zealot-class

[wraith halo]

Do you use a breaching tool for everything

[long oasis]

in this economy yeah

[gray ice]

Yes

[long oasis]

me when the 6.5k hp crusher train rolls up and my only weapon is a heavy sword

[gaunt roost]

so just aoe stagger, no extra damage?

[mystic ether]

Heavy sword is kind of whatever but I like broadswords so

[wraith halo]

All aboard

[mystic ether]

Beeg shrug

And I can't play the melee specialist class and not be on my edgemaster from soulcalibur tip

I actually should make an extra zealot modeled after him for fun

[exotic plaza]

yeah im askingit on vet

[carmine lance]

you know, it's funny. Considering I'm on the spectrum and have a number of neurodivergent diagnoses (ADHD, Autism Spectrum Disorder, OCD), I've never actually bothered to look into if there's any history in my family of neurodivergence

[exotic plaza]

since vet chat is fucking dead

[mystic ether]

Or do a gender swapped approximation

[carmine lance]

I can only assume there's history of it

[gray ice]

As in there are keys sorry skimmed that midway through doin something

[carmine lance]

but I've never directly bothered to look into it

[wraith halo]

You don't really need to once you realize how neurodivergent you are

You can just notice it in your folks

At least I did

[carmine lance]

yeah that's true

[wraith halo]

My dad is mega autistic and doesn't know it

[glossy nimbus]

Does stamina efficiency as a perk in ur curios make u go faster

[mystic ether]

I mean, if you got em then yeah it's in the family definitely. How those people have masked themselves and each other or how their expression may have manifested will all play a role.

[carmine lance]

if there's anything I can tell you tho, if I ever have kids in the future, dawg they are going to be FAR from neurotypical lmao

[gray ice]

My plan is mental compency checks past 65 and when I can't pass it I falcon dive out a plane with no chute and go out in style

[mystic ether]

Makes it so that you burn less stamina.

[long oasis]

burn bright and never fade away

[mystic ether]

So you can stay in stamina sprint longer.

[wraith halo]

The use of your stamina is more efficient, not what that stamina does

[mystic ether]

Technically it makes you faster but doesn't have an effect on sprint speed specifically.

[wraith halo]

It just makes you able to run at full speed longer

[carmine lance]

it's funny, but I genuinely don't know if I mask or not lmao

[gray ice]

Don't remember full details as I'm unable to play these days. soz about that

[scenic drift]

which technically, means you move faster through a given distance.

https://tenor.com/view/correct-futurama-the-best-kind-of-correct-yes-yep-gif-5787390

[wraith halo]

[mystic ether]

I just stopped caring to figure that out and decided to live. Fuck hiding myself away when there ain't shit I done other than exist in that context.

[scenic drift]

(unless the distance is shorter than normal sprint capacity)

[carmine lance]

I think I do mask a little because I can tell that people probably don't want me to randomly start info dumping to them about shit

[gray ice]

We all fade but I will not be wasting away a shallow husk of who I once was

[wraith halo]

We should have pop quizzes in chat to see how well people know the game and maybe learn something along the way

[wraith halo]

True that... I'll be gone long before then

[gray ice]

I would but I have a j to roll and some funk to get grooving on

[wraith halo]

Real

[deft badge]

Yeah I'll smoke to that

[wraith halo]

I'm packing my bowl rn so like

Yea

[scenic drift]

no way, i am betting on benevolent ai singularity that'll give me utopion living standards

[wraith halo]

Groovy

[scenic drift]

for foreveeer

[carmine lance]

so I give cursory explanations when I'm asked about interests

[misty nova]

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[mystic ether]

Like, there's a difference between needing to move smart because of a dangerous situation and living small because of some nasty beliefs conditioned into the fabric of societies that allow people to be determined as "undesirable" and "unfit" to live.

When it's for the lighter stuff, I just take my time with observation, steer conversations so people talk more about themselves (plenty love doing that) so I can have a better idea on how I engage from then on. Casual good faith probing for information conversation.

[gray ice]

@wraith halo @deft badge toke crew can vibe together then holup

https://youtu.be/nFitrJpVKqs?si=dwBUyV4qbrgFOivR

[gray ice]

Robot girlfriend is right around the corner

[wraith halo]

Okay okay

[gray ice]

Just don't sleep around her

[wraith halo]

I like it so far

[mystic ether]

Yeah nah fuck that lol

[visual stream]

Premise of Scythe

Decent book

[scenic drift]

https://tenor.com/view/brad-pitt-deal-yeah-right-agreed-i-would-make-that-deal-gif-15679299

[carmine lance]

I just have trouble starting to feel comfortable to actually start being indepth and showing passion for things because I understand a lot of my interests are niche

[wraith halo]

@gray ice this is a banger ngl!

[carmine lance]

compared to mainstream anyways

[scenic drift]

Their programming will not allow for you to have a choice in the matter.
You will be pampered.

[mystic ether]

If the AI can actually be a homie, sure. Fuck having a computer determine my humanity like that. Absolutely not. The same logics often pushing that are the same ones that say the only life I deserve is on behind bars, locked in someone's bedroom or dead in the street/earth

[gray ice]

This a song passed through the fam, been jamming this for a solid decade

[carmine lance]

I'm not gonna start talking to random people all about warhammer lol

[gray ice]

[mystic ether]

Fuck that AI choomba

[deft badge]

Like the background track, less into the vocals tbh if I can be entirely honest

[scenic drift]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-hmm-gif-25634245

[mystic ether]

WAIT WAIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING DON'T FUCK THE AI CHOOM

[wraith halo]

Ai will be good when humanity learns how to properly serve itself imo

[carmine lance]

tbf I still do live without masking, just more so by myself and with people online

[wraith halo]

Ai is not gonna do anything for us, it's gonna make current issues worse

[mystic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-matrix-neo-matrix-fuch-you-middle-finger-gif-12470358798786918596

[gray ice]

Ay different strokes. The beat is most of the reason I listen to it. If the vocals were gone I'd be sad but still be jamming just the same

[deft badge]

AI would be cooler if it wasn't being used by who it's being used by to do what they're doing with it

[mystic ether]

Fuck that control everything ass white man lmao

[wraith halo]

We fr gotta fix the myriad issues of society before we just program them into our ais

[deft badge]

Looking at you Palantir

[carmine lance]

my dad keeps telling me to go into prompt engineering and to start familiarizing myself with ai

I very much do not want to do that

[wraith halo]

I liked the conversation he and the Oracle had at the end of the third movie

[deft badge]

Tbh I find i like vocalless music a lot lately, unsure why. Maybe I get to impose my own meaning on the song that way.

[wraith halo]

It was alive, but it chose what it did

Which makes it all the more sad

[mystic ether]

Named after the literal scrying orb of an evil ass wizard

A corrupted one at that iirc.

Wait was sarumon corrupted or just down for it anyway to make the corruption easier?

[mighty root]

@solar gorge pure unfiltered slop

[deft badge]

I have no idea i don't even like LoTR tbh

[gray ice]

I listen to a lot of nujabes instrumental tracks

[mystic ether]

That's fair

[gray ice]

Luv sic vol 3 for example goes way harder with just instrumentals imo

[scenic drift]

Palantir aren't really corrupted.

it's just that Sauron got one.

and he's got mad ex-maia mojo to basically cast illusion on shit you see

and lie to you

[gray ice]

Like this one https://youtu.be/NhG4cQATy6c?si=Urpp7xDPw9ieZLLG

[mystic ether]

A surveillance tool steered by a pos that wants to artificially enforce its will on the users then sounds like

[deft badge]

I think I'm in my Gen X Dad era cause I just listen to a lot of TOOL lately tbh, which definitely has vocals

[scenic drift]

like, you basically want to use magic spy satellite to check on how many troops sauron got and he hacks the spy satellite and tells you he has got all the troops and you're fucked, just kys and burn yourself and your son who's in a coma

[mystic ether]

Unethical dark magic moment.

