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Steak joints out the ass aswell
But it's mostly suit and tie places
And I don't care for suit and tie
Best thing tho is my place has a balcony
And if I want to
I can just brew a cup of coffee
And go out to my balcony and watch the lake
Or the shopping center
Living next to downtown with a roommate who liked to party was a good fucking time ill tell ya that
Chicken and booze in walking distance? Sign me the fuck up
For sure, that's what I enjoy about living in the city
True
But I mean I'm not going clubbing or anything every night so.
Pregame, walk out and have two beers at the bar, hit the greasy spoon on the walk home was my go to
just buy a bottle
for the morning life
drink every start of the morning
Not much of a drinker.
bah
Coffee is probably the main thing I indulge in besides tea and water
With Bailey's?
bailey?
i just get what ever i can
plus i like to drink neat
not much up for mix drink
Here's how shitty my ac condenser was by the end
It stopped working the correct way around so I just flipped it over and kept using it
wtf is that
Orkish ac unit
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thought this was a trash can for a second
Understandable tbh lol
Fair enough
Lmao
Ohhhh btw
I forgot to mention right
Downstairs of my place
Cause oddly enough the 2nd floor is technically the 1st floor
The hell does this mean.
On the ground floor we have a little hang out area with two grills
So we plan on buying a tomahawk at some point and grilling one up in celebration
literal batman face
look like finn
needs a bigger gut
Clearly it means you must rewatch all of skibidi toilet
Adventure time, come grab your discord mods
bro built like petetronic
trve
Hell yes that sounds hype
Hell yeah, we're just trying to experiment with new stuff
Made a promise we'd try to branch out on things
New place, new area, new mindset type beat
pacifist divers
Devil's claw build?
Place it gently on the ground and pick up a dueling sword is typically what I see recommended these days
Genuine question but what have people been using with the assault chainsword? Been hearing positive things about it in a way i never expected. Are people utilizing bloodletter with it?
man had the pre overhead ready

and you cant dodge teammate attacks
I legit had that happen to me earlier but my teammate was the one who ate the overhead
Last I used it was with blazing piety before the tree changes. It was good enough up to aurics so if nothing changed in a way to jeopardize that, generally synergistic BP builds taking fotf and other core classics might be enough.
Forgot the mark and perks/blessings I used unfortunately. Not at my pc.
I was hitting a crusher about to overhead, i tried to stagger with punch but not enough and the crusher nearly hit me, dodge and it hit my teammate on my back lmao
Chat I need an opinion, I got a shit ton of clay and can easily make a pure brick building, Do I build in the Ravine off the sides of it or above it seeing that is basically where I get my materials from
Just crit build
Nvm i cannot just not hate this weapon
Dcalw is flak maniacs
Wrath shred
Dump mobility
brick ravussy
sorry
that was uncalled for
You can change stam on crit for something else
I tried for a while and it just never felt like it did significant damage, but that was a few buffs ago
Notice its always 4chan
Must be him who posts it all the time in alt accounts
@plush estuary can i see your tree for melee psyker i need a better reference
Honestly just some of the most miserable mfers are on 4chan
im just nooticing a pattern here
from far away your pfp almost looks like mimikyu
check gameslantern
sounds scary
Scary evil shark with skull
you do look evil
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hope he wipes out everything
is there a mod that lets you take damage in meatgrinder for martyr testing?
creature spawner
mods, pull up knify's BAC
BAC?
blood alcohol concentration
i have been drinking rhum from the bottle
shit has barely scratch the surface
i wish i still had whisky
i need my 45
at the least
Wild Turkey is a fun whiskey
is this true?
She wild on my turkey
I liked it and it's decently strong
turning your hammer into a walking warcrime
ngl i dress like that when i go out
i like suits
she wild on my turkey til I DUI
hi back
I need to play knife zealot again, I am very unhappy with my performance earlier because I know I’m capable of better
Made very stupid mistakes
maybe next time
imma hit the town
and get another bottle
also a shower
oh ey i have a bottle of glenfiddich
@gray ice
Where ya even get wooden handled pans these days
Not that it's an issue if you have electric or induction
Roommate bought a set for like $20
Non-stick
Good deal for pans for sure
what would be a great deal for pans
I avoid anything nonstick like the plague these days because I don't trust the teflon family
Erm free pans I guess lol
Got a couple shitter pans when I first moved out for like $2-5 each from the thrift store
what about the greatest deal
do you think its happened yet?
the greatest pan deal in history
Lasted me until I had enough to get a cast iron pan and stainless steel set
The deal of all deals?
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Unsure about the ones in the picture but faux wood nonstick pans shaped like that are around for cheap.
Not bad honestly given better kitchen habits for maintaining tools.
Cast iron still goes crazy. Haven't had access to one in a minute and I've had people commit heinous acts against cast iron and cheap woks that could inspire action from an international judiciary committee.
Chat...
