i've since swapped out riposte for precog
#zealot-class
carmine lance
gaunt roost
candy cane blade enjoyer
carmine lance
i know the knife doesn't have good horde clear, but this has forced me to get good at not being in bad positions
and I've since swapped it out for the legacy of vraks skin
spare talon
got trapped which means ofc i fully die despite people being next to be because no one unnets or rezzes ever
but im glad i did
because i got to see this in 4k HD
upper parrot
Lol
upper parrot
Smyker got bombed
spare talon
plush estuary
weird
spare talon
its a smyker cowering in a corner smiting 3 poxwalkers
upper parrot
Teach them the ways of the fgs
spare talon
these are the people who complain on reddit and the forums about stuff needing buffs
smite didnt automatically make bursters a non issue
wtf fatshart
upper parrot
They need to buff their player knowledge
plush estuary
buff DN
upper parrot
Lol
upper parrot
Lol be like um you have a melee weapon by the way
upper parrot
The chances of someone being hetero in here is so damn low
What do I get for all the above?
sterile stone
What do I get for all the above?
A blue mini eraser
glossy nimbus
Is havoc just control points in darktide
cuz I'm pretty sure the best chance of survival is by running place to place for a good strong hold
also
why do ppl hate the infantry autogun.
upper parrot
The chances of someone being hetero in here is so damn low
Wherever the wind blows
molten osprey
Could someone help me with Just A Flesh Wound?
sterile stone
Could someone help me with Just A Flesh Wound?
molten osprey
Oh thanks
carmine lance
Could someone help me with Just A Flesh Wound?
oh shit you know deus?
molten osprey
Ya
carmine lance
small world, huh lol
molten osprey
Yeah, lol
spare talon
holy shit i hate smykers
why yes i, a devils claw user, wanted that crusher to stand still indefinitely
glossy nimbus
why yes i, a devils claw user, wanted that crusher to stand still indefinitely
Whats bad about smykers
just play the game vro 🥀
glossy nimbus
I'm gonna make an infinite smite build
spare talon
i run devils claw to have fun parrying
only for a smyker to make not a single enemy able to take a swing
very cool
very awesome
glossy nimbus
i run devils claw to have fun parrying
only for a smyker to make not a single en...
I should give that a go
spare talon
and people wonder why sometimes players rush ahead
glossy nimbus
theyre sigmas? idk
spare talon
idk
maybe sometimes its to get away from the fundraining builds other people insist on using
glossy nimbus
LOL
spare talon
the only morally correct use case for smite is to smite, turn 180, then release, to pull enemies closer to you with the shove
glossy nimbus
THE HUMBLE POX BOMBER
misty nova
the only morally correct use case for smite is to smite, turn 180, then release,...
Charged Strike
Y'all killed it
spare talon
NOOOOOOO
glossy nimbus
Are you paying for spotify
spare talon
no
glossy nimbus
good.
spare talon
stepbrother pays for family so i leech
glossy nimbus
lmfao
spare talon
i get premium and dont pay a dime
spare talon
now just change it from the worst mark in the game
glossy nimbus
what mark
ok how is this mark bad they all look da sam to me..is it attack pattern
placid fiber
ok how is this mark bad they all look da sam to me..is it attack pattern
yes
the mk1 dclaw is probably the worst mark of any weapon in the entire game
I am 99.99% sure it is
saying it is ass is a compliment to it
that's how bad it is
glossy nimbus
I wanna hear it from cole on how its bad
gaunt roost
combat blade doesnt feel as good as everyone says it is am i missing something
glossy nimbus
gotta build around it
gaunt roost
maybe it was not having uncanny on an angry ogryn lvl
tame sluice
now just change it from the worst mark in the game
Mk VII parry combo is so cool with the triple strikedown just for it to all have ass ADMs xd
Mk IV lightspam is genuinely way better at horde clear than it has any right to be
misty nova
ok how is this mark bad they all look da sam to me..is it attack pattern
No reliable Strikedown
No parry go through when break
Uh
Lemme get visual help for the last one
ivory marlin
Chat maybe i shoulda tried learning a more simple string instrument
misty nova
Chat maybe i shoulda tried learning a more simple string instrument
No such thing as simple string instrument
What's your current one?
ivory marlin
What's your current one?
Banjo
zinc talon
or does this mean, it still cleaves up to a point just more goodly betterrer
zinc talon
okay
cuz the OG evis has some dedicated single target attacks in its lineup, and it's kinda hard to tell if it's the swing or the cleave limit
ivory marlin
Banjo
For reference tho ive never learned an instrument out side of recorder when i was 12
So i know next to nothing
zinc talon
like the first light attack is single target only, but light four (light one going the opposite direction
) will cleave like crazy
zinc talon
For reference tho ive never learned an instrument out side of recorder when i wa...
my guitar is old enough to drink, that's how long I've been enjoying it
and I just picked one up one day
ivory marlin
My chord sheet is just numbers and images
zinc talon
you should too, it's soul food in a ton of ways
misty nova
My chord sheet is just numbers and images
Those look simple
zinc talon
makes you smarter too
ivory marlin
Ive always been really interested in learning an instrument
zinc talon
most banjo chords I believe use one maybe two less fingers than guitar would, on account of fewer strings
ivory marlin
So i bought a used banjo and got it repaired
zinc talon
banjos are what, five?
