#zealot-class

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Same

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cycle frontier or something

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Arc is fun

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No

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I'm not even a little interested in arc tbh

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dont shoot

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idk i played the finals and that game wasnt very good

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so im 100% not buying arc

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also ai voice acting sounds like DOGSHIT

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I don't like third person games a whole lot unless they're survival horror

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coward

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3rd person horror,...

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Look

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Resi 7 is my favorite resi for a reason

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face it in 1st person like a man

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If the rest were first person I'd prefer it

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they got paid dlc

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for that

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?

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im pretty sure re7 and re8 first person is paid dlc

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oh wait

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No?

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its the other way around

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3rd person is

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mb

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Yes

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Resi 8 is like

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So disappointing to me

ivory marlin
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i only played 4 5 and 6

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keep yourself save

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safe

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8 is 4 but worse

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FUCLK

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You should play 0-8 knife only

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Like ME

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Aside from 3 i still gotta do 3 knife only

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RE8 is a good game but the writing is a mess at times

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I dont think you can do 4 knife only

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Re7 was so good, then they decided to indulge back into the stuff that was not very good for 8

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The remake was easier

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Nah I love 8 but the middle sections with doll girl and fish guy are fucking boring

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Cuz you could parry everything

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Doll girl scared me originally

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The castle is good, the workshop is good

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Ethan winters having the most badass voicelines and they all keep asking wtf is going on and where his daughter

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The doll was one of the few parts i liked

ivory marlin
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The doll would be fine if any real combat happened at any point for the next 2 hours

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But inbetween Dima and Metal Man the game is just boring

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It was a stealth bit

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To remind you to feel powerless

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I have a lightsaber

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Fym powerless

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So true mb

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Its fine run 1

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Relatable

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But on replays the middle section is dumb boring

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I HATED the baby

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Also fun fact when the baby “eats you” it’s canonically Ethan’s heart exploding at the thought of him failing as a father

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i love this guy sm

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what game is that

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nuclear nightmare

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nuclear nightmar-

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have the updates been good?

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well

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the game is a lot more stable now and they added a cool car

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and 2 new maps

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how crashable is the car

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dev couldnt work on the game as much cause uhh

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They just updated it on the 5th didn't they

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he was getting deported

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from the us

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oh

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i hope that guy is ok rn

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But you can abuse that thing

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Tongs abuses babies point

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dababy

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When they move like that?

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Yeah

heady rapids
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I will abuse speedrun strats

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Cause if I stop playing RE8 during the middle bit I stop playing it lmao

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We got stress testing for you to do buddy

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when i played with my friendsi was usually the guy running helicopters into buildings and snow mobiles into doorways it should not be in

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lambda drove off like

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the whole lobby

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into the ocean

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Used all the reinforcements on that

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and then when we reinforced him he blew up

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And then one of you two bastards shot me in the head right after we ran out

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🚬

solar gorge
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15? Ish minutes tops, probably 10

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oka

hearty nebula
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ill play

ivory marlin
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Nightreign

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nightreing

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oh

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dont have it and i dont like souls gameplay

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Like if elden ring and soulslike had a freaking awesome baby

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Roguelike

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Not soulslike

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I'm ngl that statement ragebaited me

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its souls combat you mong

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anyways i prefer the superior fromshart franchise

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I'm gonna be deadass

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AC6 isn't that great compared to older AC games

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no its not

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but id still take it any day over any souls game

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i just dont like the combat in them, period

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I miss Last Raven era AC tbh

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its not rewarding mechanically whatsoever to me

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that's fair

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NR is very fun tho

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Nah

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If you don't like souls you won't like NR

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thats

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exactly what im saying

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lol

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yeah ig

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i dont like souls, i wont like nr

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They can have flawed taste, but it is their taste

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but i thought i was gonna hate nr at firrst tbh

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and im too autistic about roguelikes to enjoy how they do that aspect of the game as well

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so its just like

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theres nothing for me to get out of it

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i thought i was gonna love nr and i kind of enjoy ti

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I'm ngl

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but like

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It pmo when I just have a bad run with bad loot