Gaming

[scenic drift]

That's called The Denethor Special.

[deft badge]

The internet, tbh, never had ethical intentions

It was designed in part by the US military

[mystic ether]

I'm just joking about dark magic.

[gray ice]

I introduced a buddy of mine to tool some odd months ago. Dudes a rock nut and somehow never heard of em

[carmine lance]

I've heard of TOOL but never listened to them

[deft badge]

Grew up on em tbh, didn't like them for a long time, maybe cause dad did or maybe cause I didn't get the songs. Listened to Ænema again recently and it just clicked.

[wraith halo]

It's like sublime

I feel you gotta be into it to find em

[mystic ether]

But yes, it wouldn't be the first time a technological big toy shows up with preceeding fuckery steering its inevitable consumer use.

GPS is a large example.

[deft badge]

Grew up listening to Sublime too tbh

[gray ice]

We were in discord chillin in VC I queued up parabola and schism. And midway through parabola he was like "ayo who TF is this?"

[mystic ether]

And within that, social media for example. Literally just a creep site made by creep men that had another creep shyst it from under them.

[frosty herald]

i grew up listening to beartooth

[gray ice]

Dude has introduced me to a lotta rock, fact he asked me that made my head tilt a bit haha

[deft badge]

I'd say I listened to a lot of Tool, Beastie Boys, Sublime, and Nirvana as a kid

[gray ice]

It's funny what you are and aren't exposed to even as a fan of something

[deft badge]

And Metallica tbh

[wraith halo]

I grew up with my dad, which meant Led Zeppelin , Pink Floyd, and Simon & Garfunkel

[deft badge]

Do love Pink Floyd tbh

[wraith halo]

Animals best album

[gray ice]

Metallica go hard so does beastie boys

[carmine lance]

I listened to a lot of classic rock and alt/grunge, because my dad would always listen to that on the radio while I was growing up

[deft badge]

Pink Floyd clicked for me when I listened to Any Color You Like on mushrooms looking at Christmas lights

[carmine lance]

but I do love prog rock like Pink Floyd

[wraith halo]

If you ever do so again try animals as I mentioned

It's like 4 15+ minute tracks

[carmine lance]

animals is a nice album

[deft badge]

I too like Opeth

[frosty herald]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6Q8N3mLJecy8mBJknEl1D5?si=9d272d35731d4524

[gray ice]

I listened to a lot of house and funk because my father was a bouncer/bartender in a lotta NYC clubs

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-head-tongue-out-gif-4829872985915087399

[carmine lance]

I find I listen to a ton of industrial rock now

Nine Inch Nails is fantastic

[gray ice]

I'd just be hanging with him late night in cafes and clubs and shit listening to house music and funk and shit

[wraith halo]

I find I listen to whatever my partner puts on when they stream because I don't really listen to music that much

[carmine lance]

fair lol

[wraith halo]

At least not anymore

[gray ice]

Fuckin love the cinematic orchestra

[carmine lance]

I also like to listen to death grips every now and then

[deft badge]

My father almost exclusively listens to country after voting for trump, it disappoints me

Man used to have good taste

[carmine lance]

that's very disappointing

[wraith halo]

This is how it truly rots your soul

[carmine lance]

politics killed his music taste

[gray ice]

That's a hard blow

[wraith halo]

[deft badge]

Politics did a lot to that guy

[carmine lance]

[wraith halo]

Moment of silence for tongs dad

So shitty when that happens

[deft badge]

He's not dead yet so I keep trying

[wraith halo]

As long as you aren't hurting yourself in the attempts

[deft badge]

What's life without a bit of suffering, yk?

[wraith halo]

A lot more calm I hear

[gray ice]

A bit????

[carmine lance]

I am glad my dad is at least left leaning and generally open minded, but it still sucks that things are strained between us

[gray ice]

I got conned

[sterile stone]

Learning lore

I bet you own a black turtle neck too

[mystic ether]

Lots of reggae, soca, sparrow, jazz, hip-hop, funk, rock etc. Basically just hella black music genres.

I worked on hip-hop backwards kind of. Grew up with a lot of popular radio shit but some of own folk had a lot of cds for what was popping at the time and I had a bit of a more international exposure to music broadly that I didn't exactly appreciate as much at the time.

With hip-hop, it was always there, but there was the right amount of interference in my mind and background that could make it easier to not vibe with a lot if it didn't like instantly click with me sonically. Main reason why I just loved Missy Elliot before her health took her in and out of the game.

[deft badge]

I like understatements for comedic effect, if you want my actual take it's "we live in hell you might as well add to the fires" but that's rather bleak.

[wraith halo]

@gray ice paper chase was incredible btw ty

[wraith halo]

My partner fucking loves missy elliot

[gray ice]

I'd look like a lost rasta in a black turtleneck

[mystic ether]

She's pretty good.

[wraith halo]

Do you listen to any Curtis Mayfield

[gray ice]

Sometimes honesty is bleak lol

[mystic ether]

Don't think so

At least not yet.

[gray ice]

I have

[mystic ether]

Might have and never remembered

[wraith halo]

Dude's a legendary black artist

A pioneer even

[sterile stone]

Get ourselves a podcast going we could be the next aba and preach

[mystic ether]

I'm focusing a lot on Brother Ali atm.

[mystic ether]

It wouldn't surprise me to just look up some tracks.

[gray ice]

Blessed knowledge

[mystic ether]

And then find out that I've heard his shit elsewhere.

[gray ice]

Of course. Pusherman is an absolute classic

[mystic ether]

There was this really nice jazz radio station that got axed and replaced with sloppy pop.

😭

[sterile stone]

I'm yo momma

I'm yo daddy

[mystic ether]

Gentrification is so vicious.

Lmao

[sterile stone]

I'm that...

[gray ice]

But way more unhinged and that's prolly why YouTube would be upset with us

[carmine lance]

ngl, I can't stand pop music

it's all so fucking samey

[deft badge]

I like hyperpop tbh

[solar gorge]

memetic kill agent

[sterile stone]

Honestly, I feel like I'd make a good podcast co-host

[wraith halo]

There's plenty of non samey pop music

[sterile stone]

I'm a master of the arts of bullshitting

[mystic ether]

I certainly hope not. Sad day when men make a career being socially unwashed clowns.

[wraith halo]

Not every podcaster is Joe Rogan c'mon now

[sterile stone]

That's true

[carmine lance]

also pop is very confusing to me when I actually start to think about it. It's called pop because it's popular, right?

so then what genre is it outside of that

[sterile stone]

I use to like listening to Joe til he went a little overboard.

[sullen forge]

I barely listen to podcasts

[mystic ether]

Oh wait I'm thinking of fresh and fit.

Aba and preach are like

[sterile stone]

Aba and Preach are bro black for the most part.

[sullen forge]

The art of the grift claims all

[gray ice]

I listened to a lot of podcasts years back

[carmine lance]

the only podcast I listen to is Please Stop Talking

[sterile stone]

They're the dudes that clowned Stevie for being a black dude who's heavily anti-black

[wraith halo]

Many different genres

[sterile stone]

And Fresh and Fit aswell

[carmine lance]

and haven't listened to it in a while

[mystic ether]

Eh...sorta. their idea of pro-blackness gets very selective when the "wrong" kinds of black people are involved. No idea if they changed and how and whatever.

