zealot-class

[solar gorge]

makes me think i would've loved a czech dub for KCD

[frosty herald]

translate written text

stalker 2 doesnt

[modern lintel]

dont put that shit on the same tier as my goat bullet storm

[frosty herald]

and the text in the journalists appartement is just unreadable cause i dont read ukranian lol

[sterile stone]

Dead ass I wanna ask why every english dubbed game has british VAs

Like are the brits the cheapest option when it comes to english speaking VAs

[solar gorge]

u dissin bioshock u white sheitan ?

[plush estuary]

I love accepting random steam dm's

[heady rapids]

funny how space marine 2, another russian made game has imo worse voice acting than the english dub

[carmine falcon]

probably this

[peak violet]

metro dub is terrible too

[misty nova]

I may be biased

[frosty herald]

id also say unions too

[peak violet]

english with the "russian accent" is so overdone and cringe

just speak english ffs

[frosty herald]

easier to get british voice actors than go through a whole long winded loop with an union

[misty nova]

But Colossus BEA-D is the best song in the game

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-kiwi-bird-bird-running-away-funny-gif-3583877191952351361

[misty nova]

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

[sterile stone]

Aye look it's bam

[heady rapids]

if we're talking atomic heart

a lot of the tracks are amazing

great ost

[misty nova]

Truest true to ever truthed

[solar gorge]

god i love bioshock 1 and 2

[sterile stone]

Every Russian game being some end of the world or after some natural tragedy

[plush estuary]

omg

[frosty herald]

still waiting for dlc4 for atomic heart

[plush estuary]

its too good

[solar gorge]

lmao

[ivory marlin]

That gif is funny yes but you could also use

[frosty herald]

seeing if its either gonna continue the dlc2 story or dlc3

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-jam-gif-4702952687438747345

[sterile stone]

You flirted with the fridge didn't you

[solar gorge]

i don't offer any scam

[heady rapids]

i dont think i can name a game that isnt what you described lmao

[sterile stone]

[frosty herald]

its weird

[deft badge]

My favorite is hitting these people with "i do not have money for whatever you're selling" preemptively and then they still try to sell me something

[plush estuary]

I no offer scam

it played itself

[solar gorge]

followed by the most obvious scame to date

[plush estuary]

I love asking that question

it always shows me their intentions

[sterile stone]

I swear I've never seena game out of the Balkans that isn't some end of the world scenario

[plush estuary]

"if this is not a scam, I'm not interested"

[frosty herald]

real asf ngl

[solar gorge]

u have a tf2 inventory ainz ?

[heady rapids]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/648923463649853441/1436048204486541313/meme-about-finnish-games-v0-q7d5aqq6ww3d1.webp?ex=690e2f9c&is=690cde1c&hm=367804eea2968470eac9b428498b48e8d51850e07581fed559218f517b6ef9ea&=&format=webp

[carmine falcon]

people say atomic heart is like bioshock but i disagree
the story is wacky fun nonsense

[peak violet]

Smuta

[sterile stone]

Eastern EU just on that doomer core mindset

[frosty herald]

atomic heart also knows what theyre doing with the twins

[plush estuary]

little one

[carmine falcon]

of ocurse they did

[sterile stone]

I mean it's fan service for sure

[plush estuary]

like worth $1

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1435285520099049542/ezgif-73912aaf5e9ca4.gif

i'll buy it

[deft badge]

You can tell when art is coming out of a former Soviet bloc country cause it's just the most miserable shit you've ever seen

[plush estuary]

I have CS and TF2, so I attract so many scams

its funny

[carmine lance]

REAL

[frosty herald]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1kOzI4rGC49ALH1YMa7NL2?si=e5ffd683832e4561

[sterile stone]

The moment I spot the white shirt with blue lines

I already know what I'm getting into

[carmine lance]

dude pathologic is absolutely one of those games lmao

[solar gorge]

i had to turn my inv private cuz it's kinda big

[carmine lance]

not that it's a surprise but I just wanted to say

[solar gorge]

and i would get scammers 24/7

[frosty herald]

they even got alex terrible as a vocalist in the game

[plush estuary]

I love trolling them

[solar gorge]

it's funny ya

[plush estuary]

this aint worth nothing

[solar gorge]

strange carbonado bot killer

[frosty herald]

tho i will say atomic heart has some high quality dlc

[solar gorge]

worth at least 32 cents

[peak violet]

King's Bounty and Space Rangers are bright and colorful

[frosty herald]

no we do not talk about the dreamland dlc it sucks ass

[heady rapids]

ik there's a cs surf map

[frosty herald]

thats the dreamland dlc

[solar gorge]

there's many

[ivory marlin]

I have a few things

[frosty herald]

its so absurdly frustrating

imagine someone in their first hour getting a golden pan

i know theres an alcoholic that has now deleted his golden pan twice in a drunken rage

[sterile stone]

No golden pan

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/busterjam-tallglass-stab-buster-wizard-gif-3781376372627384752

[solar gorge]

i may have a few items

perhaps

[ivory marlin]

Ill be honest

If i had a golden pan

Id sell it and pretend i didnt know yall

[deft badge]

Tbh I immediately sell anything worth any money

[ivory marlin]

Idk how to sell smth for actual money

[solar gorge]

most of my expensive items are gifts

[ivory marlin]

And not just steam bucks

[solar gorge]

don't ask

[heady rapids]

i can help you man

just send me the items

[deft badge]

Lots of sites for it tbh

[heady rapids]

i will send you the money later

[frosty herald]

LOL

[ivory marlin]

Yeah absolutely

[sullen forge]

Reminding me I get scammers asking for my Nuts and Bolts Pyromancers once a month

[frosty herald]

there is also pretty big drama in csgo right now over a rat

[ivory marlin]

Whats your steam ill send you my 40$ unusual

[frosty herald]

some dude was lent some high value skins to show off from xqc and such

and he sold them for money

[deft badge]

I would too lmfao

[solar gorge]

nuts and bolts

https://tenor.com/view/sad-steam-steam-sad-gif-9524752141311518885

[heady rapids]

if xqc trusted you enough to lend you his skins

atp just ask him to give you money

[misty nova]

[frosty herald]

he asked to borrow them for a big CS tournament

[misty nova]

