#zealot-class

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frosty herald
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chain nunchucks

mystic ether
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Dual wield

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:^)

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There a such thing as a chain/power/heatsink dagger?

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Idk shit about 40k I just play the games.

frosty herald
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just realised that saber can repurpose the techmarine axe into a halberd of caliban for bulwark and assault

frosty herald
dull iris
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how about chain knucles

mystic ether
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Idc if they suck. Drop em.

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I wanna choke out a trapper.

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Just reach out and handle that pos.

frosty herald
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there are also chain flails and chain hammers

mystic ether
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Chainhammer pfft.

frosty herald
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Chain Flails are two-handed melee weapons that combine the indiscriminate lethality of a chainsword with the savagery of a flail. Utilising a solid grip with a trigger attached by various adamantine cables to a whirring head lined by four parallel rows of voracious teeth,

dull iris
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it's really strange to see no flail after vt2

mystic ether
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Do zealots got some stupid shit with like chain censors?

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Or whatever tech is in thammers and crushers?

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A shield and a power morning star or something would be cool.

mystic ether
spare talon
mystic ether
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Or crusher tech and a 3 section staff.

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40k already dumb as hell. Why not

dull iris
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they really need to add more of the zany weapons

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they could add the whip

mystic ether
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Chainsaw chainwhip

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The special is a garrote (holy shit faded typing)

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Or some dumb rev where the zealot wraps the chain partially on their forearm and tears into whatever with an elbow cross thrashing it out in front of them.

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I still want ogryn WWE even as a pipedream

dull iris
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knowing fatshark they'll add some common weapon like another sword at best

mystic ether
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I'll take dual wield sure fuck it.

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Easy playerbase needle.

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For like maybe a few weeks or something lol

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Shortsword and dagger is enough for me. Dual daggers are ideal.

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I know what I am.

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People are about to get real sick of zealot real fast

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If I get that

dull iris
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dual daggers would be a dream

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well, dual knives

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basically every weapon that didn't make it from VT

mystic ether
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Make it dumb and have a dagger and a knife

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Lmao

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Put it on psyker. staregryn

spare talon
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2 daemonhosts, 10 damage, 0 dodges

scenic drift
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I'm confused what is the problem here?

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compared other classes that can two shot crushers with buffs?

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fgs or psword on vet?

I haven't tried asm, but I'm sure there's a build that can hit 2 or 3 shot crusher?

mystic ether
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I like it being exclusive unless it's duelling sword personally

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:^)

scenic drift
spare talon
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i think its a problem that it is that strong out of the box already

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like this is just a generic zealot build

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it isnt super ultra damage maxxing for awesome showcase numbers

scenic drift
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isn't that 5 stack marty?

spare talon
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i just threw this over my thammer build and changed 1 talent point

scenic drift
spare talon
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yeah?

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and?

scenic drift
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so your thammer build skips good damage talents or what is the argument there?

spare talon
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my point is that with other classes they typically go "oh look what vet can do" and they stack an unreasonable amount of buffs including some that no one normally takes

scenic drift
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and in any case, they don't have to give zealot the same psword, tweak the numbers a little if it's too high as is.

dull iris
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true

spare talon
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thats not how weapon archetypes work

dull iris
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give him a power 2 handed sword

frosty herald
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Some buffs that you dont trigger in normal play

dull iris
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there is some many power weapons the zealot should be getting instead of the sword

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(flail, fist, axe, spear)

scenic drift
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pain why won't it embed properly

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idk, I just hate the fact that zealot now feels less enjoyable to play than psword vet, fgs psyker or asm arbi

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and I'd really hate it if fatsharks solution to that, would be to nerf other classes/weapons.

hushed bolt
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martyrdom zealot can just take any weapon and go ballistic with it tho

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much easier to have full stacks now

gleaming furnace
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but its like more less harder

hushed bolt
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still run 3 wound curios and you can stay at quarter health with max stacks

scenic drift
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I think part of the frustration with things is the carapaceification of the game.

gleaming furnace
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cus u gotta have the more less stacks do to do the greatly big damage less thumbsup_ogryn

spare talon
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I mean
The solution to the vast majority of the games problems starts with nerfs to characters and weapons

scenic drift
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Maybe your problems with the game.

spare talon
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Part of the reason why theres so much carapace is because its the only way to challenge the OP builds and weapons of the game

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Because they're that strong

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Which makes everything underneath suffer even more

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Furthering the reason why those weapons were picked in the first place

hushed bolt
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heavy sword is like one of my most enjoyable weapons on zealot, but it's mega carapace cucked

spare talon
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If the weapons were instead toned back when they needed to be, the enemies wouldn't have been scaled to meet them there

gleaming furnace
scenic drift
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🤔

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Wouldn't the 'elites' still cry that the game is too easy and the casuals would cry the game is too hard

hushed bolt
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casuals are stuck in heresy

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we ignore those

spare talon
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I mean that'll always happen but it wont be as bad as it is now

scenic drift
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I doubt that somehow.

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It assumes fatshark is capable of balancing it well.

