psyker-class

[shell sigil]

All things Psyker Psykinetic! Have fun!

[dawn elbow]

Very exciting

[full barn]

Head go boom

that is all

[night fox]

psyker needs buff and rework

[patent ledge]

Hello fellow masochists!

[distant pelican]

Witness your DOOM!

[placid monolith]

Psykers just wanna have fun

[proud sierra]

Psyker needs a scale for 4+ difficutlies lol

[vagrant cedar]

first

[proud sierra]

Pleaseee.Pleasee. (intense moaning psyker) after quelling peril lol

[full barn]

skill issue (jk ofc)

[wheat wren]

Twost

[knotty sage]

Is there a list where I can see which staff can have which blessings?

[devout nexus]

When you play psyker and you realize that your 3 second charge snipe ability doesn't one shot anything

[solar remnant]

Am I just bad or is the suicide penance impossible

[devout nexus]

It's possible, just not with randoms

[digital ginkgo]

Coordination is required for it sadly

[solar remnant]

Ya I've only tried it with randoms

[wet finch]

Psyker can absolutely hypercarry any difficulty, skill issue. Brainburst buff is debatable but psyker in general is stronk

[bold maple]

the fact that psyker cant do this is criminal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A&t=240s&ab_channel=TheChach

[devout nexus]

Oh yeah, most definitely, I just find it kinda weird that the one ability the game wants you to use to snipe high priority target just doesn't kill them is all

[plucky breach]

Most penances are impossible solo [even with randoms] or to get through normal progression, there has not been any response to player feedback on forum and reddit

[proud sierra]

i do love me the void staff not so much the trauma

[wet finch]

I understand what u mean. I find the 30 lvl feat that speeds up BB to be essential if u want to use BB difficulty 4+

[ocean tusk]

Well this is a new channel. A channel for psyker mains or just general psyker discussion? Either way, nice

[latent ginkgo]

Maybe they could add traits to curios to enhance brain burst damage?

[devout halo]

trauma is bis

[digital ginkgo]

It's just a discussion channel about the class itself

easier to keep track of stuff

[stone sage]

Low Level Psyker tip the Force Sword is a noob trap, 😭
Your way better of taking a normal weapon and a normal gun until you get a great staff

[humble bolt]

Psycho sux

[ocean tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-peralta-99-adam-gif-22554920

[digital ginkgo]

I prefere the axe over the sword anyway

[ornate hamlet]

Bosses I just spam force sword charges and rekt shit, BB is just a meme tbh.
Mostly using surge staff on 4 and 5 diff.
Also haven't seen a staff or force sword at the trader for 5 days lmao

[bitter orbit]

There should be class specific curios, or something else. Which specifically buffs abilities from each class

[stone sage]

thats the game protecting you from that trash default left click

[craggy egret]

are we allowed to post build links here with the build website?

[bleak tulip]

bad take, force sword moveset is fantastic

just click on heads

[devout kelp]

Am I the only one that thinks Psyker penances got the mouthful of dirt in difficulty compared to other classes?

They're definitely doable. Well, most of them definitely seem doable. But only with great coordination, setup, and herding.

[stone sage]

im not saying the moveset is bad im saying the weapon will get new players killed

[bitter orbit]

Man everything psyker is just harder

[devout kelp]

Most other classes seem to lean more into "get lucky while playing" or "a bit of skill".

[digital ginkgo]

My one main gripe about the penances is the one where you need to solo kill the Ogryn or Beast solo with BB only

[drifting mauve]

I think the Vet has the hardest penances without cheating for sure, but I hate how the Psyker's penances all basically require you to grief your team lmao

[ornate hamlet]

Agree, most of our penances promote griefing and outta the way setup with ppl, unless we get a solo no bot lobby

[blazing shale]

The only one I'm not a fan of is the "Blow yourself up lol" penance, the others are fine, if hard. Team coordination is 100% required.

[proud sierra]

Only penance i need for the kinetic killer part 2 is the da;mn kamikaze one

[thick thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-sad-tobias-gif-21194145

(in agreement)

[faint sigil]

What blessings exist for staves that are good? My shop only gives me a staff once a week and it's a white trauma staff. My only upgraded shock staff lets me left click while sprinting.

[shadow dust]

zap goes brrrr

[devout kelp]

Oh yeah, penances promoting bad behaviour (like blowing yourself up or rushing dogs) should be no go.

[ornate hamlet]

I mean rushing dogs just gets done while playing at low lvls

[stone sage]

Team stop killing i need to push 20 enemys in 2 seconds right now - dies... Team rez me

[ornate hamlet]

Since BB is your goto cannon

[magic slate]

Will get newbies killed but still a great weapon, especially when you get deflect and put on kinetic deflector.
Just chunks assination bossess with special heavy attacks

[drifting mauve]

I wish the cliffhanger penance didn't tell me what my highest attempt was, it says I have 19/20

[blazing shale]

The dog one doesn't promote bad behaviour, if anything it teaches you to prepare a BB for a dog, since it has to be jumping already so you need to be prepped.

[devout kelp]

The dog one isn't that hard, it's just that I've seen people abandoning everything to go burst a dog.

[digital ginkgo]

It can be jumping at allies aswell not just yourself

[craggy egret]

me too D:

[drifting mauve]

Dog one I got without even knowing it was a thing, I think it's fine tbh

[digital ginkgo]

I got it for assisting team members

[blazing shale]

^

[stone sage]

sir you dont get those stats at low levels

[bitter orbit]

Same 😦

[ruby spire]

I'm still stuck on the cliffhanger one and am not a huge fan of it, let alone the kamikaze one on malice (or was it heresy) and above

[devout kelp]

But yeah I mean, it was just an example. Sure the dog isn't the worst by any stretch of the imagination. But stuff like blowing yourself up is uhhhh... Why

[spice oar]

Hello siblings

[modest trail]

I like achivements in games which you earn whilst playing.
Rather than "essentially grief your team,or change your entire playstyle to get these" kinda things, which they currently feel like.
So far struggling to NOT kill 3 elites, then die trying.
Having to ask your team to stop playing normally, just so you can throw yourself under the bus yourself feels bad 😦

[ornate hamlet]

Defo, I just can't get the penance. I boot up Chasm Logistratum with endless horde, rush to the bridge, someone spawns in, use mic to let me push them off and get the penance, get ignored and cry

[drifting mauve]

The blow up one is funny but like you're def just griefing your team to do it lmfao

[celest hedge]

I think it depends, terrifying barrage can work on most of them since they're fairly close ranged with main staff effect, transfer peril sounds nice but I don't know how weakspot hits work with the staves, doesthat only apply to the basic ball throw and the staff bop?

[devout kelp]

Yeah I'm also stuck on Cliffhanger. And the max charge for 5 mins seems straight bugged.

[ruby spire]

I'm all for challenges but some of the penances are literal memes

[next meteor]

Chasm Logistratum. Get to the large bridge part early on. Go to the skinny part on the side and have someone kite a horde, then you run to the edge and push them off

[drifting mauve]

The description is wrong, you have to do it on heresy aka level 4

[next meteor]

^

[celest hedge]

alot of them are really hard and they require specifically high difficulty

[magic slate]

I know, hence why i agreed with your newbie trap statement

[next meteor]

Had to look that one up

[ornate hamlet]

tbh I just stopped trying to achieve them, It's just not worth it

[faint sigil]

Is there a list of the blessings somewhere or something? I don't know what those do

[blazing shale]

At least for the voidstrike staff, the weakpoints work for the charged up shot. So send that bowling ball through a horde at head-level and enjoy having less perils than you started with.

[devout kelp]

That explains something yes lol

[stone sage]

i would much rather kill 200 enemy's by pushing them off a ledge than kill 20 in 2 sec

[thick thorn]

Do we think we're ever getting a fix for a piddly railing blocking BB or spotting?

[celest hedge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/force-staff-voidstrike

[ruby spire]

I had that map earlier...but also a second psyker in the group attempting to do the same thing 😛

[modest trail]

It works, but you need to do it on Heresy+

[celest hedge]

i think all the staves overall have the same traits avaliable

[next meteor]

For the Going Out With a Bang you need to have teammates willing to push elites into a corner and then you use force sword to build up and continue pushing them until you detonate

[devout kelp]

But wouldn't that mean Psyker has 3 Heresy penances?

[solar remnant]

God it's so annoying

[wet finch]

I managed to get Malleus Monstronum penance today :3

[next meteor]

Yeah. That’s annoying

Sexy

[drifting mauve]

The railings are SOOOOO god damn annoying. I hope this is something they're actively trying to fix

[devout kelp]

Breh I'm still struggling with Cliffhanger.

[plucky breach]

Any tips?

[ornate hamlet]

absolute madman

[magic slate]

Get an ogryn buddy

[modest trail]

Yeah it dosent seem to be working as intended atm, but it IS possible overall

[next meteor]

Lights Out

[thick thorn]

Also was there some shadow nerf to targeting on BB? I swear I will pixel perfect aim, and it will target anything but the giant ogre im mousing over

[celest hedge]

an ogryn with the shield would help alot with getting enemies in place

[next meteor]

Daemonhost will only aggro one player

[devout kelp]

Have tried, didn't work.

