zealot-class

[runic grotto]

All of them are really good

[sterile basalt]

What are u comparing them to

And in what configs

[umbral lily]

Im runnin a more melee focused build, relyin on fire nade and fury/bene. I had used a few points to grab Unfaltering, cause i main relic blade

[runic grotto]

idk, what do you wanna compare them to

[heady rapids]

i dont think anything can compete with scout's m1k levels of burst

[umbral lily]

But i dont know if i should lock in on bp to go full fury, or do marty

[sterile basalt]

With or without hipster

[empty python]

MAN, Agripana Inf Autogun + Deathspitter + Against All Odds is honestly so dang goated, it can cleaves through Scab Bruisers and 21st groaners in H40, while Vraks the same cannot.

Very ammo-efficient

[drifting wolf]

isn't the crossbow insanely good for utility

[heady rapids]

so what are we gonna ignore ocs now to make our point look better

nuh uh buddy

[sterile basalt]

If we include OCs then ur facing off exe lok1

[heady rapids]

no access to cryo status

[runic grotto]

scout weapons are insanely versatile + he is mobile so obviosly that costs him. His weapons are always worse than another class trying to focus on a specific job

[heady rapids]

weakspot dependant

[runic grotto]

But saying they are bad is just insane

[sterile basalt]

Yea that we can agree on

[heady rapids]

he still is the king of burst dps

[runic grotto]

nah

[heady rapids]

yah

[runic grotto]

Driller has fucking sludge blast

[sterile basalt]

They’re not as good as their counterparts on other classes for the mobility that scout gets

[heady rapids]

oh

that is true tbh

[runic grotto]

You can't compete with this piece of shit

[sterile basalt]

Sludge blast is so funny

[long oasis]

if you want to run marty remember that to get the full effect you need to also run 2 wound curios

[heady rapids]

im a proud sludge blast user

but you have access to the strongest ste on scout

[runic grotto]

But for what he lacks in raw dps he makes up for in insane utility and mobility

[long oasis]

which is fine but youre giving up 40% health / 32% toughness

[runic grotto]

and he's still goated at clearing hordes and single target

[heady rapids]

and you get insane dmg buffs/debuffs stacking with epc, cryo and that one m1k oc

[umbral lily]

What ability would be best with bp then? Should i rock fury to have bp on demand? Or rock chorus for a emergency button?

[sterile basalt]

Who even runs MFD on m1k

[long oasis]

fury is more fun

[heady rapids]

i do on dreadnoughts lol

[sterile basalt]

That’s like their only purpose lol

[carmine falcon]

sludge blast my beloved

[deft badge]

Driller my beloved

[carmine falcon]

is mfd the one that weaknes big baddies

i love it its so goofy

[sterile basalt]

There’s no good case to take MFD over the other OCs besides dreadnought

[runic grotto]

The easiest meta pick for scout would be m1k and nishanka

[carmine falcon]

i love specialized shit that only works for niche things but does so much impact

[sterile basalt]

Make focus shot apply big debuff but do no damage and cost more

[runic grotto]

You can make some tiny adjustments

But that shit is obvious meta

[heady rapids]

it still has good dps while buffing your whole team's damage output

[runic grotto]

Nothing compares

[umbral lily]

gotchu, so should i go for enduring faith or scourge

[heady rapids]

cause it's still base m1k lol

[heady rapids]

it's barely niche

[carmine falcon]

i liked taking it on dreadies and just empowering my engi and gunner

[heady rapids]

it's only niche in a sense that it has to compete with other ocs

base m1k is already extremely strong

[runic grotto]

base m1k is insanely powercrept

[frosty herald]

m1k is boring

i wanna fire fast

[runic grotto]

wdym

[heady rapids]

just play hipster

[frosty herald]

i want to shoot hot plasma

[sterile basalt]

Take hipster and lose all ur core breakpoints

[runic grotto]

play hipster with single target

[carmine falcon]

the duality of man

[runic grotto]

what is the duality

[heady rapids]

we said the same thing

[runic grotto]

We said the exact same thing

[carmine falcon]

powercrept means it got outshined

[runic grotto]

it does?

[heady rapids]

does it

[carmine falcon]

unless my englando no working anymore

[heady rapids]

let's zee

[runic grotto]

idk

[sterile basalt]

U 2 might be operating on the same brain cell

[carmine falcon]

[sterile basalt]

Just 1 potato + couple wires + 1 singular brain cell

[runic grotto]

@heady rapids don't tell them

[heady rapids]

maybe

just maybe

[long oasis]

powercrept means other things were added taht are stronger

[carmine falcon]

powercrept implies it got power.......crept

[runic grotto]

ok

sry

[heady rapids]

yeah you're probably wrong her e but it doesnt matter cause im right

[frosty herald]

it outshines all other base weapons in the game

[runic grotto]

It just got so overbuffed it's insanely powerful now

[heady rapids]

well i mean

[long oasis]

is cryo cannon still good I lieked using that when I played

[heady rapids]

m1k still has to compete with aise

it's op

[frosty herald]

friendly fire on m1k is genuinely stupid

[heady rapids]

and with tef

[frosty herald]

path did 70% of my health through shield

[sterile basalt]

AISE is far easier to use but doesn’t kill priority targets as fast as m1k just 1-2 shots them

[runic grotto]

Only 70%

Rookie numbers

[drifting wolf]

it's still solid i think, they gave it a sticky flames equivalent OC if you want a frozen flamer ig

[heady rapids]

it has less burst but it's a literal beam

[sterile basalt]

My guy I wasn’t playing scout with u

[carmine falcon]

we should play drg sometime instead of fighting over toy guns my fellow clankers

[sterile basalt]

I played engineer

[heady rapids]

with gk2 you also have access to infinite grunt clear with electro reload

[runic grotto]

It's still the best pick

[frosty herald]

hmmm

i forget who i played drg with exactly

[heady rapids]

if you're willing to play that shit

[carmine falcon]

drg run with randomizer drink

[sterile basalt]

I don’t even run the high FF setups for engineer

[heady rapids]

reloading after a couple shots is sleep inducing

[sterile basalt]

If I wanted to blow u up I’d just run PCC

[runic grotto]

cryo cannon means you can't die from melee enemies ever and always are at 100% health

[frosty herald]

ice shards cryo cannon is stupid

[misty nova]

I still have to move my progress from eksbawks to steam

[carmine falcon]

cryo + wave cooker is one of the most fun setups and i dont care how viable vs not viable it is

[misty nova]

[carmine falcon]

i run around freeze things and pop them up

[sterile basalt]

It’s pretty viable

[runic grotto]

snowball or spear are still better

[heady rapids]

it's op unless you run temp shock

[runic grotto]

but shards are nice

[misty nova]

(it's not happening any time soon)

[sterile basalt]

Snowball is mactera wipe

[runic grotto]

