zealot-class

[real sonnet]

Ogryn has a mega racism Ogryn talent tho

+30% dmg done and -30% dmg taken from them

[copper hawk]

Oggy became more of a slower Zealot with higher highs and higher lows

Oggy has a lot of flat damage buffs, so does Vet

... and psyker

... and arbites

[sterile stone]

Aye big fella when you get that free time

Lemme get that venator blueprint

For the low of course

[copper hawk]

Zeal has the least of these kinds of talents in their tree of all the careers

[deft badge]

Im convinced zealot is their least favorite class im ngl

[copper hawk]

We have two I think

[real sonnet]

Idk they really should rework purge the unclean to change it from unyielding+infested to monstrosities+ogryns

[gray ice]

You on?

[real sonnet]

Just like the other classes talents

[copper hawk]

Purge the Uncleab

Unclean*

Sustained Assault

[sterile stone]

Bout to be, lemme finish my boba

[copper hawk]

And that middle left one

3

[copper hawk]

Literally lmfao

[gray ice]

I'll be on in like 20

[misty nova]

While that's true
Zealot kinda just rolls over crushers and alike

[copper hawk]

It'll never happen

[misty nova]

So I guess it evens out

[real sonnet]

Worse than veteran

[sterile stone]

Word word

[real sonnet]

Is the thing

[copper hawk]

I think Oggy has a better ttk on Crushers than Zeal

[signal spoke]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xfuuRe49c7E this one is hilarious asf, the body movement is so good

[copper hawk]

And so does Psyker

[misty nova]

Path literally describe zealot as Krak cosplayer

So if anything

[copper hawk]

Without chastise

[misty nova]

Zealot is excellent at taking down the big fellas

[real sonnet]

Veteran is better tho

Finesse Melee alone

[copper hawk]

Zealot is great with certain weapons

[real sonnet]

That's my issue here

[copper hawk]

One of which is just a busted weapon

[misty nova]

I see
I see

[copper hawk]

The other is a gimmick weapon with clear drawbacks

[real sonnet]

If you put a Zealot/Vet with Knife/DS against an ogryn

Vet kills it faster

[copper hawk]

Yeah

Knife is better on Vet

Same with the Rashad

[real sonnet]

DS too

And any other finesse weakspot related weapon

[copper hawk]

Vet has a two hit kill on Crushers with the Rashad

Ah, makes sense

Throughline is finesse weapons

[real sonnet]

And I'm pretty sure it's basically because of the ogryn racism talent

[misty nova]

Yeah but it's not because of 1 +Ogryn talent alone

[real sonnet]

Yes

[copper hawk]

If Vet had the RB theyd be better at it too

[real sonnet]

I meannnn crusher breakpoints ehhhhh

[copper hawk]

Zealot is missing a lot of its identity right now

[visual stream]

Big Zealot wants you to think this is untrue

[real sonnet]

I'd say they'd be very similar

[copper hawk]

Pieces of it are present and done better in the other classes

[real sonnet]

If zealot had the ogryn racism talent

[visual stream]

Vet hits chaxe crusher one shot easier than zealot

WITHOUT the ogryn racism talent IIRC

[copper hawk]

It's ridiculous really

[misty nova]

Superiority
Precision
Desperado
Hell even FT

[real sonnet]

Desperado indeed busted af xddd

[copper hawk]

Idk what Zeal really does better than the other classes - I think mobility sustain? Like a dodge tank? But idk what else

[real sonnet]

25% perma finesse meanwhile zealot has +50% on dodge for just 3s

[misty nova]

Do we count skirmisher as well

[real sonnet]

[copper hawk]

Crits are done better on vet and psyker

[deft badge]

I love the pose he hits when he says "the people of ny need me"

[copper hawk]

Arbites has a higher base crit chance

[misty nova]

Or you know
Tinkerer Krak

[real sonnet]

He survives better

[copper hawk]

Oggy and arbites tank and frontline better

[deft badge]

Clutch imho

[real sonnet]

But does less than Psyker and Vet

[copper hawk]

Psyker frontlines better

[misty nova]

But still gets outfinessed

[copper hawk]

Alright imma be real

7.5 base crit on arbites shouldve never got the green light

[real sonnet]

Just give me ogryn racism talent on Zealot and that should solve most of my issues

[visual stream]

Kid named Iron Will

[copper hawk]

Shouldve been given to either psyker or zeal if anybody needed higher base crit

[deft badge]

Idk why its 7.5 base with everything else Arb can do but uh

[exotic plaza]

I mean

[copper hawk]

Arbites shouldve got the same base crit ogryn has

[misty nova]

2 something

[signal spoke]

Real shit, also love when he moves with the "I embody true spider power"

[copper hawk]

There's next to no crit buff talents in the arb tree

It's literally just a straight buff over the other careers with no talent tree justification

Ogryn, but better

Ogryn already being strong as fuck

I blame epic mole 4 it

Taxe on arb (cuz why not, cole's fav wpn) w increased base crit

Hrmeth ,,

I wondar ,,

[misty nova]

It's ok

[visual stream]

The Reddit theory is actually true???

[misty nova]

Taxe is shit anyways

[south prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaRWroSSoL4

[visual stream]

Hmm... I need to think about this.....

[sterile stone]

@spare talon Fix zealot

[south prism]

oh my god it's vermintide

[misty nova]

Speaking of vt2

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[misty nova]

New map soon

[real sonnet]

Also why did they nerf riposte into +15% dmg

[copper hawk]

Is that a reddit theory

[real sonnet]

+20% was fine

[copper hawk]

Cuz zealot is broken

[hard nexus]

tbf as zealot you have that up basically all the time in combat

[copper hawk]

And needed that 5% nerf

[sterile stone]

If it's got coop, I'm sold.

[real sonnet]

This is not true tho

Uptime is not as high as you think

[misty nova]

Can't have everything (it was a weird nerf)

[visual stream]

Except for the times when dodging an attack doesn't count as dodging an attack for some reason

[copper hawk]

Unjustified nerf

[hard nexus]

if i am in any combat where i need that damage, its up

[real sonnet]

Can't have anything apparently

[copper hawk]

Vibes based patching

[hard nexus]

slaughtering chaff, you dont even need it

but against elites, youll be dodging attacks

[real sonnet]

Mods like uptime show the uptime % amount during combat

People tried it aaaand Duellist wasn't up that much

[hard nexus]

shrug !

i have it up enough

[gray ice]

It's up when I'm fighting packs of ragers so we good

[real sonnet]

It's still objective to say vet's Desperado > Zealot's duellist

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/806714809462161478/1415479272503771266/1.gif

[hard nexus]

the only time its not up when you really need it is if a boss is targeting someone else

[copper hawk]

We have a lot of similar talents with Vet

That are simple better

[real sonnet]

Fatass neco

[copper hawk]

At arms length is a better ewew relative to class roles

[misty nova]

Full of pilk

[copper hawk]

The numbers should be swapped but what do I Know

[north sedge]

duelist wouldn't show up having alot of uptime since it's both a short duration and consumed when you stab something

[copper hawk]

Frontline tank getting less tness in active melee combat than the rear or backline sharpshooter

[real sonnet]

WHEN VET GETS +25% DMG FOR SLIDING 4 TIMES MEANWHILE ZEALOT GETS +15% FOR DODGING SUCCESSFULLY CONSECUTIVE TIMES

[misty nova]

It's ok just replace impassible with Ogryn prejudice node

[hard nexus]

its consumed when you hit something ?

