zealot-class

[violet hornet]

I remember when me and da boys back in the day got into smite while guan yu was either new, cheap, or in free rotation. Every time guan would get a kill someone would be like "Guan me? GUAN ME? NO. Guan YOU."

[deft badge]

Chinese history has some insane numbers attached to it

[stuck thicket]

YES SAINT METHELINA. MAGDUMP THE TRAITOR CAPTAIN WITH DESPERADO INSTEAD OF REVIVING OUR ARBITES

IM GONNA KILL MYSELF AND/OR SOMEONE ELSE

[frosty herald]

the craziest part to me is the people eaten part

[sterile basalt]

He also beat some Christian scholar sent there to test if he truly was son of god in a debate

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[sterile stone]

@vernal terrace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJn_QWjSK1Q

[frosty herald]

Siege of Suiyang

[sterile stone]

I figured you'd get a kick out of this

[frosty herald]

Several hundred[1] to 50,000 civilians eaten[2]

[fossil plinth]

I feel like this video is ragebait

[frosty herald]

According to the Old Book of Tang, Zhang Xun killed his own concubine as food for the hungry soldiers to convince them that such extreme sacrifices were worth it.

path genuinely what the fuck.

[median steeple]

the new voices

the voices

[stuck thicket]

chinese history is like

miao ying takes power after a civil war that lasted 13 years
381 000 people perish during a reign of tyranny

[sterile basalt]

What

[sterile stone]

It's moreso translating tabletop to ingame stuff

So no

[fossil plinth]

Ah like armor values?

[sterile basalt]

History’s first sigma male

[sterile stone]

Amor values

[sterile basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[sterile stone]

Toughness

Armor ignoring

Yada yada

[frosty herald]

LMAO

[sterile stone]

I mean realistically 3 veterans and a ogryn could easily fuck a space marine up

[fossil plinth]

So this game bases around tabletop or something? Makes sense why Ogryn is so abandoned

[sterile basalt]

There’re way crazier stories if u dig deeper

[stuck thicket]

plasma gun

[sterile stone]

If the ogryn just face tanks the head to head with the space marine

[stuck thicket]

gg

[tranquil bone]

Plenty of Marines get killed by krak nades, plasma guns, thunder hammers, bolters ect even in the books and such

[sterile stone]

Yeah

[frosty herald]

The historical sources also indicate that there were clear hierarchies, especially "of gender and age ... that determined who had to die and who might live": women (such as the concubine) were killed first, afterwards "old men and small boys followed", while men of fighting age were generally spared.[8] The New Book of Tang contains a similar account of the events.[7]

[ashen panther]

ok so what even is the benefit of the mk 2 relic blade over the mk 10

cause I can't tell

[frosty herald]

what was zhang xun cooking?

[ashen panther]

why anyone would use it

[sterile stone]

I learned that early on that space marines really aren't all that over powered when you get down to it.

[frosty herald]

also path

taoism

[sterile stone]

Especially given how a guardsman can carry several krak nades

[frosty herald]

im interrested in it

[sterile stone]

But like I said

[sterile basalt]

Look up an lushan rebellion

[fossil plinth]

When they're not a main character or named or helmetless

[stuck thicket]

im pretty sure there are like

[sterile stone]

3 vets and a ogryn should realistically be able to kill a space marine

[stuck thicket]

numerous books where guardsmen just fuck up chaos marines

[deft badge]

It's based on the older FFG rpgs

Mainly Dark Heresy and Only War

[sterile basalt]

DT player characters can prob reach 2:1 (or in extreme cases 1:1) trade ratio with CSM

[sterile stone]

I mean we also gotta ask

Does a vet spamming VoC stagger the SM

[deft badge]

Darktide player characters could fuck up a marine

[sterile stone]

Cause if you apply the stagger

Then yeah

[deft badge]

If you wanna go off the rpg experience

[sterile stone]

It's easily gg

[stuck thicket]

are we going off like

[sterile basalt]

Do u speak Chinese

[stuck thicket]

game rules or lore rules or tabletop rules or

[frosty herald]

no.

[sterile stone]

Even in a theoretical set up

[frosty herald]

however youve caught me at a very chinese moment in my life

[sterile stone]

Vet can't escape power sword

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/get-ready-to-learn-chinese-buddy-adam-silver-nba-meme-chinese-learn-chinese-gif-7968018585650276479

[deft badge]

I'm going off Dark Heresy

Which is what a lot of the game is based on

[frosty herald]

the thammer alone can kill a marine

pierces ceramite and you can cook the marine alive by putting a flamer through it

[deft badge]

You can just throw Kraks

[sterile stone]

It should be mentioned tho

[deft badge]

Every class has a way to kill a marine

[sterile stone]

Darktide classes don't fully play by table top rules

Zealot is a perfect example

[frosty herald]

genestealers also just outright kill terminators in space hulks

[deft badge]

Kraks and Plasma, Thammer, Psyker existing, Ogryn existing, Bolters, Needle Pistol

[sterile stone]

Not to mention stimms

Exe stance

[deft badge]

Never ask the Blood Angels what happens when they board space hulks

[sterile stone]

I guess if you really wanted to be pedantic about it

A single vet with infiltrate and 4 kraks

[deft badge]

The community like

Envisions all marines at named captain power level

Which is simply not how it goes

[sterile stone]

I honestly envisioned a CSM at about the power level of a plague ogryn

[deft badge]

Marines have died to the dumbest shit in the world cause their books are so expansive, up to and including a wooden spear

[sterile basalt]

It’s somewhere like Rinda/rodin hybrid

[deft badge]

Tbh

[frosty herald]

Retcon that please

[deft badge]

The real issue with marines is FS would have to make another armor type

[deft badge]

Sucks to suck

[sterile stone]

Ceramite

Even then

Chastise the wicked

Downgrades ceramite to carapace

[deft badge]

No i mean

FS would have to add new content that works

Lmfao

[wheat matrix]

I would say they could just use cara numbers but GW probably wouldnt allow it

[sterile basalt]

