#zealot-class
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170 hours in a month
Ah, yeah
I just have to take breaks when it feels like fireteams aren't really pulling their weight, and I don't have the mental capacity to just repeatedly carry while playing with certain builds
I sympathized with the Veteran's hate of Psyker players, but didn't really understand until I tried playing Helbore Vet last week
Any time someone with Purg staff would M1 a group of elites that I was about to headshot, a part of my soul screamed in agony
Smiting an entire group just as I'm tracking a shot just to have the enemy start twitching as I pull the trigger? Oh boy
Helbore is fun tho
My biggest issue is like
Not being able to bear the decisions that people make on go
Last time I was pushing off a wave of bombers
Like 8
And motherfucker shot them mid air and I just dissapeared
Something I had to stress to my buddy is that "If somebody is in a net, you need to pivot what you're doing immediately to help them"
Because getting them out of the net is a lot quicker than getting them off the ground
My buddies struggle to differ if you're captured by a net, a dog, down or by a mutant
They can hear em all, but they don't know shit despite me telling em multiple times
Net and dog i get but mutant?
I wish it was easier to ping the dog on top of you
Yup.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Iirc mutie is yellow warning snd it bounces with you
Dog and trapper are both red, low, and immobile
[thump thump thump thump thump thump]
Yeah, you don't have to explain that to me
"GROAGH, GROAGH, GROAAAAAAAAAAGH" [the sound of a mutant actively slamming somebody]
They all have like 50-80 hours in game
I feel like mutant yell will be one of the final things I hear when I die
real
And I'm always the one responsible for bosses, elites, wave management and doing quests so
I'm babysitting 3 friends for the sake of just playing with em

I was playing with a random while streaming and explained to my buddy that "There's a difference between just trying to kill everything, and killing the right things"
It will be the fucking net for me
Also mutants should have like
Less hp
It doesn't matter if you steal every rager kill from your teammates. If you drop the ball on a poxburster that knocks your entire team into a mixed wave or off the map, that's just as much your fault as theirs.
Let me fucking one shot them instead of being played like a ping pong ball by 4 of em and at the same time fucked in the ass by flamers
"GOT A NET JUST FOR YOU"
I like the "I'll sell you down THERRRRRRRRRE"
Without trappers arb would be straight up unstoppable
I'd be happy to trade them
Both gone