Mad funny that you can get stepped on to death

[ivory marlin]

I have a nuts and bots

[solar gorge]

my condolences

freind

[frosty herald]

also stewie2k is just a big scammer

[sullen forge]

You’d be surprised how well it pairs with another Nuts and Bolts or other effects

Double Nuts and Bolts is underrated as fuck

[solar gorge]

my favourite that i own is miami night and aces high

i love me aces high

[deft badge]

Iirc a metric fuckton of CS youtubers had money in gambling sites they'd advertise to their underaged audiences

[solar gorge]

og

[heady rapids]

i got halo

[ivory marlin]

Wait why is it bad

[solar gorge]

bad rep

nothing wrong with it if u like it

[solar gorge]

it's up to personal taste

[heady rapids]

what do i do

[ivory marlin]

No i actually couldn’t care less about it

[solar gorge]

but it's regarded as the broke ass unusual

[sullen forge]

You can me weird or call it cope but I genuinely enjoy pairing Nuts with Kill a Watt

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-with-it-master-chief-gif-18544017

[sullen forge]

Or just Nuts by itself

It’s nothing too flashy

[solar gorge]

it's not weird, it's a consistant theme

[deft badge]

I always liked sunbeams tbh

[sullen forge]

That’s literally what my combo is

[solar gorge]

sunbeams goated yeah

[sullen forge]

Like my main combo

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/wort-wort-gif-21974717

[sullen forge]

Nuts + Kill a Watt

[solar gorge]

but i like miami nights better

[frosty herald]

well see if 343's next halo game will be any good (they havent created a single good halo game)

[sullen forge]

Occasionally it’s Double Nuts

[heady rapids]

help

[formal umbra]

Infinites multiplayer was p fun at least

[sullen forge]

Anyways I’m more for fashion

[nimble fiber]

got no expectations but will be very happy if it turns out good

[sullen forge]

Than I am for value

[deft badge]

I used to have a scorching(is it blazing?) merryweather to match my green flames phlog tbh

[craggy laurel]

Yeah for sure ill be hopping in the psykanium as soon as i get home to test out all these new talents haha. Have a good day mate

[frosty herald]

cant forgive them for charging like 12 dollars over colors

[sullen forge]

It just happens the used to be 70 USD pyromancers became

Over 400+

[formal umbra]

Oh yeah that shit was awful I just mean the actual gameplay

[sullen forge]

And now people are trying to consistently scam me out of it

Lmao

[glad ermine]

i have found zealot music

[frosty herald]

a lil backup plan

[glad ermine]

https://youtu.be/Fr0C9dbPWSo?si=Afhlt8DT-s7iXKS3

[solar gorge]

the only unusual i bought myself was when the great glitch happened

[sullen forge]

Oh yam

[solar gorge]

and ppl unboxed like 500000 of them

[sullen forge]

I had this discussion

I’m going to be petty

[formal umbra]

I traded for my current two unusuals

[sullen forge]

This shit is going to rot in my inventory

No one is getting it

[sullen forge]

Okay that’s kinda peak

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/766998073300746281/1368322181750067260/squirrel.gif

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/greed-gif-112274260317000307

[sullen forge]

Actual consistent theme

[ivory marlin]

I never use it

[gaunt meadow]

how do i stop the heretics from pulling off this shit

[solar gorge]

i'm taking my pro killstreak australium medigun to the grave

[ivory marlin]

Market price is 20 ill sell it 15 unironically

[glossy nimbus]

dumb statement

[sullen forge]

See you don’t understand this falls under wrath

[frosty herald]

imminent 2014 is always the case when hitreg stops

[solar gorge]

with deadly daffodil shine, awsme

[sullen forge]

I simply care not for its value

[formal umbra]

I opened a crate during the start of the depression and made $100 on it before the patch happened

[sullen forge]

I’m doing it to be petty to make traders mad

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/Idz90Y66kE4?si=_sHmkSsZ5-WR03fz

[sullen forge]

I’m simply being petty

Lmao

I rarely touch TF2 anymore

[frosty herald]

its also funny that people get scammed because of ego

anomaly gives a standard rate of like 90% i think

[deft badge]

I dont understand why you'd ever at any point send someone your stuff

[frosty herald]

then people go to sketchy unverified traders for a higher % and then get exit scammed

[solar gorge]

buy my crypto

[ivory marlin]

These are all my unusuals

[solar gorge]

lambdacoin

[misty nova]

Stop taking drugs before going down to Atoma

[light badge]

I don't understand how people get scammed. Like, they all use the same template ass profile with automated messages

[frosty herald]

doesnt even have to be bots

just someone smart enough on how to scam people out of skins

[ivory marlin]

I use my timeless topper and crimbo

[solar gorge]

most scammers aren't bots funnily enough

[solar gorge]

cloud 9, that's so og...

[ivory marlin]

Its like 70$

[solar gorge]

og af

[ivory marlin]

I might sell it

[frosty herald]

if your smart youll start rolling for reds on crates

theyre going up in price hard cause of the trade up update

[normal wren]

My reds have not moved

[ivory marlin]

I cant play tf2 without opening a few crates any more

[normal wren]

[ivory marlin]

I have 1 red

[tranquil bone]

The one they try on me all the time is offering half a dozen ultra cheap garbage hats in trade for what looks like junk but they slip a few 10$ crates and such in with the trading cards and .02¢ ones.
If you didn't look at it close and price everything it'd be easy to fall for.

[normal wren]

I did make like 1k on my deagle though

That was cool

[deft badge]

I kinda wish I did not sell my CS skins years ago but like, who knew the market was gonna spike then

[ivory marlin]

This is probably my most expensive item ive been offered 100$ for it

[normal wren]

I currently have 4 reds, none of theirnprices have changed

[solar gorge]

if u wanna invest in cs stuff, firstly lmao, secondly all in on cases

cases can only go up, very stable, always in demand

[normal wren]

If you wanna invest in cs stuff, first step: dont

[deft badge]

I don't, I made like 2k a couple years ago selling my amassed inventory

I think it wouldve been more like at least 3k or possibly 4 if I held it but like

Who expected all CS skins to balloon in price, yk?