Hasn’t been a thing for a long time

It’s melee_rending now

[frosty herald]

nah ceramite 100% has to be its own thing

[wheat matrix]

well they didn't do that for current content so idk why they'd need to do it for new stuff

[frosty herald]

with only power weapons or ones with displacer fields can penentrate

[sterile stone]

Yeah something akin to this, I was just putting it in a more dumbed down way

[wheat matrix]

i mean yeah it probably should be the issue there is just gating builds out of beiong able to damage a boss

[frosty herald]

like powersword eviscerator relic blade thunder hammer

[frosty herald]

i genuinely dont know how youd otherwise do ceramite

make it a new operation with rannick very very sternly saying to bring power weapons

[median steeple]

I would love for a death guard marine in darktide as a boss boss, but FS already said they weren't gonna

[solar gorge]

what's the issue

[median steeple]

and before anyone yaps

[frosty herald]

or displacer field weapons

[wheat matrix]

yeah nobody would like this lol

[median steeple]

No death guard dont kill you with their aura that's not how it works

[solar gorge]

FS said they wouldn't true

[frosty herald]

stink poop aura

[solar gorge]

but like

rejects would negdiff a csm

[solar gorge]

if i can one tap a BoN...

[median steeple]

I hate when peoples counter argument are to adding deathguard is "we couldn't get close because of their diseases" Like motherfucker that's how a beast of nurgle works

[wheat matrix]

if a bon doesn't melt u from aoe, a deathguard owuldnt eiother

[median steeple]

AND WE KILL THEM ALL THE TIME

[solar gorge]

yerp

[deft badge]

It's just marine worship

Space marines are the great things ever guys

Totally unkillable

Do not read the books where they die in droves

[frosty herald]

lore accurate we would be melting if we got near a beast of nurgle

[heady rapids]

when the video game has video game logic....

[solar gorge]

the 1000000 years old CSM when he gets stuck by 5 krak grenades :

[frosty herald]

i think someone counted the space marines that died during sm2

[full nebula]

yes but we're gamesworkshop and we ignore lore accuracy when we need to and cherry pick everything to artificially drive up prices

[deft badge]

Even past game logic marines die all the time in the actual books for 40k

[heady rapids]

they died to random ass tzangoors yeah

[solar gorge]

like in one of gaunt's ghost i think there's a csm that dies to a lasgun

iirc

[frosty herald]

also the belisarian furnace

[hard nexus]

hotshot lasgun to the face

but yeah

[solar gorge]

hit in the joints

[frosty herald]

ive not heard it mentioned anymore

[solar gorge]

or something

anywayz

csm, i'd win

[frosty herald]

wouldnt really kill more immobalize

or shoot at the neck

i know thats a marine weakpoint

[hard nexus]

and you know what u can do when they're immobile

[solar gorge]

go my ogryn

crush his skull

[frosty herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1451299016016007290/togif.gif

[hard nexus]

space marines are boring and i love the fact that the dt crew would stomp marines

[median steeple]

anyway couldn't happen to my goatstodes

[frosty herald]

dies to 3 genestealers

[hard nexus]

harlequins killing custodes with one blow

[deft badge]

Never mention the Dark Eldar event around custodes players

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[solar gorge]

doesn't 1 dies to a spear

[median steeple]

wrong faction

[misty nova]

Veteran climbing the space marine so he can point blank their face flashbacking to Titanfall moments

[solar gorge]

from a normal human

[hard nexus]

thats a space marine

[frosty herald]

harlequins are like busted

[solar gorge]

orh

[deft badge]

They've blendered Custodes too circa their 8e dex

[median steeple]

but also the writer said it was supposed to be lucifer blacks

[solar gorge]

i mistook the bigger marine for the marine

mb

[hard nexus]

solitaires are busted, harlequins are like space marine level

[median steeple]

for the war of the beast moment

[deft badge]

Specifically Draz beat 3 of em at once in cqc

[median steeple]

I want official lucifer blacks art

[deft badge]

That's okay tho, they died to the best

[frosty herald]

like the dude from rogue trader?

[full nebula]

i'm the deadliest entity in the universe, one fart liquifies planets and welds blackholes shut

[hard nexus]

yeah

[heady rapids]

finally convinced my friend to buy me a minecraft pickaxe

yesssssss

[wheat matrix]

yeah larkin hotshots it in the face poinmt blank

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1164599444583501965/dear_god.gif?ex=6970fd40&is=696fabc0&hm=54f4975ee95091374e3ac3cd527156f6670b458b0af0d5ad1978db7261454ba7&

[wheat matrix]

with a longlas

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/550767748473421877/1113701296319500318/hP5eT_YV_z4.gif

[solar gorge]

more marines dying to humans please

[wheat matrix]

that fight was so insane

they kill 5 csm and dont loose anyone

and they had like

[solar gorge]

i should read the book instead of larping

[frosty herald]

vro thinks hes mysterious

[wheat matrix]

a handful of explosives and a power sword

[wheat matrix]

i have?

[solar gorge]

I

[wheat matrix]

I read it like 3 days ago

[solar gorge]

I

I

[wheat matrix]

oh

[solar gorge]

me muself and I

[median steeple]

I love Solitairs

[hard nexus]

its a relic of its time

[heady rapids]

minesweeper is better........

[hard nexus]

iirc that was written when the power levels of marines were kinda

[frosty herald]

i wonder how strong checoragh even is

[hard nexus]

guard but a bit better

[stuck thicket]

should i just like

take a break from this game

[ornate bone]

yep

[solar gorge]

pre-marine glaze

era

[hard nexus]

bring it back

im so tired of marines

[stuck thicket]

nothing but failed havoc attempts for the last 2 days

[misty nova]

[deleted by admin]

[solar gorge]

please

PLEASE

[frosty herald]

10 more ultramarine models!

[heady rapids]

every time i see u in this chat ur either raging screaming or complauinign

so probably???