No pls I like my dog
The bad ones imo
I don't, the amount of times I swung at it and took chip is ridiculous
You might be able to block a couple of those shots but you weren't eating the entire firing line lol
Petting the dog brings me such immense joy
I noticed the ones that sprint ahead lone wolf with arby maul had to actually stick with us
Yeah but now they got nerfed and I don't see more than 5 at a time
They neutered plasma tbh
I like the plasma gunners but I understood peoples' frustration with this new enemy that was ending runs
I'm not mad about it
Because there were a lot of situations where it would spawn snipers and plasma gunners
And any fireteam that wasn't playing pitch perfect just ate shit
Getting 15 of them in a closed space meant you getting fucked so
I think they could buff the numbers back if theyre individually this bad ngl
Even the ones that did play perfectly in havoc were getting run ended by plasma* gunners they physically couldnt dodge
It's still a very dangerous enemy if you aren't paying attention
They are a threat, but not a fucking priority anymore
Arguably so are most specials and elites so it's fair
Also, did reapers and flamers got a buff?
A reaper will tear your shit apart if you let him start shooting you in the back
Oh hey that's convenient timing lol
I don't recall reapers melting me like a bitch at any distance, and i don't recall flamers pushing me back on any difficulty
Reapers dont normally worry me ngl
Flamers always pushed back, I got a funny clip of said psyker friend from launch getting owned
Got pushed into the smelter hole in the middle
Me neither usually, but last time I encountered 1 he just gunned me down like a bitch because I ignored him like I always did
Idk, I remember always being able to just run at them through the flame at any point, but like since yesterday I wasn't able to get close to them and had to use ranged
Idk, gunners spook me more than reapers
Trappers and flamers spook me the most overall
Ye because reapers are 5 at most, gunners like 40
Gunners feel more accurate too
if theyre firing then they can push you back
I genuinely started experiencing it just yesterday
firing at you
But I stopped using unfaltering and I usually ran with a charged heavy at them
not sure but I think if theyre targeting someone else they wont
So that may be the issue
That may also be it
Because like 1 out of 4 pushes me back
Another funny question, how the fuck does dog/trapper/mutant targeting work?
when they spawn they pick out a target but they might switch
Imagine
its inconsistent at the best of times
I couldn't find the clip of my buddy getting hole'd by the tox flamer but I got this
BEware my audio is kinda loud
Dog targetting is weird
It's now a running joke with the friends I play that when a mutant spawns, I'm the target
I prefer them to trappers though
At least the dogs dont get me around corners
IMO that first dodge alone would've gotten me pounced, but somehow I was able to ultra instinct it at the last possible second with the follow up
I hate chaos beasts too
This is a really fun melee build ive been using in Auric/maelstrom missions
you know, it feels really on the nose that I'm working on an essay about autism in between darktide missions
thats how you know youre qualified
youve been in the trenches
what's a dbd
digbuttdeath
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why they went with pickaxe instead of halberd or some other poleaxe I'll never understand
certainly weren't copy pasting the vt2 pickaxe
Dogs and trappers ain't shit its the fucking muties
Dogs I can Bluetooth shove from 10m away and they whiff half the time anyway
Trappers I can slide cancel on their bitchass and onetap
Fucking muties whip around corners like they've got a pole to swing on and then throw me into tox flame/a burster 9/10 times
I'll take 20 Dogs at once over 2 mutants
I mean snipers run like pussies too
how bout both + poxbursters
Did that last night don't u remember
so a thing that's really been giving me a leg up with mutie waves or having to deal with several at once
if you never turn from facing the direction they initially come from, even when you sidestep some and they blow past you
if you always keep facing the initial contact direction
it cuts your getting grabbed % per pack by like a third
what gets you grabbed, is getting turned around facing away from their initial entrance
and the one three behind the one you just turned to look at is who gets you
See mutie train, dump combat shotgun into them, profit
it takes em like, ten full seconds to run past you, hit something and recover to get you again
if they even target you a second time
in that time the team's killed em
it feels like a you-sure kind of assertion cuz it's so counter intuitive
but just, don't stop facing the direction they come from and you'll get grabbed half as often
trust, or don't, I aint your dad I'm your daddy
You say that but I've witnessed the fuckers turn literally on a dime, a full 180 without slowing down to grab me
EXACTLY
I think once they start a charge they should be more or less completely locked to that trajectory, say with ~20° cone they can turn out to
Iâve been a full like 5 feet to the side of a mutant and still gotten grabbed. They have telekinesis
The shock maul is the best melee in the game
Only thing at its level is the psyker greatsword
