psyker-class

[obtuse walrus]

Yeah the pox horde runs towards you, Fully Charged Void Staff - cuts through them all like butter

[frigid frigate]

I hate playing Psyker because I try to support my team with the Palpatine staff right and they never protect me or at least enough; like I understand it to an extent y'know but it's like.

[stuck bridge]

buddy WE all are on this copium

[frigid frigate]

Psyker is the copium class

We're all coping.

[elfin vault]

Military Grade Copium

[obtuse walrus]

I don't care how bad people thing Psyker is, I like my space magic

[mild canopy]

[summer sage]

Why replace this push ability to freezing enemies in place with kinetic power?

[frigid frigate]

It's absolutely a dogshit class but I agree.

[elfin vault]

[analog juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/sc2-copium-starcraft-iba-protoss-gif-23384963

[summer sage]

Or create perk that create shockwave from target we just BB?

[mild canopy]

muh space magic

[wheat wren]

This 100% they always leave psyker behind and then get mad when we get ganked instead of helping to keep the mobs off us.

[unborn wedge]

So secondary attack can't do crit?!?

[compact cargo]

Reject psyker, join zealot for better elite clear

[obtuse walrus]

Just deal with the mobs

[frigid frigate]

I'm just trying to use my fucking shock staff to help and boom; jumped and gangbanged by an entire horde cause they all left me alone, I don't want babysitting but damn it I can't horde clear entirely by myself.

[frigid frigate]

The issue is I don't got the flame staff yet

[obtuse walrus]

Flame staff is shit

[frigid frigate]

I personally disagree

I've seen it in action

It's glorious

[summer sage]

This one psyker with lowest stamina in team left behind by team and forced to split because horde/elite just spawned between psyker and his team.

[obtuse walrus]

I've used it in action, it's underwhelming compared to other staves

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/LyiiGZh.jpeg

fucking finally

that took way too long

[hexed wadi]

flame staff can be ok if you only spam right click

[stuck bridge]

for that mission to pop up

[mild canopy]

i still cant get the first hood because FUCKING INVESTIGATION ISNT IN THE GAME

[steady sand]

nice, i also need explosion in elites :S

[hexed wadi]

left click does almost no upfront damage and barely applies soulbaze

[summer sage]

Sounds like what I was doing for last few days

[odd dawn]

It’s probably more worth your time to just get lvl 30 and buy a recolor than bother lol

[mild canopy]

not wrong

[stuck bridge]

its on RIGHT now

investigation

[mild canopy]

HOLD UP

you serious?

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/7L20SGt.jpeg

GO GO GO

[mild canopy]

[stuck bridge]

investigation AND espionage

[bleak tulip]

inb4 at work

[summer sage]

left click actually do bigger initial damage than right click.

[mild canopy]

nah im not at work

thank god

id screech if i got called in today

[bleak tulip]

just say no

if it sucks, hit da bricks

[mild canopy]

doesnt suck

i just like my days off

[obtuse walrus]

I just need to knock 20 blokes off a cliff

to get the hood

[stuck bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/H9QqQKc.png

[obtuse walrus]

don't even want the hood, I want the VR Goggles

[mild canopy]

pretty easy with a strat

[stuck bridge]

fuck im so close to being done

[mild canopy]

how

the hell

do you get out with a bang

i legit cant

either my teammates dont listen or enemies dont die

on just goddamn malice

[stuck bridge]

a very long day of doing that and the push one

[elfin vault]

better hope it doesn't bug out and award the steam achievement and not the penance

[stuck bridge]

i just ran into 3 ragers and exploded

[bleak tulip]

I wish

[stuck bridge]

the better question is, how the fuck do i get Malleus Monstronum

[obtuse walrus]

I'm still in a state of bruh - almost got the Warp Battery penance but then, with 20 seconds left on the clock, no enemies to be found and a level transition (door) to go through

[mild canopy]

by the time i explode one rager is dead

[bleak tulip]

demonhost

[stuck bridge]

i literally was about to get Malleus Monstronum but the fucking zealot ran in and melee'd

TRUE

[acoustic spade]

I will just never get te push one

[bleak tulip]

plague ogryn is okay too but harder to kite

[spiral escarp]

Wait till you realize that the red hood isn’t matching the malleus armor but the grey hood is😂

[stuck bridge]

you guys will get it

[obtuse walrus]

I almost got Malleus Monstronum when all 3 of my allies were dead and I got attacked by a beast of nurgle. But then a mutant came and threw me off the map

[acoustic spade]

whenever I use the ability the enemy is more likely to stumble towards me

[stuck bridge]

no way

https://i.imgur.com/9Kj2MXR.jpeg

i match ok

[bleak tulip]

I'd rather they change it to a mission that doesnt actively require you to do the wrong thing

[stuck bridge]

that's ideal yeah

[acoustic spade]

Forever hoodless

[obtuse walrus]

Yeah the pennances in general, not just the psyker ones, encourage really scummy team play

[stuck bridge]

the ogryn eyeball bonk one is funny though

[bleak tulip]

like, pick and mix is a good example of a flawed but fine mission, at least youre actually doing what youre meant to be doing, not blowing yourself up

[hexed wadi]

my currency surge staff build

[spiral escarp]

It’s not the malleus armor. That one is metal grey/black

[odd dawn]

most aren’t super scummy, just you kinda have to restrain your efficiency trying to do them

[stuck bridge]

oh okay

[odd dawn]

psyker ones are active team sabotage tho

[stuck bridge]

asking people to let me solo a boss is embarrassing and demoralizing

[obtuse walrus]

Most require you just get a group of friends

lmao

[hexed wadi]

John being all like

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-elden-ring-let-me-solo-her-dark-souls-gif-25572756

[stuck bridge]

lmao

fuck that boss i dont want to ever fight her again

[knotty fjord]

anyone up to do the penance of pushing people off the edge

[bleak tulip]

try lfg prob

[stuck bridge]

just as quickly as espionage missions were here, they are gone again

how horrifyingh

1984 the video game??

[wise pecan]

I can’t wait for the game to release with a total psyker overhaul that fixes all my complaints :)

[bleak tulip]

saaaaame

[stuck bridge]

im sure that'll happen, yup

[bleak tulip]

[simple coral]

yeah sure im down

[stuck bridge]

they definitely wont find something to nerf, i promise

🥹

[wise pecan]

I’d say “especially the penances,” but really it’s just everything

[stuck bridge]

u-us psyker mains gonna be eatin good on launch! r-right?

[wise pecan]

Right! Yeah!

:)

[knotty fjord]

You add me Astaphium

[wise pecan]

:) :) :)

Does the emperor still protect if you’re a psyker

Is that how that works

[stuck bridge]

the dreamer psyker seems to imply he loves us all very much

[hexed wadi]

final hit on Heresy of surge staff with 6 stacks..

[stuck bridge]

i would love to find that psykers voice lines

[stuck bridge]

yeah sorry pal, it's not great damage at all

[bleak tulip]

at that point you might as well BB

[acoustic spade]

Ofcourse, the emperor would want to protect his food supply

[bleak tulip]

reapers are never gonna be in surge range anyway

[stuck bridge]

you are going to be surge staffing to open the big boys up for the veterans until psyker gets some tweaks

[hexed wadi]

its 50% of a BB

[stuck bridge]

the ogryns have a new job for us...

[silver dew]

any advice on the cliffhanger penance?

[simple coral]

ogryn

[hexed wadi]

ok..not 50%

[wise pecan]

Is that actually the emperor, though? Like, the psyker definitely thinks it is, and Beloved is genuinely helpful at times, but has it been confirmed?