ivory marlin
I have a 5 string yeah
visual stream
Stick with the banjo
visual stream
You clearly are interested in it
zinc talon
dust in the wind was the very first song I sat down and tried to learn day one
and been fingerpickin ever since
zinc talon
what's the white part made of? I've always wondered
it couldn't be paper and I doubt it's plastic
visual stream
raccoon ankle
ivory marlin
It feels like the same stuff drums are made out of
visual stream
Probably some sort of leather if I had to guess
visual stream
Then yeah it should be leather IIRC
zinc talon
oh cool banjos do it too huh
my taylor doesn't have a laquered finish on it at all, because of that very same reason
ivory marlin
If its the other kind they got these big bulky thingys on the back
zinc talon
not having a finish on the wood makes it so much brighter and crisper
I have zero idea how I've not absolutely destroyed it by now
visual stream
Okay nm for drums at least their heads used to be made of animal skin
Now it's plastic typically
ivory marlin
Im excited to start learning
zinc talon
but I am putting what would I even call em, not dents or cracks but like, I'm shaping the wood of the guitar differently from how long I've been tapping and fingerpicking against it in the same way
ivory marlin
Also like terrified cuz its smth new
I want a new case tho
This cork board one is falling apart in almost every way
But ima hold off
Still has some life
visual stream
Also like terrified cuz its smth new
This is such a "duh" recommendation but make it a part of your routine to practice, and at the same time every day that you do
Routines are op
ivory marlin
This cork board one is falling apart in almost every way
And its not like ima be doing gigs any time soon
visual stream
I think a case upgrade would be a good goal to chase in terms of when you are ready to perform for others
ivory marlin
This is such a "duh" recommendation but make it a part of your routine to practi...
Im forcing my guitarist friend to force me to play
visual stream
Set a time for when you want to do it every day
Treat skipping it as if you were letting an infant get shot in the face
Or every other day or whatever
zinc talon
ivory marlin
I think every other day is gonna be better
zinc talon
ivory marlin
Im still prepping to move in january so after the move ill have more time
zinc talon
tried to get a good shot of the wood itself and the lack of finish
ivory marlin
String instruments gotta be the most beautiful instruments
zinc talon
but the luster is kinda flat cuz I haven't cleaned it in forever lol
zinc talon
String instruments gotta be the most beautiful instruments
yeah like some things like the french horn are neat cuz of their plumbing and design
saxophone's got all those lil dealyboppers all over it
but stringed instruments are organic in a way other stuff can't be
and it's not just the wood, it's the curves and shapes on all of em, violin/cello/double bass/guitar/mandolin/banjo and on and on
ivory marlin
glossy nimbus
Hows my devil swordy
south prism
280.......
glossy nimbus
I'm broke
zinc talon
Its a self limitation
upper parrot
Lol
zinc talon
anyways time to take a shower and then these mushroom gummies
I'll send yall a postcard from saturn
whoops didn't mean to reply there
ivory marlin
Lmao
spare talon
ivory marlin
I forgor the shovel is a real melee
misty nova
spare talon
ivory marlin
@visual stream this is the case im looking at
Matches the strap i got for it
But its 150$
upper parrot
Now that was the scream of terror
ivory marlin
@acoustic dune
void bison
void bison
https://tenor.com/view/buster-jam-baby-happy-rattle-microgame-gif-37176470180674...
i also like thnis gif even wi8thout the context
ivory marlin
That looks terrifying
visual stream
<@277075201823604737> this is the case im looking at
OOO that looks nice
Whimsical even
glossy nimbus
@obsidian prairie I take back what I said about Devil Claw Sword
Solid weapon
Shit isn't even 500 yet
its so good
Now it is
viral ravine
only thing it can't do is expedited can opener duty
lunar fable
The last time I used dclaw was when we still had camo vet
viral ravine
add clear supreme, defensive quality excellent, parry chunks everything from captains to ragers
glossy nimbus
Oh yea it fucking deletes ragers yeah
blazing cosmos
Am I hearing that parrying is valid
glossy nimbus
its better than eating shit
glossy nimbus
Literally makes you imagine to crusher overheads
exotic plaza
blazing cosmos
I could have been parrying instead of blocking this whole time
glossy nimbus
she!
blazing cosmos
glossy nimbus
on zealot you can still one shot parry crushers with fotf
..While using devil claw???
spare talon
yes
viral ravine
they buffed the parry to count as blocking for the entire animation of it, including the attack
spare talon
i just did it in the psyk when figuring out what keystone i wanted for it
viral ravine
so you can just free counter if you have the stamina
psyker can do it for free with the peril block talent
spare talon
they buffed the parry to count as blocking for the entire animation of it, inclu...
more specifically, they added .2s of block frames doing the attack
this doesnt exist on duelling sword however
viral ravine
still amazing
better than getting bonked by the other 3 melee dudes swinging in on you
as you get the parry proc
spare talon
the block frames however arent parry frames
viral ravine
true
spare talon
so if something eats your parry when youre trying to parry an overhead
youre going to eat shit
viral ravine
I dont parry overheads unless they are alone
and even then I wont use dclaw on things that can overhead
plush estuary
youre going to eat shit
spare talon
its so awesome
plush estuary
I was doing a H40 solo, parry only
spare talon
I was doing a H40 solo, parry only
all it takes is a group of reapers who never melee you
and just keep shooting point blank
plush estuary
I was running bubble for that
viral ravine
reapers just moon walking while firing
plush estuary
tis why I was psyker
ivory marlin
I was doing a H40 solo, parry only
Ainz i didn’t know you were a masochist
spare talon
I was running bubble for that
yeah but sometimes they just
dont do anything
except shoot
your bubble will just run out as they keep shooting exclusively cuz youre getting no kills
plush estuary
havent got that far yet
plush estuary
dont tell me its a munchkin cat....
spare talon
he looks like he is covered in grease
plush estuary
poor cat if so
ivory marlin
dont tell me its a munchkin cat....