Yes force greatsword made for chopping off heads like daisies
wrong zealot
Still
plus that's warrior priest, not even zealot
essay is coming along well
calling it a day and turning it in exactly like that
is that me
man cant get weapon customization cos the guy hid it on nexus tf
ah very cool thx
This is the last class I have to max. I need a build with the big sword. It has big shoes to fill after psykerâs big sword build
Is there a good build that doesnât take the keystone that requires me to die to be useful?
redhead italian man
you know you can get low without dying right
It says it gives the bonus when missing a wound
he wants a build without martydom
Can I get my steak with no juice and my lobster without butter
does shield of contempt effect apply to the attack the triggers it?
But yeah just take the bleed/crit talents and keystone in the left tree instead for a good build, or inexorable judgement to whip around like a crack addict
They really need to list the dodge benefits for that keystone fr
"missing a wound" just means in terms of health loss
You don't need to be downed or corrupted
Ah so it just means missing that health segment
Yeah your white health bar just needs to be in the zone
Pro tip
But I also kinda donât like being a couple hits away from dying. Greatsword psyker was actually pretty tanky
You take alot less dmg when low
So you can set it up ezpz
My psyker was able to take a mauler overhead and still have ~60% hp left. Is it about that tanky?
I recommend relic blade, having a lot of attack speed with it helps a ton because it has massive range and damage and keeps you safe on aurics. Shroudfield is also the bedt synergy with marty, if you haven't tried it out yet. Zealot has some massive damage resist and a passive that makes you invincible when you go down then heals you into perfect martyrdom range
This build is probably not optimal but I find it fun to blend things up
I should actually lab out how little damage you take but my heart tells me it should be possible
Psyker has that 33% toughness dmg resist at high peril and zealot has a 37.5% one active all the time with martyrdom, but psyker is gonna have more base toughness so... idk. I personally don't even run a toughness curio on Zealot, it's less about tanking hits and more about slapping everything around you in the face before they hit you in the first place
Having the invincibility passive every 2 minutes makes eating the occasional crusher overhead not game losing regardless
Psyker has a lot of other DR sources too. 25% base DR at all times if youâre below 100% peril
Scrierâs gives 10% for free
And you get another 10 when you are at high peril
Doesn't that have anti synergy with the 33% one tho?
So idk the actual values there
Bleed for the emperor, good balance exist also
I took literally every node that mentions giving DR and I was extremely tanky at all times. So it may seem that way on paper but in practice it just works
You donât unlock the greatsword until rank 16??? Tf am I supposed to use until then thatâs the whole reason why I even want to play this class
melee scriers is disgustingly tanky lol
Ok I think the reason every zealot build seems to run martyrdom is cuz these other 2 keystones seem kinda mid
Blessed Sigmar
Have we finally left The Build stage?
They're all good for certain things, marty just got really juiced in the tree rework
ij is the only shit one
blazing piety is good but it's definitely weapon dependent
piety is still good on finesse weapons and is tankier than marty due to having same tdr but having more hp and toughness
also stalwart exist
Is it good for greatsword though
piety basically work for everything
if you want to tank ig
but marty is better for relic blade
Went through the trees, the biggest thing to keep in mind is that to run Martyrdom in the first place you gotta give up toughness curios so you need to account for that
man having an actual sight makes aiming the bolters so much fucking easier holy shit
Erm actually it's supposed to feel like shit to use because you're a little humie
human ingenuity birthed the reflex sight im gonna fuckin use it
you can still run 1 toughness curio for marty
due to tax you're not running shield of contempt in any actual build lol
good balance is not good enough to justify taking it
Honestly I feel like IJ has potential, it feels amazing when you actually have the damn stacks going because you can dodge all over the place so fast you're basically flash stepping.
bad uptime and value for points spend
SoC is interesting
it only tiggers on health loss
and it has a global cooldown
between everyone
Yeah that's the unfortunate part
but its okay as an DR talent
But I feel like 2 zealots on the same team both having it is rare enough where I just donât care
the uptime is pretty much always
a basic fotf martydom build is basically like this, note depending on the weapon you can either path through desperation or providence
depend on weapon you might want duellist
Ngl I feel like riposte is just dead.
desperation is not really worth it on something like relic blade which is high stamina and low usage
but for crusher and knife it is essential
I would rather have SoC than riposte these days
And I really feel like pious cutthroat is mid now too
Right side tree can be cut for a lot of free points elsewhere
I forgor