[bleak tulip]

probably not

[stuck bridge]

get a friend or group willing to help, stand on the bridge on logistratum, then have them shove to group up the horde that spawns there then ya push

[bleak tulip]

its either paranoid delusion or just some daemon

[fading acorn]

still no espionage?

[stuck bridge]

according to some it was confirmed, but could just be delusion

[stuck bridge]

you literally just missed it

[silver dew]

there was just some espionage

[stuck bridge]

^

[wise pecan]

I’m fond of the idea that it’s just a random, unaligned warp entity

[fading acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-kid-vine-table-tantrums-gif-9382123

[stuck bridge]

17 min ago

[hexed wadi]

max i can reduce the cost of BB to 15%

[acoustic spade]

Psykers have to reload with their mouth cause they are busy using both of their hands to use brainbust to keep up the stacks

[stuck bridge]

why not just use the coherency feat to keep stacks maintained silly

then you can use arms to help feed ogryn

[bleak tulip]

or better, both of the auto charges so you never have to BB

or better yet: you realize that your stacks arent worth using BB for so you just dont do it unless you actually have a valid BB target or are literally waiting for your slow ass teammates

ascended psyker evolved past the need to keep stacks up

[static epoch]

does psykinetic aura work on self

[hexed wadi]

yes

[wispy tangle]

all auras affect self

[stuck bridge]

yeah i just staff at this point elites are someone else's problem

[hard breach]

People who don't wait for someone to rejoin in the end: 👎 People who wait for the guy to rejoin:

[tribal granite]

You know what would be cool

if 10% chance to quell 10% peril was "Quell 10% peril each 10th kill you make"

[hexed wadi]

battle meditation actually procking?

I knew it.,

[acoustic spade]

I've seen it proc like once in meatgrinder

[hexed wadi]

Well...to be honest

[tribal granite]

It does when you do some silly horde clearing

with a staff

[hexed wadi]

I play surge staff

i know it kind of does proc

[tribal granite]

I play the giant piercing ball that explodes one

[stuck bridge]

it procs a ton for me

[wispy tangle]

yeah it was confirmed allegedly, plus it's really obvious from some of the voicelines

[tribal granite]

line em up and watch your shot practically quell itself

[acoustic spade]

if I had a more than 300 rating voidstrike staff I would too

[bleak tulip]

how to relegate psyker even more to horde clear when thats decidedly not the main intended role

[hexed wadi]

just i unno it feels weirdly unreliable...and i know it fits Psyker themes

[acoustic spade]

ooh speaking of

The shop finally answered my prayers

[stuck bridge]

when im shooting my balls through hordes itll proc at least once ir twice

[stuck bridge]

epic gz

[bleak tulip]

solid

[acoustic spade]

thats like 40 rating increase on my Voidstrike staff

[hexed wadi]

Like Wrack and Ruin and Kinetic Overload...being weirdly innefective

[acoustic spade]

What are Groaners btw?

[tribal granite]

Man where the hell are all the powerswords in the shop

[hexed wadi]

specially when you are paying attention to it.

[hexed wadi]

psyker doesn't have acess to powerswords

unless you mean forceswords

[tribal granite]

Sorry, meant forceswords

[bleak tulip]

trash mobs

same as poxwalkers

[hexed wadi]

tell me about it, need more sword

[bleak tulip]

which is about the best roll on void because thats a lot of the kill youll be getting

[bleak tulip]

just cutting through hordes

[acoustic spade]

ye ye just wasnt sure what specific enemy type it was

[frigid frigate]

Why do people use the force sword again?

[bleak tulip]

80% against poxwalkers and groaners is functionally a charge speed increase because now you only have to charge like a quarter or so

pretty nice

[frigid frigate]

I mean I understand the reasoning it's basically a chain sword with force abilities but it's like

Single target

[hexed wadi]

special is pretty much a BB that ignores armor

[frigid frigate]

OH

I didn't know it ignored armor

That's actually really good

I just personally prefer things that clear hordes easier

[bleak tulip]

you can interrupt whole groups, the special fucks everything up and it kills flak heads with the third light on basically any difficulty

[frigid frigate]

To save my ass when my team eventually just splits up from me

[acoustic spade]

Oh the green Voidstrike staff even passed my Flamestaff in rating before upgrading it

[hexed wadi]

see

[tribal granite]

when you upgrade stuff, does it also improve the stats on the bars

or just add a passive

[frigid frigate]

What's the point of voidstrike? Is it just a horde clearer?

[bleak tulip]

FS push block and any staff and you are gucci

[acoustic spade]

its the DPS on the lots-of-HP guys

[frigid frigate]

Oh lol.

[bleak tulip]

its mostly horde but also pretty good against melee elites

[frigid frigate]

I personally just like the surge staff

[stuck bridge]

the only solid DPS option you have at difficulty 4+

[frigid frigate]

Heehee Palpatine

i prefer playing Psyker like a support

[stuck bridge]

otherwise it's just CCing with surge staff which is fine

[frigid frigate]

Just stun them ALL

[stuck bridge]

i just want to KILL EVERYONE with LIGHTNING

[bleak tulip]

hey if thats fun to you go nuts

[hexed wadi]

Voidstrike is more long range imo

[frigid frigate]

It's fun unfortunately my team always fucking splits up from me

[bleak tulip]

void is line em up and knock em down

[frigid frigate]

Also what's CCing never heard that term before lol.

[hexed wadi]

I'm trying to find a forcesword with quell on hit/crit

[stuck bridge]

crowd control

basically stunning, keeping dummies locked down

[hexed wadi]

so i can Surge staff and then go into melee

[acoustic spade]

ok, how does Voidstrike determine whether it hits a weakspot or not

possibly asking for a friend

[hexed wadi]

headshot most of the times

[zinc phoenix]

800-1k or slightly more damage against armored targets with the special. It’s pretty hard hitting

[stuck bridge]

voidstrike will stop piercing with it hits armor btw IMPORTANT

otherwise it continues piercing

[acoustic spade]

but which part of the ball has to hit the weakspot

for that perk to work

[bleak tulip]

? the same as anything, if the projectile hits the weak spot

[stuck bridge]

the ball needs to hit the head

it'll know

[bleak tulip]

just aim head level on horde

[zinc phoenix]

It’s pretty easy to headshot with voidstrike tho

[stuck bridge]

i got the 15 headshots in 10 seconds with it

by shooting through 1 horde once

[zinc phoenix]

Same, it’s a head seeking machine

[acoustic spade]

I was more concerned about the fact that it wouldnt work

[hexed wadi]

if your hit marker is yellow you hit the head

[acoustic spade]

but if it does then thats actually ok

[bleak tulip]

transfer peril on ovoid makes it basically peril neutral

[stuck bridge]

oh it works... it works alright

[hexed wadi]

weakpoint*

[stuck bridge]

ok im going to sleep gl psyker gamers

[bleak tulip]

in fact if you kill enough in one blast you literally vent peril with it

[stuck bridge]

dont let those penances ruin ur day

[acoustic spade]

OH so now, if I have Transfer Peril AND the perk that increases my damage per peril %

when does the damage get calculated

when I shoot the ball

[bleak tulip]

likely

but no idea

seems counterproductive

[acoustic spade]

or will it change depending on my peril % as the ball travels

[bleak tulip]

tranfer peril is really good

so you might not get a ton of value out of the second

or you have to make sure you do

[hexed wadi]

i assume damage will be calculated as you shot it

[acoustic spade]

yeah its just that I've used the feat a ton

I cant even remember what the other feats on that line are

[elfin smelt]

19/20 for cliffhanger

pray for my sanity lads

[plush tendon]

Best bet is reduced petrol (read - peril) per warp charge

[hexed wadi]

inner tranquility and Wrack and Ruin

IMO, Inner Tranquility is better

[zinc phoenix]