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for a game that has 8 main bosses

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a lot of them are doodoo caca

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and there's still no dlc weapons

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NR is like

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Exactly what it needs to be for me tbh

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It's souls without the commitment of a playthrough

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longest runbacks of any souls game

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Give me stars of ruin staff in recluse and we win

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the char skills are the best part for me

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Like give me a real example of it

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JELLY WE SHOULD DO A DRAWIMG COLLAB

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JELLY

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RoR2 I never felt like there was rng mitigation outside playing loader who just doesn't need items

hearty nebula
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Roguelikes

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nah er can get extremely annoying and kill your run with a well placed dog event

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nightreign being a (in my opinion) mediocre roguelike

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Its defo not like

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The pinnacle of roguelikes or anything

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I would say you can mitigate rng tho

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Strictly via skill however

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no

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So eh you know

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this just makes me want to play synthetik again

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that game was cool thematically

ivory marlin
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but i didnt really like the gameplay

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@solar gorge I've seen the Harley Quinn art now

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NR makes me want to play ER tbh

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i fundamentally dont vibe with roguelikes ngl

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Idk i like very few roguelikes tbh

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nothing will make me play er again esp with the dlc progression

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RoR 1 and 2 are the main ones

ivory marlin
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i played so much roguelikes at one point i got extremely burnt out

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Oh yeah this reminds me @hearty nebula how much is vintage story

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i think the only roguelike i like absolutely loathe is Binding of Isaac

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because it's a wiki game

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if u get what i mean

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i fucking despise wiki games

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BoI convinced me I hate roguelikes

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boi is my fav for sure

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just watch so many youtubers you memorize almost every isaac item

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weak

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Fucking dumbass game

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how

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Another Yam tier take being presented live to my eyeballs rn

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idunno

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there was no ending cutscene only something that didnt make sense

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I like tboi

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it had great weapons cool looking areas and mostly good bosses

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the shadowtree base having nothing

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explain?

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just a few shards

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cause it's not supposed to be an ending?

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lol

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its post mogh

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bosses felt eh

ivory marlin
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RoR2 has the same problem to an extent but it's not nearly as bad

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noobs

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holy noobs

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smh

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ivory marlin
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heady rapids
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With full confidence too

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EXPERIENCING THINGS FOR YOURSELF

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Which remind me

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yeah yeah blablah

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instead of reading up on everything online like a noob

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I need to play sm2 for my princess dress up part

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roguelike players these days

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smh

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@heady rapids what's the weekly?

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Sm2

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?

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open the game and look for yourself

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i should give synthetik 2 a try again

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i havent played it since launch basically

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and i immediately dropped it because they had the stupidest fucking bug ever

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@glad ermine what is weekly sm2?

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it was abysmal dogshit

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wtf

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helldivers reference

solar gorge
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wheres my ping @deft badge

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and also reprimand

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up until like 3 or 4 months ago

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i am rn

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ill be soon

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not

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on nn

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@heady rapids NR time rn

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free like ab ird

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soon ™

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Still rough around the edges for sure

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they should wipe any sec now

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que 1 wihtout me

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they revived me

glad ermine
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8 make fuckup costume

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Ask anavar

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and also has an extra enemy type

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lol

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hard to massacre it when it was never good in the first place

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How to ruin a character smh

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Well uh
At least it's better than her old form

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She got a tail now

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I do agree that if she was dragon 24/7 would be cooler

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Love her empowered Q

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Is knife still a viable weapon on zealot? if so, how do you build it? With backstab ulti and crit keystone?