[ornate bone]

turn your failed havoc attempts into successful maelstrom attempts

[wheat matrix]

like 2 books later 3 loyalist marines and a handful of combat servitors walk through like 300 enemies shooting them at once and win.

[stuck thicket]

fucking howwwwwww

[hard nexus]

lmfao

dan abnett !

[stuck thicket]

ok yeah

[hard nexus]

the apparently best writer of 40k

[wheat matrix]

it was all loxalt

who obviouslyh had the uh

flechette guns not like, heavy ordinance

[heady rapids]

theres a slur for ultras i cant use here

[wheat matrix]

but still

[median steeple]

Yes he wrote Ciaphas Cain

[hard nexus]

no? that was sandy mitchell

damn

psycho u are a fucking NOOB

[sterile stone]

I do think it's funny

[hard nexus]

sigh super washed

[median steeple]

I'm fucking BLASTED

you chimbo

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439809540488167444/1458500025167646912/togif-15.gif

[sterile basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[wheat matrix]

i mean

it depends on what books

[sterile stone]

Cause someone paired the 4 classes against 5 space marines

[wheat matrix]

Book 3, necropolis is fucking INCREDIBLE

brilliant book

[hard nexus]

i read it

dont even remember it lmfao

[sterile stone]

And the 5 of them still couldn't team wipe them in 1 turn

[median steeple]

I WAS THINKING OF ESEINHORN

[wheat matrix]

Then book 15, archon

[median steeple]

FUCK

[wheat matrix]

is uh.

a book.

that's rela.

and exists.

[stuck thicket]

isnt matt ward responsible for most of the ultramarine glaze

[heady rapids]

eisenhorn is so good tho

[wheat matrix]

I did not like archon

woe machine bullshit

[heady rapids]

i cant say the fffffucking word here

[sterile stone]

And a single plague marine vs 4 rejects gets mopped on table top

[wheat matrix]

i am going to read them next

[heady rapids]

ultramarines.......

[hard nexus]

what woorrddd

dm it to me

[wheat matrix]

to be fair none of the marines in this were ultras

[heady rapids]

the slur for ultras.......

[wheat matrix]

there was an iron snake, a white scar and someone else

[median steeple]

Yeah I was thinking of Eisenhorn

fuck my brain is cooked

[sterile stone]

Keep in mind this is the rejects on table top which are nerfed versions of our darktide characters...

[solar gorge]

I'd read more 40k books if I didn't have to read 10 billion books already for college

[hard nexus]

total plague marine death

[stuck thicket]

wait there are tabletop rejects?

didnt even know

they look like ass dont they

[sterile stone]

There aren't but there's units you can equate them to

The problem is

Table top has limitations

Darktide characters do not

[hard nexus]

b b but but we dont have any weapons that could even POSSIBLY EVER HOPE to penetrate the GOD ARMOR of the FALLEN ANGELS, SPACE MARINES!! theyre just TOOOOO STRONNNGGG

kid named rending.

[median steeple]

Robert Rath and Nate Crowley are my goats

[solar gorge]

there's an official dt boardgame

[sterile stone]

Unironically

[solar gorge]

btw

[deft badge]

No, ward wrote a UM dex that GW turned into an all marines dex back in 4e or so

[sterile stone]

Our darktide characters are unnaturally overpowered

By table top standards

[hard nexus]

yeah and its awesome

i want our h40 rejects to be canon

[solar gorge]

craple top

[deft badge]

So it had lopsided coverage

[solar gorge]

but by lore standard it's not that crazy

[stuck thicket]

probably by lore standards as well

[hard nexus]

our rejects do h40 and win consistently

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

[stuck thicket]

because like

4 guys are not killing a chaos spawn.

[solar gorge]

depends on their gear

[heady rapids]

it all heavily depends on the situation

[hard nexus]

plasma gun melta gun really any large gun

[sterile stone]

I think it's funny how it takes 5 regular space marines to take on a team of 4 rejects and they can't even full kill the team with the best rolls

[hard nexus]

and u could put it down

[sterile stone]

On a single phase

[hard nexus]

LOL

thats awesome

[sterile stone]

And a plague marine is just 2 toughness stronger than a stanard SM

So yeah

[median steeple]

People with spears can kill Cspawns I think your ass with a gun can

[heady rapids]

looks inside
disgustingly resilient

[solar gorge]

Chaos spawns aren't all equals tho

[stuck thicket]

i wish space marines werent universally hated by everyone who likes different factions because i find some of them cool

[solar gorge]

some are meek

[sterile stone]

We'd absolutely fucking demolish a CSM, the only way to make fighting a space marine balanced is if there's literally 2 or 3 of them fighting us at once.

Because a single CSM will get bullied so fucking fast

[heady rapids]

listening to people's opinions online is completely optional btw

[stuck thicket]

well my insecurity says it isnt

oh well

[solar gorge]

they can be cool, they're just everywhere

[hard nexus]

plague marine thats been alive for 11 thousand years since the heresy, fighting and surviving constantly while being blessed with nurgles most potent disease

my zealot with a thunder hammer she found in a back alley one shotting him while screaming "blood for the god emperor"

[solar gorge]

and i don't hate them

[hard nexus]

peak.

[median steeple]

I'd more interesting if we got a plaguecaster as a voiced boss like the karnak

[hard nexus]

theyre just super overused

[solar gorge]

i just wish GW would give the other guys more room

[stuck thicket]

absolute cinema

[hard nexus]

exactly

[green yacht]

worst thing about space marines is their fans

[deft badge]

I hate that 40k can't do the AoS thing where everyone gets equal coverage

[solar gorge]

and that

[heady rapids]

at least give us

whats his name

[deft badge]

Like GWs other properties aren't so lopsided

[heady rapids]

tox ogryn

please

[stuck thicket]

fantasy also had that

[solar gorge]

because since SM's are the default faction, their fans are the default fans

[stuck thicket]

in 40k specifrfically

[deft badge]

Ik, Old World now

[stuck thicket]

they just gave up

[deft badge]

Don't get me wrong

I enjoy marines sometimes

For loyalists it's mainly deathwatch cause it forces marines outside of their boring echo chambers