[next meteor]

Then just get a four stack

[bleak tulip]

yeah the only boss malleus is even remotely doable without impacting your sanity is demonhost

[magic slate]

Plague ogryn is easy as well

Just kite it around elevation

[bleak tulip]

everything else takes years with how shit BB is in heresy

[devout kelp]

Uhhh, I almost did it with a full team on voice, against a Plague Ogryn.

Then the Ogryn killed me when it had like 1 hp left.

I'm still depressed.

[wet finch]

1. Voice comms with ppl helps soo much
2. Have an area u can run around in.
3. Use a melee weapon with good dodge range, so u can more easily get distance from boss / dodge attacks
4. use lvl 30 feat that lowers BB cd and reduces peril cost
5. if you dodge, also slide => dodge-slide combo

[magic slate]

I did it against a beast of nurgle
That was suffering

[bleak tulip]

good thing I dont particularily care for the black outfit

because I can t be assed to get people to help me with it

[next meteor]

Yeah it needs scaling

[celest hedge]

i feel like the beast of nurgle is much easier for someone to kit around than the plague ogryn

[next meteor]

I’m personally a big fan of the green and red

[magic slate]

Force sword has infinite dodge so can kite forever with it

[barren arch]

to add onto this: dodge-slide
if you crouch after a dodge, you'll also do a slide, extending the range of your dodge and further throwing off tracking

[wet finch]

yes 100%, as psyker u need to learn dodge-slide. Essential.

[ornate hamlet]

At least dmg %based of mob hp or smth. Current fixed dmg is just laughable on Heretic and Damnation

[celest hedge]

man, I really want to get some increased dodge range buffs, I'm not dodging as far as i'd want

[bleak tulip]

yeah im only missing going out with a bang

[oblique path]

I want the old force sword push back. I'll take the peril cost for the better push range.

[devout kelp]

But yeah either way, I definitely think the Psyker penances are... Not that well designed overall. A handful of straight up memes, some insane ones, and some that promote bad behaviour.

Also some that's only gotten harder with Force Push/BB nerfs.

[oblique path]

Use the dueling sword or combat knife

[next meteor]

@bleak tulip

[barren arch]

that being said, vet penances can go fuck themselves

[celest hedge]

more dodge range thou

[devout kelp]

But I don't want to use non-Force weapons that aren't in sync with my kit ;-;

[barren arch]

dear god, the sharpshooter requires me to aim? fuck, I don't think I'm gonna play vet that much guys lmao

[wet finch]

try different weapons, for example dagger or the rapier / dueling sword whatever. Has huge dodge distance

[devout kelp]

LMAO

[ornate hamlet]

If u want any penance done with psyker, u gotta make sacrifices lol

[austere wadi]

Hello fellow pyskers

[bleak tulip]

yeah whenever I feel like trying to do that

[craggy egret]

id like the level 30 trait to affect warp staff charging

that would be awesome

[oblique path]

How did I not know this. Fantastic tip. 👍

[bleak tulip]

especially since the explosion doesnt kill stuff like ragers without some damage first

[austere wadi]

My one and only suggestion to psyker: rework the warp charge mechanic as a whole. Thank you bye

[devout kelp]

LOL too true. Already lost 80 % of my brain cells trying to line up Cliffhanger and Malleus.

[magic slate]

Combat blade only has like 3 effective dodge though, and a noticeable delay compared to force sword

[celest hedge]

warp charges kind of don't feel great until you hit level 15 and get the communion feat

[bold maple]

just make warp charge permanent til your toughness drop or you die

[celest hedge]

that changes how the class plays so much

[ornate hamlet]

feat for force sword charge attacks being AOE when?

[inland ridge]

Just wanted to say as an Ogryn with shield psykers are the best team mates to have, i ping and the psyker snipe ❤️

[devout kelp]

Communion is the 4% for gain?

[ornate hamlet]

I just want to be a melee psyker

[austere wadi]

even level 30 they feel like ass to work with

[craggy egret]

that would be pretty cool or just a force greatsword

[devout kelp]

Love you Ogryns

[craggy egret]

ogryns are friends

[devout kelp]

Psyblade when

[bleak tulip]

the real meta is to pick communion and kinetic flayer and then never worry about charges because it doesnt really matter

[celest hedge]

i'm just about to hit 20 on my psyker. I kind the idea of alot of the psyker level 30 feats but I feel like they don't synergize as well with the rest of hte kit

[devout halo]

based

[devout kelp]

Yeah I was wondering if I should to Flayer over Battery

[austere wadi]

btw is it intentional for the force sword to deal half the bosses hp on a special attack head shot?
it doesnt do nearly as much damage against stuff like maulers or even plague ogryns

[ornate hamlet]

Legit my build. Just running around with 100% peril, 4 charges and swinging my force sword around

[next meteor]

Ogryns truly are the real ones

[ornate hamlet]

Decrease peril by 1% and spam charges

[celest hedge]

flayer is so nice but i like inner tranquality too much

[white fractal]

Buff me!

[austere wadi]

I've 2 shot some bosses with force sword (after breaking shield) with force sword on Malice difficulty

[bold maple]

ascendant blaze + communion + kinetic flayer is goated

[devout kelp]

That's a lot of burns

[ornate hamlet]

Soulblaze is shit like BB until they scale the dmg

[craggy egret]

isnt tranquility a different level?

[bold maple]

nah they kill horde enemies on their own up until damnation

[devout kelp]

Yeah that's the real reason I didn't go full Soulblaze build. Damage was uhhhhh.

[celest hedge]

it is but tranquality wants you to have alot of charges, and 2 of the 3 level 30 feat removes all your charges?

[craggy egret]

yeah i wanted to soulblaze it up

[bold maple]

ranged can be killed with 4 soulblaze stack up til malice

people sleeping on my blaze force push smh

[ornate hamlet]

I mostly play Heretic though 😢

[devout kelp]

I am definitely wanting to do Soulblaze. Just wasn't convinced on the damage.

[next meteor]

I just can’t wait until we get a bolt pistol so I can run force sword bolt pistol

Staves are fun and all but nothing beats a Bolter

[bold maple]

with communion + kinetic flayer you constantly have 4 stack ready to soulblaze force push

that's an insta clear on a horde or a ranged stack in malice/heresy

[devout kelp]

Yeah I'm probably going to go back to Flayer over Battery

[bold maple]

take the toughness regen when gaining a warp charge and you got 30% toughness ticking all the time

[ornate hamlet]

Might as well try it once. Are you running with a staff or gun?

[devout kelp]

Sword I'd imagine

[ornate hamlet]

Fsword is a nobrainer, yeah

[bold maple]

flame staff

[celest hedge]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=d7130b1a-42ea-4c2e-9a3a-6bc34b2977bb
my ideal build that I want to work towards. With inner tranquility, you can use the charge flame attack very often, and with the chance to quell 10% peril on kill, you have a chance to lose more peril than you gain when burning a horde. I don't know if a teammate killing an enemy you set on fire stops you from getting the free quell, but being able to get warp charges from that is so nice

[devout kelp]

Do you prefer 30% over 5 seconds nonstackable over the others?

[ornate hamlet]

Sad, my flame staff only has suppresion blessing, want one with uninterruptable charging

[bold maple]

the other 2 is a massive massive trap and isn't all that useful, I prefer the 30% one yeah

cause you already gain warp charge automatically from kinetic flayer/psychic communion

[devout kelp]

Personally prefer Voidstrike over Flame. That way I also have some range.

[devout kelp]

Yeah I guess.

[celest hedge]

i've only been playing on malice but it works so well, the flame is pretty nice for softening up targets so teammates can kill them in single swings pretty easily, which helps them build temp health, and with that my level 5 feat can give me toughness from a teammate kill thanks to communion, it's so nice when it works

[ornate hamlet]

Does flayer get triggered from soulblaze dot dmg?

[devout kelp]

And, I mean, Voidstrike also shreks hordes.

[austere wadi]

Surge feels like the definitive option but Voidstrike is the most fun.
Surge has insane stagger and solid elite damage
but...
Voidstrike is insanely satisfying on hordes. A charge shot into a horde makes such a satisfying crunch

[celest hedge]

i like the flamethrower staff as a crowd control option

[devout kelp]

Do you use the Soulblaze on elite Burst or other?

[bold maple]

inner tranquillity is a must tbh

[celest hedge]

the flamethrower staff was one of the only staves I liked in vermintide but I didn't like how much it limited my range, but with brain burst as an option, I don't have to worry

[bold maple]

how do you even play this class without that

[bleak tulip]

some of the greatest joy in this game is ripping through 50 horde trash with a void bolt and ending up with less peril than before because of transfer peril

[devout kelp]

Inner Tranquility is the one that uh... I can't remember the names.

[oblique path]

It's a great headshot machine and devastates hordes

[celest hedge]

inner tranq is really good and also the best feat in that tier I think

[fluid crescent]

others seem better but when you are in trouble 99% you're in melee with a lot of zombies/elites and u cant use quelling or staff

[bold maple]

increase peril resistance based on warp charges

[devout kelp]

Ah yes. The one I use too.