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and you can use any ability/keystone really

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IJ is still basically the uncontested GOAT when it comes to zealot keystones rn

misty nova
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Is she wearing a petricite boob plate

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Wait

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They made it so petricite absorbs magic instead of nullifying

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Nevermind

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When she becomes magic dragon the petricite she could be wearing would just adapt to it

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IJ has more speed and dodge boosts though

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Better ingredients (attack speed and melee damage)
Better pizza

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unless there's a new shittastic youtuber build out there polluting noob brains again

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It's gotten fool proof and you don't have to run 3 wounds curios currently

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So it shot up in popularity

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i call this one The Freeman

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What did Man do
#freeMan

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(really funny please laugh)

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Anything but finding his wife I guess

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Bum ass

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the only that changes is his sword

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lameeee

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STOP MAKING HIM SHIRTLESS

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same issue that the morde skin had

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one form only the weapon changing

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Give him armour for christs sake

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holy shit

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I feel bad for any woman playing league

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Yeah fr

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the creatures here are horrific

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Good thing i only like twinks

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if he had two forms

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one shirtless one fully armoured

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And am masc presenting

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then yeah I'd might get it

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the skin wouldve been much better if it was fully armored i agree

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barrel all psykers

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I imagine at least of one of you guys look like this irl

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Yall know the like battlefield section of the tank mission right before the fort

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it was like 20 degrees

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stan

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BLAB

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hi

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I just like saying your name

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I had to solo all of it because a smiker accidentally barreled the entire team

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Smiker is better than zealot tbh

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And i couldn’t get any resses in time as i was fighting a chaos spawn and bon

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🗣️

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@willow

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@hard nexus

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L rizz

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man

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the everdark sovereign balancers are legit stunning visually

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Weird wolp but okay

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Ok so hive scum cool and all

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When next dlc class

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Like last year

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I was just thinking about you

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I HATE YOU

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DIEEEE

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u dont mean that

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Hi meow

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i am incapable of being hated

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I was just thinking about you

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I wrote a fanfic of you and exhil being enemies to lovers

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Why

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True to life

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He likes to lay in the snow while eating it

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Me too dog

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Me too

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It is NOT my fault yall flirt

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yeah I too send people love letters and serenade them at sunset as playful banter

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# void bison horse?

maybe in a bit. i was hit by inspiration for imperium maledictum prep and i need to get it done before i forget it

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btw do y'all wanna see something hot, borderline NSFW even?

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Zamn

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there is a hell portal there

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They cooking a whole country

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When does it come out of the oven?

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Aliens have an invisible magnifying glass on that spot

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floating in orbit

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So I can just assume you actually posted

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what I posted really is hot so you're missing out tbh

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misty nova
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but yea it's up to 50C/122F in some places

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Wow that is genuinely deadly

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Bubblegum chicken weather

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what am i playing bruh

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my fallout playthrough has been good but I kinda wanna pivot to evil

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let her have fun

ivory marlin
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Sure the game is having a stroke now with lighting and shadows

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Chat can i be honest

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I think t-51 is ugly

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Never seen an uglier suit of power armor

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Worse than the entire x series

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i'm gonna nuke megaton for this

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T-45 is the best armor btw

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This is my honest to god opinion

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You say that as if I remember the marks

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i like the new vegas remnant armor with the spinny fan in the back

ivory marlin
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Uh

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Anchorages

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wheat matrix
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the t60 looks better with less of that rubberized section showing in the stomach

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I don’t mind t-60

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Its the most iconic despite only really being shown in fallout 4

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Lore wise t-51 was the most mobile

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T-45 was a walking tank

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T-60 was decent at both

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And then the X series is post war

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Kinda

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Muzzle

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It reminds me of the angry space marine helmet

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Oooh warhammer

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people forget X-01 is different from APA

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X-01 is pre war prototype that lead to APA of the post war enclave

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you have APA which is the armour they use in FO2 then APA Mk2 which is there suit in FO3

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I think id be a lot happier if i had a set of t-45

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A suit of power armour would solve a lot of problems

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It would likely then also create quite a few but still

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Not the point

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Id be able to kill everyone i disagree with free of consequence

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Lore accurate t-45 was nuke resistant

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It doesn’t really have the like

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what is this bull shit

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Mamoth skull vibe tho

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Imo

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@glad ermine @heady rapids @carmine falcon

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It's annoying for block weapons but otherwise fine

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one of the easiest in weeks

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the first modifier is STAGGER not dmg

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so no axe

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less abysmal

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At least dmg would be somewhat interesting

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nah bro imagine a mf ignoring your aftershock

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Good

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bro wants to feel da pain

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Well, yes

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:3

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would relic martyr be better with fury or the book in havoc?

