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"Yo. Got a new mark. Looks like they found lavender and sapphron. Not gonna kill em. Not gonna miss out on the spice though."
people have been banned for worse things ig
After bro get his ass beat
Times is too desperate out uere
"Same time next week?"
but like theres a few people here who hate your guts im surprised they accepted your appeal
That honey bun is the reason this whole quadrant went up
You gotta go bro
I'm sorry
🔫
That shit really has me thinking tho
Like a really good cook in like a post apoc setting probably worth gold
What does that say?
lemme pull it up I wrote it down a while back
I can't read it (yet)
This mandarin script?
That’s only like 3 people
I'd like to at some point. That and Cantonese.
there are definitely a lot more resources for mandarin
Yeah...
I would avoid duolingo and things like that
😭
I know mandarin phrases
Duolingo at best is just mobile app flashcards
its good for learning a few characters ig
A marginal supplement for some languages but nothing I'd say that's stellar.
but what ive heard is best is just to try and immerse yourself after u have a good base
books and tv and such
Like I used it to just refresh on Japanese scripts when I studied it but I never saw it as a catch-all resource.
Gotta actually speak it and condition your brain to learn it over time.
Practice the writing etc.
Find access to some reliable books etx.
How so?
Lemme think on how to spell it
虽然我可能大部分这写字都不懂怎么写,但我都可以在电脑写出来
Mandarin looks cool written tbh
笔法 is not important anymore unless you live there and have to sign legal documents or something
I like how korean looks its more squiggly and curved
See thats why I don't like Korean as much
Except for the funny guy
you hate squiggly and curved writing?
I like how, idk, commanding mandarin looks
its very authoritative yea
I think Korean looks sick.. especially since it's in an alphabetical script
Ive heard that spoken chinese is harsh to foreigners
The way korean puts the graphemes together is nutty
Ni wu shui zhongwen ma, should be “do you speak mandarin?” @long oasis
nop
It’s extremely difficult on tone
taht would be cantonese?
depends on dialect
some dont give a shit and slur everything out
Korean be beating my ass on pronounciation.
and then they speak really fast so its a double whammy of being impossible to understand
All I know is if I'm ever in China I'm telling people my name is 威震天
I just haven't developed the the vocals for it so my brain just fumbles the brief time I tried learning some hangul from a friend lol
They teased the hell out of me for fucking up most words. 😭
ive heard u can read out korean words and then not understand them
which ig is also true of english
That sounds like the kind of thing one might get through a superficial understanding of a language via romanization.
u better pick the right one
no spoilers im just telling u this
im gonna say theres not a wrong choice per se just do what you want
for what im referring to
korean tone and cadence whilst learning another set of consonants for it is hard
but also I will instult you if you pick wrong
it was required linguistic work but i am glad i never must do it again
Ig i shouldn't say that
Guh
But Mandarin, Spanish, whatever form of Arabic I end up potentially floating to or picking up on, Russian, Swahili, Yoruban, Cantonese, Haitian Creole, Brazilian Portuguese, Tagalog, Thai would probably be my picks for a polyglot spread if I had things my way and had the kind of life I'd need to make that entire journey possible.
icelandic is a nightmare with pre-aspirated consonants
Like if I could actually afford to cloister up a bit and endure that kind of intense study I'd take it on to a solid degree.
Smaller goals rn is just getting back my spanish skills, picking back up on japanese, probably learning some variety of Arabic and Tagalog.
what languages do u speak currently?
Fun fact if you want know if someone is trying to talk down to you listen for how many Latin words they use
english, some weak spanish, and dotted japanese.
I cant trust yall mfs istg
I have an easier time reading some japanese compared to picking up on speech.
to not sway me to one side or the other 
Spanish has just been eternally part of my background and it's lowkey a shame I never tasked myself with being fluent in it and multiple dialects within that.
But I like being able to communicate with people and read other shit so breaking a language barrier is something I've valued pretty immensely. Plenty of familiarity with being around tons of people from other parts of the world who don't have english as a first language so I've just been exposed to other languages being thrown in by bilinguists and polyglots.
And also for travel in the future when/if I get the funds for that kind of thing.
Not really down to be in countries I don't know much more about at the local lived-in street level and not know how to speak and read.
That's just bad strategy at that point lol
if u know how to speak then you know how to read
by asking other people to read it for you lol
I mean yeah but I also just like having that self-suffiency.
Just in case I really need to help myself out or someone else in the moment.
true
Definitely don't wanna take chances with that kind of vulnerability if I can help it. Main reason why I even care about learning other languages besides it just being fun.
Zealot chat meet up
everyday we stray closer to a 2nd slow mode
Sometimes I like to look at the sun and wonder why I’m blind
Why would the sun do that to me
because you jerked off too much dog
What's a good keystone for chorus ?
Crit
No more spanking the monkey
no more monkey mode for you
something something light rays
cuz the sun constantly beams deathrays to the earth and it takees 8 minutes for it to travel from sun to earth (speed of light and all that)
but hey we have the atmosphere to thank for our survival!
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9e88a554-4683-4ec8-994b-3a493e2d2073/terrible-crit-zealot-build use this but change fury with book , and if you’re not using a push attack weapon you can take off no respite
but I need the death rays to produce vitamins
thas fucked up maybe the sun should think about what its doing
the sun's an opp
You ever think about how insane it is that we evolved to get vitamin d from the sun?
That's not a wildly common thing
is IJ not worth using ? That's what I'm currently running
Like cats iirc get all their vitamin d from diet
a lot of mammals can
Not worth really you get more cdr with crit
Cool, thanks

