far as I can tell. 0 changes to pysker despite the huge amount of complaints

[flint sky]

I will complain every day until psyker is good

[analog juniper]

so you agree brainburst loses effectiveness sharply on heresy and above?

[austere wadi]

fatshark doesnt listen to their players until a year after launch

[woven wigeon]

My bald head clips through the imperial edition Psyker helmet

I've literally never seen this clipping issue

It's impressive

[safe spear]

Yet you still turn up for every single one of them. They must know what theyre doing

[glacial abyss]

Big head

[next rivet]

bald and foolish, indeed

[gilded viper]

They likely don’t think psyker is in as bad of a spot as the whiners believe

[glacial abyss]

you must have never played bannerlord

[candid bobcat]

💯

[glacial abyss]

Psyker isn’t as bad as the complainers think

[austere wadi]

my first time being live with the launch but yeah, go off my guy

[weary wasp]

aaand here we go, waiting in que again

[glacial abyss]

just gotta get good

[analog juniper]

Clipping is an indication of the taint of chaos, and therefore you are now a Heretic. Prepare for purgatus

[austere wadi]

pysker for sure ain't bad, its just incredibly annoying to play.

[teal needle]

Dog wtf are you even talking about, I'm talking about the changes to logarithmic power scaling on certain gear mentioned in the patch notes

[warm meteor]

people with faster internet: did we get any new weapons

[signal turret]

Game just crashed inspecting my weapon. Hate to see it.

Right back to the gulag

[steel musk]

...

I got through the queue of 30k people

[ornate hamlet]

damn waited through a 27k queue just to crash 30s into loading in

[burnt python]

framerate is better in hub for me even with a shitlload of ppl in

[analog juniper]

idk, back in the 40k deep queue after inspecting my weapon like my sibling above

[steel musk]

only to hit the no button

[vague trail]

I hope i don't do that

[lean cliff]

there are no new weapons in the patch notes, so I'm guessing no

[bleak sonnet]

lmao psyker penances so easy now

Gwp

[steady sand]

what they changed?

in them?

penances ofc.

[amber cosmos]

Good. They were bullshit difficult before

[weary wasp]

crash gang

[sharp veldt]

Cliffhanger is 7, boss only has to take 90% damage from brain burst, you have 12 seconds to brain burst the elites now

[austere wadi]

only need to deal 90% of the monsters hp with brainburst rather than all of it now

[burnt python]

fuckin dunce cap

[toxic pecan]

[No changes to Feats or Brain Burst or any improvement to the damage on staves]

I'm sorry, siblings. See you on the other classes for a while longer yet.

[austere wadi]

the only unchanged penance is the suicuide bomb one

[autumn jolt]

why do i have 5 empty headgears

[raw otter]

fucking rise up psykers

[teal needle]

I had 7 for the cliffhanger penance before anyone see if the change was retroactive? Would love to log into a hat that isn't "proud 2b beta male"

[sharp veldt]

It is

I had 17 and got it upon logging.

[burnt python]

it is retroactive

[teal needle]

[signal turret]

They all look different to me, 5 flavors of magnificent baldness

[weary wasp]

hmmmm

[autumn jolt]

i have been enlightened

[weary wasp]

assassination boss counts s monstosity too

[floral stump]

Does it now?

[sharp veldt]

Ye

[floral stump]

This has possibilities

[pallid ether]

you can now purge heretics with 5 different looking mouths

[floral stump]

Download faster

[warm meteor]

so i havent faced a daemonhost. is it true it just goes after 1 person at a time till they are dead

[sharp veldt]

Yep

[signal turret]

At the very least the game still seems as crashy as beta was so queue moves quick

[warm meteor]

heh

funny mini boss

[weary wasp]

que is going fast but i swear to emperor if it crashes again, im doing the exact same thing over so hard

[vague trail]

Just got an error signing in.... back to the queue ig....

[signal turret]

Lots of people inspecting their weapons just to get thrown back into the gulag

[sharp veldt]

Just have your Ogryn With Shield™ approach it

[acoustic pine]

This worked before lol

[warm meteor]

im curious how long a psyker with the "peril on block" talent can survive

[potent zodiac]

wtf i just got cliffhanger when logging in

[weary wasp]

it also corrupts everyone while it is live kekw

[primal aurora]

ffs, 15 min waiting queue and crash during menu browsing

[forest meadow]

Have they changed the Pick'N'Mix Penance for Psyker? Anyone?

[signal turret]

With the Deflector perk on FS, quite awhile

[teal needle]

The new weapon inspect screen too powerful 😢 fatshark was just trying to protect us with their obfuscating bars and icons

[sharp veldt]

Peril on block only works til crit peril so

[sinful robin]

12 seconds now

[frozen burrow]

they reduced it to 7 enemies from 20

[teal needle]

Look at what you have unleashed in your hubris

[potent zodiac]

BASED

[forest meadow]

Two seconds more smh

[warm meteor]

so the actual daemon doesnt passively give corruption but the filtered daemon does?