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Given their trackrecord, I am skeptical.

spare talon
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They are capable but they just refuse to touch it out of fear of another review bomb

scenic drift
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were they afraid of review bombs in vt1?

spare talon
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So they let the wound continue to fester and get worse

scenic drift
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vt2?

gleaming furnace
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ive seen ppl cry about how op something is in 40 without passing a 25

scenic drift
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those games had the same shit balance in terms of weapons

molten vector
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Guys quick what's the best or like a decent autogun to try out

hushed bolt
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the game is fine balance wise around auric maelstrom

spare talon
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My experience dates back to the start of darktide but I know tiptoeing balance around review bombs has existed for ages

hushed bolt
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you can run most things and be totally fine

scenic drift
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and I think if the overall player 'fun' diminishes, then people are justified to leave a bad review.

gleaming furnace
spare talon
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But specifically after helldivers happened, its only grown worse

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hushed bolt
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im just surprised they're waiting so much to touch plasma

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I mean you should have at least one way to deal with carapace

spare talon
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Any nerf is viewed the same way as the devs shooting their dog in front of them
In any game

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hushed bolt
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anything else is throwing

scenic drift
hushed bolt
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you don't have to have the most meta carapace killer

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just not only weapons that do 0 to it

scenic drift
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helldivers still sees 60k player peaks daily arpothink

hushed bolt
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with no abilities or blitzes to deal with it

spare talon
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Didnt helldivers have issues recently where it actually was bricking people's gpus
Anyway

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My point isnt with helldivers as a game
But the lessons gamers learned from it

hollow needle
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noone was talking about playercounts or anything it was about the community bullying the devs any time they don't like something

spare talon
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Which was
"All nerfs are bad, throw a tantrum until the devs turn it into buffs"

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It doesnt matter if the complaints were justified or not

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spare talon
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You can look back to when powersword initially got nerfed and still see tons of negative reviews left there

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When power sword didnt give literally 7 charged swings anymore

frosty herald
spare talon
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That still affects the steam rating

frosty herald
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and its resulting in hardlocked pcs

hollow needle
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never forget negative reviews for a leaked potential nerf to DS and plasma gun
didnt even fucking happen yet and people were already pissing themselves

spare talon
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People saying they just killed vet and made him unplayable

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vocal pulsar
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theyd rather say their fav class is dead, than admit they just have a skill issue and need certain weapons to carry them

spare talon
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Like the point of game balance is to achieve a level playing field
Sometimes you need to raise one side up, and sometimes you need to drop one side down

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Quite literally balancing the two

hollow needle
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erm its literally pve it doesnt need to be balanced :^)

spare talon
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I will tear your throat out

hollow needle
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the amount of times ive seen that argument unironically is sad

exotic plaza
frosty herald
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helldivers 2 almost died because of the balancing

exotic plaza
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I love it when they said "its buffin' time" but didnt buff the constitution to heavy pen

twin wagon
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I hope hd2 dies so the spawn it has created doesn't spread to other communities

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MO doing, dev kissing, nerf raging hellwhiners.

hollow needle
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it wasnt the balancing that made hd2 lose players, it was the game released and managed to hit fotm status and games that hit fotm status see very sharp drops in playercount no matter what because many people just quickly move on to next big game
90% of remaining people only give a fuck about more content and yeah people always come back when more content shows up

frosty herald
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the 60 day patch mustve been the wind then

twin wagon
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Unless the game doesn't work for 3 days because of a shitty anticheat that doesn't work and just sells your info.

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It really was and a lot more hellwhiners are waking up to it

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Specially after the recent buff/nerf, buff enemies and buff weapons

frosty herald
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please explain

twin wagon
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Since you agree to such in the Eula

scenic drift
twin wagon
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You allow the commercial use of the information gathered using this service.

scenic drift
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helldivers 2 has more than 10% launch players after almost 2 years?

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that is way above average

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then again I haven't turned that game on since launch months, since all my friends moved on kek

hollow needle
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ive been over the playercount argument a billion times arguing in the helldivers server itself, most of it was just natural early playerbase dropoff, some of it was other big games releasing at the time, and some of it was lack of very exciting new content around that time

scenic drift
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actually I lie, I turned it on to check something in july

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twin wagon
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I wish more games just ignored the player base

hollow needle
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games alive, that was in reference to the balancing thing

twin wagon
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Ignore players, release your vision of the game, banish

scenic drift
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so if game is alive, then the balancing can't be such a huge problem, no?

scenic drift
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and investors. evil_elmo_fire

twin wagon
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Total corpo death

scenic drift
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That would be a nice world.

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Not realistic.

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But nice.

hollow needle
scenic drift
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ultimately, I think baselining of Arbi so far, I think we'll see more overpowered stuff in the future kek

hollow needle
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granted EoF wasnt perfect but the devs swung way too hard in the other direction of balancing

scenic drift
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like if you look at it from c-suit perspective

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do you want 20k casuals who consume content slower, spend more

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or you want 2k hardcore players

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who consume the content in 2 weeks and don't even spend anything

hollow needle
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i mean yeah i cant really blame AH for having to make money when theyve got sony up their ass, but they dragged down the hardest content and made it all way easier

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i would have really preferred they left something with some proper difficulty but lord reddit cries any time they cant kill every enemy with their primary

twin wagon
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Total player nerf
Nerf all players

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Case about hd2, the fact the game at the hardest difficulty is Not allowed to be difficult is a crime

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we had a similar senseless movement here in dt with the havoc is a waste of time folk

mystic ether
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Plenty of people that say they want the games they like to have smoke can sometimes not actually be interested in any experience that actually changes how they engage with the game and are challenged.