Aye but even among mammals its not all mammals
And it gets less common outside of us
Us being mammals
Ij zealots go to hell when they die just to remind everyone
Ij zealot is good
I mean it makes sense from a chemistry standpoint to use sunlight instead of stored energy for the pathway
Relic and ij are amazing
I have no exact numbers but breaking that ring is probably energy intensive
I just wish relic didn’t have the heat mechanic
no reason to not use sunlight especially if youre hairless in most places
fotf's speed bonus on top is such ridiculous att speed
it feels absurd for RB to swing that quick
I'm not wildly into chemistry tbh, so I don't know why or why it wouldn't make sense, I simply find it neat that life can synthesize energy from an orb some 150 million km away into nutrient for life.
One of the things that sometimes makes me stop and go "neat"
life is beautiful
Agreed.
did u know that most trees are in fact not particularly related to one another
@sterile basalt Today I learned eating rice noodles with plastic chopsticks is shit
Atleast when it comes to pho
but they all veered towards the optimal design for being lazy in the sun
Yeah iirc trees are not like, a clade or anything in the way we classify animals
plastic chopsticks is some heretical shit
convergent evolution
Yes we are
fax
Before you send me to the pyres
My order didn't come with wooden ones
Their fins and our hands, from a common ancestor
And I'm so accustomed to eating pho with sticks
Shit got so bad I whipped out a fork
I consider myself blessed to be able to interface with life in an era where information is so
Readily available
u should get ur own set
pill bugs vs pill millipedes
It came with my silverware pack
vulgar because they are stinky
marginata because they like living in the margins of my books
you gotta get either metallic or wooden man
wooden preferably
yeaaa that's why I prefer wooden
what if a freak accident happens and I die due to metal chopsticks
I'd rather deal with wooden ones eventually warping with repeated use and heating than crack a tooth lmao
yeah mine super long wooden cooking chopsticks look like some Doctor Seuss shit at this point from being near steam too long
yeah my larger set are getting to that point
the smoller ones are still gud tho
yeah
good question
kinda threw it together last minute
i looked hot though and that’s all that matters
it was like
weird cunty pirate knight
lol
I went for like a 7km walk yesterday to check out all the decorations
did some sfx too so there was blood on my face
and i tore up a top i found at a thrift store
it's pretty interesting seeing trick or treating for realsies
it's not much of a thing back home
why are you doing this to yourself
Bruh
Volgun is there there
I know fuck all about vtubing beyond the drama being insanely absurd
If you needed study noise
I need to know whatever it is inside that 1000 page google doc
is it any wonder that a lot of them choose to leave
but I cant be ass to read it
pls tell me u had a sword
fake news
This is what all weed drug smokers look like
@ivory marlin https://www.rxddit.com/r/PlantsVSZombies/s/zt6ylbt3LL
Who here like hip hop and Memphis rap 
What in the actual fuck? 💀
Vtubers are unjustified
Move on
Next 
Only exception is if someone does an Orgyn model
Aye
You ever seen them old school brick phones?
apparently far cry 7 got announced
the big ones like in the 80s?
Far cry 12 will be in post America civil war 💀
skill issue?
Far cry 15 will be in the nuclear fallout of ||🍉||
Got a question for ye zealot guys, is there a chain weapon or mark where its better to use a light or push attack for the special rather than a heavy one?
Wait we use chain weapons?
what the fuck is a chain weapon
The original tigris eviscerator mark. Chainaxes are also really good for it in particular.
Can be. you gotta pick things up with confidence and slorp that shit up.
Some weapon that struggles against crushers, idk i heard it from that mister e guy
also thankies
is the moebian 21st armor set given to everyone i dont remember when i got it
nvm it's a bug
false alarm
nah
play before nov 2023 PC
That ain't it
They don't hold right vs wood sticks
Like I've tried a few methods and because of the oil in the broth
damn the og armor and its ass 🥀
The noodles slide right off the sticks
huh
oh ok
You must fiend for them.
There is only one way
You try uh
Getting small bed of noddles and letting it settle before raising it up? Small gap
yog are you real or another night terror
the worst terrors are real
I'd be mad as hell if I dreamed about this place lmao
its called freak city la
I wouldnt I would be relieved
it would be proof that sanity still exists
cop or nah
This reminds me of when balenciaga tried selling ripped up converse that were like
This weird shit smear color
For like $3000
You all better not mess with Jimmy Big Balls and the cartel funny boys
what does this mean
ok
Do not mess with Jimmy and cartel
is that johnny bad woman
why is the maxtac helmet such a pain to get :(
because they hate you