[signal turret]

On the Emperor's name. New weapon screen is like an EVE online players wet dream

[long wharf]

yeah, seeing actual numbers is so nice

[floral stump]

Can I spin the Weapon in place with a counter?

[signal turret]

My degree was in MIS instead of computer science for a reason

[primal aurora]

kamikaze 3 enemies still there, dang, would need to grind for it

[long wharf]

the numbers themselves don't really match the UI style, though

[polar viper]

Yeah now you can see the stats of how useless our class is

[weary wasp]

slaanesh daemon infects everyone with the horni

[polar viper]

Since they didn't buff or change anything like everyone asked for

[signal turret]

We haven't quite reached that level of technological prowess, but one day...

[floral stump]

You know, I really wanna meet the person who was so obsessed with brewing the perfect beer that they caught the attention of Slaanesh. That beer would be perfection.

[weary wasp]

got two zealot penances completed just by logging in.
Skill

[polar viper]

Yeah they lowered penenaces requirements

[fathom zealot]

weapon damage stats lets gooo

[burnt python]

cracks me up how many of you think psyker is in a bad spot, it's confusing cus the core mechanics aren't great, but as a whole the class is very strong

[polar viper]

It's really not

[weary wasp]

its bad COMPERATIVELY

[polar viper]

Unless you play only on malice and below

[floral stump]

As long as the air around me smells like Ozone I am happyt

[polar viper]

Then sure

[signal turret]

Friendly reminder to those posting their weapons to not inspect it unless you want to get thrown back into the gulag

[burnt python]

i play on damnation and i have done so with all classes

[mental zinc]

you are delusional

[burnt python]

psyker is strong

[woven wigeon]

It's good compared to Zealot and Ogryn imo

The staffs are good beans

[polar viper]

Herecy and up, it's dogshittiness shines

[weary wasp]

granted, compared to everything else

[burnt python]

psyker has the best horde clear in the game which matters a lot in high difficulties

[polar viper]

It really doesn't

It has cc

[mental zinc]

zealot flamer is better

[polar viper]

And becomes a cc bot

[warm meteor]

its not like psyker is unplayable

[teal needle]

BB is the only thing that drops off after malice. Psyker is worse than vet sure but so is everyone that isn't vet

[polar viper]

But it's no where near zealot or knifegryn

[burnt python]

voidstrike deletes hordes before a flamer can even touch them lol

[uncut violet]

Careful clicking on the Force Sword special on the inspection page siblings, it crashed my game

[weary wasp]

false. flamer exists

[flint sky]

doesnt make it a good class or fun

[polar viper]

On malice sure

[jovial quail]

Anyone have a problem where they can't get rid of the cosmetic notification? I've clicked on literally every cosmetic option there is

[mental zinc]

Until 1 elite is in the mix on higher difficulty

[woven wigeon]

I wouldn't say that

[flint sky]

not whats being discussed

[woven wigeon]

Voidstrike I love on Heresy

Destroys crowds and has CC

[polar viper]

Check stances?

[jovial quail]

I diddd yarghhh

[wide quest]

At least enemy and environmental damage won't ruin you anymore, that's the biggest problem I had.

[jolly wasp]

Vet can't stun everything in sight, why are you trying to fill the role of a vet when you are not one? Fill the role of a psyker and provide support for your team.

[burnt python]

charged voidstrike does not stop on elites

[floral stump]

I think that is spelled Waaagh

[polar viper]

Weapons too

[teal needle]

I'll discuss whatever I want

[mental zinc]

Maulers.

[night marten]

Some meatgrinder testing (Malice) of 6 warpchanges with Ascendant Blaze against some elites/specials https://gfycat.com/assuredanguishedafricanwilddog

[burnt python]

It stops on carapce only, then explodes in a cone behind the carapace

[floral stump]

Charged voidstrike blows up once it touches an elite i thought

[sharp veldt]

Armored elites ye

[warm meteor]

thats fine. but the spotlight actually is false advertisement so thats why people were mad the psyker wasnt damage focussed

[burnt python]

play psyker for horde clear and not special deletion and you will have a much better time, i promise

[mental zinc]

Maulers, mutants, reapers, all spawn frequently inside hordes

[polar viper]

That's the issue, the class and skill tree is built around elite killing

[burnt python]

it's not though, it just appears that way

[floral stump]

All I need is a Nice two handed Force Weapon, preferably a Scythe or Polearm and a way to burn people alive

[polar viper]

But it's not what they're good at lmao

[floral stump]

I am not complicated

[burnt python]

sry wrong reply

[teal needle]

It's based on armor, which most elites do have. But not necessarily 1 to 1 on that

[silent wave]

my biggest gripes with psyker are the fact that BB is more or less irrelevant after malice and that warp charges are a pain in the ass to maintain

[warm meteor]

so you want a pyromancer psyker

[silent wave]

some reworks to a few of the perks would be nice too

[burnt python]

yes BB and warp charges are objectively bad on 4/5 difficulty

[long wharf]

and that's the problem - it's advertised as elite killer, but it's not

[burnt python]

the staves & melee options are fantastic

[signal turret]

is this a good Voidstrike or nah

[warm meteor]

yeah melee and staves are fine

[burnt python]

Like I said, the core mechanics aren't good, but that does not make the class bad - it just do esn't play how it appears to

[floral stump]

I am not too proud to admit it.