What if I never feel love bc of the restriction on meself
My self hate is stronger then I
Seeing an alright economy wok look like the back of a seasoned ps1 disc is fucked up.
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Marcus got stuck #roflgator #vrchat #funny #memes #funnymoments
Glenfield taste like ass
Look like a floating rosseti chicken
You'll have to go through whatever pain of unpacking and unlearning what's promoting that. It'll always be better with sincere support but patience is going to play a massive role depending on why it's as deep as you claim it to be.
Self-loathing sabotages romantic relationships just as much as it sabotages platonic, familial, whatever types of relationships.
The longer you take with facing that, the worse it'll get and louder it'll express itself in your life. Using the self-awareness you have to even recognize that there's a problem is a powerful start that shouldn't be taken lightly. Embrace that desire to want to be in a place where you can let that kind of love in so when it's right there in front of you and many other things are better, it can enrich you further.
As much ad I love my family
It feel artificial
It feel I was born with it
It feel force
I know myself as a arrogant being of ego
I will never truly leave that thought
How much I mask it
It will always be there as a pure doubt
Ainz never sent me his tac axe build on zealot
I deserve nothing but death
However I only stay so I can pay back

I wanna get a cast iron but I ain't holding cast iron money
chat im genuinely evil
I will never get out of what's arleady taken advantage of i
ive gamed so hard i dont need focus and use the keeping sway to increase hammer level
People are capable of great change, even if they themselves are so certain that change from within isn't achievable.
A fatalistic perspective like that actively denies the fact that because you're a human being, the constant state of change you're always living with can't be applied there as well. It's a self-perpetuating myth that can be reinforced externally by your background, conditions, etc.
That especially means that it's worth acknowledging that you know yourself enough to know that you changed to get to where you are now to even question whether or not it's possible.
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@heady rapids
Awh its stimming
The main thing here is a combination of having the support of people who care about you enough to help you with that, while also being real enough to challenge what can be keeping you locked in that mindset. On top of that, you yourself have to be willing to take on that struggle and to keep remembering why you actually care enough about yourself to want better without continuing the cycles that harmed you too.
The longer you deny yourself that chance, the easier it'll be to settle into artifical complacency. The world will only have to do so much because you'd be doing it to yourself that much harder by design.
I need them not know I feel pain
I must not worry my family
They sunk too much on me
cant answer rn playing dogshit
Gettin down in the new spot I see you
share the recipe brother
I need me some good knife build, the one im running is annoying the shit outta me
Issa texas dry rub blend with lil bit of salt added in
@mighty root
What are you looking for
a what
@calm charm piety or ij
The same cycles that harmed you can end up living through you the longer you don't allow yourself to face it.
You're already describing things that point to that self-awareness to know that something, whatever you know it to be, caused great sustained harm that pulled you into a place where you're far more comfortable with throwing yourself away while also wishing something was different then.
Surely so, the past cannot be changed. However, understanding that past in as full a view as possible makes informs the present that wants to promote a better future.
In cases like this, telling yourself that it can't change disempowers you the same way what was done to you disempowered you to do better by yourself. You're adult, a lot has changed within you. Circumstances may be more daunting but if there's any chance to crawl out of whatever hole you're in is just step closer to finally being able to walk.
Drink some water.
Doing it yourself is harder then helping
But I do know if I stand true to this thought
Which is why eventually finding those people is a good idea.
Doing it solo is extremely difficult.
A paradox
How does find friend when themself can force themself to make some
Be not scare of failure i guess
I wish I was hammered in metaphorical senae
They work great for eggs but everyone i know that has them uses metal spatulas and whisks and they're just scraping up and eating that coating 😨
The Glenfield taste like a cig
it must be ahead of us lest the universe be only in a downwards spiral
I got one for Christmas ngl but you can supposedly find the shittiest possible one at the thrift store and just steel wool it until it's all iron again, then reseason
Only Kevin knows where the singularity lies, and he's not telling
On the contrary, that shit terrifies me when the stakes matter enough and reach other people besides me.
I'd say understanding that failure is part of the soup is how I think about it. I can learn my way around it, sometimes there's plenty that's out of my hands. So I just use that to fuel the rest of the drive, even when it's miserable.
Sometimes, the only way is through.
They're both present here I'd say. You got some water and ice?
Gaba receptors go brrrr
Bah
Not as such
water + ice = illegal
The liquor just ain't strong enough fornme
In the eyes?
the ghost rizes
Probably piety
The me now is indeed a inbetween
But I can't have both without losing a liver
fyre is back, how long has fyre been back? >.>
I need absinte or some charteuse
The septic fluid hasn't even fully dripped off him yet
Fancy drunk huh
Think gn drink
Usually once I'm toasted idgaf what keeps me there
Undiluted absinte is 70% achohol
Well, depending on what you study, I'm sure you're well aware of what comes next after the slurred speech, slower thoughts, erosion of inhibitions, etc can do to you in the headspace you're in.