[sacred lodge]

so how good are soulblaze builds for higher difficulties?

[celest hedge]

i normally like the toughness when quelling peril one, but essense harvest feels nice with communion since teammate kills have a random chance to just grant some toughness to you

[devout kelp]

True, but you can still quell on 10% on kill, and some weapons get on crit/weakspot too, as well as F bomb.

[celest hedge]

warp absorption is probably also fine but I like the other two more

[bitter orbit]

Tbh I've abandoned that perk. I'm focusing on building peril for the damage boost instead and for the toughness regen

[fluid crescent]

what do you mean with "soublaze build"
I mean, the last feat is amazing but i dont take others feats with soulblaze (trash af imo)

[bitter orbit]

It works pretty well

[wet finch]

I personally find it useless tbh, shit never dies to soulblaze dmg

testing in psykha-whatever, it does minimal dmg even on max charges

[sacred lodge]

ah.
I'm still new to the whole "psyker" deal

[celest hedge]

i like the idea of soul blaze but I feel like it wouldn't get good until way later

[devout kelp]

Psykhanium, yeah

[celest hedge]

since wrack and ruin didn't feel good when I tried it, teammates kept stealing my kills when I was 99% charged, and the range felt bad

[devout kelp]

Soulblaze as a main source of damage (ie the two earlier feats) doesn't seem optimised.

[celest hedge]

kinetic overload sounds nice if the range is good

[devout kelp]

Flayer is just really useful. Utility far outweighs here.

[wet finch]

Whats your favourite melee weapon for psyker?

[celest hedge]

flayer just sounds incredible for the amount of free damage it can give you, free brain bursts man

[devout kelp]

The Force Sword.

AKA the only weapon that has any proper sync with our kit.

[bold maple]

force sword if it has the ranged deflection perk

[celest hedge]

i switch around alot, i'm currently using a chainsword since it's my best melee on mine, i liked the dueling sword in the pass and I enjoyed the knife too

[bold maple]

else duelling sword, one with vertical moveset

[devout kelp]

Ranged Deflection is so good

[bold maple]

im trynna roll a ranged deflection one and put on kinetic deflection feat to roleplay a jedi LOL

[devout kelp]

LOL

[celest hedge]

and can never go wrong with a basic sword, especially the mk1 since you can keep spamming the heavy attack for hordes, which was nice when I didn't have staves

[wet finch]

i was liking the force sword a lot but now i finally tried the duelling sword with vertical moveset too and its pretty amazing honestly, nice combos and dodge distance is king 😄

[bold maple]

yup the vertical duelling sword is insane

heavy + light light combo is better than sex fr fr

[celest hedge]

tactical axes also feel nice in general, I hate how slow the combat axe is and the tact axe has a good mix of damage and speed

[uncut turret]

Quietitude is pretty good as well, particularly if you don't use a force weapon for melee. Auto Quell speed for non force weapons(swords/daggers/axes) is 10% per second, so that translates to around 5% toughness regen per second as long as you have peril up. It basically means you swap between staff and melee quite continuously to keep toughness up. It's really bad with inner tranquility though as lower peril generation means lower toughness regeneration

[devout kelp]

I petition that Ranged Deflection should be a Psykinetic passive instead of a random blessing. Totally.

[devout sluice]

Innacurate data.
reevaluate

[celest hedge]

quietitude is very versatile

[spice oar]

I've been trying a build with the soulblaze and while it's not my best one, it serves me well, especially with hordes

Plus I love the visuals

[wet finch]

do u have the same problem that when doing light attacks, its impossible to cancel animation and switch to BB? I swear it takes 2 seconds to switch atm. Can switch to secondary weapon and block but switching to BB is impossible

[spice oar]

Sometimes I have an issue with switching to a weapon or bb

[devout kelp]

Switching between BB and weapons seems... Clunky at times in general.

[spice oar]

Just switches real fast but then reverts it

[wet finch]

Should probably make a proper forum post about that one

[celest hedge]

i have that problem all the time on both psyker and veteran when i'm switching from my gun to melee or from my burst to melee/staff

[fierce ocean]

didnt like the duelling sword that much. bigger fan of the axes and the chain sword

[bold maple]

yeah sometimes there's a slight delay

[spice oar]

Yes sibling it would help, and I'd up vote it

[opal badger]

Is malleus monstronum and pick and mix even worth trying to get right now or should I just wait until the devs maybe tweak the penances

[bold maple]

the one with cleave stat sucked, the one with defense stat and vertical slashes is where its at

[wet finch]

for me duelling sword light attack => switch to BB always takes about 2 seconds

[celest hedge]

i enjoyed the rapier in verm 2 so i liked that about the dueling sword, I also like the elf spear alot and that had the same fast poking feel

[spice oar]

What's pick and mix again?

[bold maple]

there's 2 different duelling sword archetype

[opal badger]

5 head pops 10 seconds on elites, heresy

[uncut turret]

I've not had weapon switching be stuck an issue personally... barring some really slow weapon switch weapons like bolter and flamer. hmmn maybe you're just getting struck by range/melee and 'flinching' when weapon switching?

[wet finch]

maybe im talking about the other one then instead

[devout kelp]

If the devs tweak the penances to be more humane, I'll be on all four praising the Emperor.

[spice oar]

3 actually

They are all pretty nice

[fierce ocean]

i tried the different D-swords but they just didnt click with me

[spice oar]

Sounds not that bad with the tier 3 talent

I mean last tier talent

[wet finch]

This

[opal badger]

You only have a 0.5 second time frame to mess up

[bitter orbit]

I wish there was more force swords

[devout kelp]

In before BB keeps locking on trash mobs

[uncut turret]

It's pretty difficult unless you have a team that knows you're aiming for it

[bold maple]

issue is it takes 20 thousands BB to kill an elite in heresy

even with t3 talent

[uncut turret]

Kinetic Flayer also helps with it as it 'counts' towards the 5 bb needed, so you can BB some elite with it, pop your ult and start bbing the others

[opal badger]

If you mess up by one second youll lose the challenge since pick and mix was created for old (not nerfed) psyker brain burst

[devout kelp]

More Force weapons in general.
And Psy-Grenades.

[wet finch]

The penance allows u to also kill gunners as well guys

[spice oar]

Then in that case they will fix it

Extend the time

[bold maple]

I wished there was less weapons and more built in power lol

I want to use nothing but my hands

[fierce ocean]

^ this, we need the old psyker back

[devout kelp]

Yes, but gunners are also swimming in trash mobs that block lock on.

[spice oar]

Leaks of a FORCE GREATSWORD

[distant pelican]

I don't Psyker would be keen on using Psy-Grenade

[opal badger]

Hopefully. And while theyre at it hopefully monstronum is tweaked too. Way too busted to do and just griefs your team

[distant pelican]

Easier to balance by having the weapon bear the power

[bold maple]

you could make it tied to gloves/spellbook or something

[spice oar]

If and when I get my hands on the FORCE GREATSWORD I'll be the happiest reject on atoma

[devout kelp]

And while they're at it they might as well just give me Cliffhanger for compensation for my lost braincells.

[bold maple]

I just dont like the fashion of staff

[distant pelican]

That still would make them weapon bound spell

[opal badger]

Force greatsword would be awesome

[terse orbit]

Just having a good horde clearer on melee will make me happier

[opal badger]

Cleave that brain bursts?

[spice oar]

Nah I was thinking an anti horde

Since force sword already got the single target one

Maybe a Blade projectile

[ornate hamlet]

no cd kinetic flayer

[lilac patio]

so uh

voidstrike best staff yeah?

[spice oar]

THAT'D be cool as KARK

[lilac patio]

trauma second best yeah?

[opal badger]

Badass idea

[dark kiln]

can I get some tips to get the kill 20 enemies within 2 seconds by pushing them off a cliff?

[devout kelp]

I just spam light attacks and dodge until they're all gone.

That said I mained Handmaiden Kerillian so I might be masochist.

[craggy egret]

KABOOM makes me happy

[lilac patio]

agreed

purgatus mid

[craggy egret]

i hate trauma staff

purgatus mid

[lilac patio]

and uhhhh surge is ass

[opal badger]

Voidstrike headshots sound so viceral and meaty its awesome

[spice oar]

🤝

[craggy egret]

i think surge staff is awesome for cc, but it costs so much peril

[terse orbit]

Same, but having a real dedicated one would be superior

[wintry nacelle]

Hey, do you guys have any advice to done the penance that we need to kill 3 elite by self explode ? I already done the one we need to kill the monstrosity but that one is very annoying

[opal badger]

Purgutus is busted with the right stats tho

[ornate hamlet]

imagine getting staffs at the trader, lmao

[devout kelp]

Assume fetal position
Cry

[lilac patio]

trauma is the one that makes explosion on the ground right?

[fierce ocean]

im split between voidstrike and surge being the best staff. both have really good utility and DMG

[dark kiln]

I have already done that xD

[terse orbit]

Expect the elf main part

[ornate hamlet]

which ones?