[polar viper]

Transfer peril is all you need

[silent wave]

i mean, I think some of the staves could use some work

trauma is useless

[polar viper]

And the skill trees, and brain burst

And warp stacks

Pretty much the whole thing

[silent wave]

the purge staff feels pretty weak too for anything but trash

[olive ember]

HOLY SHIT THEY FIXED THE 7/7 BUG

[teal needle]

Yeah that's worth using

[faint sigil]

urinal helmet pog

[warm meteor]

so basically what ur saying is. the weapons are fine but once we get a new psyker class with the same weapon options this class will suck

[jolly wasp]

it is even weak for hordes on anything higher than malice

[silent wave]

true enough, it does feel like it falls off pretty hard too

[night marten]

I don't agree

[burnt python]

maybe? i don't know? i can't see the future, there will probably be futher changes to this class

[signal turret]

Thought the same thing lmao that helmet looks like a port-a-potty

[jolly wasp]

then you are bad.

[burnt python]

all i know is i'm playing psyker on damnation and pulling more than my weight

[stoic roost]

help https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/9ca6336f8dc2c008ef815e0342eb2797-png.jpg

[faint sigil]

also this helmet clips pretty badly when running

[stoic roost]

save me

[lost crown]

Anyone notice the Imperial Edition Psyker upper body gear doesn't match what was advertised? Kinda lame...

[silent wave]

but then that leaves void and surge, when two of the unique weapons aren't good after diff 3, as well as the core parts of the class, the class is pretty weak

[teal needle]

Surge staff sucks at hordes, if you bring it you need a crowd clearing melee

[stoic roost]

5 months remaining on my install

[silent wave]

idk. psyker is my favorite class but it feels kind of mediocre right now

[jolly wasp]

void is sub-par to, voidstaff is like if you have 2 psykers and you are missing the veteran, but veteran would always get picked first in a line-up

[burnt python]

that is simply not true lmao. I think void > purge for hordes but purge is very good as well, and you don't need a horde clear melee with it

[signal turret]

They definitely nerfed Surge Staff damage on Flak targets a bit, or weapon perks actually give the damage increase they say that they do now

[burnt python]

voidstaff is horde clear & cc, completely different to vets role

[teal needle]

I typed purge instead of surge🪦

[silent wave]

ahh, so the class is bad unless you run a stunbot setup

got it

[warm meteor]

the purge staff actually has a weird damage buff vs metal wearing enemies. so its weakest dps is vs poxwalkers

[jolly wasp]

power sword clears better than void trash

[signal turret]

Takes me 2 alt-fires to kill flak grunts now instead of 1

[burnt python]

infinite range and more dps on void, simply not true

[ember skiff]

how i know yall soft

[jolly wasp]

if you think voidtrash is a good weapon you probably just arent good at video game theorcrafting

[burnt python]

void clears hordes before most other classes can even begin to attack them

[tidal pewter]

they made penances easier

[onyx leaf]

real shit

[grim bay]

Jesus we've been wrong all along. a 320grey with 90%dmg does more damage than a 500orange with 80%dmg

[jolly wasp]

imagine using a psyker to specialize in horde clearing what a joke

[weak galleon]

that was common knowledge tho?

[wide quest]

Wait what, I thought it should be way more than that.

[signal turret]

Building your entire class around clearing a horde of trash mobs is not the way

Surge Staff supremacy

[grim bay]

@weak galleon not if you played darktide, read the notes, or played vermintide. but yea. otherwise common knowledge

[silent wave]

yeah thats pretty common knowledge, bars are all that matters for damage

[jolly wasp]

only someone who doesn't understand tide games would think its a good idea to build off horde clear

[warm meteor]

i completely misread a comment i commented to since i read "purge" as surge but also spelt it purge in my reply

[jolly wasp]

also a bolter just outperforms all psyker dmg anyways, especially if it has reload perks

[weak galleon]

I mean i played VT2, and first thing i tried to figure out in DT if that rating means anything.
It doesn't - it's just a sum of all your stats, and it's up to devs to give arbitrary rating value to eac hstats.

The base stats are most important, if they are non-rerollable.

