#zealot-class

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sterile stone
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Mini hermano tired himself out

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Got a lil exercise in while he got to hang out with other mini doggos

hearty nebula
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Yeah but

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they did

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oh wait nvm

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Idk why I thought they did maybe I'm thinking of smth else

ivory marlin
sterile stone
ivory marlin
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Awe

ripe quest
sterile stone
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He’s literally an ankle biter

ivory marlin
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Concrete also goes for the ankles

void bison
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i'm an expert at marathon i've played it so much

ripe quest
ivory marlin
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I got an outpost key with your name on it

ivory marlin
ripe quest
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sure anytime lol

ivory marlin
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Swag ok

olive raven
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Oh yea you have a dog

sterile stone
sterile stone
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What happened

shadow spruce
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schleep

ivory marlin
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Someone shat in their bed

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Left 5$

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“Sorry for the mess”

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Im outside taking a breath while my manager cleans it

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It was RANK

misty nova
shadow spruce
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couldnt turn it off in the photo mode

void bison
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sitting next to a piss spot

misty nova
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Yeah that's what I'm pointing out

shadow spruce
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is that what those are

misty nova
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💀

carmine lance
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Hello chatters

ivory marlin
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Howdy moffia

carmine lance
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Hello!

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How are you doing

ivory marlin
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Someone shat in their room

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Currently getting some fresh air so i don’t vomit

misty nova
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Sleep spots

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Are

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Cairns

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Yeah?

shadow spruce
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yeah

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there was a cairn right next to it

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which is where i was napping both for a photo op and to pass time

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honestly biggest complaint so far is just road building

sterile stone
ivory marlin
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I couldn’t go near it

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Very weak stomach with smells

solar gorge
void bison
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Darktide

frosty herald
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imminent beta release

solar gorge
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rumour on the block has it that all the polished models for every old characters are finished

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just a mattr of weeks imo

frosty herald
ivory marlin
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No clue

void bison
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not the kind that shit in the woods

carmine lance
ivory marlin
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Yeah :/

signal spoke
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I am confused it was a community made account before?

solar gorge
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it was owned by some dipshit iirc

heady rapids
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i need to register @leglock rq

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before valve does...

elfin cedar
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Question, how does the finesse bonus from duelist work exactly?

frosty herald
elfin cedar
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Afaik it's a 1.5 multiplier to your crit and weakspot damage bonuses, so if you have a weapon with a 100% damage bonus (2x) you'd get 50% more for a total of 150%(2.5x)?

olive raven
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I’m like two seconds from losing my shit st work

ivory marlin
misty nova
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You do not know the can of worms

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You're opening

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By asking how finesse works

elfin cedar
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Wait so it's flat in a sense?

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Duelist proportionally benefits weapons with lower modifiers than those with strong modifiers

stark sequoia
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What’re the best blessing for relic blade

elfin cedar
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And benefits crit weakspots "less" since it only applies once

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Interesting

elfin cedar
elfin cedar
stark sequoia
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I’ve been using heating and overload

elfin cedar
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Rampage is the strongest blessing on the weapon though

ivory marlin
frosty herald
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It would be hilarious if they make power axe a finesse weapon

ivory marlin
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Wait i thought you were yam

misty nova
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🫡

ivory marlin
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Mb higui

misty nova
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Lmao

stark sequoia
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Ok so trying to cool it down super fast isnt the best ideas

misty nova
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I mean

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Overload is actually niche

elfin cedar
misty nova
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Heatsink is pretty meh

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But ideally you don't want it to overheat

elfin cedar
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Best way to cool it down is to take out your holy relic and yell at heretics

ivory marlin
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Funny

stark sequoia
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Fair enough

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Thanks

elfin cedar
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Very interesting about duelist though, I really thought it was far more beneficial on finesse weapons but it's kind of the other way around

hearty nebula
solar gorge
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could be decent

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hard to take seriously nowadays ik but this is from the original guy i think

signal spoke
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I was just about to send it

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It does look interesting which is insane coming how barebones backrooms has become

olive raven
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Which is arguably worse

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Cause you’d assume engineers are smart

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But no they act like inbred apes 99% of the time who have had four ice picks lodged in their last remaining bits of pre frontal cortex

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They act like nurgle ate their eyes out and they spew rotten maggot levels of misinfo

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Like my GAWD

ivory marlin
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Ah

violet hornet
ivory marlin
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Rest in piss sora

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Rot in hell

olive raven
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He isn’t even using AI

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he’s just this dumb sometimes

sterile basalt
elfin cedar
hearty nebula
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gub

sterile basalt
elfin cedar
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Huh

sterile basalt
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I wrote that guide lol

hearty nebula
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lol

elfin cedar
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Okay but

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The formula shows finesse as additive to the crit/weakspot modifier

sterile basalt
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Example
Ur attack has 100 damage base, 2 finesse mod
On crit weakspot it would do 100x(1+2) =300 damage