I didn’t buy him from a breeder
plush estuary
thank god
ivory marlin
He is 2
carmine lance
I keep getting compliments on my costume, genuinely such an awesome feeling
ivory marlin
Got him off facebook
visual stream
I keep getting compliments on my costume, genuinely such an awesome feeling
What's your costume?
carmine lance
Going as a kriegsman
ivory marlin
its so sad for the cat
No it was all kinda impulsive but now i just gotta make sure hes ok as possible
carmine lance
I’m in the middle here
misty nova
Solid weapon
spare talon
no one noticed my costume during my shift on halloween
i dressed up as a happy and productive member of society
but no one noticed
carmine lance
Lmao
Actually, so I’m kinda curious now
Is there a degree of complexity where costumes start to be frowned upon in full time jobs
ivory marlin
No it was all kinda impulsive but now i just gotta make sure hes ok as possible
To clarify i bought him off facebook marketplace from a couple who was going through a messy divorce and needed him gone
spare talon
Is there a degree of complexity where costumes start to be frowned upon in full ...
idfk
visual stream
Going as a kriegsman
OO very nice
visual stream
I’m in the middle here
OH YEAH I remember this
ivory marlin
i dressed up as a happy and productive member of society
but no one noticed
I woulda noticed cuz thats not normal cole
carmine lance
Like would my boss be mad at me for showing up with the chainsword lmao
visual stream
The dwarf lady... 
carmine lance
If I’m working at an office firm
carmine lance
The dwarf lady... <:sideeye:1158629891571458079>
Yeee, those 2 were doing gotrek and felix lol
visual stream
I need to see lizardmen cosplays
spare talon
Like would my boss be mad at me for showing up with the chainsword lmao
probably depends on the place
my boss is pretty cool
ivory marlin
@plush estuary i know like they have higher risk of bone problems but is there anything else i can keep an eye out for so his suffering is as minimal as possible
Hes pretty healthy and happy rn
plush estuary
That's good to hear
ivory marlin
Id never let him suffer if im aware of it
He shows signs of past abuse too
Which is horrible
But hes super attached to me
plush estuary
but yes, its higher complication with muscle and bone issues. Plus its a lower quality of life, imagine living with your legs only being knee length
ivory marlin
But hes super attached to me
This guy refuses to do anything if im not next to him
Screams until im near him
carmine lance
I need to see lizardmen cosplays
Kroxigor cosplay would go super hard. Lord kroak too, perhaps
Also had another person ask to take photos with me lmao
I think this is a nice medium of attention
Im already well aware my outfit draws everyone’s attention because it’s a whole league of its own in terms of quality
But I don’t have to really interact with people while being the center of attention
Occasionally people ask for photos but it’s not overwhelming
zinc talon
visual stream
Kroxigor cosplay would go super hard. Lord kroak too, perhaps
A chieftain skink would be neat, or Kroq-gar
But like you said
zinc talon
that is a ton of putty
visual stream
A kroxigor, especially Nakai would be awesome
zinc talon
don't they have weird like dreadlock hairspikes that stick out all over in weird places
or am I thinking of the kroot, prolly am
visual stream
All of the above would be difficult anyway
I say a chieftain skink because it would probably be a ton easier and fit a person-sized frame better
scenic drift
i dressed up as a happy and productive member of society
but no one noticed
They noticed, but were just jealous of you
carmine lance
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-celebration-gif-23199880
lmao, thank you
modern lintel
signal spoke
I think that hammerblow is not necessary for crusher but it can be very fun tbh
I use it on my arbites and you just stagger everything
spare talon
impact is basically stagger strength
since its % based it scales off of the weapons impact, so it has a huge effect on crusher
the more of it you have, the easier it is to stagger things, and the more severe the stagger is
that crusher will easily knock everything on their ass, but its beyond overkill
if you want an ideal crusher, skullcrusher is a must
zinc talon
^
kindred python
How good is Trauma for the Crusher? It just seems like a worse version of Hammerblow
zinc talon
existential
opportunist pairs well with skullcrusher, as both require an intial knock-on-ass to get to work
spare talon
How good is Trauma for the Crusher? It just seems like a worse version of Hammer...
it is
spare talon
but opportunist comes at the cost of a strength blessing like slaughterer, which is 3 good effects in one
zinc talon
the other one is like shred, if you miss a swing the stacks reset
spare talon
all multiplicitive
zinc talon
sure, all valid
twin wagon
zinc talon
opportunist meshes in a way the whole weapon becomes easier to get a feel for, so I like pointing that way when someone's new to it or just learning
kindred python
Is the Alt power for the Whack Hammer good
It seems worse at clearing hordes and worse at attacking single targets
zinc talon
I have fat fingered medkits like that before
kindred python
From forcing you to stop attacking
spare talon
Is the Alt power for the Whack Hammer good
its a small damage bump, much higher for armor
has a large suppresion radius for control
and also gives all your attacks infinite cleave
zinc talon
for the crusher specifically I also enjoy leaning on the weapon's crit and weakspot damage
I know I know, ew weakspot boo hiss
signal spoke
but weakspot go bonk
zinc talon
but the crusher's tiered damage step-ups are bigly yuge compared to other weapons, and also have different numbers for weakspot versus crit damage
unlike say chainswords
when I'm in my zone using it I can hit low sixty percent crit rates, and about there weakspot hit rate too, for all the attacks I did start to finish
that means, law of large numbers, every other swing I swungged was a weak spot crit hit
and crusher weak spot crit hits, are chef's kiss in terms of damage multipliers
so I thought, if I'm already critting every other swing, why not add the other one and then focus on hitting the head that often too
instead of crit rate and crit damage
I guess the whole thing depends on you going max crit elsewhere and really swingin for the fences with it
but it was a lot more entertaining being like, thunder hammer lil' brudder with the added cleave and aoe detonations
also, push attack weakspot damage multipliers aren't listed in the damage table cuz no weapons' is, but the multiplier is a lot more generous than other swings