[signal turret]

Force Sword special is definitely faster now

[burnt python]

lmao, I've got 1k hours in vt2 mostly cata, and 80 hrs in darktide so far mostly heresy/damnation - I've got a pretty good idea how to play the game

[warm meteor]

i feel stupid, unloved and unwanted

[signal turret]

Significantly faster

[wheat jolt]

They finally did it and made the changes we wanted and gave us numbers lol

[silent wave]

stats as well as the blessing and traits

[teal needle]

Ax pairs very well w voidstrike. Honestly have an easier time killing single targets w ax than force sword

[wide quest]

Nurgle needs you

[weak galleon]

yes, thats what i meant.

[night marten]

@jolly wasp https://gfycat.com/cautiousjitteryannelid damnation horde clear with purge staff. it's doable

[silent wave]

the best way to get great high quality gear is to buy high power level gray gear and upgrade it

[weak galleon]

and value of those traits varies.
So you better just look at the base stats.

[burnt python]

some ppl are so caught up in theory crafting and looking at the skill tree they forget to actually play the game

[stoic roost]

lol right

[jolly wasp]

40% peril to clear a cpl horde KEKW

[silent wave]

3 second charge lmao

[warm meteor]

i been playing ;-;

[jolly wasp]

Ogryn already cleared it by the time he finished charging

[night marten]

There's only so many enemies in the meatgrinder, but I guess you know that

[warm meteor]

its the only game i do play since i got it

[half river]

Such is our fate 😔✊

[silent wave]

or the vet. or the zealot

[teal needle]

Purgatus <<<< void strike

[warm meteor]

i couldnt find ur pfp on google

[silent wave]

flame staff is the coolest one imo but it's pretty bad

[dusky whale]

how do i use weapon cosmetics?

[half river]

Siblings I am seeing voidstrike slander

[jolly wasp]

"weak spot hit"... his purge staff isnt getting any weak spot hits my dude. I think you're just terrible at theorycrafting, regardless of your afk hours in tide.

[silent wave]

man I'm really annoyed by the lack of changes to BB though

feels so unfun on heresy+

[novel bridge]

Looks like a clipping issue - You can see the gold-winged metal plate kinda, but it's being covered by the cloth on the torso. You can see the I symbol is in the same place, and the leather strap going across the body is there, but clipping through too. Will likely be fixed

[burnt python]

Sorry, I thought you were still going on about void - enjoy your theory crafting i'll keep clearing damnation

[night marten]

damn, guy walks in here toxic af right after release. easy block

[jolly wasp]

*getting carried thru damnation

Fixed it for you

[warm meteor]

why do we fight siblings

[floral stump]

Did we get a Toxic Sibling?

[burnt python]

gonna play a quick game and get back to work, enjoy siblings

[subtle robin]

did we get buffed or nah?

[long wharf]

nah

[silent wave]

no

[mental zinc]

Nah

[warm meteor]

no

[finite lynx]

flexin that launch day DRIP

[jolly wasp]

Fatshark won't fix the psyker class if we have a bunch of 3rd grade math class failures coming in here claiming purge is good

[silent wave]

still pretty bad

[subtle robin]

it looks cool though

[warm meteor]

when does the daemonhost start showing up

im scared

[long wharf]

purge would be better if we got a chance for warp charge whenever an enemy affected by soulblaze dies

[finite goblet]

you do.

[warm meteor]

im level 15. will i die on malice difficulty ;-;

[jolly wasp]

true, not like I have some weird hatred for it, I want it to be good ... it just sucks

[cobalt granite]

How do you get the Sienna eyes cosmetic?
Or where do you find it?

[long wharf]

no, only if enemy is killed by soulblaze

[mild lotus]

Siblings, don't check your force sword's special attack's damage tab in the weapon inspection menu. It will crash you game.

[silent wave]

yeah the dot itself needing to kill is super lame and doesn't synergize well

[inner ridge]

Is this worth buying?

[finite goblet]

(from all sources) purge puts soulblaze on the things it burns.

[jolly wasp]

imagine 2 psykers with it, who knows who procc'd what..

[night marten]

maybe, but you're killing way more things in hordes than your team mates with a purge staff

[silent wave]

unless they run a flamer

flamer does more damage and has more range

[warm meteor]

it does feel bad the flamer does better then the staff even with the build supporting the staff

[jolly wasp]

woops Zealot with a flamer joined the chat, Purgatory staff is now utterly pointless

[tropic halo]

i would buy it

[night marten]

yea, but there's also an ult with an even wider range that applies the effect with Ascendant Blaze

[long wharf]

sure, but void kills that horde faster than purge does

[half river]

It took me a while to find it again but search up "jchiscool astolfo", it's an Imgur link and it's not actually nsfw I was just being silly :P

[teal needle]

Or a void strike or power sword

[night marten]

I disagree

[subtle robin]

you are wrong

[long wharf]

you can disagree all you want, you're still wrong

[silent wave]

oh he said i disagree

your argument is invalid

[night marten]

lol, think what you want homies

[radiant lance]

So has anyone seen a new weapon for Psyker yet?