Just have a cup with the h2O and ice somewhere you won't knock down and reach for it from time to time.
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Knife is uncanny /ft or precog , flak unyielding
Dump mobility
Bah
Gale….
I’ve come to haunt you gale
I'm heavy on not buying pre-owned stuff
Specialising in anatomy
Is fotf good for knife
I've been running shroud
Yeah it’s the best zealot ability
I certainly don't do it often, never know who was cooking up pig balls and knuckles in that thing before you
Honestly yeah, some nasty mfs just scratching they balls and swiping it on shit then giving it to a thrift shop
Got me paranoid
4 year of study outside and inside my academy
Sounds more like you're applying foresight, challenging belief, measuring logic and maybe even shifting thinking.
That's just part of thinking.
I have pride in what I do
god i wish these werent so shit
Whatever I buy, that shit better still be wrapped in the box.
Sorry was me
Seeing how many people at work can't be assed to wash their hands after the bathroom has me cooking every meal I can myself haha
See that's devious behavior
Straight to dungeon with ye
All mind have there own propaganda
At least they're not food service I guess lmao
We aren't immune of such
Yall better wash your novelty t shirts
And propaganda isn't immune to refute, criticism, etc.
If we believe of so
Oh no no no
You can't break a mind that is arleady set
I mean yeah, people really do just be thinking.
If that were true, then anatomy wouldn't even exist as the science it is.
In art
I am studying for animation
I must argue
It's not perspective per say
But experience
Well both are the same thing in a way
But I must argue on that
Experience and perspective inform each other fluidly as you as an artist have been able to see and even do.
No, that's just knowing that art isn't interested in rigidity of will, thought or spirit.
Having a strong best is good in general
How shall you break the rule without knowing it
The guy that streams asmongold all day was no surprise
A strong best can be as immaterial as a weak worst.
Buddhist artists routinely just destroyed their own pieces.
Having a weak base make weak art
Only the fortunate can only achieve that
That's religion
It's the philosophy
"Weak" and "strong" are part of that internal propaganda you spoke on.
Religion can inform art because of the perspective it'll harbor and be informed elsewhere though.
Art can inform religion and has.
Key point can it need not be
It simply will is my point here though.
Bah
The humans doing the art are just gonna do it.
They aren't asking permission when they just do it fr.
Art can be whatever how ever shit or great it is
Its still art
Doesn't mean it ain't shit
I will hate it scoff at it but it will stay as art
You know this is just going to end in more mogryn fan art, right?
You can have comparative quality and at the same time comparative quality can be more of a projected sensibility than anything of material value to the artist, the audience, etc.
Graffiti is a fantastic example of this.
I argue that having the knowledge of academic drawing may change your perspective yes but it also give new info
Because you're getting exposed to learned and generational curated technique on top of whatever may have been archived and studied. Yk, art history n all that.
Graffiti value time which make its own niche
What would you define what "real graffiti" is
Someone whom only paint of the wall?
And that point that's painting
Some art conventions, like graffiti don't have to adhere to any kind of regimented sense of objectivity.
Taking your time is an option
What I see in graffiti is quick art
Which in itself is fascinating an in and out art
Then I don't think you've seen other kinds of graffiti because people definitely can and have taken their time with murals and the like.
In a time frame
Less then a day
Or mere hours
Then that would be a painting
Then I argue that's just painting
It's still going to be graffiti because graffiti is a type of painting.
Like, people doing tags can have an entire project going on between multiple sites even.
It may look like a horse but it's still a zebra
Which can make it more insular in a sort of what but that requires a more intimate awareness of the artist(s) responsible.
Like sure cool
Still doesn't feel like actual graffiti you know
It sounds like you may just have a very narrow perspective of graffiti tbh. And that perspective allows you to reduce the art's possibilities and the intentions and efforts of other artists.
Not exactly me trying incriminate you necessarily, just point it out.
I do
And I do agree I must not but that's what my concrete view shall be
Is it really graffiti?
At some point why not paint the wall?
Did micheal angels make graffiti on the 16th Chapel?
It's muddy
16th chapel 
I forgor
I literally live in communities where graffiti artists have done entire murals over days at a time, sometimes between scattered sites where the greater fruit of that art comes with the actual lived-in journey to even have access to that canvas.
People be putting a lot of love into what they put up and it doesn't even need to be some massive sprawl either because the person doing the art is going to be manifesting that vision and sharing it.
story of my life
That's great but then those would categorise as mural art
Yeah, a graffiti mural.
Still feel lacking on the graffiti side
For someone that has smoke for stifling academia, you definitely got it rent free fe
For some reason I read "graffiti mural" as "giraffe mural"

Ey doesn't mean I must agree on everything about it
It wouldn't be lacking at all though. Your focus seems to be too reliant on scale for substance and intent.
is there a spreadsheet or something with relic blade attack stats?
