#zealot-class

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frozen kernel
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Or do you mean like, in a single month

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My b

calm charm
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170 hours in a month

frozen kernel
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Ah, yeah

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I had like

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A lot of free time off work

frozen kernel
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I just have to take breaks when it feels like fireteams aren't really pulling their weight, and I don't have the mental capacity to just repeatedly carry while playing with certain builds

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I sympathized with the Veteran's hate of Psyker players, but didn't really understand until I tried playing Helbore Vet last week

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Any time someone with Purg staff would M1 a group of elites that I was about to headshot, a part of my soul screamed in agony

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Smiting an entire group just as I'm tracking a shot just to have the enemy start twitching as I pull the trigger? Oh boy

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Helbore is fun tho

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My biggest issue is like

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Not being able to bear the decisions that people make on go

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Last time I was pushing off a wave of bombers

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Like 8

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And motherfucker shot them mid air and I just dissapeared

frozen kernel
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Something I had to stress to my buddy is that "If somebody is in a net, you need to pivot what you're doing immediately to help them"

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Because getting them out of the net is a lot quicker than getting them off the ground

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My buddies struggle to differ if you're captured by a net, a dog, down or by a mutant

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They can hear em all, but they don't know shit despite me telling em multiple times

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Net and dog i get but mutant?

frozen kernel
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I wish it was easier to ping the dog on top of you

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frozen kernel
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

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Iirc mutie is yellow warning snd it bounces with you

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Dog and trapper are both red, low, and immobile

frozen kernel
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[thump thump thump thump thump thump]

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frozen kernel
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"GROAGH, GROAGH, GROAAAAAAAAAAGH" [the sound of a mutant actively slamming somebody]

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They all have like 50-80 hours in game

frozen kernel
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I feel like mutant yell will be one of the final things I hear when I die

hexed igloo
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real

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And I'm always the one responsible for bosses, elites, wave management and doing quests so

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I'm babysitting 3 friends for the sake of just playing with em

frozen kernel
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I was playing with a random while streaming and explained to my buddy that "There's a difference between just trying to kill everything, and killing the right things"

calm charm
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Also mutants should have like

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Less hp

frozen kernel
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It doesn't matter if you steal every rager kill from your teammates. If you drop the ball on a poxburster that knocks your entire team into a mixed wave or off the map, that's just as much your fault as theirs.

calm charm
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Let me fucking one shot them instead of being played like a ping pong ball by 4 of em and at the same time fucked in the ass by flamers

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I hate the cackle

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Trappers shouldn't exist

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Dogs are enough

frozen kernel
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"GOT A NET JUST FOR YOU"

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Nah see

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Trappers are the one thing that stops arb lmfao

frozen kernel
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I like the "I'll sell you down THERRRRRRRRRE"

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Without trappers arb would be straight up unstoppable

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Both gone

deft badge
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No pls I like my dog

frozen kernel
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Plasma gunners neutered them pretty well for a bit

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At least the rushers

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The bad ones imo

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frozen kernel
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You might be able to block a couple of those shots but you weren't eating the entire firing line lol

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Petting the dog brings me such immense joy

frozen kernel
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I noticed the ones that sprint ahead lone wolf with arby maul had to actually stick with us

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frozen kernel
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At least a lil bit

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Yeah, idk

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They neutered plasma tbh

frozen kernel
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I like the plasma gunners but I understood peoples' frustration with this new enemy that was ending runs

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frozen kernel
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Because there were a lot of situations where it would spawn snipers and plasma gunners

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And any fireteam that wasn't playing pitch perfect just ate shit

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Getting 15 of them in a closed space meant you getting fucked so

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frozen kernel
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Even the ones that did play perfectly in havoc were getting run ended by plasma* gunners they physically couldnt dodge

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Yeah

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Im not mad about them being gutted

frozen kernel
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It's still a very dangerous enemy if you aren't paying attention

calm charm
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They are a threat, but not a fucking priority anymore

frozen kernel
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Arguably so are most specials and elites so it's fair

calm charm
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Also, did reapers and flamers got a buff?

frozen kernel
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A reaper will tear your shit apart if you let him start shooting you in the back

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Oh hey that's convenient timing lol

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I don't recall reapers melting me like a bitch at any distance, and i don't recall flamers pushing me back on any difficulty

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Reapers dont normally worry me ngl

frozen kernel
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Flamers always pushed back, I got a funny clip of said psyker friend from launch getting owned

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Got pushed into the smelter hole in the middle

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deft badge
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Idk, gunners spook me more than reapers

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Trappers and flamers spook me the most overall

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long oasis
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long oasis
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firing at you

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But I stopped using unfaltering and I usually ran with a charged heavy at them

long oasis
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not sure but I think if theyre targeting someone else they wont

calm charm
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So that may be the issue

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Because like 1 out of 4 pushes me back

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Another funny question, how the fuck does dog/trapper/mutant targeting work?

long oasis
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when they spawn they pick out a target but they might switch

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Imagine

long oasis
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its inconsistent at the best of times

frozen kernel
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I couldn't find the clip of my buddy getting hole'd by the tox flamer but I got this

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Dog targetting is weird

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It's now a running joke with the friends I play that when a mutant spawns, I'm the target

frozen kernel
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I prefer them to trappers though

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At least the dogs dont get me around corners

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IMO that first dodge alone would've gotten me pounced, but somehow I was able to ultra instinct it at the last possible second with the follow up

calm charm
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I hate chaos beasts too

spark pier
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This is a really fun melee build ive been using in Auric/maelstrom missions

carmine lance
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you know, it feels really on the nose that I'm working on an essay about autism in between darktide missions

long oasis
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youve been in the trenches

zinc talon
copper hawk
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Introduced to dbd terminology