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Wouldn't even call it a movement either, just actual brat whining.

gleaming siren
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did they remove the ability that gave you ability cd on backstabs?

mystic ether
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No

swift hearth
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people called me a temu zealot in chat

hollow needle
swift hearth
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bringing a hammer instead of signalling with knife you on adhd meds tfw

scenic drift
dull iris
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thank god it is like that

sterile stone
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Where the hell did you find this specimen

modern lintel
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being told i look like young ron jeremy/ jason momoa might be chopped

scenic drift
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one of those is not the same as the other CarlitoShocked

radiant raptor
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i dont think they look that similar

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but thats not... a bad thing, necessarily

mighty root
dull iris
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does puncture work with the explosions from the aoe boltgun

peak violet
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nope

dull iris
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oh the humanity

peak violet
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it would be so busted if it did xdd

sterile stone
opaque island
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good morning zealot chat, killed any heretics lately?

hushed bolt
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no, I've been on a skyrim binge

scenic drift
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hmm

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mk2 relic blade is so weird

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I wish we had a stamina replenish on kill talent somewhere, like no respite

obtuse stirrup
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I honestly don't get the new bolter

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The gimmick works for the pistol imo

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But on a full size bolter it feels like a mess

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People asked for an explosive bolter forever so we got one

obtuse stirrup
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Haven't tried it, but don't understand why I would want to

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Does it do decently against Crushers still?

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I guess I could buy it as a dedicated anti elite blob weapon

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I think it sucks personally

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I dont think you should mag dump crushers with standard bolter either

obtuse stirrup
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It not having an auto mode really puts me off

obtuse stirrup
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But blobs? Fuck yeah. More for the feeling than anything though lol

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Its inefficient to shoot them in higher diffs ime

obtuse stirrup
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I'm currently using it in Auric with tac axe and knives

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I'm taking it mostly for that usecase

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Everything else can be handled with other means at my disposal more efficiently

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But the Bolter having access to the ability to just shit a bunch of ammo onto a Crusher deathball and almost entirely eliminate it is wonderful

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heady rapids
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@sterile basalt @misty nova @long oasis

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nimble fiber
hollow meteor
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Wrong sticker cryThumbsUp

silver granite
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Can someone suggest a zealot build with relic blade?

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For Havoc 40

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sterile stone
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sterile stone
glad ermine
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Try both before commiting to one, see how you feel

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I find myself in IJ more

silver granite
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Thanks

glad ermine
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Welcome

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One last thing. I picked blitz randomly because i don't know what weapons you are using. Unless you stick to a weapon that could use throwing knives's utility, go with stunstorm

silver granite
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Don't know which ranged weapon tho

glad ermine
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Ranged is what matters for blitz, ik the relic blade part

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Hm

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Well

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My personal recommendation

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Is either

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Flamer + knives for blitz in this case

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Or mk2 revolver + stunstorm

proud crescent
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Hi, could somebody help me get shocking stuff penance?

misty nova
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So

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How's the REPO update

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Phenomaman or something

drowsy steppe
exotic plaza
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man mortis trial is fun

dull iris
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would be more fun if it had like

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3 more waves

exotic plaza
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yes

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also not being able to choose your build and pretty much have to rely on rng

dull iris
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me when melee psyker and i get offered the worst selection of garbage i've ever seen

exotic plaza
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my friend have like infinite lasgun ammo on crit then bro get 2 more of that

dull iris
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also psyker can get bonuses that deal in ammo (even if he has a staff)

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and i am not sure if his peril is considered ammo for those or

sterile stone
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Where the entire premise is making due with what you’ve got on hand

dull iris
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in rougelike games, you start with a blank state tho

exotic plaza
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yeah but in rl you can change your play style while in dt you already have your build

dull iris
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or at least in a state where you can pivot into some characteristic

exotic plaza
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so everything you get need to fit the build

dull iris
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if i go into mortis trial with a melee psyker build and i get offered ranged only stuff, i'm kinda fucked

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(or not, it's still not hard, but it's not fun)

exotic plaza
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also artifact in ror2

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just more fun

dull iris
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also not sure about it, but i think the stuff you are offered through the waves is at least partly based on the first choice

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literally one reroll for the entire match would fix this

proud crescent
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Hi, somebody could help me get its just a fleshwound penance?

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Friends asked me to reinstall DbD

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Lord help me

scenic drift
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friends don't ask you to do hardcore drugs again

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proud crescent
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Greetings, looking for help to get penance it's just a fleswound done

sterile stone
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Should be people in the lfg tabs who can help

proud crescent
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Ah didn't there was a whole lfg in here

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Thanks

sterile stone
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All good

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I've been playing DbD since there were 4 killers fwiw

misty nova
mystic ether
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mystic ether
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Now I just play whichever side I consider stronger at the moment

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Unless I need BP

mystic ether
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I just play ghosts. I'm not interested in engaging with mechanics. No more games, I'm teleporting/ghost walking through everything to get mfkers.

I'm just dogshit at advanced nurse.

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I main Pyramid Head nowadays fwiw

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Cause Silent Hill good series

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Cheryl on Survivor too

mystic ether
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Me everytime I get super got by some highlighter Mei (forgot the gamer character name)

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Feng Min?

mystic ether
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I just stack Mori and tunnel little shits when the game not going my way lol

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Fuck em

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The only survivor I truly and deeply despise is Claude

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Cause I played when 4 stack blendette was like

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Common

heady rapids
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the monsters are pretty fun

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but the servers are dying

mystic ether
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That shit was funny

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I loved claudette, the track star and pieces of what nea and...Jake had going

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But claudette way back was so good for her perks when the game's scope was far smaller

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I think I did like

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Do you remember when you could self care literally inbetween swings?

mystic ether
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Yes

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Which is why I never got mad when a nurse who was good enough to peep that would blow me up