[stuck thicket]

i like some of them because a few select chapters are cool to me

[solar gorge]

deathwatch is cool

[stuck thicket]

and space marines in general are just, cool

[solar gorge]

all of my chars in SM2 were deathwatch

[stuck thicket]

i like the dark angels knight asthetic

[deft badge]

Same, I played them on Tabletop for like 8 years

[sterile basalt]

There’s Dreg lector in files

[heady rapids]

dark angels are cool

[sterile basalt]

Nurgle priest

[heady rapids]

next week

[median steeple]

because stormcasts aren't even the most popular faction in AoS, I'm pretty sure it's skaven

[sterile stone]

4 rejects vs a nurgle chaos terminator

[solar gorge]

Dreg lector sitting here like the fucking ranged plague ogryn

[sterile stone]

Keep in mind like I said

[median steeple]

If stormcasts had the same pull as marines we'd be in the same situation

[heady rapids]

what the fuck is this larp shit lmao

[sterile stone]

these are nerfed versions of our characters

[heady rapids]

powerscaling son

[solar gorge]

powerscaling is based

(it's funny)

[deft badge]

It doesn't matter who's the most popular, they all get coverage which is nice

[median steeple]

Kind of

cities of sigmar kind of rot

same with some chaos factions

[heady rapids]

feeling like getting some more ultramarine models rn

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856603795738722307/1425920121473470554/togif.gif

[heady rapids]

another titus perhaps

[median steeple]

blades of khorne are sad

[heady rapids]

the coolest looking csms are crimson slaughter .......

[deft badge]

40k doesn't even get equal marine coverage tbh

Play a big 4 or fuck off

[sterile basalt]

Would I get banned if I rename my psyker “Blueball”

[deft badge]

I doubt it

[heady rapids]

i dont think so no

[solar gorge]

no why

[deft badge]

I dont even think that'd be censored

[solar gorge]

tamest shit ever

[sterile basalt]

Ok imma do it later

[median steeple]

Imperials Fists get overshadowed by their own successor lol

it's so sad

[stuck thicket]

what a glorious set of stairs we make

[heady rapids]

if 30k tsons and 40k world eaters had a son

so fucking peak.............

[frosty herald]

i really like the fleshtearers

[solar gorge]

i only fw SM who have something very unique visually going on

except the SW

die

[median steeple]

I'm just glad that bonereapers are finally getting more line troops

[frosty herald]

its so peak

[stuck thicket]

my favorite space marines are like

[median steeple]

it's been only guard for ages

[ivory marlin]

Chat i might go back to the lgs and buy that kill team box

[stuck thicket]

death watch, dark angels, blood angels, flesh tearers

[sterile basalt]

What’s SW

[heady rapids]

u gonna buy the glue and sniff it

[solar gorge]

space wolves

[sterile basalt]

Oh

[ivory marlin]

Already have

[heady rapids]

space wolves have 1 cool thing going for them

that one dreadnought

[sterile basalt]

I like the raptors

[stuck thicket]

MURDERFANG

[median steeple]

I like a bunch of chapters

[heady rapids]

fucking

murderfang

yes

i wouldve never guessed that was sw

[median steeple]

Space wolves
Ultramrines
Raptors
Ravens
Sallies

[frosty herald]

i remembered going to the GW store in utrecht right when leviathan released and they actualy had the boxset

[solar gorge]

I like iron hands a lot because the augmetics are very cool visually

[stuck thicket]

that is a khorne name

[median steeple]

Deathwatch is prob my #1 marine organization

[carmine falcon]

blud hates space vikings

[carmine falcon]

are u stooopid!!!

[solar gorge]

i hate space vikings

[frosty herald]

what do i like hmmm

[median steeple]

Bjornnnnn

[solar gorge]

i have a generational feud with vikings

you ouldn't get it...

[heady rapids]

and after every battle

they have to recapture him

[ivory marlin]

I like salamanders

[heady rapids]

sorry space wolves for ever thinking that u were lame

i didnt know they had a fella named fucking murderfang

[sterile basalt]

Does that 1 loyalist word bearer dreadnought get a model

[heady rapids]

100%

[misty nova]

Spaez Wolp

[median steeple]

I love Bjorn over any other dreadnaught because he's just tired

old ass man

[sterile basalt]

Anchorite

[frosty herald]

i like the dark krakens, soul drinkers, flesh tearers, minotaurs, carcharodons, malevolent and id say black templars

[sterile basalt]

Super based

[heady rapids]

they need to put dante in a dreadnaught for the bit

[solar gorge]

naw

[sterile basalt]

Unfortunate

[solar gorge]

you can kitbash one ig

with 30k stuff

[median steeple]

I don't even like like marines they're near the bottom for imperium factions for me

[heady rapids]

i have a uhhhhhhh

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-emo-wolf-werewolf-transform-gif-27196401

[heady rapids]

helbrute

somewhere

[median steeple]

custdoes and admech are at the top for me with knights and guard being 2nd

marines are a solid 3rd

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[heady rapids]

this guy

so cool.......

[solar gorge]

my top 3 would be guard, admech, tau in order

[median steeple]

I fuck with xenos more

[solar gorge]

and honorable mention for the LoV

[heady rapids]

its marines and necrons for me

[median steeple]

Necrons
Tyranids
Eldar
Votann
Tau

in dat order

[heady rapids]

probs necrons 3rd just cause of how they look

fuck

no

not necrons

tyranids

[solar gorge]

LoV i might put ahead of Tau one day

if they get more stuff

[ivory marlin]

Death guard
Nids
Salamanders

[median steeple]

the new Ironkin push it up

I love them

[violet hornet]

Necrons were cooler before they leaned hard into the Egyptian theme imo

[solar gorge]

they're so fkcin good

all of the LoV models ar peak

[heady rapids]

thats the best part

my sm chapter is tsons

[median steeple]

I love the steeljacks

[flint gazelle]

GSC ftw tho 😌

[median steeple]

this put them up above tau

I'll put tau back up if they ever get more aux models

[sterile basalt]

Guard, necron and ork for me

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mechanicus-adeptus-mechanicus-tech-priest-tech-priest-techpriest-gif-1974368433068357261

[heady rapids]

peak

[violet hornet]

Over here we got blue and gold themed Egyptian alien robots. And over there we got blue and gold Egyptian themed humans but there's no flesh inside anymore so they're essentially robots. Totally different

[solar gorge]

i think buri what's his name might be one of the best 40k model stat

[heady rapids]

MORE

[median steeple]

Admech and Custodes are my goats because they're so different from the rest

[heady rapids]

MORE !!!!!!!