[wraith halo]

The concept of "a hit" is very different today than it was even 20 years ago

Everyone listens to their own little niches now, there's less of an overarching cultural ear than when everyone was listening to the radio

[mystic ether]

And fresh and fit is just. Lol them mfkers do not go to anywhere where black folk don't play that shit

Lmao

[deft badge]

Its a fucking shame what that mf has done to comedy

[wraith halo]

Pop is contemporary. Rock was pop once

[carmine lance]

so like what genre would, idfk, Taylor Swift's music fall under

[wraith halo]

I don't know exactly what they'd call it

[viral tendon]

Slop

[sterile stone]

That kinda bugs me ngl

[viral tendon]

/j

[sterile stone]

People start out cool and all

Then they sell out

[carmine lance]

that's exactly my point lmao. about why pop is confusing to me

[deft badge]

New age country

[carmine lance]

fuck it, sure lmao

[wraith halo]

This is the genres for we are never getting back together

[sullen forge]

Money

end of story

[deft badge]

Yeah sometimes its country

[sullen forge]

Greed can make people completely change

[deft badge]

Sometimes its poppy

[mystic ether]

In some cases, the sell out part was always the plan fr. Podcasts are reliant on listeners the same as any other audio entertainment and what not. So personalities, especially artificial ones are very easy maintain.

[sullen forge]

Being poor all my life I've been really content with small things

[wraith halo]

It's literally

Contemporary dance music

Meaning that it's music for its time

[deft badge]

Taylor Swift is just the woman version of kid rock, making whatever genre at that moment

[wraith halo]

Basically

[carmine lance]

some of these really feel like words just randomly put together

[scenic drift]

Nah, it's carefully crafted.

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-t-swift-hi-its-gif-27009848

[mystic ether]

Any time someone says a lot of stuff I agree with on the internet, I take a step back and run it back again, squinting harder.

[viral tendon]

Made a whole song about Travis’s dick btw

[scenic drift]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

[mystic ether]

And most of what I'm into for podcasts is usually stuff that leads me to do my own research on the topic an episode is about or whatever

[wraith halo]

You should be doing this in any case, with any figure

[mystic ether]

Yeah that's the point.

[wraith halo]

Anyone with power and sway should be scrutinized

[viral tendon]

This is something I’m surprised isn’t the normal opinion. I’m still confused as to why people put celebrities on such high pedestals

[carmine lance]

reminds me of how one of my friends was talking with me about how it's becoming rarer for people to interact with things in good faith

[deft badge]

I think you should scrutinize popular music very, very heavily.

[mystic ether]

Even outside of that, I just want to not be nodding my head and not knowing why. Plenty of times where someone says nice stuff, but then any amount of decent enough research and time taken to connect things critically it's like "eh, you definitely are wrong about x y z and this is some serious shit. Why be confident about that?" Is my thinking.

[mystic ether]

I spit on the imperium

[deft badge]

Call me cynical, but I think anything that reaches mass audiences is looked at as a tool of control by the powers that be.

[carmine lance]

not a criticism against you by the way, but in the sense that people aren't sincere in what they talk about

[frosty herald]

There are currently a few industry plants

[viral tendon]

Because if you interact in good faith, you might have to confront that you are wrong, and it’s more comfortable to just outright deny different viewpoints

[wraith halo]

I think anyone with a half functioning brain would

Hell, even a quarter

And even then, as long as the right person is there those people would choose to spit on it too

[viral tendon]

And yet, some people still somehow think they’re the good guys

[mystic ether]

It can be easily leveraged yes. In plenty of cases, private interests are actually entire source of mis/disinformation hubs and their lackeys doing PR for whatever entities are doing it. Usually to promote horrible things and manufacture consent.

[deft badge]

Agreed.

[sterile stone]

MGMT is about as good as it gets for electro-pop

[carmine lance]

personally I seek to be informed. If it turns out I'm wrong about something, then I'll own it. I'm not gonna deny I'll probably be feeling embarrassed or ashamed about it, but I'd much rather be informed to correct my misunderstandings

[gray ice]

I just robbed a man in cold blood

[mystic ether]

You know we say this and then we know what's up with easy problems in the 40k Fandom and their ability to understand the media they consume, let alone any of the real life things informing it.

[sterile stone]

Breh

[gray ice]

Went with low tier gear, folded a dude, came out with his Bettina IV and a vulcano

[sterile stone]

@wraith halo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI2XVLoPMJs

[wraith halo]

I just like to give people the benefit of the doubt, it's my flaw

[sterile stone]

See I told you it's rewarding rolling them low geared players

[deft badge]

Daniel vs Cooler Daniel; https://youtu.be/6QL_bUCuhvo?si=tgoUInoh_SrzZ0JX

[viral tendon]

I’m the same way. The thing is, many aren’t. That’s why they fall into things like red pill rabbit holes, because it encourages them to just ignore and blame others rather than reflect

[sterile stone]

Can't let mfs get too comfortable.

[carmine lance]

tbf warhammer is very upfront about how much of a shithole the imperium, and setting as a whole, is

[void bison]

free loadout runs on blue gate have given me an era of prosperity

[deft badge]

Tbh I like Justice and MGMT and I already had that copied

[viral tendon]

“The cruelest and bloodiest regime imaginable”

Direct quote

[frosty herald]

We love duty

[deft badge]

And then mfs go "hey thats pretty cool"

[sterile stone]

I wanna hurt you so bad....

Brother

[carmine lance]

exactly lmfao

[deft badge]

"What if Imperium good guys cause human?"

[sterile stone]

Duty does not wear urban camo....

[viral tendon]

I mean, it is cool, in the same way a Sith Lord is cool

[deft badge]

gets angry about black ultramarine on book cover

[mystic ether]

It really depends for me. Benefit of doubt for some is more like "relinquished blindspot exposure" to others.

I've had more than enough of my share of people playing in my face when I'm just trying to be real with them. So I just allow some to think I gave them benefit of doubt but all I really did was allow them to expose themselves more the moment I catch them in another lie.

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/4lions-gif-17089680875914492310

[sterile stone]

@gray ice Come get this boy

Mans said this is duty

I'ma have a stronk

[viral tendon]

Never ask a “human supremacist” what they think about immigrants

[wraith halo]

There is a sort-of ironic humor in the fact that so many chuds like the world of 40k and want to emulate it, despite it being so horrific

[gray ice]

That's clearly Tariq Nasheed cmon now

[deft badge]

Always ask them, force them into undefenable positions for all to see

[wraith halo]

I'm not saying it's always one side

[sterile stone]

Fucking childish

[wraith halo]

But...

[sterile stone]

I knew fuckery was afoot

[wraith halo]

[frosty herald]

It was a general statement

[deft badge]

Tbh I think 40ks irony goes over a lot of people's heads

[frosty herald]

I know its monolita

[viral tendon]

We’re in a climate in wich they don’t have to defend it anymore

[mystic ether]

If it's something that seriously requires intervention and I know what the conflict is actually about? Nah. Fuck that benefit of doubt. They knew what they were doing the whole time otherwise we wouldn't be in x predicament where now mfkers gotta have people confronting them.

[deft badge]

I know, I can see my neighbors flying flags everyday.

[wraith halo]

Such is life I suppose.

Good faith is gone

[mystic ether]

And when I know a track record of pointless, dangerous dishonesty, ain't no way I'm giving benefit of doubt at that rate.

[carmine lance]

I will say that warhammer is certainly interesting in how needlessly cruel or how abysmal the conditions are at times because of the spectacle of it all, but at the end of the day I can at still say "holy shit there is nothing worth idolizing here"

[mystic ether]

You gotta be practicing that level of bullshit to be that bad about it and some people really think they clever when all they've been doing is conning people for they good will.