[misty nova]

I'm all in

[copper hawk]

Whose other tness regen options all play around eliminating key targets on the battlefield

Talent rewards you more for being disengaged than ewew rewards you for being engaged

Luigi wins by doing nothing

[real sonnet]

Just change purge the unclean in a way it includes crushers and that'd be good

[misty nova]

But Ogryns aren't unclean

When was the last time they took a shower

😭

[visual stream]

Lets you kill a crusher in 15 dclaw parries instead of 20

[hard nexus]

i wish psyker didnt exist so the entire game didnt balance around infinite cleave,,

[north sedge]

i may be misremembering that last part, first one still stands though

[copper hawk]

I wish infinite cleave didnt exist

[hard nexus]

yeah its not consumed

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hawk-tuah-forsaken-roblox-c00lkidd-roblox-picmix-gif-15637717384950798881

[hard nexus]

3s is a short uptime yah but

[misty nova]

I wish psyker had more infinite cleave

[visual stream]

Just kill flamer and purgatus man

Remove them from gaem

[copper hawk]

Leave both just get rid of inf cleave

[sterile stone]

Where's Josh, he could probably tism them numbers and let us know with 100%

Or Ex

[copper hawk]

Except on like

Staggers

That are right in front of you

[deft badge]

I wish people would stop trying to tell me psyker isnt the most comically broken class in the game

[proud crescent]

Sustained assault is a must?

[copper hawk]

Yes

Free damage

[real sonnet]

ofc

+20% dmg for just hitting

[hard nexus]

infinite cleave should only exist within the immediate proximity of the source, (explosives, flamer, etc) then start counting the cleave after a couple meters

[trail walrus]

https://vibes3.funnyjunk.com/hdgifs/When+an+american+male+is+born_aa8471_12853708-HD-AV1.mp4

When you see a Deamonhost and you feel a boss fight coming...only the zealot does this

[hard nexus]

that way grenades stay strong

[misty nova]

No bro but you see
Psyker is a glass cannon

https://tenor.com/view/neil-patrick-harris-gun-to-head-kill-me-now-how-i-met-your-mother-gif-13473481

[deft badge]

I've played pysker, I don't believe that

Ik joke but like

[hard nexus]

glass cannon bro trust me bro glass cannon

[deft badge]

Psyker feels arb durable to me

[copper hawk]

I disagree tbh

[trail walrus]

Glass cannon

[copper hawk]

Grenades shouldnt have inf cleave

The cleave and damage should be scaled to difficulty

[hard nexus]

only for like 2 meters ! then cleave counts !

[misty nova]

Glass cannon except we forgot to add the glass

[sterile stone]

Me in a match with Cole and this dude is purposely aggro'ing ever DH to one shot it.

[copper hawk]

But not inf cleave

[trail walrus]

same lol

[copper hawk]

Explosions are absorbed by things immediately around them

[deft badge]

Nah but you see we must buff everything to be on the same level there will be no nerfs

[hard nexus]

i honestly doubt anything will player based will scale with difficulty

the only thing close is ogryn rock kill flags against mutants

[copper hawk]

Makes grenades like shredders and big nuke bomb not just throw and forget screen wipers but u need 2 use ur brain and time ur toss

Or chaff will eat the explosion with their bulk

[misty nova]

The shockwave from an explosion ignoring a solid mass because it's funny

[copper hawk]

(Like they do on tabletop and in real life)

[deft badge]

Wild video link

[copper hawk]

Marine jumps on grenade to save battle buddy

[north sedge]

ogryn now has to draw a clock in order to throw frag bomb

[copper hawk]

Battle buddy dies 15 m away due to inf cleave

[hard nexus]

LMAO

[real sonnet]

https://youtu.be/eEq-Ij0-YBA?si=UHTdcijH1jtJC58W

Finesse vet makes Zealot cry in the corner

xdddd

[hard nexus]

i think the simplest and most plausible solution is the removal of infinite cleave as a whole

but i think my solution would be a nice middle ground,,

[real sonnet]

I don't think infinite cleave is the issue

The issue is that it's not taken into account

[hearty nebula]

focus target

retching

[frosty herald]

just oneshot the maulerfiend with argenta

[hard nexus]

no it is, thats the problem

the reason h40 is just 90% crushers and bulwarks is because everything else dies to infinite cleave

[misty nova]

Arby's still not beating the can't 1 shot allegations

[real sonnet]

A solution I'd like is that soulblaze / burn build up is not diminished by the amount of targets

[hard nexus]

ive dealt more than 7.5k damage with her in one burst

[real sonnet]

So for example

The Target in the front gets 100% of the current burn

[hard nexus]

the target died before i could see the full damage but there were still like 7 rounds left in the burst

[real sonnet]

The one behind only 80%

And so and so until it's 0% DoT build, just base damage

[misty nova]

Argenta mentioned
Either brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Or doom OST starts playing in the background

Shotgun Argie is a lot of fun

[real sonnet]

Right right but what if the targets behind others took less and less DoT build up

[hard nexus]

shrug,,

[real sonnet]

This way infinite cleave does exist, but hurts targets being blocked a lot less

[deft badge]

Shotguns for Abe tbh

[misty nova]

I rarely used ranged on him

[hard nexus]

arc raider time

400 loadouts to stella montis !

[real sonnet]

I was using every possible dmg node and even then Havoc 40 ogryns take years with Arbie xddd

When using shock maul ofc

[deft badge]

Touché, i gave sargento a heavy bolter tbh

[real sonnet]

I think it's fine tho

[misty nova]

Even base Ogryn take forever on arbys

Because Arby's can't one shot

[sterile stone]

I'ma just say my peace on this right...

[real sonnet]

Best keystone

[misty nova]

Like I've been saying this whole time

[misty nova]

Like I've been mocking this whole time

Love it

[proud crescent]

Man I want to find a way to pick this node, somebody could give me some advice on what I could sacrifice to get it?

[sterile stone]

If y'all have grievences with balance, why not talk it out with the playtesters that frequently come in here to start a constructive conversation instead of malding all day....

[hearty nebula]

nah

[misty nova]

What node is even that

[hearty nebula]

post full tree

[sterile stone]

The best place to get your voices heard are the people literally testing the content and offering feedback.

