#zealot-class

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violet hornet
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Slop check Stan

hushed knoll
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Blab

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Hi

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I don’t make slop

violet hornet
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Wat you cookin

lunar fable
hushed knoll
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Chicken

deft badge
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Stan's genetic lineage has coalesce to give him an iron gut and no taste buds, I think.

hushed knoll
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I have taste

chrome wave
violet hornet
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Just a little culinary war crime nbd

deft badge
hushed knoll
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I have food taste

deft badge
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There's a mf in the US Prison system rn cooking something out of prison snacks off a built fire system and it looks more appetizing than that.

hushed knoll
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I made bread

deft badge
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Yk I'll give it to you man, that might be the best looking food product I've ever seen you post.

heady rapids
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you're not wrong

south prism
hexed igloo
tranquil bone
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Extremely reasonable bread actually

hexed igloo
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That's bread right therr

misty nova
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I don't even know what you guys are looking at

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It's not that bad looking.

misty nova
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Oh
Alright

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Bread thumbsup_ogryn

violet hornet
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Yeah it actually does look like a pretty ordinary bread

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I'm assuming this is before he soaks it in milk, sour cream, or ranch to get it nice and sloppy before he eats it

wheat matrix
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lets be real

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it's probably all three

violet hornet
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I think certain ranch recipes do use both sour cream and milk so that checks out

deft badge
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Me go cook now

violet hornet
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Stan got you feeling inspired huh

deft badge
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Nah

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I meal prep chicken once a week

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Cause cheap+effective protein

violet hornet
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True lol

misty nova
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That's actually true

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Maybe Stan knows what he's doing

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.....

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......

heady rapids
carmine falcon
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that's sick asf

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tbhg i cant wait until sm2 support is over

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so i can go full mods mode

misty nova
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Finally
Let's beef with an Apothecary Blueberry

violet hornet
heady rapids
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@solar gorge how do yo usave a steam recording

narrow mauve
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I'm shaking what all over the what now?

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What the fuck else is it supposed to be?

south prism
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wao

heady rapids
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thanks

narrow mauve
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hi @south prism

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how are you

south prism
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hateful

narrow mauve
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can i help with that in any way

heady rapids
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@frosty herald @ivory marlin new prefix

south prism
narrow mauve
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Because if it was truly everyone, it would include you and me.

narrow mauve
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And I can't kill anyone if I'm dead.

south prism
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cool video

hexed igloo
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Imagine being direct impacted by a fuckin horse trebuchet

hushed knoll
deft badge
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I want a second opinion on that

hexed igloo
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We lyin in here now huh

heady rapids
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ts is so peak

hushed knoll
heady rapids
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yeah

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i think

upbeat lava
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So favorite random boss I'll start warp spawn

misty nova
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C'mon

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It's written right there

glossy nimbus
plush estuary
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Messmar

glossy nimbus
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Chaos spawn is satisfying to kill yeah

sterile basalt
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relic blade?

fading phoenix
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finally

frosty herald
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yes

misty nova
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What does hot mess even mean in deadlock context

fading phoenix
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i got the relic blade unlocked

glossy nimbus
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Yey

tranquil bone
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All the characters have quirky tags like that

sterile stone
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That kid got wealthy off this shit btw

glossy nimbus
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Good for him

sterile stone
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Saw lil bro posted up in a new Audi R8

sterile basalt
# frosty herald yes

L3 and push atk energized can break rager combo (both are fast) and u can push atk into either single target or horde clear
looping heavy sweep is also quite a bit better for mixed horde clear compared to mk2 having to throw light/push atk in there
and u can start combo with heavy overhead which is also quite a bit better than light overhead for elite breakpoint, esp with martyr

heady rapids
sterile basalt
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the only thing mk2 does better is energized uppercut having crusher stagger by default

fading phoenix
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cant wait to try relic blade

glossy nimbus
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Yea its super fun

sterile basalt
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with martyr 4 stack it's 5 heavy strikedown on crusher weakspot to kill

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mk10 takes 6 atks (4 heavy overhead, 2 light stab)

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but that's assuming no duellist, no crit, no team dmg, no FotF/shroud use

heady rapids
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what if you do the other combo

sterile basalt
heady rapids
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@misty nova

sterile basalt
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with sprint stab?

heady rapids
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nah

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with push into something else

sterile basalt
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if u do any light atk at all on mk2 it's same number of hits as mk10 but u need more heavies

heady rapids
sterile basalt
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so worse

heady rapids
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on mk10

violet hornet
sterile basalt
stuck thicket
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i mean, good for him

stuck thicket
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i too wish i was set for life at like 13

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anyway

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is it a build issue or skill issue that my relic blade kinda sucks at boss damage

misty nova
sterile basalt
stuck thicket
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note taken.