My A button in my controller is failing
And my right trigger
And my left stick

Time for soyker
Tac axe and zealot is too rough on my controller

It’s bleak
It is?
maybe its time to retire
amazing lol
Can I buy that with fyre dollar
Look it ain't nothing personal. I'd just a rather dream that breaks my average cycle not be some discord server lmao.
Fym 800?! For a crochet dress bottom?
Know what it's not even crochet and I know but you basically got the tools you need if you just got draws laying around you don't want to wear no more.
Maaaaan
ghost dawg
I swear mfs with money just be bored and make anything
What up gamers and gamettes
It's real
Oh it's you!
Behold the first form
hey fisky
Chat I think I will play pathologic after I finish deadspace
i did !
shitty spirit halloween sword unfortunately
but a sword nonetheless
I did not slay anything but I had a big ass chainsword for my krieger fit
Pretty nice
you dont pay for the clothes you pay for the brand
not like anyone knows what brand this is but still
I know. It's just stupid to me to this day.
boing boing boing
sworg
That ain't me
you sure?
Never playing Darktide agaein!
goormy
@sullen forge goo bro solo'ed phase 4
Lmao
goo bro carry
goobo jr carry
who up arcin they raider
what do I put here
Thats a very italian looking arby
moustaische
It's a me Mario
I think the #1 reason I run that male pattern baldness hairstyle on smol character models is cuz of that ^ burn trauma scar option
Lol
it goes way up into the crown of the skull so having hair int he first place kinda kills it
the head augmentics really are some of the best options on offer
whoever actually sits down and does all the misshapen scar tissue and whatnot grafting the metal to the meat, wow brudder
well done
hope everything's okay at home
They should really add dwarves
^also the reason I run male pattern baldness on okri
heh since you mention, when I made okri day one I made sure to set his character height as one tick above the shortest option on the slider bar
cuz he's a DWARF
Okay I got my new PSU. I'll install it tomorrow. I'm tired.
What a nice lad.
Lol league of votaan I believe they are called in 40k
How it feels to have to buy a $200 power supply the day you get paid after an entire month of being broke
iirc they said they don't wanna do it because they'd be treading old ground and that it'd just be bardin in space as if that doesn't sound like the best thing ever
Artistically I get it
already they lean a lil too far in some areas, like with the pickaxe rollout
credit where it's due they rolled out three distinct weapons in one but coming straight from vermintide 2's with bardin
Until you get stationed in Markarth, then you gotta deal with literal heartless tree cultist
the reach belongs to the forsworn.
I mean hell, the day the game debuted and I made okri, I had no intent to do him specifically I was just makin an ogryn
but I was convinced the voice actor for the cockney ogryn voice was actually bardin from vt2
cuz they sound so similar
as soon as I heard what I thought was that dude's voice in darktide too my destiny was set
practically all of my time in vt2 was ironbreaker so I just kept the vibe rolling
very nice
I dunno if it's still the case cuz it's been a bit since I've used weapon customizations mod
but one of the weapon head options for most all melee weapons just attached a really large trinket, to where the weapon head would be
instant flail/morningstar
using your trinkets as the flail head option
yea im not sure what thats about
idk i dont have the mod but it couldve at least picked a more fitting trinket for the weapon
dude i would sell my soul rn for the welding mask n leopard pants
I'm stopping for today at act 9/10
on one hand i wish more weapon have vt2 moveset design
on other hand i wish there no weapon with vt2 moveset design
Jesus
I honestly can't remember if VT2's combos had any nuance to em at all
at least ironbreaker's stuff
I regret not full committing and buying the Wraeclast bundle
not the way you can slip in and out of heavy/light combos per swing like in darktide, anyway
The liberator one?
WCM had a ton of other cool model swaps, it just got to be too routinely crash-prone, like everywhere
Wait what
fun fact that^ trinket's actually its own little light source