[proud crescent]

Some stamina on crit

[copper hawk]

[misty nova]

Oh I just gave up completely

[proud crescent]

Sure sure, on my way

[real sonnet]

I love picking it up tho

[misty nova]

I kinda don't care about balancing atp

[real sonnet]

On my book build

[copper hawk]

Yah

Game toast

[misty nova]

Just make fun of it

[copper hawk]

Hive ganger

Last bullet

[proud crescent]

It feels nice, doesn't? specially in buidls when you push attack a lot

[copper hawk]

Last nail

[north sedge]

they just get this way when it's been a minute since an update

[copper hawk]

Sobs and weeps and cries over no admech

[real sonnet]

Knife mk6 yes

I pick it on my knife mk6 build

[copper hawk]

Cant make a magos w an omnissian axe and plasma gun named pasqal

[misty nova]

Pasqal never clicked with me

[solar gorge]

next year for surze this time

[copper hawk]

Nah

[hard nexus]

i yeaaarrnn for pvp rn

[misty nova]

Maybe I should give him another try

[copper hawk]

U get uh

Uhhh

[hard nexus]

toro and renegade

this will probably not go well,,

[proud crescent]

Full build, I want to sacrifice something to be able to get no respite node

[copper hawk]

Man I wish i had those blueprintz..

Do u have uh

[sterile stone]

I'm fully convinced people play this game out of pure spite and nothing else.

[copper hawk]

A t3 wb

Gunbench i mean

[misty nova]

Unfaltering

Drop it

[hearty nebula]

what melee are you using

[hard nexus]

yah i found the last rusted gear for it yesterday

[copper hawk]

Aaaand not playin

Datz it

Fomo'd

[hard nexus]

when u get back i can help u get it

[copper hawk]

Dustz off handz

Closez laptop and walkz away

Gootbye gnarp raider

[north sedge]

it's a mix of unhealthy obsession instead of playing other stuff and relaxing, and weird anxiety that builds between updates

[misty nova]

I played too much Psyker on RT maybe I should go back to my crime lord roots

[proud crescent]

For this build? the Crusher

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-eule-storch-gif-12337620960341487154

[sterile stone]

Was this shit like this in VT2?

[gray ice]

Maybe they should try raid: shadow legends

[proud crescent]

Uhhh idk I have been playing with it for a while now

[copper hawk]

It's entirely different for me

[misty nova]

Yeah so you know it's optional

[copper hawk]

This game has something other games dont have

[sterile stone]

Can we ban this guy for spamming ads

[copper hawk]

It's an oddly specific thing I enjoy and cant seem to find anywhere else

And every time I come back the way I like to play gets a little worse

But there's really no alternative to this kind of game

[misty nova]

Sure, move tech or qol whatever
But you can live without it

[proud crescent]

Uhh maybe I could drop ulfaltering but... it also feels nice

[copper hawk]

I can play my tf2 or my gnarp raiders

But only darktide is like darktide

[misty nova]

Well the other option I would recommend dropping is ew
Because second wind is a thing

So uh

[north sedge]

dunno i didn't really hang arount there, playing vt2 very casually

[visual blade]

praise the emperor, for martyrdom is no longer just worse than the other keystones

[misty nova]

Pick your poison

[proud crescent]

Yeah, tried battlefield 1 and was deadass trying to get into melee

[copper hawk]

Lmfak

Lmfao

[proud crescent]

What node is ew

[hearty nebula]

try this instead

[violet hornet]

Its weird seeing my usual game group seemingly want this niche and trying to fill it with helldivers 2 and killing floor 3 only to be dissatisfied, while entirely panning darktide

[copper hawk]

Ive just given up entirely on games before

[scarlet talon]

I think this is true for most long time players, it’s too bad devs and play testers are sort of ignoring player feedback because there’s too many helldivers type “buff only” opinions mixed into genuinely useful feedback to improve some stuff and nerf others

[copper hawk]

Especially if it's done better elsewhere

Like bf6

I uninstalled it before I came down for demob

[proud crescent]

No crits?

[copper hawk]

Cant refund it but

[hearty nebula]

honestly

[misty nova]

Top right one is ewew
Or is that vicious offering

[hearty nebula]

if i were you

[copper hawk]

Wont be playing it anymore

[hearty nebula]

i'd drop BP entirely

[misty nova]

Anyways you can drop that because second wind exists

[proud crescent]

Man where is ewew node lol it sounds funny

[copper hawk]

There's no clear design direction for the game and my favorite class seems to get weaker than the other classes every patch

[proud crescent]

I'm bad with the names what is that one

[hearty nebula]

left keystone

[copper hawk]

With random nerfs or tweaks no one asked for

[gray ice]

Enemies within enemies without should be top tree like mid left

[proud crescent]

Ohhh blazing piety

[misty nova]

Enemies Within Enemies without

[hearty nebula]

EWEW is very top of tree

[misty nova]

Top right

[proud crescent]

Ah I see I see, checking

[misty nova]

Fuck

Top left

[scarlet talon]

Why not take crit CDR since you’re using BP anyways? Save a couple points to use for the bleed damage talents, makes more of a difference when using fotf than you think

[misty nova]

I got my sides mixed

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[copper hawk]

Ur using the crusher ?

[hearty nebula]

crits = not guaranteed
weakpoints = entirely dependent on how well you aim

[proud crescent]

Ye

[hearty nebula]

ij is also just a flat boost to your damage all the time basically

[proud crescent]

Whats ij

[copper hawk]

Id use this w the crusher personally

Inexorable Judgement

Right keystone

[scarlet talon]

BP gives you reliable crits and CDR lasts 3s. You’re definitely critting at least once every 3s with crusher, slower weapons may be better with weak spots

[proud crescent]

Why no good balance

[copper hawk]

Dont need it

[proud crescent]

Also is good balance a must btw?

[copper hawk]

Not necessarily

[delicate shadow]

you don't need it but it's a must

[proud crescent]

If not then I could sacrifice it and get no respite instead

[misty nova]

Optional yeah

[copper hawk]

Woopz 4got 2 swap from my evis - drop invocation of death for the right bottom side uh

Cdr

[sterile stone]

Word, I wanted to get into the game, but it's just not my tempo

[copper hawk]

I 4get the name

[proud crescent]

Ok, I guess I could sacrifice unfaltering then, a shame it feels nice

[hearty nebula]

yeah and pious cutthroat is 2s 100% cdr on weakpoint hit

and you're aiming for weakpoints 100% of the time anyways on crusher

[misty nova]

It feels nice but you can live without it

[hearty nebula]

because it's a finesse weapon

[misty nova]

Nerfed

75%

[deft badge]

VT2 had less 40k fans playing one of the only good(feeling to play) 40k games ime

[scarlet talon]

It’s been changed to 75% but again, similar CDR but you save a point. No reason not to use crit CDR when using BP most of the time is my point

[copper hawk]

Dere we go

[proud crescent]

Btw when using the knife, is unfaltering already build in that weapon?