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i was doing it a little differently before

sterile basalt
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I don't get how people play with >0% camera shake in this game

misty nova
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I always state "one of the" because I know there's other single target combos, I just never cared to learn it

misty nova
sterile basalt
# misty nova

this is the same atks being used, u just have more light stab than heavy overhead

stuck thicket
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im kinda compelled to try messing around with mk2 relic

misty nova
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In fact

sterile basalt
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but it needs 4 heavy overheads + 2 light to reach 9750hp I think

misty nova
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I think I watched too many YouTube poops

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And ended up building tolerance to visual noise

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💀

sterile basalt
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camera shake is not visual noise tho

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it's just weird camera movement to convey "strength" behind animations

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but it's not executed well

carmine falcon
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I keep it low

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it feels weird without it

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and too much of it gives me a headache

sterile basalt
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if u have it at like 5~10% u might as well have it off

carmine falcon
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i think it was 20 something not sure

sterile stone
stuck thicket
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im bouta try out laspistol vet

fading phoenix
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am i doing smth wrong i only have 2 wounds and other zealots have like 4

deft badge
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If you run Martyrdom you run more wounds

frosty herald
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cause if theyre running only 4 its a fatmangus build

tranquil bone
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Unless you are running martyrdom two is really all you need.

fading phoenix
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should i run matyrdom then

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i keep on dying with 2

sterile stone
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I mean...

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Marty's whole thing is playing at low hp

deft badge
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Yeah

tranquil bone
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Oh yeah there's that but I doubt they are running into people with a weird high level meta build at this point yet lol

sterile stone
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And if you can't surive at low hp

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You get no value from marty

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If you want brain dead survivability

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Go arbites

fading phoenix
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i have a zealot in my game rn with 6

sterile stone
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Yeah

heady rapids
sterile stone
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He has those wounds not because he needs to go down

heady rapids
sterile stone
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I forgot the payday 2 build

frosty herald
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you dont run martyrdom just to purposfully down

sterile stone
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But it essentially works

violet hornet
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Zero screen shake is for people that fuck on those parchment sheets they put on the beds at the doctor's office

frosty herald
sterile stone
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When you're always teetering near death

frosty herald
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or are you talking about the flask

sterile stone
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I'm talking about the build decks

frosty herald
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im also talking about build decks

sterile stone
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I'm pretty sure its Yakuza

frosty herald
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hmm

misty nova
fading phoenix
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whata that

tranquil bone
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Also just to be clear because it is a common misconception with new players:
More wounds do not make you inherently harder to kill aside from giving you more chances to get back up.
It's just breaking the same amount of HP into smaller chunks

heady rapids
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low hp is berserker skill

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usually paired with anarchist

frosty herald
frosty herald
fading phoenix
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yeah i keep on dying and being captured thats what i mean

heady rapids
sterile stone
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No amount of wounds will change that then

misty nova
sterile stone
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That's just something you're gonna have to learn via game sense

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And that comes with play time

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Any disabler in the game has a audio que when they're about to attack

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It just becomes conditioning to know when to dodge out of their way

misty nova
fading phoenix
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idk how to build that

sterile stone
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The only way I've seen as to how to stop a disabler is to charge them with an ability

misty nova
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It's basically my faith is my shield

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My face is my shield

fading phoenix
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also ragers are one of my main killers

sterile stone
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Learn to dodge

violet hornet
sterile stone
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^

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High impact weapons like the crusher also interrupt rager attacks

hard nexus
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IM BAAALLLLDD

tranquil bone
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Ragers are a really common issue for new folks. You really gotta resist the urge to spam dodge and make them count

hard nexus
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JUST LIKE @spare talon

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WHO IS ALSO BALD

plush estuary
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bald like egg?

hard nexus
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oh and ainz too

plush estuary
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dorn......

fading phoenix
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icl i forget about dodges sometimea

hard nexus
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ainz too?