No what I am arguing is its essence
Never less it will always have substance
And another reason why larger scale projects might be lesser known has everything to do with what informs graffiti art in the first place: people's directly lived-in experiences in their own neighborhoods.
What I shall always see the essence in graffiti is its wild nature to appear anywhere anytime without consent
Thammer's mobility is atrocious
Holy fucking shit
What the fuck is that running cost
Yes
No outside knowledge outside of the artist
which evis generally performs better?
Yeah, which is why I mentioned that graffiti murals can, have and do exist
15
probably the 15, but, that's cause it is way simpler
Yeah it's been ask to be
They can also just end up getting demolished or covered up by workers.
It lack that primal idea of graffiti
Then yeah that's graffiti
The need you're talking about here just happens organically.
Is there even a reason to play mk3
OK the next topic
Having a weapon that feels fun to use instead of like a combat axe
I'm not talking about contracted graffiti artists no longer taking a risk with vandalism and trespassing felony charges yk?
What's your thoughts of academic art
I've been talking about street graffiti this whole time. :V
Wasn't that the point?
No.
Then what was it?
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I was speaking entirely on graffiti artists doing the exact opposite of what you were claiming they weren't doing with larger projects.
All I know is I hear colors sometimes

Large scale projects just happen with or without any kind of institutional consent.
And the general public are often the primary facilitators of graffiti art because well...they're the ones doing it and seeing it
I just imagine in renaissance time where multiple artist would bring out there canvas and put them on the wall of commercial area
That would make a great parody
Chat
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Shit any time you see a Banksy, they be quick to carve that piece of wall out and auction it

So no reason at all because mk3 feels atrocious to use, good to know
Aye
I guess I can agree on that
Ai bubble is gonna pop soon
I'm busy getting lost in my head, tho... I spend 25 out of 24 hours a day in that state. how else does one get their me time?
EA already admitted its more expensive to fix ai mistakes than normal devs
There's someone that has a tag that has been going around town and I've been curious about tracking down some of the ducked out areas where they might also be.
There's also a bando I like checking in on every now and again. Locals have a lot of fun playing around on the walls there.
mmm.. what do I miss? I'm testing Flamer with Penetrating Flames in simulation at Auric difficulty, and it takes ages to kill Crusher with it. I need to fully dump 3 mags to do it. I expected, once the britlleness stacks are set, I should see him dying rather quick.
Take 5 5 hours energy
Unlock the next hour
You miss the fact that isn't ideal to do that
Just melee
Good point
Anyhow good talk
Next time we gotta talk about performative art or smth
Imma hit the shower and go out at midnight
Creative types keep the community alive
Whether that be through art, music, or just events
The alternative is uncanny Strike
Chastise shredder mowing down entire mixed hordes
My only problem with academic art the same problem I have with institutionalized dogmatic orthodoxy. In this case, that art often ends up getting consumed and transformed towards mundane corpo assembly-esque sensibilities that get co-opted further.
BAH
even the critique of captial is doomed to be subsumed into it or something
I argue on that
chastise brauto mowing down crushers
Academic art is well
That has more to do with a bigger problem that art has often taken on and even antagonized before.
Yk, like graffiti
Damnit I miss this so much lol
@drowsy steppe I'm not gonna lie, there's no better feeling than letting your hair air dry after a hot bath
Whatever you do with your academic art skill if for you to do
Then I'm still puzzled what those people who talk about flamer + knife with uncanny combo being super good and "melting the crushers" are talking about. I've tried it in various combinations - still feels like shit, it's much easier to just use the knife alone to do the job
But you can still play with it
Yeah
Uncanny
Crushers aren't 3k HP anymore
Yea, I've tried that, but why? If I skip the applying fire step and just will start cutting them right away, it takes about the same time, may be even faster
Yeah. I mean it can really help because all it is is people coming together to literally practice art and to learn about it same as any other discipline.
I'm more specifically talking about how that academic angle into art as a discipline gets slurped up with the maintained conventions of academia in the first place.
Plenty of ways higher education can both help and harm art and artists period. Like down to a material fact.
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that dog is telling you to step the hell off their food
Only small pink dog I'm familiar with
A university with a fledgling art program who is actively zoning out a community from property purchases actively can push out and harm the artists that can be struggling to make ends meet to make room for students. Those students are going to be in the position to practice their art off the back of an institution that just stifled art in the first place.
See what I mean?
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I've seen this posted so many times and have yet to grasp the humor of it
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Not quite
Not only are they not funding their art program to enrich the already enrolled students they're getting money and debt ledgers from, but they just displaced people from the community performing the art in the first place and thus, actively playing in the role of harming that art culture.
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besides TOO MUCH CHEESE TOO MUCH MACARONI NOT ENOUGH CHEESE
I think that's just america
Like if we're going to be talking about academia, that analysis cannot exist without acknowledging how academia can systemically impact artists in the first place.
That's not just in America my bubbo.