anyways I'll quit firehosin
and the way the crusher knocks things around with the push beforehand really helps autoaim weakspot hits across the gamut of enemies you're swinging at
(and the push counts for skullcrusher)
inner juniper
Lowkey feel like crusher is just inferior to power hammer
i havent ran it in like a year i feel like i get mobbed and cant clear hordes or specials nearly as fast
just imo
zinc talon
if you can believe it, it's almost a duellist weapon despite its big CC appearance
inner juniper
maybe thats why i had little luck with it
i always use it on my chorus CC build
maybe i should run it on my fury build instead
zinc talon
yeah, it does that too, but the game with the crusher becomes: how do I knock this thing on its ass in the first swing, and how many swings do I need before it gets back up
inner juniper
fair
im willing to admit that i just been using it wrong
just something I always thought about
zinc talon
the weapon combos are also very bonk/cleave/bonk/cleave across lights or heavies, but within the next swing can switch to all cleave or all bonk light/heavy repeating combos
so you're always ever one swing away from changing into whatever's needed then in the moment
it's also silly nimble
I haven't played with it on the zealot since arbitrator debuted but it used to be my go to weapon usage wise
the newest meta gave the OG eviscerator its crown back
so I'm back with the highschool sweetheart
inner juniper
makes sense
zinc talon
you can swing skip with it using push but not push attack to hit any attack the weapon has on offer, on the first swing, while revved
inner juniper
I think I always appreciated that it was a quick and versatile weapon that fills the niche of power hammer somewhat, I think i was just running it without crit which heavily nerfed its potential
zinc talon
they changed the way the evis saw attacks deal damage and give you total agency on being able to dodge out and still get rewarded for activating
inner juniper
yeah i remmeber when you were stuck in the animation on chain weapons
that was a rough time
zinc talon
yeah, crit multipliers get just astronomical when you take the step up damage itself for the swings, plus your talents, plus rending etc that can come from anywhere
suddenly you can two and three swing entire lines of specials like shotgunners and one-two okiedoke ragers out of existence
that in itself is a huge boost for using the weapon, it's practically free therapy
inner juniper
I may try it in my fury build sometime then, im all crit out on it so It may give me better results, thanks for the tip
zinc talon
and yeah the thing struggles with outright boss damage and doesn't chump crushers
carmine lance
do people not do mortis trials anymore lol
zinc talon
but it chumps reapers and opens up bulwarks on command
inner juniper
ive been really just running power maul or catachan swords on that build rn
zinc talon
power maul got its crown back too
inner juniper
yeah its felt really good to use
i take long breaks from the game at a time so I never really know what changes all that much
but the power maul has felt leagues better than it did when I last played during the summer time
zinc talon
i take long breaks from the game at a time so I never really know what changes a...
half the time we don't either, they'll ninja change it or reword the tooltip to better reflect what's actually happening
inner juniper
good to know at least lol
inner juniper
do people not do mortis trials anymore lol
i have no idea i thought people would play it more with this last update
zinc talon
I'm amazed how much just adding the new attack helped the whole thing in terms of usage in the moment
it's a lot more flexible with that third big bonk
the repeating lights have their own space too now
quick clear and clean up
signal spoke
the white shoulder pads of the 21st make me think is their heads
zinc talon
the repeating lights are much faster to kill from about ragers on down
signal spoke
actually come think of it would be fun to have more infested grotesque enemies, imagine a two headed poxers
zinc talon
anything you can slap aside with a bully club you can have dead in 2, maybe 3 L3 / L4's
the heavy swings only start to do better work when the cleave runs out on the repeats and you're not bonking several
oh so
when you activate now, like when you hit the button on your keyboard
it used to really snare you
and now it still does too but less and for less time, and
when you hit shift to sprint, you consolidate down to 0% faster and start sprint accelerating to whatever your sprint speed is
all that to say, if you backstep, and activate, and time your pressing shift to the moment you stop 'dodging' and start catching on the terrain again
you'll rubber shoes grip and immediately start going sprint speed
you can backstep, activate, sprint forward, and be back in an enemies face with the hammer coming down on a heavy with zero downtime
gdit I just talked myself into playing a round right now
been enjoying shockwave shenanigans the last couple times I've used a maul
that's what's giving me those WWF lookin detonations
placid fiber
Fuck is that
formal umbra
Good ending
placid fiber
No I know what a hot pocket is
copper hawk
placid fiber
modern lintel
i was trying to describe this bird to someone as i was falling asleep but couldnt remember the name
spare talon
The damn bird
frosty herald
@heady rapids HR 300
elfin steppe
placid fiber
The damn bird
signal spoke
https://fxtwitter.com/real_hotaru/status/1984604259120226423?t=rUEXWmfhiBqZFno4GFMT_A&s=19 type shit
heady rapids
mighty root
signal spoke
mighty root
glossy nimbus
misty nova
Monkey D. labubu
Can't wait for Dispatch to add the 6 hours sex quick time event
But Heavy Rain has prepared me for it
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/heavy-jason-gif-9705314
south prism
glossy nimbus
Never finished undertale cuz I couldn't handle toriel turning around.
umbral lily
Hi zealots, as a melee monke vet, i need assistance making a melee monke zealot. Please advise
obtuse stirrup
Hi zealots, as a melee monke vet, i need assistance making a melee monke zealot....
Build: anything
Zealot is melee monkey by default, non-negotiable
drowsy steppe
obtuse stirrup
Apart from that, I would consider Holy Revenant non-negotiable
Get any one of the CDR talents based on what your build does/which keystone you want
Have fun with it
Throwing knives are fucking great and well worth learning to use
umbral lily
polar nexus
Apart from that, I would consider Holy Revenant non-negotiable
Holy revenant is mandatory rn, no?
obtuse stirrup
Holy revenant is mandatory rn, no?
