zealot-class

[drowsy steppe]

those are the vibes

[minor pebble]

please

[reef plaza]

But if last character release is anything to go off of

[delicate shadow]

the malding would be sublime

[reef plaza]

New class is a sister

[sterile stone]

Mister of battle

[plush estuary]

of thorn?

[drowsy steppe]

if its not sisters as much as I hoped for, its probably skitarii

[gray ice]

What's your definition of fun

Mister sister

[drowsy steppe]

I just know youre giggling at me making these assumptions of new class rn

[reef plaza]

Because Arbi came out with a arbi dlc added to rogue trader

Boltgun 2 is adding a sister

[drowsy steppe]

damn playtester privileges

[sterile stone]

Choose violence

[reef plaza]

So we (if the pattern repeats) will get a sister of battle as well

[sterile stone]

Punt him like a little league football

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[gray ice]

Don't remind me that exists

I beg of you

Looking like a damn worm seizing up

[delicate shadow]

just gonna say

we don't claim her

[minor pebble]

whatever i can change to not be using relic blade

[full nebula]

Certified hood classic

[minor pebble]

nothing against it just bored of that and evisc

[sterile stone]

This dead ass reminds me of the dude who had that freak out about the rick and Morty sauce and McDonald’s

[reef plaza]

Anyway if it is a sister I hope we get order of the valiant heart as a personality/cosmetic

They’re my favorite

[drowsy steppe]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a023197c-1bf7-4a39-8eb6-440baffcabf4/relic-stealth-oneshot?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[full nebula]

REEEE REEE REEE

The sauce

[gray ice]

Then use Marty or IJ and some different weapons

[drowsy steppe]

maybe come december the steel legion set comes back

[sterile stone]

Ngl I just want the sailor moon sister if battle caus that shit would piss so many people out and it’d be so funny if they do it

[drowsy steppe]

I wanna buy that zealot helmet

[full nebula]

All this hysteria over some fucking dipping sauce

[drowsy steppe]

its the personality that gives off the most psychopathic vibes

or the sociopathic ones

if its for me

[sterile stone]

A classic

[gray ice]

Crusher is good fun. Works with all the keystones so you can play around with what bonuses you like most

[sterile stone]

Which one

[gray ice]

Original prolly

Hasn't returned a while afaik

[sterile stone]

Praying it don’t

[gray ice]

Why tho

[sterile stone]

I need to gate keep my wardrobe

[full nebula]

I hope admech has the option for built in voice changers

[gray ice]

I knew he wasn't shit

I have it too, think we've had a monopoly long enough buddy

[drowsy steppe]

livin it up

[hexed igloo]

Freak out at McDonald's doesn't narrow it down much at all

[drowsy steppe]

when the function got no one

[sterile stone]

I mean you think they’re gonna bring back the og Krieg fits?

[gray ice]

Eventually yea

[sterile stone]

I legit buying that shit for veteran

It looks so ass

[spare talon]

god i love these moebian hordes

[reef plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-gif-15656567

This guy

[hexed igloo]

I be leaving the function after 6 beers and putting everyone's keys in the microwave

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

Yep that’s the one

[hexed igloo]

I prefer the time that mchomeless lady was mcsoliciting mcsex in exchange for nuggets

[sterile stone]

Ngl I might call it early since I don’t have a working pc to even play a damn thing on and my friend wants to have breakfast in the am

[reef plaza]

I’d probably do some sinful things if I got hungry enough

I’m determined not to die

[sterile stone]

But I’m waiting to see just how tired I get in the next 30

[hexed igloo]

How long between meals for you to get on your knees

[reef plaza]

Hmmm

[drowsy steppe]

ooof that fucking sucks, its fine tho lol

[hexed igloo]

15 minutes?

[gray ice]

jazz is definitely the vibe of the night

[reef plaza]

3 weeks

[hard nexus]

yes

[reef plaza]

…maybe 2 depends how hard the pain gets

[hard nexus]

yes

[sterile stone]

You just reminded me

[hard nexus]

i can be placed there

[drowsy steppe]

dude I cant find the steel legion rotation image

[hexed igloo]

I give you 1 week max

[sterile stone]

My teakwood candle is still on my case

[reef plaza]

Fair

[hexed igloo]

You think you hard but you aint

[reef plaza]

I’d probably resort to other things for the first week

[gray ice]

my boi really got the teakwood essence

lord how could you

[plush estuary]

yippee

[reef plaza]

2nd week of probably cave to THAT specifically

[hexed igloo]

Right it's not on your knees if you're bending over instead

[sterile stone]

Listen

[reef plaza]

No I mean more humiliation or crime

[sterile stone]

When your room smells good

[reef plaza]

I’d like
Steal something

[sterile stone]

You sleep good

[reef plaza]

If I’ve been starving for a week

[hexed igloo]

Depending on the state it's both

[sterile stone]

Unless you’re asmondgold

[placid fiber]

Jokes on you... I have insomnia...

[sterile stone]

Then you only sleep when the roaches kiss you goodnight

[gray ice]

I just think it's funny I watched a jjk abridged series and that shit got brought up in the context of being broke

[drowsy steppe]

this is the zealot steel legionnaire helmet I wanna buy

[reef plaza]

Now tell me

How long would YOU last

Without food

[gray ice]

my sides now that im seeing it again

[reef plaza]

Until you caved to that

[hexed igloo]

About 10 minutes longer than you

The only thing I care about is being better than you specifically

[sterile stone]

But nah ima try to get some early sleep

[reef plaza]

What if I wanna be better than you

[drowsy steppe]

ya boy finally had actual quality sleep today

[sterile stone]

I’ll catch you scrubs later

[drowsy steppe]

bye args

[hexed igloo]

You can't, it's impossible

[reef plaza]

Bye

[hexed igloo]

May as well give up 30 mins in

[placid fiber]

Sleep tight

[reef plaza]

What if we starve together

[hexed igloo]

Thats gay wtf no

[placid fiber]

[hexed igloo]

But also like I've done it before with no incentive of starvation so like meh

[full nebula]

What kind of possible weapons? Also on a scale of 99-100%, how likely is it that knives and duelling swords won't be on it?

[reef plaza]

Fair

[sullen forge]

100% we wont see shit like that on them tbh

we'll see more wacky weaponry though

[hexed igloo]

Power gauntlets pls

I want to throw hands

[full nebula]

Need fist weapons yesyes

[drowsy steppe]

galvaknuckles..