[warm blade]

penance uniform

[long wharf]

no new weapons for psyker

[teal needle]

You can disagree all you want lmao it's an objective fact

[jolly wasp]

"insert uneducated opinion without providing evidence"

[warm blade]

whatever this is

[jovial quail]

Wasn't brain burst 3 seconds? It feels close to 2 seconds now

[devout kelp]

If you like the Surge staff

[silent wave]

still about 2.5

[burnt python]

you are a clown lmao, you are arguing with everyone and providing evidence for nothing while others are talkign about in game experience and providing clips

[tropic halo]

i think thats the armor from buying the dlc pack?

[warm meteor]

void definitely is faster at killing hordes but relies on corridors for max damage. im sure it outdamages even without a corridor but its true its DPS is stage dependant

[signal turret]

You dedicate your staff to killing a horde of trash mobs, I dedicate my staff to killing priority flak targets & cc, we are not the same

[warm blade]

it's so baaaad, the leather strap even clips into you how

[subtle robin]

the cone explosion is ok even without a corridor

[jolly wasp]

go back to getting carried and just use w.e you want, voidstaff isn't that bad, it would just be better to take a different class if you're running it...

[rapid cypress]

wait where y’all turn on dmg numbers? 🤔

[restive cave]

So.. no psyker buffs?

[tropic halo]

yeah its why i didn't ge tit myself, especially when you can just use the money to buy the actual outfits you want now

[restive cave]

Only in Meat Grinder

[rapid cypress]

ooo

[jolly wasp]

Surge is the only thing that would make a group actually want to have a Psyker, otherwise its like oh great we got that psyker who thinks he is a vet/zealot.

[warm meteor]

purgatus does alot of DOT, but it feels like it needs more base damage to function well? lots of peeps will kill your target before you since the damage is so DOT dependant

[burnt tapir]

I really thought there'd be some balance changes tbh

[devout kelp]

They bugged the Imperial outfit? Rip.

[signal turret]

An even worse Zealot/Vet at that

[restive cave]

same

[burnt python]

surge falls off hard in heresy and damnation due to lack of target priority and target limit, but keep on theory crafting

[silent wave]

boring ass staff lmao

[half river]

Purgatus is very cool for softening the horde

[warm blade]

the dlc pants for psyker it's a worse version of the storm witch duty one

[signal turret]

I just want all my siblings to prosper within the light of the Surge Staff.

[weak galleon]

for DPS - damage value too low.

[dull stratus]

Yo has psyker gotten any new weapons on launch?

[tiny marsh]

They have health bars now?

[restive cave]

They didn't announce

[warm meteor]

apparently not

is big sad

[silent wave]

surge is shot for dps anyway

[signal turret]

My shop was full of guns

[rapid cypress]

Surge does fine in them but ok 🥰

[dull stratus]

Aww I thought we were gonna get the two handed psyker sword 😦

[signal turret]

Lol I just posted a gif of me 2-shotting flak grunts in damnation scaled diff

[restive cave]

Nobody's playing psyker at high-levels for dps

[burnt tapir]

No crafting, no balance changes. Are any new weapons in?

[signal turret]

I would again ask what the practicality is of wasting your staff slot on clearing trash mobs

[silent wave]

okay? still locked to 6 random targets

[jolly wasp]

You understand surge isn't supposed to be used at full charge and you can easily chain stun specific targets? I do it constantly and my entire job is to pin down disablers before they reach my team, I also focus down armored targets with BB+Quicken and let the Zealot/Vet take care of what thye are good at instead of just being a pepega running around thinking I'm doing something with my 3 second charge fireball that does puny damage compared to actual damage classes.

[burnt python]

because it frees up your zealot and veteran to delete elites & specials quicker, improving the flow of your entire team

[steel musk]

How do you charge the sword?

[warm meteor]

perhaps its like vermintide, where those hordes are actually more dangerous then the elites

[burnt tapir]

For Purg? Unlimited ammo/uptime, also melts non-crushers.

[steel musk]

all it says is a 5 and the words charge

[warm meteor]

cuz i mean, how often did chaos warriors really kill people?

[signal turret]

It's not tho. I can force sword block shove bully an entire horde

[subtle robin]

did they fix the broken first trait?

[teal needle]

Melee is a perfectly viable solution for dealing with elites?

[rapid cypress]

I have it bound to Q but I think default its MB3… or MB5? You can check in keybinds :)

[warm meteor]

the shove only hits 1 target at a time, the push hits them all tho

[steel musk]

ohhh ok

[jolly wasp]

I am convinced anyone arguing this is either lying about what tier they clear consistently or is getting outright carried by better players.

[burnt python]

surge is less spammable than void and cannot choose targets, and is limited to 6 on low charge - meaning you are very likely to not stun the important target you need to stun when its in a horde

[fossil karma]

I got a question with the game finally launched did they manage to fix the fire staff? I got the crash bug back in the beta

[wide quest]

Ruin voidstrike if your team is shit at horde clear, surge if they're good at it. Boom world peace achieved, I guess?