Night
I need to lab out how much Punishment lets you stagger with relic blade now
Just from running it feels good but could be placebo
You need 86% uptime on pious cutthroat to make it break even with the passive Martyr's purpose so that also feels like dead content
Youâre missing the 25% from just a dream
You mean owtw?
I take both
oh yeah owtw
Oh and psyker is also nigh immune to ranged attacks
With force sword blocking?
Empathetic evasion
EE deflector bubble
Crits give you ranged attack immunity
Ah
Ngl psyker is my least played class, but when I do play I feel like I prefer blocking ranged attacks to that one
I feel like when I'm critting something in melee is usually when I don't give af about ranged attacks
Ah, but you can dive into crowds without worrying about being surrounded by ranged enemies
I like shriek 
That's the magic
The magic is also that I just do that regardless lmao
You just beeline to the first crittable entity and snowball from there
Seems very useful for reaper spam though
I'm sliding around 24/7 on muscle memory so I don't really think about ranged that much, I usually die when I'm picking up some random shit off the ground and a firing squad is behind me that I don't know about
When I leveled ogryn I played him as melee and I felt ranged enemies were his biggest weakness by far, though heâs also a big target
Oh yeah definitely
||Zealot needs a Crusader Shield so we can do that too.||
The only class where toughness regen speed on curios isn't trolling tbh
Pray to the emperor to blind your enemies (pop shroudfield)
Well I can definitely say zealot gets the worst starting loadout of the classes
Love me some Shroudfield builds
Alternatively:
Shredder auto pistol đ
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shredder is good
Not an all 15 one with no blessings
No weapon at all 15 with no blessings is good
Itâs definitely worse than the other classesâ starting guns
Shredder pistol/Relic Blade using shroudfield is a good combo over bolt gun?
Veteran infantry lasgun on starting difficulty is fine
Its better than inflas
Idk what you're shooting the shredder pistol at tbh
||Naw not the same. 3 of 5 class's can block guns and I want that Crusader Shield to live my true 40k holy warrior dream. Stealth is not going to do that for me.||
Maniac and unyielding
idk either. its why im asking
Nah inflas was at least accurate enough to hit heads at decent ranges
Shredder works fine with Relic as a high sprint speed secondary that can also toughness print
Ok but it sucks as a starter weapon compared to the other classesâ lol
Luckily zealot doesn't need a gun in low diff
ill just stick with boltgun and relic blade
I would still like one because in typical Darktide random fashion, no one shoots at ranged enemies especially in lower diffs lol
Recon lasgun and Infantry autogun have the same sprint speed and can auto dodge ranged attacks which procs all of zealots many dodge passives including toughness regen, I prefer them for that. You only every shoot snipers and maybe trappers, having an 80 mobility one and sprinting then popping shroudfield lets you haul fucking ass
this shit so ass đ
Ran this where I'd shroudfield backstab the boss then if it was still alive mag dump them with the top 2 talents on the tree for 25% close ranged damage and 25% flanking ranged damage
Iâll probably just end up running bolter or bolt pistol cuz I like them more than those
That was a silly one I would use it was just an image I had on me
Yeah I use bolter normally for unloading onto crusher stacks
But ngl I might switch back
I just don't really need a ranged weapon most of the time and having it as a pure utility slot for running away or into fire is nice
Because relic sword is so slow
If infantry autogun had a fucking scope I'd like it a lot more
This isn't the right mark btw I just clicked one of the infantry autoguns
Man this starting axe sucks too
Buh
You should
Rashad is a CC weapon
One of the best hordeclear weapons in the game
lol no
and a dawg ass combat axe
it can't keep up with havoc
So ass it doesn't have bromentum
the horde clear is only good in auric
"Rashad is one of the best weapons in the game"
I hear they're adding skill trees to the classes
Rashad is only competent with bromentum without it its a cleaveless joke
Yeah
it only decent in auric
it doesn't have good enough horde clear or single target for havoc
Bromentum is the best example of a design issue
Yeah its only dueling sword or nothing around these parts
also it just shit itself the moment you get stuck in a rager
tbf push attack alway stagger them
I'm a dueling sword hippie I never use it
This axe is definitely worse than the starting weapons of the other classes thatâs for sure
Shit on vet and ogryn the starting weapons are my fav melees on those classes in general
I felt the same way
This class has a funny ass node. â4% toughness on ranged killâ. Vet literally has just a better version of that lol
Yeah...
yes the ranged class does get the better ranged talent
Our ranged weapons are for mag dumping into people's ass
Im glad we got some ranged, i wish anoint got a bit further distance falloff
I may just be silly but I really do prefer taking 3 would curios still for martyrdom
Huh Iâve never seen or heard anything of the crusher before. Itâs just kind of a big shock maul
Yeah it really struggles to kill crushers these days
Interesting but probably not amazing
Not really
Crusher lets you ragdoll everything trying to fight you
Just pa- light all over them
and it's honestly pretty decent at crushers
Man this class has 4 big weapons and vet has 0 đ
I prefer this way even post changes
you strikedown loop crushers until they die
Granted Iâve only ever seen people use thunder hammer or relic sword
That is a tremendous amount of work to kill 2 crushers
Power Spear when Fatshark
Jesus that's grim if that's a highlight.
Eviscerator Chainaxe When Fatshark
Use your special more - you stack SC = more dmg
After the power axe.
How to kill crushers with le crusher: step one, pull out your bolter
Step 2: activate shroudfield
After mag dumping
crusher kills em just fine
Use hammerblow; youâll see some magic
Me when a purple crusher blob is running at me but it's fine because I have 2 hours until bedtime anyway so I can kill them with my crusher
(It took 3)
are ya tho
yea
I would sayâŠ
Depends
my opinion also applies on the hammer
maybe you can push it but I havent tested
hi hello
I would rather have my melee weapon kill them as fast as possible as the alternative of fighting a crusher at close range is getting bonked and dying
MALARKEY???
allo
WHY AARE THEE AWAKE
its mid day for Mal what
hi man from the mirror
its 12:47 PM you dingus
french timezone headass
Once you can dodge consistently this becomes less of an issue
Yea but if youâre in a small area or somewhere blocked off by a horde vs 3-5 of them that becomes a little out of the question
you can spot dodge crusher overheads
crusher does not take very long to kill crushers, and you can toss em around with special if you need it
There are plenty of melees that can kill them in 3 hits or less so Iâd prefer to use those
Special->heavy 1
Problem solved
Everyone wants to kite out one crusher for 15 hits in a row until they look behind them and see 2 ragers and a trapper (they have no dodges)
if it aint a one shotting weapon bad
this is how you gauge weapon viability
if you're taking 15 hits to kill a crusher with the crusher you fucked up bad somewhere
in a world where dueling sword one shots crushers
Dueling sword, power sword, shovel, moonlight greatsword, hammerâŠ
I hope relic blade can kill them fast
Relic blade chops them up quick
yea I like relic
Heavy heavy stab
shouldve had faster base weapon attack speed tho
And if you want literally just spam push attack
Eh it's fine just go marty
I don't even use the push attack 10% attack speed talent I can't feel it in practice
Arbitrator is crazy though with the perfect block talent and the rest
what is bro yapping about
Only class I use an autoclicker on
perfect block is so fucking ass in practice
Git gud
I only every press the block button to push ngl
One talent for 15% block cost 15% damage and 15% attack speed
yeah because that literally the only thing the block button is used for unless you're psyker or using shield weapon
this ain't vt2 where block is actually viable
blocking has its uses
is it worth using perfect block talent over literally everything else though
literally everything is better and more consistent
No it really isnât
That talent is so stat inflated
And you can proc it instantly all the time
Literally just use it lol
Block for 0.1 seconds then push and swing
Dodging still seems strictly better
Mainly since you can charge heavies while dodging
You need to do it once every 8 seconds I'm not saying you should sit in melee with your shield up soectating
m-my f-f-finger has a-arthritis
ITS MY EMOTIONAL SUPPORT MOUSE OKAY
THE AUTOCLICKER IS INCIDENTAL
I installed it a couple days ago when I wanted to farm weeklys on the arby without trying
Lazyass
Yes
I can understand auto click users
That shit hurts man
knife's mk6 push attack spamming fucking hurts my index lol
Mission after mission of max attack speed confident strike shock maul
I have no shame
Honestly Iâm on PS5 and this game does make my pointer finger hurt when I play from mashing the trigger so much
If my wrist starts hurting my care goes out a window
you know its bad when I have to use my middle finger instead for m1 click spams
My condolences⊠not because of your fingers⊠but because you play on console đ„ 
Fucking sire melks requisitorium is not worth joint pain
How old are you exacly?
Just curious