[hexed igloo]

Let me snap a poxwalker over my knee like bane

[full nebula]

Ogryn needs big 2h hammer next update pls

[hexed igloo]

XXL thammer

[hexed igloo]

Chain greataxe

[hexed igloo]

Not a fan of the corpo armor sets ngl they're too slimline

[full nebula]

Need these on ogryn

[drowsy steppe]

slim fit armor kekw

[hexed igloo]

If Kyle crane can use it ogryn can

There's not enough plating on em

[full nebula]

Theyd probably do something big bully club like idk. These ones are from fallout so they're pretty basic

[drowsy steppe]

real shit

[exotic plaza]

bruh that just bully club

[drowsy steppe]

I would become a statistic dawg 😭

[hexed igloo]

Why his eyed

[full nebula]

I wish they'd add another knife that you can horizontal poke really fast. Like a shank

https://tenor.com/view/stab-future-gif-12598389

Similar to cleaver

[hexed igloo]

On fucking God I wish for the knives the mks were just sweeps / stabs

One for swings one for shanking

[full nebula]

I wish there was one that had a combo similar to the one on mk3

[exotic plaza]

ogryn knife moment

[hexed igloo]

I like the knife but I'd like it much more if I could toothpick thrust on heads

[exotic plaza]

mk3 is genuinely ass

[full nebula]

But all horizontal pokes

[exotic plaza]

that just mk6

bruh

[full nebula]

In what?

[exotic plaza]

normal knife

[full nebula]

Havoc probably falls off, auric its fine

[hexed igloo]

That's the one with straight strike down heavies right

[full nebula]

Yeah

[hexed igloo]

Yeah I like that one but would be way better with pokie lights

[full nebula]

It has a poke on the heavy /light

[drowsy steppe]

mk3 succks

[hexed igloo]

My oneshotting crushers begs to differ

[drowsy steppe]

yea every other zealot weapon does that

you aint special lil bro 😤

[hexed igloo]

I am special I'm the specialest

Just bc your mom didn't love you

[exotic plaza]

one chromosome less

[hexed igloo]

My grandma says I'm the most handsome young man she's ever seen

[full nebula]

I guess but it doesn't need to excell nesscarily. Nothing wrong with being viable and not overly tuned lol

Some weapons definitely need buff still though

The health pool changes made a big difference

[hexed igloo]

Yeah like the dueling sword

[mystic ether]

All knife is good knife.

Knife 🔪

🗡️

[full nebula]

Please buff plasma gun, duelling sword, knife, relic sword, and FGS

And we're good

[hexed igloo]

They should add cosmetic that makes it a spoon

I'd buy that

[mystic ether]

Or just make a really well made shiv cosmetic skin

[full nebula]

Also nerf ogryn

[mystic ether]

Ez.

:^)

Shiv skin. 40 dollars.

C:

[hexed igloo]

Golden spoon

[glossy nimbus]

r u being fr

[hexed igloo]

A spork

[hexed igloo]

Don't forget spearhead

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[drowsy steppe]

ok but how about we run auric maelstrom later tho

[hexed igloo]

It's a bolter realistically you should be able to onemag everything in the game

[glossy nimbus]

^

[hexed igloo]

Uhhhhhhh what's ur timezone

[drowsy steppe]

gmt +8

[hexed igloo]

I can do 7am-9am utc most days, and call it at 9pm-9am utc on sunday/monday

[full nebula]

I hope admech has polearms

We need polearms of some sort

[hexed igloo]

She pole on my arm til I sort

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus

[long oasis]

I dont get it

[hard nexus]

awwooooo

[trail walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/whoiswe-heavenlyfather-cacodemon-gif-4733705780125197846

^This is a normal day of people making me play other games

[drowsy steppe]

gotcha

[young laurel]

wrong channel

oopsie daisy

[hexed igloo]

I work a lot

As someone who's been unemployed and employed I recommend not being born

[gaunt roost]

oh shit new class alreadY?

[placid fiber]

j*b

[violet dagger]

ikr I feel like arbites just released

[plush estuary]

it was going to happen

they brought in alot of money and players from arby

so why not again

[violet dagger]

anything for content in darktide 😭

[placid fiber]

Fatshark likes money?! No way!

[north sedge]

I mean would have definitely been in the works already (said as much in an interview talking about ideas for characters)

[north sedge]

Plus vt2 already did it so they have good idea of how it goes

[proud crescent]

Hi, is chorus Zealot still a nice option for havoc or after CD nerfs is not used as often?

[plush estuary]

yes

gold toughness spam is still easily exploitable

[proud crescent]

Nice

Ty

[hearty nebula]

post more of these thanks

[hexed igloo]

r/THEPACK

[hearty nebula]

have u tried packing stacks

smh

[hearty nebula]

noob

[proud crescent]

Cz fiber shenanigans

[full nebula]

This one is intentionally badly cropped

[plush estuary]

I'd like to see

[violet dagger]

bubble

[plush estuary]

I wish visual clutter was addressed

[violet dagger]

you dont like seeing fart clouds and fire and pus?

[full nebula]

@hearty nebula

[gaunt roost]

i lost on auric and the game auto turned me down to damnation ok

[visual comet]

Destroy the rations, remember the Mobian 21st!

[ornate bone]

Yeah, when you see the ration packs they are have a weird ass aura to them. I haven’t touched them

Just destroy if I remember to do it

[hearty nebula]

nope

pick them up

yummy

[ornate bone]

I don’t blame ogryns for such things. They can handle it.

[sullen forge]

@hearty nebula You fw the fit

[drowsy steppe]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ivEa1CKjeXY?si=UQohj33KggIo481s @sterile stone when bro pulls out the fan

[upper parrot]

Pick it up. This is the way

[carmine lance]

I'm ngl, I just had a really sus match

had someone who was keeping up with me as knife zealot

running normally

then suddenly they were physically zipping all over the fucking place like they were flying around

then suddenly it seemed like they were playing normally

[violet dagger]

thats herobrine dude

[carmine lance]

I reported them for hacking, because that just, really didn't feel right

[carmine lance]

[full nebula]

Over 9000 ping

[carmine lance]

even if they weren't hacking, they were at least an asshole

they barreled me multiple times just to stay ahead

there was no fuse time it just went off

[hearty nebula]

why ask me

[upper parrot]

Hard enough hits can but sounds intentional

[carmine lance]

yeah the whole thing was very strange

[sullen forge]

Cause I can

[hearty nebula]

idk its ok the helmet doesnt match at all tho

bad silhouette

[carmine lance]

hear me out, but what if the new class is from the officio assassinorum?

would be cool if we got a vindicare or eversor

[lunar fable]

eversor

https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-kamikaze-explosion-gif-15875063139611313358

[copper hawk]

Any qt 3.14s willin 2 drag me into an auric mael

[visual comet]

This is how plague ogryns are made. Do not think for one second that toughness makes one immune to the corruption of the warp. Chaos is insidious.