[solar gorge]

arginson

aergisson

[violet hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[heady rapids]

even my fav old world faction

[median steeple]

Custodes being the pinnicle of humanity (for real and not fraudrines) and admech actively trying to divorce themselves from humanity

is peak

[violet hornet]

At least they had bone catapults and shit that's actually cool

[median steeple]

I like Tomb Kings a lot

[heady rapids]

i hate admech so much

[median steeple]

but Empire is my goat

[heady rapids]

lore wise

[frosty herald]

i think the jokaero are neat

[heady rapids]

prob the biggest example of what's wrong with imperium

[median steeple]

yeah it's awesome

[solar gorge]

empire, what if warhammer setting but humanity actually good

[heady rapids]

but u also cant tell them to fuck off

[median steeple]

well

mostly good

[heady rapids]

so many problems

[violet hornet]

Legally distinct wookies

[median steeple]

you still have witch hunters

[solar gorge]

the best they can be considering the setting tbh

[unreal hull]

Leagues of Votann >

[frosty herald]

tbh in fantasy having a mutation means your corrupted by chaos

and winds of magic are created by tzeentch

[median steeple]

for old world it's
Skaven
Empire
Tomb Kings
Lizardmen

[stuck thicket]

my top 5 favorite factions are like
world eaters
mechanicus
necrons
dark angels
nids
honorable mention: guard (more speciffically armageddon and krieg)

[solar gorge]

tzeentch didn't make the winds

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/yungviral-gif-13939729783032931857

[violet hornet]

Lmao

[heady rapids]

LMAO

im jk

[median steeple]

for AoS it's
Bonereapers
Skaven
Stormcasts
Seraphon

[stuck thicket]

me liking world eaters is a reference to

being mad constantly

[frosty herald]

i think the vampire coast is the coolest in fantasy

[stuck thicket]

i dont get it

[sterile basalt]

Is there anyone who doesn’t like skaven

[median steeple]

I forgot what the lizardmen were called in AoS for a sec

[sterile basalt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[solar gorge]

say thx u CA

right now

[heady rapids]

everyone loves skaven

[solar gorge]

NOW

[frosty herald]

skaven the most backwater backstabbing unstable faction

yet were able to trick and kill a god

[heady rapids]

so many fans for a faction that doesnt exist

[solar gorge]

Skaven are just below Empire for me in fantasy

[median steeple]

They also have some of the best characters

[heady rapids]

they're below the empire.....

[solar gorge]

yeah

[heady rapids]

dont look in the tunnels bro........

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/doomrocket-total-war-warhammer-clan-skryre-skaven-warhammer-total-war-gif-15796055

[stuck thicket]

vampire coast
kislev
empire
tomb kings
rats

[median steeple]

everyone loves thanquol

[solar gorge]

true...

[median steeple]

I love Ikit so much

[frosty herald]

also CA doing a massive amount of lifting to give fantasy characters their personalities

[stuck thicket]

tap into vampire coast...

i love vcoast

[median steeple]

best insane scientist OAT

[solar gorge]

we dun talk about throgg

[median steeple]

I only like Harkon for Vcoast

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rotting-leviathan-warhammer-total-war-vampire-coast-giant-crab-sea-monster-gif-17169259

[heady rapids]

post the great unclean one gif

[stuck thicket]

CA only decided to start milking fantasy a year after gw decided to shoot it and take a piss on its grave

[frosty herald]

wdym you have a faction about cool ass undead vampire pirates

[median steeple]

I like when the undead have their own shit going on and aren't mindless

[tranquil bone]

Skaven carry the setting

[median steeple]

that's why I fucked with bonereapers so much

[heady rapids]

ixalan called

[frosty herald]

with undead hermit crabs and towering giants

[tranquil bone]

Maybe VT has just brain poisoned me but I love the little guys

[solar gorge]

skavens are def very unique

[heady rapids]

vampire pirates has no business being this much of a badass trope

[tranquil bone]

They are so evil it's just wraps back to goofy

[ashen panther]

So the whole fatmangus zealot idea is just being stupid tanky

[stuck thicket]

games workshop being unique and original doesnt happen often but when it happens it makes peak fiction

[heady rapids]

i lvoe ixalan...

[stuck thicket]

yes

[frosty herald]

this is more undead conquistadors

which is also a cool trope

[stuck thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/quantum-slime-slime-rancher-limbus-company-limbus-sancho-limbus-company-gif-6883810919391524427

[heady rapids]

vampires ARE undead ,.

yam

[sterile basalt]

I think the rats look kinda adorably dumb for how evil they’re supposed to be

[stuck thicket]

exhibit a: skaven and admech

[frosty herald]

were talking about vampire PIRATES you git

[solar gorge]

sometimes

[heady rapids]

they're pirates

[frosty herald]

do not look up a skaven broodmother

[solar gorge]

depends on the artwork lmao

[sterile basalt]

Ik they’re super evil

[solar gorge]

there's some skaven art where they just

monstrous looking

[sterile basalt]

U don’t gotta remind me of that

I alrdy know rat ogre has stitches

And female skaven being used exclusively for production

[stuck thicket]

h e l l p i t a b o m i n a t i o n

[solar gorge]

there's 1 other use for skaven female...

but it's not any better

[median steeple]

when it comes to broodmothers it's kind of disputed iirc

like they may or may not be like that

it's weird

like all old world lore

[solar gorge]

makes sense and fits them

so i say canon

[heady rapids]

half life writer not believing in canon is so base d

[stuck thicket]

im unfamiliar with that...

unless its like too horrible for server rules please share

[solar gorge]

sexslaves for the powerful skavens

[frosty herald]

it very much fits the skaven

[stuck thicket]

ah

to be expected

[solar gorge]

idk how i could've said it better

it is literally that

[stuck thicket]

there is no sugarcoating

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/710316430884864003/803567797082259486/awesome.gif

[frosty herald]

bloated skaven which are completely hazed by warpstone and narcotics which sole purpose are to pump out skaven

[stuck thicket]

i guess the polite word for it would be concubines, or is it worse

[solar gorge]

idk

concubines doesn't make it sound as bad as it should ig ?