[normal wren]

I remember when cases were 3 bucks

And the shitty ones were 1.50

[formal umbra]

my current ones, prob gonna keep them since I traded for them

[deft badge]

I remember when an Battle scarred basilisk was like $7, now they're fuckin $40

[frosty herald]

use half your cases sell the rest

[solar gorge]

no

all in on cases

[normal wren]

Currently got a vaporwave that I got for 70 bucks fac new

[solar gorge]

unironically

[normal wren]

[deft badge]

I sold my vaporwave for i think $700

[normal wren]

Sounds about right

Im just gonna hold on mine

I like it

[deft badge]

I can go find the price if you really want it

It was like

[normal wren]

Its dropped

[deft badge]

42 lowest float or something?

[ivory marlin]

Chat i think i should get all of your cases

[oak ice]

I know nothing about TF2 except killbinding is the funniest thing to tf2 players

[ivory marlin]

And then i stream as i lose hundreds

[normal wren]

Nah those get sold

Except for my clutch cases

[ivory marlin]

Not cs

[normal wren]

They stay in my inventory

Ah tf2

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

[normal wren]

If I have any Ill trade em to you

[hushed knoll]

Hi lambda ily

[solar gorge]

i keep 1 crate/case of each

collectible

i delete duplicate

[ivory marlin]

Hi stan

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1421373625369497661/pvz.gif

[normal wren]

Ive just been slowly liquidating my cs inventory

Cant do any more this year cuz taxes

[ivory marlin]

I e opened a few cs cases before

[normal wren]

My emerald buttplugs dropped a lot I think

[sterile stone]

why

[plush estuary]

please pick them up

[normal wren]

All cs knives dropped

[sterile stone]

Why does this have to be what I see when I open up discord

[normal wren]

[violet hornet]

Loose probably

[solar gorge]

they're literally buttplugs

every1 calls them that

u cs newbs wouldn't get it...

[ivory marlin]

This is my best pull at 10$

[violet hornet]

Too loose and they just pop right back out again

[normal wren]

I have unironically forgotten that vernacular had a different meaning

[solar gorge]

it's used so casually

[craggy laurel]

Does the eviserator do a lot of finesse damage?

[solar gorge]

nobody calls them by their real name

shadow daggers lmao

corny af

they're buttplugs

forever and ever

[ivory marlin]

I wish it was worth the price of a real black lotus

😔

[sullen forge]

Valves peoples republic hit you that hard?

[nimble fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/men-in-black-mib-will-smith-u-saw-nothing-kharter-gif-12731469441707899432

[hushed knoll]

[misty nova]

Yes and no

[frosty herald]

cards being so higly priced is hilarious

[normal wren]

Nah I still made money I think

[frosty herald]

because its artificial scarcity

[normal wren]

Still dropped a lot from where it was

[sullen forge]

When I saw that happen I got vague flashbacks of the TF2 economy tanking from the crate bug

[misty nova]

But eviscerators are CRIT adjacent weapons

[normal wren]

I got them for the price of non-emerald shadow daggers

[misty nova]

It's complicated but not really

[solar gorge]

crate bug wasn't intended and actually epic

[sullen forge]

Lmao

[frosty herald]

waiter waiter more tf emporium slop!

[normal wren]

Steam market amiright

[sullen forge]

I’m so fucking mad

I had no money during that

So I missed out on some free drip basically

[solar gorge]

i think i got my miami nights scout hat for 15 euros

[sullen forge]

The 1/1000000 items that look nice whilst everything else is abysmal dogshit

[normal wren]

Imagine if someone got a blazing team captain

From the crate bug

[solar gorge]

it would've been very expensive still

[frosty herald]

cosmetics arent coherent with tf2's artstyle

[sullen forge]

They did

A lot of people did

[normal wren]

The unusual from the bug was untradeabld

[solar gorge]

not at first right

it's been a while

[long oasis]

I would buy stuff if it was small and maybe perhaps pink

[frosty herald]

the funniest recent drama is slurs.tf

[sullen forge]

Not defending just saying extremely fucking rarely they have 1 acceptable item

Everything else is

[long oasis]

was that real I thought it was a joke

[sullen forge]

Pumpkin on head

[solar gorge]

they were on the market so they def were tradable at some point

[sullen forge]

Elf hat

[frosty herald]

its real

[sullen forge]

Suicidal tendencies

[craggy laurel]

I see haha, im mainly asking to see if the duelist talent (50% increased finesse damage) is worth taking on evis over something like +damage% on dodge

[long oasis]

im searching u up

[frosty herald]

some poppular tf2 youtubers had some colorful language

[solar gorge]

imma be honest, the whole death of the artsyle thing is overblown to shit

and pure content farm atp

[normal wren]

Trying to get on the leaderboard

[frosty herald]

nah i agree with the sentiment

[solar gorge]

u don even play the game

[frosty herald]

don care

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

stinky tourist

[frosty herald]

im making astute observations

[peak violet]

the majority who play pvp games don't care about artstyle consistency or quality, so devs cater to them

just look at almost every popular pvp game in existence

especially post like idk 2015

[frosty herald]

the bird head cosmetics are neat tho

[solar gorge]

like more than half the miscs they add are literally normal

literally nothing special or breaking

[carmine falcon]

the art style in arc raiders is something alright

[long oasis]

that looks like felvidek

[peak violet]

it's all clown show for kids who get dopamine from dangling keys

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/faith-faith-game-father-garcia-john-ward-handshake-gif-12170138950835710072

it is

[frosty herald]

this might blow your mind

[long oasis]

ur telling me its halo infinite?!?!!

[tranquil bone]

The time to complain about TF2's art style was like a decade ago lol. That ship sailed so long ago

[heady rapids]

the emperor........