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If u add 50% from duellist

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That would be 100x(1+2x(1+0.5)) =400

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In other words

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dCW (which in this case is 300-100 =200

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Increases by 50%, which is 100

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So in this specifically case 50% finesse is 33% damage increase over default

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Whereas on a lower finesse value the increase is comparatively lower in %

elfin cedar
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So it's exactly like crit damage and weakspot damage

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Where they act on the weapon's innate multiplier

sterile basalt
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Yes? They’re calculated the same way

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They’re even shown in the formula

elfin cedar
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I misunderstood the formula then

sterile basalt
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I will probably revamp the intro sections to look more like game code

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But that’s not priority atm

hearty nebula
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priority is melee...

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right...?

sterile basalt
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I only plan to list general finesse but not any of the innate finesse modifiers

sterile basalt
pale spindle
elfin cedar
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But the way the formula is written in the image that Egoist is posted is still confusing me

solar gorge
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tempura storm

sterile basalt
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It’s a concept I introduced to make visualizing the change easier compared to doing maths with finesse mods

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dCW big = you get more value out of finesse boosts

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It’s easier to visualize

elfin cedar
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But in that formula finesse is being added to the weakspot modifier

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Not multiplying

sterile basalt
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Because there’re attacks that have low finesse modifiers, but have such high base damage that the resulting dCW is still quite big (like plasma)

sterile basalt
elfin cedar
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Because finesse is supposed to multiply off the weapon's finesse

heady rapids
sterile basalt
elfin cedar
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Yes, but that formula you wrote is not what is in the guide

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The formula you just wrote has the weakspot bonus multiplying with finesse, but in the guide it's being added

sterile basalt
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Which is the exact same thing

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300-100 is dCW

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Weakspot damage, crit damage and finesse are additive with each other

elfin cedar
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That is still multiplication, it doesn't make a difference

sterile basalt
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This has always been the case

elfin cedar
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OH

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Oh ok I get it

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The dCW is the "innate" multiplier

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Alright it makes sense, thanks

elfin cedar
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Finesse scales off that

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Yes

sterile basalt
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It’s just smth I introduced for visualization

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Because it’s more representative than finesse visually

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You can have low finesse but high dCW

ripe quest
sterile basalt
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But I also don’t have plans to add crit mod or finesse mod per armor type

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Just too much work for someone as lazy as me

elfin cedar
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In short, finesse is calculated exactly like weakspot/crit dmg

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Although it is obviously stronger since it applies to both

sterile basalt
hearty nebula
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im assuming the kinda is adm/resistances etc

sterile basalt
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It is stronger than weakspot & crit damage bonuses

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But also crit non-weakspot usually doesn’t matter that much for most weapons

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So I don’t think about the specific benefit there much

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I also just don’t think

hearty nebula
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We know

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it's ok

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we don't either

sterile basalt
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Those are using newest formatting

hearty nebula
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I'm not a woodworker

sterile basalt
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Quite proud of them

hearty nebula
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I shall look

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oh neat

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but im mostly interested in updated blessings/perks

signal spoke
misty nova
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Just put the tamagoshi into the ai dawg

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"Even AI deserves attention"

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I mean

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Sure

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Just not that kind of attention

sterile basalt
sterile basalt
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So the navigation panel will look cleaner after it’s done

hearty nebula
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but also don't vet & zealot have different breakpoints because of elite talent & also purge the unclean

sterile basalt
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Kinda yes

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But also

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If you’re not gonna hit breakpoints on a breakpoint gun

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You’re prob not gonna use it much

hearty nebula
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idc about guns

sterile basalt
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And zealot has throwing knives

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And as for melee

hearty nebula
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just want my MELEES

sterile basalt
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They’re about the same

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Zealot has less damage unless martyrdom

ivory marlin
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Darktide melee is probably one of my favorite types of melee in games

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It feels yummers

sterile basalt
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There’re only 2 melee weapons that care about specific breakpoints and both run unarmored across every class for the best scab bruiser 1 hit consistency possible

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I also have finished both of their sectional overhauls

ivory marlin
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Hiya path

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How goes

solar gorge
sterile basalt
ivory marlin
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Idk what that is but good job

solar gorge
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dude do you need help

sterile basalt
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To acquire drip

ivory marlin
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Oh

sterile basalt
misty nova
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Ugh

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I still gotta do that

solar gorge
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i ain't doing it

sterile basalt
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I don’t care about salvage lord title

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Same way I don’t care about fake survivor

heady rapids
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i havent booted the game once since i finished the event

solar gorge
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i think i'm just waiting for mechanicus or an event or something

frosty herald
misty nova
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I got so many games to play

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So little time

sterile basalt
solar gorge
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yeah i got so many games to play too!