It's a crafting bench skin
I didn't even know that
Look at the video preview for that pack
I mostly got the bundle cause it came with multiple copies of the game
And a few other things
god damnit I just talked myself into getting weapon customizations mod again
You get a dude that summons a canoe that has a bunch of dudes rowing it
I'm not at my main pc rn
So I'll check it after work
At somepoint
I won't lie
The Clast bundle is fucking BRIGHT in game
I found it
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Especially when youre in that castle area where you fight the werewolf boss
The back attachment is huge
I'm just running the armor set I got from doing the challenges last league in poe1
This is how it looks in poe2
Look at it tho
big sauron vibes
You also get to submit a unique for the twilight reliquary
I nearly did some ridiculous things once I found out cosmetics from poe 1 carried over to poe2
I saw some clean ass fits
If I had that bundle I'd probably throw in my headhunter cause I'm not playing poe2 until 0.4 anyways
went back to VT2 and realized how primitive the weapon movesets are
@lunar fable Wait can you still get the supporter bundles?
I swear I checked recently and there's new bundles
the only one with even thought put into it is Kruber's halberd
https://poe2db.tw/Microtransactions#Microtransactions idk if you got this link already but you can check which cosmetics work in both games rn
Those are different
You can upgrade anytime until full release
lil surprised yall aren't all fired up about arc raiders
played a couple rounds earlier, seems cool
@lunar fable I need the sin and innocence armor set
me me me me ee
Get to cosplay as big e in poe2
I am using the hairpin for fun and quick looting rn
Some of the cosmetics listed are from old poe1 supporter packs
just got one of deez
That set is available though
It is?
It's not on sale though
I own this entire set
this is about the best I can do in helldivers as far as a crossover episode goes
bikini armor headahh
They have daily sales from Monday to Wednesday
And then they have big sales that last from Thursday to Monday before reset
I like the other set more
but the dredd crossover is spot on, so that scratches the itch just fine
the robocop game devs could make a dredd game and barely change anything
I followed a guild member's advice ad bought inventory slots with the upgrade money I had
And never fucking used it

honestly you're not wrong
How many stash tabs did you buy
near future drug slums I guess get a lil blurry with the lines I guess
Bundle of 5 when they were on sale
I also daydreamed about a total overhaul mod for ready or not with the dredd pistol and his little roller mine from the karl urban film
You could just convert like 2 of them to merchant tabs now