That's wherever that material reality is present and can be noted because it's like
Everything new will always get a pushback of some kind
Materially real. You can touch it, perceive it and study to understand it.
There's entire disciplines that equip people with the education to better articulate it where the research is backing it up.
I'm gonna be real here... graffiti can look cool, but, I don't have enough of an attention span to enjoy it
@long oasis

this extends to most visual art as well
Yes. Which is why understanding those relationships is part of what's informing the art.
We were just talking about graffiti, an entire angle of art with a very potent history of the artists doing it generally being from people who are being directly disenfranchised to the point of being criminalized for throwing up art under a variety of motivations tied to their material circumstances.
And, those relationships would, in fact have a connection to academia where relevant.
Putting one down to lift up another is bad practice
Yeah, colonial imperial art history will teach anyone that on top of just having to live with those conditions and consequences for example.
This is fun as fuuuuuuuuck
Guess which institutions can be connected to those bases of power?
:^)
Financially sponsored even?
How is the teaching of classical and mythological work fit into this?
You blame artist for whom there patron is?
I'm referring to another example where institutions informed the perspectives of art produced by them and how those consequences could connect to other art responding to it.
I am speaking of study
Academic is not to blame of the hate of graffiti
It's not about atomized blame, it's about basic acknowledgement of where the art can be coming from. There are no vacuums here.
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I'm the scat man bee bop bop bada bope bop bop bada bope
And you earlier refuted the statement that academia as an institution can play a role in harming art, let alone informing and promoting art that's tethered to harm.
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Anything can harm anything when you gain experience
got static from the psyker on the team then blew his ass away with a barrel
Your art now will change in the 10 min
There will and shall always be harm
atp check if there's cameras inside your eyes my guy
I'm discussing material reality of how institutions operate and antagonize art.
Not learning academy is a harm so is Learning it
What I argue is knowing it
Is far better then not
I'm not condemning the act of learning art.
I'm talking about institutions, their power and their capacity to be antagonistic to art.
And then giving examples (albeit a bit scattered), of where that can be present.
Everything as a institution
Butting head will always be normal
There will always be propaganda
No. There can be institutions that don't predicate themselves on something like promoting hateful art.
There can doesn't mean they aren't
How are you sure the institution I not harmful?
There can be places of learning that exist that don't require people to be displaced from where they live to even practice it.
What make you sure of so?
This isn't a vacuum of purely positive or purely negative here. I'm talking about systemically intentional acts.
Define it
What is systemically intentional acts
only as real as he decides to be
strongest pink dog this side of the heilongjiang
i think there's something under my skin
Also accurate
spinter?
no
the ants?
Contracting constructions and demolition for campus building. Very straight forward.
Purchases housing legally distinct academic institutional property, meaning there are active legal consequences affecting the communities of the people who would have lived there that are no longer legally allowed to do so.
i thought something was swelled on my toe but then i touched my other toe
and i think it's supposed to be like that
idk
is it red
Like, researchable, widely available to note things here.
idk its dark im just touching it rn
Then that's on the government and on the people
I understand that losing an house is bad
It's working in tandem. The university in question has to literally cooperate with private, government and public bodies here.
But there will always be sacraficr
Then protest
Dragging the people of the know how will not help but could affect negatively
Inform them
I guess
That's an appeal to tradition which tends to come with an adherence to the status-quo. People literally throw up art against this all the time. Artists literally are often part of community protests against these kinds of practices.
is the movie good btw
And so vice versa there will be artist with it
do you feel movement and aches it could be the worms reshaping you
That's literally what protest art has done though. It's literally dogging the people doing the harm and the public that sympathizes and recognizes truths within that can end up supporting the art.
i dont trust ratings anymore maaaaaaaaan
it could still be the worms
Then good?
too many dogshit shows and movies with 10s across the board
Like the point I'm pressing here is debunking these ideas that art is something operating entirely within neat little lines of immutable barriers.
But we are viewing of to protest and political point
What? Now you comfuse me
We're making connections here is what the theme of this conservation has been steered towards for a while here.
For you
I have always stand of a good foundation
Hence I argue for academic art
No. You're making those connections to because you're not being dishonest.
I do not care the political side
I care for the study itself
You brought up on the idea of the effect happening outside of the study
Which I do not see nor care
Well yeah that's been clear. And you don't have to care, but you yourself know there's no point in denying it when actually put to task to speak on it.
I shant deny it but I also don't have to agree on it either
ah yes 5 pm on tuesday
its not a tuesday and its not 5 pm
My point was always on the study not the people
but sure go ahead
And that study itself is going to be impacted by the cycles the institution responsible is going to be doing while you're part of it. You don't have to do anything about it despite coming to the conclusion that challenging the perspective is worth it because then you'd just be...
Doing art with respect to what art is by simply existing as it can.
it is without a doubt tuesday where i am and without a doubt 5 pm where i am
do you live on the other side of the world or something?
yk you'll stop existing as soon as i hop off discord right?