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Deserved lmao

frosty herald
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If my friend wants me to install dbd id switch em down

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I mean honestly who the fuck asks someone to install DbD in 2025

sterile stone
mystic ether
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I was running like self-heal, adrenaline rush, the pain muffle from Jake and...I think perfect balance

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mystic ether
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Mhm

sterile stone
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Something about a lot of people

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Their voices just sound so

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Like so fucking annoying

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And I don’t wanna be a asshole and tell them

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Idm that, I just find discord random queues get real elitist

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And most of the time I do not want to deal with that

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I also hate when people dictate themselves in charge of a group

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Like buddy who died and made you king

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Tbf

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Its 40k

sterile stone
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It being 40k isn’t a excuse

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You gotta be doubly cautious in any space tangentially related to 40k or someones gonna start dumping completely wrong lore on you for as to why their dudes are actually the best

sterile stone
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There’s some legit awsome random people who’ve joined vcs I’ve been in here

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Like that one former soldier turned pmc

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Dude was a whole ass stranger who joined unprovoked

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sterile stone
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And we had the best conversation

mystic ether
# deft badge GTFOcord hard turned me off randomly queueing with discord people ngl

The elitism can be irritating yeah. Clout cretins with keyboards are...something.

The main hell no from me is trolls, bigots and creeps. Kids too but that's just cuz I'd rather kids just be kids with other kids online. Most I'll do is offbeat chaperone but after that match is done it's deuces. Crazy how the first three often work in combination

sterile stone
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I hope bro still in this server

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Im ngl I off principle hate someone who joined a PMC

sterile stone
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It’s funny cause I brought that up to him

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Though it was more about how enlisted soldiers dislike pics or “contractors”

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Tbh

glad ermine
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You will not hear the poxburster in vc because i will be taking about my drug addict gambler cousin from greece

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Ive genuinely never been happier in my life i didn't enlist than rn

frosty herald
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Theres a staggering lack of combat medic mercenaries

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Maybe i should enlist then do medic work in my 40s

mystic ether
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Yeah. Enjoy figuring out which war crimes you're down to commit ig

sterile stone
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I mean I’m pretty sure a lot of pmc docs aren’t in the field

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mystic ether
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Or just facilitate

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Enjoy doing nothing but mowing lawns and pulling security for ICE

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And/or killing civvies in Venezuela

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heady rapids
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????????

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mystic ether
glad ermine
frosty herald
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5k is good money

sterile stone
frosty herald
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I genuinely cannot picture the kinda person who joins ICE

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Like ik they exist

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But I can only envision a caricature of a human being

mystic ether
# frosty herald 5k is good money

5k is rat change. You can make 5k without stalking children and using them as bait. Or kidnapping elderlies and chronically ill ppl.

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mystic ether
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But I feel like someone who joins ICE has to be operating on the same level as like

mystic ether
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A cop

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It's just being a cop with even less oversight

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I was gonna say a arkham asylum henchman ngl

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But that works too

mystic ether
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It's best to contextualize them as realistically as possible imo. Shit way too serious.

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Well I mean if you want that I'd just call em what they are

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The gestappo

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ICE agents refuse to be identified, use unofficial vehicles on the job, and kidnap people
So why can't I shoot them out of fear that they are impersonators if they try to take me or a fellow upstanding citizen away

mystic ether
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long oasis
mystic ether
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They operate very well within how police violate they own laws so

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And the law regularly enables this shit anyway

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Like generationally

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It just may change the wording around itself. But the same cycles of abuse are still leveraged against disenfranchised people period, but especially the historically oppressed in this context.

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ICE dead ass has been terrorizing people the since forever the same way border patrol actively staffs people who have an explicit enthusiasm for using the law and its convenient gaps to just play with people's lives for sport

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I think it's crazy how technically all of my suffering is optional
I have a decent job, I'm set to live and spend as I please within reason without being rich, and I'm a white dude with blue/green eyes and decently blonde hair

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But uhhh I'm not a pussy or an inbred, literally or practically

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So I think I will take feeling for others over being that

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mystic ether
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White supremacy goes nuts. And one of its greatest tricks is convincing people that ppl have to be rural devote racists (amongst other shit) to endorse it

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That shit seems nice sometimes

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sterile stone
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And I’ve talked to people who I don’t even like on this subject

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People with hate that deep in their heart, they target the lonely and disenfranchised for recruitment

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They also target those who aren’t well educated

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mystic ether
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Blissful ignorance is literally one of the things that helps cycle these problems. People that have to take on bring targets of state fuckery don't get to just close their eyes and hope it disappears

sterile stone
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With an echo chamber backing them

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I really like the Ronny Chieng bit on this tbh

sterile stone
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People will fall for these types of gimmicks

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Idk where to find it not as a short tbh so have that

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mystic ether
# visual stream True, I just think it's childish to allow yourself to be so manipulated when the...

Well when it comes to how insidious the things that empower something like white supremacy or just fascism period, those movements and ideologies materially invest themselves with constantly eroding people's abilities to learn different.

