You've been conditioned to bullshit diffs
#zealot-class
misty nova
sand plaza
the event is fun until you realize scum RPG can clear out waves of 100 crushers while everyone else has to kite
glossy nimbus
Everyone murders everything before I can
misty nova
Nothing will ever fulfill you anymore
glossy nimbus
Its so boring if I don't run ahead
plush estuary
Solo play
shadow spruce
wermp
glossy nimbus
Idk I was doing fine in terms of performance
glossy nimbus
Hmmm
plush estuary
Try with and without
glossy nimbus
What does it actually do
misty nova
Why would I need that
Because the game uses lag compensation
plush estuary
Offline mode has 0 lag comp
shadow spruce
because fatshark hates you
glossy nimbus
Lmao
plush estuary
*but without
I sometimes play with a Russian with 240 Ms to my server and ragers can't hit him
misty nova
because fatshark hates you
Truer words have never been spoken
plush estuary
But he can't dodge dogs or mutants
It's night and day difference for me when I got the mod
glossy nimbus
Hmm
shadow spruce
But he can't dodge dogs or mutants
i remember back towards launch i couldnt dodge dogs cause theyd miss me and still land
glossy nimbus
Ill get it then
misty ravine
i remember back towards launch i couldnt dodge dogs cause theyd miss me and stil...
Launch dogs were just physics defying entities, and even now I feel like I have to react absurdly early to count as hitting/shoving/dodging them
shadow spruce
yeah
for a while i kept getting hit with "its a skissue" but then they like REALLY really broke dogs
misty ravine
Like, so early that the swing is clearly over before the dog reaches me, but it counts as hitting it
glossy nimbus
Launch dogs were just physics defying entities, and even now I feel like I have ...
Different experience for me
vivid bough
it is always so jarring to be occasionally reminded that i have this mod
(this is the only custom background i added)
glossy nimbus
Sometimes these dogs idgaf about me bruh
glossy nimbus
it is always so jarring to be occasionally reminded that i have this mod
(this i...
I should get back on this show
vivid bough
don't give me that anime stare
shadow spruce
glossy nimbus
don't give me that anime stare
plush estuary
I should get back on this show
glossy nimbus
STRAWBERRY
plush estuary
Strawberry dragon
shadow spruce
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930219356737142864/1155340650343051345/1695495967700832.gif
plush estuary
Strawgon
glossy nimbus
Strawgonoff
shadow spruce
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930219356737142864/1155340650343051345/...
i love this gif
vivid bough
just the juxtaposition of hugging horse behind some text like 'OBEDIENCE IS FAITH' or whatever
shadow spruce
just the juxtaposition of hugging horse behind some text like 'OBEDIENCE IS FAIT...
sure it is
glossy nimbus
I could change my loading screen to
plush estuary
How goes the house sitting?
shadow spruce
youre a clopper arent you
glossy nimbus
Already with the allegations
shadow spruce
i am covered in cat hair
good day then
vivid bough
youre a clopper arent you
i do not know what that is
misty ravine
just the juxtaposition of hugging horse behind some text like 'OBEDIENCE IS FAIT...
That doesn't make it better tho
glossy nimbus
i do not know what that is
Blessed are the ignorant
vivid bough
my friend invited me to a charity thing for a horse rescue and they all really like this show for some reason
vivid bough
it was a good time the rescue is run by a very nice woman :)
shadow spruce
clopper
glossy nimbus
why do *you* know
Why shouldn't I know
glossy nimbus
my friend invited me to a charity thing for a horse rescue and they all really l...
for some reason
glossy nimbus
chrome wave
nvm let me look it up
glossy nimbus
Bruh
glossy cloud
oh god
shadow spruce
vivid bough
gork, what does this mean...
glossy nimbus
Why is goblin here
shadow spruce
GOBLIN DEEZ
chrome wave
i regret
glossy cloud
what do you mean, why am I here?
glossy nimbus
Why are you here when we're talking about this
chrome wave
yes
plush estuary
Okay
glossy cloud
please don't lmao
shadow spruce
no ainz dont do it
glossy nimbus
Are the ignorant
plush estuary
Not a topic that should be used in this server probably
glossy nimbus
Its not even that bad
glossy cloud
Its not even that bad
it's pretty bad
glossy nimbus
Not a topic that should be used in this server probably
shadow spruce
missus is absolutely a clopper
plush estuary
There has already been warnings about stuff like this in gen chat since this server isn't 18+ only
vivid bough
you smell of the old guard
glossy nimbus
Merry christmas everyone
hexed igloo
https://tenor.com/view/mlp-clop-pinkie-pie-copper-tops-gif-12029660854725697643
no way yall aint know what that is tho
shadow spruce
mer crimmer
glossy nimbus
no way yall aint know what that is tho
Some ppl aren't terminally online
glossy nimbus
glossy cloud
aren't actually that much of a degen
hexed igloo
its been a thing for like 10+ years tho
glossy cloud
ya
glossy nimbus
Do you guys like sea food
hexed igloo
like im not into mlp but like
glossy cloud
doesn't mean everyone is gonna know about it
if they don't actually engage much with mlp
glossy nimbus
vivid bough
i never really got into the craze at the time but a friend linked me to some hour long music mix and not gonna lie some of it is bangers
i suppose these cartoon horses are not all bad
shadow spruce
theres a tweet/meme i saw a while back of like "austin powers would misgender you but he'd be like i shoulda seen a bird baybee shagadellic yeah"
ill have to track it down
misty ravine
Austin Powers would never be bigoted against anyone (except the Dutch)
shadow spruce
yeah im gonna be real its a little rough trying to track it down
glossy cloud
oddly enough, zealot actually got a big glow up because of one change lol
hexed igloo
LEND ME YOUR EAR
Left or right
zinc talon
oh my god picasso emerges as a new challenger
or was that van gogh
it was van gogh
I'VE FOUND HIM
IN A DISCORD OFFICIAL SERVER
zinc talon
Left or right
I would like to commission you for a series of increasingly shitty 'artistic' works
involving the left ear only
sullen forge
oddly enough, zealot actually got a big glow up because of one change lol
Zealous Aura right
glossy cloud
Zealous Aura right
yap
sullen forge
cause that .15 second change is pretty fucking huge
zinc talon
okay I'll quit you guys are having constructive conversations
glossy cloud
yeah it's actually kinda massive
sullen forge
Vet didn't really get much but the change on GBITF to ranged cleave is honestly Beuno
zinc talon
you think?
glossy cloud
like this might be one of the biggest glow ups of the patch
glossy cloud
you think?