Idk if I explained myself corrrect there

[misty nova]

Huh
Oh Games Lantern still says 100%

[wraith halo]

have i been using crusher wrong ....

[misty nova]

But kuli says 75%

[copper hawk]

Crusher doesnt scale well with finesse

[misty nova]

Who is able to contact GL

[copper hawk]

It has two attacks iirc that have finesse as a modifier for the attack

[heady rapids]

im able to contact DN

[delicate shadow]

unfaltering isn't built into it per se but heavy spam is a movetech iirc

[heady rapids]

it speeds you up when you do the heavy

[copper hawk]

BP if run w the Crusher is generally meant for the crit related benefits

[heady rapids]

so you dont really feel unfaltering doing anything there

[hearty nebula]

yerh

[copper hawk]

Tdr, cdr, Stalwart etc

[frosty herald]

do use unfaltering on knife itl feel much much smoother

[misty nova]

Tell em that Deez nuts (ha got em) got changed recently

[heady rapids]

dont use unfaltering on knife

it doesnt make a difference

[scarlet talon]

It has good finesse on push attack, sort of a hidden stat. BP with FOTF give surprisingly high uptime on bleed damage buffs too while being super tanky, IJ is great for dodges and extra attack speed though

[heady rapids]

like at all

[hearty nebula]

tl;dr it has finesse scaling but isn't a crit weapon

[heady rapids]

waste of a talent point there

[violet hornet]

If you repeatedly tap the hotkey for drawing your melee weapon while holding heavy attacks, you'll get the move speed buff of charging a heavy without ever actually slowing down to perform one

[copper hawk]

Sludge

[hearty nebula]

IJ is straight up 20% extra damage (i forgor if add/mult) if you have max stacks

presumably additive

after other stuff

idk

[carmine lance]

true, but martyrdom gives more damage

ij is if you need the dodge

[misty nova]

+50% melee

[delicate shadow]

Martyrdom is the sigma build

[copper hawk]

Martydom

[carmine lance]

on god emperor

[delicate shadow]

skibidi males

[copper hawk]

Pukes in mouth

[violet hornet]

Ligma build

[proud crescent]

Goodbye unfaltering 😔

[hearty nebula]

shartyrdom

[delicate shadow]

they hate us cause they ain't us

[violet hornet]

Karkyrdom

[sullen forge]

So glad the new DN class is getting added

[misty nova]

Blitz: got em

[heady rapids]

https://fixvx.com/BluebriarArts/status/1990917429577609503?s=20

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[misty nova]

"Yells HA! really loud, dealing mental damage and restoring toughness"

[hearty nebula]

NOOOOO

[carmine lance]

dn class is going to be better than every other class on god

[hearty nebula]

THGE KITY

😭

[violet hornet]

Dive nanger

[delicate shadow]

I think people will come around to having fun on da scum

[frosty herald]

NAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hearty nebula]

they had me sold with dual wield & rocket launcher blitz

[modern lintel]

https://x.com/BluebriarArts/status/1990917370970583220?s=20

❥ hazel ︻デ═一 (@BluebriarArts)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X · Nov 18, 2025, 10:57 PM

[delicate shadow]

even if it's not compelling as an aesthetic or w/e

[hearty nebula]

like its not that fuckin deep bro

[scarlet talon]

Don’t care about hive scum, waiting on DN class to drop

[hearty nebula]

i think its fine as an aesthetic people are just bitches

[misty nova]

I mean

[hearty nebula]

who want to bitch for the pure sake of it

[delicate shadow]

I agree

[misty nova]

If it plays like zealot

I'll have fun

And hell it might

[delicate shadow]

but zealot SUX

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/revolver-ocelot-gaming-mgs-guns-gif-17353618

[misty nova]

Thank you all remembered the melee enjoyers

Now

[hearty nebula]

it could've literally been a xenos (coolest shit ever) being added to the roster and people would've gone "BUT WHERE ADMECH" regardless

[misty nova]

Are their melee going to be good

[scarlet talon]

Your opinion is wrong because play testers told me zealot is viable

[delicate shadow]

legit

[misty nova]

Don't answer that

[heavy edge]

Admech sucks

Zealot thammer boinking is the way

[frosty herald]

i hope hive scum will have access to a 2 handed weapon

[delicate shadow]

I am a playtester and I'm telling you zealot sucks

it's TOO viable and that's a problem

[frosty herald]

maybe crusher can become the universal twohander

[hearty nebula]

Heavy Sword

🙂

[delicate shadow]

we need to nerf everything, twice maybe thrice even!!!

[hearty nebula]

Arbites isn't OP enough, they need HSword to reach that status

[delicate shadow]

by like 0.39% just to fuck with people

[deft badge]

Can I ask you a question about the new class? Ik you have a NDA or whatever but I'm not sure how all encompassing it is.

[misty nova]

Ok but a crowbar is not the best 1 hander existing

[visual blade]

why are we advocating for nerfing things in a pve game 🥀

[hearty nebula]

the answer is no

[misty nova]

So maybe it's a 2 hander

[delicate shadow]

you can ask, there's a high likelihood I'm telling you NDA tho

[frosty herald]

quickpaw came out and said water cartel is a hive ganger background

[tranquil bone]

God I hope Zola has lines about that lol

[misty nova]

And it's not a real nerf
Just placebo

💀

[hearty nebula]

quickpawj-

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-snapped-sad-gif-22165289

[frosty herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169036792360603700/1435071859111497850/GIFs_Shitposting__20251103_4.gif

[delicate shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-gif-24825263

[formal umbra]

Because if we buff everything then the game becomes too easy and the only way to get challenged is via bullshit unfun difficulty (havoc 40)

[scarlet talon]

Remove every ability except chorus, riposte needs to be nerfed to 5% damage buffs after 10 dodges, until death now refreshes after 30s, zealot is now the most viable class

[misty nova]

They should make book be up as long as you hold the button

No CDR as well

[deft badge]

How do you feel about Scums state of balance? I'm currently attributing Arb release to the bugs and the fact arb had a new iteration of the tree everyone got later on that they felt drastically better with, so I'm wondering/hoping Scum will drop with less of a monumental number difference cause its tree will be more in line with everyone elses post rework.

[misty nova]

Like is Zealot stupid

Just hold that up

[north sedge]

Just nerf psword again

[hearty nebula]

Remove power cycler and make it 1 powered swing only

Make every vet main collectively shit their pants

[sullen forge]

Imagine being given a rending talent that’s actually fucking useless

[visual blade]

Illisi power sword

[sullen forge]

Extreme levels of trolling on Hsword

[misty nova]

1 is already too much

[tranquil bone]

I'd be shocked if scum launches anywhere under extremely strong. DLC classes being goofy and getting nerfed is ancient tradition back to VT2

[misty nova]

[misty nova]

Bro it has infinite ammo

[deft badge]

I would too tbh, but I am curious

[deft badge]

Tbh thats dlc cycle for most games I play now

Launch busted to rake in sales

Nerf in ~2 months

Arb didnt really get hard nerfed tho

They got dog bugfixed iirc, the actual nerfs were light

[delicate shadow]

not something I can comment on

[void bison]

I think perchance darktide could be a better balanced game

[deft badge]

Alright, thank you either way.