Such a bizarrely hard feat to get. It’s the only one im missing for the hat 😂

[faint palm]

I've had 300/300 warp battery bugged for weeks. My sanity is gone

[acoustic spade]

not a psyker penance, but same energy

[bleak tulip]

yeah inner tranq is probably better overall

[acoustic spade]

Oh hey

[ornate hamlet]

That penance is not hard (;

[acoustic spade]

about that Horde Clear

[hexed wadi]

24% less peril, 36% if you have the 6 stacks

[bleak tulip]

pog

[acoustic spade]

should I make it orange

[bleak tulip]

now roll for mastercraft and get the trashiest blessing ever and have to wait

there we go lmao

[solid lake]

I really want to like the headpop causes 2 stacks of soublaze to everything around talent on that line, but i swear the more vets in your team the worse it gets

[bleak tulip]

oh well still a great staff

[mild canopy]

somehow failed a malice investigation because why not

[bleak tulip]

also sex number

blessed

[mild canopy]

and now theres no invests

waited 5 mins for a few nodes to change

4 nodes gone

no investigations

[fossil apex]

To be very frank guys, the more I think about the Psyker ability tree, the more I don't know what's the best build for me. I miss the days when I was confident enough and I knew what I was doing lol

[mild canopy]

i really do not like this system

[bleak tulip]

why not, its great so fr

I would do it

[acoustic spade]

Trashiest Blessing? What would constitute the Trashiest Blessing

[bleak tulip]

soulblaze prob

[acoustic spade]

How about

[bleak tulip]

yooo

what the fuck

[hexed wadi]

Yooooo

[bleak tulip]

thats pretty sick

[hexed wadi]

What is that?!

[bleak tulip]

the best two blessings for void

doesnt get much better than those two

the roll on transfer could be betetr and all but hey

cant complain

[hexed wadi]

Which Chaos God did you sold your soul to get that?

[frigid frigate]

Look at this shit build I made lol

[blissful token]

Their Beloved

[frigid frigate]

Hold on

Laggy WIFI

Okay

So here's a shitty build I made

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/5e4ecdc4-0253-45f5-9e09-c8e9e717303c/psyker-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[acoustic spade]

Slaneesh

The quelling speed is insane

wtf

[bleak tulip]

slaughterer on sword is way better

[hexed wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-war-hammer-40k-gif-9829547

[frigid frigate]

Well this is primarily coming from inexperience with the force sword

But it's more just a spitball than anything

[bleak tulip]

3.5 seconds is a lot when using the sword

[cyan echo]

from my experience, if you're in melee you dont want to quell peril on hits because the extra peril keeps your damage up

[solid lake]

I'd say if using a staff, mind in motion is pretty moot - just quell with the staff out

[bleak tulip]

youll be at fuckin +75% damage all the time with slaughterer

[burnt tapir]

It's so weird to me that none of the staffs have any unique perks, while plenty of other weapons do.

[bleak tulip]

its actually stupid good

[primal aurora]

I've missed an opportunity to name my psyker Cultist-Chan

[frigid frigate]

Slaughterer is busted actually just read it

that's fucking absurd

[bleak tulip]

disagree, youll wnt to passive quell as much as possible, more uptime

thats why a lot of psykers run duelling, much better passive quell

[hexed wadi]

Only the special attack of Forcesword gets the bonus from Psykenetic Wrath

[bleak tulip]

sure but I wouldnt even bother with that honestly

[frigid frigate]

Yeah but staff gets the bonus

[bleak tulip]

the difference isnt big enough

[hexed wadi]

normal attacks with forcesword are not considered force attacks

[bleak tulip]

and inner tranq is better for staff uptime too

[frigid frigate]

I know

but you realize I primarily play with my staff out aye

[hexed wadi]

that was for @cyan echo

[frigid frigate]

Ah my bad.

[hexed wadi]

Yeah, you do need a surge staff with crit for that though

[tawny maple]

force sword special is basically an armour/rager deleter. Love it

[bleak tulip]

you'll always want to cast more of staves than have them do 15% more damage

[acoustic spade]

Oh yeah do people know is it intended behaviour that surge staff overloads peril easier than other staffs?

[burnt tapir]

Does the crit bonus on Surge staff increase the crit chance or just the damage?

[bleak tulip]

with surge too, there is always more mobs to stun

[frigid frigate]

I'd rather have the bonus damage because of mind in motion and me gaining toughness on quelling

[hexed wadi]

are you releasing right click after shotting it?

[tawny maple]

Depends. I'd rather get a breakpoint than launch another energy ball

[acoustic spade]

should that matter? cause being at 100% doesnt automatically explode you

[severe helm]

🙏

[bleak tulip]

on staves i run the toughness on kill, but on surge I can see why you might not want to

because you dont really kill as much

[solid lake]

It does with the surge staff, gotta cast it under 80% or so to be safe

[bleak tulip]

its more about the mass of enemies than breakpoints

there is always more shit to shoot at

[acoustic spade]

thats what I am asking

if thats a bug or not cause Warpstrike or trauma staff dont do that

[wispy tangle]

damn warp flurry + terrifying barrage slaps on surge staff depending on what "close range kill" actually means. alternatively rending shockwave replaces terrifying barrage, hopefully "charge time" is a misnomer for "charge percentage"

[burnt tapir]

I've never really noticed terrifying barrage actually doing anything tbh

[hexed wadi]

so there is a strange intereaction of surge staff, if you charge the lightining and shot it, while still holding right button, it will start charging up while the lightining is still being cast

[bleak tulip]

terrifying might be good on surge idk, more cc

[solid lake]

Purgatus does the same but not quite so badly, theres like a fist bump at the end of both that gives a whole lump of warp heat

[bleak tulip]

wouldnt take it on dps staves personally

[hexed wadi]

therefore building peril faster

[kindred sand]

What are the best traits for surge staff?

[wispy tangle]

i would 100% take barrage on flamer staff since it's got a weak CC but strong damage only at close range, so it helps it overcome its inherent weakness

might even say it's unplayable without barrage blessing

[bleak tulip]

you sure thats how it works and its not jsut warp flurry kicking in?

[bleak tulip]

dont use it personally but definitely warp flurry

that one is 100%

more spam more stun more damage

[wispy tangle]

yeah i got flurry on my surge staff and it slaps hard

[bleak tulip]

but flurry is basically god tier on all staves imo because all of them are right click spam

[acoustic spade]

ok so

my staff doesnt need to be charged to one shot the non-infested horde dudes

[bleak tulip]

nice

yeah that staff is gonna be great all the way into damnation

youll just ahve to charge a little more there, if even

[acoustic spade]

5% peril for a horde clear

uhmm

[bleak tulip]

and it vents when you kill enough

[acoustic spade]

I put the Meatgrinder on rank5

[bleak tulip]

very good

how much charge for shooters

theyre flak

[teal mulch]

aight freaks. How do i survive well on malice, yes i really struggle with it

any good weapon combos?

[bleak tulip]

get better items, learn to dodge?

[teal mulch]

already doing that lol but yes skill issue is a big part of it

[burnt tapir]

Dueling sword to create space via dodging

imo

[nimble vector]

dodge/parry . malice isnt even difficult

[wispy tangle]

this is purely a skill issue, not really a gear one

[teal mulch]

it is to me

[wispy tangle]

more related to learning your fundamental game mechanics

[bleak tulip]

depends on what level you are

malice is hard on lv 4

[burnt tapir]

What level are you?

[acoustic spade]

thats a very good question

[hexed wadi]

i would say warp flurry, focussed channeling or rending shockwave

[kindred sand]

What are the best melee? Force sword only?