If you run temp shock I will hang you

[heady rapids]

then you're shooting yourself in the foot

[misty nova]

And at the same time I really don't want to grind it all back

[runic grotto]

The worst setup in the game

[heady rapids]

@sterile basalt can you drop ep5&6 already i beg

[carmine falcon]

i think i had it before and blade hanged me and gave me a better setup

[sterile basalt]

What

[heady rapids]

it was supposed to drop literally right now

[carmine falcon]

we had a convo about how nothing matters cause everything works

[heady rapids]

a minute ago

[sterile basalt]

Do I look like AdHoc to u

[heady rapids]

where is my update

[long oasis]

yea

[misty nova]

and yeah today will be a long day at work

[heady rapids]

WHERE'S THE UPDATE PATH

[sterile basalt]

Your balls will be crushed under the weight of your sins

[runic grotto]

How to murder the entire build and become absolutely useless without gaining anything in return. Pick cryo cannon + wave cooker with exothermic

[misty nova]

I won't be interacting with dispatch 5 and 6 any time soon

[heady rapids]

yeah cause temp shock is very fun

it's good on fire

but on cryo

[carmine falcon]

she be dispatching on my episode tell i telltale

[heady rapids]

you're trading 3x damage for

uh

200?

[runic grotto]

yes

[heady rapids]

and then you cant refreeze them for a while

you lose single target dmg completely

[sterile basalt]

Temp shock scales worse the higher hp enemies have

For fire it’s ok

[runic grotto]

I could do like a 1000 damage after freezing an enemy. Or I could unfreeze it and do 200 just to freeze it again just to do 200 more

wow

[carmine falcon]

ok drg game this weekend

[long oasis]

I lost my balls in the great war

[heady rapids]

i might play drg

[carmine falcon]

i realized i yap with all of u but i rarely play anything with you fellas outside sm2

[runic grotto]

unironically

call me

[heady rapids]

does anyone have

more pl;ayers set up

[misty nova]

L + Ratio + Diffusing Ray + Big Lenses Wave Cooker

[runic grotto]

I still have my setup

[carmine falcon]

not me my mods are fucked

[heady rapids]

i unfucked my mods recently

[sterile basalt]

I don’t play with mods on DRG

[runic grotto]

We can play with more players on h6x2 or something

[heady rapids]

when i played 1 game with knify

[heady rapids]

ever heard of mint

[carmine falcon]

i just run qol

[runic grotto]

You don't need anything

[heady rapids]

you will have an even better experience with mint tbh

cause the leading fork is in chinese

[runic grotto]

please use mint

if you are still using the official modding support

[heady rapids]

https://github.com/iriscats/mintcat/releases/tag/v0.4.6

[runic grotto]

idk even know

it's awful

[carmine falcon]

glory to the ccp

[heady rapids]

glory to the ccp

[runic grotto]

The worst modding support to ever exist in any game I have ever seen

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/xi-wazzup-beijng-china-xi-jinping-gif-14279522050910085087

[sterile basalt]

I’ve only been to Beijing once and the most conclusive thing I can say is that actual Beijing cuisine is not good

[runic grotto]

China #1

[frosty herald]

How is peking duck

[drifting wolf]

is there a mod that gives back the mk2 gunner armor's neckguard when you pair it with the corporate marine helmet

[frosty herald]

This is odly specific

[carmine falcon]

ive never eaten proper chinese
i doubt the chinese shops around here actually employ chinese cooks

[heady rapids]

im restarting steam over and over again oml

whjerere is my uipdate

[sterile basalt]

Have u never had Peking duck before

[carmine falcon]

yakzua 7 reference

[frosty herald]

Nope

[long oasis]

chinese food is a state of mind

[frosty herald]

I only saw ichiban eat it

[deft badge]

The Chinese places near me are all staffed by what I have to assume are people of Chinese descent but I haven't asked.

[long oasis]

even an American can do it

[signal spoke]

https://fxtwitter.com/emperor_eye777/status/1985576642723627063?t=s_mldPlGLgYFd77Tmh5H2w&s=19

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😛It is important to maintain a proper fluid balance in the body for healthy skin and heatstroke prevention.🚰

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[drifting wolf]

i'm still deeply upset they made that change like 2 years ago and it was never brought up again

i need my dark brooding edgelord gunner back

[sterile basalt]

It’s good but the dish depends greatly on technique

[frosty herald]

I would be looking kinda weird if a chinese place doesnt have asian chefs

[sterile basalt]

If the duck skin isn’t properly crispy then it’s fully chalked

[frosty herald]

Is it like the pigs they roast in china with the crunchy skin

[deft badge]

Yk I still remember this mf on the actual textbook

Do kids still get issued the white Pharoah

[sterile basalt]

Uh
I’m not fully sure

I’m from Shanghai

We don’t do much roast around there

[carmine falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mldcDidGJCg

chinese rap goes hard???

[frosty herald]

Oh neat

[sterile basalt]

Kinda

[carmine falcon]

this is a banger and i dont need to understand anything

[sterile basalt]

Chinese language is not great for rapping tho

[frosty herald]

Chinese language is weird to me

With how its spoken

[sterile basalt]

It’s not built for rapping

[long oasis]

cantonese yes mandarin no

[carmine falcon]

i have a confession i used to hate how chinese sounded and found it grating until i watched bunch of wuxia movies and then my brain got used to it

[sullen forge]

Back on the interwebs by unpopular demand

[frosty herald]

Idunno how to describe it

[heady rapids]

still no update in dispatch

[sterile basalt]

Listen to enough Chinese cursing words and you’ll get around on it

[sullen forge]

(I set the router up)

[heady rapids]

killing myself

[frosty herald]

But there being very sudden tonal shifts in words?

And letter being emphasized within a word

[sterile basalt]

Uh

[carmine falcon]

they make a lot of noises no other language makes

but it grown on me

[sterile basalt]

Are you talking about the 4 tones

[frosty herald]

I think

Its hard to describe

Japanese and korean is quite fluent

[long oasis]

thats literally spanish

[carmine falcon]

i speak arabic so i cant insult another langauge for having funny noises

[frosty herald]

But chinese is quite crass

[carmine falcon]

arabic must be a nightmare to anyone who's not native

[frosty herald]

Almhaddulah

[carmine falcon]

bro butchered it

[long oasis]

can you read arabic

[carmine falcon]

of course

its my language

[long oasis]

oh yea youre from turkey right

[deft badge]

Arabic is really fun as a non native, not that I get a lot of it. Mainly what my muslim friends speak.