[burnt python]

you're also not considering that void is a knockdown machine

[signal turret]

block shove is just the terminology for your basic block + light attack, I dont mean the peril push

[silent wave]

idk, I should give surge some more runs but I found it to be the most boring option of the 4 while I was leveling

also give staves an actually good special

[radiant lance]

Are there literally no new weapons? What?

[rapid cypress]

oh you don’t like swinging your staff?

[silent wave]

the shitty melee is useless 100% of the time

[restive cave]

Yeah, surge is definitely more boring to play but it's the most useful for your team

[tropic halo]

Why are we debating so hard rn when the game just came out btw? im downloading the patch atm.

[subtle robin]

if it's in the back of a horde, it's not a priority target

[warm meteor]

does the force swords push have special properties?

[signal turret]

Psyker is a support class, I feel like if mowing down people is your preferred vibe you've picked the wrong class

[warm blade]

stores continuing their traditions to not sell force weapons while I'm a psyker

[burnt python]

it doesn't have to be in the back, surge hit what it wants to hit lol. sometimes it will randomly skip around enemies in your face. Surge is still godo but it leaves you more reliant on your team than others

[teal needle]

Gearing based on your team's needs? Sounds like heresy, go back to doing whatever it is that smart people do and bother us not!

[mental zinc]

Psyker is advertised as elite killer

[tropic halo]

Just use the staff that makes you happy and have fun. Fuck the meta.

[silent wave]

there shouldn't be a "support" class when you can run 4 of them

[jolly wasp]

You can use void if you want, it's objectively worse at filling the Psyker's role of utility + support than Surge and doesn't fill the role of DPS nearly as well as other classes. You absolutely can choose targets with Surge and by not charging surge you can get up to 2 stuns off.

[silent wave]

this

[restive cave]

It doesn't play like that at higher levels as BB doesn't scale

[signal turret]

Unfortunately it is in no way, shape, or form an elite killer

[restive cave]

Unfortunately.

[subtle robin]

and also your teammates

[signal turret]

Veterans do that job 1000x better

[jolly wasp]

Veteran was actually

[warm meteor]

you replied to the wrong person

[restive cave]

Psyker can be an elite/specials killer at t1 and t2

At t3 it's iffy

[mental zinc]

Sure but that doesnt justify fatshark pushing us into support when theres not even a need for it

[burnt python]

woops sry

[restive cave]

T4-6 you're playing CC

No way about it, sorry

[signal turret]

Have you gone into 4-5s with a Surge Staff psyker lol

[wide quest]

I shall support the support that is also supporting the support that is supporting me. 4 psyker's in a nutshell.

[signal turret]

I would go so far as to say its a carry

[warm meteor]

wait does the forceswords block and push have special properties?

[jolly wasp]

Most psykers try to brainburst hordes so I wouldnt be surprised if he hasn't

[warm meteor]

i thought it was just an animation

[silent wave]

exactly. nothing dies but at least you have 4 "supports"

[keen sigil]

the psyker cosmetics in the shop look quite shite

[silent wave]

calling it a support is a cope imo

[rapid cypress]

Elites & specials malding when I pull out the surge staff 😩

[tropic halo]

I mean people argue all day in here about which staff to use but it seems like people can make whatever staff they're using work for t4 and above. I dont think the games that super unforgiving on that front

[rapid cypress]

Penance cosmetics rock though

[signal turret]

But thats what it is. Deal with reality as it comes, not as you wish it to be

[wide quest]

They do die but we just take our sweet jolly time with it.

[junior ruin]

any new weapons?

[rapid cypress]

got the chest piece from soloing the boss on malice 😌 slay

[unkempt locust]

What to do if im stuck at 6/7 missions on "mind over matter"?

[sinful robin]

no.

[signal turret]

If they rework Psyker it's identity can change, until then it is a support class

[subtle robin]

these people are getting carried unfortunately

[junior ruin]

rip 😦

[silent wave]

right, if they rework it. right now it's shown as an elite and special sniper, but it doesn't do the job

[warm meteor]

@signal turret what makes the force swords block push special compared to other melees?

[wide quest]

Wait you can solo the boss on malice now?

