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Watch right arm’s gauntlet
Congratulations I just ruined one of the best looking armors in the game for u
This is from Darktide?
Yes
mm
Only one of those seems cool
The way it's written doesn't look like Darktide tbh
if this is real then fatshark is doing the same thing as saber where they just make your ults auto aim stuff lmao
prolly the laziest way to do a tech focused class
I differ to your expertise here
Autoaim is boring in every single setting except one
it can be fun
just let me have some agency
This is the only autoaim I accept
Honestly we probably aren't too far off a smart gun irl
I got it from a greyname in theory chat
the smart gun in alien romolus was something lmao
Put a MG3 in an exoskeleton and train an ai targeting system
That person was in the server for like 2 months and it was the only message
either an amazing troll or bro is hackerman
2 testers both didnt acknowledge or mention the leak so make of that what you will
When both were actively talking
yamato out here wanting people to break NDA 💀
i mean they cant acknowledge it either way
they're supposed to not respond even if it's fake
no lol
Well see the real deal at skulls anyway
I think they should respond to everything with "yeah this is real"
REAL
mechanicus (the game) had so many cool abilities and stuff that feels unique to le techie men
i hope its not just autoaim nonsense
Tbh I have confidence that whatever the new class does at least 2/3rds of it will be fun
And it'll probably be broken op
For all fatshark's faults they very very rarely fuck up making the gameplay itself fun.
Electro priest would be hilarious ngl
Ex trying to throw everyone off
Beware of playtester disinformation
PLEASEEEE BREAK NDAAAAAAAA GET KICKED OUT OF THE PROGRAMS YESSSSSS 😈

Aughh
Tracking bullets no we’re quite far
Enhanced visual aim assist yes that’s already achievable through some top level optical sights
I mean the aliens Smartgun fwiw
Which is just a MG 42 in an exoskeleton with assisted aim
We have tracking bullets btw
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They're just big and expensive
I need to share information with you
There was once a pamphlet
Like decades ago
Maybe mid 50s
For making hot Dr.pepper
My bet is still just a basic tech adepts
Since electro priest and ruststalker are too restrictive
It's pretty ok
what if its grendel
Vanguard or tech adept is the safest most freeing options
Anyways skulls is just around the corner
Tech adept that can flow into techpriest skitarii or electro priest
You’ve drank hot Dr.pep
So just wait
Ew dude
Because FS has to play around GWs rules
We know that cryptic is its own race in the files
The #CellGames never truly ended.
Cast
Takahata101 - Cell
Pamela Adlon - Bobby Hill
dr pepper is based off a hot drink anyways
Wait wut
I dunno what I was going to expect
But it wasn’t this
i love normal dr pepper
@ivory marlin cheese boy get in here
We’re talking about Dr.pep
Also crème soda is the only acceptable flavor
#shorts
Original video : https://youtu.be/XMo3lwo-Jmc
i never really liked cream soda but im not gona knock another for likin it
The hell was that
I'm trying to figure out where I read that but I'm not sure, it's probably internet bullshit hearsay
the idea was that the flavors included are pretty similar to what you'd put in a hot cider for the holidays but with a few extra random similar things
i love darktide

aashut the FUCK UIP VAMP
SHUT UP
SHUT UP
STOP LOOKING IN EVERY CHANNEL I TYPE 'I LOVE DARKTIDE' IN
THE EXACT SECOND I DO IT
THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT
Hai vamp and ancient :D
what do you love most about darktide
hi yamato
violence
we need to kill higui!!!
Alpharius
walmart employment
Ted wasnt much of a suicide bomber though but he probably could convince a heretic
for hd2?
ye
its back up for now via 1 of my friends
yam is with him rn
Which chaos god would Ted even belong to
probably 12-2 depending on when I get out of bed and feel alive
when is that relative to rn
gud
I was 50/50 on him or Khorne
nah i dont know if khorne would respect the unabomber
Mega Satan
they realized the only way to save their company from 3 flops in a row is to make yakuza 5 again and honestly theyre right I dont blame them
he wouldnt
Yeah, you .
Im up to 7420 credits
20-22 hours about yeah, cause ill probably sleep at like 3 or 4 am and wake up 12 or 1
thats ok
Wasn’t the whole pipe bomb thing due to a fit of rage
you know what
He was like
he was Rage Against the Machine
star wars outlaws!!!