And having already joint pain from playing video games?
YIKES
Well thatâs your mistake
Joint pain as in repetitive strain
Clicking mouse buttons extremely fast for years hasn't hurt so far and I really fucking don't want it to start
So if I feel it I'm out
Take care of yourself better; do some stretches, take breaks
Donât use autoclicker its pathetic - seen one dude with that⊠they were bad games

I've used it on 8 missions ever
Honestly playing on controller may help
The 8 on the weekly board lmao
But honestly yea this. It isnât competitive it doesnât really matter
if you wanna use a hold down macro to save yourself the carpal tunnel I cannot see an issue
It's not even good
nah
you waanna get carpal tunnrl
You need heavy attacks to do anything against armor with the shock maul and shield so I was basically just sitting there face tanking everything not dealing or taking much damage at all
to show you are a REAL gamer
If you're gonna get capral tunnel get it in a pvp game at least
i draw
Then you can reture once you're old and washed and say you had your prime but had to stop
i arleady have one
im already gonna get carpal tunnel and a myriad of other problems from being a fabricator
im not tryna have my hobbies contribute too, that's why i don't play knife
i arleaady passed my prime
hag
i hate phantom force
thats bleak buddy
I mean if you're talking about video game performance I'd say thats the opposite of bleak
Imagine peaking at like 30
Get a job man jesus
rough
i peaked at 6
been downhill since i snapped into consciousness
the lion doesnt concern himself with the weird memory gaps between ages 11-16
đ
i gain conciouness when i was in class
shits weird
i spent my childhood going between dissassociating and being depressed
I plan on peaking at 80 as I sail across the ocean in an old boat with a picture of my late wife inlaid into the console
Why shit on the stairs?
the lion does not concern himself with having friends (he is desparate for friendships)
too shy and thought people hate me
The lion would like friends but every person he meets is nigh subhuman
i am a weird person that get attach to people easily
The lionâŠ.had a rough dayâŠ.đ§ââïž
Its his own health tho; he should take care of himself not ignore the problem by using mods
Do you lift finger weights
The lion went through that phase and now cannot feel attachment to anyone anymore
Sorry to hear that
now i go to scool study go home
its not a life
its a grind
sigma
grindset
SameâŠ
Canât wake up at a proper time
Canât get up due to arm & leg pain like i was beaten
Its rough sometimes
Another day another dollar tho
Yeah same
Atleast my body is still imtact tho
I feel that
now i drink in the morning and go to class
Dont cry babygirl
you dont get it i hate melancholia
Mine too but this shit gets annoying to me - i wanna like wake up early, get to work early so i can finish it off early, get free meal too and have a proper day like any other normie human bean
Instead i canât do itâŠ

Sounds like you need a different job maybe
Nah job is good⊠just getting to it now is bad
Ive been checking my room camera all trip and concretes barely been moving from my bed
YOU LIVE A BETTER LIFE THEN ME
really dont wanna make a big deal of these things but MAN what a questionable tierlist
All melee weapons and marks ranked by my objective standards for the October 2025 darktide patch!
00:00 intro and tiers explained
05:15 power falchions
07:25 power maul
09:48 bully clubs
12:47 chain swords
15:18 eviscerators
17:06 crusher
18:35 shock mauls
20:40 combat axes
24:02 tac axes
25:47 relic blades
28:02 force greatsword
31:06 power swo...
His reasoning for the Thammer makes me wanna kms
Mr. Turn the Lights On
Plays with reshade that blows up the brightness during lights out because "muh viewers can't see and I hate the modifier anyway"
Meanwhile Tarkov/Hunt Showdown streamers:
i dont even watch his vids but damn, L
@hearty nebula is blocked because they called him out lmao
https://x.com/helldivers2/status/1982595623024279614?t=FV-2YPWsMFGEHPpbmk5BTQ&s=19 i ain't installing 130GB of shit for this
I hate it when these popular Darktide youtubers have extremely flawed perspectives that ppl just eat them up...
Reginald however