Stam delay is one of zealot's major weakpoints
sullen forge
The real winner is Ilas buffs though
glossy cloud
This may legit be like, the zealot aura now
Especially since
everyone
is affected
sullen forge
15% TDR is still pretty tough
glossy cloud
Which is uh
zinc talon
oh for sure, being able to zoop out of problenms letting your stamina sit stil while maybe deflecting a swing or two
glossy cloud
Possibly a little busted actually
zinc talon
aint a thang vets known well for
glossy cloud
cuz uh, i mean it's a nice improvement for vet and ogryn, but for psyker, arby and scum?
zinc talon
ogri need no help, they have the ButtPush
glossy cloud
what even is stamina delay for those three now
zinc talon
single most powerful ability given to anyone ever anywhewr
sullen forge
Overall Buffs to Infil and (Idk why) EStance is nice and CD nerf to VOC
Veteran now actually has to think and choose thier Abilities
glossy nimbus
Should I rename my character to ACCEPTMEYOUBITCH
zinc talon
like I was already kickin ass before ogryn sidesteps sent everything 90*
glossy cloud
Overall Buffs to Infil and (Idk why) EStance is nice and CD nerf to VOC
They just needed to give golden toughness the CD nerf
zinc talon
now that sidestps do
sullen forge
that and revive shout no longer has negatives
glossy cloud
I really do not like that they keep nerfing shout itself when gold is the actual issue
zinc talon
actually, honest question
sullen forge
all negatives were removed on revive shout
glossy cloud
It is such a simple solution
sullen forge
I fw tbh
zinc talon
are people using the shout revives teammates, at all
glossy nimbus
I really do not like that they keep nerfing shout itself when gold is the actual...
actually true
sullen forge
are people using the shout revives teammates, at all
Unironically havoc 40
zinc talon
if I ever played a vet up that'd be my Thang trademark
glossy nimbus
are people using the shout revives teammates, at all
once in a blood moon
sullen forge
it has value
zinc talon
you're trolling me
sullen forge
no im not
zinc talon
oh my god I've found my calling
glossy cloud
you're trolling me
Legit got saved by a vet with revive shout
sullen forge
usually a death sentence in Havoc to go down but it can save bad scenarios
zinc talon
FUCK YOU NEW VET RANK 30 PLUS FOUR LEMME INTA HAVIC FAWDY
glossy cloud
And we actually won the game because of that save.
zinc talon
Legit got saved by a vet with revive shout
you love to see it like love
every class has their gimmick
but just GET ONYA DAYUM FEET
glossy cloud
Basically, revive shout is more valuable the more chances that you will go down
sullen forge
Dog you'll probably see me push the limits of some of my Vigil builds just to implement Revive shout sometimes lmao
zinc talon
sir I wasn't ready I was sipping my water waiting on a legitimate revive
glossy cloud
so by h40, it actually does garner some real use
zinc talon
fuck it FWAAA THE EMPRAAAA
zinc talon
yknow I've had blessedly good luck with randos in the last call it month
sullen forge
I didn't see the Ogryn buffs aside from Dodge giving 50% DR which is fucking insane
sullen forge
I think that should get toned a bit
zinc talon
like before I can even shitting on the voice comms someone else is furiously trying to coordinate
and not in a bad way I'm just like WELP YESSIR THIS GUY
sullen forge
Scum Pickpocket nerf is good cause it makes them actually have to play Melee for once
zinc talon
first step, max stamina
second step, forget you maxed stmina and die to a sneeze
third step, get a bonesaw and live life like a new person on the speed inceases on the rip/saw
void bison
glossy cloud
maxing stam is fun in havoc ngl
glossy cloud
if you don't let yourself get caught slipping
zinc talon
I mean I joke to my pugs that 'just gonna tell yall I didn't spend any time maxing my health beyond a single point'
'cuz I won't need anything beyond that anyawy'
glossy cloud
which is why i wouldn't recommend doing it because it is very punishing
but
if you can handle that
zinc talon
yeah exactly, don't uh Get Caught Slipping
just Dont Let Them Hit YOu
it works til it don't
sullen forge
Oh huh
zinc talon
it's wonderful, esp going far right with blinders
sullen forge
Ogryn Ripper Bayo is now Classified as a heavy attack
zinc talon
put the entire room on its ass, with ten seconds to live
sullen forge
so all Heavy attack talents will apply to it
zinc talon
okri photographed drooling jealously from the corner of the room
glossy cloud
Ogryn Ripper Bayo is now Classified as a heavy attack
Oh this is a really nice change
sullen forge
Also Across the board ADM buffs and Buffs to Twinks
zinc talon
Oh this is a really nice change
is it now
sullen forge
Heavy Hitter Bayonet sounds fucking dumb as hell I wont lie
zinc talon
yknow the one that HASNT been changed you all need to enjoy
sullen forge
lmao
zinc talon
the one blessing for grenade gauntlet, the generic one that's rounds in the air increases damage done
glossy cloud
Maybe niche but, still a nice change.
zinc talon
you can swing in the air closing to a fight and have the GG doing 2505 20052 TWO HANDRD FIDDY DAMMIJ per swing
sullen forge
Dual Stub Pistols are getting a buff?
???