He also wrote extremely creepy stuff in his diary about his teacher and mom i believe
Fallen order lol

i acc tried outlaws
you couldn't even kill the idea of me
for a couplke hours
i'll sell you to ubisoft directly. you will be the sole source of power for their entire ai generated network
Khorne has taken over ancient
i bought an acc with it for a dollar
outlaws was so fucking bad
its ass
i beat that game and it was so bad
Exploring the star destroyer optional area was my fav area in fallen order
Hopefully jedi 3 at summer games fest
You know one of the more odd pieces of weird people internet media
Is the Bjorn stalker guy
it could've been good if it was made before ubisoft was pure slop
Im glad that dude shot himself
He was an actual danger to people around him
I honestly never thought he went outside
He seems like a shit yourself on the couch kinda guy
he shat his brains out
Ubisoft just needs to make another splinter cell
Trust
He sent a bomb to bjork which was intercepted by her agent (thankfully didnt explode)
Wild commentary
During which he commited suicide on video
the only ubisoft project I will maintain a small level of hope for is black flag resynced
I remember
no you wont yog
I really don’t get his whole end game there
Its a hail mary for ubisoft
shut up bro before I make you watch all the new "UFO" footage over and over again
who knows what else they're doin
the combat is the most iffy part
they already killed one of the cooler things you could do in black flag's combat ...
I like the pistol swords
TELL ME LIES, TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES
This makes the Hidden Blade Takedown a critical part of moment-to-moment combat, which was not the case in the original. ```
you mean the only thing that was interesting
I also really liked brawling in 3 or 4 but cant remember if I liked it in both or if they butchered it
fist fighting
Yeah
didn't really do anything differently till unity
the combat looks less cool to watch but like it might be more engaging to play mechanically
i dont like the new ac games combat
i think it has something to do with the animation quality and overall lack of visual impact
Wasn’t this kinda heavy in syndicate aswell
I rather it be engaging to play than to watch
like it just doesnt feel good lol
ive also thought of trying odyssey i think it was
Give edward a jack sparrow outfit
The brother being the big ape that just beat the shit outta people
it does beg the question of like
hi
idk that one felt like dogshit when I tried it after it was free for gold
I barely barely played it
how are they gonna handle the prison mission where you're literally unarmed except for the hidden blades
I forgot how far I got into syndicate
ive only played like 3 or 4 assassins creed games
But I don’t remember finishing it
Hidden blade might be for stealth attacks
The Hidden Blade is not a selectable weapon, but a fatal, contextual (and BLOODY!) takedown that is available when you break the defense of your opponent!
yes its for stealth attacks
and contextual fatal blows
Diddy rag
3, 4, brotherhood revelations, are the only 3 ive actually played through
Then the prison section will probs be reworked
no probably not like that
Unity coop was pure jank but was the most fun I’ve ever had in a AC game
I played a little syndicate and thought it seemed ass, I bought Valhalla one time but the audio is so terrible
they'll do it like ac shadows
h
Put on rap music anytime a minority shows up?
LMAO
the audio for Valhalla is so garbage I couldn't play it like at all
You fucking remember that right
I was like holy tone deaf
I PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME DUDE
What cia agent did you piss off for that to happen
i just be playing shit
the best part of shadows is the stealth and parkour so I'm glad we're at least getting that now in new games
and i didnt pay for it so its whatever
instead of it just being abandoned
I havent heard any Valhalla songs but pretty sure jesper kyd make the soundtrack
I won’t hold yall
it was kyd and two others
Yotei looks like a decent game
einar selvik
yeah maybe if yotei was on pc i'd give a FUCK
just like i didnt give a fuck about tsushima until they PUT IT ON PC
I was gonna say wait
But I coulda swore Sony zipped their pants up
On sharing their exclusives
i'll beat them to death too
Buy the console ancient
They did
Suppose your corporate overlords
pissed about this and also the wolverine game
Lose access to your game license if you don’t connect to the internet every 30 days

You will own nothing and be happy
not even sure what hopes I have for the wolverine game (none now that I wont play it)
but the old game based on that one shit movie with no mouth deadpool was pretty good
Star war
Oh btw
you could get wolverine blown up down to a skeleton and he'd regenerate it
Someone is making a spin off of that canceled last of us multiplayer game
To a drop of blood
whomst
Let me see if I can find the tweet
extraction shooter #3,000,000,000 i hope
i love extraction shooter number seventy five point two
I meant in the old game but yeah, I think he had boosted powers in that comic from something though
honestly there's only a couple games im really excited for and yet they have no release dates
because their creators hate me specifically
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They cancelled The Last of Us Factions 2.