[violet hornet]

I first noticed it with league of legends in like 2010, release broken new character and get early adopter money, then nerf for balance before next one does the same

[delicate shadow]

I think Reginald has a vid on youtube going over everything he can (legally) discuss about hive scum tho

[void bison]

hive scum interests me i dont get why there is so much disappointment

[deft badge]

I'll give it a look, ty. Ik NDAs can be uh. Fun.

[violet hornet]

Something to be said for balancing something new and unfamiliar with someone people are already comfortable with but it always seems to go a bit too far

[visual blade]

question about scum: what do they actually play like? from the trailer it felt like a mixing of zealot with gun-heavy veteran and i worry they'll just be a middle ground class

[north sedge]

Ok very serious hive scum question, will they have customizable genitalia

[delicate shadow]

people gaslit themselves into thinking it was a guaranteed admech

[void bison]

hive ganger was something found in data mining anyways wasn't it

[deft badge]

Hive scum looks wildly fun but i am fundamentally opposed to dual wield costing 12 dollars or whatever your currency equivalent is, is my stance rn.

[delicate shadow]

Krall can do whatever you need I'm sure

[void bison]

I always assumed it was either a gang member or some variation of admech like a combat servitor or something

or a trader guy I think was another one

[tranquil bone]

It seems mechanically interesting and like fun gameplay it's just kinda generic theming

[deft badge]

I agree with that too tbh

[misty nova]

Ranged zealot

[deft badge]

Maybe GW releases the vaults on Munda stuff for em

[visual blade]

i don't understand how it would be generic

[void bison]

whats the lore reason we are letting them take fentanyl

[deft badge]

It doesn't inspire awe in me

[visual blade]

because both veteran and zealot are immensely generic if scum is deemed so

[north sedge]

Gutter punk is pretty specific

[deft badge]

We're already taking combat drugs tbf, them having them isnt that different

[visual blade]

the fenty fold rejuvenates them before battle ⚔️

[void bison]

I think the chem stuff and dual wielding is unique enough

[misty nova]

You can barely see a priest on Zealot

Barely

[visual blade]

it's right there in the name, though: zealot. not preacher, just some guy who's deep into the faith

[void bison]

ive heard they have a rocket launcher too

is that an ability or a gun

[tranquil bone]

It's a blitz

[visual blade]

we're getting borderlands characters in darktide now

[misty nova]

Yeah but Zealot is a broad range term, so Zealot should be able to look like anything

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-anger-psycho-krieg-red-gif-24975012

[north sedge]

Hive punks are nothing new to 40k, at all

[visual blade]

i'm more thinking

https://tenor.com/view/borderland-salvador-borderlands2-gunzerker-bullets-gif-13510226

[misty nova]

“That was so much fun. The idea came pretty early on because we were like ‘if we make a projectile weapon only exist as a Blitz, we can really crank the effect’. Because we can make sure that it doesn’t have too much ammo, or crazy numbers or doesn’t scale weird.” ~ Teodor

[tranquil bone]

I really hope they deliver on that

[void bison]

I dont trust Teodor

[violet hornet]

Yeah people keep saying drug man is kreig, but he's dual weilding and getting infinite ammo and using rocket launchers which screams salvador to me

[tranquil bone]

Actually strong rocket launcher sounds hilariously fun

[misty nova]

Apparently also on the middle tree
The ruffian tree
The melee tree

[delicate shadow]

they finally learned from trollhammer torpedo

[violet hornet]

Watch him be 4'8" and we'll know for sure

[misty nova]

A rocket launcher

On the melee tree

[scarlet talon]

@delicate shadow have you tried the crowbar, and is it as based as shovel we need to know pls

[tranquil bone]

I need this thing to delete rager blobs at minimum

[void bison]

I just like kriegs trailer so I posted krieg but hive scum seems closer to psycho than vault dweller dwarf

[visual blade]

because "haha crazy psycho character. it's krieg from centerlands!"

[delicate shadow]

no, yes

[void bison]

turn around pretty lady!!!!!

[misty nova]

Wish they did that with Grenadier Gauntlet

[violet hornet]

I just want to hit my head and yell about the voices

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-22469622

[delicate shadow]

or rumbler

[violet hornet]

Hmm that kinda sounds like psyker

[misty nova]

Skullcrusher Grenadier Gauntlet when

[real sonnet]

Doom guy shoulder mounted rumbler launcher

[visual blade]

pretty lady best character in the whole series ||and they have her die in a cutscene to the worst villain ever written||

[misty nova]

But yeah

The Ruffian tree seems like

[void bison]

my favorite borderlands character is claptrap he is SO funny

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-moon-knight-marvel-gif-25255244

This but 40k

[visual blade]

borderlands 2 claptrap? peak
borderlands 3 claptrap? instant jail time

[sterile basalt]

I doubt it's good

it'll prob just be a fun gimmick

[north sedge]

My favorite borderlands character is Kevin hart

[misty nova]

Eh it's a blitz

And blitz are allowed to be good

[void bison]

I played gage and krieg in borderlands 2

[misty nova]

Definitely expect it to have 2 charges though

💀

[sterile basalt]

if the rocket can't 1 shot a bulwark on hitting shield it's kinda meh

[visual blade]

🥀

[real sonnet]

Kraks need a nerf xddd

[sterile basalt]

nah, buff

[tranquil bone]

I'm really curious about those throwing knife style flash bombs as well. Depending on how they are implemented that could be crazy good.

[real sonnet]

Revert the increased grenade buff

[misty nova]

But like that's kraks identity

[real sonnet]

Make em back to 2 base

Shrimple as

[visual blade]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-as-that-clash-royale-hee-hee-hee-haw-gif-25054781

[tranquil bone]

AOE stagger and suppression fast enough to weave into combos with built in regen

[real sonnet]

Being able to have up to 4 kraks is stupid xddd

[jagged cradle]

and why is it stupid

[visual blade]

mark monstrosity, prepare for grenade volley

[real sonnet]

Because of the fact that they deal like +10k (maybe even 20k) with tinkerer, have a chance to be dupped, regen every 60s, and can also be regen by killing elites

So putting a hard limit on 3 instead of 4 should help a

[misty nova]

Oh I also expect new blessings to be added

[visual blade]

add to that an increased possiblity of double throw thanks to having another grenade on hand to gamble and grenade tinker...