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like

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deadlock

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and uh

sterile basalt
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Poxbreaker just sounds cooler than both

heady rapids
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yeah we know that you dont play anything other than deadlock

hearty nebula
sterile basalt
misty nova
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Hades 2
Mewgenics
Prey
Middivers 2
Darktide
The division 2
DRG
DRG survivor

solar gorge
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i bought liminal blocsk today actually i think i will play it tonite when i'm zoned out

heady rapids
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LambdaCore
playing
Deadlock

solar gorge
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playing nothing tho rn

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im studying

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stfu

sterile stone
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It’s like Jerry springer but the host is an accountant and the guest are people who are grossly in debt because they can’t prioritize spending money properly

heady rapids
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cant afford to fail this

sterile basalt
# hearty nebula Fat

I also got the voxcaster backpack with the same urban digital looking camo to match the armor

visual stream
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Billy light attack homework due Monday

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chop chop

signal spoke
sterile stone
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How’d you know Caleb

sterile stone
hearty nebula
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It's april first in japan bro

sterile stone
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Watching this rn

signal spoke
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planet earth is stupid

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why cant she think of just picking one timezone

hearty nebula
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big fat and rotund

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spinning

plush estuary
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Speaking of spinning

frosty herald
sullen forge
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This actually happened

plush estuary
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yup

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gake

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I got KF2

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willow wants me to play

frosty herald
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gake

plush estuary
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do you have it

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@lunar fable

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event time

ivory marlin
lunar fable
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fucking bnuy

sterile stone
ivory marlin
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Gwuh

olive raven
hearty nebula
sullen forge
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You'd like it, issue is im ass cause I haven't touched it in what

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5 years

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LMAO

hard nexus
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i bought it for you

plush estuary
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she got me it

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yyeah

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thanks

hard nexus
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3 whole dollar

plush estuary
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3

hard nexus
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throws dollar at u

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don’t spend it all in one place,,

ivory marlin
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What is kf2

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I made a kfc joke but im not in the know

frosty herald
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killing floor 2

heady rapids
frosty herald
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LOL

heady rapids
ivory marlin
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Chat what the hell is this

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Also the new witherbloom has affinity for creatures

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What the actual shitballs

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@full nebula for the low low price of 1 open black mana a turn 4 blightsteel colossus can be yours

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Or any creature you desire

hearty nebula
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gub

wraith halo
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Erm what the shit

upbeat gazelle
glossy nimbus
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You'll get perms once ur orange

crystal yoke
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i see

glossy nimbus
crystal yoke
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how do i Ripen

glossy nimbus
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Wha

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Oh

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Talk a lot

crystal yoke
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lol

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i see

glossy nimbus
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It'll happen before you know it

calm salmon
crystal yoke
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Yes

crystal yoke
elfin cedar
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Ok y'alls, what would you say is the easiest zealot build in the game for havoc?

crystal yoke
violet hornet
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Probably fatmangus

elfin cedar
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Oh yeah I forgor fatmangus

crystal yoke
elfin cedar
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But I am not touching that

crystal yoke
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that sounds like an insulting name given to an obese toad

elfin cedar
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It's an apt name

violet hornet
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It's fun, I ran it last season and it worked

crystal yoke
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may you elaborate

elfin cedar
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A giga survivable zealot build that focuses on max health plus funny talent interactions to have absurd survivability

crystal yoke
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oh hell yeah, sounds fun! does it work with relic blade

elfin cedar
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You take full health curios plus bleed for the emperor and enduring faith, with relic blade, shroudfield and inexorable judgment

violet hornet
plush estuary
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@lunar fable

violet hornet
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You do need to work to do damage with it unfortunately since it's quite survivability heavy

crystal yoke
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I see

elfin cedar
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Basically you have 300+ hp, 4 wounds, you take 40% less damage from anything that would take you to your next wound, heal 20% of all health damage you take, and you still have until death and holy revenant

violet hornet
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You can facetank like 10+ consecutive havoc 40 bursters with it tho

plush estuary
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I took 8 damage from a burster

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in my solo H40

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not in the video but another attempt

crystal yoke
plush estuary
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Here is the solo

violet hornet
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!yes

plush estuary
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!yes

glossy cloud
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Someone call for a boam?

plush estuary
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He kept calling for mollyu

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when I had 2 eggs on me

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lol

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you gonna play easter event?