So we're building it our version. We're indie & entirely self funded.
4v4. Limited ammo. Brutal executions.
This is Terminal War. Unofficial gameplay teaser.
Here it is
We have
WE'VE PLAYED IT
HELL
Pvkk delayed till 2027
is ILL believed to be real now
Also jedi 3 hasnt even been revealed yet
oh and dust front
ILL is going to release under mundfish
nope but we know it's being worked on and thats all that matters
True dat
what games has mundfish done
Dead ass I though ill got relegated to trailer preview hell
atomic heart yeah
ah I thought i recognized the name
They made VR game aswell
Mundfish
I remember seeing the transformation gore footage for it like 11 years ago or something it feels like
Atomic Heart
Which has the best boss theme in any game ever
Beads theme
The latest dlc released in april
oh i also want exekiller
This sounds like some ultrakill clone
its too bad john carpenter's toxic commando has such little content yet costs $40
No.
Wait
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Shut up I’m thinking
get far far west instad.........
im not buying any games

its pretty buried on YouTube now and I doubt the game is gonna have those style of transformations
i bought a game once
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buy me video games
i was going to end this sentencewith something vile and now im not gonna do that
How do I do the instant sprint attack tech on Relic Blade? Can't figure it out
cant say that on my christian minecraft server
"I want the resonant release date"
i can say it but i wont
There seems to be a game in your gore
that comes out thsi year shut up yamato its coming
the blood swallowing is very immersive it puts me in their shoes
thank you user durandal94 on the forums whoever you are for liking my very cool and awesome forum post reply
thanks randal
i love darktide
if you are V25 what happened to V1
shut the fuck up ainz!! get that reaction out of here Now
he fucking died
how did he do that
death
Ancient going through the fucking exo resetting program from destiny
what is that?
sorry i dont play bad games with poor corporate practices
that's a lie, i played an ubisoft game once
its a free game
i wish marathon wasnt an extraction shooter and wasnt a shameless cash grab where they're like
'we're running out of ideas'
I know you’ve played call of duty once in your life
Don’t lie to me
'lets look back at our old IP and take absolutely no lessons from it'
darktide discord
this isnt a bad game
hit or miss really
i guess they never miss huh
I miss WW2 zombies I wish the story wasn't so ass
I wouldnt say poor corporate practices from fatshark ngl
I wanted to play more destiny 2 at a few points but the game was always a deeper descent into dogshit every time so I never even reinstalled
microtransactions are k9inda up tehre but idm that much
The game is at its worst now
genuinely still has the best gunplay out of any FPS which makes the feeling so much worse
have you tried Witchfire as a substitute fix
it's not the same
Bungie's value compared to their aquisition has gone down by almost 800 million
i dont agree with this sentence as someone who plays many fps games
I should give marathon a try since I own it and it probably will not last
but its not bad
Theyre now worth 2.8 billion compared to 3.6 at the aquisition
idk man I can't name another game that comes close to it
it did feel very reminiscent to me, the whole arsenal feels like exotic weapons
and the headshotting/hit boxes felt similar
someone tell me if this is bait
thats bait
was this written by ai
yeah
Apex legends is generally regarded as one of the best gps games out there when it comes to movement and fps mechanics
Lots of ai posts on the forums
But no one here is going to openly admit that because that’s a hard pill to swallow
yeah i mean as a descendant of titanfall 2
it isnt bait you should counterargument and get heated/angry so you can make better points
the parry spam is really good on dclaw tho but dclaw being overpowered a reach beyond reaches
Trepang2 is the best fps
weight
garry newman
it's fitting
ok
fucking kill them. kill them dead
I wouldn't take most gaming opinions seriously since most people just play gun and ball
pisses me off
cement block
We’re forgetting there’s a lot of people in this game’s community who’s sole interaction is making dummy accounts to rage bait and screenshot the reactions
Yes
I noticed that
People are this level of unemployed
I have very good taste in games, super very good even
speaking of
you should've seen the guy who compared killing SEAF in HD2 to shooting another commenters dog
what
thats really funny
killing seaf is obviously worse
lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
look at this dude
what sub was that in
the main one
lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I highly doubt that
SEAF
Does this count as unsafe levels of parasocial
?