[hexed igloo]

I like moxx

[sterile basalt]

no

they do 9750 on crusher with tinkerer

the tax is dumb

[visual blade]

remember that every vet and their mother now have field improv

[real sonnet]

The darn monstrosities surely take more

[visual blade]

because it's literally right there

[real sonnet]

Fatasses

[sterile basalt]

they do not

[scarlet talon]

For real, you can go into a rotten armor game with legitimately any garbage build you can run around the map with and get carried by krak nades wiping monstrosities and elite hordes

[spare talon]

It wouldn't be dumb if they actually reduced the spawn rates reasonably like they should have

[real sonnet]

I'm pretty sure with normal damage buffs like skirmisher that happens

[sterile basalt]

krak should just have an instakill override within its blast center at base, without tinkerer

[misty nova]

But Cole
They told me they reduced

They wouldn't lie to good old little me

[visual blade]

nah what the fuck is clueful

i'm crine

[real sonnet]

reduces amount of enemies

Adds rotten armour modifier that replaces hordes with armored shit

Thanks and have fun

[deft badge]

It is such a fatshark decision

Like I'm not even surprised

Idk what else you'd expect

[spare talon]

There's a lot wrong with how it was done tho
It wasn't reduced enough and they just shifted the spwan cost on the other enemies
So now instead of four crushers and four maulers
You have three crushers and six maulers
Yippee!!

[misty nova]

Oh they shifted? I didn't know that

Marking it down

[visual blade]

mark? focus target mark? court mandated pinging?

[visual stream]

Swift Certainty if it didn't suck dick

[visual blade]

[plucky sparrow]

I wonder how much the angle will actually be

[deft badge]

WHC got me in the habit of pinging everything anyway tbh

[scarlet talon]

Yeah so we balanced the spawns except we buffed crusher HP and also didn’t actually decrease spawns. Buffing enemies to balance powercreep works guys, trust me

[tame sluice]

I kinda like crushers having more HP

[sterile basalt]

nah it's just a bit over 10k on monster

[misty nova]

There is/was a blessing like that in the code

So I expect it to be added

Or it was added for the testing purposes

[spare talon]

You're so right
Ten million more buffs to psyker please

[real sonnet]

Doesn't Swift certainty also increase the Sprint speed by 10%

That's very good

[visual stream]

I'm guessing they didn't make crushers cost more DirectorBux, they just made them less frequently picked?

Thought it was like 5%

[real sonnet]

If anything like the wind is worse than Swift certainty

[visual stream]

Mostly talking about the dodge part though

[misty nova]

Yeah we buffed maulers to have 3700 hp (100 HP more than old crusher) and made maulers more frequent

[real sonnet]

I guess it depends on the number

You need to be 90° I think to normally sprint dodge bullets

(correct me of I'm wrong)

[tame sluice]

Cool :)

[real sonnet]

It'll depend what that number woll be

[tame sluice]

Maulers are much more varied in ways to kill them than Crusherss

[visual stream]

Nearly horizontal compared to the bullet income, if you were looking at it top-down

[tame sluice]

many ranged weapons have good enough flak damage to just chew through them

they take more damage from DoTs than crushers

[misty nova]

That is true, however

[tame sluice]

and the usual "can't kill carapace" weapons can just bodyshot them

[real sonnet]

I'm gonna drop a hot take

[misty nova]

My melee doesn't struggle with carapace so just go for the head

[real sonnet]

But crushers should have either unyielding or flak heads

[tame sluice]

I want maulers to be emphasized more as the common tanky enemy

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-nuts-thor-gif-20992708

[tame sluice]

And Crushers being the THICK boys one step removed from a monstrosity

[delicate shadow]

it would be nice to see the armour system get a slight overhaul so y'know, carapace isn't the only one that matters

[scarlet talon]

Psyker needs a couple more buffs to be viable guys, sciers seems a bit weak right now

[misty nova]

Legit want maulers to have a push
Like them blackrats Muhfuh

[frosty herald]

blunt weapons should deal more damage to armor and blades to flesh

[real sonnet]

I mean just delete or meganerf most rending/brittleness blessings

And nerf carapace

[tame sluice]

yeah

[real sonnet]

Boom world hunger is solved

[misty nova]

True
Every Bladed weapon should be like dclaw

[tame sluice]

remove bulwark shield bash

give the attack to maulers like a pommel strike

[real sonnet]

Stormvermin moment

[tame sluice]

exactly

[misty nova]

Dclaw heavy strikedown 600 damage to unarmored weakspot
200 damage to flak weakspot

[delicate shadow]

this is something tide has always done weird

blunt has almost always been kinda wet noodle crowd control oriented instead of any sort of DPS option with very few exceptions

[spare talon]

It doesn't even take me the entire weekend to read its description
Like actually what the fuck

[hexed igloo]

Yeah like why do chain weapons do so much to armor they should be skating off and be completely unable to bite in

[delicate shadow]

DT has a wide vairety of good blunt weapons at least, compared to the older titles

granted a lot of that is Arbi and Ogryn lmao

[hexed igloo]

I don't like blunts because swinging and taking 3 heads off in one go makes me feel some type of way

[visual blade]

tbh some bladed weapons feel blunt, if i'm to be honest

[delicate shadow]

that's true

[distant lagoon]

is ruthless backstab good to combine with shroud field?

[visual blade]

but that might be my building of them

anything chain, heavy sword, dclaw for whatever reason

[distant lagoon]

??? vt 2 had way more good blunt weeapons

[copper hawk]

Flail

Hgh

Uh

Dual hammers

Yah vt2 had a lot of blunt wpns

Shield n hammer

Coghammer ,,

My beloved ,,

[real sonnet]

I love sword and mace

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[delicate shadow]

in terms of DPS? no not really

[distant lagoon]

Bardin's 2h hammer

[real sonnet]

Why doesn't DT have sword and mace?

[distant lagoon]

Bardin's dual hammers

Bardin's single hammer

[copper hawk]

Why doesnt dt have a shield

Or a flail

Or or or or

[heady rapids]

dt has 3 shields

[copper hawk]

An a a a a admech

[heady rapids]

or 4

[copper hawk]

If not on zealot they dont count

[real sonnet]

Add wp flield to zealot

[copper hawk]

!

[real sonnet]

Ofc

[jagged cradle]

arby

[north sedge]

Vt2 is better they got admech and all the stuff dt didn't can't believe they pay more attention to it ugh

[heady rapids]

vt2 for sure gets a lot more map updates

tbh

[misty nova]

No lol

You already have rending with Shroudfield

[delicate shadow]

dual hammers, single hammer and even 2h hammer are all largely crowd control weapons

2h hammer is at least capable of mulching armour with light attacks but the horde clear is terrible and there are weapons that mulch armour just as fast without the downsides

[heady rapids]

are flails blunt weapons

they're at least half blunt

[delicate shadow]

coghammer even isn't a particularly high dps weapon on the light attacks, it's mostly a wet noodle except for the heavy attack which is straight up an executioner heavy and teachnically an axe blow based on the animation

[distant lagoon]

What are recommended perks and blessings for relic?