[carmine falcon]

no im not

[long oasis]

oh

[carmine falcon]

turks speak turkish

not arabic

[long oasis]

where are you from again

[sterile basalt]

Ur gonna have to find examples idk wat ur referring to

[long oasis]

why did they name themselves after the bird

[carmine falcon]

syria

[frosty herald]

Cyber is a very big fan of assad

[heady rapids]

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSyfnLTp2/

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-gif-2019574273456771977

[carmine falcon]

yeah haha can someone tell me where he lives i wanna meate him and roast his balls

[heady rapids]

right here in moscow LMAO

[long oasis]

assad like hasan piker?

[frosty herald]

Bashar al assad

Dictator and human rights activist

[long oasis]

how is he both

[heady rapids]

@sterile basalt people are saying that it comes out in 45m

[sterile basalt]

Cool

I’m still outside

[frosty herald]

Im being extremely ironic lol

[long oasis]

草泥马

[frosty herald]

His brother is even worse btw

[sterile basalt]

This is too low level

[long oasis]

tmdsbcnmlgb

[opaque coyote]

small

[sterile basalt]

Better

[opaque coyote]

pink

[carmine falcon]

brother blade can you do me a favor and turn him to dust

test test

[heady rapids]

LMAO HAHAHAHA

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-nuke-arasaka-tower-gif-8573022133793917547

me going into moscow city

[carmine falcon]

give me 5 minutes with assad

in a room

[sterile basalt]

@frosty herald @carmine falcon I can fully understand what this is saying btw

[frosty herald]

Pro assad people when they meet people who lived under assad

[sterile basalt]

[heady rapids]

the only phrase in chinese i know is

[frosty herald]

This is not mutually exclusive to assad

[heady rapids]

cnm

[long oasis]

78物业 someone said this to me once and I still have no idea what it means

[heady rapids]

means cool nice man

[carmine falcon]

pro assad people are lucky they're not getting assaded that's all what im gonna say

[heady rapids]

CNM = Cool Nice Man

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[frosty herald]

Same shit as people adoring stalin or lenin

[carmine falcon]

its random letters wot da hyll

[sterile basalt]

I can dm its meaning

[heady rapids]

the Chinese love using numbers and abbreviations online

88 means bye bye

[deft badge]

Someone should inform them what else it means

[frosty herald]

How bad are the chinese reviews darktide gets

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/1450-中共-中國-19-武漢-gif-22384529

[sterile basalt]

Idk I don’t check

[heady rapids]

dont mind my friend over here is still learning Chinese

[sterile basalt]

yyds = effectively equal to GOAT

[opaque coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/чел-говорит-с-обезьяной-обезьяна-gif-15323542369015615220

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-cat-chinese-cat-zoom-in-white-chinese-cat-gif-24123212

[heady rapids]

i love the cultural exchanges in this chat sm

[frosty herald]

Waitress stunned as white boy speaks fluent cantonese

[heady rapids]

LMAO

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-league-of-ledgends-viktor-machine-herald-whatever-go-my-scarab-gif-5039647328700926032

[carmine lance]

I would like to report I am thoroughly enraptured by pathologic

I am enjoying this very strange world

[heady rapids]

@plush estuary

@sterile basalt @long oasis @carmine falcon writing you down for weekend drg

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-voiceacting-acting-car-gif-12653391518315162312

[carmine falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-gif-20413149

[sterile basalt]

I got assignments

And DT guide to work on

[heady rapids]

rip

[sterile basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-crying-girl-tears-of-joy-clapping-danny-devito-gif-12766761978490409957

[frosty herald]

Me toooooo

Imagine class lock in drg lmao

[heady rapids]

there is class lock

and it's for losers lmao

[frosty herald]

Really????

[heady rapids]

yheah

optional setting

[sterile basalt]

Yea u can set party to no repeated classes

[heady rapids]

the illusion of teamwork.......

[frosty herald]

I can only imagine joyless cornballs turning it on

[carmine falcon]

class lock 💀

[long oasis]

Currently being boiled alive in the depths of hell

[heady rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

[gaunt roost]

is the new darius skin out too

[median steeple]

the mecha one? or was there a another skin he's getting I missed

because it's "out"

you can't buy it rn idk why

nvm my client was bugged

rage

[visual stream]

GOD BLESS OUR GLORIOUS SOCIALIST STATE MAMDANISTAN

[deft badge]

Did they ever make demacian vice darius

[median steeple]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G49OfLQX0AAQDZA.gif

no

[median steeple]

I just want Darius' DnD skin from LoR

lmfao

[deft badge]

Figures

I dont even play league anymore but id reinstall for this skin

The demacian vice line(all 2 skins) was cool

Iirc sold poorly tho

[median steeple]

Riot changed how they do skins now so it might come back when they decide that another champ fits it

they started looking at champs who haven't gotten a skin yet in a while

doesn't stop the mega popular ones from getting a billion

[deft badge]

Forgive my ignorance here but aren't they too busy selling gooner skins for new age champs?

[median steeple]

new champs don't get SHIT unless it's like

Nilah or Zeri

Smolder still has 1 skin outside of base

[deft badge]

Tbh I just remember sera coming out and immediately having some insane rarity skin

[visual stream]

Sex sells but when are they gonna realize that cool ass monsters sell too

[visual stream]

They already have the gooner fanbase by the balls

It's time to diversify your portfolio, Riot

[median steeple]

They know it does since Asol when he became playable started selling like hotcakes

[frosty herald]

500 big ones for a skin

[median steeple]

it's just that gooners buy more

[deft badge]

Genuinely when was the last monster champ?

[median steeple]

also China loves that shit

[visual stream]

Skarner rework probably

[median steeple]

I wouldn't count reworks

[deft badge]

Chinese players receiving a 9000th Lee Sin Skin

[visual stream]

Me neither but I think it's been a lot longer before that LMAO

[median steeple]

but Naafiri? I could be wrong if Bel'veth came out after her

[visual stream]

For an actual release

[deft badge]

Bel definitely isnt imo

Naafiri ig is

[visual stream]

Oh true we got Naafiri, that was cool

Bel'veth is technically a monster champ, I would classify it as that
The funny thing is that her gooner appeal is literally an in-character falsehood that's meant to lower the guard of those in her presence

Kind of ironic so I fw it

[median steeple]

I think they did her design well enough

I would count Zaahen since he's a darkin but like

they fucked him up

[deft badge]

Outlast trials fat update but no patch notes

[deft badge]

Is he new?

Like new new?

Im ngl I do not like a lot of the Darkin past Rhaast

[carmine lance]

I have started playing pathologic classic hd, and man, already I find myself enraptured lol

[median steeple]

he's the next champ

[deft badge]

Lemme Google

He looks kinda cool ngl?