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ainz,,

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TUAH

plush estuary
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willow

fading phoenix
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also knife can kill armored ragers?

plush estuary
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I'm the opposite of bald

hard nexus
hard nexus
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yes

hard nexus
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werewolf ..

plush estuary
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long curly hair

hard nexus
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gimmmeeee

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i wish i had curlier hair

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it’s wavy but i wish it was

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more ..

fading phoenix
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what are thr best relic blade blessings?

hard nexus
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flak elites or flak maniac

sterile stone
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I still remember that one clip in the meat grinder

tranquil bone
sterile stone
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Brother killed 8 ragers with a single knife

narrow mauve
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@zinc crest

violet hornet
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Fuckers wearing hats but not me

sterile stone
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And modifiers

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It's just something you learn as you play

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But you almost always wanna be dodging while engaging a horde

copper hawk
zinc crest
hard nexus
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i still need to hate watch hazbin s2

sterile stone
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Was looking like a Vivze character model

violet hornet
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Maybe fatshark will put him in a vat and he can host the next batch of mortis trials

sterile stone
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Hear dude's thoughts

copper hawk
sullen forge
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Evil kitty

wheat matrix
chrome wave
sullen forge
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We just gotta convince him to get runes marked in his skin and go bald

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Then he’s set

frosty herald
visual stream
spare talon
violet hornet
misty nova
tranquil bone
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He can be the new AI director but this time with genuine malice

sterile stone
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All that balance is gonna cause the average shitter to rage quit

hard nexus
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i miss the length but

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it’s otay

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it’ll grow back ina couple months

violet hornet
hard nexus
hard nexus
hard nexus
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HOLY TRYE

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TRUUUEEEE

sterile stone
chrome wave
violet hornet
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Lmao

heady rapids
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this updat e is peak

misty nova
copper hawk
sullen forge
heady rapids
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not me

sullen forge
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Dr Diddyspect

carmine lance
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love being left to deal with everything because someone was waiting at the checkpoint door, while I'm stuck in cutoff hell

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like sure, I can handle myself

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but not when I have 50 tox bombers, mutants, and ragers on me

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I can only do so much lol

sullen forge
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I mean you can just if they get pissy you’re taking forever

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If you crash out on them it’s justified

carmine lance
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nah we went down because he stayed in there and died for it

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he waited out my death

sullen forge
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Like if I’m going to solo the horde then you better sit pretty and wait

carmine lance
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and shit got in with him

violet hornet
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Not my work, submitted by doge.png

carmine lance
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lmao

trail walrus
acoustic dune
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hi chaat

acoustic dune
narrow mauve
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Baah.

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Wait, no, that's a goat.

acoustic dune
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is thaat urry

narrow mauve
acoustic dune
sterile stone
sullen forge
hard nexus
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LMFAO

violet hornet
hard nexus
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yeah ill just tattoo every frame

hexed igloo
hard nexus
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what server

hard nexus
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NOOOW

hard nexus
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what is this

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shield and

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something

violet hornet
hard nexus
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LMFAO

violet hornet
carmine lance
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joined a mission already almost down a wound, pulled off a fucking BEAUTIFUL clutch only to get netted into a crusher overhead, and everyone immediately ate shit

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I'm actually pissed off

spare talon
hard nexus
hard nexus
carmine lance
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silly question but is there an art channel for just regular art

hexed igloo
carmine lance
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sometimes I feel bad posting the same drawing several times

hard nexus
violet hornet
hard nexus
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blows u

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up

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with

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MIND

misty nova
hard nexus
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ker POW

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WEEH

violet hornet
hexed igloo
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I have the entire server except for here and pet channel muted

hard nexus
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smart

carmine lance
frosty herald
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your gonna get banned buddy

carmine lance
frosty herald
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theyre going to flay you

hard nexus
hexed igloo
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Aquila will personally execute you

acoustic dune
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@violet hornet mpreg list

misty nova
violet hornet
sullen forge
misty nova
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The truth is

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All zen'in are bums

misty nova
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Kinda funny that he fought 2 of the tankiest Muhfuh in the series

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And the anime kinda skipped over Maki taking damage from him

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So he got branded as pillow fists

long oasis
sterile basalt
misty nova
heady rapids
sullen forge
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Other than that I can’t defend Choso or Hakari cause they’re actually bums LMAO

misty nova
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The unstoppable gambler

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Hakari, the TikTok guy

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He gets introduced in the anime tomorrow iirc

sullen forge
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I’m interested in the fight honestly

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That and when Hiromi shows up

sterile basalt
signal spoke
sullen forge
deft badge
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Some bullshit with fur

signal spoke
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Rem never listens to slander because he always eepy

sullen forge
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Don’t trust the feds

zinc talon
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my goat only speaks spanish

sullen forge
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Seven my goat

zinc talon
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you can imagine my troubles rn

frosty herald
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Just some bullshit with fur </3

sterile stone
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You're about to be eaten alive by all the Delta Rune furries in here Yam