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im currently using fury in auric mael

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fury

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I like fury

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or stealth

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thanks

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Book succ

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ya its boring lol

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Isnt it like

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Niche as hell

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it's more of a support tool tbh

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yea it is

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it is useful though in emergencies

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there is an ork in my lobby

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book is a strong support tool but you're hamstringing your dps if you run it

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trade offs innit

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I like how book has anti synergy with the entire zealot skill tree

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true lmao

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cant dodge and cant guarantee a crit

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lmao

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I'm a chorus enjoyer but like, it needs a rework

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its like vet shout except it makes me put down my weapon i hate it

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Turn it into legally distinct Nuncio Aquila

wheat matrix
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I had an idea to turn it into a rhythm game type of deal where like, passing the minigame lets you have some more offensive impact so you're actually doing things

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Chorus rework idea: buff dodges crazy style and let it give you i-frames to things dodges usually wouldn't :^)

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but it didn't get traction, alas

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Chorus as it is is fucked

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Make it a self buff

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I really wish it was actually anything to do with chorus

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Make it scriers gaze for zealot

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when I see chorus I think of that The Incredibles moment where the ice guy reaches for water

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chorus book is weak because rejects don't know how to read it properly

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taking a break while at gun point

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a little sip

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Have you managed your zealot solo yet?

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no

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Unlucky

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What classes have you managed

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Only Arby

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Ah

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I know a lot of people have also suggested that chorus should burn enemies too but that's also not gone anywhere it seems

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I mean still impressive

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I mean

wheat matrix
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it very well could be

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this was an attempt that died at end event

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so its possible

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Game doesn't have nearly enough DOT

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Zealot should have burn synergy like the scum has with tox

wheat matrix
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Yeah

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That was unlucky as fuck

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No

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Bad

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Stinky

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Chorus pulses should vaporize chaff instantly

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infernus exists too

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Scum has fent gun

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Other weapons

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Then I can inhale them

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Bro

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🗞️

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ALL WEAPONS

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‘No not like that it needs to be op!’

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ALL GUN SHOOT FIRE

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delicate shadow
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but yea Chorus needs to become more interactive, not turn the game off and still be a good support tool

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And it should stay that way

wheat matrix
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misty nova
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Who tasting keys anyways

delicate shadow
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like I said I do enjoy running chorus but yea, it needs a rework

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I really wanted to turn it into a minigame to pump out escalating buffs like a hunting horn vibe but oh well

violet hornet
#

Oh that's a cool idea I like that

delicate shadow
#

and stim supply already has all the stuff I'd have had as options for the buffs lmao

full nebula
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Imagine if more things were havoc viable without being ball crushing to play

violet hornet
#

Tbf the worst part of running chorus is having people be toxic to you for running chorus lmao

delicate shadow
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like it'd start with a toughness gen (not golden), then an attack speed buff, damage buff etc.

wider gap on the pulse timings too

visual stream
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Would be nice to actually make music in the music ability

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Actually sell that it's chorus instead of

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holding the letter i menacingly

violet hornet
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Chorus but it does different things based on how you sing into the mic KEKW_ogryn

chrome wave
misty nova
#

Zealot Bard Build

wheat matrix
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Why would we stick fire into all the ranged stuff

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Even scum doesn’t do that

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And that’s a ranged clas

gray ice
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I'd like to see chorus get turned into a real team buff option. Give a branch modifier node that turns it into a 15s coherency buff with +dmg, atk speed, mega stagger to all melee, and then like a single pulse at the end when the buff runs out

wheat matrix
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Yeah I mean id like to see chorus become a buff or something g

stuck thicket
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one thing i do like about chorus

wheat matrix
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As it is, it’s just pointless

stuck thicket
#

keep its ability to lobotomize bosses

wheat matrix
#

I feel like zel tree has a couple of bits that have fallen behind a lot

stuck thicket
#

whipping it out and making a plagie ogryn stub its toe is funny

wheat matrix
stuck thicket
#

this is correct

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anyway

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dear lord i suck ass at melee vet

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i play him like fotf zealot

delicate shadow
vast basin
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what if it had different effects that you could choose from in a mission by pressing a different combination of buttons

gray ice
#

DDR darktide edition

vast basin
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instead of just one buff, it could actually reward you by giving you what is needed in that situation

delicate shadow
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hunting horn welcome back

vast basin
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like, who knows only one song?