[carmine lance]

Also, I was not expecting the music to the opening of pathologic to actually go kinda hard https://youtu.be/6W113NVDJz0?si=cL403PwdLfOLPEKH

[heady rapids]

1.5 gb

[deft badge]

It forced me to uninstall something for it so I assumed it was bigger ngl

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/HeK36g92zjo?si=epzkSGc6JG_CKf5X

[heady rapids]

it rewrites files so

[frosty herald]

yo pierdo de KURWA

[deft badge]

Fucks sake

[heady rapids]

it has to download, unpack and rewrite

[deft badge]

Oh nvm

[heady rapids]

so a lot more storage is needed

[deft badge]

I saw this

[carmine lance]

I have indeed watched mandy's video on pathologic, how I even know about it

[median steeple]

His ascended form on the left and him being a darkin in a petricite body on the right

[deft badge]

Nvm me then, I'm a bastard liar

[carmine lance]

but I don't remember any details of story which is good

I don't want to be spoiled

[heady rapids]

1.5gb is pretty chunky

[deft badge]

I'm drastically less interested now tbh

[heady rapids]

there's leaks of new shit

[median steeple]

yeah I hope they can change it since the body wasn't a human and was a statue

so it can look like his older form

or a diff one

I just don't like his current one

[deft badge]

It looks like a lot of stuff revolving around invasions

Like QoL stuff

[deft badge]

I just want like

Demons™

Its why I don't like Naafiri

[heady rapids]

@deft badge how do i filter by tags on reddit

[deft badge]

I am honestly so insulted that you think I use reddit at all let alone enough to know how to do that

[heady rapids]

fml

[deft badge]

Brb killing myself, mistaken for a redditor

[heady rapids]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/OutlastTrials/comments/1oomdjb/season_5/

[deft badge]

Let's see

I also grinded enough murkoff bucks to buy a catalog

[glossy nimbus]

Tongs is a redditor? Makes sense honestly.

[wraith halo]

If you mean flairs click the subreddit, then search within the subreddit and you should see all the tags it has available to search by

[heady rapids]

new prime asset is a russian woman that speaks french

[deft badge]

Oh?

[heady rapids]

this is gonna be fun

[deft badge]

When did they add invasions btw?

[heady rapids]

i saw the post the other day but i have trouble finding it now

[heady rapids]

like last month

[heady rapids]

ty

[deft badge]

Alright ty

I was regretting not getting into it sooner

But I also didnt cause no pvp

I love hitting invaders in the face with a brick and watching them scuttle away

[wraith halo]

Gambit invasion??

Gonna deny everyone's motes?

[deft badge]

Gambit was the one gamemode I liked in D2 im ngl

Felt unique

[wraith halo]

Invader on the field

Imagine dt Gambit

[heady rapids]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/OutlastTrials/comments/1omm5ns/what_we_know_about_the_new_upcoming_prime_asset/

[wraith halo]

2 teams compete against each other to see who can kill shit fastest

Except no pvp

[acoustic dune]

Chat

Chat

I like to drink water

What do

[wraith halo]

Drink it. All of it.

[median steeple]

Oh yeah shyvanas VGU is being worked on again and they're making her buff finally

[radiant raptor]

the ocean

[heady rapids]

@visual stream https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1395244724193067070/1433999878761218098/a624fc0ea1744dbbb3338a3f88489d38.mov?ex=690caab5&is=690b5935&hm=6d4cc035d2e19c256f861a5210171d28a94a24a41bdc2362325b3f7b0ccbef2b&

[median steeple]

closest thing we have to what she'll look like

[deft badge]

Nothing I want less than Shyv to be incentivized to be played tbh

I love Jgs soloing dragons after one clear!

[mystic ether]

When I finally got a machine good enough to not tank in frame rate during ads I went nuts eith it

[deft badge]

I just liked going gorilla mode with titan and killing 4 people

[heady rapids]

o

rogue core got a 3gb update

[mystic ether]

I can do it with any class but hunter is my favorite

[deft badge]

I legit only played titan tbh

[frosty herald]

isnt the cannibal lady the family dog in trials?

[mystic ether]

Hands down my favorite class before I slowed down with playing.

[deft badge]

Specifically Striker

[median steeple]

played em all but for high end stuff I was a hunter main

at least raids

played warlock and titan for GMs and stuff

[deft badge]

I am not a pve content person tbh

Not unless it's like DOOM

[mystic ether]

Hunter in gm not too bad at least not when I was part of my clan's gm groups

Can't deny the then differences in effort for warlock and titan with warlock just already being great at every step

[carmine lance]

what game are y'all talking about lol

d2?

[mystic ether]

Dostonee

Yeh

[carmine lance]

I admit to being a hunter main lol

[mystic ether]

Hunter good, hunter fun.

[carmine lance]

indeed

I stopped playing the game in 2023 tho

[heady rapids]

its out

holy shit its out

[mystic ether]

I slowed down around season of the deep iirc

[frosty herald]

warlock main here

[carmine lance]

that was the exact season I stopped playing lmao

the rogue lite thing just killed it for me because of how tedious it got

[mystic ether]

I don't even know what the main events were then I was focusing on clearing up older content at the time before getting back to whatever light level mattered. Basically had been on and off for the season prior so I had to do catch up

[carmine lance]

yeah that's fair

I just

[mystic ether]

And I didn't feel like playing warlock to blitz through everything for damn near free so when I just happened to stop I really did just stop. Couldn't afford the game anymore anyway.

[carmine lance]

the fact that the weekly seasonal missions were the same but with a little more tacked on each time

[heady rapids]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mystic ether]

Literally got priced out of Destiny lmao

[carmine lance]

it made it feel like a total chore

and I was forcing myself to play it after a point, and I just thought to myself

"why am I still here, I'm not even sure I'm having fun anymore"

[wraith halo]

Destiny entertained me long enough

[long oasis]

pay to play unfun content

[wraith halo]

Then one day it stopped and I was finished w it

[long oasis]

so you can pay more to replace your powercrept weapons

[mystic ether]

Yeah not everyone is really down for that experience. It's a much more accelerated thing compared to going through pve content for another mmorpg like wow then reaching the end. Plenty of extra stuff to do fr especially by then, but it's not for everyone with how that kind of episodic repetition works.

[carmine lance]

I will say I do look back on when I enjoyed the game very favorably

the lore was what really held me in

[mystic ether]

Depends on what you're talking about here fr. They change a lot about how that worked with a crafting system that got reflected by darktide inevitably.

[wraith halo]

I have nothing but fond memories of my time with d2 now

[deft badge]

Tbh I stopped playing destiny cause I found the pvp to be miserable

[mystic ether]

Darktide literally has a simplified version of the same system.

[deft badge]

I'm not even sure i played for an entire season

[wraith halo]

Embrace healthily putting the game down instead of coping and raging and crying

[carmine lance]

I do find it really funny how back in season of the warmind, it was supposed to be some big reveal that felwinter was actually part of rasputin or something, but I thought that was like, information we already knew

[mystic ether]

I loved the pvp save trials. Genuinely just wasn't able to hang snd the people I played the most with weren't too interested in pvp at that level most days.