yes
Planetary defense force in helldivers 2
many people are telling me I might even have the best taste in games, I dont know about that but these are great guys and theyre saying this
nah seaf are like actual army
Oh
there are militia but they're seperate
Its Super Earth Armed Forces
super earth armed forces
Ngl helldivers are fucking bums
wow and the guy put shooting a real dog on the same level
basically tho the HD2 community is fucking INSANE
Its the teenagers that aren't given control of a nuclear capable destroyer
The EDF straight up kills god
On like 6 seperate occasions
i love reddit
nah this is community problem
Ranger doesn't even have call ins mf just has a gun
man you tell me that to my face irl, I knock you down in 5s
the discord fucking raged over the charity thing years ago
the HD2 community is just cooked
@tepid sorrel cancel all anticipations for the games you want this year
Fucking love this meme so much man
Killer bean game should be all you want
Killer Bean releasing some Steam!
June 8, 2026
Early Access on Steam
#pcgaming #videogames #indiegames #screenshotsaturday #killerbean
did you see ribaorld thragg
helldivers 2 is the worst thing to happen to coop gaming in recent memory
KLiller Bean
This shit is still fuckin goin??
entities from the anomaly dlc
I fuck with it
I dead ass tho
Was just thinking about how come someone hasn’t made one of these about regular pawns
Like less than 2 mins ago
Theres gonna be another panel memed to hell in the future once people see it
which one is it
my favorite for these ones is the pvz one
Spoilerzzzzzz
theyre both AI by the same guy
Oh nah not as much as thragg holding the skull
oh this guys literal entire account is AI generated shit
why can we not report accounts on the forum
is this the same one where he ||injures himself to the same extent as thragg||
Yes
id eat a taco with crazy dave
he probably has some crazy shit we havent even seen in the game
My mans meth’d a taco
instead of passing a blunt or something he'd just bring in a potted weed plant that hotboxes the entire fucking room like a fog machine
That would honestly be kinda cool
Beads theme is literally the best boss ost in all gaming history
This is definitely not biased
Is this entire show just aliens trying to fuck mark

only like 1 alien and she does more than try
Word
Just a viltrumite thing
Just look at Oliver 
@visual stream @lunar fable @ivory marlin
you should watch the show honestly
Oliver when he sees the Specifically Trained to Kill Oliver guy:
oliver going solo on the strongest creature in the universe
I mean one day
If my roommates get into it
I’ll watch it with dem
See if this was a blue checkmark on Twitter
It’d make sense right
Cause you get paid for engagement
But dude doing this for the love of the mental illness
@sullen forge
Didn't you see the new game
Call of Duty: Green Ops
@wheat matrix
Man if I was perhaps a large blue whale I could get behind putting these guys in my mouth and maybe rolling them around on my tongue and such
vore of my comfort pokemon
yep, seems correct to me
Does it make it better that it's a real mechanic in-game
chud
Mfw embed breaks
@median steeple
lmao
Fixed it
NO self improvement allowed only blame
I say its cause of the massive ego spike
they get for getting into Oracle
Bros get into Oracle I and treat Archon VI (They were literally in it last match) like lesser subhumans that should be erased
Molly ghost power
real
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looks cools
lol
btw u can get experimental branch for FFW rn
it has next week's patch in it
what is it
what does it have
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which one should i pick
health +15%
Happy
yea
I got 23 levels on minigun in 1 game of VH on experimental
lazy buff still no reason to use it as you can just get equip recharge
wcyd
yea it's just not good
i got levels retroactivelyt lol
all my weps are lvl 100
yea
all the weapons I levelled are 100
but I didn't level everything
this is good
Boy got the most hotdog water gameplay I bet

Welp I learned something in Guntouchables... just because you can take 2 launcher guns doesn't mean you should. My character got +200% max ammo when I had 2 of the same type of weapon... and only having them to spam for stuff kinda sucks >.>'
I'm definitely probably not going to take 2 launcher weapons again in Guntouchables if I can help it, that was really annoying
@sterile stone
yea it's mega op
yea I just happen to mog everything with a few button presses cuz spells op
guide you wanna play havoc
22
rn?