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I knew you well

zinc talon
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doublesuspiciousfry.gif

sullen forge
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I’m honestly neutral about Rem

sullen forge
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I want Venator and Silver the most next

zinc talon
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wait where's the wobbly rubber sword

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the original game of thrones had a wobbly rubber sword in that scene

heady rapids
signal spoke
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Alright who put someone ball sack into your weapons

zinc talon
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BASEBALL 40K STYLE

misty nova
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We are not sacking our weapons dawg

misty nova
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Is that Eminem

misty nova
sullen forge
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@frosty herald

frosty herald
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ok this one i dont know

zinc talon
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oh boyyyyyy

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the roads have finally thawed here

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got my first domino's in like a week an a half comin

sullen forge
misty nova
sullen forge
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Thinking about bullying people with Sinclair sometime soon

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@median steeple thoughts

misty nova
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Ayo what deadlock guy doing

heady rapids
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deadlock guy

frosty herald
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john deadlock

misty nova
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Yeah chadgryn

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Is this account backed by valve?

heady rapids
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no

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its some random acc

misty nova
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Because if it is that's mad funny

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Oh ok

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Mad funny still

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Also Eternus 5

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Is that like gold tier?

sterile stone
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Eternus is diamond ranks

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Basically brother man is

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Non showering levels of sweat lord

misty nova
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💀

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Those are some ugly ass icons ngl

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Except initiate

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And emissary

sullen forge
misty nova
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I just noticed the guardsmen head lol

frosty herald
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btw i finished dave the diver

sterile stone
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The Chud Eaters

misty nova
sullen forge
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Chudjak would be a world eater

deft badge
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Love Bancho

void bison
sterile stone
frosty herald
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almost my birthday

ornate bone
sterile stone
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@sterile basalt Check steam

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It's weird to see this is the new menu

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It's neat tho

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Kinda miss the old one with Abrams sitting outside the pharmacy

sterile basalt
violet hornet
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Yeah I checked out deadlock last night, very cool rework of UI, menu, and tutorials

sterile basalt
ornate bone
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Y'all ever consider that this man is gonna eat a shot the moment he tries to fire back at someone

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The year is 41000 and we still have people who can't check their ammo

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smh my head

violet hornet
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Maybe it's just representative of the typical veteran who uses all their ammo in the first 5 minutes shooting chaff

heady rapids
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that would be ogryn

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realistically

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Rumbler user out of ammo in the first quarter of a mission

heady rapids
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that's a good thing

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genuinely

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would you rather play with a rumbler ogryn that has ammo and knows about lucky bullet

violet hornet
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Since obviously they're helpless once the rumbler ammo runs out

ornate bone
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Turn this game into a survival horror

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Revolver now holds a max of 12 shots

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sterile stone
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Had a ogryn earlier who was doing some weird ass melee shit

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Dude was stabbing and slapping everything

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But like

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Ultra fast

violet hornet
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What would be worse, ogryn with smite or psyker with rumbler

frosty herald
heady rapids
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slapping is based

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it's a heavy attack

sterile stone
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hood good?

frosty herald
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I misspoke

heady rapids
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it applies all the heavy attack talents and shit

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hood good

sterile stone
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Ah

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Well to all the people who voted for the furry woman

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I hope you lose next voting round

heady rapids
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lmfao

stuck abyss
sterile stone
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I cast vote for the priest

heady rapids
visual stream
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Some of them were cooking

deft badge
sterile stone
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The average player isn't going to experience this content

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I came across a vet who's almost level 500

visual stream
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I'm not even asking it to be harder

sterile stone
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And he's never since the release of havoc

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Gotten to 40

visual stream
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The enemy and wave diversity is fun it just goes so fucking slowly

frosty herald
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The average player doesnt engage with havoc unless its for the cosmetics

visual stream
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20 seconds between waves

sterile stone
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Basically yeah

visual stream
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Enemies sit around corners waiting on the other side of the map while last alive

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The build paths aren't all fun

sterile stone
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And that happens in alot of games.

visual stream
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Just make the enemies sprint at the player when it procs the "few left alive" highlighting mechanic

frosty herald
visual stream
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Ez fix

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And make new waves come faster

sterile stone
visual stream
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I like the difficulty other than the stupid "gib enemy more health" difficulty modifiers that the devs like

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Which gimp some breakpoint weapons

deft badge
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Genuinely

sterile stone
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Isn't DoT the king of havoc tho

deft badge
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I think they should tone shit down across the board

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No

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King of rot armor

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Rot armor is just seemingly a permanent addition to havoc

frosty herald
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Remove rotten armor completely

heady rapids
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add it as an event that you have to play 20 maps on to complete

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would be cool i htink

deft badge
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Only 20?

heady rapids
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Monster Hunter Wilds reviews on Steam are almost entirely positive since the release of the new update Ver. 1.040.03.01.