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I'm already done with last years assignment

calm salmon
plush estuary
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she is offended

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wait

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Isnt it Trans day?

calm salmon
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I saw that earlier

obsidian prairie
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Yep

crystal yoke
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Oh the one day where they are visible

calm salmon
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I have no idea KEKW_ogryn

plush estuary
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Happy trans day

calm salmon
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I'm just a girl

plush estuary
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same

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I just leanred about it

crystal yoke
obsidian prairie
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We aren't invisible today or smth

calm salmon
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painge

plush estuary
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hidden trans power

obsidian prairie
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Wrong

solar gorge
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you're never invincible dw you're not mark grayson

obsidian prairie
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Today is the day explicitly for crime

crystal yoke
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Commit crime when visible, be bold

crystal yoke
obsidian prairie
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I'd say something funny but this server has a secret killjoy who discord reports people for having fun (making threats towards our Supreme leader)

crystal yoke
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is Hadron the supreme ruler

obsidian prairie
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Supreme leader of the US

crystal yoke
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oh

void bison
void bison
obsidian prairie
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I uhhh

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Did

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And got a 1 day chat ban

void bison
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worthwhile

crystal yoke
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Oh god please no student loans

sterile stone
obsidian prairie
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Yeah basically

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Some little baby too much of a bitch to crash out like a real racist

void bison
fathom spear
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Honestly there's no harm or bile to say about a maga cockroach that they aren't doing to themselves by definition- they're not actually one of the senior parasites so it's an exercise in self-harm to be one of the trumpspawn

calm salmon
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Args is cool

obsidian prairie
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Not args

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The lurker

calm salmon
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this channel is crack

void bison
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I cant wait for another episode of invincible yippee

calm salmon
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Another episode of 3 frames of animation?

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One Punch Man and Invincible fans together strong

void bison
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season 4 has had fine animation

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and unlike opm its especially improved where it counts

void bison
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s1 was peak

opal star
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too bad there's no season 3

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the animation would be so peak

sterile stone
plush estuary
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<@&735928989146939404> account stolen

ivory marlin
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Gwuh

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Who stole what

opal star
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One Frame Man and PNGcible

hearty nebula
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trevor moore was a real one

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🫡

plush estuary
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Pinball

opal star
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there's a distinct lack of voice lines being spammed in this DRG clip

opal star
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hell yea

signal spoke
plush estuary
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fanter

frosty herald
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this looks ugly as shit lmao

signal spoke
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Fanta chief

frosty herald
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also fanter

signal spoke
misty nova
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Dey put the Master Chief in the soder

ivory marlin
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Holy throwback

calm salmon
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I'd rather see a crayon eater

misty ravine
plush estuary
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The egg that makes you disappear

opal star
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you killed him

plush estuary
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😔

opal star
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You think your act of murder was ethical because he was gone in an instant but you subjected him to a million years of torment in less than a second

ivory marlin
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Wait wtf

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Who let a dreg rager in here

opaque island
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not just 1 dreg rager

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but seven billion six hundred and three million nine hundred and eighty thousand nine hundred and ninety seven of them

ivory marlin
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Oh shit

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Josh look at this rq

opaque island
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if you could press a button and get $1000000000 dollars but you have to spend 1 year trapped in a void with nothing else, afterwards the memory of your time in the void is completely wiped and its only been 1 second since you pressed the button, do you?

opaque island
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just woke up from nappies

violet hornet
ivory marlin
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He’s getting a haircut tomorrow

opaque island
calm salmon
calm salmon
opaque island
calm salmon
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I'm just saying that if my one year was condensed into 1 second real-time

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I'd still be broken of any chemical co-dependencies because I've gone a year without them

opal star
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1 year cold turkey

mystic ether
opal star
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how on earth would you blow through 1 billion dollars in a lifetime

opaque island
opal star
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as a sensible person

mystic ether
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I'm not trying to sustain wealth so it's possible.

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That money is going to genuinely beneficial things

opaque island
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you wouldnt even have to invest so that it makes money for you, i dont think you're blowing through 1 billion dollars without purposefully trying to by like buying a ton of property like yachts

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charity and shit?

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not a bad choice

opal star
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depends on the charity but yeah

mystic ether
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Not charity, no.

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That's money that going towards people's actual infrastructural needs, not charity that won't actually take things in a different direction. But there's also a whole lot of other shit to worry about

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All that is um

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Yeah, that's not something a billion fixes exactly. But perhaps a much much stronger start.

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And big money shit is an entire system on to itself. Money won't fix it entirely.

opaque island
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while its a great idea and im behind it how do you deal with the people that are gonna roadblock and slow you down every step of the way

mystic ether
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That's like a gaggle of governments and other rich assholes. That's another way the money won't last long. Maybe not entirely spent in my lifetime but I'm not about to be getting my hands in all kinds of shit since that'd be the only real way for me to sustain wealth for myself to keep doing things. I'd basically be trying to repair a sinking ship that I deliberately am ignoring the holes of lol.

And I want nothing to do with direct affiliations, nor relationships with big time money types.

plush estuary
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account level 402, finally finished all Season trees. 550 hours in

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@lunar fable

mystic ether
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But that's funds going directly into something that can maybe reverse some of what I've had to lived through and awkwardly tumble barely out of but not really. That's money going to education initiatives, community projects that move further away from being entirely dependent on big boy money, etc.