[median steeple]

With how AoS is handled I wouldn't be surprised if broodmothers don't really exist anymore

[solar gorge]

how do they do it there ?

do they have like little rat families

[stuck thicket]

no shot

[sterile basalt]

Concubine could mean a lot of things

[median steeple]

spawn rat
ratling is taken away to make sure it isn't eaten
ratling is raised depending on it's birth status

[heady rapids]

sylvanian families.....

[deft badge]

I love them

[sterile basalt]

They’re like minions from despicable me if they were actually evil

[deft badge]

I love that skaven have no written history cause each individual rat only cares about themselves and only sees themselves as worth remembering

[heady rapids]

aos skaven

[frosty herald]

albino rats get the best status

[stuck thicket]

with how skaven society works i would expect baseball bat abortions or some shit like that

[solar gorge]

wdym spawn

[heady rapids]

truth nuke cause minions were locked in a cave from 1939 to 1945

[deft badge]

They're perfect evil little goobers

[median steeple]

Normal rats are either clanrats or slaves
Black Rats are stormvermin
Grey rats are grey seers and wizards
albino rats are council of 13 guards

[frosty herald]

wait

[median steeple]

Grey rats still rank above since they can actually sit at the council

[frosty herald]

so the great horned rat is a major chaos god in age of sigmar?

[median steeple]

yes

[deft badge]

Replaced slaanesh for unknown reasons

[stuck thicket]

grey rats basically get 2 votes in the council of 13 because they’re prophets of the horned rat

[heady rapids]

i think it became that towards the end of the world

didn it

[solar gorge]

and it just makes ratlings spawn in ?

[median steeple]

Gives birth

like an animal

[solar gorge]

the horned rat does what

[median steeple]

No

you fucking

[frosty herald]

GW doesnt want slaanesh to be in the lore

[median steeple]

RAH

[solar gorge]

roh

[frosty herald]

they want to move away from all of that sex stuff

[solar gorge]

pregnant horned rat

[heady rapids]

its up to them if they want it to be sex stuff bruh

just dont write in shit like

fulgrim and what was it

the pear

[deft badge]

They kept them around in Old World and 40k+the sex stuff is mostly from the community I'm ngl to you.

[median steeple]

I was just saying broodmothers will prob be never mentioned

since they toned down a lot of the

assault from fantasy

[solar gorge]

i c

[median steeple]

there was a lot of it

[frosty herald]

same stuff as daemoncubula something

[solar gorge]

but it's still probably where they come from

[heady rapids]

daemonculaba

[deft badge]

That thing that came up once

That the community keeps bringing up

[heady rapids]

its a frequent topic of reddit posts

reals

[median steeple]

also not even the worst thing

[deft badge]

"Haha guys look shock value"

[heady rapids]

dark and gritty

dark and gritty

[median steeple]

I think the baby mulching factory in that one book is worse because it's happened in real life

[heady rapids]

wait no thats star wars

[heady rapids]

when u have a shift at the baby mulching factory

[frosty herald]

if they wanted to birth chaos neophytes just go to fabius bile

[heady rapids]

what?

[frosty herald]

star wars does have some cool gritty stuff

like zombie stormtroopers

[heady rapids]

none of that shit is in disney canon

which sucks

[frosty herald]

or that really scary thing that appears in warp space

[median steeple]

Every hospital in the imperium has incinerators for infants

[heady rapids]

star weirds

or something

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[solar gorge]

i thought the undead stormtroopers were cannon

[wheat matrix]

im hearing shock value and i want to now start complaining about Archon

[median steeple]

they are night sister magik now

[heady rapids]

i think they're legends

oh

we're thinking about different things

[hexed igloo]

fuckin what

[heady rapids]

ok so

[median steeple]

hold on

[heady rapids]

there's 2 things

[hexed igloo]

this is like 3gb on phone

[deft badge]

Starweirds, yeah

[heady rapids]

the ones that thrawn got in ahsoka

and the others from a book

[solar gorge]

i thought that cool guy was one

[heady rapids]

about the empire

yes he is

[solar gorge]

thet dante trooper

[ivory marlin]

Thats me when i wake up

[deft badge]

Death Troopers?

[median steeple]

it's the same concept basically

[heady rapids]

they're uhhh

they were made by what

's their name

dathomir witches

but

but

[heady rapids]

there were things before that as a consequence of the empire making a zombie virus type shit

yeah that

[median steeple]

Blackwing virus is the legends one

[heady rapids]

yes

[median steeple]

and the canon one is night sister magik

[deft badge]

Unironically a good book tbh

[heady rapids]

now we have the dathomir zombies

yes

[frosty herald]

abeloth in star wars

[frosty herald]

cringeeee

[heady rapids]

nah

[solar gorge]

I remember installing the death trooper add on on GMOD and running around the star destroyer map

...

[heady rapids]

night sisters are cool

[heady rapids]

none of my life experiences are unique it seems

[frosty herald]

i know but an empire zombie virus would also be cool

[sterile basalt]

Star Wars stopped being interesting to me after clone wars ngl

[heady rapids]

dude

if u

[solar gorge]

LITERALLY EVERYONE DID THIS

[heady rapids]

havent watched rogue one

and

andor

[deft badge]

I prefer OG Death Troopers concept to Night Sisters

[sterile basalt]

I did

[heady rapids]

ur missing out

[deft badge]

But like

[heady rapids]

big time

ok

cool .