Again if it's art it's art shit or great it is
So even these logics, you're cycling yourself towards giving a damn about what's going into your art, versus being more selective ig.
if im a figment of your mind, can you make me handsome and not crippled?
Again, you're reducing art to a cycle it refuses to adhere to
I am still gonna hate of love it
Because its what I do
i'll think about it
Arguing that I can't
That I must reject
Then that would mean that you're complacent with the way things are within yourself.
I'd personally say that it's worth respecting ones own creativity by actually being creative enough to challenge themselves to change. It's unironically a guiding cornerstone of how artists improve themselves over time.
Art is only stagnant when the people doing it refuse to actually create change.
And task themselves with limiting their perspectives.
Art is never stagnant
It will be stagnant when there only 1 artsit
Left
Having a same style does mean stagnation
There will be inspiration
Copy of copy
And that normal
What catch your eyes doesn't mean the other suck complete arse
So, I'm hearing a lot of self-denial here.
It's because I don't your point completely I am not you
In every way you explain it I still don't see it
You're both admitting to the reality that art doesn't require permission or dogma, while also insisting that it must be perceived by a metric that notes it as inferior or superior.
It sounds like the overall base of your thoughts here and that's suppression. Like wilful suppression.
Because there will
There will always be comparaison
And it's not even working well even for you.
The comparison can be there, but it's not the omega here is my entire point.
The comparison can be empty as well because it doesn't even need to be relevant.
Which is already went over.
Why I think academic is a great is mostly because it is indeed closer to life
Higher then that
Its photography
What skill you earn from academia is a part of life you aim for
That's why romanticism and cubism became a genre
I disagree that academia is somehow the pinnacle of artistry because art preceeded academia and actively defies it like every day.
I never said pinnacle I would say closest
To "life"
It's not even close fr.
Higher then that its photography
I just explained how academia can work to stifle the lives of people making art.
The Chinese. They will hunt it and kill it for erectile dysfunction soup.
QRT: ReddCinema
This dragon attacks your city, who you calling?
There's a base
I never argues that it was the pinnacle I said its a good introduction
😬
Heck higher would be performative art
oops
Art this art that
How come people don't just write their ideas onto a paper?
Smh my head
Working on realism study is not a bad thing and I stand on there
What is academic art is the closest to real life in the way of painting of drawing in a visual sense
I wouldn't even call it a good introduction fr. It can be a good supplement but not the greatest place to start. That to me comes from community, culture and consciousness. How those things can be nurtured is the entire reason why some of the world's most beloved music genres even exist like jazz, funk, hip-hop, rock, etc.
Europeans making Classical music with the finest material for 600 years: 😴
All of those styles could and have been absorbed and made sterile in some ways, yes, but they were born out of a disinterest in just doing the same shit over and over and also inspired by the conditions that birthed them to begin with for better and worse.
Fine I agreed the greatest is what made you get into art
But even then those art you love still have a base in academia the question is what they break from it
It's what enchance the art
Slaves banging on some rocks and using chicken wire to string a base 2 seconds after the brutal trip from the Atlantic and onto a sugar cane field: 🔥
Just a skill diff I'm telling y'all
You have too much negative stereotype on academic art
All of that happened on the fringes before being incorporated. Academia archives, measures, formalizes and cements disciplines within art. The people developing their art within it can be enriched too, but they themselves are also operating outside of academia one way or another before and after being part of it.
Especially if they're really serious about doing that for the sake of their art and motivations.
So, from that end, i fundamentally disagree that academia is the closest thing a better start.
i say check in tomorrow
maybe something changes
Academia is so you can get paid, and even then it doesn't work 😈
"If" what even is the point of doing art at all If not "serious"
You go in in mind to be serious if you aren't
Why be there
Plus, we're talking about academia. People get barred from ever seeing a university in their entire lives based on nothing else but their zip code and alloted opportunities and struggles.
I feel bad for artists, because ever since Walt Disney commodified the illustration medium, artists are no different from workers on an assembly line
So again, no it's not the best place to start
ts sounds like a xbox generated username
You are cherry picking part now ofcourse there will be an amount of elitism but what of the school that don't do this
Do they need such hate aswell
You fighting extreme with extreme
And again, as I already mentioned and have discussed with you at length at this point, you yourself also admitted to recognizing how academia can systemically stifle art.
This isn't cherry picking, this is what cohesion of arguments can look like.
Like we're both lit here btw.
And I mean zero disrespect fr, but I'm not going to be allowing myself to have a conversation about art and not actually talk about what is going to be within the reality that produces art.
I'm running back your own points so we don't lose track here fr.
And running back to mine because they're relevant and have already covered some of the same questions you keep asking me yfm?
Art mostly.
can we all just kiss and be friends
I mean originally I was just talking to dude because they seemed dangerously down then we started talking about art.