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Against my will

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And it's so real

zinc talon
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what's a dbd

long oasis
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digbuttdeath

zinc talon
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dead by daylight

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oh

long oasis
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dont dig in your butt twin

golden rain
zinc talon
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why they went with pickaxe instead of halberd or some other poleaxe I'll never understand

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certainly weren't copy pasting the vt2 pickaxe

hexed igloo
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Dogs I can Bluetooth shove from 10m away and they whiff half the time anyway

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Trappers I can slide cancel on their bitchass and onetap

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Fucking muties whip around corners like they've got a pole to swing on and then throw me into tox flame/a burster 9/10 times

zinc talon
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dogs are my favorite 1v1 darktide

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the only enemy with a shred of self preservation

hexed igloo
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I'll take 20 Dogs at once over 2 mutants

hexed igloo
drowsy steppe
hexed igloo
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Did that last night don't u remember

zinc talon
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so a thing that's really been giving me a leg up with mutie waves or having to deal with several at once

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if you never turn from facing the direction they initially come from, even when you sidestep some and they blow past you

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if you always keep facing the initial contact direction

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it cuts your getting grabbed % per pack by like a third

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what gets you grabbed, is getting turned around facing away from their initial entrance

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and the one three behind the one you just turned to look at is who gets you

deft badge
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See mutie train, dump combat shotgun into them, profit

zinc talon
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it takes em like, ten full seconds to run past you, hit something and recover to get you again

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if they even target you a second time

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in that time the team's killed em

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it feels like a you-sure kind of assertion cuz it's so counter intuitive

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but just, don't stop facing the direction they come from and you'll get grabbed half as often

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trust, or don't, I aint your dad I'm your daddy

drowsy steppe
hexed igloo
carmine lance
hexed igloo
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I think once they start a charge they should be more or less completely locked to that trajectory, say with ~20° cone they can turn out to

grave topaz
kindred python
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The shock maul is the best melee in the game

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Only thing at its level is the psyker greatsword

upper parrot
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Yes force greatsword made for chopping off heads like daisies

quiet mango
carmine lance
quiet mango
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Still

carmine lance
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plus that's warrior priest, not even zealot

signal spoke
carmine lance
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calling it a day and turning it in exactly like that

normal shell
long oasis
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is that me

hexed igloo
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man cant get weapon customization cos the guy hid it on nexus tf

long oasis
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yea cuz it doesnt work anymore

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youre supposed to get the new one

hexed igloo
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cant find

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may be stupid

long oasis
hexed igloo
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ah very cool thx

drowsy steppe
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aaah

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memory overload mod

kindred python
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I need more flame nades

grave topaz
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This is the last class I have to max. I need a build with the big sword. It has big shoes to fill after psyker’s big sword build

drowsy steppe
grave topaz
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Is there a good build that doesn’t take the keystone that requires me to die to be useful?

plush estuary
drowsy steppe
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redhead italian man

hexed igloo
grave topaz
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It says it gives the bonus when missing a wound

plush estuary
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he wants a build without martydom

tidal island
limber sparrow
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does shield of contempt effect apply to the attack the triggers it?

tidal island
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But yeah just take the bleed/crit talents and keystone in the left tree instead for a good build, or inexorable judgement to whip around like a crack addict

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They really need to list the dodge benefits for that keystone fr

visual stream
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You don't need to be downed or corrupted

grave topaz
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Ah so it just means missing that health segment

tidal island
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Pro tip

grave topaz
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But I also kinda don’t like being a couple hits away from dying. Greatsword psyker was actually pretty tanky

tidal island
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Fire barrels

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Don't damage your toughness but your health directly

north sedge
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You take alot less dmg when low

tidal island
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So you can set it up ezpz

grave topaz
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My psyker was able to take a mauler overhead and still have ~60% hp left. Is it about that tanky?

tidal island
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This build is probably not optimal but I find it fun to blend things up

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I should actually lab out how little damage you take but my heart tells me it should be possible

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Psyker has that 33% toughness dmg resist at high peril and zealot has a 37.5% one active all the time with martyrdom, but psyker is gonna have more base toughness so... idk. I personally don't even run a toughness curio on Zealot, it's less about tanking hits and more about slapping everything around you in the face before they hit you in the first place

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Having the invincibility passive every 2 minutes makes eating the occasional crusher overhead not game losing regardless

grave topaz
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Psyker has a lot of other DR sources too. 25% base DR at all times if you’re below 100% peril

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Scrier’s gives 10% for free

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And you get another 10 when you are at high peril

tidal island
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Doesn't that have anti synergy with the 33% one tho?

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So idk the actual values there

north sedge
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Bleed for the emperor, good balance exist also

grave topaz
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You don’t unlock the greatsword until rank 16??? Tf am I supposed to use until then that’s the whole reason why I even want to play this class

hearty nebula
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melee scriers is disgustingly tanky lol

grave topaz
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Ok I think the reason every zealot build seems to run martyrdom is cuz these other 2 keystones seem kinda mid

quiet mango
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Blessed Sigmar

ornate bone
north sedge
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They're all good for certain things, marty just got really juiced in the tree rework

exotic plaza
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ij is the only shit one

carmine lance
exotic plaza
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piety is still good on finesse weapons and is tankier than marty due to having same tdr but having more hp and toughness

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also stalwart exist

grave topaz
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Is it good for greatsword though

exotic plaza
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piety basically work for everything

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if you want to tank ig

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but marty is better for relic blade

tidal island
hexed igloo
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man having an actual sight makes aiming the bolters so much fucking easier holy shit

tidal island
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Erm actually it's supposed to feel like shit to use because you're a little humie

hexed igloo
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human ingenuity birthed the reflex sight im gonna fuckin use it

north sedge
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you can still run 1 toughness curio for marty

exotic plaza
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good balance is not good enough to justify taking it

tidal island
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Honestly I feel like IJ has potential, it feels amazing when you actually have the damn stacks going because you can dodge all over the place so fast you're basically flash stepping.

exotic plaza
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bad uptime and value for points spend

tidal island
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?