[wet finch]

id recommend trying to copy some setups seen in yt videos, then just a lot of tries on those

[silent bay]

is it pure RNG what shows up in armory? I havent seen a force sword on there in what feels like 15 trust levels

[spice oar]

I use a build to let me spam as much as possible, need to find a gold staff tho

[devout kelp]

lol imagine getting actual Force weapons and not XYZ Lasgun.

[lilac patio]

Personally voidstrike is much better, alt fire pens first target + explosion on second hit

[opal badger]

High burn, damage, and radius

[lilac patio]

though surge is not far off

[bold maple]

flame staff with soulblaze stack on crit melts everything it touches

[ornate hamlet]

My whole armory since week one

Axes and lasguns

[spice oar]

I feel like all are good options

[celest hedge]

part of me almost miss using a gun on psyker, I miss psykers having the shotgun in the old beta

[devout kelp]

Same, Sibling. Same.

[silent bay]

there's no way to actually target a wpn right? its all RNG drops after missions and RNG with armory/contract vendor?

[spice oar]

Maybe trauma needs more love tho,

[opal badger]

Also kinetic flayer can proc through soul blaze damage. Not the dots but the times you hit

[terse orbit]

So how many people here blow themselves up per mission

[fierce ocean]

true but i like the large area stun surge provides

[opal badger]

same with surge

[solar loom]

Hello fellow headache enthusiasts

[tepid nest]

I'm using dark modifier as an excuse to use guns.

[lilac patio]

true, honestly you can't go wrong either way

[wide quest]

Ragers are your best bet because they usually spawn in groups of 3-4. Have on ogryn with shield aggro them, then have your team lower their health halfway or do it yourself (you can test out in the meat grinder to see the damage). After that just boom boom and congrats. Shotgunners can also work, but they're very annoying.

[craggy egret]

how does the stun on surge work, is it aoe or limited targets

[terse orbit]

Zaps 5 targets in a chain

[spice oar]

Real iNcOmParAbLE MiNds hrs

[devout kelp]

Imagine this

Force. Shotgun.

[solar loom]

It chains from enemy to enemy, hitting 5 in total I think

[lilac patio]

My build is 1 3 1 2 3 3, what do we think?

[celest hedge]

the shotgun on psyker was so good when you have a group of corrupt guardsman in close range, it was nice to be able to pull it out and 1 shot kill them in quick succession rather than rating to quell between each burst

[spice oar]

Swear I had more than 5,maybe a trick of the warp

[solar loom]

Psyker builds are kind of meh right now becasuse there aren't any good talents in half the tiers anyways.

[fickle fiber]

How does the Burn stat scale on the fire staff? Anyone know?

[celest hedge]

i feel that about most classes besides maybe zealot

[tepid nest]

This is true.

[spice oar]

True, the tier with the 4% passive charge is just so much better in most builds

[ornate hamlet]

Surge staff is great until you're standing at a ledge or stairs, u start shooting lighting into another dimension, touching no one

[devout kelp]

I don't know, Vets always seem to burst elites faster than my BB.

[celest hedge]

besides zealot, each class has 1-2 tiers with very meh perks, and some that are interesting looking but I would never take over the alternative

[wintry nacelle]

Okay ! Then I think I just have no luck haha

[solar loom]

With the Sharpshooter you can at least decide if you want to be a sniper, a grenadier or a fire support build.

[opal badger]

Talents on psyker really dont compliment the specific staves too much. I hope the expand on subclasses by making each subclass catered to each staff in some way, and have the class we have now as like a middle ground all-rounder

[fierce ocean]

didnt play psyker much in the old beta but psyker feels bit underwhelming when going heresy or damnation compared to other classes

[devout kelp]

I've just accepted that BB isn't part of my kit.

[wintry nacelle]

I always killed 1 or 2 of them never 3

[bold maple]

eh malice is where psyker is strongest

[solar loom]

Like, picking your talents is going to change how your character plays quite a bit with Sharpshooter.

[ornate hamlet]

I forgot about BB the moment I got a force sword and torrent lasgun

[celest hedge]

they can but they have to reload and maintain ammo, BB trades ammo for peril and has auto aim

[craggy egret]

bb buff,... one day

[bold maple]

heresy + damnation is when it drop off

[ornate hamlet]

Only BB I do is snipers

[spice oar]

I've made like a build for the surge and purgatus but the rest dont compliment them no

[terse orbit]

I need to get that penance done

[finite goblet]

what a garbage staff lol

[devout kelp]

Auto aim but the aim gets locked on to every poxwalker or blocked by railing. Also has a slow charge time.

[terse orbit]

I'm not looking forward to it

[lilac patio]

for non force weapons I do 1 3 1 2 3 3, when I have voidstrike I do 1 1 1 2 3 3

[solar loom]

I don't BB at all. Not really worth it.

[wide quest]

We mostly don't even use bb a lot on heresy+, it's mostly used on hounds, snipers, bombers, maybe gunners, and the ogryn enemies.

[craggy egret]

or give like a level 30 trait that makes bb consume charges to explode

[opal badger]

I have slight builds for each but nothing too great. I want more flames and lightning

[craggy egret]

like a voidstrike explosion

but bigger, badder and boomer

[wide quest]

Basically anything that the team isn't focusing on or the vet is too occupied.

[celest hedge]

the special killing guns are nice but I don't think the veteran nade is that great of a horde option, while with spyker you have your BB for specials which leaves your gun open for hordes

[spice oar]

Same sibling, same

[pale pilot]

yeah, i wish psyker's talents weren't so BB-focused. i primarily just ignore it unless i need something specific dead, like a sniper. any other use-case it's too easy to get swarmed

[devout kelp]

Basically we became the janitor

[spice oar]

This

[craggy egret]

agreed

[wide quest]

I like being a janitor.

[craggy egret]

yo that the real mr clean

[opal badger]

Name checks out

[solar loom]

Voidstrike really doesn't explode very much at all. It looks like it explodes, but it's more like firing an old style pirate cannon into enemies.

[spice oar]

Make it more about general warp usage, give staff some love

[sacred lodge]

yeah, the veteran kind of subsumed us on the special/elite/boss takedown spot, because brainburst takes too long

[celest hedge]

Psykers are a better special killer I feel, a psyker can take care of an ogryn faster than a veteran who would have to pump a ton of ammo in them

[bold maple]

out of all the cool shit psyker can do in lore, we get a lil head pop as built in power

even our push dont do dmg

[devout kelp]

Make it sync with non-Force weapons too, if they're so intent on filling our armoury with it.

[ornate hamlet]

what do the 4 stacks of head popping do ?

[opal badger]

Bro the emperor is a psyker, and look what his holy ass can do

[celest hedge]

I feel like psykers are better for the ammo economy of the group just because of ogryns

[wide quest]

Psykers are only better than veteran when it comes to certain ogryn enemies, the rest vet can handle much faster. But then there's the janky ass hound.

[ornate hamlet]

This, we just get shit on by power standards

[fierce ocean]

i hate it how psyker is made out to be this insane singletarget dmg dealer but the reality is that psyker is better at waveclearing or cleaning up because they are outshined by vets at everything psyker should be the best at

[sacred lodge]

ok, but he's also the emperor

[devout kelp]

It's like those golden stars you get in Kindergarten

[sacred lodge]

that's like comparing Yamcha to fucking Jiren

[solar loom]

According to the official material they aren't even a special killer, they are an "Elite killer", meaning basically just the regular soldiers that are slightly meaner than a horde.

[ornate hamlet]

lol

[opal badger]

True, praise be.

[spice oar]

Lmao

[craggy egret]

🥲

[wide quest]

They're much better at a support role than the elite killing role that the majority of people think psykers are "supposed" to be.

[pale pilot]

yeah but that's also like five to ten seconds i'm not helping CC with a surge staff or flame staff(which is hard broken for me. it Crashes to desktop on flaming someone), or ruining a horde with a void staff.

[devout kelp]

Be a Psyker: Because we have nothing to prove. Not that we're great. Just that we have nothing to show for it.

[terse orbit]

Saw someone else with the flame staff crashing thing

[craggy egret]

i mean a lot of that is because the official media says we are supposed to be the single target

[solar loom]

At the end of the day using the staves is really fun.

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine not having BB unbound day one until they fix it

[terse orbit]

Left the game 6 times cause my buddy wouldn't let it go

[wide quest]

If you ever do the solo boss with brain burst penance, pray that you get the plague ogryn. Because oh boy soloing the beast of nurgle is a pain in the ass.

[devout kelp]

Give me proper support tools, like buff auras and shit.

[spice oar]

Hope we get more, even 1-2 more

[solar loom]

That's why I play Psyker. I like hitting enemies with big charged up AoEs.

[bold maple]

you use flame staff because you want to cc horde for the team, I use flame staff to crash my teammate's client, we are not the same

[silent bay]

how do we provide support? CC on surge staff?