[delicate shadow]

yeah I'd call those blunt, and those aren't very high dps options either

though they get the benefit of ignoring shields which is real nice

[heady rapids]

they excel at cc that's true

[scarlet talon]

It doesn’t make sense for heavy/blunt weapons to be worse at dealing with armor than sharp pointy stuff that armor is literally designed to defend against

[delicate shadow]

yeah I mean

tide games do not have a realistic armour system or damage system at all

[median steeple]

true

considering Arbites and Ogryns would be much tankier

Aura

[delicate shadow]

I guess it's also that warhammer in general does not have realistic systems either lmao

[misty nova]

Defending knife being good against armor actually makes sense
But then you get to dueling sword and it just 💀

[delicate shadow]

what insane modifiers do to a mf

[frosty herald]

imagine an omnisian axe based on coghammer

[scarlet talon]

Picturing a guardsman pulling out his rapier to fight heretics in honorable combat just makes me laugh

[glossy nimbus]

Wdym? My armor restores when I attack people in combat

[real sonnet]

Give me flield for Zealot now

[misty nova]

Throwing a whole Ogryn to the ground so you can exploit the gaps on the armor with your knife

[delicate shadow]

I'd want something a lot more interesting than coghammer

[frosty herald]

that forsure

but maybe an omnisian axe mark

[delicate shadow]

I'm ofc biased but gimme halberd PLEASE

[heady rapids]

kitty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[delicate shadow]

yeah as a mark for the unga bunga enjoyers that's cool

[frosty herald]

or the power axe from the artstation leak can use coghammer as one of its templates

[median steeple]

@hard nexus you got this song stuck in my head

[distant lagoon]

What are recommended perks and blessings for relic?

[scarlet talon]

People have been asking for power axes and halberds since the game came out, we can only hope ig

[misty nova]

Flak elites or flak Unarmored
Cranial + Rampage/Leakage

[hard nexus]

which one

[distant lagoon]

Thanks

Heatsink bad?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/strangers-once-again---tanger-tanger-strangers-once-again-gif-10662446296599285491

[frosty herald]

Heatsink is niche

[median steeple]

Heatsink i sbad

[hard nexus]

its PEAAAAAKKKK

[median steeple]

Wrath is starting to feel placebo

[distant lagoon]

and Overload?

[heady rapids]

whuh

[median steeple]

the explosion? does almost nothing

[misty nova]

Wrath bad like I have been saying

[glossy nimbus]

Just take ibuprofen

[delicate shadow]

yea it's been on my wishlist since day 1

[frosty herald]

zealot now has a talent that gives him like 50% cleave in a horde

[delicate shadow]

DT severely lacks polearms and it shows

[median steeple]

Yeah I'm gonna switch to rampage instead and try that

[violet hornet]

This reminds me that I saw a showstopper flamer user in havoc 40 the other day

[distant lagoon]

Damn, auric feels so boring withouty Intense modifier

[median steeple]

holy shit

[distant lagoon]

i think only space marines use them?

[heady rapids]

wtf based

[violet hornet]

We did not survive lmao

[misty nova]

My brain so chronically online cooked that I thought they edited take's face

[median steeple]

no there are power pole arms that normal humans use

including oh idk the fucking mechanicus lmfao

[sullen forge]

Veteran better get a spear before the end of this games life cycle or I’m going to fucking die

[median steeple]

the only marines that really use them are Grey Knights tho some smaller chapters have special ones

[copper hawk]

Nah hive gamger

U get

[median steeple]

but those are spears

[copper hawk]

Zealot but drugs

[delicate shadow]

nah there's plenty of human grade ones

[median steeple]

the main force that uses halberds, poleaxes, etc outside the mechanicus are Custodes

[heady rapids]

STREET LEVEL?!!!

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/QT89ZqrFicg?si=00Bx_1R44BaAFlXo

[visual blade]

the level of the street

where the street is at

[copper hawk]

Golter

[frosty herald]

if we want a spear we can legit give vet a hunting glaive

[copper hawk]

Halbolter

[misty nova]

Deku.png

[sullen forge]

Moebian 6th: HOW ARE WE LOSING THEY’RE ONLY STREET LEVEL

Hive Scum: you’re on the street

[median steeple]

Constantin Valdor uses a glaive

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/NSVXopdpeY0?si=v8mIsMmL4v33hA7C

we also essentially have a glaive in vt2 as a template

[tranquil bone]

Two handers in general far as I'm concerned.

[median steeple]

We've had a two handed chaxe in the files since launch btw

just haven't gotten it

3 years later

[frosty herald]

i might know how hive scum got akimbo pistols

[sullen forge]

Mauler cosplays will be denied until morale improves

[frosty herald]

that payday animator joined the darktide team

[tranquil bone]

I know we are supposed to hate on ogryn here but I deeply need him to get a axe or hammer

[sullen forge]

Can we get a singular stub pistol for all human classes

[visual blade]

why would you want to cosplay the traitors?

[sullen forge]

Make it do mediocre damage but have really good ammo Econ

[frosty herald]

Genuinely fuck it give me dual stub pistols on vet

[median steeple]

Misspelled scum and my message got obliterated lmfao

[sullen forge]

Fuck you

[delicate shadow]

do you mean Jazzy?

[sullen forge]

BAN HIM

BAN HIM NOW

[frosty herald]

I believe so

[delicate shadow]

because she left the company ages ago

[misty nova]

There's a hammer incoming

Somewhere in the future

[median steeple]

but yeah all of the classes besides the two new ones need new guns and weapons in general

especially new guns

[frosty herald]

3 ogryn sledgehammer marks

[sullen forge]

I don’t even give a fuck if it’s ass

I want a stub pistol for all of them

It would be so funny

[gaunt roost]

😔

[twin wagon]

Grandfathers blessing upon you

[median steeple]

is that a hammer

I don't use hammer so I wouldn't know

ehhh I don't care for this image anymore

[misty nova]

It's a bell

I think

[oak ice]

Why is nurgle hunting monsters

[frosty herald]

Its a hunting horn

Belongs to rathian

[hexed igloo]

Horn

[median steeple]

oh I smhe

I dont use hunting horn

prefer hitting things with big stick

[hexed igloo]

It is hitting things with a big stick

Arguably a bigger stick than most

[heady rapids]

hunting horn being a top1 dps weapon on a lot of matchups was not on my list but im not against it

[oak ice]

We need more horn players

[hexed igloo]

Horn is fun but I'm a swag axe/gunlance type guy

For wilds at least

[deft badge]

Charge Blade>>>

[hexed igloo]

Charge blade mid use a real weapon like light bowgun

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-monster-hunter-hammer-gif-14699329600680114017

[deft badge]

Charge Blade felt really good to me

The animations and combos

[hexed igloo]

It's cool and all but ain't vibe with me

[twin wagon]

Rathian hunting horn

has big fat heals and poison

[hexed igloo]

Ion mind it in World but

[copper hawk]

Erm..