The update massively improved PC performance and fixed the infamous DLC bug that was recently discovered.

#MonsterHunter #MonsterHunterWilds

visual stream
deft badge
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Thats not the only dot weapon

frosty herald
deft badge
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Its also good for other reasons

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Like haha infinite cleave

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DoT in general is good into rot armor tho, like scum tox

frosty herald
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Speculated to be related to the switch 2 port

wheat matrix
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Infinite cleave, dot so works with uncanny, infinite ammo, soul blaze spreads with psyker tree

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It’s a psyker weapon so benefits from all the psyker stuff like empathic which it uses really well

deft badge
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Infernus is a lil different than just DoT tho

frosty herald
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They also halfed the size of the high quality texture pack btw

wheat matrix
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infernus also does "okay" damage itself

frosty herald
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Cant wait for AT arkveld now

deft badge
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Infernus is infernus

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Psyker is psyker

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Dumb weapon for a dumb class

visual stream
wheat matrix
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no

heady rapids
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flamer doesnt give you peril

visual stream
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I don't use boring dogshit so I wouldn't know

wheat matrix
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flamer doesn't benefit from psyker buffs for one

deft badge
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Flamer doesn't have uncanny iirc, nor does it have access to the psyker tree in general

wheat matrix
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psyker has more ways to empower infernus than zealot has for flamer

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Flamer could use uncanny

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but it's just not worth it because the damage on soulblaze is so much better

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soulblaze mogs burn too

visual stream
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DoTs are affected by player damage buffs?

heady rapids
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yeah

visual stream
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Weird

wheat matrix
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if u apply burn with inferno staff

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then swap to a melee weap with uncanny and stack it

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the soulblaze ticks will benefit from uncanny

visual stream
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When is it getting nerfed

heady rapids
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never

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more psyker buffs

visual stream
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||It's not||

wheat matrix
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who fucking knows at this point

acoustic dune
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chat

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what if we

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we

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w

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the lord piss on the shrine

wheat matrix
ornate bone
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I wonder

violet hornet
ornate bone
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If they run a check for the attack coming from a melee weapon, they might "fix" uncanny on soulblaze

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Though they'd also need to run a check on soulblaze from melee weapons too, I guess

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And another check for talents?

visual stream
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Imagine if they made scum needler just ever so slightly more cracked than it already is

ornate bone
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Now we're splitting soulblaze across at least 3 different categories

sullen forge
visual stream
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The tox DoT itself is already someone's "totally balanced homebrew class"

heady rapids
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just make it be affected by whitelisted stuff

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lmao

wheat matrix
heady rapids
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it has 3 separate caps

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4 if you count wildfire

sullen forge
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Scum players acting like hotshit like one Tox DOT nerf won’t send them back to the deep hives

visual stream
lean cairn
heady rapids
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well they still have INFINITE AMMO

heady rapids
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what does nimble even do now

wheat matrix
plush estuary
frosty herald
heady rapids
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(1) Increases dodge distance by 25%; stacks additively with related buff from Fervor (Cartel Special Stimm). The effective distance a dodge can move a character depends on the dodge template of the currently wielded weapon or item.

(2) Increases Hive Scum's base dodge linger time against melee attacks of 0.25s by 50% to 0.375s. 'Dodge linger time' refers to the time window in which a character is still considered to be in is_dodging state against an incoming attack after a dodge has technically ended. This makes the dodge window more forgiving in regard to player input timing.

tame sluice
heady rapids
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so no one cares

tame sluice
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3 of the las weapons are good

heady rapids
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and if you want to do a recon only run you're gonna vacuum the ammo

ornate bone
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2, I guess

tame sluice
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recon, laspistol, and helbore

ornate bone
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Well, 3

heady rapids
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oh yeah laspistol exists

tame sluice
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3/4 lmao

heady rapids
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helbore is a weapon of all time for sure

ornate bone
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Only 2 of them don't have crit strings and need people to aim

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Woe

wheat matrix
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they have ammo generation