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dont answer that

sterile basalt
gray ice
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Me buffing for Big E

stuck thicket
stuck thicket
#

point and click at elites?

wheat matrix
#

Stance is just a lot of tough regen

sterile basalt
wheat matrix
#

I do melee vet with shout

stuck thicket
#

i also run shout

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wait stance buffs melee?

plush estuary
#

yes

sterile basalt
plush estuary
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Toughness regen and stagger immunity

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plus wallhacks

sterile basalt
wheat matrix
#

Yeah

sterile basalt
#

The ranged damage benefit is actually kinda secondary (it does matter)

wheat matrix
#

What refreshes exe? Elite and specialist kills?

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Just by default

sterile basalt
#

Specialists & non-Ogryn Elites

wheat matrix
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Oh that’s gonna be easy to do in havoc

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I might need to try swapping over

sterile basalt
#

Just think of it as arb’s EO but better

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It’s a “keystone” as an ability to me

misty nova
#

Anything is better than Arby's anyways chadgryn

violet hornet
wheat matrix
#

execution order is real good

visual stream
wheat matrix
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Also plays the scream as ability voice line

visual stream
#

Why not

sterile basalt
wheat matrix
#

(No way that could ever go wrong)

visual stream
#

It's not like zealot has Pickpocket

sterile basalt
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So it’s more like

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Every highlighted enemy u kill

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U get even more toughness replenishment over time

plush estuary
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tiny

wheat matrix
sterile basalt
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So you can tank damage better and do more damage at front

visual stream
wheat matrix
sterile basalt
wheat matrix
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the specialist one?

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The one that’s like, bog standard

sterile basalt
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Replenish 10% max toughness immediately on elite/special kill and 2%/s for 10s

wheat matrix
#

Yeah that

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Oh yeah that’s a ton of toughness

sterile basalt
#

Now the interesting bit is that the 2%/s are all separate instances

vast basin
#

stacks infinitely btw

wheat matrix
sterile basalt
#

They’re not stacks they’re just separate instances that all work at the same time

sterile basalt
wheat matrix
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At one point

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Lmao that’s super good

sterile basalt
#

So the result is

vast basin
#

it used to be even better

sterile basalt
#

U press F to enter stance

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Kill specials and elites like u do normally

vast basin
#

its been nerfed a few times

stuck thicket
#

i like power falchion. shame its mid.

sterile basalt
#

And get such a ridiculous level of toughness replenishment

wheat matrix
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Lmao

sterile basalt
#

That u can tank pox gas

wheat matrix
#

I’ll have to try it out

sterile basalt
#

Without bomber resist

wheat matrix
#

I need to get fov fixer

sterile basalt
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And just kill everything

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U can unironically tank pox gas better than arb does with rebreather

wheat matrix
#

Lmao

delicate shadow
wheat matrix
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How do you help falcon? Better blessings?

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Or just base stats

violet hornet
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More damatch

delicate shadow
#

better blessings would go a long way

wheat matrix
#

I mean it could also use better adms too right

sterile basalt
delicate shadow
#

yea probs

wheat matrix
full nebula
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Just give it to scum and dw about buffs ever

stuck thicket
full nebula
#

problem solved

wheat matrix
vast basin
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I think giving it BM or sunder would go a long way

sterile basalt
#

Better cleave distribution, better first target damage, better base cleave, better stagger breakpoints, slightly higher first target damage for single target atks, and better blessings

visual stream
#

I wish blessings in general were more interesting

wheat matrix
#

That’s only 6 buffs!