Do they have a ton of slots
The quad tab is literally just taking a tab and multiplying the slots it has by 4 so you can put more shit in it
nothing beats the chrome and wrinkled aluminum space pants fire resist armor set though
I also bought these
I haven't logged in ages
I'd legit have to redownload
Oh
Dude
Dude dude dude
You could wait for these to get imported https://youtu.be/GFc9CycVxJE?si=As6kyH-bREdJCNL2
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How the fuck do you kill that golem boss in that sun building?
You know the boss you take a lift down to fight
And he's hitting the wall
Then lava pours out
That dude sucks on melee chars
I never was able to kill him
He's just a dps check
Was a ranged gemling legionnaire
People usually just go back and kill him later
Cause the reforge bench is whatever early on
Guessing level 56 is a bit too early to be trying to take him on
I'm ngl I don't remember the area level
You only have to kill him once per league anyways
Did you play this league? Cause cruel difficulty is gone
i always love this clip
its evidence that you can quite literally parry anything bare handed
I have been fucking swamped with events in other games, moving, and work
ok but whats the meta stat distribution and moveset for unarmed ??
I feel like if I joined the league rn
I'd probably not catch up in time
Or get bored midway through and drop the game again
Ngl the league is kinda dead with the new poe1 league
so do i dump mobility ??
But the campaign is gonna be a lot better the next time you play
Whens the next season start?
yes
Uh
Merc main forever.
Leagues are usually 3-4 months
you dont need to dodge attacks, its better to just parry them
I made my own build this league and last league and blasted through all the content
Is that staff build for legionnaire still good?
I think I posted a few clips of my nade build this league
Nah they gutted it last league
true
@sterile stone I couldn't find my other clips but this was before I got a juiced xbow
And I was prepping a sekhema run to carry my friend
That's a grenade totem btw
Anyways I'm gonna go sleep so I can finish up my campaign in the morning 
I audibly went "Holy shit"
maria deserved that cuz THEY STUPID
also whats that CLEAVE!! text pop up about
an overhead occuring in the proximity i set
mostly for silent crushers, maulers hiding behind walls of ogryns, or "wake up some idiot might drag an overhead into you"
cuz i have it set slightly further than default
meeeee
aah ok 
is that from spidey sense
i love dragging overheads into teammates
yes
its the only part i still actually use
and its mostly for those edge cases
be careful someone is gonna call it a cruutttchhh
I feel like ass
willow stop 
majority of the time its pointless cuz i can clearly see the overhead
Maybe chugging Smirnoff and smoking weed wasn't the best choice I just woke up dried out like a rasin
it’s fuuuuunnnyyyyyyy
sex joke here
i still have the trapper burster and barrel indicators from that on too
but i completely and totally ignore them still
Stinko
visual noise ahh mod
aawwwwooooooooooooooooooooooo
The guy ranting on the forums about mods being "cheating" but not his mods
His mods was good
cuz its like a repeating pattern where
I see the CLEAVE!! pop up on various different clips and DT players
and I keep thinking WHAT IS THAT EVEN SUPPOSED TO MEAN
yeah it is ignored 99% of the time
the 1% of the time it matters is when you dont expect it to be there
maria probably needed it
uuuh is it because its all mountains and forests
I still cant believe beebooboobop got ragebaited over a joke comparison 😭
androgynous creature
you have lost, for i have depicted you as the raging bald man and me as the nonchalant earless puppy
i have depicted you as the raging bald twinkdeath man and myself as the under 25 twink
I'm so mad I missed this stream
true
pregnant
I need to do important things tomorrow can someone hit me over the head with a rock so I can sleep
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Engage with something passive
Maybe something that's interesting enough to pay attention to, but not hype enough to passively inspire you resist sleep. Turn off your blue light filter if you're on your phone as well, turn off those lights in the room if you're able to.
Consider melatonin 5g if you can purchase it.
Oh yeah I'm gonna do all of that rn I just suffer from insomnia and always have
Sometimes, I'll watch some video I've already seen that I already like about something educational and handy. Can "bore" me to sleep.
Insomnia weird. I can't say I understand chronic situations at all, unfortunately.
I can't say I've acutely experienced it either. But sleeplessness for me is usually a matter of attrition.
Oh wow those are baby numbers
If you can help it, maybe try not eating anything either too. Especially avoid stuff with protein, any kind of citrus or caffeine in any amount, etx.
aaah the days when histg just came out
Erm just go to havoc you hardcore player 
Nothing ever happens
Only powercreep

I haven't played dt on 3 months I thought you were playing Heresy
wtf
What did Fatshark do


At least zealot and veteran and playable i guess but by the cost of powecreeps
I rather have boring samey builds than those numbers in auric
No talent nodes build
@sterile stone the type of bios I find in the wild
I can't even shoot my powercrept teammates like we did with the elf in vt2