I thought they were fine lmao
They were like my go too Ranged choice on Scum
glossy cloud
i think they got an adm improvement on carapace
sullen forge
Yeah listening to it
glossy cloud
which
zinc talon
you can threeshot crushers reliably and twoshot more than a little bit of the time
glossy cloud
is actually quite nice
sullen forge
ILAS buffs are fucking insane though
zinc talon
with a grenade gauntlet
sullen forge
you might catch me using ILAS for a month
zinc talon
in melee
glossy cloud
Ogryn 2: Electric Boogaloo
sullen forge
Sounds like the 2b might be fucking insane for an in-n-out sharp shooter type playstyle
zinc talon
I got so excited
sullen forge
VII and XI I need to test with
sullen forge
Going over the Twinks again its
zinc talon
seeing what I wanted to has gotten me this far in life, I have no intention of hcanging going forward
sullen forge
overall ADM buffs + Overall Damage increase to all variants
So overall just more damage
cause you're dealing more damage against armor types ontop of increased base damage
Probably use the Grog Twin Link more with this change
zinc talon
sullen forge
Power Falchion's buff feels very- nothing burger to me I wont lie
but I'll take it over nothing
zinc talon
it's economic inflation in a bladed form
sullen forge
Just means I have to use the strictly power only mode version
zinc talon
nobody's complaining about it, and why not keep it that way give it %5 and idk let's get crazy 7% over there too
sullen forge
Paul Special CD reduced from 8s -> 6s
sullen forge
this just enables my incredibly gimmicky build
No, this 17th when the update drops
aka in 2 days
sullen forge
Also new bladed momentum
zinc talon
okri's talents were chosen the literal day they changed
sullen forge
Also new bladed momentum
I still dont see much of a use for it seeing this doesn't adress the issue of taking it in the first place
sullen forge
@glossy cloud Shit did you see the Heavy Sword "Rework"
Looking over it I might pick it up with Veteran
sullen forge
Special attack is being given a 10% brittleness on hit
zinc talon
https://tenor.com/view/no-i-didn't-zac-zatima-i-did-not-do-that-bet-networks-gif-2698647186774092632
hexed igloo
I would like to commission you for a series of increasingly shitty 'artistic' w...
Go on
It'll be shitty
sullen forge
which is unique and can stack on top of other sources
hexed igloo
I can't draw for shit
sullen forge
Bro what the fuck are these Heavy Sword buffs
zinc talon
nonsense cuz heavy sword is nonsense
hexed igloo
Best I can do is microwave
zinc talon
it is 100% deficient in chainsaws
and therefore forever a stunted design
plus I don't like copy pastes from vt2 and that's exactly what HS is
from kerillian's one handed two handed sword
ok ok ok it has three variants it's more varied than that
not steppin on toes here
(but it sucks)
sullen forge
Actually holy shit Bladed Momentum might have value now with Heavy Sword's new properties wtf
zinc talon
what did they change tho
is it still a headshot or you're deadshot crit finesse only thing
sullen forge
Light follow up after special has hitmass ignore kinda like perfect strike baked into it
so Carapace walls
glossy cloud
<@109528432425062400> Shit did you see the Heavy Sword "Rework"
I am so ready for new heavy sword
sullen forge
will not cuck you out of it
zinc talon
hm
glossy cloud
Being able to sprint during your attacks seamlessly
glossy cloud
That was the change that really caught me
sullen forge
Not even mentioning the Special Brittle you can apply
thats unique
so I can instantly see its Value on Vet
glossy cloud
what did they change tho
Basically, the duration is better but the rending is slightly worse
lunar fable
This info is on youtube isn't it
carmine lance
<@109528432425062400> Shit did you see the Heavy Sword "Rework"
where can I find this?
sullen forge
zinc talon
seconded
glossy cloud
I legit saw someone on reddit crying about how heavy sword was getting nerfed 😭
carmine lance
yup!
glossy cloud
Like my good individual, you're literally ignoring a majority of the damn story here.
lunar fable
I see a plasma timestamp
zinc talon
I legit saw someone on reddit crying about how heavy sword was getting nerfed 😭
cutting the cord on reddit specifically has nine of ten doctors agreeing you'll still die at the same rate but oh my god is life so much better without it
lunar fable
about time
zinc talon
the tenth doctor was busy dying xhe./xhr hair blue and thus couldnh'jt reply
sullen forge
ILAS Got an INSANE glow up
glossy cloud
cutting the cord on reddit specifically has nine of ten doctors agreeing you'll ...
I was curious because I wanted to see the reactions to the pickpocket "nerf"
lunar fable
When I played plasma wayyy back I only used charged shots
sullen forge
You'll probably see a shit ton of Ilas vets
hell
you might see ILAS 2b on other classes
lunar fable
Is the xii back on the menu
zinc talon
not to poke fun at anyone even remotely close to any of those things
zinc talon
lunar fable
sullen forge
Ogryn's are eating pretty damn good also
zinc talon
reddit is second only to the official dark tide DORKTARD forums for finding takes so hot they could fuel earth's entire energy needs for the next century
sullen forge
VOC nerf and buff
zinc talon
Replacement
lunar fable
Been sleeping past 3am for the past week 
sullen forge
base VOC CD Increased to 40 seconds
zinc talon
when is that important, I cannot find a situation
sullen forge
but Revive Shout has all previous Negatives removed
zinc talon
when is shooting through targets with a different gun than a gun that already shoots through targets like, worth the point
sullen forge
when is that important, I cannot find a situation
Handful of moments I've had with Veteran
usually Elite hordes
zinc talon
okay I'm here for it
zinc talon
space marine 2 has a bolter category weapon perk that lets you hit through things too
I scoffed, I tried, I admitted it'll stay
so I can see the potential, I guess
I'll let the rando on the team show me through damage done first hto
sullen forge
Holy shit the reworked my favorite abysmal dogshit Keystone
zinc talon
I already reliably come in fourth like fuckin clockwork
I don't need any help doing less
oh god damnit I forgot to call my dude on the way home from the bar
I shall return
sullen forge
I might use this on Arby I wont lie
this is generally so free
Play the game for Toughness Generation
- added benefit of keeping your team topped off
sharp willow
Play the game for Toughness Generation
That's Arby summarized
sullen forge
Oh yeah that was just Forceful and Execution in general as well
sharp willow
If you fart, you get toughness regen 
sullen forge
they just made Terminus finally actually good and worth it
glossy nimbus
If you fart, you get toughness regen <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
hot...