[nimble vector]

gears help when you do mistakes

[acoustic spade]

I dont think I can provide the answer to it

[burnt tapir]

Dueling Sword mk V all day every day

[teal mulch]

im like 26 lol. It might also be team comp its just we always get FUCKED towards the end or overwhelmed by specials

lol

[analog juniper]

you cant really crutch with gear as Psyker. Maybe with the Surge staff but even then...

[burnt rampart]

Take lightning tbh if you struggle

[burnt tapir]

That's skill issue 🫠

[hexed wadi]

tooo be honest...Forcesword basic moveset kind of...sucks

[bleak tulip]

just dodge backwards, no need for fcus, havent used rending but it doesnt sound super good dps wise, but its surge so the support element is maybe worth

[hexed wadi]

only good cause of the special attack xD

[burnt rampart]

I mean it's all vanguard attacks no?

Has some cleave

[teal mulch]

i know its a skill issue, but i also think random team comp is just so fun. so .god.damn.fun 🙃

[acoustic spade]

Half charge does 1/3rd of their health, 95% charge does like 45% of their health, full charge kills

[burnt rampart]

Like a bigger dagger imo

[acoustic spade]

assuming headshot

[bleak tulip]

on malice youre stil elite killer, so use BB on them

[burnt tapir]

I can't understand why everyone likes surge so much, I've tried it several times on 3/4 and just feel useless compared to just instant killing everything with Void or Purg

[bleak tulip]

thats when psyker still does its intended role

[hexed wadi]

you wish

[burnt rampart]

It's massive cc

[teal mulch]

i try my best but i just get overrun lol but noted

[analog juniper]

it's the only staff that scales at higher levels

[viscid matrix]

only when playing with a bad veteran

[vocal agate]

Force sword with deflect perk and a talent that blocking costs peril. Gives a lot of survivalibility in melee.

[burnt tapir]

Just kill them

[burnt tapir]

Void and purg are chill on Heresy

[burnt rampart]

Not always doable with purge tbh

Void is nice tho

[bleak tulip]

well yeah, but you can at least still kill most of them in one pop unlike heresy

[viscid matrix]

still takes 2 seconds

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[burnt rampart]

But yeah it's more if you need to control half a dozen specials

[woven wigeon]

It is a lil painful, finally had the Heresy Espionage mission pop up for the T3 hood, only for maintenance to immediately start. No strong outrage or anything, just hwah

[hexed wadi]

See all that Psyker needs is a team of Ogryns

[acoustic spade]

wait

[bleak tulip]

yeah but if theyre getting overrun their vet is shit

[woven wigeon]

Could've been the drippiest Psyker in beta

[bleak tulip]

so yeah

lol

[woven wigeon]

Goggles and all

[acoustic spade]

full charge Voidstrike orb doesnt stop on flak armor?

but uncharged does

[woven wigeon]

I mean that's not how the game works

[hexed wadi]

only carrapace

[woven wigeon]

You lose sometimes lol

[burnt rampart]

Sometimes they spawn 5 specialists and pinch you

[bleak tulip]

I mean I havent lost a malice in about 60 hours

so uh

[burnt rampart]

malice

Bruh

[bleak tulip]

yeah were talking malice

[primal aurora]

You think force sword with deflector could be a thing?

[bleak tulip]

scroll up homie

[burnt rampart]

Yeah force sword has deflector

[teal mulch]

yes please

[woven wigeon]

Cool beans, but things can still go wrong! Unless you never got disabled or downed in all that time

[hexed wadi]

i say focussed just cause the amount of times some random enemy walks up behind me

[acoustic spade]

lucky you

[cyan echo]

Looking into the store as the Psyker on an average day

[wispy tangle]

whenever i have a shield ogryn on my team, i just hug his butt all match and surge staff everything in front of him

[burnt rampart]

Can happen on malice still

[analog juniper]

make a habit of looking around or listen for the audio cue

[teal mulch]

like i get the game is hard and waht not

but like the amount of times i have been hit with like 3 trappers, a couple reapoers and just a metric fuck load of others just really turns me away lol

[acoustic spade]

I lost a lvl 1 I went in to do cause it was the only one that had scriptures and I needed to do last week's weeklies

[cyan echo]

Looking into the limited store as a psyker on an average day

[bleak tulip]

yeah thats unfortunately a thing that happens with the director, just gotta constantly check behind you if yore in the back and there is any spawner anywhere there

[woven wigeon]

That's not a Psyker prob only haha. My vet is starved for Bolters, and my Ogryn for grenade launchers

[wispy tangle]

seen a lot of ogryns say psykers surge staffing stuff for them is their favourite thing in the game

[burnt rampart]

Last night I had a flamer, 2 trapper and a mutant charge all at once

Then dogs came

[primal aurora]

No, I meant as a play style. Kinetic shield makes blocking with jedi force sword pretty tanky.

[woven wigeon]

Surge staff is nice! But I just like the voidstrike killing power too much

[acoustic spade]

got exploded off of the map by a barrel

[teal mulch]

I just want to play consistantly on malice for fuck sake lmao

[bleak tulip]

dont use bolter to trash clear as much, there is 3 people in your team that are just as good as the bolter and dont use ammo for it

[woven wigeon]

No I mean

It's not appearing in the shop haha

[bleak tulip]

oh lol

yeah thats a problem

[wispy tangle]

yeah all the staves are good, except -maybe- the detonation one may or may not need a slight buff since a lot of people feel it's basically lacking a role it excels in compared to the rest

[acoustic spade]

uhmm

I tried to exit meatgrinder

[wispy tangle]

pretty much a preference what staff you wanna use

[woven wigeon]

Yup, Darktide 1's done

Gotta wait till the maintenance is over for the sequel

[wispy tangle]

beta just ended and servers went under maintenance

[burnt rampart]

Darktide 2 time

[viscid matrix]

servers down for mainenaince, cya in 48 hours

[wispy tangle]

you can't play until tomorrow at release time

[burnt rampart]

They will remove even more features

[hexed wadi]

my problem with staves..is that they almost have the same basic attack

[burnt tapir]

Void just feels like Trauma+++

[acoustic spade]

beta ended? but its still the 29th :<

[analog juniper]

I said earlier that the Trauma staff should build much less peril OR succ enemies in

[burnt rampart]

Trauma range+++

lol

[tribal granite]

It's 29th but it's 1 pm utc

[wispy tangle]

yeah a lot of people think that. i'm a bit undecided on it, but i agree that trauma staff does feel a bit underwhelming compared to the other 3

[burnt rampart]

Void is probably the one I have least fun with

[bleak tulip]

it should be a break, its meant to end in like 5 hours

[burnt rampart]

Just because of the constant charging

[wispy tangle]

the explosion radius should probably be a little bigger for it to really compete properly

[burnt rampart]

Not many maps where I get to exploit its range

[analog juniper]

just fire at choke points

[bleak tulip]

hm the post reads as though this is the end well rip I guess

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/3485252139473663005

[woven wigeon]

Aside from killing hordes, voidstrike just seems too good on higher difficulties because you can contribute quite well to those firing squad kill rooms by killing and disabling a bunch of them. Also during firefights the hitbox on the ball can headsnipe even when they're hiding behind cover

[burnt rampart]

Yeah but I can take purgatus

[woven wigeon]

It's very cool beans

[burnt rampart]

And have even more cc and damage against hordes

[acoustic spade]

wait, there was a patch like 5 hours ago?

maybe thats the reason

[bleak tulip]

minor stability patch

[analog juniper]

it's better than Purgatus overall

[primal aurora]

Yep. Trauma need a buff. I think in terms of WHAM factor Trauma staff is most impressive. Big chunky explosions (at max charge), at least visually. But when you compare it to other staves it falls short.