[solar gorge]

and even back then it's like urgh

[ivory marlin]

I think tf2 art style is silly

[long oasis]

tf3 is coming out soon

[ivory marlin]

Why yall hating

[ivory marlin]

No

[solar gorge]

like it gets subjective af

[ivory marlin]

For either

[misty nova]

Duelist is always worth it

[long oasis]

im gonna play feah and hungah and then I will play felvidek

[sullen forge]

I’ll be honest my take is both sides are fucking annoying

[misty nova]

Since it's critical, weakspot and critical Weakspot damage

[craggy laurel]

Thanks

[sullen forge]

But I do agree the art style is dead

And we should’ve tried to attempt sticking to it

[solar gorge]

death of the artstyle is a fraud thing, ppl should complain about how we never got soldier naked and covered in honey like in the comics

[frosty herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

[solar gorge]

my artslye so dead guys,,c,

[ivory marlin]

Just go on google or twitter

[solar gorge]

in the game where the guy does a finger gun and kills u

[ivory marlin]

Probably loads of art of that

[solar gorge]

so dead they killed the serious dark vibe vros..

world that's literally on cartoon logic

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/ixF83lrKAKw?si=D2zFY2AyhK6ErTIX

[ivory marlin]

Guys i think respawn should die and then a better company gets the titan fall ip

[long oasis]

im gonna pet that dog

[ivory marlin]

Like bungie

Or Bethesda

[long oasis]

no more apex slop for you

[oak ice]

I find it really funny that without glitches Enki's ending is debatable harder than Rag's

[frosty herald]

dont let respawn die

atleast not before jedi 3

[heady rapids]

looking how jedi 2 ran

[ivory marlin]

I started playing apex when crypto got added and quit apex after seer got added

[heady rapids]

no one will be able to play 3

let respawn die

[long oasis]

I never touched it thankfully

[oak ice]

Titainfall 3....I wish it would be realy

[long oasis]

siege tho I played a lil bit

[frosty herald]

the gaems are fun

[ivory marlin]

I need more tone content

[long oasis]

nowhere near as much as my friends but like a decent amount of time

[heady rapids]

seer on release was so bad

[ivory marlin]

Ive regressed so much skill in siege

[ivory marlin]

He can spam his ability now

[long oasis]

being good in siege is meaningless

[heady rapids]

he used to blind you

[frosty herald]

kal kestis

[long oasis]

because half of your lobby is hackers and the other half are xim users

[ivory marlin]

I use to be cracked

[sterile stone]

Bro looks like he owns a beat down pick up truck with an American flag on it

[ivory marlin]

Nvm im still crack this clip was recent

[heady rapids]

i was so cracked with wingman in apex

but that game is bad doodoo

[long oasis]

poor amuru

[sterile stone]

Camping

Smh

That's that mullet nonsense

[ivory marlin]

Im literally playing the character that sits in 2 corners at the same time

[sterile stone]

Mullet gaming

[frosty herald]

theres few games that can make irl actors work in protagonist roles and i think jedi is one of them

[ivory marlin]

This is also recent

[long oasis]

is that guy deaf

[ivory marlin]

I think so

[sterile stone]

I swear

Bro's opponents is just clones of Helen Keller

[deft badge]

Absolutely disagree tbh, everytime I play that game i wish the MC looked like anything else

[ivory marlin]

Crazy

[frosty herald]

tom clancy rolling in his grave

[sterile stone]

Tom Clancy rolled in his grave ages ago.

[ivory marlin]

Idk what this clip is could be peak

[sterile stone]

With how they bastardized bro's name with failed game after failed game

[heady rapids]

the thing you're listening to here is ltierally haunting me

[solar gorge]

tom clancy is generating a perpetual source of energy atp

by how much he spinning

[ivory marlin]

Rare America?

[heady rapids]

yes

[ivory marlin]

Why did i clip this

[sterile stone]

Think of an alligator death roll

But it's just depression

[heady rapids]

it kept popping up on my feed

[ivory marlin]

Ive had the same playlist from middleschool

[heady rapids]

brittle bones nicky 2

brittle bones nicky 3

i click not interested every time

it keeps getting recommended to me

IT'S THE SAME SONG

STOP

[long oasis]

jorking it

[ivory marlin]

Oh here is possibly my best gameplay ever

Idk why its so loud

Might kms

[heady rapids]

lmao

[ivory marlin]

Oh these are also really peak clips actually

Big fan of the iq clip

I use to listen to music really loudly

Crazy

Might be why im slightly def now

[visual stream]

He made a third one?

[ivory marlin]

Oh here we go @sterile stone watch how peak this gameplay is

JellyPost345 mlg best gameplay ever

[heady rapids]

4 is on the way probably

[ivory marlin]

Disgusting

[misty nova]

https://x.com/RoosterScrappy/status/1986382347151798721?s=19

Scrappy (@RoosterScrappy)

X · Nov 6, 2025, 10:37 AM

[quiet surge]

I am a long time Ogryn player looking for a small change of pace. I have a 19 Zealot from release. Do you have a recommended build I can start with for this class?

[ivory marlin]

Thammer

[hexed igloo]

My tactic in The Cycle to get player kills was to be friendly and help out a little for solos roaming around and then magdump my autoshotgun into their back when they least expect it

[quiet surge]

Thammer, you have a link? Or the Mister E build the one?

[hexed igloo]

I suck at pvp

[sterile stone]

This gotta be copper lobbies

[ivory marlin]

I actually dont know anything about zealot i just know people like thammer im sorry

[quiet surge]

No problem 😄

[ivory marlin]

I dont play ranked

[hexed igloo]

Thammer is pretty specialized if u wanna just sweep and kill shit get u an evis

[sterile stone]

Even worse

[plush estuary]

@sullen forge

would you still play with me if I were a worm?

[quiet surge]

For starting out that would be better. Is there I guide I can reference?