[acoustic dune]

I have rizzen from me slumber

[signal spoke]

[exotic plaza]

L

[delicate shadow]

almost like treating a video game marketplace like a fucking securities fund is a terrible idea. The fact that this is happening is tragic though

[misty nova]

They brought back the Great Depression

😭

[acoustic dune]

Cryptocurrency

[delicate shadow]

yeah I mean crypto too, anything that's highly unregulated and lacking in oversight

[acoustic dune]

I think it's time to pull a US

And start a cheese stockpile

[delicate shadow]

or simply doesn't have to abide by the same rules, like a video game market where the developer can just change stuff on a whim

[gray ice]

my honest to god reaction to hearing csgo market losing 1bil

https://tenor.com/view/get-rotated-get-rotated-idiot-rotate-rotation-shark-gif-24511062

[delicate shadow]

like I get some of those skins were crazy valuable but none of that shit was intrinsic value or inherently stable value

[acoustic dune]

For how long it did goes

[hexed igloo]

Pack deez nuts in ur mouth bozo

[acoustic dune]

It's not to hard believe that it would

But then again

I don't play csgo

And not greedy

[delicate shadow]

I mean I get why some people were using it to make money because there's defo money to be made there but if you're going in and expecting to never lose that money then you've set yourself up for a real bad time

[acoustic dune]

Anyhow morning rhum

And then shower

[signal spoke]

Damn imagine if Darktide had steam community marketplace

[acoustic dune]

What was the change anyway

[signal spoke]

Krieg slop for over 40$

At least

[acoustic dune]

What did valve do to crash the market

[gray ice]

Listen when choosing investments if you got to csgo skins, you skipped past the actual stock market, and sailed past cryptocurrency which is already the deregulated stock market.

[acoustic dune]

God rolling for skin

[signal spoke]

Made so you can get knives and gloves from trade ups

[gray ice]

You had 2 solid options and kept digging to the 3rd and somehow even worse one

[signal spoke]

5 red weapon skins

[acoustic dune]

Imagine that for shat8de

[signal spoke]

You get a knife

For trade up

[acoustic dune]

Trade up?

[delicate shadow]

you used to not be able to trade up to the most expensive stuff, now you can

[gray ice]

trade shitty skin dupes for good skins

[signal spoke]

Trade up is like converting items of a certain quality grade to a higher quality one

[delicate shadow]

you could take 10 of X rarity and upgrade it to the next rarity. This did not apply to the most expensive/rarest tier

[acoustic dune]

Oh

[signal spoke]

Like 10 purple quality skin cosmetics to 1 red

As trade up

[delicate shadow]

now you can, so it crashed the market because suddenly you can get the rare shit way more reasonably

[signal spoke]

Trade up is seen like a gamble in CS2 and TF2 communities as way to profit

[acoustic dune]

THATS LITERAL A NOTHING BURGER GOOD ADDITION?

[delicate shadow]

HOWEVER, the change did increase prices for red rarity items since they can now be upgraded to gold

[acoustic dune]

AND PEOPLE ARE DYING OVER IT?

[signal spoke]

Yes

[acoustic dune]

Bloody aye

[signal spoke]

Imagine if that shit happens with TF2

You get an unusual cosmetic for trade up lmao

[delicate shadow]

people had their life savings and and otherwise insane amounts of money in that market, for god knows what reason (greed/gambling)

[signal spoke]

Not like unusuals matter anway

[acoustic dune]

You think valve did a insider and just

Sold all three red knife

And then implement the change

[gray ice]

maybe you dont pay taxes on csgo skin trades

[signal spoke]

Though I think the knives earned from trade up are now locked and untradable and unmarketable

Or they still are? Don't know

[hexed igloo]

Probably, I would

[acoustic dune]

Any stock would have done t it with passive income aswell

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/rich-gif-24345713

That one valve employee whom play bsgo

[delicate shadow]

yea though the stock market does at least (in theory) have regulations and oversight

[signal spoke]

Let's be honest, CS2 players don't play the game

And only gamble and trade

[acoustic dune]

Look man

[hexed igloo]

Hey just like darktide

[acoustic dune]

I like my cool skin

I would play mordhau to flex my drip

[hexed igloo]

I like your skin too

[signal spoke]

See how much is worth now in the market

To see if it crashed out and commit die

[acoustic dune]

I don't need gucci shit

[signal spoke]

[acoustic dune]

Nor supreme

Designer is the way

I believe in my shitty taste in costume

In the future I wanna have a custom made best with silver pink and black

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-shannon-sharpe-suit-meme-gif-10384273591962401640

[hexed igloo]

Prada better

I fw the Balenciaga sock sneakers too ngl

[acoustic dune]

Hugo boss

[hexed igloo]

Alright hitler

[acoustic dune]

Aye

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-yo-gif-26891796

I WILL look good while I commit several war crime

[hexed igloo]

Ol man Hugo cooked with those uniforms though, abhorrent people but fuck the drip man

[acoustic dune]

Sometime evil people have great taste

😔

[hexed igloo]

Heartbreaking - the worst person you know made a great point

[acoustic dune]

Anyhow I need a new trench coat

[hexed igloo]

I hate living because I'm poor but I have extremely expensive tastes in almost everytbing

[acoustic dune]

Mine is ripped to hell

[hexed igloo]

Every time I look at smth and go "that's sick as fuck" it costs like $900

[acoustic dune]

America

[hexed igloo]

Living

[acoustic dune]

900 could let you get a custom made fit

If I could spent 1k on a singular outfit

I would by that point

Support my local tailor

[hexed igloo]

I have extremely specific tastes

If I ever find anything that suits these tastes, it's exorbitantly priced

I.e the only shoes I've found that I actually really like are $200 a pop

And you can't fucking buy them here anymore

[visual stream]

Guys tech priest will finally be real november 11th

adept*

They were supposed to do that first but it was too difficult so they opted for the stinky cop class first

in my infinite wisdom I do predict this

[acoustic dune]

I don't really have taste in much

So can't relate

[hexed igloo]

I can only explain it as I like "light boots"

Search palladium baggy and that's them like guh

Shoe genre that barely exists

[acoustic dune]

Are those TIMS

[hexed igloo]

Whut

[acoustic dune]

TIMS

The boot

[hexed igloo]

Timbs?