[burnt rampart]

Maybe it just doesn't feel as visually appealing

[acoustic spade]

well I never got it

[burnt rampart]

I know the damage it's capable of

[burnt tapir]

I don't play Damnation but they're both totally fine on Heresy

[wispy tangle]

yeah, and when there's a wide spread of enemies, the flamer staff is really good. so the trauma staff feels like it's in a weird place compared to void and purgatus staves

[hexed wadi]

6pm?! damn

[wispy tangle]

long, narrow corridor? void beats it. wide open area? purgatus beats it.

[bleak tulip]

well if you never stop playing I guess

[burnt rampart]

I guess trauma can do emergency close quarter stuns

[wispy tangle]

trauma needs a specialty

[woven wigeon]

Ye Trauma just sorta felt like a less aoe less range voidstrike

[burnt rampart]

Since you can spam the small explosion for little peril cost

[woven wigeon]

Voidstrike even has a more accurate left click lol

[summer sage]

kekw

[burnt rampart]

Is lightning left click actually inaccurate

I've had times where projectile goes sideways

[acoustic spade]

I just run the game until it memory leaks and gives me out-of-memory cause apparently its capped to only using 16GB of RAM

[burnt rampart]

Usually during dodging

[summer sage]

just hit lvl 30 with my Psyker(my main) and servers are down so cant watch cinematic or get achievment 😦

feels bad

[acoustic spade]

normal "closing darktide" behaviour btw

[wispy tangle]

at least you can still catch the cinematic on yt even if it's a way more lame way to see it

[acoustic spade]

8,6GB of RAM in use

[primal aurora]

To be honest staves left click attack doesn't feel good. Very easy to miss. I think most use I got of it with surge staff, to finish survived solo enemies after stunning them.

[wispy tangle]

i wanted to ask this, thanks for reminding. has anyone else noticed the default staff left click (the bolt) has a huge input delay?

[burnt rampart]

I use the purgatus left click a lot more but something about the hitbox just feels shit

It's like a split second cone

[summer sage]

Will I be able to watch it tomorrow ingame?

[burnt rampart]

And not several projectiles spread out

[woven wigeon]

Also the lvl 30 cutscene "reveal" is so silly lmao. Won't spoil but, the game really could've passed on the post-tutorial cutscenes without really losing anything lol

[wispy tangle]

so like what i mean is, when you left click to shoot the bolt, then quickly snap your cursor, the bolt will hit where you snapped instead of where you clicked, so it's got a huge delay between the actual physical input and the game actually "registering" it

[analog juniper]

the projectile speed could use a bit of a buff

[summer sage]

All staves having same left click attack dosent feel good.

[wispy tangle]

it's insanely jarring to me

[wispy tangle]

no idea tbh, i hope you will

[burnt tapir]

Purg left click is great for sprinting, sliding in, firing off some suppression fire to give you time to charge up and torch everything

[woven wigeon]

Yeah it feels odd there's not more diversity in the left clicks, Sienna's always had that

[burnt rampart]

Ah so that's what it is

[summer sage]

Well, its beta and so far plot we know didnt go any further

[primal aurora]

I almost want close range force push on staves instead of this psy-bolt, that can't kill anything reliably unless it headshots (which is hard to pull off).

[summer sage]

we still dont know who was bad guy enemies was rescuing in prologue or what is actually happening on Atoma Prime or who is source of it all.

[burnt rampart]

The "meet each character" cutscene is just goofy tbh

[thorn sphinx]

What about melee weapons? which one do u guys think is the best?

[cyan echo]

its not bad at finishing off basic enemies

[summer sage]

In Vermintide 2 there was actual chapters and chronological missions.

[burnt rampart]

Although Rannick is quite good

[cyan echo]

Force Sword by far

[burnt tapir]

Dueling Sword Mk V

[burnt rampart]

Catachan mk i

If you want cleave

[summer sage]

Force Sword is like biggest possible damage in one attack.

[thorn sphinx]

yea force sword alt fire is really strong against big enemies

is chainsword the same? haven't tried it

[woven wigeon]

I prefer the Catachan knife ye. The mobility has been just too handy, and the damage is good enough on Heresy for when I need it

[cyan echo]

Chainsword is also good but not AS good since it doesnt benefit from the bonus to Force weapons feat

[summer sage]

Once on lvl 3 difficulty I took half of objective Boss hp bar with full warp stacks and weapon perk stacks. With one attack

[woven wigeon]

The Force Sword will let you help with high dps moments though

So there's reasons for either

[cyan echo]

also the chainsword Alt takes longer to complete

[bleak tulip]

ive seen chainsword alt fire fuck shit up too but I dont like it, basic attack feels like hitting people with a noodle

[primal aurora]

Force sword due to uniqueness and different options. I also ran with chain sword for a bit, which while weaker still has fancy 'kill specials' option and wider swings.

[cyan echo]

not to mention = blocking any attack with the force sword

[burnt tapir]

Knife is fine but Mk V Duel feels better to me

[burnt rampart]

Force and chain both good for boss dps

[summer sage]

Chaingsword is much less damage, you can test it in psalterium

[bleak tulip]

blocking

[burnt rampart]

Movesets not too different either

[woven wigeon]

The dueling sword has this issue atm where you cant swap weapon while in recovery animation after swinging

[bleak tulip]

never block

[woven wigeon]

If it wasnt for that I'd at least try it but

That feels so bad on psyker

[burnt tapir]

A good chainsword can hit for 1200+ on the ogryn enemies

[woven wigeon]

Or prob any class

[burnt tapir]

Is it only the dueling sword? It feels horrendous when that happens

[primal aurora]

Force sword feels a bit weird due to push instead of attack on blocking.

[bleak tulip]

FS too I think

[summer sage]

Only?

[woven wigeon]

I haven't had that issue with other weapons, but ye I haven't spent too much time outside of the knife and the early weapons for other classes

[cyan echo]

One thing I noticed is that you cant switch to BB while a staff is in the middle of attack or right after attack, but if you do a Q to switch to melee, and then immediately G to switch to BB, it works

[night mortar]

I use dagger, movement is just way too good

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433236097317732352/1046918503346753609/image.png

[pine hearth]

force sword should give a warp charge on special attack kill

since its a mini BB

[summer sage]

Force Sword can go much beyond that

[burnt tapir]

MacroBB

Haven't used one since super low level, I wouldn't know

[primal aurora]

Yes, that is extremely annoying. I hope there could be done something about it.

[woven wigeon]

Blocking with the knife and benefitting from the feat where you can use peril to block instead of stamina is a great combo, also

Gets around the stamina downside

[cyan echo]

i do the Q-G by reflex now anyway XD

[woven wigeon]

Can hold off ragers and daemonhosts

[burnt rampart]

Force sword with the peril damage perk can probably hit pretty fat damage

[analog juniper]

it used to do that in the first beta, but for some reason devs decided to nerf every aspect of the Psyker

[burnt tapir]

I went Force sword, hated it, went knife, gradually tested all the dueling swords and stuck with the +Defenses model.

[burnt rampart]

Assuming no additional setup here like warp charges

[summer sage]

What? Really?

[analog juniper]

yes

[summer sage]

Why they remove this

[analog juniper]

idk

[pine hearth]

maybe saving it for a subclass?

like a melee psyker

[burnt tapir]

The Mk V sword with high defense stat seems to have no stamina cost on some blocks, without even running that one feat

[signal turret]

Im hoping the Force Greatsword works like the Vet Power Sword. I can make the Force Sword work but I only use it during hordes and its horde clearing potential is mid af.

[summer sage]

Now almost no psyker cares about maintaining those stacks

[primal aurora]

it's not like Force charges change THAT much.