In the case of white people, a dangerous sense of passive apathy, wilful ignorance and selective disgust/performative outrage are some of the easiest cards already incepted from a society that found a way to softly convince ppl who won't be the primary targets that saying the right things and moving within curated false lines can somehow make one incapable of complacency let alone cooperation.

sterile stone
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Making their stupidity someone else’s problem.

mystic ether
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Fascists take advantage of what's already within a given society in order to amplify that as the explicit logos fot recruitment

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frosty herald
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need to farm hunter symbol 3 tickets

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10 more is enough for gogmazios methinks

mystic ether
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Whether or not they're claiming to be leftist is just an icing on the cake of sorts. There is a point to be had about how that kind of roundabout white supremacy works but ain't no way I'm bringing that up further in a public discord. That's just reckless at that point.

heady rapids
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youre not even a horn player......

frosty herald
heady rapids
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i have a lot left still

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from like

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grinding to hr 500 (just playing the game actually)

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i need the hammer switch axe longsword heavy bowgun and chargeblade

frosty herald
heady rapids
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i play this game like dartkide

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just hop on and kill something

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dont even need any progress or shit

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# sterile stone I saw they’re doing a 5k signing bonus

yall better be paying me never have to worry about it ever again money if you want me to commit atrocities and even then thats if i completely changed as a person and removed my conscience to even consider doing it even for THAT amount of money

mystic ether
sterile stone
mystic ether
frosty herald
sterile stone
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So they’re in a target rich environment

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Cause that’s everywhere In the states

opaque island
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tbf i dont know for certain but it wouldnt suprise me

frosty crescent
frosty herald
heady rapids
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idk

frosty herald
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bladescale reload on artian would delete normal hbgs entirely

heady rapids
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i dont care for artian meta that much

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and for even more rng

frosty herald
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but ive shifted towards meta hunter with damage pumping

mystic ether
# opaque island yall better be paying me never have to worry about it ever again money if you wa...

See that's the thing, they're not operating on a lacking conscience. They dead ass think this shit is fire and want to do this.

Plus, it's not like America nor any other state with similar origins and interests that employ these tactics don't have a record of rewarding ppl for being scumbags.

People kidnapped and thrown into prisons and death camps/black sites are in places staffed with people being paid, tax dollars funding it, private corporations supplying them, etc.

opaque island
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artians are already miles ahead 99% of weapon choices

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idk what else they can do

mystic ether
# frosty herald they dont have a quota do they?

Yes. ICE much like police are just as much of a business as they are scumbags. It's a literal job after all.

The quota has shifted as well, partly in tandem with the administration's explicit goals.

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shift the meta even more in their favor? that would suck

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i think they said they didnt want to invalidate monster weapons

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so well see

heady rapids
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idk what it is then

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i like unique weapon skills

frosty herald
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doesnt seem like gogmazios will upgrade artians

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cause they already dominate with 3 3 jewel slots

heady rapids
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worst they can do is let them somehow get uniques

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or just give them even more upgrades lmao

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imagine 10 roll artians

frosty herald
heady rapids
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there's already purple sharpness as a skill

frosty herald
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we'll see

frosty herald
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dude has only seen honey thats been diluted with glucose

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mark my words

mystic ether
# opaque island tbf i dont know for certain but it wouldnt suprise me

Plenty of credible enough sources available to explain that. Take your time with it and prepare for the fuckery that knowledge illuminates.

Stephen Miller himself has been noted for actually being pissed that the projected quota of deportations and disappearances isn't going fast enough.

Part of that comes from ICE and DHS already being in the same place as standard pigs in terms of competency, but that doesn't mean that they aren't dangerous nor funded enough by the government to be able to continue their fuckery.

sterile stone
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Lotta the foods are highly processed

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You’re eating more chemicals designed to look like food than anything

opaque island
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ive unironically been told that honey is horrible for you, no matter if its the processed shit or not (or the animal rights angle of bees are kept in captivity) completely ignoring thefact that those bees are taken care of better than i am

heady rapids
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bees in captivity

sterile stone
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I know authentic honey is great

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But processed is horrible yeah

frosty herald
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bees in captivity.

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i have never read a more dumb fucking sentence in my life

dull iris
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will anyone think of the bees

opaque island
heady rapids
mystic ether
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Processed or not, the main point for lots of these fake health gurus is just pushing their garbage with fledgling/fraud science as their smokescreen to grift people and incept dangerous ideas on health and medicine period.

heady rapids
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mark my words man

mystic ether
frosty herald
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how do you put a bee in captivity.

mystic ether
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Learn about unethical beekeeping.

frosty herald
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IT LITERALLY FLIES AND IS FREE TO GO WHERE IT WANTS

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IT EVEn HAS A FREE NEST

mystic ether
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I guess you're being unserious on purpose nvm.

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Next slide ig.

mystic ether
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Bees are animals like any other, they can be unethically kept and mistreated

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I don't know what's so outlandish about that, we do it with a lot of animals that produce things lol why not bees

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Parcival

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Where’s the mad honey

opaque island
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here's a strawman for yall, asbestos is natural, so it must be good for us. lead is natural so it must be good for us right?

mystic ether
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They were being deeply unserious. If they wanted to actually know they'd just feed that curiosity. Dude is just clown stomping.

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opaque island
frosty herald
heady rapids
glad ermine
swift hearth
sterile stone
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Shoulda known that the moment you saw the vibe

mystic ether
opaque island
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THIS IS FRYING ME LOL

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Dude

mystic ether
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Greg's videos on mike

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Fucking cinema

mystic ether
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Like anavar mentioned

mystic ether
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That shit is. Rough on the nutrition angle.

sterile stone
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I don’t get the appeal of body building

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Like stacking muscles yeah

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I’m all for

wraith halo
sterile stone
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But going to the point of being a freak of nature is just bleh

opaque island
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honest to god, its either for the love of the game, or body dismorphia

wraith halo
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Yeah like there's a point where it stops looking human?

mystic ether
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Aesthetics from body sculpting via training basically. And well, entertainment industry shenanigans. Spritz of cultural admirations of strength etc.