[hexed igloo]

Idk tbh Google it probably, I don't use build guides

[ivory marlin]

Check pins

[hexed igloo]

I load up what looks good and ball

[ivory marlin]

I know pins has a few builds and tips

[ivory marlin]

What

[plush estuary]

in my zealot guide I help guide through the steps of build making but currently do not have any example builds. If you wanted me to add some, just ask and I can make some

[ivory marlin]

Also ainz acrid is based so i actually do love you now

[plush estuary]

and I will credit you

[plush estuary]

I became worm

[ivory marlin]

Oh ok

[quiet surge]

I am terrible at making my own when I start, I tend to use some sort of cookie cutter build and after I learn teh class I branch out. Since I am completely new to zealot I am just looking for something that is not too hard 😄

[frosty herald]

sure

ill share my shroudfield IJ build with you

hasent been havoc tested but has been maelstrom tesjted

[plush estuary]

this is a good starter

that is only 18 points

but if you need help finishing it just ask, I will need to know weapons and playstyle though

[sullen forge]

No

[frosty herald]

dont be afraid to tweak my build if you see something out of place

[plush estuary]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946661851322789908/1009316500856918066/image0.gif

[plush estuary]

idk what happned in that clip though

[frosty herald]

theres a video out about the drifter btw

https://youtu.be/p-myZmdvaoA?si=3ENqHH9ioqu00QDe

[plush estuary]

driller from drg

aint no way

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/drg-deep-rock-deep-rock-galactic-drg-driller-gif-6637776221717369869

[sullen forge]

Interesting seeing Drifter return though

From Risk of Rain: Returns

[steep garden]

Guys I just this week picked up zealot and I am leveling the unique weapons (something I do for all classes) - I want to experiment with thammer now, but I need help with something else - How to utilize Martydom? I mean - how do you safely get yourself to 5 stacks (aka get 5 wounds of damage)? Do you do it on purpose somehow by letting things hit you?

[sullen forge]

I have a feeling Operator is Pilot

[plush estuary]

I use fire barrel

so be more precise in my damage taken without my toughness being removed

[steep garden]

ok that is smart

[plush estuary]

flamers that explode have the same effect

[tranquil finch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a04b8c91-2f10-4887-8a43-f24e0c8fd56e/novellos-thunderstruck?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Thoughts on this build? (Relatively inexperienced with Zeal)

[frosty herald]

shroud CDR isnt taken because of pious cuthroat being so good @plush estuary

[quiet surge]

Thank you, this is a good start! I am more of a horde clearing person, I am pretty clueless on the zealot weapons. Ill play around and see what I like but on Ogryn I really like the light pickaxe (Karsolas) Much appreciate the starting talents

[frosty herald]

this builds main playstyle is frontliner hordeclear and then using shroud to get a quick boss backstab or elite backstab

[tranquil finch]

on this, i'm looking at bleed for the emperor and thinking it's a crazy powerful skill. But im not seeing a lot of people taking it.

[steep garden]

also on this talent starter - wouldn't it be a good idea to take shield of contempt instead of against the odds? It sounds very strong to me

[misty nova]

You either let chip damage accumulate over time
Or
Fuck it we Barrel

[plush estuary]

everlasting flame is a choice, flamers damage comes from the Dot which only takes around 20 ammo to fully apply max stacks, no it doesnt help using more then that. No need for 3 wounds anymore, since marty max stacks is not 5 (so have 6 wounds total, 2 base, 2 talent, 2 curio). looks good otherwise, no 2nd winds hurts me since I love the explosive amount of toughness regen, but it isnt need.

[frosty herald]

shield of contempt is very situational

[plush estuary]

Soc has 2 hidden downsides

[frosty herald]

barrel fire can trigger it

[plush estuary]

Against the odds (the other talent in the branch) is way more useful imo

damage and cleave in situations you need it

no trigger

always active

[misty nova]

Bleed Emps is fine
Iirc it's mathematically times 1.25 HP when it procs
It's just so that you might never proc it, either never get hit or sit a low wounds for 90% of the match

[frosty herald]

you can also get reds with drifter junk crafting btw

[steep garden]

this is very informative - thanks

[plush estuary]

its good dr, but to marty max you want to be at 1 wounds always, so its uptime is low if you are good at maintaining marty

oh wait

is that the health back or wound segment dr

dr

[ivory marlin]

I like zealot chat

[plush estuary]

okay I was right

[misty nova]

Not 1.25
1.6

[tranquil finch]

i was deciding between 2d wind and bleed for emperor

[misty nova]

Dang it I can't fully remember

[ivory marlin]

This is the first tiktok ive ever gotten about darktide

[median steeple]

isn't 2nd wind the better of the two? I know BFTE can be decent on martyr but 2nd wind is just the play all the time

[frosty herald]

always take second wind

[misty nova]

Yeah

[plush estuary]

2nd wind the best

EwEw 2nd best imo

uptime is amazing

[misty nova]

Bleed Emps is Schrodinger's fine

[plush estuary]

2nd wind is most % regen, while ewew is always active

[normal wren]

Im a bad martyrdom player

[median steeple]

just dont get hit bro

[misty nova]

I'm a good martyr

[plush estuary]

I'd try this out

[misty nova]

1 hp and a dream babeeeee

Feel the rush

🗣️

[plush estuary]

3 points to get unfaltering seems odd

[frosty herald]

unfaltering is a gamechanger on hammer

[plush estuary]

backstab could go to elite damage

[frosty herald]

seriously

[misty nova]

What the hell is Unfaltering again

Oh

[plush estuary]

I felt no change but thats me

[misty nova]

I remembered

[frosty herald]

no more wiffing chaos spawns

[tranquil bone]

Unfaltering makes so many weapons feel so much better

[misty nova]

It's the every weapon has move tech talent

[tranquil bone]

I can't not take it

[plush estuary]

you can slide while charging a heavy with no movement debuff

thats probably why I dont feel a difference

[normal wren]

Because I have 2 wounds

Instead of one

[visual stream]

Unfaltering never feels worth the point investment to me

[normal wren]

Thanks for the mpreg

[visual stream]

That's the only reason I haven't tried it

[plush estuary]

@frosty herald what should I label this build on the guide

[frosty herald]

pfffff

as in name or role?

[plush estuary]

name

its your build

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-think-thinking-gif-5059284

[normal wren]

Fast as fuck boiiiii

[misty nova]

Forehead

[frosty herald]

the prison toothbrush

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-roberto-stabbing-billy-west-philip-j-fry-gif-4051060

[normal wren]

Gif required in the guide?

[misty nova]

A Shank?!?!