[acoustic spade]

You know what they could fix? Always having your staff out if you are downed and are helped up

[summer sage]

3% more damage per stack

[acoustic spade]

having your melee out, getting helped back up in the middle of a horde and then not being able to block sucks

[summer sage]

Whole 12% at 4 stacks! 😄

[true fjord]

and you can have 6

[summer sage]

with perk

[pine hearth]

who dosent run the 6 stacks feat?

[true fjord]

but there are better perks on that lvl tho

[signal turret]

Trying to swap to staff for a quick alt-fire blast just for your sword to get stuck in your hand sucks more lol

happens to me way too often

[acoustic spade]

I probably dont

[bleak tulip]

you mean there only is one perk on that level

[primal aurora]

Personally I prefer free BB every 15 sec.

[burnt tapir]

With Mk V you can literally push and side dodge all the way through a horde and out the other side

[true fjord]

ig

[summer sage]

ButFree BB every 15 second

[pine hearth]

in damnation you can 2 shot crushers etc with 6 stacks

and bb

[signal turret]

Anyone doing 4-5s

[burnt tapir]

Congrats, you BBd a poxwalker.

[true fjord]

but i love build for 100% chance to brainburs on any damage, and just instead of staff i sue freaking machine lasgun

[crisp skiff]

the problem I have with the force sword is that its animation locks you in, whilst the power sword doesnt

[acoustic spade]

iirc I run the middle one

[true fjord]

its op

ngl

[summer sage]

Force Sword special attack can proc free BB almost every time when it is up

[acoustic spade]

not the 6stack or the BB one

[cyan echo]

ill take any warpcharges i get

[burnt tapir]

Then go fire build for unlimited charges

[pine hearth]

I just run around BB ing everything I can

[summer sage]

Psyker can use power sword?

[signal turret]

Please no

[pine hearth]

until my staff is needed for a horde or w/e

[crisp skiff]

well no, but

[burnt tapir]

Or go the increased speed feat at 30 to just top off every 20 seconds

[woven wigeon]

Ooooo, that damage spike sounds satisfying, might have to try that. Especially since the talents on the row competing with that aren't great anywho

[pine hearth]

if you charge a BB to 50% and an ally kills the target you still get a warp

[burnt rampart]

I spec into it with purge

Because I have a pretty easy time gaining them passively

[burnt tapir]

purge + stacks is juicy

[summer sage]

Who using BB 4-5s?

[burnt rampart]

But yeah no brainburst

[pine hearth]

idk I have 6 charges up almost a whole match

[woven wigeon]

The charges are nice! I use the talent that gives charges on kill. On Heresy I'll often get all 6 just from playing during a horde ambush

[pine hearth]

max damage

[signal turret]

Im saying, 6 stack feat is bad because youre never going to be at 6 stacks in 4-5s, if youre using brain burst that much you might as well let a bot take your spot lol

[woven wigeon]

Using a mix of staff and bb

Nono, not just from brain burst

[burnt tapir]

It's so easy to hit 6 stacks with almost never even using BB though.

[bleak tulip]

I'd rather have a free BB and charge every 15 seconds so I dont have to waste time using that shit

[woven wigeon]

The talent for charges on kill ensures you can maintain quite well in high density

[burnt rampart]

Problem with 6 warp is that the alternative is kinetic flayer

Which makes purge upkeep even smoother

And you can just take psykinetic wrath

[summer sage]

You cant even kill dog with one BB. BB is just weak af at higher difficulty

[woven wigeon]

I think the dog thing is fine haha

It's a tough special if you're not meleeing it

Can take multiple bolter shots

[signal turret]

I near exclusively run heresy, with the obv endless horde bug. It might be a surge staff thing but the 10% free bb chance every 15s doesnt get me close to 4 stacking even with non-stop combat from start to finish

[burnt rampart]

Burn the dog good

And force sword it

[cyan echo]

There's the benefit of causing +15% damage boost from others if you BB a boss for example

[hexed wadi]

I mean don't get me wrong, kinetic flayer is good, I just don't like the rng on it.

[bleak tulip]

there is no rng, you kill so much shit in this game it might as well be 100%

[signal turret]

It's still the best feat in that column by far tho

[hexed wadi]

Most of the time it ends up proccing on a grunt that is already low hp

[burnt rampart]

Yeah it's very purge dependant

[woven wigeon]

I more wish you could brain burst pox bursters in one go, although you can do that on Heresy with enough stacks at least

[pine hearth]

im 2 shotting everything in damnation with 6 stacks

[summer sage]

Only reason to use BB at higher difficulty

[pine hearth]

and use a fire staff if we get swamped

[cyan echo]

and to stun Bulwarks!

[burnt rampart]

But you really don't get to use bb often unless you take a lasgun

[pine hearth]

force sword is 2 shot aswel

[burnt tapir]

It's the staff lol. 4% on kill + the increased BB speed on F is near infinite stacks with seconds of downtime for Void.
With Purg staff you're at like 14% kills = stacks

[pine hearth]

on the big boyus

2 shot special that is

[bleak tulip]

you literally just have to hit 10 things when its up and youre likely to get a free charge

which is checks notes all the time

[summer sage]

BB suppose to be elite killer, at higher level even bad Vetern player can outperfom your BB with just full auto bolt gun into crusher

[woven wigeon]

BB on Heresy can be nice when you're dug in against multiple gunners for whatever reason. Or for Bulwarks or isolated crushers

[burnt rampart]

Ascendant blaze too

I guess I'll try ascendant blaze and warp battery

See if my upkeep is just as strong

[pine hearth]

atm I do 1400 damage with force sword special

and 6 stacks

[woven wigeon]

I disagree since it has other uses but, it could prob be better

[signal turret]

I don't see a reason to use either of those staffs in 4-5s. The utility Surge brings in higher diffs it might as well be a healing staff. Fuck charges lol. I have a very high quell stat on my Surge so dumping below 82% takes about 1.5s

[acoustic spade]

how do you people remember the feat names

[woven wigeon]

Voidstrike gives a lot of killing power

[bleak tulip]

look em up enough

[woven wigeon]

And stunning isn't too bad, not as good as the surge but it can help

[burnt tapir]

I don't run 5s but I grind 4s all day. They do just fine on 4.

[bleak tulip]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes/psyker-psykinetic also

:p

[summer sage]

It proc always with special Force Sword attack, probably because it is chain attack that in theory hit enemy multiple times.

[burnt rampart]

I pull up the steam guide

[warped linden]

surge staff anf purge staff both hit multiple times on enemies and ever damage tick counts for the proc

[round swan]

i feel like at 4-5 you need the feat that will give you stacks for being around teammates killing elites. it's def a good talent to have if you pair the 2

[acoustic spade]

I remember the feats by the position

[analog juniper]

gaming for a long time gives most people good memory

[acoustic spade]

and what they do

[burnt rampart]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2890127609

[hexed wadi]

I run warp battery and Quicken.

[acoustic spade]

yeah, I mean my memory is ok except when it comes to names

[summer sage]

Buy better sword

[pine hearth]

the only feat level that I feel needs a reword is the 25 one iirc

[signal turret]

That's what I run personally. I've given up on caring about Warp Charges. If I have them from the lvl 25 feat to work with Quicken, great. If not, great.

[pine hearth]

the one that gives you max runspeed while queling

[acoustic spade]

I remember concepts and positions on a grid better than names

[pine hearth]

I dont see a reason to take the others

[bleak tulip]

just side dash

just as fast

you get another perk

[analog juniper]

Deflection perk can be good

[round swan]

definitely. brain burst is a neat idea but it just doesn't work when you need to kill things immediately (like vet sniping things from across the map). it just takes too long, even with the 30 feat

[acoustic spade]

I run the uh

"Kinetic Deflection"

[woven wigeon]

Ye the runspeed isnt as good if you use a staff

[burnt rampart]

Does weapon power level scale with current weapon or level?