I think I might just start hunting penances.
sharp willow
I just kind of unlock penances by accident
stuck thicket
lord forgive me
glossy nimbus
the lord will not btw
sharp willow
lord forgive me
Has anyone compared her design with Geralt yet?
sullen forge
Reminder if there's an Enemy Seven hunt these highlighted areas and do not let him breath
ever
This is coming from a Seven/Sinclair main
sharp willow
This is coming from a Seven/Sinclair main
Sinclairs either do nothing or carry the game, no inbetween
sullen forge
Its funny how drastic it can be
sometimes I feel like im carrying the entire team
others I feel like im just an empty slot simply existing
Though its really funny doing the Secret Chinese Sinclair Build (Veil Walker + Magic Carpet)
Jumpscare their poor Spirit Hero for their ult and immediately use it on them
sterile basalt
Ogryn's are eating pretty damn good also
are they?
the weapon changes are meh
talent changes good yea
zinc talon
'
zinc talon
who let my ex girlfriend write these canticles
sullen forge
from a 1s CD to .75s
zinc talon
I DIDNT CHEAT OKAY IT WAS INTERNATIONAL MARITIME LAW
sullen forge
and Crunch is now 15% to 30% for both
zinc talon
THE LAWS GET HAZY FIVE HUNDRED MILES INTO THE ATLANTIC
sullen forge
which is- pretty good honestly
sterile basalt
and Crunch is now 15% to 30% for both
don't think it's enough to matter
holding heavy atk playstyle just isn't that good
sullen forge
Ammo Vacuum ability being slightly less of an Ammo Vacuum
sterile basalt
if the 15% DR while charging heavy atk talent merged with this maybe it'll be better
lunar fable
Lol stub pistol adm buff
stuck thicket
Has anyone compared her design with Geralt yet?
thats an insult to the nation of poland
lunar fable
Didn't expect that
sterile basalt
Slam
slam buff good but slam has never been a requirement on any build
it's just a good pathing talent
the main impact bonus is still from ogryn's 1 good keystone
sullen forge
Only other thing I can think of is their Weapons overall just getting Adjustments and their new baked in passive being 50% DR on dodge which lingers for .25s after
Veteran got overall more just good Ability changes
kinda praying Withering is just FS being FS and its actually like hitmass or something more cause 50% Ranged Cleave might not be enough
sullen forge
Not yet
hearty nebula
oh
sullen forge
there's a vid discussing the changes
signal spoke
PBB Changes are pretty insane but they buffed an already good Talent
Steady grip, crunch
hearty nebula
screencaps from vid then
idk unless cole makes a vid or somethin i'll just wait for actual patchnotes
signal spoke
Hank post a video of it
sterile basalt
Only other thing I can think of is their Weapons overall just getting Adjustment...
the twinlink buffs are very minor, moving it from a D tier gun into a C tier gun
nowhere close to being good still
hearty nebula
@true kindle post vid im not hunting down your channel
sterile basalt
and ripper gun only change is the bayonet atk
sharp willow
Hank post a video of it
What's the summary?
sullen forge
its really good looking
signal spoke
<@132623566368669696> post vid im not hunting down your channel
Brother it takes one second to type Hank Darktide on YouTube
signal spoke
What's the summary?
Good food
signal spoke
I love gummy
sullen forge
I already liked it but like Special Light follow up now having the Ignore Hitmass is
pretty fucking crazy
hearty nebula
also yeah I heard hsword was getting changed and
I heard brittle application on special attack
and nutted
signal spoke
and ripper gun only change is the bayonet atk
At least will now allow to stack HH with heavies (still very niche special action)
hearty nebula
Hsword my fuccking beloved
sullen forge
I already liked it but like Special Light follow up now having the Ignore Hitmas...
Gives just barely enough value to consider picking up Bladed Momentum also cause of it having this change, again idk im going to test this out come the 17th
hexed igloo
I'm so sad Arby can't run knife this is fucked
signal spoke
True
sullen forge
New Bladed Momentum btw
sterile basalt
What's the summary?
rock & frag have instakill triggers
indomitable has forced stagger
ogryn gains 50% DR during and for 0.25s after dodge
slam CD reduced from 1 to 0.75s
crunch max dmg bonus buffed from 15% to 30%
PBB refund 50% of the ammo used while it's active
steady grip & mobile emplacement's effects activate while shooting
twinlink gets dmg, ADM & spread accuracy buff (not enough to make it actually good, but better than before)
ripper's bayonet atk will now count as heavy atk
power maul's special CD reduced from 12 to 10s
hearty nebula
New Bladed Momentum btw
hmm
signal spoke
I am honestly quite hyped for arbites new changes
sullen forge
hmm
Keep in mind Special Light follow up has Ignore Carapace cleave so it will glide against cara
hearty nebula
Keep in mind Special Light follow up has Ignore Carapace cleave so it will glide...
guh
signal spoke
Finally I get to use something that is not BTL and forceful
sterile basalt
New Bladed Momentum btw
seems rly niche cuz headtaker is still +40% str and deathblow still exists
hearty nebula
i only see hank vid for ogryn changes
ogryn does not hsword
where is the rest of this
give
sullen forge
hearty nebula
fuck
hexed igloo
I am honestly quite hyped for arbites new changes
Changes?