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I take it all the time

plush estuary
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SoC is interesting

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it only tiggers on health loss

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and it has a global cooldown

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between everyone

tidal island
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Yeah that's the unfortunate part

plush estuary
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but its okay as an DR talent

tidal island
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But I feel like 2 zealots on the same team both having it is rare enough where I just don’t care

north sedge
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the uptime is pretty much always

exotic plaza
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a basic fotf martydom build is basically like this, note depending on the weapon you can either path through desperation or providence

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depend on weapon you might want duellist

plush estuary
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desperation is playstyle and weapon dependent

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revive one is more applicable

tidal island
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Ngl I feel like riposte is just dead.

exotic plaza
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desperation is not really worth it on something like relic blade which is high stamina and low usage

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but for crusher and knife it is essential

tidal island
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I would rather have SoC than riposte these days

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And I really feel like pious cutthroat is mid now too

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Right side tree can be cut for a lot of free points elsewhere

exotic plaza
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I forgor

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exotic plaza
quiet mango
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May Sigmar bless me another day to live

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Good night

tidal island
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Night

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I need to lab out how much Punishment lets you stagger with relic blade now

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Just from running it feels good but could be placebo

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You need 86% uptime on pious cutthroat to make it break even with the passive Martyr's purpose so that also feels like dead content

grave topaz
exotic plaza
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jad is straight up just better than potw

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since it is dr

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and not tdr

tidal island
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You mean owtw?

grave topaz
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I take both

exotic plaza
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oh yeah owtw

grave topaz
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Oh and psyker is also nigh immune to ranged attacks

tidal island
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With force sword blocking?

grave topaz
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Empathetic evasion

plush estuary
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EE deflector bubble

grave topaz
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Crits give you ranged attack immunity

tidal island
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Ah

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Ngl psyker is my least played class, but when I do play I feel like I prefer blocking ranged attacks to that one

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I feel like when I'm critting something in melee is usually when I don't give af about ranged attacks

ornate bone
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Ah, but you can dive into crowds without worrying about being surrounded by ranged enemies

hexed igloo
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I like shriek thumbsup_ogryn

ornate bone
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That's the magic

tidal island
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The magic is also that I just do that regardless lmao

ornate bone
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You just beeline to the first crittable entity and snowball from there

tidal island
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Seems very useful for reaper spam though

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I'm sliding around 24/7 on muscle memory so I don't really think about ranged that much, I usually die when I'm picking up some random shit off the ground and a firing squad is behind me that I don't know about

grave topaz
tidal island
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Oh yeah definitely

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tidal island
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The only class where toughness regen speed on curios isn't trolling tbh

tidal island
grave topaz
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Well I can definitely say zealot gets the worst starting loadout of the classes

spark pier
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Love me some Shroudfield builds

tidal island
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Alternatively:

grave topaz
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Shredder auto pistol 💀

drowsy steppe
obsidian prairie
tidal island
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Not an all 15 one with no blessings

obsidian prairie
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No weapon at all 15 with no blessings is good

grave topaz
spark pier
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Shredder pistol/Relic Blade using shroudfield is a good combo over bolt gun?

tidal island
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Veteran infantry lasgun on starting difficulty is fine

obsidian prairie
tidal island
visual comet
obsidian prairie
spark pier
grave topaz
obsidian prairie
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Shredder works fine with Relic as a high sprint speed secondary that can also toughness print

grave topaz
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Ok but it sucks as a starter weapon compared to the other classes’ lol

obsidian prairie
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Luckily zealot doesn't need a gun in low diff

spark pier
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ill just stick with boltgun and relic blade

grave topaz
tidal island
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Recon lasgun and Infantry autogun have the same sprint speed and can auto dodge ranged attacks which procs all of zealots many dodge passives including toughness regen, I prefer them for that. You only every shoot snipers and maybe trappers, having an 80 mobility one and sprinting then popping shroudfield lets you haul fucking ass

exotic plaza
tidal island
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Ran this where I'd shroudfield backstab the boss then if it was still alive mag dump them with the top 2 talents on the tree for 25% close ranged damage and 25% flanking ranged damage

grave topaz
tidal island
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Yeah I use bolter normally for unloading onto crusher stacks

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But ngl I might switch back

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I just don't really need a ranged weapon most of the time and having it as a pure utility slot for running away or into fire is nice

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Because relic sword is so slow

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If infantry autogun had a fucking scope I'd like it a lot more

tidal island
plush estuary
grave topaz
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Man this starting axe sucks too

obsidian prairie
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Rashad?