Uncle Regi
Reginald goat
Frip frop and Reginald are the only goats
"Yo these plasma gunners are dogshit, even for us havoc players"
Changed the next day
Reginald actually looks at EVERY aspects, and not jsut fixate on 1-2 points of comparison

Also reginald admits the mistakes he makes and readdresses
On comments or follow ups
CTRL + F in this server is a beautiful tool whenever you're wondering about most weapons
yeah
Because you'll find an old argument
That went on for like 45 minutes
If the person using your setup is totally unhinged and getting math dropped on them, there's your sign to switch lmao
Unlike the forbidden one who does three 20 mins follow up videos after a single mistake just for video upload boost
If people say "mmm (X) gud" you're on the right track
which one? cant say I know lol
There's only one person in the entire server hates in the community 
Here have a 8 hours long video of talking about every single talent node, aura and keystone for every class
I barely keep track with the Darktide youtubing stuff so I got no idea
Also hilarious that he says "oh hammer is so hard to use it's so slow" this was literally my last auric QP with thammer/flammen
Im not even sweating it's 2am
he put the mk1 shovel higher than i expected
like way higher wtf
That's bc the mk1 is based
it is
but this is mr e we're talking about
Broken clock and all that
i guess
i got in his thumbnail lol
"ready to kill god"
Meanwhile slab shield does shitty ahh boss damage
slab shield abysmal dogshit đ„
also dsword/combat knife in top tier when they're objectively b tier at best
always funny
the only situation where boss damage actually matters realistically is beast of nurgle tbh
tru
no you cant just say this and get away with it
hell man, literalyl EVERY single time I use Thammer in Havoc 40, I always 2nd dmg (only behind inferno tho). And giga boss dmg, it's basically a skill issue. Bro didnt even talk about how insane its light attacks are.
MK3 ogryn shovel on I fear crushers tier is funny because you can demolish them so easily
Also boss stunlock
bro with thammer i WAS beating the purg psyker
some psykers are pretty crap with their soulblazing ngl lmao
caxe
he put the green folding shovel in i fear crusher is crazy shit...the thing basically has insane crusher dmg with its special heavy, and basically guaranteed stagger too. Hell it even has better cleave than the basic Shovel, with good push-follow...
Do guys do realize it's just for attention?

Ain't no way he put the Ogryn folding shovels on tier above the MK3 shovel
yeah lmao
Now fight 30 ogryns of having to fold the shovel everytime
Is this even counting to havoc only?
Or average game sessions
i have a clip somewhere where reg is like "yeah we wanted to get a havoc win today so we summoned the big guns" after he kidnapped me
Dude, fucking blue ChainAxe probably got an insane glowup this patch, probably one of the better melees for Rotten Armor even
was funny
sah?
"Cole wake up, we need footage with you"
you got flamer? You probably stole all the fire dmg from the psyker lol
thats not how dots work
and there was no psyker
burn and soulblaze are different dots
Thammer is pretty decent but this scoreboard isn't setup right to prove efficiency in that way. Only meaningful metrics actually show a negative impact for using it, as you top boss damage but w/o it you're only doing ~500k damage which is significantly lower than others in the lobby. The lack of enemy categories also doesn't help, as some weapons such as Thammer spec into elites more than crowds for just damage.
ok but what about mine 
Yeah; Mr E does not dissapoint in bad takes

Yours is setup better for it ye. Next step up would be using Power DI to get rid of scoreboard inaccuracies and to get specific enemy damage but what you have is fine.
GJ man

oh wait exhil youre not taking into account that thats OG scoreboard
it seperates boss and non boss damage, its not overlapped
youre saying that he did 500k outside of bosses, but the 1300k IS the damage he did outside of bosses
ovenproof merges them
due to the enemy type damage being listed below
If that's the case then nvm.
is this what the voices in your head came up with today?
yeah i'm not using ovenproof for the boss dmg, the boss dmg is from the OG scoreboard
I only use ovenproof for all the other stats below, like warpfire, melee, ranged and stuff
if you include boss damage too, then youd also be ahead of the purg psyker
yerp yerp
I was actually always wondering whether it counts into the total dmg or not with the OG scoreboard, so thank you sah 
tbh i think thammer is one of the easier weapons to do that with on zealot if you know how to use it well and are pretty aggressive
cuz you just get your total damage inflated quite a bit by eating up all the yummy boss damage
It was not; thought it was common knowledge but yeah - impressive my friend; keep up the good work 
yeah, you have to utilize the light attacks tho, most thunderhammer users I've seen since Bound By Duty think they can just roll through with just heavy attacking lol
And elites; dat overkill dmg ainât gonna ramp itself up