Until Death is mandatory
But imo without Holy Revenant it's too fragile
I mean, advanced players consider skipping if you know it isn't going to help you, but anybody starting out should consider it a fixed point
polar nexus
Ah yes you're right
obtuse stirrup
I think the rest of the tree is negotiable and situation/style dependent
I always take sustained assault and the unyielding damage bonus no matter what, I might be incorrect in doing so though. Not up on the theory
But I tend to value unyielding damage highly because all of my favourite modes are boss and ogryn spam
You probably always want Second Wind too
Just one of the best toughness regeneration talents going
Rewards you directly for playing well so also a good learning tool
polar nexus
Second wind and sustained are too good to pass up
full nebula
pseudo mirage
FINALLY completed the "shocking stuff" penance!
gaunt roost
which combat blade is better
pseudo mirage
catachan by a longshot
gaunt roost
what combos
pseudo mirage
you want that swipe, and alt poke
heavy for crushers and whatnot, easily stack crit
and bleed
long oasis
arent they both catachan
pseudo mirage
the one that looks like the jungle knife
long oasis
yea
heady rapids
gaunt roost
this one?
long oasis
knife
long oasis
is this real or fake news
drowsy steppe
pseudo mirage
i like the look of the 3, but i put the maSTERY SKIN ON MY 6 ANYWAYS CAUSE I LIKE THE FIGHT STYLE
long oasis
3 has always been better
pseudo mirage
oops caps
pseudo mirage
3 has always been better
ehh, if its comfortable for ya
its def personal preference, depends on how you like to fight with it. im in and out, stack crit and bleed, they die over time, im on to the next group by the time my crew gets a chance to hit the last ones
(last group already being dead lol)
long oasis
what do you run on your knife?
pseudo mirage
ill share when im outta this mission
drowsy steppe
left looks uncomfortable to wear
obtuse stirrup
I usually take uncanny flesh tearer
But idk if flesh tearer is still the way
With new bleed talents
I haven't run it with new talents yet
And then flak elites I think?
heady rapids
is this real or fake news
what is
long oasis
big titty krieg gf
heady rapids
no cause fatshark hates money
long oasis
aw man
frosty herald
pseudo mirage
so i should preface this with, i do take this to h40. ONLY when i have my own group on, but for auric maelstrom its wonderful
for secondary, its usually the classic purgation flamer or spearhead boltgun for bosses
i did have flesh tearer on it before, ive found this performs a bit better tho
frosty herald
pseudo mirage
i do also run this same knife on my psyker! (i use brain burst, so its not like im spamming magic the whole time, mostly use it on big bois)
glad ermine
i did have flesh tearer on it before, ive found this performs a bit better tho
Yes. Same here, lacerate is far more realistic consistency under pressure, and you need that bleed without delay, both for snowballing scourge and aiding in horde clear
glad ermine
Knife blessings are very good, but you have to think about how it really is mid fight
Vet is a different story
frosty herald
I trust whatever ainz says
glad ermine
He can cheat because he applies bleed on hit anyways
So there is breathing room in blessing choice
glad ermine
I trust whatever ainz says
Excellent players are a great foundation but you also gotta see what ye work well with
drowsy steppe
pseudo mirage
Excellent players are a great foundation but you also gotta see what ye work wel...
ive learned the hard way that following yt builds doesnt make ya great all of a sudden, fool around with the talent sheet, make something silly. it could alaways be improved when you realise something feels off. (and that being said, goes for most games with this kind of system)
polar nexus
Put 28 points into good and reliable talents and keep the last two for fun
glad ermine
Tbh the more ive played horde shooters the more ive learnt to experiment, and only use these good players's advices/builds as a "skeleton" for what i will work with
pseudo mirage
this ^
polar nexus
ive learned the hard way that following yt builds doesnt make ya great all of a ...
Most of the builds on YouTube are complete utter nonsense
pseudo mirage
Most of the builds on YouTube are complete utter nonsense
agreed
glad ermine
Youtube and gameslantern gets troubling lol
I like them for ease of share in both gameplay clips and content. But they're not a good source of info
pseudo mirage
lantern is just used to share publicly what you built, like many other games with a site like that for builds. none of them are vetted
frosty herald
I would just stick to the discord
People here usually knows what their talking about
radiant raptor
now im curious to look at the #1 build for every class
polar nexus
Nobody here is doing it for the views
frosty herald
And zealot chat in my observations has the highest skilled players
polar nexus
Had
radiant raptor
oh... oh no.
pseudo mirage
And zealot chat in my observations has the highest skilled players
id say were the most patient, i for one...am a psyker main. but my most fun is had as a zealot
frosty herald
id say were the most patient, i for one...am a psyker main. but my most fun is h...
Melee psyker right now is very fun
You can get quite tanky
pseudo mirage
Melee psyker right now is very fun
that is why i use my knife instead of spamming smite like these newer players lol
pseudo mirage
or throwing crystals like the starbucks girl
frosty herald
I use force greatsword mk8 and forget i have ranged
radiant raptor
all of the #1 gameslantern builds for each class is...
except for the ogryn one, but ogryn is ogryn and you have to be trying to make something bad
pseudo mirage
force greatsword is fun, ive used both the blaze and the greatsword, both are pretty chill
glad ermine
FGS is such a humble and balanced weapon
radiant raptor
deimos' heavy poke hard staggering crushers is sof unny
pseudo mirage
except for the ogryn one, but ogryn is ogryn and you have to be trying to make s...
big pickaxe, rock. build is done lol
frosty herald
I wouldnt say theres a real meta on any of the classes right now
Its pretty diverse
heady rapids
pseudo mirage
and thats good!
radiant raptor
good thing, really
pseudo mirage
meta is boring af
radiant raptor
id say there's still a best path a lot of the time but, zealot is finally free of The Build
frosty herald
Its a very good thing
pseudo mirage
have fun with your own creation, dont rely on what is "better" simply cause a ton of others use it
frosty herald
Lotta games on there that are anti goverment lol
ivory marlin
Do you think they get the neko city dlc for a hat in time
I should replay a hat in time
violet hornet
weekend solo queue havoc / auric be like
violet hornet
krill issue
gaunt roost
what does combat blade do better than eviscerator this feels so bad
radiant raptor
have movement
coral tendon
what does combat blade do better than eviscerator this feels so bad
Speed. Lots of speed to get to gun lines/priority targets before they fuck up your team
Try using the block push/stab and grab a +3 stamina curio.