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One of the best weapons in the game

plush estuary
obsidian prairie
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Buh

plush estuary
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rinda came flying in a like a bat

grave topaz
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I tend to prefer cc melees

obsidian prairie
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You should

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Rashad is a CC weapon

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One of the best hordeclear weapons in the game

exotic plaza
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lol no

exotic plaza
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it can't keep up with havoc

stray summit
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So ass it doesn't have bromentum

exotic plaza
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the horde clear is only good in auric

tidal island
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"Rashad is one of the best weapons in the game"

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I hear they're adding skill trees to the classes

stray summit
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Rashad is only competent with bromentum without it its a cleaveless joke

obsidian prairie
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Yeah

exotic plaza
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it only decent in auric

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it doesn't have good enough horde clear or single target for havoc

obsidian prairie
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Bromentum is the best example of a design issue

plush estuary
exotic plaza
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also it just shit itself the moment you get stuck in a rager

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tbf push attack alway stagger them

tidal island
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I'm a dueling sword hippie I never use it

grave topaz
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This axe is definitely worse than the starting weapons of the other classes that’s for sure

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Shit on vet and ogryn the starting weapons are my fav melees on those classes in general

tidal island
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I felt the same way

grave topaz
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This class has a funny ass node. “4% toughness on ranged kill”. Vet literally has just a better version of that lol

tidal island
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Yeah...

gray ice
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yes the ranged class does get the better ranged talent

tidal island
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Our ranged weapons are for mag dumping into people's ass

gray ice
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Im glad we got some ranged, i wish anoint got a bit further distance falloff

tidal island
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I may just be silly but I really do prefer taking 3 would curios still for martyrdom

grave topaz
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Huh I’ve never seen or heard anything of the crusher before. It’s just kind of a big shock maul

tidal island
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Yeah it really struggles to kill crushers these days

grave topaz
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Interesting but probably not amazing

obsidian prairie
gray ice
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Crusher lets you ragdoll everything trying to fight you

obsidian prairie
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Just pa- light all over them

gray ice
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and it's honestly pretty decent at crushers

grave topaz
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Man this class has 4 big weapons and vet has 0 😭

gray ice
drowsy steppe
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you strikedown loop crushers until they die

grave topaz
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Granted I’ve only ever seen people use thunder hammer or relic sword

drowsy steppe
grave topaz
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That is a tremendous amount of work to kill 2 crushers

stray summit
tidal island
stray summit
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Eviscerator Chainaxe When Fatshark

rich quiver
gray ice
tidal island
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How to kill crushers with le crusher: step one, pull out your bolter

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Step 2: activate shroudfield

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After mag dumping

north sedge
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crusher kills em just fine

drowsy steppe
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yea

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kinda wish it had headtaker ngl

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head > slaug

rich quiver
tidal island
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Me when a purple crusher blob is running at me but it's fine because I have 2 hours until bedtime anyway so I can kill them with my crusher

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(It took 3)

drowsy steppe
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dont thinking react me DOUGH!!

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Im right..

gray ice
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are ya tho

drowsy steppe
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yea

rich quiver
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I would say

Depends

drowsy steppe
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my opinion also applies on the hammer

rich quiver
grave topaz
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Well I’ve seen hammer one shot crushers without shroud

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Idk about crusher (weapon)

north sedge
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crusher not a one shot weapon

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but it handles crusher quite well

drowsy steppe
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maybe you can push it but I havent tested

acoustic dune
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hi hello

drowsy steppe
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hi

grave topaz
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I would rather have my melee weapon kill them as fast as possible as the alternative of fighting a crusher at close range is getting bonked and dying

acoustic dune
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MALARKEY???

gray ice
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allo

acoustic dune
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WHY AARE THEE AWAKE

gray ice
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its mid day for Mal what

acoustic dune
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hi man from the mirror

drowsy steppe
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its 12:47 PM you dingus

acoustic dune
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its 6am?

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erm

drowsy steppe
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french timezone headass

gray ice
acoustic dune
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or push

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both

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both is good

gray ice
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yes push the crusher

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this is effective

grave topaz
gray ice
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you can spot dodge crusher overheads

north sedge
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crusher does not take very long to kill crushers, and you can toss em around with special if you need it

grave topaz
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There are plenty of melees that can kill them in 3 hits or less so I’d prefer to use those

obsidian prairie
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Problem solved

tidal island
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Everyone wants to kite out one crusher for 15 hits in a row until they look behind them and see 2 ragers and a trapper (they have no dodges)

drowsy steppe
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this is how you gauge weapon viability

north sedge
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if you're taking 15 hits to kill a crusher with the crusher you fucked up bad somewhere

drowsy steppe
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in a world where dueling sword one shots crushers

grave topaz
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Dueling sword, power sword, shovel, moonlight greatsword, hammer


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I hope relic blade can kill them fast

tidal island
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Relic blade chops them up quick

drowsy steppe
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yea I like relic

tidal island
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Heavy heavy stab

drowsy steppe
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shouldve had faster base weapon attack speed tho

tidal island
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And if you want literally just spam push attack

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Eh it's fine just go marty

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I don't even use the push attack 10% attack speed talent I can't feel it in practice

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Arbitrator is crazy though with the perfect block talent and the rest

exotic plaza
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what is bro yapping about

tidal island
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Only class I use an autoclicker on

exotic plaza
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perfect block is so fucking ass in practice

tidal island
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Git gud

grave topaz
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I only every press the block button to push ngl

tidal island
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One talent for 15% block cost 15% damage and 15% attack speed

exotic plaza
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yeah because that literally the only thing the block button is used for unless you're psyker or using shield weapon

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this ain't vt2 where block is actually viable

tidal island
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He has a giant shield and it works on ranged attacks

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He's john blocktide

drowsy steppe
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blocking has its uses

exotic plaza
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is it worth using perfect block talent over literally everything else though

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literally everything is better and more consistent

tidal island
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No it really isn’t

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That talent is so stat inflated

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And you can proc it instantly all the time

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Literally just use it lol

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Block for 0.1 seconds then push and swing

grave topaz
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Dodging still seems strictly better