[frosty herald]

considering your main gameplay is backstabbing and flanking

hmmm

[normal wren]

Backshots on the enemies

[frosty herald]

actualy

rename the build to The raven

that works much better

[plush estuary]

on pg.26

[frosty herald]

relic blade can be interchangable with thammer

i think you should add that

[frosty herald]

perfect

im not gonna go into specifics over mark

its all prefference

[normal wren]

Would it work with the shank/toothpick

[frosty herald]

it works with every weapon zealot has access to

[heady rapids]

perfect time to try out the smaul

[frosty herald]

fuck of lmfao

[normal wren]

Im thinking dclaw

[frosty herald]

i just know people will rag on the build cause i go into pious cuthroat

[normal wren]

I'm too stupid for stealth

[plush estuary]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16W_MhzUGXv9WRVjXjowIyqlktqrJ8U5wxVlgX3X5TU8/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0

testing something

okay

title didnt change in the pins

now it did

weird

while I am working on this, I'll add my builds

[misty nova]

Using the boss deleting build on the shock maul

Known for its poor unyielding damage

[long oasis]

tbf what is smaul good at

[heady rapids]

it has skullcrusher

[long oasis]

crusher has skullcrusher

[signal spoke]

https://x.com/RockstarGames/status/1986540361011880167?t=GzgX9OjZvkSK_X13Fpcbsg&s=19

Rockstar Games (@RockstarGames)

Hi everyone,

Grand Theft Auto VI will now release on Thursday, November 19, 2026.

We are sorry for adding additional time to what we realize has been a long wait, but these extra months will allow us to finish the game with the level of polish you have come to expect and

X · Nov 6, 2025, 9:05 PM

[frosty herald]

every game company scrambling to avoid this

[signal spoke]

We about to have every game dropping before GTA6 does

[peak violet]

🛌

[misty nova]

Uh
Stagger

[long oasis]

but im playing smyker

[misty nova]

It's pretty much a generalist

Able to 1 shot most specialists

2 shot elites

Deal with bulwarks

And it's unironically mid

Kinda crazy

[long oasis]

it may be the most middle of the road weapon

consequence of force greatsword existing

[misty nova]

The attacks overall have decent cleave so it won't be struggling with hordes

[long oasis]

and dueling sword

[misty nova]

Also able to beat on carapace

Textbook definition of mid

[long oasis]

whats the setup again

skullcrusher and then what

havent touched this weapon in ages

perhaps its time to use the zealot compendia

[ivory marlin]

What the hell wotc

[long oasis]

skaven?

[ivory marlin]

No its avatar the last Airbender

But the card itself

[visual stream]

Holy shit

I don't play MtG but this in like any card game is crazy

[ivory marlin]

Also we are getting a fucking 8 mana 0/30 that gives every other permanent you control indestructible

[long oasis]

@plush estuary is hammerblow really better than high voltage? Im not sure how the electrocute mechanic works

[ivory marlin]

4 mana is also cheap as hell

[plush estuary]

its for gurenteed trigger of SC

[visual stream]

Isn't it 14 total for the additional cost

[plush estuary]

yes I'd like uptime on my 80% damage increase blessing

[visual stream]

Idk how the game works

[long oasis]

what cant you stagger without hammerblow

[ivory marlin]

Idk what waterbending does lemmie check

[plush estuary]

it can

but less reliable

and on less enemies

[ivory marlin]

Ok

So

Waterbending

You can pay that number

Or tap that many permanents

"Waterbend(ing) X:" denotes an activated ability that costs X generic mana that can be paid normally and/or by tapping creatures and artifacts.

[median steeple]

OH MY GOD BRUHHHH

having someone dodge a game 5 times in a row

[frosty herald]

guh

[median steeple]

SITTING IN QUEUE FOR 5 MINS

eugh

dodge

dodge

dodge

whyyyyy

[misty nova]

If you use special you'll stagger everything human sized, except mutants I think
But Hammerblow helps your heavies with mid combo ragers iirc

[frosty herald]

what game are ya playing

[median steeple]

im just trying to play fucking NORMALS on league not even ranked

[long oasis]

the special seems kinda mid

[glossy nimbus]

could some of you ping me

[long oasis]

@glossy nimbus

[ivory marlin]

@glossy nimbus

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-meme-leagueoflegends-shower-scary-gif-10152079207439264460

[glossy nimbus]

thnx

[frosty herald]

@glossy nimbus

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-middle-finger-jinx-s2-jinx-uck-you-uck-you-gif-14102286058703083939

[signal spoke]

https://x.com/Halo/status/1986509678063325222?t=K3nk-imToVL1sj1qOafcZw&s=19 brother what? Giving elite armors but not playable sanghelis

Halo (@Halo)

Halo Infinite’s next update arrives on November 18.

Join us tomorrow at 11am PT to learn more about what’s coming on our November Community Livestream!

🟣 https://t.co/qEDRaBH4Rm
🔴 https://t.co/USvn5HjgfX

X · Nov 6, 2025, 7:03 PM

[median steeple]

Holy shit

Fuckkk I don't wanna go back but the honour guard armour is peak

[tranquil finch]

what would you take instead of everlasting flame then? Penetrating flame?

[plush estuary]

blaze away/over pressure

max damage

[misty nova]

It is also very good against void shield

[tranquil finch]

okie, and since we're not bothered about crits, something like flak + carapace?

[spare talon]

Not carapace

[plush estuary]

flak + maniac/unyield

[gleaming furnace]

flak unyielding

[tranquil finch]

the flamer against unyielding????

[plush estuary]

Burn does amazing unyield damage

[tranquil finch]

oh right dots

[plush estuary]

and it can hit bulwarks through shield

[spare talon]

FUCK bulwarks

[jagged cradle]

i heard you’re giving bulwarks paper plates as shields next update can you comment on this

[spare talon]

I wish

[misty nova]

Uh

None of the weapons have good adm against paper

[glad ermine]

I smell tacticus

Played this shit everywhere for a while

[copper hawk]

I still do

They added a krieg guy on a horse

And a new

The gold guys

[glad ermine]

Nice, i legit had no more time to keep up with the maintainance i set up for myself

[copper hawk]

God what are they called

I so eeeepy

[glad ermine]

FUUUCK

Custodes

[copper hawk]

Yah

[glad ermine]

Maan

[copper hawk]

She's preeetty

[glad ermine]

Making me come back

[copper hawk]

It's genuinely p fun

I like the art for it to

They look like toys but in a cool way

Very stylized

[glad ermine]

Yeh

[copper hawk]

Esp for a mobile game

[median steeple]

sisters.... awesome

cica will you get boltgun 2 for the sister

[copper hawk]

There's a sister in boltgun 2 ????