[viral tendon]

Yep. Hatred of the “other” is normalized, even rewarded. There’s no need to goad these people into voicing their pestilent beliefs, they tend to crow about them on their own

[carmine lance]

sure I went as a kriegsman to comicon and for halloween, but that doesn't mean I want to be in the guard

[deft badge]

Tbh I'd like it more if the commentary wasn't reduced to pulp

[carmine lance]

wdym?

[mystic ether]

No, it's just strained. And good faith doesn't always mean passivity or enablement.

[gray ice]

I need nuglife to drop more shit I'm tired of this bruh

[wraith halo]

@gray ice when you smoke with glass do you like using ice

In da water

[mystic ether]

You can check a friend over something not cool because you care about them for example.

[wraith halo]

True

Had to do that sometimes

[mystic ether]

What's the point of having friends that just enable shithead antics yk?

[gray ice]

I hardly use glass, mostly just roll Js. I've heard of that tho makes it smoother and cooler obvs

[wraith halo]

Had it done a few times to me as well

[gray ice]

I'm that friend

[deft badge]

Most warhammer books are genuinely written for entertainment and without nuanced takes on said subjects, very few actually have meaningful things to say. Maybe I'm missing the forests for the trees but, it hit me when I read Twice Dead King that most warhammer books are simply devoid of greater commentary because it's one of the first I read and felt like was true literature.

[wraith halo]

😅 y'all would have found me less than agreeable when I was younger and didn't know anything

[gray ice]

Im throwing bricks when the suspect behavior starts up

[mystic ether]

I've had homies check me too. Sometimes the people closest to you are the main ones that can remind you that you can literally be better than that

[viral tendon]

Pretty sure everyone was like that

[mystic ether]

Makes the bond far stronger.

[carmine lance]

that's a very fair point

[wraith halo]

Sure but still

[sterile stone]

You can't stop me

[gray ice]

I'm as boring now as I was as a kid

We all have our character arcs

[sterile stone]

Truth to that.

[sullen forge]

Lmao same

[gray ice]

I got a lock in a sock with your name written on it in sharpie for when I get to texas

[wraith halo]

I've become very radical, I just know when and where to say things and where to hold my tongue behind my teeth

[deft badge]

I was a horrendous human being a decade ago which is why I believe all people are capable of change.

[mystic ether]

Unless people get better starts early, all this is part of just being better for the better if you ask me. People serious about changing themselves, even if it's hard and there's a lot of interference from indoctrination, easy to reproduce cycles of harm, etc can genuinely chsnge themselves.

[sullen forge]

Some people just dont grow out of that phase unfortunately

🚬

[gray ice]

The caveat here is they have to want to change

[wraith halo]

I'm happy with how far I've come and I only hope that I can keep going and improving

[mystic ether]

And even if one improves, it's not like they're "done" with being able to learn differently

[sterile stone]

I live near the federales, you ain't touching me.

[sullen forge]

Im proof of the Anti-Furry to Furry pipeline LMAO

[sterile stone]

I'm bullet proof

[wraith halo]

Isn't this every furry nowadays

[sullen forge]

Uh

[gray ice]

I have more than a few examples of people who have not and will not ever change. They've caused me inexcusable strife .

[wraith halo]

[sullen forge]

give or take 50/50

[wraith halo]

I bet all the newer furs are

[sullen forge]

Its why im still rather laid back or cautious with other furries

[viral tendon]

I mean, to a certain point. If someone is a full grown adult, wife and kids type shit, and they’re still repugnant, they gotta go. There’s unlikely to be a chance of rehabilitation

[wraith halo]

I don't really hang out in furry servers tho there is too much drama and just pointless shit

💔

[sullen forge]

^

holy truth nuke

[carmine lance]

same here lmao

[sullen forge]

its just Highschool

except its grown ass adults

LMAO

[deft badge]

Before that they must also be put into a situation that causes doubt in their beliefs. Makes them ask "why?". It's not easy, but it happens.

[mystic ether]

when it's that cooked for some there's only so much one can do. And sometimes change for the better can mean telling someone that it's 100% over between you and them based on whatever the offense was that truly warrants that response. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sterile stone]

Ngl I've heard alot of furry servers are just endless porn and people flirting with one another.

[sullen forge]

Thats a section of it

[wraith halo]

I would consider those to be on the tame side

[carmine lance]

dude honestly. either that or there's little discussion about anything other than smut

[wraith halo]

At least that's consenting adults having fun

[sullen forge]

see what a normal person does is not fucking bring it up publicly

[gray ice]

They've never caught me to this day

[mystic ether]

If they really want to get better, they gotta dig deep and start with whatever support they can muster while building up that willpower to take that accountability.

[sullen forge]

if you have NSFW idgaf just please

[gray ice]

What makes you think that's gonna change

[deft badge]

I agree, the older you get the more firm in your ways you are. Simple fact of life. I'll give a teen more of a pass that a 30 year old, yk?

[sullen forge]

dont shofar it around publicly

[radiant raptor]

its not something i would join a specific community for

[void bison]

I think after work ill either keep trying torrente and anvil or use venator and shotgun

[radiant raptor]

if a server happens to have a ton of furries so what

[sterile stone]

I'm light skin, trust, I get benefits

[radiant raptor]

if you seek out the furry server you'll get Furries'

[wraith halo]

The real issue is the constant petty drama between everyone and furries being notoriously poor at emotion management

[sterile stone]

I generally don't think most people join the furry fandom for the porn, it's just kinda a natural occurance.

[void bison]

for some reason I want to use hairpin IV as well

[wraith halo]

Almost all of them are uwu so lonely cuddle me pls and don't know how to make a real friend

[sullen forge]

This honestly just stems from being social outcasts also

[mystic ether]

Pyrrhic amenities are easily dusted away by the same breeze that stokes them.

[radiant raptor]

i joined the 'furry fandom' because i think its pretty cool when people draw characters with fur

[sullen forge]

literally no one liked me at my school LMAO

[viral tendon]

Yeah. A teenager can grow out of it. Someone in his thirties won’t, and has to go. cough cough charlie cough cough

[sterile stone]

This sounds like every femboy I've ever met ever.

[deft badge]

Most of the time when I see someone with their kinks in their bio it's a furry, is what I have to say.

[wraith halo]

Twinks are so fuckin overrated bro

[radiant raptor]

this just seems like how it is in general now

[gray ice]

Eloquently worded

[wraith halo]

The valley girl of gay culture

[radiant raptor]

are we still doing sweeping generalizations

[carmine lance]

people put their kinks in their bio?

[sullen forge]

Yeah?

for some fucking reason

[frosty herald]

people who are genuinely ill

[carmine lance]

I've never seen this

[sterile stone]

Nah I'm different, trust

[deft badge]

Say what you will but I think political assassinations are a sign of the times. Not a good thing either. Is what it is tho, not like we have necromancers.

[viral tendon]

That sounds… bold

[sterile stone]

[gray ice]

Sadly

[sullen forge]

I have unfortuantely

[radiant raptor]

because who fucking reads discord bios

and who cares

[wraith halo]

Me

[sullen forge]

I've seen the parts of the internet that are degenerate

[visual stream]

Okay but they also thrive in their own communities so like

[mystic ether]

Not exactly, no. But the effort is going to be much greater the longer the behavior is sustained.

Again. The person has to be willing to see themselves for who they are in this case I think and actually come to the point of "this has to stop" in my mind.

[obsidian prairie]

Me

[viral tendon]

I just don’t view the killing of a white supremacist as something that should be political

[visual stream]

Idk I feel like it shouldn't be as bad

[deft badge]

I like reading people's bios and usernames to get an idea of what I'm dealing with sometimes.

[sullen forge]

Besides you wouldn't hurt little o'l me

[frosty herald]

hot take

[frosty herald]

murder is bad

[peak violet]

source?