Or both

[acoustic spade]

peril block thingy

[woven wigeon]

Since you already move pretty fast quelling with staff

[burnt rampart]

If you want to maximize it

[woven wigeon]

And ye you can dodge

[signal turret]

Deflection + that feat makes you damn near an Ogryn when you rez if you hold block before picking someone up.

[bleak tulip]

you also spend next to no time quelling with a decent staff

[woven wigeon]

I've heard conflicting reports on if force sword can block while reviving with that trait against gunfire

But if that does work

[primal aurora]

First perk (blocking with peril) has some potential with Force sword that blocks bullets. Not sure how to properly use it though.

[woven wigeon]

That sounds dope for clutches

[analog juniper]

tbh this perk should not even exist

[signal turret]

Can confirm at least on my end

[analog juniper]

it should be unlocked by default

[signal turret]

Absolutely... Should just be baked into the class imo

[burnt tapir]

That's how I feel about Flayer. just buff the 4% perk

[woven wigeon]

Will have to give force sword more of a go then, the high dps sounds attractive. Feel like a bit of a lemon during boss fights

Just spamming BB

[warped linden]

it used to be 10%

[summer sage]

Psykinetic =

[bleak tulip]

so should flayer at that point, its the only viable option

[woven wigeon]

Fatshark's good at making traits that should be ingrained into the class optional. Poor pyromancer Sienna. Performs best at high overcharge, but needs a talent to not have slowdown at high overcharge

Designers whyyyy

[pine hearth]

btw the bosses in assassination missions count as montrosities

[viscid matrix]

i want all of these skills

[signal turret]

The non-peril push is very good, Deflector trait on it is obv 1 of the best u can get. I've had plenty of clutch moments being the last man standing during a horde weaving a push inbetween 2 light attacks

[summer sage]

Give us 'Gate of Infinity' ability and now we will be never left behind by our teams.

[summer sage]

me too

[signal turret]

The cleave is dog tho. Replacing Force Sword with the Greatsword the first chance I get lol

[summer sage]

Instead we got flame powers in our perks and some lightings

[acoustic spade]

whats flayer?

what level is it

[toxic temple]

Anyone got a good recommendation for a new Psyker player I just made it after I got 30 on vet

[signal turret]

25

[pine hearth]

soul flame would be better if it dident only prock on elites

[acoustic spade]

oh

[pine hearth]

should be any BB kill

[woven wigeon]

Am interested to see the twohander! But mobility is very nice on Psyker so, I feel like I'll likely stick to hte one-hander and use an aoe staff

[primal aurora]

sadly our psyker is a criminal scumm canon fodder you usually kill in stacks in usual RPGs

[warped linden]

play zealot until they fix psyker

[acoustic spade]

I have that webpage open, I just couldnt find it

I run the middle one

[hexed wadi]

what?

[bleak tulip]

why in the world

[toxic temple]

What wrong with psyker

[burnt rampart]

Kinetic flayer happens with gun damage as well btw

Pretty funny

[bleak tulip]

all damage

[solid lake]

The soul flame ones good if you go full soul blaze build. For some reason the stacks scale exponentially damage wise instead of linear

[crisp skiff]

Yes you can play the pysker and yes he can do okay at higher difficulty but he is not fun to play, and he isn't on par with the other classes

[woven wigeon]

Yeah I just started reading my first 40k book. Protagonist is like, a psyker on the side, not great at it. But he can still do all this cool stuff with forcing people to do his will and stuff like that

[pine hearth]

just play vet they are litterly the best of both worlds

[hexed wadi]

almost the same problems with zealot really

[woven wigeon]

Compared to my Darktide psyker

I feel like my char wasnt trained lol

[pine hearth]

power sword in melee bolter in ranged

[tidal pewter]

So do we know what the pre order beta cosmetic will look like?

[summer sage]

first they need to fix the game XD

[woven wigeon]

Just head smush, thats my only trick

[bleak tulip]

kinetic flayer always procs on cd because of the amount of shit you hit at any time, I wouldnt be surprised of the chance gets nerfed its such a no brainer

[warped linden]

leveling until 15ish with psyker is a slog for one

[primal aurora]

hideously ugly

[ornate hamlet]

yeah, it would be nice to have this one by default.

[burnt rampart]

Pics

[tidal pewter]

god i hope not

[burnt rampart]

Also yeah psyker only has 2 passive

Please give us a third

[acoustic spade]

cause I run the Ascending Blaze

[summer sage]

and one need a rework

[signal turret]

This is the unfortunate truth. I still plan to stick with just my Psyker but unless you enjoy being a CC spammer building any other way feels redundant. You can bring a Purgatus/Void and build for horde clear but your horde clear potential is still drastically weaker than the other classes which for me makes building your Psyker that way pointless

[bleak tulip]

but even then its bad tho

[summer sage]

Forcing us to kill stuff with BB is bad design

[primal aurora]

Btw, I wanted to ask. Am I the only one annoyed that I need to switch from BB/Force sword to a staff to quell peril and move faster (without perk)?

[acoustic spade]

And I run Essence Harvest

[burnt rampart]

What is the other one again

[acoustic spade]

so I want to be gaining more Warp Charges

[burnt rampart]

I only remember 10% quell

[bleak tulip]

you need like 12 stacks before soulblaze does any respectable damage and even then youre still faster just hitting them with a stick

[signal turret]

With Surge Psyker has unparalleled CC. Feels like we're kind of shoehorned into that.

[warped linden]

If you don't have any patience for really clunky gameplay psyker feels aweful until 15. And it was nerfed in to the ground so it doesn't even really feel good at higher levels atm. Once you get the lightening staff or flame staff it's alright though.

[burnt rampart]

Oh it's just warp charge

Lmao

[round swan]

wait you move faster when quelling with a staff?

[pine hearth]

30% on warp charge gain

[summer sage]

cuz we cant kill stuff with it on higher difficulties and on lower difficulties players have tendency to focus enemies with glowing heads.

[ornate hamlet]

are you implying that you don't get slowed down by quelling with a staff or sword?

[pine hearth]

BB charged to 50% still gives a charge

if it dies

[signal turret]

Yes

Not quite normal run speed, but fast enough

[analog juniper]

are you sure about this?

[summer sage]

Warp stack mechanics and gaining them from killing enemies with BB

[ornate hamlet]

sweet emperor

[pine hearth]

yes

[bleak tulip]

and you wasted time for a puny 3% damage bonus, if even that

[hexed wadi]

force sword and staff have Quelling speed as a stat, so they quell faster than BB Quell

[woven wigeon]

Mentioned before that, I find myself preferring Voidstrike on high diff over Surge

[solid lake]

If you charge enough to do the hand slap, you get a charge sometimes

[woven wigeon]

Helps with gunners a lot

ALso obvs horde killing

[summer sage]

10% quell is good but too random

[woven wigeon]

Easier to justify lack of cleave on melee

[burnt rampart]

Ye

[summer sage]

• dont work with soul burn

[primal aurora]

Force sword has? please pics

[woven wigeon]

10% quell is quite nice with voidstrike since it'll proc so often

[bleak tulip]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/sword-force (lol nvm I misread)

[woven wigeon]

Combined with quell on weak spot hit

[signal turret]

I prefer to bring CC. Vets are infinitely better elite killers, id rather leave that duty to them

[burnt rampart]

I hope they give us the warp charge peril resist as a bonus trait

[woven wigeon]

I'm always able to maintain low peril

[woven wigeon]

I play with randoms, so I try and stay as generalist as I can haha

[burnt rampart]

That or move speed

[woven wigeon]

Never know when you'll get the triple ogryn pack

[summer sage]

And please make quell speed from staffs works even when weapon is hidded. There is no point in quelling when using BB.