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but it's not nearly enough for "infinite ammo"

ornate bone
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They do have a mechanic for uh

ornate bone
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Ammo un-ungeneration

tame sluice
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guess I'm imagining the missions I go through never picking up ammo on exe+MMF vet then

heady rapids
wheat matrix
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oh yeah there's shock trooper

ornate bone
frosty herald
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me wanting pickpocket to proc on melee kills has been controversial

heady rapids
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pickpocket should be removed from the game

visual stream
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At least Shock Trooper confines you to las weapons which is a much easier category to balance, as well as requiring you to get crits to have that ammo conservation

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Vs. DUHHHH I KILL COMMON ENEMY ME GET 20% MAX

ornate bone
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To be fair, I don't understand the point of shock trooper

deft badge
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I genuinely don't understand who decided pickpocket should work like it does rn

ornate bone
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It's not like las weapons were categorically bad to justify an ammo efficiency talent

heady rapids
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laspistol and recon

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so you can just keep shooting

frosty herald
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bounty hunter was more balanced than hive scum

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ornate bone
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With surgical helbore, shock trooper is pretty much infinite ammo

heady rapids
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yeah but you have to run helbore

visual stream
heady rapids
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balances the perk of having inf ammo LMAO

tame sluice
ornate bone
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so true bestie

tame sluice
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how sad for me

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I'll go 3 shot a havoc 40 crusher to cope

visual stream
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At least it's not dual autos LOL

ornate bone
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I remember actually vibing quite a bit with the big helbore because of the bayonet cleave and the somewhat recent damage changes

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I think the big one used to have like the worst uncharged attack

wheat matrix
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i member when helbore was the best melee weapon in the game

heady rapids
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lmao

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with bm and shit

sullen forge
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BM Limbsplitter

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Lmao

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Pickpocket is just the second coming of Pre-nerf survivalist

visual stream
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Show hscum to a Victorian child (Year 1 player) and they will convulse

sullen forge
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A class?

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That never has to use melee?

tame sluice
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you show hive scum to a victorian child they'll go "oh like Huntsman from Vermintide 2?"

sullen forge
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Impossible

tame sluice
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because the headshot talent on them used to work on weapons that had cleave

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and they did the same exact shit firing longbow/blunderbuss into crowds

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which did get nerfed

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but infinite ammo is hardly unprecedented or the reason for gun scum's balance problems in this game

visual stream
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At least it requires you to get a melee kill IIRC

tame sluice
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the problem is vulture's dodge and desperado making you immune to ranged attacks

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so you can just unga bung W+M1 into everything

wheat matrix
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like

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lets not pretend it isn't

tame sluice
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you people are pretending it is the problem

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I'm working with the reality that it isn't

tranquil bone
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Infinite ammo was hardly unprecedented in VT2

heady rapids
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wuh

tame sluice
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if gun scum had to actually respect the game mechanics instead of having auto dodge just for shooting shit

heady rapids
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it wasnt a problem in verm that's for sure

tame sluice
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the infinite ammo would not be a problem

heady rapids
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but inf ammo on scum is a huge problem

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i can run db scum and deny everyone in the lobby the ability to play the game lmao

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easily

wheat matrix
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the guns in vermintide were very different

heady rapids
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cause a lot of weps are balanced around their ammo pools

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Just be glad they don't have plasma or bolter

wheat matrix
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the balance is MASSIVELY different

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there's a reason they dont

heady rapids
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wihtout actually having to ever swap to my melee

tame sluice
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I don't see how that's different from DB vet doing the exact same thing with power sword+double barrel on WS

tranquil bone
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Every single ranged weapon anyone ever actually used on any class had effective infinite ammo in VT and that simply isn't the case in DT

tame sluice
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aside from the fact that they change weapons every so often

heady rapids
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he has to actually swap to his weapon and do a melee kill

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and he doesnt have literal infinite ammo

frosty herald
tame sluice
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Or rumblergryn doing the exact same thing but again having to switch to melee every so often

heady rapids
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nor shit like triple barrel

frosty herald
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so you had to be good at melee

heady rapids
tame sluice
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or deadshot recon vet doing the eact same thing period

visual stream
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(brings up other problematic balance aspects) "Is it still overpowered now"

heady rapids
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esp with how lucky bullet is useless on anything that isnt a low ammo high dmg per shot gun

visual stream
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Two sticks can still be sticks at the same time

heady rapids
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terribly designed terribly balanced keystone

south prism
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did anyone else watch the newest fallout

heady rapids
tame sluice
tame sluice
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At least not in aurics

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Haven't played much of havoc this season

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We were JUST bitching about infernus staff

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Like right before this

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Which is what segue'd into it

heady rapids
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cause you can do that on vet