Why shoot when barrel funnier
Also get the agro on crushers so you dodge the overhead and let the teammate eat it as they can't dodge
I had a 3M gloriana auric hisg non event non mael -_-
While you were busy making friends, I was honing the art of arguing with strangers online until they get bored
You think 10% melee damage increase or the 10% melee speed on push attack would be better?
I feel like APM would give me the edge but having to do the push attack to get it feels a bit... Gimmicky, having to weave it into my attack pattern, I haven't gotten to a point where it feels "natural"
Oh dude, that one guy gave like
THE MOST roundabout insult EVER
"i hope you find something you enjoy, you remind me of those chinese bhopping cs:go players"
Screw that guy, you were great lmao
How do you extend your scoreboard like that btw?
Depends
That's less of a gimmick and more of a conscious self-rewarding feature mounted to a fundamental part of play through a talent.
Weapons like crusher and relic blade have push attack heavy combos that are used a lot. So you get a lot of atk speed benefit there
Gimmicky in how I just need to "get used to it"
It'll feel unnatural on weapons where you're forcing the pa in situations you wouldn't use it really to gain atk speed benefit
Makes me wonder if I'd get more out of the 10% dmg, since I already run martyrdom
That's not a gimmick then, that's just getting used to learning how to weave something else in.
At that point just take the % dmg
I feel like it could be nice if I run it with MK II instead of X, since the stab feels a bit like a waste when I'm cleaving hordes
Love MK II for the event that spams crushers/bulwarks
With a conscious edge to it. Shoves and push attacks are already just a core part of the gameplay. You juicing your attack speed from a basic act of making space for yourself just gives you a snappy method of counterattacking.
Thats true
Stab is good for picking out targets in mixed hordes when you need, good finesse multiplier
You can work it in fairly nicely
But it is much more natural for the horde clear combo on the mk2
Or y ou can run skitarius 
It's just a matter of whether or not you want to supplement a defensively minded aspect within your build. One that requires, and I mean no shittalk I'm just saying, your conscious choice to have that as a feature within your build via talent choices.
Even if it may not be 100% necessary, you're not really putting yourself at a crazy loss for that. If anything, you're just dumping something a little extra.
A personal criteria for me is whether or not pathing towards certain talents I want sacrifices talents that I may have greater need for. After the talent rework, zealot gets access to little treats like that and it feels good for weapons like a crusher in my experience or variants of a relic blade/eviscerator mk15 build.
And if we're talking about relic, that talent alone juices up something that relic always loves which is more attack speed. Considering the talents that can be taken along that path and on the sides of it, I'd say it's a fine pick, especially for a more defensively minded playstyle.
Zealot feels good as a melee specialist the more interactions it can leverage from fundamental melee. Loading that stack is dope. The only other class I can think of operating like that but to a much wilder degree is arbites.
Ooo, thank you for this
Zzzz
I do push a fair bit, so being able to capitalize on it and encourage it in such a nice way is neat, I'm at the point with my build where I'm wondering what other little tricks I can do to 100% optimize it since I've been using it so long
Ew wtf
shrug, if you enjoy combo mechanics, you don't need to use it.
thats 90% ovenproof
Shit urself epic pole
i have most of it set as ovenproof and a tiny bit of the og scoreboard still on there
Ohhh ovenproof is another scoreboard
its an extension to the og scoreboard
needs it to work

well, I haven't heard anything changing from this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/ywqnh0/darktide_reviewer_but_do_remember_that_tide_games/iwnkpvg/
so unlikely

Is it just autofiring a macro or something? Not interested in using, just curious how that even works.
you can set it up to repeat certain attacks, in a pattern
f.ex.
This reminded me of the other day, I saw someone using a third person mod that gave him this insane situational awareness, and I thought it looked really neat. But I REALLY dont like mods like spidey sense, or wallhacks or whatever, and it made me wonder if it was kind of the same caliber as I watched him dodge like every single mutant coming from 20 different directions, or its more of a grey area/personal preference
Until fatshark says something is not allowed, it's allowed.
My hearings not the best so while I can usually hear things, like pushing a dog behind me or crap like that, if there's something nearby, whether its left or right or behind me, it all sounds the same to me
You're free to use or not use.
the 3rd person mod makes it really rough to be accurate in melee tbh, and the animations look completely different so youd really need to remember where you are in your combo by heart
Well yes, if you think something is unfair, then you don't need to use it.
3rd person mod is really cool, but too janky
I don't know if it is or isn't, I'm on the fence about it, and wanted to know what other people thought
I use everything with no remorse.
i think the game is better played in first person
It is made for it ye
i think 3rd person puts you at an active disadvantage
I'd actually be curious to see how a 3rd person view feels to play. I do just like 1stp pov a lot. Has a very different effect on immersion to since we gotta aim melee.
It may have been a very selective example, it was a wide open area in Mortis Trials
i have 3rd person as a toggle mostly for when lobbies are getting boring
They could've just had a ultrawide screen
And he dodged like every single mutant and had a bead on every single one
and/or spidey sense showing incoming directions
Even with my fucked hearing spidey sense would make me feel dirty lol
why?
Same with wallhacks, Executioner Stance vets are wonderful to have in my lobby and I don't want to also rob myself of that joy when I find myself playing with one
You think deaf people should be at a significant disadvantage?
I'm not deaf
Just a little messed up
If I was, I'd probably use it yea
But thats more of an extreme example lol
so put in earplugs and use spidey sense
or disable audio in-game rather
I think spidey sense is pretty overblown
What's the exact purpose of it?
shows a direction of incoming specials, similar to sound
Minor mod but huge info change. I can see where people can find use for it and that's fine. Same as autofire.
I think the cleave/net warnings are far stronger than the direction assist.
Direction assist sounds nice, but I wouldn't use any of the warnings
I do want to grab that one mod that shows what debuffs enemies would have, that would be awesome
But alas, time for work 
I don't have much of an issue with blind dodging but I think that's just me having so much experience with these kinds of games at this point that it's real shit just baked in. The only time I really have an issue with that is when audio skips for any reason or unique situations like me tunneling on those big mutant waves during a horde event and specialist brigade.
I just like how psykernautics lets me make priority targets the color I want 
It makes lights out largely irrelevant as a modifier though, even more than nameplates
Having that would make those kinds of situations less of a problem. That's the case use for me until whatever could be done to remedy any audio issues with the game that might be at play.
I distinctly remember a time during one of the closed betas where trappers were only really quiet in their roaming. Tide games and other horde shooters from the past picked up on the necessity of isolated audio cues that are definitely meant to tell the player what's up.
but lights out is literal ass, so I don't care 
Just paints things by default or is this something like changing the color of something like disrupt destiny? I don't quite understand.
I love lights out and power outage or whatever the fog one is. It's fun.
Gotta say.
Under those specific circumstances, zero moralization fr, this hurts me a bit.
I love counter-fire on exestance.
You basically just told me you bought jerk chicken, a food I've grown up with directly and told me that that grocery store slop was divine. Damn.