[deft badge]

I do like that they still exist

[median steeple]

I fucking love the trooper designs for ashoka

[heady rapids]

whats that one dude with the golden mask

show him

[deft badge]

I think it's funny Disney decanonized a lot of legends just to pull a fuckton of ideas out of legends

[sterile basalt]

Andor is one of if not the best Star Wars media of all time

[solar gorge]

ya they cool

[heady rapids]

it is

its not even just that

it's one of the best series period

looking past that its star wars

[sterile basalt]

But like after andor

[solar gorge]

ik ik

[sterile basalt]

Nothing else is remotely close at the same lvl

[heady rapids]

oh yeah there's just filoni slopshit

[sterile basalt]

From the series

[heady rapids]

ahsoka mandalorian

[solar gorge]

after andor it's endless slop

[sterile basalt]

So I just stopped caring

[heady rapids]

other shows no one cares about

[frosty herald]

enoch

[heady rapids]

book of boba

whatever

[deft badge]

Mando was good for what

A season and a half?

[heady rapids]

mando is cool if u dont think about it

genuinely

[sterile basalt]

It’s not even interesting anymore

[heady rapids]

brain off

[deft badge]

Yeah but actually good

[heady rapids]

i watch sw shit on autopilot

[solar gorge]

the only thing of mando i've seen is that clip with the B2

[sterile basalt]

At least warhammer has meme, aura and hype moments

[heady rapids]

bad batch was alright

rebels are pretty good

[solar gorge]

and that's because I love B2's

[deft badge]

I like that the entire community goes "yeah thats not my boba"

[heady rapids]

i watched 3 seasons of mando and there's like

a handful of cool moments

like the gideon storyline

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/mandalorian-super-battle-droid-gif-2101774665757770055

[heady rapids]

him kicking the b2

JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT

[median steeple]

S1 and 2 are cool

3 has some good things

[heady rapids]

actual fucking travesty

[frosty herald]

dude forgot that b2's dont take shit

[median steeple]

I really like season 2 because of bill burr

[solar gorge]

B2 backhand

[sterile basalt]

I haven’t cared about shows for so long

[solar gorge]

get fucked

[deft badge]

S1 is genuinely great tbh

[heady rapids]

the best episode in book of boba is the one that 's not about him

[deft badge]

Idk why they had to whitewash Boba

He's objectively a pretty evil guy

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-attack-of-the-clones-geonosis-droid-battle-gif-15588682

[frosty herald]

why did they turn boba into this goofy character

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-burr-star-wars-the-mandalorian-shot-rage-gif-5840531766050982370

[frosty herald]

dudes supposed to be a ruthless bounty hunter

[tranquil bone]

I only watched S1 of Mando and my primary takeaway was they wasted his awesome ship design

[median steeple]

I really liked this episode in S2

[frosty herald]

jedi survivor did him alot of justice

[deft badge]

Fuckin right?

[solar gorge]

andor was so good i'm such a fucking chud for not watching it earlier

[heady rapids]

they're bringing it back in MANDALORIAN AND GROGU be sure to watch that buddy!!!!!!!!

[deft badge]

Jedi Survivor has good care for the named characters tbh

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/jango-fett-geonosis-jango-fett-death-jango-fett-gif-6040884377307878183

[median steeple]

I hope the starfighter movie is good

[deft badge]

Their depiction of Vader is 10/10

[median steeple]

the one with Gosling

[heady rapids]

i have a friend who calls it liberal slop with space aks and i lowk wanna kill him for that

[frosty herald]

vader in fallen order was genuinely frightening

[solar gorge]

liberal slop

[median steeple]

complaining about AKs being in star wars

tourist alert...

[deft badge]

As if star wars hasn't always used surplus guns

[frosty herald]

||https://youtu.be/Sg0rXa1WnZc?si=GAYg60gY9C5BgsHb||massive spoilers for jedi fallen order btw

[heady rapids]

i still gotta say tho this shit looks funny

[deft badge]

This shit was hardcore tbh

[heady rapids]

but like whatever it's in there for 1 frame

[median steeple]

Herrara is a fraud it's so funny

[sterile basalt]

At least it’s not surplus AR-15s

AKs are at least cool

[deft badge]

Those also exist iirc

[heady rapids]

look man

its an ak

[deft badge]

Idk what they're from

[heady rapids]

its a symbol of revolution

think about it

....

[deft badge]

But ik BF2 has them

[median steeple]

I do think the handguard could've been changed

[solar gorge]

fellow AR-15 hater

[median steeple]

but it's whatever

[frosty herald]

the music is just perfect

[sterile basalt]

I don’t hate AR-15 I just find it generic and the fact that everything is becoming it is making gun design way less interesting

[solar gorge]

same

and that's why i hate it kijnda

[median steeple]

Said it before but i'm thankful disney star wars keeps giving us banger trooper/droid designs

[solar gorge]

because it standardised everything into that

look

[tranquil bone]

TBF they normally cover em in enough greebles it at least looks a bit different

[heady rapids]

if only they werent wasted in subpar shows

but like

what sw shows arent subpar

[sterile basalt]

If there’s smth I actually hate it would be US SIG’s P320 and MCX Spear

[tranquil bone]

That's literally just a AK out of a crate lol

[heady rapids]

it's just andor

really

[deft badge]

Bf2 ar 15

[median steeple]

deathtroopers
new sith troopers
shoretroopers
KX droids
All of rogue ones rebel designs

I love rogue ones rebels so much

[heady rapids]

i need to watch rebels further

[median steeple]

this is peak

[heady rapids]

i did s1 and took a break

[sterile basalt]

I remain convinced that XM7 conceptually is dogshit

[heady rapids]

good show ....

i remmeber everyone and their mother hating on rebels back when it released

[median steeple]

the spear? I fucking hate it so much

[heady rapids]

imo the best rebel gear is on the guys that were on tantive 4

[sterile basalt]