[sterile stone]

It gets worse when the 4chan weirdos gather on discord.

[gray ice]

Bro is openly calling himself an uncle tom. The ancestors are side eyeing

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[wraith halo]

I don't think there's anything wrong with people having they spaces so long as everything is legal and done between consenting adults yk

[sullen forge]

well obviously

[radiant raptor]

i cant imagine putting the energy into giving a shit

[sterile stone]

I'd never submit, I just know how to play the hand I'm dealt.

[wraith halo]

Furries are too quick to demonize sexuality when it is very much not the large problem

The problem is immaturity

[sullen forge]

Im just not fond of people going very public about it in places where it really shouldn't be

[carmine lance]

also from the furry servers I've been in, I find it really funny that I've very rarely gotten random horny dms. This is because people go off of sona stereotypes, and i guess moths are still rare enough to not really have stereotypes

[viral tendon]

If they’re that old, chances are that they know they’re wrong and just don’t care

[sterile stone]

Personal loyalties always come first.

[mystic ether]

Just saying. Everyone thinks they different until the same pigs around them shove them in the same lineup. Regardless of how much they had them "benefits" prior. Them lanes are extremely narrow.

[sterile stone]

Law of the land

[deft badge]

It didn't accomplish anything outside galvanizing the people who already liked him in their beliefs and making the opposition seem radical and dangerous. More harm than good, imo.

[wraith halo]

But that's all I'mma say on that

[obsidian prairie]

Skill issue

[frosty herald]

assault the only class to be fluid at prestige 4 lvl 25

[mystic ether]

I mean at that point, which can happen it's like well shit oh well.

[wraith halo]

This is a dt server

[radiant raptor]

it is?

[deft badge]

Killing people, regrettably, doesn't change anyone's minds.

[visual stream]

Violence has, many times, been what changes times for the better, as sad as it is

[obsidian prairie]

Just care more

[radiant raptor]

changing people's minds also doesn't change their minds, we've figured this out by now

[viral tendon]

Good, it means that all the people who have to go next are making themselves known. Charlie was a repugnant tumour and so is anyone who liked him

[mystic ether]

Depends on the context but it's nice when people aren't getting murdered.

[visual stream]

We should have debated the nazis instead

[frosty herald]

i see we have devolved into extremism

[visual stream]

And we should keep debating their descendants until they create 2.0

[deft badge]

Well, we obviously didn't do a good enough job killing them.

[peak violet]

maybe you guys shouldn't advocate for murder

[hard nexus]

uh oh

more political in zealot chat

[radiant raptor]

whats done is done

[hard nexus]

this will surely not end poorly

[mystic ether]

If the idea of dropping nazis is extreme to you, you definitely missed the mark while also making yourself freely suspicious.

[visual stream]

Yeah because the US government is evil and didn't penalize them

Instead hiring them

[visual stream]

Operation paperclip or whatever

[mystic ether]

Like the ww2 ones especially lol

[sullen forge]

I was talking about my take on overly horny furries

and it devolved into this

[deft badge]

Neither did the USSR tbf, they had their own op paper clip.

[visual stream]

Exactly

[sterile stone]

Look what you've done

[peak violet]

it's all connected

[hard nexus]

nazi furries or whatever

[wraith halo]

Mods I had nothing to do with this

[visual stream]

People in power being evil as usual

[sullen forge]

Dont remind me

LMAO

[visual stream]

Perpetuating evil

xd

[wraith halo]

I was just saying shit

I promise

[peak violet]

hitler was a furry

[hard nexus]

have u seen that video of a furry talking about why we need slavery

[frosty herald]

people have a need to segway topics into their own opinions

[hard nexus]

and he has his stinky paws up on the table

[mystic ether]

Nazifurs lowkey had me shook and then I remembered that some mfkers just love being sellouts.

[visual stream]

we found the missing piece

[radiant raptor]

segue

[sullen forge]

Yes it was ragebait but it was also the worst shit I've ever seen

[gray ice]

Quick someone change the topic to lacerate/flesh tearer knife

[obsidian prairie]

Be a loving and kind individual

[radiant raptor]

correcting you because its a cool word

[sullen forge]

Something something Burned Furs

[void bison]

I advocate nazi go bye bye forever

[hard nexus]

i donnt knooowwwww

[obsidian prairie]

Holy message send delay

[heady rapids]

@sterile basalt @misty nova

[sterile stone]

zealot is underpowered and needs a buff

[glossy nimbus]

Hey how do I bunnyhop in this game

[hard nexus]

u cant

[sullen forge]

MISTER E SAID SO

SO ITS TRUE

[wraith halo]

I saw this trick in a video where someone vaulted and then turned to the side and when they left the railing it launched them

How do?

[hard nexus]

zealot is very strong,,, everyone else just needs to be at zealot level or below

[mystic ether]

I was just so confused because I just actually educated myself on a solid amount on them scumshits, what csme before them, etc. So it was like

https://tenor.com/view/cuh-guh-buh-gif-26372267

[radiant raptor]

first, you need to create the entire game of darktide from scratch

[frosty herald]

classes are
psyker
arbites
zealot
ogryn
veteran

[hard nexus]

i would be fine with some zealot nerfs if it would come along side nerfs to other classes

[deft badge]

Nah look. I'm all for killing nazis, my family is Polish and moved to America for a reason. I'm just saying I don't think we're going about things the right way rn, I suppose. I don't have good answers either. Mamdani got elected tho so good things do still happen ig.

[visual stream]

That's dodging off of it

I like doing that for distance too

[mighty root]

No way

[frosty herald]

ogryn is placed this low solely because people dont utilize the class to its fullest

[sterile stone]

God almighty, imagine a CS clone but 40k inspired.

[mighty root]

Vet is so op with the ps

[hard nexus]

ogryn is higher than zealot and vet

[void bison]

I dont play havoc but it does seem like things are too powercrept

[radiant raptor]

hope they power creep more until zealot can dual wield relic blades

[viral tendon]

No freak could ever be placed above a servant of the beneficent emperor!

[wraith halo]

Whatever you may think about the actual act itself, no one can deny that it wasn't an extremely effective act of political violence, perhaps THE most effective one in recent us history

[sullen forge]

"What im wondering is why they're mad about gay people when it started as being gay in the first place"

[mighty root]

Sadly melee psyker atm will destroy zealot

[sullen forge]

Veteran is held back from being better than the others solely cause they're fold immediately like a deck of cards if you cant manage your toughness

[frosty herald]

psyker is the undisputed champion of darktide

[sullen forge]

Or well

[viral tendon]

Lies! Deceit!

[sullen forge]

shit wrongly worded

[mystic ether]

That will been over time. Gotta say it wasn't a surprise that dude won that position given his opposition, campaign strategy, citizen involvement, etc.

Plenty of things that people are already doing things outside of establishment politics. If what dude actually does to back up his nice words with actions, certainly better than absolutely nothing but I hold my breath.

[sullen forge]

Veteran IS better

just

held back as a certain meta spot

[deft badge]

What did it actually change tho? Like really? Ig my measure for "effective violence" goes beyond just killing the guy.

[hard nexus]

a bit more fragile

[viral tendon]

My prayerbook says otherwise

[sullen forge]

cause they die immediately from lack of toughness

[visual stream]

Iron Will carries veteran

[frosty herald]

psykers sole weakness was scrier being high risk high reward and fragility

[mighty root]

Vet feels like how psyker should

[visual stream]

That's why they put it in the middle of the tree

[sullen forge]

You know what class does that but even better?

[hard nexus]

and then they removed that sole weakness

YUM

[sullen forge]

say it with me

[mighty root]

Psyker

[sullen forge]

say it with me!