it is insane how no one actually uses them
YEAH
strikedown attacks my beloved
Lights are nice, especially the 3rd one
man, Crucis light attacks are basically the same as Crucis's 3-thrust heavy lol
Brings me back to the 2h hammer for bardin & kruber from v2
yeah I use it so much I've basically got down to memory when to light3 lol
@spare talon If this were the case, assuming the boss damage is primarily melee wouldn't that make the 1302k at the bottom lower, as it's apart of ovenproof? Would need power DI to get specific values.
when to chastise with light 3
I like to use h1 for ragers; its soo good
Charge stops their combo & if not the crit swing does - then its heavy smackdown stunlock 
native scoreboard and ovenproof always come out with slightly different records
iirc ovenproof is more accurate
This isn't about the damage accuracy
something along the lines of the native one messing up sometimes with overkill
then idk what you mean
If ovenproof merges the boss damage into melee (or just damage in general), and those bottom values are from ovenproof, doesn't that mean that the ~750k boss damage is merged into those bottom values instead of kept separate?
ovenproof merges it into the total damage, which he doesnt have displayed
So are you saying that the boss damage is completely absent from the bottom values in that scoreboard?
Because that doesn't line up.
no
Those bottom values are from ovenproof. The ~780k boss damage is apart of those values at the bottom. This would lead to a similar issue as to what I said initially, just with the total melee damage instead of the actual/overkill damage dealt.
yeah the boss dmg does count into the Total melee dmg from ovenproof below
Yeah that's what I'm saying
so did ranged dmg too, I was also using my bolter for boss dmg too
it just turns out that both your non boss dmg and your melee damage numbers lined up to be roughly 1300k lmfao

hello chat, what are we talking about today
numbers and data
Mister E's terrible tier list
Yeah, but the point is that the melee damage dealt to non-bosses is much lower than 1300k. Exact values are not possible since most of the boss damage is likely melee but no hard % is available. Should be around 550-700k melee damage to non-boss enemies.
what even is his reasoning
scoreboard math using wet napkins and prayer
as you should for zealot chat
terrible take on Thammer when bro probably doesnt even know it has insane light attacks lol
among other things
The sweep L1 on Ironhelm is genuinely bad but the strikedowns otherwise for the family are pretty versatile.
the ironhelm imo is actually bad tho
I think darktide should be on the bottom tier
ripping u to shreds
sorry for slandering your hammerblow skullcrusher ironhelm build
but its push->heavy is pretty nice tho, good non-power dmg, good stagger, great for fight Crushers with it. Tho yeah not a fan of its light attacks
if u have an incredibly niche setup and a babysitter it's the best horde clear in the game also it's Thrust Skullcrusher 
fr though it's got better crowd output in normal crowds + the boss damage loss is only moderate breakpoint-wise. Crucis has the swag and way cooler everything but Ironhelm is the modern tiktok cousin.
crucis doesnt give me a fucking anurysm with its moveset
I guess ppl just generally dont vibe with the heavy spam combo of ironhelm lol
but if you push-follow + heavy spam with ironhelm, it aint bad
Both the Thammers have pretty simple combos, Mk III Evis is the only real one on Zealot iykyk
mk2 u mean?
Long time ago they changed a bunch of names and the Mk II became the Mk III
ah icic
mk2 you mean?
my entire purpose is to ragebait you and you know it
I find you and our interactions amusing like a cute butterfly fluttering through a grove.
Only like, 2 people ragebait me proper and I think both got banned before I returned here
I just finished skimming through it and I had to do a double take over the thunder hammer, genuinely insane
He waited patiently in the shadows to emerge again
the zoid and darcy
anyways thammer < relic
Like thanos waiting for the throngler and odin to pass away before gathering the bodily rocks of the cosmos or whatever that movie was about
this just in: purgatus is better than infantry lasgun
true..
It's not Dark King Grutmore's Edge of Annihilation, but I wouldn't want to be on the other end of the Throngler either
the yellow king waits..
I actually don't think I had many poor interactions with the contra of zoid. iirc he made the evis guide that one time and I hated it but otherwise 
i think my favorite thing was incan just remembering it was pinned and deleted it one day
daily incan w
Well you see when someone without much knowledge of the game makes a guide
barely remember tbf. Was a lot of flavor text to give kinda mediocre quality info but take that with a huge grain of salt
It may have misinformation
Incan take the weapon table down next it's so outta date by now
update it
actually make it so that it's better than the ainz guide just to ignite competition