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sterile stone
# heady rapids

I’m proud of my boy bulking up be he just looks like a volatile with hair now

glad ermine
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Could not get it up anymore, but unironically

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I could never

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Just wanted to try

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Literally, my body ain't built for that

frosty herald
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if i looked like a volatile id get mad play

sterile stone
mystic ether
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Wild stuff

sterile stone
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“Oh crystal ball tell met your secrets”

frosty herald
glad ermine
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I grew up obese so it was more like a challenge

sterile stone
mystic ether
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Understandable.

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Hard mode

opaque island
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yam, do you buy into the alpha beta stuff?

frosty herald
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bro was playing on vet difficulty

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mystic ether
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Messed up in certain angles for sure but understandable

glad ermine
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Thank god i got minimal loose skin

sterile stone
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I went from being called cute as a chubby dude growing up two like my early 20s

drowsy steppe
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fine shyt spotted

wraith halo
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I am a shrigma male

sterile stone
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Then when I lost all my weight, I got even more eyes and attention

heady rapids
sterile stone
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I won’t hold you

mystic ether
sterile stone
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The stares you get when other people affirm that you look attractive is like crack

mystic ether
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Not She-Hulk. I sleep.

drowsy steppe
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I just finished EP1

mystic ether
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Of what?

glad ermine
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That happened like a year ago or something

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Now i sit at like, 15% bf. I still like being able to see abs and vascularity

drowsy steppe
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I didnt kiss Blonde Blazer tho

frosty herald
misty nova
heady rapids
frosty herald
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how do people think its body positive to be morbidly a beast

misty nova
drowsy steppe
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you gotta slow burn the romance yanno

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Denial

misty nova
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Or excuses as to why something can't change

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I hit 300 odd pounds at some point in my life and went "enough is enough" tbh, i cannot imagine being larger

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My father is like that so ik it well

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@drowsy steppe could you send the shroumious sticker

drowsy steppe
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yknow

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if people find lizzo attractive

sterile stone
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then why do they get upset when i tell them they look like her

drowsy steppe
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tf is zeal chat talking about today

wraith halo
drowsy steppe
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Imma go back playing Dispatch kekw

misty nova
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Something something

glossy nimbus
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Farting

misty nova
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Gym shenanigans

glossy nimbus
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We talking about flatulence today

sterile stone
opaque island
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you cant ignore me higui

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you know im right

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mystic ether
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I mean. There's very real barriers to people being able to manage their own health. Even more so if they just happen to be fat in a way that isn't at all dangerous for them.

And in cases where their weight can actually be a real problem for them, they're already getting shit on and lied to often by opportunists

frosty herald
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theres this bodybuilder after a show

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and the dude grabs a whole tray of donuts smooshes em into a burger and munches on that

wraith halo
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Yeah my genetics make me fat in like a strongman way, some may even call it aesthetic

frosty herald
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that mustve felt divine

opaque island
glossy nimbus
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Real

misty nova
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sterile stone
opaque island
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and that leads down the people pleaser path, and by always trying to be liked by other people you dont have any solid foundation for what you actually feel and think

sterile stone
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That was my main motivation

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my previous work had me lifting 30-50lbs for the duration of the 9-5

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lost my covid pludge

mystic ether
opaque island
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@misty nova yennifer or triss

sterile stone
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Pludge

frosty herald
sterile stone
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1 second, my client walked in

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as a youngin i wouldve said triss, but as ive gotten older, i gotta say yennifer for a full relationship, shani WOULD be the pick but there is no full relationship possible with ehr for geralt

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cant trust yennifer

glossy nimbus
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THE GARDEN

mystic ether
frosty herald
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she uses necromany and is a liar

modern lintel
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whats up arc raiders

wraith halo
glad ermine
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Tbh I work out exclusively cause it's one of the only things that fixes my head

heady rapids
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the correct answer was ZOLTAN gentlemen get the fuck out of this server this instant

misty nova
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The fact that I know they're from The Witcher tells you enough

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Tbh I have no idea what they look like

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When I played Witcher 2 I hated it so much I did not bother with 3

wraith halo
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W3 is very different from w2

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People keep telling me that but I like playing game series

wraith halo
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Let me guess, the letho fight KEKW

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opaque island
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left is triss

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heady rapids
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if i played game series id have to play withcer 1

opaque island
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right is yennifer

heady rapids
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and i would very much rather kill myself

wraith halo
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The evil and weird witcher 1

mystic ether
heady rapids
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they recently said they designed the game to be played with 1 hand

opaque island
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the other left free for a mug of beer

mystic ether
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Which one is the one that had the messed up background with fucked up magic covens?

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Forgot

opaque island
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and then there's the unironical correct choice shani

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mystic ether
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I saw whatever that Netflix show was for it but never bothered to follow up with playing the game anyway

opaque island
wraith halo
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though she has is not always cold and angry

mystic ether
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However yen is more of a morally grey character than an evil one triss is just simply good

opaque island
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yen is very much a the ends justify the means

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Mhm. I'd have to engage with the games over time. Most I've ever played a game with a Witcher character was SoulCalibur6.

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Because Geralt was just that fun to me. And well.