Take stamina regen as welll
Sure, it won’t take down bosses/crushers as fast as the Evis, but you can still do quite welll vs them!
obtuse stirrup
Chain weapons tend to trade hits a bit more
Combat blade you aim to never get hit
gaunt roost
ooh im not great at that
glad ermine
what does combat blade do better than eviscerator this feels so bad
survivability? damage? what's lacking for you
gaunt roost
damage
gaunt roost
send me the knife and the build behind it
glad ermine
there's some work to be done with the talent tree itself. but first and foremost i would not be taking shroudfield here, you have an immense tax already just by trying to squeeze together shroudfield + piety. also take unyielding + cara, swap precog to lacerate
i will make a new fotf tree, do as you see fit with it but i suggest giving it a try
brb
look at how much neater it is now with fotf, and the amount of comfort you have
anyways first and foremost remember to make those knife changes
lacerate is very important
it snowballs scourge naturally
and helps in horde clear
something the knife is not exactly the best at
gaunt roost
there's some work to be done with the talent tree itself. but first and foremost...
@carmine lance ur builds being slandered
gaunt roost
bet ty ill give it a shot
glad ermine
bet ty ill give it a shot
let me know if you don't mind, i am curious to see how you feel with this
ivory marlin
Woah zealot chat is on topic
obtuse stirrup
Hate lacerate
gaunt roost
insert bleed knife gif
obtuse stirrup
And you don't want to not stab heads
glad ermine
And you don't want to not stab heads
that is unrealistic under pressure tbh
ivory marlin
Also doesnt zealot still have intrinsic bleed
long oasis
if you take scourge
ivory marlin
Lacerate is dumb useless perk
long oasis
how about you just run precog
glad ermine
no lol
gaunt roost
this seems really strong no?
glad ermine
lacerate has the best consistency throughout high difficulties
obtuse stirrup
Knife is utterly full of great blessings
obtuse stirrup
this seems really strong no?
Worse than Uncanny
glad ermine
this seems really strong no?
it's too situational and uncanny does the job for you already
obtuse stirrup
Lacerate runs utterly counter to the weapo
gaunt roost
#removeuncanny 🗣️
radiant raptor
AND once you have stacks, uncanny works for any hit
obtuse stirrup
And takes a slot that has so many better options
long oasis
why run bleed blessings at all
radiant raptor
more bleed
long oasis
none of your talents depend on how many stacks you have just that you have a stack
glad ermine
to snowball scourge further and help with horde clear, something the knife lacks. bleed stacks are not a joke
and assuming you're going to be that perfect in weakspot hits to take flesh tearer is arrogant
this is untrue in havoc
it only works in theory
gaunt roost
and assuming you're going to be that perfect in weakspot hits to take flesh tear...
weakspots are really easy to hit what
just swing 3 times at some groaners and you're max stacks immediately as well
glad ermine
play with lacerate and come back
modern jasper
Debuff Indicator mod shows that captains still have brittleness when I applied it with flamer before their shield went out
TIL you can debuff them through their shield
frosty herald
You can also bleed through shield i think
modern jasper
Oooooo
That would make sense with how many captains I've seen die with their shield up
pseudo mirage
adding on to his point, i use to use flesh tearer and it doesnt feel anywhere near as great than using lacerate. still, if youre good with flesh tearer go for it. just not optimal for me
polar nexus
You can also bleed through shield i think
Through the bullwark's shield only iirc
Not the void shield
carmine falcon
and assuming you're going to be that perfect in weakspot hits to take flesh tear...
I don't think hitting weak spots is this hard tbh
Just have a max height character and swing head height 
There's very few attacks u actually have to physically aim
With weird angles
median steeple
the only way to bleed through the refractor shield is to bleed them before it goes up
because they didn't make it so the shield cleanses statuses
it should
glad ermine
With weird angles
it's not that weak spot accuracy is hard. it's that the ability to snowball scourge and the horde clear boost is needed on demand whether you do that or not, and realistically, in more dense havoc hordes you are not going to be hitting heads that consistently
glad ermine
it's easy to overestimate until you have nurgle's entire legion on you, and you have to clutch to rescue your teammate
median steeple
frosty herald
THE ONE AND ONLY
carmine falcon
it's not that weak spot accuracy is hard. it's that the ability to snowball scou...
Fair but why not pair knife with a good horde clear ranged
frosty herald
VON VALENCIUS
carmine falcon
And maximize single target output 
sterile stone
@gray ice You use the rattler?
glad ermine
Fair but why not pair knife with a good horde clear ranged
because then you're relying on your ranged and are dependant on your ammo, this could fall on your head from either A. slim jim veteran on your team who picks up all ammo B. AI deciding it's a good day to throw every horde of walker known to man C. no ammo pickups
having a tool for only one job is always a risk and a variable
there's a reason no builds are narrow minded or tunnel focused on one thing
everytime players do that they're shit
carmine falcon
I've always made knife without bleed work in aurics but ig anything works in aurics
glad ermine
funny of you to assume i have friends that i can coordinate with
i am the only variable and the job falls on me
that is the true pugs mindset
gotta prepare for the worst
glad ermine
I've always made knife without bleed work in aurics but ig anything works in aur...
sadly now yes lol
what with the new talent trees too
check out this 30k inspired Dark Angel
tabletop accurate heraldry
calm charm
Perks n blessings for braced autogun? And which mark should i use
glad ermine
helm taken from rogue trader era DA
frosty herald
i would play assault more if the class didnt look so visually boring
carmine falcon
check out this 30k inspired Dark Angel
Very sick damn
glad ermine
Perks n blessings for braced autogun? And which mark should i use
Agripinaa Mk VIII, flak, maniac, deathspitter and fire frenzy
did the weekly solo with assault to pass the time today. slowly getting back on sm2
carmine falcon
i would play assault more if the class didnt look so visually boring
He's not that bad tbh
I'm currently mixing relic guard with black templars set 
sterile stone
did the weekly solo with assault to pass the time today. slowly getting back on ...