Like timberlands?

[acoustic dune]

Prob

[hexed igloo]

Kinda I guess

They aren't padded with anything

Just canvas basically, vans turned into boots

[signal spoke]

Bro really just a furry noodle

[carmine lance]

Just had an intense 2 man of clandestine gloriana on maelstrom

Only went down once, feels so fucking good

[acoustic dune]

I almost finish a bottle of rhum in a week

Chat

Am I an alchoholic

[grizzled laurel]

yes

[pallid hemlock]

Have you looked at chukkas in general, or Jim Green's African Rangers?

Idk if Lems would be your thing

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

You are on the mpreg list

[ornate bone]

Bing Chilling for Austrian people

[frosty herald]

@heady rapids dont forget to do daily bounties for the talisman ticket

[hexed igloo]

What actually is finesse

I wish they explained it

[signal spoke]

Increases damage bonus to Critical Hits and Weak Spot Hits

If got it right

[acoustic dune]

also speed

crit inscrease speed

if you dont dump finesse

stat

[heady rapids]

rapid fire melta is DEAD

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-low-tier-god-ltg-gif-4022085103641635431

@sterile stone

[elfin cedar]

Finesse is the individual modifier a weapon and its attacks have for weakspot hits and crits

[elfin cedar]

Sometimes you will hear people talk about "finesse weapons" which just means weapons with extraordinary finesse, like Heavy Laspistol, Duelling Sword and Combat Blade

Every weapon has finesse, but some have way more than others

And some weapons have very different finesse values for specific attacks, such as the Indignatus Crusher's Push Attack, which has higher finesse than anything else on the weapon

[placid fiber]

and some weapons have low finesse(thammer)

[elfin cedar]

Yeah blunt weapons tend to have low finesse

[heady rapids]

@carmine falcon @frosty herald @acoustic dune nature is healing the new heroics are fencing

thank god

[frosty herald]

bleh

[elfin cedar]

There's new heroics?

[heady rapids]

yes, pts is live

[modern lintel]

which all variants got added

[heady rapids]

everything that got leaked

[frosty herald]

they cooked so absurdly hard with the shoulder

[modern lintel]

no power fist

also why the fuck is the heavy bolter green

[heady rapids]

6

[modern lintel]

green for an unamazing

also no las fusil

sad

[heady rapids]

rip

[placid fiber]

"decreased by STRING3"

[heady rapids]

still these look nice

I hope they don't change the thammer from fencing

[hexed igloo]

So more finesse = more weakpoint dmg?

[elfin cedar]

Yes, and crit damage

[acoustic dune]

gulp

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

pleak

[heady rapids]

ah man they added the shitty bionic eye version instead of the normal laurel beakie

waiting for an event I guess

but still sucks

[acoustic dune]

they added today

?

[heady rapids]

yes

it's all out

[acoustic dune]

New update? What did they add?

[heady rapids]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841879601667637248/1391084208780476587/zt.gif

[acoustic dune]

Look lad I am in class

[heady rapids]

Why aren't you studying

https://vt.vxtiktok.com/ZSUc9nSm2/

Ohhhhhh fuuucckkkkk

[modern lintel]

you think mort ever thinks to himself man this shit sucks

[calm charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ultravd-gif-24866019

[modern lintel]

mayhaps wrong mort

[drowsy steppe]

mortarion?

[modern lintel]

perhaps

[drowsy steppe]

or another mort that I knew before

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/ultravd-gif-24866019

[acoustic dune]

Chat

From him in the volcano

[heady rapids]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/8y71yctFSS

tf is darktide doing over here

[dull iris]

it was in the same boat at release

[calm charm]

I mean

[dull iris]

otherwise, yeah it's fine now

sure took its sweet time

[calm charm]

I'd understand kf3 and payday

But isnt warframe like

10 years old or something

[dull iris]

no idea

as in yeah it's that old, but i dunno about its situation now

apparently it was also in a bad situation

[calm charm]

[deft badge]

I kinda stopped enjoying WF at Plains of Eidolon

[fiery coyote]

oh god plains

ughh

[acoustic dune]

@modern lintel tonight

https://tenor.com/view/birdman-hand-rub-thinking-dance-gif-17449632

[hushed bolt]

I mean the game in 2013 was p different from what it is now, but it didn't take that long for it to be close to what it is now in terms of core gameplay

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-kiwi-bird-bird-running-away-funny-gif-3583877191952351361

[frosty herald]

this looks so absurdly cool

[drowsy steppe]

this was darktide from release to

arbites release

[drowsy steppe]

they was playing catch up with the supposed game state on launch

2 1/2 years of fix

[acoustic dune]

god that shield

https://tenor.com/view/elijahpetty-gif-8625054008385880035

[drowsy steppe]

oh you like them shields arent you

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/shikimoris-not-just-cute-shikimori-kawaii-dake-ja-nai-shikimorisan-embarrassed-scared-gif-25899418

NUH UH

[frosty herald]

they cooked so hard

[deft badge]

Good taste

[acoustic dune]

are there new heroic weapon?

[frosty herald]

uhh yeah

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-1182720488497099882

[frosty herald]

.