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scum can just not interact with the ammo mechanic

tame sluice
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I have literally done that exact thing on vet shooting everything the entire game

heady rapids
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ignore pickups completely

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and run shit like db

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with triple barrel

tame sluice
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with the literal only exceptions being things that I would melee on gun scum too

heady rapids
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just never stop shooting

wheat matrix
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Scum also has much better tools at staying OUT of melee range

heady rapids
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what's a melee

wheat matrix
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witgh stuff like nimble

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and jittery

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giving them insanely high mobility too

tame sluice
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yeah it's almost like the rest of their kit around the infinite ammo is the issue and not the ammo itself xd

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which is exactly what I'm fuckin' saying

visual stream
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Let's give them insane base stam regen while we're at it

wheat matrix
heady rapids
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it's not?

wheat matrix
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and aren't an issue if they don't

hard nexus
heady rapids
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not in this case

frosty herald
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nah infinite ammo is an issue

wheat matrix
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what a weird way to look around the issue

heady rapids
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you can keep shooting

wheat matrix
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LMAO

heady rapids
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which means

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nothing reaches you

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lmao

tame sluice
heady rapids
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you dont even need dodges on ranged or whatever desperado & vulture give you

frosty herald
heady rapids
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cause you can just kill shit

wheat matrix
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Bro goes "Every other part of scums kit becomes problematic once u have infinite ammo? It's the rest of the kit that's the problem!"

south prism
tame sluice
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I don't use pickpocket on any build that is not a desperado build because I don't like wasting my time shooting things I can easily melee on a melee build

hard nexus
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chem toxin is a balanced dot

heady rapids
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it legit does not matter

hard nexus
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only linear dot in the game

frosty herald
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chem bombs just liquify enemies

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south prism
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yeah why is it the only linear DoT

visual stream
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I forget what its worst ADM was, like 90% or something?

tame sluice
hard nexus
wheat matrix
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both are op

tame sluice
wheat matrix
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but scum mobility is not op

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so ur comparison falls short

heady rapids
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tbh

hard nexus
frosty herald
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vro

wheat matrix
heady rapids
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it's not

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infinite ammo is

wheat matrix
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yep

frosty herald
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i have no issues with scum being hyper mobile

heady rapids
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mobility or no mobility

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doesnt matter

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nothing can reach you cause you can kill it from distance

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always

tame sluice
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I only have issues with scum being straight immune to ranged and melee attacks just for shooting things

hard nexus
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to fix this power imbalance i think we should nerf zealot

tame sluice
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Which is so painfully obviously the root of the issue that it pisses me off seeing people laser focus on pickpocket

visual stream
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because that shit's busted on fuckin' gun psyker too

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and they don't even have infinite ammo

sterile stone
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Havoc players on some shit

plush estuary
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8

visual stream
heady rapids
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even psykers need to actually swap to their melee and blitz

wheat matrix
frosty herald
tame sluice
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so I'm thinking maybe "Empathic Evasion but better" is probably the real issue rather than "Shocktrooper but for all guns and you have to reload more often"

heady rapids
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the only busted part on gunpsyker is the dmg scaling

wheat matrix
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it's both

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lol

heady rapids
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but you still dont have literally inf ammo

frosty herald
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both can be too strong

wheat matrix
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^

sullen forge
frosty herald
sterile stone
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The fucking havoc 40 guy accepted me

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Broooother

tame sluice
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I play too much gun vet to ever think that infinite ammo on a good gun is going to be the root cause of any issue in this game

frosty herald
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but its very satisfying to hose down with the firing speed cap on psyker

sterile stone
tame sluice
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Because I play an infinite ammo gun class damn near every time I log onto this game and it ain't scum

heady rapids
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go play db scum and tell me it isnt broken

tame sluice
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And I outdamage other people playing scum as it too

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Just not into trash mobs

frosty herald
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paradise with his double barrel psyker

heady rapids
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cause you cant shoot into trash mobs? unlike scum

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lol

wheat matrix
sullen forge
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Psyker I’m assuming because it’s

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Well

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Psyker

tame sluice
heady rapids
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i can both stat pad and kill virtually any target that is of actual importance

frosty herald
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soulblaze double barrel deleting entire hordes

tame sluice
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I think the only class that I've ever had a gun scum feel oppressive into me as is Ogryn/Arbites

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Too slow to push ahead

sullen forge
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Infinite ammo Vet is strictly las weaponry

tame sluice
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Not enough range to just kill every gunner in the next room

frosty herald
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just let it be heat based otherwise holy

wheat matrix
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a hotshot should probably be both like plasma

sullen forge
wheat matrix
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if it were heat based