Aye
carmine falcon
did the weekly solo with assault to pass the time today. slowly getting back on ...
Did it was tac
sterile stone
Aye aye aye
carmine falcon
Pure pain
sterile stone
Lemme get that free carry
frosty herald
i just need to cook a bit with assault
sterile stone
frosty herald
<:HankSmile:1208416956726648925>
just wait till tomorrow mayne
glad ermine
He's not that bad tbh
I'm currently mixing relic guard with black templars set ...
My BT, this is also TT accurate however i use wraithbone like in earlier edition art, to make them look more worn out
sterile stone
just wait till tomorrow mayne
calm charm
Agripinaa Mk VIII, flak, maniac, deathspitter and fire frenzy
So it's supposed to be horde clear I assume
carmine falcon
My BT, this is also TT accurate however i use wraithbone like in earlier edition...
Me likey
frosty herald
my flesh tearer bulwark is like the best i made
glad ermine
So it's supposed to be horde clear I assume
agripinaa braced is amazing at mixed hordes. if there are packs of elites too annoying to look at your gun will remove them
gaunt roost
Combat blade you aim to never get hit
this is my damage taken usually
carmine falcon
I need to cook some drip cause everything I have rn is just basic mishmash shit lmao
calm charm
agripinaa braced is amazing at mixed hordes. if there are packs of elites too an...
What about the shotgun?
gaunt roost
im the second one
glad ermine
What about the shotgun?
combat shotgun? amazing weapon
glad ermine
Lemme get that free carry
i'd help you but with the current weekly modifier, if you get hit i get hit, you get the idea. we can certainly try though
sterile stone
i'd help you but with the current weekly modifier, if you get hit i get hit, you...
I mean I'd have to level my bulwark up
glad ermine
i have to finish some assignments soon, though i'll be free during the night
sterile stone
I'm at p2 11 atm
sterile stone
how experienced are you at stratagems
glad ermine
ah i see lol
we can roll it so you get the MVP modifier. but if that's the case, you dying means we lose
frosty herald
argus gets clipped by a devourerer and the king dies
sterile stone
I mean I can run absolute relatively find
sterile stone
argus gets clipped by a devourerer and the king dies
Listen here you fodder ammo
glad ermine
if you take damage it's bad for the entire game
not saying you will
just preparing you mentally
frosty herald
sterile stone
I don't wanna hear nada from the goober who got hard carried through havoc 40
sterile stone
When it was at it's easiest iteration
glad ermine
i like the idea but my snob ass could never with the glove and the lack of heraldry
they can get pretty interesting
anyways
glad ermine
When it was at it's easiest iteration
let me know for that game later if you're still up for it
i'll go work now
in the meanwhile, level up and prepare
sterile stone
i'll go work now
All good, was about to see if I can power level real quick
glad ermine
the fastest way to earn xp is wave 5 hard siege
frosty herald
the fastest way to earn xp is wave 5 hard siege
fuck it we ball quickplay absolute
glad ermine
well
it works but it is worse for the job
since, pugs.
it's sometimes worse than solo play even
there's a reason i do hard stratagems alone 
sterile stone
it's sometimes worse than solo play even
I've seen FTG and his guys actually finish a hard mode seige
like 2 or 3 hour long match
Fuck all that man
glad ermine
lmao
hard siege is too long for my attention span
luckily
hard stratagems have the same difficulty modifiers
only lacking the multiple terminus fights
which my PC can barely run anyways
so eh, i'm happy with hard stratas
for context
ivory marlin
glad ermine
Hard siege:
+15% damage senstivity modifier to players (more damage taken)
-30% damage sensitivity modifier to enemies (less damage taken)
on top of base absolute values and hordes
carmine falcon
Hard siege needs a full rework
The waves are too long
Shit takes forever and they could just trim the spawns (it runs like ass anyway) while making it a looot more focused on objectives
Cause rn the objectives are very much optional
glad ermine
yeah
adding modifiers to siege like they said they will wont do much at all for the game mode
its boring at its core
you need to wait so long just for it to get entertaining
and by then, you're lucky if your pc can even run it
carmine falcon
It's fun every once in a while but lacks of real objective focus and maps makes operations the better mode
They could also just make it wacky like in mods
heady rapids
they need to make the starting location random
carmine falcon
Fuck it summon 50 bots
Astartes mods does make the game significantly easier but they have lots of wacky stuff for fun
heady rapids
me neither
sterile stone
And I have like 4 mobs in front of me in finisher mode
heady rapids
aside from shitty lights
gaunt roost
let me know if you don't mind, i am curious to see how you feel with this
felt a lot better, but maybe swapping vauto for flamer had something to do with it
ty
carmine falcon
People hate it? It's the strongest weapon in the game
Infinite ammo beam of death
That reaches 20 meters
carmine falcon
He finds it boring and so do I kinda
The lights being so bad are such a travesty
I wanna punch people but I'm forced to cosplay goku
heady rapids
it's more of a gimmick weapon than anything
carmine falcon
Heroic powefist feels ai generated
Worthless buff to the lights while nerfing the heavies and a wonky gunstrike lol
mighty root
there's some work to be done with the talent tree itself. but first and foremost...