signal spoke
Literally above
hexed igloo
Literally above
Cbf watching ts
hearty nebula
i don't use ilas
sullen forge
2b is having a huge glow up and might be good on other classes now I wont lie
hearty nebula
i use pistol and the charge ones that i forget what are called off the top of my head
sterile basalt
biggest weapon buffs are prob inf las and TH?
hearty nebula
and boltgun on vet
sullen forge
Zealot ILAS gameplay perchance?
hexed igloo
Castigator stance got changed to have less DR but now grants 20% strength
Oh that's solid actually
signal spoke
Terminus warrant has been reworked to be like cheap weapon specialists
sterile basalt
2b is having a huge glow up and might be good on other classes now I wont lie
I think new best inf las is either IX or VII
sterile basalt
IX just for that massive dmg/ammo efficiency
hearty nebula
i never use anything but boltgun on zealot
sullen forge
I think new best inf las is either IX or VII
Recoil got dampened heavily but I need to see it for myself on 2b
The other 2 sound like they maintained their recoil
sterile basalt
if the muzzle flash unchanged, IX wins
sterile basalt
The other 2 sound like they maintained their recoil
which were already extremely low in the first place
signal spoke
Will the new inf lasgun gonna be efficient for exec stance vet?
sullen forge
Yes
sterile basalt
Will the new inf lasgun gonna be efficient for exec stance vet?
yes
sullen forge
absolutely
signal spoke
I could not see much difference with the video of zealot using it
sterile basalt
currently stance is roughly equal to VoC
sullen forge
and Infil
sterile basalt
next update VoC CD nerf to 40s
sullen forge
I'd argue from glimpse they're all now on Equal Terms
sterile basalt
so yea stance prob better overall
signal spoke
I appreciate they removed thr downsides of Only death does duty end
sterile basalt
I'd argue from glimpse they're all now on Equal Terms
nah it's stance > VoC > infil
signal spoke
Shut
signal spoke
Yeah
sterile basalt
infil's only redeeming quality is needing no subnodes so u get 1 extra point
signal spoke
Finally no more piss bar
sullen forge
Honestly yeah
signal spoke
In screaming at people
sullen forge
Finally no more piss bar
You can combo the two still
shy hull
VOC is still millions of miles ahead of infiltrate and stance
sullen forge
but like its on the class that kinda needs that extra point
signal spoke
Wait can you?
shy hull
It's not even remotely close
sterile basalt
lol
shy hull
Like, VOC still makes you unkillable for 15 sec AND apply to your allies
sullen forge
VOC is still millions of miles ahead of infiltrate and stance
I dont think you understand the sheer and utter BS that is the Toughness Generation from EStance
shy hull
I dont think you understand the sheer and utter BS that is the Toughness Generat...
I don't think you understand how insanely stupid broken gold tgh is
Especially on the WHOLE TEAM
stuck thicket
I HATE EVERYTHINBG ABOUT SILVER
lunar fable
nah it's stance > VoC > infil
+1 duration is kinda nice
sullen forge
Imagine this though pairing it with Born Leader and just being a Toughness battery thats basically active nearly all match
sterile basalt
+1 duration is kinda nice
it's not a big deal
stuck thicket
THIS CHARACTER WAS DESIGNED FOR GOYIM INCAPABLE OF PLAYING ANYTHING THAT ISNT A CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE WOMAN
sullen forge
vs doing it every now 40 seconds
sterile basalt
just the fact that VoC CD nerf makes stance pull ahead
cuz current stance alrdy roughly equal to VoC
signal spoke
The other day I was playing stance and was doing big numbers and toughness regen making me nearly unkillable
I used VoC later then I learned how greedy it makes you
sullen forge
Its honestly interesting
sterile basalt
vet has worst CDR of all classes
signal spoke
vet has worst CDR of all classes
Good
sullen forge
deserved cause VOC has been King of Vet Abils
But Infil changes are- rather interesting
might see me using it more
sterile basalt
The other day I was playing stance and was doing big numbers and toughness regen...
stance allows u to take fights u can't take on any other class and walk away with no chip lol
sullen forge
So full of Giant Walls
shy hull
vs doing it every now 40 seconds
40 sec base CD is very different from "once per 40 sec" in this game with a ton of CDR
true kindle
VoC problem was always how spammable it was. Now its not very spammable anymore, which makes its power level when active more reasonable.
signal spoke
True
sullen forge
30 seconds on EStance + CDR and very easy maintain time
shy hull
It'll add like 5 actual sec of waiting time on it
sullen forge
like if you're a good veteran main its never going down
shy hull
So it'll be a bit less spammable but it's honestly a tap not a big nerf
true kindle
are very different games
Are you discovering that only now?
zinc talon
well it's not my fucking fault why are these randos all so sober
sullen forge
Should've been a Golden Nerf also tbh
signal spoke
hearty nebula
withering fire...?
sterile basalt
10s gold (countered by certain enemies) + at best 10s downtime (usually longer)
vs
lol regain 40% toughness per second
true kindle
I came to the same realisation in 2023
zinc talon
Are you discovering that only now?
I have missed you sir how have you been
sullen forge
withering fire...?
Im Indifferent to it but I like the idea
signal spoke
Should've been a Golden Nerf also tbh
Should have been a golden removal
sullen forge
it might need to be buffed in the future cause it might be another nothing burger talent
true kindle
When I stopped drinking while playing and noticed how much more actively cognisant I was about my gameplay
hearty nebula
Im Indifferent to it but I like the idea
I will be eating good as an exe stance enjoyer
sullen forge
but it has a good idea
shy hull
Yeah, unless they make VOC like 60 sec CD or something it's just impossible to compete with the utility of 50 gold tgh on the entire team for 15 sec
sterile basalt
Yeah, unless they make VOC like 60 sec CD or something it's just impossible to c...