All the other stuff that a single wealthy person cannot materially actually have a meaningful impact on is a different set of exchanges.

tranquil bone
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Lot of people take like nearly 100 hours per season

signal spoke
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Isnt there currently a holiday event going on

plush estuary
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YE

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buinny

signal spoke
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The Easter gives double xp so yeah

exotic plaza
opaque island
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oh did they disable image perms in here?

glossy nimbus
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no

exotic plaza
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no

exotic plaza
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also psychward updated

plush estuary
misty ravine
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Image perms still in effect (for now)

opaque island
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this is nurgle coded and now i believe its cursed

jagged cradle
plush estuary
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thats my driller

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he is red becuase he wants to kill bugs

jagged cradle
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that’s an amazing reason

wraith halo
opaque island
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ate too much red sugar? or tried Nitra on a dare?

acoustic dune
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tf happen to yog

wraith halo
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I tried to get into drg like 3 times but just couldn't

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It's a fun game but idk

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Something doesn't click

plush estuary
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to each their own

acoustic dune
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wheres yog

plush estuary
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I like the goofy elements and how hard you can push difficulty

wraith halo
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I feel like I'm missing some part of it

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That makes it good

opaque island
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did you at least get to a higher difficulty levle, the game is pretty boring on the lower ones, like helldivers

wraith halo
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Also nobody I know really plays it and I'm not keen to try convincing my partner to play another game

tranquil bone
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Yeah for most people 4 is the first real diff

ivory marlin
wraith halo
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Unsure

acoustic dune
opaque island
acoustic dune
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i cant ping him

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@void bison

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oh nvm

ivory marlin
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@void bison

opaque island
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which yog there's like 5 of them

ivory marlin
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Crazy

plush estuary
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@pure tree

acoustic dune
opaque island
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smh my head

ivory marlin
plush estuary
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Red sugar!

wraith halo
pure tree
plush estuary
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indeed

pure tree
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I get it now

wraith halo
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They ended up loving it tho

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So that was nice

signal spoke
plush estuary
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did you see godd?

opaque island
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what does being a rabbit have to do with being red?

acoustic dune
wraith halo
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Mostly we play modded mc together rn

acoustic dune
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i swear

tranquil bone
pure tree
plush estuary
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you got this

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waiting for a sale to get gf into drg

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we missed the last one

wraith halo
tranquil bone
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500 is probably with mainlining 5+ since the first day

misty nova
tranquil bone
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And cosmetic cores will hold you over for like nearly twice that anyway

pure tree
plush estuary
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sad

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yeah

pure tree
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Rogue Core is out in May, so I reckon they'll do a sale for DRG by then

acoustic dune
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chat

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when are we giving doreta a body

tranquil bone
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They do drg sales constantly yeah

plush estuary
#

we made a deal, I try rust she trys drg

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every time i think of rust

violet hornet
#

Gonna be naked throwing bone knives at fully kitted people in no time

plush estuary
#

I think of that clip

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"he has no ammo"

tranquil bone
#

Horrible deal lol

plush estuary
#

gets shot

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"he has ammo"

sterile stone
sterile stone
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Bro was a brainwashed Arasaka corpo

signal spoke
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He was more reasonable tbh

signal spoke
median steeple
pure tree
median steeple
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How do you fuck up an angel bro

signal spoke
plush estuary
#

its so goofy

tranquil bone
#

Does this look like the face of mercy?

obsidian ore
plush estuary
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sorry ham

obsidian ore
wraith halo
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I hope ainz never becomes a devil because he'd make the worst deals

spare talon
plush estuary
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lol

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I was willing to give it an attempt

wraith halo
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This is like trading your nice new Lexus for a jalopy from Serbia

spare talon
#

One person is always getting the short end of the stick

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And not by a small amount
Closer to the short end of the tree

wraith halo
#

Rust is.... Certainly an experience

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You have to be a very specific person to play rust and like it

#

And honestly why not just play dayz c'mon nowKEKW

spare talon
#

My brother agreed to watch jojo up to part 4, in exchange, I had to play every story quest in warframe

plush estuary
#

sorry for your loss

tranquil bone
#

Some say he's still grinding to this day

spare talon
#

My brother extended that to someone else, a mutual friend (ex friend for me, kind of a toxic person at the time despite shared interests but my brother kept in contact)

spare talon
wraith halo
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Warframe has a great story, very deep and meaningful and philosophical. Shame it's buried behind a literal work's worth of grinding, star chart unlocks, and syndicate standings.

spare talon
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Bear in mind this guy is a blue collar Bible reciting conservative that had some pretty spicy things to say sometimes

wraith halo
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Lmao

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He probably couldn't handle peak fiction

plush estuary
spare talon
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And he sat
Through 3 seasons of my little pony

plush estuary
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poor bunny 😔

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lmao

wraith halo
plush estuary
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yes

misty ravine
wraith halo
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No fuckinf way

plush estuary
#

DT stole from drg

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og zealot was driller

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all along

wraith halo
#

Og driller is scout from TF2 with cleaver

plush estuary
#

its true

spare talon
plush estuary
#

automate dn

misty nova
south prism
#

finally some good content

misty nova
#

Only 46 minutes?