PSYKER

[peak violet]

it with me

[mighty root]

It with me

[wraith halo]

People were fired, the government began cracking down on tv and media hosts for saying anything remotely not memorative

[void bison]

destruction

[frosty herald]

its more effective to change someone in their ways than to push them further into it through actions

[carmine lance]

I like to think I'm good with being nice to people as long as I have a reason to, otherwise I generally just try to avoid problematic people

[wraith halo]

Which is protected by the first amendment

[sullen forge]

My only gripe with current vet is

[radiant raptor]

they should add this as a darktide boss

[sullen forge]

A few tax nodes here and there

[scenic drift]

psyker>vet>arby>=>ogryn>zealot

[sullen forge]

and right tree just being the best pick in general

[frosty herald]

vet is dead last

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/only-war-reason-gaming-warhammer-gif-17304554

[sullen forge]

Honestly my opinion is something like this

[frosty herald]

sorry but thats how it goes

[peak violet]

🫃

[mighty root]

I wish o4b and ck were made into the same node

[viral tendon]

Ts gotta be bait

[radiant raptor]

i appreciate that when they reworked zealot, instead of giving it a built-in passive, they just made until death mandatory to take

[frosty herald]

vet has the issue of having barely any diverse melee

[mighty root]

Our if out for blood was made damage instead of on kill

[deft badge]

Thats not a great thing imo, but ig it's tangible change.

[sterile stone]

Bro where you getting these takes from

[radiant raptor]

uhhhh.... there's taxe... rashad... power sword

[scenic drift]

why would that matter if discussion which class is the most 'powerful'?

[sullen forge]

Psyker>>>>>>>Vet>Arby≥Ogryn≥Zealot

[drifting wolf]

how is double barrel shotfun veteran looking

[scenic drift]

when vet has the best melee in the game?

[sullen forge]

Thats my take

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-hitting-cat-cat-punching-cat-cat-slapping-cat-orange-cat-hitting-cat-gif-6585435513579432745

[radiant raptor]

good

very good

[sullen forge]

and im a Veteran main

[wraith halo]

The reaction to the reaction has been a little more good

[mighty root]

One of his best weapons

[wraith halo]

People fought back against it

[sterile stone]

Same

[hard nexus]

vet is above ogryn AND arbites???

[wraith halo]

Jimmy Kimmel got his show pulled but it was put back up

[sullen forge]

But I can confidentally say after the tree changes Veteran does pump out more than those classes

[viral tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-gif-20369681

[visual stream]

The best part of Steven Universe is that in the finale, talking DIDN'T WORK against space Hitler and they HAD to win with strength instead of words

[drifting wolf]

yeah... thinking we're back

[mighty root]

Ps vet is even more crazy than before

[sullen forge]

Honestly yeah after fucking with a shit ton of stuff

[heady rapids]

avatar with extra steps

[sullen forge]

But its solely from a few builds

[scenic drift]

If you think it's bait, you've really not played new vet

[visual stream]

You can change the minds of many common folk, but not the people creating the violence

[radiant raptor]

the best part of steven universe is when people genuinely believed they ever had the ability to kill space hitlers

[sullen forge]

you can juice out near Purg staff levels of damage with PS + DB

[frosty herald]

have we gotten to a point where arbites has been powercrept

[viral tendon]

I have. I prefer zealot

[deft badge]

I think I'll agree with that, people are more conciously aware of what we're dealing with and it's harder to feign ignorance for it. Idk. Next couple of years are gonna be interesting.

[mighty root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a00a382e-05b3-4642-98b3-106184bcd08e/vet-db-knife?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[radiant raptor]

arbites has always been the worst class

[hard nexus]

damn

fair

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[carmine lance]

arbites is good in terms of crowd control and toughness regen

[mighty root]

Bait!

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

pure bait

[viral tendon]

Okay, now this has to be bait

[carmine falcon]

arbites is good in terms of everything

[frosty herald]

arbites is tankier than ogryn

[scenic drift]

That's fine, vet requires you to not be as sloppy as a zealot allows you to get away with, it's not for everyone.

[heady rapids]

in the tier list ranking of being free or not??

[sterile stone]

Didn't Cole post some video of him just out damaging a purg staff psyker

[sullen forge]

Yeah

[hard nexus]

cole is also just goated tbf

[sullen forge]

Now im not saying

[mighty root]

On vet yeah

[sullen forge]

Vet needs a nerf

I genuinely think he just needs tweaks and changing in certain areas

[viral tendon]

Yep. I also like my funny bonk zealot build

[sullen forge]

and then he's like fine forever

[hard nexus]

chat is it time for ANOTHER ELSPETH CAMPAIGN

[frosty herald]

also about level of skill

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[radiant raptor]

shit the actual person with the anti-arbites agenda is offline

[sterile stone]

I mean he's good yeah, but all you need to do is copy his build and have common sense...

[sullen forge]

Zealot is also in a really good spot

[carmine falcon]

if vet is stronger than arbeetus then he needs a nerf

[mighty root]

Psyker, vet, oggy, Arby = zealot

[deft badge]

Psyker needs to be less braindead before I think vet needs to be nerfed tbh

[carmine falcon]

[frosty herald]

i think a very skilled psyker can outdamage a team with infernus staff

[sullen forge]

idk why people think its bad

[radiant raptor]

anyways arbites is useless because you dont need toughness and you dont need stagger, you only need damage

[sterile stone]

It really isn't that hard to be good at this game, it's just alot of people choose to be dumb as fuck for whatever reason.

[carmine lance]

it's funny to me that people complain of zealot being bad, meanwhile zealot still handles fine

[sullen forge]

Arby is just feeling dated by still its incredibly strong

[frosty herald]

i just want scrier venting to be gone and the peril immunity lowered

[carmine falcon]

dated?

whaty

[hard nexus]

you seem to be downplaying how much time and skill matters in this game

[heady rapids]

true, you also dont need hp or toughness

[radiant raptor]

i wish arbites had another weapon already

[hard nexus]

from the perspective of someone really really good, its easy to be decent

[heady rapids]

taking damage is optional

[frosty herald]

remember

[carmine falcon]

the class is like 4 months old with nerfs that were slaps on the wrist

[radiant raptor]

i hate that arbites cant use guns or melee, they can only attack with their dog

[frosty herald]

the only class ainz could truesolo with full kills is arbites

[deft badge]

I think arby is very good in a selfish way tbh, like its a great clutch class and a great solo class but it doesn't provide tangible team benefits in the same way Og does ig. My thoughts.

[carmine falcon]

and on release people were dooming about how he broke the game

[sterile stone]

I'm arguably one of the most low effort ass people in this game and I can do relatively well, cleared havoc 40 through the changes it's gone through atleast 3 times.

[frosty herald]

and hasnt to my knowledge replicated it with other classes

[sterile stone]

So yeah.

[carmine lance]

the amount of arbites players that don't fucking understand the shield has a crowd stagger button makes me tear my hair out. So many clutches are failed because they never fucking use it

[mighty root]

Arby atm is good

[scenic drift]

arby lacks great aoe damage, but has mine

[mighty root]

They don’t need to touch arby anymore

[frosty herald]

shotpistol is arbites's best ranged

[radiant raptor]

mine is useless because it doesnt kill

[sterile stone]

And I wouldn't call myself great by any measure.

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus Also notice im using Greater than or Equal signs because its extremely specific builds that make them better than X class

[radiant raptor]

so i dont use grenades

[hard nexus]

thats exactly what i was thinking about lmfao

[scenic drift]

and ASM has very good damage, properly juiced.