[pale pilot]

also do force sword uncharged kills count for the warp weapon kills toughness restore? i remember testing it back in the closed beta and it not working unless you channeled the blade

[ornate hamlet]

I spam purgatus every match to purge the weak technopriests

[stable nacelle]

Question about warp battery penance. Do I need to be in heresy difficulty since I legit timed it twice and still didnt get the penance at malice difficulty?

[devout kelp]

But we are all Siblings. You, me, and your Beloved.

[terse orbit]

Then the zealot comes up and does cc better

[opal badger]

Already tried Beast of nurgle. I had a team of 4 in discord and we all got wiped. Threw the game basically. Im probably giving up for now

[spice oar]

It's prob supposed to be the blade channel

[devout kelp]

Yep

[spice oar]

Makes sense

[fierce ocean]

i know, but to me it seemed like psyker was made out to be the insane STDD (single target damage dealer) atleast thats how i first felt when i saw the psyker trailer

[stable nacelle]

Thanks

[queen shoal]

Is the achievment for 300 seconds at max warp charges currently bugged? i played an entire mission on malice with 4 charges and didnt get it

[solar loom]

I would like a staff that fires a projectile that has a slight arc, actually explodes, and instead of knocking enemies away it draws enemies into the center. Sort of like the Black Hole attack in ELEX

[bold maple]

give psyker ability to force choke elite and see our population skyrocket

[devout halo]

heresy only i think

[ornate hamlet]

Bad description, needs to be Heresy or higher

[stable nacelle]

do it in heresy apparently its bugged

[fierce ocean]

yes please. then i can complete my darth sidius cosplay

[short parrot]

So have they said anything about Psyker not feeling like garbage in heresy and damnation or are we all Psycoping

[craggy egret]

i think the problem for psyker is we dont excell at... anything. zealot is better cc, vet is better at killing elites, ogryn is better at having a single target grenade

[queen shoal]

ty, achievment says malice and i was confused

[devout kelp]

BB is our poster boy.

In the same way we see stage Elvis Presley, and then in reality it's obese diaper Elvis Presley.

[wide quest]

Support role in here can be many jobs and not just the basic form of support that we're used to from lots of other games. It could be helping teammates out with hordes when they're focusing on elites or a certain task, killing some annoying specials while the vet is too occupied, and ccing a horde or special/elite enemys for the team.

[terse orbit]

But we play it anyways

[craggy egret]

yeah, itll get buffed tho COPIUM

[wide quest]

Psykers basically fill the small holes the the team has.

[silent bay]

ahh i see what you mean

[terse orbit]

Sometimes in a stupid massive amount

[solar loom]

They didn't make any changes to the psyker in the latest patch, which means one of two things: 1. They don't care about psyker issues at all, or 2. They know psyker needs bigger changes than the other classes.

[terse orbit]

Let's go 4 man psyker teams

[wide quest]

Not good at a specific job, but flexible.

[silent bay]

just want to make sure i understand the differences between all the staffs as i dont have the names committed to memory yet...

surge staff = lightning CC
voidstrike = big ball explosion
trauma staff = AoE circle
Purgatus = flamethrower

is that right?

[devout kelp]

Flexible, but if you flex us too much we break.

[next meteor]

Mutant squad

[solar loom]

Psyker teams are super fun until you run into a monstrosity. Then you die, because you have nothing that does serious damage to them.

[patent ledge]

yeah pretty much

[ornate hamlet]

I mean they're pretty busy with getting the game to be stable for everyone.
100% I believe they will rework the psyker

[ornate hamlet]

4 psyker spamming force sword charges

[wide quest]

I got a bleed knife lmao. But as long as the beast of nurgle doesn't eat me I'm fine.

[devout kelp]

They already reworked us once, remember Sibling.

[silent bay]

for the surge staff and purgatus, shoudl you be charging up the secondary to full before using?

[craggy egret]

nerfed*

[pale pilot]

which then becomes a "man i really like melee, and i wish i had some support for regaining toughness while in melee or getting swarmed. hybrid play is fun"

[solar loom]

The problem is that any enemy that doesn't get stunned by the charged force sword can simply walk away from it and not even get hit.

[next meteor]

If you are about to get hit no

[terse orbit]

It's random if they carry the force sword (despite it being objectively the best melee for psyker rn)

[next meteor]

Also depends on the size of the horde

[devout kelp]

😭

[next meteor]

If it just spawned and it’s massive yes absolutely

[silent bay]

what does the charge actually do? is it reflective on how long the ability goes? so charging more lightning means the lightning is chained longer/further?

[next meteor]

For purgatus yes

[ornate hamlet]

I mostly use forcesword or chainsword tbh

[next meteor]

Not entirely sure about lightning

[manic halo]

Honestly I wish the brain bust stacks decayed one at a time. Not all at once

[pale pilot]

for surge it definitely affects damage and power of the stun

[manic halo]

would make it far more managable to keep them up

[wide quest]

More damage only I think. Not sure if it also affects the stun capability.

[ornate hamlet]

No, just means higher first target dmg, every other chain is the same

[craggy egret]

that would make it feel way better

[silent bay]

seemed like i was getting more value doing minimal charge with surge staff

[manic halo]

( and less annoying when someone steals the kill )

[terse orbit]

Those two are our best, but some people swear on devil claw and tact axe

[wide quest]

But yeah I personally just spam surge staff instead of charging it.

[silent bay]

trauma staff seems straight forward with higher charge = bigger circle but the dmg is unaffected?

[next meteor]

It seems like it is affected

From my experience

[silent bay]

all the M1s on the staffs are the same right?

[next meteor]

Idk maybe not

[pale pilot]

devil claw and tactical axe are great weapons that can't do the big damage

[next meteor]

No

[manic halo]

I think my favourite suggestion I saw was that if someone kills a target you are bursting it would cause some sort of interacton. Like it would spread soul fire even without the perk

[next meteor]

Almost all yes

Purgatus M1 sucks

The rest are the projectile

[manic halo]

Would be cool way for synergies

[devout kelp]

Voidstrike staff is my favourite. I like artillery.

[next meteor]

Purgatus primary is a single flame burst

Which only deals initial damage

[pale pilot]

Purgatus M1 is great for a quick stagger and appling a stack or so of soulflame

but you use it to get someone off your ass long enough to start a charge

[silent bay]

so how does the charge work with voidstrike? the enemy that the orb hits takes increased dmg? or the whole explosion is increased based on charge?

[solar remnant]

I wish left click was a bit more varied across the staffs

[pale pilot]

bigger ball, bigger damage on voidstrike, bigger ball means bigger hitbox

[devout kelp]

Voidstrike flies through everyone and then explodes. More charge more oomph.

[pale pilot]

in addition to boosting the actual explosion stats

[next meteor]

I typically stun and then melee

[wide quest]

I usually only charge the voidstrike staff halfway.

[next meteor]

It’s decent if running I suppose

[terse orbit]

Getting headshots while aim around cover is always a bonus since a vet can sometimes not kill any range enemy for his life

[devout kelp]

huehuehue

[pale pilot]

so you charge your hadoken to make a big ball that does better damage as you charge it and that charge also makes the explosion at the end bigger and do more damage. the bigger hitbox means headshots are easier and so on and so forth

[silent bay]

what is soulblaze? i see it mentioned in feat descriptions but i dont see it explained what it does

unless im just blind

[silent wave]

DOT effect

[odd dawn]

i think it's just the psychic fire effect

[silent wave]

it's pretty bad overall right now

[solar remnant]

Like fire but blue

[manic halo]

ye it spreads fire

Make it so if someone shoots a target you are about to burst it always spreads soul fire

[pale pilot]

it's a damage over time debuff. psychic/warpfire applied through some psyker weapons and perks

[manic halo]

fun synergys

[pale pilot]

just like how the flamer applies burning and so on

[manic halo]

ye

[devout kelp]

Psyker: We do everything everyone else does better, but blue.

[next meteor]

So true

[silent bay]

is there really no in game explanation for what soulblaze is?

[odd dawn]

nope

most effects dont get an explanation lol

[silent bay]

oof

[raw breach]

Greetings siblings

[wide quest]

Yes sibling.

[manic halo]

My beloved says hello

[raw breach]

Soulblaze is a fire dot. What more do you need to know? it does burn damage

[pale pilot]

yeah bleed and burning don't get descriptions either

[devout kelp]

Greetings Sibling

[next meteor]

You’ll get used to it

[ornate hamlet]

Gun psyker best psyker

[next meteor]

It allows for more curiosity and personal discovery!

[odd dawn]

question though
is the "hold max warp charges for 300 seconds" penance bugged?