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Mainly since you can charge heavies while dodging

exotic plaza
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idk what to expect tbh

tidal island
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You need to do it once every 8 seconds I'm not saying you should sit in melee with your shield up soectating

rich quiver
zinc talon
#

m-my f-f-finger has a-arthritis

#

ITS MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT MOUSE OKAY

#

THE AUTOCLICKER IS INCIDENTAL

tidal island
#

I installed it a couple days ago when I wanted to farm weeklys on the arby without trying

rich quiver
#

Lazyass

tidal island
#

Yes

drowsy steppe
#

I can understand auto click users

tidal island
#

That shit hurts man

drowsy steppe
#

knife's mk6 push attack spamming fucking hurts my index lol

tidal island
#

Mission after mission of max attack speed confident strike shock maul

#

I have no shame

grave topaz
#

Honestly I’m on PS5 and this game does make my pointer finger hurt when I play from mashing the trigger so much

tidal island
#

If my wrist starts hurting my care goes out a window

drowsy steppe
#

you know its bad when I have to use my middle finger instead for m1 click spams

rich quiver
tidal island
#

Fucking sire melks requisitorium is not worth joint pain

rich quiver
#

Just curious

tidal island
#

24 lol

#

I spent years playing league of legends my wrist is already on thin ice

rich quiver
grave topaz
tidal island
#

Joint pain as in repetitive strain

#

Clicking mouse buttons extremely fast for years hasn't hurt so far and I really fucking don't want it to start

#

So if I feel it I'm out

rich quiver
#

Take care of yourself better; do some stretches, take breaks
Don’t use autoclicker its pathetic - seen one dude with that
 they were bad games

tidal island
#

I've used it on 8 missions ever

drowsy steppe
#

man its just a fuckin pve game

#

not that serious lol

grave topaz
#

Honestly playing on controller may help

tidal island
#

The 8 on the weekly board lmao

grave topaz
gray ice
#

if you wanna use a hold down macro to save yourself the carpal tunnel I cannot see an issue

tidal island
#

It's not even good

acoustic dune
#

you waanna get carpal tunnrl

tidal island
#

You need heavy attacks to do anything against armor with the shock maul and shield so I was basically just sitting there face tanking everything not dealing or taking much damage at all

acoustic dune
#

to show you are a REAL gamer

tidal island
#

If you're gonna get capral tunnel get it in a pvp game at least

acoustic dune
#

i draw

tidal island
#

Then you can reture once you're old and washed and say you had your prime but had to stop

acoustic dune
#

i arleady have one

gray ice
#

im already gonna get carpal tunnel and a myriad of other problems from being a fabricator

#

im not tryna have my hobbies contribute too, that's why i don't play knife

exotic plaza
#

hag

acoustic dune
#

i hate phantom force

gray ice
#

thats bleak buddy

tidal island
#

I mean if you're talking about video game performance I'd say thats the opposite of bleak

#

Imagine peaking at like 30

#

Get a job man jesus

hexed igloo
#

i peaked at 6

#

been downhill since i snapped into consciousness

acoustic dune
#

being born was my downfall

hexed igloo
#

the lion doesnt concern himself with the weird memory gaps between ages 11-16

acoustic dune
#

shits weird

ivory canyon
#

I did not gain it yet

#

How?

hexed igloo
#

i spent my childhood going between dissassociating and being depressed

acoustic dune
#

i sit on the stair

#

all my high school year

#

beat thaat

tidal island
#

I plan on peaking at 80 as I sail across the ocean in an old boat with a picture of my late wife inlaid into the console

ivory canyon
drowsy steppe
#

the lion does not concern himself with having friends (he is desparate for friendships)

acoustic dune
tidal island
#

The lion would like friends but every person he meets is nigh subhuman

acoustic dune
#

i am a weird person that get attach to people easily

ivory canyon
#

The lion
.had a rough day
.đŸ§šâ€â™€ïž

rich quiver
gray ice
#

Do you lift finger weights

tidal island
ivory canyon
#

Im gonna have to go to work soon

#

I wanna lay in my bed more

gray ice
#

Sorry to hear that

acoustic dune
#

its not a life

#

its a grind

#

sigma

#

grindset

rich quiver
ivory canyon
#

I woke up at 4 am 2
Hours before my alarm

#

The older i get the less i sleep

rich quiver
#

Can’t wake up at a proper time
Can’t get up due to arm & leg pain like i was beaten
Its rough sometimes
Another day another dollar tho

acoustic dune
#

if i feel pain

#

its aa good day

ivory canyon
#

Atleast my body is still imtact tho

acoustic dune
#

but seriously

#

i do wish i cry more

drowsy steppe
acoustic dune
#

now i drink in the morning and go to class

ivory canyon
acoustic dune
#

the worst paart

#

it wear off

acoustic dune
rich quiver
# ivory canyon Atleast my body is still imtact tho

Mine too but this shit gets annoying to me - i wanna like wake up early, get to work early so i can finish it off early, get free meal too and have a proper day like any other normie human bean
Instead i can’t do it


acoustic dune
#

LEMME FEEL SADNESS

#

LEMME BE HUMAN

ivory canyon
rich quiver
ivory canyon
#

I see

#

I like my job too

modern lintel
acoustic dune
#

i will draw for a living someaay

#

exactly after my study

ivory marlin
#

Chat

#

Directly after this i did 54 dmg and gained 81 hp

ivory marlin
ivory marlin
#

Impulse buy a cat from vegas

#

Its that easy

void bison
empty python
#

really dont wanna make a big deal of these things but MAN what a questionable tierlist

#

All melee weapons and marks ranked by my objective standards for the October 2025 darktide patch!
00:00 intro and tiers explained
05:15 power falchions
07:25 power maul
09:48 bully clubs
12:47 chain swords
15:18 eviscerators
17:06 crusher
18:35 shock mauls
20:40 combat axes
24:02 tac axes
25:47 relic blades
28:02 force greatsword
31:06 power swo...