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@frosty herald my favorite witcher game is monster hunter world

mystic ether
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He's not too bad to look at.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Yen is also considered geralts true love, they're bound together by destiny in a literal sense

mystic ether
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Rare conscious admittance in my case.

opaque island
heady rapids
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wuh

opaque island
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he's also experienced and handsome

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I mained Yoshimitsu tbh

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heady rapids
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Game geralt (especially w3 geralt) isn't super faithful to how he's supposed to look, in the books he's more plain and even kind of dour lol he's got a massive glow up in the games

opaque island
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yea i only know the games tbh, idk about the books

mystic ether
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i dont really respect the source material tbh

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considering you know

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the whole thing between the author and cdpr

opaque island
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i havent heard of this

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well that he didnt thing the witcher series would succeed and settled for a fixed paid amound

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then went to court when the games became a hit series

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lol

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unlike the metro author who doesnt care

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I have no idea what you're talking about I'm ngl

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I need to do my reading it seems

mystic ether
# opaque island he's also experienced and handsome

And more important actually follows through on certain principles. Not exactly the kindest dude, but not someone interested in playing games with people when they on some abject bullshit.

Dude can literally smell lies from people's behavioral...residue we'll say that.

opaque island
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it is around the time for a replay of the metro series i think

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perhaps

heady rapids
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It's kind of fucked up but he did sell the rights, it's like how Walter white sold the stakes he had in that startup that made billions in breaking bad

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Nothing he can really do about it

heady rapids
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i think he got paid

wraith halo
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That's even better

frosty herald
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I just know cdpr wanted geralt to romance the queen from the dlc

hushed bolt
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and then he prob got a bigger paycheck from the tv license

frosty herald
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But i dont have proof

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Iirc CDPR paid him a bit as a sort of compromise

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They didn't need to

wraith halo
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Also not to be rude to any Polish people but zloty is definitely a name for money

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I think the author suffers from being terminally polish. There is no joy in him upon recieving a huge award for his works

heady rapids
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yes

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Hey can I have 5 zloty

heady rapids
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it literally translates to golden i think

mystic ether
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Yeah idk who else i barely care about.

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Maybe the magic dude

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I don't really like the slower characters

mystic ether
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Ivy I suppose.

long oasis
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ł

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I'd main Taki if I didn't feel disgusting playing her

mystic ether
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She's not like not fun, but not exactly my playstyle for games like this.

mystic ether
opaque island
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the jiggle physics on taki are a crime against nature

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and i wouldnt have it any other way

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Taki's outfit makes me feel like I need to shower

mystic ether
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Just be great. Although at least in sc6 she isn't as crazy as she would be as a character.

opaque island
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its been so long, whos the blonde girl with the sword and buckler?

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she was my favorite, though i never played seriously only against computers

mystic ether
opaque island
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oh and nightmare, and his counterpart

mystic ether
opaque island
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Sophitia for sure, i knew it was a sophie name

mystic ether
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Cassandra way cooler to me in sc6 because they themed her really hard around magical girl shit and I love that shit anyway

wraith halo
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I'm really bad at fighting games

mystic ether
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And she's a fucking gorilla monster of a character last I played.

opaque island
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my brother always beat my ass with kilik

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fuck that long reach staff

mystic ether
heady rapids
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oh this was like when i was a stupid kid that just mashed buttons and didnt understand comboes

mystic ether
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Most Kiliks is cheeks.

opaque island
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id probably stand a chance now adays

mystic ether
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But but but but

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He's genuinely one of the coolest characters they ever made.

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And I love the polearm characters in soulcalibur a lot

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The ninjas, the polearm users, gotta be real and show love for Raphael and Maxi, Talim is fucking sick and fun as hell, Voldo.

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...look

carmine lance
opaque island
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voldo is for certified freaks

mystic ether
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My perspective on Voldo transformed as I got older.

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That fucker scared me to death as a child.

carmine lance
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He constantly plays guilty gear strive

mystic ether
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Fighting games are great

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It's just socially acceptable action figures.

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:^)

opaque island
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im gonna hit you with my 1 elphelt combo i put into muscle memory

carmine lance
opaque island
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its not even one from the training grounds, its homebrew combo baby

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has to be xrd rev tho

mystic ether
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WHERE'S THE PRESSURE

carmine lance
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I like more narratively focused games

mystic ether
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I want the smoke.

carmine lance
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Or at least ones with good gameplay in a genre that appeals to me

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I fiend for crpgs

mystic ether
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Elphelt is dope even if she's a bastard fr. Shooters in fighting games occupy a really interesting spot in my mind.

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/j

opaque island
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I am diverse in my tastes

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And arguably darktide has a narrative smile_strelok

mystic ether
# opaque island I liked that she wasnt JUST a shooter

Well that's the thing. A lot of people often see something like zoning as exclusively keep away when you have characters with zoning-friendly kits or explict zoning as their primary design. Elphelt is certainly capable of doing so, but her primary method of controlling space in thia regard is just pinning people down and blowing them up.

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Then you got happy chaos who represented a type of zoner that's rare as hell these days save certain franchises.

opaque island
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I used her ranged options more to annoy my opponent and force them in/make mistakes. i always lost against people that actually knew what they were doing though tbh, I maybe won 10/50 matches. im just not very good at fighting games

mystic ether
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Fighting games just take time. They're definitely a genre heavily predicated on players curious or interested enough figuring things out over time. The time sink is just much much longer compared to something like an fps.

carmine lance
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Also speaking of narrative, i got pathologic the other day

opaque island
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I hear it’s very difficult, so lets see how it goes

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And since we're talking about a format wrapped up in duels basically the majority of the time, you really just gotta look what's happening and figure it out at your own pace.