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i assume it would have gets hot

frosty herald
wheat matrix
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or whatever the crit one is

tame sluice
frosty herald
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so your forced to overheat it

tame sluice
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Recon is 100% worse into trash than anything gun scum does tho

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But better into everything else because you have r a n g e

frosty herald
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recon has infernus

compact path
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I propose, the bolter.

visual stream
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The bolter NOM

carmine lance
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You did the backflip and everything, only to fuck up the throw </3

visual stream
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I SWORE I was pressing in his direction when I threw

carmine lance
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Lmao

visual stream
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I wanna put one of those goofy edit songs over a slow-mo of the throw

carmine lance
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It happens

frosty herald
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wait rainworld pvp?

carmine lance
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Ooh thatd be silly

frosty herald
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or just multiplayer

visual stream
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That was single player

carmine lance
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There is multiplayer but looked like he was doing single

visual stream
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I just finished Five Pebbles area

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That made me want to rip my head off

sullen forge
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Kill team variant where they have packs

carmine lance
sullen forge
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Idk I kinda want an MG esc gun that’s heavy on Vet but isn’t just dumbed down to spray in general area

visual stream
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I uh

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I did

frosty herald
carmine lance
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UD sucks ass </3

visual stream
sullen forge
visual stream
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Two clips of suffering

frosty herald
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also if im looking correctly

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isnt this just a las LMG?

chrome wave
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when bolt action gun....

carmine lance
heady rapids
carmine lance
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They only spawn in the depths and on hunter’s run

sullen forge
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Kinda?

heady rapids
sullen forge
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Well hotshots are more powerful in general

carmine lance
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I used to do challenges in the discord server

sullen forge
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It’s just the capacity depends on what they’re having it hooked too

carmine lance
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I also tamed and brought a cyan lizard up to 5p on survivor

sullen forge
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The backpacks I’d honestly classify as like an HMG

carmine lance
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You need to lineage for that

visual stream
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I've honestly only ever done base slugcat's run, when I beat the game years ago I thought Hunter's campaign just started in a different area but with rules

carmine lance
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From outskirts

sullen forge
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The ones you’re sending are more in coin with an LMG

opaque island
frosty herald
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me and my gang

carmine lance
frosty herald
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the one with the rotary bit on the back and huge mag is basically an lmg

carmine lance
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Though you can carry 2 spears and eat almost anything you kill

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You also get a score at the end, score running is a thing too

heady rapids
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holy shit

carmine lance
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I done a couple score runs

heady rapids
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the gun that turns you into a furry

opaque island
solar gorge
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wanna watch the fallout ep but aslo need to climb on deadlock rnnrgg

heady rapids
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the fallout ep is fucking insane

solar gorge
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i'm sure it is

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i'll watch it at 7 am after i lost 8 games in a row

opaque island
solar gorge
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to cool down

sullen forge
tame sluice
heady rapids
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they added portraits

sullen forge
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Where I unironically have only 1-2 effective dodges

frosty herald
heady rapids
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and you can shimmer npcs

south prism
sullen forge
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I’m being dead serious

south prism
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DIE

heady rapids
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so they turn into furries

frosty herald
heady rapids
sullen forge
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Shimmer = perfected

south prism
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the ||NCR armor|| was cool

sullen forge
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Perfected = Furries?

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I know what you are Red

solar gorge
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nice try

copper hawk
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I have watched

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Many guides

solar gorge
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i'm not falling for this liberal propaganda

copper hawk
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On sludgelock

visual stream
copper hawk
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I think i might know how to play

visual stream
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Is that tied with the reputation system?

solar gorge
frosty herald
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genuinely if fatshark adds a slow as fuck heavy bolter to vet im never talking shit ever again

copper hawk
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I wanna try pocket

south prism
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if you've never played a MOBA before how difficult is it to learn how to play deadlock

solar gorge
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am about to hop on

copper hawk
sullen forge
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I only give a fuck about shimmered witch doc anyways 🚬

heady rapids
wheat matrix
solar gorge
solar gorge
copper hawk
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Bsy for a bit longer

wheat matrix
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i tried it once before

frosty herald
wheat matrix
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didn't really enjoy it

heady rapids
wheat matrix
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ill try it again ig

visual stream
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It just has some uhh uniqueness

south prism
carmine lance
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Im ngl, rainworld’s ending always fucks me up a bit

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The presentation is really something else

frosty herald
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rainworld has an ending?

carmine lance
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Yeah