[pale pilot]

yes

[next meteor]

And is absolutely not an oversight

[silent bay]

i dont mind coming in here and asking, was just curious

[fierce ocean]

btw. does anyone have the Psyker Loner voiceline of killing a rager on record? the one where they say along the lines of ''i would be mad too if i looked like that''

[next meteor]

No you’re fine lol

[ornate hamlet]

If you time your warp charge and use a auto pistol you can wipe out a whole horde

[raw breach]

the accatran lasgun build is pretty scary.... but i refuse to play without my force staff

[pale pilot]

it's bugged for the wrong difficulty

[fierce ocean]

nope, you have to do it in heresy or higher

[odd dawn]

ffs, that explains it

[ornate hamlet]

I use auto pistop

[odd dawn]

i held max charges for 7 minutes on malice and was like "wtf"

[ornate hamlet]

Auto pistol fucks and it fucks hard

[manic halo]

I honestly do think psyker will be changed again on release

[raw breach]

the little smg?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Hope not

[manic halo]

Im not huffing copium i SWEAR

[pale pilot]

yeah the pistols all feel really damn good

[raw breach]

yeah, that thing hurts since it got buffed

[next meteor]

I will only play gun psyker upon bolt pistol release

[fierce ocean]

it must be, other classes do the psykers job better than psyker itself

[wet finch]

Not bugged, you have to do it on heresy though. Penance text shows malice.

[manic halo]

well when I say that i mean changed for the better

[ornate hamlet]

I want the two handed force sword

[silent bay]

how does gun psyker work, is it based on the Kinetic Flayer feat?

[raw breach]

gun psycher, but i get to use ogryn's LMG

[ornate hamlet]

Oh then agree

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah

[odd dawn]

unfortunately my psyker's only level 8 so that isnt happening lol

[pale pilot]

i would consider that a bug, considering it's listed in the malice tier of penances for psykinetic

[silent bay]

can the soulblaze proc a BB as well?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

Actually it can

[silent bay]

oh wow thats pretty cool

is it all attacks from justt me or the team?

[raw breach]

233232 for the gun build with better synergy than any force staff because they don't count as warp attacks for some reason.

[wet finch]

so can flamer hits / burns

[pale pilot]

yeah a flamestaff user with kinetic flayer will always be proccing flayer basically instantly as it comes off cooldown

[silent bay]

so i imagine high rate of fire wpns or flamestaff are great for that

[uncut turret]

Heh, I'm actually using a bleed dagger as well. With Purgatus, it does great everything damage XD Then I just use BB to kill snipers/high prio, but I'm usually just slicing and burning with the nearby zealot XD

[manic halo]

I was dissopointed when I saw that the force sword had next to no horizontal swings. But then i found the lightning staff

[ornate hamlet]

Just you

[next meteor]

Just flick around your mouse wildly and you’ll be alright

It’s what I do

[silent bay]

i got greedy lol, ty

[manic halo]

good idea

[pale pilot]

christ i hope the other force swords will have some more crowd controll

[ornate hamlet]

Two handed force sword still is coming

[terse orbit]

They will only give us one force sword

[silent bay]

that would be a great way to buff the class, make all attacks from teammates potentially proc BB as well, would probably be broke

[ornate hamlet]

Im waiting for it

[terse orbit]

I heard it in a dream

[manic halo]

If you have max brain busts every kill with a force weapon should cause soul fire

really reward the psyker for it

[wet finch]

is this confirmed? havent seen any pics or anything myself

[raw breach]

ughhhhhh yeessssss

[pale pilot]

there was another force sword in the psyker trailer, i'm guessing it wasn't a two-hander and was an unseen variant of the blaze

[raw breach]

the problem as of last time i checked was that force staff attacks aren't counting as warp attacks for the sake of feat procs

[manic halo]

BRUH

[mild lotus]

A decent horizontal combo for the force sword is light-heavy-block/light and back to start

[manic halo]

psykers are the most opressed class

in game and in lore

[raw breach]

in early beta there were two force sword variants

[terse orbit]

Psykers are just the gamers of 40k

[pale pilot]

in lore ogryn are probably more oppressed

[next meteor]

From your Beloved?

[pale pilot]

just they don't exactly realize it mostly

[ornate hamlet]

Showed in trailer

[manic halo]

of course

[silent bay]

i dont remember where i heard it (lore vid i think) but they said psykers are treated similar to mages in dragon age

[manic halo]

beloved tells us everything

[silent bay]

which i found a really good comparison

feared and ostracized but you need them

[earnest elbow]

Pysker more like I think it’s cool that there’s a class with an unlimited resource, but can still use normal ranged weapons

[manic halo]

I honestly love the voice lines for the beloved. Half the time im sure its just a deamon fucking with them but the fact that its sometimes helpful and warns them of whats happening makes me think

[pale pilot]

sorta, yeah, dragon age mage themes are definitely influenced by warhammer fantasy/40k's magic systems

[raw breach]

Ogryn's would have to be viewed as equals to be oppressed. Ogryn are disposable tools. Psykers are hunted down

[ornate hamlet]

No its the emperor

[earnest elbow]

WAit you guys actually hear voices

[bitter orbit]

Do ogryns get put in black ships and are fed to the astronomican? I didn't think so

[ornate hamlet]

It actually is the emp

[manic halo]

did they specifically state

[silent bay]

i always wondered what those random whispers were

[manic halo]

cause I thought they left it kinda open

[pale pilot]

i'm pretty sure it's a weird synesthesia they have about viewing the emp

[ornate hamlet]

He literally said that his beloved is uncomfortable on the throne

And that the imperium is not understanding his message

[earnest elbow]

I went the funny accented pysker girl that is disillusioned with the imperium

[terse orbit]

Who knows who the beloved is

[earnest elbow]

He could also be insane

[manic halo]

yeah but I don't really trust the psykers words like that. Could just be a teeznch demon or what not

fucking with em

[terse orbit]

Just know he/she/it loves us atleast

[silent bay]

oh my frequent d/c's got upgraded from error 2003 to 2007

[ornate hamlet]

The emperor is known in the lore to fuck with random psykers thou

[pale pilot]

they're treated as less than human, constantly used in chattel slavery for hard labor, and the only lot in life they have is slave or guard auxiliary. at least psykers can have rank. psykers can move up in the world

[manic halo]

I like to believe that it is just a demon that the psyker somehow befriended

[gleaming sparrow]

Do you hear the voices too!?

[next meteor]

If you choose “The Voices” as one of your character traits it explicitly says in the synopsis that the Emperor spoke to you

[raw breach]

I also heard a sibling say that everyone keeps getting their beloved's name wrong... so not the Emp?

[ornate hamlet]

Id doubt that because theres alot of lines that scream its the big E

[odd dawn]

probably referring to being called "god-emperor" and not just "emperor"

[earnest elbow]

if they aren’t immediately deleted by the local inquisition

[manic halo]

ye

[bitter orbit]

Provided they are good enough. And often they are shot by commissars. In fact they get treated like shit by everyone on the militarum

[silent bay]

would be awesome if there was a way to view your choices

[worn canopy]

Good to see there are more psyker players. Running joke that I am one of 13 psyker mains.

[manic halo]

I chose that for my zealot but she doesn't hear him smh

shes not faithful enough

[terse orbit]

Bro I'm another of the 13

[next meteor]

Tragic

[bold maple]

we're all secretly vet main, you're the only one

[manic halo]

I tried maining psyker but im too zealot pilled and can't comprehend not having toughness regen on demand

or dealing with the fact my head pops get stolen

[worn canopy]

🤯🫵

[raw breach]

Does it count if I have two mains? Psyker and Ogryn?

[earnest elbow]

Or don’t kill past 4 like dude just let me kill the doggy

[mild lotus]

imagine

[worn jewel]

Just use quietude. You'll be quelling if you use a staff

[mild lotus]

psyker ogryns

[bitter orbit]

I'm a psyker main 🙂

[manic halo]

Im too low level ree

[earnest elbow]

Yeah yeah, i leveled everyone in ratclick

[raw breach]

Gun Psyker with LMG

[worn canopy]

I would say you’re half psyker main. But ogryn counts as two people so you’re 1/3rd psyker main.

[odd dawn]

I feel like it'd be fun to main psyker but the early levels are sooooo... baaaad....

[manic halo]

early levels seem like ass

as psytker

[worn canopy]

Worth it

[bold maple]

early psyker is just vet without the perks

[manic halo]

damn m,e and vara on the same wavelength

[solar remnant]

We are true siblings and pals

[mild lotus]

late lvls aren't too great either

[manic halo]

psykers sharing minds be like that smh

[odd dawn]

8 levels in i feel like i should literally just be using the lasgun and not even bothering with brainburst

[terse orbit]

You unlock the cool force sword early though

[worn canopy]

Sibling chat

[earnest elbow]

For real the worst part of these games is the grind from samey weapons to something actually interesting

[mild lotus]

psyker isn't too great overall I feel

[next meteor]

Shh

[pale pilot]

zealot's my least favorite, now. they're carried too much by their weapons, i think. i've been trying to make zealot work for me and it's a whole lot of not being resilient enough to get stuck in as the way toughness bleedthrough damage works keeps wrecking me.

[bitter orbit]

It is great. It just needs more love, the psyker is a risky class, but if the buff the damage it would be worth playing

[mild lotus]

vet kills specials and elites faster and more easily(unless they run away), zealot is the certified lawn mower of warhammer darktide dealing with hordes easy and ogryns are just hecking beefy

[next meteor]

It should be a dangerous class to play, the payoff just isn’t worth it rn

At least not quite

I’d say it’s close

[raw breach]

hell yeah!