That knife is fine lac isn’t really worth
carmine lance
<@517542591592398850> ur builds being slandered
People will avoid shroudfield like it’s the goddamn plague 
mighty root
Why punish yourself by not hitting the head
Yeah stealth isn’t really good still
Only for speedrunning
It has less tax but that’s about it
glad ermine
the level of consistency is not the same as with lacerate tbh, no one hits that level of heads, ever. i've personally ran both and i've noticed the higher difficulty i play with em the more value lacerate gains
frosty herald
Only for speedrunning
Bruh
glad ermine
it's a very good comfort net knowing you'll have bleed easily, especially in larger hordes
heady rapids
you could just check your weakspot %
mighty root
@gaunt roost https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button this is what I run
glad ermine
i don't like shroudfield nowhere near as much as others either tbh
i still think fotf is king by a long shot
mighty root
it's a very good comfort net knowing you'll have bleed easily, especially in lar...
With zealots crit I’d just run ft
gaunt roost
<@387365108692680704> https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec...
you and your taxe
gaunt roost
yea but i also dont want to use bolter, its far and away my most used ranged and i want to branch out
mighty root
yea but i also dont want to use bolter, its far and away my most used ranged and...
Yeah that’s understandable
You don’t gotta
What are you wanting to use?
glossy nimbus
How do I properly parry crushers
mighty root
How do I properly parry crushers
Special action
sterile stone
@carmine falcon I need a build for the heavy bolt pistol
glad ermine
lmao
mighty root
On dcalw
glossy nimbus
Special action
where aim
sterile stone
Need a alt for the plasma pistol
glossy nimbus
where
glossy nimbus
You keep giving me head
glad ermine
god damn
sterile stone
gracias
gaunt roost
<@460880975283486731> I need a build for the heavy bolt pistol
i like flakiac runngun puncture
glad ermine
lolol
glossy nimbus
Peels off ur skin
mighty root
carmine falcon
<@460880975283486731> I need a build for the heavy bolt pistol
I go bottom row than top row on classes that use their ult often and full upper row for the rest
glad ermine
I go bottom row than top row on classes that use their ult often and full upper ...
the fact i have no idea what this means
i don't see the correlation
sterile stone
game fucked me over so hard with the lock on
frosty herald
I straight up forgot the game had lock on
heady rapids
oh that's neat
sterile stone
I'm ngl
heady rapids
it aims up?
frosty herald
Do you attack upwards?
glad ermine
yes
heady rapids
wow
glad ermine
you can hit zoans with the wave
heady rapids
this game is pretty deep
frosty herald
Ok now THAT is useful
sterile stone
I wish people in this game would stop throwing entire matches to revive someone
glad ermine
pfist is broken
heady rapids
noted
glad ermine
2nd
sterile stone
Bro sees me downed
heady rapids
yeah
glad ermine
1 segment = 33% hp
heady rapids
o
glad ermine
now you know when to hook execute
heady rapids
it's just like monster hunter
glad ermine
yes
glad ermine
but if u wanna be a real sweat tanner lindberg femboy
heady rapids
i will forget those tips in a moment tho
sterile stone
but if u wanna be a real sweat tanner lindberg femboy
I've seen what this guy looks like
sterile stone
Please do not bring his name up
glad ermine
66% hp = yellow aura on enemy hit
heady rapids
fr monster hunter shit
mighty root
I still have to 1v1 him on controller lol
heady rapids
i never paid attention
glad ermine
I still have to 1v1 him on controller lol
hes gonna shove the controller in is bum
glad ermine
i never paid attention
me neither, took me some time to figure out
mighty root
hes gonna shove the controller in is bum
❓
glad ermine
sterile stone
with no lock on
And it's wild as fuck cause I swear someone was going on about how the power axe is better
heady rapids
could make a vid titled SPCAE MARINE 2 HIDDEN MECHANICS and get am illion views
mighty root
It’s pretty funny
glad ermine
power axe vanguard? it's quite strong
potent tulip
Is martyrdom absolutely essential for Havoc? I dont like how risky it is for going down.
heady rapids
power axe is strong af
mighty root
Is martyrdom absolutely essential for Havoc? I dont like how risky it is for go...
Not at all
mighty root
Is martyrdom absolutely essential for Havoc? I dont like how risky it is for go...
It’s skill based your allowing yourself to take damage
heady rapids
esp good on vanguard cause it lets you easily get distance to hook back in
mighty root
All zealot keystones are good
frosty herald
Cant wait for a block version of the heroic thammer
glad ermine
could make a vid titled SPCAE MARINE 2 HIDDEN MECHANICS and get am illion views
i've been slaving away at the game for 800+ hours now, this is not a bad idea, but i don't work well this way. my brain has better responses with Q and A like this
mighty root
@potent tulip what weapon are you using?
mental notch
combat blade dumb stat for stealth zealot?
potent tulip
<@662880596229619734> what weapon are you using?
I’ve been really wanting to use Heavy eviscerator in a havoc build for big damage
pseudo mirage
combat blade dumb stat for stealth zealot?
id still say mobility
mighty root
combat blade dumb stat for stealth zealot?
Stealth so yucky! But mobility
glad ermine
mobility yeh
glad ermine
I’ve been really wanting to use Heavy eviscerator in a havoc build for big damag...
who the hell put you on marty for heavy evisc
mighty root
I’ve been really wanting to use Heavy eviscerator in a havoc build for big damag...
I’d do crit
mighty root
Crit evis so good
glad ermine
yesss
mighty root
One sec
pale spindle
Is martyrdom absolutely essential for Havoc? I dont like how risky it is for go...
when was it?
potent tulip
who the hell put you on marty for heavy evisc
Mister E on youtube😔
umbral lily
Hows beacon of purity?
sterile stone
BACK OFF IM GONNA THROW UP
Aye is your bulwark build centered around solo or team play?
mighty root
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button @potent tulip I do the mk 15 evis
pale spindle
so dont trust ❌
pseudo mirage
mister E is NOT to be trusted lol, he explains stats and strategy well, but doesnt make any good builds to replicate that knowledge
glad ermine
Aye is your bulwark build centered around solo or team play?
well, sm2 isn't like darktide where you can take "ego"/"solo" perks, only to a minor extent. here is my bulwark build