[glad ermine]

I do like older warhammer 40k but the only thing close to that is the horus heresy card game and i am not a card game guy

[copper hawk]

Is she playable ???

[glad ermine]

There will be

Yes

[violet hornet]

Cica shilling mobile games?

[copper hawk]

WHAT

Ur not

Yankin my chain rn

[glad ermine]

Power sword, holy crossbow, bolt pistol, flamer so far

[copper hawk]

Not wonkin my willy

[glad ermine]

Nope

[median steeple]

she's one of the two protags

[copper hawk]

This is real true dark impercialcel fact ???

[glad ermine]

Yes

[copper hawk]

WAAAAAAT

[median steeple]

the other being caedo

[copper hawk]

FUCK caedo

[glad ermine]

I am so excited for new melee weapon

[copper hawk]

Ok hes KIND ACOOL ok for a Vlueberry OKKKKK

[glad ermine]

Power sword will be fun

[copper hawk]

But SISTER

WE NEED MORE SISTER REPRESENTATION !!!!!!!!

[glad ermine]

for a blueberry so based...

[copper hawk]

Blood angels

All the way

Best legion

Best primarch ,,

Rowboat is honestly like up there

He's very cool

[glad ermine]

Crimson fists are best blueberries

[median steeple]

Nyra Veyrath is her name

[copper hawk]

Reading dark imperium he miiiight be my new fav

[glad ermine]

Only real ones remember the old poster boys

[copper hawk]

Sobs

[glad ermine]

Yeah it looks great

[copper hawk]

Release2

2026

Rolls over and dies

[glad ermine]

Lmao

Yeah

[glad ermine]

Lot of darktiding it to cope till then

[copper hawk]

Fuck that

Havent laid a grubby lil paw on darktide in ages

[blazing cosmos]

Crusher feels like a wetnapkin 💔

[glad ermine]

Crazy

[copper hawk]

So burnt out on it

[blazing cosmos]

I'm sobbing

[copper hawk]

Game dead 2 me

Rogue trader saaaave me rogue trader

[copper hawk]

Do u have skullcrusher and slaughterer on it

[blazing cosmos]

Should I?

[carmine falcon]

no its just a combo weapon

[copper hawk]

Yes

Required blessings

They make it a monster

Objectively the best blessings

[blazing cosmos]

Idek what blessings I have on but it takes like a million hits on bulwark to kill em on damnation

[spare talon]

No
Its only for impact
Take hammerblow trauma
Power blessings are useless

[blazing cosmos]

Should I just swap to evis

[median steeple]

I need dark heresy to come out

[carmine falcon]

im not sure why they made a big two handed mace a combo weapon while u can light spam a fkn axe but it do be like that

[copper hawk]

Dont listen to cole

[median steeple]

I love that shit way more than rogue trader

[copper hawk]

If u swap to evis

Use my build

U will have fun

I pawmise

[glad ermine]

Crusher is okay. Never been my cup of tea nor is it exceptional. Push attacks are your highest source of damage

Push attack mf

Do you speak it

???

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00b4f08-9f8c-49af-a7fa-ddeb6e720287/shrednificent-ij-evis-build-havoc-ready

[blazing cosmos]

Yes

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/trollers-of-romania-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen0-anime-gif-26457873

[glad ermine]

Yes

[blazing cosmos]

Push attack with weapon active skill kinda goated

[copper hawk]

Havoc Ready !

[glad ermine]

OhhHhhhH im IJing it

[copper hawk]

@carmine falcon

[carmine falcon]

amazing video

[spare talon]

Skullcrusher is a 40-80% damage debuff inflicted when staggering an enemy, active when theyre staggered
Since its a debuff, its multiplicitive on paper, not additive like +damage buffs

[carmine falcon]

makes me wanna crash a plane into a big tower

[copper hawk]

Al quassam

[spare talon]

And slaughterer is damage impact and cleave also multiplicitive with those values

So yeah

Not running those means you're missing out on a lot

[carmine falcon]

spam push attacks or push attack into lgiht and boom crusher kills fast

[blazing cosmos]

I have slaughter and thunderous rn

Gonna swap em, thanks guys

[copper hawk]

U yielding carapace

[north sedge]

Crusher is good

[copper hawk]

Those r ur perks

Dump mobi or defences

Whatever it has i 4get

[blazing cosmos]

Yes

[glad ermine]

Power output

[copper hawk]

Dont dump power output it affects like another important stat i forget

[glad ermine]

U need defence for stam

[copper hawk]

Exhillious posted it

[carmine falcon]

crushers is good and it suffers from only being good

[copper hawk]

Do u dont

[spare talon]

Any weapon with reasonable impact with skullcrusher in the pool instantly makes it thr BiS blessing

[copper hawk]

U get 20% stam insta tly when hit for tness below 50%

[north sedge]

Except hanmer

[copper hawk]

Zeal gens the most stam of any class the fastest

[spare talon]

I keep forgetting that has it

[copper hawk]

If ur push attacking w the crusher (u should be) then ur gonna want desperation

Which means u want less stamina

[spare talon]

I was implying dont run it on dclaw

With a realistic number of buffs and duellist, an activated overhead then a fotf push attack will kill a crusher

If youre lacking in some buffs, fotf on the first attack will also kill (but its typically not worth it cuz you could either do a light overhead or another push attack which will kill from there)

[copper hawk]

Blah blah blah

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-star-real-id-gif-171574033455200879

[glad ermine]

Yeah i see that they updated it now. Guess i'm also used to much earlier crusher zealot. Not my kind of weapon (currently sweating on thammer)

That thing is

Fun but boy

Does it need work to handle well

[ivory marlin]

if yall had to associate me with a color would it be orange or green

[glad ermine]

Orange, somewhat matches your profile and keeping my mind calm

I hate things that don't match

[ivory marlin]

fair enough

[spare talon]

It doesnt reach the peak of its effectiveness with 2 braincells therefore its a bad weapon

Put the duelling sword in the bag bud

[glad ermine]

Funny enough its why i love it

Just like the mk3 evisc and the mk2 relic blade, some of my fav weapons in the game

[ivory marlin]

if dr pepper had a mascot id learn how to draw just to draw him naked

[glad ermine]