▶ Play video
exotic plaza
#

yeah its mister e

#

I don't even need to watch it to know its ass

empty python
frozen kernel
#

Mr. Turn the Lights On

#

Plays with reshade that blows up the brightness during lights out because "muh viewers can't see and I hate the modifier anyway"

#

Meanwhile Tarkov/Hunt Showdown streamers:

empty python
frozen kernel
signal spoke
empty python
#

I hate it when these popular Darktide youtubers have extremely flawed perspectives that ppl just eat them up...

#

Reginald however

frozen kernel
#

Uncle Regi

empty python
#

Reginald goat

signal spoke
#

Frip frop and Reginald are the only goats

frozen kernel
#

"Yo these plasma gunners are dogshit, even for us havoc players"

Changed the next day

empty python
#

Reginald actually looks at EVERY aspects, and not jsut fixate on 1-2 points of comparison

signal spoke
#

Also reginald admits the mistakes he makes and readdresses

#

On comments or follow ups

frozen kernel
#

CTRL + F in this server is a beautiful tool whenever you're wondering about most weapons

empty python
#

yeah

frozen kernel
#

Because you'll find an old argument

#

That went on for like 45 minutes

#

If the person using your setup is totally unhinged and getting math dropped on them, there's your sign to switch lmao

signal spoke
# empty python yeah

Unlike the forbidden one who does three 20 mins follow up videos after a single mistake just for video upload boost

frozen kernel
#

If people say "mmm (X) gud" you're on the right track

empty python
signal spoke
#

There's only one person in the entire server hates in the community KEKW_ogryn

#

Here have a 8 hours long video of talking about every single talent node, aura and keystone for every class

empty python
#

I barely keep track with the Darktide youtubing stuff so I got no idea

frozen kernel
#

Also hilarious that he says "oh hammer is so hard to use it's so slow" this was literally my last auric QP with thammer/flammen

#

Im not even sweating it's 2am

spare talon
#

like way higher wtf

frozen kernel
#

That's bc the mk1 is based

spare talon
#

it is
but this is mr e we're talking about

frozen kernel
#

Broken clock and all that

spare talon
#

i guess

hearty nebula
signal spoke
#

Hold up, did he put slab shield on top tier od the list?????

hearty nebula
signal spoke
#

"ready to kill god"
Meanwhile slab shield does shitty ahh boss damage

hearty nebula
#

slab shield abysmal dogshit đŸ„€

#

also dsword/combat knife in top tier when they're objectively b tier at best

#

always funny

spare talon
#

the only situation where boss damage actually matters realistically is beast of nurgle tbh

hearty nebula
#

tru

spare talon
hearty nebula
#

i just did

#

womp womp

empty python
signal spoke
#

MK3 ogryn shovel on I fear crushers tier is funny because you can demolish them so easily

#

Also boss stunlock

spare talon
hearty nebula
#

crusher on low end is fucking hilarious

#

same with rashad

empty python
hearty nebula
#

caxe

empty python
plush estuary
#

Do guys do realize it's just for attention?

ripe quest
signal spoke
#

Ain't no way he put the Ogryn folding shovels on tier above the MK3 shovel

spare talon
signal spoke
#

Now fight 30 ogryns of having to fold the shovel everytime

#

Is this even counting to havoc only?

#

Or average game sessions

spare talon
empty python
#

Dude, fucking blue ChainAxe probably got an insane glowup this patch, probably one of the better melees for Rotten Armor even

spare talon
#

was funny

empty python
signal spoke
empty python
# spare talon

you got flamer? You probably stole all the fire dmg from the psyker lol

spare talon
#

burn and soulblaze are different dots

ripe quest
# empty python hell man, literalyl EVERY single time I use Thammer in Havoc 40, I always 2nd dm...

Thammer is pretty decent but this scoreboard isn't setup right to prove efficiency in that way. Only meaningful metrics actually show a negative impact for using it, as you top boss damage but w/o it you're only doing ~500k damage which is significantly lower than others in the lobby. The lack of enemy categories also doesn't help, as some weapons such as Thammer spec into elites more than crowds for just damage.

rich quiver
ripe quest
spare talon
#

youre saying that he did 500k outside of bosses, but the 1300k IS the damage he did outside of bosses

#

ovenproof merges them

#

due to the enemy type damage being listed below

rich quiver
#

Cole yet again to the rescue

#

Pure chad

acoustic dune
#

ey cole

#

iz it true that you commited to turkey thursdaay

spare talon
#

is this what the voices in your head came up with today?

empty python
#

I only use ovenproof for all the other stats below, like warpfire, melee, ranged and stuff

spare talon
#

if you include boss damage too, then youd also be ahead of the purg psyker

empty python
#

yerp yerp

empty python
spare talon
#

tbh i think thammer is one of the easier weapons to do that with on zealot if you know how to use it well and are pretty aggressive

#

cuz you just get your total damage inflated quite a bit by eating up all the yummy boss damage

rich quiver
empty python
rich quiver
spare talon
empty python
#

YEAH

spare talon
#

strikedown attacks my beloved

rich quiver
empty python
#

man, Crucis light attacks are basically the same as Crucis's 3-thrust heavy lol

rich quiver
#

Brings me back to the 2h hammer for bardin & kruber from v2

empty python
ripe quest
empty python
#

when to chastise with light 3

rich quiver
#

Charge stops their combo & if not the crit swing does - then its heavy smackdown stunlock pogryn

spare talon
#

iirc ovenproof is more accurate

ripe quest
#

This isn't about the damage accuracy

spare talon
#

something along the lines of the native one messing up sometimes with overkill

#

then idk what you mean

ripe quest
#

If ovenproof merges the boss damage into melee (or just damage in general), and those bottom values are from ovenproof, doesn't that mean that the ~750k boss damage is merged into those bottom values instead of kept separate?

spare talon
#

ovenproof merges it into the total damage, which he doesnt have displayed

ripe quest
#

So are you saying that the boss damage is completely absent from the bottom values in that scoreboard?