Kind of

[solar gorge]

the person who gave the deathtroopers the voice scrambler is my hero

[heady rapids]

i love these hats so much

[median steeple]

it's so ugly and it fucks up supply lines established supply lines

[sterile basalt]

Spear is made for an outdated doctrine that simply hasn’t been relevant for over 50 years and won’t be relevant for another 50+

[frosty herald]

i do like that disney keeps darth vader as this force of nature

[heady rapids]

kenobi was so dog

sigh

[frosty herald]

legitimately terrifying to even encounter

[sterile basalt]

Forgotten weapons made a rly good video discussing why XM7 conceptually is dogshit

[full nebula]

imagine following pretty much anything star wars related after disney bought it

[median steeple]

technically these are Alderaanian guards and not just rebels

[heady rapids]

ok nerd

[solar gorge]

was about to say

[deft badge]

I like that the army went "haha xm7 guys" and the marines just went for the 416

[median steeple]

Kenobi was ass but it gave us child killing vader and phase 2 purge troopers

[deft badge]

5.56 just works

[heady rapids]

nerdzzzzzzzzzzzz

[sterile basalt]

It’s not even that

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-airstrike-gif-15731171668989040509

[sterile basalt]

It’s that the combat scenario the XM7 is made for isn’t even real

[heady rapids]

but i also like standartised uniforms

[deft badge]

Ik

[heady rapids]

so im a sucker for clones and droids and uhhhhhh

stormtroopers

[deft badge]

Its designed for like

[heady rapids]

but rebels not so much

cause they all look different

which is cool but im not a fan

[solar gorge]

I like rebels and CIS

[median steeple]

the DH-17 is often compared to the UZI

[solar gorge]

and that's it

[deft badge]

Classical across big open ranges combat, like ww2 fields

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[median steeple]

which all of these guards run

[heady rapids]

although

[full nebula]

oop

wrong one

[heady rapids]

they did have some good drip on endor

[median steeple]

I just love the rogue one rebels so fucking much

[full nebula]

the best part is, all of this, just, works

[sterile basalt]

Your avg infantry rifle dude is not gonna take pot shots at people 600m+ while carrying at most ~160 rounds of ammunition

That’s just unreal

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/leia-princess-leia-leia-organa-endor-camo-gif-4194971424308315492

cool ass hat

[deft badge]

You want smaller ammo you can carry more of

[deft badge]

I love endor rebels tbh

[heady rapids]

they're great

[solar gorge]

the XM7 also has another glarring issue

it's not a bullpup

[full nebula]

starwars lost the plot a long time ago

[sterile basalt]

It has way too many

Like

[median steeple]

the suppressor also melts

[heady rapids]

isnt it fucking weird tho

[full nebula]

theres more bad starwars properties by a large margin than good ones lol

[heady rapids]

that the empire didnt have camo

[heady rapids]

hi captain rex

[median steeple]

they do but it's scouts

[heady rapids]

retconned......

[solar gorge]

and it's just another AR15

[heady rapids]

they're wearing white armorrrrrrrrrrrr

they're whiteeeeeeeeeeeeee

[full nebula]

empire cadian jungle fighter thingies

[heady rapids]

so stupid

[median steeple]

Scout troopers get camo but the empire doesn't give a shit for the rest of them because it's the empire

[frosty herald]

flametroopers and snowtroopers are peak

[heady rapids]

snowtroopers are the best empire design

imo

also star corps .....

[full nebula]

just like the real guys, the empire is too worried about drip

[heady rapids]

and uhhh

what was that clone battalion

with ki adi mundi

[median steeple]

21st marines

[solar gorge]

I really like the snowtroopers and flame troopers from the dinsey trilogy for what's it's worth

[sterile basalt]

They’re trying to give it AP and range

Which they do by giving it turbo velocity
Which requires hyper internal pressure
Which leads to abysmal part wear which makes logistics worse
On top of having to swap ammo for whole army
While the hyper internal pressure makes recoil significantly higher
And you carry way less ammo with it

[heady rapids]

galactic

yes

[frosty herald]

i dont know what the fuck they were smoking for sith troopers

bright red troopers?

[full nebula]

whats the name of those q tip looking mfs who made the clones or whatever

[frosty herald]

like they arent a massive eyesore and target

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/clones-revenge-of-the-sith-battle-of-mygeeto-gif-17284637200015452550

[solar gorge]

existed before disney trilogy iirc

[sterile basalt]

And modern infantry assault is really just

[solar gorge]

sith troopers

[sterile basalt]

COD WAW veteran difficulty

[heady rapids]

the flame troopers from the disney trilogy look sick

[sterile basalt]

You spam nades

[median steeple]

oh yeah scout troopers also get shadows

[sterile basalt]

And prefire

And bring 400+ rounds of ammo

[stuck thicket]

when i was 13 i thought captain rex was the pinnacle of badassery

[heady rapids]

sick ass fucking helmet

love it

[solar gorge]

yeah the helmet is peak

[stuck thicket]

THIS IS GASSSS

[frosty herald]

these dudes make sense cause theyre elites guarding palpatine

(dont mention that palpatine could easily kill every threat)

[stuck thicket]

i love the part 7 and onwards stormtrooper designs

[heady rapids]

they are also really sick

[solar gorge]

no, i'm pretty sure red storm troopers were a thing in legend

not just these guys

[full nebula]

i never watched the animated starwars shows really, probably better than most of what disney has made tbh

[heady rapids]

also the troopers from solo

[deft badge]

It was for posterity

Palp didn't want to be seen killing every threat

[full nebula]

somehow he returned

[heady rapids]

oh and the ufcking

uhhh

the guys from scarif

[median steeple]

all sith trooper variations and I love them all

[heady rapids]

i really need to watch solo

this is pure gas

[median steeple]

Mudtroopers but those are imperial army

[frosty herald]

the only good thing to come from the solo movie

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I unironically like solo tbh

[heady rapids]

they look great