sterile basalt
#

And the heat gauge mechanic needs to get looked at

full nebula
#

can we do that for devils claw heavy sword and shockmauls as well

sterile basalt
#

It’s not good as a workhorse weapon which is what vet wants for melee

stuck thicket
sterile basalt
#

And as a self defence weapon it loses really badly to tac axe

wheat matrix
#

I mean relic is still decent when off

visual stream
sterile basalt
#

There’re more I just can’t name everything atm

wheat matrix
#

Fuck

visual stream
#

And we need the balance to give some weapons the room to even be able to afford taking the interesting blessings over le damag

stuck thicket
#

actually

wheat matrix
delicate shadow
stuck thicket
#

best falchion fix

visual stream
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Yeah

stuck thicket
#

give it to zealot and scum

wheat matrix
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Because if they have that leeway they will just take the damage and start mogging crushers

sterile basalt
vast basin
#

still would take relic blade over falchion

full nebula
#

actually imagine if more weapons didnt rely purely on the characters combat ability

sterile basalt
#

Zealot doesn’t have as much damage stacking as vet

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So zealot hits less hard on a weapon that’s already middling in dps

stuck thicket
#

on the topic of zealot

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can we like

wheat matrix
#

Yeah zealot is less damage stacking and more a combination of powerful damage boosting abilities and a few situational damage buffs

stuck thicket
#

get ANYTHING to buff guns

vast basin
#

no

sterile basalt
#

And there’s rly no chance falchion can compete with Rashad on hvs let’s be fr

wheat matrix
sterile basalt
stuck thicket
#

every other class can go into melee and range as they choose but zealot gets stuck with caveman status

vast basin
#

dance of death too

misty nova
wheat matrix
misty nova
#

How are you getting outdone by the shitactical axe bruv

delicate shadow
#

tac axe is good wdym

sterile basalt
wheat matrix
misty nova
#

Oh it's based on the principle that capped weapons are shit

vast basin
delicate shadow
#

capped as in cleave capped?

sterile basalt
#

I think tax axe is close to being in a perfect balance spot

misty nova
sterile basalt
#

Just buff first target damage for heavy overhead and nerf the dodge template override

misty nova
#

They removed the cap on the Chainaxe mk12 recently

delicate shadow
#

tac axe so does not need buffs

misty nova
#

But it should've been Mk4

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I like Mk4 more

sterile basalt
misty nova
#

Why's Mk4 Chaxe still capped

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😭

stuck thicket
#

i prefer mk12 chainaxe personally

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im more used to lights being my anti horde button

sterile basalt
#

I don’t think any human melee weapon should have >2.5m dodge distance template besides knife tbh

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2.75 is ridiculous

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Neither DS nor tac axe should have it

delicate shadow
#

ah righto

misty nova
sterile basalt
# delicate shadow ah righto

I think 10~15% higher first target for heavy overhead would be fine to compensate for dodge template nerf, it’s not meant to be crazy damage buff (gets like 1-2 less hit to kill h40 crusher)

wheat matrix
stuck thicket
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i use it exclusively on rampage scum so damage is a non issue

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but i see where you’re coming from

wheat matrix
#

I need to work out a weapon to use on vet

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For double barrel

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It’s probably just caxe though

stuck thicket
#

nintento ds

sterile basalt
#

Or just power sword 24/7

wheat matrix
#

Psword too slow for it imo

misty nova
wheat matrix
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Because u need to power up

stuck thicket
#

im mixed on power sword

vast basin
stuck thicket
#

like yes the active swings are baller as shit

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but like

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having to power it every 3 swings is a bit annoying

sterile basalt
#

I think dodge template overrides need to get tuned down

delicate shadow
sterile basalt
delicate shadow
#

it's very monotonous as a weapon

visual stream
#

and the one tone it monos is overpowered

wheat matrix
#

Finger breaking

stuck thicket
sterile basalt
#

It’s pretty stupid

wheat matrix
#

I mean sure but I’d want uncanny for crushers

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And Cara

sterile basalt
#

Yea u run uncanny + flesh for knife

glad ermine
sterile basalt
wheat matrix
#

Is one of them fatmangus

sterile basalt
#

I personally lean towards martyr relic or crit crusher

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But I also think zealot gets generally outclassed by rampage/crate hvs

glad ermine
#

going more towards martyr ever since the rework?