10s
zinc talon
10s gold (countered by certain enemies) + at best 10s downtime (usually longer)
...
regaining silly amounts of toughness per second and literally choosing to go out there and soak ranged fire has been my MO since day...
call it twelve idk I'm a lil
true kindle
I have missed you sir how have you been
I've been good! Just busy with life 🙂 and most of my DT time was spent in the playtest discord
sullen forge
I will be eating good as an exe stance enjoyer
Well I mean Gab Estance come this next update is literally the Better option now
zinc talon
I've been good! Just busy with life 🙂 and most of my DT time was spent in the p...
are you excited about what's coming down the pike?
sullen forge
Across the Board buffs on the nodes + Lower CD than VOC
shy hull
My point still stand though, 40 sec still allow for far too much uptime
sullen forge
like its just better LMAO
sterile basalt
It's 10 ? mb then, I must've confused the duration with something else
it's been 10 since nerf back in 1.9 I think
zinc talon
god that woman looks like AI a decade before AI knew how to make women like that
signal spoke
This update be cooking a lot with balance changes but still is sad not much of new content besides tbe new gamemode
shy hull
it's been 10 since nerf back in 1.9 I think
That's why I remmebered 15 okay
hearty nebula
Well I mean Gab Estance come this next update is literally the Better option now
Good
I love exe stance & mmf
sterile basalt
so 10s buff, 40s CD
with tac awareness (which is the worst CDR talent in the game) u get at best 20s CD
if u run triple CD reduction curio perk it's like 17.6s
zinc talon
I've been good! Just busy with life 🙂 and most of my DT time was spent in the p...
I'm glad to hear it, actual life is ten times better than sitting here all day you can tell them I said it and you only agreed in spirit before you 3-strikes-you're-out'd me
signal spoke
They still do not wish to overhaul the krouk Twin linked smh
signal spoke
But they finally buffed the inf lasgun
sterile basalt
But they finally buffed the inf lasgun
I think it could have been buffed more
zinc talon
well lemme just say I am super stoked
from what I've heard this next installment is gonna be
what chaos wastes did to vermintide plus
plus plus plus
signal spoke
I think it could have been buffed more
Always better than before like how it was Power maul
hearty nebula
The HSword changes are looking good
shy hull
so 10s buff, 40s CD
with tac awareness (which is the worst CDR talent in the gam...
So up to more than 50% uptime on the most broken defensive mechanic of the game, applied to 1 to 4 characters each time : It's still very massive
sterile basalt
Always better than before like how it was Power maul
it'll be way better than what we have now, but it could have been made better
zinc talon
glad to hear you're doin well Hank, you love to see it
shy hull
Like the two other ults are solid now but VOC is still very much broken
sterile basalt
So up to more than 50% uptime on the most broken defensive mechanic of the game,...
yea it'll still be powerful
don't think it's as good as stance next update tho
true kindle
They still do not wish to overhaul the krouk Twin linked smh
It got a lot of buffs but it needs the recoil jank fixed, that was a separate conversation. I've made the devs aware though and prepared some injectable lua with Agayek so whenever there is time I'll keep pestering them about it
sterile basalt
stance is just smth else
sullen forge
The HSword changes are looking good
Veteran and Zealot mains can come to agree on one thing, we both benefit from the rework
signal spoke
it'll be way better than what we have now, but it could have been made better
We shall receive another (minor) buff in next year
sterile basalt
We shall receive another (minor) buff in next year
I think them choosing no flak ADM buff for inf las is either silly or misjudgment
signal spoke
One day we will get to see it, krourk twink just has the better audio design but is so bad to play
hearty nebula
Veteran and Zealot mains can come to agree on one thing, we both benefit from th...
ilas changes are looking good too
zinc talon
that's almost real time
hearty nebula
Literally my main gripe is that they didn't have quite enough adm
and they were a smidge too ammo hungry
sullen forge
Across the board ammo buffs
hearty nebula
Though the fuckass recoil
sullen forge
Efficiency was buffed
sterile basalt
Veteran and Zealot mains can come to agree on one thing, we both benefit from th...
I thought the agreement was "psyker op"
hearty nebula
I hate the recoil on them
zinc talon
that had to be bluescreend greensfcr FAKE COLOR TELLYVISIONnow that I've seen it loop
sullen forge
I thought the agreement was "psyker op"
Well that also
zinc talon
no way some asshole straight drew that
hearty nebula
I thought the agreement was "psyker op"
Well that one will just be universally true for forever
sterile basalt
Psyker got more nerfs than buffs thank god
the nerfs are far too conservative
we shud nerf psyker toughness from 125 to 50
this will fix darktide
shy hull
As long as they don't touch the DOT build I don't think it'll do much tbh
sullen forge
Truth nuke
true kindle
https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr...
This is what Agayek managed to make by combining the Gorgonum and achlys recoil values for the Krourk
Now I don't think FS will just copy paste that value remix into the game but it's a good proof of concept
zinc talon
how hard is he standing up and leaning into countering that recoi-oh he isn't at all
sterile basalt
As long as they don't touch the DOT build I don't think it'll do much tbh
no, nerfing their toughness from 125 to 50 will absolutely change how the class is played, in very significant ways
signal spoke
This is what Agayek managed to make by combining the Gorgonum and achlys recoil ...
I honestly dig with that
sullen forge
Bunch of other small ones
signal spoke
I was more on to think of change that the recoil and spread gets tighter thr longer you hold fire
sterile basalt
I hope TH buff is actually good
sullen forge
Falchion buffs kinda upset me
hearty nebula
I hope TH buff is actually good
isnt it just maniac adm or smth
sullen forge
With how little was changed
true kindle
I was more on to think of change that the recoil and spread gets tighter thr lon...