[acoustic dune]

what are the weapon

retribution request literal nothing burger

[glad ermine]

It's just more questionable stuff at best heroic weapons wise

Heroic melees should have all 3 defence types

[heady rapids]

I agree but them being fencing is a step in the right direction

https://fxtwitter.com/Rimmy_Downunder/status/1981593777765835163?t=uuXsxCXdiqfIzsv3jkKUjg&s=19

Rimmy (@Rimmy_Downunder)

soldiers: haha, look there's the "cops", light them up lol
︀︀
︀︀that one bavarian police officer:

Quoting Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love)
︀
German police mistakenly shoot soldier on training exercise
︀︀
︀︀In Bavaria, the Bundeswehr is carrying out a training exercise called Marshal Power, involving some 500 military police as well as hundreds of first responders from police, fire and rescue services.
︀︀
︀︀What makes these drills unique is that they’re not taking place on a closed military training ground but in public spaces in a dozen Bavarian towns and cities — to better simulate possible real-world scenarios.
︀︀
︀︀However, some local residents weren’t aware, they called the police. As police arrived, they came under fire with blank ammunition from the Bundeswehr soldiers, who mistook them for part of the exercise. The police, also unaware that a military drill was in progress, fired back.
︀︀
︀︀One soldie…

FxTwitter · Oct 24, 2025, 5:29 AM

[spare crescent]

Example of what poor communication can lead to

[carmine falcon]

Block when

[acoustic dune]

@frosty herald hows the test server

[drowsy steppe]

Imperator Xi

[heady rapids]

do you think you're ever getting block after they forgot to make power axe work xdddd

[carmine falcon]

Saber pls

[acoustic dune]

oh i thought saber add it to base game

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyquote-gif-17287897282409113653

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/dam-damn-gif-27530020

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-spongebob-epic-spongebob-speedrun-any-percent-geile-klöten-when-imposter-is-delicious-gif-19750086

[royal sierra]

How do you view the situation where the current version of the fanatic cannot join a team in the apocalypse mode, as it is now almost exclusively played with a double veteran lineup

[royal sandal]

我觉得不是太大问题

there's still some situation where i would take a zealot (fanatic)

[carmine falcon]

what

[royal sandal]

but zealot (fanatic) has definitely fallen out of meta for havoc (apocalypse) mode

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/bingchilling-gif-10067072887923246131

[carmine falcon]

the fanatic can join the mode who said he cant

[acoustic dune]

in fact

the fanatic

can and will carry pocaalypse

[royal sandal]

i also think fanatic is way more fun than veteran or psyker

[royal sierra]

I play as a Zealot, and almost every Calamity team rejects me

[royal sandal]

as in "i have to work for my damage"

[carmine falcon]

because they're bad at the game brother

keep trying and you will get in!

[royal sandal]

meanwhile fuckass veteran with 10 hours here can press G three times and the chaos spawn is dead

[heady rapids]

is zealot secretly the new ogryn in havoc

[carmine falcon]

yeah

unironically

[drowsy steppe]

tbf zealot is kinda overshadowed in havoc rn..

[royal sandal]

yeah

[carmine falcon]

sweatlords only let zealots in cause of book

[royal sandal]

继续尝试，迟早能进去, 但我确实觉得国服那边更偏向于用meta的阵容，所以你玩狂信者才更容易被拒

[carmine falcon]

there's no more book spam soooo

[drowsy steppe]

zealots relegated to book unfortunately

[carmine falcon]

once again havoc is a mistake

[heady rapids]

old havoc players would kill for a book beacon zealot.......

[drowsy steppe]

like yea zealot can clear havoc but a random pug first needs to wanna play with a zealot that dont play book

[carmine falcon]

its also a case of current havoc line up favoring things that can just melt armor packs fast

krakadilo bombardini

[drowsy steppe]

and zealot dont have much in the way of rending or insta crusher removal

[royal sandal]

artillery simulator

[drowsy steppe]

man fuck the crusher HP buff

[heady rapids]

nerf everyone and bring back the vermintide 2 balancing

[carmine falcon]

lets put it this way, a class that can cheat death every 2 minutes and blender everything in melee is not in le meta setups

[royal sandal]

true!

[carmine falcon]

game's cooked

[drowsy steppe]

the pug havoc zealot is

book + flamer

[royal sandal]

i would KILL for the game to have vermintide 2 balancing again

[drowsy steppe]

I say pug specifically

[royal sandal]

you can still have auric and havoc with that balancing

[heady rapids]

yeah they need to stop giving everything rending and actually balance things

[jagged cradle]

you do know it was very much needed right ? the only reason it’s a problem is rotten armor

[carmine falcon]

yeah rotten armor has unusual spawns

[drowsy steppe]

or 1 shot bosses kek

[royal sandal]

fatshark just fucked themselves into a corner with damage balancing in the first place

[carmine falcon]

unironically neuter tf out of everyone else's melee or give us ranged builds too

[deft badge]

Crusher HP buff into the oops all crushers mode is one of the most fatshark decisions of all time tbh

[drowsy steppe]

when the melee centric class is outdamaged by the psyker 😭

in melee 😭

[deft badge]

Like ik the buff was needed but holy god does it suck when every enemy is a fucking crusher

[deft badge]

Cause like everyone is except PS vet iirc

[carmine falcon]

its not like zealot is lacking power, the rest are just 🥴

[north solar]

HOLD UP! Is zealot the only class that doesn't have a way to regen toughness for just hitting an enemy?

[heady rapids]

we have extremely broken players rn and the only way to counteract that is dropping your frames

[drowsy steppe]

they have ewew

[drowsy steppe]

and then vet with insta crusher removal (it also regens)

[deft badge]

Doesnt thammer pop crushers?

[royal sandal]

yeah but i have a grenade that pops 5 crushers

that also regens every 60s

[drowsy steppe]

havent played much thammer Im fallen out of love

[royal sandal]

why would i bring a thammer

[north solar]

Not really anymore

[drowsy steppe]

like yea

you have to do so much setup to one shot crushers now

[deft badge]

As opposed to

Heho

Tosses krak

Gets krak back

Infinite nades forever really is stupid lmfao

[royal sandal]

i actually hate havoc so much but i cant stop playing it because there's nothing like it

[north solar]

what the fuck is ewew short for

[royal sandal]

and also i have to wait until 10pm to get my friends for modded vt2

[drowsy steppe]

enemies within enemies without

[deft badge]

I have the issue where havocs are havocs but auric maelstroms have become too easy

[royal sandal]

yes exactly

[north solar]

that's not on hit

[drowsy steppe]

its right next to duelist (also the best toughness regen node)

[royal sandal]

im so used to immense amounts of shit on screen auric bores me to death

sometimes even havoc aswell

but at the same time havoc itself is so dogshit

[north solar]

every other class now, except maby vet has a way to get toughness back on hit

[drowsy steppe]

yea I shouldve clarified my answer better

my mistake lel

[north solar]

also ewew isn't that great of a passive regen node

[royal sandal]

gamemode dragged along mud and smothered in pig feces

[north solar]

compared to how much toughness over time you can generate on every other class

[carmine falcon]

auric is still as bipolar as ever
u get a 3 stack of people "Warming up"? might as well fall asleep
u get 3 little timmys? you will have fun

[deft badge]

I agree

And there's legit no inbetween

But then you play havoc and depip to FS servers and its the most infuriating shit in the world

[royal sandal]

everyday i pray to fatshark to not dc me mid-havoc

[deft badge]

You're lucky if you only get DC'd once ime

[north solar]

unfortunately the other option is wait 45 min to play one havoc match before the party disbands and you go back to playing matchmaker.