It's a clown car of an experience because it's bungie pvp. Honk noses everywhere.

[carmine lance]

yup lmao

[long oasis]

except there are signficantly fewer weapons in darktide so it doesnt become as much of a balancing nightmare. Destiny's (and Warframe) model is to drop a fuckton of new weapons every expansion

[deft badge]

Tbh I fundamentally do not enjoy pvp in Bungie's games

[wraith halo]

Neither do I my 5k hours were almost exclusively pve

[long oasis]

and they gotta be stronger than what the players have or theyll stop playing

[carmine lance]

I admit I did my fair share of pvp

I did it for the weekly bounties

[solar gorge]

i have my new pc soon we can try to play

[median steeple]

HALO and Battlefield fans would tear you to shreds over this statement

[carmine lance]

I'd say I was generally ok at it

[long oasis]

and gotta say Warframe power creep is legendary

[heady rapids]

AYE

oops caps

[long oasis]

2019 we were hitting 10s of thousands now we regularly hit integer overflow

[solar gorge]

with anyone else who's interested in trials is welcome

[carmine lance]

I always kinda thought warframe power creep was just a mecahnic at this point

[solar gorge]

aslong as blade is fine with them

[long oasis]

it is

[heady rapids]

i thought i was fine with anyone

@misty nova wanted to paly

[wraith halo]

10% crucible

[mystic ether]

The balancing nightmare you're speaking of here is a little superfluous at least last I played. They expanded how that works and there have been plenty of examples where older weapons, purple or not were still finding use between multiple seasons at a time. Newcomer passives and the like would also change the scope of viability and at the time, there were like a metric fuckton of ways to play without being a total washout in terms of performance.

[carmine lance]

lmao

[sterile stone]

shweaty

[wraith halo]

Crazy to think that 2466 hours is the amount of time I was actually playing the game

[long oasis]

I stopped playing early D2 so I admit most of what im saying is second hand from other ppl who stopped playing later on

[wraith halo]

Not sitting in orbit or menus

Actually ingame

[sterile stone]

@carmine falcon Russian slav jank doesn't work atm, y'all got open spots in SM2?

[carmine falcon]

at work rn sadly

[sterile stone]

Fire your boss

[carmine falcon]

ill murder him

[carmine lance]

oh yeah, I think I've identified why I tend to care so much about the number of elites I kill during missions

[median steeple]

the mentally ill

[long oasis]

because you play knife zealot

[median steeple]

all of the emblems I rock are the raid ones

[mystic ether]

Oh yeah nah. Early d2 is leagues far away from where it was when I was playing it again from like 2018~2023. Like huge improvements in plenty of regards for gameplay and content even after bloat cuts and the like. I will say though that I know nothing about it after season of the deep and onward. Zero clue. I straight got priced out like I said.

[wraith halo]

474 raids not bad

[median steeple]

Pantheon, Prestiege Levi, and the event before Beyond Light in which you had to do ALL of the raids

in a row

without stopping

[wraith halo]

Pantheon was fun

My day 1 team went through it like a knife through butter

[frosty herald]

lets be honest

[wraith halo]

Then didn't even make it past second enc salvations edge

Day 1

[frosty herald]

there is no reason to return to destiny 2

[median steeple]

my trials WR is ABYSMAL

[frosty herald]

not even renegades will save the game if bungie just refuses to listen to its community

[mystic ether]

That weapon crafting system i mentioned earlier for example shifted the scope of how different weapon archetypes could even exist in tandem with the huge changes they made to make elements and mods work. Much more flexibility.

[wraith halo]

The game has already been in its death throes

[sullen forge]

I mean tbf the latter would tear you to shreds for stating you prefer playing the competition game solely for the PVE gamemode

[wraith halo]

For a while

[carmine lance]

back when I first started playing darktide and was understandably kinda dog at it, my friends who were pulling me into difficulties I wasn't ready for were also getting pissed at me for not pulling my weight and going down constantly

[median steeple]

I don't care about the weapon crafting I don't think it was a big deal

my main issues was the new portal and shit

I HATE it

it looks bad

feels bad

[sterile stone]

@drowsy steppe You haven't experienced true nirvana til you've slouched in your chair sipping chai with a lil extra cinnamon ontop

[frosty herald]

its one thing to trashtalk dstiny 2

[carmine lance]

so in a way it's for me to feel like I'm actually competent and pulling my weight

[frosty herald]

but its far worse to just not care

[wraith halo]

Yeah weapon crafting was really innovative especially at the end when they released like 12 seasonal craft able weapons and 0 of them were worth using over any current weapons

[mystic ether]

That's genuinely not true gotta say.

[wraith halo]

[long oasis]

is it time for destiny3

[wraith halo]

Yeah?

It was for me

Season of the deep

The taken weps

Were all shit

[frosty herald]

bungie couldve started development on destiny 3 instead of marathon

[carmine lance]

no longer in that friend group, and I do have good memories in that group, but I wouldn't be surprised if like subconsciously, I just never got over the fact that half of them were actively refusing to play with me because I wasn't that good yet

[dull iris]

marathon is right there

[wraith halo]

The weapons they released with them

Were shit

[long oasis]

everyones telling me marathons dogshit

[mystic ether]

can't speak enough on it to really know but oh well. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wraith halo]

None of the weapons from deep were worth getting except for the dungeon weps

[dull iris]

it probably is

[frosty herald]

marathon is a money sink for bungie

[wraith halo]

Yeah my biggest problem with d2 was how terrible the weapons got

[frosty herald]

they wont make returns on the amount spent on the game

[long oasis]

money sink but theyre also stealing art

[dull iris]

concord sequel

[carmine lance]

the only marathon I care about

[wraith halo]

They would release 15 weapons and maybe 1 of them was good

[mystic ether]

Eh...like again. This is just not the case but no worries.

[carmine lance]

who up gheritt'ing they white

I love old bungie game lore

[wraith halo]

Idk, I could go on dim and find all the weapons worth crafting at the stage I played in. I'd probably come up with around 30 of the 180+ craft able weapons

[mystic ether]

Sauce was pretty plentiful as they kept expanding how gun passives played with the 2.0 stuff in pretty interesting and effective ways.

[frosty herald]

plaguelands without the plague

[wraith halo]

So many of them just had terrible perk combos

[long oasis]

what does this sentence mean

[wraith halo]

They were too afraid to give them good perks

[mystic ether]

You gotta start being specific at that point im mind.

[wraith halo]

So they just floundered against similar frames w better rolls

[oak ice]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2QxzRmlz-_0?si=6WRKTTQKiadvcB0J

[long oasis]

when will he return

[mystic ether]

Like which perk combos are being brought up here is my question at this rate ig.