That would definitely make it unique but idk if we can swing it
sterile basalt
isnt it just maniac adm or smth
yes but that's the thing it struggles with the most
zinc talon
I was more on to think of change that the recoil and spread gets tighter thr lon...
ah, the borderlands reverse recoil
sterile basalt
I think also powered atk first target dmg?
zinc talon
very exotic, very expensive
sterile basalt
forgot
zinc talon
throw the gun when you run outta ammo and it doubles as the thing they hang on your tombstone after they kill you
true kindle
With how little was changed
I think this is because falchion is already close to being good so wild swings are undesirable.
sullen forge
It struggles a lot with shit I’m surprised it wasn’t just ADM tweaks cause that was a relatively easy fix
hearty nebula
🚬
signal spoke
ah, the borderlands *reverse* recoil
Hyperion weapons real in darktide
sterile basalt
power falchion
no change to IIb's H1 sweep getting ignore stagger reduction (still get fked by ragers)
no atk speed changes (still need TFD and isn't fast)
no base atk changes (unpowered atks will still be dogshit)
no heat gauge changes (still long CD downtime where the weapon is dogshit)
sullen forge
^ general summary also
true kindle
I think also powered atk first target dmg?
First target Maniac ADM for 4 of the different profiles
hearty nebula
no change to IIb's H1 sweep getting ignore stagger reduction (still get fked by ...
yeah ik
they only changed it's first target damage
true kindle
From 0.5 to 0.75 broadly speaking
sterile basalt
From 0.5 to 0.75 broadly speaking
is this just attack or also impact
and why still <1
true kindle
Damage modifier, so not impact
true kindle
and why still <1
I don't remember. Don't care about zealot stuff
sterile basalt
one day they'll make TH a functional weapon
signal spoke
Also now we got packmaster and they modelled the weapon, make it to ogryn arsenal and lore reason being just looted it from the dead bodies
sterile basalt
I like when the weapon with high stagger across the board randomly has a 0.5x maniac ADM which specifically makes it dogshit vs dreg rager cuz no stagger
signal spoke
(we will still never get a 2H hammer)
sterile basalt
we will get power axe after they make falchion good (in 4 years time surely)
signal spoke
Dead hope so
hearty nebula
give me the poweraxe
true kindle
Is there a humansized power axe variant?
true kindle
I thought that was an Astartes weapon
royal cape
I don't remember. Don't care about zealot stuff
The certified ogryn main
Harassing zealots in their domain.
Lmao
signal spoke
The next class dropping next update with also a large arsenal addition for existing classes in same would be the greatest
sullen forge
Is there a humansized power axe variant?
There was one model that leaked last year in Feb
true kindle
Oh yeah. That
sterile basalt
Is there a humansized power axe variant?
yea ofc
misty nova
2 handed Chainaxe next upgrade but they have the same performance as bonesaw
hearty nebula
#nevr4get
misty nova
Also isn't Rashad inspired on a power axe?
sterile basalt
2h chainaxe exclusive to zealot
poweraxe vet/zealot share
hearty nebula
Die
sterile basalt
dewit FS
signal spoke
hearty nebula
Make it exclusive to arbites as a prank
sullen forge
2h chainaxe exclusive to zealot
poweraxe vet/zealot share
2H Chainaxe
sullen forge
I would be perfectly fine with being exclusive to Zeal
sterile basalt
I would be perfectly fine with being exclusive to Zeal
yea
they first need to make 1 (yes, one) good chain weapon as a start tho
sullen forge
Single
sterile basalt
hearty nebula
i like every chain weapon except for chainsword
sullen forge
misty nova
Totally not biased
hearty nebula
on like every aspect
sullen forge
i like every chain weapon *except* for chainsword
Chainsword is like Falchion
sterile basalt
the closest thing to a good chain weapon is chainaxe 12
sullen forge
Potential man of melees
sullen forge
If and Can but never is
hearty nebula
Chainsword is like Falchion
at least falchion can do hordes at a decent pace
sterile basalt
chainsword does horde better than falchion
misty nova
if it did evis XV's activated heavy dmg
#theyallwantobevis15
hearty nebula
fuckin i don't know why but chainsword just feels like it chugs at it
misty nova
sullen forge
at least falchion can do hordes at a decent pace
Normal hordes
sterile basalt
at least chainsword doesn't run out of juice every 15s or so
hearty nebula
dunnae
sullen forge
Mixed hordes on the other hand
hearty nebula
i just have better time with falchion than chainsword in general
misty nova
fuckin i don't know why but chainsword just feels like it *chugs* at it
Likely the 4 to 8 cleave
While falchion gets 10.5 powered
sullen forge
Chaxe fucking obliterates on Vet shockingly
sterile basalt
#theyallwantobevis15
evis XV only good thing is the special activated heavy
hearty nebula
im exclusively calling the chainsword the chud now
sterile basalt
overwhelmingly ass otherwise
sullen forge
im exclusively calling the chainsword the chud now
I mean it basically is a chud
Useless
hearty nebula
it does nothing....
misty nova
overwhelmingly ass otherwise
Lalalaalala can't hear you over the sound of vroom vroom
hearty nebula
ever...
sullen forge
Reminisces on the glory days
Back when IT was good
If and Can but never is or will
signal spoke
im exclusively calling the chainsword the chud now
I thought it has been named chud since it's release
sullen forge
Potential Melee
sterile basalt
Chaxe fucking obliterates on Vet shockingly
chainaxe 12 + boltgun 3 with frags on stance vet is actually peak
signal spoke
(it always have been chud)
misty nova
Smaul buffs one day 🚬
sullen forge
Already did chud..
sterile basalt
shock maul is just failed stats
much like falchion
yk it could be good if it didn't randomly had x0.5 maniac stagger ADM
but ofc FS loves their x0.5 maniac stagger ADMs
sullen forge
State mandated
Noticing how a lot of weapons are actually held back by low Maniac modifiers
sterile basalt
it's both dmg and stagger ADM
signal spoke
Already did chud..