:3
no I actually don't hate myself
based
People from atoma are canonically built different
Random darktide vet being a fucking beast with shovel indicates that this may or may not be either you or Cole
I do love my shovel 
could be pre darktide
Honestly could be after and dude just somehow managed to get out to dodge.
Or atoman conscripts get reasigned somewhere else in the galaxy
@sterile basalt triple jump is pog
You can find his shovel in a mountain of corpses btw
That makes no sense
It’s been stated gathering warband is hemorrhaging bodies
So them casting off a soldier seems unbelievable at best
Like if he faked his death and fucked off afterwards
I’d believe that
Or he was given as a personal favor, Idk
40K has a lot of ways to make pretty much literally anything you want happen
There are a whole lot of ways one guy can slip through the cracks
Ah, but it says he's a quiet sort, which LC definitely is not
Yammering on about fucking anything LMAO
Could be cutthroat
saying that knowing how easy it is to get out of bounds on dt maps
or its none of them and its just a little nod
I figured it was that more than anything
Speaking of
Last night i did direct dps comparisons
With no newcanny, using sc deci on the same kinda build I use for db shovel, you can get 1k to 1.2k dps against a crusher with proper attacks
For comparison
Thats about the same as taxe light spam
And its only half of ds4 with shred newcanny with a cara perk (2k dps)
You can get up to 1.8k if you use voc though for a longer stagger duration on shovel
Btw this is with taxe and shovel not having a cara perk
Also the difference between just light spam and just heavy spam isnt that much of a difference, about 700 to 900 dps depending on crits
But thats not using skullcrusher or take a swing
But yeah those shovel changes
Make it pretty okay into armor without uncanny and now you can run other blessing to juice it for other situations too
It definitely helps against armor make no mistake
But like
Deci, take a swing, and skullcrusher are literally still on the weapon
Now we wait for the playtesters to tell fat shark to buff the falchion
As much as I'm shitting on them for the purgatus changes, at least they're giving shovel some love
When is dclaw next
I implore that FS just doesn't listen to Reginald about the power falchion
Already got buffed
So
That's how Fatshark wants it to be
3% extra dps
Nothing we can do about it
Don't worry
Fatshark knows what they are doing
So trust Fatshark
People just need to realize that its way more impactful than the numbers suggest
what's his idea about it
Ive seen so much doomposting for them
That it's actually good lol
yea so he's wrong
if shovel was actually good at stagger then skullcrusher would be rly nice
Issue is that by the numbers stated on the notes
It seems small
But people tend not to realize how significant a change in ADM actually is
some changes are decent
but overall small
but it's also a lot of small changes at the same time
for I think every shovel atk profile?
Yes.
I don't think it'll go much higher than mid still
And for some of those, it's outright just actually allowing shovel to do damage without uncanny at all
I don't think its gonna take top meta spot obviously
why must my flesh be weak, ive had motion sickness for like 5 hours now come on man
H sweep and H smiter see pretty reasonable dmg increase
But its at least not going to be a weapon that rides or dies on a single blessing anymore.
Shovel with deci can actually cause crushers to stagger on heavies
Shovel was already pretty decent imo but it does make me happy that they very uncharacteristically attempted to look out for an underdog when making a wide-reaching change
But the stab is where most if that comes from for the PA
It can one shot them now
yea but it's not a particularly long stagger to get value out of for skullcrusher
and it also doesn't hit rager stagger well
u'd need max decimator to weakspot stagger rager
It is
It significantly reduces crusher kill times
And maulers can be chain staggered
@heady rapids https://www.instagram.com/p/DYISnQrj5qN
cant see
so how fast is it post patch
3k?
2.5k?
real
hes not a scarab tho
I know
hes a horn beetleor whatever it is
With sc deci depending on how hard you lean into it with talents, it goes from 1k to 2k
For comparison, taxe is 1.2k and ds4 with crits newcanny and +cara is 2.2k
Hercules beetle
I still don't understand what made them drop another billion to Israel psykers
If you dont stagger, the damage tanks
And not even to something that could have used it
I mean with full talent spec what is it like
the usual dmg talents every good vet build takes
You know I feel like this could be better explained and settled if you two ran a auric duo
no I'm just asking him for basic info rn
Seeing it in practice is better than talking about it
I mean they literally can't rn
I think there's someone on the dev team who gets very loud and defensive when anyone mentions nerfing psyker, or even shutting down their ideas for buffing it
It's not in base game yet.