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💀

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Damn, it must be a good build

void bison
acoustic dune
void bison
#

a billion years of digital suffering

acoustic dune
#

you played helldiver 2 laterly?

void bison
#

killing squids

wraith halo
#

Squids 💤

acoustic dune
void bison
#

hallow mallow

acoustic dune
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its so evil what they did

south prism
#

wolp hate me..................... wolp hate me..........................

void bison
#

maybe they know what youve done

south prism
acoustic dune
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hello milling

wraith halo
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No fucking way

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I'm ur biggest fan you've saved so many runs for me

south prism
#

my bf sent me this gif giggling his stupid little ass off

tranquil bone
acoustic dune
wraith halo
acoustic dune
#

BF/???

south prism
#

yaa i live with my bf

south prism
#

we have a little stupid house together

acoustic dune
#

MALLOW GAY WOLP ARC???

plush estuary
south prism
#

i just made chicken parmesean...................

tranquil bone
wraith halo
#

Nah I'd win

misty ravine
wraith halo
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Sounds cool tho I'll check it out

void bison
plush estuary
tranquil bone
#

They are still a bit lean and it sucks that their actually enjoyable experience is locked behind a sub faction but it's a lot better

south prism
acoustic dune
south prism
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the new flamethrower looks so cool

acoustic dune
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cant say the same about the bugs

south prism
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i want to play again

acoustic dune
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theres no down time

void bison
tranquil bone
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Backpack flamer is the first good backpack weapon

south prism
#

watt

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wtf are terminids borken or something

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or is this on their special planets

void bison
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the smg with an underbarrel flamethrower is pretty fun too

acoustic dune
#

and an endless hordes

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like

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wtf

south prism
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i liked taking the old flamethrower and the hover pack and melting bile titan faces

tranquil bone
#

See playing on a bile roach planet was your first mistake

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Awful enemies

acoustic dune
#

IT CLIP THROUGH BUILDING

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my silo cant hit them

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BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A BUILDING

void bison
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since vox engines were added i dont like bots very much and I havent had an mo or anything to follow for bugs

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so mostly eating calamari

acoustic dune
#

calamari are fun

tranquil bone
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you pretty much require a crack shot RR guy on AA duty. It sucks

acoustic dune
#

its too much

void bison
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nah the cremator would work as intended

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for anything except fliers

tranquil bone
#

IDK I don't mind the swarms at all. Just the roaches

acoustic dune
tranquil bone
#

Why tho

acoustic dune
#

i cant resuplly

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cause I DONT HAVE TIME TO RESUPPLY

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also fucking roache decide to 1 shot me

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for no reason

acoustic dune
#

like not from the fire

tranquil bone
#

Yeah they love doing that

acoustic dune
#

just it puke i die

acoustic dune
void bison
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some kind of new vehicle will release soonish

acoustic dune
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man...

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I HAATE AMERICA

void bison
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there was a dispatch message about collected data for vehicle r&d

tranquil bone
#

I don't even know where people see them anymore. The one place I knew of is dead as hell

tranquil bone
acoustic dune
#

trust

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it wont be a warbond

#

trust

void bison
#

the message was coincided with free frv stratagem to help collect data

acoustic dune
#

the 1 that was sitting in game for like

misty nova
acoustic dune
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foerver?

misty nova
#

I mean

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Psychic

tranquil bone
#

Id love to see the APC that has been kicking around in the files for years but at this point I just assume nothing will happen and be happy when they do good stuff occasionally

misty nova
#

Or

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Bots death star

acoustic dune
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costumisable walls

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grenade laucher is neat

misty nova
#

But with the whole Warp thing going on

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It's probably psychic first

acoustic dune
#

but a mg would be neat

misty nova
#

The Borgs have been kept at bay

tranquil bone
acoustic dune
tranquil bone
#

Appropriators are a great start but the base roster still needs a lot of work

void bison
#

i wish mindless masses was good

tranquil bone
#

Yeah...

void bison
#

the technical difficulties behind the game strike again

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here is 5 voteless

tranquil bone
#

I think it would need a new voteless enemy to really be engaging

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Current mindless somehow makes it both easier and more annoying

acoustic dune
#

or smth

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speaking off

void bison
#

I wonder if theres ways to make them look more numerous while not eating performance, like when a game has a swarm of insects or something thats really just one enemy