We should name all bad weapons as chuds
misty nova
Chud mk1 and so on
sullen forge
We should name all bad weapons as chuds
modest kernel
Hello newbie here i ve seen a guide suggesting playing with duellist sword is it outdated ?isee nobody playing with it in vidz
hearty nebula
yeah because it's boring
signal spoke
Hello newbie here i ve seen a guide suggesting playing with duellist sword is i...
because it is a boring melee with bad horde clear
sullen forge
Very glad to see we still hate the Dueling Sword
stuck thicket
Hello newbie here i ve seen a guide suggesting playing with duellist sword is i...
duelling sword is the most overrated weapon in this game
glossy nimbus
Hello newbie here i ve seen a guide suggesting playing with duellist sword is i...
its a boring meta weapon
glossy nimbus
combat knife has better horde clear
stuck thicket
combat knife has better horde clear
well not like thats a high bar to clear anyway
anyway
holy shit i love tactical axe
glossy nimbus
pocket toxin blinders ough
on scum?
stuck thicket
yes
stuck thicket
Im yet to use it in mission w scum
its like shivs if they didnt need cleave nodes due to brutal momentum
misty nova
Hello newbie here i ve seen a guide suggesting playing with duellist sword is i...
Dueling Sword still a top tier melee weapon
Feel free to play it
sharp gull
Shivs my beloved
stuck thicket
duelling sword is only a top tier melee when you barely need to use melee
sharp gull
Psyker
glossy nimbus
dueling sword is a great weapon but if you use it even once a man will enter your home, use your toilet, and not flush.
for a whole year.
glossy nimbus
are you willing to bear the curse tho
misty nova
He either get comfortable and his skills drop
Or he notice he's building a bad habit and break out of it
Let's fucking go
sharp gull
I heard my beloved shivs getting a nerf and the mark poo is getting a buff
misty nova
glossy nimbus
He either get comfortable and his skills drop
Or he notice he's building a bad h...
ppl get too comfortable playing w those shit weapons ngl
sterile basalt
I heard my beloved shivs getting a nerf and the mark poo is getting a buff
yes but not a big deal
sharp gull
Not that it'll SUPER matter since it seems its only halving cleave
glossy nimbus
i rather someone become glued to dclaw and actually learn the game
glossy nimbus
SHOOTS YOU SHOOTS YOU SHOOTS YOU SHOOTS YOU
swift hearth
bruh I just replayed RE Village DLC and RE Requiem
Are the Japanese trying to learn how to become American by depicting American parent, and American Child, and American John Wick (American; btw)
misty nova
frosty herald
Stabby shivs are getting a cleave reduction sweeping shivs get a damage increase on heavies
misty nova
Don't got it
sharp gull
Stabby shivs are getting a cleave reduction sweeping shivs get a damage increase...
It wont change anything 3:
sharp gull
Stabby shivs will still be superior
glossy nimbus
https://tenor.com/view/muscle-man-regular-show-gif-6005774764256121739
normal regular show episode
sterile basalt
rashad will still reign supreme
misty nova
What the hell is Regular Show even about 🗣️
glossy nimbus
guide
sharp gull
I just hope the blessings arent super juggled for my scum build
misty nova
sharp gull
you agree that dueling sword is bad right
It is an easy to use good weapon last I checked
narrow mauve
Petal you're saying nonsense again. @glossy nimbus
sharp gull
Not that I got to use it alot
I mastered it and moved on
To mastering other garbage
misty nova
If you said any other melee I'd be like yeah I can see that
But dclaw?!?!?! Aw hell nah
sharp gull
At what
glossy nimbus
basically everything
sharp gull
Does everything include crushers
sharp gull
U can
glossy nimbus
ok but hear me out
sharp gull
Listening
glossy nimbus
lies by mass media
glossy nimbus
Followed by knife
and dclaw is at the top I see
sharp gull
I like fast stabby pokey do you know what dclaw is not
misty nova
Names killer and the favorites are knives
#nooticing
glossy nimbus
I like fast stabby pokey do you know what dclaw is not
you kill everything
misty nova
Except flak
ivory canyon
and dclaw is at the top I see
If you flip the list upside down
glossy nimbus
the dclaw is the best weapon in game none of you have realized it yet
when you see it, youll be enlightened
sharp gull
best for uprising difficulty at level 1
glossy nimbus
oneshotting crushers maulers left and right...
glossy nimbus
best for uprising difficulty at level 1
best for havoc 40
sharp gull
good thing i will be doing expeditions and not havoc 40
carmine lance
ragebaiting is fun lmao
i love how seven threw in that "politely" at the end though lol
sharp gull
ragebaiting is fun lmao
@glossy nimbus
I have had enough "dclaw" to go without ever using it again
It is mastered
I return to shiv
carmine lance
skill issue 
mellow osprey
why my spearhead boltgun has 12/84 ammo instead of 15/90 ammo?
sharp gull
good doorman
ragebaiting in that game is best part
I had a vindicta who I called a bird all game and knocked them down
misty nova
oneshotting crushers maulers left and right...
misty nova
why my spearhead boltgun has 12/84 ammo instead of 15/90 ammo?
Not 80% ammo
Or you're using mk3
glossy cloud
<@415075981456572436>
dclaw is so good on scum though 😭
sharp gull
and they were trying to get on me about graves being shit and or easy and then I see them coming to my lane again and then they emmediately run away I call them a coward they say ok bet they come back emmediately ult and I still murdered them >:3
hearty nebula
skill issue <:Clueless:1360804298002530514>
skull issue*
sharp gull
dclaw is so good on scum though 😭
shivs
misty nova
Although I have no idea about the actual ammo difference between the two
mellow osprey
Or you're using mk3
can I change it to mk2?
sharp gull
Never had a problem against dense hordes
carmine lance
I had a vindicta who I called a bird all game and knocked them down
lmfao
hearty nebula
shiv struggle against dense hordes
they'll be even worse next update
misty nova
can I change it to mk2?
On your inventory, top right corner
hearty nebula
shiv cleave getting nerfed