no it's just cuz their code can't run if they don't buff psyker every once in a while
With full talent spec like onslaught, rending, exploit
Not including more conditionals like skirmish or agile because the difference would be the same cuz thats just flat damage
ok so around 2.5k with actual dmg talents active I'm assuming
Next patch EK LMB does 15% more damage and EK RMB costs 15% more Peril
Balance
that's base without crits I'm also assuming?
and with crit maybe around 3k?
that's not awful but also not like super impressive
roughly relic blade tier carapace dps
This is also without a cara perk, reciprocity crit chance, etc
With onslaught and rending ive hit a 2500 damage pa crit
but it still can't stagger rager with H sweep at base right
I don't get why onslaught personally
crazy ass
machinegun is crazy yea
machinegun/speedster + overblast shotgun is ridiculous
Does that one cap? I've been running it on minigun and by the end of a mission it is goofy fast
machinegun absolutely blows it out of the water
i dont think so
Because i said min max
The adms are low so even a few hits from it significantly raise the hit damage
I dont think its worth it considering the decrease in armor spawns though, but it is something you can do because onslaught is right there
Its good enough at armor as a generalist weapon to be fine without it
I was specifically seeing what you could do without uncanny
speedster's better dmg per shot feels nicer in terms of ammo
ammo is nothing
sure
but it's still not able to stagger rager groups and is pretty lacking in monster dps overall
it's... so peak....
I run machinegun with the unique and a 50% reload on empty
yea u should
I was speaking more generally
speedster is only good early match tho and drops off when you get to the boss
unless it's saloon
saloon fucking sucks
some guns I prefer speedster over machinegun
dog ass boss
lever for example benefits from speedster more
is it out?
I also like it more for minigun cuz ammo is actually relevant there and machinegun's firerate makes recoil a bit crazy
I mean lever could get a breakpoint here and there but you can also still run mg and go for dps
Path im gonna be real
You said vet is basically just power sword at this point so I dont think your comparisons are very fair
and I think power sword is too good
but shotgun is better doe that Caye unique
but even if I take power sword out of the picture the next best thing still can do rager mixed horde better
what is the next best thing
also jokers being client side now is huge
You said 2.5-3k cara dps is not bad but not impressive
That is a sub 3 second kill time for the highest health elite in the game with the toughest armor
rashad
On a weapon
Not meant to excel at armor
so what's it supposed to excel at
it doesn't do mixed horde that well
it doesn't do boss that well
Its supposed to do everything decently, but nothing poorly
it doesn't have exceptional dodge and mobility
It is a jack of all trades master of none
That is what it excels at
It literally has similar damage to taxe most areas
no the finesse is dogshit for all but 1 attack
But taxe relies on crits more but shovel doesnt
And the mobility is a bit lower but the stamina profile is way better
There are differences between the weapons
yea it sounds like it's overall not as good as tac axe but has cleave
You also have to take one of the most busted blessings on taxe or it just falls behind
Limiting you to one blessing choice
Shovel as of this coming patch at least has options
idk it sounds like the same uncanny decimator to me
are you guys arguing over whether shovel is good?
with a splash of uncanny skullcrusher maybe if the stagger buff turn out to be anything relevant
Lets not pretend 70% of blessings and perks aren't worthless
Shhhhh
This is peak entertainment
Let them go at it
no I'm saying the patch's shovel changes don't seem to push it above being mid
It’s like watching gophers attack each other
i always thought it was good tho
Imagine I hit this
not op but not at the same level as og shmaul
I can't think of a single area it's particularly good at that
it's decent carapace dps
it's not good at mixed horde cuz no rager group stagger
it's not good at monster dps
it's not exceptionally mobile with dodges
so just really mid across the board
and idk if "a better push/block stamina profile" is enough of a selling point really
it's almost like, it's a weapon designed not to be an outlier but simply be reliable at everything. 
because this is a weapon for the worst / 2nd worst stamina management class in the game
For shovel I think it is a worthwhile upside
is it actually reliable at everything tho
that's a rather reductionist take
I would call shovel a standard for balance
As someone who mains it on vet?
Yeah honestly.