[keen sigil]

only surge and voidstrike is good,flame is trash, technically trauma is decent dmg and stagger but the charge and trageting is cursed

[wide quest]

What is this heresy

[echo drum]

most of psykers kit is just very tedious still

[silent wave]

you have to play support to make the class work, but it isn't a support innately

[finite lynx]

Flame is not trash wtf

[warm meteor]

i am so confused

[signal turret]

Seems to be wider ime and occasionally knocks hordes completely off their feet

[subtle robin]

push attack staggers everything immediately

[finite lynx]

Flame is fking fantastic, its just short range which most Psykers aren't used to

[signal turret]

Paired with Deflector perk and Kinetic Deflection feat if you hold down block as you rez youre basically an Ogryn

[rapid cypress]

For a penance. Wait is it malice or heresy? i forget LMAO i always call it 1-5… I did it on 4.
‘Cause no one queued for difficulty 5 😩

[dull stratus]

Dayum we didnt get the two handed sword for psyker from trailer T_T

[unkempt locust]

how to get more than 6/7 on mind over matter? oO

[warm meteor]

i must test its base properties

[primal aurora]

not anymore I think

[warm meteor]

ive been using the chainsword

[burnt tapir]

Load in, check shop, 15 flavors of las/autogun. 0 Force weapons.
It's just as beautiful as I remember

[subtle robin]

did they nerf it? what?

[weak galleon]

You can put even berserkers on their backs.

[signal turret]

Imma be salty if they change this 😦 im still looking at things in meat grinder

[weak galleon]

but aiming it in a horde is pain

[signal turret]

Very true

[jolly wasp]

Psyker is NOT listed as the elite/special killer... VETERAN is.

straight from fatshark:
KEY_FEATURES
Effective vs. Elite enemies

[warm meteor]

i know the push attack but thats single target, and the original comment was about anti horde

[signal turret]

Great for creating space

[stuck bridge]

i take it we didnt get any balance changes

[turbid jacinth]

They are selling this? put more effort to the meshes

[ruby karma]

So, no real changes to Psyker?

[wide quest]

4 is heresy, thank the lord I would have discombobulated if they nerf that penance down to malice.

[signal turret]

Paid cosmetic Psyker items looked terrible

[finite lynx]

Yall find the stupidest things to complain about

[jolly wasp]

Veteran has the key features anged Combat

Headshots

Good vs Elites & Specials

[keen sigil]

why cant he complain about something they ask real money for lol ?

[wide quest]

Lemme see.

[rapid cypress]

Oh jeez ye I got the name wrong. would have cried lol.

[acoustic pine]

@jolly wasp

[dull stratus]

Did any of the other classes get new items or so on?

[pine iris]

they nerfed dodging. I am absolutely fucked

[signal turret]

Featured set helmet looks like a port-a-potty haha

[tropic halo]

WHAT

[finite lynx]

Because irs a tiny bit of clipping. You know which games have clipping? All of them

[restive cave]

"peril management" <- key feature

[signal turret]

wait what?

[tropic halo]

Are you fucking kidding me???

The dodging!?

[finite lynx]

They buffed it, not nerfed it

[wide quest]

Coming in rn, I gotta see this shit for myself.

[burnt python]

use dueling sword

[jolly wasp]

Someone said it says they are good at killing specials and elites, it simply doesn't say that. It doesnt even say KILLING. it just says "Effective Vs Elites".. that can absolutely just mean CCing them.

[restive cave]

Dodging got buffed

[tropic halo]

Oh whew

[restive cave]

As did on-hit stun

[turbid jacinth]

it's the only you can get the rest are hoodies

[restive cave]

The time delay between dodges went from 1s to 0.85s

[teal needle]

Dodging was either nerfed or buffed depending on weapon

[burnt python]

It's identical wording to the vet section you posted lmao

[jovial quail]

Dude Pysker feels different for some reason now, idk what the subtle changes are but things just fking feel different and its freaking me out lol

[pine iris]

We want to allow players to dodge and kite but also be required to pause and reset dodge counts. We feel that chain-dodging as a default solution feels repetitive, and we think getting some attacks, pushes, blocks, creative maneuvering, or abilities into the mix helps create a more engaging combat loop.

[restive cave]

The only dodge that got nerfed was the permanent-dodge-slide-kite of combat knife, which NEEDED to be nerfed

[jolly wasp]

Dude can you even read?

The vet clearly says something different, I will wait for you to read it yourself, since that seems like an actual challenge.

[wide quest]

Dear god the unlock spam

[warm meteor]

oh god

this chat is a more of a fire fight then the actual game

[restive cave]

ah, just another day in psyker chat

[stuck bridge]

yeah to be expected here

[signal turret]

Oh... I already lean more on block shoves than dodging. I think i'll be unaffected. Just tried dodging with my force sword and I can still chain about 4x of them and cover a large distance

[warm meteor]

it wasnt this bad when i went to bed

[eager gorge]

Calm down, ye Witches.

[stuck bridge]

bb stuff bad then?

[restive cave]

Of all the class channels it's literally the most toxic lol

[warm meteor]

BB is bad

[half river]

That's not between dodges, it's how long it takes for the dodge counter to reset

[warm meteor]

oh no

[eager gorge]

Nah, Veteran is pretty bad.

[fathom zealot]

block shove followup is god tier, more people need to do this when surrounded instead of dodge panicking

[restive cave]

Doesn't that affect how long it takes to chain dodges?

[signal turret]

Siblings refuse to accept the gospel of Surge Staff supremacy, but they'll learn.