[carmine falcon]

its ok u dc in auric too

[drowsy steppe]

everyday I pray havoc is not empty

(for my playtime its empty)

[heady rapids]

i pray to fs to not dn me

[deft badge]

You don't get kicked in the nuts for DCing in aurics tho

[heady rapids]

i beg even

[deft badge]

Ive deranked in havoc because I've been hard dc'd 3 games in a row before

[north solar]

havoc should have just been added as the next difficulty after auric

[deft badge]

Whew boy I love the derank system that only matters till you're 40

[heady rapids]

when havoc launched it used to abort your mission if you climbed a ladder and activated your relic blade at the same time

[deft badge]

I believe that

[drowsy steppe]

my internets shitting the bed rn

aah I remember emperors fading light (bs modifier)

[north solar]

i love how they basically brought back og havoc with stim gunners

[royal sandal]

my highest record was 15

in one game

it was h40

[deft badge]

Normally by the time I DC 4 times I'm not allowed back in

Idk

I want to like havoc but goddamn did FS make it hard to like lmfao

I think id be much more okay if there was a DC protection on your pips somehow

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-x-jump-rub-belly-rubbing-x-gif-12120418203943649769

[north solar]

fatshark has a contractual obligation to the devil to repeat the mistakes they made in vt2

[deft badge]

And VT1

[royal sandal]

no worries guys give darktide 3 more years

[north solar]

these mf DO NOT LEARN

[deft badge]

I mean thats unironically what it is

[acoustic dune]

darktide 3?????

[royal sandal]

fatshark is also the ONLY game devs i know that actively take balancing ideas from the fucking competitive scene

[north solar]

i will literally die before fatshark learns from their mistakes

[royal sandal]

not that im complaining because veteran players know better about balancing than fatshark themselves

[drowsy steppe]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2S4jI8_BIMo ai getting real scary man

[carmine falcon]

that's just every game tho

[north solar]

still wishing fatshark would decide wether they want status effects to be a direct damage source or a condition to activate abilites

[deft badge]

Talking about bleed?

[heady rapids]

https://fxtwitter.com/watchingspirals/status/1981538745531977814

Wæs 🍂 (@watchingspirals)

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FxTwitter · Oct 24, 2025, 1:50 AM

[tropic egret]

scarily funny

[north solar]

because it's kinda both rn, which causes weird shit like bleed uncany

[north solar]

basically

[deft badge]

I think the only other real DoT is what, warpfire?

[frosty herald]

i want to congratulate saber on killing weekly stratagems

[north solar]

warpfire and fire

does shock actually do damage?

[deft badge]

Forgot straight up fire exists ngl

[deft badge]

Actually I think it does

[tame sluice]

mortis trials shock does

the shock that shock maul applies?

no

[north solar]

see

[vast basin]

The shock maul specials actually do some damage (the arbites ones anyway)

[north solar]

it's weird shit like that that makes my brain fall apart when thinking about this game

they need to decide what the statuses are doing

if bleed is a status that's a primer for skills it'd be one thing, if it's something that you can build to get through tough armor that's another, but when it's both they can't do anything with it w/o making it busted as fuck

[deft badge]

Thinking too hard about the code in a tide game gives me the same kind of headache I imagine Lovecraft characters getting when they witness those unimaginable horrors

[north solar]

fr

[deft badge]

I am almost entirely sure the coders feel the same way

[north solar]

Fatshark hiring a new team lead because the last one died to perils irl

[deft badge]

Red Rains have consumed the Fatshark Facility

Thats actually why we have no new arb cosmetics

[north solar]

have they said anything at this point about whether uncanny bleed is even intended?

[deft badge]

They speak to us?

[north solar]

only through the stars

actually they've done decent recently

[misty nova]

Broken but everyone thinks he isn't?

Yeah

[north solar]

he's not

[deft badge]

I think theres a wild amount of animosity between classes rn tbh

[royal sandal]

maybe someone should do a pacing/horde breakdown guide next

[north solar]

you loose too much utility for the melee value you gain

[royal sandal]

would you rather 500 vets or 500 zealots

[deft badge]

I think the average zealot is better than the average vet

[north solar]

really? i've seen a lot of people like me that are frustrated with where zealots lack of identity rn but never seen people angry about another class.

[deft badge]

So id probably take 500 zealots

[deft badge]

Hang out in vet chat more

[misty nova]

Zealots

[deft badge]

Theyre still not happy

[north solar]

vet has allways hated zealot

[royal sandal]

lore accurate behavior

[misty nova]

Zealots are self sufficient so zealots

Aka we'll split and never see each other again

[north solar]

every class is self sufficent

[misty nova]

500 zealots? Where?

[misty nova]

Yesnt

[north solar]

tf you mean?

[misty nova]

Vet still plays on that guardsmen together strong

[north solar]

you mean lorewise?