I feel like most of my game knowledge is lost to the aether by this point and trying to play to gather data is hard with my pc self-immolating
fuck does current evis (the OG mark at least) has a looping h1 > l2
or is that an old quirk
It does but it's not optimal atm. Originally you did H1 QQ for efficiency, it became H1 L2 block cancel, now it's H1 L2 L3 SA/bc.
SA/bc?
special attack / block cancel
cancel heavy wind ups by tapping block, when you're waiting for an opening, or you letting go of the attack would mean you can't dodge an attack, tapping block would allow you cancel the heavy before windup finishes
I never felt the need to cancel windups damn đ
im just gonna block cancel and go straight for the push attack
much many h40s
Any tips and tricks? I know not to run far ahead and stick very close together w the team
last time It was like a fucking rave party man.
I just completed a havoc 19 and it was pretty fun
but thats just heresy difficulty I'm pretty sure?
I should prepare a book zealot build if I want to progress
something youll learn over time is where boss triggers are, so you know where you CANT go in a fight, or if you may trigger something by moving up a bit further
also generally if you can/how far back you can move to ensure a closer respawn for a teammate
Yeah I learned some of that habit, to the point where I'm even cautious in auric lol.
but thats more metagaming it
Hm I see.
I also want to try and maintain like a level above 30 at least
but I still haven't gotten past 29
fuck
ngl this season of havoc is kinda really fuckin rough for like 99% of people
Stims? yeah.
same as normal
they just fart when they die, and have 75%-50% ranged dr based on their hp
it also forces a scab seed, and you still have those waves of armor like you did in the event
but now they can either stim or can have healing
rotten armor is fine on havoc
i
Only big problem is when you get rotten and stimms together
or rotten and purple
idk i sometimes like missions that dont have 10 maulers 10 crushers and 10 bulwarks in every single encounter
I keep getting empty lobbies for auric maelstrom
I kinda like it
it's a fun challenge
its late night hours no
what
this has to be fake, please let it be fake
Those are my favourite 
it's really funny, now that I think about it
soloing auric maelstrom with bots is a fun challenge
soloing auric maelstrom with people is fucking abysmal
Revolving door, people staying back for no reason, going down countless times
Genuinely was just giving people the bot treatment after a while
Unless you are in my direct periphery, I will not help you because you genuinely have no impact on my success or failure
Do you zealot use blood redemption talent?
I figured the 100% toughness replenshipment was good but I see other zealot players not using them
I am looking for a book build and combining it with axe
Replenishment is how fast you recharge it
that changes how much toughness you get from a melee kill from 5% to 10%
thats all it does
You want raw toughness back because you can actually use that
second wind and enemies within enemies without give their toughness without even needing kills in the first place
and they give quite a lot too
Yup
Second wind is especially good because you should already be dodging as a zealot
second wind can proc against bosses
hordes
melee elites
ranged enemies as you close in on them
etc etc
Thank you
dont you doge anyway
I have second wind atm. Was thinking of aiming for the masters retribution to protect against pox hounds
i wouldnt waste a talent point on that
the knock back on hit?
Yes
i like that skill
its helpful for 2 situation
a mistake and doign objective
other then that
dogs are incredibly easy to push, so id just get more practice with that
you wont have that with other classes so being good at avoiding them is just something you want
iz nice
what about when u forgor
itll help remind you to not
dogs are also the easiest disabler for your team to get off you too
not like a trapper where they have to be at the same spot, and other enemies can hit you too
i personally run it bc i like it
but other then that cole is right
also dont take any chorus node
shit suck
Yes but you should especially be dodging as a front liner
you call zealot a front liner?
thats oggy job
isnt it more back liner?
Youâre fucking with me right
Lmao
For all the people that complain about knife zealots rushing forward and eating shit, I have to wonder
when i say backliner i mean a blender thrown into a group of enemy
well they aaint me
thats why they stinky
shrimply as
What goes through their mind when a knife zealot rushes onward and then starts taking names
Like theyâre actually competent
zealots arent frontliners

cuz when you throw them to the frontline, the frontline vanishes
Im gonna kill a psyker for the final kill
crazy
remenber to barrel your teamage
so nuke
a grenade
the bomb
my ex wife
your ex wife
our ex wife?
CRAAZY HAMBURGER
Just like how you blew me up with the turret 
Its crazy to me that people cant figure out frontliner shroudfield
tbf
i didnt know
Ita funny to just delete bosses with well timed sprint stabs from relic
I donât think that will hold up in a court of law smh
You were doing more than just touching the corpse
You were getting kinda freaky with it
Then why were you humping it, dawg
i wasnt?
Smh
The animatronics do get a bit quirky at night

that was a bit of time 
moral idiocy
đ
Truly a tide moment, nice PFP btw
No bad man not bad
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Infectious Zeal states it gives +10% crit to "allies in coherence". Does it inlcude the zealot themselves, or just other 3 players?
just the other players
Is that auric?
shiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttt
indeed
current weekly is pure pain
cant be worse than last one
shared health
Every game I've played counts yourself as an ally.
I've been assuming fatshark wasn't insane enough to expect us to use points on things that ONLY help our teammates
its solo mode time? 
ok this is unironically doable solo with heavy
what is?
weekly