[jolly wasp]

I'm not surprised, everyone is trying to play Psyker like it's a DPS carry and claiming it's actually good at it while they are the ones being carried.

[silent wave]

well if psyker is supposed to be a support they should add more support options into the skill tree, as of now there's two support options and they compete with eachother

[night marten]

just block people that are toxic, they're not adding to any good class discussion

[fathom zealot]

I still have not gotten a surge staff at lvl 23

[restive cave]

Block shove follow-up only hits one target narrowly in front of you

[fathom zealot]

depends on the weapon

[stuck bridge]

boring staff

[eager gorge]

I wanted the glowing orange Sienna eyes for veteran. sadge.

[restive cave]

oh, for force sword

[keen sigil]

its very good at it when you play on t2 or t3

[jolly wasp]

I agree, Psyker needs work to be considered a good support. There is only 1 build that provides decent overall team support. Soulblaze should be buffed into something that benefits the whole team.

[signal turret]

It is what it is sibling. I enjoy keeping my team safe with CC.

[stuck bridge]

that's a cope though

[silent wave]

there should also be a good dps setup that allows BB to be worth a shit imo

[signal turret]

But im also not against Psyker having an expanded identity. If you want changes keep pushing for them.

[restive cave]

psyker needs rework** FTFY

[fathom zealot]

block shove followup is also better than simply getting hit whenever a dodge wont help you or you need to regen dodge, but some weapons followups are only single target so rip

[signal turret]

Psyker having 1 meta is bad.

[lilac dragon]

Ah crap they reduced the cone on the flame staff :<

[rapid cypress]

Guys I read on reddit that Trauma staff is the best staff, so can you all be quiet already and acknowledge the cold, hard facts ok?

[shadow quail]

Think ima swap to another class tbh

[jolly wasp]

Yeah I don't disagree with you at all, I would love a decent BB DPS build that could compliment having 2 psykers in a group.

[warm meteor]

the ogryn chat is gushing over cosmetics

[silent wave]

every class should be able to spec into anything, especially without limits on classes in a lobby

[restive cave]

accatran lasgun best staff kek

[stuck bridge]

i want to kill with lightning not continously stagger while other people shoot

[warm meteor]

we complained about mesh

[rapid cypress]

hehehe

[warm meteor]

why are we so sinful

[wide quest]

The helmets for psyker seems pretty good though, I think.

[restive cave]

it's amazing, I love ogryn chat

[signal turret]

Those Ogryn paid cosmetics slap

[spice oar]

So no new weapons?

[half river]

No you should still be able to chain dodges the same. You have a dodge counter that depends on what weapon you are holding. Once you use all of your dodge counter then your dodges become ineffective. At any point, not dodging for 0.85 seconds will reset your counter

[teal needle]

It's the connection to the warp

[keen sigil]

cant believe they went overtrash 2 with the shop limited time FOMO type of shop 🤢

[signal turret]

Not that ive seen

[finite lynx]

Meanwhile everyone else besides Ogryns are finding any little thing to moan about.. just enjoy the game

[wide quest]

Bur damn holy shit zealot's outfit looks gah dayum good.

[signal turret]

People can like the game and still have complaints bro lol. Being a yes man accomplishes nothing

[spice oar]

[subtle robin]

we found those things to moan about at start of beta already, don't worry

[keen sigil]

at least they aint asking for 20 bucks for a recolour like in overwatch

[spice oar]

game good anyways eh

[floral stump]

I pressed Space bar at the end of match screen and it crashed me

[jolly wasp]

I think we could be great friends.

[austere wadi]

just dont play pysker for a year, thats how long it will take fatshark to listen to player feedback about the class ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silent wave]

true lmao

[keen sigil]

bro its like 4 years and they still didint rework pyromancer in v2

[rapid cypress]

wait we have no new cosmetics 🤔

[stuck bridge]

by the way, i want to point out to those saying psykers arent explicitly mentioned as elite killers: look at most of our penances

[tulip lark]

^so any new melee weapons for psyker or are we just getting 15 axes

[silent wave]

I just want some nice reworks to BB and warp charges and a couple of changes to the skill tree to make it more variable to different builds

[austere wadi]

we have the beta male bucket helmet

[stuck bridge]

lmfao

[keen sigil]

pskyer is a fantastic elite killer on t2

[toxic temple]

Anyone got a pic of the cosmetics for psyker

[silent wave]

true lol

[stuck bridge]

psykers be on the t2 grind

[subtle robin]

the only relevant difficulty

[austere wadi]

Pysker is well designed. If you play on difficulty 1 and 2.
but 3 and above is heavily falls off.

[mental zinc]

Lmao

[silent wave]

they can be alright at it in 3 too, but thats when psyker starts getting overtaken by vets with a bolter lol

[keen sigil]

cringe bolter vs chad lasgun

[shadow quail]

vet looks at an elite in 2 and it dies

[austere wadi]

wannabe-space marine lookin ass