[wraith halo]

Uhhh Bungie released a nightfall wave frame grenade launcher that just had objectively worse perks than a weapon 2 years older than it (forbearance)

Basically all nightfall weapons tbh

Any seasonal craftable wep

I'm pulling up blue engram rn

[carmine lance]

only real marathon enjoyers would get it
(it's referring to an infamous lore terminal in the original marathon. It's infamous because it's out of the way, genuinely difficult to get to because it requires genuinely difficult movement tech, and on top of that, the lore is completely disconnected from everything else going on, and is very surreal in what it describes)

[mystic ether]

Wouldn't know at this point since it's not like I can walk back some of these seasons because my experience was literally everyone and their mothers complaining that shit wasn't good then just copying everyone else that figured it out within weeks.

[wraith halo]

10 craftable weps, 2 of them were actually worth using

[mystic ether]

And the d2's loud playerbase is notorious for being uninterested in exploration when it actually has merit

Ah I don't recognize any of those so idk what's up there with that reality.

[sullen forge]

You know being from the sidelines watching both the rise and fall of D2 im kinda glad I never got into it

I played D1

[carmine lance]

you absolutely dodged a bullet

[wraith halo]

You prob remember these market

[sterile stone]

When D2 was a paid game it was fun

[sullen forge]

D1 was really fucking cool

[wraith halo]

Calus mini tool was the only wep worth using from that season

[sullen forge]

Titan main etc

whatever

[wraith halo]

It was actually a bis weapon for a while

[sullen forge]

but like D2 I never bothered getting into

[wraith halo]

Because it was a primary with incandescent

[sterile stone]

Gonna cry cause I still have screen shots from the D1 alpha test cosmodrome on my busted up ps4 HDD

[wraith halo]

All the others were immediately forgotten

That's my issue w crafting

All these weps and nobody uses them

[sullen forge]

Using the starting gun all the way to max rank in beta

[wraith halo]

Especially with powercreep

[sullen forge]

LMAO

that busted up AR/SMG thing

[carmine lance]

fun fact, the only reason I got into destiny 2 is because back in 2019, I got my very first gaming laptop. Up until then, I had to share a computer that was just about as old as me, if not older, with my dad

[wraith halo]

I haven't even gotten INTO the powercreep discussion market

[carmine lance]

so my steam library was very small at the time

[wraith halo]

Where the weapons that were good are now bad

[sullen forge]

Aha... oh....... it hurts

[sterile stone]

I still remember not knowing what Xur's coins were for and Gallajorn coming to shop

[sullen forge]

Pulse weapons I loved

[wraith halo]

Which made everything 10x worse

[carmine lance]

suddenly having the ability to run shit, I was like "holy shit, I want to capitalize on this!!!" and saw that destiny 2 was free

[sterile stone]

And then Xur never sold it ever again

[carmine lance]

so I got it and started playing lol

[mystic ether]

Austringer was nowhere near a slouch revolver. dmt is literally right there and had to be reigned in because everyone used it. Glaives I'll agree with had a rough start. Drang had some fun shenanigans that could allow it in lighter game modes and even gambit. Fireflight had little use from me because I didn't often care for those archetypes. Forgot anything about bump.

[wraith halo]

Like when they released a craftable 2 burst pulse rifle with firefly incan and immediately outpaced other pulse rifle pve ttk

Bump was day 1 root of nightmares carry

I'll give it that

[mystic ether]

Like the argument that DMT was bad is like

[wraith halo]

I'm not factoring in the exotics

[mystic ether]

Flagrantly false.

Ah

[wraith halo]

Also dmt only became craftable in like

Final shape? The end of lightfall

It wasn't for a while

[deft badge]

Im ngl I thought you guys were talking about crafting a different DMT for a second

[wraith halo]

The exotics are whatever

Entirely other discussion

[mystic ether]

Meaningless fr because it was an easy gun to spin rolls for by just clearing presage and doing all those little extras.

[wraith halo]

You underestimate how badly people want that 5/5

Man

D2

[mystic ether]

Look I disregard most of thd d2 playerbase

[carmine lance]

I'm ngl, I was DMT's biggest fan lmao

[wraith halo]

Rest in pieces

💔

[carmine lance]

do not underestimate how much I love tex mechanica shit

[mystic ether]

When i say that they're amongst some of the most intentionally illiterate playerbase I've ever come across i mean that shit

[wraith halo]

Okay use fan fire stub revolver

[gaunt roost]

who

[mystic ether]

D2 average playerbase.

[wraith halo]

Split between clueless dads and overconfident assholes

[gaunt roost]

i’ve never heard anything bad about destiny 2 players tbh

[mystic ether]

Straight up intentionally iliiterate

[carmine lance]

REAL

[wraith halo]

It's mostly the casual playerbase

[carmine lance]

SO FUCKING REAL

[exotic plaza]

bro live under a rock

[gaunt roost]

battlefield

[wraith halo]

When you start doing raids and shit people have brains but are still kind of shitty sometimes

[carmine lance]

you mean last word?

I used last word when I could ngl

[mystic ether]

The hell was that revolver from Crow's original thing?

Hawk something?

[acoustic dune]

@long oasis

[wraith halo]

Hawkmoon

Hawktuah

[mystic ether]

Hawkmoon yeah

[acoustic dune]

bandit has spoken

[long oasis]

W?

[wraith halo]

D2 hawkmoon

[mystic ether]

I miss how it felt after I had a small collection

[long oasis]

I will be waiting

[wraith halo]

The gun that was essentially just a really good duelling handcannon

[carmine lance]

brb switching to phone

[mystic ether]

Fantastic in pvp

[wraith halo]

Especially since no luck in the chamber

[mystic ether]

I liked uh

Hold lemme look at its spread again

[wraith halo]

Conditional finality

[mystic ether]

I had a hawkmoon for pvp primarily that was just goofy.

Mostly for my needs and play but

Delicious is all I gotta say

[sterile stone]

I remember I got the monte carlo from VoG in D1 with the Mythoclast as a secondary drop

[mystic ether]

That hawk screech on the last round 👌

[sterile stone]

Got immedately kicked from the raid group when I told everyone

[mystic ether]

Lmao

[wraith halo]

Random monte carlo drop and vex mytho from atheon

Huge

[mystic ether]

Fuck...I miss it

😭

[sterile stone]

The monte wasn't even that good in D1 tho

The mythoclast sure, but this was post nerf.