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like last seen 15 years ago

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lmao

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I did not I just knew I’ve heard very good things about the game

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random infodum p

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dont abuse power dynamics challenge (why is this impossible?!)

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just the studio behind it

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he has since left the studio tho

mystic ether
# opaque island my teacher told me i had good potential if I stuck with it, but they went comple...

Luckily, fighting games are in a sort of 2nd renaissance currently and this is coinciding with a scale and scope of information and players generationally developing themselves so the information age just juiced up people's ability to get better faster.

And plenty of modern games are much easier too and often are more likely to be designed in a way as to make the floor for the fighting game much easier to stand on.

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theyre currently working on darkwood 2

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excited to see where that will lead to

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Noooo spookwolf I’m going to be witch hunted now for buying the game!!!! (The singular dollar I spent will go towards the devs)

opaque island
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hot take, not every game needs a sequel, darkwood was perfectly fine by itself

carmine lance
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darkwood 2 looks more stalker esque

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like the beginning area of call of pripyat

heady rapids
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i cant wait to watch a 16 hour deep dive from pyrocynical on it

carmine lance
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I need to watch the trailer still

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whats up arc raiders

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IGN

Take a look at the Announcement Trailer for Darkwood 2, a top-down horror game survival game developed by Hooded Horse, Ice-Pick Lodge, and Acid Wizard Studio. Players will explore a dying sea to secure resources and establish a safe shelter while waiting for morning light to ease the danger. Darkwood 2 is coming soon to Xbox Game Pass, as well ...

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But I hope darkwood 2 keeps that like, bioarboreal aesthetic

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coming sooooooooon

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And the feeling of everything being just kinda, off

heady rapids
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not gonna play it tho

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I'm filled with dread at the thought of darkwood 2 cause 1 is so very good

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And it's been so long since 1 was like, finished

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Like there are people doing their best to survive, but nobody feels all mentally there

frosty herald
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LMAO

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I need to finish the game

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I got to the village

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how

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How to me?

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yes

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you mean gas bottles or sum

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||if you shatter them on the ground at night they kill anything that walks over them lmfao, it's really op||

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Night time always wigged me out because the sound design is genuinely on point

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Spoilers for moth

carmine lance
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Thank you

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Np, I like that game enough to think you should experience it properly

carmine lance
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I last remember being at a point where my next step was to explore the area with the third shelter

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Thats fuckin awesome ngl

carmine lance
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I know I killed the sow or whatever the right word was

frosty herald
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no more anoying ass dogs

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on brand

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do they despawn after a while?

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I havent played DW since like

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2019 or some shit

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I mainly watch people play it now

carmine lance
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I never upgraded to the gun yet

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So I’ve been shovel maxxing for a while

oak ice
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Lmao

oak ice
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Do you also suffer from severe lead poisoning (THIS IS A JOKE grungler )

heady rapids
carmine lance
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People are very strange in darkwood

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But that’s the point

oak ice
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It was pretty sick

carmine lance
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Please do not spoil

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OH I WON'T

mystic ether
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I am not that type of guy

carmine lance
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Much appreciated

mystic ether
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BBCF was fun though.

heady rapids
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I am more just saying it's a game a lot about it, but not my style. Never been survival typ gamer

mystic ether
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Hibiki is simple but fun.

carmine lance
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I enjoy survival horror

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mighty root
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Darkwood horror is more atmospheric ime

carmine lance
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I got sidetracked in the middle of genuinely enjoying it and never returned (many such cases)

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It never jumps out at you and scares you, loves to let dread build tho.

mystic ether
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@opaque island Your progress is relative, honestly. And it takes time to learn and apply things the same as any other kind of skillset.

And having a different mindset coming in can really help out with more self-defeating thoughts on your own development.

In reference to the swallowed convo on fighting games.

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Yeah I can agree with that

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That’s what wigged me out so much

oak ice
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It was a different one

carmine lance
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I very much have a fear of the dark, and generally the unknown in that sense

heady rapids
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i watched the whole thing with a friend

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it even has an interview with the devs at the very end

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So to fucking hear floorboards creaking, things getting moved around in the shelter

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I’m fucking cowering in the corner

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It oozes atmosphere tbh

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And it does it well

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I love games that nail atmosphere

opaque island
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I used to be afraid of the dark, but its more now especially in games like darkwood, the fear now comes when I KNOW there's something out there i cant see, instead of imagining things that might be there

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which darkwood is great at

carmine lance
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It’s why I’m so goddamn hyperfixated on S.T.A.L.K.E.R

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Which one?

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Series as a whole, but shadow of chernobyl and call of pripyat for sure

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2 also did good with the atmosphere

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I really like CoP for the gameplay tbh

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I know people bitch and moan about 2 but I think it was solid

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It was nice to see their vision of a whole open world zone realized

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stalker is scary until you get exoskeleton and turn into vlodymyr von

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king vadim

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R has never been scary to me so much as unnerving

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blowout soon stalker

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Horror is entirely subjective tbh

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I ran it on medium

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2 has plenty of issues but I think a lot of it is nostalgia goggles and the fact like half the player base has been playing some mod with barely any relationship with vanilla anymore

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I don't consider stalker horror but I'm sure someone does

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Jumpscare horror is so lame

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Like a good proper jumpscare I love

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But if your game is jumpscares so often I can predict them? Is bad.

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If a bloodsucker eats a human that drinks a lot, can a bloodsucker become an alcoholic

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The category of "jumpscare horror"

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Always blows

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Because it's no atmosphere

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I swear there is a joke in one of the games with that setup

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