[hexed igloo]

You ain't a robot you're a twink beo

[deft badge]

@void bison see above

[frosty herald]

ill always be a hammer main

[void bison]

I got that frog in me

[oak ice]

Nothing wrong with a good bonk

[hexed igloo]

If all else fails I pull the greatsword

I deeply enjoy the offset and focus aiming

[glossy nimbus]

Kill

[hexed igloo]

Alright alright robot twink

[deft badge]

I keep putting off signalis

I should like actually play that game sometime

Its very in the niche of things I like

[distant lagoon]

martyr zealot so stupid now

how relic sword compares to evi?

[scenic drift]

Not really.

[sterile basalt]

Much better

[distant lagoon]

???

[scenic drift]

Only if team is mid or you damage whore on hordes

You have 300k dmg on lesser

Either team mid / all picked zero hordeclear weapons

[distant lagoon]

?????

[scenic drift]

Or you whored hordes for damage.

[distant lagoon]

what horde has to do with martyr

Martyr is good against anything

[carmine falcon]

evis is a machine

relic is better

[carmine falcon]

he killed more elites and specials than all of them

[distant lagoon]

You conveniently ignore me having 2x and 3x of elite and special kills as well

Also previous martyr game with evi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1439976433907662941/image.png?ex=691f1d0f&is=691dcb8f&hm=b8f53c6f18686fa3e14d68dba7d41cd44e9e421313a0021a90b693279861c053&

[scenic drift]

Yes, martyr is good, but that that scoreboard doesn't show either mid team of damage whoring.

[distant lagoon]

the fuck is damage whoring

[scenic drift]

Considering special kills, you just carried the team.

[carmine falcon]

playing the game is damage whoring

[heady rapids]

this community is a prison

[long oasis]

so marty lets you carry teams ig

[deft badge]

Inferno staff psyker

[scenic drift]

You slow down the run by taking extra fights / moving slow, so more stuff spawns.

[sterile basalt]

It’s nice, could be better tho

[scenic drift]

Or you play inferno yes.

[distant lagoon]

this

[violet hornet]

Some people will do anything to pad stats, like running far ahead of the team for exclusive access to enemies

[hexed igloo]

This planet is a prison

[carmine falcon]

game about killing things
kills things
becomes a whore

[long oasis]

you have the keys to the cell

[violet hornet]

At least I assume that's what this is referring to

[distant lagoon]

Acceptable

[heady rapids]

run shroudfield knife

[long oasis]

its called running the fuck away

[hexed igloo]

Bread tastes better than key

[scenic drift]

All classes have builds that let them carry.

[gaunt roost]

what are you people yapping about

[gaunt roost]

except for zealot

[modern lintel]

im carrying the team by playing gunlugger and eating all the fucking ammo to force the vets to engage in melee

[carmine falcon]

the only good thing about havoc is forcing speedheads to slow tf down and actually fight

[distant lagoon]

I think martyr was the best zealot build even before the tlaent rework, and even more so now

[heady rapids]

does anyone keep track of the goalpost getting moved

[scenic drift]

Eh you can carry auric just fine

[heady rapids]

it's happened at least 3 or 4 times now

[median steeple]

you know what

[scenic drift]

Yes absolutely.

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397273089133510852/1432854483313885316/intelligence_is_not_existed_here.gif

[long oasis]

hop on arc raider

[median steeple]

hive scum is the best class because it allows gunluggers to not fuck over the entire team

[distant lagoon]

I am carrying by pure mechanic no lifing
You carry by using your giga brain
i am in shambles

[sterile basalt]

Best before was piety
Best atm still kinda is piety

[distant lagoon]

So what you even arguing with lol

[carmine falcon]

i thought u said IJ is the best

[long oasis]

its more balanced now

[carmine falcon]

da hyllll

[heady rapids]

they won't fuck over the whole team either way they're getting kicked on game start

[sterile basalt]

IJ is good

But

Piety also did get buffed

And it was alrdy the best

[carmine falcon]

too bad piety is no where as fun as the other two

[distant lagoon]

what was buffed about it

[carmine falcon]

piety is stat whoring

[distant lagoon]

I dunno, i feel no reason to use it on naything but knife

[long oasis]

they should make piety also set people on fire

[heady rapids]

ewww dude you're fun whoring

[carmine falcon]

you're respond whoring rn

[scenic drift]

That the scoreboard you posted doesn't give enough information on whether you actually carried vs slowed run down and whored scoreboard numbers.

[long oasis]

or it should grant a blunt so you be blazing

[formal umbra]

can we stop argue whoring

[plush estuary]

I am risk of rain whoring rn

https://tenor.com/view/risk-of-rain-risk-of-rain-2-tater-brigade-rain-flying-gif-8263622248996575525

[carmine falcon]

if there's a risk

there's a rain

[sterile basalt]

Gain stack on crit hit (can stack multiple times per atk)
Easier path for max +25% crit chance
Stalwart now gives passive TGH gain on top of TDR

And piety gives best crit chance for best enduring faith uptime

[heady rapids]

and there's probably a whore

[median steeple]

Argument slop

[plush estuary]

Argument whoring?

[scenic drift]

Also if soneone has any mods that help with enemy spotting, it is super easy to get top specialists.

[sullen forge]

But it’s funny..

[formal umbra]

True.

[carmine falcon]

too bad scourge is bugged

[long oasis]

blinded by blood too

[carmine falcon]

fatshark is really good at bug whoring

[plush estuary]

I hate how it takes fury's rending and crit

[distant lagoon]

no, i don't slow down

[long oasis]

fatshark you goddamn whore

[sullen forge]

I’m playing more The Broken Script when I’m home

Aka perfectly normal Minecraft

[heady rapids]

no 2.0

death

[scenic drift]

In any case, posting big damage numbers as relic blade zealot, when no inferno psyker or good vet in team is kinda flexing without substance.

[lean cairn]

this game is just attackslop and enemyslop

[distant lagoon]

Funny whoring?

[long oasis]

is that the one that deletes your system 32

[sullen forge]

Yeah..

[distant lagoon]

bruh, i did not even know relic was good

[sullen forge]

(That’s an exaggeration)

[distant lagoon]

i thought it w as in fact bad

[formal umbra]

Relic is god tier

Both of them

[sullen forge]

But it does put notepads on your PC

[heady rapids]

it just shakes your game window

[sterile basalt]

Relic is a strong t1 melee

[long oasis]

thats not scary thats just annoying

[sterile basalt]

But pretty far from t0

[long oasis]

whats t0

[delicate shadow]

Zealot can carry with any of the keystones easily

[sterile basalt]

Power sword, FGS