I actually feel like im working with something

[spare talon]

Skill expression??? In MY mechanically involved game???
No no no we can't have that garbage

[glad ermine]

For once

[ivory marlin]

guys should i finally give zealot a shot

[glad ermine]

You're right, go my macros

[glad ermine]

Depends on how religious you're feeling

[spare talon]

Every time I hear someone say "use skitarius" I burst a blood vessel

[glad ermine]

LMAO

SAME

[ivory marlin]

wow i sure gave him an outfit

[glad ermine]

God's freakiest zealot

[spare talon]

I can understand if its used for actual disabilities, but it never is

[glad ermine]

Looks like a medieval torturer

[ivory marlin]

chat who am i playing tonight

[glad ermine]

99.9% of cases such mods never are

Jehovah witness is a peak name

[nimble lark]

you underestimate how disabled most of the darktide community is

[ivory marlin]

and my arb john doe

[glad ermine]

Gotta name my bald zealot AnJew Tate

[spare talon]

Its only ever used to take the gameplay out of the game, or do things physically impossible by humans with extreme precision infinitely

[ivory marlin]

insane

[glad ermine]

Yep

Lmao

I'm happy Vermintide is as strict as it is tbh

[ivory marlin]

dude my darktide keeps crashing

[glad ermine]

Modders being seperate

Just like in sm2

[glad ermine]

Bless the machine spirit

[ivory marlin]

cole can you stop my darktide from crashing

you are on the playtest team

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-jam-baby-happy-rattle-microgame-gif-3717647018067494000

[glad ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dog-allenmech-aso-sinumbong-sinumbong-chinese-dog-gif-10611161905665948359

Chinese angry dog is my favourite new thing

[spare talon]

The only macro I think is fine is light attack spamming for fast weapons
Its rarely the best option, and just saves your finger (like have you seen how fast marty taxe swings)

[plush estuary]

@quick narwhal

[spare talon]

I think thats hardly comparable to scripting entire combos or qq deimos/purg macros at pixel perfect speed

[glad ermine]

Nuncio aquila martyr fotf taxe, how will it look

[frosty herald]

I once saw a macro for l1 spam in a match

Like why do they think l1 caxe is the best hordeclear

[spare talon]

Rashad l1?

With qq?

[frosty herald]

Believe so

It was a hot minute ago

[spare talon]

Because the swings come out faster cuz youre canceling the animation reset

At the exact frame its available to do so
Every time
Cuz youre not the one playing the game
Its your computer

[quick narwhal]

Thanks

[ivory marlin]

Wow chat i was finally allowed into a group for a havoc higher than 1

[hexed igloo]

There be mods for light spam

[dull iris]

skitarii

i heavily suggest it for fast weapons

[glossy nimbus]

what should be on my ds

[frosty herald]

This was before skitariius

[dull iris]

unga bunga

[frosty herald]

Uncanny

[dull iris]

its predecessor

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/1450-中共-中國-19-武漢-gif-22384529

[frosty herald]

But your going in the right way with relentless strikes

[peak violet]

qq scripts are actual cheating

[dull iris]

they are allowed tho?

[peak violet]

doesn't make them less of a cheat

fatshark just don't care

[glossy nimbus]

Do I got the right mark

[dull iris]

if they are allowed, they are not cheats

[heady rapids]

fatshark explicitly allows macros

[sullen forge]

They patched out staff QQ quelling

[frosty herald]

Yeah

[sullen forge]

So it wasn’t intended there

[frosty herald]

Some people got really upset by this LOL

[dull iris]

tho honestly, i think they should just stop QQ cancelling from being a thing

[heady rapids]

yeah true

[spare talon]

The problem is how do you implement that

[peak violet]

qq is fine, because you are limited by your human hands

when you're not, it becomes ridiculous

[dull iris]

add a forced delay if you switch weapons more than once in 1 sec

[heady rapids]

that would be awful

[spare talon]

How do you put that in a game that doesnt inadvertently make normal gameplay worse

[dull iris]

or more than twice

[visual stream]

So you can spend 14 mana to control someone's entire turn

[spare talon]

Like this
This fucking sucks

[sullen forge]

Psyker mains

[heady rapids]

game already fucks up on interactions with its ping

[sullen forge]

End of story

[peak violet]

how to kill weapon specialist

💀

[spare talon]

Exactly

[sullen forge]

Psyker mains for some reason are always so, snobby

Idk how to explain it

[spare talon]

That would kill my main vet build

[dull iris]

then make it a quarter of a second

[peak violet]

or

OR

[sullen forge]

That would kill the most like “reliable” vet build

[peak violet]

you know

[frosty herald]

Its always fucking psyker mains with cheat mods and glitches

[sullen forge]

It’s usually what they fall back too

[peak violet]

don't allow mods that automate it with the speed of a machine

[spare talon]

"Psykernautics"

wallhacks

[visual stream]

Errm well

The psyker can sense them in lore

[spare talon]

"Improvements to psyker gameplay"

literal cheats

[heady rapids]

accessibility mod for psyker players

[visual stream]

so only natural

[sullen forge]

Ermm uhm spidey senses

[spare talon]

It literally is

[visual stream]

that they get to sense them in game

[gaunt roost]

ew how will i spam swap weapons in elevators then

[frosty herald]

Cause theyre so bad at the game they can be considered disabled?

[heady rapids]

yeah yam

[gaunt roost]

what’s the new class mr beta tester i won’t tell anyone you told me

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-smirk-speed-told-you-ishowspeed-gif-9786367680542617592

[long oasis]

Arbites has disrupt destiny but for more than one dude

[dull iris]

you will stop spamming swap weapons, you will instead get the mod "for the emperor" and spam the "No" voiceline

[peak violet]

this kinda reminds me of wow, where they had to design bullshit mechanics to challenge players with all their weakuaras and helper addons

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-cd-sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-eggman-dr-eggman-gif-6513385627739669387

[spare talon]

If psyker isnt strong enough for them to be carried with their skill (or lack thereof), then the only next step is literally cheating

[long oasis]

How about we just delete all magic and staves from the game and make psyker a pure melee class

[heady rapids]

spider sense is fair game cause it doesn't give you info you shouldn't have

[frosty herald]

It would still top dps