#

Because that doesn't line up.

ripe quest
#

Those bottom values are from ovenproof. The ~780k boss damage is apart of those values at the bottom. This would lead to a similar issue as to what I said initially, just with the total melee damage instead of the actual/overkill damage dealt.

empty python
ripe quest
empty python
#

so did ranged dmg too, I was also using my bolter for boss dmg too

spare talon
#

it just turns out that both your non boss dmg and your melee damage numbers lined up to be roughly 1300k lmfao

empty python
carmine lance
#

hello chat, what are we talking about today

spare talon
#

numbers and data

empty python
spare talon
#

and that too

#

thammer is bad didnt you know

carmine lance
#

oh? what are his takes lol

#

HUH

ripe quest
#

Yeah, but the point is that the melee damage dealt to non-bosses is much lower than 1300k. Exact values are not possible since most of the boss damage is likely melee but no hard % is available. Should be around 550-700k melee damage to non-boss enemies.

carmine lance
ripe quest
carmine lance
#

as you should for zealot chat

empty python
#

among other things

spare talon
#

strikedown lights are so comfy

#

no wonder i love mk1 shovel

ripe quest
#

The sweep L1 on Ironhelm is genuinely bad but the strikedowns otherwise for the family are pretty versatile.

spare talon
#

the ironhelm imo is actually bad tho

signal spoke
#

I think darktide should be on the bottom tier

ripe quest
#

ripping u to shreds

signal spoke
#

Bad melee

#

Terrible melee

spare talon
acoustic dune
#

what i miss

empty python
ripe quest
# spare talon sorry for slandering your hammerblow skullcrusher ironhelm build

if u have an incredibly niche setup and a babysitter it's the best horde clear in the game also it's Thrust Skullcrusher Busy_Cat
fr though it's got better crowd output in normal crowds + the boss damage loss is only moderate breakpoint-wise. Crucis has the swag and way cooler everything but Ironhelm is the modern tiktok cousin.

spare talon
#

crucis doesnt give me a fucking anurysm with its moveset

empty python
#

I guess ppl just generally dont vibe with the heavy spam combo of ironhelm lol

signal spoke
empty python
#

but if you push-follow + heavy spam with ironhelm, it aint bad

ripe quest
#

Both the Thammers have pretty simple combos, Mk III Evis is the only real one on Zealot iykyk

empty python
#

mk2 u mean?

ripe quest
#

Long time ago they changed a bunch of names and the Mk II became the Mk III

empty python
#

ah icic

spare talon
ripe quest
#

I find you and our interactions amusing like a cute butterfly fluttering through a grove.

ripe quest
#

Only like, 2 people ragebait me proper and I think both got banned before I returned here

formal umbra
gray ice
drowsy steppe
#

anyways thammer < relic

ripe quest
spare talon
drowsy steppe
#

true..

gray ice
drowsy steppe
#

the yellow king waits..

ripe quest
# drowsy steppe the zoid and darcy

I actually don't think I had many poor interactions with the contra of zoid. iirc he made the evis guide that one time and I hated it but otherwise teeheeP7

spare talon
ripe quest
#

daily incan w

drowsy steppe
#

whys it bad again

#

I never read it clueless

gray ice
#

Well you see when someone without much knowledge of the game makes a guide

ripe quest
#

barely remember tbf. Was a lot of flavor text to give kinda mediocre quality info but take that with a huge grain of salt

gray ice
#

It may have misinformation

drowsy steppe
#

I should read it

#

fuck whats this guys handle again

ripe quest
gray ice
#

Incan take the weapon table down next it's so outta date by now

ripe quest
#

update it

#

actually make it so that it's better than the ainz guide just to ignite competition

gray ice
#

I feel like most of my game knowledge is lost to the aether by this point and trying to play to gather data is hard with my pc self-immolating

drowsy steppe
#

or is that an old quirk

ripe quest
#

It does but it's not optimal atm. Originally you did H1 QQ for efficiency, it became H1 L2 block cancel, now it's H1 L2 L3 SA/bc.

drowsy steppe
#

H1 qq 😭

#

the dark days

gleaming furnace
#

special attack / block cancel

stray summit
#

not push attack?

#

I usually push attack

#

I like that push attack

drowsy steppe
#

cancel heavy wind ups by tapping block, when you're waiting for an opening, or you letting go of the attack would mean you can't dodge an attack, tapping block would allow you cancel the heavy before windup finishes

#

I never felt the need to cancel windups damn 💀

stray summit
#

im just gonna block cancel and go straight for the push attack

glossy nimbus
#

How many of you have completed a havoc 40

#

I wanna work my level back up

spare talon
#

much many h40s

glossy nimbus
#

I mean havoc not working hours btw

#

We not employed in these parts

drowsy steppe
#

I have

#

havent played any h40s in awhile tho

glossy nimbus
#

last time It was like a fucking rave party man.

#

I just completed a havoc 19 and it was pretty fun

#

but thats just heresy difficulty I'm pretty sure?

#

I should prepare a book zealot build if I want to progress

spare talon
#

something youll learn over time is where boss triggers are, so you know where you CANT go in a fight, or if you may trigger something by moving up a bit further

#

also generally if you can/how far back you can move to ensure a closer respawn for a teammate

glossy nimbus
#

Yeah I learned some of that habit, to the point where I'm even cautious in auric lol.

spare talon
#

but thats more metagaming it

glossy nimbus
#

I also want to try and maintain like a level above 30 at least

#

but I still haven't gotten past 29

#

fuck

spare talon
#

ngl this season of havoc is kinda really fuckin rough for like 99% of people

glossy nimbus
#

Stims? yeah.

spare talon
#

rotten armor

#

and purple

#

all in the same pool

glossy nimbus
#

Oh.