[sterile basalt]

It works as intended
Whether that’s intentional is unknown

[deft badge]

I think animosity has always been the strongest between vet and zealot

[sterile basalt]

They did invent a new melee_rending tag

So maybe they’ll eventually get around to using it for uncanny

[misty nova]

Like that's ever going to happen

[north solar]

maby in another 2 years

[misty nova]

Shrimple

Just make rending melee only

[north solar]

have you guys seen this? https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/zealot-still-has-major-structural-weaknesses-in-high-difficulty-auric-havoc/113844

[misty nova]

No I haven't

Because it's forums

Forums is usually shit takes

[north solar]

probably the most well constructed post on the forums in years

[sterile basalt]

The only justified hate towards a specific class is to psyker

[misty nova]

[sterile basalt]

Purely because psyker is wildly above the other 4 classes

[acoustic dune]

https://fixvx.com/Helldivers_NOW/status/1981304852312707508?t=Al-aKckHhGHrjWTt0Rkd6g&s=19

Helldivers NOW (@Helldivers_NOW)

#Helldivers2 | #Helldivers

A step in the right direction

Game size has decreased to 134 GB from 145 GB https://t.co/k7EQ7bgdRu

vxTwitter / fixvx · Oct 23, 2025, 10:21 AM

Chat

Helldiver 2 is so back

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[deft badge]

I genuinely think the reason more people dont hate psyker is cause your average psyker is actually worse than your average anything else including Recon Vets and CS Arbs

[drowsy steppe]

i generally agree with what op is arguing for

[acoustic dune]

Smite

[misty nova]

[acoustic dune]

We hate smite

[misty nova]

Really

A small gb reduction

[deft badge]

Everyone does

[misty nova]

It's over

[north solar]

perfectly describes my gripes with new zealot tree

[misty nova]

Bloatdivers 2 will never recover

[acoustic dune]

Yeah look at that 10gb optimisation

[deft badge]

Literally no one in this discord likes having a smyker around

[acoustic dune]

Game is playable now

[deft badge]

That we can all agree on

[acoustic dune]

Frff

Soyker

[misty nova]

Wonder if it's 20gb on console

[royal sandal]

ohmy slop

[north solar]

we also hate infinite cleave weapons with zero restrictions on when and where you use them

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[deft badge]

Im ngl I'm something of a smite apologist

[sterile basalt]

Agree with it partially
Though I think most of zealot’s problems are more weapon-related than talent-related

[deft badge]

I do think its pretty fucking good if you, yk, actually use it when you need it and not as a primary attack ability

[misty nova]

I fully am one

Oh yeah read a bit of the post

[acoustic dune]

Why you talking shit about MY beloved greatsword

[sterile basalt]

It’s not a reason good enough to justify psyker’s power ceiling

[misty nova]

It's Korean meta

As someone with different meta

[deft badge]

I agree with you. I don't think we should balance classes strictly around player skill.

[misty nova]

I will not give my 2 cents

🫡

[acoustic dune]

The real meta is chorus

[deft badge]

I'm at least interested in why its meta

[acoustic dune]

Chorus with cdr

[drowsy steppe]

the different meta being

we dont use duelist

[misty nova]

Oh oh no

[acoustic dune]

A full team of only zealot

[north solar]

i would kinda agree, a lot of his weapons were designed for the different "eras" of darktide which can make them either conceptually weak or conceptually overtuned which means his tree can't relly be put into a good spot without pushing certain things out of line.

[acoustic dune]

With chorusbcdr

[misty nova]

Bro thinks zealot has shortcomings on Auric

I will not say anything
I will not say anything
I will not say anything

[deft badge]

Do you remember OG Force Sword with literal infinite dodges?

[acoustic dune]

Yeah it's called not player marty thumper shroudfield

[misty nova]

[north solar]

you talking about force greatsword? because relic blade is honestly kinda meh after crusher changes. Also, i'm talking about his staves.

[misty nova]

Oh no

Oh no

I will stop reading

There is no way

They called eviscerator less efficient

There is no fucking way

[sterile basalt]

Eviscerator can use some help

[north solar]

it objectively is?

[sterile basalt]

Sticky stagger type is so weird

[acoustic dune]

Force greatsword yeah

[misty nova]

Not on this

[sterile basalt]

I have no idea why sticky stagger has to be just so bad

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-meme-glock-glock17-gif-25677613

[misty nova]

He talks about the prevalence of flak and carapace

Eviscerator eats that

No problem

[north solar]

not really

[misty nova]

Yes really

[sterile basalt]

Nah Evis is better vs flak than avg

But

Stagger is ass

[acoustic dune]

Servitor

[north solar]

the bigger issue is carapace

[acoustic dune]

The new class could be servitors

[misty nova]

Evis15 is one of the few weapons that can hit for 9k carapace

[acoustic dune]

Talking moving servitor

[misty nova]

Evis15 does not struggle with carapace

[north solar]

after 3 seconds of sticking to an enemy

[misty nova]

It is able to 1 Rev it

[north solar]

okay, but the ttk on that is dogshit

[sterile basalt]

It isn’t
Just the fact that it’s a lengthy animation lock feels bad

[deft badge]

It is my understanding that Evis has like, never been the premier choice for zealot

[north solar]

we never see one crusher, using the lock on is both slow and dangerous

[misty nova]

I refuse to believe that you think eviscerator struggles against carapace

Or anything else really

[north solar]

brother

[drowsy steppe]

I use the inferior mark of the evis because Im cool like that

[misty nova]

Nope, refusing to believe

[carmine falcon]

evis doesnt struggle its literally just a learning curve

[north solar]

it's not that it struggles against carapace individually

[carmine falcon]

u get locked out against packs true and guess what

[north solar]

it's as a whole, it's too conditional to feel good

[carmine falcon]

make more weapons need some ksill to use

[deft badge]

Fuck it, delete the melee system and replace it with Mordhaus

[north solar]

i would agree, if every other class had to work for it, but the direction that they're going is not going to work like that currently

why is zealot, "THE MELEE CLASS" the one that has to deal with these weird obtuse mechanics

for borderline more melee damage

at the cost of most of their utility

[sterile basalt]

I do think zealot is awkward in terms of role

But it is more of a weapon problem than a talent problem

And zealot is not best melee damage either

[rain sparrow]

Meanwhile, scriers psykers deleting the map

[sterile basalt]

That’s psyker (duh)

[misty nova]

There goes brittle again

Damn

[north solar]

why would i rev my evicerator and wait 3 seconds, locked to an enemy, if i could just light attack a crusher 4 times with a arbies maul

[misty nova]

People really overrate it huh

[sterile basalt]

Only psyker and ogryn most of the time

[misty nova]

The crusher still alive lol

[north solar]

the crusher is dead

and you have full toughness

[misty nova]

Unlikely

[carmine falcon]

is it a weapon problem when zealot can use loads of weapons decently

its every other class being able to reach similar dmg lol

while having ranged builds and stuff

[misty nova]

3600 HP crusher took 3 hits

6k is going to take more than 4

Which once again

[carmine falcon]

u could argue that dmg isnt everything and zealot is more mobile and can survive better bla bla bla but ogryn and arbeetus exist as tanky frontliners

[misty nova]

Arby's won't beat the not one shotting crushers allegations

[sterile basalt]

It is a weapon problem because zealot melee is designed with the assumption of u having a damage ult and getting somewhere like 30~40% atk speed bonus consistently

[carmine falcon]

good no class should 1 shot crushers

[carmine falcon]

what would fix this

buff all weapons baseline?