[worn canopy]

Psyker does feel weak on higher levels but

Flame go fwoosh

[bitter orbit]

That's what I'm saying. It feels like it should do more damage

[pale pilot]

bzooort

[tawny maple]

and psyker is a great generalist who can do all of that together, albeit not as well

[manic halo]

Zealot kinda just works for me. Honestly probably one of the most forgiving classes if you want to just straight melee

[raw breach]

i feel like none of the other psykers i've seen using Purgatus know what finger rolling is and they just spam left click

[pale pilot]

finger rolling?

[mild lotus]

finger rolling?

[bitter orbit]

Idk about being a veteran. Psyker is shit at killing elites. And the psyker is squishy af

[terse orbit]

Finger rolling?

[raw breach]

Right click, immediately left click

[bitter orbit]

I'd say the psyker is good at dealing with hordes

[terse orbit]

Oh

[pale pilot]

oh.

[terse orbit]

Weird terminology

[pale pilot]

yeah

[raw breach]

Vermintide terminology i guess, yeah it is kinda weird

[mild lotus]

if you use a force staff maybe but if you don't want to be quelling 24/7 and use a gun, not too much

[manic halo]

with hoards?

[pale pilot]

i'm a controller nerd so that doesn't parse to me but sure.

[manic halo]

oh right lightning staff

and shizz

[mild lotus]

I don't like staves tbh

[bitter orbit]

Tbh why use a gun on a psyker. Just play vet

[terse orbit]

I use voidstrike

[mild lotus]

force sword tho is my shit

[iron sundial]

When does psyker actually get good?

[terse orbit]

Haven't found a good replacement for it yet

[south monolith]

Voidstrike with the quelling trait is top tier for hordes

[bold maple]

staves are dog, give me a spellbook or a pair of glove

[manic halo]

I wish the staff powers were base kit but that wouldn't work

[pale pilot]

honestly probably should be reclassifying psyker from "kark that guy in particular" to "support all rounder"

[next meteor]

That’s what I’m saying

Again

[bitter orbit]

Lvl 20 or so

[bold maple]

it's not about performance, it's about fashion

[next meteor]

We need a bolt pistol

[terse orbit]

[tawny maple]

You just need to practice more, literally nobody snipes as well as a psyker, unless enemy is in close range. Try hitting those 50m shots as a veteran

[solar loom]

Yea, Psyker is currently pretty bad. It's good at horde clearing, it's good at crowd control, but it's awful at killing bosses because everything it has is low DPS, and the other classes outshine it at killing elites and specials.

[pale pilot]

when you get a staff that isn't trauma

[mild lotus]

Because vet doesn't appeal to me?

[terse orbit]

Don't let them know it can basically infinitely fire

[pale pilot]

like no joke, once i got my first surge staff, psyker clicked into place and i was having way more fun

[raw breach]

as soon as you get your lightning staff

[manic halo]

What I don't get about psykers ult is that it affects enemies 90m away but it misses pox walkers right in front of me

[bitter orbit]

I know about this. But bb is low damage and not good at killing most elites. It's good with snipers and dogs. Which makes it a situational skill

[mild lotus]

psyker's ult isn't a cone, it's a cylinder

[terse orbit]

Stop looking at the enemies 90m away and look right in front of you

[manic halo]

oh

[tawny maple]

what difficulty are you playing

[manic halo]

ok

thanks lol

[terse orbit]

I don't know actually

[manic halo]

[bitter orbit]

Im talking about heresy plus

[manic halo]

man I felt hella stupid for a second

[terse orbit]

Seems like another bug to add to the psyker list

[solar loom]

This is true, but the drop-off in pushing power is so severe past the first 5 meters or so that you don't even notice that enemies 50m away get pushed ever so slightly unless you have the soulblaze feat on it.

[mild lotus]

I say that so psykers stop trying to push away mobs in their peripheral vision

[terse orbit]

I force push closer to the ground when in surrounded and need space quick

[mild lotus]

I did that for the longest time

until it clicked

[terse orbit]

So that might actually help

[pale pilot]

i should probably try to get cliffhanger when i get home now that i saw a video on how do.

[mild lotus]

how then?

[minor adder]

Is it worth using soulblaze talents or would it be better to get 6 charges?

[terse orbit]

Get lucky

[mild lotus]

I tried on chasm logistratum but having a solo game i hard even in diff 1

[mild lotus]

the other one

[manic halo]

I wish the soul blaze stuff was easier to use

[raw breach]

You guys know what's sad though? My Ogryn's stacking bleed does better boss damage than my entire Psyker kit.

[minor adder]

fair

[mild lotus]

the third choice

[solar loom]

Yea, it's basically like a Fun Roh Dah that shoots out in front of you, except instead of throwing mofos across the room it just lightly taps them.

[next meteor]

I got cliffhanger like second try when I did it with a friend

[minor adder]

I was using it for a bit

[manic halo]

headpopping elites before my vet just removes them is hard

[next meteor]

Just do Chasm Logistratum endless horde

[terse orbit]

Until they add the one sabotage mission back

[minor adder]

15 sec cooldown made me want to try the other ones

[terse orbit]

They ask your team nicely

[next meteor]

That too

[tawny maple]

I've been killing pretty much everything on heresy, not difficult if you have lvl30 feat that buffs bb. Sure, damage scaling could be better, but if you're aware of the situation and your powers you can already do a lot

[terse orbit]

Then watch your zealot flame all of them away anyways

[mild lotus]

15 sec seems long but keep in mind warp charges last 25 sec

[next meteor]

I also need to complete that mission on malice for my second headgear

[mild lotus]

• free burst on the poor soul you procc it on

[south monolith]

Any one else try using Deflector on the forcesword against snipers yet? I am heavily invested in blocking and it ignored the block I had up.

[mild lotus]

Just side dodge it

easier and more reliable

at least to me

[minor adder]

lmao true yeah

[pale pilot]

needs on the uh chasm logistratum in the first area, and the endless horde modifier is mandatory. bait the horde onto the little thin walkway and then shove them off with the ult

[minor adder]

[bitter orbit]

Wait there is a feat that buffs bb? How?

[south monolith]

Well ya, I do that. This is for science

[mild lotus]

third one

[terse orbit]

Not damage

[mild lotus]

you charge bb faster by 25%

[magic slate]

Only slab shield blocks snipers

[bitter orbit]

What does it buff?

I need to look at it

[terse orbit]

Cool down

[solar remnant]

And peril use

[pale pilot]

charge speed and perils cost

[mild lotus]

. @bitter orbit

[south monolith]

Time to put on a karen wig and go to fatshark lol

[bitter orbit]

Oh that one

[next meteor]

This is why you need Ogryn buddies

[mild lotus]

you didn't try to parry the shot with a catachan sword yet?

try

[bitter orbit]

Yeah for a short time after ukt cast lmao

[mild lotus]

for science

[tawny maple]

lvl30, cuts the time and peril cost you need to charge in half for 10 seconds (meaning you can get 5 bbs in 10 sec), combined with -15% ult cooldown on elite kills in coherency makes you a very good sniper

[minor adder]

opinions on lv 30 skill points? are the ones that cleanse your stacks actually worth

[mild lotus]

meh

[bold maple]

meh

[mild lotus]

I prefer the third choice

[bold maple]

they're all meh

[south monolith]

Nope, I only use forcesword. Maybe on another character lol

[minor adder]

lmao it seems that way

[proud sierra]

honestly just fix the gpu hang crashes and im happy

[bitter orbit]

Oh I see. Fuck that, that seems like a boring build to me tbh

[mild lotus]

soul blaze is alright I guess with the proper stuff

[minor adder]

yeah maybe

[next meteor]

Real talk though

Are we ever getting a force axe

[tawny maple]

how is a viable sniper build boring?

[mild lotus]

ew

[minor adder]

i could imagine a proper burn build with skill points and staff

[craggy bluff]

BB does too little damage even with that ult buff to justify switching out of the crowd control staff, the other classes can kill the elites faster than our BB

[next meteor]

Wow.

[bitter orbit]

To me

[bold maple]

you stare at your hands for 10 seconds straight, wow

[pale pilot]

because that's all it does, with no real anything else.

[bold maple]

show us some graphic and fancy psychic move

[solar remnant]

Seems like a solid build but bb gets a little boring

[tawny maple]

?? don't play psyker if you don't wanna stare at your hands, that's their core ability

[minor adder]

I need a finger gun animation when I headpop someone

[bold maple]

terrible take

[mild lotus]

Honestly, psyker misses having something else to cast than bb without a staff

[minor adder]

fatshark when

[tawny maple]

you're wrong, it only takes 2 feats. You can use anything with it

[bitter orbit]

I'd argue with that. Is the grande on a vet the core ability?

[tawny maple]

no, because vet and psyker are different

[terse orbit]

Should've just let us summon a firestorm

[bitter orbit]

Yeah. But that's not a core ability lmao. It's another ability that functions in a certain way. There isn't only one way to play the game

Just like the granade

[mild lotus]

I find the force sword to be underwhelming. The warp 'enchantment' is nice to deal with rager and other big mobs up close but that's really all there is to it.