Where’s all the dclaw veterans
It's done me just fine anywhere from regular to high havoc.
esp if your comparison point is literal op weapons like rashad and ps
If anything, I'm glad this update is making it that you can actually do other things with it.
tac axe is already teetering on s tier too
Crying themselves to sleep or already roped
and I think they need changes too
Also, tac axe and rashad are honestly kinda carried on BM too
yes but all the same you're using them as comparison points
Dclaw is best on psyker, where it still only serves as a meme shitpost weapon at best with KD lmfao
So I genuinely cannot see this being a fair comparison if I'll be real
my comparison point is somewhere in the middle which no current melee weapon occupies
it doesn't matter if you say "yeah they're op" when you then go on to say "but see this weapon isn't as good at thing like op weapon"
I think it's a solid t1 but not much more than that
This is why I stick to Arby
I love me bludgeon and board
I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't tihnk a weapon needs to be an outlier to be reliable.
But that's just me.
so it has no specialties and has zero interesting things going on?
You gits like old shite?
that's kind of cooked i won't lie
my list's t0s are all in the "idk how they let this slide" category so idk
like I'm almost convinced you guys let rashad be this bonkers op on hive scum because every playtester think themselves above it so nobody actually tested it
and then it made it to live branch
I think
It's kinda different
When we're talking about HIVE SCUM
you know
The class that can make a fucking toothbrush overpowered if it was in the game
just like idk how yall could possibly let a 3.5% avg dmg buff to falchion slide
i don't think any of the "playtesters that think themselves above it" were ok with hive scum in general but it's great to know you're letting us know what the playtesters thought and did
Combine tested it a lot
Rashad is stupid but other things have hard powercrept it so its not been a focus by comparison
Shivs could be sharpened toothbrushes
I really dont like that shit either. Why make a weapon decent when the abilities are broken as shit, scriers gaze breaks everything so the other classes with access get the shaft.
The bigger problem was that scum just
Is scum
Make le ability broken af, why would we buff it when its broken af on scum and psyker
The other classes dont need to use that
Fuck that
This is just a wider scale version of PBB preventing ogryn guns from bring tuned upward
cool so now that we're on the same page I still think shovel could use more
at least H sweep and H smiter more stagger
Correct, its an issue with lots of the abilities
i think the shovel is fine as is
maybe slight number bumps but no need for "NOW THE SHOVEL IS MEGA IMPACT KING!!!"
I don't need it to be mega impact king
I remember when rashad got treated how DS is treated these days, it's crazy how much the powercreep has gone on, even after P13
I just want it to go above rager light stagger threshold on H sweep with weakspot hit
the worst part is that ds was always that strong
I wouldn't mind a stagger buff. And I do have to feel it for myself to know that the update is gonna be impactful, even if Cole's said it is.
But at least for me, I never really found issue with shovel other than it pretty much riding or dying on Uncanny
I don't think it should have to rely on either a dedicated stagger blessing or a finicky strength bonus blessing to get a basic stagger breakpoint that makes a world of difference in mixed horde
But it's ok because psyker is glass cannon with no melee talents :^)
especially not when the ADM buffs are fairly minimal overall
this goes against what you were saying earlier tho that you want it to excel at something
I also highkey think that Decimator is really easy to upkeep on shovel
yea, this is that
this is that mixed horde performance I want out of it
that's not mixed horde that just fighting ragers performance
the meta is to watch something like invincible yourself and then watch it again with a friend or something to live vicariously through their first viewing
yea rager are a pretty big threat in mixed horde
if your entire argument rests on ragers for mixed horde then you don't care about the rest of the horde you just care about ragers
because the alternative is mauler and it already can stagger mauler
Are you sure?
ok then what other mixed horde stagger breakpoint is it supposed to get that's not too op
Forest hike pictures
don't say that, you're gonna summon the "it was balanced on psyker" mfs
I tried this with Into The Badlands and ended up leaving the room
why does it need more elite stagger bps?
this?
no idea what that is but it makes me think of The Office styled mad max sitcom
it can stagger crushers too already with the special
Imagine Kenshi but in fallout 4’s setting
like i'm genuinely trying to understand where you're coming from but you're saying one thing and then trying to advocate for a different thing to me
is that supposed to make it incredibly good at mixed horde?
maybe my reading comprehension is not high enough
It's crazy how people gaslit themselves into believing dueling sword was balanced back then
good enough
was it bad or something? (lands)
I just forgot about it
But they mostly use melee weapons
And have vehicles
my metric is largely, melee pressure trial, melee weapon only, no health dmg taken, and in my experience ragers play a bigger part towards that than crushers or maulers
And it’s set in a weird time period