[copper hawk]

Dated

[heady rapids]

ex fucking cuse me

[hard nexus]

fair

[carmine falcon]

not even remotely close

[carmine lance]

I'm talking about the melee

[acoustic dune]

I SHOULD HAVE NOT DRINK ON A SCHOOL NIGHT

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-cat-browthy-gif-27553989

[frosty herald]

I DO NOT GIVE A F

[carmine lance]

lmao

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gif-21393998

[wraith halo]

Is it actually shotpistol

[radiant raptor]

shotpistol has incredible aura but also its reload and clip size, kill me

[wraith halo]

Always wanted to give it a go

[heady rapids]

shotpistol has a great niche that it fills with unyielding dmg

[sullen forge]

But anyways my take and it could be cope for all I know, I think Veteran is fine with being able to juice out damage with how squishy they are vs everyone else

[radiant raptor]

no its the exec shotguns

[heady rapids]

it is

[sullen forge]

if you want Vet but tankier

[frosty herald]

shotpistol has a near instant pullout time the only ranged with a shield and very good unyielding damage

[heady rapids]

wait

[sullen forge]

just play Psyker

[radiant raptor]

and agri i guess

[heady rapids]

no

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[mighty root]

I hate Arby shield

[heady rapids]

i misunderstood

[carmine falcon]

shotpistol is fun asf just go scattershot manstopped full meme and cleave entire hordes
make those 5 shots count

[heady rapids]

no it's the shotguns yeah

they are op

[sterile stone]

I won't lie, it's just alot more enjoyable at times to boot up darktide and just purg staff everything til I don't wanna play anymore.

[copper hawk]

Just play ogryn

[mighty root]

Tac axe Arby >

[viral tendon]

Shot pistol is awesome. The shotgun is probably better, but the shot pistol is more fun

[copper hawk]

Crabs in a bucket

[heady rapids]

shotpistol has insane boss dps + you get a shield

[copper hawk]

Ouppies in a kennel

[heady rapids]

but it has bad bps

[wraith halo]

Shotpistol sounds better

[deft badge]

Og isn't as fun to play as Arb tbh

[frosty herald]

haiiiiii

[heady rapids]

struggles to kill anything in 1 shot

[wraith halo]

I like the lil click it makes when you reload

[gaunt roost]

just play cookie clicker atp 💔

[radiant raptor]

shotpistol really needs the extra reload speed stuff

[copper hawk]

We all fight ogryn stay winning

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1434013467022725243/ezgif-584857aa029921.gif

[copper hawk]

No more brother war

[copper hawk]

Worthless

[scenic drift]

how much to get the glock upgrade for ARbites?

[deft badge]

I hate to say it but Arb just feels good to play

[sterile stone]

I need to justify those cosmetic purchases.

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1435324801534132224/ezgif-676c9187a95d1d.gif

[copper hawk]

Worthless

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1435285520099049542/ezgif-73912aaf5e9ca4.gif

[scenic drift]

revolvers are so 1973

[copper hawk]

Worthless

[carmine falcon]

its the truth
class is fun as fuck

[heady rapids]

welcome back footknight

[frosty herald]

shotpistol has the highest utility versus other ranged weapons

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124335205650538509/1283126260775784529/bonk_loop.gif

[gaunt roost]

he does so little melee damage tho

[frosty herald]

i wont back down on this stance

[mighty root]

I’m calling the creature

[heady rapids]

well nothing else can block

but you trade your breakpoints away

like all of them

[radiant raptor]

its a shame arbites has no abilities

[heady rapids]

you get a shield and boss dps

[frosty herald]

also shotpistol can perfect block

[heady rapids]

that's it

[carmine falcon]

brother what
crusher on him hits like a nuke
arb maul is a monster
he can make rashad and tac axe also hit like nukes

[deft badge]

What melee so you use cause I cant say arb shock Maul feels weak personally

[carmine falcon]

what are these takes today bros

[frosty herald]

i will agree

[heady rapids]

idk i only checked back in then saw people discuss furry nazis

[frosty herald]

arbites's melee dps isnt the best

[heady rapids]

dispatch e5&6 are peak btw

[deft badge]

Its normal again

[radiant raptor]

i keep walking into enemies but they arent taking damage

useless class

[heady rapids]

lmao

[frosty herald]

i no joke took like 10 minutes on wave 11 because there were like 5 plague ogryns and 3 chaos spawn

[solar gorge]

he lives

[frosty herald]

didnt take more than 10 health damage btw

[oak ice]

Doesn't mean they are effective or cool

[scenic drift]

compared to fgs, psword, it's not as good, but it's still very strong.

[carmine falcon]

aint no way we're calling arbi weak after people were calling him op and asking for billion nerfs just 4 months ago

[wraith halo]

Charlie Kirk body double died

Holy fuck

[frosty herald]

the powercreep continues

[carmine falcon]

did the new trees powercreep everyone that much

[scenic drift]

people were idiots, he was never op, just tanky

[radiant raptor]

arby is weak because the dog doesnt kill bosses by itself

[scenic drift]

well, he was op during bleed bug

[frosty herald]

also i mightve been a dumb ass and only used crusher without knowing the single target loop

[carmine falcon]

real!

[radiant raptor]

i should be able to sic the dog on the twins and just leave

[frosty herald]

i believe maul shield is arbiteses highest damage melee

[sterile stone]

You gotta stop hanging around dorn and his people, these takes you're making is rotting your brain.

[frosty herald]

but i could be wrong

[heady rapids]

far from it

[carmine falcon]

no its arb maul

[heady rapids]

pure dmg probably arb maul

[carmine falcon]

that shit was 2-3 shotting crushers pre health buff and 1 shotting everything

[frosty herald]

i sea

[heady rapids]

it was a 2 shot

[solar gorge]

normal maul is straight up bttr yeah

[oak ice]

And they are still really good. I think the reason why people aren't as crazy as they are before is because of the reworks for the other 3, but they are still like one of the better classes.

[heady rapids]

you can still just

[solar gorge]

it's absurdly strong

[heady rapids]

turn off ogryns

1 impact talent

1 heavy on a crusher and he just stands there

[frosty herald]

ive nly usede crusher on the class so im uninformed

[heady rapids]

same with other ogryns

[carmine falcon]

arb maul is a very fun weapon

[radiant raptor]

what is crusher's single target again

[solar gorge]

arbi maul is braindead it's not even funny

[radiant raptor]

was it just PA spam

[deft badge]

Ngl true bring dog bleed splosion back then the class will be balanced

[carmine falcon]

PA into light 1 or pa spam

[heady rapids]

i remember there being an overhead heavy somewher

idk

[deft badge]

Idk arb feels fun and I get a sallet helmet so I'm happy

[radiant raptor]

arbussy is a terrible class ever since they nerfed bleed

[frosty herald]

i want pauldronless arbites

[sterile stone]

Bro claims he's uninformed and still felt the need to speak like a voice of authority

[frosty herald]

die

[sterile stone]

I'M SICK

[solar gorge]

i liked the novelty brought by the dog but it's a very turn off the game class

[scenic drift]

ASM is wery weak, buff pls

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1385180267148476466/1435176230558371901/hmm_funny_bonk.mp4

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/haram-heisenberg-gif-20680378

[frosty herald]

i believe makes my sentence put into question before it is answered

[deft badge]

Im ngl petting the dog is a huge selling point to me

[frosty herald]

this is 5d chess on how to argue without being at fault

[gaunt roost]

what single target loop

the strikedown one?

[radiant raptor]

11 seconds?

disgusting

[carmine lance]

huh????

[frosty herald]

heavy light

[sterile stone]

I'm just holding out to see if the admech are actually gonne be the next class.