I really.
I really got blasted.
Damn.
I've been in this vet chat for years.
Going on about my obsession with exestance.
And now you show me the mod.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
If you hadn't seen the mod, you'd be better off? 
Or will you be tempted to technoheresy and install it to try out on other classes? 
This is the monkey paw on my enjoyment of information powers and tech in games.
Mephisto, you motherfucker.
whenever I forget to enable mods after a patch, I am shocked how weird it is to play without knowledge.
whenever i forget to enable mods after a patch, i die of cringe
quite crazy when you remember spamming dodge actually makes you jump without mods
wdym?
Well yeah. All jokes aside i talked about last night. Information can be small but information is always something that can be expressed cumulatively.
Games like this favor stripping down information for the sake of immersion. This can enrich players with an experience, provided their execution is able to meet their imaginations and limits of the game, you get that extra kick of feedback satisfaction.
Exestance is a great example of what an ability entirely devoted to information, but on a timer relative to the vet's ability to actually play sharpshooter or shooter period in a game entirely designed around being dark as fuck with trite very brief sprinkles of information.
Think of the visual tells you get from shooter units.
if you press dodge more than like once, you just jump after one dodge
Isn't that like a setting? 
or well I have dodge on m4
and I don't jump when I spam it
You have to do it within the wrong cadence to pull it off. Can happen
Forgot how mods for that work but that's been a thing since vt2 iirc.
btw how bad is tacaxe against carapace
and is the finesse modifier enough to offset it