I agreed on this because I still don't have a concrete idea on your argument
But it seem we agreed on the same thing
Art is le art
more like
I am depress that I still don't know what love is
fart
romantic love is cool but i think platonic love for friends is equivalent
I dont see the issue, free ants
Yeah that too
God I love that song
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Cast a spell on him
Soup?
too much time in microwave
Wait are you doggirl or catgirl?
Wolp
Academia is not the best place for art to flourish and thrive because the institution of academia can and has been responsible for playing a tangible role in the ways that communities full of artists can be disrupted and displaced. This can and has perpetuated cycles of institutional harm by the university leveraging that power in cooperation with corpos and feds in combination of their relationships to one another on a societal scale.
Because of this, the factors that will play a role in displacing artists, especially those regulated to societal fringes will play a part in inspiring that art and its developments outside of that institutional oversight. Should that art become mainstream enough, it can end being partially absorbed into academia and inherently will as students with their own living and changing perspectives informing their art will have an impact on that art's capacity for expression.
And within those institutional barriers, artists can and often do use their art to speak back against those institutions simultaneously absorbing and harming where that art is coming from: the people making the art.
Therefore, academia can primarily act as historically antagonistic force towards the development of art, the stifling of expression and even the promotion of harm through art itself.
Then this would fall on the artist to not be influent
Again we will never see eye to eye on this
This can't fall solely on artists if they lose access to the apartment with insulation to make a project dude.
That's a more pointed example here
When a university works with private and federal bodies to get full legal access to a part of the community already being priced out during gentrification for example, the university is actively aiding in that effort and causing that harm that then directly impacts the ways people do art.
Kevin stare
Like that's like dead ass a thing
Is this Kevin when he is waiting for food?
say hi to kevin or face 80 years of bad luck
And one can literally see how that plays out when one actually understands that because, like I said before, it's a material thing that will affect people.
Hi Kevin
Plenty of broke artists selling their art or performing in public that have to make themselves scarce due to an arrest quota for example or curfews that target children within the community in cities where places are bought up and turned into private property with cops tasked with being a nuisance.
If the person is also struggling with housing, they're actively being harmed in a connected way like.
Repost
OK sure that happen
That's it
That's all I see
It happen
It will continue to happen if there's no change
Again don't care bc I don't have first hand experience
Which is why I mentioned that that attitude makes it easier to reduce something like graffiti art and it's scale so...yk?
The whole wilful blindspot
finally my tac scoreboard will look proper 
Reduce?
Did you think I reduce the value of graffiti art because of the original purpose?
your dmg doesnt matter
you should always focus on obscuring your teammates vision
everything else comes second
No, I'm saying you were reducing the intent of larger scale projects because of your own admitted thoughts on graffiti and your new admitting of not having to deal with the things that can stifle the art we've talked about.
Things like. Well. Graffiti.
if we're just using that example here.
The sharing of different artist view to a project will not reduce maybe even amplify the intent hence why film is regarded as high art
For its mix of media
What I argue is its defention
For I follow more to the origin essense
Never once I see the intent as smaller
comes with the territory 
An origin essence to me means actually acknowledging what is informing the art someone is coming out with.
i like how they improved the vfx but it still blinds people anyway
Like
gives me an excuse to curse out my teammates
I can't stress enough how that isn't going to not be relevant here.
That would be denying the intent that artists have when defining themselves through a medium in the first place.
Jazz is a style of music with baked-in deconstruction of other musical conventions like
hey ill take a flammenwerfer player over people who nade you when you're loading up an aftershock
What make or break graffiti for me was always the point was how it was did before of why it was did that way
lmao
Different rule for different art
it's less fun when it's a random player sabotaging you tho
Then that would sound like those motivations have more to do with a version of study that strips away intention in favor of isolating technique.
but ragebaiting your friends is priceless
Perhaps to co-opt later.
cant believe they made this totally normal servitor hunchback
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i fucking hate it dude
ive been playing mostly bulwark and assault and mfs love getting me killed by stunlocking me with nades
imo nades are the most misused utl
That's how they make the ratling shorter, hunchbacked
it's fun with friends but makes me rage when randoms do it
instead of using them for mass stagger they use em to avoid fighting minoiris or randomly nading your frontliners 
I.e a logic that makes commodity much more attractive.
real and true
cant wait for them to be l4d2 jockey sized, and crouching doesnt even change their model height in third person
Even if the person doesn't consciously act on it.
like show some respect fr
you're a guest in my lobby.......
wolfgirl
That's how I study strip to the minimum hence my view on jt
My way and your way aren't the same but they have both the same equal awnser of both being wrong and right
im just billingual so i meow sometimes
remember when the self heal modifer blew up a barrel and killed me and i thought it was your friend lmao
does shooting a teammate's melta make it ff you
yes lmao
YES YOU INST AJUMPED HIM LMAO
That's how I study
THEN WE WATCHED THE REPLAY
I like math

Love it
I see.