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but idk probably not

acoustic dune
#

stalker

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hate them

void bison
#

they should just make the game run at 1000 fps and have 300 enemies on screen

misty nova
#

Hate em

tranquil bone
#

Orbtruders are 10x better than voteless

void bison
#

obtruders couldn't hit the broadside of a barn until theres a million of them

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the warrant kills them fast

acoustic dune
#

too much spawn

void bison
#

I miss stingrays but they probably wouldnt mesh well with the exosuits getting up in your face

hearty nebula
misty nova
#

I died more to obtruders kamikaze than the actual shot

#

Lmao

acoustic dune
void bison
#

oh yeah dont be near them theres a bug or something with their damage

tranquil bone
#

The big packs are part of what makes em enjoyable imo. Lots of things shred them in bulk.
I was running double edge sickle and creamator and it worked fantastic

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Or good ol flack AC

#

The reload buff was actually kinda nuts

void bison
#

the maxigun is fun against appropriators

misty nova
glossy nimbus
void bison
#

i love the trench shotgun with reinforced epaulets or siege ready for reload speed

tranquil bone
#

Significantly faster

void bison
#

screen shake apparently effects your aim a lot so I turned it from weak to off

#

like it actually affects it not just disorienting

tranquil bone
#

Half a second off the partial reload and a full second off the full reload

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You barely get onto your knee before the clip is already in

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Like you can do slide jukes while reloading practically

void bison
#

the support reload upgrade or was it buffed?

tranquil bone
#

AC specifically got buffed

#

And flak utterly mogs every single illuminate

calm salmon
# glossy nimbus Its faster?

AC-8 Autocannon

Faster reload

Full reload around 1 second faster from around 5.5 sec to 4.5 sec

Half reload around 0.5 sec faster from around 2.3 sec → 1.8 sec

frosty herald
calm salmon
#

Autocannon has been buffed twice now I believe?

#

Time for another railgun nerf

#

Long time ago it got a 25% damage buff, and now it's gotten a significant reload buff

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It. . . didn't need either one

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but here we are

acoustic dune
#

or epoch

calm salmon
#

I use the epoch on bugs

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Just to change things up

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It's not bad

#

just. . . unwieldy?

acoustic dune
#

unwieldy?

calm salmon
#

Railgun is just gigabad on bugs now though because of TTK on chargers/titans and zero use against trash

calm salmon
#

It's overall clunky

acoustic dune
#

ah

calm salmon
#

For. . . not much return

acoustic dune
#

i just go by sound

acoustic dune
tranquil bone
#

Imo honestly yeah AC did need the APHE mode buff. It still doesn't have amazing breakpoints or ttk against heavies and the flak is near objectively better against everything else

calm salmon
#

I have a mod that beeps KEKW_ogryn

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Both for the railgun and epoch

#

because Arrowhead is incompetent

tranquil bone
calm salmon
#

I would call it b-tier

#

the 3 round magazine is intentionally clunky

#

one charger kill, throw the last round into a pile of trash to kill a few enemies

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reload, do it again

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It's not amazing, and it basically requires the supply backpack

tranquil bone
#

Yeah definitely, I don't run it without

calm salmon
#

Granted: Every ballistic support weapon basically requires the supply backpack to be worth a damn

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Or, I guess I should say, everything not laser-based

tranquil bone
#

I really like the niche of it's decently sized AT explosion, gives it weird but fun breakpoints and incentive for shooting at other places sometimes

calm salmon
#

I just wish it had some actual fuckoff explosion AOE

#

it's really annoying shooting into 5 clipping bile spewers and killing two of them

#

Hell, you can shoot an alpha commander and not kill the warriors it just summoned

deft badge
#

Can epoch still break those war strider fabs from the outside?

calm salmon
#

mathematically tuned explosion AOE to not hit multiple parts on a bile titan or charger, so its kinda meh at cc

tranquil bone
#

Should be able to

calm salmon
#

🤔

deft badge
#

I always thought that was a neat gimmick tbh

calm salmon
#

Epoch doesn't have any demo force

tranquil bone
#

It got 40

deft badge
calm salmon
#

Unless the heavy unit factories function with health or something

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But you can't close bug holes for instance

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or normal factory spawners

deft badge
#

It used to one shot them, idk about now

#

I haven't played HD2 in awhile

tranquil bone
#

So enough for vents and holes

calm salmon
#

I've never been able to get it to close a bug hole

tranquil bone
#

Needs overcharged shots iirc

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And it's still fairly small

calm salmon
#

guess I'm just ass I dunno

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I know you need to shoot into the bughole with the AC/grenades