ah so they are just dumb
so I've never had that issue since I bind dodge on m4, I guess
its pretty good into carapace
it has a fair amount of its carapace damage in its crits, but you should already be leaning into crits with taxe anyway at least a little bit
with a max taxe youre already at 17% baseline
before scourge or piety
of course with carapace i mean crusher
how many swings does it take on average to down a crusher
i dont have an exact number for you but i can just show you
sure
I don't know how this game logs inputs, but the reason that can be happening could be the window where your character is technically neutral so the next spammed out dodge in this example would just be logged as a jump.
This kind of thing is easier to feel when dodge counts are exhausted and diminishing returns for dodge distances get shorter, worsening the consistency.
That's more of a principle of how commands are registered. So mods that get into that and slot themselves in to cover that input can negate that from happening.
yeah i get that but there is no reason that should be the case
That would be a reason and that doesn't have anything to do with oversight or neglectful design choices.
it has all to do with oversight and neglectful design choices
A principle interaction of how inputs work when someone is executing something isn't really on a developer team's head though? The same things can happen in other genres of games on totally different scales.
uh yeah, it shoudl be on the developer team's head
they don't just stop at how inputs work and call it a day
I mean, you wouldn't be getting it without more conscious dodge timings.
stopping you from jumping would be a QoL choice and that's also what the developers do, occasionally
i wouldn't be getting it if they fixed it
because there is no reason why you would be jumping if you spammed lateral dodges
It's genuinely something that's just passively avoided with conscious timing. You genuinely need to be mashing out dodges so much that you're just jumping because you're not faster than a mod covering for that.
yeah i say that's horsedung and get a mod instead
so wait, you have dodge on space with jump?
You're dodging at the end of a dodge's recovery man, that's just how an input works.
yeah
huh, so weird
I've been using m4 since vt1 
it works well when mods fix the dodge system
theres a valve hardware survey going on
that's m1 spam right?
i usually do heavy push heavy light on the gold taxe
yeah seems good enough, i will make a build
god gave you 2 hands you should use both of them for your weapon
i can smell the ds from here
But back to the other mod yeah. Mods that do info are huge as hell. Some smaller than others but you can just completely swap the ui the game already has in the first place to where you just have a constant stream of information at all times.
I'm whatever about it. I think whatever UI design they have going on has other reasons for existing which is fine but a ui change up in certain regards isn't bad.
btw what mark is this
7
I personally never saw much of the use in it for a game like this. For an mmorpg sure.
i wonder how many skyrim modders just reupload body sliders and call them different
¯_(ツ)_/¯
quite useful to have when you have to know when your scrier effect is going away
it's not quite obvious on the normal ui
ngl, coles UI setup is kinda wild for me
I'd filter only important buffs and have the rest lower or hidden 
I just hear the sounds and just remember the countdown the moment I get to 100%.
that's the normal scrier
there is no sound for it for the 8 seconds after if you take the talent (and you should it's great)
scrier buff tracker is really really useful, if you're not someone who has good internal timer sense in your brain
i just dragged the buff bar below the other stuff
thats all i did
Yeah. I'm saying that that's just memorizing a timer after getting myself to 100% as my reference.
i also could complain for ages about how they just kept buffing scriers with shit that it didnt need
I'm not saying it's not helpful lol. I'm talking about what i do to keep track of it.
1000 billion buffs to scriers
needs 50% dr
actually kms
Good.
Scrier juiced. Wallow.
i really think it's getting a DR buff in the next update, when it's surely getting buffed again
Yep. Juiced. Gaming
good, psyker too squishy 
Move out the way. :V
I need to be able to tank overheads.
people actually still think that
Kill them first
that psyker is still the most fragile class rn
it is, if you skip certain talents 
every class is the most fragile if you build them like youre missing your frontal lobe
you have to consider the average darktide player
I make my psyker out of wet Bible paper because I reject health and damage resistance. Don't need it too badly.
the average darktide player still stumbles onto good talents occasionally
But psyker also just isn't out here crumbling like that. Especially not at this point.
hell its kinda hard to NOT get a fair amount of them
those people should explode
psyker converting 25% of all damage to peril is absurdly strong
you have to know what the good talents are to avoid them with such accuracy to make psyker squishy
Right tree psyker shenanigans don't really care too much about losing out on resistances because you're just italicized at all times.
And the defensive losses aren't crazy steep imo.
they use smite so when enemies actualy reach them they fold
smitekers amirite
All I want is power sword for zealot.
Or at least sunder for relic blade, would be a start 
You're basically fed stacking defensive utility from stuff like EE, right tree killstreaks using peril gen to toughness gen bonuses.
And well, right tree psyker can just be fast as fuck anyway on top of all this with high mobility and finesse weapons. The swag is just right there waiting for you.
but why
the powered mode already has armor cleave
any good melee on zealot is just a recipe for disaster
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I like my bullshit patch runs. Usually when they're over with, whoever the culprit was is still stable.
thats the problem
theyre never over with in darktide
if something is busted as fuck, it just stays that way
btw for tacaxe perks and blessings i'm guessing carapace/flak and Brutal Momentum/Shred right?
Great, I love killing heretics effectively.
bm/headtaker
true i forgot headtaker was there
yup
strength so its multiplicitive with alllllll of the damage you get
so its big value
is there a weapon that gets brutal momentum but doesn't want it
hard to balance universal weapons since some classes can boost them into being too strong
Just about all the dumb shit in vt2 is spread pretty widely as well so I'm not exactly too worried about it. There aren't many things that are just out the bin completely unusable there either, even less popular choices.
some people argue power sword
right, you already have cleave there and one blessing is mandatory
P.sword can live without it. Feels better as a choice for a setup that's really hard for horde cleave on the mk3 or whatever. Not necessary though.
A player just having better rhythm and buffered block cancels (or mod it in) is already going to likely be faring just fine if they want to do that sort of thing. Everything after that is like, idk shoving judgement, swapping weapons as desired/necessary, weaving in nades, etc.
lets give zealot powersword guys!!
You know damn well most people coming back after that patch are going to be getting hit out of power ups and flailing out with juice less lights and run back to reddit and YouTube comments.

cole show that havoc 40 with force sword zealot
I'd still like a polearm on zealot. I can only pretend with crusher for so much.
whats that you wanted hunting glaive on vet?
That's fine too
i "think" sororitas can use power halberds
Stick with sharpened tip gaming.
I'll take a chainguando fuck it.
Chain machete even.