[tawny maple]

vet doesn't get damage buffs and has limited uses. Psyker is literally meant to bb as often as possible to get buffs

[mild lotus]

when all the other swords are doing great at handling hordes at least

[cobalt granite]

Let’s agree that psyker’s brain burst is more significant for the class than grenades for vets.

[pale pilot]

yeah, hard agree

[terse orbit]

Well that's all you get, it's either force sword or chain sword

[craggy bluff]

Force sword is a boss killer, that 1500 damage

[mild lotus]

chain sword on a psyker sounds do out of place

[echo parrot]

The projectile reflecting feat is nice, but rng

[bitter orbit]

I get the buffs from the perks. There are two perks that do that, I only use bb when I need to snipe accross the map for a sniper or dog

[terse orbit]

Well it's basically our only other option

[bitter orbit]

You literally don't need to bb to get the buffs

[elfin jacinth]

Anyone know if you are able to increase brain burst damage outside of the warp buff?

[mild lotus]

you're playing the 40k equivalent of a mage, so using a chainsaw with it sounds... odd

[tawny maple]

if you're not using bb at all then you're just not utilizing 30% of your kit, so you're doing smth wrong. And no, buffs are basekit and don't need perks to work

[worn jewel]

No other way. Its one of the issues with psyker; BB doesnt scale

[pale pilot]

i mean the chainsword serves me better in tha trole of boss killer because i don't get animation locked into the channel and the revved up blade immediately starts doing damage instead of nothing while waiting for the throw warp in their brain animation

[cobalt granite]

No, it sounds 40k.

[elfin jacinth]

Mhm, just wanted to be sure.

[bitter orbit]

I use it when there are dogs or snipers. It has its utility

[mild lotus]

Anyone can use a chain sword but not anyone is a psyker

[terse orbit]

Well it's not like there isn't more force weapons, it's just that we get nothing but scraps from other classes

[mild lotus]

else why use a force staff?

just use a gun

but most psykers are using a force staff so force weapons are 40k enough I guess

[craggy bluff]

I never use bb playing on heresy plus

[elfin jacinth]

What do you guys think of having the force sword block ranged damage as an inherent trait to the Force sword rather than being a weapon trait?

[cobalt granite]

Most psykers use staves cos no one else can

[bitter orbit]

Also not doing something wrong. Is the zealot doing something wrong and missing 30% of their kit by not spamming granade?

[mild lotus]

That'd be neat

[tawny maple]

I can only suggest you check gameplay of people who regularly play damnation if you don't trust me. You'll see how well they are at threat management and how important bb is even rn, even if it's underwhelming

[terse orbit]

What other perks are on the sword that benefits it

[midnight kiln]

BB kinda sucks ass

[mild lotus]

exorcist

[elfin jacinth]

Why do you think that/

[terse orbit]

The hottest take here

[mild lotus]

peril reduction on ws hits

[pale pilot]

i would love it

[opaque stone]

If BB doesn't oneshot it should at least stun heavily

[mild lotus]

it does

on almost every mob

[midnight kiln]

Man, everyone kill the elite before i can complet an BB

[craggy bluff]

Bb cost almost as much or more than a full surge staff charge, without that chain stun to boot

[cobalt granite]

You have zap staff

[tawny maple]

if zealot of veteran aren't spamming their grenades when they should then yea they're doing something wrong lmao, those grenades are a powerful tool

[terse orbit]

I wish I could reroll blessings

[opaque stone]

Does it knock a crusher on it's ass?

[bitter orbit]

Alright I'll check it out. It just seems like a really fucking lacking play style in terms of fun right now. I'm not denying the usefulness of the build

[mild lotus]

it staggers it

[cobalt granite]

What does?

[bold maple]

in the closed beta, BB instantly stagger any target when you start charging

[mild lotus]

good enough to cast another bb on the crusher

[bold maple]

now you need 70% meter to stagger

[midnight kiln]

BB are only useful on snipers and the big shield one sometime, when vet dont 2 shot them

[bold maple]

and you get another stagger on success cast

[bitter orbit]

"when they need to"

[terse orbit]

Oh wait a second

[cobalt granite]

People complaining are those who run level 2 missions and die there all the time.

[terse orbit]

Your a vet main

[craggy bluff]

Surge don't even need half a charge bar to stagger

[midnight kiln]

Im not, im a psyker main

[elfin jacinth]

I feel like our Force push thingy is a real issue. It feels so weak, just a vent for more brain bursting. I really want it to have a GOOD knock back effect, and be able to knock down a mutie.

[mild lotus]

my psychic ass on lvl 3-4 diff and winning

[mild lotus]

yes, the push back is soooo underwhelming

makes cliffhanger a pain to obtain also

[next meteor]

Doesn’t even hit half the time

[bold maple]

force push should legit deals damage at least

[cobalt granite]

Nope

[midnight kiln]

Please dont

[elfin jacinth]

I have found use in staggering trappers and flamers before they get their attack off, but its just so sleeper.

[mild lotus]

do you see it as a cone?

[terse orbit]

Doesn't even work on ragers on level 3

[mild lotus]

because it's a cylinder, not a cone

[next meteor]

Well, right

[mild lotus]

force sword's special does

[next meteor]

Wrong reply

[midnight kiln]

If force push deal dmg, that solo a boss penance will be much more worst

[next meteor]

But it just doesn’t work occasionally for me

[solemn barn]

yo do people in this discord help out with penances or is it taboo to ask

[mild lotus]

it even one shots them if heavy attacked in the head

[terse orbit]

That's why you have to run it

[bold maple]

your concern is a... shitty penance

[terse orbit]

Or the chain sword

[finite goblet]

Grenades are limited, BB is not.

[bold maple]

the absolute state of this game

fatshark fix penance pls

[midnight kiln]

Its the last one i need 🥲

[cobalt granite]

If u want damage from push - pick soulblaze feat.

[elfin jacinth]

Force Swords Push NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE. I dont care about it having a cost just let me push MULTIPLE people over

[midnight kiln]

I got it twice but game never rewarded me

[elfin jacinth]

instead of feeling like i am breathing hot air on them

[ornate hamlet]

Who has a build for 5?

[bronze sierra]

imma be real the force sword push is just fun to bully mobs

[cobalt granite]

It is one of the best ultimates in the game. Get gud.

[terse orbit]

Oh boy better put a penance that has you knock off 20 enemies within 2 seconds, makes 90% of all maps have zero cliff interaction

[mild lotus]

I think the multiple nerfs really made psykers underwhelming in almost every aspect they have to them

save maybe for staves

[opaque stone]

Lmao

[elfin jacinth]

"Force swords push" ITS ONE OF THE BEST ULTIMATES... my brother you need to read

[mild lotus]

but even then, it doesn't make the class that good and standing out in term of power imo

[cobalt granite]

You must be a sad psyker

[midnight kiln]

That one is not even among the bad ones

[terse orbit]

It isn't but it's something you have to actually grind for

[cobalt granite]

The chat flies so fast it is hard to reply to the right thing.

[mild lotus]

idk I played open beta and psyker rocked

[cobalt granite]

Still does

[midnight kiln]

I hate that every classes have easy or cheesable penance while psyker is just pure cancer

[mild lotus]

no, not nearly as much nor as effective

[elfin jacinth]

TRUE

[midnight kiln]

I want to be rewarded for my one on one boss

[mild lotus]

open beta felt like every class was good at its thing, enough to justify picking them in diff 5

[cobalt granite]

Oh no, you need some effort for cool stuff. Who would’ve thought.

[finite goblet]

if only our scream could throw the beast off a cliff after 1 BB and the fall damage not count as damage done to it lol

[bold maple]

how do you tell someone is a gatekeeping cunt? this guy right here ^

[mild lotus]

now, I struggle to see why you'd bother with a psyker instead of another zealot or vet

[midnight kiln]

"Effort" 1v1 a boss its cancer, beside, i did it twiiiiice

[cobalt granite]

Good, less psykers - more value to us, true ones.

[midnight kiln]

I got a record and shit

[terse orbit]

Game crashes on end wave, it doesn't count you soloing the boss earlier

[midnight kiln]

But fatshark dont want to give me my shits

[cobalt granite]

I did it once and got it in like 11 minutes.

[idle osprey]

Lmao channel is dead

[terse orbit]

Because funny magic brain powers

[midnight kiln]

Man wtf, mine is bugged

[cobalt granite]

Can’t be. We were in team of 4 psykers and all got it.

[fickle fiber]

What blessing do you gents like for a flame staff?

[mild lotus]

Asking players to have full premades in order to secure one(1) penance while playing in a manner that borders stupidity, is cancer

[midnight kiln]

Only one get it per boss

[cobalt granite]

Depends on what you’re using it for

[cobalt granite]

I know. We did it in 4 runs. Each was a success.

[midnight kiln]

Wtf

[fickle fiber]

Is max CC an option with flame?

[proven sun]

What staff does everyone like to use? Void has been my favorite so far; I want to like Surge but feel like I'm using it wrong. Seems underwhelming.