[mystic ether]

But I got priced out. Ain't no way I can afford that game no more

[sterile stone]

$200 in dlc, miss me with that shit

[mystic ether]

No point in buying into an mmorpg doing that

[median steeple]

I love warframe but fuck D2 is so much better in a lot of way s

[mystic ether]

For me at least lol

[carmine lance]

I will say it’s a good thing I stopped playing destiny 2

Because there’s so many other games I’ve started playing as a result

[long oasis]

for one having an actual challenge that isnt a 99% damage reduction enemy

[median steeple]

D2 has better gameplay, endgame, and im gonna say it story as well at least the Light and Dark stuff

BUT

[long oasis]

warframe endgame fucking sucks

[median steeple]

Warframe at least isn't run by bungie and is getting free updates that aren't bloating the game

[wraith halo]

D2 was fine when the 100 I paid every year was actually worth it and fun

[long oasis]

id say warframe story is better

[carmine lance]

Agreed

[wraith halo]

100 a year is not that bad esp with how much I played

[median steeple]

after following both for a very long while

[long oasis]

were getting to the good part

[median steeple]

I think destinys was better

I just can't vibe with warframes

idk

[long oasis]

d1 stuff yea

[carmine lance]

I liked destiny’s lore a lot

[long oasis]

but anything after is kinda directionless

[median steeple]

1999 is the only interesting thing for the most part

[long oasis]

I loved reading the grimoires as a kid the world was really cool

[wraith halo]

Wf is objectively the better way to release content it's just its own unique game and you really gotta fw what it puts down

[carmine lance]

Man thinking back on it

[wraith halo]

I do but not for long

[long oasis]

the drifter operator arc was cool

[carmine lance]

I still really miss that old sense of mystery that destiny had

[sterile stone]

The real question I gotta ask is

[carmine lance]

I remember whisper of the worm just leaving me in awe

[sterile stone]

How many times are they gonna kill and revive Alad V

[long oasis]

they left just enough to the imagination for it to be interesting

[sterile stone]

Bro is like a fucking cartoon villain

[long oasis]

but now we know who the big bads are

[wraith halo]

Until he runs out of space money

[median steeple]

I just don't like how WF quests are ordered/presented

[wraith halo]

It's so horrible lmfao

[long oasis]

which ones specifically

like the early ones I get

[wraith halo]

Why do you have to play thru 10 MMO quests to get to new war

[long oasis]

theyre tryna change that nowadays

[median steeple]

from the start to new war

hold on

call

[sterile stone]

Like the last thing I specifically remembered was Alad being consumed by the infestation

[long oasis]

second dream and war within are good

[sterile stone]

And then when I checked back a year or so later

He's fine

Like

???

[wraith halo]

It was more like he made a pact w them

[long oasis]

the stuff before that I cant really defend its kinda trash

[wraith halo]

Mutualist alad v

[long oasis]

then he made a pact with the robots

[wraith halo]

He was using infested tech to improve his corpus tech

[sterile stone]

Bro is the OG wolfer

They can't kill him off permanently

[wraith halo]

He's Warframe taniks

[sterile stone]

He's too vital to the story

[carmine lance]

Ngl I’d love to be able to create something that had similar vibes to the whisper of the worm mission

Just the vibe of it was immaculate

[long oasis]

which taniks are we on

[long oasis]

hes not though

hes been irrelevant for more than 10 years

[sterile stone]

[wraith halo]

https://youtu.be/5M0I8WFhLLA?si=bOGS6gZYGyOmC3jc

[carmine lance]

Yesssssss

[long oasis]

the only reason hes alive is because hes like 3 boss fights

and the star chart is already boring af

[sterile stone]

Can you still do his OG fight to get Valkyr parts?

[wraith halo]

I thought that was ropalolyst

[long oasis]

think so?

zanuka mutalist ropa

[sterile stone]

I was gonna say

[wraith halo]

No ropa is wisp

[sterile stone]

If there's one thing I remember

[frosty herald]

Aight then

[gray ice]

Yuh

[sterile stone]

It's def farming salad man for valk perts

[long oasis]

no boss fights alad are in

[wraith halo]

Oh I see

[sterile stone]

Where you coming from

[gray ice]

I'm a bit like herpes I keep comin back

[wraith halo]

Can't keep the herp down

[long oasis]

is that what were calling him now the herp

[long oasis]

looks like the herp is back in town

[wraith halo]

I like all my teeth in my mouth

[gaunt roost]

what does crusher special even do

[wraith halo]

Crushes

[gray ice]

Hide yo kids hide yo wife the herp is comin

[long oasis]

do furries have teeth I thought they swallowed prey whole like a snake

[wraith halo]

It depends on if the species the person chose typically has em, so yes

[gray ice]

Adds a powered shockwave for CC to the next attack

[mystic ether]

I'd say that some of that was still there but at least during season of the hunt, they were very intentional with finishing off arcs, progressing the story towards what they originally proposed would've been the end and so on. Narratively, I felt it was fine enough for some of the more enigmatic aspects of d2 to be handled.

This perspective is before their writers and artists got canned. I have no idea what happened afterwards and what I wasn't fully versed in what lightfall started to establish.

And then I see Clyde-7 again so...the fuck?

[carmine lance]

The fact that even finding the mission was so obscure initially, with the specific public event and only on weekends. How we find ourselves going deep into Io's interior, the whole vex labyrinth, the hidden portal that ties back into vog and the mythical 7th chest

there's just so much that adds up there

[sterile stone]

So I'm ngl, I might cave and buy arc raiders.

[mystic ether]

If i really want to I'll just hit up Ishtar collective and keep reading.

[carmine lance]

hell yeah

I'm ngl, in highschool

when they gave us all chromebooks

[wraith halo]

Whisper is like garden of salvation where you need a minute to understand why the fuck you're there

[gray ice]

I felt this earlier, but then it seemed like the mystery was there because they didn't quite finish the story and had gaps that couldn't get filled, turns out that was right

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-smile-gif-20576100

[carmine lance]

I would constantly be reading fucking ishtar collective in classes that were boring as hell for me lmao

because it wasn't blocked lmao

[sterile stone]

I dead ass still don't get the story of destiny.

[mystic ether]

There also some solid fuckery from the stain of Activision blizzard that they were really working on eroding away.

[wraith halo]

I like how in the end garden of salvation was just the witness using us to kill off some of his ops

[sterile stone]

Also did they ever reveal who the robot chick was at the end of D1's story?

[wraith halo]

And show us the power of darkness

[carmine lance]

depends on if they're into that or not

[mystic ether]

Idk who you're talking about

The Stranger?

[gray ice]

The stranger is a sister to a character you prolly don't know

[wraith halo]

Yes, she is Elizabeth Bray, and she becomes a vital part of d2s story

[sterile stone]

I think?

[gray ice]

And a daughter to Clovis bray who you prolly also don't know

[carmine lance]

wait the sol collective was an enemy to the witness?

or no wait, it was sol divisive

[sterile stone]

I've heard that man like a lifetime ago.

[mystic ether]

Yeah she gets established on during season of the hunt. The one we experience is from an alternative timeline where darkness totally won.

[sterile stone]

Dead ass my correlation to the destiny story is fragmented.