[signal turret]

I think I could count on my 2 hands the number of Ogryn i've seen in heresy lol

[warped linden]

i kind of hate ogryn

[solid lake]

Its easy to stay low peril with randoms, because they always run off to leave you by yourself. Cant gain peril if you cant put away your melee weapon 😛

[woven wigeon]

Yeaahhhh, they seem to get filtered out

[signal turret]

Its usually me as psyk, 1 zealot maybe, and 2 vets almost every time

[woven wigeon]

Pretty sad

[summer sage]

but you cant proc it with flame staff dot damage.

[signal turret]

or me and 3 vets

[woven wigeon]

Haven't used flame staff, but oof!

That sucks

[pine hearth]

well I mean ogryn is the most boring class tbh

was my first class to 30

havent played it since

[acoustic spade]

Yes you can

[signal turret]

I've seen Ogryn pull some incredibly clutch shit

[warped linden]

Not for that. just their big fat ass is always in my way

[woven wigeon]

Reminds me of sienna's flail explosion not counting as you staggering everything even though it knocks down a small horde each time so you generated like no temp hp

[analog juniper]

unga bunga class that is in the way of someone else 99.999% of the time

[bleak tulip]

you cant even FF them as psyker tho

well I geuss if youre using a gun like a weirdo

[woven wigeon]

I'm hoping Ogryn's are helped by the extra weapons on full release but

They still feel fundamentally oof, yeah

[hexed wadi]

Hey, sometimes i like grabbing my lasgun, ok!

[pine hearth]

If they get a bullgryn shield/grenade combo ill play it again

[warped linden]

having your vison blocked means you can't BB the sniper on the other side of the map, or even tell if your void ball is actually going to hit anything

[analog juniper]

when I got the shield and you couldnt do this I was so disappointed

[hexed wadi]

....

[bleak tulip]

mash middle mouse, should be doing this anyway, also hitmarkers

[hexed wadi]

Ogryns don't block BB though

[burnt rampart]

Yeah but you can't target

[acoustic spade]

I've been meaning to rebind middle mouse to something else for the longest time

[signal turret]

[burnt rampart]

Who knows if you're snapping a dreg

[bleak tulip]

I have MM on a thumb button

[acoustic spade]

my mouse's wheel is so sensitive

[pine hearth]

been thinking of setting up a macro to just hit middle mosue on repeat

[acoustic spade]

I accidentally switch weapons when I try

[pine hearth]

mouse*

[hexed wadi]

I have Mark target on F

[burnt rampart]

Even if they're pinged you cannot be sure you got the right guy since you cannot visually confirm the aura around their head

[hexed wadi]

and just spam that

[deft tusk]

I heard from the internets that you can just bind the mm to mouse 1, just set the wheel timer to max so it doesn't come up

[bleak tulip]

to be fair at this point I just voidstaff snipers because its faster

BB is garbo

most of the time vet gets em anyway

[acoustic spade]

BB is safer if you can grab them

[signal turret]

Snipers and elites 15 football fields away are the only time my BB comes out

[summer sage]

Just give as fricking grenade

[acoustic spade]

i've seen vets get blown up

[burnt rampart]

I just do some other stuff in the mean time tbh

Clear horde and so on

[acoustic spade]

by the sniper when they try to hit them

[hexed wadi]

Xan is just like, BlindFire Voidstaff
Xan has killed Dreg Sniper
Xan has killed Reaper
Xan has killed everything

[bleak tulip]

not if the ogryn is in your way getting hit

[bleak tulip]

no more like "killed 50 trash mobs" "vet killed all specials"

and thats my problem

:c

[burnt rampart]

What's a safe cap for lightning staff btw

80%?

[signal turret]

Thats why im the Surge Staff God

82% for Surge

[summer sage]

Safe caps are strange af

[primal aurora]

eh, you all are wrong, proper psyker play is to mindcontrol your teammates to kill all enemies for you

[hexed wadi]

Inner Tranquaility or nah?

[bleak tulip]

I run it

[burnt rampart]

Nope

[acoustic spade]

speaking of snipers, I had a fun run as zealot today, made me sort of want to use the Revolver on psyker as well

[burnt rampart]

Surge lol

You won't have good upkeep of warp charge with those

[hexed wadi]

that is your problem then

[analog juniper]

always

[acoustic spade]

I ran into a room and the room had 3 snipers in it

[summer sage]

Why I can star casting at 98peril and pop someone head with BB without exploding
But casting lighting at 90% make me insta explode.

[signal turret]

Who cares about Warp Charges

[acoustic spade]

and I headpopped them one after the other

with the revolver

[bleak tulip]

15% damage from wrath isnt worth the difference in uptime imo, so inner tranq every day

[woven wigeon]

Warp charges are nice

[primal aurora]

Palpatine syndrome

[woven wigeon]

Tend to build them up naturally during a horde ambush

Thanks to warp charge gain on kill

[burnt rampart]

I noticed that I maintain 1-2 charge at most with surge

[woven wigeon]

Almost 20% damage boost isnt too shabby

[burnt rampart]

So I don't really spec into it

[analog juniper]

Number one headband owners do

[bleak tulip]

then youre not running flayer

[burnt rampart]

I am running flayer

[bleak tulip]

you should be fully stacked al lthe time on surge

[burnt rampart]

Even then

[signal turret]

Zealots have significantly better horde clear, Veterans are significantly better elite killers, what are warp charges doing for me in 4-5

hence, Surge Staff.

[burnt rampart]

I get full stack constantly with purge

[acoustic spade]

the killfeed had three "killed sniper" lines and the other players just reacted in the textchat "Hey, that was cool"

[pine hearth]

fire staff is amazing horse clear

[bleak tulip]

do you just stop to quell every 4 seconds or something?

[woven wigeon]

I wouldn't say zealots are significantly better horde clear haha

[pine hearth]

horde*

[hexed wadi]

Quicken is your friend

[burnt rampart]

Yeah

[acoustic spade]

one of the reasons I think I should also level up veteran

[woven wigeon]

Voidstrike will tear a hole through the horde when fully charged

[primal aurora]

I did care about Warp charges exactly for one Heresy mission. Got my shiny pants, now I don't care.

[earnest elbow]

I like the electric ball one personally, really good for hordes

[pine hearth]

and you can spam it far longer then a zealot with flamer

[analog juniper]

gives you the ability to spam Surge more

[burnt rampart]

Or if horde isn't completely dead by the point I get my sword out

[bleak tulip]

charges last 25 seconds, flayer is 15 secondcd, you have 10 seconds to get like ~10 hits on anything, how do you run out of charges

[signal turret]

Flamer absolutely obliterates even a god rolled Purgatus

[woven wigeon]

To my mind it's up there with power sword

[burnt rampart]

Usually the team clears them before that

But it happens

[woven wigeon]

Ye I mean voidstrike, not purgatus

[gilded lion]

Y’all sleeping on the trauma ground pound staff. Staggers everything with monster damage.

[summer sage]

Who even cares about those stacks, our 12-18% bonus damage vs other classes passives

[signal turret]

I mean obv lol, I was speaking on focusing maintaining your warp charges in 4-5. If you have some from Kinetic Flayer to work with Quicken, great but it's not that big of a deal.

[tidal pewter]

this is correct, once you get your warp charges you become a spell slinging machine. i counted once and got off something like 30 voidstrike right-click a during a horde because I had max charges, and gonked so many people at once the passive "quell 10 peril on kill" kept proccing

[bleak tulip]

I mean I havent used it in ages but thats a controversial take

[dim pier]

20*, someone tested in the psykanium. It averaged out to 1 in 20 out of 1000 hits

[earnest elbow]

Not enough range, I’ve found it difficult to target anything that isn’t in midrange