[misty nova]

all 4 base classes are able to

[sterile basalt]

At least 2 of zealot’s exclusive melee weapons (Evis and TH) can use major buffs

[carmine falcon]

and that's bad

[misty nova]

But somehow

The paid class

[north solar]

lets be honest, as a flavor, thammer with thrust and buffs should easily clear, but should have an ammo component or somehting.

[misty nova]

Can't

What a waste of money

I should've bought a burger

[deft badge]

Fuck it, 2x their health and double the time of rot armor as a modifier in havoc

[carmine falcon]

yeah fair enough
leave the 1 shots to stuff like hammer

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-gif-5519885072022975401

[misty nova]

Whopper whopper

[real sonnet]

It's also a talent problem

Zealot's only talent that considerably increases damage is Duellist with +50% Finesse

... And veteran gets Desperado with 10% crit, 25% Finesse and permanent uptime because it's passive

[carmine falcon]

new modifier rot armor crushers will apply scarlet rot on you

[deft badge]

Hell yeah

Poison swamp map when

[sterile basalt]

Nah I think the damage talents are mostly fine for zealot

[deft badge]

(I unironically like Caelid)

[real sonnet]

I do think Zealot is fine

It's just the others that are overtuned rn

[carmine falcon]

calied is goated

[north solar]

this kinda shit is SUPER frustrating. It does direct mental damage to me.

[real sonnet]

It's amazing how Zealot is the weakest havoc class

And requires to use DS, Book and +70% weakspot acc to be as relevant as the others

[carmine falcon]

havoc is a mistake

[real sonnet]

xddddd

[carmine falcon]

modes that force meta are a mistake

[misty nova]

book

[deft badge]

I would like a quickplay option for havoc ngl

[sterile basalt]

Zealot has a role identity problem that’s more weapon-related than talent-related

[north solar]

it's basically "we couldn't think up any actually interesting utility nodes, so we cut up all your damage nodes and scattered them across the tree!"

[carmine falcon]

and before u say well akswally u can clear it with grey weapons nuh uh that's not how it works
people will always min max shit

[real sonnet]

I don't think meta is bad but I think when the effectiveness difference between meta and non meta is 100% then it's stupid

But if the meta was just slightly better than the rest I don't think anyone would gaf

[sterile basalt]

Role play as a krak grenade. Or chorus

That’s kinda the tldr

[misty nova]

Ain't no one running chorus

🗣️

[carmine falcon]

tbh im just memeing the issue isnt the mode itself rather the playerbase only playing to win and filtering 99% of things in the game in the proces cause winning >>>>> everything

[deft badge]

Is a majority of the playerbase actually hardstuck in malice and heresy?

[real sonnet]

I still do!!! In havoc only ofc

[deft badge]

I remember hearing that statistic thrown around a few times

[sterile basalt]

Yea

[carmine falcon]

also for some reason everyone ignores havoc 1 to 39 and just wanna do 40 even if their skill level isnt there

[deft badge]

Explains why you see the same 7 fuckin people in havoc all the time

[misty nova]

Heresy actually

[north solar]

ogryn throwing zealot into backline be like.

[ornate bone]

anyone in this wonderful zealot chat happen to play veteran and run infantry auto guns?

[deft badge]

But its defo around that middle mark

[real sonnet]

I know this is true but it feels so Alien to me

[deft badge]

Whats up?

[misty nova]

Heresy always been the hard stuck diff

[winter oxide]

tough to get a discussion on this here

[carmine falcon]

only way to explain people being hardstuck in hersey is if they play on and off and dont really min max

[misty nova]

True

[carmine falcon]

cause i outgrew it fast lol

[misty nova]

I took a glance

And insta reminded myself

[carmine falcon]

everything below auric feels like a training diff if you're invested

[misty nova]

As to why I ignore forums

[real sonnet]

But but... Why play charge when vet gets shout and even more damage boosts than Zealot :((

[misty nova]

Because charge tastes better than key

[winter oxide]

whats wrong with the post?

[real sonnet]

Truth nuke... But if I wanted fun I would go stealth >:)

[winter oxide]

i think he made some good points

[misty nova]

Well, it's not griefing anymore

[north solar]

honestly I wonder a lot about how many people we loose to the "Opening grind" of getting to 30 w decent gear before the game actually starts and things become more consistant.

[real sonnet]

It never was, it was just bad players hehe

[ornate bone]

wodnering if there's an up to date build for any of the IAGs. Ive looked around online and cant find any, and im fairly new to vet builds and talent tree, so not as knowledgable on making an optimal build

[sterile basalt]

I think zealot has the least valuable gimmick for havoc outside of going full support

[misty nova]

He brought up flak and carapace then proceeded to say that Eviscerator was less efficient, evis does not struggle with those

Then asked for brittle

When Zealot will just kill things

[deft badge]

Is Vraks still busted on vet rn?

[misty nova]

Faster than brittle can get value

[carmine falcon]

leveling up sucks balls so understandable

[real sonnet]

My zealot in Havoc is just book farm + boss shredder

[sterile basalt]

What’s vraks

[real sonnet]

(relentless strikes Best blessing ofc)

[carmine falcon]

vraks deez

[deft badge]

Vraks IAG, Crit Machine, the fast firing one.

[winter oxide]

it kills things fast because your team is applying the brittle

[misty nova]

Nope

Zealot will just kills things fast because he doesn't need brittle

[sterile basalt]

Zealot’s gimmick outside of chorus is just boss skip
But boss skip is less relevant than mixed horde clear since ritual isn’t in, and the other 4 classes either do more mixed horde dps or do it much safer

[north solar]

he's 12 and can't read something and have thoughts about what is and isn't worth incorperating into a personal opinion.

[sterile basalt]

It’s still best on psyker

[winter oxide]

i dont see how you are killing rotten armour hordes fast

[misty nova]

Eviscerator

9k hp carapace ain't shit to it

[deft badge]

Water is wet, tbf