[wraith halo]

If you remember both bosses are called sol inherent

[carmine lance]

oh shit yeah

[wraith halo]

They were infused with the power of darkness and began to use it to convert others to their ranks (1st enc)

[sterile stone]

I stopped playing post taken king raid in D1, and right when the first raid for D2

[gray ice]

I don't think they were ever going to. Maybe some people were but hooooooooly the management at Bungie was fuckin loopy for a long time there

[wraith halo]

The artifact we got from the one witness statue led us to the other one deep in the BG, to show us how powerful darkness is and how it can be used by other beings

[mystic ether]

Oh no they defintiely did. One of the big ones was Osiris and Uh...

Fuck

What that boy name

[gray ice]

People blamed activision left and right for the shady monetization but then they left activision and it got even shadier

[mystic ether]

Yes and no

[carmine lance]

what's bg agan? or do you literally mean background

I am dogshit with abbreviations lol

[wraith halo]

Black garden

[carmine lance]

doy, my bad

[mystic ether]

D2 absolutely improved when they were able to break away. What would be later revealed through those lay off scandals was another player in me not wanting to bother anymore.

[wraith halo]

Also keep in mind that this was all concurrent w season of the undying, where the newly rediscovered undying mind was invading the solar system from the black garden

So we had to stop them either way

[mystic ether]

Saint-14 that's his name.

[carmine lance]

yeah, undying mind was a big part of it

[gray ice]

Ohhh husbando

[carmine lance]

saint 14 is awesome lol

still one of my favorite characters

[gray ice]

He's dope I liked him as trials vendor

[wraith halo]

Osiris and saint 14 eventually kissed in a cutscene and it was everything

[gray ice]

His announcing when I would wipe trios made me hype

[sterile stone]

Never have I though I woulda seen you type this

What a time to be constructed

[mystic ether]

Yeah. I need to ask some friends that stuck with the deeper lore on that one but deadass they were always meant to be a couple explictly understood as something and it was disrupted by assholes on the writing team that would weed themselves out on chuddery and getting handled for misconduct.

[gray ice]

That's osiris' main squeeze what you mean dawg

That's his husbando

[sterile stone]

[wraith halo]

Rare Bungie W, making osriris and saint 14 very gay for one another

[carmine lance]

https://tenor.com/view/go-woke-go-broke-go-woke-go-broke-destiny-2-destiny-gif-13317291392786271458

[wraith halo]

Warmed my icy heart

[sterile stone]

Wait a damn second...

[mystic ether]

They were always supposed to be as I understand it.

[sterile stone]

This man fell in love with a robot

[gray ice]

Neither are robots

What you talking bout willis

[mystic ether]

The exo and awoken are just humans with extra steps.

[carmine lance]

yeah

[wraith halo]

I think the only fluff that said that came after d1 was released, because saint 14 and Osiris were more legendary figures and not actual people

[gray ice]

Exo might as well just be semi evolved humans

[mystic ether]

And saint 14 is deeply compatible with Osiris upon reading things about them

[wraith halo]

Correction, exos are humans

[mystic ether]

Like unironically dude is a warrior poet.

And deeply romantic as a man.

[wraith halo]

Like literally, they are human in every imaginable sense of the word

[heady rapids]

rc now has 2 female dwarves!!!!

[median steeple]

Awoken are human adjacent

[wraith halo]

They have perform the same actions humans do

[median steeple]

like Neanderthals

[wraith halo]

Or else their minds dissociate from their robotic bodies and they go insane

[carmine lance]

awoken actually had very neat lore

[wraith halo]

Exos have to be as close to human as possible

[carmine lance]

oh yeah whatever happened with toland

[gray ice]

Yea I remember

[carmine lance]

didn't he kinda just

fuck off after a certain point

[gray ice]

That's why the resets happen when the mind can't take it

[carmine lance]

I liked toland

[median steeple]

no he's still around being a prick

[wraith halo]

He won life

[mystic ether]

Yeah there was that and also developments meant to bring that reality of their relationship to a head but that really did just take time to establish

[gray ice]

My man banshee still holding it down after 44 resets

[carmine lance]

oh shit?

[median steeple]

last I checked he's still a mote of darkness, I think he was a big part of heretic no?

[mystic ether]

Still being immaterial and poorly cryptic lol

[median steeple]

being a prick

[carmine lance]

lmao

I mean more like, when is the last time we saw him

I last remember him in like, shadowkeep

maybe season of the hunter i forget if he got involved

[mystic ether]

It's fucked up how lightless exo like banshee is like dead ass experiencing guaranteed dementia at this point.

[median steeple]

yeah he was a part of heresy if be it small

the last season before the newest DLC

[wraith halo]

Died hearing the song he spent his life studying
Doesn't actually die, exists as an immortal traveler of the ascendant plane
Continues his mad research for centuries alone
Tells the guardian he ain't nothing to him, man
Eventually helps the guardians, furthering his research with the woman he led to die

[mystic ether]

Destiny is a pretty dark universe fr.

[wraith halo]

Toland is a chad

[carmine lance]

I remember the song of death thing lol

[mystic ether]

Toland a goofy.

:^)

[carmine lance]

oh my god do I still have the stupid ass edit I made, hold on

[median steeple]

destiny rising is gonna do the great disaster like you playing during it

[mystic ether]

I'm bullshitting, I'm indifferent to him.

[gray ice]

Both of my grandmothers had dementia, needless to say his mannerisms hit diff lol

[carmine lance]

damn I don't think I do

[mystic ether]

Yeah...

Neurodegenerative illnesses are.

Idk how to talk about it

It just fucks me up

Had to review patient charts with that and it was just. "Damn"

[wraith halo]

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

[mystic ether]

Damn

[wraith halo]

I feel that's all you really need to say

Lol

That and anxiety

[mystic ether]

Loss of personhood is already something that bothers me greatly. When it's a disease though like

Fuck

This just can happen in nature.

Bruh

[carmine lance]

I remember at one point, I took the promo poster for one of the destiny 2 dlcs, and fucking slapped a shitty "now with dante from devil may cry" sticker onto it as a joke about toland saying "I will be your virgil"

[wraith halo]

My memory is already super shoddy :^)

[carmine lance]

because haha dante's inferno

[mystic ether]

Idk you like that but I mean it: please educate yourself on it as much as you can if you got s family history of it.

Like please dog

For you n the rest of your folks

Have plans

Fr. Please have plans just in case.

[wraith halo]

No family history of anything tho

[gray ice]

I'm not gonna say you should but you could

[wraith halo]

So I'm probably just a dumbass

[mystic ether]

I mean that's good but it's never worth not knowing. And that kind of thing has many doors to it manifesting.

[exotic plaza]

which one is the good heavy sword again

[mystic ether]

I like the 9 I think?

The coolest looking one basically.

[exotic plaza]

they all look like dogshit

[mystic ether]

With the big hand guard.

[exotic plaza]

💔

[mystic ether]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[wraith halo]

Are there no keys in this game like tarkov

[long oasis]

Vi