wheat matrix
#

I think scum is just really strong

sterile basalt
stuck thicket
#

scum’s really versatile

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solid class

sterile basalt
#

Even tho I think IJ is overall better

wheat matrix
#

Scum has everything yeah

sterile basalt
#

Martyr is cheaper to run

sterile basalt
delicate shadow
#

scum is strong for sure yeah

glad ermine
wheat matrix
#

It just has a ton of offensive prowess and despite only having a few defensive effects they’re all really strong

delicate shadow
#

though a lot of that is just chem toxin/needle pistol being utterly cracked

stuck thicket
#

not only can you build scum to play however you want its also really good no matter how you do it

wheat matrix
#

For some extra points

stuck thicket
#

everyone loves stimm tank, desperado trivializes the game, rampage is just straight up funny

wheat matrix
#

Everyone does not love stim crate

glad ermine
#

IJ doesn't really provide any source of damage reduction besides hubris pathing though, which is why i take it
as for desperation, depends on weapon tbh but on most of what i play it has high value

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mk3 evisc, crusher, mk2 relic etc

sterile basalt
#

Stim crate is just strong

#

I do think it’s the least flexible of the 3 builds tho

delicate shadow
#

stim crate hasn't cured my adhd so it needs buffing ngl

sterile basalt
#

It’s like 1-2 points short of feeling good to build

#

I think the 5s + linger subnode needs to be baked in

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And maybe the refresh on stim recharge/pickup baked in too?

#

Dependency’s CD rate changed to smth else

delicate shadow
#

chem dependency's pathing also irks me, like getting to the keystone is nbd but that part of the tree is just ehhhh odd

sterile basalt
stuck thicket
#

normalize barreling psykers without shield

sterile basalt
#

Coated weaponry is ass

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Toxin mania is ass

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Merge them

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The toxin reduce damage & melee kill tox’d enemy for extra toughness can prob also get merged

stuck thicket
sterile basalt
#

Reduce both’s values a bit

sullen forge
#

@green yacht @plush estuary

IMG_7028.jpg
sterile basalt
#

And get rid of that coherency radius talent

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Nobody cares

misty nova
#

Is supply crate vfx still red independently from what the cartel stimm

delicate shadow
#

coherency as a mechnic in general really doesn't feel all that spectacular

wheat matrix
#

Chem dep requiring 2 points to actually really do anything

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Is pretty shit

delicate shadow
#

interesting concept for encouraging teamplay but it's so easily ignored and frankly the game would feel a lot worse if you got actively and legitimately punished for being out of coherency

sullen forge
wheat matrix
wheat matrix
stuck thicket
sullen forge
#

Like I can’t really name many moments where there isn’t 1 melee unit slotting me

frosty herald
#

We should not turn coherency into how it is in sm2

wheat matrix
#

U fight, the fight ends, u walk to next trigger, u fight

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There’s no like real between right

chrome wave
delicate shadow
#

coherency as a vector for providing buffs via auras and such is cool but the auras generally don't matter much and it's otherwise underutilized

misty nova
green yacht
sullen forge
delicate shadow
#

you said richtofen twice

green yacht
#

thats the point though??????

sullen forge
#

True

stuck thicket
delicate shadow
#

rich (tofen)

fossil plinth
blissful sinew
#

rich be profen

sullen forge
#

If you had to trust one of the Zombies crew cast to defend you who would it be

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And why

violet hornet
#

That and taking it means you're missing out on the other two abilities which both make you do more damage

fossil plinth
delicate shadow
violet hornet
#

That and you can ledge daemonhosts, chaos spawns , and plague ogryns with it makes it not really that bad it's just situational

sullen forge
fossil plinth
#

Like how does using preach prevents you from doing damage is what im confused about