i think if he plants it and u shoot it then you'll die
Ah that is cool. I can speak English and forg
good
Philosophy was never my strong suit so I dont or ever saw art that way much
I could get a lick of so
I like how art and philosophy are kinda intertwined
So is math and nature
Thinking of like, dadaism
Geometry in plant
True
Zelchat will never die
Zealot chat will never die
every other chat never lived to begin with
I will personally hate Picasso for his cubism work it's like proto cartoon
Until death would proc
zel chat is the only one that is actually alive
But I shant deny that he is one hell of a great artist
Cycles
I will stay here tbh
All the other chats got trappered and dogpiled by bursters
Regulars will
But also hate him as a person
I ask things abt other classes in here
Exactly
I refuse to touch the other chats with a 10 foot pole
they wont they will just discuss the new class here
I went into psyker chat once
If I'm desperate I might say smth in lfg though
Asked why people shit on electrostaff
I find having a base in classical work is a good choice
Because of my focus on the human posing
It looks kinda like smite
And anatomy in general
Question was never answered and instead got a whole rant that staffs in general suck and should only use gun psyker
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I mean yeah. Part of why I have a problem with academia as an institution when it comes to art especially is the ways curriculums often focus exclusively on that kind of approach. It's not there's something inherently wrong with understanding technique whatsoever. The will of the institution is the problem here less so than the individual which what I've been mostly focusing on.
There's a reason why corporations staff entire sections of their marketing teams after spending insane amounts of money on big time corpo artists, trend analysts, even consulting bloody marketing psychologists yfm? Academia plays a huge role in that ethos of commodification that ultimately puts a lid on art in a very damning way is where my focus is at.
That doesn't mean that it can't change or has always been like this either, but the point moreso is that it's a real factor into the ways art can be spread and learned from in the first place.
I'm trying to think some assholes that have made paint patents.
What do you see that is academic art?
I see classical Greek romain work
What I understand is that you see corporal art
Which concert?
Life exists outside of Europe so Greco-Roman shit or whatever is just one angle of humanity's expressions of art.
unfortunately ivri isnt playing ,,,
violent vira
Never heard of it
As far as academic art I'm mostly just focusing on things like curriculum, financing, campus life, university oversight and censorship, etc.
artist that spotify recommended me like 20 minutes ago
I was arguing on this
Also a good base for visual
Work
Rather what academia can do to teach people about art.
Again
AWOOOOOOOOOOOO
I love anatomy
That's for societal conventions that again, are not limited to being birthed solely from one place.
People have been drafting detailed and measured anatomic guides before the greeks and romans.
That's more relative than objective.
That's the point
That's what I like of it
It's a perfect base
What's funny is that most people will think original Hellenistic art looks like drag 😈
My bud is kicking my ass rn.
What i really love is prob Victorian time academic study I guess
Yeah the skill to do the basic of realism as a base
Knowing how shadows and colour work
Mm. I wouldn't know much about it just yet. And I'm more interested in other parts of world before paying more attention to europe.
and yeah, that stuff broadly is interesting,
And from a fundamental guiding point, yes.
That's what I stand for
Mhm. I know people in life sciences who have a background in illustration that use those skills together to make their actual studies more potent.
Wow the Greeks were actually really gay 😔
As in literally drawing an entire system.
Yo Nazis, y'all worship this? 💀
Gay is when you use colour
Yes 
Or for their notes to just have well-drawn, easily accesible notes.
Colour blind people are actually all straight???
Colorblind usually doesn't mean you only see black and white
I like bridgeman breakdown of anatomy
no they jsut dont know if they're gay because they cant see every color themself
Since it fit more into observational stufy
So that's why all people before coloured TV are straight
Been curious for a while about what people actually think about when doing like referential diagrams for things like microbiology textbooks.
Nero with the dripp
I also wanna own a medical book
But bridge man work more on artistically anatomy
There's an actual like real series of decisions made there sometimes and it's really simple at first glance but then learning about how medical education is supplemented with art is wild as hell.
My fav artist is leyendecker
There's a literal art to depicting something like the Kreb's Cycle.
That man know how to draw pose
That's what I aim for
Michealangelo was renown for small detail on the muscle
🦐 ✅
Hence why he is so famous
His muscle and anatomy is extremely correct even for its ideal
He just know
Funfact that man was a wood carver
do i spend 50 dollars on 2 tickets even if i dont know if my friends can go yet,,,
hrm,,,
Spend it on doordash and then dont eat the food
@copper hawk reference
have u finished rogue trader before
i have
pensi
weapon_customization_extended

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Dude passes on chain emails with memes like this:
Personally I hate rumbler ogryns because I can’t see SHIT
i still dont know what dn is
And they’ve managed to get me pinned between crushers because of the impact
just barrel them off the map
True
b1ade its 1 am
True…
Why is he so small
it's 3 am
@frosty herald I got the bulwark shield spam cheese on lock
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on sm2 or darktide?
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i did that today actually
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