[scenic drift]

I mean that's just buffs

[wraith halo]

@carmine lance

[sterile stone]

Guess we'll find out in 6 days

[radiant raptor]

i really hope its hive ganger

because i want to see people rage

[drifting wolf]

always bet on hive ganger

[radiant raptor]

(me included)

[deft badge]

I want admech but because I want it I don't expect it

[gaunt roost]

new class will be mutant

[solar gorge]

ganger is lame af please god no

[carmine lance]

LMAO

[frosty herald]

imagine if fatshark collabs with saber interactive to drop techmarine and techpriest on the same day

[radiant raptor]

a REAL class doesn't play the game at all

[scenic drift]

also if I didn't use bonk build, it'd be faster, since it wouldn't knock him down

[median steeple]

Gangers are boring outside of necromunda

[deft badge]

Ganger is the lamest possible flavor option i feel

[carmine falcon]

new class is gonna be something people didnt expect and they'll be big mad

[sterile stone]

I meeeeeeean.

[deft badge]

Literally this

[solar gorge]

but yeah dw, if techpriest drops it will play the game 4 u

[radiant raptor]

please. administratum clerk please

[carmine lance]

I really just hope it's not a hive ganger

[sterile stone]

Wouldn't it be more of a admech combat role?

[scenic drift]

might also cut one hit off the ttk, idk, I enjoy bonk too much

[solar gorge]

like abri on steroid

[gaunt roost]

yea just loose cannon but ahain

[carmine falcon]

[gaunt roost]

again

[frosty herald]

surely there wont be another joint crossover to advertise a class

[sterile stone]

I mean I could also just be fucking wrong.

[heady rapids]

new class is a space marine

[sterile stone]

Like FS could surprise us and be like

HEY FUCKERS

TRAITOR CULTIST

[gaunt roost]

primarch

[frosty herald]

but games workshop did a big push for arbites related content

[radiant raptor]

add ganger because i want a stimm spam build

[frosty herald]

so this couldve been part of that

[radiant raptor]

vet gets grenades, i get stimms

[wraith halo]

Astra militarum armies field enginseers

[deft badge]

Hive gangers literally get pressganged into the guard, I feel like they'd be vets in the instance of an invasion

[radiant raptor]

new class: genestealer hybrid

[wraith halo]

So it's possible for a tech priest

[deft badge]

Especially cause we literally see no living gangs ever

[wraith halo]

Skitarii are the infantry of the admech itself

[carmine lance]

that'd be interesting lol

[sterile stone]

Honest to god, I'd die of happiness if we got a guardsman combat engie.

[frosty herald]

new class

[gaunt roost]

aren’t there even ganger origin options in character creation

[frosty herald]

ruststalker

[radiant raptor]

blood for the four armed emperor

[carmine lance]

maybe we get a skitarii alpha vanguard lmao

[radiant raptor]

the new class will just be female ogryn

[deft badge]

Yes, my vet is a hive ganger conscript by background

[gaunt roost]

puttin’ up a sentry!

[carmine falcon]

the new class is just a meta youtuber who uploads meta content and the voicelines are complaining about power creep

[sterile stone]

Need a dispenser here!

[radiant raptor]

wait i would love to play tannre

[wraith halo]

Sentry, shock wall, and mines blitz

[solar gorge]

new class should be a kin from the LoV called Bar'Dinn

[heady rapids]

new class is two arbites

[carmine falcon]

uses ult
yells NERF PSYKER

[radiant raptor]

cinema

[heady rapids]

with two dogs

[deft badge]

New class, you can play as Arb's dog

[gaunt roost]

sentry, platform gun, and shredder drones

[sterile stone]

All jokes aside, I can't see how they'd add a support focused class without it completely breaking game balance.

[radiant raptor]

new class will just be the absence of a player

[frosty herald]

actually

[solar gorge]

new class will be an option next to find match to auto complete the mission for u

[gaunt roost]

h40 zealot

[heady rapids]

so zealot

[frosty herald]

techmarine in sm2 will be able to use turrets

[sterile stone]

Hey I can't finish my havoc 40

[carmine falcon]

new class is just a template that lets u use any blitz and any keystone from any class

[sterile stone]

Double it and pass it on to the next team

[deft badge]

This is the channel where all the puppy girls end up ig

[carmine falcon]

the ultimate le build variety

[heady rapids]

I meant that it lunges and applies bleed but sure go ahead

[sterile stone]

Fucking OG recruit from seige as a darktide character

[radiant raptor]

new class, stormvermin

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/coal-wojak-cold-coal-mine-gif-10545465178443960870

[gaunt roost]

i miss him 😔

[deft badge]

Ig we can count THammer as the shock explosion

[sterile stone]

We still have recruit rush in our hearts

[radiant raptor]

would thammer be good if arby had it?

[deft badge]

Recruit was such a good character

[radiant raptor]

im not thinking about it, you tell me

[frosty herald]

very

[frosty herald]

arbites can supercharge thammer with impact

[heady rapids]

probably with the attack speed bug

otherwise fuck no

[deft badge]

Recruit was on god better than like half of sieges cast

[gaunt roost]

he’s currently stronger than half the cast he’s a decently common pick in pro

[solar gorge]

they should add the UNGOC to seige, then maybe it would be a good game

[sterile stone]

Yeah but that's the new recruits

[gaunt roost]

just bc he can bring 2 secondary gadgets

[sterile stone]

Thems ain't the OGs

[wraith halo]

Og recruit

You ran it to throw

That was it

[sterile stone]

Actually....

[wraith halo]

Or to ego someone

[deft badge]

I miss when siege felt grounded

[gaunt roost]

5 m870 crack rush

[wraith halo]

Ace with recruit

[sterile stone]

Recruit rushing has won some tournies

[sullen forge]

Honestly I can argue

[radiant raptor]

the new class will have the ability to perfectly mimic one of your three teammates, and you can switch at any time

[sullen forge]

that unironic rare recruit mains

[deft badge]

I really miss og og siege before they changed hereford base and got rid of favela

[sullen forge]

were really fucking scary

you barely ever witnessed them

but holy shit

[wraith halo]

Because they were just pure aimers

[sullen forge]

they were SCARY

[deft badge]

Yeah recruit had 0 gimmicks

[sterile stone]

Bro didn't rely on fancy gadgets

[gaunt roost]

nah all the aimers were on ash or jager

[wraith halo]

They didn't care about mechanics just being faster and more accurate than you

[sullen forge]

Their 2 equipments came in clutch sometimes

[deft badge]

Nah

Ash and Jager players were people who thought they could aim

[wraith halo]

In my experience it was ela and zo

[frosty herald]

https://www.ign.com/articles/inside-dantes-purgatorio-the-cancelled-sequel-to-eas-dantes-inferno

[sterile stone]

Jager lost that crown when they got rid of his acog

[frosty herald]

we couldve had peak

[wraith halo]

Being good at zo was hard AF but she had better utility than ash in most cases

[sterile stone]

Zo is the one who could stand back up after being downed right?

[wraith halo]

Yeahg

[sterile stone]

Yeah

[wraith halo]

She has a stupid busted weapon

[sterile stone]

They gutted that from her

[deft badge]

Tbh

[wraith halo]

And 4 gl shots

2 impact 2 concussive

[deft badge]

I simply played Fuze and Twitch for the fastest TTK guns

And Doc because roaming Doc was fun

[wraith halo]

Oh yeah ace got fuses gun

The ak

[sterile stone]

The average fuze player sticking a grenade charge on the wall

[wraith halo]

And he was really stupid

[sterile stone]

Killing everyone in the opposite room

[deft badge]

That blessed weapon

[sterile stone]

Including the hostage

[wraith halo]

Melusi

[sterile stone]

[deft badge]

I was a good Fuze tbh

[wraith halo]

Had lesions gun

Lesions gun was great