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so I was just doing that

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but nada

#

I wish arrowhead would just remove the ultimatum though KEKW_ogryn

#

I cannot see any reason for any other sidearm to exist when this thing does

deft badge
#

Talon better iirc

tranquil bone
#

Talon has a reason to exist but yeah power creep go brrr

deft badge
#

Tbh

tranquil bone
#

Idk if I'd say it is straight better but it's damn good

deft badge
#

I prefer stock nade pistol to ulti

void bison
deft badge
deft badge
calm salmon
#

so you can kill hulks if you're brave enough

void bison
#

the plasma pistol is decent

tranquil bone
#

One less pen and the reduced damage make them a bit less comparable.
The one real downside of the talon is that it has trash durable %

spare talon
calm salmon
#

I don't think anyone is spending 25 rounds to kill a bile titan or charger with the senator though

tranquil bone
#

Like 5/200

#

Heavy does also make a difference firing at medium armor targets tbf

calm salmon
#

I will say, the Ultimatum, like everything really, just gets better with the supply backpack.

deft badge
#

I mean

calm salmon
#

So if you use Epoch+SB+Ultimatum

deft badge
#

This is a supply backpack thing

calm salmon
#

you solve everything on the bug front

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and most things on the bot front

deft badge
#

Everyone's known since day like 3 it's one of if not the best actual backpack

frosty herald
#

i havent played hd2 in a long while since illuminates first were added

hearty nebula
#

gub

deft badge
#

Dw they still have nothing

calm salmon
#

Kinda funny taking the AMR to the bug front though

calm salmon
#

With the SB

plush estuary
#

guys

frosty herald
#

i did hear that arrowhead fucked mechs

calm salmon
#

You can just kinda sit wherever and kill bile titans/chargers because you have infinite ammo

calm salmon
#

who cares if it takes 20 shots

tranquil bone
#

HD2 is in a better state than it has been for a while but that still ain't saying a lot

deft badge
#

Tbh

calm salmon
#

HD2 is fine

deft badge
#

The only era of HD2 I want

#

Is when slugger was The Gun

calm salmon
#

I genuinely think it's a 5/10 game though

frosty herald
calm salmon
#

The warbond situation is genuinely ass

frosty herald
#

they fucked up the mechs

plush estuary
#

I never played HD2

hearty nebula
#

good

deft badge
#

It's cool for a bit

tranquil bone
#

Id be a little more generous than that but yeah it's a game I enjoy in spite of itself

calm salmon
#

And the desync on corpses is forever infuriating

#

But otherwise its fine

deft badge
#

You can definitely get a couple hundred hours out of it

plush estuary
deft badge
#

Lmfao

#

Lucky you

plush estuary
#

drug addict 😔

calm salmon
#

I will say, HD2 is the most fun when you just don't give a shit about the game

deft badge
#

I think you still made it out of the overhead anyway tho

calm salmon
#

Like, release HD2 was and will always be the best it was

#

because it was FUN

deft badge
calm salmon
#

unfortunately, arrowhead is now selling fun for 10 dollars a pop and 20 hours of grinding

#

and refuses to stop

deft badge
#

Release HD2 wasn't bloated

calm salmon
#

so that's not great

deft badge
#

I couldn't imagine starting the game with zero warbonds today

tranquil bone
#

Yeah that would suck hard

calm salmon
#

I mean, Arrowhead keeps balancing the game around warbonds

#

which just makes it suck

#

yeah, sure, dudeboy baby mcgee put 40 hours in

#

and can take an RR and liberator to dif 10 bugs and kinda do okay, sorta

deft badge
#

Late warbonds normally only have 1 good thing in em too ime

tranquil bone
#

I only keep up with them because I have the momentum of already owning almost everything

deft badge
#

Same

calm salmon
#

The newest warbond being 900 medals and having ONE worthwhile thing in it is fucking insane though

tranquil bone
#

They have gotten a bit better about that, the recent ones have been like
One A/S tier and a couple Bs

calm salmon
#

And it's a mediocre mortar that doesn't even work because they fucking obliterated the shell travel time

#

so it never fucking hits anything

deft badge
#

Yes DbD Xeno Queen we see it

plush estuary
#

lmao

calm salmon
#

Shotgun being in the rotating superstore is scummy as fuck too

#

Shovel should've been there

#

and the shotgun in the warbond

tranquil bone
#

I love that shotgun but yeah it's egregious being 600

calm salmon
#

But. . . I think it's safe to say at this point that Arrowhead doesn't actually have any integrity left whatsoever. Whatever makes them the most amount of money is all that matters.

deft badge
#

I have copious amounts of disposable income rn and I'm still not buying it

calm salmon
#

For all its faults though, all you "needed" was the trident

deft badge
#

This fuck ass weapon

calm salmon
#

because triple orbital precision strikes and the trident would carry you to dif15

tranquil bone
calm salmon
#

I'm just a little over the Warbond situation.