#

Oh no.

#

How much health does rot mfs have

spare talon
#

same as normal

#

they just fart when they die, and have 75%-50% ranged dr based on their hp

#

it also forces a scab seed, and you still have those waves of armor like you did in the event

#

but now they can either stim or can have healing

signal spoke
#

rotten armor is fine on havoc

drowsy steppe
#

i

signal spoke
#

Only big problem is when you get rotten and stimms together

spare talon
#

or rotten and purple

#

idk i sometimes like missions that dont have 10 maulers 10 crushers and 10 bulwarks in every single encounter

carmine lance
#

I keep getting empty lobbies for auric maelstrom

#

I kinda like it

#

it's a fun challenge

drowsy steppe
#

its late night hours no

acoustic dune
#

cht

#

should i play sacktide

carmine lance
#

what

signal spoke
drowsy steppe
hexed igloo
frosty herald
carmine lance
rich quiver
carmine lance
#

it's really funny, now that I think about it

#

soloing auric maelstrom with bots is a fun challenge

#

soloing auric maelstrom with people is fucking abysmal

#

Revolving door, people staying back for no reason, going down countless times

#

Genuinely was just giving people the bot treatment after a while

#

Unless you are in my direct periphery, I will not help you because you genuinely have no impact on my success or failure

nova bone
#

Do you zealot use blood redemption talent?
I figured the 100% toughness replenshipment was good but I see other zealot players not using them
I am looking for a book build and combining it with axe

carmine lance
#

Replenishment is how fast you recharge it

spare talon
#

thats all it does

carmine lance
#

You want raw toughness back because you can actually use that

spare talon
#

second wind and enemies within enemies without give their toughness without even needing kills in the first place

#

and they give quite a lot too

carmine lance
#

Yup

#

Second wind is especially good because you should already be dodging as a zealot

spare talon
#

second wind can proc against bosses
hordes
melee elites
ranged enemies as you close in on them
etc etc

acoustic dune
#

chat..........

#

what do

nova bone
#

Thank you

nova bone
#

I have second wind atm. Was thinking of aiming for the masters retribution to protect against pox hounds

spare talon
nova bone
acoustic dune
#

i like that skill

#

its helpful for 2 situation
a mistake and doign objective

#

other then that

spare talon
#

dogs are incredibly easy to push, so id just get more practice with that
you wont have that with other classes so being good at avoiding them is just something you want

acoustic dune
#

iz nice

spare talon
nova bone
#

Now he will reply with skill issue

#

or something along those lines

acoustic dune
spare talon
#

dogs are also the easiest disabler for your team to get off you too

#

not like a trapper where they have to be at the same spot, and other enemies can hit you too

acoustic dune
#

i personally run it bc i like it
but other then that cole is right

#

also dont take any chorus node

#

shit suck

carmine lance
acoustic dune
#

thats oggy job

#

isnt it more back liner?

carmine lance
#

You’re fucking with me right

carmine lance
#

Lmao

carmine lance
#

For all the people that complain about knife zealots rushing forward and eating shit, I have to wonder

acoustic dune
#

when i say backliner i mean a blender thrown into a group of enemy

acoustic dune
#

thats why they stinky

#

shrimply as

carmine lance
#

What goes through their mind when a knife zealot rushes onward and then starts taking names

#

Like they’re actually competent

spare talon
#

zealots arent frontliners

frozen kernel
spare talon
#

cuz when you throw them to the frontline, the frontline vanishes

frozen kernel
#

Im gonna kill a psyker for the final kill

spare talon
#

crazy

acoustic dune
acoustic dune
#

a grenade

#

the bomb

#

my ex wife

#

your ex wife

#

our ex wife?

#

CRAAZY HAMBURGER

carmine lance
frosty herald
frosty herald
#

Ita funny to just delete bosses with well timed sprint stabs from relic

carmine lance
#

I don’t think that will hold up in a court of law smh

acoustic dune
#

what about the time you beat me down for corpse touching

#

smh

carmine lance
#

You were getting kinda freaky with it

acoustic dune
#

YOUR HONOUR

#

i was hungy

#

and VERY thirsty

carmine lance
#

Then why were you humping it, dawg

acoustic dune
#

i wasnt?

carmine lance
#

Smh

acoustic dune
#

to make sure theres no comfusion

#

this is not irl

#

but a minecrap corpse

carmine lance
#

Oh yeah probably good to clarify lmao

#

Anyways I should sleep

frosty herald
carmine lance
signal spoke
#

that was a bit of time staregryn

acoustic dune
#

😔

young laurel
#

Man

#

Relic blade is fun

young laurel
sterile stone
#

I return with a song of my own

unique whale
#

Infectious Zeal states it gives +10% crit to "allies in coherence". Does it inlcude the zealot themselves, or just other 3 players?

drowsy steppe
bitter anvil
drowsy steppe
carmine falcon
#

our last hotfix until next major update

#

i guess we're gonna keep crashing

frosty herald
carmine falcon
#

cant be worse than last one

frosty herald
unreal hull
#

Every game I've played counts yourself as an ally.
I've been assuming fatshark wasn't insane enough to expect us to use points on things that ONLY help our teammates

carmine falcon
carmine falcon
#

ok this is unironically doable solo with heavy

acoustic dune
#

what is?

carmine falcon
#

weekly