sullen forge
#

Primis

violet hornet
#

People that hate it and those that use it essentially are claiming that the people running chorus are doing nothing and asking for a free ride

sullen forge
#

Ultimus

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Or Tempus

violet hornet
stuck thicket
#

i never actually played zombies except for the shitass cold war one but the lore sounds so batshit

sullen forge
#

Ultimus - WAW-BO1
Primis - BO2-4
Tempus - BO7

fossil plinth
delicate shadow
#

man last CoD zombies I played was black ops 1 so I could not tell ya

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I guess ultimus since that's the only one I know

stuck thicket
#

that one

violet hornet
#

I agree it's probably the worst of the three zealot abilities in general but in the situations it's good in it's nearly irreplaceable. I just don't think anyone really deserves to get shit in for picking it. Save that ire for smykers whatthefuck_heresy

delicate shadow
#

oh I guess I played CoD ww2 zombies once or twice but like...does that really count

carmine falcon
#

but i unironically think book is better for players who cant kill fast since they're not losing much dps anyway

violet hornet
misty nova
#

The team doesn't need to protect you

fossil plinth
misty nova
#

The book makes you invulnerable

fossil plinth
#

Woah

misty nova
#

Not a single thing walks into you

fossil plinth
#

Even to ogryn overheads?

misty nova
#

Not a single thing shoots you

carmine falcon
#

everything staggers

misty nova
signal spoke
#

If it gets on range

stuck thicket
violet hornet
signal spoke
#

Book can also stagger and push away bosses

#

Monsters I mean

sullen forge
misty nova
#

That being said
It does have a resist_death unlisted buff

carmine falcon
gleaming furnace
delicate sequoia
#

Book good its saver of games

violet hornet
#

What it should have is a way to reward people that want more to do besides just standing there

sullen forge
#

Anyways id unironically trust Tempus Nikolai with my life learning a chunk of his lore

signal spoke
fossil plinth
#

So by using a book you can just go "f you, im not dying"?

misty nova
#

So yours and teammates health can't drop below 1 during Chorus

violet hornet
stuck thicket
signal spoke
frosty herald
#

You can still top damage with chorus

fossil plinth
violet hornet
carmine falcon
#

just make book a banner

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and u plant it

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and do things

#

wooohoooo

misty nova
stuck thicket
stuck thicket
signal spoke
#

You get about 6 or more book pulses?

fossil plinth
violet hornet
signal spoke
#

I forgot the exact amount

violet hornet
#

But that's havoc only

signal spoke
violet hornet
#

Also captains sometimes do not care iirc

misty nova
frosty herald
#

Its a radical idea but i want chorus to be the warrior priest ult

misty nova
#

Legit the only time I saw something ignore Chorus

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Was Cranial Corruption

stuck thicket
carmine falcon
#

i dont hate book like everyone else here but its a bit boring
people are too obssesed with dps tho Haha

fossil plinth
stuck thicket
#

probably

#

not ideal

violet hornet
#

I got killed during a chorus channel by a havoc captain that dropped low enough to get final toll buff

misty nova
#

Does anyone remember the 21st groaner just attacking during Chorus?

sullen forge
#

But that’s kinda the whole gimmick of Final Toll

signal spoke
#

Also book is useful for saves

sullen forge
#

50%> HP and they become completely CC immune

signal spoke
#

If your teammates are not dog shit lmao

#

And go for revive

sullen forge
delicate shadow
fossil plinth
violet hornet
#

Funny part about the captain that killed me during it was that the one other player up got him below 50% just as I popped chorus to save us

signal spoke
violet hornet
#

We wiped instantly and he blamed me for not doing enough boss damage, despite me having more than him, after he made it so I couldn't cc the boss

fossil plinth
#

So chorus does waves that apply the buff to you and teammates?

signal spoke
#

Yes

stuck thicket
#

when fatshark were making chorus they just looked at vet shout and thought ”how shit can we make this”

sullen forge
fossil plinth
#

What was the thing about the final toll

signal spoke
#

It grants golden toughness if you take the upgrade

sullen forge
#

Max Cleave Bonesaw Hive Scum